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Rob (00:03):
Hi, I'm Rob and I'm Robin.
Thanks for listening toMarriage and.
Us.
Each week, we will talk aboutreal-life topics that couples
experience in everyday marriedlife.
So let's get to today's episode.
Hello everybody, hey guys,welcome back in.
(00:24):
Yes, hope everybody is doingwell, guys.
Welcome back in.
Robin (00:25):
Yes.
Rob (00:26):
Hope everybody is doing
well out there in podcast land.
Robin (00:31):
I wonder what people do
in podcast land.
I don't know, I don't know, Ijust I don't either.
Rob (00:35):
So they could be in their
car.
Yeah, they could be at the gym.
True, they could be sitting ontheir couch.
Who knows where you'relistening to this podcast,
gardening, gard.
Who knows where you'relistening to this podcast,
gardening, gardening.
But the whole point is, we'reglad you're listening.
Robin (00:46):
Yes, we are.
Rob (00:47):
And if this is your first
time.
Robin (00:49):
Yes.
Rob (00:50):
I'm Rob, I'm Robin, exactly
, and we've been married 34
years.
Robin (00:55):
Wow, incredible,
incredible.
We did it, we did.
Rob (00:59):
And we keep doing it.
Yes, exactly.
Robin (01:01):
And we love marriage.
Rob (01:02):
Yes exactly, and we love
marriage.
Robin (01:04):
Oh, absolutely.
Rob (01:04):
Love being married.
Yeah, love talking aboutmarriage.
Yes, love helping people withmarriage.
Robin (01:09):
Yes, we've been for the
last several years working with
couples, especially in the areaof pre-marital coaching, and
it's just so much fun.
I love being at the front endof a couple's journey and you
know talking and game planning.
Rob (01:28):
Hearing their dreams, yeah.
Robin (01:29):
Hearing their love story
how they met One of our favorite
things.
How?
Rob (01:33):
you know how he proposed or
she proposed you know, maybe
We've had a few of those yeah.
And the wedding day the wholething, first date, first kiss,
all those things.
Oh, it's just fun, we love allthose stories, yeah the wedding
day the whole thing, first date,first kiss, all those things we
love, all those stories, yeah,yes, absolutely.
Speaking of that, as we we do alot of premarital, like Robin
(01:54):
said, we also do marriagetune-ups, but one of the things
we do a premarital is we use anassessment called SEMPAS.
Robin (02:01):
Yes, save your marriage
before it starts, and it's by
Les and Leslie Parrott.
Rob (02:04):
Exactly, and one of those
things that you know it's like
hot topic buttons or hot topicdiscussions that come up.
Robin (02:12):
you know that when they
take the assessment, that shows
Things that maybe, yeah, maybe,they have a hard time agreeing
on or finding resolve, or youknow, who takes out the trash,
or what does Thanksgiving looklike, like, whatever the case
may be.
Rob (02:25):
So there's just all those
things, but one of the things
that we I'll never forget thefirst time we saw this couple
and the assessment came back,and one of their one of her
complaints was that he's alwayson the phone oh, yeah, remember
that, and it's like wow, we'venever seen that one and it
showed up several times afterthat.
So what's the point?
Today is about distractions,yes, and how they come in, how
(02:50):
they affect and how hopefullyyou can set up boundaries to
guard against those things.
But you've got things like andall of you that are listening,
obviously if you're on socialmedia podcasts, I hope our
podcast is not a distraction topodcasts.
As soon as I said that workstress.
Robin (03:09):
All the other ones are,
but not us folks.
All the other ones except us.
Rob (03:12):
Keep listening to us.
Family obligation and friendsand family.
Did I say family twice?
Madison (03:18):
You did.
Rob (03:19):
Yeah, that was on purpose.
But those things, if you're notcareful and not aware of them,
can become distractions, eventhings that you have to do, like
you, and I have talked aboutchores before, for example.
Robin (03:37):
Right, right, I mean,
chores are a part of life when
you're married.
There's no way to not do them.
Well, I mean, there are, are,but I think they call those
people hoarders.
Sorry, uh, you know, I did notsee that coming, or whatever but
you know, I mean, there'scertain things like you have to
wash the clothes sooner or later.
(03:57):
Uh, wow, I hope you clean thattoilet sometime in the near
future.
Rob (04:01):
You move out of Jumanji
because your yard is 10 feet
tall.
Robin (04:04):
Yeah, exactly, you know,
and all of those things are part
of married life.
But you know there's a time andplace for chores and those type
of things to be done and Ithink that if you time them
right then they're notdistractions.
Rob (04:23):
Well, they can be even time
to do things together.
I mean cooking, you know.
For example, they hit me today.
I mean that has been a journeyfor us, because I have my way of
cooking and you have your way,and that's something that I've
enjoyed, that we've made aneffort to work on of how we cook
together.
Right, you know, because it's alittle different, I'm a little
messier, you're cleaner, butthat's just the fact of the
(04:48):
matter.
Washing dishes is not a woman'sjob, Right, nor is it a man's
job.
It's our job and that's how.
All joking aside, I knoweverybody has their patterns,
but it's just there's somethingabout doing those things
together.
I mean, like, I'm veryprotective of the garbage, I
like taking the garbage out.
Robin (05:08):
You do and I like you
taking the garbage out.
I appreciate that.
Rob (05:11):
But you can have social
media, even television time,
your computer time.
All those things can become adistraction if you're not
careful.
So, with that, what do you needto do?
Obviously, you've got to talkabout it, but one of the main
things is learning how to setboundaries.
Yes, for those particularthings, and that can be very
(05:34):
difficult.
I was just, I was going to sayjust for younger couples, but I
think this can be difficult atany time.
If you've not done this, if youlearn how to do it in the
beginning, you've got to knowhow to set boundaries up with
your friends and with yourfamily it's true because ever
even good intentions can get inthe way, because their opinion
(05:58):
is sometimes just their opinionand but you, that's same.
You and I've said this we'retogether all the time.
Robin (06:06):
Right.
Rob (06:06):
I mean when we make up.
If you're not careful, you,whatever you shared with
somebody, they don't see.
When you make up, they don'tsee the resolve and now they
form an opinion about you orabout me versus understanding
you and I have worked that out.
So you've got to be careful notto allow too many outside
voices to come in.
Nothing wrong with seekingadvice or asking somebody's
(06:28):
opinion, that's not what we'resaying.
But you do have to guard.
Make sure what you share.
If you do share a problem withsomebody you really trust, make
sure to go back and talk to themand say, hey, I just want to
know, we worked this out, wetalked about it.
So you don't allow that otherrelationship to become a
distraction.
Does that make sense, this out?
Robin (06:44):
We talked about it.
So you don't allow that otherrelationship to become a
distraction.
Does that make sense?
That makes sense, yes, and Ithink, just to clarify even, I
think it's important for couplesto identify, you know, within
their marriage.
You know, what do you think arethe distractions in our
marriage?
And I think that it's honestand open communication that is
shared kindly, because sometimeswhat might seem like in a just,
(07:07):
I mean a distraction for memight not be a distraction to
you.
I was just thinking about thatand vice versa.
Uh, so you know, sitting andkind of thinking those things
through because, like you said,you know we're going back to,
you know, social media, ofcourse, our phone, you know we
can all get distracted, just,you know, scrolling forever,
(07:28):
looking at things, but workstress to, you know um
obligations, you know, work,stress, let's, let's camp there
just for a second we've beenvery honest and open.
Rob (07:39):
Everybody's wired different
, but one of the and you've said
this to me one of the greatestgifts that I've given you is the
ability for you just to dumpthe truck or unload the day and
allow you to process that, and Idon't have to fix that Right.
You, just as you, share thatwith me.
Going back to communication,that may feel like one-sided at
(08:00):
times, but that's crucial foryou to be able to let that
stress of the day go it at times, but that's crucial for you to
be able to let that stress ofthe day go.
So then you're able to focus onthe rest of the evening,
because if you don't and that'sit could be on both sides Men
need to do it too, to let go ofthe day.
Robin (08:13):
So you don't necessarily
carry that into your, your
personal or private time thatyou desire to have with your
spouse or with your kids, Right,and that time that you have,
and I think there's alsodistractions that come from work
, just with things that need tobe done.
You know, I mean there's somany people these days are
remote that you know a job thatstarted and ended and you walked
(08:37):
out the office.
I see a lot of people now youknow that are remote and the
expectation is basically you'rejust on call whenever we need
you, and trying to find ways to,uh, separate boundaries and
separate that time can be achallenge right but it's real
and you know, I think we've seenthat even now that we do, you
(09:01):
know, have friends and evenfamily that have worked remote
and sometimes it's like gosh, dothey ever get to not work Right
?
And?
Rob (09:13):
this is a side note on that
I would major encourage you to,
if you do work remotely or youdo work from home before your
spouse comes home it could bethe husband or the wife
encourage you to try your bestto have a time that you you
check out of work and startgearing yourself, whether that's
(09:33):
going outside, walking around,whatever that case may be ride
your bike, something thatseparates and unwinds that.
That you know.
Yes, you may be working fromhome but, your home is not your
office.
Right you understand what I'msaying?
Yes, it is, people have anoffice in the home that's not
what I'm saying but they knowhow to separate their work time
into their family time, because,if not, that can become a
(09:55):
distraction, because it'd beeasy to run.
You're in the living room andrun, there's your office and you
could go right back in and divein and, you know, miss out some
quality time with your husbandor your wife.
Robin (10:07):
Which leads into quality
time, right Quality time Exactly
.
Rob (10:10):
So again, that goes again.
So what I've been saying, we'reunderstanding, we're
identifying common distractions,we're hopefully learning how to
set boundaries, which you'vesaid so many times, comes by
great communication, yes, and soagain, creating quality time.
What does that look like foryou when you think about that?
Robin (10:31):
Well, for me, I think,
quality time is letting go of.
In my case, a lot of times it isthe chores, it's the things
that I'm looking at, the, youknow, in the house, when we're
in, uh, in the more in theevening, more later in the night
, and you know I'm thinking,well, I could squeeze in a load
(10:51):
of laundry, or I could, you know, do this or that, um, to tidy
up, or you know something,something along those lines.
And so, uh, learning how tojust let those things go, that
it's, you know, is that, themost important thing to be
focusing on right now.
Because quality time with you,you know, and just getting to
(11:11):
sit in the living room, talk,you know, share ideas, maybe
watch something on TV that'seven stimulating, and, you know,
right, we start sharing aboutour thoughts on whatever we're
viewing, that kind of thing is,is just great.
And sometimes for me, I know, adistraction can just be
(11:34):
something that's trivial but forsome reason feels like oh, you
know, I could go ahead and getthat done, because I really love
to check the box.
You know what I'm saying thatthat's I'm a.
I'm a doer at heart, and so youknow, once I go in and I like I
clean the bathroom, it's justlike you know.
Check the box I mean look atthat bathroom.
It looks great, sparkling,sparkling clean, you know, uh,
(11:57):
and, and I can get into thatmode easily because I actually
enjoy.
That really feels enjoyable tome.
I mean, I know there are peopleout there that that probably
sounds like no fun, but there'sa part of me that I really love
to organize and clean and all ofthat.
But we're talking about qualitytime and quality time is going
to be something that both of us.
Rob (12:18):
It's a de-stressor for you.
It is, and it is a de-stressor.
Robin (12:21):
But you know, at the same
time I love, just you know,
sitting in the living room withyou and just enjoying the night
together.
Right so to me that's qualitytime.
Rob (12:31):
You know I will say this
Something that I've seen us both
really work on over the years,though, are small little things
that that we do to let eachother know that we want to be
with each other in that moment.
You know, it can be somethingas simple as hey, I need to go
put a load of laundry in there,and I'll go, hey, let me go do
(12:51):
that for you.
And I go to it because, again,I know that I want to be with
you, so I can run, do that, soit doesn't become a distraction,
or it could be.
We are watching a show and thisseems so simple, but hitting
the pause button going, I wantto wait till you get back in
here because I want to have thismoment with you.
Yeah, so it's not always bigthings, right, I think and we've
(13:17):
talked to so many couples aboutthis, I know this is high on
both of our lists is working onhaving a date night.
Robin (13:24):
Yes, and you would think
that sounds like the simplest
thing to come up with a datenight.
But we have as we have sat withcouples not so much premarital,
but the couples have beenmarried for a while and and life
is busy and they have almostforgotten how to push back on
that, yeah.
How to even plan a date night.
(13:47):
Or or each person, each spouse,has their own opinion or idea
of what the date night should be, and so what happens is the,
you know, if one, if one spouseis very specific of like I
really want to go, do you knowfill in the blank, um, and the
(14:08):
other person's not.
Maybe they're not totally intoit but they still want to do it
because they know it meanssomething to their spouse.
But gosh, sometimes it's still.
It's like it can just gosideways, you know, I mean we've
seen couples that that havereally been disappointed in just
a date night because it's not,um, uh, living up to an
(14:29):
expectation and maybe, maybeit's because I don't know.
Is it that when you think of adate night, I mean are, are we
fantasizing what date nightsshould be, and then it's
romantic and all of?
These things and yeah, maybethe expectation's so high that
it's some guy playing a violinin the corner.
You know, I don't know right,you know I I don't know what
(14:49):
that's about, but exactly but Ijust see the disappointing side
of it from we're trying to moveaway from things that cause us
distractions.
Rob (14:58):
You know, I mean there are
ways to make the date night
successful.
You know you can ask hey, giveme a list of what your three or
four favorite restaurants are.
You know, but if one of you,you know whichever one puts
forth the effort to try to dothat, I mean, like we go out on
(15:19):
a date night just about everyweek.
We see that most time we gethome from work or sometimes
we'll go directly for it andwe'll go eat sushi, and it's not
.
It's not hours.
Robin (15:31):
No, I mean it's maybe an
hour and honestly we do.
We do that a lot, I mean.
So it's not like we're comingup with all these different date
nights for ourselves.
That's kind of like somethingthat we've scheduled on.
You know, one night every weekand it's the same night, and
then, yeah, we go to the samerestaurant.
Yeah, we even know all thepeople.
They, they, they know whatwe're going to order before we
even sit down.
And it's just kind of it's fun.
(15:53):
You know, it's like there's noheavy expectation or anything.
Rob (16:02):
It's light and it's just
enjoyable and I think, if you I
love being romantic, don't getme wrong.
I love planning those types ofdinners.
I love surprising you.
But you know well, I know thatif we're having communication
again, we're talking abouttrying to what causes
distractions.
Understanding that if we'rehaving communication again,
we're talking about trying towhat causes distractions.
(16:22):
Understanding that if we'rehaving great communication, I'm
going to have a knowledge ofwhat you like and don't like.
Yeah, and if I don't, that's onme, because I'm not asking you.
Yeah, yeah, and if you don'ttell me, that's on you.
Robin (16:38):
Yes, because that's part
of open communication.
Rob (16:40):
And that's what we try to
stress to some of these couples
that they create thisexpectation that they've never
told the other person what theywould like.
Right, so true, so again, andthat can become a distraction.
What's supposed to be somethinggood turns into something
negative because it wasn't whatyou had in your mind, but your
spouse won't know that, again,can't read your mind, right, if
you don't communicate.
(17:00):
There's been times even for us.
Robin (17:02):
I was trying to think you
know times that we've gone and
done things where, where youknow you, you've picked
something you know I'm going toreally enjoy.
Madison (17:11):
Right.
Robin (17:11):
It's not like maybe
something that you're going to
enjoy as much, but you you enjoyit because you know it means
something to me.
And I do think there's alsothat piece in there too that
should be considered that.
That makes it special when Iknow, you know, I don't know,
I'm trying to think of somethinglike I love gardening and
you've learned to enjoygardening.
Rob (17:33):
But like if.
I'm all hyped up about thebenefits of your growing a
garden okra.
Let's just say I haven't saidokra in a while.
Robin (17:40):
Love okra yeah, but you
know, if I'm gonna get all hyped
up and excited about ways toimprove the soil, it's not like
you're going yeah, let me hearabout that you know, um, but,
but there's been times when I'mjust so excited about it and I'm
like man, I just found thiswell like you, love going to a
farmer's market most of the time.
Oh my gosh, yes, absolutely.
Rob (18:01):
I can take it or leave it
Right or find new herbs like new
herb plants.
Yeah, give me those herbs, baby.
That's what I say every time.
Robin (18:10):
Like all the kinds of
mint, chocolate mint, orange
mint.
There's even strawberry mint, Ifound out.
Rob (18:15):
now I'm going to find one,
but I enjoy it because you enjoy
it and I get to spend time withyou.
Yes, that's what I'm talkingabout, because here's the thing
that's just hit me, and I wantto challenge some of you that
are listening to this.
If you make your spouse feelbad when they've planned a date
night and it's not what youexpected, it's more about you
than it is as a couple.
Robin (18:34):
Ouch, yeah, it's true,
very true.
Rob (18:37):
I'm just saying.
Robin (18:38):
That's really good.
Rob (18:44):
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, we test on this a littlebit.
Robin (18:45):
You've got to prioritize
communication.
Yeah, I mean, that's what we'retalking about, even right now.
Rob (18:47):
Exactly so you've got to,
and it's got to be where you can
express your concerns safely.
Robin (18:55):
Yes, or at least we hope.
I know sometimes we'll sayyou've got to no but we're
encouraging you that yes thatit's good.
Rob (19:02):
I don't, I and I understand
, because you've, you've caught
yourself a few times saying thiswe do want to suggest that, but
some of the things that we notjust us countless marriage
counselors, coaches, whatever.
There are things that for youto have a successful marriage,
you've got to be willing tochange, and healthy
(19:23):
communication is one of those.
If not, you're going to staystuck.
Robin (19:28):
Yeah, this is true.
Yeah, it's very true.
Rob (19:30):
I know I'm hitting it hard
tonight aren't I.
Robin (19:32):
That's good, it's good.
Rob (19:33):
But it is the truth.
Robin (19:34):
So I like this little
thing that we thought of too.
Going back to date nights andherbs, yeah, I want to talk
about herbs, some more Sage,basil, rosemary, thyme.
They're all my friends soanyway.
But you know, cultivating, oh,cultivating.
Rob (19:56):
There we go, cultivating
shared interests.
You know, iating, oh,cultivating.
Robin (19:58):
There we go, cultivating
shared interests, you know, and
and I think that this has beenreally fun, you know, we've done
some things to cultivate likenew interests, you know, cause,
like I said, I mean, sometimesour little date night every week
is the same thing, but thenthere's other times that we're
like, hey, let's be, let's bedaring and try something new.
(20:19):
So I can, I can think of onetime when we went and took an
archery class.
Rob (20:24):
Yes.
Robin (20:24):
It was really fun.
Rob (20:26):
I enjoyed that one.
You didn't have to sell me veryhard.
Robin (20:28):
Yeah, no, it was like
something that neither one of us
had ever done before, and itwas.
It was really fun.
Rob (20:35):
It was.
Robin (20:36):
And those are the kind of
things that if you guys can
just sit and just talk about hey, what about this, what about
that?
If you even go to the Chamberof Commerce sites in any city
and shoot, arrows no, but lookat different fun things that
might be coming into town, likeevents.
Fair word there.
Look out at different fun thingsthat they that might be coming
into town, like events um, orlook out no, there might be
(21:02):
events coming to your city or,uh, free classes and all kinds
of like cooking classes andright at community colleges.
Rob (21:10):
Um, how to make kombucha, I
don't know you know, I'm seeing
it on shows and movies wherepeople go take cooking classes
together and it's, you know,it's, it's discovering something
new together.
Yes, and that creates that bond.
Robin (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So I love all of that.
I'm even collecting, like youknow, usually when we go on a
trip, there's like like ourChristmas tree, we always, you
know, we want to find a, anornament, and it's like, it's
like something that meanssomething to both of us and it's
like a little hobby sort ofthing that we have where, you
know, we want to bring back anornament to put on the tree to
commemorate this trip, or youknow what I'm saying.
(21:48):
It's like even those littlethings, interests, hobbies, just
just fun stuff, you know, don'tdon't get too intense and heavy
with it, Just whatever comes tomind.
Rob (21:58):
We don't do this, but we
have talked to couples that,
because it was back to the cellphones, for example, that do
create, we do want to mentionthis.
Maybe this is you where youcreate.
You know a time where you haveno devices on or you put your
cell phones away.
I know families that atdinnertime they put them in a
bowl somewhere, so there's nodistraction with that.
(22:19):
So if that is, if you're seeingthat's a problem for you as a
couple, then, whether it's onyour iPad or whatever the case
may be, that may be.
And again going back tocommunication, if that bothers
you, your spouse can't read yourmind.
Talk about that and know ifthat may be something you need
to look at and to avoid havingdistractions during that time.
Robin (22:41):
Yeah, absolutely.
I know we've covered a lot here.
Rob (22:46):
We have one last, I think
one last thing.
This seems again we're talkingabout, we've talked about
communication, but this seemslike a very simple thing to say,
but number 10, we have a bunch,but this seems like a very
simple thing to say, but number10 is, you know, we've had, we
have a bunch of numbers here forus, so we're just going to say
I don't think we've been tellingthem any numbers, so they're
all like how did we get to 10?
No, we just skipped ahead, soanyway.
(23:06):
So we fast forward regularcheck-ins you know, the
important asking your spouse howare we?
And I know that sounds very youwould think you wouldn't have to
ask that question.
Yeah, but I, I think,especially when you've been, you
could be married a short amountof time, but the longer it goes
(23:27):
, the importance of going hey,how are we?
Because if you can get ahead ofthe distractions, if you can
get ahead of the when you feelemotionally disconnected, right
and just you know, ask and sayso, talk to me, yeah, where do
you, how are we doing?
Yeah, and that can be difficult, sure, because I mean again, or
(23:50):
maybe not difficult.
Robin (23:51):
Maybe I'm going to push
back on that a little bit.
It can be um uncomfortablemaybe, or maybe unfamiliar at
first.
Okay, I think it's one of those.
It's like a habit that's reallygreat to incorporate into your
married life, but it's not likesomething that typically in
(24:11):
general, you know, we'reconstantly how's our marriage
right now?
Madison (24:13):
Right, you know what I
mean.
Robin (24:15):
It's something that's
going to be intentional.
That's a better word, right?
Maybe not unfamiliar as much asintentional.
Rob (24:26):
Because, again, we're
talking about outside
distractions that can come in.
And when I say check in, youknow we've talked so much before
in the past about arguing andthe stress that can cause that
can come with that.
So, understanding when you,when you, if you sense something
, why not just ask if you feelstress or you feel a work
(24:49):
situation, you know, or likework, for example, if, if I know
, you're stressed and I ask youthat that's a check in, so how
are things at work?
Yeah, yeah for sure what's goingon there and you tell me most
of the time.
But just me asking keeps usconnected, it keeps the
distractions away and it doesn'tallow anything to build up,
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because that's what ourdistraction becomes.
It can be something that buildsup over time and if we're not,
we don't recognize.
Because, again, every greatmarriage that we know
continually works on thesethings.
Robin (25:22):
Yes.
Rob (25:22):
And it's so.
As we end today's episode, wejust really want to encourage
you to take actionable steps toprotect your marriage from
distraction.
Yes, and you've got toprioritize your marriage from
distraction, yes, and you've gotto prioritize.
You've got to look at, you knowwhen, when are the distractions
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the heaviest, what that maylook like, and just communicate
and say you know, because, again, marriage is worth it.
It's worth, yes, it's worthbeing uncomfortable at times,
absolutely yeah.
Robin (25:55):
Yeah, I don't think
there's anything wrong with that
at all, because that's wheregrowth comes.
Rob (26:00):
Oh yes, absolutely yeah,
we're going to do something a
little different today Before weclose.
We just want to.
We just really felt impressedto do this.
We've never done this on apodcast before, but we just, as
you're listening to we just kindof wanted to say a prayer over
you as a couple and ask Godbless your marriage.
Yes, that's what we're going todo, father.
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We just thank you for eachcouple that is listening.
We pray protection over them,protection over their marriage,
protection over their timetogether and any outside
distraction that tries to comein and separate them.
We just pray that you give themwisdom of knowing how to pause
and step back, ask goodquestions and, most of all,
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invite you in to every situationthat they've got.
Robin (26:49):
Yes, so good, and we just
bless you.
Guys, everybody that'slistening.
We just want to say thank youand we just pray that God
blesses you, whatever is goingon in your lives personally.
We just pray that if you havequestions, that God will bring
answers and solutions and wejust pray that he would keep you
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, strengthen you.
We pray joy into your marriageand that you would just fall
deeper and deeper in love andthat you lean on him in
everything.
Rob (27:24):
Yes.
Robin (27:25):
Yeah.
Rob (27:26):
Yeah.
Robin (27:27):
Because there's nothing
we can't accomplish without him
yeah, and so we just bless youguys.
Yeah, in Jesus' name, yeah.
Rob (27:33):
Thanks for listening.
See you soon, see ya Bye.
Madison (27:38):
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