April 19, 2024 • 61 mins
What happens when we let ourselves get distracted by the media? How can protective factors protect our kids from trauma and abuse? On this episode of MMP, Tess and Anne continue to delve into the latest current events; between Diddy leaving on a jet plane, "Kategate", and the quiet on set documentary, we have our hands full! Join the conversation and go onto this wild ride with us. Have you joined the MMP Fam yet?
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Music.
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And four and three period i don't care what nobody said that theme song go hard
it does it does i love it i don't care whoever calls it corny we love it,
not you calling out my person we got beat no no we don't we don't it's cool
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it's cool it's cool I know it's cool. I like her.
I like her too. You can keep her.
Thanks. Welcome to another episode of the Melanin Movement Podcast with Tess
and Anne. This is your girl, Anne. Hey, Anne.
Hey. I got Tess on the other side of the mother-loving mic. Hi.
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How you doing? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's good to see you.
Good to see you too. You look great. I'm grateful. phone yeah it's the
lighting if you can if you can see the stress pimples
going on i was like let me just
put a little powder on just because though for something to
be on the internet forever and then the
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last video we took i looked so good on my side and
when we download the video from your side i looked
rough struggle no i look my skin looks dry i promise you i didn't notice so
I would have said something I would have been like and maybe you might want
to grease up a little bit a little something I don't know what it is but a little
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something you know a little something,
yeah that's right that's right that's right.
Oh my goodness so this uh 2024 has been really like running why are you running
why are you running why are you running because it's about to be april oh my
god i feel like we blend in,
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man i'm actually quite grateful that it's almost april because
i'm ready for a lot of things in my life to come to a close however come i
just feel like the like since the beginning of the the year since kat
williams went on to club shea shea he's been
pretty good okay before before
we go into all of that i just want to say like i don't know how much you believe
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in like astrology and like club like so people were talking a lot about the
age of aquarius and how the age of aquarius was going to be a lot about like
ai just running a muck like a muck and like all the spaces and infiltrating
all of that stuff, right?
But also a lot of truths being revealed and coming up to the surface and people
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getting caught up in their actions that they've gotten away with for years.
And when I tell you this first quarter has been lit already with like revelations
and Cat Williams, I feel like, you know, it's kind of like set the stage and
then like, I mean, you know, he walks so that all this other stuff could just like run and fly.
So anyway, I just wanted to like, how do you feel? Cause I keep thinking back to like Age of Aquarius.
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I'm like, oh my God, is that you? you know because you're
talking about the limelight wait let me
let me see you play so how do
you feel like do you like do you agree that you feel like that's probably like
what's happening too like it's like the it's just a season for the reason just
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a season for some for real for
real uh so i get oh would cat williams be considered a modern day prophet,
i mean i don't hate it i don't hate that thought at all i mean you you might
be onto something because he sure he said reveal all he's like ocean spread
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like and he's like everything's just like.
Yeah you were saying really quick
on the adhd like imagine there's a meme i would love for someone to create this
if someone's in production it's like there's a meme and it's like kat williams
looking like moses right with his robe with his staff and he's standing in front
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of the ocean and the ocean is splitting and on the other side of the ocean is hollywood,
that would be dope that would be that would be a dope meme oh my god,
that's a visual for real for real you're so creative I would love to see that
somebody make it happen make it oh that would be a good meme for the first like
when it says quarter one of 2024 cat.
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He said, if he not set, if he not set. He was not messing around, let me tell you.
So tell me about what's been going on. Girl. Because you know, you plugged in.
Well, you know, I try. For the few hours I have to myself a day,
there's been a lot of things just going on.
I know last we spoke, we were talking about like Kate Middleton.
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We talked about everything that's going on in the environment and things of that nature.
But for this episode, we have to dedicate more time.
I mean we gotta talk about old boy with truth social but his bullshit and then
i do want to talk about the diddy raid everything that's going on with him and
hopefully the illuminati don't cut me off because we need to talk about it right
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it seemed like he got kicked out the out the circle,
oh my god is that what it is i
mean i don't know because it did imagine someone's running yeah
imagine all the things that he's been alleged
right all the way back from the whole tupac biggie
situation how he set up like the pew pew with biggie and
tupac right so imagine since that era to 2024 the empire that he's built right
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and the reign so like and then the connection that he has that quote unquote
like has been giving him like like anyway he's attached to power that's been
giving him like you know attachments to certain things making all the monies and all all that stuff.
So I just feel like either something happened on that sector,
on that side where they're like, okay, we can't rein you in anymore.
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You've been like cut off or whatever.
The the wrong thing happened to the right person you feel me and they're like all right then.
Okay then so tell me about
this raid so what happened so diddy's how he has two houses well he has more
than that but his house in la and his house in miami both got raided by homeland
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security and one thing about homeland security that we've learned is that like
obviously they take too long to research things because you know when it comes
to things that matter like predatory things
they'll wait a whole decade to arrest people they'll know
certain things is happening and never like go on
with it however comma for your house to be raided to
that capacity to where like they pulled out his sons
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and had them arrested and they were sitting on the side of the lawn they arrested
members of his team for alleged things that were put out in the what was that
called what's something that that someone puts together to go up to the courts
the alleged items anyway the alleged items had a few of his people listed on
there for different things and the people that were listed on there were arrested
if they were in Diddy's home, right?
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Because there's like a suspected like drug mule that was in there,
his assistant, blah, blah, blah, got arrested, taken out, right?
And then they provided video from the raid, which is odd to me.
Because like, have they ever, did they, have they ever provided a video of a raid to that capacity?
Like when they put Jeff Epstein's home out, it was it put together.
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It wasn't it raided. Has it ever been read?
I don't know. I feel like the answer to that is a yes.
There have been situations like high profile situations where they have released
videos of like them like kind of trying to catch the person or like I remember.
I mean, that was a long time ago. But O.J. Simpson, when there was like a lot
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of that was televised, not just like his trial, but like anything,
like everything that led up to to to it. Yeah.
But I don't know how like how how often they've done it. And I don't I don't
think it's a common occurrence.
So I do find it curious that they did release that footage.
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Worth looking into. I wish I had more information on that.
Now that we're talking about it. But that is definitely like a keen observation.
That they would just like, you know, display it like that.
But for Trump's raid, when they thought that he had all for all those documents
he had in his home, on stage, in his house, they had showed the helicopter view
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of those agents pulling out those documents from the house, but not view of inside the house.
But I understand because he was a president that, of course,
that's a bigger safety issue, not that he's ever not exposed his life before.
However, I could see how they're a little bit more secretive with his raid because
of his ranking and the social hierarchy.
But like okay so Diddy and then,
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Diddy's thing has just been really really really wild and then the the raid
and showing each room and things like that showing his safe,
which I thought was wild like it's one thing they showed his safe they showed
his safe they showed what he had in his safe where his safe was his safe is in one of his closets.
And it's and then they opened it and they showed everything in his safe and,
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everything how why would someone do
that i just don't feel like that's okay like unless
you had like unless like there's paperwork in there or
there's something that is saying like drug trafficking you
know like something related to what they're doing and they're showing the
evidence i'm so sorry i'm laughing
because what you just said i just pictured opening
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the safe and it's like this single piece of paper
that is from there and it's just
his confession like i am a human
like or something like trafficker or i am imagine
just having safe or just like the safe is
like the word inside so it's
like that's my safe what's my safe oh my god
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another me another me yeah for
real but no like they showed like where his
safe was it's like they like it's like a zoom out and they
show his entire closet then you can see where his safe is located and
then there was another scene it was like just them showing like
the safe and everything that's in the safe so it's wild so these people now
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know where he lives what the insides of his house look like and what his what's
inside his so you can draw an entire blueprint of like of the two if you plan
on you know doing a heist or something man but they're probably
nothing of value there still right they probably still are i mean i don't know where is he.
Where do you be like where is
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he is he like where is he like because i know okay
so the last thing i i learned and i haven't seen i haven't gotten any follow-ups
from that is that they couldn't he wasn't at any of his homes oh he was at the
airport they had tracked his they had tracked his plane his plane was en route
to was it antigua antigua it was antigua and they don't have any the extradition laws there, right?
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But then was he in the plane? Like, is he still in the U.S.?
Yeah, he is. Okay, so he's not arrested?
So from from the 25th of March, when the raid happened, he was at Opelika Airport in South Florida.
When they said Opelika, that's down the street. Opelika.
It's a hop and a skip away. Hop and skip. Want to go see daddy.
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No, don't. Don't do it. Shit. If I can. No, no, I don't want no involvement.
No, no, no, no. No contest. contest no but
so okay so he so his daughters he has
twin daughters who are in school or school age right
and he was like oh yeah there's a raid coming
someone had to have tipped him off for him to be in the airport right well i
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mean whatever he was going on vacation to antigua with his two daughters right
and homeland security was like stop it stop where are you going,
why are you running why are you running i know
so they stopped him or whatever but his but the plane
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i don't know who i don't know if his daughters were on the plane or
if anybody else was on the plane because like the video that they showed on
the news was him speaking with homeland security and his daughter speaking to
security or yeah so but the thing is he stayed is what i know i don't know about
his family but the plane left the plane left opelika and still It was a distraction. To Antigua.
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It could be. It could be. It could be a divergent. He has a whole nother plane
somewhere else that's already been delivered. Delivered.
Delivered. Crazy. Dang. It's wild. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Anyway, the news is saying that he's like the black, you know, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah.
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Imagine. I mean, he had an incredible amount of power.
Another thing that I learned recently, like, thank you, TikTok,
was that a while ago, back in the night, like 1999 or something like that,
J-Lo had known some stuff because she was part of the inner circle.
And so he paid her off, like he paid her for her silence.
And so they had like an entire like court thing or whatever.
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And she's like, I ain't seen nothing. I know nothing. I heard nothing. Meanwhile.
And that was it. according to the woman that he pew-pewed
in the club in the 90s right so that's how this whole
j-lo thing is involved so in the 90s p diddy
was in the club you know doing his thing shoulder rocking or
whatever and that's when he was dating j-lo and in the
club or whatever whatever was going on there was
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a young lady by his section and he was getting
all rattled or whatever supposedly and allegedly j-lo was
the one who gave him the pew-pew and then when he bright.
Like supposedly allegedly and then
the woman who got poom poom in the face literally saw
diddy do it so as she was being pulled
out of my guys so allegedly he paid
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off like the club and the bouncers or whatever to
stay quiet and not say that he did it and when
they went to so when this woman got pulled out in the
hospital she's like diddy poom poom me diddy poom poom
me like and in you know you
can't say these words so i got you i got you so in
the hospital she's saying that whatever and then um in in
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in so it's recorded she's saying it right went to
court and she was like this man peeped me like pointed him
out whatever but what it was the one
of the confessions that diddy did with his one of
his producers was like i i get away with peeping people all
the time that club in that club that went to in the 90s
i'll peep you that girl i nothing period and then and
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then he had one of his friends go down for him a dude named shine
took took the rap for him and went to jail for him
for peeping someone so imagine so oh
somebody would imagine so now she's asked me to take a blame for something like
that and go to jail but imagine he probably he probably got him set up somewhere
you know i'm saying if you if you take the rap for me i'm gonna make sure your
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family's set for life yeah like you You're going to be straight.
You know what I'm saying? You might be in here, but your books going to be covered.
You're going to be living lavish in the jailhouse.
Mm-hmm you and the sheriff gonna be real acquainted.
Wild it's gonna just and then what happened i was like
it's juicy
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and i know i shouldn't be enjoying it so much but you
tell me i'm like tell me more i mean tell me
more i know the woman that got people and
wants to reopen the case so that so that diddy
is tried for it versus shine however the the
whole like double jeopardy thing i don't know if that would reopen
but i mean it's something that is in his case file that it's added to diddy's
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like list of allegations and as evidence so i'm not sure what's gonna go on
from there but there's a lot going on and one thing just to keep in mind like
homeland security don't go to your crib for no reason they it's not like a knock
knock knock oh we heard nah babes.
The amount of time it takes to build evidence and enough reason to kind of like obtain a warrant,
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right, that is worthy to for an investigation worthy of a warrant is pretty,
it's pretty rigorous. Like, it takes a lot.
Like, I remember back to the, like, the, like, drug-infested Miami days,
how long it took for them to build this case against this cocaine drug lord
back in, I remember, like, back in, it was, like, 1970s.
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Like, when, yeah, when the coke was, like, I forgot his name,
but, like, he had an entire, an entire, like, empire that was,
like, securely built. And it took years before they could bring him down.
And the documentary is actually, I think, still on Netflix.
And I was like, dang, it takes a long time. And they can't just go on a hunch.
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Like they need to have it. Because like if something happens,
imagine suing Homeland Security. Right. Right.
You know what i'm saying like it's a lot it's it's a
lot but anyway yeah and then i heard that suge
knight the guy that's like you know supposedly um you
know tupac apparently from the jailhouse told
him that yo you better watch
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out you're gonna get raided but how did he know that suge
knight is connected suge imagine that's wild
no he went the thing that's really ridiculous
listen to shik night had the audacity to go on an
interview like while he's in jail to say to stand up
for diddy out of all the people to stand up
for me please don't let it be shik night you know what
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i'm saying like you're not helping me bro like you're not like shut up anybody
asked you to do nothing shut up your mouth it's like it's like it's like the
sign is like no like cut it out and nobody but the thing that was really interesting
so i was watching jesse woo right.
Jesse woo shout out to
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jesse woo we love a haitian queen exactly thriving uh
she was giving the whole rundown she really went into depth i i kudos
to her she has a graduate degree i think she did i think
she has a background in law which is actually quite amazing she
speaks like four languages girl yes we love an educated
haitian queen anywho she went to a whole
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different a whole list of things that's going on and
i was just so blown away so suge knight dumbass
he he's been in him and diddy are
in cahoots obviously because like because what
was it was it it wasn't murder what is it what was suge knight's record label
was it murder no murder ink is charu what is it was something record that's
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where was his face yeah that's where tupac was yeah anyway yeah yeah so he was
of course his stuff he's a mean gel forever because all of his compounded evidence.
Forever and so because he's known
imagine the things that he's gone through and gone away with
over the years he has people on the inside and outside that's
telling him what's going on still of course so i mean
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if if i was him i
wouldn't be the one to call diddy to say something is
going on you know what i'm saying i would like i would
create code words or i would have somebody else that's completely
unrelated but oh you you don't know who i am cool great call this number call
this number but do you think that he would have like trusted that information
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from coming from somebody else imagine you get a call from the same jail cell
that like someone you worked with is it's coming from and they say something very specific.
I feel like you would have known. I feel like somebody with as much influence,
I feel like unless you have this incredible amount of just pure arrogance and
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narcissistic tendencies about you,
you should know that at some point your misdeeds will no longer go unpunished.
I feel like you should kind of prepare yourself for an inevitability of your
life just coming crashing down around you.
Unless, again, you feel like you're invincible, which maybe that's what the
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diamond triangle people, you know, all seeing eye, or maybe that's what they're about.
Out like maybe it's about you know the fact that they they create
so much of like cushioning around themselves like
they believe to the point like they are in fact invincible but i mean i was
like reading some other things where i i read that even like people like jay-z
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like they're coming for them too you know like so i don't know it's gonna be
interesting i feel like when with power people People do get that feeling of being like invincible.
I feel like people need to be reminded, though, like even if you are this amazing
person, mogul, whatever, there is less chances you'll be caught if you're a white guy.
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But if you're a black guy, there is just a higher chances you might just get caught up.
Your likelihood drastically increases.
That's true. That's something to be talked about. So that's continuing and we're
going to just see how that goes.
There's more to come. More to come. Last thing, last thing, last thing,
last thing, last thing, because this...
Tell me more. Oh, my God. The...
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The evidence that was submitted into the court for
this man for diddy's arrest wild supposedly allegedly
girl there was cameras inside the
bedrooms in his mansion where he was having these parties
right and supposedly allegedly and this was on i found this on tiktok by the
way so that like you know how he was having like these fun parties right free
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parties yeah and people were able to you know do their thing or whatever and
supposedly the videos if they're doing with something compromising.
So if the person that's in there is married and they're doing something with
someone else, if they're doing things that either gay or different or whatever it is,
that Diddy would now have that evidence and that evidence would be leveraged
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against them when it came to what music was coming out, what videos were coming
out, what money was going to projects and things like that.
Supposedly, he was really blackmailing people to make sure that he stayed on
that billboard list, right?
With his company and who he's involved with, his name wouldn't be necessarily
directly on that list of billboard.
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But if you go into billboard and you see how many times Bill,
not billboard, Universal, Universal is listed on billboard, you'll see that
they occupy one third of the billboard charts, right?
And then the person, the owner of Universal is someone who's listed on Diddy's
allegations of who was, you know, supplying him with certain things,
control, money, power, or whatever, was through this owner of Universal.
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And Diddy is part of Universal. So if Universal makes money,
Diddy makes money. And Diddy has supposedly these alleged videos.
So that's also something that's listed on his documentation.
Oh my God. Crazy. The wass is getting wass up. Wass up, wass up.
No, no, no, please do it, do it. Tell me.
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Tell us. I hope the listeners is listening because we out here, right?
So on the allegations. You came prepared and I'm loving it.
I'm loving it so much. On the allegations, the producer that actually put these
allegations together, he was asked by Diddy to record everything.
You know, now we're in the, this is the shit that gets you fucked up.
This age of Aquarius, all this digital shit.
Did it was like record everything i we're gonna
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do a documentary record everything so imagine and then imagine you're recording
everything and someone is doing illegal shit in front of you and it's all recorded
so the things that this producer was recording and you know wherever they were
with diddy they have hundreds of hours of evidence.
Because the producer still has the footage
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that is i hold
so i think do you think it's going
to be like a demonstration of loyalty as well like who
who keeps it who still has his back and
versus who doesn't or do you think like in that like regardless
if you know you are part of this thing that they're gonna find your you're gonna
they're gonna find your footage or evidence or whatever your record regardless
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anything because imagine this has been going on since last year publicly last
year so like imagine the only person since last year when all this thing became
public the only person to stand up for P.
Diddy was Suge Knight but P. Diddy is involved with many many many people and
nobody nobody has gone on social media has made a public statement has done anything to say nah P.
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Diddy's he's a he's a stand-up guy that's all I'm saying.
That's what i'm saying you're just gonna leave it right there you're
just gonna like let that thought marinate but anyway
if you have any more information any like little tidbits that you want to like
you know drop them in the chat or drop them in the comment section as we release
this you know like like you know send us direct message like we're plugged in
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you want to know Yeah, because I will watch it. Mm hmm.
Mm hmm. This is going to be a huge,
you know, because these people do see themselves as like God like, right?
This is going to be like a public crucifixion type vibe. And I feel like Diddy is going to.
Because this is going to be a publicized case.
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I think he's going to put himself as that person. Like I'm being made an example of I'm being crucified.
And so I just see that as the next thing.
I just rolled my eyes so heavily right now. It's like, of course,
you're going to be the lamb for sacrificial whatever.
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It doesn't make... I mean, it's not true, but I understand what you're saying
because it's like, oh my God, woe is me type thing.
It's very annoying. Because I think...
In the midst of all of this, what really is messing me up is,
like, especially for millennials, and you'll know what I'm talking about,
I feel like so much of our childhood is being, like, ruined and deconstructed.
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Because like there are those are people we looked up to those are people
with like whose music we survived to like these
are people like that we in the public like gave opportunities
to other folks you know like help other musicians and
other artists like get like come into the spotlight and and get discovered and
all of that stuff like some of the connections and the like you know what I
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mean it just it's such a deeply woven part of our like upbringing and seeing all of that just
being like all of the, you know, wolf and sheep's clothing type of thing,
like all of that coming to light.
I mean, first of all, like it's very interesting to see just like the lengths
to which somebody would go to
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just do things that are just absolutely atrocious, but more so like how,
what are, what are the lengths that you're going to go
through to show this facade and this mask
of innocence or benevolence that you
actually don't even give two craps about and how
much how much you just fool people into
thinking like here here's who you are and then it's
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just fake as fake as hell and I just it really
bothers me because I no
longer feel right vibing to like some of some songs and some music or some things
you know that we just grew up you know just really listening to and I don't
know it's just a lot it's it's really a lot because because music Music certainly
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helped me with English, with English language.
And I would write down those lyrics very feverishly, you know,
and like learn them and read them and listen to them.
And it's just so sad. It's really sad.
So if you're grieving your childhood.
You're grieving your some of your upbringing because of the type of because
of what's happening with these artists you know just just know like
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we're i'm right there with you because it's a tough one i do feel like recently
we have been grieving our childhood everything is being exposed i feel like
specifically for diddy i felt like he was someone to pay attention to way before
i felt like something that showed his true colors with when he was doing making the
band remember he had like a group danny cane and how
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he was like yes i love you
love danny and the way he treated them and the things that
they had to do it didn't make sense and then when
everything like fell apart like they didn't get paid like the
producers of what's going on didn't get paid a lot of
this stuff is coming up because he just wasn't paying people you know i'm
saying he wants to do all this ridiculousness and then not pay
you is wild but like i from watching
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that show i was like this is diddy is just
not that guy like it gave me like
crazy boss vibes from even when i was younger
and i feel like now as things are coming out nobody was
surprised when cassie had her whole case come out when cassie's allegations
come out cassie seemed like she was someone that was kept on a short leash every
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time we saw her whatever so like when her allegations came out nobody was surprised
nobody said no diddy is not that guy whatever nobody.
Stood up for him so like all these things happening it's not surprising for
me you get what i'm saying yeah yeah speaking of ruining our childhood that
was a perfect segue uh-huh yeah keep digging keep digging what's up.
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Not only is the millennials future on a whack but our past was shit too you
know life is good like future says.
What do you got so have you seen quiet on set,
Oh, my God. No, I have seen snippets. I have heard about it.
I have seen videos about it. I hate the way there's spoilers.
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Like, have you, have you, have you, have you seen it? I've seen it.
I watched the fourth episode yesterday, but there's supposedly a fifth episode coming out too.
Tell me, tell me. Okay. So I feel like maybe tell me like the most shocking part about it.
I think for me, the most shocking piece about it
were like all of the subliminal like gestures and like
hand gestures and like comments and statement like or
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like some like some of the the script pieces that
were written like seeing i don't know i think there's something about
i'll speak to victorious as an exact a quick example like
the in like the the feigned innocence
right portrayed of ariana ariana grande and
the comment that she would just say in like the most innocent voice like
looking at some of the ways that she would like kind of carry her bodies
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and some of the comments she would make about like licking things or
like you know eating certain things and then just like
now i felt weird you know
it was like cringe at the moment like where i was
watching it but i couldn't i couldn't pick i couldn't.
Figure out why it was cringe worthy to me.
But then it's like having that i don't
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know just like the the this information kind of
validating that you're like that's why that
shit was weird to me and like it makes so much sense
now but anyway what was like the most like aw like
strucking thing for you i feel
like i don't want to give away too many spoilers but i feel like
this documentary made complete sense the
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whole thing with ariana grande made complete sense i just felt
there was something about her i just couldn't watch it like i didn't watch sam and
kat i went and she was on victorious i love
listening to her sing but hate when she spoke i'm like
that's not her real voice like why are they making her talk like that
and she was like you know like moving her shoulders up and down
like you said i always thought that was odd and i was like this is something
about this is just weird and then something that
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they pointed out that i thought as well when i was watching
it when i watched was it zoe 101
with um jamie and then spears the way
that these young girls was just out and bathing like not
that bathing suits is is not okay because you're a young girl you
can wear whatever you want is just the way that they were always
like exposed and like laying down they
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were always like in bikinis laying down like always
doing things I'm just like I just don't understand why there's so many scenes
like this you know what I'm saying anyway that's like when I was watching it
before they even showed the clip of Zoe I'm like I wonder if they're gonna do
Zoe and they did I was like oh good it wasn't just me thinking it so when a
few things were being pointed out I was like okay Okay, that makes sense.
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The things that really drove me crazy was just talking about Drake Bell.
Drake Bell's experience.
Tell me, tell me, okay, tell me, tell me your thoughts about it because I'm really curious.
Because people, I even saw like, I think as earlier as,
as today we're like look like investigate more like keenan keenan went into
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his like investigate and i don't i'm not making any judgment i'm not making
any more like i'm not passing any moral judgment i just really want to hear
because first of all first and foremost,
believe victims always and i'm i'm going to die on that hill but i really am
curious as to like what you got from his experience.
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It broke my heart. It broke my heart because, and I 1000% blame his mother.
And I know like, I feel like a lot of stories that happened in the nineties,
a lot of these parents needs should have been like the whole thing with R.
Kelly, the parents should have been like more hands on.
The thing with Nickelodeon, these parents, because I know me,
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there's no way in hell you're going to tell me I can't be in this room with my son.
What's gonna happen what's what's what's the
next step tell me what you're gonna fire me cool because you're
not gonna be in this room with my son while he's changing you're not
gonna be rubbing on my son's shoulders you're not gonna be helping
him get dressed you're not gonna be talking to him late at night
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you're not gonna be picking him up and dropping him off and picking him multiple
times he's not gonna be staying at your house like you
know what i'm saying like there's just certain things i just what so
okay for example i'll do a quick thing but i won't go too deep for people who
haven't watched it drake bell's father was the
one that was like putting his hand up like no that's inappropriate no that's
inappropriate he went and he said something what's his name brian beck
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is it brian beck is his name the one that molested drake
bell he's the one that you know you know
his dad was like no this man is being
inappropriate with my son and then the people that worked like on set was like
well you know he's gay and maybe you're just being a little homophobic and I
was like this grown 40 year old man helping my son put on his pants is me being homophobic.
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And then that's why he was like, no, after that, I started speaking up more.
No, you cannot help my son. And he started being, you know, like very active.
And then this guy got into, you know, Drake's head. Your dad is too much.
Create a rift between him and his dad. Then he exiled his dad and his mom was
helping him instead as a manager.
His mom was living her life and was allowing this molester to be the person
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that's taking Drake everywhere, whatever, whatever.
And later on, like he, he experienced these, these terrible things for years.
It wasn't, he wasn't just like, oh, one incident happened, people caught on
and then it was reported.
He, this, I think it's two years. I think it was two plus years that he was going through things.
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And it's, the dad told the mom, you can do whatever you want.
You don't want me to handle know this drake is saying he don't mean to
be part of this cool but this one
person do everything in your mind to
not let this person be around drake and the one person he said don't do it she's
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like handed drake to him the guy's like oh yeah i i can take him to these things
he can stay at my house i can do all these things for him no problem and the
mom was like all right are you serious I was livid.
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Single parent, obviously, and nor do I need to know. But I'm thinking about
like what makes a child vulnerable in a family unit.
And parents, a lot of times, are like, you know, like they're supposed to be
the primary line of defense, right?
You're supposed to be the protector to that child's experience.
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And I'm wondering like how much of, again, going back to like the way that our
society is structured, how much is rooted in survival? And...
The need to feel like that, not the need to feel, but like the feeling that
you need to accept certain situations because you want so much a better life
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or better, better circumstances,
more opportunity for your child, for your children or what have you.
And I mean, I don't know, again, that parental instinct.
I can't speak to that. I feel as though there has to be something Like as a
parent where you kind of notice like something is off with your kid, you know, like the say.
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For example, something happened and you couldn't prevent that first thing from happening.
I feel as though you you've got to notice a shift.
I feel like there's got to be a point in time where you're like, my kid is different.
My kid is behaving differently, is talking to me differently, maybe more closed off.
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But then it has to be like you've had to you have to have established some sort of like a trusting,
you know, healthy relationship with your child first and be an observant parent
and be an involved and engaged parent first before you get to the point of like
noticing when those shifts are happening.
So how much of that disengagement happened from before that created these pockets
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of vulnerability where these grown people could then leverage to abuse,
molest, take advantage,
you know, use and usurp like those kids' innocence in their bodies and everything
else. You know what I'm saying?
And as a part of that, it's like, are you yourself like starstruck or impressed
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with like the level of just fame and popularity and money that's coming into
the bank where you don't have to worry anymore,
where you are willing yourself to ignore those very signs and not messes up people?
You know what I'm saying? Like, oh my God, my heart still breaks to this day
for Amanda Bynes and like all of the, I mean, I don't know, like from time to
time she'll like pop up on my FYP and.
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And I see, like, the things that she's doing. And I feel like there's a lot
of that effort to just kind of, like, be normal.
Like, she's just trying to get her, you know, her nail tech license right now
and going to take the exam, for example, you know. And it's like, okay.
She failed it. She failed it. And she's trying. And she's trying.
Yeah. She said she's going to keep trying.
She's going to keep and keep trying, you know. She's stuck somewhere.
Like, those lives absolutely ruined. So I'm wondering like how much of those
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like, again, yeah, parent accountability, 100% definitely.
I'm wondering like how much of that is like, oh, you're willing to overlook
certain things because you want so badly for you not to starve or for you not
to have what you need or for you not to give your kids what they need or whatever the case is.
Or sometimes at their own insistence as children, like I want to do this.
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I want to become an actor.
I want to be famous. I want to be popular, whatever the case is, right?
And you're not going to stop me. And then the parent is like,
okay, well, then this is what we're going to do.
There has to be some form of reasoning somewhere though. I feel like you should
support your children in the things that they want to aspire to do.
I support that 1,000%. Reasonably. Reasonably.
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However, it's important to keep, like, again, like
if something happens to your child even even if
there's someone else that's doing it you are going to be blamed for
it you are supposed to protect your kids like
the thing is with with drake's mom is that
i felt like the decisions that she made to allow this man to be around drake
was in spite of her of the dad like they had a really crazy divorce and for
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someone specifically to say i
have no problems with you taking over everything i just ask that you keep
Our son, away from this one person, I don't care if I hate my son's father.
I can't stand his breathing type vibe.
But if you tell me that that's something that you saw, bet.
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You feel me? You ought to trust. I mean, you trusted that person at some point in time, right?
And again, it's not about you. It's about your child.
And it's coming from a place. It's like you can be you can have all the beef
that you want with your significant other, with your spouse or whatever.
But like or but if they if they are an excellent parent and they have demonstrated
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time and time again how much of like a good parent they are and they tell you
something or give you some sort of warning, like heed it.
You know what I mean? Like heed that warning and do and do that.
Do that one thing because it's so selfish to me and it makes me,
it fuels me with rage that out of spite for your ex-spouse, you're going to
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risk your child's life, well-being.
Sanity, innocence, all of that stuff.
You know, to me, it's just like it enrages me. And I don't know. It's just it's awful.
It is awful and this show really made me
like it just makes you think because there's so many things that are
out there like where is this child star now and imagine
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the things that these child stars have to go through I have
to make sure I get out of child stardom into full
stardom and not f up anywhere not end
up an addict not do this and not do that there's so
much pressure from early on and like
for you to think that your child won't experience some type
of mental break you have to consider your
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child's well-being in between all of that right you want
to do this movie cool we're gonna do this movie and we're gonna take a two-month break
you want and i understand that's hard i get it because
i i mean i'm not in that type of life i don't
know how that works however i know how
my brain works and if i'm going and going
and going and going and going and going and going and not
stopping for any point in time for to
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take my break i'm going to lose my mind and in fact
it's proven that these people have lost their minds
like they've lost themselves they they've they've had
they've struggled with addiction they said they've struggled with finding themselves
their identities they've struggled with integrating into just regular civilian
life like there's so many things that just aren't being handled but i also understand
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true is a different time like us in 2024 if my son was in this i would make
sure that he was in therapy whatever.
Because of access and conversation and communication but back then I can understand
how like something like that may not be as discussed but my my rebuttal to that
is Drake Bell is a white man.
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He's a white man. Both of his parents are white. You know what I'm saying?
You're making enough money to have access to things to the point that people
around you are doing those things.
The thing that got Drake Bell help was that his girlfriend's mom noticed something
off about him. Not his mama.
His girlfriend's mom noticed that there's something off about him.
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Something off about the guy that was blowing up his phone.
Something off about his, like, I don't want to go home. You know what I'm saying?
Someone else had to notice that and be like okay let me see what
I can do for you today and that's how things kind
of like can't like it started kind of like coming together
to come to the end of something it took somebody else to
notice a difference in her child how annoying
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that is and the fact that that child's mother had access
to therapy but you're telling me Drake Bell
someone who's supposedly making thousands hundreds of
thousands of dollars is signed to a record your label
is signed to do many movies tv shows or
whatever you're telling me you did
not have access to therapy you didn't
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have access to having anyone talk to your child you didn't have anything to
better your life's child what were you focused on they don't talk about the
mom too much and the mom doesn't come on the show at all it's the dad makes
statements and he's physically on there but one thing i would love to see is
the mom's statement i would love to see what she has to say,
she's probably getting attacked she's probably getting attacked.
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Oh, yeah. No, I'm sure of it. But then and maybe and even if there there there
was any sort of remorse and repentance.
I mean, what's done is done. The damage has already been created.
And it's a case for a lot of it's a case for a lot of these a lot of these child
actors. I remember, remember the movie Cody Banks when he was like,
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he was a spy, like a teenage spy.
And he like was very, very like popular.
And he was also like, and Malcolm in the Middle and all of that stuff.
Right. And he was talking the other day. I forgot his, his, his real name.
And I'm sorry about that. But he was saying like, he has a kid now.
And he was like, I would never expose my kid to like child acting.
I was, I would never expose my kid to this, to that industry.
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And when you think about it, like so many actors and actors,
like so many artists have said the same exact thing.
Like the industry is vicious. It's dangerous.
It's very risky. It's a lot going on. And I wouldn't want to do that.
I wouldn't want to expose my kids to that kind of environment,
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to that level of toxicity. And we have me thinking about like some other artists,
like some other child actors who have come out of on the other side of it seemingly intact.
I'm wondering, like, what were the protective factors in place?
Like, you're not talking about like somebody like Zendaya, for example, right?
Who grew up in the Disney spotlight and who seems to have it together and who
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seems to be, like, I'm wondering, like, you know, like, so some of those like
child actors who have come around, like, and have, for the most part, like, seem all right.
What are some of those protective factors that they were able to kind of be
surrounded by to, like, allow them to maintain, like, the integrity of their
identity and the integrity of their well-being and their mental stability?
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And I don't think you come out of that without some proper care,
therapy, wraparound, just.
Goodness enveloping you. And I also don't think like it comes around without
like some really serious protection, you know what I'm saying?
And maybe some of those things are exactly what you're saying.
Maybe some of those parents like took no crap.
Maybe they were like, you know, absolutely not. My kid is going to work from
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this time to this time, is going to work these number of hours a day.
And, you know, and we're not going to be afraid to walk away if this is not
working out because at the end of the day, the sanity of my kid,
the wellbeing of my kid is like paramount.
And so you got to do what you got to do.
And I think sometimes what we tend to forget in the last piece I'm going to
say about this is like the industry needs these people as much as these people need the industry.
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Because if you think about like if everybody decided to walk away from the set
and walked away from a show and decided, you know what, screw it.
Yeah, they would have like quite a bit of people, but would they be as like as high of a caliber?
What would be the drawback? What would be the loss in millions?
Because sometimes even one episode that is like being replayed as opposed to
a brand new one being aired costs like thousands and thousands of dollars.
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So when you think about that loss and that hit to the, to the,
to the, to the platform that hit to the channel, it's a lot.
And it's a lot as a producer, it's a lot of the director as a showmaker to,
to, to, to shoulder because you have to answer to that.
You have to answer that to the, to the moguls of the, of the,
of the, of the television channel or whatever. And so I wonder,
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like, I think that part is sometimes forgotten, too.
Is it that, you know, maybe it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has
a possibility of changing your whole life, but it is a one-time,
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has a possibility of ruining your whole life.
So, yeah. Thank you for bringing this up.
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It's like a very, yeah, it's a different type of, like, it's all connected,
but it's like looking at it from that different perspective.
Like from the perpetrator to like the victims
of those actions and oftentimes you know
you'll have like victims who themselves become perpetrators like you know hurt
people hurt people and you know you're bred and indoctrinated you're indoctrinated
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and bred in that environment like sometimes it can be very difficult to pierce
out of it and not excusing behavior absolutely not But I'm just wondering,
like, how much of that, you know,
own, like, predatory behavior has been influenced by what they grew up in doing and learning.
You know what I'm saying? If, like, if how you learn to love someone or how
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you learn to interact with someone or how you learned to be,
like, I guess, sexually active with someone was through trauma,
then unless you have healing to go through that trauma and create something
better, that's what you have to learn.
That's your evidence, right? I'm going to treat other people this way because to me that was okay.
And then like not every trauma is as traumatic at that moment.
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And things happen. Like there's so many things in life that once you get older
and you have the words for it, that's when you're like, oh crap,
like this happened to me and I didn't have the words for it when I was younger.
And then you go through the healing. So, I mean, it's true.
People go through being a victim to being the perpetrator because there's something
that just was taught to them that was never unlearned.
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I like that you brought up Zendaya. I feel like Zendaya is a prime example because
you don't really see too many childhood stars become so prevalent in Hollywood
following their childhood stardom.
I do think education is really important I think the education of her parents had to have been.
Like there's some level of education that they have that I
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think many other people maybe not have and then
she has a white mother and a black father I feel like by
those two things pouring in I feel like some it's somewhere
in their common sense was formed however one thing I
realized about her interviews she's very hyper aware
of who she is she's like
I'm a mixed woman I know I
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i have color privilege i know there's certain things that i have and
her parents continue to educate her and teach her and
allow her to be hyper vigilant of what's
going on she points out things that make her.
Uncomfortable she starts she says certain statements that
you can now you as someone as an adult now watching these
interviews if you watch someone's day as interviews the way
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she answers these questions are just far
beyond her years to where she's answering it in a a professional way but
also reminding like the person asking the question don't ask me that
type of shit oh yeah no her emotional intelligence is crazy
i mean it's it's it's it's on point and that's what i was
saying like having this amount of
awareness just like just flowing through
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you yeah it comes with it has to come
with a certain like what like these very great
like levels of like protection and
i've seen like the way she even talks about like her dad for example
and how much of like a protector he is like I
wouldn't be surprised like he showed up in the scene and was like you
know made it known or her mom for that for that matter
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you know what I'm saying like or even having other people who were put maybe
a part of the industry brand in the industry understand some of those risks
like the energy like that piece that you're talking about the education about
what you're getting into and I think what makes also like the difference and
is like when you were talking about what you would allow and what you wouldn't
allow with your own child is that.
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You educate yourself. It's like your kid wants to take up swimming and be part
of like a competitive swimming team.
First of all, you're going to learn all that there is to learn about what competitive
swimming is, what it takes, what are the efforts that are required, what he would need to do.
You then have the conversation about what would be expected,
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the level of effort and commitment that would need.
And furthermore, you find a way to insert yourself in that community,
community whether that means like i'm gonna be the you
know the the the competitive swimming mom and that's
going to be showing up with like the sliced oranges and the and the sandwiches
and i'm going to be part of like all of the meetings that take place i'm gonna
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have that coach's number i'm gonna have all of that areas to know so that i
make sure that my kid and and you show up and that's the other thing it's like
showing up i feel someone said that like another parent i don't I don't know
if it was like a like a famous parent,
but someone was like like half of the job of being a parent is showing up.
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Right. And it makes all of the difference.
And again, going back to predatory behavior, predators look out for those things.
Who are the parents that are actually engaged in that kid in those kids lives and who aren't?
And I'm going to bet you money that they're not going to go hard after or after
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at all the ones where like the parents are always there. Active. Right.
That's exactly what was being said about Drake's dad.
Like Drake's dad was so good at being there that I mean, the predator was like,
we have to get like your like your your dad out of here to the point like he
was he completely manipulated and molded the situation. graduation 1000%. Got rid of the dad.
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He knew that they had a bad divorce.
They knew that they weren't speaking, the mom and the dad. So like, it was just a lot.
But you mentioned the moms for these teams. I have been the team mom three times.
It is not easy. And I don't want to do it again. I'm not going to even lie to you.
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I don't. There's meetings involved. There's trainings.
You have to to do all kinds of things you have to be very involved you have
to be very like informed like I'm
still very informed because my son is part of something that I need
to be informed however I ain't got time for all
these meetings but I do love the moms and the dads and the parents that insert
themselves in a way that makes their presence known and provides a safe environment
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for not only their child but the child the children they're like you know are
a part of it so I do appreciate that so shout out to the parents the real parents not the donors owners,
because some of these people got you messed up.
These real parents are really showing up for their children in whatever capacity
and allowing them to feel safe in their presence, to make them feel loved, to make them feel seen.
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Your impact matters so much.
And you've saved your kids more than you know, just by being there.
And there are a lot of your efforts as parents that go unnoticed.
A lot of the sacrifices that you make that sometimes even as a parent,
you don't realize is a sacrifice until you're up against, you know,
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some other, you know, conflicting situation or demand in your life.
And I just, again, like I commend, I commend parents that are just actively
involved. I remember growing up, I was in dance class and I would have,
and I also play the violin.
Like I was very much like active in like the arts and everything.
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And I remember seeing, and I was fine, right?
It was perfectly okay. But like, I remember seeing like the very involved and
engaged parents that they would be like, like helping in the back,
you know, when during recital time,
they would be like helping in the, in the back, like to like get all of the
hair like figured out. They would volunteer to be involved.
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They would be like, oh, yeah, I know this dance and that dance and all of that.
And for me, it wasn't my mother per se because of like how demanding like her work was.
But I did have a parent, like figure, like my aunt who would like.
Know all of my choreographies. She would know all of my scenes, like all of my sets.
She would know which uniform and this and that and would like,
you like, she was like so actively involved.
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And I remember like, I'm getting emotional. I don't know why,
but like it made all the difference.
Because it does make a difference because like at that age, if you're not the
one setting those boundaries, if you're not the one showing up and cheering
on your kid, if you're not the one just being there, like the backbone,
the support system and all of the things that they need.
And if you're not like that nurturer not
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space to do that too like i mean it just it makes
it impacts them negatively and it's
like it's a big deal and it also makes them more vulnerable to
the situation so shout out to parents but also shout
out to people who whether willingly or
unwillingly stepped into the roles of
like the role of parents and parented their
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siblings parented their nieces and
nephews parented the neighbor's child the
neighbor's kids like that anyone who's taken
on this parenting role just and showed up i just want to say like just thank
you yes like thank you for for being that person thank you i like that's a good
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way i got in my feelings that's fair thank you for having this conversation
with me i really i feel Like,
just as Kat Williams predicted how things are being revealed,
things are being revealed.
And it's really important to really just step into yourself sometimes and be like, am I okay?
Am I good? Am I good? Are you good? Are you good? We good.
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and you sip some tea with us.
And you were like, damn, in certain parts. And you really just saw yourself
in these positions and the decisions that you would make differently.
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Thanks. Welcome to another episode of the Melanin Movement Podcast with Tess
and Anne. This is your girl, Anne. Hey, Anne.
Hey. I got Tess on the other side of the mother-loving mic. Hi.
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How you doing? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's good to see you.
Good to see you too. You look great. I'm grateful. phone yeah it's the
lighting if you can if you can see the stress pimples
going on i was like let me just
put a little powder on just because though for something to
be on the internet forever and then the
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last video we took i looked so good on my side and
when we download the video from your side i looked
rough struggle no i look my skin looks dry i promise you i didn't notice so
I would have said something I would have been like and maybe you might want
to grease up a little bit a little something I don't know what it is but a little
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something you know a little something,
yeah that's right that's right that's right.
Oh my goodness so this uh 2024 has been really like running why are you running
why are you running why are you running because it's about to be april oh my
god i feel like we blend in,
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man i'm actually quite grateful that it's almost april because
i'm ready for a lot of things in my life to come to a close however come i
just feel like the like since the beginning of the the year since kat
williams went on to club shea shea he's been
pretty good okay before before
we go into all of that i just want to say like i don't know how much you believe
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in like astrology and like club like so people were talking a lot about the
age of aquarius and how the age of aquarius was going to be a lot about like
ai just running a muck like a muck and like all the spaces and infiltrating
all of that stuff, right?
But also a lot of truths being revealed and coming up to the surface and people
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getting caught up in their actions that they've gotten away with for years.
And when I tell you this first quarter has been lit already with like revelations
and Cat Williams, I feel like, you know, it's kind of like set the stage and
then like, I mean, you know, he walks so that all this other stuff could just like run and fly.
So anyway, I just wanted to like, how do you feel? Cause I keep thinking back to like Age of Aquarius.
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I'm like, oh my God, is that you? you know because you're
talking about the limelight wait let me
let me see you play so how do
you feel like do you like do you agree that you feel like that's probably like
what's happening too like it's like the it's just a season for the reason just
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a season for some for real for
real uh so i get oh would cat williams be considered a modern day prophet,
i mean i don't hate it i don't hate that thought at all i mean you you might
be onto something because he sure he said reveal all he's like ocean spread
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like and he's like everything's just like.
Yeah you were saying really quick
on the adhd like imagine there's a meme i would love for someone to create this
if someone's in production it's like there's a meme and it's like kat williams
looking like moses right with his robe with his staff and he's standing in front
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of the ocean and the ocean is splitting and on the other side of the ocean is hollywood,
that would be dope that would be that would be a dope meme oh my god,
that's a visual for real for real you're so creative I would love to see that
somebody make it happen make it oh that would be a good meme for the first like
when it says quarter one of 2024 cat.
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He said, if he not set, if he not set. He was not messing around, let me tell you.
So tell me about what's been going on. Girl. Because you know, you plugged in.
Well, you know, I try. For the few hours I have to myself a day,
there's been a lot of things just going on.
I know last we spoke, we were talking about like Kate Middleton.
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We talked about everything that's going on in the environment and things of that nature.
But for this episode, we have to dedicate more time.
I mean we gotta talk about old boy with truth social but his bullshit and then
i do want to talk about the diddy raid everything that's going on with him and
hopefully the illuminati don't cut me off because we need to talk about it right
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it seemed like he got kicked out the out the circle,
oh my god is that what it is i
mean i don't know because it did imagine someone's running yeah
imagine all the things that he's been alleged
right all the way back from the whole tupac biggie
situation how he set up like the pew pew with biggie and
tupac right so imagine since that era to 2024 the empire that he's built right
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and the reign so like and then the connection that he has that quote unquote
like has been giving him like like anyway he's attached to power that's been
giving him like you know attachments to certain things making all the monies and all all that stuff.
So I just feel like either something happened on that sector,
on that side where they're like, okay, we can't rein you in anymore.
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You've been like cut off or whatever.
The the wrong thing happened to the right person you feel me and they're like all right then.
Okay then so tell me about
this raid so what happened so diddy's how he has two houses well he has more
than that but his house in la and his house in miami both got raided by homeland
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security and one thing about homeland security that we've learned is that like
obviously they take too long to research things because you know when it comes
to things that matter like predatory things
they'll wait a whole decade to arrest people they'll know
certain things is happening and never like go on
with it however comma for your house to be raided to
that capacity to where like they pulled out his sons
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and had them arrested and they were sitting on the side of the lawn they arrested
members of his team for alleged things that were put out in the what was that
called what's something that that someone puts together to go up to the courts
the alleged items anyway the alleged items had a few of his people listed on
there for different things and the people that were listed on there were arrested
if they were in Diddy's home, right?
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Because there's like a suspected like drug mule that was in there,
his assistant, blah, blah, blah, got arrested, taken out, right?
And then they provided video from the raid, which is odd to me.
Because like, have they ever, did they, have they ever provided a video of a raid to that capacity?
Like when they put Jeff Epstein's home out, it was it put together.
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It wasn't it raided. Has it ever been read?
I don't know. I feel like the answer to that is a yes.
There have been situations like high profile situations where they have released
videos of like them like kind of trying to catch the person or like I remember.
I mean, that was a long time ago. But O.J. Simpson, when there was like a lot
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of that was televised, not just like his trial, but like anything,
like everything that led up to to to it. Yeah.
But I don't know how like how how often they've done it. And I don't I don't
think it's a common occurrence.
So I do find it curious that they did release that footage.
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Worth looking into. I wish I had more information on that.
Now that we're talking about it. But that is definitely like a keen observation.
That they would just like, you know, display it like that.
But for Trump's raid, when they thought that he had all for all those documents
he had in his home, on stage, in his house, they had showed the helicopter view
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of those agents pulling out those documents from the house, but not view of inside the house.
But I understand because he was a president that, of course,
that's a bigger safety issue, not that he's ever not exposed his life before.
However, I could see how they're a little bit more secretive with his raid because
of his ranking and the social hierarchy.
But like okay so Diddy and then,
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Diddy's thing has just been really really really wild and then the the raid
and showing each room and things like that showing his safe,
which I thought was wild like it's one thing they showed his safe they showed
his safe they showed what he had in his safe where his safe was his safe is in one of his closets.
And it's and then they opened it and they showed everything in his safe and,
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everything how why would someone do
that i just don't feel like that's okay like unless
you had like unless like there's paperwork in there or
there's something that is saying like drug trafficking you
know like something related to what they're doing and they're showing the
evidence i'm so sorry i'm laughing
because what you just said i just pictured opening
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the safe and it's like this single piece of paper
that is from there and it's just
his confession like i am a human
like or something like trafficker or i am imagine
just having safe or just like the safe is
like the word inside so it's
like that's my safe what's my safe oh my god
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another me another me yeah for
real but no like they showed like where his
safe was it's like they like it's like a zoom out and they
show his entire closet then you can see where his safe is located and
then there was another scene it was like just them showing like
the safe and everything that's in the safe so it's wild so these people now
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know where he lives what the insides of his house look like and what his what's
inside his so you can draw an entire blueprint of like of the two if you plan
on you know doing a heist or something man but they're probably
nothing of value there still right they probably still are i mean i don't know where is he.
Where do you be like where is
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he is he like where is he like because i know okay
so the last thing i i learned and i haven't seen i haven't gotten any follow-ups
from that is that they couldn't he wasn't at any of his homes oh he was at the
airport they had tracked his they had tracked his plane his plane was en route
to was it antigua antigua it was antigua and they don't have any the extradition laws there, right?
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But then was he in the plane? Like, is he still in the U.S.?
Yeah, he is. Okay, so he's not arrested?
So from from the 25th of March, when the raid happened, he was at Opelika Airport in South Florida.
When they said Opelika, that's down the street. Opelika.
It's a hop and a skip away. Hop and skip. Want to go see daddy.
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No, don't. Don't do it. Shit. If I can. No, no, I don't want no involvement.
No, no, no, no. No contest. contest no but
so okay so he so his daughters he has
twin daughters who are in school or school age right
and he was like oh yeah there's a raid coming
someone had to have tipped him off for him to be in the airport right well i
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mean whatever he was going on vacation to antigua with his two daughters right
and homeland security was like stop it stop where are you going,
why are you running why are you running i know
so they stopped him or whatever but his but the plane
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i don't know who i don't know if his daughters were on the plane or
if anybody else was on the plane because like the video that they showed on
the news was him speaking with homeland security and his daughter speaking to
security or yeah so but the thing is he stayed is what i know i don't know about
his family but the plane left the plane left opelika and still It was a distraction. To Antigua.
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It could be. It could be. It could be a divergent. He has a whole nother plane
somewhere else that's already been delivered. Delivered.
Delivered. Crazy. Dang. It's wild. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Anyway, the news is saying that he's like the black, you know, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah.
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Imagine. I mean, he had an incredible amount of power.
Another thing that I learned recently, like, thank you, TikTok,
was that a while ago, back in the night, like 1999 or something like that,
J-Lo had known some stuff because she was part of the inner circle.
And so he paid her off, like he paid her for her silence.
And so they had like an entire like court thing or whatever.
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And she's like, I ain't seen nothing. I know nothing. I heard nothing. Meanwhile.
And that was it. according to the woman that he pew-pewed
in the club in the 90s right so that's how this whole
j-lo thing is involved so in the 90s p diddy
was in the club you know doing his thing shoulder rocking or
whatever and that's when he was dating j-lo and in the
club or whatever whatever was going on there was
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a young lady by his section and he was getting
all rattled or whatever supposedly and allegedly j-lo was
the one who gave him the pew-pew and then when he bright.
Like supposedly allegedly and then
the woman who got poom poom in the face literally saw
diddy do it so as she was being pulled
out of my guys so allegedly he paid
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off like the club and the bouncers or whatever to
stay quiet and not say that he did it and when
they went to so when this woman got pulled out in the
hospital she's like diddy poom poom me diddy poom poom
me like and in you know you
can't say these words so i got you i got you so in
the hospital she's saying that whatever and then um in in
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in so it's recorded she's saying it right went to
court and she was like this man peeped me like pointed him
out whatever but what it was the one
of the confessions that diddy did with his one of
his producers was like i i get away with peeping people all
the time that club in that club that went to in the 90s
i'll peep you that girl i nothing period and then and
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then he had one of his friends go down for him a dude named shine
took took the rap for him and went to jail for him
for peeping someone so imagine so oh
somebody would imagine so now she's asked me to take a blame for something like
that and go to jail but imagine he probably he probably got him set up somewhere
you know i'm saying if you if you take the rap for me i'm gonna make sure your
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family's set for life yeah like you You're going to be straight.
You know what I'm saying? You might be in here, but your books going to be covered.
You're going to be living lavish in the jailhouse.
Mm-hmm you and the sheriff gonna be real acquainted.
Wild it's gonna just and then what happened i was like
it's juicy
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and i know i shouldn't be enjoying it so much but you
tell me i'm like tell me more i mean tell me
more i know the woman that got people and
wants to reopen the case so that so that diddy
is tried for it versus shine however the the
whole like double jeopardy thing i don't know if that would reopen
but i mean it's something that is in his case file that it's added to diddy's
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like list of allegations and as evidence so i'm not sure what's gonna go on
from there but there's a lot going on and one thing just to keep in mind like
homeland security don't go to your crib for no reason they it's not like a knock
knock knock oh we heard nah babes.
The amount of time it takes to build evidence and enough reason to kind of like obtain a warrant,
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right, that is worthy to for an investigation worthy of a warrant is pretty,
it's pretty rigorous. Like, it takes a lot.
Like, I remember back to the, like, the, like, drug-infested Miami days,
how long it took for them to build this case against this cocaine drug lord
back in, I remember, like, back in, it was, like, 1970s.
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Like, when, yeah, when the coke was, like, I forgot his name,
but, like, he had an entire, an entire, like, empire that was,
like, securely built. And it took years before they could bring him down.
And the documentary is actually, I think, still on Netflix.
And I was like, dang, it takes a long time. And they can't just go on a hunch.
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Like they need to have it. Because like if something happens,
imagine suing Homeland Security. Right. Right.
You know what i'm saying like it's a lot it's it's a
lot but anyway yeah and then i heard that suge
knight the guy that's like you know supposedly um you
know tupac apparently from the jailhouse told
him that yo you better watch
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out you're gonna get raided but how did he know that suge
knight is connected suge imagine that's wild
no he went the thing that's really ridiculous
listen to shik night had the audacity to go on an
interview like while he's in jail to say to stand up
for diddy out of all the people to stand up
for me please don't let it be shik night you know what
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i'm saying like you're not helping me bro like you're not like shut up anybody
asked you to do nothing shut up your mouth it's like it's like it's like the
sign is like no like cut it out and nobody but the thing that was really interesting
so i was watching jesse woo right.
Jesse woo shout out to
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jesse woo we love a haitian queen exactly thriving uh
she was giving the whole rundown she really went into depth i i kudos
to her she has a graduate degree i think she did i think
she has a background in law which is actually quite amazing she
speaks like four languages girl yes we love an educated
haitian queen anywho she went to a whole
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different a whole list of things that's going on and
i was just so blown away so suge knight dumbass
he he's been in him and diddy are
in cahoots obviously because like because what
was it was it it wasn't murder what is it what was suge knight's record label
was it murder no murder ink is charu what is it was something record that's
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where was his face yeah that's where tupac was yeah anyway yeah yeah so he was
of course his stuff he's a mean gel forever because all of his compounded evidence.
Forever and so because he's known
imagine the things that he's gone through and gone away with
over the years he has people on the inside and outside that's
telling him what's going on still of course so i mean
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if if i was him i
wouldn't be the one to call diddy to say something is
going on you know what i'm saying i would like i would
create code words or i would have somebody else that's completely
unrelated but oh you you don't know who i am cool great call this number call
this number but do you think that he would have like trusted that information
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from coming from somebody else imagine you get a call from the same jail cell
that like someone you worked with is it's coming from and they say something very specific.
I feel like you would have known. I feel like somebody with as much influence,
I feel like unless you have this incredible amount of just pure arrogance and
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narcissistic tendencies about you,
you should know that at some point your misdeeds will no longer go unpunished.
I feel like you should kind of prepare yourself for an inevitability of your
life just coming crashing down around you.
Unless, again, you feel like you're invincible, which maybe that's what the
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diamond triangle people, you know, all seeing eye, or maybe that's what they're about.
Out like maybe it's about you know the fact that they they create
so much of like cushioning around themselves like
they believe to the point like they are in fact invincible but i mean i was
like reading some other things where i i read that even like people like jay-z
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like they're coming for them too you know like so i don't know it's gonna be
interesting i feel like when with power people People do get that feeling of being like invincible.
I feel like people need to be reminded, though, like even if you are this amazing
person, mogul, whatever, there is less chances you'll be caught if you're a white guy.
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But if you're a black guy, there is just a higher chances you might just get caught up.
Your likelihood drastically increases.
That's true. That's something to be talked about. So that's continuing and we're
going to just see how that goes.
There's more to come. More to come. Last thing, last thing, last thing,
last thing, last thing, because this...
Tell me more. Oh, my God. The...
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The evidence that was submitted into the court for
this man for diddy's arrest wild supposedly allegedly
girl there was cameras inside the
bedrooms in his mansion where he was having these parties
right and supposedly allegedly and this was on i found this on tiktok by the
way so that like you know how he was having like these fun parties right free
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parties yeah and people were able to you know do their thing or whatever and
supposedly the videos if they're doing with something compromising.
So if the person that's in there is married and they're doing something with
someone else, if they're doing things that either gay or different or whatever it is,
that Diddy would now have that evidence and that evidence would be leveraged
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against them when it came to what music was coming out, what videos were coming
out, what money was going to projects and things like that.
Supposedly, he was really blackmailing people to make sure that he stayed on
that billboard list, right?
With his company and who he's involved with, his name wouldn't be necessarily
directly on that list of billboard.
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But if you go into billboard and you see how many times Bill,
not billboard, Universal, Universal is listed on billboard, you'll see that
they occupy one third of the billboard charts, right?
And then the person, the owner of Universal is someone who's listed on Diddy's
allegations of who was, you know, supplying him with certain things,
control, money, power, or whatever, was through this owner of Universal.
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And Diddy is part of Universal. So if Universal makes money,
Diddy makes money. And Diddy has supposedly these alleged videos.
So that's also something that's listed on his documentation.
Oh my God. Crazy. The wass is getting wass up. Wass up, wass up.
No, no, no, please do it, do it. Tell me.
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Tell us. I hope the listeners is listening because we out here, right?
So on the allegations. You came prepared and I'm loving it.
I'm loving it so much. On the allegations, the producer that actually put these
allegations together, he was asked by Diddy to record everything.
You know, now we're in the, this is the shit that gets you fucked up.
This age of Aquarius, all this digital shit.
Did it was like record everything i we're gonna
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do a documentary record everything so imagine and then imagine you're recording
everything and someone is doing illegal shit in front of you and it's all recorded
so the things that this producer was recording and you know wherever they were
with diddy they have hundreds of hours of evidence.
Because the producer still has the footage
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that is i hold
so i think do you think it's going
to be like a demonstration of loyalty as well like who
who keeps it who still has his back and
versus who doesn't or do you think like in that like regardless
if you know you are part of this thing that they're gonna find your you're gonna
they're gonna find your footage or evidence or whatever your record regardless
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anything because imagine this has been going on since last year publicly last
year so like imagine the only person since last year when all this thing became
public the only person to stand up for P.
Diddy was Suge Knight but P. Diddy is involved with many many many people and
nobody nobody has gone on social media has made a public statement has done anything to say nah P.
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Diddy's he's a he's a stand-up guy that's all I'm saying.
That's what i'm saying you're just gonna leave it right there you're
just gonna like let that thought marinate but anyway
if you have any more information any like little tidbits that you want to like
you know drop them in the chat or drop them in the comment section as we release
this you know like like you know send us direct message like we're plugged in
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you want to know Yeah, because I will watch it. Mm hmm.
Mm hmm. This is going to be a huge,
you know, because these people do see themselves as like God like, right?
This is going to be like a public crucifixion type vibe. And I feel like Diddy is going to.
Because this is going to be a publicized case.
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I think he's going to put himself as that person. Like I'm being made an example of I'm being crucified.
And so I just see that as the next thing.
I just rolled my eyes so heavily right now. It's like, of course,
you're going to be the lamb for sacrificial whatever.
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It doesn't make... I mean, it's not true, but I understand what you're saying
because it's like, oh my God, woe is me type thing.
It's very annoying. Because I think...
In the midst of all of this, what really is messing me up is,
like, especially for millennials, and you'll know what I'm talking about,
I feel like so much of our childhood is being, like, ruined and deconstructed.
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Because like there are those are people we looked up to those are people
with like whose music we survived to like these
are people like that we in the public like gave opportunities
to other folks you know like help other musicians and
other artists like get like come into the spotlight and and get discovered and
all of that stuff like some of the connections and the like you know what I
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mean it just it's such a deeply woven part of our like upbringing and seeing all of that just
being like all of the, you know, wolf and sheep's clothing type of thing,
like all of that coming to light.
I mean, first of all, like it's very interesting to see just like the lengths
to which somebody would go to
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just do things that are just absolutely atrocious, but more so like how,
what are, what are the lengths that you're going to go
through to show this facade and this mask
of innocence or benevolence that you
actually don't even give two craps about and how
much how much you just fool people into
thinking like here here's who you are and then it's
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just fake as fake as hell and I just it really
bothers me because I no
longer feel right vibing to like some of some songs and some music or some things
you know that we just grew up you know just really listening to and I don't
know it's just a lot it's it's really a lot because because music Music certainly
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helped me with English, with English language.
And I would write down those lyrics very feverishly, you know,
and like learn them and read them and listen to them.
And it's just so sad. It's really sad.
So if you're grieving your childhood.
You're grieving your some of your upbringing because of the type of because
of what's happening with these artists you know just just know like
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we're i'm right there with you because it's a tough one i do feel like recently
we have been grieving our childhood everything is being exposed i feel like
specifically for diddy i felt like he was someone to pay attention to way before
i felt like something that showed his true colors with when he was doing making the
band remember he had like a group danny cane and how
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he was like yes i love you
love danny and the way he treated them and the things that
they had to do it didn't make sense and then when
everything like fell apart like they didn't get paid like the
producers of what's going on didn't get paid a lot of
this stuff is coming up because he just wasn't paying people you know i'm
saying he wants to do all this ridiculousness and then not pay
you is wild but like i from watching
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that show i was like this is diddy is just
not that guy like it gave me like
crazy boss vibes from even when i was younger
and i feel like now as things are coming out nobody was
surprised when cassie had her whole case come out when cassie's allegations
come out cassie seemed like she was someone that was kept on a short leash every
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time we saw her whatever so like when her allegations came out nobody was surprised
nobody said no diddy is not that guy whatever nobody.
Stood up for him so like all these things happening it's not surprising for
me you get what i'm saying yeah yeah speaking of ruining our childhood that
was a perfect segue uh-huh yeah keep digging keep digging what's up.
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Not only is the millennials future on a whack but our past was shit too you
know life is good like future says.
What do you got so have you seen quiet on set,
Oh, my God. No, I have seen snippets. I have heard about it.
I have seen videos about it. I hate the way there's spoilers.
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Like, have you, have you, have you, have you seen it? I've seen it.
I watched the fourth episode yesterday, but there's supposedly a fifth episode coming out too.
Tell me, tell me. Okay. So I feel like maybe tell me like the most shocking part about it.
I think for me, the most shocking piece about it
were like all of the subliminal like gestures and like
hand gestures and like comments and statement like or
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like some like some of the the script pieces that
were written like seeing i don't know i think there's something about
i'll speak to victorious as an exact a quick example like
the in like the the feigned innocence
right portrayed of ariana ariana grande and
the comment that she would just say in like the most innocent voice like
looking at some of the ways that she would like kind of carry her bodies
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and some of the comments she would make about like licking things or
like you know eating certain things and then just like
now i felt weird you know
it was like cringe at the moment like where i was
watching it but i couldn't i couldn't pick i couldn't.
Figure out why it was cringe worthy to me.
But then it's like having that i don't
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know just like the the this information kind of
validating that you're like that's why that
shit was weird to me and like it makes so much sense
now but anyway what was like the most like aw like
strucking thing for you i feel
like i don't want to give away too many spoilers but i feel like
this documentary made complete sense the
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whole thing with ariana grande made complete sense i just felt
there was something about her i just couldn't watch it like i didn't watch sam and
kat i went and she was on victorious i love
listening to her sing but hate when she spoke i'm like
that's not her real voice like why are they making her talk like that
and she was like you know like moving her shoulders up and down
like you said i always thought that was odd and i was like this is something
about this is just weird and then something that
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they pointed out that i thought as well when i was watching
it when i watched was it zoe 101
with um jamie and then spears the way
that these young girls was just out and bathing like not
that bathing suits is is not okay because you're a young girl you
can wear whatever you want is just the way that they were always
like exposed and like laying down they
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were always like in bikinis laying down like always
doing things I'm just like I just don't understand why there's so many scenes
like this you know what I'm saying anyway that's like when I was watching it
before they even showed the clip of Zoe I'm like I wonder if they're gonna do
Zoe and they did I was like oh good it wasn't just me thinking it so when a
few things were being pointed out I was like okay Okay, that makes sense.
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The things that really drove me crazy was just talking about Drake Bell.
Drake Bell's experience.
Tell me, tell me, okay, tell me, tell me your thoughts about it because I'm really curious.
Because people, I even saw like, I think as earlier as,
as today we're like look like investigate more like keenan keenan went into
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his like investigate and i don't i'm not making any judgment i'm not making
any more like i'm not passing any moral judgment i just really want to hear
because first of all first and foremost,
believe victims always and i'm i'm going to die on that hill but i really am
curious as to like what you got from his experience.
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It broke my heart. It broke my heart because, and I 1000% blame his mother.
And I know like, I feel like a lot of stories that happened in the nineties,
a lot of these parents needs should have been like the whole thing with R.
Kelly, the parents should have been like more hands on.
The thing with Nickelodeon, these parents, because I know me,
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there's no way in hell you're going to tell me I can't be in this room with my son.
What's gonna happen what's what's what's the
next step tell me what you're gonna fire me cool because you're
not gonna be in this room with my son while he's changing you're not
gonna be rubbing on my son's shoulders you're not gonna be helping
him get dressed you're not gonna be talking to him late at night
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you're not gonna be picking him up and dropping him off and picking him multiple
times he's not gonna be staying at your house like you
know what i'm saying like there's just certain things i just what so
okay for example i'll do a quick thing but i won't go too deep for people who
haven't watched it drake bell's father was the
one that was like putting his hand up like no that's inappropriate no that's
inappropriate he went and he said something what's his name brian beck
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is it brian beck is his name the one that molested drake
bell he's the one that you know you know
his dad was like no this man is being
inappropriate with my son and then the people that worked like on set was like
well you know he's gay and maybe you're just being a little homophobic and I
was like this grown 40 year old man helping my son put on his pants is me being homophobic.
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And then that's why he was like, no, after that, I started speaking up more.
No, you cannot help my son. And he started being, you know, like very active.
And then this guy got into, you know, Drake's head. Your dad is too much.
Create a rift between him and his dad. Then he exiled his dad and his mom was
helping him instead as a manager.
His mom was living her life and was allowing this molester to be the person
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that's taking Drake everywhere, whatever, whatever.
And later on, like he, he experienced these, these terrible things for years.
It wasn't, he wasn't just like, oh, one incident happened, people caught on
and then it was reported.
He, this, I think it's two years. I think it was two plus years that he was going through things.
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And it's, the dad told the mom, you can do whatever you want.
You don't want me to handle know this drake is saying he don't mean to
be part of this cool but this one
person do everything in your mind to
not let this person be around drake and the one person he said don't do it she's
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like handed drake to him the guy's like oh yeah i i can take him to these things
he can stay at my house i can do all these things for him no problem and the
mom was like all right are you serious I was livid.
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Single parent, obviously, and nor do I need to know. But I'm thinking about
like what makes a child vulnerable in a family unit.
And parents, a lot of times, are like, you know, like they're supposed to be
the primary line of defense, right?
You're supposed to be the protector to that child's experience.
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And I'm wondering like how much of, again, going back to like the way that our
society is structured, how much is rooted in survival? And...
The need to feel like that, not the need to feel, but like the feeling that
you need to accept certain situations because you want so much a better life
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or better, better circumstances,
more opportunity for your child, for your children or what have you.
And I mean, I don't know, again, that parental instinct.
I can't speak to that. I feel as though there has to be something Like as a
parent where you kind of notice like something is off with your kid, you know, like the say.
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For example, something happened and you couldn't prevent that first thing from happening.
I feel as though you you've got to notice a shift.
I feel like there's got to be a point in time where you're like, my kid is different.
My kid is behaving differently, is talking to me differently, maybe more closed off.
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But then it has to be like you've had to you have to have established some sort of like a trusting,
you know, healthy relationship with your child first and be an observant parent
and be an involved and engaged parent first before you get to the point of like
noticing when those shifts are happening.
So how much of that disengagement happened from before that created these pockets
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of vulnerability where these grown people could then leverage to abuse,
molest, take advantage,
you know, use and usurp like those kids' innocence in their bodies and everything
else. You know what I'm saying?
And as a part of that, it's like, are you yourself like starstruck or impressed
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with like the level of just fame and popularity and money that's coming into
the bank where you don't have to worry anymore,
where you are willing yourself to ignore those very signs and not messes up people?
You know what I'm saying? Like, oh my God, my heart still breaks to this day
for Amanda Bynes and like all of the, I mean, I don't know, like from time to
time she'll like pop up on my FYP and.
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And I see, like, the things that she's doing. And I feel like there's a lot
of that effort to just kind of, like, be normal.
Like, she's just trying to get her, you know, her nail tech license right now
and going to take the exam, for example, you know. And it's like, okay.
She failed it. She failed it. And she's trying. And she's trying.
Yeah. She said she's going to keep trying.
She's going to keep and keep trying, you know. She's stuck somewhere.
Like, those lives absolutely ruined. So I'm wondering like how much of those
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like, again, yeah, parent accountability, 100% definitely.
I'm wondering like how much of that is like, oh, you're willing to overlook
certain things because you want so badly for you not to starve or for you not
to have what you need or for you not to give your kids what they need or whatever the case is.
Or sometimes at their own insistence as children, like I want to do this.
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I want to become an actor.
I want to be famous. I want to be popular, whatever the case is, right?
And you're not going to stop me. And then the parent is like,
okay, well, then this is what we're going to do.
There has to be some form of reasoning somewhere though. I feel like you should
support your children in the things that they want to aspire to do.
I support that 1,000%. Reasonably. Reasonably.
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However, it's important to keep, like, again, like
if something happens to your child even even if
there's someone else that's doing it you are going to be blamed for
it you are supposed to protect your kids like
the thing is with with drake's mom is that
i felt like the decisions that she made to allow this man to be around drake
was in spite of her of the dad like they had a really crazy divorce and for
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someone specifically to say i
have no problems with you taking over everything i just ask that you keep
Our son, away from this one person, I don't care if I hate my son's father.
I can't stand his breathing type vibe.
But if you tell me that that's something that you saw, bet.
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You feel me? You ought to trust. I mean, you trusted that person at some point in time, right?
And again, it's not about you. It's about your child.
And it's coming from a place. It's like you can be you can have all the beef
that you want with your significant other, with your spouse or whatever.
But like or but if they if they are an excellent parent and they have demonstrated
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time and time again how much of like a good parent they are and they tell you
something or give you some sort of warning, like heed it.
You know what I mean? Like heed that warning and do and do that.
Do that one thing because it's so selfish to me and it makes me,
it fuels me with rage that out of spite for your ex-spouse, you're going to
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risk your child's life, well-being.
Sanity, innocence, all of that stuff.
You know, to me, it's just like it enrages me. And I don't know. It's just it's awful.
It is awful and this show really made me
like it just makes you think because there's so many things that are
out there like where is this child star now and imagine
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the things that these child stars have to go through I have
to make sure I get out of child stardom into full
stardom and not f up anywhere not end
up an addict not do this and not do that there's so
much pressure from early on and like
for you to think that your child won't experience some type
of mental break you have to consider your
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child's well-being in between all of that right you want
to do this movie cool we're gonna do this movie and we're gonna take a two-month break
you want and i understand that's hard i get it because
i i mean i'm not in that type of life i don't
know how that works however i know how
my brain works and if i'm going and going
and going and going and going and going and going and not
stopping for any point in time for to
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take my break i'm going to lose my mind and in fact
it's proven that these people have lost their minds
like they've lost themselves they they've they've had
they've struggled with addiction they said they've struggled with finding themselves
their identities they've struggled with integrating into just regular civilian
life like there's so many things that just aren't being handled but i also understand
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true is a different time like us in 2024 if my son was in this i would make
sure that he was in therapy whatever.
Because of access and conversation and communication but back then I can understand
how like something like that may not be as discussed but my my rebuttal to that
is Drake Bell is a white man.
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He's a white man. Both of his parents are white. You know what I'm saying?
You're making enough money to have access to things to the point that people
around you are doing those things.
The thing that got Drake Bell help was that his girlfriend's mom noticed something
off about him. Not his mama.
His girlfriend's mom noticed that there's something off about him.
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Something off about the guy that was blowing up his phone.
Something off about his, like, I don't want to go home. You know what I'm saying?
Someone else had to notice that and be like okay let me see what
I can do for you today and that's how things kind
of like can't like it started kind of like coming together
to come to the end of something it took somebody else to
notice a difference in her child how annoying
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that is and the fact that that child's mother had access
to therapy but you're telling me Drake Bell
someone who's supposedly making thousands hundreds of
thousands of dollars is signed to a record your label
is signed to do many movies tv shows or
whatever you're telling me you did
not have access to therapy you didn't
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have access to having anyone talk to your child you didn't have anything to
better your life's child what were you focused on they don't talk about the
mom too much and the mom doesn't come on the show at all it's the dad makes
statements and he's physically on there but one thing i would love to see is
the mom's statement i would love to see what she has to say,
she's probably getting attacked she's probably getting attacked.
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Oh, yeah. No, I'm sure of it. But then and maybe and even if there there there
was any sort of remorse and repentance.
I mean, what's done is done. The damage has already been created.
And it's a case for a lot of it's a case for a lot of these a lot of these child
actors. I remember, remember the movie Cody Banks when he was like,
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he was a spy, like a teenage spy.
And he like was very, very like popular.
And he was also like, and Malcolm in the Middle and all of that stuff.
Right. And he was talking the other day. I forgot his, his, his real name.
And I'm sorry about that. But he was saying like, he has a kid now.
And he was like, I would never expose my kid to like child acting.
I was, I would never expose my kid to this, to that industry.
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And when you think about it, like so many actors and actors,
like so many artists have said the same exact thing.
Like the industry is vicious. It's dangerous.
It's very risky. It's a lot going on. And I wouldn't want to do that.
I wouldn't want to expose my kids to that kind of environment,
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to that level of toxicity. And we have me thinking about like some other artists,
like some other child actors who have come out of on the other side of it seemingly intact.
I'm wondering, like, what were the protective factors in place?
Like, you're not talking about like somebody like Zendaya, for example, right?
Who grew up in the Disney spotlight and who seems to have it together and who
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seems to be, like, I'm wondering, like, you know, like, so some of those like
child actors who have come around, like, and have, for the most part, like, seem all right.
What are some of those protective factors that they were able to kind of be
surrounded by to, like, allow them to maintain, like, the integrity of their
identity and the integrity of their well-being and their mental stability?
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And I don't think you come out of that without some proper care,
therapy, wraparound, just.
Goodness enveloping you. And I also don't think like it comes around without
like some really serious protection, you know what I'm saying?
And maybe some of those things are exactly what you're saying.
Maybe some of those parents like took no crap.
Maybe they were like, you know, absolutely not. My kid is going to work from
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this time to this time, is going to work these number of hours a day.
And, you know, and we're not going to be afraid to walk away if this is not
working out because at the end of the day, the sanity of my kid,
the wellbeing of my kid is like paramount.
And so you got to do what you got to do.
And I think sometimes what we tend to forget in the last piece I'm going to
say about this is like the industry needs these people as much as these people need the industry.
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Because if you think about like if everybody decided to walk away from the set
and walked away from a show and decided, you know what, screw it.
Yeah, they would have like quite a bit of people, but would they be as like as high of a caliber?
What would be the drawback? What would be the loss in millions?
Because sometimes even one episode that is like being replayed as opposed to
a brand new one being aired costs like thousands and thousands of dollars.
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So when you think about that loss and that hit to the, to the,
to the, to the platform that hit to the channel, it's a lot.
And it's a lot as a producer, it's a lot of the director as a showmaker to,
to, to, to shoulder because you have to answer to that.
You have to answer that to the, to the moguls of the, of the,
of the, of the television channel or whatever. And so I wonder,
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like, I think that part is sometimes forgotten, too.
Is it that, you know, maybe it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has
a possibility of changing your whole life, but it is a one-time,
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has a possibility of ruining your whole life.
So, yeah. Thank you for bringing this up.
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It's like a very, yeah, it's a different type of, like, it's all connected,
but it's like looking at it from that different perspective.
Like from the perpetrator to like the victims
of those actions and oftentimes you know
you'll have like victims who themselves become perpetrators like you know hurt
people hurt people and you know you're bred and indoctrinated you're indoctrinated
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and bred in that environment like sometimes it can be very difficult to pierce
out of it and not excusing behavior absolutely not But I'm just wondering,
like, how much of that, you know,
own, like, predatory behavior has been influenced by what they grew up in doing and learning.
You know what I'm saying? If, like, if how you learn to love someone or how
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you learn to interact with someone or how you learned to be,
like, I guess, sexually active with someone was through trauma,
then unless you have healing to go through that trauma and create something
better, that's what you have to learn.
That's your evidence, right? I'm going to treat other people this way because to me that was okay.
And then like not every trauma is as traumatic at that moment.
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And things happen. Like there's so many things in life that once you get older
and you have the words for it, that's when you're like, oh crap,
like this happened to me and I didn't have the words for it when I was younger.
And then you go through the healing. So, I mean, it's true.
People go through being a victim to being the perpetrator because there's something
that just was taught to them that was never unlearned.
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I like that you brought up Zendaya. I feel like Zendaya is a prime example because
you don't really see too many childhood stars become so prevalent in Hollywood
following their childhood stardom.
I do think education is really important I think the education of her parents had to have been.
Like there's some level of education that they have that I
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think many other people maybe not have and then
she has a white mother and a black father I feel like by
those two things pouring in I feel like some it's somewhere
in their common sense was formed however one thing I
realized about her interviews she's very hyper aware
of who she is she's like
I'm a mixed woman I know I
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i have color privilege i know there's certain things that i have and
her parents continue to educate her and teach her and
allow her to be hyper vigilant of what's
going on she points out things that make her.
Uncomfortable she starts she says certain statements that
you can now you as someone as an adult now watching these
interviews if you watch someone's day as interviews the way
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she answers these questions are just far
beyond her years to where she's answering it in a a professional way but
also reminding like the person asking the question don't ask me that
type of shit oh yeah no her emotional intelligence is crazy
i mean it's it's it's it's on point and that's what i was
saying like having this amount of
awareness just like just flowing through
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you yeah it comes with it has to come
with a certain like what like these very great
like levels of like protection and
i've seen like the way she even talks about like her dad for example
and how much of like a protector he is like I
wouldn't be surprised like he showed up in the scene and was like you
know made it known or her mom for that for that matter
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you know what I'm saying like or even having other people who were put maybe
a part of the industry brand in the industry understand some of those risks
like the energy like that piece that you're talking about the education about
what you're getting into and I think what makes also like the difference and
is like when you were talking about what you would allow and what you wouldn't
allow with your own child is that.
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You educate yourself. It's like your kid wants to take up swimming and be part
of like a competitive swimming team.
First of all, you're going to learn all that there is to learn about what competitive
swimming is, what it takes, what are the efforts that are required, what he would need to do.
You then have the conversation about what would be expected,
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the level of effort and commitment that would need.
And furthermore, you find a way to insert yourself in that community,
community whether that means like i'm gonna be the you
know the the the competitive swimming mom and that's
going to be showing up with like the sliced oranges and the and the sandwiches
and i'm going to be part of like all of the meetings that take place i'm gonna
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have that coach's number i'm gonna have all of that areas to know so that i
make sure that my kid and and you show up and that's the other thing it's like
showing up i feel someone said that like another parent i don't I don't know
if it was like a like a famous parent,
but someone was like like half of the job of being a parent is showing up.
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Right. And it makes all of the difference.
And again, going back to predatory behavior, predators look out for those things.
Who are the parents that are actually engaged in that kid in those kids lives and who aren't?
And I'm going to bet you money that they're not going to go hard after or after
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at all the ones where like the parents are always there. Active. Right.
That's exactly what was being said about Drake's dad.
Like Drake's dad was so good at being there that I mean, the predator was like,
we have to get like your like your your dad out of here to the point like he
was he completely manipulated and molded the situation. graduation 1000%. Got rid of the dad.
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He knew that they had a bad divorce.
They knew that they weren't speaking, the mom and the dad. So like, it was just a lot.
But you mentioned the moms for these teams. I have been the team mom three times.
It is not easy. And I don't want to do it again. I'm not going to even lie to you.
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I don't. There's meetings involved. There's trainings.
You have to to do all kinds of things you have to be very involved you have
to be very like informed like I'm
still very informed because my son is part of something that I need
to be informed however I ain't got time for all
these meetings but I do love the moms and the dads and the parents that insert
themselves in a way that makes their presence known and provides a safe environment
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for not only their child but the child the children they're like you know are
a part of it so I do appreciate that so shout out to the parents the real parents not the donors owners,
because some of these people got you messed up.
These real parents are really showing up for their children in whatever capacity
and allowing them to feel safe in their presence, to make them feel loved, to make them feel seen.
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Your impact matters so much.
And you've saved your kids more than you know, just by being there.
And there are a lot of your efforts as parents that go unnoticed.
A lot of the sacrifices that you make that sometimes even as a parent,
you don't realize is a sacrifice until you're up against, you know,
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some other, you know, conflicting situation or demand in your life.
And I just, again, like I commend, I commend parents that are just actively
involved. I remember growing up, I was in dance class and I would have,
and I also play the violin.
Like I was very much like active in like the arts and everything.
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And I remember seeing, and I was fine, right?
It was perfectly okay. But like, I remember seeing like the very involved and
engaged parents that they would be like, like helping in the back,
you know, when during recital time,
they would be like helping in the, in the back, like to like get all of the
hair like figured out. They would volunteer to be involved.
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They would be like, oh, yeah, I know this dance and that dance and all of that.
And for me, it wasn't my mother per se because of like how demanding like her work was.
But I did have a parent, like figure, like my aunt who would like.
Know all of my choreographies. She would know all of my scenes, like all of my sets.
She would know which uniform and this and that and would like,
you like, she was like so actively involved.
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And I remember like, I'm getting emotional. I don't know why,
but like it made all the difference.
Because it does make a difference because like at that age, if you're not the
one setting those boundaries, if you're not the one showing up and cheering
on your kid, if you're not the one just being there, like the backbone,
the support system and all of the things that they need.
And if you're not like that nurturer not
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space to do that too like i mean it just it makes
it impacts them negatively and it's
like it's a big deal and it also makes them more vulnerable to
the situation so shout out to parents but also shout
out to people who whether willingly or
unwillingly stepped into the roles of
like the role of parents and parented their
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siblings parented their nieces and
nephews parented the neighbor's child the
neighbor's kids like that anyone who's taken
on this parenting role just and showed up i just want to say like just thank
you yes like thank you for for being that person thank you i like that's a good
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way i got in my feelings that's fair thank you for having this conversation
with me i really i feel Like,
just as Kat Williams predicted how things are being revealed,
things are being revealed.
And it's really important to really just step into yourself sometimes and be like, am I okay?
Am I good? Am I good? Are you good? Are you good? We good.
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and you sip some tea with us.
And you were like, damn, in certain parts. And you really just saw yourself
in these positions and the decisions that you would make differently.
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mean and and and everything else that ann just said so yeah so again this has
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