July 1, 2025 • 18 mins
In this episode, Meredith's husband previews an upcoming mini-course on how to get your website into AI search results, following new guidance from Google and SEMrush. He also shares surprising 2025 AI adoption statistics, including global usage trends, industry applications, and AI's educational impact.
Timestamps
[0:24] Pre-announcement: AI Mini-Course for Website Owners
[0:56] Google’s First Guidance on AI Search Results
[1:46] Updated AI Usage Statistics for 2025
[3:36] Global AI Adoption Surpasses Mobile
[4:34] Emerging Economies Outpacing Advanced Ones in AI Usage
[6:23] Generational Gaps in AI Expertise
[7:23] AI Use Cases: Teachers, Smart Homes, and Learning
[9:36] AI in Medicine and Robot-Assisted Surgeries
[11:21] Business Adoption of AI and ROI Challenges
[12:47] AI Risks: Jailbreaking, Energy Use, and Hallucination Rates
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Meredith's husband (00:00):
First I got to make a little announcement or
a pre-announcement.
Okay, you remember that I don'tknow how many episodes.
You know how many weeks ago Idid a little poll.
Meredith (00:09):
Yes, yes, yes, I remember.
Which of these courses wouldyou be interested in the people
we're most interested in, rightyeah.
Meredith's husband (00:15):
So it turns out that there's more interest
in the AI course than the otherones how to use AI for your site
, how to get into AI searchresults, et cetera.
So that course is going to.
It's a mini course.
It's not that big.
It's like five or six sections.
That's going to be ready nextweek.
Oh nice, thank you, and so nextweek I'll do a little summary
(00:40):
next week's episode a littlesummary of what's in there, and
there's really the first ever, Ithink sort of guidance from
Google about kind of what youneed to do to get your site into
.
Meredith (00:49):
AI results.
Oh really.
Meredith's husband (00:51):
Yeah, and some other tools.
Some other, I would say,trustworthy tools like SEMrush
have come out with what is nowbecoming credible guidance.
Meredith (01:00):
Oh, wow.
Meredith's husband (01:01):
Yeah, Up until now, like as I kind of
talked about all the guidance onhow to get your site into AI
search results, it's kind oflike people throw their hands up
and they're like do you thinkthat's because Google hadn't yet
established their own?
Meredith (01:15):
Yeah, yes, partially.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Meredith's husband (01:18):
But this week there was something in my
inbox.
Meredith (01:22):
Yes.
Meredith's husband (01:22):
That I thought was fascinating.
It was updated stats for AI,stats for 2025.
Meredith (01:29):
What does that mean?
Meredith's husband (01:30):
Like information, like statistics on
who's using AI and what are theyusing it for, and et cetera, et
cetera.
Meredith (01:37):
When we use ChatGPT, is that all recorded Like in our
and put in a little vault withour name on it?
Meredith's husband (01:47):
Yeah, probably.
Meredith (01:48):
Can that evidence be used against us?
Meredith's husband (01:50):
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Meredith (01:55):
Just curious.
Probably, I would think so.
Meredith's husband (01:58):
Just like your search history can be like
if somebody, if the government,is investigating a crime.
Yeah, yeah, probably Just likeyour search history could be.
I forget what they call itunlocked.
Meredith (02:11):
Yeah, okay, good to know.
Meredith's husband (02:14):
Because in this space things are changing
so fast.
Meredith (02:17):
So fast.
Meredith's husband (02:17):
So stats that came out literally like six
months ago well, that's kind ofold news, and they're different
now.
So this is the what I think isthe most current information
that's came out just literally acouple of weeks ago.
Well, that's kind of old news,and they're different now.
So this is the what I think isthe most current information.
This came out just literally acouple of weeks ago, Wow, and
I'm going to summarize some.
I'm going to some of the statsI thought were really
interesting.
I'm going to share those, butit's summarized by saying AI is
on track To destroy humanity.
(02:39):
No Good To change industry on ascale we haven't seen since the
Industrial Revolution.
Meredith (02:46):
Oh gosh For the better .
Meredith's husband (02:48):
That doesn't say for good or bad, it's just
for industry.
So yes, industry is going to bedoing things probably faster
and cheaper, perhaps better.
So that's not to me all thatsurprising.
That's kind of a blanketstatement.
So that's not to me all thatsurprising, that's kind of a
blanket statement.
What I did think wasinteresting is it goes into
talking about how many peopleare using AI worldwide, because
it wasn't that long ago thatonly 10% of people were actually
(03:12):
using it.
So worldwide 66% of people useAI intentionally.
So that means going to chat GPTand using it, not using a tool
that uses AI in the backgroundand not being aware.
Meredith (03:27):
So 66%, that's a big jump.
Two thirds yeah.
Meredith's husband (03:31):
So the adoption of it.
One of the next stats is theadoption of using AI is faster
than the adoption of mobilephones.
Meredith (03:39):
I was just going to say.
How would that compare to theinvention of the television or
the telephone or the radio?
Meredith's husband (03:48):
Yeah, that makes sense, because I've heard
many times that that sort ofthing it just keeps getting
faster and faster, like it tookI don't know how many years for
a million people to use a lightbulb.
And then how long did it takefor a million people to use the
radio, the newspaper, the TV,the internet, social media,
mobile, and so every iterationit gets faster and faster.
Meredith (04:10):
So it's again yeah, fax, remember faxes.
Meredith's husband (04:12):
Yeah.
Fax machines, yeah.
Again.
It's not really that surprisingthat it's happening.
It's happening quickly.
What is interesting, I think,is it says 80% of people in
emerging economies use AIintentionally, compared to only
58% in advanced economies.
So what that means is like itseems like it could potentially
(04:36):
even the playing field a bit,you know, if people in economies
that are still growing haveaccess to the same things.
And they're adapting to itfaster that's going to be a
problem.
I'm surprised by that.
Actually, like people inadvanced, like this country, the
US, we're using it slower thaneverybody else.
In fact, this was aninteresting comparison.
(04:59):
To put it into context, it saidthat only 31% of adults in the
UA consume the UK.
Meredith (05:08):
Oh UK.
Meredith's husband (05:09):
The UK consume the recommended five
portions of fruits and veggiesper day.
So then it makes the conclusionI don't know if this I totally
agree with this, but it saysthat means that we are twice as
likely to engage with AI than weare to eat a balanced diet.
Meredith (05:27):
Well, it's easier.
Meredith's husband (05:30):
I don't think that's necessarily true,
given that information, but it'san interesting way to look at
it.
Meredith (05:35):
I think it's well, because, for some, eating
vegetables and fruits is a chorerather than something that they
get very excited about Right,and AI is helping instantly.
Meredith's husband (05:50):
Yeah, I get it.
I also wonder about people'sdiet in the UK.
Meredith (05:54):
I think that's pretty spot on yeah.
Meredith's husband (05:57):
Okay.
Meredith (05:58):
They don't?
Meredith's husband (05:59):
So one of the next ones, who is using AI
the most?
And it's talking about StudentsGenerational, oh yeah, good
guess I'll get to that in asecond.
Okay, but first level, evenbroader, it says millennials are
the most active users.
Yeah, kind of no surprise.
Yeah 62% of millennials reportwhat they call a high level of
(06:20):
AI expertise.
Yes, so those people they saythat they are very confident
using AI.
Meredith (06:26):
And they can also recognize it really quickly.
Meredith's husband (06:28):
Yes, Quicker than many of us.
Meredith (06:31):
All of us.
Meredith's husband (06:32):
Compare that 62% to 33% of older adults.
So, like you and I, wouldprobably be in that 33%.
So they're twice as likelythere's twice as likely to be
using AI, right, okay, so thenext section that I thought was
interesting is what are peopleusing AI for?
So what are they doing with it?
There's a few interestingpoints here.
Number one says 50% of teachersare using AI for lesson
(06:58):
planning and research.
Meredith (06:59):
Oh, I thought you were going to say to distinguish if
the papers have been written byAI.
Meredith's husband (07:05):
Probably doing that too, I'm sure.
Next point, we'll come back tothat one in just a second, next
point 42 to 55% of US householdsown at least one AI-powered
smart home device.
Oh, so like.
Alexa thermostats stuff, lightbulbs, shades, stuff like that.
Meredith (07:27):
That are controlled by AI.
Meredith's husband (07:29):
Not controlled by AI, but AI-powered
smart tools.
Like we have some smart tools.
We have some smart things.
Meredith (07:36):
Do we have any?
Meredith's husband (07:36):
AI-powered.
They're not AI-powered.
Meredith (07:38):
Oh, okay.
Meredith's husband (07:39):
What this seems to suggest to me is just
moving forward.
They're all going to be usingAI on some level.
Our home devices are just.
They're a couple years old atleast, so it wasn't an option?
Meredith (07:50):
You mean, is it kind of like the?
Was it called Silicon Valley,the TV show?
Meredith's husband (07:55):
Yeah.
Meredith (07:56):
With the refrigerator.
Meredith's husband (07:58):
Yes, that was a smart refrigerator.
Meredith (07:59):
Right, and I guess they'll say like you'll now know
when you need celery.
Meredith's husband (08:04):
Yeah Something like that.
Meredith (08:06):
What we'll do is we'll put it already into a cart and
ship it to you?
Meredith's husband (08:12):
Yeah, like the Nest thermostats, use AI.
They do they're the ones that,like, supposedly learn your
rhythm and they adjust your heatbased on the way you do it.
So over time, you don't have toworry about setting anything.
It will just do itautomatically based on you and
your habits.
We don't have that one.
Meredith (08:33):
No, this all freaks me out.
Why does it freak me out?
Meredith's husband (08:37):
Are we just going to sit?
It's new.
Meredith (08:39):
Are we going to sit in a pod and just have everything
happen around us?
Meredith's husband (08:44):
Well, that opens a whole new.
Meredith (08:46):
I know.
Meredith's husband (08:46):
That I would love to talk about.
I know me too.
Meredith (08:48):
It's like the telepathy tapes, a podcast I
highly recommend.
Meredith's husband (08:52):
Okay.
Next, 84% of people use ofthose who use AI.
Okay, 84% of them use AI toexplore and understand new
concepts and ideas.
So, researching, hobbies,upskilling, planning, things
like that learning essentially,that's nice, that's encouraging.
I think that's fantastic.
Meredith (09:12):
That's encouraging.
Meredith's husband (09:13):
That's really what I think.
That's what we should be doingwith it.
Yeah, it also mentions 20% ofsurgeries performed at the NHS
hospitals in the UK.
I don't know what those are.
20% are carried out usingrobot-assisted, ai-powered
devices.
And then it says that'sexpected to rise sharply.
(09:34):
Yeah, I'm surprised by that.
I would think that's going tobe more like 100% pretty soon.
Meredith (09:40):
That AIs are going to do surgeries.
Yeah, AI-assisted.
Meredith's husband (09:41):
pretty soon that AIs are going to do
surgeries yeah, ai-assisted, sothere's probably going to be a
surgeon, but he is going to beusing some AI or she is going to
be using AI tools to help themdo things.
I don't know what.
I don't know that much aboutsurgery, but that's not
surprising.
I would think that would be.
I would hope that would startto make surgeries easier more
(10:03):
affordable, affordable.
Meredith (10:04):
How about?
Meredith's husband (10:04):
that More effective.
Meredith (10:05):
Unlike now, can AI be hacked.
Meredith's husband (10:10):
There is a jailbreaking issue with AI.
And it's not being hacked.
So it means you would take,like you take, the chat GPT bot,
let's say, and use it fornefarious purposes.
Meredith (10:23):
Okay.
Meredith's husband (10:23):
Yes, that is an issue that's not hacking
chat GPT.
That's what they calljailbreaking, taking it, so
these chat bots have rules.
Meredith (10:33):
Yeah.
Meredith's husband (10:34):
Like chat GPT and the other chat bots,
they have rules built in Right,so that you can't use it to like
, hey, let's turn off the energygrid in China.
Like you can't do that, andmany other things.
Hopefully, when you jailbreakit, you take it out of that jail
so you can use it for whatever.
(10:54):
That's an issue.
Meredith (10:56):
Moving on.
Meredith's husband (10:57):
Next it talks a little bit about how
companies are using AI.
I don't know.
Does this seem as interestingto you?
Meredith (11:05):
Well, it depends on what the answer is.
Meredith's husband (11:07):
So it said no surprise, 100% of industries
are embracing AI, including onesyou wouldn't think of, like
mining and agriculture.
So basically, every industry istrying to use AI.
So, basically, every industryis trying to use AI.
It goes on to say 92% ofindividual companies plan to
increase their investments in AIin the next three years.
(11:28):
But then this is kind ofinteresting to me it says only
25% of companies are seeing anROI from AI.
What's that?
Return on investment?
Yeah, so basically allcompanies are planning to
increase their spending, butonly 25% of them are actually
making money as a result of it.
Meredith (11:47):
So that seems interesting.
Meredith's husband (11:49):
And it says 74% of companies face what they
call critical barriers toscaling their AI solutions.
I don't even know what thatmeans, but it sounds to me like
three quarters of companiesthere's some obstacle that they
can't get around in scaling uptheir use of AI.
So interesting.
(12:11):
I don't know that seems likethat section has a big old
question mark on it.
Okay, Now the section that youprobably will not like.
There is a section about AIrisks and challenges.
Meredith (12:23):
Okay, does it talk about animals?
Meredith's husband (12:25):
It does not talk about animals.
No, it says, first, that morethan 70% of AI platforms are
vulnerable to what I called thejailbreak attack.
Meredith (12:36):
Aha, yes, okay.
Meredith's husband (12:37):
So, yes, that's the big concern.
Yeah, so, yes, that's the bigconcern.
That's the big.
You know.
Somebody's going to use AI totake over the world type of
worry that people have.
Meredith (12:49):
Yeah, you know, there are kind people.
Meredith's husband (12:52):
Yeah, there is also the problem that AI uses
a lot of power.
It uses a lot of power.
Meredith (12:59):
Currently.
Meredith's husband (13:00):
And it will get more and more and more.
Meredith (13:02):
It's not like computers, no, where we used to
have.
Meredith's husband (13:05):
No, it's the opposite, Because the reason AI
is possible is because we havewe have never before had this
much computing power as much aswe have now.
Correct, we could have like ahundred computers working on a
problem for us somewhere in thecloud.
That's what AI is doing.
It has like hundreds orthousands or tens of thousands
(13:25):
of computer chips, of computersworking on these little, and
that's why AI is possible.
The more people use AI, themore widespread it becomes, the
more power we're going to need.
Oh great use AI the morewidespread it becomes, the more
power we're going to need.
Oh great, that's why people aretalking about nuclear as being
nuclear energy production.
Meredith (13:41):
Are you serious?
Yes, oh gosh.
Meredith's husband (13:44):
That's a good thing.
To be honest, nuclear powergeneration is much better for
the environment.
Meredith (13:49):
My dad's a chemical engineer.
He designed power plants, okay.
Meredith's husband (13:52):
It's a whole lot cleaner than coal
generation.
Meredith (13:54):
Great, absolutely yes, great, fantastic.
It's way, way, way cleaner.
That's a not bad thing, yeah.
Meredith's husband (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, more power.
Yeah, it's going to need morepower.
Meredith (14:05):
More power, more problems.
Meredith's husband (14:06):
It also says there is a 33% hallucination
rate.
So a hallucination in AI islike when it gives you, it's
basically just making stuff up.
Meredith (14:16):
Are you serious?
Yes, like a placebo.
Meredith's husband (14:19):
No, not like a, it's like giving.
It's telling you very falsestuff and telling you it's true.
Meredith (14:24):
Oh, that's not good.
Meredith's husband (14:25):
No, that's not good at all, and this seemed
like it was getting better,like this was a big problem when
chat GPT and these earlychatbots started rolling out.
There was a higherhallucination rate.
Meredith (14:37):
I like how they call it hallucination.
Rather than fault mistakes, badinformation Lies.
Yeah, it's hallucinating.
Meredith's husband (14:47):
So it seemed like that was getting better.
But in the most recent versionof chat GPT 4.0, the
hallucination rate was doublewhat the previous one was.
So they can still be wrong.
Meredith (15:03):
So when my chat GPT says you're fabulous.
Meredith's husband (15:07):
Of course, it's not wrong about that.
There was actually a BBC studythat found 51% of AI generated
news summaries contained whatthey call significant issues,
including 19% with completelyinaccurate information.
And that's in the news story.
Meredith (15:26):
Oh boy.
Meredith's husband (15:28):
I think what the problem is there is that
chatbots cannot go out into theworld and see what's happening.
Meredith (15:34):
They can't differentiate between a social
media post and the news story.
Meredith's husband (15:38):
Well, it can't differentiate between, say
, an article on the New YorkTimes and an article on Fox, and
those, as we know, can say verydifferent things.
So that seems to me that'swhere that issue is coming from,
not necessarily that ChatGPT isresponsible for the incorrect
information.
Correct, it's just gatheringthat information from sources
(16:00):
that are incorrect.
So my thoughts in going overthis, what did you think was
most interesting?
Meredith (16:07):
Well, I appreciate that the other more quote the
word developing countries.
Meredith's husband (16:13):
Yes, developing economies.
Maybe that could helpunbalanced superpowers.
Meredith (16:18):
Yeah, absolutely which would be very encouraging.
Meredith's husband (16:21):
Absolutely yes.
Yes, I also really like thefact that people are they're
using it to learn.
Meredith (16:27):
I like that too 84%, like that's a-.
I don't want to know what theywant to learn, but I'm glad that
they are using it to learn.
Meredith's husband (16:33):
Yes, exactly that's great.
The situation where theteachers are using it to plan
lessons and the students areusing it.
That's very interesting to me.
I can't really wrap my headaround what that means.
Meredith (16:44):
It's like two sides of a conversation or like using AI
that no one's having yeah, noone's actually engaging with,
but people are learning.
Meredith's husband (16:50):
AI, in my own experience, vastly expedites
the learning process.
Meredith (16:57):
But what about retention?
Meredith's husband (16:59):
But one of the changes is that the AI in
general is just presentinginformation in a much more
conversational format, true,which I think is a lot more
memorable than, say, looking ata list of 10 different websites
on Google and trying to piecethat information together.
Yes, I think we can rememberconversations a lot better.
(17:20):
So I think those things.
I think that part of AI isgoing in the right direction and
the fact that students areusing it like that makes me feel
Of course students are using it.
And if they're confident usingit like it, means that the new
jobs that will emerge around AIthat they will be ready for that
, yeah, whereas I will not be.
Okay, I hope you found thishelpful.
Meredith (17:42):
You will be.
Meredith's husband (17:42):
Interesting.
Check back next week if youwant to hear more about how you
can get your website into AIresults and use AI to do that.
First I got to make a little announcement or
a pre-announcement.
Okay, you remember that I don'tknow how many episodes.
You know how many weeks ago Idid a little poll.
Meredith (00:09):
Yes, yes, yes, I remember.
Which of these courses wouldyou be interested in the people
we're most interested in, rightyeah.
Meredith's husband (00:15):
So it turns out that there's more interest
in the AI course than the otherones how to use AI for your site
, how to get into AI searchresults, et cetera.
So that course is going to.
It's a mini course.
It's not that big.
It's like five or six sections.
That's going to be ready nextweek.
Oh nice, thank you, and so nextweek I'll do a little summary
(00:40):
next week's episode a littlesummary of what's in there, and
there's really the first ever, Ithink sort of guidance from
Google about kind of what youneed to do to get your site into
.
Meredith (00:49):
AI results.
Oh really.
Meredith's husband (00:51):
Yeah, and some other tools.
Some other, I would say,trustworthy tools like SEMrush
have come out with what is nowbecoming credible guidance.
Meredith (01:00):
Oh, wow.
Meredith's husband (01:01):
Yeah, Up until now, like as I kind of
talked about all the guidance onhow to get your site into AI
search results, it's kind oflike people throw their hands up
and they're like do you thinkthat's because Google hadn't yet
established their own?
Meredith (01:15):
Yeah, yes, partially.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Meredith's husband (01:18):
But this week there was something in my
inbox.
Meredith (01:22):
Yes.
Meredith's husband (01:22):
That I thought was fascinating.
It was updated stats for AI,stats for 2025.
Meredith (01:29):
What does that mean?
Meredith's husband (01:30):
Like information, like statistics on
who's using AI and what are theyusing it for, and et cetera, et
cetera.
Meredith (01:37):
When we use ChatGPT, is that all recorded Like in our
and put in a little vault withour name on it?
Meredith's husband (01:47):
Yeah, probably.
Meredith (01:48):
Can that evidence be used against us?
Meredith's husband (01:50):
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Meredith (01:55):
Just curious.
Probably, I would think so.
Meredith's husband (01:58):
Just like your search history can be like
if somebody, if the government,is investigating a crime.
Yeah, yeah, probably Just likeyour search history could be.
I forget what they call itunlocked.
Meredith (02:11):
Yeah, okay, good to know.
Meredith's husband (02:14):
Because in this space things are changing
so fast.
Meredith (02:17):
So fast.
Meredith's husband (02:17):
So stats that came out literally like six
months ago well, that's kind ofold news, and they're different
now.
So this is the what I think isthe most current information
that's came out just literally acouple of weeks ago.
Well, that's kind of old news,and they're different now.
So this is the what I think isthe most current information.
This came out just literally acouple of weeks ago, Wow, and
I'm going to summarize some.
I'm going to some of the statsI thought were really
interesting.
I'm going to share those, butit's summarized by saying AI is
on track To destroy humanity.
(02:39):
No Good To change industry on ascale we haven't seen since the
Industrial Revolution.
Meredith (02:46):
Oh gosh For the better .
Meredith's husband (02:48):
That doesn't say for good or bad, it's just
for industry.
So yes, industry is going to bedoing things probably faster
and cheaper, perhaps better.
So that's not to me all thatsurprising.
That's kind of a blanketstatement.
So that's not to me all thatsurprising, that's kind of a
blanket statement.
What I did think wasinteresting is it goes into
talking about how many peopleare using AI worldwide, because
it wasn't that long ago thatonly 10% of people were actually
(03:12):
using it.
So worldwide 66% of people useAI intentionally.
So that means going to chat GPTand using it, not using a tool
that uses AI in the backgroundand not being aware.
Meredith (03:27):
So 66%, that's a big jump.
Two thirds yeah.
Meredith's husband (03:31):
So the adoption of it.
One of the next stats is theadoption of using AI is faster
than the adoption of mobilephones.
Meredith (03:39):
I was just going to say.
How would that compare to theinvention of the television or
the telephone or the radio?
Meredith's husband (03:48):
Yeah, that makes sense, because I've heard
many times that that sort ofthing it just keeps getting
faster and faster, like it tookI don't know how many years for
a million people to use a lightbulb.
And then how long did it takefor a million people to use the
radio, the newspaper, the TV,the internet, social media,
mobile, and so every iterationit gets faster and faster.
Meredith (04:10):
So it's again yeah, fax, remember faxes.
Meredith's husband (04:12):
Yeah.
Fax machines, yeah.
Again.
It's not really that surprisingthat it's happening.
It's happening quickly.
What is interesting, I think,is it says 80% of people in
emerging economies use AIintentionally, compared to only
58% in advanced economies.
So what that means is like itseems like it could potentially
(04:36):
even the playing field a bit,you know, if people in economies
that are still growing haveaccess to the same things.
And they're adapting to itfaster that's going to be a
problem.
I'm surprised by that.
Actually, like people inadvanced, like this country, the
US, we're using it slower thaneverybody else.
In fact, this was aninteresting comparison.
(04:59):
To put it into context, it saidthat only 31% of adults in the
UA consume the UK.
Meredith (05:08):
Oh UK.
Meredith's husband (05:09):
The UK consume the recommended five
portions of fruits and veggiesper day.
So then it makes the conclusionI don't know if this I totally
agree with this, but it saysthat means that we are twice as
likely to engage with AI than weare to eat a balanced diet.
Meredith (05:27):
Well, it's easier.
Meredith's husband (05:30):
I don't think that's necessarily true,
given that information, but it'san interesting way to look at
it.
Meredith (05:35):
I think it's well, because, for some, eating
vegetables and fruits is a chorerather than something that they
get very excited about Right,and AI is helping instantly.
Meredith's husband (05:50):
Yeah, I get it.
I also wonder about people'sdiet in the UK.
Meredith (05:54):
I think that's pretty spot on yeah.
Meredith's husband (05:57):
Okay.
Meredith (05:58):
They don't?
Meredith's husband (05:59):
So one of the next ones, who is using AI
the most?
And it's talking about StudentsGenerational, oh yeah, good
guess I'll get to that in asecond.
Okay, but first level, evenbroader, it says millennials are
the most active users.
Yeah, kind of no surprise.
Yeah 62% of millennials reportwhat they call a high level of
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AI expertise.
Yes, so those people they saythat they are very confident
using AI.
Meredith (06:26):
And they can also recognize it really quickly.
Meredith's husband (06:28):
Yes, Quicker than many of us.
Meredith (06:31):
All of us.
Meredith's husband (06:32):
Compare that 62% to 33% of older adults.
So, like you and I, wouldprobably be in that 33%.
So they're twice as likelythere's twice as likely to be
using AI, right, okay, so thenext section that I thought was
interesting is what are peopleusing AI for?
So what are they doing with it?
There's a few interestingpoints here.
Number one says 50% of teachersare using AI for lesson
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planning and research.
Meredith (06:59):
Oh, I thought you were going to say to distinguish if
the papers have been written byAI.
Meredith's husband (07:05):
Probably doing that too, I'm sure.
Next point, we'll come back tothat one in just a second, next
point 42 to 55% of US householdsown at least one AI-powered
smart home device.
Oh, so like.
Alexa thermostats stuff, lightbulbs, shades, stuff like that.
Meredith (07:27):
That are controlled by AI.
Meredith's husband (07:29):
Not controlled by AI, but AI-powered
smart tools.
Like we have some smart tools.
We have some smart things.
Meredith (07:36):
Do we have any?
Meredith's husband (07:36):
AI-powered.
They're not AI-powered.
Meredith (07:38):
Oh, okay.
Meredith's husband (07:39):
What this seems to suggest to me is just
moving forward.
They're all going to be usingAI on some level.
Our home devices are just.
They're a couple years old atleast, so it wasn't an option?
Meredith (07:50):
You mean, is it kind of like the?
Was it called Silicon Valley,the TV show?
Meredith's husband (07:55):
Yeah.
Meredith (07:56):
With the refrigerator.
Meredith's husband (07:58):
Yes, that was a smart refrigerator.
Meredith (07:59):
Right, and I guess they'll say like you'll now know
when you need celery.
Meredith's husband (08:04):
Yeah Something like that.
Meredith (08:06):
What we'll do is we'll put it already into a cart and
ship it to you?
Meredith's husband (08:12):
Yeah, like the Nest thermostats, use AI.
They do they're the ones that,like, supposedly learn your
rhythm and they adjust your heatbased on the way you do it.
So over time, you don't have toworry about setting anything.
It will just do itautomatically based on you and
your habits.
We don't have that one.
Meredith (08:33):
No, this all freaks me out.
Why does it freak me out?
Meredith's husband (08:37):
Are we just going to sit?
It's new.
Meredith (08:39):
Are we going to sit in a pod and just have everything
happen around us?
Meredith's husband (08:44):
Well, that opens a whole new.
Meredith (08:46):
I know.
Meredith's husband (08:46):
That I would love to talk about.
I know me too.
Meredith (08:48):
It's like the telepathy tapes, a podcast I
highly recommend.
Meredith's husband (08:52):
Okay.
Next, 84% of people use ofthose who use AI.
Okay, 84% of them use AI toexplore and understand new
concepts and ideas.
So, researching, hobbies,upskilling, planning, things
like that learning essentially,that's nice, that's encouraging.
I think that's fantastic.
Meredith (09:12):
That's encouraging.
Meredith's husband (09:13):
That's really what I think.
That's what we should be doingwith it.
Yeah, it also mentions 20% ofsurgeries performed at the NHS
hospitals in the UK.
I don't know what those are.
20% are carried out usingrobot-assisted, ai-powered
devices.
And then it says that'sexpected to rise sharply.
(09:34):
Yeah, I'm surprised by that.
I would think that's going tobe more like 100% pretty soon.
Meredith (09:40):
That AIs are going to do surgeries.
Yeah, AI-assisted.
Meredith's husband (09:41):
pretty soon that AIs are going to do
surgeries yeah, ai-assisted, sothere's probably going to be a
surgeon, but he is going to beusing some AI or she is going to
be using AI tools to help themdo things.
I don't know what.
I don't know that much aboutsurgery, but that's not
surprising.
I would think that would be.
I would hope that would startto make surgeries easier more
(10:03):
affordable, affordable.
Meredith (10:04):
How about?
Meredith's husband (10:04):
that More effective.
Meredith (10:05):
Unlike now, can AI be hacked.
Meredith's husband (10:10):
There is a jailbreaking issue with AI.
And it's not being hacked.
So it means you would take,like you take, the chat GPT bot,
let's say, and use it fornefarious purposes.
Meredith (10:23):
Okay.
Meredith's husband (10:23):
Yes, that is an issue that's not hacking
chat GPT.
That's what they calljailbreaking, taking it, so
these chat bots have rules.
Meredith (10:33):
Yeah.
Meredith's husband (10:34):
Like chat GPT and the other chat bots,
they have rules built in Right,so that you can't use it to like
, hey, let's turn off the energygrid in China.
Like you can't do that, andmany other things.
Hopefully, when you jailbreakit, you take it out of that jail
so you can use it for whatever.
(10:54):
That's an issue.
Meredith (10:56):
Moving on.
Meredith's husband (10:57):
Next it talks a little bit about how
companies are using AI.
I don't know.
Does this seem as interestingto you?
Meredith (11:05):
Well, it depends on what the answer is.
Meredith's husband (11:07):
So it said no surprise, 100% of industries
are embracing AI, including onesyou wouldn't think of, like
mining and agriculture.
So basically, every industry istrying to use AI.
So, basically, every industryis trying to use AI.
It goes on to say 92% ofindividual companies plan to
increase their investments in AIin the next three years.
(11:28):
But then this is kind ofinteresting to me it says only
25% of companies are seeing anROI from AI.
What's that?
Return on investment?
Yeah, so basically allcompanies are planning to
increase their spending, butonly 25% of them are actually
making money as a result of it.
Meredith (11:47):
So that seems interesting.
Meredith's husband (11:49):
And it says 74% of companies face what they
call critical barriers toscaling their AI solutions.
I don't even know what thatmeans, but it sounds to me like
three quarters of companiesthere's some obstacle that they
can't get around in scaling uptheir use of AI.
So interesting.
(12:11):
I don't know that seems likethat section has a big old
question mark on it.
Okay, Now the section that youprobably will not like.
There is a section about AIrisks and challenges.
Meredith (12:23):
Okay, does it talk about animals?
Meredith's husband (12:25):
It does not talk about animals.
No, it says, first, that morethan 70% of AI platforms are
vulnerable to what I called thejailbreak attack.
Meredith (12:36):
Aha, yes, okay.
Meredith's husband (12:37):
So, yes, that's the big concern.
Yeah, so, yes, that's the bigconcern.
That's the big.
You know.
Somebody's going to use AI totake over the world type of
worry that people have.
Meredith (12:49):
Yeah, you know, there are kind people.
Meredith's husband (12:52):
Yeah, there is also the problem that AI uses
a lot of power.
It uses a lot of power.
Meredith (12:59):
Currently.
Meredith's husband (13:00):
And it will get more and more and more.
Meredith (13:02):
It's not like computers, no, where we used to
have.
Meredith's husband (13:05):
No, it's the opposite, Because the reason AI
is possible is because we havewe have never before had this
much computing power as much aswe have now.
Correct, we could have like ahundred computers working on a
problem for us somewhere in thecloud.
That's what AI is doing.
It has like hundreds orthousands or tens of thousands
(13:25):
of computer chips, of computersworking on these little, and
that's why AI is possible.
The more people use AI, themore widespread it becomes, the
more power we're going to need.
Oh great use AI the morewidespread it becomes, the more
power we're going to need.
Oh great, that's why people aretalking about nuclear as being
nuclear energy production.
Meredith (13:41):
Are you serious?
Yes, oh gosh.
Meredith's husband (13:44):
That's a good thing.
To be honest, nuclear powergeneration is much better for
the environment.
Meredith (13:49):
My dad's a chemical engineer.
He designed power plants, okay.
Meredith's husband (13:52):
It's a whole lot cleaner than coal
generation.
Meredith (13:54):
Great, absolutely yes, great, fantastic.
It's way, way, way cleaner.
That's a not bad thing, yeah.
Meredith's husband (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, more power.
Yeah, it's going to need morepower.
Meredith (14:05):
More power, more problems.
Meredith's husband (14:06):
It also says there is a 33% hallucination
rate.
So a hallucination in AI islike when it gives you, it's
basically just making stuff up.
Meredith (14:16):
Are you serious?
Yes, like a placebo.
Meredith's husband (14:19):
No, not like a, it's like giving.
It's telling you very falsestuff and telling you it's true.
Meredith (14:24):
Oh, that's not good.
Meredith's husband (14:25):
No, that's not good at all, and this seemed
like it was getting better,like this was a big problem when
chat GPT and these earlychatbots started rolling out.
There was a higherhallucination rate.
Meredith (14:37):
I like how they call it hallucination.
Rather than fault mistakes, badinformation Lies.
Yeah, it's hallucinating.
Meredith's husband (14:47):
So it seemed like that was getting better.
But in the most recent versionof chat GPT 4.0, the
hallucination rate was doublewhat the previous one was.
So they can still be wrong.
Meredith (15:03):
So when my chat GPT says you're fabulous.
Meredith's husband (15:07):
Of course, it's not wrong about that.
There was actually a BBC studythat found 51% of AI generated
news summaries contained whatthey call significant issues,
including 19% with completelyinaccurate information.
And that's in the news story.
Meredith (15:26):
Oh boy.
Meredith's husband (15:28):
I think what the problem is there is that
chatbots cannot go out into theworld and see what's happening.
Meredith (15:34):
They can't differentiate between a social
media post and the news story.
Meredith's husband (15:38):
Well, it can't differentiate between, say
, an article on the New YorkTimes and an article on Fox, and
those, as we know, can say verydifferent things.
So that seems to me that'swhere that issue is coming from,
not necessarily that ChatGPT isresponsible for the incorrect
information.
Correct, it's just gatheringthat information from sources
(16:00):
that are incorrect.
So my thoughts in going overthis, what did you think was
most interesting?
Meredith (16:07):
Well, I appreciate that the other more quote the
word developing countries.
Meredith's husband (16:13):
Yes, developing economies.
Maybe that could helpunbalanced superpowers.
Meredith (16:18):
Yeah, absolutely which would be very encouraging.
Meredith's husband (16:21):
Absolutely yes.
Yes, I also really like thefact that people are they're
using it to learn.
Meredith (16:27):
I like that too 84%, like that's a-.
I don't want to know what theywant to learn, but I'm glad that
they are using it to learn.
Meredith's husband (16:33):
Yes, exactly that's great.
The situation where theteachers are using it to plan
lessons and the students areusing it.
That's very interesting to me.
I can't really wrap my headaround what that means.
Meredith (16:44):
It's like two sides of a conversation or like using AI
that no one's having yeah, noone's actually engaging with,
but people are learning.
Meredith's husband (16:50):
AI, in my own experience, vastly expedites
the learning process.
Meredith (16:57):
But what about retention?
Meredith's husband (16:59):
But one of the changes is that the AI in
general is just presentinginformation in a much more
conversational format, true,which I think is a lot more
memorable than, say, looking ata list of 10 different websites
on Google and trying to piecethat information together.
Yes, I think we can rememberconversations a lot better.
(17:20):
So I think those things.
I think that part of AI isgoing in the right direction and
the fact that students areusing it like that makes me feel
Of course students are using it.
And if they're confident usingit like it, means that the new
jobs that will emerge around AIthat they will be ready for that
, yeah, whereas I will not be.
Okay, I hope you found thishelpful.
Meredith (17:42):
You will be.
Meredith's husband (17:42):
Interesting.
Check back next week if youwant to hear more about how you
can get your website into AIresults and use AI to do that.
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