July 12, 2023 • 45 mins
From navigating the complexities of managing teams at work to empathizing with family at home, the journey comes full circle for us. What if our parents, who were icons of leadership, were just as caught up in their work-life balance as we are now? It's a provocative thought that we chew on in this episode. We move from the corporate world to a more personal space, discussing how our surroundings influence our decisions. What would you choose - a quiet corner at a bar or a seat near the entrance? Our heightened awareness, a product of the times, leads to interesting adaptations in our daily lives.
We also take a stroll down memory lane, reliving those high school days where textbooks filled our backpacks, and jank ass book covers were a thing! Can you recall your favorite school lunch meal? Was it tacos, pizza, or classic burgers and fries? We have a hearty laugh about it, and even delve into the infamous lunch bill system, where your social status was often determined by whether you were a free lunch kid or not. High school was a curious mix of social circles, and we reflect on where life has taken those we haven't heard from in years.
But it's not all serious discussions and nostalgic trips. There are moments of light-hearted banter too. Like that one time our niece took a photo of Mav at a parade, or the sheer joy of discovering traditional, homemade jerky. And of course, the struggles of managing our dog's health are all part of our everyday lives. Tune in for an episode filled with laughter, insights, and those shared experiences which make us all human. Lastly, don't forget to connect with us on Instagram and TikTok - we love hearing your thoughts and suggestions. So, did you America today?
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, 95% of the time , my hair is always in a messy
bun.
obviously I'm a basic whitegirl who likes her pumpkin spice
lattes in the fall and her hairwith her leggings and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I have an uncontrollable addiction of
firearms.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Welcome back to another episode of Messy Buns
and Shotguns.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Episode 32, let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Screaming in my ear We are back.
We were out of town last week.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Went back to the 4th of July.
We were out in a wonderfulGod's country of a great state
of West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We spent the 4th of July there, so we had a really
nice day, left my motorcyclethere.
You did.
Well, we took the motorcyclebecause, well, you took the
motorcycle and I drove the truckbecause you wanted to put it in
the parade.
I did.
And then the weather was beingreal sketchy and we weren't
really sure how we Did you hearthat eagle screaming in the
(01:13):
distance?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, sure did When I opened that PBR.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I didn't know, you grabbed a PBR.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sure did Cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then we didn't.
It was supposed to storm thewhole way back, so we decided to
leave the bike there and thenwe'd go get it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And it didn't storm at all.
And it didn't storm at all.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Which is fine, it's okay.
You were really tired that dayanyways.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't think our thing's recording.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's recording, is it ?
I'm looking at it There's likeno lines.
There is, it's just really.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I promise you it's recording.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, but we're going to talk for an hour and it's
not going to catch anything.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You want me to verify ?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, we're fine.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And test it real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, you get one shot at this, and then I'm watching
Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
And then, if there's time left,i'm going to play Crime Boss,
rock A City, and then I'm goingto bed.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean I can like pause it real quick and Ah, fuck
it, Let it ride.
Shoot from the hip.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If you say it's recording, it's recording.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is, It's recording .
You get one shot at this.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Scooby.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right.
Well, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So the thing that I want to delete off with today is
I have made an observationabout myself, and this is
assimilating from work life tohome life, and I have trouble
assimilating and making theswitch, like flipping the switch
(02:32):
of coming from work tempo tohome tempo, because I noticed
this in my dad when I was a kid.
So dad would come home fromwork because dad was a leader of
men and women at work, even inthe automotive industry.
He was a manager, a leader, asupervisor, whatever you want to
call it right And he would comehome and just be in this mood
(02:55):
of like you need to do this, youneed to do that.
It's like why is this this way?
And like fixing solutions thatno one said were a problem right
, but maximizing efficacy in thehome of mom and kids.
And just like making sureeverything was in its place and
had its place right.
And it's because he spent allday leading men to maximize
(03:19):
business efforts right.
And I didn't.
I didn't understand this untiljust recently is like I now in a
position at work where I leadmultiple teams of men and women
to accomplish a goal for thebetter than men of the
organization accomplished ourmission right, and especially
working 10 hour days.
Most days it's I get in this,this headspace of I need to.
(03:43):
I need to guide the direct.
I need to issue guidance anddirect to the team and like
micromanage to a sense, but likethey're grown men and women,
they'll get the mission done,like making sure that the
product and the deliverable andwhat I'm trying to accomplish is
the best product that can comeout of the floor with my name
(04:05):
attached as like hey, my teamand I created this and this is
what we're responsible for.
And when I come home, i'verealized like I've had trouble,
like flipping that switch,because I'll come home and I'll
be like, let's just say, a daylike you're having a bad day
right.
Or a day where you're like Ihave all these problems And then
(04:28):
I'll hear your problems, I'lllike I'll go into this, I'll go
to this mode and I'm like, okay,then do this.
But I can't like that's not,it's not that easy.
I was like, yes, it is thateasy.
It's like either do you likeeither worry about it and fix it
, or don't worry about itbecause you can't control it.
I was like let's focus on thething at hand And then I'll sit
(04:48):
back and I'm like she's not,you're not one of the people
that work for me, or?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
with me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Right And I'm like she's not looking for me to
solve the problem.
She's looking for me to listento the problem and offer a
compassionate and empathy andcompassion.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean, sometimes I'm looking for guidance.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, 90% of the time I I'm a creature of method and
habit and logic, and I will.
I will take that your problemat face value And my first
thought is what is the mostlogical way to solve this?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And then I'll give you that And you'll like huff at
me.
You're like, without saying it,you're like that's not what I
wanted to hear.
And I'm like, well, that's the,that's the most logical answer.
And I know that's not what youwant to hear.
And then, like, i think aboutit later And I'm like that's not
what I should have said in that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's more just like I mean, cause you're, you're
right in that aspect of you dohave that you're still in that
mentality of work where you'rejust thinking of this and then
not taking it, like you said, atface value.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm not taking it at husband level, Right And being
like okay, this is outside ofwork at home.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Let's discuss this and take that approach versus
like.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I haven't had that transition to like where I've
decompressed from work.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And like I'm not thinking as a husband, i'm
thinking as I am, authorityfigure is the wrong way to say
it, because, like I don't treatpeople, i work with or who work
for me.
It's like you work for me, Likeit's not that's not my
leadership style, but I take itas a problem that needs to be
solved as a mission oriented andnot like I'm.
(06:30):
I'm a husband with love andcompassion.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like there's a better way to say what I'm trying to
say, rather than like hearingyour problem and treating you as
a colleague at face value.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So I've noticed that more about myself and like
thinking about it, like justwhen, like times, i had to
reflect.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And I've noticed, though, also that you have
gotten better about that, likebecause, before you, like you
said, like you're you've verydirect on that, and I'm just
sitting there like like you'remissing the point, and then, or
I'm not trying to talk to you,like we're at work right now,
like let's switch modes here,like we're at home, and.
(07:10):
But I've noticed that how yourespond to start like even if
we're at work sometimes, and youhave a moment where we can talk
, or something like that, orwhen you do get home, and like
you get home before me, soyou've been home for a little
while before, so you've had thatkind of time where I'm not like
, yeah, where I'm not like comedown off the ops tempo.
Right And like and we'll discusssomething or I'll bring
(07:32):
something up and your responseto that is a lot better than
what it used to be like, hascompletely different than cause.
Something like cause.
A lot of the times I will foolon.
Before I even bring somethingup to you, i've already had the
conversation in my head.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I've had the conversation, Is this even worth
?
and I even still do that, Likeyou'll be sitting there and I'll
, I'll be, like I was thinking.
And then all of a sudden I go,nope, never mind.
And you're like what are youtalking about?
And it's because in that splitpoint two, five seconds, if I
said I was thinking I havealready run through what I say
your response and how this isgoing to end, And I'm like not
(08:12):
worth my breath of fighting andthen you get upset because then
you're like.
You're like me, like one of mypet peeves is like I, if you're
going to start something, finishit.
Yes, i can't stand when peoplesay never mind, i'm like, don't
just tell me.
But I know I do that and I getupset with myself.
I'm like I can't expect him todo that for me if I don't do
(08:33):
that in return.
So but then I'm like it's well,cause I already know the answer
.
Most of the time I'm right,like in my response, like how
the response goes.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cause you know me so well.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and then sometimes you kind of will throw
me off and it ends up beingdifferent And I'm like, okay,
switching it up.
But 99.9% of the time.
I am pretty spot on with howthis conversation is going to go
And I've already played it outin my head in both many five
different ways.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's also my least favorite thing for you to say.
When you look at me and go.
I was thinking.
I was like, oh God, like myinitial thought is she was like
cause you the way you say you'relike.
So I was thinking and I waslike, here we go.
What, what is this going to be?
I was like sometimes it can bean awesome idea or this is going
(09:22):
to be terrible.
When I'm going to talk you offthis ledge?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's more.
You think it's terrible andmeaningless, but to me it brings
me home joy and comfort in ourhousehold, like I want, like I
think of ways to make our housemore homey, like putting not
having such blank walls, likeputting art on the walls or
decorating Like I want todecorate and you're like no
(09:46):
waste of money, but I think of,like, when I go to bed I want us
to go into a nice comfy plushcloud bed, and then I'm like I
want to have art on the wall andI want to have a nice homey
decorative space and you're likeI don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But I'm of the mentality like I want to be able
to pack up everything that'simportant to me and like less
than like things I'm going toneed.
Like if a defecation hits, theoscillation scenario right.
Like I want to be able to packup everything I need that is
like important and get gone Andthen like if somebody came in
here, they're like there's justrandom shit I got.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I have no clue of anything of where they've gone
in here, or I've no idea Likethat, just because on the off
chance that one day the world isgoing to you know mentality,
like I've seen so much of shitin the world And I'm just like,
like everybody kind of likereaches this.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
We were talking about this in class on sat on
Saturday about our significantothers and their defensive
mindset, about like even MrMallory from UTM and public
safety and education.
Shout out to Matt Mallory, bythe way.
He is an outstanding Epicinstructor And if you ever have
a chance to take a ultimatetraining munitions force on
(11:05):
force instructor class highlyrecommend was one of the best
trainings I've been through.
Also, shout out to ice firearmsand defensive training and Ron
for hosting that, because thatwas some of the best training
that I've had in a long time.
Not that the training I havebeen through is bad, but like
(11:27):
that level of training is notsomething often seen in the
civilian sector And it wasoutstanding.
I had a blast.
I'm sore from being shot, but itwas fantastic.
I loved it.
I really look forward togetting into UTM and getting
after it.
But we were having theconversation about our
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significant others and how theydon't have the same mindset that
we have, mostly because, likethey haven't seen the things in
the world that we've seen.
And, like he was saying, likehis wife will, he'll get her to
a certain point of likesomething will happen and she's
like legitimately scared.
He'll train her up when, likehow to respond to certain
situations, and then, as timegoes on, where incidents don't
(12:10):
happen, like that level ofheightened awareness goes back
to what he would consider herops normal And then another
situation will happen.
It's like everything he taughther just like went by the way
side right, like habits and waysto prevent it, and so, like we
are constantly on this upwardtrend of heightened awareness,
like how can I stay more, moresituationally aware, how can I
(12:33):
be better prepared?
And our significant others likethey'll get there and then
plateau and then for they'llmaintain for a second and then
spread back to ops normal.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, i mean, i can understand that, like I
personally I don't want toconstantly live in that
headspace.
So like, yes, you know me likeI'm all sit there and I'm like I
just want to live in suchshining rainbows And why can't
we all just get along and haveworld peace?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
or whatever, but I think you see it as a mindset of
fear, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's not living, but I know that like, but at the
same time I'm also a person who,when I'm walking to and from a
store, i'm thinking of everywhich way of some mother effort
is up behind me or coming nearme.
What weapon do I have with my50 pound coach purse that I'm
going to massively destroy himwith or say try me, motherfucker
(13:21):
.
Today is my lucky day.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What's your first choice of weapon?
What are you going to use?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
In my purse, my stabby stab.
Well, i always hold my key.
I always pull my keys out and Ihold my key, my house key,
between my fingers, my house keyand my male key.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So I could just which finger do you hold it between?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
three, 10 to you mustile which?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
which fingers do you hold between?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
my first two.
So between your index fingerand your middle finger my index
in my middle and my middle of myring.
So two keys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So just use the one you're going to get more force.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, i, just because your middle finger that's
beyond that between your middleand ring finger like three,
there's no bone support.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're going to break your knuckles.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, well, i was thinking like three, 10 to Yuma
when he like jabs him with thatlittle fork thing.
I'm just thinking like and I dothat because I'm like you, just
the world we live in like younever know, and it like it can
it's, and I don't know if it'sjust because we were having this
discussion on the way homewhile we were listening to the
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Bang Steel podcast shout out tothem, dan and Forrester.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm so excited to go take that course.
Yeah, i am so excited Myammunition came in.
I'm so stoked to take the BangSteel course.
We were just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We'll get to the meltdown that happened to along
the way, but but, any who wewere talking about that, just
how things are, so just.
I guess it's just me, like I'mnot thinking that it wasn't
always out there, it's just inthe world we live in today,
everything is so just in yourface, like ads in your face I
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was.
I was at church the other dayand they were talking about how
people you see about 5000 ads aday and you don't think that
you're thinking there's no way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But I definitely don't, because I work in an
environment where I don't seethat.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But think about it.
It's not just social media,it's not just I'm scrolling and
there's an ad there.
You think, the moment you lookout, there's an ad for an
advertisement of a job, likethere's ads everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, but I work in an environment where none of
that is allowed.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Right, i know, i'm just saying in general majority
of the population, the sheep.
But I'm just so.
I'm saying, like the world welive in, with all the chaos
that's going on right now, it'sso just in your face, publicized
versus back then.
You know, we think about whenwe were kids.
You know we played outside, ourparents, you know, and I'm like
, come home with the lights on.
You know when the treat lightscome on and they didn't have to
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worry.
And that also might be the factthat we grew up in a small town
.
But I don't think so because Iknow a lot of my friends.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
If we had kids in Maryland, there's no way I would
let them play outside untilthey're still in the skin.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I sit there and I see kids running outside, i'm like
where are your parents?
But I think it's just becauseof all the chaotic crap.
Like I know that if I saw a kidoutside and was talking like I
know I don't mean any with illwill, creepy, weird crap by that
, but I don't know what theirparents been through, that would
think why the hell is thisblonde woman?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
you know that's why I'm not allowed to go to
playgrounds anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was literally standing there I mean
playgrounds right outside herhouse.
His mom was standing there andI was just watching all the kids
play And she's like, oh, it'sso sweet for you to come out
here and spend time with yourkid.
Which one's yours?
And I was like I don't know, Ihaven't picked one yet.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But it's just like I was saying.
it's just crazy how I'm more onedge and aware of what I have
been in past years, of mysurroundings And do you think
that is?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh, that's an angry dog.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Which probably barking at some Amazon, ups or
FedEx person.
I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So do you think your heightened awareness is a result
of you seeing things in theworld, or you think it's a
result of the absorption, ofbeing married to and living with
me and knowing what I point outin the world?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Both.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Both You think so.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah For not.
Yes, because I've seen a lot ofthings and there's also a lot
of things that I've been through, so I've made myself aware of,
if the possibility of somethinghappens, like what am I going to
do to defend myself?
And then also, yes, beingmarried to you as well.
You know things that you havepointed out to make me more, but
that's why I also try to chooseto not always.
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That's why there are a lot oftimes like we say that we're
very yin and yang with eachother, like because we have
different strength andweaknesses, like sometimes I
have to bring you to earthlylevels.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Back to reality.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Back to reality of certain or considered what is
the norm of society and be like,okay, we can't, let's, let's
live in Kim's bubble world, andthen later on we can go live in
Mav's chaotic world or on edgeworld or whatever.
But sometimes I have to bringyou down.
But like I've also adapted the.
(18:01):
When we are not together and Igo out somewhere, i don't sit
with my back to the door and Iused to never really think of
that until you and I gottogether.
I kind of just okay.
I mean, i was always kind oflike I don't want to sit here or
too close to another chair orwhatever, but like I never
really thought about where Iwould sit at a restaurant or at
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a bar or something like thatuntil you and I got together,
and then I kind of adapted thatalong the way.
So now, if you're not there,like automatically, if we go out
, like I know you're sittinghere, but then if I go out with
friends, i'm like, nope, i'msitting with my back to the wall
.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You want to see me be a chaotic mess?
Put me in somewhere where Ihave to have my back to the door
and I will.
I will not engage inconversation.
I don't want to eat, i don'twant to have a drink.
I want to sit here And, likethe only thing I can think about
is what the hell is comingthrough the door behind me.
Like I will like sit sidewaysin my chair and distract myself
from the conversation because Ican't be comfortable in the
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situation.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm definitely more alert and aware, like I said,
than I, you know, was in thepast.
Like just it's just.
Like I said, i don't it seeingthings in the world, like people
are, just they're crazy, andyou never know Like I'm going to
put you on the spot.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You ready for this?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh God, ok Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So in our time that we've spent together, ok, what
are three things that you'vepicked up from me?
through absorption, throughlike defensive mindset, and
mental and situational awareness.
Um this is like right off thetop of your head, whatever comes
to you.
I mean, I would definitely likemy will count the back to the
(19:45):
door thing, so give me twoothers.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
OK, all right, So door and then how to like better
Like.
I've always been aroundfirearms, but we've definitely
you've trained me on betterpistol firearm training, so
that's something that I've hadto like be quick on.
Like I need to practice loading, reloading, like versus like,
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because if it's not just goingto be, oh hold on, please pause
for a second, don't shoot mewhile I try to reload my
magazine.
Like I need to be on ready forlike.
Ok, another thing is with ourBoogaloo stuff, our love that
you've now called it Boogaloostuff.
Our Boogaloo stuff are our kids.
My special.
I want to keep you aroundforever.
(20:31):
Gift.
Yeah, your kid my kid You werewhen we had our almost Boogaloo
incident.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
When the power went out, when the power went out God
.
I was so fucking ready.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You were strapped and ready to go, but like you had
all these things and I'm like,well, why don't I have all these
things?
And so I've adapted, like, well, i need I need this, i need one
of those, and I need one ofthose too, because I do see,
like like I said, back to thewhole purse situation, what do I
have in my purse that I couldutilize besides a pen?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
If I get to it that I can shank someone with basic I
think that's a perfect segue toyou never, you never know what
you're going to need until thetime that you need, it right
Exactly.
Which is like I say this all thetime, i say this in classes and
I say this to students The bodycannot go where the mind hasn't
been.
I even think I've mentioned iton this before, like that was a
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perfect example of like younever thought about it until,
like you never thought.
And you're looking at me andlike, watching me like gear up
and get everything together Andyou're like what's that for?
And I was like well, this iswhy I would need this.
You're like well, why don't Ihave that?
And I was like well, maybe thisis a good example.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like so, if you're going to get into a fight, you
can kind of like, look at theperson and kind of determine how
you think it's going to go, toa sense, right, based on how you
know them.
So you're thinking, i'll kicktheir ass, put their ass on the
ground, right.
But when you're thrown intoscenarios that you're not sure
of, or if something happenswhere you need to be ready to go
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, you don't know who or whatyou're going to come across.
True, and you need that.
So that's a lot different versusbeing like, well, i'm a fucked
up, bitch up you know, or youknow, like in a bar because
someone's drunk or whatever,some idiot Joe Schmoe in the
Walmart parking lot Like well,listen, i read the Walmart
parking lot the other day andthere was some kid out there
(22:22):
just behind the car doing likepracticing uppercuts.
I'm like is this guy a hire?
Is he just training in the damnparking lot?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Was it the crosswalk ninja?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, no, it was some guy with some half ass buzzed
haircut and a pony tail thing.
Oh no, it was really weird Andwe were just like.
but that was one of the momentsI was like, if him and his
friends start coming our way,i'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Are you, though.
Are you best equipped for thatsituation?
Yeah, because I can tell youright now, you were not.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'll tell you I was because we were loading stuff
into the back of the truck andwe still I call it my Thor
hammer, that big sledge thingthat I was ready to just grab
that baby and just all thefucking yeah my war hammer.
Yeah, you're on the back of thetruck.
It's when we built it.
It's like it slides aroundsometime.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The one me and rank were built.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, sometimes when I'm going on the really big like
steep not steep but sharp looparounds, i'll hear it to the
other side of the truck.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That bitch is heavy too.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, it doesn't do it all the time, but sometimes
when I'm going on like sharpturns, or sharp turns when I'm
driving, i'll hear it slide fromone side of the truck the bed
to the other.
Now, the first time it happenedI was like what the fuck is
that?
And then I was like, oh, it'smy war hammer.
So I got that in the back ofthe truck.
When the truck got broken into,that was like one of the first
things I checked to was if theywent to the bed of the truck.
(23:40):
It's still my war hammer.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But like nobody's going to take, it Oh no.
It's just pieces of galvanizedsteel pipe.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I remember, like in high school.
I remember if I was ever in afight with some chick or
whatever, i was like oh please,come by my locker.
Because my first thought wasI'm going to grab this book
which, if any of y'all don'tknow what those are, back in the
day we had actual books and wehad to sign our name in them.
Remember.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Do they not give books to kids?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, everything's online.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
They don't give textbooks to kids.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No they don't give textbooks to kids, Oh shit.
I swear to God, Ask Olivia ForOlivia.
Norman, Leb O~ Up For David J.
I'm telling you she doesn'tgive her computer.
No, yeah, it's all, yeah, shehas.
She does all her work oncomputer, on her computer.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
These kids never know what it's like to carry on that
big ass backpack and if youwore it the right way.
You were Fucking dork.
You had to let the straps allthe way out, so the thing was
smacking you in the back of thefucking legs.
Like if you wore your backpack,like like you're supposed to
wear a backpack, like up aboveyour waist you were like like
look at.
Look at that fucking dork.
Yeah but they mean the model.
Rest of us are walking aroundwith a smack in us into fucking
(24:41):
ankles Back problem.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Why did?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
my fucking back hurt so bad.
It's like it's today an a dayor a b day, because I got to
know which books to put in mybackpack and you always left
them sitting in the bedroom.
You're like these are my a daybooks, these are my b day books.
and you always left it in acertain stack because, like
first period, i can go front toback, right, and you just switch
it the day before and then youput it out.
You're like oh, i forgot, is itan a day or a b day?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, people.
And then you always like lookin the back to see who had the
book that you had to see if oneof you Did you see somebody you
knew had it Yeah but no, i wouldalways be at my locker and be
like, oh, i wish a bitch comesay something to me, because I'm
just going to take this bookand smack the shit.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
EGONETRY bitch.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Those books got heavy , man.
I remember when I thought itwas a good idea to like when the
side bags were a thing.
They were like the one strapthe one strap and I was like, oh
, I want one.
Then you're constantly justswitching your shoulders because
it got so heavy.
Making my own book covers likea color on them.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You remember the stretchy ones Yeah they're like
the cools Yeah like either.
It was like the the spandexStretchy book covers is like if
you had book, like if you, andthen you would always write on
it.
And it was like some jank ass.
Right, it's like.
This one's my geometry book.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
This is my american history book.
Yeah, this is my civics book.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, i remember writing on them and then, like
you're always like fuck it bloodthrough.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you remember?
like I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If they do remember the planners, they would give
you Yeah, so Yeah, they're likeyou could switch back and forth
and then you would always you'dalways hear some kid in class
going Yes, it's like, will youfucking stop before I make you
eat all your teeth tiktok alwaysgets me lately There's been
things that they've beenscrolling like 90s and earlys
2000 stuff and I'm like, oh thenostalgic, all the nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So but yeah, i think about that when it comes to, i
usually like What was yourfavorite school lunch meal?
dude The aula cart where Iwould get the.
I would get taco.
I would get the taco um Thatcomes in the taco shell, and
then get meat cheese, beans,queso cheese, like kind of like
(26:52):
taco salad.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I remember, or pizza god, what was my favorite one?
The rib sandwich was always thegrossest.
Remember breakfast pizza?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
dude Yeah, those little squares.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, the breakfast pizza was the best.
I like days when we had burgersand fries.
Those were good.
Remember when they used to giveus like school lunch calendars.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, but like in high school though, like you
just got to a point where youcan just go, like they had the
regular Lunch line that youwould pay and it would whatever,
but like yeah like that wasalready paid for for the year.
Your parents would put money onAnd the lunch would be.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You don't get you get , lunch, you get sack.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You get sack lunch because your parents didn't pay
your bill.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
West Virginia sent us home with lunch bills every
month.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh no, we didn't get that.
We had lunch bills you had topay and, like your parents, if
you want like if you, if you gotfree lunch, you were a poor kid
.
That's what i'm saying, Yeahlike if you didn't have money
because you get the brown sackof like peanut butter and jelly
with like apple.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So the west Virginia has this, this program, where,
like your parents, have to fillout like what they're meat, like
what they're Yeah, we did yeah.
So if you had free lunch likenobody.
Like Like, unless you toldsomebody, nobody knew or unless
you were like on student staff.
Like you just plugged in yourstudent number, but you could
always tell, because the teacherwould always like hand out your
lunch bills And you'd alwaystell the kid that they didn't
(28:04):
get a lunch bill at free lunch,which is really shitty.
But, like your, when your kids,like you, don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, yeah, we had to scan our id so that they
could see, like if we had moneyon our account or if we didn't,
because if we didn't They'd belike sorry, you don't get to
have that awesome food.
And then they had the a lacarte line, which is where you
pay cash and that's where we goget like.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You're like You know, we were fucking savages as kids
.
Yeah, never me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I got told one time I needed to look outside the
popularity box.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, you do because you're a boozy bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, this kid was just talking one day and he wouldn't
shut up, and like he was justsitting there just like talking.
You're being a mean girl Yeah,and I looked, i was like, are
you new here?
And he was like no, kim, i'vebeen going here for the past
like three years like oh, I'venever seen you before.
Our friend was like well, maybeif you looked outside the
popularity box, friend onceyou're like.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Are you one of those?
Were you one of the preppypopular girls?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, i was a stoner and partied.
I mean I was not like I was nota cheerleader My mom wanted me
to be a cheerleader But I mean Ihung out with everyone.
I hung out with the popularkids and there was just like we
went to school Everyone kneweveryone.
Yeah, I mean there were thekids that you didn't talk to,
but We pretty much talked toeveryone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I went through my yearbook when we went home And
like just looking at The peopleI graduated with and it's like
who I still have contact with,do I know who this person was
like?
Oh, i could do it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Who were they in?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
who were they in high school?
Where are they at now?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I could tell I'm a major.
I'm friends with a lot ofpeople I went to high school
with on social media, so like Ikind of know what like the ones
you're not friends with, or onesthat, like, fell off the face
of the planet.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah like the ones who were real popular in high
school.
Now they're not popular anymore.
Yeah, they kind of like it'slike everybody everybody wanted
to be you in high school And nowyou're just like you're not.
You're not.
There is someone, there's anthat sounds really shitty to say
like.
I'm not judging, i'm just likeno But like.
My personal thought to myselfis like man, we all thought you
were gonna be something.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Now You're just not, yeah, no, there's I, someone
that like I hadn't even one ofthe kids I went to high school
with, that like I hadn't, ihadn't hurt, like thought of and
forever like one of theEmployees at my work.
One of the new hires had thesame name And so that's why it
kind of like clicked for me.
I was like, oh man, like Thisthe same person it's not but
(30:22):
like.
But it made me wonder like Whereis that guy?
I think last I heard he joinedthe military and then I'm kind
of wondering like, oh well, didhe live or die?
And then of course I'm tryingto like look him up on like
social media, like is he alive,where is he now?
And then like I can't find him.
So I'm like I hope he's alive,i hope he's doing well, if not,
then you know.
But it just like you kind ofsee names that sometimes pop up
(30:42):
and it's very random that itmight be the Same or not or
whatever, and you're just kindof wondering like where are they
now?
Or, like you see the ones that,like You would net, like or
ended up together that you wouldnever think would ever be
together Yeah there's a coupleof those where I'm like I have
several of those.
Yeah, like they ended up Merelylike.
(31:03):
I never thought like or thatthey didn't even like talk in
high school.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, those are like those.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And then, like whoa, and they end up together somehow
.
I mean that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I always like the ones that were like I see it
more in girls than I see it indudes, but it was girls who were
like oh, i I'm, oh, we can'tdate, we're not in the same
social circles.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
She's like oh my god, you're a loser, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And then like here we are, 30, and they're like
settling.
And she's like look at you, youare such a pompous bitch.
And like, here you are Andyou're like, oh, i'm only gonna
do this and I'm gonna make sosuccessful.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And it's like or they have, like they're, or like one
of yeah, like they have a glowup, and then the girl's like,
yeah, dude has a glow up, andthey're like oh fuck like, or
the girl's like.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It has a glow down And you're like yeah, you were
such a bitch and you could havemade something for yourself.
And now look at you.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, i, i do see there's a lot of people that
like have done very well, likethat, even if they went through
a rough time, they've come outon the other side doing really
well And I'm like good man, goodfor you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Hell Yeah, i love a good success story.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, i've got a few of those that pop up and I'm
like man, good for you, and Ijust want to like all of them,
like love.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So don't tell them about your meltdown now.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, we can, yeah, yeah we have another crying
episode, folks crying episode Sowe all know about for all those
have been longtime listeners.
Well we got a few minutes.
Um, i guess we can end on this,so we all know we've been going
.
Uh, we're at 32 minutes.
We can.
We got like a half hour.
Yeah, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, we're fun, so Um oh, we only do 30 minute
podcasts, that's right, we go,we kind of go over a little
sometimes any who back to mystory.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
So for all those longtime listeners, we all know
that I am a very huge fan ofmcdonald's chicken nuggie sweet
and sour sauce And I have hadcrying episodes because I have
not gotten my sweet and soursauce.
Well, we were on our way homefrom west virginia and we were
on our way back.
We are on our way home from.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
West Virginia?
I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Marylin, it's not.
I know that.
We said that, okay, i'm gonnaget off track, okay.
So we're driving, i'm drivingAnd what I like to do is we
don't have buckies up here, soanyone who listens well, there's
buckies is kind of expanding.
So we don't have a buckies inMaryland, but there are truck
(33:24):
stops that are loves and theyhave really good beef jerky.
I am a beef jerky snob fanatic.
I'm all about the.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't like the Jack Link's chewy Like traditional
dried, yeah, traditionalDehydrated beef jerky.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Traditional dry yes, beef jerky, and they have some
very good beef jerky.
We bought some on the way down.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
ate the shit out of it all week.
I'm gonna destroy it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And then I was like, that's fine, i'm gonna stop on
the way back.
Well, i always stop at the onebecause it's the last one, 64
and 81.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's the halfway point usually, And so I'm like
I'm gonna stop at this one,right before we get to Woodstock
.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Woodstock.
So we're conversation and we'rejust going and we're talking
and I'm not.
I am not paying attention, andI knew it because I was just
thinking.
I was like if I don't payattention I'm gonna miss the
stamp.
And I kept looking at the exitsAnd I was like, nope, not yet,
nope not, yet I don't evenremember what we were talking
about.
I don't know.
I think I was ranting about thesociety we live in and the Me
(34:24):
Too bullshit and crying wolfsituation, crap, and all those
woke ass fucking bitches outthere.
But we were having, we were indeep conversation but while we
were doing like but before that,like I was we were listening to
the podcast and Yeah, we werelistening to Bank Steel, we were
listening to Bank Steel And Ikept watching the signs and I
was like I know we're gettingclose because we've been a good
(34:46):
hour or so and so I need to payattention.
And then, sure as shit, we gotinto deep topic And then, right
when it ended, it was silent fora minute And then, all of a
sudden, i looked to my left andI saw it.
I saw the sign.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
She saw loves.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I saw loves and I and I realized it was just passing
me by, or I was passing it byand I was just like and I would
already pass the X.
And I was like no, no, no, no,i shouldn't.
And then I was just like no,and you're looking at like what?
And then you saw what I waslooking at.
And I immediately busted out inlaughter And I just started it
And I just went, no, no, and Ijust started crying.
(35:25):
He looked over at me and I hadtears coming down my face.
She was pulling.
I almost took the emergencydirt road where the cops always
say turn around.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, she was gonna take the authorized vehicle turn
around.
She was like I'm going.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I was like no, no, no , and I was like I'm an
authorized vehicle, I was, sohe's like we'll just go to the
next.
I was like there is no next one, we have passed our limit, like
I was.
like we are, we have passed it.
There is no next one.
Like it is done, we have passedthe loves And he goes.
We'll just take the next exit,babe, and it'll be fine.
And I'm like no, i'm not, causethe next exit was like two
miles up the road and to turnback around like that's a whole
(36:00):
waste of time.
I was like no, it would havebeen 10 minutes.
I don't care, that's 10 minutesmore.
We were on the road and nothome.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
So I don't.
So for like the next hour Ithink I was pretty silent, i was
pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
She was so upset It was so I was, so I was trying so
hard not to crack up laughing,i was like, look, i know you
went, but I was dying.
God, it was so funny, i was soupset.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
He's like we'll find you.
So I was like no, it's not thesame, it's kind of like shots.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I like all the meat sticks and shots.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So in San Antonio now , like they have a couple of
different stores open, but backin the day, a few years ago, you
know there was only onelocation, and it was out Highway
16 going towards Bandera, andso anytime we would go to.
Bandera, or I would go toHeather's house like I was, like
I'm hitting up shots, like I'mgoing to shots.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We're getting two pounds of meat sticks.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, we'd get sausage beef sticks like
whatever.
And so I would always getpissed if, like, we didn't go.
So I'd always kind of getexcited.
So it's kind of like that Andso and then I found out that
they actually you can buy themonline now, like you can, even I
can order them online.
But anyhow, that's kind of whatI felt like, because, like
there's just a good, the nicetraditional homemade the way
(37:20):
it's supposed to be, jerky anddry sausage, not that semi
hydrated manufactured crack.
I mean it's okay, Like don't getme wrong, but I would rather do
a pinch.
Right, but it's like if I'mgoing to spend you know what,
who has some pretty good whichis also kind of hard to find is
the no man's beef jerky?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, they got some good jerky too, so yeah, that
one's pretty good too, andthey're kind of hard to find Who
Pemmigan beef jerky.
One had the Indian on it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's just like Jack Lee.
is that chewy stuff?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But, mom, you can get it out.
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, it is now.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It is now.
Man mom bought me some of theallies And I remember like me
and granddad would eat Pemmiganbeef jerky Yeah, I just like
it's just once you have that drytraditional jerky.
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It just takes away from that wet, nasty, chewy crap
.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I agree with you, gross 100%.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But that was my meltdown of the week.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Otherwise it was a pretty good weekend.
Like crying over beef jerky.
Yeah, I probably got really hotin the parade.
God it got so hot.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But you got such a good photo, yeah, annie got a
really good photo of me.
Oh, you was so cute.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
So my niece, how old is Annie now?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Eight No.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, she's not, She's really tall for her age.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
She is super tall for her age.
I don't know how old she is.
Anyway, she had this likelittle Polaroid camera.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Six.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Seven Six.
I'm such a terrible uncle.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I'm horrible at that, i'm so sorry, i'm a terrible
cousin.
I helped her.
I snagged her a bunny on thator puppy thing during the parade
.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
She had this little Polaroid camera and she only
what.
she had six pictures, Yes Andlike.
so they told her like you gotto make them count.
That's why I told her And, man,when I tell you she nailed this
picture, she absolutely nailedit.
Like I was just coming acrossthe old bridge in Alderson.
She had it perfectly centered,really good picture.
And she waited until after theparade and she wouldn't let
anybody see it.
(39:19):
And she waited when I came upfor the after parade barbecue
And she's like, oh, i got yousomething And she gave me that
picture and it made me so happy.
It was such a good picture.
I've got it sitting in thetruck.
Now It's sitting in thepaperclip holder on my truck.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, i was her candy helper Apparently.
It was a big ordeal because,like Holly, couldn't help her
this year.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She's growing nugs.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Growing nugs And so Annie asked me if I would help
her with candy.
I said you got it, I'm ready.
And so one of the little Runyour ass off too.
Yeah, one of the little queenson the in the parade was
throwing out little stuffedanimals And she was like going
(40:00):
against these three girls nextto us and she was just getting
all the candy.
Sandy kept it.
She's like Annie, you got toshare because she was just we
were snagging all the candy.
Well, she threw that littlebunny out and it landed between
me and this little girl next tome And I just snagged that
little bunny puppy thing and Igave it to Annie and Sandy was
laughing and I was like Isnagged a little puppy for her.
(40:23):
But, it was a good time.
We had a really good time.
I'm glad we stayed till Tuesday.
I'm glad we actually left onTuesday evening, even though we
wanted to stay just because ofthe horrific traffic from
Wednesday after the holiday.
But, yeah, it was good, it wasa good time.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
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Speaker 1 (40:41):
All right, shameless plug, here we go.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
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, I have seats available in mycourse this weekend, 15, 16 July
.
If you hit me up in an emailfrom my website and mention the
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Speaker 1 (41:12):
And what's that website?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
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So if you friends, family,whatever podcast listener,
random schmuckatelly that wantsto get his wear and carry permit
Also, do it before October 1.
When the law changes inMaryland, sb1 did pass earlier
(41:33):
this year in the Senate So theyare going to increase the
training requirement and theregistration fee is going to
increase, so I wouldn't besurprised if fingerprinting also
increases.
There's going to be a lot, alot of change to the communist
state of Maryland's wear andcarry policy.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
That's one thing I need to do.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
All of which will be taught in my course.
So the law changes andeverything will be taught.
The current law will be taughtand what you can expect come
October 1.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, I need to get my fingerprinting done.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
But I want us to go.
I want to go shoot differentguns and see which I'm
comfortable like, so I can carry.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We do need to get you a carry gun, because you're not
going to carry a 45.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
No, i'm not, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Both of which my pistols are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I know, but yeah, so like we said, or like he said,
maftaccom M-A-V-T-A-C, you canget all that information there
if you're interested.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
And it's my email and cell phone number on the
website.
Absolutely, you're not going toget in a machine.
You're not going to get somerandom robot.
You're going to get me Duringthe day, between the hours of
five and three.
It's best to email me outsideof that.
You'll get my cell phone.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
That's 5 am to 3 pm.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yes, 05 to 1500,.
I am inside the facility, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So anything else.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Our dog's hacking Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Simba's having a hacking up along out there.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Hey, he's doing a lot better, so I'm okay with that.
He scared me the other day Gotme a little riled up.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, he kept me up all night.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Well, he started just throwing up.
I got freaked out Just likelaying on the sofa and he just
started like blah and I was like, oh my god, he's okay though
His stomach just started.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, he's doing better now.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, anyhow, but I want to go watch Gallant
Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Volume 3.
Words mean things.
It was hard.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah well, i'm going to go heat up some leftovers
from last night.
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Speaker 2 (44:25):
Outside of that.
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Speaker 2 (44:27):
Be safe or be deadly, Be good or be good at it.
Ask yourself did you Americatoday?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bye Yeah.
Well, 95% of the time , my hair is always in a messy
bun.
obviously I'm a basic whitegirl who likes her pumpkin spice
lattes in the fall and her hairwith her leggings and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I have an uncontrollable addiction of
firearms.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Welcome back to another episode of Messy Buns
and Shotguns.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Episode 32, let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Screaming in my ear We are back.
We were out of town last week.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Went back to the 4th of July.
We were out in a wonderfulGod's country of a great state
of West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We spent the 4th of July there, so we had a really
nice day, left my motorcyclethere.
You did.
Well, we took the motorcyclebecause, well, you took the
motorcycle and I drove the truckbecause you wanted to put it in
the parade.
I did.
And then the weather was beingreal sketchy and we weren't
really sure how we Did you hearthat eagle screaming in the
(01:13):
distance?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, sure did When I opened that PBR.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I didn't know, you grabbed a PBR.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sure did Cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then we didn't.
It was supposed to storm thewhole way back, so we decided to
leave the bike there and thenwe'd go get it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And it didn't storm at all.
And it didn't storm at all.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Which is fine, it's okay.
You were really tired that dayanyways.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't think our thing's recording.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's recording, is it ?
I'm looking at it There's likeno lines.
There is, it's just really.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I promise you it's recording.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, but we're going to talk for an hour and it's
not going to catch anything.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You want me to verify ?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, we're fine.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And test it real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, you get one shot at this, and then I'm watching
Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
And then, if there's time left,i'm going to play Crime Boss,
rock A City, and then I'm goingto bed.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean I can like pause it real quick and Ah, fuck
it, Let it ride.
Shoot from the hip.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If you say it's recording, it's recording.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is, It's recording .
You get one shot at this.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Scooby.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right.
Well, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So the thing that I want to delete off with today is
I have made an observationabout myself, and this is
assimilating from work life tohome life, and I have trouble
assimilating and making theswitch, like flipping the switch
(02:32):
of coming from work tempo tohome tempo, because I noticed
this in my dad when I was a kid.
So dad would come home fromwork because dad was a leader of
men and women at work, even inthe automotive industry.
He was a manager, a leader, asupervisor, whatever you want to
call it right And he would comehome and just be in this mood
(02:55):
of like you need to do this, youneed to do that.
It's like why is this this way?
And like fixing solutions thatno one said were a problem right
, but maximizing efficacy in thehome of mom and kids.
And just like making sureeverything was in its place and
had its place right.
And it's because he spent allday leading men to maximize
(03:19):
business efforts right.
And I didn't.
I didn't understand this untiljust recently is like I now in a
position at work where I leadmultiple teams of men and women
to accomplish a goal for thebetter than men of the
organization accomplished ourmission right, and especially
working 10 hour days.
Most days it's I get in this,this headspace of I need to.
(03:43):
I need to guide the direct.
I need to issue guidance anddirect to the team and like
micromanage to a sense, but likethey're grown men and women,
they'll get the mission done,like making sure that the
product and the deliverable andwhat I'm trying to accomplish is
the best product that can comeout of the floor with my name
(04:05):
attached as like hey, my teamand I created this and this is
what we're responsible for.
And when I come home, i'verealized like I've had trouble,
like flipping that switch,because I'll come home and I'll
be like, let's just say, a daylike you're having a bad day
right.
Or a day where you're like Ihave all these problems And then
(04:28):
I'll hear your problems, I'lllike I'll go into this, I'll go
to this mode and I'm like, okay,then do this.
But I can't like that's not,it's not that easy.
I was like, yes, it is thateasy.
It's like either do you likeeither worry about it and fix it
, or don't worry about itbecause you can't control it.
I was like let's focus on thething at hand And then I'll sit
(04:48):
back and I'm like she's not,you're not one of the people
that work for me, or?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
with me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Right And I'm like she's not looking for me to
solve the problem.
She's looking for me to listento the problem and offer a
compassionate and empathy andcompassion.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean, sometimes I'm looking for guidance.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, 90% of the time I I'm a creature of method and
habit and logic, and I will.
I will take that your problemat face value And my first
thought is what is the mostlogical way to solve this?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And then I'll give you that And you'll like huff at
me.
You're like, without saying it,you're like that's not what I
wanted to hear.
And I'm like, well, that's the,that's the most logical answer.
And I know that's not what youwant to hear.
And then, like, i think aboutit later And I'm like that's not
what I should have said in that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's more just like I mean, cause you're, you're
right in that aspect of you dohave that you're still in that
mentality of work where you'rejust thinking of this and then
not taking it, like you said, atface value.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm not taking it at husband level, Right And being
like okay, this is outside ofwork at home.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Let's discuss this and take that approach versus
like.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I haven't had that transition to like where I've
decompressed from work.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And like I'm not thinking as a husband, i'm
thinking as I am, authorityfigure is the wrong way to say
it, because, like I don't treatpeople, i work with or who work
for me.
It's like you work for me, Likeit's not that's not my
leadership style, but I take itas a problem that needs to be
solved as a mission oriented andnot like I'm.
(06:30):
I'm a husband with love andcompassion.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like there's a better way to say what I'm trying to
say, rather than like hearingyour problem and treating you as
a colleague at face value.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So I've noticed that more about myself and like
thinking about it, like justwhen, like times, i had to
reflect.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And I've noticed, though, also that you have
gotten better about that, likebecause, before you, like you
said, like you're you've verydirect on that, and I'm just
sitting there like like you'remissing the point, and then, or
I'm not trying to talk to you,like we're at work right now,
like let's switch modes here,like we're at home, and.
(07:10):
But I've noticed that how yourespond to start like even if
we're at work sometimes, and youhave a moment where we can talk
, or something like that, orwhen you do get home, and like
you get home before me, soyou've been home for a little
while before, so you've had thatkind of time where I'm not like
, yeah, where I'm not like comedown off the ops tempo.
Right And like and we'll discusssomething or I'll bring
(07:32):
something up and your responseto that is a lot better than
what it used to be like, hascompletely different than cause.
Something like cause.
A lot of the times I will foolon.
Before I even bring somethingup to you, i've already had the
conversation in my head.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I've had the conversation, Is this even worth
?
and I even still do that, Likeyou'll be sitting there and I'll
, I'll be, like I was thinking.
And then all of a sudden I go,nope, never mind.
And you're like what are youtalking about?
And it's because in that splitpoint two, five seconds, if I
said I was thinking I havealready run through what I say
your response and how this isgoing to end, And I'm like not
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worth my breath of fighting andthen you get upset because then
you're like.
You're like me, like one of mypet peeves is like I, if you're
going to start something, finishit.
Yes, i can't stand when peoplesay never mind, i'm like, don't
just tell me.
But I know I do that and I getupset with myself.
I'm like I can't expect him todo that for me if I don't do
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that in return.
So but then I'm like it's well,cause I already know the answer
.
Most of the time I'm right,like in my response, like how
the response goes.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cause you know me so well.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and then sometimes you kind of will throw
me off and it ends up beingdifferent And I'm like, okay,
switching it up.
But 99.9% of the time.
I am pretty spot on with howthis conversation is going to go
And I've already played it outin my head in both many five
different ways.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's also my least favorite thing for you to say.
When you look at me and go.
I was thinking.
I was like, oh God, like myinitial thought is she was like
cause you the way you say you'relike.
So I was thinking and I waslike, here we go.
What, what is this going to be?
I was like sometimes it can bean awesome idea or this is going
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to be terrible.
When I'm going to talk you offthis ledge?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's more.
You think it's terrible andmeaningless, but to me it brings
me home joy and comfort in ourhousehold, like I want, like I
think of ways to make our housemore homey, like putting not
having such blank walls, likeputting art on the walls or
decorating Like I want todecorate and you're like no
(09:46):
waste of money, but I think of,like, when I go to bed I want us
to go into a nice comfy plushcloud bed, and then I'm like I
want to have art on the wall andI want to have a nice homey
decorative space and you're likeI don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But I'm of the mentality like I want to be able
to pack up everything that'simportant to me and like less
than like things I'm going toneed.
Like if a defecation hits, theoscillation scenario right.
Like I want to be able to packup everything I need that is
like important and get gone Andthen like if somebody came in
here, they're like there's justrandom shit I got.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I have no clue of anything of where they've gone
in here, or I've no idea Likethat, just because on the off
chance that one day the world isgoing to you know mentality,
like I've seen so much of shitin the world And I'm just like,
like everybody kind of likereaches this.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
We were talking about this in class on sat on
Saturday about our significantothers and their defensive
mindset, about like even MrMallory from UTM and public
safety and education.
Shout out to Matt Mallory, bythe way.
He is an outstanding Epicinstructor And if you ever have
a chance to take a ultimatetraining munitions force on
(11:05):
force instructor class highlyrecommend was one of the best
trainings I've been through.
Also, shout out to ice firearmsand defensive training and Ron
for hosting that, because thatwas some of the best training
that I've had in a long time.
Not that the training I havebeen through is bad, but like
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that level of training is notsomething often seen in the
civilian sector And it wasoutstanding.
I had a blast.
I'm sore from being shot, but itwas fantastic.
I loved it.
I really look forward togetting into UTM and getting
after it.
But we were having theconversation about our
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significant others and how theydon't have the same mindset that
we have, mostly because, likethey haven't seen the things in
the world that we've seen.
And, like he was saying, likehis wife will, he'll get her to
a certain point of likesomething will happen and she's
like legitimately scared.
He'll train her up when, likehow to respond to certain
situations, and then, as timegoes on, where incidents don't
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happen, like that level ofheightened awareness goes back
to what he would consider herops normal And then another
situation will happen.
It's like everything he taughther just like went by the way
side right, like habits and waysto prevent it, and so, like we
are constantly on this upwardtrend of heightened awareness,
like how can I stay more, moresituationally aware, how can I
(12:33):
be better prepared?
And our significant others likethey'll get there and then
plateau and then for they'llmaintain for a second and then
spread back to ops normal.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, i mean, i can understand that, like I
personally I don't want toconstantly live in that
headspace.
So like, yes, you know me likeI'm all sit there and I'm like I
just want to live in suchshining rainbows And why can't
we all just get along and haveworld peace?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
or whatever, but I think you see it as a mindset of
fear, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's not living, but I know that like, but at the
same time I'm also a person who,when I'm walking to and from a
store, i'm thinking of everywhich way of some mother effort
is up behind me or coming nearme.
What weapon do I have with my50 pound coach purse that I'm
going to massively destroy himwith or say try me, motherfucker
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.
Today is my lucky day.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What's your first choice of weapon?
What are you going to use?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
In my purse, my stabby stab.
Well, i always hold my key.
I always pull my keys out and Ihold my key, my house key,
between my fingers, my house keyand my male key.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So I could just which finger do you hold it between?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
three, 10 to you mustile which?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
which fingers do you hold between?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
my first two.
So between your index fingerand your middle finger my index
in my middle and my middle of myring.
So two keys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So just use the one you're going to get more force.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, i, just because your middle finger that's
beyond that between your middleand ring finger like three,
there's no bone support.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're going to break your knuckles.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, well, i was thinking like three, 10 to Yuma
when he like jabs him with thatlittle fork thing.
I'm just thinking like and I dothat because I'm like you, just
the world we live in like younever know, and it like it can
it's, and I don't know if it'sjust because we were having this
discussion on the way homewhile we were listening to the
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Bang Steel podcast shout out tothem, dan and Forrester.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm so excited to go take that course.
Yeah, i am so excited Myammunition came in.
I'm so stoked to take the BangSteel course.
We were just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We'll get to the meltdown that happened to along
the way, but but, any who wewere talking about that, just
how things are, so just.
I guess it's just me, like I'mnot thinking that it wasn't
always out there, it's just inthe world we live in today,
everything is so just in yourface, like ads in your face I
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was.
I was at church the other dayand they were talking about how
people you see about 5000 ads aday and you don't think that
you're thinking there's no way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But I definitely don't, because I work in an
environment where I don't seethat.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But think about it.
It's not just social media,it's not just I'm scrolling and
there's an ad there.
You think, the moment you lookout, there's an ad for an
advertisement of a job, likethere's ads everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, but I work in an environment where none of
that is allowed.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Right, i know, i'm just saying in general majority
of the population, the sheep.
But I'm just so.
I'm saying, like the world welive in, with all the chaos
that's going on right now, it'sso just in your face, publicized
versus back then.
You know, we think about whenwe were kids.
You know we played outside, ourparents, you know, and I'm like
, come home with the lights on.
You know when the treat lightscome on and they didn't have to
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worry.
And that also might be the factthat we grew up in a small town
.
But I don't think so because Iknow a lot of my friends.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
If we had kids in Maryland, there's no way I would
let them play outside untilthey're still in the skin.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I sit there and I see kids running outside, i'm like
where are your parents?
But I think it's just becauseof all the chaotic crap.
Like I know that if I saw a kidoutside and was talking like I
know I don't mean any with illwill, creepy, weird crap by that
, but I don't know what theirparents been through, that would
think why the hell is thisblonde woman?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
you know that's why I'm not allowed to go to
playgrounds anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was literally standing there I mean
playgrounds right outside herhouse.
His mom was standing there andI was just watching all the kids
play And she's like, oh, it'sso sweet for you to come out
here and spend time with yourkid.
Which one's yours?
And I was like I don't know, Ihaven't picked one yet.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But it's just like I was saying.
it's just crazy how I'm more onedge and aware of what I have
been in past years, of mysurroundings And do you think
that is?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh, that's an angry dog.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Which probably barking at some Amazon, ups or
FedEx person.
I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So do you think your heightened awareness is a result
of you seeing things in theworld, or you think it's a
result of the absorption, ofbeing married to and living with
me and knowing what I point outin the world?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Both.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Both You think so.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah For not.
Yes, because I've seen a lot ofthings and there's also a lot
of things that I've been through, so I've made myself aware of,
if the possibility of somethinghappens, like what am I going to
do to defend myself?
And then also, yes, beingmarried to you as well.
You know things that you havepointed out to make me more, but
that's why I also try to chooseto not always.
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That's why there are a lot oftimes like we say that we're
very yin and yang with eachother, like because we have
different strength andweaknesses, like sometimes I
have to bring you to earthlylevels.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Back to reality.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Back to reality of certain or considered what is
the norm of society and be like,okay, we can't, let's, let's
live in Kim's bubble world, andthen later on we can go live in
Mav's chaotic world or on edgeworld or whatever.
But sometimes I have to bringyou down.
But like I've also adapted the.
(18:01):
When we are not together and Igo out somewhere, i don't sit
with my back to the door and Iused to never really think of
that until you and I gottogether.
I kind of just okay.
I mean, i was always kind oflike I don't want to sit here or
too close to another chair orwhatever, but like I never
really thought about where Iwould sit at a restaurant or at
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a bar or something like thatuntil you and I got together,
and then I kind of adapted thatalong the way.
So now, if you're not there,like automatically, if we go out
, like I know you're sittinghere, but then if I go out with
friends, i'm like, nope, i'msitting with my back to the wall
.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You want to see me be a chaotic mess?
Put me in somewhere where Ihave to have my back to the door
and I will.
I will not engage inconversation.
I don't want to eat, i don'twant to have a drink.
I want to sit here And, likethe only thing I can think about
is what the hell is comingthrough the door behind me.
Like I will like sit sidewaysin my chair and distract myself
from the conversation because Ican't be comfortable in the
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situation.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm definitely more alert and aware, like I said,
than I, you know, was in thepast.
Like just it's just.
Like I said, i don't it seeingthings in the world, like people
are, just they're crazy, andyou never know Like I'm going to
put you on the spot.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You ready for this?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh God, ok Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So in our time that we've spent together, ok, what
are three things that you'vepicked up from me?
through absorption, throughlike defensive mindset, and
mental and situational awareness.
Um this is like right off thetop of your head, whatever comes
to you.
I mean, I would definitely likemy will count the back to the
(19:45):
door thing, so give me twoothers.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
OK, all right, So door and then how to like better
Like.
I've always been aroundfirearms, but we've definitely
you've trained me on betterpistol firearm training, so
that's something that I've hadto like be quick on.
Like I need to practice loading, reloading, like versus like,
(20:10):
because if it's not just goingto be, oh hold on, please pause
for a second, don't shoot mewhile I try to reload my
magazine.
Like I need to be on ready forlike.
Ok, another thing is with ourBoogaloo stuff, our love that
you've now called it Boogaloostuff.
Our Boogaloo stuff are our kids.
My special.
I want to keep you aroundforever.
(20:31):
Gift.
Yeah, your kid my kid You werewhen we had our almost Boogaloo
incident.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
When the power went out, when the power went out God
.
I was so fucking ready.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You were strapped and ready to go, but like you had
all these things and I'm like,well, why don't I have all these
things?
And so I've adapted, like, well, i need I need this, i need one
of those, and I need one ofthose too, because I do see,
like like I said, back to thewhole purse situation, what do I
have in my purse that I couldutilize besides a pen?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
If I get to it that I can shank someone with basic I
think that's a perfect segue toyou never, you never know what
you're going to need until thetime that you need, it right
Exactly.
Which is like I say this all thetime, i say this in classes and
I say this to students The bodycannot go where the mind hasn't
been.
I even think I've mentioned iton this before, like that was a
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perfect example of like younever thought about it until,
like you never thought.
And you're looking at me andlike, watching me like gear up
and get everything together Andyou're like what's that for?
And I was like well, this iswhy I would need this.
You're like well, why don't Ihave that?
And I was like well, maybe thisis a good example.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like so, if you're going to get into a fight, you
can kind of like, look at theperson and kind of determine how
you think it's going to go, toa sense, right, based on how you
know them.
So you're thinking, i'll kicktheir ass, put their ass on the
ground, right.
But when you're thrown intoscenarios that you're not sure
of, or if something happenswhere you need to be ready to go
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, you don't know who or whatyou're going to come across.
True, and you need that.
So that's a lot different versusbeing like, well, i'm a fucked
up, bitch up you know, or youknow, like in a bar because
someone's drunk or whatever,some idiot Joe Schmoe in the
Walmart parking lot Like well,listen, i read the Walmart
parking lot the other day andthere was some kid out there
(22:22):
just behind the car doing likepracticing uppercuts.
I'm like is this guy a hire?
Is he just training in the damnparking lot?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Was it the crosswalk ninja?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, no, it was some guy with some half ass buzzed
haircut and a pony tail thing.
Oh no, it was really weird Andwe were just like.
but that was one of the momentsI was like, if him and his
friends start coming our way,i'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Are you, though.
Are you best equipped for thatsituation?
Yeah, because I can tell youright now, you were not.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'll tell you I was because we were loading stuff
into the back of the truck andwe still I call it my Thor
hammer, that big sledge thingthat I was ready to just grab
that baby and just all thefucking yeah my war hammer.
Yeah, you're on the back of thetruck.
It's when we built it.
It's like it slides aroundsometime.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The one me and rank were built.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, sometimes when I'm going on the really big like
steep not steep but sharp looparounds, i'll hear it to the
other side of the truck.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That bitch is heavy too.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, it doesn't do it all the time, but sometimes
when I'm going on like sharpturns, or sharp turns when I'm
driving, i'll hear it slide fromone side of the truck the bed
to the other.
Now, the first time it happenedI was like what the fuck is
that?
And then I was like, oh, it'smy war hammer.
So I got that in the back ofthe truck.
When the truck got broken into,that was like one of the first
things I checked to was if theywent to the bed of the truck.
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It's still my war hammer.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But like nobody's going to take, it Oh no.
It's just pieces of galvanizedsteel pipe.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I remember, like in high school.
I remember if I was ever in afight with some chick or
whatever, i was like oh please,come by my locker.
Because my first thought wasI'm going to grab this book
which, if any of y'all don'tknow what those are, back in the
day we had actual books and wehad to sign our name in them.
Remember.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Do they not give books to kids?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, everything's online.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
They don't give textbooks to kids.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No they don't give textbooks to kids, Oh shit.
I swear to God, Ask Olivia ForOlivia.
Norman, Leb O~ Up For David J.
I'm telling you she doesn'tgive her computer.
No, yeah, it's all, yeah, shehas.
She does all her work oncomputer, on her computer.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
These kids never know what it's like to carry on that
big ass backpack and if youwore it the right way.
You were Fucking dork.
You had to let the straps allthe way out, so the thing was
smacking you in the back of thefucking legs.
Like if you wore your backpack,like like you're supposed to
wear a backpack, like up aboveyour waist you were like like
look at.
Look at that fucking dork.
Yeah but they mean the model.
Rest of us are walking aroundwith a smack in us into fucking
(24:41):
ankles Back problem.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Why did?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
my fucking back hurt so bad.
It's like it's today an a dayor a b day, because I got to
know which books to put in mybackpack and you always left
them sitting in the bedroom.
You're like these are my a daybooks, these are my b day books.
and you always left it in acertain stack because, like
first period, i can go front toback, right, and you just switch
it the day before and then youput it out.
You're like oh, i forgot, is itan a day or a b day?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, people.
And then you always like lookin the back to see who had the
book that you had to see if oneof you Did you see somebody you
knew had it Yeah but no, i wouldalways be at my locker and be
like, oh, i wish a bitch comesay something to me, because I'm
just going to take this bookand smack the shit.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
EGONETRY bitch.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Those books got heavy , man.
I remember when I thought itwas a good idea to like when the
side bags were a thing.
They were like the one strapthe one strap and I was like, oh
, I want one.
Then you're constantly justswitching your shoulders because
it got so heavy.
Making my own book covers likea color on them.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You remember the stretchy ones Yeah they're like
the cools Yeah like either.
It was like the the spandexStretchy book covers is like if
you had book, like if you, andthen you would always write on
it.
And it was like some jank ass.
Right, it's like.
This one's my geometry book.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
This is my american history book.
Yeah, this is my civics book.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, i remember writing on them and then, like
you're always like fuck it bloodthrough.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you remember?
like I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If they do remember the planners, they would give
you Yeah, so Yeah, they're likeyou could switch back and forth
and then you would always you'dalways hear some kid in class
going Yes, it's like, will youfucking stop before I make you
eat all your teeth tiktok alwaysgets me lately There's been
things that they've beenscrolling like 90s and earlys
2000 stuff and I'm like, oh thenostalgic, all the nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So but yeah, i think about that when it comes to, i
usually like What was yourfavorite school lunch meal?
dude The aula cart where Iwould get the.
I would get taco.
I would get the taco um Thatcomes in the taco shell, and
then get meat cheese, beans,queso cheese, like kind of like
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taco salad.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I remember, or pizza god, what was my favorite one?
The rib sandwich was always thegrossest.
Remember breakfast pizza?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
dude Yeah, those little squares.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, the breakfast pizza was the best.
I like days when we had burgersand fries.
Those were good.
Remember when they used to giveus like school lunch calendars.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, but like in high school though, like you
just got to a point where youcan just go, like they had the
regular Lunch line that youwould pay and it would whatever,
but like yeah like that wasalready paid for for the year.
Your parents would put money onAnd the lunch would be.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You don't get you get , lunch, you get sack.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You get sack lunch because your parents didn't pay
your bill.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
West Virginia sent us home with lunch bills every
month.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh no, we didn't get that.
We had lunch bills you had topay and, like your parents, if
you want like if you, if you gotfree lunch, you were a poor kid
.
That's what i'm saying, Yeahlike if you didn't have money
because you get the brown sackof like peanut butter and jelly
with like apple.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So the west Virginia has this, this program, where,
like your parents, have to fillout like what they're meat, like
what they're Yeah, we did yeah.
So if you had free lunch likenobody.
Like Like, unless you toldsomebody, nobody knew or unless
you were like on student staff.
Like you just plugged in yourstudent number, but you could
always tell, because the teacherwould always like hand out your
lunch bills And you'd alwaystell the kid that they didn't
(28:04):
get a lunch bill at free lunch,which is really shitty.
But, like your, when your kids,like you, don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, yeah, we had to scan our id so that they
could see, like if we had moneyon our account or if we didn't,
because if we didn't They'd belike sorry, you don't get to
have that awesome food.
And then they had the a lacarte line, which is where you
pay cash and that's where we goget like.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You're like You know, we were fucking savages as kids
.
Yeah, never me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I got told one time I needed to look outside the
popularity box.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, you do because you're a boozy bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, this kid was just talking one day and he wouldn't
shut up, and like he was justsitting there just like talking.
You're being a mean girl Yeah,and I looked, i was like, are
you new here?
And he was like no, kim, i'vebeen going here for the past
like three years like oh, I'venever seen you before.
Our friend was like well, maybeif you looked outside the
popularity box, friend onceyou're like.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Are you one of those?
Were you one of the preppypopular girls?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, i was a stoner and partied.
I mean I was not like I was nota cheerleader My mom wanted me
to be a cheerleader But I mean Ihung out with everyone.
I hung out with the popularkids and there was just like we
went to school Everyone kneweveryone.
Yeah, I mean there were thekids that you didn't talk to,
but We pretty much talked toeveryone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I went through my yearbook when we went home And
like just looking at The peopleI graduated with and it's like
who I still have contact with,do I know who this person was
like?
Oh, i could do it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Who were they in?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
who were they in high school?
Where are they at now?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I could tell I'm a major.
I'm friends with a lot ofpeople I went to high school
with on social media, so like Ikind of know what like the ones
you're not friends with, or onesthat, like, fell off the face
of the planet.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah like the ones who were real popular in high
school.
Now they're not popular anymore.
Yeah, they kind of like it'slike everybody everybody wanted
to be you in high school And nowyou're just like you're not.
You're not.
There is someone, there's anthat sounds really shitty to say
like.
I'm not judging, i'm just likeno But like.
My personal thought to myselfis like man, we all thought you
were gonna be something.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Now You're just not, yeah, no, there's I, someone
that like I hadn't even one ofthe kids I went to high school
with, that like I hadn't, ihadn't hurt, like thought of and
forever like one of theEmployees at my work.
One of the new hires had thesame name And so that's why it
kind of like clicked for me.
I was like, oh man, like Thisthe same person it's not but
(30:22):
like.
But it made me wonder like Whereis that guy?
I think last I heard he joinedthe military and then I'm kind
of wondering like, oh well, didhe live or die?
And then of course I'm tryingto like look him up on like
social media, like is he alive,where is he now?
And then like I can't find him.
So I'm like I hope he's alive,i hope he's doing well, if not,
then you know.
But it just like you kind ofsee names that sometimes pop up
(30:42):
and it's very random that itmight be the Same or not or
whatever, and you're just kindof wondering like where are they
now?
Or, like you see the ones that,like You would net, like or
ended up together that you wouldnever think would ever be
together Yeah there's a coupleof those where I'm like I have
several of those.
Yeah, like they ended up Merelylike.
(31:03):
I never thought like or thatthey didn't even like talk in
high school.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, those are like those.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And then, like whoa, and they end up together somehow
.
I mean that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I always like the ones that were like I see it
more in girls than I see it indudes, but it was girls who were
like oh, i I'm, oh, we can'tdate, we're not in the same
social circles.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
She's like oh my god, you're a loser, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And then like here we are, 30, and they're like
settling.
And she's like look at you, youare such a pompous bitch.
And like, here you are Andyou're like, oh, i'm only gonna
do this and I'm gonna make sosuccessful.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And it's like or they have, like they're, or like one
of yeah, like they have a glowup, and then the girl's like,
yeah, dude has a glow up, andthey're like oh fuck like, or
the girl's like.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It has a glow down And you're like yeah, you were
such a bitch and you could havemade something for yourself.
And now look at you.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, i, i do see there's a lot of people that
like have done very well, likethat, even if they went through
a rough time, they've come outon the other side doing really
well And I'm like good man, goodfor you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Hell Yeah, i love a good success story.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, i've got a few of those that pop up and I'm
like man, good for you, and Ijust want to like all of them,
like love.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So don't tell them about your meltdown now.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, we can, yeah, yeah we have another crying
episode, folks crying episode Sowe all know about for all those
have been longtime listeners.
Well we got a few minutes.
Um, i guess we can end on this,so we all know we've been going
.
Uh, we're at 32 minutes.
We can.
We got like a half hour.
Yeah, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, we're fun, so Um oh, we only do 30 minute
podcasts, that's right, we go,we kind of go over a little
sometimes any who back to mystory.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
So for all those longtime listeners, we all know
that I am a very huge fan ofmcdonald's chicken nuggie sweet
and sour sauce And I have hadcrying episodes because I have
not gotten my sweet and soursauce.
Well, we were on our way homefrom west virginia and we were
on our way back.
We are on our way home from.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
West Virginia?
I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Marylin, it's not.
I know that.
We said that, okay, i'm gonnaget off track, okay.
So we're driving, i'm drivingAnd what I like to do is we
don't have buckies up here, soanyone who listens well, there's
buckies is kind of expanding.
So we don't have a buckies inMaryland, but there are truck
(33:24):
stops that are loves and theyhave really good beef jerky.
I am a beef jerky snob fanatic.
I'm all about the.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't like the Jack Link's chewy Like traditional
dried, yeah, traditionalDehydrated beef jerky.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Traditional dry yes, beef jerky, and they have some
very good beef jerky.
We bought some on the way down.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
ate the shit out of it all week.
I'm gonna destroy it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And then I was like, that's fine, i'm gonna stop on
the way back.
Well, i always stop at the onebecause it's the last one, 64
and 81.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's the halfway point usually, And so I'm like
I'm gonna stop at this one,right before we get to Woodstock
.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Woodstock.
So we're conversation and we'rejust going and we're talking
and I'm not.
I am not paying attention, andI knew it because I was just
thinking.
I was like if I don't payattention I'm gonna miss the
stamp.
And I kept looking at the exitsAnd I was like, nope, not yet,
nope not, yet I don't evenremember what we were talking
about.
I don't know.
I think I was ranting about thesociety we live in and the Me
(34:24):
Too bullshit and crying wolfsituation, crap, and all those
woke ass fucking bitches outthere.
But we were having, we were indeep conversation but while we
were doing like but before that,like I was we were listening to
the podcast and Yeah, we werelistening to Bank Steel, we were
listening to Bank Steel And Ikept watching the signs and I
was like I know we're gettingclose because we've been a good
(34:46):
hour or so and so I need to payattention.
And then, sure as shit, we gotinto deep topic And then, right
when it ended, it was silent fora minute And then, all of a
sudden, i looked to my left andI saw it.
I saw the sign.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
She saw loves.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I saw loves and I and I realized it was just passing
me by, or I was passing it byand I was just like and I would
already pass the X.
And I was like no, no, no, no,i shouldn't.
And then I was just like no,and you're looking at like what?
And then you saw what I waslooking at.
And I immediately busted out inlaughter And I just started it
And I just went, no, no, and Ijust started crying.
(35:25):
He looked over at me and I hadtears coming down my face.
She was pulling.
I almost took the emergencydirt road where the cops always
say turn around.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, she was gonna take the authorized vehicle turn
around.
She was like I'm going.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I was like no, no, no , and I was like I'm an
authorized vehicle, I was, sohe's like we'll just go to the
next.
I was like there is no next one, we have passed our limit, like
I was.
like we are, we have passed it.
There is no next one.
Like it is done, we have passedthe loves And he goes.
We'll just take the next exit,babe, and it'll be fine.
And I'm like no, i'm not, causethe next exit was like two
miles up the road and to turnback around like that's a whole
(36:00):
waste of time.
I was like no, it would havebeen 10 minutes.
I don't care, that's 10 minutesmore.
We were on the road and nothome.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
So I don't.
So for like the next hour Ithink I was pretty silent, i was
pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
She was so upset It was so I was, so I was trying so
hard not to crack up laughing,i was like, look, i know you
went, but I was dying.
God, it was so funny, i was soupset.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
He's like we'll find you.
So I was like no, it's not thesame, it's kind of like shots.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I like all the meat sticks and shots.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So in San Antonio now , like they have a couple of
different stores open, but backin the day, a few years ago, you
know there was only onelocation, and it was out Highway
16 going towards Bandera, andso anytime we would go to.
Bandera, or I would go toHeather's house like I was, like
I'm hitting up shots, like I'mgoing to shots.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We're getting two pounds of meat sticks.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, we'd get sausage beef sticks like
whatever.
And so I would always getpissed if, like, we didn't go.
So I'd always kind of getexcited.
So it's kind of like that Andso and then I found out that
they actually you can buy themonline now, like you can, even I
can order them online.
But anyhow, that's kind of whatI felt like, because, like
there's just a good, the nicetraditional homemade the way
(37:20):
it's supposed to be, jerky anddry sausage, not that semi
hydrated manufactured crack.
I mean it's okay, Like don't getme wrong, but I would rather do
a pinch.
Right, but it's like if I'mgoing to spend you know what,
who has some pretty good whichis also kind of hard to find is
the no man's beef jerky?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, they got some good jerky too, so yeah, that
one's pretty good too, andthey're kind of hard to find Who
Pemmigan beef jerky.
One had the Indian on it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's just like Jack Lee.
is that chewy stuff?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But, mom, you can get it out.
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, it is now.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It is now.
Man mom bought me some of theallies And I remember like me
and granddad would eat Pemmiganbeef jerky Yeah, I just like
it's just once you have that drytraditional jerky.
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It just takes away from that wet, nasty, chewy crap
.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I agree with you, gross 100%.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But that was my meltdown of the week.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Otherwise it was a pretty good weekend.
Like crying over beef jerky.
Yeah, I probably got really hotin the parade.
God it got so hot.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But you got such a good photo, yeah, annie got a
really good photo of me.
Oh, you was so cute.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
So my niece, how old is Annie now?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Eight No.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, she's not, She's really tall for her age.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
She is super tall for her age.
I don't know how old she is.
Anyway, she had this likelittle Polaroid camera.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Six.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Seven Six.
I'm such a terrible uncle.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I'm horrible at that, i'm so sorry, i'm a terrible
cousin.
I helped her.
I snagged her a bunny on thator puppy thing during the parade
.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
She had this little Polaroid camera and she only
what.
she had six pictures, Yes Andlike.
so they told her like you gotto make them count.
That's why I told her And, man,when I tell you she nailed this
picture, she absolutely nailedit.
Like I was just coming acrossthe old bridge in Alderson.
She had it perfectly centered,really good picture.
And she waited until after theparade and she wouldn't let
anybody see it.
(39:19):
And she waited when I came upfor the after parade barbecue
And she's like, oh, i got yousomething And she gave me that
picture and it made me so happy.
It was such a good picture.
I've got it sitting in thetruck.
Now It's sitting in thepaperclip holder on my truck.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, i was her candy helper Apparently.
It was a big ordeal because,like Holly, couldn't help her
this year.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She's growing nugs.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Growing nugs And so Annie asked me if I would help
her with candy.
I said you got it, I'm ready.
And so one of the little Runyour ass off too.
Yeah, one of the little queenson the in the parade was
throwing out little stuffedanimals And she was like going
(40:00):
against these three girls nextto us and she was just getting
all the candy.
Sandy kept it.
She's like Annie, you got toshare because she was just we
were snagging all the candy.
Well, she threw that littlebunny out and it landed between
me and this little girl next tome And I just snagged that
little bunny puppy thing and Igave it to Annie and Sandy was
laughing and I was like Isnagged a little puppy for her.
(40:23):
But, it was a good time.
We had a really good time.
I'm glad we stayed till Tuesday.
I'm glad we actually left onTuesday evening, even though we
wanted to stay just because ofthe horrific traffic from
Wednesday after the holiday.
But, yeah, it was good, it wasa good time.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
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Speaker 1 (40:41):
All right, shameless plug, here we go.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
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, I have seats available in mycourse this weekend, 15, 16 July
.
If you hit me up in an emailfrom my website and mention the
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Speaker 1 (41:12):
And what's that website?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
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So if you friends, family,whatever podcast listener,
random schmuckatelly that wantsto get his wear and carry permit
Also, do it before October 1.
When the law changes inMaryland, sb1 did pass earlier
(41:33):
this year in the Senate So theyare going to increase the
training requirement and theregistration fee is going to
increase, so I wouldn't besurprised if fingerprinting also
increases.
There's going to be a lot, alot of change to the communist
state of Maryland's wear andcarry policy.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
That's one thing I need to do.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
All of which will be taught in my course.
So the law changes andeverything will be taught.
The current law will be taughtand what you can expect come
October 1.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, I need to get my fingerprinting done.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
But I want us to go.
I want to go shoot differentguns and see which I'm
comfortable like, so I can carry.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We do need to get you a carry gun, because you're not
going to carry a 45.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
No, i'm not, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Both of which my pistols are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I know, but yeah, so like we said, or like he said,
maftaccom M-A-V-T-A-C, you canget all that information there
if you're interested.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
And it's my email and cell phone number on the
website.
Absolutely, you're not going toget in a machine.
You're not going to get somerandom robot.
You're going to get me Duringthe day, between the hours of
five and three.
It's best to email me outsideof that.
You'll get my cell phone.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
That's 5 am to 3 pm.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yes, 05 to 1500,.
I am inside the facility, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So anything else.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Our dog's hacking Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Simba's having a hacking up along out there.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Hey, he's doing a lot better, so I'm okay with that.
He scared me the other day Gotme a little riled up.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, he kept me up all night.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Well, he started just throwing up.
I got freaked out Just likelaying on the sofa and he just
started like blah and I was like, oh my god, he's okay though
His stomach just started.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, he's doing better now.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, anyhow, but I want to go watch Gallant
Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Volume 3.
Words mean things.
It was hard.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah well, i'm going to go heat up some leftovers
from last night.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Okay, you want to give your sign off.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Sure, you can follow us on Instagram at
messybunsandshotguns.
If you don't already follow usthere, you can follow us on
tiki-taki.
All of our handles and stuffare through our Instagram.
You can always DM us if youwant to.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
We don't get a lot of outreach from fans.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, we don't, but that's fine.
It's good to put it out therefor whoever wants to.
You can email us, dm us,whatever.
All of the information.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Give us a topic you want us to discuss and we'll go
down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, just give us a topic andjust comment on our Instagram
page or anything like that.
You can do that stuff Also.
there was something else I wasgoing to add and I totally
forgot.
You can support us through ourInstagram page as well.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Outside of that.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, outside of that .
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Be safe or be deadly, Be good or be good at it.
Ask yourself did you Americatoday?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bye Yeah.
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