January 6, 2026 • 22 mins
Kyle Tucker continues to be connected to the Mets. We talk about how real those rumors seem and what a possible contract for him could look like. Then, we lament how slow this offseason has gone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is Up?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets
Up Podcast. We've got some interesting Kyle Tucker news. I
know people might be getting a little bit of a
rumor fatigue here, but Brian Nicholson Smith, Ben Nicholson Smith,
what is that? Ben Nicholson Smith drop some more on
a podcast where he seems to think the Mets might
be one of the big players for Kyle Tucker this
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offseason and kind of leaning towards maybe the Blue Jay's
not being as aggressive on a guy like that. We're
gonna talk about everything that he said. We're gonna talk
about Kyle Tucker. Welcome back to another Kyle Tucker episode.
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We're on a new platform right now where we're doing
our uploading, so just bear with us as we get
that going YouTube though, Crisp. As always, James, you sent
me this tweet. How'd you feel when you saw this
news excited.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I just we're dying for some kind of splash. I
think this is definitely the splash. And Ben Nicholson Smith
is very plugged in with the Blue Jays, and he
said this on the Blue Jay's sports Net five ninety
the Fan, which is their number one sports radio and
all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Radio right then.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What he said very specifically, at one point the Blue
Jays looked like the best candidate to give Kyle Tucker
a long term deal. Now I would say that's the Mets.
I mean, that's that's it. That's a very contract right there.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, that's I wouldn't have expected the Mets to be
the front runners in his eye, or is there anyone's
eyes to give a long term contract to Kyle Tucker.
If you told me the shorter term deal high aav
a bunch of opt outs, I would have been more inclined.
But also at the same time, again I'm not I'm
not opposed to giving Kyle Tucker a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think that's also what do we considering a long
term deal? At this point, we've kind of been circling
the drain on this Kyle Tucker Mets thing for a
few months. Literally it's been a few months, which is
crazy to think about. But if no one's going to
give him a long term deal, then the longest deal
probably just gets him. Like if you're willing to give
him five years or six years, you might just get
Kyle Tucker. You probably have to structure opt outs after
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the third year at the soon as just because you're
gonna you're going to give up qualifying off for penalties.
But it seems like the market is just very, very
soft that we could talk about that just in terms
of what's going on with all these teams in Kyle
Tucker right now.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But the Mets could mess could use a bat.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I prefer writing, but I'll take Kyle Tucker like, there's
no I don't see any harmy Giving Kyle Tucker, like
a five year, one hundred and eighty five million dollar
deal probably probably starts two hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would think, right, you think you got you think
it's gotta be a forty million dollar a year. If
it's gonna be that much shorter than what he was
expecting coming into the offseason, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Cool with me too. That's great. Kyle Tucker the weird
year last year.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think he's getting I don't know, I think he's
I think there's Kyle Tucker fatigue, that Kyle Tucker underrated
right now. Halfway through the season last year before he
had that slide where he slightly fractured his hand. They're
eighty three games, seventeen homers, twenty steals, neither or the ops.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
In Wrigley, Like, that's those great numbers for lefty.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, it's like he's he's a great baseball player, and
the fact that he's not gonna get a twelve year
deal makes him that much more enticing.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Honestly, I feel like you mentioned it, like maybe it's
the fatigue he's being criminally under rated right now. We've
talked about on this channel before. But this is a
top twenty player in baseball. I feel like at the
absolute worst, and you can make conversations that at times
he has been a borderline top fifteen, top ten guys.
So I don't know yet, Like I don't know why.
I know why teams aren't interested. And it's the money
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thing in the length that's always what it is. If
you're not the generational type players. It seems like right now,
you're not gonna be getting that length. But at the
same time, like this dude in this met's lineup would
do absolute wonders. I know it would be like a
little left left handed heavy, but at the same time,
don't really care. Kyle Tucker. Is that good?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
No, And we also got another pretty interesting note from
the Will Salm and Ken roseenvel article. This is this
is the winter of Will Will Salmon's specific I will
shoutout Will, so if you guys have not been reading
every single word that Will Salmon is writing on the
Athletic this winter, like you're missing out because he's on
top of everything. But another again strange line about this
perception that Kyle Tucker is not exactly in love with
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the game of baseball, or not that he's not in
love with the game baseball, just the fact he doesn't
really want the spotlight. It was about a link between
Kyle Tucker and the Dodgers. Yes, Tucker on say, a
four year deal with opt outs and a massive AAV
would be a classic Andrew Friedman ad Andrew for me
the Dodgers President Baseball Operations. The idea also might appeal
to Tucker's low key personality rather than the center of attention.
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He would perhaps be the Dodgers' fifth or sixth biggest star.
So pulling two things from that. One, we have a
rumor about the Dodgers and the Mets and Kyle Tucker
on the same day. So let's let's stroke, let's try
and get some let's try and get some more money
on that contract. Two would be the same situation with
the Mets. He would be the third guy that people
look at in terms of star power, even in his
own starting lineups. It's if that is something that he
might want, we can also satisfy that craving.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, it's weird. You always get nervous about the guys
who don't apparently love the spotlight, and New York City
is the spotlight. The only other bigger one would be
the Dodgers, but because they have all the mega mega
superstars on that team, it is a little bit different.
But he is. He's just so good. Again. I really
come back to the idea of if the met are
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truly interested, if David Sertins is truly interested, I do.
I think we have a very good shot. I don't
remember what the percentage that I want that I put
him down for But when we mentioned those three guys,
I said, what like thirty three percent? And I think
you got even more aggressive. I think you said like
forty or fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I said forty. I'm just I'm just still expecting some
level of a splash, like whether it be Tucker or Framber.
We just know this Mets team is going to spend
more money right now.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They have to. Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The guaranteed players on the roster are only set to
make two hundred and forty four million dollars, and we've
all the arbitration guys that will get it added into that.
We have the dead money from Nemo, Jeff Frankie Montas,
which is which comes out to another like thirty million dollars.
But there's money to add, Like, I don't really expect
to go into the season undred three hundred million dollars,
and this of course will put those way over three
hundred million dollars. But we've ever since Eve come and
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Bay the team, we've been the top three pay roll team.
Like I don't I don't see that. I don't see
that stopping. And there's so many players available, him being
the best one, the contract coming closer to where the
Mets want to live like it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It just seems like it's kind of working out that
way a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It also feels like the longer we wait, it's just
it's gonna reach It's gonna reach a price point that
the Mets are gonna like. It's also gonna reach a
price point that the Dodgers are gonna like. So then
they'll go, yeah, they'll go bidding against each other again
at some point. But as every day ticks closer and
closer to spring training, it does point more. I feel
like in the Mets favor to bring in a guy
like Kyle Tucker, and the idea of having a one
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two three in this lineup of being Lindor, Soto and Tucker.
That's that's arguably one of the best one two threes
in baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And again, is this a pipe tream right now? Probably yeah,
but why not, Like, if you're into it, you're into it.
And the fact that there's a very good report or
reports of the Blue Jays team that's been the perceived
favorite after the Blue Jay's pulled in because Zumo Okamola
over the weekend, who now they're saying is probably going
to be the super utility man that lends itself more
that they probably favor Bobaschet, possibly because they might get
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a shorter deal on him over Kyle Tucker. And all
of a sudden, the markets dries up fast for all
these guys kind of when one science, but they also
get more competitive for everybody else. It's it's strange offseason. Still, Yeah,
it's a strange offseason.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Also, there is there's nothing going on, Like I wish
I could have more juice for you guys, but there's
This is the point of the off season every single
year where normally James goes to Taiwan or Thailand or wherever.
Where do you go Philippines last year, Yeah, with the
Southeast Asia last year, Thailand and Vietnam. But like, at
the same time, there's there's nothing, there's nothing. We have
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to take every single bit of news that we have
and talk about. And we've always said that Kyle Tucker
on a short term deal made sense for the Mets.
He makes sense for every single team in baseball, and
the fact that we have a little inkling of that,
we got to run with it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Cody Bellinger, Fan Bravaldez, Like the Mets are probably going
to be involved with these guys, like we've been telling
you guys all winter, like at the price points and
to your point before about not a lot going on
in this part of the off season right now, but
still a lot could potentially happen. Did you catch the
other Will Salmon article that went on The Athletic on Monday?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
No, I don't, I just I know. The other big
Mets news is that we signed Christian Arroyo for former
top prospect Christian Arroyo. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, the parade starts now Christian Royo about it's gonna
be the unbelievable shortstop of Syracuse. But it was a
mail bag article from Will and Tim Brittle. Okay, it
was a lot about the chaos of the Mets right now.
This is the first question was about the political climate
in the clubhouse. And there were questions about, you know,
is this a reset year? And there was another big
question something we've kind of alluded to in the past,
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and this comes from Robs.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Steve Cohen was sold to us.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
As a lifetime fan of the Mets, but specifically losing
someone like Pete Alonzo's enormous gut punch has actually turned
my children off from the team. There's no way to
argue that team will be better without Pete, at least
for the next three or four seasons. Why the Mets,
specifically Cohen not value Pete and Tim went into a
bit of a diatribe about the fact that Steve wasn't exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The biggest Met fan growing up.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, it was more of Alex Steve, you know, kind
of a loser baseball fan, Yankees nicks like that kind
of thing. I thought that was interesting, an interesting little
Talian article like this. Lots lots of good, good tidbits
in this article. So also, like, do you think is
realistic that we can get Frambervaldez ranger swaz to a
long term deal and will Samon goes a long deal
for Valdrez.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yet, Like what that's That's one thing to talk about too,
is again the obsession with Mets fans and the starting pitching.
And again, we know what happened. It would be tone
deaf for us to think that starting pitching wasn't a
major reason why we didn't make the playoffs last year.
But again, doesn't mean we should go crazy and give
Framber Valde as a contract that you're gonna regret. Definitely
doesn't mean we should go crazy and give Ranger Swaz
a contract that we should go get. Unfortunately, for the players,
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the teams have all the leverage in the current climate
of the free agent market right now, Like the teams
don't have to sign you. You need to sign with
a team in order to get paid US currency next year.
The longer they wait, the less power that these guys have,
Like there's no reason for the Mets to jump the gun.
We know Frambervalde is gonna be good next year. We
know Ranger Swarez is gonna be good next year. We
even have an inkling that a guy that the Mets
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missed out on that we haven't talked about on here yet,
Tatsui and I, was probably gonna be pretty good, better
than what the Mets had last season. Yes, but at
the same time, it's about the contract, what it looks
like in the future, and there there's just bigger plans
for this team.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think, possibly even true with Kazuma Okamoda. I keep
getting confused because talk about these things in the wind up.
I know we haven't done a Mets up in like
a week.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Since then, it's been a full like almost like eight
or nine days since we recorded I think an episode
for Mets up, because we did a lot before we
you know, the new year, like all the Japanese players
are moving on what looked like very very attainable contracts
like Emai's was dirt cheap, Okamotos is gonna end up
being cheap. Murakami was basically nothing. That was a coin
flip at that point. Like these contracts also kind of
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tells you where the rest of baseball felt for these
guys too, Like this isn't just the Mets being anti
them or being afraid to give out the money for
these guys.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Totally, especially a guy like Imai, where he theoretically signed
a one year, seventeen million dollar contract, it can go
up to twenty one.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Million dollars with his with his why what's it called.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I can't remember the escalators escalator's incentives for throwing more
innings or he cannot back in if he doesn't do that,
and it could be a max max three year, sixty
three million dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That's like Taiwan Walker money.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's like the Luis Severino guy again from a team
that doesn't spend money.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Same abe as Franky mantzas last year. But it's like,
that's that's kind of the sense of who tas, who.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
AMAI is right now.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I know that the initial projections of him to start
the offseason we're closing in an eight for two hundred,
wound up being nowhere even remotely in the same not
even the same ballpark, and I have the same state,
they the sound, the same galaxy as that.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The Boys had that first guy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But even still even up to the last week, I
was like, he probably still gets four or five year deal. Yes,
that part's fair, and maybe maybe other teams were in
on Yimai, but the fact that the Astros often the
opportunity to go into the free market one year later,
maybe that was a deciding factor. But also we kind
of had reports that Me's didn't even seem kind of interested,
Yankees didn't even seem kind of interested. Two teams that
could really use a starting pitcher with a milecame of
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upside and a nice floor.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Along with all the other teams major League Baseball that
could use starting pitching.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Every single team like these.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The other thing that happens as part of the offseason
is that the guys with the qualifying offers are just
stuck in the mud. Like I know Bellingium Regman don't
have them, but everybody else It's just like, Wow, these
teams do not want to sacrifice the assets, the draft pick,
the International slop pool money, especially the teams like the Mets.
They're going to be over the luxury tax because the
sharper penalty. It's it's it's really it's just slow right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was really so slow. It is an absolute slog
Is there is there anything that people can look forward to?
Do we have anything?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, I mean we've got Bill Madden, that's sure.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bill Madden did tell us like because uh, one of
the aggregators tweet. Aggregators have been on fire this week.
I'll tip the cap. Oh awesome, some of the best
slop that I've seen in a really long time. We
got one comparing the Mets and the Yankees and be like,
I think the Mets might actually be better than the Yankees,
and everyone's like, who cares, it doesn't matter. They don't
compete with each other. But Bill Madden quote tweeted about
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the rosters and it was like, you know this Mets
team's not too far off from being better than the Yankees.
And we've said something like what stay tuned, stay tuned, Yeah,
which Bill Madden. Bill Madden's been early and right to
basically every massive piece of news in the Mets world,
like the last two or three years, when and when
no one else has leaks like this is kind of
what winds up happening.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But again, like I can't lose the fact in my
mind that the Mets are going to do things like
the Mets going to and again I.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Think they will.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think there's a lot of Mets fans right now
that kind of want to be doing me and gloomy.
And that's fair, for sure, everyone can do whatever they want,
Like that's okay, but there's just there's so many free
agents on the market right now.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like what's really cool about what's going on right now
is that if you are dooming gloom you can kind
you can kind of forget about the Mets for like
a week or two and like relax and not this podcast,
not this podcast. You always listen to us, of course,
but like you theoretically like probably could turn off your
Mets brain except for the Mets. The podcast for about
two weeks, and you wouldn't miss anything, I don't think again,
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you'd be missing like Christian Arroyo getting signed.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, And like we're not even getting like the depth
bullpen signings right now still and we still have a
very incomplete bullpen. But this is a very this is
traditionally a slow week because this is the last week
of arbitration figures being exchanged. So this probably is a
week we're a little bit less than we all often
expect could be happening. But there's there's like a hundred
war left projected war left on players in the free
agent market right now. Like it's a really still quite
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a good class with a lot of impact players out there.
And again it still starts and ends with Kyle Tucker.
Like at worst with Kyle Tucker. I really think the
floor on a five year deal for Kyle Tucker is
like thirty percent better than the league average.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
With the bat, it's like a five win player and.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
A slightly below average defender. Yeah probably, Yeah, Like I'll
see a fight. He was a five win player last
year and he wasn't even that good for half of
the season and he missed three weeks through the injury
two years ago. He was a five win player. He
was a four win player. He only played seventy eight games.
Like this is I don't know. I think the I
think the world's overthinking Kyle Tucker a tiny bit right now.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
This is the weird spot where like we love eggs
of you Loo, we love baseball savant, we love seeing
that stuff, and I think it's good. But at times
for a guy who like I don't think Kyle Tucker
does anything bad. Right, there's no real bad numbers from
Kyle Tucker. He just might not have the elite, elite
elite stuff that you see, but the numbers have just
been good year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It is strange that his bat speed has drifted like
it's just it's just not elite like you want to
see elite bat speed. Like it's kind of oscillly between
like seventy one and a half and seventy two and
a half for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You'd like, also, bet we also know that that can change.
The Blue Jays just did it. They took the corpse
of George Springer's body and he just all of a
sudden became an elite hitter again.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think cale Talker's played. He played most of last
year injured. He said that like he got crapped the
year before because he didn't play through what was a
bit of a we don't know how bad that ashers
are weird with that stuff. Yeah, it seemed like a
take attack injury, a hairline fraction of shame.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We don't really know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And then last year he had the again another I
don't know why this guy keeps getting airline fractures, but.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe that was scared.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Not enough milk on this slide the second phase, the
hairline fraction on the top of his hand, and he
didn't hit on the run for like months after Again
he was on almost a forty home run pace in
a difficult park for left handed hitters to home run
off of the year before, when through the first half
of the season he was on a forty home run pace.
Maybe maybe he just got a lot better and we
didn't realize because of weird circumstances the last two years.
Like it'd be such a steal to get him again,
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like a five for two it would be. And again
he could play the outfield for a few years, and
you want you want to pick up a first basement
in two years.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Us.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, it doesn't mean he did a lot through the minors.
He did in twenty nineteen for a little while. Like
there's also does he play left field?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
A right field?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Again?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't care who cares, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
He could play left. He's definitely good enough to do it.
I don't think so of the is good enough to
play left. But it's just, oh god, we need I
need some juice, right, I need some action from this
Mets team.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I just want some I want some signings.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm trusting the process, but man, I want something to
go down. Even that rumor that went out but the
Yankees Edward Cabrera that people were like obsessed with that
for eight hours, and Craig Mish Marlins beat rather was like,
it's not even close to having what are you guys
talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like, no, this is not going on. It's just
the the baseball world is starred for news, and I
can't I can't wait for the conversations from people like
we need a free agent deadline, all the all the
nonsense rumors and takes that are gonna come out. No,
bad can't do that to the players, they will literally
never make any money.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
No, and again, just go back to this. Everyone should
read again both these Will Salmon articles, this one with
Tim Britton.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Maybe we gotta get Will on. Maybe this's what we
do see if we can get will on this week.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Love to reach out to will see and get him on.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you think sterns and cohen Ce twenty twenty six
out of a transition year from Marquez and Tim goes
On The day he was introduced as the Mets present
base operations October twenty twenty three, Stern said, I don't
know that I would ever say that year here should
be a recent year.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think that's a good reminder for all of us.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yes, because we still have one so over Cisco Lindor
and then Tim expanded.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Would look like it would be a recent year.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
In twenty twenty four ended with the team's best season
in the last decade. This is the changing of the
guard season. But when the Mets still feel should include
postseason play, yea, that is where we're at.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I totally think that. I I don't know where people
have gotten the idea that the Mets are not interested
in being the postseason not trying to be a postseason
team that seemingly came out of nowhere, and I got
to assume it's coming from the mutants on a WFA N. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I think that's fully Joe Biningo
doing that, right, it's shout out Joebeningo though. I mean,
the guy was like an insane caller who became a
radio host. I love Jobingo, Joepiningo got me through my
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my maybe not the best guy, no what maybe not
the best guy, but okay, the best guy. That's not
what I as a radio host when yeah, like twenty
three years old, delivering pizza.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was like, I love listening to joke Ingo. Oh
he's he's an absolute, he's entertainment. He's entertainment to the fullest. Yeah,
And just there's just this it's hard to get past
this impatience though. Right now, you really just want something
to happen, You really want something to be done. Like
what's like if you look at the regular figures of
the Mets world right now. The thing is they've been
tweeting recently. It's just it's just sad.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Maybe maybe this is when we get back on the metstuff.
Twitter and see what we can get away with.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right now, we'll just start crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, want to like plan a tweet on the podcast.
See if people get in on the joke. What's something
that we're gonna tweet in the next week. You come
up with one, I'll come up with one.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We can say something about like is this the Mets
new starting ace or METSI a new starting picture? Is
just that picture of grim is is holding the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's a good one. I like that, something that's good.
I think. I think definitely a mock trade goes in
there where I'm I'm gonna include Kevin Parata. There's no
doubt Kevin Parata for a good player for Freddie Peralta.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, Kevin Parada, Kevin Prava and Matthew Allen who's not
in the organization anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
For Freddie Parolta.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm and I'm definitely on that. That's a good one
we do.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Can we do one more joke?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
How about like the Mets need to bring back Jose Gleasias.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yes, or I heard the Mets need a left handed
or right handed hitting outfielder and Jose Iglacias shragg and
fly balls there he goes go.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
One, Hey, look at us. If we just want to tweet,
we could just think about a couple right there on
the spot.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's how it works. You guys just saw the intermachinations
of our brains.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh but just man, something's gotta happen. I just want something.
The whole league wants something to happen right now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just for some context, we we're gonna be putting out
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What is Up?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets
Up Podcast. We've got some interesting Kyle Tucker news. I
know people might be getting a little bit of a
rumor fatigue here, but Brian Nicholson Smith, Ben Nicholson Smith,
what is that? Ben Nicholson Smith drop some more on
a podcast where he seems to think the Mets might
be one of the big players for Kyle Tucker this
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offseason and kind of leaning towards maybe the Blue Jay's
not being as aggressive on a guy like that. We're
gonna talk about everything that he said. We're gonna talk
about Kyle Tucker. Welcome back to another Kyle Tucker episode.
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We're on a new platform right now where we're doing
our uploading, so just bear with us as we get
that going YouTube though, Crisp. As always, James, you sent
me this tweet. How'd you feel when you saw this
news excited.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I just we're dying for some kind of splash. I
think this is definitely the splash. And Ben Nicholson Smith
is very plugged in with the Blue Jays, and he
said this on the Blue Jay's sports Net five ninety
the Fan, which is their number one sports radio and
all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Radio right then.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What he said very specifically, at one point the Blue
Jays looked like the best candidate to give Kyle Tucker
a long term deal. Now I would say that's the Mets.
I mean, that's that's it. That's a very contract right there.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, that's I wouldn't have expected the Mets to be
the front runners in his eye, or is there anyone's
eyes to give a long term contract to Kyle Tucker.
If you told me the shorter term deal high aav
a bunch of opt outs, I would have been more inclined.
But also at the same time, again I'm not I'm
not opposed to giving Kyle Tucker a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think that's also what do we considering a long
term deal? At this point, we've kind of been circling
the drain on this Kyle Tucker Mets thing for a
few months. Literally it's been a few months, which is
crazy to think about. But if no one's going to
give him a long term deal, then the longest deal
probably just gets him. Like if you're willing to give
him five years or six years, you might just get
Kyle Tucker. You probably have to structure opt outs after
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the third year at the soon as just because you're
gonna you're going to give up qualifying off for penalties.
But it seems like the market is just very, very
soft that we could talk about that just in terms
of what's going on with all these teams in Kyle
Tucker right now.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But the Mets could mess could use a bat.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I prefer writing, but I'll take Kyle Tucker like, there's
no I don't see any harmy Giving Kyle Tucker, like
a five year, one hundred and eighty five million dollar
deal probably probably starts two hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would think, right, you think you got you think
it's gotta be a forty million dollar a year. If
it's gonna be that much shorter than what he was
expecting coming into the offseason, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Cool with me too. That's great. Kyle Tucker the weird
year last year.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think he's getting I don't know, I think he's
I think there's Kyle Tucker fatigue, that Kyle Tucker underrated
right now. Halfway through the season last year before he
had that slide where he slightly fractured his hand. They're
eighty three games, seventeen homers, twenty steals, neither or the ops.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
In Wrigley, Like, that's those great numbers for lefty.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, it's like he's he's a great baseball player, and
the fact that he's not gonna get a twelve year
deal makes him that much more enticing.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Honestly, I feel like you mentioned it, like maybe it's
the fatigue he's being criminally under rated right now. We've
talked about on this channel before. But this is a
top twenty player in baseball. I feel like at the
absolute worst, and you can make conversations that at times
he has been a borderline top fifteen, top ten guys.
So I don't know yet, Like I don't know why.
I know why teams aren't interested. And it's the money
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thing in the length that's always what it is. If
you're not the generational type players. It seems like right now,
you're not gonna be getting that length. But at the
same time, like this dude in this met's lineup would
do absolute wonders. I know it would be like a
little left left handed heavy, but at the same time,
don't really care. Kyle Tucker. Is that good?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
No, And we also got another pretty interesting note from
the Will Salm and Ken roseenvel article. This is this
is the winter of Will Will Salmon's specific I will
shoutout Will, so if you guys have not been reading
every single word that Will Salmon is writing on the
Athletic this winter, like you're missing out because he's on
top of everything. But another again strange line about this
perception that Kyle Tucker is not exactly in love with
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the game of baseball, or not that he's not in
love with the game baseball, just the fact he doesn't
really want the spotlight. It was about a link between
Kyle Tucker and the Dodgers. Yes, Tucker on say, a
four year deal with opt outs and a massive AAV
would be a classic Andrew Friedman ad Andrew for me
the Dodgers President Baseball Operations. The idea also might appeal
to Tucker's low key personality rather than the center of attention.
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He would perhaps be the Dodgers' fifth or sixth biggest star.
So pulling two things from that. One, we have a
rumor about the Dodgers and the Mets and Kyle Tucker
on the same day. So let's let's stroke, let's try
and get some let's try and get some more money
on that contract. Two would be the same situation with
the Mets. He would be the third guy that people
look at in terms of star power, even in his
own starting lineups. It's if that is something that he
might want, we can also satisfy that craving.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, it's weird. You always get nervous about the guys
who don't apparently love the spotlight, and New York City
is the spotlight. The only other bigger one would be
the Dodgers, but because they have all the mega mega
superstars on that team, it is a little bit different.
But he is. He's just so good. Again. I really
come back to the idea of if the met are
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truly interested, if David Sertins is truly interested, I do.
I think we have a very good shot. I don't
remember what the percentage that I want that I put
him down for But when we mentioned those three guys,
I said, what like thirty three percent? And I think
you got even more aggressive. I think you said like
forty or fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I said forty. I'm just I'm just still expecting some
level of a splash, like whether it be Tucker or Framber.
We just know this Mets team is going to spend
more money right now.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They have to. Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The guaranteed players on the roster are only set to
make two hundred and forty four million dollars, and we've
all the arbitration guys that will get it added into that.
We have the dead money from Nemo, Jeff Frankie Montas,
which is which comes out to another like thirty million dollars.
But there's money to add, Like, I don't really expect
to go into the season undred three hundred million dollars,
and this of course will put those way over three
hundred million dollars. But we've ever since Eve come and
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Bay the team, we've been the top three pay roll team.
Like I don't I don't see that. I don't see
that stopping. And there's so many players available, him being
the best one, the contract coming closer to where the
Mets want to live like it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It just seems like it's kind of working out that
way a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It also feels like the longer we wait, it's just
it's gonna reach It's gonna reach a price point that
the Mets are gonna like. It's also gonna reach a
price point that the Dodgers are gonna like. So then
they'll go, yeah, they'll go bidding against each other again
at some point. But as every day ticks closer and
closer to spring training, it does point more. I feel
like in the Mets favor to bring in a guy
like Kyle Tucker, and the idea of having a one
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two three in this lineup of being Lindor, Soto and Tucker.
That's that's arguably one of the best one two threes
in baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And again, is this a pipe tream right now? Probably yeah,
but why not, Like, if you're into it, you're into it.
And the fact that there's a very good report or
reports of the Blue Jays team that's been the perceived
favorite after the Blue Jay's pulled in because Zumo Okamola
over the weekend, who now they're saying is probably going
to be the super utility man that lends itself more
that they probably favor Bobaschet, possibly because they might get
(06:51):
a shorter deal on him over Kyle Tucker. And all
of a sudden, the markets dries up fast for all
these guys kind of when one science, but they also
get more competitive for everybody else. It's it's strange offseason. Still, Yeah,
it's a strange offseason.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Also, there is there's nothing going on, Like I wish
I could have more juice for you guys, but there's
This is the point of the off season every single
year where normally James goes to Taiwan or Thailand or wherever.
Where do you go Philippines last year, Yeah, with the
Southeast Asia last year, Thailand and Vietnam. But like, at
the same time, there's there's nothing, there's nothing. We have
(07:23):
to take every single bit of news that we have
and talk about. And we've always said that Kyle Tucker
on a short term deal made sense for the Mets.
He makes sense for every single team in baseball, and
the fact that we have a little inkling of that,
we got to run with it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Cody Bellinger, Fan Bravaldez, Like the Mets are probably going
to be involved with these guys, like we've been telling
you guys all winter, like at the price points and
to your point before about not a lot going on
in this part of the off season right now, but
still a lot could potentially happen. Did you catch the
other Will Salmon article that went on The Athletic on Monday?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
No, I don't, I just I know. The other big
Mets news is that we signed Christian Arroyo for former
top prospect Christian Arroyo. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, the parade starts now Christian Royo about it's gonna
be the unbelievable shortstop of Syracuse. But it was a
mail bag article from Will and Tim Brittle. Okay, it
was a lot about the chaos of the Mets right now.
This is the first question was about the political climate
in the clubhouse. And there were questions about, you know,
is this a reset year? And there was another big
question something we've kind of alluded to in the past,
(08:25):
and this comes from Robs.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Steve Cohen was sold to us.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
As a lifetime fan of the Mets, but specifically losing
someone like Pete Alonzo's enormous gut punch has actually turned
my children off from the team. There's no way to
argue that team will be better without Pete, at least
for the next three or four seasons. Why the Mets,
specifically Cohen not value Pete and Tim went into a
bit of a diatribe about the fact that Steve wasn't exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The biggest Met fan growing up.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, it was more of Alex Steve, you know, kind
of a loser baseball fan, Yankees nicks like that kind
of thing. I thought that was interesting, an interesting little
Talian article like this. Lots lots of good, good tidbits
in this article. So also, like, do you think is
realistic that we can get Frambervaldez ranger swaz to a
long term deal and will Samon goes a long deal
for Valdrez.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yet, Like what that's That's one thing to talk about too,
is again the obsession with Mets fans and the starting pitching.
And again, we know what happened. It would be tone
deaf for us to think that starting pitching wasn't a
major reason why we didn't make the playoffs last year.
But again, doesn't mean we should go crazy and give
Framber Valde as a contract that you're gonna regret. Definitely
doesn't mean we should go crazy and give Ranger Swaz
a contract that we should go get. Unfortunately, for the players,
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the teams have all the leverage in the current climate
of the free agent market right now, Like the teams
don't have to sign you. You need to sign with
a team in order to get paid US currency next year.
The longer they wait, the less power that these guys have,
Like there's no reason for the Mets to jump the gun.
We know Frambervalde is gonna be good next year. We
know Ranger Swarez is gonna be good next year. We
even have an inkling that a guy that the Mets
(09:51):
missed out on that we haven't talked about on here yet,
Tatsui and I, was probably gonna be pretty good, better
than what the Mets had last season. Yes, but at
the same time, it's about the contract, what it looks
like in the future, and there there's just bigger plans
for this team.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think, possibly even true with Kazuma Okamoda. I keep
getting confused because talk about these things in the wind up.
I know we haven't done a Mets up in like
a week.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Since then, it's been a full like almost like eight
or nine days since we recorded I think an episode
for Mets up, because we did a lot before we
you know, the new year, like all the Japanese players
are moving on what looked like very very attainable contracts
like Emai's was dirt cheap, Okamotos is gonna end up
being cheap. Murakami was basically nothing. That was a coin
flip at that point. Like these contracts also kind of
(10:32):
tells you where the rest of baseball felt for these
guys too, Like this isn't just the Mets being anti
them or being afraid to give out the money for
these guys.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Totally, especially a guy like Imai, where he theoretically signed
a one year, seventeen million dollar contract, it can go
up to twenty one.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Million dollars with his with his why what's it called.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I can't remember the escalators escalator's incentives for throwing more
innings or he cannot back in if he doesn't do that,
and it could be a max max three year, sixty
three million dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That's like Taiwan Walker money.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's like the Luis Severino guy again from a team
that doesn't spend money.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Same abe as Franky mantzas last year. But it's like,
that's that's kind of the sense of who tas, who.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
AMAI is right now.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I know that the initial projections of him to start
the offseason we're closing in an eight for two hundred,
wound up being nowhere even remotely in the same not
even the same ballpark, and I have the same state,
they the sound, the same galaxy as that.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The Boys had that first guy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But even still even up to the last week, I
was like, he probably still gets four or five year deal. Yes,
that part's fair, and maybe maybe other teams were in
on Yimai, but the fact that the Astros often the
opportunity to go into the free market one year later,
maybe that was a deciding factor. But also we kind
of had reports that Me's didn't even seem kind of interested,
Yankees didn't even seem kind of interested. Two teams that
could really use a starting pitcher with a milecame of
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upside and a nice floor.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Along with all the other teams major League Baseball that
could use starting pitching.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Every single team like these.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The other thing that happens as part of the offseason
is that the guys with the qualifying offers are just
stuck in the mud. Like I know Bellingium Regman don't
have them, but everybody else It's just like, Wow, these
teams do not want to sacrifice the assets, the draft pick,
the International slop pool money, especially the teams like the Mets.
They're going to be over the luxury tax because the
sharper penalty. It's it's it's really it's just slow right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was really so slow. It is an absolute slog
Is there is there anything that people can look forward to?
Do we have anything?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, I mean we've got Bill Madden, that's sure.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bill Madden did tell us like because uh, one of
the aggregators tweet. Aggregators have been on fire this week.
I'll tip the cap. Oh awesome, some of the best
slop that I've seen in a really long time. We
got one comparing the Mets and the Yankees and be like,
I think the Mets might actually be better than the Yankees,
and everyone's like, who cares, it doesn't matter. They don't
compete with each other. But Bill Madden quote tweeted about
(12:46):
the rosters and it was like, you know this Mets
team's not too far off from being better than the Yankees.
And we've said something like what stay tuned, stay tuned, Yeah,
which Bill Madden. Bill Madden's been early and right to
basically every massive piece of news in the Mets world,
like the last two or three years, when and when
no one else has leaks like this is kind of
what winds up happening.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But again, like I can't lose the fact in my
mind that the Mets are going to do things like
the Mets going to and again I.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Think they will.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think there's a lot of Mets fans right now
that kind of want to be doing me and gloomy.
And that's fair, for sure, everyone can do whatever they want,
Like that's okay, but there's just there's so many free
agents on the market right now.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like what's really cool about what's going on right now
is that if you are dooming gloom you can kind
you can kind of forget about the Mets for like
a week or two and like relax and not this podcast,
not this podcast. You always listen to us, of course,
but like you theoretically like probably could turn off your
Mets brain except for the Mets. The podcast for about
two weeks, and you wouldn't miss anything, I don't think again,
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you'd be missing like Christian Arroyo getting signed.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, And like we're not even getting like the depth
bullpen signings right now still and we still have a
very incomplete bullpen. But this is a very this is
traditionally a slow week because this is the last week
of arbitration figures being exchanged. So this probably is a
week we're a little bit less than we all often
expect could be happening. But there's there's like a hundred
war left projected war left on players in the free
agent market right now. Like it's a really still quite
(14:08):
a good class with a lot of impact players out there.
And again it still starts and ends with Kyle Tucker.
Like at worst with Kyle Tucker. I really think the
floor on a five year deal for Kyle Tucker is
like thirty percent better than the league average.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
With the bat, it's like a five win player and.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
A slightly below average defender. Yeah probably, Yeah, Like I'll
see a fight. He was a five win player last
year and he wasn't even that good for half of
the season and he missed three weeks through the injury
two years ago. He was a five win player. He
was a four win player. He only played seventy eight games.
Like this is I don't know. I think the I
think the world's overthinking Kyle Tucker a tiny bit right now.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
This is the weird spot where like we love eggs
of you Loo, we love baseball savant, we love seeing
that stuff, and I think it's good. But at times
for a guy who like I don't think Kyle Tucker
does anything bad. Right, there's no real bad numbers from
Kyle Tucker. He just might not have the elite, elite
elite stuff that you see, but the numbers have just
been good year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It is strange that his bat speed has drifted like
it's just it's just not elite like you want to
see elite bat speed. Like it's kind of oscillly between
like seventy one and a half and seventy two and
a half for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You'd like, also, bet we also know that that can change.
The Blue Jays just did it. They took the corpse
of George Springer's body and he just all of a
sudden became an elite hitter again.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think cale Talker's played. He played most of last
year injured. He said that like he got crapped the
year before because he didn't play through what was a
bit of a we don't know how bad that ashers
are weird with that stuff. Yeah, it seemed like a
take attack injury, a hairline fraction of shame.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We don't really know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And then last year he had the again another I
don't know why this guy keeps getting airline fractures, but.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe that was scared.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Not enough milk on this slide the second phase, the
hairline fraction on the top of his hand, and he
didn't hit on the run for like months after Again
he was on almost a forty home run pace in
a difficult park for left handed hitters to home run
off of the year before, when through the first half
of the season he was on a forty home run pace.
Maybe maybe he just got a lot better and we
didn't realize because of weird circumstances the last two years.
Like it'd be such a steal to get him again,
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like a five for two it would be. And again
he could play the outfield for a few years, and
you want you want to pick up a first basement
in two years.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Us.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, it doesn't mean he did a lot through the minors.
He did in twenty nineteen for a little while. Like
there's also does he play left field?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
A right field?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Again?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't care who cares, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
He could play left. He's definitely good enough to do it.
I don't think so of the is good enough to
play left. But it's just, oh god, we need I
need some juice, right, I need some action from this
Mets team.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I just want some I want some signings.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm trusting the process, but man, I want something to
go down. Even that rumor that went out but the
Yankees Edward Cabrera that people were like obsessed with that
for eight hours, and Craig Mish Marlins beat rather was like,
it's not even close to having what are you guys
talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like, no, this is not going on. It's just
the the baseball world is starred for news, and I
can't I can't wait for the conversations from people like
we need a free agent deadline, all the all the
nonsense rumors and takes that are gonna come out. No,
bad can't do that to the players, they will literally
never make any money.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
No, and again, just go back to this. Everyone should
read again both these Will Salmon articles, this one with
Tim Britton.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Maybe we gotta get Will on. Maybe this's what we
do see if we can get will on this week.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Love to reach out to will see and get him on.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you think sterns and cohen Ce twenty twenty six
out of a transition year from Marquez and Tim goes
On The day he was introduced as the Mets present
base operations October twenty twenty three, Stern said, I don't
know that I would ever say that year here should
be a recent year.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think that's a good reminder for all of us.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yes, because we still have one so over Cisco Lindor
and then Tim expanded.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Would look like it would be a recent year.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
In twenty twenty four ended with the team's best season
in the last decade. This is the changing of the
guard season. But when the Mets still feel should include
postseason play, yea, that is where we're at.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I totally think that. I I don't know where people
have gotten the idea that the Mets are not interested
in being the postseason not trying to be a postseason
team that seemingly came out of nowhere, and I got
to assume it's coming from the mutants on a WFA N. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I think that's fully Joe Biningo
doing that, right, it's shout out Joebeningo though. I mean,
the guy was like an insane caller who became a
radio host. I love Jobingo, Joepiningo got me through my
(17:54):
my maybe not the best guy, no what maybe not
the best guy, but okay, the best guy. That's not
what I as a radio host when yeah, like twenty
three years old, delivering pizza.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was like, I love listening to joke Ingo. Oh
he's he's an absolute, he's entertainment. He's entertainment to the fullest. Yeah,
And just there's just this it's hard to get past
this impatience though. Right now, you really just want something
to happen, You really want something to be done. Like
what's like if you look at the regular figures of
the Mets world right now. The thing is they've been
tweeting recently. It's just it's just sad.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Maybe maybe this is when we get back on the metstuff.
Twitter and see what we can get away with.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right now, we'll just start crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, want to like plan a tweet on the podcast.
See if people get in on the joke. What's something
that we're gonna tweet in the next week. You come
up with one, I'll come up with one.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We can say something about like is this the Mets
new starting ace or METSI a new starting picture? Is
just that picture of grim is is holding the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's a good one. I like that, something that's good.
I think. I think definitely a mock trade goes in
there where I'm I'm gonna include Kevin Parata. There's no
doubt Kevin Parata for a good player for Freddie Peralta.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, Kevin Parada, Kevin Prava and Matthew Allen who's not
in the organization anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
For Freddie Parolta.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm and I'm definitely on that. That's a good one
we do.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Can we do one more joke?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
How about like the Mets need to bring back Jose Gleasias.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yes, or I heard the Mets need a left handed
or right handed hitting outfielder and Jose Iglacias shragg and
fly balls there he goes go.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
One, Hey, look at us. If we just want to tweet,
we could just think about a couple right there on
the spot.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's how it works. You guys just saw the intermachinations
of our brains.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh but just man, something's gotta happen. I just want something.
The whole league wants something to happen right now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just for some context, we we're gonna be putting out
episodes we have to.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's that's how this works.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
If you guys have any ideas for something creative and
fun that you would like to see, tweet at us,
hit us up on Instagram. Let us know in the
comment section. We were happy to get some great Maybe
maybe this is out of the park Baseball week.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Maybe that's what this is that could be out of
the park baseball. We could be an idea for guests.
If you guys have ideas for guests, let us know
in the comments. If you go, especially guests that we've
had on the past, guys like Trevor may Well, Sam
and Daniel Murphy. Guys that we are connected with. Just
you guys, let us know what you want to hear,
because we will keep.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The content coming.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I I don't know what's gonna be no clue and
if if there's anybody out there with an inkling of anything,
let us know you can come on through. Why not?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Please again? Maybe that could be a mailback episode of
the People, another voicem episode. It's been a while for Oh,
voicemails could be good. So we'll do in the hopper
right and now just just let you guys know. Love
the transparency we're doing with you guys, that's the best.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean, we have to find a way to talk
about something.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And pull up the new members shoutouts, who oh we
want to do those two got an insane amount so
many members.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Thank you guys all so much for that.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
But just so probably a guest soon an out of
the park baseball and what was the other one we
just said, and some kind of mailbag voicemail episode.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, let's pull up the mets up members. Really good
podcasting here, just talking to you guys through it. We
got so many appreciate you guys. Remember if you are
a member, you get access to the videos early. And
I know the Prospect one was just sitting for members
only for forever and which was your fault? That was
my fault. I forgot to upload it all right. Uh,
let's see the last update. When do you think we
(20:53):
last read out members.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It's definitely before the prospects of Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'm trying to and it's probably the eighteen days ago.
I think was probably the last group. So we're gonna
go through. We were up to eighty members. Appreciate you, guys.
Shout out Reggie Hank, m Meon, John Saint Clair, Daniel Godley,
h l Oh, Let's go Rangers, Let's go Mets, Andrew Spagnolo,
Matt Michael Levinson, road Castello, K Game, r x I,
(21:23):
d x L, Josewey, Reyes, Meddi one one five C
C Cruiser, Ration's cousin. I gotta make sure these are
safe to say online. David Baumel I am serious, ghost
Killer n I shout out ghost Face Killer, LFGM, Colin Bryan, Joshua, Margolize,
Kevin Westfall Wave a FI Wreck, you got in there,
(21:44):
wreck reck Rekia, Rekkia, Stimson Kyler. I think he got
on the last one, but you're a legend. Coops MZ
eight f Y. Thank you guys all so much for
being members. We really do appreciate it. And that's it.
We got nothing else. There's there's nothing else we could
talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
No, that's it. We got twenty five minutes out of it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Though.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And again everyone read those two Will Sam articles. They're
both gold.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, I'll link them. I'll link them to the description.
Guys can click those there if you want to read them.
Shout out, well, there's no way you're gonna link in
the description. We'll find out. We'll find out. And if
we don't, I want to see comments. Apparently I didn't
like to link the discord either last time, so I'll
go down there. You need reminders. That's it, guys, Subscribe, listen,
follow James, James, Giana Draftnick Mark. We'll see you guys
next time.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Peace out, go Metz
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