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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome to a new episode of My Candicass. I'm Candidad
and I'm Groovy. On today's episode, we have two special guests,
owner and founder of Flows, Timmy, and partner in sales Austin.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Thank you, welcome to the recording. I say, I don't know,
I said stream here now. Well, welcome y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, thank you both for joining us. Austin's in studio.
We got Timmy virtually. I appreciate you joining us. I
wasn't able to make it down, but let's get let's
get some background information into both of who you are. So, Timmy,
what got you started into the scene or into the industry,
and then we'll ask you go walle jump right to you.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Austin, so start smoking and high school. Im meiately fell
in love. Tried to grow a plant at my parents'
house in the closet my senior year.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Didn't last too long. Immediately shut that.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Down, and I then moved into my brother's house at
Wayne State where we built out the grow room in
the closet and really start to tamper and play with
growing weed.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
And I was back in two thousand and eight. Yeah,
it was I was one of the very first people
grabbing my med cars and got my twelve plans and
immediately signed five people on as caregivers and tried to
do it as legal as I possibly could. This was
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definitely like in a time where nobody really knew the laws,
and I don't even think police knew what the laws were.
I had been pulled over many times with weed in
the car as a MED patient, harassed, and eventually found
myself in jail. In twenty twelve, I was pulled over
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with copious amon weed and spent eight months in Agama
County up here in West Branch. I was traveling home
from my greenhouse and as you know, seventy two plants
in the greenhouse ends up with a few more than
your a lot at fifteen ounces.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, I mean a little bit mud.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
So that was back in twenty twelve.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
And what led me into flows cannabis was I had kids.
In twenty eighteen, I had my first son. Seeing that
the MAD program had already failed me, I had already
spent time in jail. I served a printed prison sentence.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I sat really how long it was it was eight months?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
It was, yeah, So but I served in County Jail
because I didn't want to go to person.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I didn't want to go to Jackson.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
I had heard horror stories of Jackson, and I was
doing everything I could not end up there.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So, I mean, County is not a vacation though, you know,
I did, I did. I did a night or there
for a DUI Happy birthday to me, my first birthday.
But yeah, no, so that's some that's still some time. Man,
that's over some cannabis. And it's like the I mean,
I understand, you know, you were over or whatever, but
like it was that that was a gray area of
time in general, you know what I mean. So people
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were really pushing it way more than that. People were
having like multiple houses like it's legal, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, definitely going as well.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know, how many houses can we fill with some
me too plants? How many caregiver cards can we have?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Help?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
We had a caregiver card, help many you know.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I got my dad's friends, all these old people signing
up you know again crop, you know, just happy old clams.
But yeah, so I had kids. I didn't I didn't
want them to miss any time with their dads. So
I started looking.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Into the metric.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I had already been pretty in the scene with a
lot of these people. A lot of my friends ended
up in metric. A lot of my friends Open Dispensary
is other friends open growth. So I luckily had some
people to kind of talk to and help me guide
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some of the things that you had to navigate and
jump through when starting a metric company, because it's no
easy task and it's confusing as hell, and even to
this day, they changed the laws every day. Well, you
never know if you're doing the right thing or not,
you know, And they don't make it as easy to
find out if you're doing the right thing until they
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give you the five thousand dollars fine, because that seems
to be about the minimum right now that they that
they find it's just like five gramd, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And I feel like they're looking at the wrong things too,
Like I feel like the CRA spends a lots and
again like not you know, I'm not trying to just
be calling out the CRA here, but I feel like
they spend a lot of time like on phone calls
or like filling up on things that it's like like
I don't know where there's so many misregulation as is,
and like you said, miss miscommunication of what's changing in law,
Like there's so many things that need to be worked
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on rather than just trying to screw over the medium
people in the middle. You know.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
You know, it took me three years to actually come
to market, a year to plan. I had bought this
building with renters in it who have a rental contract
for another year until they were actually planning on moving out.
So it kind of worked out that they were gonna
rent for the year while I did all my application
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and paperwork. The next year was building out, and we
got it pretty much all the way outfit it until
the last six months when my electrical contractor told us
our huge transformer got delayed like six months. Uh so
then we were just kind of sitting here with no
electricity for six months. Finally got electricity, went through the
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final permits, and two years later building We got our
license on July fourth of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So you're coming up on three years extra.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, that's right. Three years. It's like doing the math here.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Congratulations us.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
What about What about you, Austoin? We got you in
the cannabis and how did you get connected? Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
To me? And flos. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
So first off, how I got you know, connected to
this plant was it was honestly always spoken like against
me because my father was in law enforcement, like my
whole life one, so I heard the worst if I
even touched the plant. And then my sister moved to
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Colorado and uh had been out there in the scene
and my brother smoke made it always obvious before we
went over Grandma's house and munched out on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I was like the last person to like touch it.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
But it was my junior year in high school, and
then you know, I was like what why is this
like so stigmatized and what's what's the problem with this?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And you know, the first time I smoked, I don't
think I got high. But then.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
You know, your first gram last year a week and
and you're like, whoa, you know, like how did a
graham last me a week?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know it is crazy to think about that, like
a bowl, like I could just take a couple of hits,
and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, now we're all smoking doughnuts.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Exist you're smoking.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
You guys have a three and a half gram?
Speaker 10 (08:23):
Yeah, the joint, Yeah, they're so so good.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
So with my dad being in law enforcement, me wanting
to be a law abiding citizen, got my med card
right away.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I had actually I.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Threw my arm through a window in college, and I
actually like have a terrible scar in the back of
my arm, so like I do have like muscle tension
and spasms, and like those creams and bombs actually really
do help. So that was like the true medicinal reason why,
Like I got my card from a foolish decision that
I made.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
A window drunk, almost like my whole pink you tend to.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
You know, I was playing a lot of grand left
at that time, and I didn't want anything in the car.
I just you know, the guy did it so easily,
and I thought, you.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Know, did you choose it because you didn't want to
do the prescription pill route?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You want to go?
Speaker 8 (09:14):
Oh yeah, I mean at this point I was already
a consumer, and after I had sutures that literally left.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Scars on my tricep.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
You know.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Yeah, it's crazy. So many people see it, they're like, well,
what the hell happened? I mean, or they just don't ask,
But I, uh, that's that's the story, you know, And
those creams and bombs actually like really helped me a lot.
And I like to stay active, and you know those
allow me like the full range most and without like
feeling discomfort.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
So use it all still because.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I definitely definitely there's there's there's
times where it's it's outfield or it's just completely numb.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's kind of weird.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
But uh so with my sister being in Colorado, me
get my med card, I got my degree at Central
Michigan University, got my degree in entrepreneurship. I was the
kid that was traveling through Lansing, which was the old
Green Mile. They had like twenty dispensaries within like two
mile radio so you hit this one, hit that one
that was you know, free patient first time, this first
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time that So I really was so passionate about the experience,
the knowledge, the education, you know what each place had
to like offer, you know where the energy, the vibe,
which is then later why I joined like the retail
scene before I got into wholesale. But it was my
mentor professor from Central Michigan University who really.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Took note to me.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
I was his kid senior in class representing Gypsy Vodka
and he was just like dude, I gotta know this kid,
he's literally growing a business right now and representing these guys,
and he was like, I want you to run my
sales team. It was a project that never came to fruition,
but we were one of the first class C license
that got like Reward did. It was crazy, Like I
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still am connected and talked to a few of those
guys on that project, but yeah, I was right down
the street from like Highlight Farms. It was an opportunity
that I say was was fumbled because you know in
this industry, like you need the honesty, you need the
genuine you.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Need you need the energy.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
And and and that's just where you know your vibe
attracts your tribe. And that's kind of what you know,
me going through all these challenges like I've I've been
hit with legal in this stuff. I'm not even mentioning
any names, but like noncompete stuff like season just this
after me, like just too much stuff to where it's
like I know that people are like, how is he
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still here? I got connected through Timmy just word of mouth,
so I had the ability to represent put on brands,
live and breathe it as if it was my own
Timmy offered me that ownership equality opportunity to join him
put the hat on Resent Flows Cannabis, which I do
so proudly.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So yeah, man, And that's the thing you said. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Would you say your vibe attracts your tribe? Always say
birds of a feather flock together, right, I like that.
So it's like you're with your people, you know. And
like speaking of that, like let's talk a little bit
about Flows and the team, Like how big is your
team over there? And Flows? And like I.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Started, Yeah, I like Timmy touch on that. It is
Timmy's team, man, He's he's put the pieces together.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah. So there's four of us here on the daily.
I am usually here.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I had another girl here this morning with me as
he came in for a few hours to help me
fill some jars and do some stickers. And then there's
Teddy and Leah. Teddy's my other green thumb. He comes
from a growing background living soil.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
He did a big.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Thousand plant farm down on the Southwest Side with some
some living soil, so he came up. He's actually Leah's
other half. Leah has been shrimming with me since I
went to prison. Jail, prison, whatever. So she's been with
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me since twenty twelve. She's my fastest trimmer. I've always
had her come up, had her stay hether live with me.
She lived with me for six months when I finally
bought a house up here in Traverse City. And then
when my renter moved out of my cabin and Grayling
where that greenhouse was, her and her boyfriend moved in
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there so I had some more hands and eyes so
I could hopefully spend some more time with my family.
And you know, really cherished this time with my kids
as they're growing and take some load off.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
It's awesome to find a team you trust, you know,
folks on things that matter.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I love the smallnit team you guys have. That's really
cool to see that, especially when you have these comanis
got like thousands employees and you guys are coming in
with heat like five, five six employees.
Speaker 9 (14:07):
You just said to me, that's that's remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah. There's my mom too, who's the CPA.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
She's account.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
You know, she she has helped me with everything from
starting the business. She still does our book caping and payroll,
so she is the numbers pusher. I am dyslexic. So
you've been doing some metric stuff. I have been known
to mix up some numbers. So, uh, you know, luckily
everybody understands we're a small group.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
But they got my number. Call me up, you know,
we'll figure it out. Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Just the communication is key in this industry, I mean
in life in general.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
You know, I have the truth.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
Man, A good question. What's the meaning behind the name flows?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
So flows means the prime state of something in Latin.
It's on the bottom of all of our ape bags.
It's actually up on the post right there. It also
means flour and blossom and the best part of something.
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My wife came up with it. I'm not gonna lie.
I just I have a passion for growing weed. I've
been around this plant forever and I felt like I've
gotten so deep with the roots with this plant that
there's no reason to turn back now. I truly do
love spending my time here at the facility, getting here
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in the morning, seeing the girls, seeing the plants, the girls,
and just vibing out with them, you know, throwing my
headphones on, giving them water. It's a peaceful it's a
peaceful stay at work. It is worked, though I mean
this last week, I've worked seven twelve hour days. So
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there there is weeks where I am just trenching down
hard and getting through it because you know, that's why
I gotta do as owner. When you got fifty pounds
a weed that you need trimmed up, and you gotta
get them jarred up after, you know, and you got
people who work other jobs and come in and help
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me afterwards. So some days I'm here from eight until
ten at night, so it's with no light toll so
it's the.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Bottom end of the iceberg that people don't see.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
Shirt.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's nice to be an owner, and oh I'm an entrepreneur.
I'm an owner, but it's like all that grind and hustle.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah, checking in when you're sick, checking in when you
don't want to check in, but you know, just you
gotta check in.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Especially with these plants. They don't give a fuck what
you got.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Going on, don't care it's a holiday exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
They all know it's Christmas. Yeah, they all know your
kids right now. So but you know, if you can
set this, I then find a loving family who's willing
to accept that.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Luckily I got a very accepting life and she knows
what I got you, So you know, it's finding the
right people. Like I said, my team has been around
this plant forever and they all have a passion for it.
They're not just here to smoke the weed. They're here
because they actually love the plant and love what they do.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, passion pushes forward like that you're talking about that
you're growing. Timmy Austin brought in some strains here. We're
about to spark up the wago. So as we sparked
this up, I got a couple of grow questions as
a grower here myself. Got to know if you don't mind,
like what's like your grow medium? You said you have
a guy that did leaving soil before. Is that what
you're currently doing? Or do you do cocoa? A couple
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of lights, you run and then we're gonna spark this
up and then uh yeahright.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
So we are a mainly cocoa base. We got fair light,
some pete moss in there. We do add some amendments,
silica acids, some different azos and microbes and what that
just allows us to do is not pump our nutrients
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so hard. We do run a synthetic nutrients front row ag,
but it allows us to not really pump a high easy.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
It also allows us to do a quick wash off.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
With having that cocoa base, so if anything does start
to get too out of parameter, we can flood the
nutrient base pretty well where we're actually like rinsing the
medium through and resetting its components. Other than that, we
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do a couple of microbialt's every week because we don't
spray our plants with any pesticides. We use all beneficial bugs,
Nema toads, persilious uh.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
All these.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, there's three bugs and pretty much one goes in
the root, one hangs on the plant, and the other
is sprinkled on top of the dirt. And those are
like our little soldiers that walk through the room and
make sure nobody else gets in there that shouldn't be
in there. They starve out for yeah, yeah, like a
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little sashl Yeah. So we get them from biobast biobes
and they work great, they really do. So with not
spraying anything on the plant, I just think it's a
little cleaner, that's all. Other than that, just TLC keeping
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it clean, keeping the love on the plant. A lot
of the time when the girls don't have anything to do.
I just tell them to go tell every plant that
you love them, and they look beautiful. They're doing great.
You know, spend your last hour praying to the plant.
We do try to, you know, I appreciate our energy.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, it's real. You really love the plant.
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You can tell just how you speak about the plant,
you know, and that obviously, you know, it trinkles down
to your whole team within.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
The quality of the flower too.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Right there.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
I mean that's already got a oil line.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Tastes good, it's clean ash, smooth hitting, and you can
see that just by what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
So yeah, I was just going off what you were saying, groopy,
But yeah, flowers good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Did I miss this earlier? Did you say how long
you've been growing for to me? I don't know if
I missed.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Since since two thousand and eight, And that's not successfully
by any means.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Well, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
My brother got a car accident two thousand and ten.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I moved out to.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
New Mexico to kind of cope with that. I as
a ski instructor. I lived with my dad's friends who
grew in their garage. They had a twenty like row
in their garage, and they really showed me what you
could do when you control the atmosphere. They had the
CO two, the humidifiers, the d humidifiers, They had a
like a real setup room. You know. It wasn't like
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what we have now by any means. You know, they
still had wood in their rooms, and there was still
a lot learning back in twenty ten. There wasn't the
information besides, like the Edward Charlson book, which, like you know,
if you've read that, it's yeah, yeah, the grow Bible, yeah,
which you know, it's a lot of information to take
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in and to decipher and to actually apply. So you know,
and I'm a hands on learner in general. You show
me how to do something, I can usually do it
for the rest of my life. I got like a
mental GPS in my head. If I've been to your
house once, I can go to there forever. But yeah,
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so well brought those methods back. My dad's in construction.
I built houses my entire life to pay taxes, so
that gave me a little up on building grow rooms.
Started building basements around match of Detroit. By the time
I went to prison, jail whatever, I had eight growhouses
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with different partners and people and Metro and I had
bought a twelve acre cottage up in Grailing where we
put a greenhouse, a pole barn, and essentially added up
to thirty lights eventually. So I've been running all over
the place on this plant for a long time, just
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juggling mistakes. Really learning from my failures is what has
made my successes.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
You have a grow I was gonna ask something because
it exist a tail onto like when you say growing
and learning from your successes, you know, just it just
is there any information you could pay forward to any
of like the younger entrepreneurs or younger growers out there,
as you like, any like little information or tips just
because like, as you say, you're learning, like what you
know what I mean? Because I feel like there's a
lot of people out there trying to either get an
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industry or just learning to grow. I mean, I guess
that's two separate things, so maybe take those separately. But
you know, I just any education because you've been in
the game a while, so you know what I mean.
I'm sure there's younger cats out there would appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Yeah, So I think like the biggest thing if you
want success is keeping your atmosphere and the right parameters
that the plant is. And if you're trying to pump
your plant with a bunch of nutrients a bunch of
light and you don't actually have the right vapor pressure down,
so you don't have the right CO two pressure. If
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you don't have the right parameters, you're just wasting money
and pumping it through the plant.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Uh, if you really want to see results and you
want to see numbers and really like pump your plan up,
you need to have the right paramelere is in the
room going, not just what's going through your root zone.
A lot of people think it's nutrients, a lot of
people I think it's time, But it's really every little
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detail and keeping track of those little details.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Is key.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
There is a million different ways to grow. There's a
million different ways to get amazing weed. We've grown living
soil in my greenhouse forever. Uh and it you're actually
right though, That's why it's like there's no best medium.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's like you got to figure out what works for you, your schedule,
your consistency, your atmosphere, you're you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's I've gone through so I try I used to
do Coco, and at that point I do better living
soil than I do Coco. I've had better success with
it for me, just so I've stuck with living soil
over Coco.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
I've tried to hydro back when I first started. That
was not good. That was not good.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
My first was in a little closet I bought off
a High Times magazine.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I mean, my buddies used to general hydro with fucking
ten ten gallon deep war culture slap bigger numbers than
any of us could ever slap. You know, I've never
done the deep war culture, honestly, because I've seen what
happens when the seal breaks.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Uh, you know, his top top floor.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Of his house, and you know that happened, one hundred
gallons of water going through your top floor of your house.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Talk about it wasn't deep water. But my friend, when
he was learning, in his learning stage of growing hydro,
he basically did it in some little tiny box in
his closet. And I didn't really know the parameters of
what he was doing. But then it cracked, and then
it linked all into my kitchen ceiling and into the
lighting fixture where it's like it's it's never worked really
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the same. So that's cool. Yeah, but no, I feel,
you know, that's that's stagous. When you said that at
the top level, I just had like a minor like.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
A yeah, yeah, super cool.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Not growing either and it's just your house that was fun. No,
But anyways, No, but that's crazy. I could imagine, especially
deep water that's like a lot of water, like a
lot of water.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, I guess the other biggest thing is like, don't
have ass anything.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Austin says it all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
You know, like if you want to grow plants, you
got to come in every day, come in with the
cracked energy and like you know, you're gonna give up
the next seventy days of your life if you really
want to give it what it needs. You know, if
you want the best product coming in and now, you
got to just be there. Not not a lot of
work all the time, not long days all the time,
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but those those simple checks are.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Well a going make or breaking.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
You know, parameters, My my pH on my water fluctuates
every week. I I can't explain why, but I am
constantly messing with, you know, my intake.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
So yeah, we understand that.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I love how on top of you are on all
the whole growth aspect and everything.
Speaker 9 (27:02):
That's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Don't do half ass, whole ass he don't.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Be a whole ass.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So then you're doing the grow side and doing all
the God makes sure the product's good qualities there we
got Austin, so you're doing sales. So how is it
selling for flows? Like the product? How is it There's
so much flour out there in the market standing out
with on shelving to competing against other brands either high
price market, low price market.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
How is it out there?
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Honestly, it's the belief. It's not just the belief and
the product. It's the belief and everything that Timmy and
the team is doing there, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And it starts from the top down. He sets the.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Tone over there and we have to come correct, like
all angles twenty four to seven, you know. So I
am always made available to these people. They can always
call or text me. I'm visiting them as often as
frequently as possible. One thing that I live by is
like make time for people who make time for you,
you know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
So absolutely like that.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
We've honestly been so welcomed, especially with these new jars
and these new designs where people are They're thrilled, they're excited.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
So, yeah, explain this what we have right here.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
What you brought in? Yeah, yeah, on the stand practice Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
No, I brought a couple of flavors that way I go.
We just smoked. It's delicious.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was tasting.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Won't have that just for dinner, but I'll have that
for lunch and breakfast. Timmy's got the jar right there
as well, trying to.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Figure out where this camera is at.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Kind of all over the beach candy with hunting in
the house.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
It's got Papayah in it, Myth Myth farms, our boy Ram,
but he's he's like part of the squad, shout out
and shout out at farms. That beach candy is special.
That is one that we're extremely proud of. I just
want to touch on that too. We're about to smoke
this so we can talk to its flavor and its expression.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This was part of a feenal hunt where.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
You know, in full transparency, we said there there to
be potential to have some seeds in it. We wanted
this to be an engaging thing, you know, with us
being a small business like it was an opportunity for
us to you know, tell the customer, have the stores
tell the customer. And there were some places that we
had moved this product to that had so effectively spoken
(29:34):
to that where the customer was excited.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
They're like, oh man, I want to be a part
of this.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
And Timmy's even offered like, hey, if you've got seeds,
like keep them, like be a part of this project
and final hunting this with us, like we'll literally give
you a hand roll. Like you know, we want to
have fun with the people. We want them to reach
out to us. You know, I tell people all the time,
reach out to weddad Reefer, reach out to me like whatever,
we're open book. Timmy's even said like you want to
see what your we's made of, Like we'll be there.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
So really, you know, having this this brand now, you know,
because we are in this industry and ask like the
sales part.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You can't just grow.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Good weed anymore, That's what I'm saying, you can't, you know,
And that's where giving your brand a feeling an emotional
connection before somebody experiences what's in the jar is like everything,
you know, Like, so Timmy's wife hit a home run
with the logo.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
People really love the flower logo.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
People, your wife did that. That's awesome, that's really cool.
I was actually just admiring the logo itself because I
think I like the visual representation of a brand as
well as the word, and I think tying that together
is cool.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, so she explained to her friend that we want
like a drop down shot of a nug that was
kind of like theeometrical, would be easy to transfer onto
many different platforms.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Man, this is what they came up with.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
But yeah, she's been a pretty big inspiration. She has
about a pintress board that's like ten miles long for
flows and different things to keep my creative juices going.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Who does does Does she do the logos for the
charges ball then too?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh no, so my buddy Evan Burman does. He works
for Gypsy Vodka. Me and Evan Berman have been going
around to music festivals since back in the day.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
He was part of my heyday of.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Running around to festivals selling We two different people listen
to live musical You know, I used to do about
ten or fifteen festivals the summer, going all the way
around the States.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
So yeah, it was a time of life, definitely before kids.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
So he used to run funk you clothing freedom you
now know, And we would go to these festivals and
bend clothes. And as a vendor, you get to bring
in boxes of clothes. So we would bring in boxes
of clothes and go bend for the weekend. But yeah,
(32:21):
they give you like all access pass as a vendor
and you get to go around and meet all the
cool people and give them all the cool weeds and
I'm cool.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Things and uh yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yeah, he's he's a he's a talented guy. Dude, Like,
this guy has been creating. And when when we thought
of the stickers in the brand, I was like, fun clothing, bro,
it's all right there, like the deal.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, I like the I love how you guys have
to break down the lineage on the strain on every jar.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I love that so important to because a lot of
people do well We'll just say they do their packaging,
but they don't include that. It's like, man, people want
to know.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
What that's That's our thing with Evan.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
You know, we're in the group text close creatives whatever.
Timmy and I and Evan are literally bouncing all our ideas.
But it's it's the consistency piece. We've had the Paisley
background from the beginning, and I think the feeling that
people said about us before these jars was Kardashian like sexy, sophisticated, eccentric,
(33:23):
you know, and we we've just tried to stay as
consistent with having the lineage, having is it hybrid, Indica leaning, dominant,
acknowledge where we've won awards, so you'll see, like on
the rainbow belts, it will say the second place high
times cannabis go.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
And speaking that I was gonna say, everyone here is
I'm just surrounded by champs technically because it's Canadave took
took a place that's for Sativa, and y'all place two.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Three, hold up the first place.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Hold that hold that up, Hold that up again because
we can and then Dave there you go that. Yeah,
so we got.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
To first place winners in the flower categories here, first
place flows and then Dave won it with his sativa.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
You get to hold it on. I keep telling him,
and they want him to start like drinking.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Bling blow bling blow one second place in the hybrid,
so we almost have all the first place here.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
You know, Little mix.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Would be crazy hybrid of Siva and India place here.
Call it the High Times Cup. That's a joint hash
Bash Cup, hash Pash Cup joint.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Do it Like damn.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
I love the bling blow that's part.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
There's currently no flour in that. It's too good.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
This is one of my favorite design.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
That's that was the very first one he made.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That cold. We were like, yeah, all these flower you.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Got to keep it hotep, Like I would keep it
just because of the design and start my weed in it,
you know, after using its cool.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It's legit. Yeah, no, I was. Actually it was perfect
timing that you said the Wars goes about the pivot
and just be like, yeah, actually, so we could talk
about that a little bit. So that's cool of the winners.
I mean, I love the hash Bash Cup. It's such
a you know, open entry you know, brands, homegrowers and
everything in between anyone.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah, just what's got that's the best, you know for sure?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
What's what's smoking? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Man, you should you should be really proud of that
as a metric bank because people are always like, oh
it's metric, Oh it's metric.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
It's dry conversation that I had when I was dropping
the entries off, he said, with all due respect, Joe,
So you know when I was like, well, you know what.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Here's the things cargiver stuff. An advantage about caregiver stuff
is that you can get it fresher. If you get
in that range, you can get it fresher like obviously
some but I got from someone that's like, you know,
fresh outed cure for two months is going to taste
better than stuff that's seven months old on a shelf,
right obviously. So that's why sometimes I'm like, oh, it's
cargiver versus Metric, Like, no, it's not. It's shelving, like
(36:05):
you know what I mean, Like none of that, you know,
it's like has to do it? How when did you
smoke it? I've had some great stuff off Metric. I've
had some garbage on Metric. I've had some great stuff
off caregiver shit.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I've had some.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Garbage off caregiver stuff. And that's kind of how it is.
So I really think that's why I love that comp
because it's like who's got good ship numbers? There's no
numbers there, which one.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
You like coming correct and consistent with the brand, And
it's the quality you smoke any one of our gyrs and.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Proper It matters though too, because you buy one strain,
you can get turned off real quick of a brand
and get All that takes is one consumer to switch
to a brand, and then now how many other brands
are there?
Speaker 8 (36:41):
And the flavors are so distinguishedly different, you know, when
like I'm not even going to say any names, but
you catch like an underlining undertone and the consistency from
one's garden to the next, where you're like, this just
kind of tastes like this person's.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Flow that I can taste whatever.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
They're it and then their medium, you know, or how
they're finishing their plants or or their cure, you know.
Speaker 9 (37:06):
Whatever it is, it consistent with all their plants.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
Honestly, you smoke any one of our flavors, it's like
it just stands out uniquely different. So, yeah, Waku was
really good. And then you can't spell flavors without floats,
by the.
Speaker 10 (37:18):
Way, Yeah, I was like, yeah, I have I say
where the flavors?
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Where's that tackling? I say, where the flavors never end
and the taste begin. You need some shirts, phrases float anymore?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You got you can't have us. You can't have.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Flow without flows, which is why I've been growing my
house since I started. Yeah, it's not flass, you know.
It's like floss has two asses.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, I tell people all the time.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
I said, if we're flowing us the dentist was putting
this on first, we don't we don't get stuck in
your teeth. We don't get stuck in your teeth. But
we'll coach your mouth.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I'm glad you came out on the way and make
the time and said it and explained it for us
in the check because I think you did say it.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
Flo. I was like, I didn't know how close.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Has the.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Goes you know what I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You're flowing with flows, You're floating with flows.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I'm goes in with the flows and no, no.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Too funny.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
I want to I want to you guys do the
nose nose flows?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
All right, I don't know this is a good thingment.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Like like wraps wraps by Austin. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
We got group in the house.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Education right, yeah, real quick, do you guys just so
not so?
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Do you guys just have a we have a product line.
Do you have do you do pre rolls?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Do you do quarters pre rolls?
Speaker 8 (39:04):
We have hand rolls, which a lot of times Timmy's
rolling those up too, and we got a bunch of
different rollers people who've shown us love, just different time
and availability and when we need them.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
But you use nug for your pre roll right had
we asked, because your pre rolls are solid, I've had
some of your pre rolls. Well, you know how a
pre roll game is.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Yeah, we try to make them affordable. It's not all good,
you know, and like and we just want them to move.
Our biggest thing is keeping that freshness, keeping that consistency,
you know, And it just depends on where things are.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But we just try to price to keep things fresh,
you know.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
And we want to support our partners and maintain that freshness,
the velocity, that sell through rate.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
That's super important to us.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
We don't want somebody to grab more than they need
and then sit on it and it's not the best wall.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
That's true, and that this is where you're running that
issue where were talking about earlierbout the dates, because then
it sits on the shelves frial now and now it
looks the disco looks bad and the brand looks bad
and all it's because it's not moving cross. So that's
an interesting point. Do you think about that in sales
a lot.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
All the time? It's it's any tips for sales people?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I should ask too education podcast? Any tips for salespeople
out there? As you like, you're expanding brands.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
And the attention to details a lot of brands, the
attention to detail and know when your product's been setting
too long. I mean there's a lot of time where
we're giving things away. You know, we don't want to
give things away, but we understand in different markets, Like
how can we continue business tis customers?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Do you need a case of pre roles to get
these units moving?
Speaker 11 (40:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
What what do we have to do to get creative?
Speaker 8 (40:27):
You know there was a company where before we had
these jars, we sold them bulk or the bling blout
you know planeted and Flint And I told them, I
was like you need to put like second place, hash, bash, couplanyer,
like use your little label printer pe touch, like put
this on there, Like do you need a sticker? What
do you need like for us to get that acknowledgment
piece for people to ask.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Questions, right, did you guys see sales go up with
the sticker of the hash pass of.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
The blown stuff we did, I mean everything all around
with hash bash and the acknowledgement. You know, even when
we went up on stage, not just once twice three times,
everybody was like who are these guys?
Speaker 11 (41:01):
Go?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
People are like who are these guys?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Like honestly, like like I felt, I felt the joy,
but I also felt the like like who.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
There's so many haters.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
And I was just like and they're like, oh, their metric,
you know. But it's like they said we couldn't we
wouldn't we did, you know? And like I think you.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Know the example of why you legit is because look
he I mean, you both were winners, and like he's
just throwing.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
In times of change. Timmy.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Timmy comes from the caregiver trapping days, dude, Like he's
bringing that.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
The crow man and the flower, the care you knows,
the stuff, you know, your stuff, the real real ones
came from the industry, you know what I mean, Like
not just not knocking everyone who came in after, but
like at the end of day, it's like those you
guys were risking it for the passion.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Literally, he just does Yeah literally, I mean I did.
I got hit with seven fountains. I was at about
he didn't get charged, Like yeah, but they didn't have
to go to jail. I got my ship dismissed. But
it took two years. Shi, It's fucking ridiculous to where
we're at now.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, exactly now where they're like Uncle Sam's like, we'll
tax you, but like you better still do it right,
Yeah we can. We're not going to give you discounts
on stuff, but we'll take that money.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Taking that fucking money.
Speaker 10 (42:16):
Yeah, yeah, literally anyone in the government.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
And by the way, I just want to say shout out.
It's it's flaws. Flows Underscore can for this, for the
socials and for the website that Instagram is currently.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
We're Flows point two three one area code. And then
we're also Flows Michigan.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
And then here's the website, Flows Michigan dot com. The website,
it's nice website. Can you find wherever you're located on
the website, stuff your strains?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
What can you Yeah, we have a story locator around there. Perfect.
Speaker 8 (42:51):
It also has some strained information you can reach out
to us through Instagram whatever, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (42:58):
A.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Little tweaking.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
No, it's good. It's good to have a site though,
especially because I just want to bring this. I mean,
you brought it up. But that's the devil, Like, that's
the ship about social media, that you work your butt
off to build these social medias and they're like, even
though it's legal in your state, they're like, sorry, it
doesn't meet our guidelines, you know what I mean, Hopefully
they change it. Even we've been flagged trying to bullet
through like very much. Don't sell anybody, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Like we just we got we got to kount of
taken away last week.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Two weeks ago. It's just so sad, like, I mean,
you probably built that up, you know, you work hard,
you build it up, and then they're just like, nope,
are you appealing it at least? Yeah, as it happened
many times though, because I'm just curious.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
It was the first time kind of came out of
nowhere and haters made We didn't we didn't know if
it was intentional or if it was just some mass
meta thing, but it felt it felt purposeful.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
That's how we felt. How immediately, Yeah, haters media.
Speaker 8 (43:54):
We use different emails everything, like different phones, like whatever
we could do.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
It's just somewhere for you just hate you know what
that means. It means you guys are doing really good work.
Speaker 9 (44:04):
You know, you continue crushing it to me and the
grow continue crushing in the sales. Won't do like that.
You guys are making moves and you can see it.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
For you man, that's strong, you know, to stand out
in this industry.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It is.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
And I got a question you said you're putting stickers
on labels. You what upcoming strains do you have to
me to grow or the products that are coming out?
And then also secondary question, do you guys do any donuts?
Speaker 5 (44:28):
We are gonna do a donut? We cannot do them
and they want us to have a processing.
Speaker 9 (44:35):
Can you put that Can you put that jar back up?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Real quick?
Speaker 9 (44:37):
Sorry? I want to see what it was.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
So this one's Caribbean Breeze nice.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's been a popular.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Orange cookies time sunsets.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Sure, sure, Oh is it?
Speaker 9 (44:51):
What kind of what's the flavor profile? And it is
like orange and.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
It's definitely more of the candy. It has a little
like tangerine aftertoad, I get.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Like a little sweet pie to it. I would like
to try.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
That sounds good.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
Yeah, definitely like candy sweet.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
On that, I think.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
So then we also have our cream smoothie, and I
get with our cream smoothie like a.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Tangy runs is what I get.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
I also get like super lemon off my rainbow belts,
and everybody's like, that's Skittles all day, and that's you know,
that's lemon all day.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
So that's our.
Speaker 9 (45:53):
Her marker is such a good strain.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
This is actually my newest favorite sticker of the laser Fuel.
Speaker 9 (46:08):
Exotics.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Yep. That's from exact Mike. Yep.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I'm getting like a sense wavy vibe when I look
at that, like real tron.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Like, yeah, so this one's got that super sure gas
to it.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
It's a definitely like gassy.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
G m O with suret Okay said everything I like.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Once definitely one of my favorites. And then you guys
got the way Goo jar yep.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
And then this beach candy and then Austin just sparked
up the beach candy.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
We got it.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
We got a little hate for the beach candy, you know,
but hate. We shouldn't have I mean.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Some people hated it on the seeds and we were like,
we tried to really be public about it.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
You know.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
They felt like we shouldn't have jarted up like they
should have.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
We gave all we gave all the stores a discount.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
There was something that had little, something that had.
Speaker 9 (47:02):
I would take those seats. I would grow.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah, that's what a lot of people said. Like a
lot of people like, we're like, this is fire as fuck,
Like where can I get more jars?
Speaker 6 (47:11):
You know, it smells.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Other people were like, really, bitch, like.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
It's got good terms for flower. I don't Yeah, I
was gonna say, like maybe people just don't like seeing
seeds because they associated with like bad. But but it's like,
just like Dave said, if there's a grow out there,
like your mischion was one of the best, but he's
ever grown. Sorry it was bag butt like that. Suret, dude,
it's really good. Yeah, slaps dude.
Speaker 8 (47:36):
But that sales part, managing the expectations. It's just something
that we communicated just wasn't related effectively, you know, and
and to where it was it was effective, and that's
what's tropically it's kind of.
Speaker 9 (47:47):
What it tastes like it's tropically. It's like a tropical smooth.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It fits the beach candy name.
Speaker 9 (47:52):
I got the oil line.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
That's what I'm about to say, teaming credit to your
grow man once you guys do quality.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
From Yeah, that was that was a good joint A while.
Speaker 9 (48:05):
Yeah, I have fast.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
I also like with matches, and I think it can
contribute to the flavored transition.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Okay. I also let the ash just naturally fall off.
Speaker 9 (48:15):
Like I said, you rolled this in a he didn't.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
I watched them wrong, Like there's a roller.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I have been getting better.
Speaker 9 (48:26):
It looks like almost like some of those donuts you
get nowadays.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
To make perfect true. Been hanging out the details by
oh have you?
Speaker 9 (48:36):
They do some good don't nuts?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Man?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
I like it? I mean, if I would have.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
Company, who should we collab with?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
We talking about rollers?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Hash?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I got I know what I'm saying, Like rollers, we
talking about the hash creator?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Just collabing with flows?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
You want the hash collab you have that?
Speaker 6 (49:01):
We do have hash? That's test please, I will you
know what.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I'm gonna shout them out. Fat Yeah, there's some of
my most consistent wrong Fat Andie rolls the ship man.
I really enjoy and then also GT rolls pretty good.
Speaker 11 (49:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
But what's the other one.
Speaker 10 (49:18):
They know there's zootsuits Zoo, there's Phantom.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
They will have to always be rolling, always be rolling.
They roll really good joints. Yeah, yeah, they roll good
joint shot a br because they're like they're small. Those
are homies. Yeah, one of my homies rolls for them.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
My Dope Life. Shout them out.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
I just did I guess as Yeah, yeah, I guess Austin.
Speaker 6 (49:44):
We just see the processing license. That's what we mean.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
They won't they won't last. I have the hash here,
it's test to clean. I have the flower here, test
to clean. And they won't let me come. But the
two up into a hash role, they say, and you
go buy another twenty thousand dollars less you.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
Already have your hash process.
Speaker 9 (50:02):
Who didn't?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah, I have my hash process. Yeah you know you're
already there.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah, ago, dude, that white gummy gonna be on the market,
a white gummy Bears.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
We're trying to bring it to market.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
But well, they said that you want to do the
hash holes. Because we've won a lot of words with them.
Speaker 8 (50:17):
We're gonna have to send it to a processor for them.
To make it for us, just to put it together.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
So do you guys think maybe you'll get your own
license in the future longevity?
Speaker 6 (50:27):
Yeah, yeah, we're on.
Speaker 9 (50:29):
I mean it's expensive, like you said, but that's still tough.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
Though.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
To stick twenty thousand dollars in for one product is
like silly as ship. That doesn't even make any sense.
We did a processor Like a processor license to me
is like you're extracting, you're using, you know, you're doing
this science, not rolling.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Into it, which is not I mean, it's like, what's
gonna happen here?
Speaker 6 (50:52):
We're gonna spill some water and hash.
Speaker 9 (50:54):
Slip on some eyes.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Someone could slip and hurt them, break their neck, Jimmy,
Oh Sasha, what like you know hours later?
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Oh? It too fun?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Oh damn this episode, this we've been this episode has
been flying by with you guys.
Speaker 9 (51:15):
It has been a fun Sash. I have like two questions.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I was gonna grab it, uh you guys to talk
about the family, how much it means to have them
with you, and how it's family name what you guys do.
Is there anyone else you guys want to give shout
outs to that's helped flows along?
Speaker 9 (51:29):
The way, shit.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
Man, everybody who's supported us, anybody who's ball the jar,
you know, coming into this market like it is like,
you know, all the people who's recorded me back in
the day. I wouldn't be here with all all the
people who bought pounds from me back in the day,
all all my homies, all my homies from Kentucky and
(51:53):
Florida who drove up drove up to seventy five. We
appreciate you. Dog wouldn't be here without you know who
you are. But yeah, I mean my family, my team. Uh,
you know, I couldn't do without them. I tried to
do it for a while without them, and the plants
were not getting the love they needed. One bad crop
(52:16):
can really put you down in this industry. And I've
already had my bad crop and I didn't even release it.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Especially for the people like the family brands out here.
The brand's actually like standing through the market. Like sure,
these big bullies and these big people with big jermarketing plans,
people coming from other industries, they got the budgets to
just stick around. But like you know, it's such a
shame when you hear one bad crop can really mess
you all up because It's like, these are the brands
that need to stick around, you.
Speaker 9 (52:40):
Know, absolutely? Did you hear what you said too? He
said they had he had a bad crop and he
didn't even release it.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I just like how you said that, because like that's
just you want to have just your standard out there,
a high quality standard. When you get a flow's jar,
you know what you're getting. You're getting quality bud that's
going to smoke down. Probably have an oil line, smoke clean, clean, high.
Speaker 9 (52:57):
Like and if it's not to your leveling, in love
with your drawing.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
Never saw that ship again, I've never.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Seen him stare in the eyes of a joint. That's
a whisper. You guys need a minute, And I.
Speaker 10 (53:15):
Was like, jokes, I make the jokes here done too funny,
too funny.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
No, you can go to your question. Bro.
Speaker 9 (53:27):
Oh yeah, so you guys are just gonna have to
answer this question.
Speaker 11 (53:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I don't know who wants to kick off first, Austin
or Timmy? But do you guys, but we didn't even
ask what's your go to to smoke? Real quick, you guys,
dabbers are flowers smokers?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Flower thrown through?
Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yeah, definitely flower smoker. I'm definitely like a more gassy
sure to be grabbing guy. Yeah, I don't know all
my permanent markers and this new laser fuel, the laser
fuel is real.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
I want to try them. Yeah, that's sounds great. That's
a shirt cross. Yeah that sounds good. I love See
you're gassy.
Speaker 9 (54:05):
What's your turp Uh?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
It goes between like the citrus and the candy.
Speaker 8 (54:11):
Okay, you know, like the citrus, but I like I
like the different expression of the citrus, you know, where
candy is just kind of too consistent and not different
enough where it's like we all got a nice candy
and get that.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
You like tangerine, a nice game lemon lime.
Speaker 8 (54:29):
So like Bling Blow has like it's got the combination
of like citrus, berries and gas and it's just such
a hashed out plant where it's like I love this one.
It is like a citrus little mix up. But then
the Rainbow Belts is so like pleasant, subtle and just
delightful and just it's like Skittles. It's like, yeah, I
(54:51):
mean it's just and then and then the Prodigy, groovy hippies,
the art I love the hell.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 8 (55:00):
The Prodigy is one that we say is like Margarita
with undertones of lime. I've literally had ten people tell
me that the Prodigy has been their favorite smoke of
the year. Oh yeah, that one's got like all the
citrusy lemon lemmy notes to it, and it's got all
like the fume, the gas. That one, it's King Louis
across with Mumbo. It's just it's it is so good.
(55:22):
It is so good. But you know, the candy that
I've been loving lately from US airheads, like the.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Consistency, like the candy.
Speaker 8 (55:33):
Yeah, pink Pink runs since the pink jar across with Runs,
that's some of the best candy. It's all candy, but
then there's some cheese tones on the back end of it.
It's it's so special. I probably bought like three of
those jars. IM not gonna lie, and like just gave
a lot of it away because people were like to
know that.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
I'm like, it's hard for me to say no perm cherries.
This one sold out super quickly in some of our.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Stores in the market.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Man.
Speaker 8 (56:01):
The thing is, the thing is like this is lemon
Chary Gelatto with permanent marker. So like previously, you know,
somebody was like, can I get eighth of my runs
or my you know, lemon Chary Gelatto and can I
also get some permanent marker where you literally get the
best combo of flavors here on both like that perm
and the candy.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
It's just see why you do sales because I want
to smoke every single I'm just like.
Speaker 8 (56:27):
That's that's where the empowerment comes from with smoking.
Speaker 4 (56:31):
Try it.
Speaker 8 (56:32):
You describe it simulated succulent. Let me talk about like
our love and our passion for the plant. I'm just
a big flavors guy, man. I I when when I
consume it, I literally get like the story. And I
always say facts tell stories sell if I don't if
I don't have the consumption, and it can be like
the same product, the same round, you know, but I
(56:52):
want to see how it's hitting this round, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Because different days, what.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Are you going to different energy to sell? If you
like it? And that's what I said the passion speech
through y'all.
Speaker 9 (57:03):
We try to close, y'all.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
We tried to.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
Close through y'all. Damn, I got it. Hold on, hold on,
I got something for that.
Speaker 6 (57:10):
Hold on, sorry writing them down, I got it.
Speaker 8 (57:15):
We see everything we have really highly tested palettes and
house between Teddy, Timmy and I like and Leah and
the girls like everybody always smokes. You know, we even
have somebody. I have somebody occasionally help out with the
girl in the garden too, is like hanging around Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
She knows our weed smoke. That's good stuff. I love it.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
Got to ask you guys the final question. So Timmy,
I'll kick it off with you. Imagine you're grinding up
some weed, your favorite strain. I'm gonna go with rainbow belts.
I'm staring at it right here. Pop out, we pops out,
and the Ganja Jeanie pops out and he goes, I'll
grant you one wish to change anything in the industry.
Speaker 9 (57:57):
What would you wish for?
Speaker 10 (58:00):
Oh man, Yeah, I know, I mean put you on
the spot, but you know, get to think about it.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Get all the chaps out of here, and get all
the big court money out of here.
Speaker 6 (58:13):
Let's get all the people here, you.
Speaker 5 (58:16):
Know, people with the past, Like there's so many bad players,
Let's get them out. That's like the best man, the
genie will know who they.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
Are exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (58:30):
Get rid of pause.
Speaker 10 (58:33):
No, we did freeze no, Timmy FROs Yeah, flows throws.
Speaker 6 (58:42):
Let me take a picture of this? What good? Pause?
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Look so bad?
Speaker 4 (58:47):
Like laughing, smile on that you're back back.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
He was just joking, he was playing.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
That's a good book.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Should I got that out, Austin.
Speaker 6 (59:08):
I took a picture at your pause. Austin's tnser just something.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Like a roller coaster.
Speaker 6 (59:15):
Yeah, yeah, I got picture. I'll send it to y'all.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 6 (59:23):
I was like, he hit the button, that was it?
Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, I hit the butt of time. But yeah, no
to you, Austin, what about you?
Speaker 8 (59:33):
It would be being not me personally, but somebody like
the guardian angel taking the hand of the c r
A and like guiding the state in the best intentional
way possible, you know what I mean? Like we we
we know the people that are operating dirty.
Speaker 4 (59:51):
I like that best intentions for it because right now
it's a business.
Speaker 8 (59:54):
We know, Like how can you do things that revoke
your license and still play in this industry and have
like your your brands existing, you know?
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
How can you? Is it just a big money grab?
Like what's it about? You know?
Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
So that's where it's like the intention is like is
to have this Guardian, this Steward Austin for Sierra.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
I can't do.
Speaker 11 (01:00:18):
That, but but you know, but literally, somebody, somebody who
can spearhead this with the best purpose and love like
moving forward, because like we need that, because it's like
the people who have a heart.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
In this, like why find much? Why find them?
Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
Like people with good intentions like flows Timmy, like people
who put their whole heart and soul into this. It's like,
we can't keep getting hit with finds the same way
that you guys can then open it up with your
cousin and your wife or whoever you translating your brand,
your name, your license to. It's like, we have families.
(01:01:00):
We did this all ourselves. Like, so that's just where.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
You're messing with people's livelihood just for people making phone
calls just to be able to make a little bit
more money.
Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
The realist people that represent this industry, that's like, I'm
here for so expect that and I feel for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I feel that awesome. Yeah, that was a great both
the guys had. Those are great wishes. I wish Genie
Cook Coron.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
The realist, real people.
Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
This industry is made up of the most passionate people
that I've ever came across in my life. And it's
the greed, it's the state, it's whatever company previously killed
their passion.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Yeah, that's true. You see a lot of good people
get out his injury because they're just straight burnt out.
Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Yeah, and I just keep going and I keep the
foot on the neck, and we're going to keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
We cut the brakes a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Is with Timmy said close just beginning, just beginning, we
were preheating.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Like ticket, I'm riving.
Speaker 9 (01:01:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah. Yeah, we're fired up in the best way possible.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
We're excited to see those donut collapsed, to see all
the future. I love to see the passion speaks to y'all.
I can't imagine your team is probably the same.
Speaker 9 (01:02:10):
Keep nentwering those cuffs.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Men.
Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
People don't care what you know until they know how
much you care. And we keep fact we care so much.
Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
You see it in the.
Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Like Dave said, I didn't even catch it because you
said so fast. But I'm we're not even gonna put
out product you know that that shows you care, and
we're not gonna put out product that doesn't stand by
the name. So that's what's up. Some people are just
cutting corners just to make the bills and it's so
annoying and its pollutes.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Are industry that no sacrifice.
Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Spray packs in the garbage.
Speaker 8 (01:02:39):
People are making sacrifices the quality. We're literally making quality adjustments.
Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Timmy Fields.
Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Yeah, some dude shows me some spray packs yesterday. He's like, Dude,
I buy stuff that smells like this. I'm like, you
know that's fake, right, it's like their natural chirps. I'm like,
naturally straight on there.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Naturally made in a lab. Like is it? Is it
a lab called nature? Like that'd be ironic. We call
our lab nature, so it's nature made.
Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Yeah, it's from natural terms dot com.
Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
I appreciate both of you coming on a good brand.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Yeah, I respect.
Speaker 9 (01:03:30):
Yeah it was Michigan dot com. I respect everything that
you guys do.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
The quality and the product comes from you, Timmy sorry
and the crow you you asto getting out and selling
it to the market, getting people out there to try it.
You guys got a great collaboration together and partnership. I
look forward to seeing you guys do more stuff in
the future. Win some more cups next time. Timmy, we'll
get hopefully we'll get you in studio so we can
all have a blaze sashes ball to next time.
Speaker 10 (01:03:54):
Your town will just blaze yeah too, Yes, please get.
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(01:04:24):
you guys? Where can everyone follow you at? And then
we'll flow say it again.
Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Or flows two thirty one. Those are the two that
I handle.
Speaker 8 (01:04:35):
All right, Mischief Austin, Oh you Froze, I'm Michigan Austin,
and I helped run the Floast Michigan account.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Oh yeah, perfect, perfect, And you can find me and
can Dave Groovy Music and my Canic cass And as
always we're here to advocate, educate and inspire to next time, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Thank