I Shot a HOLE Through the Ceiling | MADHD EP44 | - Mike and Dylan HATE! Drama

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Bear never bound down Mike and Dylan hate drama, but the bound
Wow, welcome back to another episode of Mike and Dylan hate
hate drama where we talk about life with the current events.
We give advice to people who want advice.
Obviously, right now nobody wants advice because we're
getting a lot. So what happened was in the
first in the first episodes of the podcast, we've I answered

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everybody like everybody is justthey have the tools to get
through life easily. And I think it's because mom and
dad have been fighting in a lot of the recent episodes.
And so we're going to, we're going to try and be more
peaceful. I don't think we fought in a
while. Yeah, we fought about the
fucking card games and yeah. And then we fought one time, we
cut it out. We was like, well, we.

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Actually have it was still like and I, I, I exported a version
of it just in case we wanted to give it to the Patreon
listeners. Oh no, we'd have to hit like 100
patrons and we're going to release that.
That one's a, that one's a big one too.
Like that one's a people don't even see the, that's the inside
fights. You got to see the one like the,
you know, me and Dylan's like really getting some argument.
I'm like, come on sidewalk smoke.

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That's when we're getting into like the, the real arguments.
And I shit you not like people, I guess when they think, you
know, two people arguing, they think like you know, they
fucking. They carried on.
Oh, we did it the the other day where we were on like our third
or fourth episode that we were recording and then me and Mike
got into it about something. We didn't even save the the
footage for that at all because it was like early in the episode

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and we're just like blah, blah, blah.
We're fighting with each other alittle bit and then we walk
outside and we're still like discussing it.
Like when we fight, we just, we bicker.
Like, I mean, it's not even likepassionate, like, I mean, yes,
we're passionate about what we're bickering about, but it's
not like, I'm not mad. You're not mad, right?
But like we walked outside and they're like, oh, like there's
some people sitting outside at the bar and they're like, oh,
you guys are you guys are arguing.

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I'm like, not really like kind of.
Always ends with us like laughing and joking about it.
What people don't realize too isA friends fight, B coworkers
argue. So we got friends who worked
together all fucking day who we just worked that night up until
like what, like 1:00 in? The night before, yeah.
And. Then we come back in at 9:00 AM
and we're like 4 hours into it. We're both tired.

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We're both like going through our own things.
So when we bring something up onthe podcast and it starts,
usually if it can end pretty quickly and we get back to the
laughing and discussing that, I'm like, that's fine.
But I don't want to like send out a podcast where it's just,
we're just. Yeah, that one, the one that we
have saved, it's 15 minutes of us, 15 minutes debating just.
Debating which honestly, it's kind of my fault because I had

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drug a previous episode which wedidn't release into that episode
like kept and and it was just itwas for two daddies anyways, so
that didn't even belong on 2 daddies.
But Mike was just like, oh, I'm gonna make it about that.
Let me let's see how many viewers Mike can dissuade.
That's Mike's. View well the problem is in like

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this is what I've noticed is like I am extremely opinionated
and until people at least like acknowledge like Oh yeah I see
your side I just keep going and I keep going and I keep going
and I keep going and I keep going and I'm like yeah but you
see you didn't you're not payingattention to what I'm trying to
lay out here here for you like you'll see it just let me talk
for 1520 more minutes and you will get it by the end of this
and then. Like my, my forehead is like

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made of the shit that Tonka trucks are made out of, which
used to play with as a kid. So anything he's saying is just
like bouncing off of it. And I'm just like, well, if I
had the information in front of me and I had a phone right
there, by the way. I think we're pretty good at the
mental gymnastics of like changing the argument that we
started with to whatever the hell we want to make it like mid
argument. We're like, well, yeah, but like

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if this detail was there. You straw man the fuck out of an
argument. So when you straw man and get it
away from it, I try to like bring it back in.
And that's why I'm like, I don'twant to ever have an argument.
I'm saying like a lot. I don't want to ever have an
argument with Ben Shapiro because that's all he does.
When you're debating against them, you'll be like, well, you
know, what about, you know, the cost of living people can are,

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are you saying that? Are you saying that hard working
people don't work hard enough tomake money?
And I like what? That's not what I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying the cost of living is.
So I say that even if you're working hard, are you saying
people aren't working hard enough?
Do you think they need to work 40 more hours a week?
Shut the fuck up, buddy. I don't know how people watch
the like the, you know, the Charlie Kirk's, the Ben

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Shapiro's, the whoever, the Democrats.
Have they nailed that? They they nailed that in this
last episode. I don't understand how people
aren't like, wow, he's going to like he's debating 17 year old
kids or someone he's obviously paid to be there to say the
things that he could be like, gotcha.
They covered that in the episode.

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Oh, really good. Thank you, South Park.
South Park was like cuz like Cartman's super mad cuz Clyde is
now the what he Cartman has dubbed the master debater.
Yes. So they're master debaters and
so Cartman tries to steal it back from him and he just goes
fully like Charlie Kirk, like does the hair and makes it and

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he's like, I'm, I'm masturbating.
These 17 year old college girls,Lincoln just goes through it and
it's they're, they're so great at nailing that stuff.
I, I know they got people, kind of not people, but like the girl
that is the Homeland Security orwhatever, she does a lot of
Botox and things like that. And so like they're like, yeah,

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powerful woman, you just make fun of her looks, blah, blah,
blah. I mean, they they nailed her for
shooting her own dog because shedid that too, so.
The Democrats, they have their Charlie Kirk and but this guy is
I forgot his name. I want to remember what he did
like so well, but so he just like goes around and we'll just

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interviews people like hands on the microphone and it's
obviously either special people who are part of like a
Republican thing or obviously somebody that's been paid to be
there to say that just horrendously you're.
Talking about the guy that like off of like The Daily Show that
does it all the time. No, not that one.
I don't know who this guy. He might be on The Daily Show
sometimes. I know he's verified on TikTok.

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I know the funniest thing he ever did was this one guy was
talking about something about he's in an airport and he's
talking about like poor people or something about poor people.
And then it cuts to that guy, the guy that soccer, but he's
like, so, so you, you don't wantblack people to go because he
heard poor. And then it was immediately
like, Oh, black people are. And then everybody started like
jumping on him about it. And I thought that was really, I

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wish I fucking knew exactly whathappened.
But I don't really pay attentionto that stuff unless one of
them, like, fucks up or, you know, the funniest thing, too,
with the people who debate people is we get all these new
ones. We have all, like, Ben Shapiro
seems like he's been able to getthrough the longest because,
like, one will pop up and then, like, something will happen.
And it'll be like, videos of them sunbathing with some gay

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guys came out. And they gotta be like, well,
I'm not like, gay, gay. You know, I'm saying, I just
sometimes when I sunbathe, I'm just curious.
Yeah, sometimes when I sunbathe,I'm like, I wonder what it's
like to suck a Dick. But something will happen within
the next two years with Charlie Kirk.
Well, something will come out and it'll be some weird shit and
but Ben Shapiro will do it the whole time.
I think Ben Shapiro is for people who I'm not going to say

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for. I don't think far left really
fucks with Ben Shapiro because or far right fucks with Ben
Shapiro because he's Jewish. Far left wouldn't fuck with him
either because he's Jewish. Which is a beautiful thing that
the far left and far right can agree on something even though
it's terrifying for Jewish people.
But I think the people who listen to Ben Shapiro want to at
least try to sound like they know what they're talking about,
even if it's wrong. Look, I'm the type of person

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that'll say Republican, Republican politicians are
wrong. Democratic politicians are
wrong. I love everybody that is
fucking. If you're a blue collar worker,
I don't give a fuck if you're a Republican Democrat.
If we could sit down and joke together and have a good time, I
fucking love it. See that's the problem though,
is I like all these videos of people talking about politics

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and everything. It's all just you pick and
choose. I mean, it's like when we're out
shooting something like you're going to pick the best takes and
so you're going to pick. If you're a right winger, you're
going to pick the ones that makethe left look so stupid.
Ha, ha, Look at how dumb they are.
And then vice versa. And the problem is, though, is
that then the people that watch it that agree with whichever one

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they're agreeing with, they're like, Oh yeah, see, they are
idiots. I told you they were idiots.
And it's like, no, those people are idiots, which, you know, a
lot of people are ill informed. So like, it's a, it's a very
easy thing to find a bunch of material, but you're also like
cherry picking, like, oh, what do you think about the, you
know, economic policy of, of howwe support Israel for blah,

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blah, blah. I don't fucking know.
I don't, I'm like, not that deepin the sauce that I, I
literally, you know, paid attention to.
Donald Trump said states that don't support Israel won't get
funds like disaster relief funds.
And I'm like, what a corny, a corny way to introduce who your
daddy is. Like that is a.
Well, and to like, we're Americans fucking first, right?
We're not Israelites first and then, but they back it up.

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They back it up with the well, if you disagree with that take,
then you don't love God, you hate God, You don't like Jesus.
Which fucking God? The Jesus, God Jesus.
They're Julian. They're they're not.
You ain't got to make it. You don't have to make it make
sense. You don't have to have it
doesn't have to make sense. That's all you have to say is
look, if you don't, this is how you know you're fucking up.
If you if you're a Democrat and defending your side on a subject

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involves you pointing out what the other side is doing, you're
probably not correct in the situation.
You probably have a terrible idea of that situation.
If you're on the right and your side reverts to you using God to
defend your point, you're probably wrong in this
situation. And God said don't focus on the
worldly things. OK?
You just you be ready for the outcome.

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Now you're gonna get everybody, man.
So just look, all I'm saying is,is why?
If you're going to a perfect place, you don't have to make
this place like you want it, OK?You can.
You can go to your perfect placeand have heaven and everything
like that. Which I mean, I am a believer of
God and I believe in the resurrected son Jesus.

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He has different names throughout different religions.
OK. I believe in like the
Antichrist, the deceiver. You're just like trying to step
all in. It aren't.
You no, no. But what I'm saying is, is we
need to make this world where you can have your ideas, your
values, whatever the base of this world needs to be.
You get what you get what you put in.

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If you're putting in work to to,you know, have society move
forward, you should be able to live comfortably.
You shouldn't have to worry about the cost of living.
You shouldn't be like, man, if Ilose my job, I'm fucked.
If I break my leg, I'm fucked. That's what I believe in the
values, the morality and stuff like that.
We could save that for the afterlife, OK, Because right now
we're here. That's, that's my whole take on

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it. And I, I love that you're
passionate about your family values, your religion, all that
stuff. Great, good.
Unfortunately if y'all keep arguing about that then you're
going to have to work 70 hours aweek and not fucking get ahead.
Yeah, that's where we're at, allrighty, we're there.
I mean, maybe not because the aliens in November, they,
they're talking about that 12 mile long, so.

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This is the same guy as the sameguy that found like two other
ones like that weren't like, andthe one was like a mile long.
And I swear they said that it's like the diameter of like a
fucking cigar. Yeah, but it was like a mile
long And so like it's just. I'm a snake, Yeah, I'm a sneak
at the snake. I forgot when that one was
called but it's it's wild that like the same guy is the one

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finding like multiples of these.It's like the same every two or
three years. The crazy religious people are
like, all right, we have a date when the world's ending.
This is it, August 12. It'd be the rain most August 12.
Don't forget about the OR. I mean forget about all the 14
other times that. We did the real date.
But what's good too is you couldeven see even religious people

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like Brows shut up. Well, I think that's back to
your point about the whole religion thing.
I think a lot of these people are honestly looking forward to
Armageddon and the Rapture and like all that stuff.
Like, they actually are like excited about that.
Like, Oh yeah, here we go. And it's like, we don't have to
like, try and recreate this. Like, we don't have to like,

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speed this process up. We could just like, let it
happen on its own timeline without, like, us interfering
and like, you know, trying to create like these like mass
atrocities throughout the world.Like we could just let it let it
play itself out. Yeah, I had a preacher one time
who would always talk about he wasn't going to.

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He's like, you know, my parents were the last generation that
was going to die on this earth. He's a year without a shadow of
a doubt. I'm, I'm telling you right now,
we are, we are all ones that aregoing to get raptured.
We're not going to. We're not going to die here.
He died of like a brain aneurysmand like 91 years old.
But but I saw a video just recently of a young guy saying
he was like, how's it feel beingthe, you know, we're not gonna

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die. We're gonna get, we're gonna get
raptured up. And I'm like, brother, you were
calling upon something that you don't want to call upon right
now. All right, let it happen when it
happens, because if it happens in 200 years from now, all
right, say, say the biblical rapture does happen, Armageddon,
all that stuff. Everybody who didn't like was
predicting. You just look dumb if you don't,
if you just say when it happens,when it happens, then everybody

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just like, all right, I fucked up with that guy.
But if you're like, this is the date.
Do you bring on the? How are you supposed to make
your mega church the biggest mega mega church that's ever
happened if you're not the one? I do need to start speaking in
terms of I'm going to start a mega church then so fuck.
We got to work on that. Yeah, I did.
We went to the Concord Mills today and I was like in one
room. There's more people than

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literally listen to this podcast.
And I was like, we got a pretty decent like little listenership.
And then I was like, wait a second, like, in this like food
court, there's like damn near that many people like.
What's so funny too, though, is if I did start a mega church,
yeah, if I started a mega churchand these clips came by and it
was like, Mike doesn't love God or you know what I'm saying?

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They're going to say that even though I'm like, you know, I
believe in, you know, God and all that stuff and.
You got to switch it. Around yeah, I might not believe
in the Bible because I understand that man can change
things. If man can change things, the
devil can change things. The first thing I'm a change is
the fucking book that's wrote about me.
You know what I'm saying? That's the first thing I'm a
change. I'm a try to make that shit as
divisive as fuck to get my word out.

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But but clips could pop up of this on me.
I have a mega Church of 15,000 people, whole stadium where
homeless people are not allowed shot on sight.
And if a natural disaster happens, I'm putting up barbed
wire around my mega church because God, God told me to you
he didn't want to mess up the new carpet that's inside.
But these clips could surface and then I just get on stage and

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I'm like, that was the devil. That was a time when Mike and I
understand you heard me talking about a mega church, but that
was the devil talking. Now that I have the mega church,
this is a God. God speaks through me, not the
devil. It's just God and everybody in
the. That's why I need congregations
by. The 13 is the perfect.
He's the perfect example of of what?

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Look at him. That's a godly man.
Not everybody's. That's why I'm not everybody's
perfect. That's that's that's what I'm
trying to say about. But now I am cause I have it all
put together now. And if y'all could pass around
this plate so I could get my 13th private jet, we got a, we
got a Dylan Rossler. Dylan, Dylan, lock the doors
back there. Lock the doors back there.
We ain't, we ain't leaving untilwe get 75 for $80,000.

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That's what God just told me right now.
That was the funniest when everybody making fun of the
preacher. That was like, lock the doors
until we get 75. That actually happened.
That actually happened. That actually happened, but
that's why a mega church you gotto think in one Sunday $75,000.
Not bad, not bad. I feel the Holy Spirit, Dylan.
I feel it in my body. Well, the crazy thing is is it

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doesn't matter. Like you can have a church
anywhere. Like I mean, there, there used
to be a Harris Teeter here up byLowe's and now it's a church and
like you go where is the other one that over there's like a
just a small little that's the church and then.
In my church, I be like, if you're sitting here today and
you're just sitting here and youget a whiff of bread, that's the

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body. That's the body of Christ in
here. And that means you should give
five times more offer. And if you smell the scent of
bread in here, not that it was ever, you know, the old Harris
Teeter, there's plenty of bread up in that bitch.
So. Or you just have like everybody
cooking bread and. Hell yeah.
Just I would look in my church, I would have like little
tectonic plates underneath that electronic plates, just.

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To move it just. Rattle.
And that's God right there. I remember when I was, it's
crazy because I feel like the member barriers from South Park,
but there were these called, I think they were called base
shakers. But you could like mount them on
your seats so that when you had the base rumble in like your
stereo in your car or like in your, you know, home theater, it

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wasn't so much about hearing thebass.
It was that like you would hear a little bit, but then your seat
would actually like rumble with the the vibration of the sounds.
I never get those. I've never gotten why people
want a strong bass. Well, I mean for like movies and
stuff it makes a lot. Of sense.
Oh yeah, not, not not movies. I'm talking about in their car.
And you can't hear a bit of the music anymore.

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All you can hear. Well, if it's balanced right,
then it it's more so about the feeling than it is about the the
sound of it at all, because the sound is not.
G about the guy passing away, Bob and Grey yeah.
Had a driver attack. No, he had a heart attack before
the race happened. So.
A driver though. My daughter goes every weekend

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as long as she didn't go becausethey were doing the getting
ready for school and stuff like that.
So her grandpa goes and he told us about it.
And then what's so funny too wasI was looking like on the page,
one of his family members were like, yeah, he had a heart
attack because everybody was saying the throttle got stuck
and he smacked to a wall and died.
But all his family. Were so he was driving though,
like I mean, yeah. Yeah, the race.
The race starts and everybody goes around the lap and he just

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goes straight. So I look at my wife and I'm
like, oh, yeah, he had a heart attack.
She was like, you really need towait for like an official source
before you say with such confidence about how somebody
died. And I was like, I just got it
from the closest people to him, just the the people that are
around him all day. That's who that that was my

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source. But I'll shut up.
So today, Fast forward to today and I kind of reenact that in
the kitchen with my wife. I'm like, yeah, it's crazy.
He died from a heart attack. You know, it's almost like I got
that from people who are relatedto him.
And she was over there. Yeah.
And then I started, like, mocking what she said that
night. And she's like, that's not how
it went. Women look.
It's like arguing with me. It's like, no, it's like arguing

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with Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro, any of the Democrat
people. They got to do better, man,
because like Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, you know their names,
the Democrat people, I just got to call them the Democrat people
who fucking, but that's like them.
They just, they argue like womendo.
They're just like, no, that didn't happen like that.
That's not, that's not how you remember it.
This let me throw you off on this different argument right

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here. Well, why are you always leaving
the refrigerator up? And I'm like, no, we're talking
about a yeah, 'cause you can't close a refrigerator.
Yeah. And that's why our electric
bill's so high. Yeah.
And Speaking of, you don't even know how an electric bill works.
And I'm like, what are we talking about right now?
We're. Talking.
Are we still talking about the racing guy?
That's no. We're talking about how you
don't know anything about electricity, OK, even though you

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took a class in college for electricity.
And how did that, how did that pan out for you, an electrician
now? No, I'm not not an electrician
because. Fuck trade schools, huh?
He said that it didn't count anythat.
Was one of our debates too. What trade schools?
That but look, we both have different stuff now Dylan will
be like what did you do it? No, then be like well how are

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you going to speak on it? Cuz I see.
I mean, there's a lot of shit that I don't do that I right.
Yeah, there's like there's like data on it and stuff like that.
One. Just because one person went
through it just doesn't mean. Like statistically have like
stuff. And also the things that I'm
saying is, well, it just kind offeels like this.
So it's literally one person being like, well, you can't
argue on it if you've not done it.

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And the other person was like, well, it kind of feels like, so
not only are we having an argument, which is super fucking
cringe, we're having an argumenton shit we don't know about.
That's the best. Like imagine two people having a
heated debate. See, that's what that's what
this show is like based around. And then like, I feel like
that's what, but then like seeing our numbers as of late,
I'm just like, well, maybe we don't argue as much, no.

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I don't think it's that. I think it's just people get
caught up. Like no one's watching 2
episodes a day anymore. We're releasing, you know, two
times a week and then we have the Patreon episodes, which the
Patreon is good guys, if you want.
I gotta figure that out cuz likewe are facing an issue with
that. Like it it's basically like if
we had not opened subscriptions on Spotify it would have been

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fine. But since we did that, it won't
connect which makes no sense at all.
It just does not make. We'll we'll figure it out.
We'll get, and also the cool thing with the people from
Patreon too is, is that if someone goes to Patreon, that
means they like us. So if like, we're having
technical difficulties because when we started Patreon, we
weren't allowed on there for thefirst two weeks and the Patreon

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people were like, we're going to, we're going to, yeah, yeah,
we understand. We did have one person cancel
and they're like in the the comments for why they canceled
it. They're like the guys said they
can't log into their Patreon. So like I'm just going to quit
paying until. They get it right, So we don't
want to just give money to Patreon.
We did get back in it, but I do think we're going to start

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turning the corner. Mike me had a really good idea
for so skits are fine to do. I don't want to start doing
skits if they're all over the place and we're kind of like
investing a lot of money into the skits because that makes it
difficult. Like it a lot rides on the skits
being seen by people and whetheror not YouTube is going to be

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like, Oh, well, we can't monetize this skit because it
we're not going to monetize it, but it's going to be your
biggest fucking video on the page too.
That's the that shit irks me like a motherfucker.
And we're like, no, we ain't going to monetize this, but
we'll give it 2 million views. And I'm just like you sons of
bitches like you could have just.
I mean, I'm cool with them giving it 2 million views
though. Right.
But so I'm going to start doing skits for we're going to start

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doing skits for YouTube and the short form platforms.
And it's pretty much going to bewhere my pre Civil War ancestor,
we got the things for. He's going to speak in like an
old Savannah accent. It's going to be real nice.
But I've kind of gotten him through modern day life and
different takes on things and like how life's going.

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Just give you a general idea. Remember we shit on Republicans
and Democrats. We got a lot of no we.
Can just we just you don't got to give them any ideas.
Oh, no, just just save it. Yeah, just save it.
But yeah. So Dylan's going to his high
school reunion. These will probably be out
towards the second to last week of August.
The first one will probably drop, obviously will tell you

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when the first one drops. But if you follow us on, you
know, Facebook, Instagram, anywhere you go, they're not
just going to be on YouTube. We're going to take them, you
know, do the short form thing. Obviously the best looking
version is going to be on YouTube.
Does that piss you off? When we put the best looking
version on YouTube and then the short the short form platforms
get the? Most.
Views the vertical, the verticalview, and it's like you don't

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even see us on the screen at thesame time.
We ain't doing that, by the way,we ain't doing that.
That's that's hard. And it involves me getting
dressed in public like 4 times. Now what I might do is when this
kind of sounds smart, when I getthe get up for both of them, I
might just have a outfit just like a plain white T-shirt and
like some thin shorts where I could just like put the pants
over, put my regular pants over,whatever.

(23:47):
Yeah, but you don't. Gotta get naked for every.
Time yeah, modern day Mike modern day Michael wear the same
thing every episode and then thecountry ancestral wear the same
thing every episode and it's just like his his he's
explaining like streamers and politics and hard working people
like man that man works all day 70 hours.

(24:08):
I bet he has just so much property and and and horses and
he just a man. He lives in comfort.
And I was like no. He's scraping by like he he's
the taxes on his house went up. They tripled over the past like
4 years because you know, house values and so.
So you could be explaining that because Dylan's going to be on a
lot of the skits, too now, sincehe doesn't give a fuck anymore.

(24:30):
At first he wouldn't because he was like, you know, I got a
business that I got to, and a lot of the skits would be, like,
fucked. And now he's just like, yeah,
I'll be in it. But yeah, Dylan could be
explaining that back. Well, you know, that happened to
my daddy. And then he just started killing
people with a bunch of his friends.
And then they started calling this place America instead of
the 13 colonies. We, we we just became America.
You know, they did that. Why don't y'all do that?

(24:51):
And like, because it's illegal, bro.
Like, you can't do it. Oh, it's illegal.
OK. It's illegal.
Yeah. I guess when my daddy heard that
it was illegal to do that, you know, he was probably like, you
know, imagine him hearing that and just being like, well, well,
I shouldn't, I shouldn't overthrow this.
Government because it's illegal they have these cool little
machines they fly like this and they can carry weapons
underneath them and they can flyanywhere and they can like
because. He could be like, look, I can

(25:13):
show you boys how to do a revolution, all right?
And then we explain to him what a.
What a drone arm. The drone is he's like, so they
got little mini aircraft. Yeah, they just fly with a
remote control. They ain't even got to fight.
Wait. And sometimes they just have
them where they just lock on on their own and they just follow
you. Yeah, there's a heat seeking
heat they it reach your body temperature and they could just.
So you can't hide, no. Well, then what I would say is,

(25:36):
is you, why aren't you working 100 hours a week?
You need to get ahead. You work 100 hours a week, all
right. And I I for one, will never talk
shit about the government just but we're excited to do those
two. And obviously, naturally with us
actually shooting skits, we're going to bring in money
regardless because I don't know,it just gets really, we hope,

(25:57):
what's the? Word because it it could not pan
out. I mean, that's one of the things
is we, we always constantly are like so optimistic with what the
next thing is. And well, I mean, it's.
Just short form skits. So on Facebook, regardless,
it'll bring in a little bit of money.
I'm on TikTok. It won't bring in fucking
nothing because I post somethingon TikTok, they're like, we're
going to give this 500 views. I'm like, you know, I got like 2
million followers and they're like 500 views.
Oh put a tic tac. Shop on a tic tac toe No No 500

(26:20):
views but. We just always sell hats.
Oh no, we're going to also go against the grain too.
Mike is tired. Look, you getting you getting
Mike's villain arc when it comesto these skits too, because
we're going to talk about race and all sorts of shit and the
one. List more things than just race
so that. Race and black people and
Mexicans bigotry. Yeah, bigotry, sex prejudice.

(26:44):
Sex is oh, God, I can't wait forthe one about the the problem
with relationships is you can't when me and you great, great,
great, great, great grandma, we'll get into an argument.
I'll take you out to the city. All right?
We I take her to see the light because we only have one of
them. There was only one.
This is when electricity just first started.
They just they just figured out how to bottle that shit or
something. I don't know.

(27:05):
But they they have one light andthey light that shit up and I'll
be like, wow, that's never goingto overtake candles.
I was wrong. All right, I look around.
Yeah, I'll see. I was wrong, but she enjoyed the
city. We go stop by the stables.
They used to have stables, thousands of horses.
Grandma, great great, great great grandma.
She loved the horses boy she loved looking at them, looking
at the big buildings man they have some 20 feet high.

(27:27):
You would have been like wow man, look at the I mean you
wouldn't you wouldn't because y'all gay and got all these big
ass buildings and shit like that.
Y'all don't understand how to beappreciative of what you got.
But then, but then I take it to the, to the courthouse, you
know, and I take a, take it to right, to the steps of the
courthouse and, and beat her vigorously on those steps and,
and pretty soon she would see myside, you know, she would

(27:47):
understand where I was trying toget at with the argument.
It's like, y'all can't, y'all can't do that anymore.
Or we'll just be like, you know,we, we can't do that anymore.
It's like, oh, you can, you can do it inside your own house now.
That's, that's what a what a step through in like what a big
upgrade in, in society that you could not do it inside of your
own house. No, you can't do it at all.
It's illegal. You can't.
I wouldn't want to do that. Right.

(28:08):
You can't beat your wife on the steps of a courthouse or inside
of your own home. That's crazy, man.
You know, pretty soon they're gonna make it to where women can
just beat men and then nobody best.
And I And then I'm just sitting there just like, yeah, that.
Is that is actually what that? 'D be be crazy, wasn't it?
Yeah nobody talks about that do they?

(28:28):
But yeah, I got a lot of great shit just.
And it's just a take on just life and stuff so every single
one of them will be great. I wish we were doing this with
before War of the Worlds came out though, because Jesus
Christ, I would have so much material for that, you know, me
and him watching War of the Worlds together and they said.
Well, you didn't finish it, so you can still have plenty of

(28:50):
more material to to go through. What do you mean you only made?
That old news by the time we getbecause it's, it's not going to
be, it's going to be later in August though these drop anyway,
so it'll be way old news by then.
Done well, it's still in the zeitgeist.
Now you want it when everybody'ssearching it, when everybody.

(29:10):
That's what's going to be good about this too, is it's not just
work stuff, it's everything likehe could be at work with me.
They're like, why you let that man speak to you like that?
Because if I don't, then I don'teat.
He's like, yeah, but you can go out and you can procure your own
food. You can build your own.
How the fuck am I build my own house?
You go cut down a couple trees. Where?
On whose property? Well, and not on somebody's

(29:31):
property, just on the land. Ain't no more the land.
Like if if people don't own it, the government owns it, but the
government can't own land that they can.
There's so much shit. I'm so excited to get into
these. See, I don't think that one
place, just because somebody's always owned the land, there's
never been a time that the land wasn't owned.
Yeah. But I think that even like

(29:52):
during say, like the Louisiana Purchase and stuff after the, I
think that was after, yeah, thatwas definitely out because that
was fucking Thomas Jefferson waspresident when that happened.
So obviously we had already. But yeah, you just went over
there and just started chopping down trees and just like I own
this. Well, no, you had to like
procure. This is my land right here.

(30:15):
That's where old George lives at.
Well, they didn't have a lot of enough governing body to see who
was living up there too. So if you had already built a
house and stuff like that and they'd be like, all right, And
then how much land do you own? I'd be like 500A and then you
see him five, 300 acres and be like, Oh yeah, that's more.
That's OK. That's how much fuck, man.

(30:37):
That's why vampires like vampires.
If I met a vampire today, OK. And they've been like, yeah,
I've been alive for 500 years. I'm like, you work at a fucking
Speedway. Like how's this?
Seems like, yeah, I'm just really bad with money.
Yeah, I'm really bad with money.And it's just like something
I've never been able to figure it out because you literally
lived through the 18 hundreds, 1900s where you could just be

(30:57):
like, yeah, I shine. So you know, the the cushions
that go on seats, I shine those.You just bring them by here.
I shine them while you're at work.
That's how I afforded this houseand that house over there just
from shining, shining seats. And today you'll be like, yeah,
man, I got 2 jobs. My wife's got three jobs.

(31:18):
Our kids, man, I don't like to say this, but they work
sometimes and we barely get by. Fucking got them out there.
Just you babysitting the kids. Cuz if you, you and your wife
works, that's the fucking. That's the most thing too, is
they're like, look, we're going to fuck the economy so much
where people could barely get bythat now your wife has to go
work 70 hours a week. And then I was like, well, now
that we made the wife work 70 hours a week, love that daycare

(31:41):
you want you want your kid watchI.
Don't see how people 6. $100 a week.
That's crazy. That is really stupid.
It's dumb and well. Especially because they're
probably still, you know, you got 20, 50 kids, whatever at a
daycare, they're still probably paying those fucking daycare
workers like 1217 bucks. Not minimum wage.
They get 750 an hour. That's $0.25 more than minimum

(32:03):
wage, so 750. They really do get paid like 8
bucks an hour. But then there's like 50 kids
there, and so how much does thatequal out to like?
And they'll be like, you know, daycare worker leaves child in
hot car. Well, they're watching 900 kids.
They're poor, so they probably got a second job.
Well, yeah, they don't get any sleep because they've got three
jobs that they're working. Yeah.
Daycare worker punches just kid.I was like, she got off her

(32:26):
Wendy's job, you know what I'm saying?
Just had to get in there. She's had four hours of sleep
all week, struggling to get by. People were like, we'll just get
a better paying job. OK bro, those are in like
factories and. A lot of the times.
A lot of the times, like you gotto fuck yeah, I know a lot of
them, but they're in like factories where you could be is
like, can you withstand 130° temperatures?

(32:48):
Can you lift 50 lbs? Why are you asking me that?
£100. From time to time, yeah. 100 lbs
time to time and and 50 lbs constantly throughout the day in
130° weather without dying. Can you do that without dying, I
mean. I'll probably have heat stroke a
couple days out of the week. That's.
Fine, we're going to blame that on energy drinks and not that we
don't have an air conditioned system in this place, but as as

(33:08):
long as. No, no, no, they've got those,
those really cool. I can't even remember Cooley
fans or whatever where the water, the old moldy musty water
goes over top of the cardboard and the fans blowing and.
I that's how like I thought we had it made when we had one of.
Those oh dude, they're they're. Yeah, that's how, that's how I
was just grateful that I was making, you know, $20.00 an hour

(33:28):
and that I could feed my family $20.00 an hour.
I came from a poor family. When I was making boxes and shit
operating, I was just like, man,this is it.
Like I have, I have achieved wealth like I am.
And then I talked to some peopleand they'd be like, yeah, I make
$250,000 a year. I work 36 hours a week and I'm
just like. Doing to a trade school.
Yeah, What's all bad trade guys?Trade guys are like, yeah, I'm

(33:51):
probably going to take the next four days off.
And yeah, I did. We had a really good week, you
know, maybe about four or $5000.I'm like hell.
And it was like, oh, well, you didn't have a daddy to say, Hey,
go do this because you could sell this skill.
You can't just go and make boxesfor people.
You can't just have have your own box making side hustle.
But if you were to learn how to Weld plum electric, any of this

(34:11):
stuff, you could do your own side hustle.
Technically, you wouldn't even have to work like as long as you
didn't list it as a job and you just had enough people in your
community that knew you and you just handled all that shit,
you'd be fucking sad. You don't even have to tell the
government about that. It's like, how do you fucking
pay for this house? Well, you know my fat mom.
Yeah, my fat mom got that SocialSecurity.
That's what it affords a house like that.

(34:33):
But yeah, yeah. Thank you.
Fat Mama. She was, she was a big girl, Fat
Mama getting $1200 a month. That's how we afforded all that
right there. That's crazy.
That is, that is one thing though, guys, if to, to, to the
listener right here. If you're in a factory and it's
hot and stuff like that, just start watching YouTube.
That's how I'd start doing it. Figure out what?
What trade? I when I was going to

(34:53):
architecture, like at the Community College learning about
architecture and everything, I had talked to my buddy and I was
like, dude, we just need to go into like one of these nice
fucking neighborhoods in Greensboro and just, you know,
run a survey. Like where do you work?
What do you do? Like what's your hours, blah,
blah. And just like walk through and
figure out like a lot of them are going to be lawyers and
doctors and like things like that.

(35:15):
But there's got to be someones in there where you're just like
you do that and live here. How do I start doing that?
Cause 'cause like not everybody is in like I mean you could be
in medical for sales. Like my brother doesn't have
like a education for that, but he's in medical sales Had he
selling just. The tanks and shit.
Well, he's selling like, you know, surgical steel that goes

(35:36):
in your your body and everything.
But like, and he works a shit ton.
So like, it's not like, but he'smaking bank doing what he does.
But it's one of those things where, like, you think that you
have to be the doctor, you have to be the lawyer in order to
make, you know, $300,000 a year.No, you can technically just be
good at selling shit and if you find the right industry to get

(35:58):
into. And so, yeah, like when I was, I
wish I would have done it. I really, honestly wish I would
have done it because I didn't. I thought of the idea and I was
like, fuck it and kept on with architecture.
Then by 2008 I had to get out ofthat because the economy crashed
and then went to a factory. It's so wild here and I had to
get out of that by 2008 because I was just like I was in school.
Well, yeah, I mean, I graduated high school in 2005 and then

(36:22):
went to Community College. Community College until 2007.
Basically. I started at the architecture
firm in 2006 and then was there for like, I, I guess I actually
left the architecture firm in 2009 because the economy crashed
in 2008. And we kind of just wrote it for
a little while, but nobody was building anything.

(36:43):
And so it was either me or the guy that worked next to me, one
of my good friends at the time. And I knew that if it was
between the two of us, he was going to get to keep his job and
I wasn't going to get to keep mine.
So I was dating a girl and her dad was the plant manager at a
factory. So I was like you guys hiring
and so I went over there and went from $11.00 an hour at the

(37:05):
architecture firm to 1150 over there.
At the factory because I lied to.
Them they're like how much moneyyou make?
I was like 1150. And they're like, OK, we can
take you for that. Damn, they wish you would a lot
a little bit harder. Right.
Yeah, I don't think they would have.
Pretty much hired me for much more.
I got the job at the box shop. They were like, you've ran a
machine before, right? Yeah, I worked all restaurant
jobs and in my, in my brain machine operator machine, like,

(37:31):
you know, through life you see washing machine dishwashing.
Machine I work a microwave and so I.
Was like, look, it's not going to be that hard.
Yes. So then they show me this, you
know, 66 inch Rotary die cutter.And I'm like looking at this
trailer size machine, mobile home size machine.
And I'm just like, I have two weeks before I get fired.

(37:53):
Like I'm, I'm do it into my headtwo weeks before I get fired.
But thankfully, because they were going to train for two
weeks, put me on 3rd shift because I was like, Oh yeah, I
got plenty of experience and allthis stuff picks it up real
quick. I'm a, I'm a fast learner,
yadda, yadda, yadda. Give them the whole spiel
because they said, you know, toppay was 1750 an hour and I was
like the most I had ever made was $9.
I'm going to be a millionaire. Yeah, that's what you just said.

(38:13):
You're you're you're giving me fortunes beyond my belief for
doing this. OK, All right.
Yes, I know everything to do with this.
So the assistant that we had at the time, because you have the
machine operator and then you have the assistant and the
assistant like runs the machine while the operator's out.
You try to teach them everything.
But this assistant was, he was like, you know, real comfortable

(38:34):
with just being an assistant. So I get down there and a lot of
the times, like when you got leeway at the box shop, it was
because you were the dude, you know what I'm saying?
Like if it was your time to get randomly drug tested.
They let you know a little. Bit they run down there and just
be like run outside door and I say you weren't here, like, you
know, saying if they had an ideathat you were doing drugs, but

(38:57):
they, they called the assistant for a drug drug test like 3 days
into it. I'll tell you another funny
story about. So when I started there my first
day, he walks up to me and he just tells like a just like a
racist joke when No, no, like, you know, well thought out
punched. Like if you could, if you could
tell me a racist joke that's like funny outside of the box.
Maybe the the joke is insinuated.
Whatever. Cool.

(39:17):
You know, if it's just a blank stereotype, ma'am, I'm saying
the N word during this. There's not that good.
But I look up dead in the face after he tells me that and I'm
like, yeah, well, my wife's black in my daughter's mix, so.
And he's just like, listen, bud,I was like, what jokes are?
Actually, he's. Like people, I don't believe
that. And I'm just like, calm down,
bud. He's like, fine and he's like.
That was a joke. He was actually, he, he was a

(39:39):
real fun guy, but they call him to get the, the drug test and he
had smoked the weekend before. So he came clean about it
thinking like, you know, I'm gonna come clean and and they
fired him and he only smoked that one time.

(40:00):
And I was like, that probably wouldn't even have popped up on
the drug dust. Yeah, just the roll the dice.
He took a couple hits and he just, he told him and he was
like, I'm I'm just going to be honest with you guys and they're
like, all right, well, you're fired.
So then I got to be the assistant for him for it was I
probably so I was going to get two weeks of training and I

(40:21):
probably got like 2 months whileanother guy came in and trained
and then he quit because it was like fuck this is jobs hard as
fuck. And kind of rotated people in
and out. So when I go on my own down
there and it's time for me, I just, I forgot everything that I
learned on 1st. And there would be some days I'd
just be covered head to toe and ink and they'd be like, what,
what could possibly happen for you to look like that?

(40:43):
And I was like, things just started happening and I did not
know how to control it. So whatever.
And I'm going through this like week after week covered in shit,
tired, like fucking confused every day that I leave.
And one day I'm walking out and I'm just, I got like covered in
ink. Look like I just went through
war. Half the things I'm like, I

(41:04):
don't, I don't know what's happening.
I'm sending stuff out. Hopefully it's good.
And I walked by the plant manager.
He's like, man, you're doing a real good job.
I'm like. Thanks.
Who the fuck have you been watching work?
And then he kept saying that too.
And I was like, man, this guy fucking, he don't know what good
work is. And eventually over time, you
know, I started to get it, get areally good hold of it probably

(41:27):
sucked me. So what happened was, is when I
went to go do it, I'm a month in, I go to my shift alone to do
it. They're paying me like $9 an
hour temp temp money. And I get my check and I open it
up and it's like $1213.00 an hour that I got paid for.
I was like, Oh no, they fucked up.
Like I don't know if I should gospend this money because they
had my hours listed wrong. So I went and talked to Steve

(41:48):
who the the supervisor that all the mics gets are named after of
named. After Cool guy, Yeah and.
He was like, yeah, why? Why am I going to be like, he's
down there by himself doing it. It doesn't matter how fucking
what. What if you're doing a bad job
or a good job, you're down thereby yourself doing it.
You're not going to get paid $9 an hour.
So you could be like, fuck this and then walk out.
So I was like, oh, fuck. So I showed my wife that she's

(42:09):
like, baby, we made it. This is, this is it.
We made it like good God and then after a while, you know,
I'm getting the hang of it and I'm I'm doing what I think is
good. My numbers are now comparable to
the 1st and 2nd shift guys. Well, they're beating the 2nd
shift guys. It's the first shift guy I want
to beat, but I'm doing well and I get the top.
Hey, so or plant manager, which very eccentric guy.

(42:35):
Like in a meeting, he'd be like,I got a long swinging Dick boy
not swinging around here. However the fuck I want to.
He was mad when it took time. When it was time to be mad, he
was mad. But normally he was just like a
cool guy and he's very approachable too, But he would
just he would tell me every day,even if I was doing a shit job.
He was just like cuz when when aman's leaving work and he's
tired. If you tell me he did a good job
that day. Makes.

(42:55):
You feel good. He's like, that's a whole
different mindset. He's like, you just work 12
hours fucking sweating, thinkingeverything you did wrong.
And then at the end of the day, someone's like, good job.
They changed the whole perception of how you did.
And then they'd be some days he'd be like, where the fuck is
Michael Wright in these fucking memes?
People like people like he was like somebody go out there and
tell his fat ass to get the fuckin here.

(43:18):
And they'd come down there and tell me because I'd still be
like at the machine or somethingtalking to the fucking first
shift operator. And he said what?
And I quote and then I quote. But what's cool there too is, is
you could fucking like a supervisor come up to you and
they're like fucking jawing at you.
Well, you'd be like, shut the fuck up bro.
I'm down here trying to fucking operate this goddamn shit.
And then they would take you to the office and be like, well, he

(43:40):
cussed at me firearm. And he would be like, well, did
you cuss at him? And he's like, yeah, well then
how about y'all fucking whiny bitches get the fuck out of my
office and go work. So that was the the dopest
environment. But also when I became
supervisor at the other plant, Ikind of took that with it too.
What of like, building people up?
No, no, no. The we could be argumentative

(44:01):
and kind of say what we want because there was one guy who
would always complain about the operator being real rough on
them. And I'd be like, I was like, did
your parents know that they raised a pussy?
And I'm just playing like, I don't, I'm not really saying
that to you. He went and reported me to HR.
And then the best part too was is so back during that time, I

(44:25):
was very like left-leaning. I was in thick on the.
Woke. On the wokeness, Yeah, yeah, I
was bought in, bro. It was like social justice
warrior. People were hurting and I was
like, I want to save them, I'll save all the black people.
But we had just got had a guy came in now the plant manager,
everybody above the plant manager, real Republican guys

(44:47):
and we play poker and stuff likethat.
They're real Republican guys. So we had this temp come in who
was gay, all right, And they quit because they're like, this
job is very, very, very, very hard.
And I don't want to do it. But the reason they put for the
reason that they were, they quitis because I was being
homophobic towards them. God, that's the funniest fucking

(45:08):
HR meeting because we sit in there and we have the general
managers in there and the we do not agree on politics at all.
No at all. Like I said, I'm real woke and
he's not. So he's like, listen, I could
probably believe him if he accused any, anybody other than
him, anybody else other than him, I could believe it.

(45:29):
I was like, he's not going to bethe one to say that.
Like I would be a Dick, but I wouldn't be a Dick about like I
wouldn't joke about race and stuff like that.
You know, sexual fucking preferences, orientation or
whatever. But yeah, when he was just like
I, I, if anybody, if he said anybody else, yeah, sure, I
could get, but him, no. And the next I was like,
alright, so closed. And they're like, yeah.

(45:50):
And I go back now. I went up there one time and I
forgot what the fuck I had said.But apparently he had felt
threatened. Threatened by the way I said the
gay guy. No, no, no, no.
This was one of the operators. Little dude, little dude, like a
bucked in 30 year old or 25 yearold man, whatever.

(46:10):
But I said something just like matter of factly and I was like,
we ain't going to discuss it anymore.
And he took that as no more talking, we're going to fight.
Which is so funny too, because Isaid this to old crackhead guy
that I used to. He was so fun to work with, but
he would like snap his, his whole personality would change
at the like the drop of a hat and he would want to fight

(46:32):
somebody. And I'd be like, look, you can't
fight the operator because I'm training him and he has an
operator. The operator doesn't really know
what he's doing because he's training to be an operator.
And he'd be like, man, we alwaysgot bad numbers because he was
like, it doesn't matter because you come in here, you work your
shift. It doesn't matter if you get
good numbers, bad numbers, yeah,you just leave.
We don't have any more money based on either one.
They don't do bonuses here. We don't get any money based on

(46:52):
either one. Yeah, so he's like he's like, I
don't see what you're saying. I'm be angry and I'm a I'm a
beat C JS ass and I'm like, no, no, no, we don't do that.
So one day I tell him I'm like, look, man, I'm just done.
I'm tired. I'm done explaining it to you.
And he was like, oh, So what we doing?
I was like, I'm not going to fight you.
I'm not going. We had one guy.
He was like a crip and me and I loved him, but me and him are

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talking. I'm not going to put his name,
and I usually throw people's names out there, but you?
Just say operator. He's a, he's a good guy.
He's a good guy. He talked about all the beats he
made for all these famous rappers and stuff.
And I was like, OK, but, but we're, we're sitting there
talking and this he, this guy's a crib.
He's got like a blue bandana andstuff like that.
And he's going who, who, who talk about who like in the
story, he's like, you a motherfucking owl man.
And then like literally like thefucking Crips said something.

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This dude was the epitome. He's like 5-4, the epitome of
well, yeah, wind blows and and Iwas, you know, and, and that
felt like a challenge to me because he starts like closing
his lid. He's like getting up and every
single body is holding the little guy back while the six
foot tall dude Crip was just like, you know, not getting held

(48:03):
back because he's like, well, I'm tough, yada, yada, yada.
And then and he was like, well, I'm gonna go to my truck, see
how tough you are. And we knew too, like there is.
That's the crip or that's. The no, no, no little guy, we
called him dirt. All right, we knew that he was
not playing. If he was going to go to his
car, there was a higher than 0% chance that he would come back
with a gun just because we knew his personality too.

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But that's what I got like I gotin trouble for twice because you
know, when I said I'm tired of explaining to him, and then I
said I'm tired of explaining to him.
So then I go to HR and I'm like,you know, I said I was tired of
explaining that. And she was like, well, that can
you see how that sounds threatening?
I'm like not even a little bit. No, I'm literally just saying
like I'm. Tired of trying to?
Explain something 6 times. I'm tired of explaining it.

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How does that sound? And she was like, well, it
sounds like you're trying to fight somebody.
I'm like it does not ever. Now, if you were taking your
shirt off while you're doing it,like I'm tired of explaining it,
I. Couldn't do the supervisor thing
though, too, because like, there's a difference between
playing around and being a Dick and then having to tell
everybody they have to work on Saturday when we're ahead.
And then the whole time I got the production manager just
being lying. We'll just think how good it's
going to look. Nobody gives a fuck about how

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good it looks. Everybody gives a fuck about
spending time with their family.But he's the he's the reason I
started the felonious falafel videos.
See, that's The thing is when I left my last job like I was, I
was basically right about to be in the supervisor position.
And there is nothing about that that I wanted like, I mean, yes,
the pay fantastic. But outside of that, like I

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don't want to tell people, yeah,like, you know, like, especially
because we were working 24/7, 365, like somebody was working
every minute of the day for the whole year, like forever.
And so like to tell people like,sorry, like you're going to miss
your kids birthday, you're goingto miss Christmas, you're going
to miss Thanksgiving, you're going to miss their recitals.
Like unless you just have your fucking vacation worked out

(49:57):
perfectly, like you're going to miss a lot of shit.
And like, I can't, I can't do anything about that.
And like, so just watching like my supervisor have to go through
that with people. And like, I mean, a lot of the
people there were like young guys that were just fucking
hungry. And so they're like, I'll take
your shift, I'll take your shift, I'll I'll work if like
and so a lot of that. Stuff I'm under this truck
payment that I cannot I have to pay some of those a month yeah

(50:19):
they. Had a fucking like 1000 like
$1200 truck payments and I was just like don't maybe just don't
buy the fucking house truck likethe $125,000 truck like it's
cool. I I agree that thing looks
fucking cool. But if you ugly bitches going to
be like man, look at that reallyugly guy driving that nice drug.
But my fucking first house cost $123,000.
So like, yeah, like that's crazy.

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That's crazy, bud. And especially when you're
trying to pay it off in fucking seven or eight years that like,
you know, 7% interest. Rate and it's, it's hard to
because you do see kind of some of what these companies complain
about, about getting guys in there.
And fuck if it's just if you go through a temp service where
there has to, there's no, there's no, what's the word for

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it? You don't, you don't care where
people, there's no expectation of the people you're bringing
in. You're going to have an
incredibly high turnover rate. The worst part is teaching
someone how to read a tape measure.
Because when I started working, I don't want to sound like a
Jackass, but you know, I went through 3rd grade where we use
rulers and stuff like that. So I can be like, yeah, an inch,
an eighth, half an inch, 3/8, it's 3/4, you know, And they're

(51:26):
like, wow, and you net, you worked in a restaurant And I was
like, yeah, restaurant Biscuitville made some bland ass
biscuits. I don't know why people eat that
shit, but Yep, that's what I did.
And they're like, you know how to read tape measure.
And I was like, why are you guys?
Why are you guys acting like areyou?
Guys trying to you trying to getI was.
Like you went to 3rd grade, right?
Everybody went to 3rd grade and then I started training people
and I'd be like, all right, so you know how to read tape

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measure and then be like, what the fuck is?
Why would you assume I knew whatthat was?
Firstly, I'm I'm now insulted that you have named things that
I don't know what they are without showing me what they
are. And I'm like, OK, so you know,
in school when you had rulers and he was like, no, what?
Who fucking who? Who measured things in?
You mean that long straight thingy?

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Yeah, that long straight thingy with the words on it.
Yeah. So I but you always got the best
readings from it because you'd be like, how long is that?
And they'd be like 32 and 1233 of the little lines.
You got that one big one in between.
So I'm like, all right, 32, three sixteenths.
And just like writing everythingdown.
I learned how to just interpret it in a different style.
But it was so baffling. And then you would get guys who

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are once you get like a guy who's 32 to 40 and they've had a
lot of experience. They know how to read a tape
measure. They know what they're doing.
You're just like, at a certain point you're like, yeah, but
what's wrong with them? Like you don't want to just
assume. You don't want to be like, well,
the economy's tough. Because if you work in a
factory, the good thing about factory in the hard work and
shit like that is is you can getto another factory where nobody

(52:51):
wants to work and you can go work there tomorrow.
And be a king King shit of shit mountain.
Right, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. If you, if you know what you're
doing, like I could go to a box shop right now and they just
like, yeah, can you start now? Can you just can go.
We ain't even going to drug testyou.
Honestly, just can you go start doing it?
And I'm just like, well, what's like maybe maybe, you know, they

(53:12):
lost a job so they went to a temp service and that's how it
is. And then, you know, they work
real good for the week. And then Friday comes along and
they're just sitting there like,Oh yeah, you know, my mom, my
mom right now, man, she's going through it, brother.
And I'm gonna have to, I'm gonnahave to go home and be with.
And you think they took all of it?
Yeah. You think they fucking took it
there on the phone? Just you think they took all.

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Yeah, my wife's saying that. My mom's hearts.
I was, I was like, it sounds like you got robbed for you
meth, buddy, because I can see you on meth, right.
It sounds like you got robbed via myth.
So you got to go check on my Nah, man.
It's my mom. It's not the myth.
It's my mom. And there's we had one forklift
driver. Great.
Yeah, every forklift driver thatwe got that was amazing.
I was just like fuck, like something was always.

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And it wasn't like a little thing that was wrong.
It was you can't work here anymore, dog.
So the first one we got, he was amazing.
Great. He came over from the High Point
plant, but he started working over there.
Well, on Saturday he went to work at the High Point plant,
got into a fight with a supervisor, so they let him go.

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And I was like, well, you know. That was over there.
You could just bring him back. Over there, it's not over here.
And they're like, no, he's a very violent individual, no.
Just bring him back over. Here he would scream shot.
I kill everybody, I kill y'all fuck, I kill everybody.
I was like, we've never seen that side of him.
So if you just want to bring himback over here, he's never
claimed to kill anybody. The next guy we get, he goes out
to his car during lunch and saysthat somebody stole an ounce

(54:37):
from his car. He tells me about that and I'm
like, I what? What do I do with that
information? Because you're telling me they
stole your drugs. They stole your drugs.
So he leaves and tells me that he yells to the guys over at one
machine who had nothing to do with him.
Misplaced. He misplaced his drugs.
That's what happened. You know that for a fact.

(54:59):
Yes, oh God, yes, so and it's just the it's the most baffling
isn't. That so funny though when that
happens, like somebody stole my shit, somebody stole and then
all of a sudden it's like well. Yeah, I know.
I'm. Overreacting I like I found it
but. He looked at him.
He said, yeah, when I get back, I'm airing this whole place out.
And I'm like, you just said thatin front of everybody on the
floor. I have to now call somebody.
Yeah. So I call the production

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manager. I'm like, hey, bud.
So a guy started accusing some of the and everybody smokes
weed, everybody. And I'm talking to the
production manager and he's like, he's accusing our, our,
none of our guys even do that stuff.
And I'm just like, that's what Isaid.
That's what I told you. That's.
Exactly none of them are thieves.
I can tell you that none of themare thieves.
Everybody smokes. And I was just like, that's what

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I said. And he said he was going to air
the whole place out. So he comes up there and he like
lines up. He has cops like lie, he's
fucking, he's in with them. I got to tell you stories about
this guy one day because he was the type.
He just, he was a character. He started felonious falafel,
but he was a character. He was the guy that made you
pissed off enough to do it. Yeah, so the place is lined up

(56:08):
with cops and the guy comes backand he does have a weapon on
him. But when he gets out the car,
he's just like, hey, guys, I understand.
Like the cops are up to him. It's like, get on the ground,
get on the fucking ground. So his hand, he's like on the
ground. He's like, I understand.
I said I was going to kill everybody.
OK. I have misplaced something that
was in my car. And then because I misplaced it,

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I assume somebody stole it. So I was.
And if somebody stole your stuffand he's explaining this why
he's in very calm demeanor. Yeah.
They decided to let him go. Oh, really?
Yeah. He did not quit.
They decided to let him go. So.
Oh. No, no, I mean the police like
after he said that his drugs were missing like the nothing he
got charged, nothing ended up happening, he got.
Charged because I guess they talked with the production

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manager and he's like, I don't care, he's fired, he didn't
allow back so I don't care what y'all do.
But then we get the next one. The next one is the one that he
cooked a lot of Colombian food and he would come in and sell
it, sell plates at work. And then the production manager
was like, that's not allowed. We have food, all these food
regulations. And we had one of those
convenience stores in the lunch room that, you know, if you

(57:16):
wanted to spend. You're just talking about like,
with a $20 shit load. Yeah, Yeah, like.
What's a convenience store? They have the the coolers of
stuff you can buy and you go up to a checkout thing and yeah,
that's what they have. All we had was like the we
called the wheel of death, but like it was like literally just
like a. No, they have a whole machine
Doritos slim jams. It looks like the whole inside

(57:38):
snack part of a convenience store and then they got hot food
spinning and you grab it and youtake it to the checkout thing
and then you check it out. Is there a person there or is
it? No, it's just all 500 cameras,
cameras in every single location.
That and, and it's crazy too, because we'd have people steal
from there and then get fired for sure.
They would, yeah, they would give me this whole spiel about
them because I did not watch anyof the cameras.

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That had nothing to do with that.
But if that like someone had stole something, was continuing
stealing stuff, they'd be like, well, you know, these guys are
coming in because obviously we have to fire whoever's stealing
from the from the store. And they would come and sit down
me and be like, yeah, I was the one taking it.
And I was like, what do you think I can do here with that
information? Like I can't even they're not
even going to talk to me. They're just going to come in
tomorrow with fucking HR and everybody in the GM and they're

(58:21):
going to fire you. This is all going to happen.
That's all that's going to happen.
But he would bring in these plates that we would buy.
And the production manager was like, yeah, we got all these
food regulations and. You're just stealing from the
company store like by not buyingfrom the company.
Store no, no, because I straightup told him I was like well this
is fucked. I don't want to spend this
money. The guys don't want to spend
this money if he's going to cookand he's like trying to make

(58:42):
money. I was like, So what happens if
we buy it from across the streetand just bring it in?
He was like, well then I guess Ican't say nothing about that.
And I was like, OK, so guys, what we're going to do is we're
going to buy it from them from across the street.
And then we're going to we can come in here with your plates
because it's not being sold here.
So he was a really, really good one.
That was the one that was like showing me pictures.
Of his wife and then he corneredthe guy in the parking.

(59:04):
Lot. He cornered the guy in the
parking lot. I think I told that story on
here and very heavily insinuatedthat he was going to molest a
grown man. And I was just like, yeah, yeah,
you can't work here anymore. They was like, yeah, we had to
let them go and I'm sorry. You still buy my food?
I assumed I assumed well after the him showing me the wife

(59:25):
stuff and the real I was like Nah because I don't want to like
buy his food if he's like nothing in it because I could
have already ate that and. Just extra protein, right?
Just extra protein. Whatever.
Salt soap seasoning. Yeah, that's that's why they
were that salty. So we had him and then we had a
white guy come in just like a country boy and he would do so

(59:47):
good man. Every Friday he would say my
grandpa's dying. And you could see like he was
battling with, he didn't want todo them.
He was battling with drugs. And what's crazy is, is we
didn't have a forklift driver. I was the forklift driver.
If we didn't have a banner, I was banned.
And if we didn't have a Saturn operator, I was the Saturn
operator. I was whoever didn't come in.

(01:00:07):
And if multiple people didn't come in, I was doing multiple
jobs. So.
It was just real rough too, man.And he'd be like, well, you can
understand. And like the first first time
I'm just like, yeah, I can understand.
The second time I was like, yeah, I can understand.
And the third Friday in a row, I'm just like, you got points,
bro. They're going to, they're going
to eventually not be cool with that.

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And then he would not come in for like 2 days at a time, three
days at a time. I'm like, listen, but there's
nothing I can tell these guys. It doesn't matter how good you
are if you ain't here to do the good job.
I understand this is rough but you got to figure out which one
line. So they fired him for points,
but then they brought him back acouple months later and
obviously whatever he was going through progress more because
then he'd just be like, I ain't coming in for a week.
He only lasts like 2 weeks afterthat.

(01:00:48):
Real good at what he did, but. Yeah, we had this one forklift
like because we had squeezed lifts when I was at the factory
because we were picking up like gigantic rolls of fabric and
stuff like that. But one of the forklift
operators there, he smoked a lotof fucking weed, a ton of
fucking weed. But like, he looked like Willie

(01:01:08):
Nelson. Like legit looked like Willie
Nelson could have like you know how they have Elvis Presley like
look alike things. He in his normal average
everyday close. He could win a Willie Nelson
contest, although, and it was funny because he, I don't know
how he did it, but he ended up having he stabbed this 250

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gallon tote of chemicals and notknowingly like he picked
something up off the trailer, brought it into the factory.
But when he did that, he poked the thing.
And so then when the tractor trailer pulled out of the
parking lot and like went, it was going around to like another
spot. It was just leaking chemicals
like all over the road. So there's like hazmat and like

(01:01:52):
all the shit like just fucking crazy fire trucks and everybody
trying to clean up all these chemicals and somehow still had
his job. I don't know how the fuck like
like they had to have piss tested him because like
obviously there was an accident.There was a bunch of like police
and things like that. So no matter how well you want
to cover this, I don't know how he did it because like I mean
homie would literally just smokeall fucking day at work.

(01:02:15):
Like after work, before work alllike just stoned all the time
and just Nope, did not get fired.
So when I was like 1819 it was I, I believe it is my second
job, my first job ever was East Coast wings.
So this is my second job I have ever worked and it was at like
this little factory place. Can I ask you a question about
East Coast wings before we get into this?

(01:02:35):
Yeah. So whenever you order wings
there, the heat level is never the same.
So if you order magma wings, this.
Week So what they mix them in what they mix them in is never
cleaned out. So like say someone like got
suicide wings wherever it is like it's fried, they like do it
up right there and then they'll like send them out.
So sometimes, like they'll wipe it out, they'll clean it out,

(01:02:56):
but some they just don't. So you could get the heat from
because I mean, sometimes you'llorder like extra hot or
something like that and it comesout damn near mild and then
sometimes you'll get extra hot and it's magma.
The way suicide, the way I look back there.
So they had the line, which I would never really, 'cause I was
the busboy, it would never really go to where they were
cooking in the line. But they would have like, you'd

(01:03:17):
have the grills and everything on the back.
You had the fryers and everything in the front.
And then he would send it next to him and then he has literally
these big vats of sauce and nothing is labeled.
And I'm just like, well, everything.
What did they do back here? How they do all that stuff?
Yeah, because there's like 50 different flavors and then like
each one of those you can get in10 different.
He's none of us really cared about the job, we all just cared

(01:03:38):
about hitting on women. Yeah, no, there's some good look
and waitresses. There, yeah, which was the worst
place because I was with my girlfriend there and I just got
into so many situations too. My friend that got me the job
there was like, well, let's there's a dealer that is this is
talking about some of Mike's crimes now, but there's a dealer

(01:03:58):
there that is stepping on my territory.
And I don't know why in my 1819 year old white mind was just
like the audacity, you know, I'mlike, that's your territory.
That's your territory, bud. Yeah.
And he's like, so we need to robhim.
And I was like complete sense. Absolutely.
Yeah. Who would suspect us who
actually work here that cops would never suspect that.
So he gets off one day and we goto do it and it's not AI don't

(01:04:24):
think it was a crime. I don't think anybody cared
because they just saw people in the woods.
And we took off running like oneof the girls did.
One of the girls from the side saw us and they were like, oh
God, there's like people in the woods right there.
He was almost throwing the shit away because we had a plan that
the manager or what, whoever wasworking there was going to tell
him to throw away some trash. And that's where we're going to.
We're just going to beat him up,rob him a little bit.
Yeah and just one of the girls standing out there was like,

(01:04:47):
there's people in the woods. There's like 4 people in the
woods. I was like God damn, how well
could she see? Like I'm sitting there blind.
I need a fucking Bugs Bunny withyou wearing.
Charity and ass. Fucking bitch this is fucking
this is a Tuesday night. Like you telling me we got
bitches with good eyesight on Tuesday nights.
Where is the East Coast Thomasville?
No. North Main Street, High Point.
High Point. OK, yeah, yeah, we was in there.

(01:05:08):
We was doing all sorts of gang activities with white people,
too. I was just.
It was so, it was so funny to just be a we're going to get off
work and then we're going to go break into this drug dealer's
house and we're going to beat him up.
And I was just like, yeah, that's what we're going to do.
That's what we're doing on a Friday night.
Yeah. And then after that we could get
into something else if you want to like, I mean, but yeah,
we're. Good.
The funniest part about that toois, is my brother was like

(01:05:30):
because he gave my friend that like the information on him and
he was just like, that's the funniest one we did was I don't
know how familiar you are with High Point.
I mean. OK, so up on, I want to say
where you're going towards Archdale and you got all the
motels and stuff, right? So we are right here at the one

(01:05:55):
where if you go right down the road, the police department's
there and we're like, man, we gotta do this quick.
We gotta be efficient like some bank robbers, like people.
We are. Not roll out the blueprints be
like, we're gonna go here and then this is you.
So that's. Involved the Jonathan guy that I
had spoke about because we were going to.
I don't know why we were gonna beat him up, but this is after
the time where my brother wasn'tfriends with him anymore, so he

(01:06:18):
was an enemy and he had done something that we were going to
beat him up. It involved the friend that.
Is you realize that we have police that listen to this and
they're just like putting all this stuff together.
Stuff like we didn't kill anybody.
Everything, everything is the statue of limitations as well up
on this shit. So yeah, look into it.
But we kicked the door down, I kicked the door down and I felt
cool as. Bet you fucking I felt cool as

(01:06:41):
did you do like a forward kick I.
Was like I stood like a donkey kick and I fell on my back too,
but like if I fell on my back and it didn't like budget at
all, I'd have been like but. I love 20.
But we do it, man. And this is where I get like
fucked up and I'm like, I'm not fit for a life of crime.
So we do that. It's the wrong room anyways.
He's like 2 doors down, OK. At a motel, right?

(01:07:02):
Yeah, he's just knocked down. The gun, we know he has a gun,
so he wanted to do it fast before he had time to get to the
gun. Because if he's in that fucking
or something like that, we know we got, you know, guns are not
magical automatically. If someone, like if someone were
to break in somewhere or attack you and, and like if you have a
gun on your hip and someone wereto attack you with a knife in
public, that gun's probably not going to be able to get used.

(01:07:24):
People think a gun's just like an automatic wind.
If people like are able to get into, especially a motel where
there's no room, if it's a houseand you're upstairs, of course
you're going to have time to getyour gun.
Protect family. Yada yada yada, but when your
door is right. Right.
That's what we, we were like, we're going to be able to do
that. So we kick that door in.
He's alerted, he's heard, we know like now he's had time to
get the gun. But as we're walking away from

(01:07:45):
this guy who has his lady of thenight there, oh man.
Oh, just random. Just.
Random motel has his lady of thenight there.
As we're running by, this just little Pakistan man comes out
and he's just like, look at the door and I'm just like.
I'm. Sorry stop for a second.
I'm just like well listen bud, if I didn't have to run right
now, I'm sorry just took off right?

(01:08:07):
I had to fix it bro. We so Scott, my sister's
boyfriend, he had the worst fucking time with.
If he got caught, he would stop,like, say a car was.
He would stop and then talk to the person and then go back to
the scene of the crime to try tofix whatever happened.

(01:08:29):
Would never snitch on anybody's like, yeah, I don't know any of
those guys. Those were guys I just met up
and they were like, hey, you want to do this?
And I was like, yeah. And eventually the cops found
out he was too stupid to ever. Like what if we?
Gave you life in prison. He's just like this.
What I'd do for the gang of white people that we had, I
don't understand. He was like he.
Was a solid dude. He is a solid guy, but like I
said, it was a bunch of people doing crime that didn't really

(01:08:52):
have it in them. Yeah.
So one time we walked by this church and the church, look, we
were kids. You know, I think I was around
1718 when this happens. But we walk by the sun and it's
like God says something, something, something, whatever.
So we go up to the sun and we'rekids.

(01:09:12):
So we do this all the time. Like I said, 1718, you're not an
adult. But I changed the sign to say
God said touch my Weiner. That's it.
It says God says touch my Weiner.
It's the one beside Nick's sub shop on Green St. in High Point,
E Green St. East Green Drive in High Point.
But I changed it to say God saystouch my Weiner.
All right. And I'm like, ha, ha, that's
funny. Like all of a sudden we hear a

(01:09:34):
sign say, Daryl, get out here. A lady from across the street
sees out there doing. She's like, Oh my God, that sign
says, God says touch my Weiner. So we all take off running.
This lady gets in her car and drives up and sky just stops.
And I'm like, bro, run. There's terrain.
We're going into the woods. Like you don't have to walk

(01:09:55):
parallel with the road. But he's just like sitting there
and I see him turn back and we we run through like the the
woods. We live on URA Rd.
We run through the woods. We're going through the woods up
to where we live at. And he's not there.
Eventually he walks in. He's like, yeah, the cops were
called, but we didn't vandalize nothing.

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We literally did nothing except we changed the words on the
side. So the cops stood there while
Scott changed back. The God said touch my Wiener
sign to whatever the preacher wanted to say.
Conveniently enough, while Scottand the cops are talking, before
they get the sign changed, the preacher driving his van full of
kids pulls up and they're just ready for for church and they
see what the guy's done. And the preacher, he was like

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then I felt doubly bad because the preacher was like, he's
like, you want some, We got somedrinks inside.
I'm gonna bring you some drinks out here while you do this.
And he was just like being like a godly guy, you know what I'm
saying? Like a real godly guy.
I was just like, you know, This is why we don't you don't mess
with anybody. I wouldn't, you know, if you had
a business, I wouldn't change the signs of your business.
And I wouldn't even think about doing something like.
That on my weapon. He was like, you know, if any
time you know, you want to learnor get to know God, then you

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just come down here, bud. And he was like, I felt so
fucking bad. So then he was like, you know,
he's fucking tired because walking to this it's like only
like 2 miles away but it's summertime too, so it's hot as
shit. And he was like, he asked the
cop. He was like, can you give me a
ride back? And the cops like fuck no
fucking walk you fucking criminal.
Like that guy, that preacher might love you, but I don't.

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I can't, I can't remember what we there was a a little used car
dealership in my town and I lived about 1/2 mile outside of
town. And so we walked up one night
and like, like I said, my town was tiny and so there's never
cars driving by. So we did the same thing.
I can't remember what the fuck we wrote on the sign though, but
it was like the full on like arrow sign.

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So there's plenty of words that we can make out of it.
It was just something stupid though.
The funniest time though for us,I think it was me and my buddy
Josh. We were maybe 1516, He's like a
year older than me and his mom was off with like a boyfriend or
something for the night. And so I stayed over there and
we were just, you know, left to our own devices.
And so we were touring through town all, all night, stayed up

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literally all night. And they were doing repairs on
the school. Actually, I think they're
building an addition onto the school.
And so they had a ladder just literally stuck up against the
the school. You can just walk up and get
into the school. And so like, you know, this is
AK through 12 school. So I've been going there since I

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was in preschool and you know, by this time I'm in, you know,
9th grade or something like that.
And we just end up spending a long time in the school all
night because there's no like security alarms, motion sensors,
like, you know, you think that obviously all that stuff's going
to happen. No, none of it.
Like I think if we would have opened a door to leave, probably
would have gotten the the alarmsto go off.

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But I mean, we were racing down the hallway with the rolly
chairs and just acting a fool. And the last thing that we did
was we climbed up onto the roof and then we peed off the roof
onto the new library, like skylight that they had put up
there. And so we were just up there
peeing off the roof. And then I think a car pulled up

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the the one road and we're like,oh, shit.
Like they might have seen us. So we got down and we were
hanging out in in the downtown area like 7:30 in the morning.
No 1516 year old kids going to be up at 7:30 in the morning
riding their bikes through town.Doing good things right?
Yeah. At all, like, I mean, being in
existence at all other than theystayed up all night like being

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hooligans. And so as as it happens, a
police car comes up and he's like, hey, there's two kids that
were up on top of the school, like blah, blah, blah.
And I don't think he said that like they were urinating or
anything. But he's like, hey, they were up
on top of the school. And then so he's sitting there
talking to me and at this moment, don't know why, but my

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mom literally drives by like right there we're talking to the
cops, telling the cops we didn'tdo anything, blah, blah, weird.
And like he basically describes us like just describes us for A
to AT and he's like, well, if you guys hear anything like let
me know. And then my mom pulls up and
she's like, why were you guys talking to the cops?
And we're like, I don't know. They said like some kids were

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doing something blah, blah. And so like me being 15, I'm
like, oh, totally got away Scottfree.
I'm an idiot because literally the cop knew that it was us.
The fucking my mom knew that it was us.
I was the only one that actuallybelieved like, Yep, got away
with that one. We're so smooth.
We're we're smooth criminals. Like, but that was me at like
1516 years old all the time justdoing absolutely benign crimes,

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but still. Like we'd always do, we would do
crime crimes. But what's so funny, too, is
like, you would hear you hear stories about like, kids
throwing rocks off our overpasses.
And we just be. Like that could kill somebody.
We're not fucking moron. We're not like serial killers
here. Like we.
So I remember I told you the story about the wing man and the
guys that were drunk driving. So one of the guys there, I told

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you I had knew. And they were like, yeah, we're
going to go do that. And I was like, it's like a big
deal that that had just happenedand killed, you know, some lady
in North Carolina. And he was like, yeah, that's
why we're going to go do it. And I was just like, yeah, Are
is it like a edge thing? Are you trying to be edgy or?
How about you guys driving with the underpass and then we'll
throw the rock though? Right, yeah, like how about we

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just aim it at you guys? The the funniest thing too is is
before we were like of age to really do the like get in
trouble, bro, we would take pellet guns.
We all like my brother. He is, he's one of the type of
guys who's my middle brother. I told you he's a sweetheart.
But he's always had like a fascination with samurai swords.

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You can imagine the guy, you know, the dragon button up.
He was always that guy, but he always had like pellet guns and
stuff like that. And I'm telling you what,
though, if we would be in the hood of High Point shooting
people with guns, with pellet guns, I just running away, just
up in the projects just like back, back, back.

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And like at first you see, hey, man, there's a bee sting in me.
Like they just like do like that.
And then they'd be like, Oh no, I see one of those.
And then. Get the fuck out on.
We go to the apartment. Fuck, now this one I don't know
if there's a statute of limitations on so don't get.
Yourself arrested because I can't run this by myself.
I don't give a fuck. I love because we're just like,

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it's not like we want to. We had OPS, of course, we had
people that didn't like us and stuff.
And you know, this was during night, night time and I had to
portray this character, even if I didn't want to a lot of times
I could just like talk everybodyout of the crazy stuff like the
going to war with the the fake, the fake folk, the the folk gang

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made of all white people becausethat, you know, that's allowed
in gangs. But we go up to the the cookout
on South Main Street and behind there's the apartment complexes.
So we are at my friend's house and he's dating this girl.
And this girl obviously knows that she has gotten with the
wrong guy like she is towards the end of the I'm done with all

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this. You will never get a job.
All you do is drugs. I'm sitting here working, my
child's here. I'm so tired.
Oh my God, why are your friends here today?
So we're there. I could tell she is very, very
upset and does not want us to bearound.
And she is. This is really close to when
their relationship was over. But he goes into the room and he
hands me this shotgun. I'm not a person that plays with

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guns often, so I I don't like touching guns.
It's not been a thing of mine. I've been very gun oriented.
So he hands it to me and I'm just like, oh cool, a shotgun.
And I go, if a gun does that, bythe way, don't then pull the
trigger. If even if someone told you it
was empty, it's not empty. No, it's not empty because I've
seen to blow a hole in the roof of the fucking of that apartment

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complex. Was there?
Statute of limitations, Yes, there's people living above.
Holy fuck nugget dude. I'm pretty sure nobody got hurt.
I'm almost 100% sure nobody got hurt.
But we then take off running after their, I think an
accidental gunshot. Like if you if we're all then
chill about it. The cops just come looking

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around. I don't know if it would have
actually went into the other side because it was the
birdshot, not buckshot. Yeah, but it definitely left a
hole in the roof of above my head.
So we all take off running like we just murdered somebody inside
of the which caused a big fucking scene, which the the
bomb threat that my brother did when they that caused the that
lockdown, the whole fucking Walmart.

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There was so many cops too. I'm surprised when they came to
school to get me. It wasn't just two detectives
like we know it was you, I guessbecause it wasn't a bomb and
they thought it was just somebody fucking off.
But yeah, that was a by the timeI learned if if the shotgun
makes the sound, something just got chambered because, you know,
my friend, it sucks not being able to say their names anymore,

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especially one because he's a very high-ranking member of a
racist organization right now. But he's sitting there telling
me he's like, yeah, he people are like, how are you friends
with that guy? Because he showed no signs of
that. Like he would listen to Tupac
and stuff and rap and it never never said anything that he was
more of a anti government guy. Then somehow he got with some
more anti government friends andthey were like, you know what,

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what if it ain't the government?What if it's black people?
And then he just like stared around, see if everybody agreed
with him. And then apparently my friend
was just like, yeah, it makes sense.
I don't know what happened to him.
He was of like a real cool dude when to an extent when he was
singing that with me, but he told me then he was like, yeah,
if you hear the that's somethingchambering.
And then because he was, he had a real big fascination with

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guns, had a bunch of guns. Yeah, see, we were I used to
have parties every every single weekend from Friday till Sunday.
It was like non-stop drinking atmy house in my like early 20s
twenty 122. And my buddy Josh is he's like,
I mean, very well versed with guns.
And so he another one of our friends there basically pulled

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out his gun. And then gave it to Josh to look
at. And so my buddy's like looking
at it and he's like, did you just hand me a fucking loaded
weapon? And he's like, Oh yeah, but
there's not anything in the chamber.
And he's like, no, there is one in the fucking chamber, you
moron. And he's like, this is a fucking
party and you didn't know that Iknow what I'm doing with fucking
guns. And you just handed me a loaded

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weapon with one in the chamber that like anybody could have
done anything with. You're a fucking moron.
Put this away and like never bring this back.
And luckily, like I didn't have to say that to the guy, but I'm
just like, why would you bring afucking loaded gun to a party
and then just hand it off to some random?
Like, I mean, obviously we all know each other, but still like
you don't know what that person knows about guns and you just

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gave them something that on accident, if they grabbed it
wrong, they could have just fucking shot somebody.
Why the fuck would you do that? And so like, that was the type
of idiots that would go to my parties.
Like is like, why? Why bring a loaded gun to a A?
That's all I like. Drinking.
That's all I like having becauseso my wife was working at this

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place, my stepdad's sister was working there and my wife got
her a job. Well, she got with this guy who
was abusive and they had said because we were trying to get
her to like break up with them. She eventually did.
So he comes to my wife's job andkicks her car because he's like
she talked her into breaking up with her.
Kicks your wife's. Car, yeah, kicks my wife's car.

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So I'm like, I'm gonna beat the fucking dog shit out of this
guy. And he was like the funniest
thing too is when he talks to the police, he's like he he gets
a restraining order out on me and I'm like, how's that
possible? You could just do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.
So now now I got I'm the only one he did it on because.
Which is crazy, though I could. Beat his ass.
Now it's a felony and I go to fucking prison and I'm just

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like, I mean, I cool. It's cool.
If you've heard like stories of a guy that beat up.
I wasn't like that at first. Like when he was telling me that
I was like, you know, I was being level headed.
You need to get away from this guy.
The the stuff she would say likehe would, he would like scratch
her and stuff like that. He wasn't like fucking unloaded
on it, just doing weird fucking emo kid shit.
And he was a weirdo. And I'm just more along like you

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got to get away from him. And when he kicks her car, now
he knows, like now I'm just like, I'm just going to beat his
ass. Like cuz it was very calm when I
explained to Amy. I was just like, I'm just gonna
go down there. I'm gonna talk to him, probably
beat him up a little bit. And she was like, that's the
scariest form of Michael. And I was like.
Just beat him up a little bit. I'm just gonna beat him up a
little bit, but he goes and talks to the cops and fucking.

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That's crazy that they gave him a restraining order because
honestly, every woman that I've seen that is like, hey, I need
protection from this guy becausehe's crazy.
And they're like, well, he didn't really threaten you.
Like it's, it's not really a threat.
He he said you, you're going to be like 6 feet under the ground,
but that doesn't mean he's he's going to kill you like.
Somebody destroying like or threatening your wife and then

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and then the cops are like, yeah, if you go after this guy,
it's a felony and we'll fucking,we'll put you under the prison.
I'm just like for a guy that feels happy telling me this shit
like he fucking. For a guy that's technically
abusing another woman because like he he's kicking my wife's
car which is a woman and like he's threatening her but me
doing anything to him is a problem.
Like why didn't you protect her?Like can she press charges

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against this? So the court case is really easy
though, because he kept calling up to the and they just recorded
everything. So because Amy took him to court
and then he his parents had to pay for everything, which is
funny cuz you just get it immediately and then he has to
pay the just so that he couldn'tbe like not ever pay for it.
So they fixed the car door and everything like that.

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Where was I going on the shit stain?
Or was it just about the? Yeah, we were talking about like
all the idiots or the one idiot that came to my party that.
With a load of gun at one point,like he was like real.
Like if this kid was like, you know, I'm gonna shoot up at
school. He probably, like, he'd probably
do something like that. So I'll go down.

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No, no. Because he kicks the door and I
know he lives with his dad and Idon't know what I'm going into.
So I go down to my brother's house to get a gun and you know,
Robbie's there and I'm just like, hey, I just walked through
the door and I'm I'm like, hey, you know, this guy kicked Amy's
corridor and I need a gun. And bro, just like starts like
pulling out which one you need. He pulls out like an assault
rifle. He's like, do you feel like
you're going to be full comfortable?

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So let me just he takes out the magazine.
He's like fucking. He's like, so when you put it
back in here, you're going to fucking and this is how you like
dechamber it. And honestly, if something
happens, I would prefer you say you stole it from me.
OK. Like if you really got.
But he's Robbie was just down. He's just your brother.
Yeah, yeah. Middle brother.
Like it's me. Like he's just like, yeah, if
you got a you know, you got to do what you ever got.
He's like a shotgun. It's real simple to work.
And he's like bringing it in there and he's like showing me

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everything how to do it. And you know, eventually, like
through the time, I'm just like.Maybe I don't need a gun.
Yeah, maybe I'm just going to bean adult and be there for my
kids. The just be with my kids now.
God, I was so trashy when me andAmy got together.
Like I said, when she got pregnant, she didn't know she
was getting pregnant by a drug addict.
But I take her to this party onenight and this guy comes down.

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I took him. I'd taken my cousin to a party
and they were sitting there and my cousin's just like a a good
kid doesn't do anything bad. He's just like there to say hey
to everybody, maybe drink a couple beers, which he's going
to drink it and be like good. I'm like, you don't have to
pretend to do that. Also, they have liquor.
You can just do the shot be like, and then you don't have to
pretend like beer. But there's these two guys and

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they're just like trying to like, I know them.
And he, one of them is really just trying to convince my
cousin who does nothing that let's go inject heroin into our
feet. So, you know, he's he comes up
to me. I'm in a different room talking
to a girl and he's like, hey, man, I just want to, yeah, I
just want to go. I'm like, why do you want to go?
And he's like, I just want to go.

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He's like not telling me about it.
So we leave and I'm just kind oflike, and so I find out that,
you know, he was trying to convince him to inject heroin to
his feet. So then, you know, this is like
a year later and me and Amy are at a party and he shows up and
I'll walk up to Amy and I had been drinking and doing various,
I think I was doing Molly. And when you when you're in like

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the trashy kind of lifestyle where what you think you're
doing is cool, you think you're the hero.
Like you think that everything you do is just cool and it's OK.
So I walk up to Amy and I'm like, I'm going to go break that
guy's nose because of what he said.
And in my brain it was like, anyway, no, you won't.
Like you ain't going to do it. No, you won't.

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So I went up to him and I punched him in the face and like
his nose. So my friend Kevin, God rest his
soul, he was the one that we were going to do skits with.
We lost him to depression. But as soon as I do that, he
stands up with the broken nose and Kevin just like a sniper
right to the broken nose with a beer can and just puts him back

(01:26:52):
down. And then because, you know,
everybody's my friend there. There's like 30 people that's
going to jump this guy. This guy does not.
Honestly, he doesn't know that anybody's mad at him.
All he knows is that a guy he thought was his friend just
broke his nose. Another guy he thought was his
friend just beamed him in the nose with the beer can.
And now all these people are going to jump.
So he's like terrified at all that stuff.
So I get in the car because, youknow, the homeowners, they're

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like, we're going to call the cops and shit like that.
And I'm like driving down the road and I was like, I told you
I'd do it. Shit.
He's like, yeah, you fucking moron.
I'm like, wait, wait, wait. You were like, all cute.
And you was like, you was like, yeah, you challenged me just
like, you know, you. I was like, I said you better
not. I was like, you fucking
mortified me there. And I was like, Oh, well, you
know, I got to be a bad ass babe.
That's bro. It's so it's so corny when you

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look back at it, man. But I was like the stupidest
every single cop too, especiallyin Archdale because they had a
more refined like police force where high point they're dealing
with like crimes and stuff like that.
Archdale could be like, what areyou fucking, What are you doing
out at fucking 2:30 at night? Mike and I went to school too,
where the Sr. OS they're in, it's a smaller

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police force. So they definitely knew like
what Mike was doing and stuff. And it's just you look back at
the corny, trashy shit that you did and you think the whole
time. You're the coolest.
One, you're the coolest, you're the coolest guy.
And I was when I got that moniker Night, night.
I'm able to say now like it's corny and stuff like that.
But back then too, I did like a part of me wanted to live up to
that because I went through thiswhole thing of, you know, I'm in

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school when I first started, youknow, middle school and all that
stuff. I was this kid who was picked
on. And now I'm the fucking, I'm
like a legend and I'm like, thisis the, the like how this is
everything that I respect me. This is everything I fucking
wanted. And then I kept going to jail,
kept going to jail, kept going to jail.
The bomb threat thing happened. I'd like to say like then that's

(01:28:37):
when it was over. But it wasn't like I did nothing
for the the bomb threat thing. Then I had like some trespassing
charges from where I tried to fight somebody on school
property. I am already kicked out of
school and this guy's talking shit.
And I was like, but I will roll up to school and still beat you
up. I had just been expelled like a
week prior and I'll roll up to school to be.

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And the saddest part is I told you all about that one really
good teacher. He works there, does the little
intervention stuff and just the this sheer disappointment on his
face too. That's like the first encounter
I had. You know how apparent like
someone will be like you had a good dad.
He never whooped me. He just looked at me and was
like, I'm disappointed like that, disappoint him like that.

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I was just like, man, what am I doing?
And then finally I got with Amy and started to what's a good
word for it? Because a guy will get with a
woman, things will get serious. They'll like have a kid or
something like that and be like,they just, they just stopped
being friends with everybody. And it wasn't like I stopped
being friends. It was just like, I can't hang

(01:29:38):
out with you because you. Started to mature like you.
You really? Drugs or I can't hang out with
you because I just hung out withyou all thinking like we're
going to, you know, relive glorydays.
And then I found out glory days was doing spice and y'all acting
like fucking because now. You guys still do?
That yeah, they're, they're doing duster and shit.
Like I never did that. I'm not a moron, but they're
like doing duster and stuff. And I'm sitting there like, you
know, I have AI, have a newborn baby, and I got to go to work

(01:30:01):
tomorrow. So you guys have fun because it
looks fun. Y'all were like passing out and
stuff. I just watched old, you know,
Josh here smack his head on a coffee table going no, no, no,
no. Sounds fun.
Looks like a blast, guys. And I eventually stopped hanging
out with people, which became like a big problem with the guy
who, you know, moved to Florida.He was like, yeah, you just
like, what are you an adult now?Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got 2.

(01:30:25):
Kids. You got two kids, so you should
probably, you know, straighten up your life too.
And he was like, Nah, I'm going to move to Florida away from my
kids and join a. Gang.
Gang and he's like high-ranking in there too and it's only
eventually they find this and then we got a war against
they're like 200 strong then that's a that's a little bit

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worrying. We'll see.
That's the crazy thing though, is like, I mean, I, I've been
through all that stuff in my youth.
I did tons of partying and like,I mean, I did do duster and I've
did all kinds of random things, not nothing hard.
I didn't do pills or, you know, cocaine or anything.
Like one of the guys who did duster cuz it your friends
didn't. Like it's all around, yeah.

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Fun dumb thing to do. Well, then, but then like I'd
like, I mean, I would if I knew that the duster was clean, like
I would still probably do a little bit, but like I'm not the
type of person, like they were friends of mine that like, and I
use that term loosely, but they would literally walk around with
a can and just go to town until they just like fucking faced it
into the ground. I'm like too much.

(01:31:29):
Yeah, a little bit. Too much like and like after the
first like round of it, it's like, whoa, that was crazy.
Let me move on to just like hanging out for the rest of the
night. Like this isn't something I want
to like stay in Duster World for.
Like, I mean, it was like crazy and it was like like fucking
being in a video game, which wascool for a minute, but like,
it's not like you come back home.
Like you just come back home andyou don't go back.

(01:31:51):
Right. Again and again and again and
again and again. Like it's not that fun.
Like it's like doing, you know, being drunk.
Being drunk is fun to like find the line to like stay on the
edge of it. It's not fun to just fall off
the edge and go blackout. Like that's not, that's not the
fun part of drinking, even though that's where you go a lot
and you're like, you know, youngor late teens, early 20s, that's

(01:32:13):
where you live is like, how far can I take this before I just
fucking black out and don't remember anything for the rest
of the night. But that was the the crazy thing
is like all the chaos that you go through in that time of life
and then some people just. Stay there.
They just stay. Like I know tons of people that
like they still frequent the bar.
Like if there's a dollar beer night, they're out there and

(01:32:34):
it's like, no, that's for that'sfor 2122 year olds.
Like you don't, you don't need to go out there for discount
beer. For one thing, it's already
expensive beer. I mean, I guess if you're
getting a dollar beer now, it's probably a pretty good deal.
But like, you know, just get a 12 pack and go hang out with
your friends and maybe don't drink the whole 12 pack.
The funniest thing too, is because I told you about my
stepdad sister's boyfriend and there were so many people like

(01:32:57):
especially Amy would encounter like in her just like group of
of socializing with people that would have just like this shit
stain boyfriend and they'll be like, well, they can change
because we've seen Michael do itand she was just like Michael
was like a fucking anomaly. That's like that's Michael's the
the thing that like rarely fucking happens.

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And that just was because I liketo you know, when I word these
things, I like to tell people like when my oldest daughter
came along, I was just this fucking tip top.
I immediately just no man. I kept, you know, having
problems with heavy drugs and stuff like that and I would
fucking I would leave Amy constantly.
I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not doing this anymore.
And look, I'm going to tell y'all just like a real this is

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like a real fucking. This is the point where like I
knew I really did want to changeand that the people around me
weren't the people that I neededto hang around with because, you
know, I got my daughters on the way and Amy's like, I'm not
going to be, I'm not going to bewith like a drug addict.
And I'm like, these are my friends and you're trying to
separate me from my friends and you're trying to make it where I

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turn my back on everybody. I'm not doing that for no bitch
because Michael don't do that for no bitch and all this shit.
So I had done some is. That one of the times that she
popped you, huh? Is that one of the times she
like now all? Those have been like funny times
that I was just like seeing how far I could just like upset her
to, to get her angry. So I had just got back from my

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dad's house and he had gave me some like Kalonopins or
something like that. So I had took some of those and
I had been taking Roxy's like all day and I was taking some of
those. And I go to our friend Matt's
house and Matt has some Vicodin that he's just never going to
take. And he's like, yeah, I'm never
going to take these. Which is crazy because he does

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Duster and like and I'm like Duster's like way worse than.
Just in my. Brain like I'm just like
Duster's way worse than pain pills bro like I don't know on
what planet so I'm sitting there.
Neither are good kids. If you're listening, neither are
good. Neither are good, yes.
So I see how many is in the bottle and there's like, you
know, 10-15 in the bottle. And I'm just like, fuck it.
I'm like pour them all out. And I think about all the drugs

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that I've been doing all day. And I was like, Mike, if you do
this right, I'm like, if you do this, you're probably going to
die. And at that point, like I was
really just like, I was like, man, I'm, I don't know what the
fuck I'm doing. I feel like because I see people
now like starting to do good stuff, like just not hanging out
with Amy. I see actual adults, like doing
actual adult things. And I see just, you know, I have

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this baby on the way and I'm like, I'm not going to be a good
dad and I'm going to fuck this baby up and so.
So this is before she's born at all, right?
This is before she's born. And this is kind of what like
solidified me never hanging out with my friends again because I
at that point I'm like, we coulddie taking this.
I'm just, I'm OK with it. Like I'm like, fuck it, Either
we're going to get real fucked up and our problems are going to
go away or we're just going to fucking die either way.
So I take all of it. About an hour later, I'm fucking

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maybe 3045 minutes later, I'm throwing the fuck up.
I'm like, yeah, this is it. So like everybody's like, Mike,
you don't look good. And I was like, feel good.
I don't feel good. I'm not not good.
So I go into Matt's room and I'mlaying there and they come in
there and they're like, you think he's like, I could fucking
hear people and shit. You think he's done?
Like, I don't know, we can't. We got too much stuff here.

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Like we're just, they just went back into the other room and
started partying. And next day I wake up.
Thank God. I was like, fuck, you know that?
Nobody gave a shit enough to. I go in there, everybody's like
fucking passed out and shit likethat.
I still want a guy have to up all over my shirt and take off
the shirt. Still my friend Josh's shirt.
And then never hung out with those guys again.
All of them. I mean, we've been hanging out
for four or five years now, justevery single fucking day.

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And from that day forward, I wasjust like, this is not stop
people hang out with. And even then, still, like I, I
didn't really get on my shit until my second son was I found
out that, you know, she was because I was like, at this
point, you got one kid and she'slike, you know, we got one kid
and you know, I work my little half ass jobs when I'm working

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and Amy's always working becauseshe's a responsible adult.
I'm like, this is just OK. And then a second kids coming
and you're like, fuck, we live with her parents and we I am
doing nothing. And either these kids are going
to grow up with either a fuck shit dad or fuck shit dad is
just going to keep going back tohis old ways until he dies and

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they don't have a dad or something like that.
And then they're going to in my brain, even though I know if I
were to have died back then, that my kid, like my oldest
daughter would still have lived a good life because of the mom
she has, like the mom she has, she would have, you know, found
her way in life and shit like that.
And I was like, fuck, they're going to do that.
And it was literally at that moment where I was like, all

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right, so tomorrow I'm going to go apply.
The moment I found out that she was pregnant with the, our
second child, I went out and I looked around and I got that job
at the, the box shop and I fucking they were like, you got
any experience operating machine?
I was like, sure. I don't know how you did this.
Fuck yeah. We literally went full circle
back to. But I mean, that's the that's

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the craziness of it because a lot of guys out there, well, of
course, if you got good friends and shit like you and I don't
know if there are women out there, that's just like, no,
don't go hang out with him and just spend all your time at
home. There could be absolutely women
like that. I, I, I've dated women like
that. Like, I mean, there's, there's
good and bad to both sides of that.
But I mean, it's, I think I think the big thing that you

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kind of summed up in this story is your wife didn't care so much
about the people. It was about you.
It was about you, like you. Go play card games And I'm like,
she don't give me, she don't give me no shit about playing
card game. But I go, I say I want to go
hang out with Josh or Matt or Kevin or any of these guys.
Well, and it's not even them. It's what you do when you're
like. It's who you become.
She's. Around most people, she said.
You change around that. Yeah, she's like, as soon as you

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get around any of those people, and not my middle brother, my
oldest brother too, that I wouldchange around them.
And what's so sad too, is I see my oldest brother, he's still
fighting against all this shit that, you know, the fucking
thing that I went through, you got a bunch of kids and he and I
was the one who introduced him to that life.
And it sounds weird, him being my older brother.
But when I came down, they were already kicked out.

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When I got kicked out at like 16, I was already partying and
shit like that. They were working, you know, he
had a girlfriend. He was taking care of, you know,
their kid and I come down and I'm just like, you could just
you, I don't know if you guys know this, but you can just
party a lot and just make friends with like people.
And I would go out in the neighborhood and like make
friends with people and shit. And then, you know, Robbie finds

(01:39:32):
out that I'm doing coke. And the day he found that out,
he runs into the house and he's like yelling.
Robbie's always wanted the best for me.
He's not really been big into drugs, but he's like yelling at
Justin. He's like, you know, he's out
there doing. He's like Mike.
He's a grown ass man. I'm like 1617, but I'm a grown
ass man. He's like, he's a grown ass man.
He can do what he wants, you know, and then he'd start
hanging out with me and he's like, oh, this party and stuff.

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I like it. What are you doing here?
And I'm like, I'm doing pain pills and he's like, I don't
know about doing this. I'm like, dude, don't be a
pussy. And he does them And then, you
know, I see him still. And that's what fucking that's
what gets me about Amanda. Shit eats me up inside and makes
me thank God every day that I fucking that Amy just walked
into my life. Yeah.
I mean, that is the biggest differentiator of where you

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could have ended up and where you did end up because I mean,
had you, like, even if Amy walked into your life, if you
guys didn't, you know, have a whoopsie?
Like that's it. Yeah, yeah.
If we did, if she did not get pregnant and.
You probably, you guys wouldn't be together, right, You'd be.
Probably done. That's the craziest thing,
though, is like because guys will just a lot of guys, I

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understand they get, you know, spurned by relationships,
scorned by relationships and stuff like that, but there are
legit just good women out there who want the best where you
don't really care about the fucking drama and shit like
that. Like I can never like I can go
play cards What? And but if I go hang out with my
friends, it's such a big problem.
And she's like, one day I think I'm going to be able to talk to

(01:41:01):
you and like, you're going to beable to understand what I'm
saying. You'll get that.
Like I don't actually give a shit that you're awake.
Like, yes, be here, be with the family, spend time.
You can go be you too. Just don't go be you where
you're doing fucking drugs and being a shit human and like you
wouldn't be proud of yourself inthe morning.
So like, don't do that shit. That's pretty much all I'm
asking is don't be that Mike. Be normal Mike that likes, you

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know, nerdy card games and likesto play video games and like
hang out and tell jokes with hisfriends and then come back home
to our kids and not end up in jail.
And you know that that type of Mike?
The the shit that she had to endure to because I don't know
if she saw like there in no way shape or form can you guess
where someone's going to go, especially if they start off at

(01:41:44):
the point like me. I'm just like a rebound.
She just got out of a nine year relationship.
I'm just like a rebound guy. So she, you know, get back on
her feet and start living life. You know what I'm saying?
Like fucking Uptown girl shit, whoopsie.
You got pregnant with that guy. And then just the her friends,
like her friends, you know, families and stuff like that.

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And everybody's just like, are you OK?
Like being with? And she's just like, you know,
defending me. And she's like, I don't fucking
know. There's when I talk to him,
there's something like, it's just not just like there's
something there that there's someone that I feel like is
behind this curtain of just dumbshit.
And then eventually fuck, she had to go through so much stuff

(01:42:28):
to get me to that point. I'm talking about the I never
really did Xanaxes and stuff. And one night I get Xanaxes and
I take a bunch of them and this is the this, this is a pregnant
woman that knows that she is going to have to have a child
with me. So the Xanaxes, I end up getting
angry and not like she's like laying down or something.
And I go in there and I'm like, I'm like, yeah, cuz you don't

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ever fucking cook. She's the only one that cooks
like, I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm like, you never, you never cook around here.
So that's all I remember. And I wake up in a Burger King
parking lot with like 2 double Whopper.
I'm skinny at this point too. I'm like, God, I put, I put 2
double Whoppers away, 2 double Whopper, like wrappers in my
chest. And I just like drive home to a
woman who's probably like, wherethe fucks he been all night?

(01:43:09):
What, what the fuck is he doing?Like, and then, you know, I'm
there and I'm just like, I see how drugs can be bad.
That is something too, though. It's like, I wouldn't like
instances like that. I would be like, I can see how
drugs are probably not good. See, I had that problem with
alcohol because like when I turned 21, the girl that I was
dating at the time, I knew enough, I was like, I need to

(01:43:30):
get Gatorade on the way home, like or on the way there.
Like I need Gatorade because I'mgoing to be dehydrated, blah,
blah. I know the science, like I'm
going to be fine if I have Gatorade, right?
And so I turned 21 on and technically it was like Sunday
at midnight. So Saturday night when it struck
midnight and it was now Sunday morning, that was when my 21st
birthday was. And I could have spent that out
in Vegas with my parents and my brother and his wife.

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I could have done that. But no, I was in love.
And so I was going to do it here.
And so I stayed and I got drunk.I went out with my boss from the
architecture firm because he wasthe only one that was like of
age. He was in his like, late 40s,
early 50s. And so I get out there and I
just start, I, I tell my girl that like I need Gatorade.

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That's what I start the night off with.
And then we get there finally it's midnight and I'm just like,
it's my birthday. And so everybody, the drink of
the time was Jager bombs. And so it's just Jager Bom,
Jager Bom, Jager Bom, Jager bom for like 2 hours just fucking as
many Jager bombs as I could drink.
And then I black out, don't remember shit, wake up in the
morning. Average Jager story.

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Wake up in the morning and my girl was pissed, like just
fucking live it with me. And I was like what, what what
happened? Like I mean I don't really like
I was fine, wasn't I? And she's like, well, when we
got home you were throwing up and you're like, oh God, I'm
bleeding because I'm just throwing up red shit into the
toilet and I'm like, oh, I'm dying, I'm bleeding.
And because all of it Jagerboms is just red, red, red, red.

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So I think that. And then finally she gets me
like into bed and I decided to say, you didn't even remember my
Gatorade, did you bitch? And I was like, I, I said that
she's like, you don't remember saying that.
I was like, not at all. And I was like, because that's
not me at all. Like it's not me.
And then I was like, oh, exactlythe point, like maybe maybe I

(01:45:19):
don't need to get that shit faced.
Maybe that that's too far gone. Like the the fact that I would
say that to the woman that I stayed here because I loved her
and didn't go out to Vegas and have this big crazy, you know,
turn 21 time with my family. I stayed here because I love
her. And I decided to make the night.
The end cap of the night is to call her a bitch and tell her
that she didn't do the thing that she actually did for me

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because she's thoughtful and that was me.
And so I was like. What's so funny too?
It's just like, you forget my Gatorade, bitch.
You just, you don't fucking. That's one reason I just, I have
never liked alcohol because I'veseen people turn into people
they're not. You get, so that's.
The only one I've really seen people turn into somebody.

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Really really lovey dovey and like and then there's people who
cry a lot and then there's people that are just fucking
angry and like depending on whatI drink, I can be any one of
those 3. That is wild, Amy.
Yeah, when she drinks tequila, because, you know, we always
keep tequila in the house, but she drinks like every other
weekend or something like that. And I'm either like, she's

(01:46:22):
either going to get really superhorny or I'm going to get
punched in the face before she gets horny, because Mikey's done
a lot of dumb stuff, you know, back in the And I fuck with her
too, like the again, punched in the face.
I used to like I would like holdher down and like tickle her
neck and stuff like that. And I just like mush her and
stuff And just she would grab a broom and she would put welts on
my legs, on my arms. The whole time I'm laughing at

(01:46:43):
her. I'm like, you were doing no
damage to me. She would get so and look, I
helped her grow because I would get one time she stabbed me with
a knife. So one of those little because
at first she was just like doingand I fucking stuck my arm out
there and she got it. She was like, and I was like,
yeah, fucking and just playing around and stuff last night.
What's so funny about last nighttoo is because you were talking

(01:47:05):
about drinking. I drank last night.
I took two shots of tequila and was like, do two shots tequila
with me. And you know, her mom, they're
staying with us right now while does.
She know you're an addict though?
Who? I know you're not an addict for
alcohol, but like. That's what, because that's what
her mom goes. She was like, is it OK if Mike
has? She's like, yeah, he's not a
fucking crackhead. He's not just going to be like,

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I'm going to ruin my whole fucking life over 2 drinks of
alcohol. That's not like that's what
sucks too is because I was able to be the type of guy that was
just like, you know, I'm going to take two weeks off so I can
reset my because we're taking too much.
We're just being wasteful and everybody be like 2 weeks off,
like, you know, I'm going to like withdraw on Twitter.
I'm like, if you think you're going to withdraw, quitting is
only as bad as you think it is. So I'd like take like 2 weeks

(01:47:47):
off a month off so I could like reset my fucking.
And I was like, you know, I'm being smart about it.
I'm not one thing is I would notspend money.
I would try to find like different avenues, barter, not
with like Dick sucking, but justlike, you know, from Tartar
shit. Yeah, from time to time.
But you know, like my grandma, she had the tramadol.
She's I'm not taking these. I'm like, oh fuck, man free.

(01:48:08):
I'll take them. And that's what really set that
fucking train off. I wish that's the one I wish I'd
have never picked up because that was the hardest one to just
be like I'm not and also the scariest one after I did it.
And then you read studies on it now and it's just like, Oh yeah,
you know, 100 times more likely you're probably going to have
Alzheimer's and dementia at a young age.
I'm just like fuck God why did Iquit doing coke man?

(01:48:32):
Jeez, that was 1. How did you do coke without
paying for it? That wing man, so he was a big
time dealer and the people he knew were big time dealers too.
So you know, they're like cutting it up and shit and then
you got extra. And it's always being around
people who are just always doingit too.
If I'm sitting there, I think I bought coke maybe three times in

(01:48:52):
my life and I've done a good, a good amount of it and it was
just because I would just be like, all right, and I'm not.
Also, here's the best thing too,is there used to be like if
you're hanging out with cokeheads, the it's just being
smart, OK? There's this guy, he was really
cool in high school and we're hanging out with this one guy.

(01:49:16):
Just a drug deal. I'm not going to name anybody's
name. All these guys.
A lot of these guys are living like really good lives.
Thankful they are. Not a lot of these guys are
really like living clean sober lives now, which is really good.
And he's one of the guys too. That's why I'm not going to say
his name, but he makes this one guy who was like really cool in
high school. He has went down this addiction
road and obviously it's it's nottreating good.

(01:49:36):
And he's like sitting there begging and stuff like that.
So he puts like some on a shoe and makes the guy like snorted
off his shoe, like really degrading shit.
And I'm like, that is the fucking, that's the saddest shit
that I have ever seen. And I'm like, be smart about it.
OK, Say you're hanging out somewhere saying I'm hanging out
with these guys. The number one thing when people
are doing something like if you're sitting there begging for

(01:50:00):
something, you look a it's like,no, this is my stuff.
I want to do it. OK, Say I go and hang out with
some cokeheads or whatever. If I am like, Oh no, I don't do
that stuff anymore. Well, now you're sitting there
and you're like, you're doing itand you're like, fuck, you know,
you're getting feeling, you feel, you feel great.
You're fucking getting that energy and you're just like,
fuck, it sucks. You don't do this shit anymore.

(01:50:21):
It's like, yeah, well, you know,stop because.
And then they were like, well, Idon't want to fucking do it
alone, you know what I'm saying?And I don't want to just sit
here by myself and fucking don'twant you.
I want you to do it with me. I mean, just want one time and
yeah, we can just fucking clean out this a ball together.
Fucking that's how you do it. And every single time that's if
I was hanging out with somebody,it's just either like I don't do

(01:50:43):
it or it's just like, oh fuck, you know, Mike's over and shit
like that. Like there's so many ways to do
shit, especially with coke because it is more expensive,
but also you're buying it in Baggies.
It's not like having a finite amount of pills or something
like that. Really The once I once they
really cracked down on pills andit was like really harder to

(01:51:04):
get. That's when I just stopped doing
them because I'm not expensive and I'm not going to pay a
dollar per milligram. I'm not going to buy a Roxy 30
for $30 like and once something is just kind of like that.
Just seems wild. Unattainable.
I was just like, that's not my drug of choice anymore.
Well, see, that's how I was withweed because I, I had easy
access to weed as a young guy and like, I really didn't buy

(01:51:24):
weed. I, I think in my life I've
probably bought it maybe 5 to 10times.
And most of those times actuallyare recently right is buying it
legally through the system. But I mean, for the most part,
it was, you know, either grow it, have friends, like there was
no, no heaven to like go purchase it.
And that was the wild thing thatwas as a young guy, people would

(01:51:47):
spend, you know, 100, $200 buying weed.
And I'm like, why? Why you spending so much?
And then they'd like blow through it so fucking quick too.
I was like, well, if you're going to spend that kind of
money on it, like at least like savor it.
But no, it would just be like, my one buddy would buy like
really, really good weed and then he'd roll it up in blunts
and then not like smoke it with a group of people.
He would just face that thing himself.

(01:52:09):
And I was like, you know, you dothat with Reggie, too, right?
And there's like. A limit too, like.
You can't get higher like once you get like a certain amount of
high, like you're just as high as you can like yes, if you go
into like, you know, the more concentrated versions, like
getting, you know, wax and glassand all that stuff, yeah, you
can get higher. But even still, like when you've
got like just bud in a in a blunt, like a couple puffs and

(01:52:32):
you're as high as you're going to be for the whole.
Fucking enjoyed people going thewax route too, because when
you're hanging out, especially with, I don't know what it is
about each individual pie head, but if you smoke weed with them,
you'll have a different experience.
Like this is this is different. This will be different.
I'm like, no bro, it's all the same.
I don't like smoking weed. I just, yeah, it's something
I've never enjoyed doing. I've always enjoyed doing stuff

(01:52:53):
to where if I have to be like alert or something, I could be
like in game, yeah, I can be in the moment.
You can't like just snap out of being super fucking high, Snap
out of being super fucking drunk.
You can't do it, you know, I like to be alert.
But once they had shifted towards wax and wax, you know,
burning faster and, and it's more expensive and stuff, people

(01:53:14):
were just kind of like sharing, yeah, not sharing as much.
And I'm just like, finally I canjust exist.
And then also too, if someone's smoking wax and they're like,
you want to try this and you're like, no, then they're more
understandable too because it's like, I'm doing all this
different kind of stuff. And my friend was.
And you're going to be fucked. Butane and shit like he was
extracting his own, making his own and he would buy large

(01:53:35):
amounts of weed and get a littlebit of wax and then he was like,
he would always do that. And I was like, why don't you
just smoke the weed? Save money because he also never
had money. And then finally the reason he
quit is because he found out like extracting it would Butane
can cause little holes in your brain.
So he's like I. Mean either which way it's like,
yeah, like that's that's my biggest thing with all drugs is

(01:53:56):
if it's somewhat natural like weed.
Ah, it's a plant. I got it.
I dried the bud, so I smoked. It together, I mean, well, you
have to listen. The leaves are natural.
You just got to extract it with a little bit of gasoline.
If you were, if you were to havethe Coke leaves or whatever they
are like the Coke leaves or I don't know what they're called,
but if you were to have the leaves, I would probably chew
that like dip doesn't. Even work though.
Yeah, it's just very mild. And like that's The thing is

(01:54:18):
like smoking weed, not that bad,but like then you do like twice
and it doesn't really do anything.
I would. One day we're going to do coke
together. When we're rich and famous and.
Yeah, I'm going to be a dork about it too, because look,
fentanyl is also a big ruiner ofthings too.
Because of being able to be smarter and like to think about
like what I'm doing instead of like, letting just straight

(01:54:40):
addiction control me and fuckingbe like, I have to get it.
I'm able to be like, well, like who are you getting that from?
Do they have a prescription likemy brother would always be like,
hey, I found these for these really good price.
I'm like, do you see the prescription bottle?
Is it real? Does it look real?
Like what did the? What do they look like?
And. Yeah, because you can make
pills, can't you? Oh yeah.

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Oh, that's a, that's a big thing.
That's, look, I don't want to put them under too much shit,
but that's what he's doing rightnow.
And they're not real. And I'm like, they can't control
what they put into those. And honestly like it.
I understand going through that shit.
We're both young and I did introduce him to it, but only he

(01:55:22):
can find the strength within himself to stop.
That's it. Unless somebody wants to do it.
Unless, and that's how fucking, that's how sad it is.
Unless somebody's like, hey, I do have a problem.
I and it doesn't matter. Like you can think in your mind,
I'm responsible with it. I'm doing it very
recreationally. You're still playing with fire
because like some things like the Tramadol and shit like that,

(01:55:44):
Adderall, it was really hard to like regulate, like to actually,
you know, get down to where it'sjust like, hey, let's not do too
much. And then you're just like, well,
I don't function normally without it.
And then some of the resolve that you had.
That's the one big thing is whenlike I am saying, hey, we're not
going to do it this day. But then my brain's like, well,
This is why we can do it this way.

(01:56:04):
Then I'm like, ho, ho. That's what that's why I just
try to tell my kids so much. Never pick up smoking because.
Oh, it explains. Pain pills, coke, all this, all
this stuff has never like, and I'm talking about two weeks
after I'm not doing anymore. Just being like, you know what,
we can smoke a cigarette right now.
My brain's just like we can do it.

(01:56:25):
Years and years later. And nicotine does nothing, like
I'm not getting high. At least if I were to do some
pain pills I'd feel good. At least if I fucking this
poker, I'd have a little bit of energy and I feel a little bit
immensible. Oh I'm like 6 weeks away from
nicotine. I have not touched it at all.
But like, I don't think. I don't think I'm ADHD knows.
ADHD knows. But yeah, I'm six weeks away

(01:56:48):
from it and literally every timeyou light a cigarette, I'm like,
I could just ask like for one. Like it's just one.
It's just it's just one that's and then it's.
So it's so crazy, man, because. And it'd been years when I when
you first came around, Like it'dbeen years since.
I think I even because my buddy Josh was the last person to
smoke and he'd quit smoking for a while.

(01:57:09):
Like the one of the last times we hung out, I was like, hey,
can I get a cigarette? He's like, no, I quit like 3
months ago. I was like proud of him.
I'm like, yeah, good for you. But like in this moment, like I
thought, oh, a cigarette could be in my vicinity and I can
smoke it and then like I don't have to buy 1.
So then I'm not going to like fall off the wagon.
I'll be fine. I'll just smoke one or two with
him and then we'll be good. And then you showed up and like

(01:57:31):
from that moment you just kept showing up like because we
started working together at thatpoint.
And then like I, I started buying cigarettes again.
Like it was that quick of years without it, like I mean one or
two here and there, but like years without me buying
cigarettes or vaping or anything.
And then you came around and within a week I was buying
cigarettes again, because. Crazy as shit dude.

(01:57:52):
And like now I'm six weeks away from it and I'm still like, at
any point in time I could just be like.
Because no other no other drug has had that effect on me.
Like once I quit and IA week away from it, I'm just like, you
know, sometimes I'm going to tell you like the only one that
I'll get like A and another one too.
I've never done before and I don't know why, but I'll just

(01:58:14):
like, you know how? What is it with food?
What do you call it when you crave something?
Like sometimes I'll get a craving for coke.
I don't know why, because it's just a.
It's the. That's why when you say you done
it twice, I was like, I don't know if you really did it then.
I. Don't know if you really did it
then I. Think there's different, like I
think there's drugs that hit people differently.
Like, I mean, there's a reason why people become Alcoholics,

(01:58:36):
stoners, fucking cokeheads, crackheads.
Like that cuz I tell people, I'll tell people I'll be like,
yeah, when I do pain pills I geta really good euphoria and I
have a bunch of energy and they're like, that's not what I
see. When people do pain pills, I'm
like, yeah, you'll see. People do well I think if you do
the right amount of pain pills you should just get the euphoria

(01:58:57):
once you start like slurring your words and.
Shit. Went too far, you've you've done
too far. And then some of them like the
really like the more powerful ones like Opana and shit like
that. When that shit started really
hitting the streets and people were doing that and like you
would throw up after snorting out.
I'm just like, you're already too far into it.
Like it's not what you should do.
But like, I'll tell people like,I'm doing this to literally get

(01:59:19):
the euphoria to be like up and more active.
And they're like on pain pills. And I'm like, yeah.
And they're like, well, fuck, when I do it, I shut down.
I'm just like, I think you're just doing too much.
Well, yeah, and I think that's the crazy thing is that it's
it's so person to person dependent about what?
Like I've done pain pills for prescription reasons and for
like when I was working at the factory, I was working with them

(01:59:40):
on like 1 main pill head and youknow, like I was like, ah, my
back hurts or like something. And I was like, do you have
something as in like ibuprofen or like something like mild?
And he's like, well, here's thisand would just give me some of
whatever the fuck you had. I don't even remember what they
were. And you know, for me.
All it did was like it kind of numb.

(02:00:02):
It made everything like feel OK.But then afterwards like shit
that didn't hurt started hurting.
I was like, oh, I didn't notice this fucking kink in my neck and
this like, you know, little lower back pain, like all the
stuff that I just kind of numbedout.
Like it doesn't affect me enoughthat all the sudden once the
full effects of the painkiller wore off, like things started

(02:00:22):
hurting right, That weren't hurting before.
And I was like, I don't really want to, like, I don't want to
like continuously try and block out all the rest of the little
things that I was avoiding because then now I'm just going
to want to take them all the time to make myself like feel
almost nothing like feel feel good because I don't feel any
pain. And so that's what kept me away
from those. But like there's like with coke,

(02:00:44):
I, I guess I can't really tell because I've always done it when
I was drinking, smoking weed andthen there was coke.
So it wasn't like I, I really feel like when I tell people
about psychedelics and everything, it's totally
different If you do psychedelicsby themselves or if you're drunk

(02:01:05):
and then go into psychedelics orif you're stoned and then go
into psychedelics or you know, like mixing all this stuff
together, it's different. Than when when I would do it,
like if I would do it and I'd bedrinking, I just wouldn't know I
was drunk. I like man pills, no coke.
I'd be like I'm fucking I'm putting down these beers.
Yeah, I've done done some shots,man, and I'm just like I'm it
must be this Irish in me. And then you know that's.

(02:01:26):
What psychedelics does for me, we.
Run out of coke for the night and then I just like fucks,
fucks happening, I'm drunk. Somethings happening.
I think I'm having a stroke or something.
Some fucking just like get more and more drunk.
I'm outside. Yeah, we, we ate some mushrooms
on Easter weekend. Like it was actually Easter
Sunday down at Myrtle Beach and we woke up in enough time that

(02:01:49):
the sun hadn't rose so we could eat the mushrooms.
The mushrooms would kick in as the sun rose over top of the
beach and like we would just have like the coolest fucking
Easter Sunday ever. And we did that.
And then as soon as the sun roseand we, like, had our little
time down there, we went back tothe camp and we started playing
beer pong and just started getting, like, shit faced drunk.
But when you're tripping, you don't get drunk.

(02:02:10):
And so then like, about lunchtime was rolling around and
the buzz from the mushrooms werewearing off.
And we just went into like, yeah, like, you know, alcohol
poisoning. What's the one with Johnny Depp?
The it's bad country, like fucking I can't remember the
name of it right now. Where they're on the fucking.
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Yeah.

(02:02:31):
And that's basically you. Immediately said it and I'm
like, they're in a desert. And I'm just, and then think of
it, that's what it felt like wasit's just like boom, like just
all of a sudden, like the psychedelics turned off and then
all of a sudden now you're just like shit faced and everything's
like so fucked. The one thing I am like super
proud about though, is because Ithink about cigarettes and then

(02:02:51):
I hear about the like the, you know, heroin, crack and meth
being like, and I'm like, fuck, I could not live.
I could not live my life just but I don't want to dissuade
anybody that's not but you know,that's clean and sober from the
big three from doing it. But fuck, that just sounds
rough. And to live every single day
just like cigarettes, because that's the one thing we have to
be like. Maybe they are as bad, maybe

(02:03:13):
they aren't. But you always hear that is as
addictive as. What was that?
I think Nick Swartzen did a jokeon that.
He's like, my buddy told me thatQuentin Quentin smokers smoking
cigarettes is harder than quitting heroin.
So I picked up heroin and he's afucking liar.
Yeah, I was like, that's, that's, that's pretty good.
The, I don't know. Heroin never piqued my interest

(02:03:35):
though, because you'd see peoplewho doing heroin and you're just
like, you look like death and you look like you die.
And then I have never one real sad one.
We fucking math behind some drugs.
OK, So we go into this apartmentcomplex and this lady's in there
and there's just this little kidrunning around while mom has a

(02:03:55):
fucking rubber band on just fucking just, well, I'm like,
that's a dead person right there.
He's like, Oh no, she's just doing heroin.
And I was like, I don't that does not feel like something.
Especially when you got a littleone like, like that's, that's
one of the things that I think, you know, I'm proud of you for
what you've been through and where you're at and all that.

(02:04:16):
But like when that kid comes, like if it doesn't change you, I
don't know what's going on in your brain because like that
instant that you see that kid, it's like, well, this is a
fucking different life now. Like this is what?
Makes you feel better. I think that lady's dead,
though. That she ever knows.
It's terrible. It is, yeah, but you think about
it. For the kid.

(02:04:37):
Will you think about it, think about cigarettes and what you're
going through now and just thinkof that with heroin or if
cracking meth? I don't really put on the set
because I've never heard of anybody overdosing off of crack
meth. The only time I've heard people
of overdosing off of meth is when they put fentanyl in it.
So. Yeah, if they go too far.

(02:04:57):
That's what's crazy too though is also back then fentanyl
wasn't as prevalent. So it wasn't prevalent.
At all so when we you know you had people doing heroin they
weren't really overdose and that's why I.
Wasn't there something that camebefore fentanyl that they were
like, I don't know, maybe I am misremembering, but I just
warned there was something that was being mixed into drugs that
was. No, that's when they called it

(02:05:19):
Diablo and that was fentanyl that they were OK, but they had
a name for it. So because it's crazy, I was
like out there in the time wherethey're like restricting all the
pain pills during the time that they're restricting the pain
pills, that's when you start hearing about fentanyl.
And I was just like, man, that'sway too coincidental for it not
to be a conspiracy. And nobody just like picked up
on that day. I was like, hey, we can now
that, you know, we've got all these people addicted to pain

(02:05:41):
pills, it's take all this away and then we'll flood the market
with this, you know, heroin infused fentanyl.
Fucking get rid of this drug problem.
I guess that's how I viewed it. I'm just taking the drug.
Because, you know, you get all these addicts and then it's your
own little form of population. Control.
It's crazy because like, you know, you're, yes you are.
And it was loose. It was.
It was at the same time. But you are taking people out.

(02:06:03):
But for the for the most part, you're just creating like these
people that are living out here on the streets and then these
camps and like, yes, some of them are dying, but a lot of
them are just like so far down the but now the.
Government's making money off ofit with some boxing and shit
like that too is it's just all afucked a fucked cycle.
It is of, I don't know, education and just this so funny

(02:06:25):
too, because you know, when you hang out with the people who are
dealing coke, I mean they're also they have you know,
couldn't crack and shit like that and 'cause you can make
infinitely more doing that. The people I was hanging out
with were pretty, pretty contentcutting shit up more or if they
had like a not as cut, fucking not as cut, you know, Kilo, they

(02:06:47):
would fucking put other shit in it, cut it up more.
And that's how they would fucking stretch out their money.
But you know, you would encounter people that would cook
crack. You would encounter crackheads
and shit like that. And then you would see that too.
And it's so funny because peoplewill be like what education
doesn't do. No, I would learn from cokeheads
about crackheads, people that were selling cocaine to
crackheads and they were like, you know, it's fucking, you
know, that guy's going to be high for maybe 35 minutes and

(02:07:10):
then have to and I'm just like, hey, just the, there's a point
where drugs like you get a look of desperation.
And that's where I've always judged the the scariness of
drugs like Adderall. I've never seen anybody like
fuck, I got to fucking, I got tofucking do it.
Once you start get to like the pain pill level, Fuck I got to

(02:07:32):
fucking do it like. Because yeah, you have the
withdrawals from it like that are can be painful and like
legit not let you. But the craziest thing and like
this, this is something that I think you've harped on before is
like pretty much one of the onlyones or like one of the top ones
that you can die from withdrawals is alcohol.

(02:07:54):
Yep. And you can and Xanaxes.
But like alcohol, anybody can gobuy it.
Anybody can become addicted to it and like, it's like nothing.
Every, every single ad you see is just.
And it's not only that too. It's just, you know, every
single week, every single, you know, month, teenagers just
consuming too much, dying in a fucking field.
And now instead of saying alcohol poison, they're listed

(02:08:15):
under like natural causes and shit kid at the fucking party
drinks too much and just fuckingyou know, that's, that's crazy
because once, once like if someone has like a heart attack
or some shit like that or say their kidney shut down from
alcohol poison and you just be like, yeah, natural cause kidney
shut down. Fuck it.
I'm not. Going to say that's as much of A

(02:08:36):
conspiracy because here's the thing too, because I'll talk
about this desperation. I have encountered a lot of
people who like to drink alcohol.
I very have very rarely account like people recreational drugs.
I like to tell people, you know,I was able to do it
recreationally. I would get to points where it
wasn't recreational. It was like you have to do it

(02:08:56):
because you've done it now. But looking at a lot of people,
99.9999% could not do it recreationally.
They were, they did it and they do it and that's their
personality. And all they're thinking about
is getting more if they don't have it.
And if they do have it, how they're going to get more after
they use it. With alcohol, there's so many

(02:09:20):
levels. I think alcohol is one of them
where like you have to, you haveto use that as a like a real
crutch for something emotional going on.
And it has to be something that you drink every day to get away
from something. I mean, I've seen people who
drink a couple beers every day that don't fucking get to the
level of alcoholism. I mean, sure does.
Is that person going to have problems with their liver when

(02:09:42):
they get older? Yeah, it's.
Still a like none of them come without their health concerns.
I mean even like fucking exercising like a maniac.
You you have health problems from that and like it can be.
Now people are doing fucking like train a ball and shit with
it. But like, I mean, even without
it, like you get a runner's highand like you become addicted to
that. Like and and so it.
Yes, they're definitely better. That's the craziest one.

(02:10:03):
Like a skeleton guy who's just like man and running.
I'm just. Like 35 miles today I've.
Done 30. It took me to 35 miles again.
I'm like, brother, you ever heard of a Tyler's break?
Like just don't run. Don't run for a couple weeks and
I don't know, see if you get it earlier.
But like, you know, that's a definitely a healthier
addiction. But that's, that's the crazy
thing with alcohol though, is there's, there's tons of people

(02:10:24):
that are just not they're addicted.
They're addicted kind of like a cigarette smoker or like a
almost like a social smoker, right where you know, they drink
a couple beers, they go home. Then there's the people that
drink a fucking 30 rack in a day, and then there's the people
that drink a fucking 5th of vodka.
That are shaking when they wake up.

(02:10:45):
And and then there's the people that like can't survive at all
without a drink and you know. When I hear, usually when I hear
about like those stories or I'veseen those people, it was never
of something of yeah, you know, I was hanging out with my
friends and I just kept drinkingand I had to drink more.
It was awesome. I'm like, yeah, you know, my I
watched my sister get fucking shot in front of me.
So I drink this every day to fucking just like bring my way.

(02:11:09):
It's always just a horrible, sadstory.
But the crazy part too is is like alcohol.
That's where I saw more of that at.
But like people will be like, you know, people who go who get
pain pills there, they've lived a traumatic life and you know,
it's trauma and all that. And I'm like, no, no pain pills.
That's a different beast becausethey, the people I've seen
addicted to those, they came from good families.

(02:11:31):
They just fucked up by, I don't know, breaking their leg or
having a wisdom tooth removed. That's how addictive that shit
is. Whereas alcohol, you see people
going through that, their wife died, you know?
Well, and I mean, you do have the people that like they had
bad, bad, like shit, why can't Ithink of the word?
Well, no, they just had like badinfluences of like when they're

(02:11:54):
growing up, like they saw their parents use alcohol or they
fought. And like, there's, there's so
many ways that you can be kind of, you can turn what isn't a
problem into a problem just because like you see it as a
certain way. And so like, yes, you have a bad
influence of like, you know, an uncle that thinks that like, Oh
yeah, you're 16, you can drink and then you become his drinking

(02:12:17):
buddy. And then all of a sudden you're
drinking all the time. And like, you go down a path
that your parents didn't set youup for.
And like, there's, there's tons of ways that you can do it, but
a lot of them, yeah, you can be from trauma.
But the the biggest thing, though, is like the pills aren't
there to treat trauma. Yeah, they.
Were pills are the only one because they were prescribed by

(02:12:38):
physicians to like. And the alcohol is not there to
right heal your trauma. The fucking marijuana.
And like, I guess yes, technically psychedelics can
with a fucking therapist, not just you and fucking.
You know, like doing it out in the woods, just being like,
fuck. You and a girl named whisper
that you know you found some fucking mushrooms.
Like no, you you should get the therapist there to be like hey

(02:13:00):
bud, what you should. Get an STD test after the the
whisper. Yes, the whisper experience
definitely get cuz they'll be like, yeah, you know, I had I
had gonorrhea, but I cured it with some cranberry juice.
It's like, what the fuck? Would you tell me this after we
had sex? I licked your butt hole and
everything. Right.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
You got, you got chlamydia. I didn't get the syphilis off my

(02:13:22):
butt hole. I'm still working on that.
And you're like, fuck. All right, guys, listen, this is
definitely. Look, I love stories where we
talk about like, the fucking past and shit like that because
everybody's lived, I think like even the most boring.
You grew up on a cul-de-sac. You had you had crazy
experiences. Yeah, just just crazy
experiences. I love episodes like these where
we talk about stories. If you guys want to support the

(02:13:44):
podcast, you can go to patreon.com/mike or Dylan.
We have that all figured out. And Dylan, is there anything you
want to add? Nothing.
All right, well, listen, I can'twait to see you next time.
I love you so much and I hope you do well in life and and live
you you hear the stories that wetell and you're like, look, I
don't want to do any of that shit.
No, So that's, that's the key toto live in a real good life.

(02:14:06):
That's the best advice. Live vicariously through us and.
Our the stories we warn you withwe're not you know we're warning
you with these stories. Well, it sounds right when you
talk about recommendation. Yeah, every other drug you sound
but Cokie sound like you had a really good.
Time. So that one I, that one's good
to go. Listen, if you have the money,
go for it. If you don't.
Under, under medical supervisionfrom, you know.

(02:14:27):
Like if there's ever a point in where I'm making hundreds of
millions of dollars because here's the thing, I know coke
prices and they'll be like this millionaire blew all of their
money with coke and I'm like, how many people is he buying it
for Jesus Christ? Like what do you you can
literally? You can just move to fucking
Colombia and. Right.
There's no amount you could store that's going to take like
your hundreds of millions of dollars.

(02:14:48):
Listen, I'm out there cheering for Oscar.
Diddy Parties. Parties.
You're buying it for everybody at that point.
If you think about yourself, then it's not really that bad.
But look guys, we'll see you next time later.

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