Men's Mental Health | MADHD Special | - Mike and Dylan HATE! Drama

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Bear never bow down. Mike and Dylan hate drama, but
the Bow Wow. Oh, are we rolling?
We're rolling. Welcome to the special Mike and
Dylan hate drama special. I don't.
I could have, I could have made a like a good little Jingle.
Yeah, I think you just took the brown, brown chicken, brown cow

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for our main one. Brown.
Is that what? Is that what it is?
It's close. I was very close.
Look, whoever owns that, don't sue us, OK?
And nobody owns that. Over what?
No, it's like brown chicken. It's like a just a joke thing.
Guys, look, welcome to the Mike and Dylan Hate Hate drama

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special where we are going to talk today about men's mental
health. Gay Boo.
So we had a submission on Reddit.
Someone was asking about, you know, mental health.
Mike was up in the middle of thenight and responded immediately.
I was up in the middle of the night.

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We'll get up to we'll we'll get into wow, I was up in the middle
of the night. Mike's not being in a lot of
good sleep here lately, but I decided I was like, you know
what, I want to answer that on the podcast, but I want to do a
podcast about men's. It just, it just brings up a
good question about like mental health issues, like, you know,

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with guys and the whole, you know, what kind of mindset does
Mike have getting through his, you know, day-to-day bullshit?
I just thought it would be just a good thing to have.
Well, I think a lot of people don't talk about it.
Like I know, I know it's like talked about, but at the same
time like it comes down to like,do men talk about it with their?
Friends, the 1950s, if you, you were like, you know, I'm feeling

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a little bit sad right now. They'd be like the sun right
now. Are you expressing your feelings
to me? Because we will send you to a
place where they will shock you back straight.
So let's not talk about our feelings right now.
Before, I don't know how to takeyour mind of shed and beat you
until you don't feel anymore. And you got to be cold and you
got to be hard and you got to doeverything that a man is

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supposed to do without feeling nothing.
And then men responded by killing themselves in drugs into
what people would consider todayan epidemic.
Or beating their wives. That was another option.
I think that's more of a just a bad person.
I think the everybody else just is like, you know what, I don't

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want to beat anybody. I'm just going to get it over
with, get it over with. But so men make up 75% of all
suicides in America. I don't know if that's
worldwide. You know, men are three times.
In essence, men are three times more likely to kill themselves.
And that's because of the stigmathat was created that, you know,
you got to be a man and don't bea bitch and.

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And, you know, just fucking justget through it.
Yeah, just toughen up, God. And you're like, well, Papa, he
seems so miserable. And he's like, I am.
And you know, I might, I might hop out of the sixth story of
our building at work, but I'm going to do it like a man.
Yeah, I'm going to accidentally fall out the window.
Oh, no, here I go. It's like, bro, what are you

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doing? You're like 20 feet away from
that window. He's like, oh God, you're starts
to pop. Yeah, it's not gay as he falls
down, but yeah, it is a look, I see a lot of David Goggin
videos, OK, And I see I see people in the comments being
like, bro, he's not that seriousbro.
Like shut the fuck up and and shit like that.

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And look, people in the commentsare, you know, listeners are
going to. I don't know why I said people
in the comment section. I'm so used to fucking just.
Social. Media, What's going on, guys?
It's your boy Felonious Falafel back with a brand new adventure.
But you know, listeners are going to be like, why?
When Mike says that, bro, I agree with David Goggins because

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he's not saying, you know, get out there and fucking run 40
miles. He's not saying get out there
and fucking, you know, exercise and do all this bullshit.
What he says is get up and do the thing that you don't want to
do. Get up and do the thing that you
don't feel like doing even when you don't feel like doing it.
He has a very charismatic way ofsaying it, but in essence,

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that's what he's that's what he's telling people is that it
is my philosophy that you can whine, you can, you can cry like
you can fucking hate the, the shit that you, you go through.
And you could be very, very vocal about it, but you cannot
give up. Like you cannot stop doing

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whatever you're doing to get ahead just because shit sucks.
Yeah, you can change directions.You can like modify.
But like if you have a goal in mind, giving up is.
Is the only way you lose. Don't be the guy at like a
machine who just complaints everyday about how bad the
company is and how bad the the benefits is and, and shit like

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that. And then be the same guy that's
there for 25 fucking years. Like, well, much more like I am
much more. I'll talk shit about the company
with you. Absolutely.
But if I'm at that point, I'm looking for something better,
like I'm trying to to, to get into something better.
And I just wanted to state my philosophy when it comes to

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like, you know, mental health and being a man, how we should
have spun that shit. It's like, look, you know, it's
OK to fucking, you know, grope and fucking moan and yell about
the shit that you got to do as long as you are in the process
of trying to do better. Because doing all of that shit,
whining and crying, but doing the same shit to stay in the
same spot, that's not cool. Like, that's not going to get

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you anywhere. And then we're just whining to
whine. Well, one of the biggest things
is, is doing hard things actually is good for your brain.
Like do it, going through the hard stuff is good for your
brain. Like making it through it though
I don't. Want it to be, though.
I wish it was the easy stuff. It was the easy stuff.
Like, you know, well, I'm getting up to tie my shoes my

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brain just like, good job bro, we did it.
Yeah, no, no, But it's, and I think that's something with what
we've kind of developed as our modern society is, you know,
there's a lot of easy things that you can do and they feel
good, but they don't improve like your mental health, like
your mental health actually deteriorates if you just sit

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around and don't accomplish anything.
Don't try to learn new things, don't try to do new things,
don't try to like, you know, improve your health.
All those things like they're hard, but they're worth it
because they're hard and they actually make your brain better.
You know what, and I'm talking to you listening.
Do you know how lucky you are tohave Dylan here on this podcast

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to actually like be like, OK, now we got an adult in the room.
OK, we have somebody that we canlisten to say rational things.
So I don't know, I kind of lost my train of thought because of
what you were saying. Well, keep speaking on what you
were saying. And then it's going to bring me
back to what I oh, yeah, no, no,I was going to, I was going to
tell you, I was going to start the, the reason why we're doing

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this podcast. All right, so you guys, you
listening often lied me for being an open book.
Look, shit that I go through. I'll tell you that I'm going
through it all right, and I'll crack jokes at it.
No matter how fucking you know, in my past, how weird it was or
how you know people would look at it.

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I don't give a fuck because the most important thing that we can
do as guys, if you have friends that you, you see, are going
through something or just fucking, even if they're not
going through anything, man, thebest thing we can do is talk
about it. Because talking about it brings
you farther away from from the line of overreacting when you

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feel like no one in the world understands you.
You know, we have me and Dylan know a guy who is going through
a lot of, you know, just like health problems, mental issues
and stuff like that. And he started talking to me
about it and you know, I'm telling him, you know, fucking
from, you know, point A to pointB, what's what's happened in my
life. And just like talking about it.
He was just like, man, you know,I've never really been able to

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like talk to somebody and they get it.
I was like, brother, like fucking 99% of all guys, they
get it. But you know, I don't know
people who try to sell courses to 17 year old kids on how to be
a man. We'll call it gay to talk about
your feelings so. Well, and I think a lot of
people they, they don't know howto open up.
Like they, they haven't had the relationships where they can
actually feel like they can be vulnerable enough to talk about

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like that. They're struggling because
struggling like we're all supposed to have it put
together. Like that's one of the other
things with being a man is you're supposed to just know
what the fuck you're doing, trudge through life, like get
your retirement at the end of life and like, that's the
playbook. You're just supposed to work
your ass off and then retire. And like, for the most part,
like a lot of guys don't know how to just be like, I'm

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fucking, I'm doing well. I'm drowning, man.
I can't it fucking. It is a chore to breathe right
now, like it fucking. It hurts to exist and I mean it.
It fucking listen, all right, soback when I had you know,
originally started content creation, I was working in a box
shop. People know that and it was

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around the time I had gotten to like a million followers on, on
TikTok or some shit that I was, I was still working and that was
the closest I came to quitting because I was like, man, I can't
fucking like make money from this shit.
A lot of these, like a lot of creators would hit me up and be
like, well, you just got to like, if you put this link in
your bio, then people can download this game and it cost

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them nothing and you get like $0.25.
I was like, whoa, that's not, that's not real.
You know, I'm, I'm not technologically proficient.
I'm not, you know, proficient with fucking Internet shit or
whatever, but if I don't know it, I'll watch a YouTube video
that Dylan will tell you. That's my like biggest thing in
life. I'm like, hey man, if you don't

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know something, somebody on YouTube does know it.
So I looked it up and essentially what they did was
like you, someone would downloadthe game and they would steal
data. Yeah, and it was really hard to
find an Ave. of there's like, well, you could do merch, which
usually had you going to like a print on demand place.
And I initially did try to do that, but then like people would
hit me up and be like, hey, man,like look at this stuff I got,

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and this was like the biggest one too.
So I was like, I, I don't imagine that the smaller print
on demand merch companies were doing much better.
So it was like to a point where I was like, man, I just, I don't
feel like there's any money in this.
And, you know, and then you start doing the excuses because
you're doing something else likeyou, you have a split focus on

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what you're doing. You're like, well, I'm doing,
you know, 60 hours at factory and then trying to do this.
So it's really easy to go, well,you know, I've had a long day.
I ain't got to post nothing. You know, I've done all this
today. I ain't got to post nothing.
And that continues, man. And there was a point where I
think I'd posted one time in a month and that was the lowest
that I've ever posted. That was really the closest that

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I got to just like, fuck it. So there was a point where I
was, this was after I was a supervisor, I had actually left
and went somewhere for the same amount of pay that I was getting
paid as a supervisor. I went there and it was just
like rough. And which look, you ain't going
to find many factories that, youknow, treat everybody well and

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do the right things and shit. But the breaking point came to
when I was working on a machine and the assistant that I had,
his pregnant sister died of COVID.
She was 8 months pregnant. So they had to do like the
C-section and everything like that.
And I had broke my ankle and they had nobody to run this

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fucking machine. And you know, I like to say,
yeah, I was like the, you know, fuck, y'all go home type shit.
But I'm also like a rational fucking problem.
Like, yeah, there's nobody, nobody to run it.
Everybody's working like six days a week.
By the way, when I got that job,there was like, we never do
that. I got you, bitch.
So, so that fucking sucked. But so I am, I have this brace

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on, OK? And I get to work and they're
like, oh, you can't work with that on because I was like, you
know, I'll come in and I'll do. And I was like, yeah, we'll let
you sit down and whatever. So I have the, it's like a
fucking boot that you have to have on.
It's not like a cast that goes up your leg, but it's like a
boot. And they were like, you can't
have that. You got to have a steel toe boot

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on. I was like, OK, so then I get up
to like where I watch boxes run through and they got two guys
with me that don't know fuck all.
So I'm like, oh, so I have to set the whole fucking machine up
from, you know, feed table to load former got to set this
whole thing up. And then this box shop wasn't

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one of the big box shops. These orders were like 1000
boxes, which, you know, you fucking 10 minutes to run.
So then after that 10 minutes ofbeing able to sit down, I'd have
to run again. So I did a Friday of that and I
was like, fuck that shit, I'll take a Saturday off.
Hey, I was never supposed to work Saturday and B, my ankle
fucking hurts. So I come in on Monday.

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I know that I want to be in trouble.
Like I am prepared to have shit talk to me.
I'm cool with it. What I'm not cool with is the
supervisor comes up to me and hewas like, so yes, since you want
to, I had work Saturday. I just left early.
Like I had work Friday, the whole Friday.
Yeah, just fucked up leg. So Saturday I'm just like, fuck

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this. I actually yeah, did go to work
for the beginning, but like an hour and a half inch.
I was like, Nah, ain't doing this.
I'm done. So he comes up to me and he's
like, well, since you decided you want to leave or look at
this message and it was a message from he's not like the
plant manager. He's not supervisor.
He was something weird in between.

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He was also like leaving the company, but the plant manager
was no, not even in the ballparkof being better.
But I read the message and it was like, well, since Mike and
they put my assistant's assistant's name, didn't want to
come in on Saturday. His sister had died on like
Thursday, had died on like Thursday.
Since they didn't want to come in on Saturday, they could work

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the next weekend. And at that point I was like,
you know what, I have two thingsthat I have going on.
If I focus on one, chances are like I could do something with
that. And I don't talk about it a lot
too, but because you got to, youknow, make the stories funny,
kind of like flow together and shit like that.

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But there was actually a part where I like started just doing
the full time content creation. I quit, started doing that, and
then I was like, fuck, you know,my family's gonna die.
So I had actually got a job at adifferent box shop.
They were great people, good guys.
I was the shitty one because I was still more focused on
content creation than anything in that fucking factory.
But I did work there for like 2 months before they were like,

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brother, you'd never come in. And I was just like, really like
they're like, yeah, you got, youworked there for two months.
You got like 25 points. I was like, well, I'm sorry, you
know every a lot of people thereknew me though.
So that was, it was so weird. They were like, why aren't you
rich? And I'm like, I don't, I don't
know if it works like that, brother.
I don't know what I'm doing. What I think on that point
though, like that you were saying when you were talking

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about everybody telling you to put like a game in there, they
steal the data. Like, I think that's one of the
things that like is tough as being a man, but like is to
stand on principle and like one of the principles that you have
is to not sell out people that are supporting you and.
Like hate that principle so fucking much man.
Yeah, but they only hating that principle too sometimes.

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No, like I mean I'm the. Same when I'm like when I'm
promoting Labour llama and shit and I'm like but she ain't got
to buy if you don't want to. I shouldn't even have to
actually. But looks like Mike don't even
put that in. There we can, but I mean, you
can't like by saying like, hey, buy this, you're not like
forcing somebody's hand to do it.
Like you're just saying like, hey, this, this is something and
that I stand behind. This is a company that I built
and like, I'd really appreciate it if you buy like selling

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things doesn't have to be sleazy.
It it's made into being sleazy by a lot of people.
But like, that's one of the things that I do.
And like my video side of everything is like finding the
way to communicate something to an audience without like being
sleazy about it. Like you don't have to, you
don't have to screw people over to make a living.

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And that's, that's one of the fallacies that becomes real is
because there's so many snake oil salesman, there's so many
people out there that are going to sell you a course that, you
know, literally they took a course and now they've re
repackage that course and now they're an expert on it and
they're coaching for thousands of dollars.
I mean, I see it all the time, but like those are sleazy people
and a lot of sleazy people win because they don't have morals

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or anything, But like you can still win with your morals
intact. And I think that's one of the
things that like, I commend you on be just because like when it
comes to the quick buck, if the quick buck comes at the expense
of those who support you, you'renot going to take the quick
buck. Is this the?
First time on the podcast you'veever said something nice about
me. I feel like this is the first

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time no, somebody will go back. I've never said anything mean
about. We need a we need a nice, I
know, but I think that's like the first.
I mean like real game. Like I say, a lot of like nipple
sucking things to you well. One of the things that, like,
Mike didn't have a dad and so like, there's certain parts.
Well, it starts roasting me immediately.

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One of the parts of like not having that is like you didn't
see a good role model to like help you do things.
Like the other day, Mike mentioned his refrigerator's
been out and I knew his refrigerator was out.
We're going to get into the depths of that story in a
minute. But like, the thing was, is when
he said it to me, like I was like, yeah, it sucks because you
like don't have like much space for freezer or anything like

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that. And he's like, no, the freezer
still works. And I was like, oh, well then
that means you're like system still working.
There's just something causing it not to cool in the
refrigerator. And he's like, and it was like a
light bulb and, but like to see the joy that came over you when
you like were like, holy shit, like this is a chance for me to
like man up basic, like be, be the man of the house and do for

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my family. Like, And it's, it's one of
those things where it like, if you don't know the right
question to ask, you won't get the right answer.
But like, in that moment, like when you said that I, I was able
to like tell you like, Oh yeah, it's probably not that big of a
deal. And you're like, I'm going to
fix it. And like the pride and the joy
that I've seen over the past couple days while you've been

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dealing with it. I almost cried.
Yeah, no, it's, it's emotional and like I, I mean, I this.
Is this is my boy, this is my, this is my look, they're, I'm,
I'm the first person that'll tell you blood don't mean shit,
man. And you're going to meet people
in your life that are not like the the people that you came
from and. No, and those are like the

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moments where and like I've seenlike that's the thing.
When I met Mike, I think I met him damn near his lowest.
Like he wasn't, you know, a fulldrug addict like he had been
when he met his wife. But like he was, he had gotten a
lot of success through social media and then surrounded
himself with people that were like, basically like riding on

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his coattails thinking they weregoing to get rich by like being
friends with you. And so like the, you know, the,
the saying that we've said in the podcast before, but like
that you're the average of the five people you surround
yourself with and the people that you had surrounded
yourself, we're actually bringing you down, not building
you up. So we'll kind of get into that
too. So what Dylan is talking about

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with the like not full blown drug addict is that I non
prescription, by the way, because I'm supposed to not take
stimulant ADHD medicine is I will take Adderall.
Big let down guys, I know. But I literally take it in like
prescription doses. It's not like I'm doing like 150

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milligrams of Adderall a day, 20milligrams.
So the only thing like with Adderall with me is is that I do
have like like horrid insomnia and shit.
So it helps me like keep going when I'm just exhausted.
The only thing is is that yes, while like you know, it's a
stimulant, it'll keep you awake.I'm just Dylan to tell you I'm

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fuck all lazy on the shit, and when I don't do it, that's when
like you seem like Mike that gets shit done, Mike that's
ready to do things, Mike that's happy, like fucking just
Adderall technically, while I'm like, Oh yes, I can person
today. It's not a good person and it's
a it's a pretty not good versionof Mike.

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So I had started when I started on my own, I started to do like
YouTube and stuff like that. So money did like start coming
in TikTok had switched to like this new creator program and I
was like, fuck, yeah, like this is going to be the the shit that
I need to do to actually get there.
The reason I don't like, you know, you know, fucking you

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pushing labor llama and shit like that, which, you know, it's
the clothing brand I love. It's fucking ours and I trust
sending you know that to people.I trust people buying that
because I know they're going to.Get anything that's shit we have
in a box? Yeah, we were like we do this is
this is wrong. We QC everything, me just me and
Dylan just QC everything, mostlyDylan.
So got to throw that in there. So it has started coming in and

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I had a friend helping me and hewould edit the videos and
essentially he would edit the videos to a quality where I
would edit the videos. You know what I'm saying?
But I'm like, Oh well, you're learning and like you're here
with me. And that's the the only thing
was before then he was not there, you know what I'm saying?

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And I guess like, you know, I'm not fucking making a fuck ton of
money, but I am making some money.
I guess like it's like, Oh well this could be something like he
is getting all this, you know, attention and shit.
So I would like pay him. And then it went to a point
where I was like, you know, thatlittle creator fun thing rolled
in and I was like, oh, I could just make them off my phone and
it's more efficient and I ain't got to fucking edit them and

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shit and do that. But then I could like not pay
him, you know what I'm saying? I was like, but he was there and
it's like he's like part of the team and the family and shit
like that. And eventually, so when TikTok
rolls out like a new feature, they hype it up a lot and get
you in it. And then they just fucking
they're like, all right, we're not putting, yeah, we're putting
in a different system. Fuck this system.
We're putting in a different one.

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So, you know, the the money kindof ran out.
He was still there, you know what I'm saying?
But I mean, there's just like nomoney.
And I don't know. He said, like things to me that
I would never, like, say to somebody.
It was just so weird. Like he would be like, yeah,
man, I just feel like, you know,if I don't get paid this month,
I'm kill myself. I'm like, probably what?

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Like what? Yeah.
And like, I guess just to talk about like the relationship
between me and you, like I do have my video business and it's
not running on all cylinders because like my focus is here.
Dylan has worked for free. The God damn.
The whole a fucking this a difference between my friend who

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does not know how to edit versusa guy who many people will tell
you is the best fucking professional videographer they
have ever worked with. The shit that he does is
phenomenal. Not only that, helping me out on
the content side and shit like that.
All but what, 2-3 months? Yeah.
I felt like the the thing that I'm saying though, is like when

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it came down to like there's nota lot of money in there and like
my business had enough that I could pay my bills.
Like I mean, I'm still slowly seeking into debt.
Like I would rather see you not go broke and not be get behind
on your bills. If I can just make do over here.
I don't need what's mine. Like, I'd much rather see us

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like so you know, when you were saying like he had said like or
you had said like, you know, we're growing and we're going to
figure this shit out. Like in those moments, like I'm
thinking like, yeah, we are likethere's no doubt about it that
we're going to get somewhere. We're going to do something.
So like if I have to take it on the chin right now, like we'll
make it up in the future to likelet it get back at it, but.

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Like let me tell you a big difference too is that when you
are, I don't know how many people saw the YouTube, but I
would like do these fucking elaborate like you.
Yes, they were one person and I would have to time that
perfectly. You remember the fucking old
videos I used to make on YouTube, they would be 3 to 5
minute long videos where I am sitting there having a

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conversation with a person who was not there.
And the whole video had to be timed correctly for like, like
my reactions and shit like that.And they were fucking difficult
to make. And I would always end them with
like a crazy ass twist that you never saw coming.
So they were incredible, like incredibly difficult to come up
with. So like I would be at a point
where I'm just like, man, I don't know.
And he's like, well, we got to get something out.

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And I was like, Oh well, you gotany ideas?
No, you come up with something, bro.
If I'm like, I don't know what to do.
Dylan's like, oh, I got like 20 ideas, tell me which one you
like and then we'll start going down.
I'm like, he's just like when you think of this shit is
literally like it started felonious falafel.

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And Dylan, I'm not going to say damn near he puts in more work
than I do. Like when I have my shitty days
and shit like that. Dylan's fucking.
Dylan's still there. Like he's still doing his things
like this just and half the timehe is, you know, wrangling Mike
back into fucking reality where it's like, you know, but you

(25:47):
know, we got and he is incredibly like fucking he's
sincere and honest and a one in a million guy, a one in a
million guy. I'm going to Start Stop fucking.
Well, I. Mean the whole thing is though,
is like what makes us good as we're A-Team like the creativity
like yeah, I can give you some ideas to maybe spark something,
but ultimately, like it does come like this podcast without

(26:11):
you, I'd be at like 50 listenerslike I'd just be chilling here
like yeah in a. Couple years start a real nice
videography podcast. I bet that shit would be doing
numbers. Bro.
You'd be #1 in videography, I guarantee you.
But like, I mean, and and that'sthe biggest thing though, was
like US put together is so much more power.
Like you were great at what you did, but then when I came in

(26:35):
like I could bring something to the table that you didn't.
We we told the story about how we met.
I was going to do we were, I waswanting to do this web series
called the Adventures of Clever Sykes and Peter Basket.
It was a mockumentary about a guy leaving the Illuminati.
So when I had I had initially had a camcorder and a boom mic
and I was like, I think I need somebody that knows what they're

(26:56):
doing. So I looked up videographers in
the area and I'm up at, you know, this building to I was
getting permissions to like shoot and stuff like that.
And I looked up this one becauseI was like, man, I don't
fucking, I don't know what I'm doing.
And when I looked at the address, it was right across the
street. And I don't know, man, it just
feels like, it feels like destiny.

(27:17):
You know what I'm playing like, it feels like, listen, when I
tell like, I can't even tell my kids the story about how me and,
you know, their mom, I can't be like, yeah, you know, she was my
boss and I was like, man, woman died years, but I can bang her.
But I could do it. And then like, I tell the story
of me and Dylan, they're sittingthere just like, Oh my God,
that's fucking beautiful. Like, Jesus Christ.

(27:38):
But so we get to where we're at now, which, like I said, it's
been ebbs and flows. I don't know which one's ebbs
and which one's flows, but it's been it's been rough me and like
it, it's tough to, I don't know,just fucking profit off of, you
know, just being funny without without the expense of somebody

(28:01):
else. And I don't fucking I didn't get
into this to like, you know, sell people shit and fucking do
all that. I just got into it to be funny.
And then I was like, oh man, I can make something on myself.
God damn, my crazy fucking dream.
Get back into a box shop and well, I say all this not to
fucking feel bad for me. Do not sit there and fucking
feel bad. Do not buy a labor llama hoodie

(28:22):
because you feel bad. That's always been a thing that
don't ever fucking like pity. Like don't pity me for my
struggle. I'll get fucking through it.
Well, don't feel pressured for any of it.
Right. Yeah, that's.
The it's if you want to get it but like other than that like.
Don't fucking because at the endof the day, I could go back to a
box shop. The only thing is, once I go
back to a box shop, it's over. All right, it's over the fridge,

(28:45):
the, the refrigerator thing. Listen, yeah, because you know,
Amy's real concerned with it. And I was like, listen, there's
just no good deed goes unpunished.
And I've been saying fuck it, weball for like 4 days now.
Just fuck it. We ball because she's like, oh,
you got, you got to fucking, yougot to figure something out.
You got to like go to the doctor, you got to do something
with your tooth. And I'm just like, something

(29:07):
will happen. Fuck it.
We ball like I got to I like we have to work too.
So our refrigerator, the refrigeration side went out like
fucking six months ago, bro, andwe have been putting like all
the refrigerated stuff in a minifridge.
All right. And I hope the people here in
this is just like that sounds lame as fuck because it was.

(29:29):
And I felt like I felt less thana man that I was like, fuck, I
can't like get a new refrigerator right now because
I'm sitting here God damn playing.
Let's fucking make it in something.
You know what I'm saying? Let's be a fucking star.
I'm sitting here playing God damn star and not being able to
fucking get like a refrigerator and shit, I have a kids.
You know, my middle son's birthday is coming up and you

(29:54):
guys know my tooth broke in halfand it's still not people was
like, Mike, why don't you get a pool?
And it's like $300, which would take half of the $600.00 that I
have in my bank account. And we only get paid once a
month. Like it's it's rough.
Like I said, it's but that's nota reason to fucking like feel
bad or not on that show. So the refrigerator thing, I'm
thinking this whole time that I have to get a new one.
Look, I'm going to tell you guys, I don't know shit about

(30:16):
cars. I don't know shit about fucking
electronics fixing shit around the house.
That shit didn't happen when I was growing up, all right?
The shit that happened when I was growing up was I'd crack
jokes and fucking play outside all day to avoid the fucking
people in my house. So I didn't know how to do that
shit. And when you think of like
refrigeration, you're like all these fucking electronics and
shit. And I can get shocked and
everything like that. So, you know, Dylan knew the

(30:39):
refrigerator had went out and heknew like, because we have a, a
deep freezer. Well, I didn't know that it was
still out. Though, Yeah, because we have a
deep freezer. So you just assume that's why I
keep all the freezer stuff in. And they had mentioned something
and I was like, yeah, but we have a deep freezer.
And then he said, well, that's not going to be.
But we also have the like the freezer side of the
refrigerator. And that's when he's like, well,
if the refrigerator, the freezerside's working, the refrigerator

(31:01):
side will also work. Then it's probably not something
big. So using AI and YouTube I was
able to deduce that it was the defrost system the the heat coil
for the defrost system that wentout.
So that's not a hard fix. I took the refrigerator outside,

(31:22):
like defrosted. Everything took off like all the
fucking back panelling. There was actually a ground wire
that wasn't hooked up that I found out how to hook put back
to where it fucking went and look Ballin listen, but I had
never assumed that I could do this type of shit.
I was like, you know, I'm not that type of I'm a fun dad to my
kids and I you know, I try to pay attention to my wife and
shit like that. I'm not a fucking I'm not going

(31:44):
to be able to fix floors and shit.
You know what I'm saying? Like shit goes out, electrical
psychic goes out, I got to call somebody.
HVAC goes out, I got to call somebody.
I never thought of myself like that.
So I did have a lot of pride when I got that together, man.
Like, it's just a goofy thing. You find your happiness where
you can in life. So I plug it up that night and

(32:07):
it fucking works. And I was just, man, Dylan tell
you, 2:30 in the morning, I wokeup at 2:30 in the morning to try
it out to see if it worked. What's Wilden is like, I don't
even know. Like I think you might have
messaged me about that time, butlike, I woke up.
I think he messaged me first. Somehow, like we but like I
ended up waking up about the same time.

(32:28):
Yeah, I just just went outside to test the fridge and I got a
text from Dylan and I was like, oh, the fucking refrigerator
fucking work. And bro, I'm fucking geeking out
about it. So the next day I'm like, OK,
I'm going to get it in the house.
So Dylan lets me use a Dolly andI take it home and look, man, I

(32:49):
ain't fucking. I ain't got like a brother or
anything. I can call.
He's here editing. I'm not going to, I'm not going
to be like, hey, Dylan, come up here and help me get the fridge.
I should have. I should have because when I
went to go lift this fridge, I just felt like a tear and pain
in my stomach. So like I said, no, no good
deed. You get the happiness and it
just takes it takes it right back.
Yeah, like, I mean, I just unloaded like a £250 freezer in

(33:13):
my driveway by myself, but I've done enough moving and stuff
that I'm like, I know how to do this and like I still should
have somebody help me but. I'm like, God, why are you so
awkward? Like I'm trying to get this
thing and so I had to get it outof like the lip of the house.
So I'm sitting there like tryingto lean it back and fucking
picking up one end and putting it on the fuck.
I'm strong as fuck for nobody that fucking does anything

(33:34):
physically active. I don't know why I'm strong as
fuck and I got like some muscle and like definition in my I'm
just like, I don't know. He's be gay man.
Fuck, I think I was like, supposed to be.
Like somebody called you a Viking and one of you're not.
There we go, there we go. Now I'm going to start doing,
I'd do the braids if I didn't have a big ass bald spot.
So now I got this fucking just terrible stomach thing on top of
the two thing and just absolutely going through it.

(33:58):
And then we get a Reddit post last night, which finally we can
kind of get into the fucking video about men, men's mental
health and not Michael's struggle with lifting a
refrigerator. So I saw this and this is what
just kind of in inspired me to be like, let's do an extra
podcast for this week, which I'mthe last person that would do

(34:19):
that, but the title is men's mental health.
Hey Mike and Dylan, I need some advice on how you all stay
motivated to do productive things in your life when you are
struggling with your mental health.
I've been going through a depressive episode for the last
couple of months. I normally love going to the gym
and staying on top of my fitnessbut since this spell has started
I have not been going as much. I have dropped almost 20 lbs

(34:42):
which is crazy because if I stopped working out I'd go up 20
lbs. I find it hard to eat and find
find it difficult to get the motivation to get back in the
gym. How do y'all get back into doing
what you love when you don't want to get out of bed in the
morning? Also I love the pod and as we
get through the day that might at that last line might also be
wild. I was like oh fuck.
You. Yeah, We'll put you on.
Yeah, if he's if he ended up with like pods, all right, I'm

(35:04):
like mom, we might get. We'll answer this on the on the
Reddit. But I just like you guys, know a
lot of the fucking shit that I struggle with and it's a whole
just, I don't know, layer cake full of shit.
And this is always been my philosophy kind of goes back to

(35:25):
the whole, you know, you could whine, you can cry, but fucking
do something about it. And that is right now I'm trying
to make it in something that I don't know, you know, if we can
make it in, it's a very scary thing to go away from something
that is steady like a full time job to be like, oh, I'm a bet on

(35:46):
myself. Which, you know, when I said I
was going to bet on myself, everybody looked at me and I was
like, really? You going to bet on you?
All right, but there's a job here if you need it.
Is there somebody that can? Can I take side bets on the
other side of this? Right, look, I fucked over the
over under though, because it's been like a year and a.
No, it's been shit. We've been working together over

(36:07):
2 years. Yeah, so it's been fucking
beginning of 2022. Yeah, something like that.
God damn listen y'all can fucking like Fact Check my shit.
I would never get the dates right.
I will never get the dates right.
I retired from retired is like my, my wife threw me a party for
my retirement and I retired October 2021 and I've been doing

(36:30):
this since then. And yeah, so it's, but yeah,
like, I mean, with, with what I've been doing, like that first
year, it was like 100% like, areyou going to stick with this?
Are you going to do it? Are you going to do it?
Because I went from having like good savings to literally $0.00.
And right when I was like hitting $0.00, I was like, I'm

(36:52):
going to have to find a job or something.
And then like a job rolled in and like like a video job rolled
in and then like broke again. And then another one came in and
another one came in. And like, not that I've been,
there's never been a moment in those.
I guess it'll be 4 years this year.
There's never been a moment where I'm like, you know, things
are picking up, we're good. But at the same time, like I've

(37:15):
gotten to spend a shit load of time with my family.
I've gotten to like not take them on vacations and do all the
cool things that I could do if Ihad a regular job.
But like, I've been there through I can take my kids to
their doctor's appointments, allthat stuff.
That is 1 fucking phenomenal thing because I could be in a
factory working 70 hours a week barely getting by instead of,
you know, trying to play funny guy, being a couple bills

(37:36):
behind. You know, I'm saying I do get
infinitely more time with my kids.
My oldest daughter for the first, you know, seven years of
her life, I got to see her on Sunday maybe.
So that is 100% a blessing. And also I tell people not to be
sad because it's like, or don't feel fucking pity and shit like
that. If anything, just be like, just

(37:56):
go fucking get a job, dumb ass. Like it's, it's not something
you should feel bad about. But to answer this question of,
you know, with the mental healthand how do you get out of bed?
I just have this idea that look,I can like fail at doing
something. OK, I can take a loss and

(38:18):
something, something can get taken down.
I can get demonetized on a platform.
Shit can happen. Shit can happen in droves.
Fucking it can it can compile itself onto each other, but I
don't actually fucking lose until the day I just quit.
That's when I lose. That's when, you know, we I
couldn't cut it as, you know, someone trying to fucking, you

(38:39):
know, entertain people. That's when I lose.
I, I could work my whole fuckinglife and, you know, struggle to
get by and always be behind and then fucking die.
But I didn't lose in that instance.
I just didn't make it. That's it.
I didn't fucking lose. I just didn't make it.
There's a lot of stories that you hear about people working at

(38:59):
something really fucking hard until the day they died.
That's not a fucking loser, all right?
That's someone who gave it theirall and just didn't make it.
It happens in life. It happens in life like that is
that is a part of life. Some people make it, some people
don't, all right, But if you really believe that you can do
something to just you're fullestextent, if you're like, this is

(39:20):
this is what I want to do. This is what I know I can do.
If you give it your, if you giveit your all and it look, I'm, I
could say each and every day, man, but there's going to be
days where it's going to be hard.
There's going to be days where you want to fucking quit.
You're going to take time off ofof working out.
It's a fucking part of life. But as long as you just don't
stop, like as long as you can fucking have your Boo Hoo, your

(39:42):
fucking pity party and shit likethat and get back to it, you
will never fucking lose at what you're seeking to accomplish.
Yes, shit could happen and you might not make it.
That does not make you a loser. That makes you a fucking man who
went through all that bullshit. Look, till the day he fucking
died, went through all that bullshit with everything telling
him to stop and just in the faceof that saying no, I'm going to

(40:03):
continue. And that in my books is not a
fucking loser. All right?
This is just not a loser. Life is.
Bro, a motherfucker like it's, it's the worst motherfucker
you're going to meet in your life, all right there.
It doesn't, it doesn't care about you.
It doesn't hate you. It doesn't care about you, OK?
And it's different. It's going to, it's going to

(40:23):
stack up things on you. It's going to stack up losses.
It's going to stack up Angers death, fucking betrayal.
It's going to fucking, you know,shit's going to happen, man.
Things are going to become fucking unbearable.
But you can never allow that to let you know for you to stop.
You shouldn't allow it to make you quit.

(40:46):
You have to get through it. Because if you stop, once again,
life is indifferent. It's going to keep piling it on.
Whether you are fucking going through this, just the shit
miserable as fuck, or you are content with the bullshit that
you deal with on a daily basis. Life is not going to quit
stacking shit on your plate. It's not going to happen.

(41:07):
So in my eyes I would rather be fucking miserable with a God
damn broken tooth in my fucking mouth and a stomach that I
didn't get. I got an hour of sleep last
night before I thought I had a dream about a monster eating my
back and then I woke up. I was like oh it hurts.
So it fucking, you know, it wokeme up.
But I would rather go through all that shit, all right, and

(41:30):
just fucking die not making it, then to honestly be miserable at
a fucking factory and just getting by and being content
with the life that I have, you know, damned myself to.
Well, not to say that that's wrong because for some people
that makes sense. Like some people that is that is

(41:51):
the path and that's a good path for them.
So like, you know, each person is different in this world.
And some people like the factory, life is perfect for
them. Yeah, they hate their job.
Per SE, that's all I'm saying. But I'm saying like box shops I
know. Especially when they all the
other box shops refer to the boxshop I worked at as gladiator
school. I was just like.
Wow. No, I know you're not saying

(42:11):
that like two people, That's all.
I'm just trying to clarify is that whatever it is in life and
you can work the factory job andthen have that passion outside
of that, whether it's your family or whether you're into
fishing or hunting or skateboarding, whatever,
whatever your thing is. Like, like I think that's the
point you're trying to get across.
Like you chose, you wanted to entertain as your job, but like

(42:35):
technically if you were still working in the box shop and you
were entertaining, like it's if you give up on that, on that
dream, that's when you lose. That's when I lose, right?
Once again, you know, Dylan is the adult in the room.
What I meant by that is it is perfectly OK to be like, look, I
work a shitty job. I don't give a fuck because, you

(42:56):
know, I work, you know, 5-6 daysa week, whatever, I go home, I
have a good time with my kids. I enjoy, you know, that, that
that is what brings me happiness.
And you know, this job is, you know, not too shitty where I
don't get to see them. So there is absolute beauty and

(43:17):
in finding, you know, just, you know, happiness in life, there's
a difference between like being content and happy and then being
content and and miserable at, you know, what's going on.
And that was more So what I'm Speaking of.
If you are listening right now and you're like, fuck, there is
something that you know, I've always wanted to do and you're

(43:38):
you're sitting at a place that you don't want to be at.
You got to, you got to try, man.You got to, you got to fucking.
You got to make time if you ain't got it, and that's going
to require sacrifices, whether it's, you know, sleep or social
time with your friends, you got to you got to keep on keeping
on. Because I'm going to tell you
something, man. Like since I was a kid, I was
like, fuck, you know, I want to make people laugh.

(44:00):
I've been through shit, man. So it brings me happiness to
make people laugh and I don't know.
Yeah, I like, I could never. You just can't let it go, man.
I always told myself because, you know, I did like the fucking
stand up comedy and shit like that.
And I was, you know, writing like goofy little fucking movies
and shit and, you know, being funny in front of my friends.
And I was always like, you know,if I don't make it about 30, I'm

(44:23):
just going to just do this. Well, I think when.
It already came around and I wassaying I can't, you know, and
and it was I think the June thatJune was when like shit started
to happen. So I am I am glad Mike, you
know, fucking a can't stick to aschedule.
So Dylan tell you that cannot stick to a schedule.
That's great because I was goingto quit by fucking 30.

(44:44):
But if there's something that you just really want to do and
everything in your fucking body and in your mind says that you
should not do it, you're not going to be happy unless you
fucking at least give it your all.
And look, it sounds like a lot, but that if you, if you give it

(45:04):
your motherfucking all, like you'll find something in it.
You'll you will find something in it might not be money.
And you know, not a lot of people are looking for that.
That's not what something I'm looking for.
I was in my brain. I'm like, bro, I would me and
Dylan talked about this, you know, fantastical world where we
made like, you know, fucking $80,000 a year, enough to feed
our family. And we just like wrote skits and

(45:25):
shit like that. Content creation doesn't quite
work like that. And we're trying to figure that
part out. But that's like the goal, bro.
I'm not sitting here like, yeah,I want fucking 10 million.
I just want to be able to to live comfortably doing what I
love. Well, and I think one of the
people that I know you have a lot of respect for him, but a
lot of people like to shit on and like basically some like he

(45:46):
does a very good job of summing up kind of your point there is
Gary Vee, like when he talks about it, he's like, you know,
like you only got one life like you, you can do this, but like
sometimes you're it's going to be giving up friends, it's going
to be giving up the vacations, it's going to be selling the
nice he. Just got like Gary Vee just
happened to get it big when likereally until I like the
zeitgeist when all the other like crypto Bros and well, he's

(46:09):
not a crypto, but you know, withthe crypto Bros and the people
trying to just like sell you courses on how to be a man came
up. So they just kind of lump him in
there where he's like, look, if you're happy and you are, you
know, working a job, an office job where you work 40 hours a
week and you make, you know, fucking $70,000.
You go home to your family and everything.
That's awesome. That's, that's great.
Where you got like the other ones that'll be like, that's not
a fucking a man should be will want to make a million bajillion

(46:31):
dollars, take $5000, go buy you 9 houses.
OK, Get a loan from the bank for$10 million.
God damn, anybody can do it. He's he's different.
Like he you, you know the one video that I fucking I showed
Dylan, even though he's like more knowledgeable about Gary
Vee than I am, I'm just telling that girl that she's already a
part. Like you are already somebody
and that like I have never been like William Mike, you're a

(46:53):
nobody. It's just like I have set my
brain to do this and through hell or high water, I got to
fucking do it. And that's what adds on to like
the like the mental health shit that.
So on this can I talk about likewhat I would do in his scenario?
Yeah, let me just touch on the mental health part and then
because I know you got to like aDylan has brought show and tell

(47:17):
stuff. He's brought stuff for the for
the class to see. But on the the mental health
stuff, once again, I talk about like the emptiness and how
emptiness is just the, the fuck?That's the worst.
The worst feeling is the absent of feelings.
It's terrible. And Dylan, tell you what I'll

(47:40):
do, man. I'll sit in my fucking car
smoking a cigarette, watching fucking it's not over until I
win, you know, fucking just motivational fucking speech
until I get a spark to do what Igot to fucking do, man and is it
painful? Sometimes yes.
Is it hard? Sometimes Abso fucking lutely do
does some do I fail and then notdo the things?

(48:02):
Sometimes yes, that does happen.That does happen.
I'm not sitting here like I might go to work every fucking
day and does it. That's along their point is
like, you know, they're like, you know, I've lost 20 lbs of
muscle not fucking doing this. Just get back to it, man.
Like find that spark. There's various things you could
be going through a lot of different things.

(48:24):
If you try to find the spark, you will like it's the spark to
fucking do something. If you try to find it, you will
find it. That is, I have felt the
emptiness of mental illness, thefucking just the complete dread,
the the hopelessness of it. And through that shit have been
able to find it. Because once again, if you

(48:47):
believe that you can fucking that, if you could believe that,
you can do it for the day. Here's the coolest thing that I
ever fucking heard. I don't know who the fuck taught
it to me or fucking said it. Probably some white woman with
the same name of his yogurt brand or some shit.
But they were like, don't think of the task as like you're

(49:08):
trying to fucking go work out and get all these muscles and
shit, bro. Just go to the fucking gym and
be like, look, I'm gonna walk ontreadmill for 10 minutes.
That's it. I'm I'm gonna take my ass home.
That's it. That's all I'm gonna go do.
Because here's the thing about mental illness, like especially
like with your ADHD and shit like that, when you think of a
whole project, that shit's overwhelming.
Like it's overwhelming and it just like, yeah, I got to do all

(49:29):
this shit. But if you're like, man, look,
I'll just that's what I'm like, yeah, man, I'm here.
I'll do podcast or something andthen we fucking work and have a
great fucking day because I am not.
I'm just like, hey, I'm gonna get in there and just do
something little man. And that works with anything.
And like anything that you have to do, any project that you

(49:49):
gotta do, if you're like, hey, I'm just gonna fucking, I think
someone compared it to like a dirty room and they were like,
you know, if you got this just dirty room that's completely
destroyed, looking at that, you'd be like, fuck, there's so
much shit. But if you're like, you know
what, I'm just going to fucking just like rearrange this shit
right here. I'm telling you, man, like the
the biggest, the easiest way to find that spark is to kind of

(50:10):
fucking think of it like that. And then to just start doing it.
Because then once you start doing it, then while you're
getting the spark, you're already fucking doing it.
So now you're, you're just fucking in it, man.
And before you know it, you willbe back.
And I have 100% confidence that because you said, hey, like, you
know, I feel bad that I didn't go to the, the gym and do this.

(50:30):
And you know, how do you get through it with mental health?
I know you have that want to find that spark.
So just having the want to do itand the, the want to be better.
I 100% believe that not only areyou going to get back into the
gym, but you're going to get back into the gym and you're
going to hit your fucking stride, man.
And, and you're going to be ableto do things that you that you
didn't think you're going to be able to go farther than you

(50:52):
thought you could because yes, you stopped going for a little
bit, but it ate at you. Like it fucking bothered you
enough to, you know, post the status in our, our fucking
subreddit. So that shows that you have the
want, and I got complete confidence that you're going to
fucking knock it out of the park.
Yeah, like, I mean that was you covered a lot of what I was

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going to say. So thanks for stealing all of my
material but. I saw it in your hands.
I was like. Oh, he's about to say.
This. Oh, he's about to say some real
Gandhi shit right here. So like, my biggest depressive
episode I had in my life was I broke up with a girl that I'd
been dating for four years. I cheated on her to break up the
relationship so I felt like shit.
Solid strategy. You know they usually don't want

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to. Continue that.
No, no, she tried to come back like she was the one that didn't
trust me at all. And so then I did, oh, no, not
trust me. And like, it was a shitty
strategy, but it was the way that I could put it in my brain
that like, we're done because we'd broken up a bunch of broken
up, but not actually broken up and everything was going to be
better. And so like I did that and then
at the same time, my dog had died and then my parents moved

(52:00):
away. My parents have like lived with
me off and on throughout my adult life.
Like I I had a house and then I allowed them.
To move. I love you brother.
I guarantee you there's a country song that hits every
single need you just say it. But so like all that was going
on and so I was living at my house by myself.
I, I had buddy, my other dog, but that was, that was like a

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period of my life where I didn'treally, like all my friends were
married. So I didn't really have anybody
to like go out and do anything with.
And so I found myself in this like, perpetual loop of like,
I'd wake up in the morning and go to work, come home from work,
sit around the house, go to sleep, wake up, do the same
thing. And so like, I had nobody in my
life. And at that point, like, I was

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like, I got to pull myself out of this.
And like, I couldn't just like, all of a sudden be like, I'm
going to go, you know, socializeand do all this stuff.
So I was getting into photography, I think, before the
depressive episode. And then I was like, let me just
go out and take pictures somewhere.
And so like, I'd go out and do something.
And then I decided to make that trip further and went to the

(53:05):
mountains. And then like eventually it
learnt, it LED into like a 5000 mile road trip all the way out
to like Arizona and Utah and allthis other stuff.
But like, I found myself like doing things simply to do
something because like sitting around the house, even if you're
like watching TV or playing video games or doing anything
like that, like you, you get so internalized that that the

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depression feeling never goes away.
Like it, you're just like stewing in it.
And the only way that I could like, get it to like start going
away was to go in to do those little things.
And then it eventually led to melike, you know, going out to
grab a drink by myself at the bar.
And then, oh, I met some friends, while I like not
friends, but like I'd meet new people.
And so then like, it just started to snowball into like me

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regaining who I was prior to thedepressive episode.
And so like with with your situation here, like you're not
going to the gym and everything,like just go out for a walk, go
for go for a walk. Like I know that's not going to
the gym, but like just go do anything like the smallest
little thing that you can do, just start.
Like what Mike is saying is likeif you're cleaning your room, if

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you clean a shelf instead of thewhole room, it's going to
snowball into more stuff. And so it doesn't have to be go
to the gym and necessarily walk on the treadmill, like walk
around your house or your neighborhood or your apartment
complex or whatever. Like just take a walk and like
start with something bite sized that can then start helping your
brain like realize that like, yes, this sucks, but like, we're

(54:35):
going to get through it. We're going to be OK.
And it will snowball into you getting back to probably better
than you were before the depressive episode.
And so like, that's where I brought my show and tell.
Like I've got just this is my atwork collection.
I haven't read them while I'm atwork.

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It's all like, you know, wishfulthinking.
But like, I've got like a bunch of self help books that
throughout my life, like part ofthe reason why I don't think
I've fallen down so much, part of the reason why like I, I can
push myself through things better than a lot of the people
around me is because I started like reading these things when I

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was like 18. I had an ex girl or a girlfriend
at the time. Her brother-in-law started me on
self help books. And you know, like at 18 I was
like, these are kind of cheesy. But then I started reading them
and ended up getting to a point where I was like, OK, well, like
even if they are kind of cheesy,like the lessons in them aren't

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necessarily cheesy. And so like without atomic,
atomic habits, like that's one of the things in there is like
if you do want to go to the gym,you get all your workout stuff
ready the night before and set it like right by the door before
you are like right by your bed, wherever it's going to be really
convenient that like you can't be like, well, I got to do all

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this stuff together. No, Make it easy so that you can
then start developing that habit.
I do want to make it clear nobody from any self help thing
has ever paid us or gave us any fucking money.
I don't want to. No, and like Atomic Habits, like
it's it's one of those things where like if you want to
develop a habit, like he's got the playbook in there and you
can find it all online for you don't have.

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To read a bunch of books like that too so.
But like The thing is, is like with this situation, like you
have to make it easy for yourself to start taking the
steps to get out of the funk because that's really all it is.
Like, yes, there's chemistry in your brain, but like the
chemistry in your brain is affected by your actions.
So if you start taking those small steps, then like the

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dopamine responses and all that.I don't know all the Physiology
behind it, but like there's plenty of chemicals that when
you start doing things in a positive way, like towards what
you're trying to do and it's going to start snowballing
towards being a more positive outcome.
I think it's that delicious fucking chemical called

(57:01):
serotonin. Serotonin.
God, yeah. I would like to come up out of
that. So I do have a question from the
story you just told when you went out and took the pictures.
Is that what kind of like led into the like you doing video
and stuff? Yeah, like, I mean, I, I did
video like Jackass style videos back when I was like teenager
and everything. And I took darkroom photography.

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But like one of my friends, he was taking pictures like he was
doing like modeling, like takingpictures of models and stuff
like that. And I never really liked taking
pictures of people. So I started going out to like
parks and things like that, doing landscape photography.
And then one of my other buddieswas working with this guy doing
like music videos. And I was like, yeah, that
sounds pretty cool because like I didn't really touched on video

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much. And so I was just like, hey, can
I go help on the music videos? And then that turned into me
taking all my experience from like, all the like, side hustles
and stuff that I've done and like how to market and all that
and pairing that together with video.
And that's really where my videobusiness came from.
That is a beautiful story. I do have to joke on it though,

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because you starting by going totake pictures like of outside of
like a park and shit, that's like every white woman with the
iPhone. Like that's their dream is where
you got to. You know they do.
They do it, but then they quit. Did you see my Instagram?
I think my pictures are a littlelittle bit better.
Enjoy the joke man. You know how they take a picture
of a chair in black and white and they're like fucking so

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profound like that is that's it right there.
They're just like you are what they think in their mind.
No, when I got back into it, I my the camera that I purchased.
I purchased because I wanted to take astrophotography, so
pictures of the stars and so like I'd.
Terrifying. I see pictures of like Australia
and the fucking whatever they call it down under backwoods.

(58:50):
I don't fucking know, something like that, but where it's just
like the fucking constellations and shit like that.
Petrified. So you can actually see that at
like Oak Island, you can see it with your naked eye there
because it like faces South, butlike technically the coast comes
in. So there's not a lot of light
pollution. And that was like one of the
first times that I ever really got to see the full.

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Do you know the guy or do you know the author of the book you
showed us? Yeah, it's James.
James. Clear, like, you know about him.
Yeah. OK.
I just didn't want us to be likepush a book and be like some
Bill Cosby shit. No, I was like, whoa, whoa,
listen, I just like, I just like, what was Bill Cosby Show?
Yeah, fuck the Jesus look, keep it easy.

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That's why it's like, keep it. Easy.
Well, no, like with this guy, hehe was going to be like probably
would have been like a professional baseball player,
but like his senior, I think it was a senior year, somebody went
to hit a ball and when they let go of the bat, it like crushed
his skull. And so he was like intensive
care and like all this stuff. And then he ended up like trying

(59:56):
to like get better, get better so that he could start playing
baseball again. But then he realized that like
he was never going to be at the level that he was.
And but through all those, thosethings, like he, he was
developing habits that really like helped him achieve things.
And so he just kind of developedthe playbook for that.
That's dope. I do want to reiterate that I

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have no clue who that guy is or that book.
And I did this like as a the show and tell joke that God did
not give us any money because I was like, fuck, that would be
fucking crazy to be like, you know, sob story and then be like
fucking. But here's a self help book that
can fucking change everything. Because my my philosophy is it's
always good to to better yourself and like to get

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confidence in yourself and that's going to help out a lot.
But just like speaking about theissues, man, like the
normalizing, talking to your friends about just like, bro,
like I'm fucking, you know, I'm sad.
And look, man, there's this one video, I love that this friend
is like, you know, if I was feeling depressed, would you

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guys talk to me? And they're like, fuck, no
fucking. And they're like calling them
gay and shit like that. And they was like, I would tell
you to jump, alright, you know, shit like that.
But you know, like at the end ofthe day, those are the same guys
that if he was feeling that way,he would fucking talk to.
And that's just, it's just something we got to like fucking
normalize and change about the fucking perception of man.
Cuz there is a perception of manthat you know, you need to

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provide, maybe fucking serve in the military, fix shit and God
damn, keep your mouth shut aboutlike you're a fucking man.
You just need to fucking stick your chest out and fucking deal
with it. And the I don't know man, it
just, it does feel like a a lot of the guys who like we grew up
having that told to us, then we're like kid diddlers too.
Like they they always do like the most fuck shit or like you

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said, like they'll beat their fucking wives or kill them or
say that some shit like the fucking snap.
It's just it's a it's a different time, man.
It's it's where we do have to talk about this shit now,
especially what social media andyou know, everybody lives this
just fucking happy life and everybody so fucking happy.
Nobody's goddamn happy, Like nobody is truly fucking happy.
Nobody lives in an existence where the time they wake up, the

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time they go to bed, they're just in a state of just fucking
happiness. It's not real.
Social media will get you thinking that, man.
And that's why even now, like now more than ever,
conversations, talking to friends and stuff like that is
important because that immediately let somebody know
that there is somebody out therethat fucking feels the same way
as you do. Or just listen to a goddamn

(01:02:30):
Jelly roll song. Cuz look, every time I've heard,
I don't, I'm not a like a fan ofJelly Roll.
I like him as a person. He seems to do all good stuff
and be a really nice guy when his songs play.
They're all sad. Look, they're all sad.
That is a good thing though, to like listen to sad music because
that is an artist speaking on, you know, the sad shit that you,

(01:02:51):
you know, have going on in life.And I know a listener is going
to bring up the the Dax song. That's like the be a man.
I don't agree with that song. Actually, I I like it.
It bops like it's a it sounds good and the chorus is really
good. But in that like he talks about,

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you know, just like women, they only want you for like money and
shit like that. And your kids only watch for
look, I'm going to tell you right now, your children maybe
when like they're teenagers, youknow, they see their other, you
know, teenage friends getting shit.
They might say something out of the way that they don't fucking
mean, but they love you regardless like they love you

(01:03:31):
completely. Regardless, as long as you don't
treat them. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As long as like as long as this goes without saying, as long as
you are being, you know, a dad to them.
They like, look, a kid is not going to remember the shit that
you get them, OK? They are going to remember the
times where, you know, they wentoutside and fucking played this
game with dad. That's what they're going to

(01:03:52):
fucking think about, man. There was I took my youngest
daughter to the beach. This is when we I think we when
we just had her or middle son was like very babyish, OK.
And she had to be like, you know, four or five years old.
Look, I'm doing the math on how old my kids are in my head.

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So yeah, he was little B baby. But I remember we stayed in like
just like this like shack that'slike far away from the ocean.
So there was a pool right out back.
We're at the beach, right? We're like, I don't fucking walk
out there, but it's like gettingevening time, you know?
And she has never swam during the the evening time.
And we go out to this pool that's just in the back that,

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you know, you don't think anything's going to happen.
And they have these fucking lights.
Come on, man. And I guarantee you, me and her
played in that fucking pool for like 6 hours.
And she'll bring that up. She'll be like, remember that
pool we went to that just had like the fucking lights when we
played? Nothing about a God damn beach.
Not a singular thing about a beach.
She was like fucking, she was jumping off and shit like that.

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And women, look, women is just like it.
Women are people. They're just like guys.
You go get some bad ones, you goand get some good ones.
Love is tough love. You know, I, it's my philosophy.
Once you find the right person, you get as much as you put in.
When you got to communicate likethat's one of the tough things.
And that I deal with that with my wife is like, she doesn't

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know the stress and all the stuff that's going on in my
brain. We we make it look good.
Yeah, I don't. Talk anything about it we.
Make it look good. And so like, she's like, I
didn't realize you had like, because like once you know
enough dominoes fall, you like break and you get like angry and
you're like, well, I'm doing this and this.
And then you spout it all off. And then she's like, I, I didn't

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know, like you haven't said anything.
And I was like, Oh yeah, look, that's how I handle it is I just
bottle it up. I take care of it.
I just do all the things I like without any help.
I don't ask for help. I just do it all.
And then like until I reach a breaking point and then like I
take it out on the wrong people.And then I realized like, well,
that was an asshole way to do it.

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But like, that's the only time that I feel like I can like
actually open up when I'm like angry and like want to spout it
all off. But like other than that, I'm
just like, no, no, I'll take care of that.
Nope, take care of that. And I just like take all of it
on. And, you know, expect everybody
to know everything, all the responsibilities that I have on
my plate without ever once voicing like, oh, yeah, I'm kind

(01:06:23):
of stressed about this. I kind of got that going on.
I I don't say it calmly because like, I just don't say it until
it's like a huge thing. Dylan was once describing a
person and in his life, I'm not going to say the relationship
great guy, by the way, but he hejust like, he's the one of the,
you know, older types that likesto bottle the stuff in and then
he lets it go. And it's not like they're

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they're being mean to you, but they're very fucking passionate
at a time where you're like, whoa, where's this coming from?
And then what's so funny is right after Dylan tells me that
story about that relative, we start having a conversation.
I forgot what the fuck we were talking about, but he's like
going the fuck off. And I'm like, remember what you
just told me about? And he was like, oh, fuck yeah,
I just saw that. You know, the the good part is

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too with the well, I guess the good part is like, she, she sees
it now because I've been dealingwith the burger too, for three
weeks. And now I got the stomach thing
and I remember when she first said like she was like, look,
just go to like that little dentist school and get a pool to
be like two $300.00. And I like, I'm listening.
I'm like, we ain't got a fuckingfridge.
We ain't got this, we ain't got this, we ain't got this, we

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ain't got this. Like I got to fucking do this,
this, this. I'm fucking like, I'm fucking
drowning. The last thing I care about is
this God damn tooth. Like I will fucking I will what?
What's the fucking Tom Castaway?I will castaway this shit
because I we made that joke yesterday with the pliers.
I was like, look man, I've been watching that fucking scene
where he does it with the fucking ice skate.

(01:07:46):
Trying to figure out how to do it how to?
Pop it because he just passes out and he wakes up he's fine
he's out in the fucking desert Look has to be close to being
real. It's in a movie.
Jesus Christ, But you know, it'sjust like we don't we don't like
showing people the struggle because look, that's that's one
thing, man. I fucking it's a heartwarming

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thing. It's the most heartwarming thing
a dad don't want to fucking hearis when a kid says I want to be
just like you, dad, just like man, I don't want that for you.
No, I don't fight it. Just like that's that's the last
thing I want is for you to have to go through that shit.
But it's just it's talking aboutit, man, and talking about it
makes shit better like it does. There would be shit when me and

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Dylan would be working that, youknow, I didn't feel comfortable
with. And then I bro, I just started
telling them everything. Bro, I was struggling like with
the fucking listen, I am in the camp.
Adderall is just not good for you.
Like it's just not good because if I am diagnosed with something
and that shit is like bad and I'm just like, I can't, I can't
imagine what it's doing to the people that just fucking and

(01:08:55):
maybe it's just me. Look.
And people really do find like they're I just, I just felt
like, yeah, I could get focused on something.
It was not the right shit. Like, you know, fucking could I
do it and then go play some Eldon Ring for 8 hours?
Absolutely, Mike. You're going poor while you do
that. Well, I think that one of the
interesting things that you noticed though was like when you
came off of it, you're like, I played a couple games like a

(01:09:17):
little bit and then I got bored.I.
Could not like normally I would play fucking just it's on my
phone. Magic arena bro.
I'd play that 15 games. Best of three people who play
Magic will be like, what the fuck, Mike?
That's what I would do. I cannot get through two games
without being like, I just, it'snot even like man, like, you
know, I want to go work. It's just like I want to do

(01:09:38):
something fucking else than this.
Like it's just not. When you had your fun and like
you're like, OK, well, like that's enough.
Like I just. The best thing though, is so
like I talk about the, you know,tramadol abuse back in the day
where I was doing a fuck ton of it.
I went to work. I never spent any money on it.
I'm not going to tell you I got to have a good grandma, all

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right. She was like, I'm not going to
tell you, I'm going to fuck you.But like all that shit.
I don't know. It's really hard to be like, you
know, because you see some people that go through drug
addiction, they ruin their fucking lives.
Like they do all that shit. So to me even talk about it and
then I'm just like, well, they're like, what did you do
that you know? Have you ever been to like a

(01:10:20):
fucking like a rehab and shit like that?
I'm like, Nah, I just be like, you know, we got a like stop or
like, you know, take a break or something.
Like I could, I could do that. And I did that with the
Adderall. And then I went through with the
like the first big withdrawal from it because it's not been
like a fucking like a like a super long thing.
It's been quite long, more than a year.

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But like I said, I never did because I know me too.
I guess I'm a good self aware drug addict.
I still want it. I still want to do it.
The most I would take in one singular day was 40 milligrams
and that would be like a Friday night if I was going to play
some like magic or shit, you know what I'm saying, Laura, I
had to be fucking extrovert because I was so convinced I was
like, I'm not an extrovert. I'm an introvert.

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And then all these introverts was like, really, you are not
you are not an introvert. And I got off the Adderall and
then I was, you know, fucking talking to people in public, Ian
and I was just like going up to somebody and, you know, asking
them about their day. So, like I said, once again, it
could be it's we're not going toget into like a Beatles, a
fucking marriage thing where youknow my gifts his either jaded

(01:11:22):
or biased opinion. It could be different for other
people, but I just I was like, man, that's just this is not
good, honestly, which I don't count weed as when people are
like self medication. Weed is just it's a plant and
literally can do no like physical harm to you.
I wish I could enjoy that. You can develop bad habits with

(01:11:43):
it, but it's not the. Weed, like it can make you lazy.
I wish. I like, that's the one where I
was just like, man, I wish when I was a kid smoking weed, I was
like, man, this shit's great. I just, I was like, man, I'm
fucking, I just want to sit hereand lay.
And that's not what Mike wants to do.
Mike wants to do shit. He wants to be fucking, you
know, sporadic and stuff. So that led me to different
things. See, if you did it at the right
time of your youth, though, you'd find things to go do so

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that you could sneak off and do it.
So you you like do activities like, oh, we can go over here.
And I'm not going to get into the I'm not going to get into
the like, like I said, there's some things I don't talk about,
but I was exposed to prescription pain pills at very,
very young age. So like I said, just the
dumbest, you guys know the fuck family.

(01:12:29):
I agree. The dumbest, the dumbest things.
And they be like, well, you know, this will probably help.
And then like, are you a moron? Good, good intentions, I guess,
which is once again, when I talkabout this person, I say that
they did the best they can with the fucking shit that they went
through and the knowledge that they had.
But it's just bro, I probably I probably smoked weed for the

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first time 9 or 10. Yeah, me too.
And then I was just like, it's just not my cup of tea.
The funniest shit was I was like10 and I went through this like
cigar thing. I wouldn't inhale them or
nothing like that, but you didn't have to.
So I was like, oh, that's cool. And then not long after that was

(01:13:12):
like, you know, prescription pain medication and shit back
when it was cheap. Listen, I did that's that's
crazy St. drug prices. Fuck fentanyl too.
Fentanyl is another reason why Iwas just like, I'm not no, I
don't want to die like feel goodor die.
That's why I'm a very self awaredrug addict.

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But that's when you know, and then older I started getting to
a like a little bit of harder stuff.
But thank God that that didn't last.
That lasted less than a year. And like I said, I think the
only things I've never tried is crack, meth and heroin.
I mean because. I knew I was like, man, like

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this stuff, like I feel like with the Tramadol, I got to like
a real fucking struggle with it.Everything else, like I'm gonna
tell you that that was the hardest one by far out of raw
second, out of everything that I've ever fucking put down in my
life. Those were like the top two.
That fucking, that tramadol shit, bro, Cuz it's synthetic.

(01:14:16):
So then not only are you going through opiate withdrawal
because it's a, a synthetic opiate, but then it also has
like the psychological factors too.
And now there's all the shit coming about tramadol, how
you're like more likely to have Alzheimer's, taking it
regularly, not at like, you know, 350 milligrams.
That's like the cut off before you get into the high risk of

(01:14:39):
the granular seizures. And then us being like, well, we
could probably get past that by like, you know, just like doing
a gabapentin, which by the way, got hit by itself terrible.
It's like the worst part about being drunk with none of like
the Hey guys, that was I was like without without this other
guy, I wouldn't even hang out with you.
That was just a fucked one. But I don't know, I don't know

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where I was at before I started that.
I think I was trying to make a point but.
I think the the way that I avoided drugs as a.
Oh, it was the weed thing. Yeah.
It was like, so I have throughout my whole youth was
just like one thing that's weirdand I have no fucking clue why.

(01:15:22):
It makes me super fucking nauseous too.
Like to the point I want to throw up.
Oh, really? Yeah.
And I it's always. Done in all forms, like every
singular, every singular. 1 and I was just like.
You've tried eating it too and you still feel that way, no?
I've never tried eating it. So that's the weird thing is it

(01:15:43):
definitely effects you in different ways.
We've been doing the THC drinks that are now legal and but yeah,
like did that do that to you when you drank it?
No, I'm just always, I'm always fucking scared to like, fuck
around with those. I mean, we drank it when we went
to the yeah. But like if I'm like, you know,
by myself and I drink a whole 1 and then I'm like ah, fuck.
And then I drink another one andthen I'm around, you know,

(01:16:05):
nobody that understands that I'mtoo high.
You know what I'm saying? What's so fucking funny, bro?
I had to go to the hospital one time because I panic attacked
off weed, off weed. I smoked it.
I was like, I forgot what I was trying to do.
I think it was like for like pain or some shit and to, to get
sleep. That's what the fuck it was to
get sleep. The dorkiest fucking thing.

(01:16:26):
But I remember one night like I had hit it and I was like, it's
just, I'm not getting like I'm trying to go to bed or no, no,
no, this was like during the day.
And I was just like having a fucking just like a shit day.
So I was like, I'm gonna do it. And then I did way too much
because I had bought like a justlike a clean bong and shit like
that. And I did 2 like four hits of
it, which was way more than I was smoking at that point.

(01:16:47):
And like, I'm, I'm like really high and I start to have a panic
attack and my heart's beating out of my chest.
And it's so fucking stupid too, because I'm just like, man, I'm
really good at like fighting offpanic attacks.
But it's like, hi, Mike's like, no, we're probably dying, dude.
And I was like, no, we're not. We go through this all the time,
bro. We have panic attacks like it's
fucking cool. It's OK.
We're going to get through it. And it's like, Nah, heart's not

(01:17:07):
going to stop. So my heart was beating like
that for an hour. I'm talking about beating so
hard and fast, like feeling in my ears.
I'm just like, you know what, I'm going to make sure I'm going
to go into cardiac arrest. So I go to the, I go to the
emergency room and she was like,has anything happened?
I was like, yeah, I smoked a bunch of weed and I'm pretty
sure it's causing a panic attack.
She was like, you know how many people just don't fucking start
with that information. I was like, wow, that's the,

(01:17:29):
that's what happened. So I want to like if I'm dying,
not die. And that's why I tell people
like, if you go to the hospital,bro, doctor, just tell them.
They don't care. Yeah, tell them what you go
through. Tell them if you're sexually
active or if you fucking if you inject meth.
Look I mean some people might not tell for you know because
they want drugs. But if you are not going to the
like the doctor to seek drugs, just tell them what you got

(01:17:52):
going on. So a funny story about that we I
was at work and my wife calls and she says I fell and hit my
jaw and like I was like are you OK?
She's like no. And then I get home and she had
fallen up our brick steps and smacked her jaw on the brick
steps and she has the issue where she passes out.

(01:18:14):
Well, I get her almost all the way to the hospital.
It's like a 15 minute drive. I get her almost all the way the
hospital and she passes out. So like I'm sitting there
holding her up parking and then I have to like firemen carry her
into the hospital. And then once we get in there,
like she can't talk cuz her jaw is like now swelling and so she

(01:18:35):
can't talk. And I'm trying to convey like I
was at work, she fell and hit her, her face on the steps.
They're like, no, no, no, she needs to tell us.
And I'm like, she fucking hit her jaw like they think that I.
Oh, what is your is your name Stamps.
You must be stamps. And then and then they were like
she needed something for the pain and they wouldn't give her
anything for the pain. I guess it's because we're all

(01:18:57):
tattooed and look like roughnecks or something.
Like we were just fishing for fucking painkillers but they
would like. She literally sat in the
emergency room for like 2 hours before they gave her a Tylenol.
It's not actually because you'retattooed.
It's because, listen, conspiracytheorist Mike Opiates, they were
fucking readily available. And it's so crazy.
As soon as fentanyl hit the streets, they were like, we need

(01:19:19):
to fucking, we need to get all the prescription painkillers off
the market. So we just got this fentanyl out
there that actually kills people.
Yeah the craziest thing though is they wouldn't even give her a
fucking Tylenol. Like they didn't give her
anything. Nothing for the pain, not
anything. Didn't inject her with morphine,
didn't fucking give her anythingfor like 2 hours.
Serving like they need her to tell you.
Tell us the story about how you beat her.

(01:19:41):
Yeah. Pretty much.
And I was just like, this is fucking ridiculous.
Like she is literally like she ended up, it didn't break
anything, but it like dislocatedher jaw and like it was just
gonna like settle back into place eventually but it was just
wild because they would not helpher at all.
Would she talk to you like Ted and Ted to like I'm a little bit
fucked up you still love me? Yeah, pretty much.

(01:20:02):
Like, I mean, she gonna she gonna wear it all at all.
When she got better, did you ever like say like walk much?
Because as soon as like something happens in our
household, whoever gets hurt like everybody else is going to
be like. She was wearing slides with
socks like and like was rushing to get an order out.
She used to make like props for beauty pageants and like she was

(01:20:24):
rushing back and forth like frominside to out in the garage and
just like hit the step, but likedidn't fully get it.
So the the slide fell off and then she went and faced right
into the. Luckily she didn't like hit
teeth or anything. Listen, it is, it is low key
good that they did just assume that you were abusive, but they

(01:20:44):
need to do that both ways. Like a guy comes in like real
fucked up bruises on his face. They need to be like, we need
him to tell the story. That is a good thing.
Spousal abuse, that's another fucking problem.
Maybe we'll have a special on that one day.
I have to beat my wife first so I get like experience.
Well, she does that to you. So like I mean.
She wants stabbed me with a nailfile.
Now listen, she once stabbed me with a knife too.

(01:21:06):
So brother like, and I don't know if any other guy likes to
do this, but sometimes, very, very rarely, and I'm not done it
in a while. I like to make her real mad,
just like being goofy, real mad,like fucking tickling her and
shit like that and just. Irritate the hell.
Out of her, yeah. Like she'll be sitting on the
couch. I'll just come by and just like

(01:21:26):
pull her off the couch and her like butt'll hit the ground.
She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm fucking no, stop
me, huh? And I'm fucking sit there and
touch your pad. Just I don't know.
And then we'll like start like like I'm play fighting.
She is very much so fighting. Yeah, like I said, she stabbed
with a little nail files. Oh, you feel better now?
She was like, I will I want to kill you so bad.

(01:21:47):
And I'm just like, yeah, I know you do, but you can't because
then you go, then you go to jailfor murder.
So all you can do is divorce me.So you going to divorce me?
I'm glad she didn't divorce me because that was some that was
some pretty dumb shit. But listen, guys, I think this
is this has been a very great this has been a very special
Mike and Dylan hate hate drama special.
I'm not going to push any of theshit.

(01:22:07):
I'm not going to tell you where to submit.
I'm just going to say, hey, if you were feeling some type of
way, please fucking talk to somebody because I guarantee you
they would rather talk to you than talk at your funeral.
I know that's like a fucking Facebook post, all right?
One of the crazy things is you can talk to ChatGPT like, I
mean, you can't. And that, yeah, if that bare
minimum, if you're afraid to talk to somebody, talk to Chat
me GPT. ChatGPT, do you know?

(01:22:31):
What that spell or what that like that's actually French,
even though that's not French. It's like the cat shit or
something like that. Is it really something,
something weird like that? Yeah.
This is why we should never let like nerds make shit.
Like I don't know that they meant to.
Do it like the mean people like the meme, not mean.

(01:22:51):
We always thought like the rich people.
Like when you were in school is like this real bookworm kid and
he was like, that's going to be the guy.
And it's like, and I think it's that guy over there who's like
just like dumb, but he's like smart, but he's just like dumb
and just doing the dumbest shit you ever seen.
Like that's going to be the guy.Those guys we made fucking or
they made it themselves because they're fucking wickedly smart.
And the public education, we need to do a special on that

(01:23:14):
too. How everybody's fucking
different, man. Just because you're not a God
damn good at memorizing fucking math problems, there's other
things you could be amazing at. But once again, talk to
somebody. And thank you for listening.
And and when life feels like toomuch and and you can't go any
farther, just remember taking that little step might be the

(01:23:36):
fucking thing that you need to get that spark.
And I love you guys and we will see you next time.
Later.

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