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June 30, 2025 81 mins

Mike and Dylan tackle listener problems with brutally honest advice from two admittedly unqualified but hilarious hosts.

Tired of perfect life coaches? Get real talk about family drama, workplace disasters, fake personas, and the struggles of pretending to be someone you're not.

This episode covers a 17-year-old's family conflict over trade school vs college, a beer enthusiast trapped in his fake expertise, workplace survival tactics, and Mike's conspiracy theories about The Beatles. Plus relationship advice, survival stories involving Mike's father-in-law's multiple near-death experiences, and why guys' group chats are nothing like what your girlfriend thinks they are.

Timestamps:

  • 00:00:00 Intro & Show Banter
  • 00:03:17 Why We've Never Explained Our "Qualifications"
  • 00:06:44 Mike's Father-in-Law's Death & Resurrection Stories
  • 00:19:02 Terrible Advice Submissions Examples
  • 00:22:47 17-Year-Old's Trade School vs College Family Drama
  • 00:29:51 The Beer Guy Identity Crisis Story
  • 00:37:53 Pizza Preferences & Regional Food Debates
  • 00:46:13 "I Am a Fraud" - Craft Beer Imposter Syndrome
  • 00:59:16 Music Taste Arguments: Beatles vs Everything Else
  • 01:17:25 Rap Battle Analysis & Hip Hop Hot Takes


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(00:00):
Bear Nimble Bow down. Mike and Dylan hate drama, but
the Bow Wow Oh my God are we rolling?
Rolling. Dylan, do you know what we have
never done for Mike and Dylan Hate.
Hate. Drama.
What the fuck are you doing bro?Well, you you were asking me
what we hadn't done and then I was going to answer the
question. So I was listening to your

(00:20):
question and then you threw thatintro.
And still did the hate pause. I looked at you man, and I felt
like an eternity. You ever you ever like asked a
girl a question that you really liked and you thought she was
really pretty, no homo. And then you just waited.
How's that a no homo? That is right.
Yeah, That's not look. Honestly, we're just off this

(00:40):
morning. What do you mean?
I miss the hate. And then you're saying no homo
to talking to a girl. No, no, no, no, no.
Because I was putting that in the context of what just
happened between us. Oh, yeah.
And then you like, you ask a bigquestion or you send a text
message and then you see the. The three dots.
The three dots and they disappear and then they come

(01:01):
back again and they disappear and then they come back again
and they disappear. That's what that felt like.
That's what that felt like. So do you know what we have
never done? What we have never told people
why we are going to given advice?
No, we have not. We've never done that.
Like our qualifications. Did I say that right
Qualifications. Yeah, it sound wrong when I say,

(01:22):
you know, when you type out a word, Yeah, it fucking looks
wrong. It's.
Worse when I write it down by hand.
When I handwrite things, every single word looks misspelled.
If I put it in all caps it lookswrong no matter what.
I don't know why I just I'm likethat is not how talk is spelled.
I write in all caps because of architecture.
So back in when I was doing architecture, you do
architecture. I don't know what architectures

(01:44):
do, but I mean, getting advice from us, it's kind of like, you
know, advice for me is essentially like you live in a
trailer park and you ran out of sugar so you got to go to your
next door neighbor cuz you know,he has a lot of sugar.
And then while you're there, youjust like, asked him a very
important question about life. Does that happen a lot in the

(02:07):
trailer park? I don't, I don't know.
I mean, I, I remember, you know,getting sugar.
Like I said, we never actually, you would think, was it.
Sugar, sugar, or just regular sugar?
Regular sugar. Regular sugar man look in poor
communities, we're like actual community.
And then we argue a lot, we fight outside.

(02:27):
It's weird. Oh, that's like us.
Yeah, but like, we, we fucking, we're like an actual community.
I don't know. I was looking up things about
podcasts because, you know, we always have to think about like
growing and growth and stuff like that.
And one of the things someone was saying is why, why, why

(02:47):
should people listen to you? I'm like, I don't know, I could
make, I could list off reasons they shouldn't listen to us,
but. I always think that's funny
though, because like, you can't really think of that for your
audience. Like, I mean, all the people
that listen to us, they're listening for multiple different
reasons. They're not actually wanting our
advice on topics. I think they do.

(03:09):
I think they need it. I think they like to laugh at
our advice. I think they're like, man, that
fat, obviously mentally struggling dude right there is
he's got the key right there to to solve my relationship.
Problem you rushed me into this and I forgot to lint roll my
shirt. I haven't lint rolled either,
but I did not forget. I just accustomed to the

(03:31):
audience now so they could see acouple little hairs on there.
I'm fine with that. When you leave it here, I go
home to my dogs and cats and stuff.
Well, not dogs anymore, just cats.
Way to fucking sad that up. It's like me going, yeah, I go
home to father in lawless house,which I mean, he survived, bro.

(03:51):
He's up, he's talking now he's in, he's in a rehabilitation.
Place everybody knows what endedup happening because it wasn't
just we talked about. One episode, so the
father-in-law thing, he had gotten gallbladder surgery and
for some reason on my middle son's birthday or my youngest

(04:14):
son's birthday, it has started bleeding.
He had started like bleed, like he was pooping out blood and
stuff like that. And I was making him real
nervous. So that night he goes to the
hospital and they're like, well,nothing's wrong with your
brother, Go, go home. Look, you don't, you don't need
to be here. So he comes home that night and
he's still like real worried. So he ends up going back.
So the next day he gets up to use the bathroom, he sees it's

(04:38):
all blood, and then he immediately drops dead with a
heart attack. In the hospital.
In the hospital, which I mean, best place to have a heart
attack, I would say like me, I know I'm, I'm going to have a
heart attack like in my car in the middle of a desert or
somewhere. It's not going to be a good
place to have a heart attack. So they do CPR for 12 minutes.
They get his pulse back. Well, he gets transferred to

(05:01):
another hospital. Come to find out the other
hospital before had put some kind of thing in his leg.
It was like I don't know if it was like IV or something like
that, but it had essentially cutoff the blood circulation in his
leg. All the muscles and shit in his
leg were white from not having any blood to it.
So they thought they were going to have to implicate his leg
too. Like it was just like and he had

(05:22):
he had not came to or anything like that.
So they work on his leg and thenthey do surgery on his stomach
again. Well, it's like 3 or 4 days
later, he's like starting to wake up.
He's not lucid, but he's like looking around and shit like
that. Well, what the doctors did not
know, and I don't know how because you're in a hospital,

(05:42):
but he had complete pneumonia inboth lungs.
So once again dies, just flat lines again out of nowhere.
So they do CPR to like they workto bring him back for like 20
minutes this time by getting a pulse back.
It's going away and they get them back and I'm told this and

(06:06):
I'm like, bro, you got to pick and.
Keep coming and going. Yeah, you got to pick one.
Stop. Stop playing with us like this.
Like, come on, man, be a man. You either die or you're not
dying. Now, unfortunately, my
father-in-law is like my middle son's favorite person on earth.
So I am like, you know, I say unfortunately because, you know,
you want him to be a dad ass boy, but it's not it's not it's
not like that. He loves his pawpaw, so which

(06:30):
me, I told him I was like, you don't update him at all about
anything that has happened. He talked to him yesterday.
It's the first time he's talked to him since everything happened
in May. Yeah.
Yeah. So after that, yeah.
I just was like, you know, I don't, I don't.
I had to talk with him like, youknow, I don't think he's going
to make it. And we had a really good father

(06:50):
son moment, but then he made it.So.
I mean, yeah, because I was justlike, well, he's back now.
He's like regularly talking. And now like I said, once he
does so many real like that, he has a trache and I guess with a
tracheape, just like take it outbecause you'll have a big gaping
hole in your neck. So they'll have to put like a
smaller tracheon and kind of like, what do they call it when

(07:11):
you're when you gauge your ear? Yeah, so they're trying to D
gauge it so they just don't leave a big hole in the start.
But after that, I guess we'll beable to come home.
A funny joke that me and my middle son have though, is
because I was like, you know, Papa died technically and came
back to life. So, you know, that makes him,
he's like what? I'm like a zombie.

(07:32):
So we make it, we make like zombie pawpaw jokes right now,
which he's 9. So that's like in his realm of
joking around. And my daughter then brings up,
well, he died twice. So if a zombie dies and then
comes back to life, what is that?
I was like, either you're a person again or that zombie
squared. So we don't know.
We're not going to get too deep into the lore of that.

(07:53):
Well, you'll have to ask him about it because, like, you
know, he's died twice, so he, heknows what's going on.
But yeah, it's just, it's a wildthing for, I don't know, man, I
know me. Just my luck, it's going to be
something small and I'm just going to da da.
That's a good thing though. Like it's just be gone.
Bro done, bro. You like you telling me, man?

(08:15):
You talk about I ain't got to worry about nothing.
Yeah, that's why people were like, man, I just don't.
I can't see why they did it. Have you bitch?
Have you looked around like thisshit is not sunshine and
rainbows? You telling me I ain't got to
worry about bills, I ain't got to worry about the cost of
living. I ain't got to worry about what
people's thinking. I ain't got to worry about, you
know, how hot it is outside. Bitch.

(08:36):
If somebody put their own life because it was like, man, it's
like 101° outside, 98% humidity.If they put that on suicide
note, I'd be like logical reason, logical reason.
Look, they didn't want to deal with this heat no more.
It's rough. It's rough out here, man.
Just find a shady tree, wait it out, go hop in a pond.

(08:56):
I don't know ponds. So you're a late guy but not a
pond guy? Fuck no.
Yeah, I'm a late guy, not a pond.
Guy, we had a pond in my front yard.
So I grew up swimming in the pond.
But also it's like whether it's like a pond in a field that
nobody's swam in or like there'slike kind of a swimming area.
Cuz once people get in there andlike move their feet around it,

(09:19):
it's not like the silty mud for like a foot of it.
But yeah, a regular pond maybe might might not jump.
You sink. Yeah, you sink.
Kneecap into a fucking mud and. Leeches just all up in the You
ever had a Leech on you? Yeah, no, I'm not really.
Yeah. It's about the lion.
Say I did. I don't know why.
We used to walk up and down the Creek beds because I lived out
in the sticks up in New York. And so like all the fields,

(09:41):
there'd just be a Creek running through somewhere in the fields.
And so that's where we'd like sneak back into the woods and
like start fires and act like wewere survivalists and stuff.
And I'd probably say 20 or 30 times walking up and down the
Creek beds or swimming in ponds,like I'd come out and there just
be like black things all over mylegs and.
How do you get them off? You just pull them off.

(10:01):
But technically I think you're not supposed to pull them off.
You're supposed to try and convince them because otherwise
some of their mouth parts can stay in you.
But. It's always say about ticks.
As long as they don't like, as long as they're not fully
attached, you can get them off alot of times like you'll notice.
You'll get a lot of freshwater snails up there.
I mean, I don't really remember the snails.
I remember we called them lampreys.
They were like about 12 inches long and they they'd stick to

(10:23):
the rocks. I know something else when
that's 12 inches long. What?
I don't. My Dick if you triple it?
My Dick if you tripled it. Like Subway sub.
Yeah, yeah. Subway sandwich.
But yeah, these lampreys, they would only come like every like
five to seven years. But when they when they like,
when you'd see them, it was justlike literally all over the
rocks and the Creek. And so like it would just looked

(10:46):
like almost like seaweed. But they were living animals.
One of my buddies was a Dick andhe'd take them out and throw
them against the wall and shit. And I was like, why do you got
to be sadistic? About what the fuck?
Yeah, like why? Like you were exhibiting signs
of a serial killer right now, bud.
Have you seen the the mayflies we get?
Oh yeah. One time, Like one time a year.
I was up in New York one time and it literally looked like

(11:07):
just like fog everywhere. Like the, it looked like, you
know, Stranger Things or like a scary Movie where it's just like
you look off in the distance andit's just like this moving like
fog. And it's like, what the fuck is
that? Bro I would hate it because I
don't know the frequency to which it happens.
I'm not a scientist, I don't look it up.
I just know it always happens when I'm going to do shit and I

(11:28):
need gas. So I have to like park.
I had to just get out in this like wave of bugs.
You can't see anything. You're just like reach for a gas
handle. You open the gas tank, There's
bugs just flying in it, bugs flying everywhere.
And they're not small. No, like they're, they're a
decent size. And the worst part is, is like
as you're walking, you're walking on a floor made of bugs.

(11:49):
Yeah, because they're all dying off.
And I'm just like, what? What is y'all's purpose?
Man well and I think they only they don't even have like mouths
or anything they don't eat like they literally after they go
into their final form like they.This is my.
Final four, they breed and then they're done.
But why? Like why?
It's just you don't have a reason bro just stop.

(12:10):
I mean, that's like the cicadas,but there's like, you know, five
year, seven-year, 11 year, like all these different cicadas.
Like cicadas way different because that was just scary.
Last year there was like a ton. It must have been one of because
like everywhere around our house, like underneath our porch
and up all the trees, there was just like exoskeletons where
they came out as. All over the road.

(12:31):
I've seen like two or three already this year.
And then you just like go outside on the back porch and
smoke a cigarette and you just get hit in the cheek with one or
they'll like fucking latch onto your shoulder, blah.
All what I think the scariest. Listen, we're in Lexington, NC,
so it's a little bit country outhere.
Like there's a good amount of forest area.

(12:51):
It's not like us. It's definitely not like a city.
So we get insects that you don'tnormally get in the city.
We get a lot of like rattlesnakes and shit like that
too. Oh, rattlesnakes an insect.
A rattlesnakes. An insect.
Well, I'm just saying we get like a lot of different things
that this like the cities I've. Never seen a rattlesnake here.
I've never seen one. I've been here for 13 years,

(13:11):
never seen a rattle. I think they're more up towards
the mountains. What do you mean?
The rattlesnakes. No, we got there's.
We had a big problem of them in Lexington.
That's why you can't ever find mothballs.
But I guess it's out more towards the flat area because I
know the fucking. That's why when you go to like
Family Dollar and shit, you can't find mothballs because the

(13:32):
farmers be buying them all up and shit.
Or maybe all the old people justkeep buying them for their
clothes. No, I know, I know.
We do have a decent, like a decent amount of them because
they put up warning signs out ofFinch Park.
Really. Yeah.
I've never seen one. Really.
Have you ever walked the trails there?
Yeah, maybe. I think it's Finch Park.
I don't know, maybe I'm tripping, bro.

(13:53):
I know that they're like in the mountains, like the rattlesnakes
definitely are up in the mountains, right?
But I know that they can be around here, but I think their
habitats more. We got one.
We have a black snake at home. Yeah, those are great.
Yeah, he lives right underneath the.
You see how the fucking drivewayis?
It's just a a drop down a Cliff.That's my driveway.

(14:14):
It just drops down. I've never pulled into it.
So at the bottom part, it's likestarting to come up.
So he lives under there and we always see him like he'll
crossover and go to the other side.
We're like, oh, is that the one from the, from the pitcher?
Yeah, we, yeah, we see him all the time.
And my daughter was like, why don't you do something about
him? I was like, cuz he's doing
something about the scary ones. Like that's why you want him

(14:36):
there, cuz you don't want to come outside.
And then you just get because wekilled a baby copperhead a
couple couple weeks ago. You know it's technically
illegal to kill snakes. Well, we did.
Unless. You're in in.
We thought immediate danger, we thought about killing it and but
we didn't do it. So we definitely did not do
that. But anyways, we were like, you

(14:59):
know, guys like that gets rid ofthose, those scary ones.
Well, and they take care of miceand all kinds of other.
Pests. Let me tell you, the problem on
my back porch right now is fucking Hercules beetles.
Those things are awesome. They are the scariest looking
motherfuckers ever and they're humongous like that is imagine

(15:20):
God damn it I. Think I always called them
gladiators but like. Listen, I am not a fan of
insects and people will be like,how are you from the country?
You know, I don't know about cars.
I'm not a fan of insects. I don't we.
Don't have a bad. Yeah, I'm hot, but imagine going
out at 1:00 in the morning, you're sitting on the back
porch, you know you're trying toenjoy it.
And then you look down by your foot and there's just like a

(15:42):
monster fucking beetle with shit, just like sticking off of
it because I like, we get those,and then what are they called?
Stag beetles. The ones where it's not the one
in the the big one in the middle, it's the one on the side
and then fucking shit to like branch off in a bro No and camel
crickets. Fuck a camel cricket.
Yeah, those ones are kind of creepy looking.

(16:03):
Yeah, cuz all they are is just hopping spiders.
I can't fuck bro. I can't fucking stand.
I hate spiders. And I used to not be afraid of
spy. Well, not I'm not saying afraid
of spiders. I'm just like, because one day I
was walking to the card shop when I lived in High Point.
I think I was like 17 years old and this spider, I guess like a

(16:23):
wolf spider walks out onto the road.
So I'm just like playing around.I do like this 360 hop in the
air and stomp on it and a billion yeah, little babies came
off of it. And I don't know why, but like
the babies like start coming offand I'm like and I feel like I'm
all pass out and I'm like walking down the road and I'm
like, I don't I don't feel so good after seeing that.
I don't know what the fuck happened.

(16:44):
But ever since then I don't fuckwith spiders.
See, I was, I was joking about or like I was talking about my
friend throwing the lampreys against the the wall and killing
them and you're just smashing spiders.
That ain't fucking with you at all.
Well, this is before I knew whatgood spiders do.
Well, that's the crazy thing with the wolf spiders though,
because they don't look too crazy.
Like, I mean, they they look like a pretty big spider on
their own. But then when they do have the

(17:06):
babies on the back, it's like the biggest fucking spider I've
ever seen. And that was the first time that
I realized because I was like, that thing's huge.
Like what kind of spider is? And I look down on it and like
everything on its butt was just like moving around.
And that was all the babies. Just like hitching a ride on
mom. That's well, look, I can't stand
it. Imagine being in Australia with

(17:26):
them big Huntsman spiders and Australians.
Once you talk about like a Huntsman spider, they'll be
like, oh mate, they ain't fucking leave them babies alone.
They ain't hurting nobody. But look at it though, bro, Look
at it. Imagine just like waking up in
bed. That bitch is just right on the
covers that I'm dead. I'm having a heart attack.
Fuck Australia. They have those.

(17:47):
They have fuck. What is the it's the most
poisonous spider. It's like the fucking carpet.
Something I'm fucking know. Black funnel spider or some
shit? Like that, Yeah, I think it's
the funnel. Yeah but this motherfucker like
he fucking arches his back up cuz he's like super fucking
aggressive too. So he's like the most aggressive
spider. Also, yeah, they have that the

(18:07):
fucking inland tie pan, which is1, which doesn't kill anybody
cuz he's off like where there's no humans.
So when he does see humans, he doesn't give a fuck because he's
not learned to like be afraid ofus.
And they're just so secluded. They don't kill nobody.
But they have like the the firstdeadliest, third deadliest, 4th
deadliest fucking snake, the first or second deadliest spot.

(18:27):
I'm just like no. And saltwater crocodiles.
Saltwater crocodile. Imagine just not being able to
get into a body of water, which that's northern Australia.
I know southern Australia doesn't have crocodiles.
I'm not. I know.
I don't give a fuck because whatif, bro, what if a crocodile is
like, you know what, too hot here.
I'm just going to, yeah, I'm just going to go South.

(18:48):
You don't know how far South them bitches are going to go.
Well, that, that was the wild thing.
When I go to the beach, like I never think.
But like, technically in all of like the wetlands surrounding
the beach, there's alligators. Like yeah bro.
Oh yeah. Fuck yes.
But like, I never go to that part because like when I go to
the beach, I go to the beach. Besides, like I want to go.
To the like the the inlets and stuff like that, but there's

(19:08):
like a shit ton of alligators. Besides Florida, South Carolina
has the most alligator deaths. That's fucked.
So do you want to get into this advice that people asked us that
didn't didn't make the original cut?
These are like advices, just we have some bad submissions for

(19:29):
you guys. So I want to show you an example
of what we think a bad submission is.
That's kind of hard to do on thepodcast.
Dear Mike and Dylan, my husband lied to me.
OK, about what? Don't know.
Don't I kill him? Like, what the fuck?
Like you got to fucking. You got to put them down.

(19:50):
What did he lie to you about? Did he lie to you?
I mean, there also is divorce. Right.
Yeah. Did he lie to you about saying
you look pretty in a dress? Did he lie to you about having
sex with the family dog? Like in one instance you
poisonous coffee, in other instance you go jogging?
Like what? I don't know what advice to give
you. All right.
You know, there was a really fucked up song back in the early

(20:11):
days of like downloading music that was American Pie, but it
was talking about football like fucking your dog.
And I was, I was like, this is areally fucked up song.
It was funny as being like a 1415 year old, like hearing
funny songs for the first time, but it was like a super fucked
up song. The other, it was like 2 days

(20:33):
ago I was writing a song becauseI'd be doing this sometimes, all
right? I'd be.
It's obviously a comedy song, but it's about pop Tarts.
But it's a Christian song because the intro of it is like
me waking up to make some pastries, like I'm making
pastries for the day. But then it goes into like, you
know the course where it's like,Jesus, you are so good, like,

(20:55):
and you think it's about Jesus, but he's talking about the
pastries that he was making and.I was like saying Jesus.
Yeah, like so so you would just think it's a guy like waking up
and he's like, it's a beautiful morning.
And then he's talking about likehow good God is, but he's really
talking about how good the pastries are.
And it was just, it was really hard for me to get through like
the second verse right before the course.
So I was just like my give up. You come back to it.

(21:16):
I'll come back to it and then wehave one about the supervisor
and we're going to write that one through half of it where the
guy, he goes through like, I don't know, he's worked a job
for like 11 years. And then his boss like always
talk shit to him. So he punches and always ends
with him like punching the supervisor in the face.
And then the next one he goes and works for, works at a coffee

(21:39):
shop and you're like and then some blue haired little and like
it starts like talking down to him.
So every course is, I don't know, man, we got to do
something. Yeah, now we can do that.
We really just got to push this baby up the hill and get.
Out of this baby so hard. It's hard to push up the hill.
Dear Mike and Dylan, I hate my job and my boss is terrible, but

(22:00):
I need the money. I've been here for two years and
it's getting worse. Take a sawed off shotgun and
commit a mass atrocity at your workplace.
Don't do that. Take out your supervisor and
then everybody that likes the supervisor or just doesn't like
you or that you have a crush on and that you cannot talk to

(22:20):
because you think they're out ofyour league.
Can we just do like nunchucks orsomething?
Like so that it's not no no if Iif I don't have any details, I'm
giving you the worst advice. Well, you do that anyway.
Yes, but that's why see, I have to give you the worst advice and
I. Mean there is always quit.
We have one about their roommates.

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Really nasty. How do they deal with it?
Move out. Yeah.
Have you told them to stop beingnasty?
When people when we get advice we need like descriptions
because you guys have heard me and Dylan even with descriptions
where confused and. Mike reads like 4 layers deep

(23:01):
into it too. Like he's like.
Bro, I don't know why. Yeah, it's just like when they
say it right here, my nipples become hard and I start to sense
that they're having maybe like some financial troubles.
I don't know what the fuck happens.
It's like that goofy as shit andI just want to get off of it but
I can't. It's like my brain latches on to
it and I'm just like I can. I can sense the pain in their

(23:22):
typing. I don't know.
Did you see how he said his wifewas pretty instead of beautiful
like? What is that like?
What is that? Is he?
Cheating on her? Or something like, so I fucked
up all right and I watched a couple of the am I the assholes
from like different people who do we do not do it in the
nowhere near the ballpark that they do it at.
I don't know, 'cause I, I think I've watched a couple, but like

(23:45):
it's, but most of the ones that I've seen were like YouTube
videos where it's like zooming, zooming, zooming and like.
Just, wow. This husband's, like, really
fucking crazy. Well, what's going on YouTube?
Welcome back to another installment of Mike and Dylan.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Drama, drama, drama, drama.
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(24:07):
It was a So without further ado.What those were like.
No, no, no, no, no. I was just doing the whole
fucking. But what?
What are you saying that they dolike?
So like, they're just like sitting there.
And then you have one that readsyeah, OK.
And then they read and they'll pause and the other person will
be like, Oh my God, who doesn't hate that?
Oh, I. So you mean on the other ones

(24:28):
they actually let the other person talk?
No, no, no, no. It's not really like that.
It's like it's like in, in, in the, like in between reading the
story, like who? Who doesn't hate that?
And like they're like hyping theother person up.
Yeah. It almost feels like like, wow,
that is correct. Like I just like hyping up the
story. And then when they get in like

(24:50):
after that, like they talk aboutit, to which I think it's like,
look, some of it was out of touch, some of it was in touch.
I'm not going to say who was outof touch, who was in touch, but
fucking, I don't care. I just know when we're like,
bro, that guy's gonna fucking stab somebody in the neck one
day. It's a lot different than how
everybody else does it. We do it better.

(25:13):
What? But what if?
What if I'm just saying, all right, we're at the ceiling.
This is as big as it ever gets. Yeah.
You ever thought about that? Like we have found all the
people that are just like. I can listen to these two idiots
talk for right I. Do them on the cusp of suicide.
I can deal with this. I mean, if these are our people,
these are our people. What we could do though, I feel

(25:37):
like if if we're at like the peak where we have, you know,
2000 listeners on Spotify, 1000 listeners on Apple podcast, 1000
listeners on YouTube, we then have to start a militia, OK,
Because there's a look, you can have two hot takes with their
million file, OK. Oh, wow, we have 4000.

(25:59):
Yeah, that own guns. Like listen, come on.
The other ones, they are very like political towards a certain
area of people that don't believe in owning guns.
And that's why I listen. I could never be too Democrat
because I don't want to get intolike a political war and be on

(26:20):
the side that doesn't believe inhaving guns.
You know what I'm saying? So I can never get too far into
it because I got to, I got to fuck with the gun.
The people that have the guns too, you know?
Stay right in the middle. No, if you stay right in the
middle, you get shot by both sides.
Like that's what happened. I.
Thought the one side didn't haveguns.
Well, you get shot with. Well, see the crazy thing is, is
if you go far enough left, they are.
They're back in the guns. Yeah, they're back in the guns

(26:42):
and, and bringing them. Not just fucking with you,
bringing them in the schools. Look, Eminem did a joke on them
too. Yeah, No, I, I think it's a,
it's, I think being too far in either which direction in our
takes is the problem. Like if we're just like.
Maybe do that. But when you look at it, what

(27:04):
podcast is there that's just like, Nah, we don't really give
a fuck, you know what I'm saying?
You fuck with everybody. It's not that you don't like.
Oh my God, Could you imagine someone who's just like, I don't
like anybody on this side or this side?
I was like, So what do you got like 6 friends?
Yeah. Like I, I disavowed everybody
that has a political stance. So who do you talk to?

(27:26):
This teddy bear? Like this teddy bear had a wig
on his name. Susie.
Hey, Susie, what do you like? I like to do what everybody
likes, you know? I like to do what nobody likes
to do. I don't fucking know, man.
So you got more of those shitty takes or I.
Don't know, I like talking too. Bro I know tell a Dylan story.

(27:46):
My brother borrowed $500.00 for me 6-6 months ago and keeps
making excuses about paying me back.
He has money for other stuff though.
Have you met a brother like that's that's a sibling for you?
I mean, that's a good one, but it's like.
A little more detail. Yeah, like, well, how big's his
Dick, bro? Like we got a, we got a know
read. The last one.

(28:07):
I told my wife I was going to buy a new shotgun.
She said no, so I called her a bitch.
She's super pissed now. You got any advice for me?
What? Don't call her a bitch.
Yeah, just go buy the shotgun, wait until she wants to do her
own thing, like go somewhere with like some friends or
something where you know she's going to spend money.
And then when she goes buy the shotgun and then be like, God

(28:29):
damn baby, I don't know you. Why the fuck did you spend this
much money doing whatever? You just buy it and ask for
forgiveness. Right, Yeah, that's the easiest
way in marriage is just look, don't ask for permission, ask
for forgiveness. Yeah, it's not a solid strategy.
It'll definitely wear out over time, but it's definitely a
strategy. It's pretty solid.
It's the only way that I'm able to cuz if I would just be like,

(28:55):
you know how women have a way ofsaying no without saying no?
Yeah, like they just say every. Even when they say yes, you can
understand that it's a no. Yeah.
Anything other than a yes is automatically a no.
Like whatever, that's fine, I don't care.
We have a lot of bills to pay, but I guess if you really think

(29:16):
that it's a good idea. Then sure.
Yeah. I mean, if you value that more
than this, then go ahead. Like if it's not, Oh yeah, baby,
you can do that. I don't care.
Have fun. And Even so, there could be
like, Gee, I don't care, have fun.
I I just went to a guys night last night for the pool that I
go to and I asked my wife beforeI was like hey do you think I

(29:40):
should? Go That's a literal Sausage
Party Guys night. Yeah, it's just a bunch of guys
sitting around playing poker, but.
Man, imagine how just relaxing that is.
It was, it was nice. Like I didn't really know the
people beforehand. Like I've met them passingly,
but like it was kind of cool to just hang out.
But it was. And then we have another one
coming up on Saturday. And so like, I was just talking

(30:03):
to my wife and I was like, is itcool if I do both of these?
Like I don't have to. And she's like, yeah, that's
fine, that's fine. And then you're sitting there
like. Should I go?
Now twitching kind of a little bit, seen her nose kind of flare
when she did that. You have to read.
You have to then like think about the situation.
You got to fucking pull out a dry erase board and start doing
math of yeah, it's just, it's imagine if your friends did

(30:27):
that. Like you're just sitting there
playing poker with a guy and youjust like, he's like talking
about some X that he had. And you're like, man, that must
have been crazy, right? And he's just like, yeah, I
guess it was crazy. Yeah, well, I'm sorry.
Like, yeah, I guess you are sorry.
Guys. Just don't do that.
I saw a funny thing on Instagrambefore you came and it was

(30:50):
talking about how like a woman figured out guys and she's like,
I think I figured it out. Like when he says he's not
hungry, he's not hungry. Like I, I was like worried like
he doesn't like my cooking. Like he's mad at me.
He like all these things and he just wasn't hungry.
And then she says something elselike I'm tired.
And she's like, is he tired of me?
Is he tired of this relationship?
Is he tired? And no, he just needed some

(31:11):
rest. And it's like.
Yeah, it's pretty much like it'slike in The Office.
You're not going to know any of these characters, but Daryl
starts dating. Oh, fuck.
I'm look, Kelly. Yeah, I know.
I. Got to, I got to watch the
office completely over again. But then Kelly, like she asked

(31:32):
Daryl something and he's like, Idon't know, I don't give a fuck.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like being a guy.
And she was like, he just, he says what's on his mind.
Who does that? What kind of game is that?
It's like that's the that's the game guys play.
And you had like the whole. I don't know, man.
I'm just tired. Like tired of what?
Baby? I just worked 12 hours.
What do you mean tired of tired of standing, being awake?

(31:55):
Yeah, being awake. I'm exhausted.
Yeah. My knees feel like they're to
give out any second. No, there's no context, right?
No context though to be entire. Nothing's missing from that
statement. That statement was a whole
complete like package deal rightthere.
I am tired. Done.
I always thought like guys were fucking lying to when they were

(32:17):
talking about being in a relationship and then asking the
girl where they wanted to eat at.
Oh no. Cuz that was like a big joke
coming up and I like growing up and I was like, I bet it's not
really like that. Oh my God, it's worse.
It's fucking it's worse. And it oh, So what do you want
to eat? I don't care.
OK, so how about this? Nope.

(32:40):
Oh God, we just had an OK, so wedo care.
We have established that there is some care going on right now.
Well, and the big thing is is like you will say, I don't care.
And then she'll be like this place and you're like, OK,
that's the difference. Like when you say you don't.
But then you'll be like, OK, youlike, OK, is that good?
Like she'll then follow up and be like, yes, man, I can find
something to eat wherever you want to eat.

(33:01):
I can find something that I wantto eat.
I am the least picky person in the whole household.
So how about you guys fucking debate over if it's going to be
McDonald's or if it's going to be like Wendy's?
Because that's as far as they'refucking super.
Yeah, yeah, they're super extreme palates go.
They're fucking dynamic. Just just flavor requirements

(33:23):
take. If there's not something on the
table for dinner, my wife is like, we could have pizza and
I'm like, we've had it three times already this week.
Like we could have something under the pizza, Yeah.
That's why, man, four people they love.
I work well, it's in a box shop.Like you can throw a frozen
pizza in, 20 minutes later you got it.
You can order from Domino's. 20 minutes later, you got it.

(33:43):
High take frozen pizza is betterthan pizza at like the chain
restaurants. Yeah, Domino's is decent, but.
That's the least one I would call decent.
You like Papa John's better thanDomino's?
Honestly, we had a Marco's here and now we still have a Marco's
just a little bit farther away, but that's the chain I prefer.
We'll see. Like if I'm going like for like

(34:04):
a legit pizza, like I want like like Times Square, a New York
style pizza that's like decent. Times Square Pizza.
Maybe we shouldn't be like naming these places in
Lexington. Like pay me.
Yeah, that's all good. Ain't nobody we're.
Bleeping this shit out, someone's gonna be like, I live
in Lexington and I tried Times Square just cuz of you guys.
I'm taking that bitch up there, but you guys owe me $7.00 We'll.
See the one in town? They did it right.

(34:26):
Like they're just their name is Lexington's best pizza.
And honestly they're like 4th best so they're not like.
They're not the best. I was like, oh man, that's just
gonna be like real good. And it's just like, Nah, you get
shit on by Italiano. Regular Italiano's is probably
the best. See, I like Elizabeth, they
usually do a pretty decent job. I like Elizabeth in Thomasville,

(34:47):
not the one in Lexington, the one.
In well, there's like 40 of themaround.
So like I, I'm thinking of the ones in Greensboro and stuff
like that. Multiple and like, fucking High
Point Lexington. Yeah, there's so many of them.
My favorite in Greensboro was always Mario's.
I've not had that. Mario's.
There's a bunch of those in in there, but like honestly the

(35:08):
best pizzas most of the times don't come from like ones that
are like those you. Know the chain ones because they
have. Like chain.
But yeah, it's a chain. Yeah, like they use this much
cheese and you do this and this and this and we get everything
packaged from this place. So I just ate out of hungry
Howie's. My wife says that that's the
greatest, and I don't know that that's true.

(35:29):
The crust is fucking that it. Me and Mitchell went to go play
Magic. He was like, hey, man, you want
to go to this draft with me? And I was like, I ain't got
money. And he was like, I didn't ask
that because Mitchell's that kind of thing.
And I'm just like, man, I'm like, yeah, fuck it.
And he was like, all right, I'm gonna get some pizza.
And he stops at Hungry Howie's. And I was like, bro, I didn't

(35:50):
even know we had one of these. I did a pizza tier list, yeah, a
while ago. And I was like, I'm not a Hungry
Howie's. We don't even have one in North
Carolina. So I was just like, I think.
There's one over in Welcome. Put that I didn't I didn't I
didn't know they were that closeyeah.
So it's some good pizza, bro. Is it?
Yeah. And they got like crust
flavoring, but we got the something Hawaiian, big

(36:12):
Hawaiian, whatever, with like a Cajun crust that.
Sounds good. This shit was.
It was it was bomb, but. People who get so mad about
pineapple on pizza, I don't get them.
Like I don't that's not going tobe my. 1st, it's the same people
who don't like Nickelback, like it's the same people like it's a
fad. Yeah, I just like to hop on and
shit on this because it's fun and everybody else.
I ever tell you my anchovy? It's the same type of people

(36:33):
that would do like the asphyxiation challenge on a
social media app when they were kids.
Did I ever tell you my anchovy story?
No. So when I was working at the
factory, they'd like buy pizza very, very, very randomly.
Like it wasn't like what you talk about, like we're doing a
pizza party as like a celebration.
Like it we'd be like having to stay late or something.
So they'd buy it for like the maintenance and like some of the

(36:54):
other people. And one time the boss was like,
you can order whatever kind of pizza you want.
Like we need ideas for pizza. You have told me this one and.
So I asked for anchovies and I get this pizza thinking that I
get to eat it by myself. Like I don't need to have
anchovies on it. It's not like I'm like, oh, this
is so much did. You do it specifically so.
I had a whole pizza, yeah. And then as soon as I got it and

(37:16):
everybody's like you anchovies, that's gross.
And then? Let me try a Pete.
Yep. And then they kid, they take a
bite and they be like, oh, it's disgusting.
And throw it away. I was like, you motherfucker,
like that was my pizza to myselfbecause they said I could order
whatever. The fuck?
Disgusting. Just what I thought.
And so I ended up getting like 3slices of pizza anyway so I was
like you fucking bastard. And it wasn't even as good as it

(37:37):
could have been, because it was anchovies.
Well, no, I like it. Like I'm not.
I'm not saying I don't like it. It's just like, that's not like
I don't. My dad is the type where he has
to like if he's eating pizza, hereally wants it to have
anchovies. But really all anchovies are is
like salt. Like it's a very salty fish, but
the fish flavor doesn't come through as much.
It's more just a bunch of fucking salt.
Bro, we gotta get, we gotta get some guests on the podcast.

(37:59):
I think so, yeah. I think it's time to come to
North Carolina. Reaching out No.
Does it have to be a? It doesn't.
Have to be a do a remote 1. Big.
It doesn't have to be a big namethough.
Like it ain't got to be someone crazy.
Who do you all think would be good guests for this?
Yeah, especially in North Carolina.
Look, it's almost going to be like me.
That's fine, Earnest. Yeah, I can Fair.

(38:20):
Although we should do that. We should just, like, have man.
But what if they're crazy? Like stop pulling your Dick out
like they just do it an inconspicuous way.
Sorry. Just like lift their pants leg
up and every. We don't catch it in the end.
I mean, that's what. You do, and I have to keep
editing it out. Right, yeah, that's why you
should watch the video so you get the Dick flashes in it.
But yeah, I saw this one podcastwhere this guy was like, I have

(38:41):
guests on and like every week and he has 280 something.
I'm like, how the fuck are you getting all these?
And they're just normal people. And I was.
Like, well, once you start, it'slike one of those things where
it kind of builds on itself. Like my wife had a podcast and
she had 50 some episodes and every single one of them had a
guest. That's crazy.
We just need to get somebody with a story.
Yeah like that's what we should do, man.
Look, cuz we do advice. We should get trauma people on

(39:04):
here, people who's been through.Shit like right here.
Yeah, make them sit on the floorright there.
No, like they got to be in frame, so they got to sit right
behind us right here. Like hey, what's your take on
this? And then my whole time is like,
but I don't, here's my thing. I don't want to bring on
somebody who was like, you know,I'm the survivor of a family
annihilator, the sole survivor of a family annihilator.

(39:26):
And I was like, look, look, I understand it was terrible what
happened, but dog great survivalist things, bro.
Like I know you'd kill it in dodgeball.
Like I, I don't know if I we arequalified to do that.
Well, no. And I, I think that that's the
wrong like, because we're not like a self help style podcasts
where inspiring stories and all this other stuff.

(39:49):
That's what my wife's was. And I honestly think that it was
bad for her mental health that she was focusing on people that
had been through all this fucking crazy.
Shit, are you gaslighting me right now?
What? How am I gaslighting you?
Yeah, trying to. Okay.
All right, I thought that you were being serious though.
I was fucking with. I could gaslight them.
You guys just heard that I couldgaslight them?

(40:09):
But yeah, so she was always focused on these people and
those stories need to be told and all that other stuff.
But my wife was trying to get through postpartum and all that
stuff while she was doing her podcast and it just kept
declining for her. I think like she was more
focused on like the bad of everything and like how to get
over it, but it's more focused on the bad, the bad the.

(40:31):
Bad My favorite comments is people that's like, man, you got
to get like Shane Gillis on the podcast.
Yeah, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm just go go grab them.
Let me go, just call them up. It's 7° of separation.
So like somebody on this that's listening to us has a.
Oh yeah, that is, yeah. Guys, if you know a celebrity,
which actually we have, what thefuck's his name?

(40:52):
He played in the Harold and Kumar movie.
Remember, he's in Hickory. Is he?
Yeah. He was the guy that did the.
He had the hot wife, but they were brother and sister and they
kept the inbred in the basement.He played that guy.
So he wanted us on his podcast. Let's go.
Carolina Reaper, John Reap. There we go.

(41:14):
We can get him on here. But also too, I think because
like the older somebody gets, then they stop relating with
like our jokes and shit. So like we're making jokes and
he's like, listen, boys, I, I don't, I don't, I know what you
guys have going on here, but I'mnot gay.
And I'm like, I don't know, man.We like talk about sucking Dick

(41:34):
for fun. And he's like, that's somehow
worse and still gay, No? No, no.
But we're not actually. We're not actually sucking Dick,
but like we would suck a Dick like if we were, you know what
I'm saying? Like we don't have to be forced.
Like you don't got a hold of gunto our head.
It was like, whoa, whoa. This is like, I don't know, like
who we relate to, you know what I'm saying?
So it makes it very hard. Where's?

(41:54):
My phone at I got I got some something on that for exactly
what you're talking about, but keep them entertained for a
second. How the fuck am I supposed to
keep them entertained? Oh yeah, I'm the entertaining
one. I forget that I am the
entertaining one. Oh, fuck you.
But yeah, I mean, it's a struggle to come up with what
guests we should have. Once again, like if you were in
or around North Carolina and you're like, hey, I have

(42:15):
something interesting. Don't just be like, I want to
get on here and then be sweaty when Mike asks me questions
because I'm a fanboy from felonious falafel.
Shit. Don't do that.
But if you're like, man, I got like something interesting that
happened, just fucking shoot us a thing on mikeanddylan.com.
MIKEANDDY lan.com because. We're running short on those.

(42:37):
Yeah, we need. Yeah, we are running short on
those. So I said, so what's the plan
for this Saturday fellas? And then asking them if they
want to come here. And then so come to the do you
guys want to do the studio? And my buddy says is the studio
code for butthole? And I said yes, I thought we
clarified the lingo at the beginning of planning.

(42:58):
And then my other buddy says glad we're all on the same page.
And then I said and all the dadsget one extra blowjob for
Father's Day gift. It was in the contract we all
signed. So my other buddy says who's
providing the blowjobs and I said all of us.
And then he says fair. And then the next guy says I'm
just trying to do Dylan's studio.

(43:19):
Nothing gay like group blowjobs and I'm assuming we are all
doing the studio at the same time so all doing it in the butt
hole at the same time right? And then my one buddy comes back
cuz he hasn't seen any of the text and he's like I love
opening up this group chat to 10new messages about the plan for
next Saturday and butt holes andblow jobs as far as we got.
Not complaining. Right.

(43:40):
Yeah. But that is a guy's chat and
none of us are gay that are actually going to give blow
jobs. But like, that's how we talk to
each other, like in general. That's what I'm saying like if,
if listen, if there's a lady listening to this podcast, Hey,
what are you doing, girl? Get out there and succeed and
like into the big city and and you just work your way up and
breakthrough ceilings. They're the ones that actually

(44:02):
like comment and age. Right that they like it, but but
if your guy is hiding his phone from you, he's doing something
bad because like my wife can be on my phone at any time.
You're just going to see some weird shit.
Yeah, it's going to be just somecrazy like a bro.
But also women be funny as shit too, because my wife will send
me stuff like just like little memes.

(44:26):
She sent me one last night that was like when you put it in
without using your hand And the dude's name is Dick Warlock.
And like, like shit like that. Like that's the, that's the
fucking, that's the humor I fuckwith.
So it is good to. I don't know that my wife also
fucks with that, do you? Feel like an astronaut, like
just porting in, Like just. Oh bro when I the best part is

(44:48):
is like when I we switch positions and I like get on top
and it just. Goes where it's supposed to.
Right. I, I feel like I'm like, all
right, I feel like Tom Cruise felt in fucking in the pilot
movie. What was that called?
Shit, I can't remember. Now not seen it anyways so.
Hot gun or no? Top Gun.

(45:08):
Top Gun. Yeah.
You can't handle the truth. That's all I know about it
because I've seen the whole courtroom scene.
I think I've watched it when I was a kid, but it's not one of
those movies that I'm like I really Cuz I don't really do I?
Hate when I tell somebody I've not watched a movie and they're
like what bro are you? Quit attacking me.
Are you gay? Like what?
What's going on here? I'm just like, I haven't fucking

(45:29):
seen it. Quit attacking me.
What do you mean? That's what I do to you when you
haven't watched American HistoryX or like some of the other
movies that I'm like that one. Do you not like to see dudes get
raped in prison? Yeah.
Look, you know how much better Shawshank Redemption would have
been if Andy Dufrane didn't get his ball tickled in?

(45:50):
Look. Yeah, Like like he got out but
he ain't really get out because the part of you stays on that
dude's Dick. I'm just saying it's it's it's
rough. Am I the asshole for wanting to
cut my family off for success and peace?
Hi Mike and Dylan at first like to say that I love the podcast,
especially the long form stuff. Y'all are really entertaining

(46:13):
and hilarious to listen to whileat work and doing things around
the house. Look, everybody's just like,
bro, make it an hour and 45 minutes long.
Yeah, and I'm like, but everybody doesn't like that.
Some people like it. Nobody said make it shorter.
I don't know. Other than two daddies, they
said like try to keep the stories outside of the stories.
So like if we go. We go on tangents like this that

(46:34):
we're doing right now when I'm trying to read a story.
Got it. But they like it here so.
OK so for the advice background,I'm 17 year old male that's
about to be going into my senioryear of high school.
Terrible parents. And why are you listening to the
podcast bro? It is explicit.
An explicit podcast. Schooling has never been
something that I love doing and I've always loved working with

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my hands. Gay.
Wow bro God. I'm currently taking well to
classes in school and I'm looking for that to be my career
after school. The issue is that my guardians
who are my aunt and uncle are against the idea of me going to
a trade school and are pushing for college while saying in

(47:15):
front of other family members that they completely support me
if I'm bettering myself. My uncle is one that constantly
talks down about the idea of going into trade school and me
wasting my life and turned out to be nothing in my future.
I thought he'd understand because he works in the oil
field and has been making prettygood money from it.
So would it be wrong if I were to disappear after graduation to
focus on building my career and personal happiness?

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Trade school is a waste of time.It doesn't count any.
It doesn't count towards any time during your apprenticeship.
Any trade that you go into has an apprenticeship.
Electrician, anything like that.I think welding is actually one
of the only ones that don't. Well, yeah, you can get
certifications in trade school that you you can get and take to

(47:56):
your job. But also, you could just go
right after school, you know what I'm saying?
Like you get as soon as school ends, as soon as like you are
out of school, you go walk up toa factory and be like, yes, I
would like to be a welder. And they'd be like, all right,
come on, we'll stick you with this guy and he's going to show
you. How to do it?
It depends on like what? He's going to yell at you a
little bit. There's like a lot of different
fields for welding and some of them are.

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Very well, yeah. Like if you're doing like the
fucking pipe journeyman shit where you're going, well then
you have to fucking apprentice under somebody.
Yeah, but you still learn the basics.
Like, I don't say trade schools.Not necessarily.
I'm pretty sure in the trade community it is very widely
known that trade school is a waste of time.
But we could ask tradesmen that because I'm not a tradesman.
So I am pretty sure it is a big thing in the trades community

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that trade school is a complete waste of money and time.
Well, then look into that specifically for welding if
that's what you want to do, because there are different
things like yeah, if you're wanting to be a painter, you
don't need to go to tradesman school to.
Be also I'll give you a life hack though if go to R welding
on Reddit too and ask a bunch ofquestions because those guys are
fucking. I don't know if you know this.

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They Weld for a living, all right?
They'll tell you and they'll tell you.
All right. And now you'll be well, you'll
get half. That'll be like, well, I did
trade school and then other people be coming underneath and
they were like, good job wastingyour time, buddy, because yeah,
I didn't do trade school. I was welding and then fucking.
I was going different places making the $136.00 an hour in
two weeks. Well, and like, there's
difference between because like,yeah, we had a welder like a

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fabricator at the factory that Iworked at.
And like, I mean, he could Weld,but he wasn't, he couldn't have
worked on the pipeline welding like pipes that hold, you know,
1,000,000 or 2 million barrels of like gas and oil going
through there. Like you have to have like very,
very like perfect welds to pull that off.

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So like depending on what you'retrying to do, whether you're
trying to be a pipe welder out in the oil fields or whether
you're trying to be, you know, aguy in the in a factory.
Like I did a welding class at Trinity High School and within
like 3 weeks knew that that was not going to be my career path.
Yeah. Because I was like, bro, I was

(50:05):
like trying to hold it. And they'd be like, he'd be
like, no, stand this way. And I'm like, I feel so
uncomfortable. And he's like, now bring it down
and he's like, it's bubbling toomuch.
And I'm, I'm like, look, bro, I'm in high school.
I don't know why are you going to pay me some money for doing
this? Because it's and then you'd be
like, take it home. I'd be like for what?
Like, look guys, look what I didin school today.
When I worked 2nd and 3rd shift at the factory, like I would

(50:27):
just find like scrap pieces and I'd take the plasma torch and
cut out stuff. Like I've got some sculptures
that I made while I was just andthen I'd take like old paint
that was sitting on. The shelf, man, Anything I did,
I was good at it, you know? Well.
No, I wasn't good at. It I'm like a handy dandy dude.
I'm fucking great at making videos and stuff.
And you know, just anything thatI try, I could just build a
table. I can bring it in and.

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Build a table just for fucking nothing.
He's like Jesus like God. God created like he's just like
oh heaven in the universe. Dylan's just like table.
Different, different skills thatI've learned over many, many
years. It's like artists that are just
able to drop. They're like, yeah, I just, I
think of it and then I'm able tojust like, do it.
OK. I practiced a lot.

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All right, Genie. Yeah.
But they'll be like, yeah, this is what they look like.
When I was a kid, I'd be like, mine looks 10 times worse than
that now. And I tried, man.
I saw everybody drawing and I tried and I got how to draw
books and all that stuff becauseI like, I want to do it
something. And like, you know, the this is
before I was like told that theythink that I'm a little bit

(51:30):
retarded and maybe I should liketry like comedy is going to be
the only thing I could possibly ever get into that doesn't have
me working in a factory for the rest of my life.
But I really did, man. And I tried my hardest to
fucking draw. And then there was just this
kid. Look, it was this kid.
He was his name was Juan Matute.All right, I think he's in a

(51:53):
gang now. So I'm not going to say anything
like real bad about him, but he was just like this really chubby
Hispanic Hawaii. He's like the rock.
He didn't know what he was, but he just like be sitting there
just drawing the most beautiful Dragon Ball Z like 1 to one.
Just do it. And I'd watch him from start to
finish do it. And I'd be like, why are you

(52:14):
starting on an arm? Like he'd start at the weirdest
spots and just make the whole thing.
And I'm just like, must be nice.But then if you talk to him too,
he was like, I don't know, he was like the stereotypical this
guy watches anime because he'll be like, you ever thought about
if I needed to kill everybody inthis room and make an escape,
how fast I could do it? Because I'm pretty sure I could

(52:35):
do it fast. And then one day I was told he
was in a gang. So I've just always believed it.
I don't ever, I'm not going to look up people from the past.
I'm just going to assume that what they told me is real.
So until prove another was he could be in a really good place
right now. But in my brain he is killing a

(52:57):
whole room of people and seeing how fast he can escape.
You're skipping stuff, ain't you?
What? You skipped the bottom one.
Brother, I'm not reading all these.
That's what this show was about there, bud.
Yeah, but people want more talkyepisodes.
They were giving them a more talky episode.
Yeah, I'm just saying you skipped past it, so I brought it

(53:19):
back to the top. I am a fraud and don't know how
to escape Dear Mike and Dylan. So this is probably going to
sound extremely stupid, but I'm in a weird spot.
Like 3 years ago. I stay.
I started hanging out with a newgroup of friends from work, but
there's all super in the craft beer.
The first time we went out I just ordered whatever sounded
really cool and pretended I knewwhat I was talking about.

(53:41):
Said stuff like, Oh yeah, citrusnotes really come through.
You nailed it, bro. Because that's what they all
sound like. Look, that's what they all
fucking sound like. Here's the thing.
I've kept doing it and now I'm like the beer guy in the group
and they asked for recommendations.
The worst part? Actually hate most craft beer.
I'm a bug. I'm a bud light guy at heart but

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I'm in too deep now. What should I do?
That's rough, bro. Like imaginably I'm like, fuck,
I got to fit in with these people.
So now you that one time of you saying I get, I bet the other
guys were just like, Oh, I just like started trying these.
So they're it was like pretty good.
Like it doesn't taste that much like beer.
And then they heard you say the citrus nuts really came through
and they was like, this guy really fucking gets it.

(54:22):
Like this guy knows exactly whatis going on.
You are the I'm the beer guy. Oh fuck.
I bet they saw that episode whenthey put that in there too.
I'm the beer guy. Like that's my thing, man.
I do CrossFit like I'm the CrossFit guy.
I'm the coffee guy. Imagine being that and you
didn't want to be that. Brother, like when I meet people
like that, I know in my heart, aheart, that they're just masking

(54:46):
depression and I'm just like, look bud, get the little thing.
I'm glad you're happy about something right now, but the
faster you get through it, the faster you get through the the
just hollow depression that comes afterwards.
Well, I mean, it's the same thing as you and Magic the
Gathering though. People latch on to something and
that's their thing and they justfucking like go ham on it.
I've been playing Magic the Gathering for 20 years.

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So what's the difference? I've been playing if you if they
find a new. What's the difference between
being like, because they do CrossFit for five years and then
they get on to something else like fucking cycling?
Yeah, if they keep. If you've been doing something
for 20 fucking years, like yugioh Magic.
So yeah, about 20. For 24 years I've been playing
card games. OK, so if you all of a sudden

(55:28):
become passionate about a new thing like say you were good at
drawing and now you're a big drawer and you like to draw all
the time. You can't now be passionate
about that. Like that can't be your passion
like I get I. Mean I get can be your Jackson.
Thing but like. Yeah.
But they're, they're like getting into like their midlife
crisis and they like, they latchon to that.
And then, you know, finally theythey're like, oh, I can like

(55:48):
this stuff without making it my whole personality.
Yeah. But like if you're if you want
to go do something this weekend and you're like, I want to go to
like for example, Dylan are. You what goes on in your brain
that I'm like, they latch on to something and then they drop it
after a couple. Years, I'm saying if they don't
drop it like if it that's their thing, that's.
They're into yes, yes, you couldget into something later in

(56:10):
life. That's fine.
That's. What I'm saying?
But I'm just look, Gen. X does not actually do that.
It's just a funny joke to poke it fat, right?
Yeah. I'm not saying Gen.
X, I'm saying a regular beer. Guy, but bro, I'm thick in it
like if this was going to be a fad, it's like the got like when
parents looked at their kids andthey were like going through
like their little golf thing andthat goth goth I said golf and

(56:32):
then I. Thought you said golf?
It's a fad. And then they're like, man, I
look stupid. Yeah, it was a fad.
Like look. No, we all looked cool.
Bro no everybody looked dumb like I talk shit about the.
My blue spiked hair and then my blue.
Did you really have that? Oh yeah, no, I, I was.
Full Do you have pictures? Yeah, and I got like the big

(56:52):
wide leg, like as big as you could get them.
No fucking. Way or bro I'm finding this out.
Yeah, you have to post pictures on the Reddit.
I was full in like the new metalscene.
Like that was me. No way.
Yeah. Holy shit bro you're like.
You've never seen the video of me like snowboarding with my
black Mohawk and. No, yeah, you're like a year

(57:15):
away from being the coffee guy. Me.
I was too poor to get into a fad.
I was poor too. Like no I couldn't.
I got one pair of pants. I couldn't afford fucking jinko
jeans or off brand ones either. Like I said, I had the fucking
Dollar General. These aren't Dollar General,
these are Walmart. So I'm fancy living now, but the
fucking. Yeah, we got like one pair of

(57:37):
like whatever we wanted pants for like the new school year.
Like we we didn't get like a whole new 5.
What did your dad say when you were buying the pants?
He was fucking accepting that I know your dad.
Yeah, he wanted me to get through my rebellious stage and
do whatever I was going to do. Counterculture.
And then you know. Your mom was probably like, why
are we buying these pants? No, my mom's got to do it.

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My mom was far more supportive. Oh, really?
She's. Just like, yeah, whatever.
Was your mom the type that I waslike, so show me some of the
like the music you listen to? No.
And then you like, put it on andit's fucking like Asking
Alexandria or something. And then, oh, I really hear the.
I tried. Passion I tried to get my dad to
listen to like tool and corn system of a down and like

(58:20):
because like system of a down isreally like left wing political
and so. Look, I will play you some tool,
Dad. The song is called Sober, and
your dad's like, oh, all right. He likes the message.
Are you going to show me anothersong?
No, I'm just going to play soberagain and I want to play sober
again. When I try to show him a.
That's the only you get it, because that's the only good
song they have. The schism's not good.
And then after that I just like no the.

(58:42):
Full albums are great, yeah. Let's listen to a full album,
the one with sober on it, because I think I've only heard
that in schism ever. Yeah, but you also don't like,
listen to like an album from front to back.
You are I. Have to?
Yeah, a single. Song here I have.
To hear a song, like if a friend, if I'm over at a
friend's house and they play a song and I hear it like I have
to hear it like two or three times for like my brain to be

(59:03):
like, all right, we like this song.
I can't just hear a song and be like, wow, this song is good.
I don't have that. That's why look, look, you could
go to Hot Tanks and Smosh and shit like that for or any advice
fucking podcast. But can you ever get advice from
a guy who has no aspirations foranything?

(59:24):
Honestly, is not qualified to doessentially anything.
I mean, where else are you goingto find that out?
I mean, imagine there's some outthere that have like 3 or 4
lessons per. Month, but his wife won't let
him do drugs and become the complete value that he knows he
can be. Yeah, but one thing he could
strive for. Because I could, I could do

(59:45):
drugs better than literally anybody else can do drugs.
Yeah. Now with the, you have a clock
right over there. Do I, can you read it from that
far or no? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got it. I don't have my makeshift
glasses here today. But no, with my dad, like he, he
is a musician and so like he likes music.

(01:00:05):
But I tried to like, I mean, he likes music in the sense of like
kind of talking about the lyricsand how it's all put together
and like all that stuff. And so like we did bond on that
stuff and like I play music too.So like that's one of the
things. But like when I would try to
like I showed him imagine by a perfect circle.
And I was like, I think this version is better than when John

(01:00:25):
Lennon did it. And then he had to go into like,
why that wasn't the case. Now you fucked up.
Now you fucked up, John Lennon. Massively overrated.
Oh yes. In your mind.
Once again, he is one of those people that people put on a
pedestal because they died. They're great songs.
Like there's there's great songsthat he did and like the you
can't take away. Like OK, so I will go to your

(01:00:48):
argument. If a bunch of fucking people
like it, it's good. Yeah.
Bro, that's what you say. I'm just joining in the fucking
the, what is it called? It's not really devil's
advocate. I'm just being a shit stain when
I say things like that. It's just, well, you.
Really don't like The Beatles? Like you really fucking hate The

(01:01:08):
Beatles because your. Step dad fucking loved him bro.
So you have loved him and I had to listen to that.
He's just like, we all live in ayellow submarine garbage like
this shit's fucking terrible. All the songs.
Like it was just like the bro. I could get a fucking group of
my friends and we come up with gay ass melodies like that all

(01:01:29):
the time. I just I didn't understand too
because you would hear like what's your favorite song?
I don't have a favorite. I have a favorite song I do not.
My favorite song is Limelight byRush.
I don't know why though. It just, it like hits on this
like nostalgia thing for me and I just like the fucking lyrics
and what it's talking about and everything.
It's just that that song for me is like, you know what I'm

(01:01:50):
saying? I it's like you have a favorite
song in your in, in whatever mood you're in, you know what
I'm saying? Like like I mean, but I don't
really even have like favorites.It's just like, as my moods
change, my music tastes change because like right now I'm on
like a big like throwback to emoand like pop punk.
Like I like music from literallyevery single genre that there

(01:02:11):
is. The Beatles just, I don't
fucking know, man. I listen to it and I'm like, I
feel like this was like an MK Ultra experiment and they were
doing that in the 50s. And I bet they were like, hey, I
bet we can get the whole world to like just some trash ass shit
and just get them to love it. And once again, I could just be
biased. You are and it's OK to be biased

(01:02:33):
and like but like in general like and I'm not saying their
bro their lyrics. Were as simple as you could.
Fucking did. You listen to any songs in that
era because like, literally it'smusic changing over time.
Like so The Beatles were before Rush and all this craziness with
like Led Zeppelin and all that stuff.
They were. I know they were like the in
the, the the Buddy Holly and shit like that time because this

(01:02:54):
was they were happening over in the technically in the UK and
then, you know, coming over in America a while we had like, you
know, Buddy Holly in the fuckinglike the whole jazz was now
becoming rock type fucking scene.
I understand what was going on in that moment.
And you could listen to lyrics from Americans, like we're
supposed to be the dumb ones. And then listen to the fucking

(01:03:15):
bro. Like I love how everybody's like
these guys are like some 3D fucking brain thinkers.
Like when you listen to fucking like Lucy in the sky with
diamonds and then you find out it's, it's not about fucking
LSD, even though it's Lucy in the sky with diamonds.
And you're like, wow, man, these3D fucking dimensional thinkers.
And then John Lennon's like, well, you saw a painting from a

(01:03:35):
girl and it, it had a girl in the sky with diamonds and we
fucking liked it. So we said Lucy in the sky with
bro. It's fucking like it's the most,
the the simplest fucking things.They don't.
There's nothing profound about it.
I really think look, and it comes from a time of drugs and
this nostalgia and I think they hit on, they were just at the

(01:03:55):
right place at the right time. There's 0 profoundness in it.
I'm sorry, but see like that. That's the thing that was.
I'm not claiming that they were these like musical geniuses.
I'm just saying they were good. They made good music.
They were popular. Like your whole claim for most
things is like, if if people think you're funny, you're a

(01:04:17):
comedian and like, that's fine. And like, that's all I'm getting
at the. Beatles are the only thing I do
this to, by the way. There's nothing out for
everything else. I'm just like, you know, Matt
Rife, if he, you know, there's millions of people that like
him. He's a comedian and I defend
everything The Beatles is just like, I don't fucking understand
what happened once again. But I'm a big conspiracy person.

(01:04:38):
And I really think if you were like, that was the beginning of
the if we tell you, you like this, you like this.
That's what I think, man. They were, they were literally
trying to like shut that down and not let kids listen to it.
Just like they did with Eminem, and just like they did with
everything that's ever been fucking big.
Oh wow, all these people like it.
Is there something wrong with? This so did did they promote
Eminem to make Eminem famous? Like is that what the?

(01:05:01):
That's what it does though. That's what it does.
That's how you create like Counterculture, even though
everybody's following along withCounterculture and it's
literally you're just doing the same thing that everybody else
is doing. But it was a big conspiracy to
try and make people like. I'm saying I just, I believe
look because of because. We're just playing with Elvis
Presley because like, he was gigantic like they were.

(01:05:22):
But listen to an Elvis song and then listen to a Beatle song
that. Elvis didn't write like any of
his music, correct? The majority of his music.
Elvis music was made, it was written to because they
understood back then what chordsto use.
It's kind of like when was BillyCorgan whatever the fuck it Bill

(01:05:43):
Bear, the Bill Bear clone talks about when like there is they
know what riffs to do What fucking yeah.
I'm not a musician. I'm what beast to follow.
That's what they did with Elvis.So his shit was like
scientifically tailored to be pleasant to people's ears during
that time. Like that's what he was.
Even to this day. But I think the they were like,

(01:06:04):
look, we have to if you create the hysteria, the people will
follow. That's what The Beatles feel
like, man. Like their songs?
So what was that goal? What was their goal?
To see how far they could fucking control us.
I don't under look, I get it. People like The Beatles and Mike
could be wildly wrong about this.
They're, they're, they're not like, wow, man, this is like so

(01:06:27):
fucking catchy. And they're not like, wow, this
is so profound. And they're not like, wow, this
is so it's just, bro, it feels like if you taught some friends
how to play some instruments at a decent level and then y'all
got together and was like, all right, let's come up with the
simplest lyrics ever. And then y'all just became huge.
That's what The Beatles feel like.

(01:06:48):
Well, that's what popular music is, is the simplest.
Like there's a reason why all country music is like we got
drunk on my tailgate, drank in aBud Light in the moonlight.
Country is nowhere near the level of like pop music.
It is higher than rock music right now.
Like more popular than rock. But the same with pop music is
it's it's literally the most mind numbingly like simple.

(01:07:11):
What I say they are crafted likethose are crafted like with the
hook and everything to like be be pleasant to the ears and
everything like that. But The Beatles are not.
Because they're the musicians that wrote the fucking songs
like they didn't. I mean, I get that they wrote
the songs, but I really feel like because this was the part
of where they were like trying the mind control shit.

(01:07:32):
Listen, I think they were like, look, we're just going to tell
everybody. It's like the if you get, you
know, you go to a different country, you pay 30 people to
run around, throw some rocks, like light a couple Molotov
cocktails, and you can convince,yeah, you can convince everybody
that you have a riot. That's what it feels like.
It's like if we make this like we, we say that this guy right
here is the biggest fucking thing ever.

(01:07:54):
It's like the whole Justin Bieber thing.
If we tell all these kids that he's like, wow, he's the next
big thing. Look how cute this kid is.
Doesn't matter what music he makes, they're going to follow
along. They're going to fucking
eventually everybody will get around to it like they did with
like, cuz that's honestly what they did with the fucking whole
One Direction thing. They were like, whoa, these guys
are amazing. We'll see.

(01:08:14):
And that's my argument is that, and I'm not saying that pop
music isn't good, it's made specifically to be easy on the
ears. You Can Dance to it, whatever.
And that's why I don't like pop music, because it's been written
in a way not to be a good song in general, but because if you
do this chord structure, you do this kind of lyrics, you put the

(01:08:37):
hook here, you do that, you havea banger.
And that makes it like that, makes it emotionless.
More I can understand, but I canunderstand more how Elvis's
songs can be crafted like that and people love it.
You know what I'm saying then, bro, look, this is what we're

(01:08:57):
going to do. We're going.
To be writing like child rhymes,like there's some really good
songs in there you're you're saying based upon like Yellow
Submarine and Lucy and the Sky I've.
Heard there's every single Beatles Beatles song multiple
times and I have never fucking just like laid bro $0.50 has
been more profound like because my brother look.

(01:09:21):
That's what I'll say 50 years later.
I would be what's he? But he's more like if he says
something that's more profound than the literal band that
everybody's like, these guys were like.
But that's that's. People that are fucking like
fanatics, those are people that are like idolizing them.
I'm not talking about those people.
I'm talking about, in general, the music.

(01:09:41):
Is that might be something too, because like my step dad and his
best friend, like they glazed the fuck out of The Beatles, but
also it seems like too if someone is.
But This is why I like people who like like if you smoke weed,
I fuck with you. If you are just into high
culture, I that I cannot fuckingstand those guys like because

(01:10:05):
they're essentially the copy guys of the pot smoking world.
Like if someone was like, I don't know, man, I just smoke
weed, you know, I try to get some good strands and stuff like
that, but I just smoke weed. I'm not really.
Well, like with music, it's there's so much out there that
yes, if you are just like, like,I mean, I really felt that with
like Dave Matthews Band. I like Dave Matthews Band.
I think their music is good. Would I tour around the United

(01:10:26):
States to go to every single fucking concert that they put
on? No.
But there's never heard a Dave Matthews song.
I mean, I've probably heard one,but like, I if someone put put a
fucking gun to my head and it was like, all right, I'm going
to make this easy. Just name a Dave Matthews song.
I'd be like, bro, I'm dead. I don't know a singular name of
a song from Dave Matthews. Pression to me, no, that's the

(01:10:49):
only one that I could really come to my mind bro.
Other ones like monkey on a chain but I don't think but.
Everybody talks about how popular they are.
It's like U. 2 They were very big.
Like U2. U2's garbage Bob.
I don't know a fucking song. I'm not saying that as in like I
actually think they're garbage. I personally do not like YouTube
but. I don't.
I remember when they teamed up with Apple and got all their

(01:11:11):
songs put onto the. 12314. The new iPad, that or the iPod,
whatever is that came out and itwould like fucking take up
everybody's memory. And then it was almost
impossible to get it fucking removed out of your fucking
playlist and you only had so much room in there.
And then everybody was just like, you know what?
Fuck these guys. Even though they were like

(01:11:31):
giving an album away for free. Yeah, well, it's an album.
I mean they got like $200 million from for Apple.
Yeah, no, I I went to see them play and I want to say it was
the muse that opened for them and we watched them in Raleigh
at the. I got a Muse song.
The Wolfpack Stadium. Paranoia is in bloom.
The PR transitions will browser they're trying to keep us

(01:11:57):
dumped. That yeah, fuck it, dude.
So we were drinking like we're pre gaming before we went into
the concert and then once we gotinto the concert, Muse played
and it was awesome. It was great.
And then you 2 came on and inside the stadium.
I don't know whether it's changed since then, but you
could not buy another drink. So like we were drinking, we
want to continue drinking and wecan't inside the stadium.

(01:12:19):
So like after we make it throughthe opening band The Muse, then
it was you 2 and we made it like3 songs in and we all kind of
like looked at each other and we're like, you guys want to go
to the bar just like. And so we just dipped out of a
like and they were the people that we were supposed to be
going to see. And I did not give two shits
about it The. Problem with me though is like,
I'll like, I'll listen to a songand then I'll like that song,

(01:12:42):
but I can't. I can't then go to that artist
and listen to everything else. I don't.
I just can't do it. And so they'll be bands like,
you know, Disturbed. Some people are going to hate
this, but Five Finger Death Punch, like a decent amount of
their songs. I'm not going to go then look at
their album. So I like when I like somebody,

(01:13:02):
it's usually that I like all their biggest hits.
The only exception, and I have no clue why, is Eminem.
I don't fucking every single goddamn song that mother fucker
has made. Yeah, and I don't know why him
out of everybody. Because all of his songs are
like, I mean, they're like, someof them are fun and just like,
you know, jokey. And then some of them are
fucking super serious and then some of them are really dark and

(01:13:24):
like, so there's like stories. And so each one's its own little
like situation, so. I am on the bandwagon though
that after recovery it just and recovery like half of it was
already like the shit. Now Kamikaze was pretty good.

(01:13:45):
I enjoyed kamikaze but I would take relapse over the shit that
comes out now. But it is he is just he's like
he ain't got nothing else to talk about.
So he just has to show how good he is, which, you know, some
people fuck with. But I don't know.

(01:14:06):
It's just back in the day you could actually like, feel
something, the storytelling and everything.
And now it's just like, how manyfucking double, triple,
quadruple entendres can I make in one fucking line?
Yeah. Which is the best at?
Which I mean, that's that's getting to the top of your
career. Like, I mean that that is kind
of what it is. Like he's not making music

(01:14:26):
necessarily just for, you know, the people.
He's making it as like an exercise of how fucking crazy he
can get. But like, that's the thing
though, is like, he's awesome, but like he's not like on like
this whole like worshipping. That's kind of like what I was
getting at with the Dave Matthews Band is like Dave
Matthews Band is good. Yeah.

(01:14:46):
But like when you make it your whole people.
Stand the fuck out for Eminem though.
Yeah, like they cannot stand like.
They cannot see the forest for the trees.
They would not be like like. I do think MGK lost the rap
battle with Eminem. Got mopped.
Rap Devil was good, like it was actually good.
And then if you look at Kill Shot, he did win with Kill Shot.

(01:15:08):
The whole I got more fans and your own city.
Little Kitty go play feels like I'm babysitting little Tay.
I'd rather be 80 year old me than 20 year old you.
You could, you know, wear my flannels, whatever, but as long
as I'm Shady, you're going to live in my shadow.
Shit like that yes Eminem one rap devil was good because MGK
is saying something and a lot ofkill shot is just Eminem going.

(01:15:30):
I am very popular. You are incredibly popular.
You are a better rapper 100%, but it didn't like you know what
I'm saying? There wasn't anything that just
like fucking bad and then peoplewill be like well that made MGK
switch genres. No, man, Diddy's Dick made him
switch genres. Like everybody overlooks MGK
like he was fucking, you know, listen, all right, bad boy.

(01:15:55):
All right? Yeah, bitch, Yeah, bitch.
Call him Steve O. That's what made him switch
genres. But I mean, I will say Eminem
did win that rap battle, but look at everybody else who has
ever dissed Eminem. He's not really like who big
during their time. And you can't say Ja Rule

(01:16:16):
because Ja Rule was an RB singerand then Benzino didn't rap and
then but Pet Shop Boys fucking I'm trying to think of everybody
big who's ever dissed. He came out.
They call him Slim Anus. You how terrible that is.
Like, yeah, bro, there's been noDicks in my ass.

(01:16:38):
My my anus is going to be slim. Yeah, that that what a crazy
fucking what a crazy diss by fucking by ICP.
But but when you really think about it, he has never had a
legend really go against him. Well, that's because, like,
honestly, why would you like? Correct, Yeah, I mean, but think

(01:16:59):
about like you know, Jay-Z had to go against Nas and fucking
trying to think of more rap means I mean even like today
with the whole Kendrick and Drake, which I think Drake's not
Drake should have like when put when he push it, he does them.
I still like story of added on more than fucking the Kendrick

(01:17:20):
stuff. I still fuck with the Kendrick
stuff though. But after that Drake should have
been like oh OK there's other people here that can say other
other things than you know, MeekMill fucking trying to slog his
way through a disc while he's fucking out drunk high at the
same time and you can't understand what he says.
He should just stop because thenwhen Kendrick got on his ass

(01:17:42):
what was the first one he did Not the one he did with fucking.
Some of these names are just future and metro boomin but the
the one he did that was like euphoria that was like 6 minutes
long. As soon as I hear that I'm just
like Nope. Too long for you?

(01:18:02):
No, if I'm Drake, as soon as I would hear that, no, that's
great bro fucking switches flows3 times like he's fucking he's
nasty on it. And after I was Drake and I
heard that, I'd be like, I'm probably not going to because he
didn't fucking. He didn't go along with Pusha T
anymore. But Eminem never really had a

(01:18:26):
someone you would consider top of rap go against them.
Yeah. And I think that's like almost
for like self preservation of like getting schooled because
like if you're going to talk about just technique and like
the ability to like go in on somebody, like Eminem is very
good at that. And so like, do you want to
challenge your like status of where you're at by going against

(01:18:50):
somebody that because like I mean, it's not like.
But we don't know. He didn't go against any rappers
like he didn't go against any anybody who is proficient at hip
hop like he did not. There's no one that you would
put in his whole. Because it's always people
trying to like basically poke athim to try and gain fame from

(01:19:13):
him Did. You listen to Eminem back in the
day, you did not have to poke Eminem for him to take aim at
you. He was taking aim at, which I
get not at their rappers really.After that, I know it was more
like towards poppy, shit like that.
But after that, once he, and I guess that's is how you make a
name by going after like, you know, these big names and shit
like that. But still.

(01:19:34):
Well, I guess you're right, yeah.
I mean there's just nobody. There's no win for them.
Like if somebody's cuz there's. A ton of There's a ton of great
rappers that never had another big rapper to go against.
Yeah, and like, I mean, really, the beef is great for the
audience, but it's not good for the like the the artist
necessarily, unless you're trying to gain the fame from.
My thing is though, I remember like when hip hop, I don't know,

(01:19:57):
when there was like a rap beef, you were essentially trying to,
you know, prove how much more ofa man and how much more you are
from that life. And then you got Drake Battle
rapping people when the dude is from Canada and he was like on
Degrassi, you know, teenage drama show and people are like,
yeah, his bars are a hard man. He will, he will.
He'll merge somebody. No, he won't.

(01:20:17):
No, he will not. He will not.
He goes. He has, like, PR people and a
therapist backstage that helps him cope through his feelings
after a really long performance.Bro is not murking anybody.
Yeah, which now and then the kids today that come up, they
will kill you like that when they were like, let's actually
get killers to do rap. That's what rap is now.
But guys, look, this has been anepisode of Mike and Dylan.

(01:20:39):
It has hate drama. Yeah.
You got the ADHD part of the M80, the ADHD and the M ADHD.
Submit some damn fucking advice for us to give you advice about,
yeah? Because we're low, like we're
down to the last. I think we got one story left.
We're scraping the barrel guys, and you can do that at
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(01:21:00):
Later, man, I stick.
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