May 28, 2025 • 40 mins
We've decided to do a different format for this episode due to some family events. Just 90 minutes before recording, Mike's wife's stepfather experienced a serious medical emergency where his heart stopped completely. Instead of our usual Reddit stories and advice-giving, we took this opportunity to have a more raw and personal conversation about mortality, family, and what really matters in life.
During this episode, we share our perspectives on death and the afterlife, with Mike questioning traditional religious concepts while Dylan recommends "The Midnight Gospel" for its thoughtful take on loss. We still find our way into some passionate discussions—particularly about water safety for children and the importance of vigilant parenting—but throughout it all, we both emphasize how our connections with family provide life's greatest meaning.
This episode offers a glimpse into our real lives beyond the podcast personas, from Mike's childhood dreams of building his mom "a house of gold" to Dylan's difficult decision about his aging dog. While it's definitely more introspective than our usual content, we hope it resonates with those of you who've faced similar challenges. We'll be back to our regular format next week, but sometimes life reminds us to pause and reflect on what's truly important.
Thanks for understanding this detour, and as always, we appreciate your support. Let us know your thoughts at https://MikeAndDylan.com or join the conversation on our subreddit r/MADHD https://www.reddit.com/r/MADHD/ (you can find the photo's mentioned in episode 16 here) or leave a voicemail at (424) 274-1016
-Mike & Dylan
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Bear never bow down Mike and Dylan hate drama, but the Bow
Wow. Oh man, welcome back to another
episode of Mike and Dylan hate hate drama.
Today's episode is going to be abit different.
We are dealing with a lot in my family right now.
Me and Dylan's talked about it happened this morning.
I mean we're recording it happened an hour and a half ago.
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So my wife's stepfather lives with us, him and her mom they
live with us. They fell in like some hard
times and came to stay with us. So he's been dealing with like a
lot of health issues going on inthe stomach.
So Wednesday he had his gallbladder removed and then
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Sunday we have my youngest son'sbirthday which Dylan came.
It's always fun when me and him are able to hang out outside of
this awful place where we make content.
So Sunday he would have been at the birthday party, but when he
went to use the bathroom, it wasjust all blood and it freaked
him out a little bit. So he went to the emergency
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room. The emergency room told him not
shit like go back home. So he goes home.
Hey, later that night, he's the bathroom again.
It's all blood. So this time he got like real
freaked out. He went to the hospital
Saturday, they gave him some blood and I guess it didn't sit
right. It didn't.
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His body started to reject it. So he had a seizure, but he was
fine after that. So this morning he is just in
bed and he gets up to go use thebathroom and when he used the
bathroom it's all blood again. So he stands up and when he
stands up, his heart completely stopped and he died right there.
They were able to do CPR on him for 15 minutes and get his
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vitals back. But I mean, I'm pretty sure
after 15 minutes, because they're they're they're checking
out now to see if, you know, he's brain dead.
All of his organs are just they're not at a good place.
It's very, very it's touch and go now.
So I mean, I'm expecting half ass during the podcast to get
the, you know, a text or a call from my wife, which I mean, it
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is. It's I do want to explain a
little bit without like going too, too in depth about all of
his personal stuff. So it was back in like 2016, his
only son, when he had a Crohn's disease, he went in to have
surgery on the, the Crohn's, which it wasn't like a major
surgery, wasn't anything crazy. So while they were doing a, the
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surgery, a blood clot went through his heart and killed
him. And that was his youngest son.
And I mean, since then, it's just been for a while there.
He did, he went like crazy, which is normal.
Any, any parent that goes through the death of a child,
there's a, there's, I've seen itfirst hand.
There's a just a era where you are just not there.
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So he was put on like different psychiatric meds and just, he's
had a problem with like, I don'tknow what it's called.
It's like nitrous or something they put you on for.
I don't know what's going to start with the end, but it's for
like, you know, your mental health.
And he had a problem with like abusing that because he didn't
want to be here. And if it wasn't for, you know,
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my kids, which he has no biological relationship to and
honestly is a better grandpa than all of their other blood,
you know, grandparents. So he's it's just it's I've been
watching him struggle for for somany years and everybody in the
family is just going to be tore up about this.
But I'm like, man, like, Hey, itdoesn't matter what you believe.
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Like religiously. All right, Best case scenario,
he's with he's going to be with his son again.
Worst case scenario, he is at peace because people are afraid
of death. Death should be the the thing
that you're least afraid of because yes, while your life
here is over and we people couldsay they know what happens after
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you die till they're blue in theface, they can say, oh man, I
know 100% they don't fucking know because they've not died
and they've not came back. So no one's done that.
And at the very, very worst of passing away, you no longer have
to deal with this world. And I say this like, people are
going to be like, oh, well, you know, kids dying and stuff.
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I know I can't stop fucking withthat.
They're going to be like, you know, with a child dying.
That's that. That's the the hardest thing.
Yeah, it's everybody's. That's the thing that people
don't like to see is when children die because they never
got really a shot at life. But when you, like, peel back
the layers and stuff, life's fucking hard, man.
It is rough. It is even as an optimum because
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I'm fucking optimistic as fuck. Like, I mean, I do, I get down
and I get sad, but normally I'm,I'm very, very optimistic about
things. And to, you know, take any kind
of bright spot from and it that sounds atrocious like to say,
but to take any kind of bright spot is, is like, you know, they
don't have to deal with the the this shit like they don't have
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to wake up every day. You know, everyone's existence.
And there are some people, you know, that were born to like
billionaire parents and they've not had a struggle in their
fucking life. And that's cool.
That comes with this onset set of problems.
I don't think that anybody really comes.
Like, there's going to be good situations in life where you
don't deal with the certain struggles.
But, you know, in that situation, there are also other
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things that might fuck up their mental health and.
Oh, yeah. And so it's just you can't
really judge anybody on having an easy life because you don't
know what other things you know.Could be a shit parent, it could
be an abusive. Like not physically abusive, but
mentally. Abusive.
It's harder to find happiness inlife when you have everything.
Like when you have everything. What do you, I mean, there's no
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accomplishment that you can now do, no challenge where anybody
will take you seriously. It doesn't matter what the fuck
you do. You had money to do it.
Like it's, it's that. And I'm not, I'm not fucking
sitting here. Like we're not sitting here, you
know, saying don't don't be meanto rich people, you know,
comparatively, like with their struggles.
And I don't like to, I don't like people comparing struggles.
OK, but comparatively, their struggles are a lot easier than
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our struggles. But still struggle is a
struggle. And to, to, you know, avoid just
the hardship because it's all hard, man.
And, and you have to have that mindset of, to, to find the, the
happy moments in it. And for a lot of people, that's
really tough, man, especially ifyou see how, you know, mental
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health is in America right now. I mean, we're dealing with an
epidemic of young people killingthemselves.
And it's just, you know, mass shootings every fucking day.
And people will be like, well, it's guns.
You look over at the UK, they don't got guns and shit.
Still shit. Bad shit happens because we
focus so much on the things thatdon't matter.
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Like we, I don't know, it's justit's a lot of shit that doesn't
matter and we neglect the thingsthat do matter.
Do I? I don't.
I can't sit here and tell peoplewhat you know has caused the
mental health decline, whether it be the Internet, which I do
believe is a big part. I think the Internet and like, I
mean, just like video games are so much more like realistic and
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stuff and kids growing up with that mental image of like, oh, I
just shoot all these people. I don't think that's a thing.
Like I don't, I don't think thatit's not a thing though.
Like, I mean, I'm not saying that's the sole cause, but like
people's idea of reality is based upon the digital world
altogether. So social media, movies, TV,
video games, like the actuality of like taking somebody's life.
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Like, I mean, that's one thing that I have to say about like
people that eat meat, they're like, oh, I can't see something
that looks like a look at the animal that it was.
Well, then you shouldn't eat meat.
Like those are the, those are those types of disconnection
from the actual natural world that make it so when kids
without a fully formed brain decide that they're going to go
kill somebody, they just do it. And they don't really understand
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the weight and the gravity of what that actually means.
And so they make decisions that are disconnected from the real
world. They haven't killed an animal,
most likely. They haven't actually taken a
life in any way to like eat. So it's a disconnection from the
natural world. So I think the Columbine
shooters, they played Doom a lot.
It was like a game or something like that.
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And then it was like for like most, Matt, because they did
like a study in it of because they were trying to do the whole
big correlation of video games to violence.
And it was like one out of it was around like 2005 or
something like that when the bigarguments were happening.
Because shout out to look, shoutout to Rockstar Games.
They know how to market their fucking games because they were
the ones that created the bad press around Grand Theft Auto.
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That's hilarious. So everybody would talk about it
and all the young people want towant to play it.
But yeah, not a lot of people who commit like mass murders
have ever played video games or play video games.
And I think actually video gamesis like the opposite because you
see a lot of people who play video games religiously.
Those people 9 times out of 10 are more happy.
Like they have just an escape from reality.
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And that's a that's a beautiful thing, man.
To be able to escape from reality.
It's a great hobby. I do think that people need to
like, just like calm the fuck down on like shitting on people.
I don't play a lot of video games.
Anymore. Well, really, I'm not ever
really played a lot of video games, but I want to just get
shit off for it. But I do think that, you know,
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it should be viewed as, you know, something good.
Like it is like if a guy gets you, of course you have to be a
spouse, a good spouse and help out in a relationship and help
out with your kids, man. But if a guy gets home, he ain't
got shit to do and he fucking throws on a video game, man.
Just let the guy relax because especially working a nine to
five man, you're dealing with bullshit all day.
Fucking restrained outside of any normal capacity that a human
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should be restrained in. Just let them have their fucking
escape. Yeah.
And then also too, I do want to point out that might be in like,
yeah, you know, like death is kind of like a beautiful.
I am not suicidal. Like I'm not just like Mike's
not sitting here all sad and shit.
And just like, let me think about.
It's just the it's like I said, it's a optimistic point of view
about literally the scariest thing that a person will
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experience in their life. Well, and I think that's that's
the hard part. About it again, but I'll stop
myself. You need to move it closer if
you're going to move in any direction.
That good? Oh, and by the way, did you see
the comment of the guy being like, stop interrupting Dylan,
man. Yeah, I wanted to.
Yell at you, I saw you, you, youtook a minute when I was
finishing my thought. You're like, OK, let me just
wait just one second. I'll try.
But I think because I, I view death the same way.
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But like, I mean, I've also donepsychedelics and I've, I've
looked into religion and death and all these other things to
form my view of it. But that's one of the reasons
why, like right now, we're closeto having to put my dog down and
he's getting snippy with the kids.
Same struggle, Same struggle. We're on the same thing.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Dylan's comparing the death of,
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you know, his dog, who's still alive.
I'm given given the explanation of how how my you.
Know exactly what my family's going through right now, bud.
Well, my dad did just go throughdouble bypass surgery and he's
dealing with. His own made him through like a
champ. Bro his dad's like the coolest
fucking you could. God I wish I had a dad.
Just any of them. Like how abusive would have
been. But yeah, no, I hit the lottery
with my parents. They're the greatest.
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But like, and so like I would talk about that.
But that's his personal thing. We've had talks about it and and
like me and him have talked about death since I was in my
teens. You know, it's one of those
things where it's not been something we don't talk about.
And I think that's another problem is people avoid the
discussion of death and being comfortable with it.
But what I was getting at was that in all of the religions and
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all the other things, like that's part of the reason they
exist at all, is to try and helppeople become OK with that
passing. And like, OK, back to the point.
Because now I understand where Iwas at before you were
criticizing me. Playfully joking with my with my
pal. Yeah, we're criticizing.
Sounds terrible. So we have to put my dog down
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and it's a situation where I don't want my kids to get hurt
because he's old and he's getting more ornery and like
snipped up a couple of us. And so I want to avoid my
daughter having trauma of like being bit by the dog.
So it's his time. He's 14 years old.
He's the oldest dog I've ever had.
And my wife is like all bent outof shape about it.
And I'm like, he's had 14 great years.
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He's enjoyed his life like, and he's he's still healthy enough
that you know you're going to besad about it.
He's not like, you know, we haveto carry him outside to go to
the bathroom. But I think that's like
undignified to take a dog to that level because you're going
to miss them, right? And so like Jess is like all
kinds of bent out of shape aboutit.
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And I'm just trying to explain to her that like, OK, you've got
say a week, you know you're going to put him down, spend
that time just loving the fuck out of him, right?
Make that last week the best week you can make.
It I'm getting more sad about a dog down right now.
Like I'm just like and like I, Ido.
I like him. You know, I'm not going to say
his name on the podcast out of respect.
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I like them. There's never been.
It's just like me and death man have always just not like the
biggest passing I've really had was an uncle.
Like I said, the the most, the the closest people in my life
aren't really that close to me. So if it's not my wife and my
children, I'm probably not goingto cry about it.
Now. This one might get me though,
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because literally my middle son was telling me last night and
that like he loves his grandpa. That's his, that's his, that's
his guy. Like he's a pop balls boy and
that's hard for a dad to say that a son is a pop balls boy
and just the fact that that's just going to be so rough for
him. That's what gets me.
And fuck, I don't know if I'm capable of that.
That's the shitty thing about being a parent too, is it
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doesn't matter if you're capableor not got fucking do it like
and to get him through that justthe best way possible.
But we, I mean, we've, we've talked about death and stuff.
So I think this is a good time for the podcast to go off the
rails because I'm tell people a theory that I've always thought
for a long time. So the offsets, you know, a
little bit about like my religious views is that, you
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know, I've, he's there, he's notgoing to intervene in your life.
There's no miracles happening because if you do a miracle, if
you save somebody from some situation that they, you know,
probably got themselves in, thatis not free will.
But also I think that this is the bad place.
Like, and it sounds really, I don't know, I maybe it's cliche
to say I don't hear a lot of people talking about it.
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But to tell me to sit there and say, hey, if you live your life
inappropriately, if, you know, fuck, if you have sex with a
girl before marriage, if you, you know, covet that neighbour's
ass, whatever that means. I mean, if my neighbour's got a
big old ass, like, what am I supposed to do?
Just like, hey, bro, we should work out together.
Look at that. Another gay joke.
Got it, got it. I got to put the fuel in the gay
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mic fire. But to tell me that, you know,
the ultimate punishment is burning in a lake of fire when
on earth you can watch your child slowly die of cancer,
doesn't compute. Because how can you go through
something that is more painful? Because I guarantee you, you go
into any place where, you know, there's terminally sick kids and
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you go up to a parent, say, hey,you know, your child will be OK
if you just burn like fire for all of eternity.
They take that deal right there.Done.
That's it. Not even a second thought.
So to tell me that there is a place other than this where
there's a ultimate punishment that's not as bad.
And then people are going to like, they're going to be like,
well, when they die, they get to, you know, go to heaven and
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everything's all happy. And I was just, I just, it
doesn't compute. You know, there's a lot of
there's a lot of holes in the story in the theory because once
you say, hey, like, I think honestly, I think the stories
are here for people to to just poke holes in like they're being
a creator. I don't believe that, you know,
The Big Bang theory makes sense.It was especially a lot of
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science coming out today saying right, how we don't fucking
know. I just think there's there's a
lot of holes in the theory and what better to like, say, Hey,
you know, there is an afterlife.You want to disprove that
there's an afterlife. We'll give you the story about
it that has, you know, as many holes of Swiss cheese and you
got to believe this or you're going to burn in hell.
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And then you give people something to prove.
If you say, hey, you know, there's a creator.
You know, we came from somethingthat's timeless and fucking
just. It doesn't, It doesn't.
A deity that doesn't fucking conform to, you know, physics
and time, which is so funny too,when people bring up science to,
like, disprove your creator. And I was like, yeah, that's
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really crazy. If that's what it takes to make
a fucking universe work. Have you ever made a universe?
So my theory is, is that all right?
If, you know, there's an afterlife, obviously it's
paradise. Or however we view it, it is
paradise. The thing about paradise is
though, if you come from a stateof constant paradise, you don't
fucking know that's paradise. You won't you you it doesn't
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matter who you are, how good of a place is if you've all and
it's kind of like what we talkedabout.
We're rich people. If you've always had it good,
then goods not good anymore. And maybe this is a place where
we come to be like, fuck, this sucks, like this, this sucks.
So we get back to that place. Or maybe, you know, we fucked up
and this is the place where we come to just, you know, spend
100 years. We like God this side and then
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we go back and fucking, but it just to tell me that like you
die and then you feel nothing. People like, well, you were born
and you feel nothing. I'm feeling well.
They kind of ruin it. If you were born with all the
men and you're like, I'm do all this differently.
I'm going to invest in Bitcoin. That's what I would do, man.
Fucking give me a time machine. Well, I think that's the hard
part with any of these discussions though, is like
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nobody knows for certain any of it.
And so my view on life in general is make the best of it.
Like I mean, you can, you can make the worst of it, which a
lot of people decide to do. They want to see the negative
and everything and want to just be like, oh man, this is tough.
And like, but those moments where like you meet your wife,
where you get to spend time withyour kids, like those are
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literally like, and I always thought that, you know, back in
my teens and 20s, like partying was fun and like all these
friends and all that stuff. And until I had my kids and
married my wife, like I was like, holy shit.
Like this is like drug free. Like the best fucking buzz I
could ever have. I'm not wasting all my time now
too. Yeah.
And, you know, and if you, it's really easy to look at it and be
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like, man, I got to, you know, do all this stuff to take care
of my family. And it is hard, but it's some of
the most fulfilling things that you've ever done.
Like it is those challenges. Like, so yeah, you're talking
about like billionaires and stuff.
If they actually give a shit about their family and their
kids, those struggles are still there.
And so they can still find joy and like fulfilment.
Now I make you not just a serialkiller, essentially.
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Like how do I make it where you don't go to ditty parties?
Because I mean, I'm going to tell you what, it's so weird
that and I guess this is like one of the problems with being
rich though, is that, I mean, nothing makes you have feelings.
So you'd hard to start doing weird nasty fucking shit.
Yeah. So I I think that's and.
You can push those boundaries because nobody's checking them
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like. Right, And y'all, y'all can feel
safe though if I ever get rich though, because I spent 32 years
being just got awful poor. So I have a long time to enjoy
before I would be like, huh, kids?
I don't know why all of them do that too.
They're just like, you know what?
I have all the money in the world.
I can do whatever I want. I'm gonna get a couple children.
We'll see. That's the thing that was like,
there's that weird affliction. Your grandpa had it and he was
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not a rich person. And like, so it's one of those
things where like people are just fucked like they're, and I
don't get why I I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't think it. I think it just, you know, it's
a, it's at a poverty line. Yeah, and and it's just the rich
do have a way of getting out of things.
They have money, they have power.
So they can do things that like if your grandpa had all the
money in the world and could buyoff some.
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He would have, he would have had, he would have had pop out.
I would have caught it. Pop all island.
Yeah, yeah. They'd be like, oh, you like
Papa Island? I'm like, no.
No. No, I mean, it's cool.
Like there's like water slides and stuff like that.
It's just like the pinky in yourbutt at the end of the day.
I'm just like, why is that a mission into the water park?
I don't understand. But I don't know, it's just it's
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so many weird things you think about.
And I feel like this is a weird podcast too, because it's hard
to be funny. I think it is.
But everybody goes through this and you are funny when you talk
about anything, but like everybody's going to go through
this at some point in their lifebecause.
We got to get Joe Rogan. Everybody dies.
One thing that I wanted to suggest to you, and I don't know
if you've watched it already, but there's The Midnight Gospel
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on Netflix. It's like a animated It's
actually a podcast and then theykind of wrote stories around it
and then animated it. And the last episode deals with
like his mother dying and he hadhis mother on the podcast and
they sat there and talked. Well, I don't think he like had
her on the podcast. I think they just recorded a
conversation. But like when I watched that,
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like, I mean, it was heartbreaking and also like
relieving at the same time. Like it, it kind of no theory is
100% correct, but there's a million ways to look at death
and you know, the saddest 1 is, you know, we die and nothing
happens. But also that isn't sad because
the person that is going throughthat suffering no longer has to
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go through that suffering so. I mean, there's a lot of
cultures that don't view death as a bad thing and I think a big
reason to why we have so much media and shit thrown at us to
say hey, death is a bad thing soyou better go to work for 8
hours. You better do everything that
you're supposed to do. Don't take any fucking risks.
You know what I'm saying? If.
Don't enjoy your life? Right.
If someone's holding you down, don't oppress or like if
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somebody's oppressed and you don't fight back because you
might die. And that's oh, that's super
spooky. I do think that's why death is
such a big thing in life, in life now, especially in fucking,
you know, first world countries where there's fucking, you know,
tribes that they're just like, yeah, you know, they fucking,
they went on man, like you fucking or they, they look at it
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in a in a more beautiful way where everybody, I mean, you
can't say this like with fuckinglike a mass shooting, third
people die. You can't be like how they've
all went and it's very beautiful.
You can't do that. There's tragedy and, you know,
life's taken and everything. And but I think in a lot of
circumstances like this, especially the circumstances
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around like someone's passing away, like, you know, I am
losing a son. It's been so hard for him to
deal with it. And now it's like worst case
scenario is he won't feel any pain physically or mentally, you
know, with the loss of a son or the health problems.
And low key, I don't want peopleto be like, oh, Mike, so
heartless, low key. That is a beautiful thing.
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Yeah, Dad, I cannot at all explain to my son like I can't
tell my son like that, you know what I'm saying?
Well, I think we should be happy, Pablo, Dad, because now.
And he's just like, what the fuck, bro?
Like, Dad's a fucking monster. Yeah, I would have to like work
him into the conversation. Well, I think that's what
religion tries to do is say thatoh guaranteed he was a good
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person. He, you know, accepted Jesus as
his Lord and Savior and so he's off sitting at the right hand
side of Jesus right now like. This is how many funerals where
they he was a man of God and I was like, did y'all know him?
Did y'all did y'all hang out with like my uncle dad?
They had this whole he was a manof God.
It was like 16 women there who had slept with bro.
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Like he was like he was, he was a free spirit, a free spirit man
and he was he was he was great too.
He was, he had definitely had some trauma from, you know, his
childhood and that had a lot to do with the lifestyle that he
lived. Drank a lot of beer, you know,
fucking. And my cousin, my cousin
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obviously has had a hard time dealing with his past.
And, and, you know, like she waslike, because she would always
bring up, you know, he wasn't perfect as a dad to like try to
make me feel better about it. And I'm like, listen, Saul, you
know everything where he came from and you know what he could
have been because any any dad that likes just, you know,
fucking bitches and drinking beer usually just don't stay
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around the kids at all. So he, you know, tried to what I
believe was the best of his ability to be a father.
It's like, why don't give my momso much hell?
Because the shit that she went through, literally, if others
went through it, you would not be where you're at.
Like, that is some fucking that that shit will make you fold.
Like it's rough shit. It'll take out right?
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Yeah, it'll, it'll fucking take you out.
And to to get through that and to be a, you know, because it
wasn't like my mom was just likebad all the time.
She was, you know, very uplifting mom.
She never worked, slept a lot. Like I said, she had her flaws,
but she was a very uplifting mom.
She wasn't the type that was like, you know, the world of
shit. She always told me that I could
be something, you know, she always, you know, fed into that
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when I was like, you know, I want to do this.
The big the biggest thing when Iwas a kid was I wanted to be an
architect and I always told my mom I'd build her a house made
of gold. That was a thing that we always
talked about when when I was a kid.
And then as I got into like middle school and high school, I
was wanting to be a lawyer, but I was also starting to like fuck
up and shit like that. So I was just by the time senior
year was coming, I was like, mom, I the Wendy's is like the
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best that you're going to get from me.
So I told you about the golden house.
I'm going to be I'm working at Wendy's.
See, that's the wild thing. It's like I did not want to be
in architecture, but I have no path.
Like, I was completely lost whenI was graduating and one of my
friends was going into architecture and I was like,
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yeah, I know how to do drafting.Sure.
That fucking hang out together. And then I think it like, I
don't want to blame it all on click, but click was one of
those like defining moments where I was just like I was
about. To talk about Click earlier,
Yeah, bro. Like when you were talking about
how sad that documentary is and I was like, that's good you told
me. Because then I'll go in thinking
that it's sad. So then I won't get sad because
I'll be like, this is like, it'slike seeing the horror movie
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monster. Are you talking about Midnight
Gospel? Yeah.
No, it's not sad. Yeah, but it was like, it's like
the last episode, right? Yeah, but you know how like the
monster in horror movie, if you show it, people would be like,
oh, that's not as scary as I thought it was.
Like, well, Blair Witch is so scary.
That's kind of how it is with mewith when someones like all this
movie is really, really sad. And then I see the sad and I'm
like oh this is not as sad as mybrain thought that this could
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possibly be set Click nailed it.Fucks me up every time.
Bro that's a scary movie that. That is legit a scary.
Movie man, when he is doing the thing for his father, I'm just
like, I'm sitting there. That one fucked me up.
Coco fucked me up. I wasn't expecting that.
In Coco, you know when fucking she remembers her dad.
They start singing about him, and then he starts.
She starts talking about her father.
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Oh, man, look, I'm getting choked up a little bit.
Coco Man. Yeah, no, that one's great just
because like the whole movie, you're you're kind of like, you
know, like, oh, that guy was a fuck up and he thinks he was
like a shit dad and like, right.But he still loves his daughter.
And then like as it goes on, you're like, oh, shit.
Like, no, he was just trying to do the best he could for his
family. And then he was like literally
murdered. Gonna go ahead and go home and
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say fuck you to the the tour andeverything and homie couldn't
take it and took him out but no.Onward got me too.
Sorry. Yeah, no onward.
Onward was great too. But like I think the thing with
click is like I should watch it again because it's I think it's
especially with social media andstaying in our phones and all
that stuff. It's one of those things where
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we're like fast forwarding life,like we are missing a lot of the
key moments that if you wiped everything away, TV, social
media, all that other stuff, like how much time would you be
spending with your kids, like outside and playing and doing
all the things that like really ultimately is going to define
their future. But right now, it's so easy to
just Fast forward, Fast forward.And even if like, you know, you
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want like you're OK with your kids being on be on technology
with them and they ain't going like I said, me and the kids we
this morning we spent playing grow a garden in Roblox.
My garden is fucking dope, bro. And like, I'll be showing these
kids what money can do because Idon't do that shit.
They they got time to grind, gottime to grind in a video game.
Like I can't be, I can't be getting all this equipment.
They'll be like, how'd you get that?
And I'll be like, oh, it was like a new thing.
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They give new players. Too bad you're not a new player
anymore because they would have gave you all that.
And they're like, fuck, man, that's real good.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I admire, admire it.
But but yeah, we do miss a lot of shit.
I don't know, man. It's it's hard.
It's just so hard being a which today I'm actually making
content. I haven't told you about this
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yet. So I was watching a video
Saturday night where this and itstarts off with one of these
ladies that is outside of a house.
She's done her own research. OK, so she knows and she's
warned in the public, OK about how dangerous puddle jumpers
are. This shit had like over a
million likes, so I don't even know how many views it had.
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But she was talking about like how puddle jumpers are dangerous
because the way it holds a childand they're like, they're
acceptable to drowning and shit like that.
And I'm like my kids, like I love puddle jumpers.
What is a puddle jumper? So it's like it goes on your
arms. It's like a vest, OK.
And so it's essentially a life jacket, but it goes around your
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arms like floaties does, and then has this middle thing that
floats too. And then it connects in the
back. And she was talking about some
dumb shit about how it's designed will make you go
underwater. And I'm like, bro, the huddle
jumpers have never caused a child to drown ever.
There's not a device that has ever been made that has caused
the child to drown. Do you know why children
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drowned? Because of unattentive parents.
That's it. That's all it is.
At the end of the day, if your child drowns in some kind of
flotation device, that is because a parent put them in.
There was like, oh, I can step away now or I can talk to this
person. I could be on my phone.
Water is one of the biggest killers on earth.
Water is fucking dangerous. If you are at a body of water,
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there is nothing that anybody can invent.
They can invent the safest fucking thing to be on water if
you are not paying attention. A child is a thinking little
little gremlin man that is always trying to get out of
shit, trying to fucking move, trying to, you know, pull shit
off the the only thing they could invent to circumvent
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children die or, you know, drowning in a flotation device
is something for the parents to be more fucking attentive to
them. See, I like and I agree that it
is the attentiveness, but that you're talking about a little
gremlin that can open a door andgo out to a pool.
That's one of the reasons why wedon't put any floaties on my
daughter is because like if you give them the false sense of
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security that they can swim and then they break out or they
break free, it only takes moments for a kid to drown.
And so if they think that they can get in the water and float,
but they haven't been trained onhow to swim.
Like that's one of the things with like the infant swimming
classes and stuff, which, you know, once again, I like, I
think it's kind of traumatic. I mean, I imagine it works well
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for some kids, but basically they're like drowning a kid with
drowning to get them to learn how to swim, which is great if
you have a pool and you really need that.
But like with my daughter, like I want to just teach her how to
swim. She's getting older and getting
to the point where she can swim.But if we had a pool and we had
her in floaties and so she thinks she can swim even though
she's not able to swim without the floaties on, it just creates
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that full sense of security. So they'll go and run and jump
into a pool and it only takes moments before that kids gone.
And so I agree, it's ultimately all on the parents to make sure
that you're watching your kid and having the safeguards in
place. But those moments can happen
like that. And so I'm not saying that those
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things caused any drowning or anything like that, but giving a
kid the ability to think that they can swim when they can't
swim is dangerous as well. I don't I don't know why you
would tell this more applies to like children that are not of
the, you know, associating a youknow what I'm saying?
Like they're not talking to you about fucking deep shit and
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stuff like that. Because like I said, I used all
my kids used puddle jumpers and then I teach them how to swim.
So we're going right through that right now with my middle
son. The only thing is he has you
seen him, he has no fat on his body at all, which makes it
you're less buoyant. So you just fucking think.
But you know, unfortunately there was a lady on TikTok whose
child I guess went to the like the back door some shit and what
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jumped to swimming pool and passed away.
And it's very, very sad. But I understand it's sad and
that's unfortunate. And you can give encouraging
words, but don't fucking get like I've seen so many videos of
like the parents, like a photo of them.
And then it's like the Robin Williams, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault. Then whose fucking fault is it?
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The kids? Like, yeah, fucking that, that
was his fault. That little 3 year old just
fucking ran out. It's just I that doesn't compete
with me. I understand being a parent is
hard. There's times where you're
tired, but fucking giving leewayon that is the same as giving
leeway on leaving a kid in a hotcar.
If you cannot, if there's a partof you that thinks, oh man, I'm
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gonna be too tired at any point to make sure that this fucking
being right here is anything butokay.
Don't have kids. Don't have kids.
Like if if puddle like she's saying puddle jumpers kill
people would be the same as me saying, well, because my kid
doesn't say, Hey, check your back seat for your child, which
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cars do now because people have kids that should not have kids.
But it says check. Then Kia killed my kid because I
left it in the car. You know, why didn't they come
out with kids out here killing children?
Because they're not putting to check your backseat.
I love the one that's like, you know, put your shoe in the
backseat so you don't forget your kid because then you only
have one shoe on. Who's going to remember to put
their shoe in? Well that's my kid man, but my
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Jordan's in the fucking backseatbro.
Like I can't leave my Jordan there.
But if you're not going to remember your kid, you're not
going to remember to take your shoe off and put it in the
backseat like that. That also takes mental
processing, so I. Watched the documentary about
this preacher and he had left his child in the back seat and
the child passed away and he waslike, you know, I'm just, I'm
using as a, as a positive thing.I'm like, you should be in
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prison, like you should not, this should not be a positive
thing for anybody. You there's no fucking there's
no a child has no say so in its life all right for one didn't
ask to be here, OK can't fuckingdefend itself take care of
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itself. Look after itself.
Do nothing not safe at all. The parent is solely responsible
for the child getting through. So I'll give you a good example.
We're at the lake on Sunday after the birthday party, which
was kind of cold. And like I said, middle child
made a whole fit about it. But my daughter, you know, she
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has asthma. So she was like, Oh, I need my
inhaler. And I was like, oh, it's in the
car. I have to go get it.
So we all got to get out of the water.
And she was like, oh, I'll just watch him.
You know, he's in a puddle jump too.
And I was like, no, what? No, And she was like, well,
can't we play in the shallow part?
No, no, because like I said, if shit goes wrong, there's one
mother fucker I can rely on to handle shit.
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That's me. I'm not putting that
responsibility in another person's hands.
My kids are not allowed to go swimming without me.
That's a, like I said, if it's, I would be more comfortable with
them going to an amusement park without me then going to a body
of water. Like people just don't, they
don't understand water is, you know, seen as this thing of fun.
And that is a problem with like little kids because they see
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water, they just want to jump in.
Like if a, if a little kid goes missing, that's the first thing
you do is go check the lakes, Gofucking guard the lakes because
that's where the fuck they're going to.
Every time there's a little kid missing, unfortunately they're
found in the body of water. And that's because like
everybody water so fat water is like the deadliest fuck.
People talk about deadly substances, acid, all this crazy
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shit. Toxic water is fucking
dangerous. Like it is dangerous, but I
don't know. Do they have a lifeguard of that
swimming hole that you guys go to?
No, no, no lifeguard. Both of them have no lifeguard
on this. A lake?
Well, yeah, but I guess during the summertime they might have
one out there, like when it's like real deep in summer.
So it's free, just go there and go swimming.
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Yeah, yeah, it's 24 hours too. 24 hours you can go out there at
night. Just go fucking swimming.
Oh, that's well, I fucking I love, I love a lake.
Amy's like, oh. So we've got a membership.
Scared of lake water getting on you Kitty?
Go go into a fucking public swimming pool and have that shit
fried by the chlorine and kid pee and shit.
Well. That's one of the things I was
telling Mike about it. Living Mind is Mark Rober did a
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episode on why pools smell the way that they do and it
technically if there's just chlorine in the water until you
add urine it does not smell likea normal pool.
But the second that you add urine to that pool water, then
it smells like chlorine and smells like a pool.
So technically, without any urine in the water, the pool
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does not smell like the pool. That's, that's wild, man.
Because they all smell like realbad chlorine to me, man.
So that means they're just just.But I mean, when I get in the
lake, that's like the first thing I do.
Is pee in the lake? Yeah, I'll even jerk around with
the kids you got. You guys want to feel a warm
spot right here? Now we're in the lake too, so I
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won't take 3 kids if it's just me.
If it's me and Amy will take alltheir kids.
But I have both of them and we can be kind of a part kind of
like, you know, middle son stillin the, the puddle jumper and
which I, I tell my daughter, youknow, I'm like, you have to be
because she can swim, but you have to be where you can stand
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if I'm dealing with him, becauseif you go underwater in a lake,
I cannot see you. What we went through like the
whole like drowning protocol andstuff like that.
If you're drowning, the first thing you, you do, if you can
get your head above water is scream as loud as you can.
That's it. Just scream as loud as you don't
be worried about saying help or anything like that.
Now, if there's something wrong and you can't scream and you're
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at a part where you can, you canfeel the bottom and you can
stick your stick, your hands outof the water because it is just
in, in the ocean. It's really hard to see you too.
Yeah. What's so funny?
And it's not funny. Like I said, none of the stuff
is funny. And I'm not being like, oh, you
know, you're I'm saying fucking be accountable, man.
Like these little kids are they have our lives are in their
hands. If something happens to them,
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they're in no way, shape or form.
Can we said like there's freak things that happen.
There are, which you know, is why we get warning labels on
stuff because we didn't see thatas a thing.
But now we got the warning labels and shit.
Everything you should, you should be able to see shit
coming. But when we took my daughter to
the first time to the the beach,she's 2 years old and she had
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one of the we had a leash. We had her on a leash because
listen, like I said, at the ocean, especially at Myrtle
Beach shows a mass unit there onlike Saturday or Sunday.
Well, a fun fact, not so fun fact, but we had her on a leash
because if you get hit with a wave, like you can't see where
the yeah, yeah, you get pulled too.
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So it's impossible to tell. And I like we had, you know, her
on a leash. I'm like, we look.
So yeah. And it was probably towards the
end of summer, little child was walking with her mom and got hit
with a wave and passed away. And I was just like, well, I'd
much rather look corny than haveyou did so every day of the
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week, every day of the week. So this is gonna be a rough
episode to get through, especially if you don't like
talking about death and dying. And I'm sorry I gave this
warning at the end and you just have to listen to all of it.
But. Next episode, we'll continue
with our hopefully, you know, regular funny.
Light hearted? Not so.
Not so deep unless know what youthink about the deep stuff.
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Bear never bow down Mike and Dylan hate drama, but the Bow
Wow. Oh man, welcome back to another
episode of Mike and Dylan hate hate drama.
Today's episode is going to be abit different.
We are dealing with a lot in my family right now.
Me and Dylan's talked about it happened this morning.
I mean we're recording it happened an hour and a half ago.
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So my wife's stepfather lives with us, him and her mom they
live with us. They fell in like some hard
times and came to stay with us. So he's been dealing with like a
lot of health issues going on inthe stomach.
So Wednesday he had his gallbladder removed and then
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Sunday we have my youngest son'sbirthday which Dylan came.
It's always fun when me and him are able to hang out outside of
this awful place where we make content.
So Sunday he would have been at the birthday party, but when he
went to use the bathroom, it wasjust all blood and it freaked
him out a little bit. So he went to the emergency
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room. The emergency room told him not
shit like go back home. So he goes home.
Hey, later that night, he's the bathroom again.
It's all blood. So this time he got like real
freaked out. He went to the hospital
Saturday, they gave him some blood and I guess it didn't sit
right. It didn't.
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His body started to reject it. So he had a seizure, but he was
fine after that. So this morning he is just in
bed and he gets up to go use thebathroom and when he used the
bathroom it's all blood again. So he stands up and when he
stands up, his heart completely stopped and he died right there.
They were able to do CPR on him for 15 minutes and get his
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vitals back. But I mean, I'm pretty sure
after 15 minutes, because they're they're they're checking
out now to see if, you know, he's brain dead.
All of his organs are just they're not at a good place.
It's very, very it's touch and go now.
So I mean, I'm expecting half ass during the podcast to get
the, you know, a text or a call from my wife, which I mean, it
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is. It's I do want to explain a
little bit without like going too, too in depth about all of
his personal stuff. So it was back in like 2016, his
only son, when he had a Crohn's disease, he went in to have
surgery on the, the Crohn's, which it wasn't like a major
surgery, wasn't anything crazy. So while they were doing a, the
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surgery, a blood clot went through his heart and killed
him. And that was his youngest son.
And I mean, since then, it's just been for a while there.
He did, he went like crazy, which is normal.
Any, any parent that goes through the death of a child,
there's a, there's, I've seen itfirst hand.
There's a just a era where you are just not there.
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So he was put on like different psychiatric meds and just, he's
had a problem with like, I don'tknow what it's called.
It's like nitrous or something they put you on for.
I don't know what's going to start with the end, but it's for
like, you know, your mental health.
And he had a problem with like abusing that because he didn't
want to be here. And if it wasn't for, you know,
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my kids, which he has no biological relationship to and
honestly is a better grandpa than all of their other blood,
you know, grandparents. So he's it's just it's I've been
watching him struggle for for somany years and everybody in the
family is just going to be tore up about this.
But I'm like, man, like, Hey, itdoesn't matter what you believe.
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Like religiously. All right, Best case scenario,
he's with he's going to be with his son again.
Worst case scenario, he is at peace because people are afraid
of death. Death should be the the thing
that you're least afraid of because yes, while your life
here is over and we people couldsay they know what happens after
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you die till they're blue in theface, they can say, oh man, I
know 100% they don't fucking know because they've not died
and they've not came back. So no one's done that.
And at the very, very worst of passing away, you no longer have
to deal with this world. And I say this like, people are
going to be like, oh, well, you know, kids dying and stuff.
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I know I can't stop fucking withthat.
They're going to be like, you know, with a child dying.
That's that. That's the the hardest thing.
Yeah, it's everybody's. That's the thing that people
don't like to see is when children die because they never
got really a shot at life. But when you, like, peel back
the layers and stuff, life's fucking hard, man.
It is rough. It is even as an optimum because
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I'm fucking optimistic as fuck. Like, I mean, I do, I get down
and I get sad, but normally I'm,I'm very, very optimistic about
things. And to, you know, take any kind
of bright spot from and it that sounds atrocious like to say,
but to take any kind of bright spot is, is like, you know, they
don't have to deal with the the this shit like they don't have
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to wake up every day. You know, everyone's existence.
And there are some people, you know, that were born to like
billionaire parents and they've not had a struggle in their
fucking life. And that's cool.
That comes with this onset set of problems.
I don't think that anybody really comes.
Like, there's going to be good situations in life where you
don't deal with the certain struggles.
But, you know, in that situation, there are also other
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things that might fuck up their mental health and.
Oh, yeah. And so it's just you can't
really judge anybody on having an easy life because you don't
know what other things you know.Could be a shit parent, it could
be an abusive. Like not physically abusive, but
mentally. Abusive.
It's harder to find happiness inlife when you have everything.
Like when you have everything. What do you, I mean, there's no
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accomplishment that you can now do, no challenge where anybody
will take you seriously. It doesn't matter what the fuck
you do. You had money to do it.
Like it's, it's that. And I'm not, I'm not fucking
sitting here. Like we're not sitting here, you
know, saying don't don't be meanto rich people, you know,
comparatively, like with their struggles.
And I don't like to, I don't like people comparing struggles.
OK, but comparatively, their struggles are a lot easier than
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our struggles. But still struggle is a
struggle. And to, to, you know, avoid just
the hardship because it's all hard, man.
And, and you have to have that mindset of, to, to find the, the
happy moments in it. And for a lot of people, that's
really tough, man, especially ifyou see how, you know, mental
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health is in America right now. I mean, we're dealing with an
epidemic of young people killingthemselves.
And it's just, you know, mass shootings every fucking day.
And people will be like, well, it's guns.
You look over at the UK, they don't got guns and shit.
Still shit. Bad shit happens because we
focus so much on the things thatdon't matter.
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Like we, I don't know, it's justit's a lot of shit that doesn't
matter and we neglect the thingsthat do matter.
Do I? I don't.
I can't sit here and tell peoplewhat you know has caused the
mental health decline, whether it be the Internet, which I do
believe is a big part. I think the Internet and like, I
mean, just like video games are so much more like realistic and
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stuff and kids growing up with that mental image of like, oh, I
just shoot all these people. I don't think that's a thing.
Like I don't, I don't think thatit's not a thing though.
Like, I mean, I'm not saying that's the sole cause, but like
people's idea of reality is based upon the digital world
altogether. So social media, movies, TV,
video games, like the actuality of like taking somebody's life.
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Like, I mean, that's one thing that I have to say about like
people that eat meat, they're like, oh, I can't see something
that looks like a look at the animal that it was.
Well, then you shouldn't eat meat.
Like those are the, those are those types of disconnection
from the actual natural world that make it so when kids
without a fully formed brain decide that they're going to go
kill somebody, they just do it. And they don't really understand
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the weight and the gravity of what that actually means.
And so they make decisions that are disconnected from the real
world. They haven't killed an animal,
most likely. They haven't actually taken a
life in any way to like eat. So it's a disconnection from the
natural world. So I think the Columbine
shooters, they played Doom a lot.
It was like a game or something like that.
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And then it was like for like most, Matt, because they did
like a study in it of because they were trying to do the whole
big correlation of video games to violence.
And it was like one out of it was around like 2005 or
something like that when the bigarguments were happening.
Because shout out to look, shoutout to Rockstar Games.
They know how to market their fucking games because they were
the ones that created the bad press around Grand Theft Auto.
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That's hilarious. So everybody would talk about it
and all the young people want towant to play it.
But yeah, not a lot of people who commit like mass murders
have ever played video games or play video games.
And I think actually video gamesis like the opposite because you
see a lot of people who play video games religiously.
Those people 9 times out of 10 are more happy.
Like they have just an escape from reality.
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And that's a that's a beautiful thing, man.
To be able to escape from reality.
It's a great hobby. I do think that people need to
like, just like calm the fuck down on like shitting on people.
I don't play a lot of video games.
Anymore. Well, really, I'm not ever
really played a lot of video games, but I want to just get
shit off for it. But I do think that, you know,
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it should be viewed as, you know, something good.
Like it is like if a guy gets you, of course you have to be a
spouse, a good spouse and help out in a relationship and help
out with your kids, man. But if a guy gets home, he ain't
got shit to do and he fucking throws on a video game, man.
Just let the guy relax because especially working a nine to
five man, you're dealing with bullshit all day.
Fucking restrained outside of any normal capacity that a human
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should be restrained in. Just let them have their fucking
escape. Yeah.
And then also too, I do want to point out that might be in like,
yeah, you know, like death is kind of like a beautiful.
I am not suicidal. Like I'm not just like Mike's
not sitting here all sad and shit.
And just like, let me think about.
It's just the it's like I said, it's a optimistic point of view
about literally the scariest thing that a person will
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experience in their life. Well, and I think that's that's
the hard part. About it again, but I'll stop
myself. You need to move it closer if
you're going to move in any direction.
That good? Oh, and by the way, did you see
the comment of the guy being like, stop interrupting Dylan,
man. Yeah, I wanted to.
Yell at you, I saw you, you, youtook a minute when I was
finishing my thought. You're like, OK, let me just
wait just one second. I'll try.
But I think because I, I view death the same way.
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But like, I mean, I've also donepsychedelics and I've, I've
looked into religion and death and all these other things to
form my view of it. But that's one of the reasons
why, like right now, we're closeto having to put my dog down and
he's getting snippy with the kids.
Same struggle, Same struggle. We're on the same thing.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Dylan's comparing the death of,
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you know, his dog, who's still alive.
I'm given given the explanation of how how my you.
Know exactly what my family's going through right now, bud.
Well, my dad did just go throughdouble bypass surgery and he's
dealing with. His own made him through like a
champ. Bro his dad's like the coolest
fucking you could. God I wish I had a dad.
Just any of them. Like how abusive would have
been. But yeah, no, I hit the lottery
with my parents. They're the greatest.
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But like, and so like I would talk about that.
But that's his personal thing. We've had talks about it and and
like me and him have talked about death since I was in my
teens. You know, it's one of those
things where it's not been something we don't talk about.
And I think that's another problem is people avoid the
discussion of death and being comfortable with it.
But what I was getting at was that in all of the religions and
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all the other things, like that's part of the reason they
exist at all, is to try and helppeople become OK with that
passing. And like, OK, back to the point.
Because now I understand where Iwas at before you were
criticizing me. Playfully joking with my with my
pal. Yeah, we're criticizing.
Sounds terrible. So we have to put my dog down
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and it's a situation where I don't want my kids to get hurt
because he's old and he's getting more ornery and like
snipped up a couple of us. And so I want to avoid my
daughter having trauma of like being bit by the dog.
So it's his time. He's 14 years old.
He's the oldest dog I've ever had.
And my wife is like all bent outof shape about it.
And I'm like, he's had 14 great years.
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He's enjoyed his life like, and he's he's still healthy enough
that you know you're going to besad about it.
He's not like, you know, we haveto carry him outside to go to
the bathroom. But I think that's like
undignified to take a dog to that level because you're going
to miss them, right? And so like Jess is like all
kinds of bent out of shape aboutit.
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And I'm just trying to explain to her that like, OK, you've got
say a week, you know you're going to put him down, spend
that time just loving the fuck out of him, right?
Make that last week the best week you can make.
It I'm getting more sad about a dog down right now.
Like I'm just like and like I, Ido.
I like him. You know, I'm not going to say
his name on the podcast out of respect.
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I like them. There's never been.
It's just like me and death man have always just not like the
biggest passing I've really had was an uncle.
Like I said, the the most, the the closest people in my life
aren't really that close to me. So if it's not my wife and my
children, I'm probably not goingto cry about it.
Now. This one might get me though,
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because literally my middle son was telling me last night and
that like he loves his grandpa. That's his, that's his, that's
his guy. Like he's a pop balls boy and
that's hard for a dad to say that a son is a pop balls boy
and just the fact that that's just going to be so rough for
him. That's what gets me.
And fuck, I don't know if I'm capable of that.
That's the shitty thing about being a parent too, is it
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doesn't matter if you're capableor not got fucking do it like
and to get him through that justthe best way possible.
But we, I mean, we've, we've talked about death and stuff.
So I think this is a good time for the podcast to go off the
rails because I'm tell people a theory that I've always thought
for a long time. So the offsets, you know, a
little bit about like my religious views is that, you
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know, I've, he's there, he's notgoing to intervene in your life.
There's no miracles happening because if you do a miracle, if
you save somebody from some situation that they, you know,
probably got themselves in, thatis not free will.
But also I think that this is the bad place.
Like, and it sounds really, I don't know, I maybe it's cliche
to say I don't hear a lot of people talking about it.
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But to tell me to sit there and say, hey, if you live your life
inappropriately, if, you know, fuck, if you have sex with a
girl before marriage, if you, you know, covet that neighbour's
ass, whatever that means. I mean, if my neighbour's got a
big old ass, like, what am I supposed to do?
Just like, hey, bro, we should work out together.
Look at that. Another gay joke.
Got it, got it. I got to put the fuel in the gay
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mic fire. But to tell me that, you know,
the ultimate punishment is burning in a lake of fire when
on earth you can watch your child slowly die of cancer,
doesn't compute. Because how can you go through
something that is more painful? Because I guarantee you, you go
into any place where, you know, there's terminally sick kids and
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you go up to a parent, say, hey,you know, your child will be OK
if you just burn like fire for all of eternity.
They take that deal right there.Done.
That's it. Not even a second thought.
So to tell me that there is a place other than this where
there's a ultimate punishment that's not as bad.
And then people are going to like, they're going to be like,
well, when they die, they get to, you know, go to heaven and
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everything's all happy. And I was just, I just, it
doesn't compute. You know, there's a lot of
there's a lot of holes in the story in the theory because once
you say, hey, like, I think honestly, I think the stories
are here for people to to just poke holes in like they're being
a creator. I don't believe that, you know,
The Big Bang theory makes sense.It was especially a lot of
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science coming out today saying right, how we don't fucking
know. I just think there's there's a
lot of holes in the theory and what better to like, say, Hey,
you know, there is an afterlife.You want to disprove that
there's an afterlife. We'll give you the story about
it that has, you know, as many holes of Swiss cheese and you
got to believe this or you're going to burn in hell.
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And then you give people something to prove.
If you say, hey, you know, there's a creator.
You know, we came from somethingthat's timeless and fucking
just. It doesn't, It doesn't.
A deity that doesn't fucking conform to, you know, physics
and time, which is so funny too,when people bring up science to,
like, disprove your creator. And I was like, yeah, that's
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really crazy. If that's what it takes to make
a fucking universe work. Have you ever made a universe?
So my theory is, is that all right?
If, you know, there's an afterlife, obviously it's
paradise. Or however we view it, it is
paradise. The thing about paradise is
though, if you come from a stateof constant paradise, you don't
fucking know that's paradise. You won't you you it doesn't
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matter who you are, how good of a place is if you've all and
it's kind of like what we talkedabout.
We're rich people. If you've always had it good,
then goods not good anymore. And maybe this is a place where
we come to be like, fuck, this sucks, like this, this sucks.
So we get back to that place. Or maybe, you know, we fucked up
and this is the place where we come to just, you know, spend
100 years. We like God this side and then
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we go back and fucking, but it just to tell me that like you
die and then you feel nothing. People like, well, you were born
and you feel nothing. I'm feeling well.
They kind of ruin it. If you were born with all the
men and you're like, I'm do all this differently.
I'm going to invest in Bitcoin. That's what I would do, man.
Fucking give me a time machine. Well, I think that's the hard
part with any of these discussions though, is like
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nobody knows for certain any of it.
And so my view on life in general is make the best of it.
Like I mean, you can, you can make the worst of it, which a
lot of people decide to do. They want to see the negative
and everything and want to just be like, oh man, this is tough.
And like, but those moments where like you meet your wife,
where you get to spend time withyour kids, like those are
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literally like, and I always thought that, you know, back in
my teens and 20s, like partying was fun and like all these
friends and all that stuff. And until I had my kids and
married my wife, like I was like, holy shit.
Like this is like drug free. Like the best fucking buzz I
could ever have. I'm not wasting all my time now
too. Yeah.
And, you know, and if you, it's really easy to look at it and be
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like, man, I got to, you know, do all this stuff to take care
of my family. And it is hard, but it's some of
the most fulfilling things that you've ever done.
Like it is those challenges. Like, so yeah, you're talking
about like billionaires and stuff.
If they actually give a shit about their family and their
kids, those struggles are still there.
And so they can still find joy and like fulfilment.
Now I make you not just a serialkiller, essentially.
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Like how do I make it where you don't go to ditty parties?
Because I mean, I'm going to tell you what, it's so weird
that and I guess this is like one of the problems with being
rich though, is that, I mean, nothing makes you have feelings.
So you'd hard to start doing weird nasty fucking shit.
Yeah. So I I think that's and.
You can push those boundaries because nobody's checking them
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like. Right, And y'all, y'all can feel
safe though if I ever get rich though, because I spent 32 years
being just got awful poor. So I have a long time to enjoy
before I would be like, huh, kids?
I don't know why all of them do that too.
They're just like, you know what?
I have all the money in the world.
I can do whatever I want. I'm gonna get a couple children.
We'll see. That's the thing that was like,
there's that weird affliction. Your grandpa had it and he was
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not a rich person. And like, so it's one of those
things where like people are just fucked like they're, and I
don't get why I I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't think it. I think it just, you know, it's
a, it's at a poverty line. Yeah, and and it's just the rich
do have a way of getting out of things.
They have money, they have power.
So they can do things that like if your grandpa had all the
money in the world and could buyoff some.
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He would have, he would have had, he would have had pop out.
I would have caught it. Pop all island.
Yeah, yeah. They'd be like, oh, you like
Papa Island? I'm like, no.
No. No, I mean, it's cool.
Like there's like water slides and stuff like that.
It's just like the pinky in yourbutt at the end of the day.
I'm just like, why is that a mission into the water park?
I don't understand. But I don't know, it's just it's
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so many weird things you think about.
And I feel like this is a weird podcast too, because it's hard
to be funny. I think it is.
But everybody goes through this and you are funny when you talk
about anything, but like everybody's going to go through
this at some point in their lifebecause.
We got to get Joe Rogan. Everybody dies.
One thing that I wanted to suggest to you, and I don't know
if you've watched it already, but there's The Midnight Gospel
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on Netflix. It's like a animated It's
actually a podcast and then theykind of wrote stories around it
and then animated it. And the last episode deals with
like his mother dying and he hadhis mother on the podcast and
they sat there and talked. Well, I don't think he like had
her on the podcast. I think they just recorded a
conversation. But like when I watched that,
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like, I mean, it was heartbreaking and also like
relieving at the same time. Like it, it kind of no theory is
100% correct, but there's a million ways to look at death
and you know, the saddest 1 is, you know, we die and nothing
happens. But also that isn't sad because
the person that is going throughthat suffering no longer has to
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go through that suffering so. I mean, there's a lot of
cultures that don't view death as a bad thing and I think a big
reason to why we have so much media and shit thrown at us to
say hey, death is a bad thing soyou better go to work for 8
hours. You better do everything that
you're supposed to do. Don't take any fucking risks.
You know what I'm saying? If.
Don't enjoy your life? Right.
If someone's holding you down, don't oppress or like if
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somebody's oppressed and you don't fight back because you
might die. And that's oh, that's super
spooky. I do think that's why death is
such a big thing in life, in life now, especially in fucking,
you know, first world countries where there's fucking, you know,
tribes that they're just like, yeah, you know, they fucking,
they went on man, like you fucking or they, they look at it
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in a in a more beautiful way where everybody, I mean, you
can't say this like with fuckinglike a mass shooting, third
people die. You can't be like how they've
all went and it's very beautiful.
You can't do that. There's tragedy and, you know,
life's taken and everything. And but I think in a lot of
circumstances like this, especially the circumstances
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around like someone's passing away, like, you know, I am
losing a son. It's been so hard for him to
deal with it. And now it's like worst case
scenario is he won't feel any pain physically or mentally, you
know, with the loss of a son or the health problems.
And low key, I don't want peopleto be like, oh, Mike, so
heartless, low key. That is a beautiful thing.
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Yeah, Dad, I cannot at all explain to my son like I can't
tell my son like that, you know what I'm saying?
Well, I think we should be happy, Pablo, Dad, because now.
And he's just like, what the fuck, bro?
Like, Dad's a fucking monster. Yeah, I would have to like work
him into the conversation. Well, I think that's what
religion tries to do is say thatoh guaranteed he was a good
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person. He, you know, accepted Jesus as
his Lord and Savior and so he's off sitting at the right hand
side of Jesus right now like. This is how many funerals where
they he was a man of God and I was like, did y'all know him?
Did y'all did y'all hang out with like my uncle dad?
They had this whole he was a manof God.
It was like 16 women there who had slept with bro.
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Like he was like he was, he was a free spirit, a free spirit man
and he was he was he was great too.
He was, he had definitely had some trauma from, you know, his
childhood and that had a lot to do with the lifestyle that he
lived. Drank a lot of beer, you know,
fucking. And my cousin, my cousin
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obviously has had a hard time dealing with his past.
And, and, you know, like she waslike, because she would always
bring up, you know, he wasn't perfect as a dad to like try to
make me feel better about it. And I'm like, listen, Saul, you
know everything where he came from and you know what he could
have been because any any dad that likes just, you know,
fucking bitches and drinking beer usually just don't stay
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around the kids at all. So he, you know, tried to what I
believe was the best of his ability to be a father.
It's like, why don't give my momso much hell?
Because the shit that she went through, literally, if others
went through it, you would not be where you're at.
Like, that is some fucking that that shit will make you fold.
Like it's rough shit. It'll take out right?
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Yeah, it'll, it'll fucking take you out.
And to to get through that and to be a, you know, because it
wasn't like my mom was just likebad all the time.
She was, you know, very uplifting mom.
She never worked, slept a lot. Like I said, she had her flaws,
but she was a very uplifting mom.
She wasn't the type that was like, you know, the world of
shit. She always told me that I could
be something, you know, she always, you know, fed into that
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when I was like, you know, I want to do this.
The big the biggest thing when Iwas a kid was I wanted to be an
architect and I always told my mom I'd build her a house made
of gold. That was a thing that we always
talked about when when I was a kid.
And then as I got into like middle school and high school, I
was wanting to be a lawyer, but I was also starting to like fuck
up and shit like that. So I was just by the time senior
year was coming, I was like, mom, I the Wendy's is like the
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best that you're going to get from me.
So I told you about the golden house.
I'm going to be I'm working at Wendy's.
See, that's the wild thing. It's like I did not want to be
in architecture, but I have no path.
Like, I was completely lost whenI was graduating and one of my
friends was going into architecture and I was like,
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yeah, I know how to do drafting.Sure.
That fucking hang out together. And then I think it like, I
don't want to blame it all on click, but click was one of
those like defining moments where I was just like I was
about. To talk about Click earlier,
Yeah, bro. Like when you were talking about
how sad that documentary is and I was like, that's good you told
me. Because then I'll go in thinking
that it's sad. So then I won't get sad because
I'll be like, this is like, it'slike seeing the horror movie
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monster. Are you talking about Midnight
Gospel? Yeah.
No, it's not sad. Yeah, but it was like, it's like
the last episode, right? Yeah, but you know how like the
monster in horror movie, if you show it, people would be like,
oh, that's not as scary as I thought it was.
Like, well, Blair Witch is so scary.
That's kind of how it is with mewith when someones like all this
movie is really, really sad. And then I see the sad and I'm
like oh this is not as sad as mybrain thought that this could
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possibly be set Click nailed it.Fucks me up every time.
Bro that's a scary movie that. That is legit a scary.
Movie man, when he is doing the thing for his father, I'm just
like, I'm sitting there. That one fucked me up.
Coco fucked me up. I wasn't expecting that.
In Coco, you know when fucking she remembers her dad.
They start singing about him, and then he starts.
She starts talking about her father.
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Oh, man, look, I'm getting choked up a little bit.
Coco Man. Yeah, no, that one's great just
because like the whole movie, you're you're kind of like, you
know, like, oh, that guy was a fuck up and he thinks he was
like a shit dad and like, right.But he still loves his daughter.
And then like as it goes on, you're like, oh, shit.
Like, no, he was just trying to do the best he could for his
family. And then he was like literally
murdered. Gonna go ahead and go home and
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say fuck you to the the tour andeverything and homie couldn't
take it and took him out but no.Onward got me too.
Sorry. Yeah, no onward.
Onward was great too. But like I think the thing with
click is like I should watch it again because it's I think it's
especially with social media andstaying in our phones and all
that stuff. It's one of those things where
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we're like fast forwarding life,like we are missing a lot of the
key moments that if you wiped everything away, TV, social
media, all that other stuff, like how much time would you be
spending with your kids, like outside and playing and doing
all the things that like really ultimately is going to define
their future. But right now, it's so easy to
just Fast forward, Fast forward.And even if like, you know, you
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want like you're OK with your kids being on be on technology
with them and they ain't going like I said, me and the kids we
this morning we spent playing grow a garden in Roblox.
My garden is fucking dope, bro. And like, I'll be showing these
kids what money can do because Idon't do that shit.
They they got time to grind, gottime to grind in a video game.
Like I can't be, I can't be getting all this equipment.
They'll be like, how'd you get that?
And I'll be like, oh, it was like a new thing.
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They give new players. Too bad you're not a new player
anymore because they would have gave you all that.
And they're like, fuck, man, that's real good.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I admire, admire it.
But but yeah, we do miss a lot of shit.
I don't know, man. It's it's hard.
It's just so hard being a which today I'm actually making
content. I haven't told you about this
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yet. So I was watching a video
Saturday night where this and itstarts off with one of these
ladies that is outside of a house.
She's done her own research. OK, so she knows and she's
warned in the public, OK about how dangerous puddle jumpers
are. This shit had like over a
million likes, so I don't even know how many views it had.
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But she was talking about like how puddle jumpers are dangerous
because the way it holds a childand they're like, they're
acceptable to drowning and shit like that.
And I'm like my kids, like I love puddle jumpers.
What is a puddle jumper? So it's like it goes on your
arms. It's like a vest, OK.
And so it's essentially a life jacket, but it goes around your
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arms like floaties does, and then has this middle thing that
floats too. And then it connects in the
back. And she was talking about some
dumb shit about how it's designed will make you go
underwater. And I'm like, bro, the huddle
jumpers have never caused a child to drown ever.
There's not a device that has ever been made that has caused
the child to drown. Do you know why children
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drowned? Because of unattentive parents.
That's it. That's all it is.
At the end of the day, if your child drowns in some kind of
flotation device, that is because a parent put them in.
There was like, oh, I can step away now or I can talk to this
person. I could be on my phone.
Water is one of the biggest killers on earth.
Water is fucking dangerous. If you are at a body of water,
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there is nothing that anybody can invent.
They can invent the safest fucking thing to be on water if
you are not paying attention. A child is a thinking little
little gremlin man that is always trying to get out of
shit, trying to fucking move, trying to, you know, pull shit
off the the only thing they could invent to circumvent
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children die or, you know, drowning in a flotation device
is something for the parents to be more fucking attentive to
them. See, I like and I agree that it
is the attentiveness, but that you're talking about a little
gremlin that can open a door andgo out to a pool.
That's one of the reasons why wedon't put any floaties on my
daughter is because like if you give them the false sense of
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security that they can swim and then they break out or they
break free, it only takes moments for a kid to drown.
And so if they think that they can get in the water and float,
but they haven't been trained onhow to swim.
Like that's one of the things with like the infant swimming
classes and stuff, which, you know, once again, I like, I
think it's kind of traumatic. I mean, I imagine it works well
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for some kids, but basically they're like drowning a kid with
drowning to get them to learn how to swim, which is great if
you have a pool and you really need that.
But like with my daughter, like I want to just teach her how to
swim. She's getting older and getting
to the point where she can swim.But if we had a pool and we had
her in floaties and so she thinks she can swim even though
she's not able to swim without the floaties on, it just creates
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that full sense of security. So they'll go and run and jump
into a pool and it only takes moments before that kids gone.
And so I agree, it's ultimately all on the parents to make sure
that you're watching your kid and having the safeguards in
place. But those moments can happen
like that. And so I'm not saying that those
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things caused any drowning or anything like that, but giving a
kid the ability to think that they can swim when they can't
swim is dangerous as well. I don't I don't know why you
would tell this more applies to like children that are not of
the, you know, associating a youknow what I'm saying?
Like they're not talking to you about fucking deep shit and
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stuff like that. Because like I said, I used all
my kids used puddle jumpers and then I teach them how to swim.
So we're going right through that right now with my middle
son. The only thing is he has you
seen him, he has no fat on his body at all, which makes it
you're less buoyant. So you just fucking think.
But you know, unfortunately there was a lady on TikTok whose
child I guess went to the like the back door some shit and what
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jumped to swimming pool and passed away.
And it's very, very sad. But I understand it's sad and
that's unfortunate. And you can give encouraging
words, but don't fucking get like I've seen so many videos of
like the parents, like a photo of them.
And then it's like the Robin Williams, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault. Then whose fucking fault is it?
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The kids? Like, yeah, fucking that, that
was his fault. That little 3 year old just
fucking ran out. It's just I that doesn't compete
with me. I understand being a parent is
hard. There's times where you're
tired, but fucking giving leewayon that is the same as giving
leeway on leaving a kid in a hotcar.
If you cannot, if there's a partof you that thinks, oh man, I'm
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gonna be too tired at any point to make sure that this fucking
being right here is anything butokay.
Don't have kids. Don't have kids.
Like if if puddle like she's saying puddle jumpers kill
people would be the same as me saying, well, because my kid
doesn't say, Hey, check your back seat for your child, which
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cars do now because people have kids that should not have kids.
But it says check. Then Kia killed my kid because I
left it in the car. You know, why didn't they come
out with kids out here killing children?
Because they're not putting to check your backseat.
I love the one that's like, you know, put your shoe in the
backseat so you don't forget your kid because then you only
have one shoe on. Who's going to remember to put
their shoe in? Well that's my kid man, but my
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Jordan's in the fucking backseatbro.
Like I can't leave my Jordan there.
But if you're not going to remember your kid, you're not
going to remember to take your shoe off and put it in the
backseat like that. That also takes mental
processing, so I. Watched the documentary about
this preacher and he had left his child in the back seat and
the child passed away and he waslike, you know, I'm just, I'm
using as a, as a positive thing.I'm like, you should be in
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prison, like you should not, this should not be a positive
thing for anybody. You there's no fucking there's
no a child has no say so in its life all right for one didn't
ask to be here, OK can't fuckingdefend itself take care of
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itself. Look after itself.
Do nothing not safe at all. The parent is solely responsible
for the child getting through. So I'll give you a good example.
We're at the lake on Sunday after the birthday party, which
was kind of cold. And like I said, middle child
made a whole fit about it. But my daughter, you know, she
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has asthma. So she was like, Oh, I need my
inhaler. And I was like, oh, it's in the
car. I have to go get it.
So we all got to get out of the water.
And she was like, oh, I'll just watch him.
You know, he's in a puddle jump too.
And I was like, no, what? No, And she was like, well,
can't we play in the shallow part?
No, no, because like I said, if shit goes wrong, there's one
mother fucker I can rely on to handle shit.
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That's me. I'm not putting that
responsibility in another person's hands.
My kids are not allowed to go swimming without me.
That's a, like I said, if it's, I would be more comfortable with
them going to an amusement park without me then going to a body
of water. Like people just don't, they
don't understand water is, you know, seen as this thing of fun.
And that is a problem with like little kids because they see
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water, they just want to jump in.
Like if a, if a little kid goes missing, that's the first thing
you do is go check the lakes, Gofucking guard the lakes because
that's where the fuck they're going to.
Every time there's a little kid missing, unfortunately they're
found in the body of water. And that's because like
everybody water so fat water is like the deadliest fuck.
People talk about deadly substances, acid, all this crazy
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shit. Toxic water is fucking
dangerous. Like it is dangerous, but I
don't know. Do they have a lifeguard of that
swimming hole that you guys go to?
No, no, no lifeguard. Both of them have no lifeguard
on this. A lake?
Well, yeah, but I guess during the summertime they might have
one out there, like when it's like real deep in summer.
So it's free, just go there and go swimming.
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Yeah, yeah, it's 24 hours too. 24 hours you can go out there at
night. Just go fucking swimming.
Oh, that's well, I fucking I love, I love a lake.
Amy's like, oh. So we've got a membership.
Scared of lake water getting on you Kitty?
Go go into a fucking public swimming pool and have that shit
fried by the chlorine and kid pee and shit.
Well. That's one of the things I was
telling Mike about it. Living Mind is Mark Rober did a
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episode on why pools smell the way that they do and it
technically if there's just chlorine in the water until you
add urine it does not smell likea normal pool.
But the second that you add urine to that pool water, then
it smells like chlorine and smells like a pool.
So technically, without any urine in the water, the pool
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does not smell like the pool. That's, that's wild, man.
Because they all smell like realbad chlorine to me, man.
So that means they're just just.But I mean, when I get in the
lake, that's like the first thing I do.
Is pee in the lake? Yeah, I'll even jerk around with
the kids you got. You guys want to feel a warm
spot right here? Now we're in the lake too, so I
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won't take 3 kids if it's just me.
If it's me and Amy will take alltheir kids.
But I have both of them and we can be kind of a part kind of
like, you know, middle son stillin the, the puddle jumper and
which I, I tell my daughter, youknow, I'm like, you have to be
because she can swim, but you have to be where you can stand
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if I'm dealing with him, becauseif you go underwater in a lake,
I cannot see you. What we went through like the
whole like drowning protocol andstuff like that.
If you're drowning, the first thing you, you do, if you can
get your head above water is scream as loud as you can.
That's it. Just scream as loud as you don't
be worried about saying help or anything like that.
Now, if there's something wrong and you can't scream and you're
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at a part where you can, you canfeel the bottom and you can
stick your stick, your hands outof the water because it is just
in, in the ocean. It's really hard to see you too.
Yeah. What's so funny?
And it's not funny. Like I said, none of the stuff
is funny. And I'm not being like, oh, you
know, you're I'm saying fucking be accountable, man.
Like these little kids are they have our lives are in their
hands. If something happens to them,
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they're in no way, shape or form.
Can we said like there's freak things that happen.
There are, which you know, is why we get warning labels on
stuff because we didn't see thatas a thing.
But now we got the warning labels and shit.
Everything you should, you should be able to see shit
coming. But when we took my daughter to
the first time to the the beach,she's 2 years old and she had
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one of the we had a leash. We had her on a leash because
listen, like I said, at the ocean, especially at Myrtle
Beach shows a mass unit there onlike Saturday or Sunday.
Well, a fun fact, not so fun fact, but we had her on a leash
because if you get hit with a wave, like you can't see where
the yeah, yeah, you get pulled too.
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So it's impossible to tell. And I like we had, you know, her
on a leash. I'm like, we look.
So yeah. And it was probably towards the
end of summer, little child was walking with her mom and got hit
with a wave and passed away. And I was just like, well, I'd
much rather look corny than haveyou did so every day of the
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week, every day of the week. So this is gonna be a rough
episode to get through, especially if you don't like
talking about death and dying. And I'm sorry I gave this
warning at the end and you just have to listen to all of it.
But. Next episode, we'll continue
with our hopefully, you know, regular funny.
Light hearted? Not so.
Not so deep unless know what youthink about the deep stuff.
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