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Bear them. Bow down.
Mike and Dylan hate drama. Wow.
Wow, are we rolling? We're rolling.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to Mike and Dylan.
Hate, Hate drama, where we talk about life, we give advice, we
talk about conspiracies, Men's mental health, which is today's
episode. Oh my God, it's been a while.
It's been a minute since we've started.

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It yes, it has been a minute. So for people that don't know,
when we report podcasts, we usually report a couple at a
time to, you know, save time, beefficient.
That's something that you have taught me before I met Dylan, I
was not efficient. Would you say that as a true
statement? Oh yeah, I mean, Mark Bovich
wouldn't determine that was not a lie.
OK, yeah, except for, you know, determining that's not a lie.

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I'm not one of those women. Which classes told you I told
you that? Or I'll talk about the ones that
cry and they take off running inthe back, which if you know,
there's a chance, how do they get people for that show?
That's I was always curious how they got people for Maury and
especially Jerry Springer. I think they.
Paid him I think a lot of that was theatrics like I don't think

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it was all legitimately 100% real, but then there's also the
people that would just be like Ineed to be on Springer.
Why we go? Why?
Why? Why we won't that's.
What I'm saying like, how's the other spouse?
Not like baby, Why are we going on Springer tomorrow?
It's just like, this is going tobe the episode.
For the most romantic backyard trailer wedding.
They had to do that because it was all some crazy shit.

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Like he'd go to his wife and be like, hey, babe, why?
Why are we going to the Jerry Springer tomorrow?
And she'll be like, because I'vegot something important to tell
you. I'm not actually a woman.
And then he's like, what? Like, yeah, he's like, that
explains the Dick and balls and it's always on some crazy.
And then be like, well also too,I've been having sex with your

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brother. They got so many stories backed
up that. It's just, it's preposterous.
Well, that was where I first learned about the whole like big
girl and like little guy. That combo that was always under
a sprayer where it's like a big,big girl.
When you saw when you saw a flopper sitting down in that
chair, he was like some skinny man that's about to come out
from. Backstage.
But not just one, like three of them.

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They're gonna fight each other like.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man.
Like how fucking good were they They're.
Gonna like run around her like catch up like ring around the
Rosie trying to get her get to it.
Right, so back to the original. So, you know, Mike's not
efficient. So what we do is we'll afford a
couple of these at a time. Well, Dylan went on.
Vacation. Yeah.

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Vacation. Yeah, I mean it.
Technically it was a vacation, but more so it was a reunion.
And it was just an excuse to like go do something because we
haven't taken the kids to the beach or anything for years
since I was like, we should at least like go do something
summer before. But he is referring to like
areas of each, which everybody in Ohio does too.

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So like, I mean, there's, I would say some of those beaches
up there are substantially better, but it's.
Crazy you go there, like especially in Ohio, you can just
like boat across to Canada. Like 30 miles you.
Know that's wild and just fucking all of a sudden you're a
Maple syrup drinking moose rider.
I like to come up with slurs forthe countries, like Canada ain't

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really got slurs and I need them.
But like, I mean really, they like nasal syrup.
Like to where? Yeah, but you think about Canada
when you think about Maple. Syrup Canadians like the
climate, but I mean, it's like. Like I think if you say anything
with enough anger though at turnlike the like syrup breaking
loose. Right, Yeah, but like that's not
a slur to me. That's like that's a pride thing

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when I, I don't think I've told it on this podcast, but when my,
one of my buddies that I went upand saw for his 7th birthday, we
went around and his birthday's in March and that's maybe syrup
time, for instance. 7 year old. When I was 70.
OK, that's OK. He one of my buddies.
He was 7th birthday. Yeah, for his 7th birthday
party, we we went around and collected sack.

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Like you take the you should drill a hole in the tree, put
the little tab in there and thenyou hang a bucket on there.
And then every day you go by anddump the buckets.
You get like a gallon bucket of SAP and then you take that and
you boil it down and make it in the syrup.
But like. You get to keep syrup.
I mean, I didn't. Mean to keep the syrup.
I got syrup sometimes, but like what we what the point that I

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was getting to was like that theSAP is basically just like
water, but when you drink it, ittastes like Maple water.
And so that's what I was doing for a birthday party at 7.
Like so Maple surf is big anywhere up north where it gets
really cold at night and then warms up during the day and sad
grounds when you get to drink Maple surf water.

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So a couple trains of thought. This is Mike and Dylan hate
Drum. We're going to get onto the
subject in a minute. OK, for the for the new people,
that's like Jesus. Christ Intro.
I clicked on this to feel betterabout myself.
You will. OK, we.
Will we will cure your feel better because you.
Aren't like us, right? Yeah, You're going to be like
Jesus, like I at least I can keep a train of thought.
But while you were telling that story, it did start off with you

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saying, well, I, you know, I would take that as a sense of
pride. I thought you were going to go
into like, some story about like, what people call me
crackers. I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I was like, oh, I thought that was going to a different.
Place I was like maybe. Steer clear of the, the, the big
racism. And then the second train of
thought was the story that that one guy told he's black and for

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a field trip they went to go pick cop and it was like.
Black. And then and then the place kept
the cop too, which makes it double like that.
That really. To keep the cop.
Right. That really said in the racism,
like you got, you know, white schools, black schools, you
know, a mixture school coming in, picking the cotton and they
get to keep it. I feel pretty good about that

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story overall. Oh, it's a good learning lesson,
I guess if it's an if it's an all black school and then you
get to keep you don't even let them have the cotton then in the
fucking part where he did. They teach them stalls what's
thing while they're doing too? That would be fun, Yeah.
And you want to use a deep, deepbass in your.

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Oh, yeah, when you're singing the songs and they're doing
that. And then the guy who always.
Make that even more racist. But.
Look, one thing that I noticed while I was up there though is
like, because, you know, some ofour listeners have commented on
me being a damn Yankee and all that stuff.
And the thing that I really realized though, is it doesn't
matter where you're from, north-south, anything like that.

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It's the thing that people really are trying to talk about
is city people versus country people.
Because like everywhere that I went, it was like, it's country.
It's just like small town folk. And so like, it doesn't matter
whether I'm from New York or fucking California for that
matter, because it's more so if you're like somebody who knows
what it's like to be a normal person or somebody that's like

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all pretentious. And and like it's not no shit
talking against people that havelike a normal office job.
But if you have the mentality oflike the city person that like
thinks like milk comes from a factory and that doesn't
understand that like a cow has to die.
Those are the people that are problems that when they're
talking about like Yankees, someright.

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It's like people from New York City that have never seen a
fucking blade of grass that isn't in a park.
Right. Go to Charlotte.
And I mean, it does. It feels like every single big
city that you go to now did in home delivery and I went to
Detroit. That is the.
Yeah. That's the only place where I'm
like, I bet people who work in Detroit, they have a good sense

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of, you know, how people live because you literally got to go
through a third world country toget to Detroit.
I was driving through and I was just like, wow, are we?
Because it was, was there like some sort of like.
Catastrophe that happened? No.
That's just, it was 2011 after the tornado outbreak.
So we went through, you know, like Alabama and Mississippi and
all that stuff. Or it might not have been
necessarily. Tennessee.
There we go. I am bro.

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My geography is wildly inaccurate.
So it was Alabama and Tennessee and they were fucked up.
Like there was some places Alabama that you could just when
we got out of the when we got out of the truck, we just looked
and it's just like flat and we literally pulled up to a house
that was not well. It was half of the house, this
one. They were not like everybody

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else. 1/2 of the house built real well, the other half not
built so well and he was just like yeah fucking we can take
that right now. We ordered.
It but there there was this thing that happened the we can't
really know where to put it, butit's going to be safe.
So maybe, maybe it's take that back and put it.
So the the guy used to do in home deliveries.
Well, he's my sister in law's father, my middle brother, his

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wife, her dad and easels like oh, you know, I understand the
other guys like real polite about too.
And they get in the car and straight going down the road
proceed to talk so much shit about this guy.
Now we're going to have to go around that fucking thing every
time. That big ass fucking couch every
time. Because it was one of the
couches that also had like the. Yeah, the.

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They eject out like a fucking recliner.
Yeah, recliner couches. So it was.
I thought you were looking for like a like a sofa bed or
something like that, but you're just talking about a fucking
recliner. It was big though.
It was. It was a pretty big.
I know when we were like, I'm not an expert on furniture from
the because what's funny is I did it for like, you know, three
or four months and then when I got with Amy, I did it again for

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like 3 or 4 months. So All in all, I got like 6 to 8
months of experience in all the liberty I need to, I need to.
But I know the feeling when you pick up a couch is a lot
different than when you pick up a couch that's full of metal
because 1, you just be like, fuck, I'm strong.
When I started doing it, I was like, it's going to be easy too
because you know, I'm a big guy.Like furniture, don't waste

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shit. The like the first two
deliveries we did fucking easy. 1 is like a table on chairs.
And then, you know, once it's sofun, I'm like, yeah.
Then I grabbed one of those sodas with the recliner things
in it and was like, Jesus Christ, I hope we ain't got
another one of those. And they're like all like the
most popular. Yeah, that's everybody.
And I'll like Jesus. Well, that's the crazy thing.
Even worse than those is the ones that are very popular now

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are the ones with the electronics in there.
But he was there. Yeah, those ones are so much.
If you do not imagine that you're Darth Vader rising up
like when you do the the ones that rise all the way to your
feet. Yeah.
And you're just like slowly going up.
If you don't imagine that you'reyou're Darth Vader.
I just don't think you're reallyhuman.
It should have like theme songs that you can play while it's

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doing that so. Today's topic is you know, men's
mental health and getting a break from your job because
brother, I don't know if you know this.
Vacations, no matter how brave and long, do not feel like they
are long enough. Well, not with this one here.

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We left out on two. No no we left Wednesday.
I finished everything up for this on Tuesday.
Left out Wednesday at like 6 O clock in the morning.
Got to New York about 4:00 PM and then from there it was just
like run the whole time until Sunday morning.

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Left back out at 7:00 in the morning.
And yeah, no matter how long it like, I as a poor person, don't
know what it's like to go on vacation where you're like, I
need to ready to get back to holiday.
I'm ready to get back to work. And then I remember, I think I
was around 23, I had energy. Good, bad, good news, you know.
I was prime. It's so funny.

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You hear, you know, people say, man, you you'll, you'll long for
the days you felt like this and you're like, shut the fuck up
and you're like, fuck back. I was I felt nothing.
I would feel refreshed and then I would go back immediately into
a 110° factory and work for 12 hours and be like, I do this
everyday. Fuck me.
It's always, it's always the worst.

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And I feel like as you know, especially guys, because we tend
to have the harder jobs. I'm not sitting here saying.
Physically, yeah, physically andand sometimes mentally, but
yeah, not emotionally. Like that's the thing at work,
two different types of animals like women deal with a lot more
of the emotional side of work like working in.
Yeah, we don't have to get us upand include women in our

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conversations, OK, We get we letone of the women podcasters talk
about women struggles, right? I'm talking.
About We have a request from somebody that wanted to talk
about the subjugation and fetishization of Asian and black
men that that wanted to be your guest on.
Our Is that a thing? And they want to be on our show.

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And I was like. What they want to be wait.
Yeah, they they're they're like,they'd be a perfect person.
The. Fetishization of black women and
Asian women. Well, one weeps all right.
That's that's that's why Asian women.
I mean, if you if there's a guy who's got a neckbeard and watch
the anime, his dream wife is a yeah Asian woman.
But I think. I think really with anything, I

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mean, and this is what I always talk to my wife and daughter
about is like it's whatever. Like isn't your thing.
Like so if a woman has like straight hair, they want curly
hair. If they, if they've got like big
boobs, they want little boobs. Like vice versa.
But like, I think with guys, like if you have been surrounded
by a bunch of white women, you like different other ethnicities

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as like that's the one that's out of the ordinary.
But with, you know, like if you grew up in a black neighborhood
and most of the women that you dated were black, you would then
want a Latino woman or an Asian woman or something like that.
And so like I do understand likewhere fetishism I would rather
like imagine. How niche that is, like we'll
get all the people in our base. I'm sorry, we're going a lot of

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us are, you know, blue collar guys and then women just, I
don't know. I don't know what the
demographic of the, the women are.
We're not a we look at the demographics to see who likes
us. We just kind of do our own
thing. It's like a podcast.
Be more telling to see the people that have turned us off.
That would be. Like right life together those

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people life together have a goodfinancial strategy for their for
aging and. For you.
No, it was like we get a lot of people been diagnosed with Bob
Bowler. That's a, you know, a good
commonality between everybody. Yeah, I got a little bit of the
tism, a lot of the ADHD, like they're able to keep up with the
rap, rap, fire changing of the. Of the three or four subjects

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away from where we're starting. This topic I always man, I'll
I'll we sit here and I'm like, this is something I would like
to talk about. Like as soon as we sit down and
talk I'm like fuck, I'm talking with my friends and now it's all
like I'm talking with my friend and I would just get.
All I think place, I think at some point we're probably going
to get to the point where we'll have like bullet points of like
this is the conversation we're going to.
We're just not there. We're not there.

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I think, I think here's the thing, I don't think this
podcast necessarily needs a direction.
I think the direction is good for appealing to people.
Like if you're like, oh, you know, I want to build a true
crime people, or I like true crime, which I think you're gay
if you do that. OK, look, the only reason true
crime people do true crime is tomake money.

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Nobody's doing it for look, I'm saying nobody's doing it for the
victim. No one's because that's always
their like rebuttal is that they're doing it for the victim.
But imagine they're. Doing it for entertainment.
And like, honestly, it's, it's kind of like, you know,
cigarette sales or something like, yes, the cigarette
companies are equal, but there'sa fucking market for it.

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And like with the true crime, especially women, but like they
love the fuck out of the story. We can just sell out.
Why don't we do that? Why don't we do that?
We can start like this real TrueCrown podcast, OK?
And then only people from Mike and Dylan hate drama know that
we started that just to make money off of women.

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And in that too, we could preachabout, you know, how that would
be really good because then we could preach about like how, you
know, strong women are and how they deserve so much.
We can talk about pay gap and all that stuff and how you need
to really respect a woman's feelings and just kind of not
like that. And then all this will be like,
yeah, the last episode we're talking about fucking.
Oh, look at the pay gap, bro. They were eating it up.
All common. I was.

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I was. Listening to the bonus episode
all the way in because I finallyfigured out how to get it on the
Patreon. I don't know if this is the way
it's going to end up at the end of it, but like I got it on
there. So I was listening to it just to
see how it plays out. And then you brought up like
when your wife I got. Shorts keep talking.
When your wife has been like sweating and walking around for
like 2 hours or two miles and you're like, oh, varination, let

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me taste that flavor and like, you know, just thinking like
that plane after year one. Because like I mean.
In all those topics we we do feel that way about, like women,
you know, Big Short. Yeah, like equal.
But yeah, also like, you know, like take some Marlon.
Eat at the like we're. Guys.
Yeah, we're going to fucking. Eat at the Y after she took a 2.

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Mile, you know. Were we talking about something
really sympathetic before? Well, you would you would just
mentioned like doing talking about all the Super, super,
super. Lefty subjects, well, I mean, I
think that's good though. Look at pandering.
That's what I hate, Yeah. People just pander too fucking
much and I wish we could really get our pandering on because

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fuck, like yeah, me and Dylan's like we don't, we don't ever pan
there and we stick to our guns and then.
But we are. We're so poor.
Yeah, so poor. But.
Maybe that's why I think we'll. Pan there.
What's really funny too is we'reactually in the process of
starting a horror, and it's justbecause I like to write little

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stories and shit like that is. This another one because like we
started with like a villain, hey, drama, and then it's like
another 1-2 daddies. Well, this is not a.
Popular one, I mean, it's going to, it's not a podcast, but it
is a story based long form. So it's it, it will be on the
podcast platforms. We were like, we need something
that makes money and look, Dylan's really good at just

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coming up with the ideas. I just find them, I stumble
across them and it's like serendipitous.
Because he was like, hey, what if we did like, you know, he was
like, I was looking at this fucking faceless YouTube channel
that told scary stories. And he was like, we did that.
And I was just like, we could because I like to write all
mobile scary stories. So it's gonna have a scary story
with it, with a poem. I'll let you guys know the name
of the YouTube channel next weekbecause we have not I assume.

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The. One or two podcasts from now
should be up. I think that one's pretty
interesting because we can do the videos on YouTube and then I
see it as a podcast that's just like, we're not going to post
the videos, we're just going to do audio only podcasting so that
people can listen to it back-to-back to back as.

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What the scary stories? Scary stories, man.
That's, like I said, more targeted towards the sisters.
I don't want people, Wolf, you know, I don't want people going
in thinking they're about to watch the epitome of fucking.
Yeah, it's going to be the audioonly versions are going to go on
to your pockets just because like, oh, OK, that's literally

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where always do you. Think anybody would listen to
it? That's where I found it, the
originals that like I, I came like I was looking at podcasts
and Spotify just to like find something else to listen to
because I always listen to little super educational ones
like Andrew Heberman, the Heberman laugh podcast, like
stuff like that. And so when I was looking for
the next thing that I wanted to listen to 1 was like scary

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stories. And I was like, oh, that sounds
interesting. Like what's it about?
And I looked at it and it's got like 41,000 reviews and you
know, tons of episodes that. And then from there I went to
Blank Tree and then found the rest of the stuff.
And so then they've got, you know, their YouTube channel, but
then they have, you know, Instagram and TikTok and all the
rest of the stuff where they so essentially what?

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We're going to be doing on this one is I am going to write a
scary story and then I will be doing a little bit like a poem
in the episode and they're goingto be playing 10 minute long.
What's good about it too, is I'mspeaking in spooky voice.
MM loves to do voices. You know and.
They know. That.
Well, yeah, they know that. And I think that doing it that

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way, because you can ask Dylan, look, my stories might not be
completely original, especially if I come up with one just like
right off the top of the head. I don't know if you know this,
but those stories. Look good, right Yeah, so but I
am able to come up with like unique stories and I feel like
this is something that does really hit upon like it's like
all levels of Mike in this like I could fucking coming up with,

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you know, just goofy fantasticalstories except for now it
involves a lot of death and dying easy transition for me.
So I did I did enjoy the idea ofthis and it is a thing, man,
just like young people really love these fucking horror
stories and it's I would say some true crime people like it
too. So it's kind of tapping into
both markets and I don't have tosell out.

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Talk about somebody's, you know,5 year old daughter getting
brutally murdered, to which I amgoing to go into excruciating
detail. I hope you ain't the following.
Podcast. Mike and Dylan Mike and Dylan
love true crime. Watch it now on Spotify.
But yeah, I think ultimately that goes back to like the
situation where this whole started with is like taking time

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off of work and all that stuff is, yeah, we we kind of do have
a creative outlet where we get to do this cool stuff, but we
still have to like provide for our families.
So we end up working crazy hoursdoing all this and trying to
figure out. It's so much flip flopping too
because when you have these ideas, especially non niched

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ideas, Mike and Dylan hate drama.
The podcast is not niched. 2 Daddies Judge baddies is niched
but I don't think people know what we do just from the name 2
daddies judge baddies. You could stumble upon that
podcast and be like, that has something to do with talk about
women's asses. Oh, yeah, no, I, I, when you
launched the name, when you saidit to me, I was like, is this

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like an only fan's like. Yeah, you should have been like,
hey, turd, how about Mike and Dylan?
Mike and Dylan love Redditors, and you're like, you'd love it,
right? Can we change the name to a
podcast? Yeah.
We can, yeah. I think we do need to change it
though because two daddies judgea bad.
He's like, I don't know. I don't know if anybody
associates that with Reddit. See, we're going to end up
changing the name of that podcast like 4 to 2 times

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because you're like, you know what?
Like we changed it the first time and like, I think I got a
better one. And so we're just going to keep
changing. I don't think we're going to
change it. I think we should just.
I think that I think it is everybody that I told the name
to that I've like spoken to anybody that's been honest with
me. Like, are you like judging,
judging women? Like what?
Like what what is this? And like 2 daddies are you like

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is this like a sexual like type of no?
No, just read and write stories.How the fuck do we tell
everybody we changed our name though?
Nobody. Gives a fuck dude.
Do you think so? Nobody gives a fuck.
All right, so I think we just turned change it to Mike and
Dylan love Reddit because then. What's Mike and Dylan?
Mike and Dylan. Mike and Dylan hate drama is a
lot. And then anytime somebody types
in Mike and Dylan going out, I found another. 1:00 And then

(23:11):
once we come up with our eventual third podcast, Mike and
Dylan love horror or whatever, Mike and Dylan like love movies.
Mike and Dylan hate this. Then we can. 42 podcasts.
And I do enjoy this one being more of like, can we get?
Another Mic and another Dylan and keep the enterprise.
Holy fuck. Like Smosh, but no one's name
Smosh. It's just name Smosh.

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And we just have Mike and Dylan.Yeah.
And it's just always. We could have an Asian Mike and
Dylan, Black Mike and Dylan. We could change Mike and.
Dylan do not. Finish I'm fetishizing fetish
fetish fetish how? Fetish.
Just start. The look, I'm sorry guys, and
your mental health, it's not going to get soft the best.
Part is all like ruse. Yeah, it was a ruse to get you

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here. Now all of you people who are
here like, oh fuck, I'm so depressed.
You got to stay depressed and then question how fetishes are
made. But how?
Like how do people fetish that stuff?
I think I think in normal thing like fetish is such a strong
word. Like I think there are people
that really have like weird fucking kinks and fetishes, but
I think I think being attracted to certain things isn't really a

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fetish. Well, really think about it
though, like boobs and ass, OK, I don't know if it took years of
like us pointing out those things because if you remember,
there's like a fucking, there's an early, there's an early 2000s
movie. I don't know what it is.
I wish if somebody knows, if youknow the name of this little
comment down, you know what the what the name of the movie is.

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But it's a guy. He's sitting there like reading
the newspaper or something like that, and a girl's washing
dishes and he looks over at her ass and he's like, that is a
genetically superior ass. And she does not have one at
all. There is no ass there.
And I remember girls, would you know that used to be a thing.
Is my butt too big now? You want a fatty bro?
Like it's, it's so crazy though,because like, I mean, I love the

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mindset that like, you know, it has to at least look like it's
possible that it could be natural, like it can't.
Just be like, yeah, we're not talking about like BBLS.
But that's like, I've seen so many women with like this, this
fucking like shelf of A and I'm like who?
Do you know who MU 2 is from Pokémon?
Yeah, that's what they call it the because you know that it's

(25:21):
fake If they got the MU two. Look, I'm gonna pull up my phone
real quick so I could show you MU 2.
I wish Jamie pulled it up. How?
That would be so dope, Scott. Yeah, Scott's listened.
Scott listened to all these episodes on his way up to
Michigan and he keeps 2 daddies.2 daddies mostly, but.
Found a real good I'm just goingto get on the images so I can

(25:43):
scroll through the mew 2 photos but mew 2 hips man Yeah that's
the that's the BBL look right there you know it's fake if
they're if they're rocking that shit right there if you don't
know who me too is listen then yeah look it up and laugh along
I just have this wide variety ofknowledge about all these
different things that. I mean, it's Pokémon.

(26:04):
You're you're very. Like I can't, but I can't start
a Pokémon podcast. That's what sucks so bad too, is
a lot of like my hobbies. What people start podcasts off
of, you know, things that they really love.
I can't be on there because trading card games, Pokémon, all
this is advertised to children. And then they get on there and
I'll be like, you know, fucking,you know, God damn, they're,
they're trying to bring this allfucking down.

(26:26):
And it's like, how did mine turnon?
He was talking about Team Rocketand their plans of stealing
Pokémon. And then he, he somehow got on
to the government and we don't know how this has happened, but
it's just like some 10 year old just sitting there and just
like, you know, And then if listening and his mom walks in
and all she hears on the radios,if she, if she's, if she's ran
them out that season into because I can't stop myself from
talking about these things. The only 18 plus Pokémon

(26:50):
podcast, right? Yeah, just that's my niche.
If you guys want to hear 5 minutes of Pokémon which is
usually during the intro and then an hour and 25 minutes. 5
minutes of like leaning into like hey, this is what we're
going to talk about and then never back to that ever again.
Yeah, I feel so bad because I was like mental health and going
on vacation and stuff like, but what a look, I get it.

(27:13):
When was the last vacation you took?
Two years ago, I went to the beach.
And what's so funny, too, is when I go on vacation, my wife
will have like a list of things she wants to do.
And I'm like, lame. That is lame.
Everything you've mentioned is lame.
These are the things I want to do.
And then what's so funny is like, I'll do.
Things you wanted to do? I don't really know, like go to

(27:35):
this go Kart place. So we go to the go Kart place,
The thing I want to do and it's just, you know, it's in a
popular town. So they're like you $30.
You get to ride the go Kart around the track twice, 10
minutes fun. And then my wife is just like
I've planned things out to whereit is free things you can do all
day. And so we finally started doing
the things she wants to do at the end of the vacation because

(27:56):
I've like, I got all these things and normally she controls
the. Vacation.
So I was like, oh, I'm going. To take over on this one, she's
like, all right, And then we do the thing she wants to do and
it's wildly more fun. And I'm like, oh, this is how
memories are made and. Well, it was.
It was fun going around the. Course twice, right?
Yeah, we went. Up and then we went down and
then we went around and then we went up and went down and

(28:17):
memories. That's 30 bucks or 150 bucks to
get the whole family to shoot. No, that's I'm I'm very much
similar to your way. Like I'm so cheap that like and
I know that if you just we don'tlike.
It'll be an easy transition whenwe divorce our wives then, yeah.
I'll just take over here. Spot.
Yeah, OK. But like when we went up to New

(28:39):
York, we went to like 4 different beaches, then it cost
a dime. We went out to eat a couple
places. Eating near the beach.
Terrible. Just because it's like, here's
this basic kind of sandwich for $15.00 that you should only be
spending about $7.00 I thought you were talking about.
Picnic, right? Picnics are never fine.
Picnics are the weather feels way worse than I thought it

(29:02):
would in my mind and I could find no comfortable position on
the ground. Well, I don't like picnics just
because like it's like, hey, getall this food ready to then take
it somewhere else to go sit and eat it.
Like why not just fucking? And guard it from the element.
Just make it and eat it, like, and then go do the thing.
Go do something. But like, yeah, making like this
whole thing to then go take it somewhere and be like, oh,
here's your soggy sandwich and your fucking, you know, chips

(29:24):
that blew across to the ground. No like.
I used to love, because you saidsoggy sandwich.
I used to love the what is it called from Subway.
It's chicken. And it's like I got like a sweet
teriyaki chicken. I like the teriyaki chicken
Subs. So I got one for lunch for work
and I get to work at 7:00 at night and I have lunch around

(29:45):
like 11, which is dinner for me.So I put it in the fridge and
then I get it out and I'm eatingit and it's just mushy.
And I'm like, well, this is the only thing I'm going to have to
eat tonight unless I want to getsomething from like a vending
machine because this is before we had the whole restaurant
convenience store. Yeah.
In the canteen. Yeah.
Before we had all that in there.So I power through this sub and
since then, I've never been ableto eat one of those Subs again.

(30:06):
And then when I think about it, my stomach just like, because I
felt so sickly going back to themachine too, after just powering
through it because then the bread just melted in my mouth.
And look, sandwiches are something like when you hear
that term, they always use it for good things like melts in
your mouth. But if bread and all.
Yeah, it's just not a was not a good texture.

(30:29):
Yeah, when I we did pack sandwiches for the trip up, I
told the girls I was like, you guys get one meal on this trip.
Like if you want breakfast, we can get breakfast.
If you want lunch, you can have lunch.
If you want dinner, we can have dinner.
But like, we're making this and one, like stopping for eating.
We're not going to, like, drag this out three stops and spend,
you know, 150 bucks worth of food up there, No.

(30:50):
How many times did you guys stop?
On the way up there I think 3. That's not bad.
How long was it? 9 hours, yeah.
Well, especially because, you know, the four year old, she did
good. She did real good.
And then she's like I bought her.
It's like, all right, we'll get out and walk around like I'm
cool, I can. Just she's.

(31:11):
Just like strapped down, yeah, she's like locked in and she's
like, I think she was really saying like her stomach hurt
more. So like I think it was just
bottom region of being uncomfortable, but she was
saying her stomach hurt for a lot of it.
And so we get out and but the bad thing is, is, you know, like
when a kid says that, like they mean like right fucking that,
like pull your ass over, right that not wait for the next exit.

(31:33):
But and so like, I'm like, babe,we're going through like West.
Virginia, there is nowhere for me to stop.
That's what sucks. Nowhere.
That's what sucks with having anautistic egg because he doesn't
understand. I'll like, I'll be like, yeah,
give me one second. Well I fucking said now son, you
thought I'm saying he colored eggs because he wants this one
show or this one little ASMR thing that has colored eggs on
it. Maybe that colored eggs I'd be

(31:55):
like after dinner or something like that or I'll give me 5
minutes colored colored eggs. You fucking he's like you stupid
that thing like I fucking said it now.
So today that brings up a littlefunny thing.
So school started and we have the pickup line.
So what they want you to do is they want you to put your child

(32:16):
in the car seat and then drive up to a point where there's like
no cars where you can like pull in and then buckle them up
there. And what I'll do, because no, is
I'll put my child in the car andthen I'll buckle my child up
right there. And I understand it takes, I'm
holding the line for a good 20 seconds longer than it should

(32:37):
be. And I, if I was a, if I was a
parent, OK, if I was a teacher, I would understand I want to get
this line through quickly. But also, if I know that
parents, like, understand the procedure and then still choose
to buckle their children up, I would be like, OK, you know,
it's a little kid. And but this lady was like, if

(32:57):
she would have been like, hey, can you?
And, like, did it in a polite way, I would not have been so
rash about it. But she was like, you need to
drive up there to buckle up yourchild.
And I was like, you want me to drive my autistic child?
You want me to put him in his car seat and then ride up there
without him buckled up. That's what you want me to do
because that ain't going to happen.
And she like fucking like did like that and walked up there

(33:18):
because there's nothing more. They can't just be like, I am
going to force you to do this illegal thing because it is.
It's not legal to drive anywherewith a child unsecure on a
vehicle. But also like he is a kid who
just he would get placed and he'd be like, fuck, I'm not
buckled up and I'm not. I'm just not taking the risk,
bro. Like I am going to buckle mom.

(33:38):
If my vehicle is moving, my child will be strapped in.
If my vehicle, my vehicle doesn't move until that happens.
And I'm just a stickler about that.
And I've always because they told me the the rule on the
first day and I was just like, Igotta get it.
Once again, I understand. And I understand it's hard being
a teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(33:59):
Fuck it off. OK, God Bless America.
I understand this because we've never been a teacher at a car
ride or line. And then staying at school an
hour longer, probably staying 20seconds longer.
But if you do it, then everybodyelse is going to do it.
I hope everybody would make the choice to fucking have a safe
child because I'm not. Because legally they can't
buckle your child. So I have to, I don't know.

(34:21):
They, that's what they say. Legally they're not allowed to
buckle your children up. Because on the first day she put
my kids, I saw they put the kidsin the car.
Well, she puts them in there andthen doesn't bubble them up.
So I just like get out real quick and bubble them up.
The first guy was just like, oh,we did the week.
Like we do it up there. We haven't drove up there.
I was like, I don't feel comfortable doing that.
He's like, oh, you're fine, yeah, you're fine.

(34:42):
Then you don't feel comfortable doing it.
Then no pushback or nothing likethat.
And I never heard anything untilthis year.
And then she was like, you need to go up there to bubble and
bump. Bitch.
I. Didn't say fuck.
Out here too, so I didn't mean to do that, but.
Well, then I mean, they should have it set up in a way that you
can do that safely wherever you're picking up on that.
Like if they've got to split where the kids get picked up at

(35:04):
and like put out like. My thing was first, if you have
that rule, so there's one entrance that they have for the
car rider line, the buses are gone by the time the car rider
line starts. So where the buses, like they
put the kids on the buses have adifferent pick up line there for
the kids that need to be strapped into car seats.

(35:25):
Don't tell parents to drive up the road because I ain't going
to do it. Mike's AI am very
scatterbrained. That's that's why I'm like
people who leave their kids in hot cars.
There's no fucking excuse. Obviously you do not care about
your child. Well, see, like with, with you
talking about the buckling up, like I have a routine that I go

(35:46):
through to buckle my daughter in.
And The thing is that that routine's not handled.
There's been times where, and like I've, I've trained my
daughter to let me know if you're not buckled up because
like, if she like she likes to crawl in through the back and
then get in her seat. And so then like sometimes I'll
forget and like there's been like twice that I forgot to

(36:08):
buckle her, like actually strap her in.
And I feel like the biggest piece of shit in the world cuz
like she was not riding safely. And I was like, babe, like, I am
very, very sorry about this. If you ever are not strapped in,
let me know because like I forgot and you can get really

(36:28):
hurt. So please, just if if you notice
that you're not buckled in, I'veI've forgotten to do this in
this procedure, just let me know.
And there's been a couple times where like she's been like, dad,
you got to buckle me up. And I'm like, because like with
the truck, that's another thing.She's like climbing through the
driver's side. And so then I'm getting like all
the other stuff going and then Iget in.
She's like, that got to be wipedup.

(36:50):
Thanks dude. But here's the thing though,
that's the that's the tale of a good parent because it's never
been like a car accident and thechild's not bubbled up and dies.
It's never the case of it's like, this is the first time
I've ever forgot to do. It's just a, a parent that just
fucking either acidly does it ordoesn't give a fuck.
Yeah, like they're ready to get to whatever destination of your
bubble, your bubble type fuckingperson.

(37:10):
I know there was one couple years ago where the.
For you to like get him in the seat and then your normal thing
is that he's already bubbled. So then you are starting to pull
away and then that's the time that you're going to forget to
fucking strap a man because you're pulling up to this other
fucking location rather than just OK, he's in the seat,
buckle fire, let's roll. So like you having to pull to

(37:32):
that secondary location that. Is when you're.
Going to get kids that are pulling.
Out of the Oh yeah, without being buckled up being buckled,
yeah, I agree with that the. Procedure is not being followed
like your normal like OK because.
Anything, anything can happen totake your mind off of it too,
because then you got to stop andgo, guys.
And then you keep going and you forget to buckle up.
But like with you and you're going, Oh, I forgot to buckle up

(37:54):
my child and make like a routinething out of it where it
happens, where people are like, you know, don't forget to, you
know, buckle your that's for that's for people who are just
they don't like their kid climbsin.
If they're buckle, they're buckle type.
And that's so crazy because car safety is like the fucking
easiest. Does not.
It's the one thing in all of child safety.

(38:15):
If I hear like a kid guys or something, kids are curious and
it's hard to lock it down. You can go the whole baby proof
route and everything like that, But when you're at home, that's
a lot. It's a lot easier to lose focus
off of your kids because you have so many things going on.
I get more of a pass than that. I don't get passes with like
swimming pools. I just don't you're, if you're
around a body of water, your kidneeds to be #1 in your mind
inside of a car. Like there was just a thing that

(38:38):
happened like two or three weeksago where a lady was holding her
child while going down the road.They got to an accident and
obviously the baby died, which fucked up a cop too.
Like you don't like I understandyour child's just kind of it is
your fault 100%, but also like you're you fucked up somebody's
else life in the process too, because first response, you have
to go through that shit and they're not superhuman.

(39:00):
They don't look at death and they're like, this affects me
none. That's why some of them just
like, yeah, I have a therapist and that therapist has a
therapist and she was like, because we tell them all the
crazy shit we go through. It's just a rough and it man,
like they're so that's the crazything too is, is everybody
worries for their children. Normal parents, normal parents

(39:22):
worry so much about their kids. They are hyper vigilant about
them. And we, I think we take we kind
of go too far in the protection department.
Like, you know, we'll helicopteraround playgrounds where it's
kind of a learn and a learning scenario because of just the
stupidest stories you fucking read online of a child dying and

(39:45):
in the most preventable fucking ways possible.
I saw that. One of the local parks, like my
daughter's four and I let her experience the playground and
stuff like that. But there's like one of the
parks where the kids are up almost like 10 feet climbing
this, this weird like spiral thing.
And like I'd be totally cool with my daughter climbing that.

(40:08):
I'm still going to be within that area.
The social AF yeah, doesn't havethe big which one's the one
that's like real high, but it also has the fuck in where you
can like slide down on the pole.I don't know that one's.
In case right? This one is not in case at all
and like. So I think we're talking about
same. Line so this kid was climbing up

(40:28):
it that's like maybe 2 1/2 threeyears old.
No parents around like not even like I think one parent was like
over, but they're like 1520 feetaway and I'm like that kids.
Not it's not that he can't do it, but like if he slips, falls
or anything, like you're not even like in the vicinity to
like even throw out a hand to like.

(40:50):
Slow down his. What do you do with it?
Like in in my mind, like I get the kids.
Knees literally like 15 feet, right?
Yes, it's like. It's OK for like kids to like
experience that and you don't need to be like on top of them.
Like be careful, be careful, butyou should be there in case he
does fall because that's like enough that he he could die from

(41:11):
that fault. I think too is is also just
being obscenic too, because other people raise their kids
vastly differently. So there's like the, you know,
the thing you spin around that has all the net been to wear.
So I will spin that around and Iget tired.
I go up there, I sit at the where the little woods wooden
things are. And I'm sitting there and I over

(41:32):
here, this one kid that is my like middle son's age.
And he was just like, yeah, I saw this one picture of this
girl and she had a big set of titties.
I'm just like, and my son, he becomes everything.
He's like, I got it's weird. And I'm like, that kid is
fucking weird. But then he starts, like,
talking shit to my son. And he's at first he's just like

(41:54):
saying, you know, just being a Dick and we'll move over because
they're all trying to sit at thelike the middle pole on the
center of it. But then like, he fucking pushes
Oliver in the small of his back while Oliver gets off to
obviously come tell me. And I stand up right as the kid
walks up again and pushes them in the middle of the back again.
And I just walked over to him and I was like, hey bud, do you
need to go tell your dad that Mike was asked for you picking

(42:16):
on my son? And he was like.
Oh, what? So he goes over there and my
daughter, she is 11, so she kindof has the.
Wherewithal. She was like damn.
What if? His dad comes back angry, which
I don't know if it was his dad or not because he looked like
1819 and the kids. So I assume it was like a
brother or something like that. I was like baby girl.
He's going to go over there and say that man said something mean

(42:38):
to him and they're going to leave because he knows exactly
how his son is. And any man that raises a kid
like that is no man. Like they're not the type of man
that's going to come up and try to beat somebody up.
And sure as shit, he walks over there and points directly to to
me and you can see him go. He's not going to he's not going
to be confrontational because any household that's raising a
kid like that, that's not a fucking man.
That's not somebody who confronts things.

(42:59):
That's a guy who lets shit slideand fucking does whatever.
Because in my house, like you see how I am, I will I do cuss.
That is one thing is just I do not watch anything sexualized
around them. We don't talk about anything,
you know, sexualized me of obviously one thing about
predators and stuff like that now, but my daughter's 11.

(43:21):
She under switched. That was a my wife and her
conversation when she started her period and everything like
that, but it's just odd. Once again, I've scatterbrained
but also have the wherewithal tobe like, I also have to be a
father and teach people about respect and shit like that.
People are going to listen to this, but we got to teach your
son to punch people in another fuck You don't.

(43:43):
You don't. You don't have to be.
This. Bad ass motherfucker.
Now, if your boy, if my daughterwould have seen that kid, she'd
have probably like tackled him in the back or some shit like
that. Just because she is, she's like
that. She has that.
My middle son does not have that.
And that's not something you have to grow in you.
It's not like you have to grow that violence the.
Only thing that I think you do in those moments is tell them if

(44:06):
somebody is trying to hurt you, you have every right to do that
yourself essentially. And that's the big thing is you
don't have to be the one to takeit to the violence level, but
you need to be there. You you need to understand that
it is never wrong for you to defend yourself.
Like if you are being, you know,if somebody is inflicting
violence onto you, you have every right to, you know,

(44:28):
protect yourself back. We have little kickboxing loves
and little pads at home because I'll just like I'll show them
the basic how to go look jab howto illustrate how to stand
properly just like the I am moreof the if somebody's fucking
with you, especially that kids like way like large he's back.
I don't know I was beating around the Bush there.
He's back in but I but I'll alsobe like you know this is good

(44:52):
kicking with a nuts will end at the meeting like if you are
because I had this conversation because there.
When it's when it's an actual fight and you would you want to
be done with it? You've seen him, he's small.
So I have said, you know, if somebody's messing with you, you
do you have the right to defend yourself like, and I'm not the,
I'm not the if they put hands onyou, I'm the if they get, if

(45:14):
they are talking shit to you andthey get within distance to put
their hands on, that's when you start defending yourself.
You do not defend yourself afteryou've already been hit.
The, the defending yourself starts before then.
If someone's being aggressive and they've stepped into your
area or have approached you and it's up to the.
Point where you feel threatened.That's when you start defending
yourself. I'm not one of those.
Well, we can go to. School and be like, well, your

(45:36):
son hit first. I was like, what happened?
Like well, he came up towards I'm like good.
Yeah. First line of first line of
defense. I'm not.
I will never. That's what baffled me too.
I went to Trinity High School and that was the first time I
ever encountered someone hit me first.
You hit me first. What is this?
And then they kind of do like this little huggy fight and they
get to the ground and the teacher would break it up and

(45:57):
they'd always look for a teacherbefore they fought too.
Like, brother, I went to upper dominantly black school.
You didn't know you was about tobe into a fight until you was in
that fight. Like that was it?
And what's so cool about that, too, is, listen, violence is
never good, but it sure is entertaining because we would,
especially the women, when they got into fights, they'd be like
a 10 on 10 just. For all.
And teachers come in, teachers start getting their ass wolf,

(46:18):
teachers throwing hands too. And I'm just like, fucking God
Bless America me the whole thingwith defenses.
And this is somebody if, if you're listening to this, I
don't know if you're younger or if you're older now and you have
someone who's aggressive towardsyou, but you do you never let
that person get first. And always the thing I do
immediately, if I know somebody's being aggressive, I
no longer talk to you face to face.

(46:40):
I'll talk to you standing sideways with my head turned
because now I have movement. If somebody, if somebody punched
me, I'd go back. A lot of there's only so far he
can lean your back back, but nowyou have a, if you're standing
in a side stand, you can step backwards.
You can do whatever you got to do.
Another thing too is I'm old andI'm fat, brother.
If you're just going to start swinging wildly and shit like

(47:03):
that, I'm not going to partake. In fact, get clipped with a
fucking random shot. I'm just going, it was a Joe
Rogan did a great clip on it where I was like, I'm just going
to let you get tired. That's what you do is you let
him get tired because it is extremely offended.
People who train usually don't just randomly fight people.
They understand that, you know fighting.
There's a lot more things that can happen.

(47:23):
It's usually just a angry personwho does not know how to control
their anger. That's one good thing about
martial arts too, is that it does kind of teach you
Timberland and but always if if you're in a situation with
somebody who's aggressive, neverstand face to face.
Don't do that whole shit of wellif they hit them now, then I
mean even if you're 15, listen to this.

(47:45):
If you are, get the fuck off of this because you don't need to
listen to it. But if your daddy said wait till
they hit you first, no, don't ever, don't ever wait till they
hit you first. As soon as they're being
aggressive and they chase. After them.
But yeah, if they, if they. Approaching your space, I said
if you get within punching rangefrom me, that's the first thing
I'm doing. If you're bigger than me too,
I'm punching in 3rd. I'm kicking in the dead because

(48:05):
I'm not. I'm not here to have a fucking
hustle. Yeah, I'm not here to have a
tussle with you like so. My step dad's dad, I'm going
over to South Edison. This is after I got kicked out
of the first high school that I went to.

(48:27):
So I'm going over there and he'slike, well, yeah, you do all
that shit you used to do with your old school, these big
country boys will whoop your ass.
The first fight I saw there was two guys and I'm taught it was a
pretty good wrestling match, butneither one of them got punched
in the face. And what's so funny is the
football coach, Coach Ralph, listen, God rested.

(48:50):
So he was great. He was a great guy.
But he was, he was a, he was a older guy wrestling coach.
It's y'all got to a fight, he wouldn't give a fuck unless
somebody else of stature saw it.He's like these two young guys,
if you were shit talking to eachother, he'd be like, y'all go
out behind the woods and just fucking fight it out.
And then both kids would be like, well, I'll just go there
separate way. I guess that argument wasn't

(49:11):
worth arguing about. But so he he sees these kids
fighting, he kind of breaks themup.
And one kid was like, we want you to the office.
He's like, I don't fucking hate each.
Other Why would I take us to theoffice?
You can just dust yourself off and go about your day.
Now me and a kid, I look, I callout man, call people for Dylan
Shores. We got into a fight for some

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reason, and I don't know why. I guess this kid was on meth at
like a very young age. But I go to my locker and he's
like ripping up my textbooks andshit like that.
I don't know this kid from Adam,you know, So I chased after him
says nothing to me, says nothingto me.
So we go out there and I immediately just like walk up
and punch in the face. I don't know why you're doing

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this. Honestly, I don't know why I got
upset either because I was just got another free textbook, but I
punch him in the face and we have just like this little
fight. Neither one of us really got
hurt. So Kush Kraut comes up and he
breaks it up and. I was like.
You know I did the OR. We went to the office.
Like yeah, you fuck the fuck. In front of God and everybody,
it was like I have to take you to the office, I'm gonna get in
trouble and I don't give a fuck if you fucks get in trouble.

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I don't get in trouble. There were so many because there
was one big kid coding. I'm talking about this was I
think this was the one kid that he was talking about when he
said the cornbread fed. He looks like a Midwestern boy,
but this, I forgot the other kids name, had a fucking fool
goatee and everything. We'll talk shit to a lot of
people. He's just tall.
He's not really big. He's a tall dude and he's

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talking shit to that kid and Cody pops him in back.
Just Cody ain't saying nothing. The other guys like talk shit
getting all angry. Turn around pops him in mouth.
He looks at coach crap. You shouldn't talk shit.
That's all he says. I've been talking shit.
That was a hell of one of the best teachers that I had drawn.
See, I only had two altercationswhen I moved down here.

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It was my senior year and I was in gym class and like I didn't
play like it was fucking basketball every single day,
basketball, basketball. And so like I didn't want to
fucking get sweaty in the middleof school.
Like it like I'm not going to bean NBA player, like I'm not
playing on the basketball team. But like there was like this
one, I was a senior and there was this junior that like he

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played like a like he was going to fucking be on ESPN tomorrow
like for college. And like, I don't even think he
played on the fucking school basketball team, but like, he
was so, so serious about it. And so I would just like, stand
down and like, defend. Like when he was coming down, I
would just like, slap the ball out and he'd come down and like,
be like Michael Jordan trying tobe all slick and everything.

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And I just slapped the ball awayfrom him and he'd get so fucking
mad. He could.
Like, but he'd run right? Right, trying to run through.
Me and so that was one of the times he's like, he's like, I'm
just going to plow through you next time.
And I was like, OK, And so he came down, instead of me
slapping it away, he like lowered his shoulder and was
like going to. Through me but.
I'm stationary and he's running so like I can get lower than he

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is. And then I just like kind of
like hopping over my shoulder. He flew across and then he like
got up and I didn't turn around and do shit.
He punches me in the back of thehead.
And so like my thing was is likeright now, the coach didn't see
him punch me. So if I just jump his ass right
now, I'm going to be the one that started the fight.
So I was like, you fucking you fucked your sister, you inbred

(52:27):
piece of shit motherfucker. Like punch me in my mouth.
So the fucking. Coach can see so that and I just
would lay. Into him and.
He just would just like fucking.Fuck you man, and.
Just walk away. And so he did that like two
different times and neither timedid we get into like an actual
fight. But I was the type where I was
not going to like hit him because like now there's like
chaos go and it's going to look like I'm kicking his ass and

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like I'm the one starting the bite even though I didn't start
the bite. I was just.
You do always want to look good in those situations where there
is going to be like plausible deniability, yeah.
And so like I, I literally, I tried to like mess him up so bad
with like him fucking his sister.
And did I ever tell you the story about the guy still in the
basketball for my friend when I first started at Trinity?

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I didn't tell you that. I'm not going to tell.
I don't hear that because I almost sound like I'm one up and
you all the story. I'm not gonna do it.
You don't remember it. I'm sorry.
All right, well, my sister-in-law or my
sister-in-law, my brother-in-law, he always tells
a story about me because he was a big chubby kid all throughout
school and there was one kid whowould constantly slap him in the
back of the head and shit like that.

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So the kid comes up and or they're talking about something.
No, he wouldn't always slap and he was just a big to him.
Well, they're talking about something and the kid stands up
and just slaps him back in the head.
He got to spend 5 days. Yeah, that was the only fight he
had ever been in that was under the 0 tolerance. 0 tolerance
meant if you were not from an affluent family and you did not

(53:57):
dress with all the nice clothes and shit like that, if you look
for do not fucking do anything because they're going to be on
your ass in a heartbeat. That kid wearing the fucking
Abercrombie and bitch jacket with the fucking Justin Bieber
haircut, those were the Dicks, man.
They would never get in fucking trouble because it just you'd be
in clap or you go to the office and I'm sitting there in a
fucking hootie I wear every day that's got stains on it versus,

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you know, this kid right here and it's like.
Well, look at you bud. Look at your.
Fat ass I bet you were out there.
Look throwing your weight around.
I've never done. I know I'm just getting bullied
bro like what the fuck. I defended myself after I got
like. Teachers really did like turn me
into the when I really got to the point where I became, I did
become a bully because I was like, fuck, man, hey, I'm not

(54:38):
getting picked on anymore. And B, it just does feel good
because the more I did it, the more popular I got.
See, that's the wild thing aboutBomax, like the, the 20 year
reunion because my, my class wasso small that like I think
there's a couple of my friends that like made it out without
getting bullied necessarily. But for the most part, like all

(54:59):
of us were bullied and then bullied each other.
Like we like we all talked shit.And so like, it's a weird
dynamic, like my wife was, my wife had made the comment.
She's like the size of your whole entire grade is like the
size of the click thundering like inside my whole school.
Like so like that, that was the close group of friends.
And like that was every fucking Bunny.

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So from the time I was in preschool until I would have
graduated with them, but I left for my senior year, like it's
the same fucking third kids every day for your whole entire
school, like their whole entire time of us growing up.
It was that wow. Because that's a classroom.
That's that's just a. Regular, there's always two
classes like so like if there was an English class, it was

(55:42):
like, you know, 15 to 20 kids. And so like I think if we were
to take all the kids that have came and went out of that class,
there's probably like 14 something.
But like the graduate class was like 32 or something.
But that's why. So you'd be like, man, I want to
get a class with my best friend.And she's like, all right, most
likely, yeah, yeah, most likely.You're probably going to be in
that class with them. Yeah, but that also means that

(56:04):
there's only like, you know, 15 girls.
We all have. I mean, yeah, they're all the
girls were like we had. And so then you'd go to, like,
other schools. But even still, like you, you
knew everybody. Oh yeah.
My girlfriend goes to a different school.
Me, I was just. I do like the fact that I didn't

(56:26):
have in chain because they'd be like Mike, where's the bitches
at buddy? I'll be like pussy.
Wells run dry, Brothers pussy. Wells run dry.
Mike's got to get all the fat women my.
There was there was one big girl.
And bro, my friends, this is this is that like Southern
Guilford? I was after the fight with the

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senior I met. That's when like, you know, I
really had started because you're in a school with all new
people. They you got half or 1/4.
I don't have middle school, you know, transition out there
fucking cares. But not all the kids I knew went
there. So, you know, a brand new day.
And also there's four years in this 1.
So it's a higher likelihood the classes that will win my

(57:08):
brothers and shit like that. So when I got there, of course
people were like, oh fuck yeah, another right to bully, except
that this one was built different.
All right, He had already found out he was built different.
I was, I was scared to fight, but also, you know, couldn't
wait to do them, which was the this the goofiest conundrum
ever. And I'll tell you, I'll get into
it because I talk about some of these like I'm a badass.

(57:30):
No, all right. So I kind of I go to Southern
Guilford S Davison because I went from southern Guilford to
South Davison to wheat market. Three out of three out of four
schools I got out of and then one was about to fail because I

(57:51):
had missed so many days. And thankfully when I trans,
because I, when I left Southern Guilford, I had missed a lot of
days through suspension and all sorts of things.
And I was going to have to get help back.
And that's cuckoo stinky bad. But I got kicked out, thankfully
got kicked out, went to South Davison and South Davison when I
was like, they were looking at they, all they did was look at

(58:12):
my grade and stuff. They was like, oh, you just need
to like do this, this, this and this and you'll be fine.
I'm like, what? I was literally about to get
held back my grave. That's crazy.
Just for missing days. All my grades were good.
Yeah. When I I dropped this is this is
the like the fucking duality of me.
I dropped out one year. I didn't even drop out.
I just left and got all zeros. And I graduated with a 3.2 GPA

(58:32):
with four zeros on my group. Like weighing down my ground.
I was taking AP classes and showlike that.
I don't know. I got to the thug life and I was
not meant for it also. And I didn't want to be in there
and it didn't get to a point where I was just like, I want to
live this life and get the gang violence and share.
No, it's not for me, which didn't, you know, work out my
favorite, but so this is before the Trinity.

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I got to talk about the thing that happened to us out there
since I sat there and there was this one girl, Danielle.
Oh fuck, I'm still leaving that fucking.
Well, there's 1000 there. Yeah.
Well, this is going to become. All too clear once I keep
talking about it. So if anybody wants to that
school. So Danielle dates this guy
Edgar, all right. Well, now you're fucking.

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From that school, this AG one oryou know, Remember Me from the
year I went there and everybody does by the way everybody like
we thought you died bro like everybody came with rumours
about what happened to you, got to a fight then just got kicked
out forever. So I am hitting on her like I'm
talking to her and stuff like that and I'm cheating is very

(59:37):
pretty. So I'm trying to get with her.
She has a boyfriend. I am not look, this is my thing.
I am not friends with a boyfriend and I feel like if you
shoot shot, even though she has a boy like fuck, you know what
I'm saying? Like it ain't my fault.
I also like fancy the girl you like.
That's how I looked at back then.
All right, but still it's not myfriend's girl.

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You know what I'm saying? I'll try.
This is why when there's like a Co worker that's like oh, tells
your girl like, oh, we should doshit.
No, I read those stories all thetime.
I'm just like, you don't do thatbecause he is 1.
There is no you just met a Co worker friend and he's just
trying to be friend. That risk Edgar tells him he is
not. And bro was from Mexico, had a

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thick accent and was on the wrestling team and could just by
chance bike his motherfucking ass off board was bad guys.
I thought he was going to be like the UFC fighter or
whatever. When he grew.
Up But he was pretty bad dude, so I would do it and I always
knew that, especially who he wasand I was I still did it.

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I'm stupid, you know, fucking you're young and dumb.
So he tells me he's like, hey, you know, that's my girl and I'm
I'm very respectful. I'm like oh, OK, don't hit all
OK, You know, I apologize brother.
It's not what you think it is, even though it's 100% what you
think it is. Absolutely.

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Yeah. To this day, I'll tell Edgar
it's not what you think it was. If he catches me out, if he
listens to this podcast, comes behind me, I'll be like, I was
just lying for entertainment value.
Brother, you ain't got to get angry.
So I continue to try to hit on Danielle, and one day I am
walking out of my classroom and this motherfucker grabs me.
Now I'm probably like the same height.

(01:01:25):
I've been 510 since I was in 9thgrade.
Not grown up, goddamn middleman.I don't know what the fuck is
up. So I'm, I'm not fat, but I'm at
the point where I'm like transitioning down, working out,
stuff like that. What if I'm grabbing?
It throws me up against the locker like it ain't nothing.
Very smaller than you or. He's like like his forehead
would come up like the middle ofmy forehead.

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So he's shorter than me, but he's still fucking.
He's got like a 900 pack and once again, the like the best
wrestler on the team and just fucking about the business and
he puts me up against the lockerstraight bullshit out and
straight out of and all this shit.
I talk and 100% Edgar heard noneof that.

(01:02:06):
He heard. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, bro.
Yeah, I was just hitting on her.What now?
I was telling her the dangers ofalcohol in a field drinking out.
You know, you can get alcohol poisoned from that.
It's not. It was educational value.
Please don't be my ass, Edgar and the teachers come and break
it up and my friends would even be like, you know, it looked
like Edgar was going to fuck youup.
He looked like he was going to fuck me up.
He probably could have fucked meup.

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We had another instance because I told you coach probably not
give a fuck like when we had PEIDon't know.
I guess PE teachers have like they're like we're going to do a
tech. None of that shit.
You showed up PE he immediately.You do what you want.
Man, that's great. It was the Wild West Road and
like, we were like, hey, we wantto play mat ball.
So he'd organized that. That's the only time he'd

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organized. You How was your mat ball?
They set mats from tell a story about mat ball too.
Well, because like we had mat ball and the way that we played
it was there was a mat in each corner.
They pulled them off the walls and stuck them in each corner.
And then it's basically like kickball but you have 4 bases
and you're not on home base. It's like coming straight in the

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middle of like 1st and 4th let. Me tell you about Matt Ball.
And we had to run around twice in in order to score.
So at South Davison they have the gym and then they got a side
gym. So they have a gym.
Wait. One second kid and if you played
Matt Ball in gym, I would like to hear your Matt Ball
experience in the conference. OK, so you know the Matt Ball

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story, because it's this finger.Why this finger's so fucking fat
around the ramp? Once I tell it to you, you're
going to be like, But we had thesecond gym off to the side and
what we would do there is whatever the fuck we wanted to
do because Coach Crowell was going to sit at the back and
whatever magazine he was reading, he loved Alabama
football, loved Alabama football.
So if we weren't talking shit tohim about that, we was over on

(01:03:58):
the other side of the gym doing whatever.
So we would do this thing to. And you knew this going in, if
you were just standing there minding your own business and
there was a ball near you, somebody was going to kick that
motherfucker in your face. And I was just like that.
And we all accepted that. It's all guys over there.
It was the silent acceptance, like acceptance of like, if you

(01:04:20):
do that, that's what happens. So Edgar did that to me.
This was before. This was before we got into any
altercation. It was just a thing that you
did. So he did it to me and I am he.
He does soccer balls, bro. There's no gift.
It's not like dodge balls. The dodge balls.
So you played math ball with thesoccer ball?

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No, we just, we're not playing battle right now.
We're just we. Started with the math.
It's the Wild West in the side gym.
They had like a little decrepit basketball.
We over there, mind you, 30 kids.
We had one gym. Yeah.
No, no, multiple gyms. Well this one was like a they
were making a new gym and this was the old one they had built
around it. I don't know what the fuck they
did, but the the basketball court here was all cracked and

(01:05:02):
shit like that. I think they made jokes that
they played girls basketball in there.
But he does that and I'm like trying to gain my bear and I'm
like what the fuck bro? You know, I don't know who Edgar
is at this point. And this is so at the end of 9th
grade year, that's when I left suddenly go for the thing with
me and him didn't happen until the 10th grade year when I got
kicked out. So I'm like, what?

(01:05:24):
He's like, we all, it's like we all do it like, and I knew it
was a thing that everybody did. And then people were like, oh,
he's new. And let me tell you, Edgar could
puss in Boots like nobody else because he apologizes.
And I guess it's like this Mexican Casanova, they don't
know what it is. If there's like a little gay in
me because he just hits me. Well, he's like, brother, I'm so
sorry. This Mexicans man, I tell you, I
put him on higher pestal than everybody else, but his people

(01:05:46):
just like this. So I didn't know.
You know, he's like, you didn't.Yeah, he's like, I know you
don't know. Just we do this and I'm so
sorry. Like from the bottom, if it's
like you could tell, like I saw a sparkle in his eye and
everything. I'm just like, you're all right.
It's OK. You Jack.
Little Mexican like I forgive you.

(01:06:06):
Yeah. Everything's good.
Friends. And then shoot to the fucking
next year. Yeah, he's just like he, he, he
turned out of the the which. What was crazy too though is I
would then go to lunch and sit at the table with him.
And after the. Yeah, And he was like, so it's
like, because, you know, the first day it happens, I ain't
going to sit there because it's fresh, you know what I'm saying?

(01:06:28):
That anger's fresh, so it's likea couple days later, I sit there
all and he's just like, fucking where you go?
Talk about. Yeah, just like, talk about
what? And I was like, all right, so
what's? This have to do with map.
Ball, it's OK, I'm sorry, Map ball story.
So we're playing map ball. They set up the mats.
Now, if you've never played map ball before, and I might have

(01:06:49):
told this on the podcast, this might where I've been told it in
an earlier episode, but if you play map ball, you understand
when you run and you jump on a mat, then bitches going to
slide. So me, I kick the ball and it's
a good kick, all right, and I get it.
I'm getting it. This is towards. 9th grade.
So 10th grade is where I've losta bunch of weight.

(01:07:12):
Trimmed down, looking good. I was like, Mike, we ain't gonna
get no bitches if we're sitting here being fat and shit like
that. And plus the road we lived on,
Jim Elliott was like 5 miles long to get to our house so I
could walk up. About what I do is I go up and
down that because I was like, well, we fat shit.
We got to get some bitches. I went through periods of being
small and fat. And what's so funny is I could
just scroll through my Facebook and be like, small look, small

(01:07:35):
mic, fat mic, small mic, fat mic.
I'm about to get on small mic again because I've been working,
but I'm going man. And I got some inertia behind
me. I'm pretty chubby kid.
So I got some inertia behind me.Well, I step on its third base.
Yep, it would be. No, it would be what would be
second base. So we're at the back.
First base is right here. Second base is at the double

(01:07:57):
doors. Double doors, very important.
Third base right here. Home home plate is where you
kick the ball out. So I kick it and it's a good
kick and I'm getting it and I jump.
I don't know why I jumped because if you're fat and you
ever got a lot of momentum and you're like, I should jump,
don't do it. So I jump up in the air with
both feet. Land on the map.

(01:08:17):
All right, I am almost like tilted back like this.
So I've got like, I feel like I'm falling backwards.
So I correct, overcorrect too much forward and I slam my hand
into one of the double doors andthen I stand up and this finger
is bent all the way backwards. And so I like, I stand up and
I'm just like, oh, and I immediately look down my hand

(01:08:39):
and you don't want to seem like a bitch.
So I like turn around and I'm like, man, yeah, I fucked up my
finger. And Coach Kraut comes and he's
like, oh fuck. So you know, he walkie talkies
somebody from the office to comeget me.
I don't know why we didn't just walk up there.
So I had to stand there for a good 10 minutes and pretend like
I was not in agony. And I'm just like, fucking shit

(01:09:01):
happens. I've had.
These. Things hurt words.
I'm pretty sure I'll say corny shit like that.
I'll be in Courtney. So I'm like, I want to hear
somebody tell this story becauseI want to just be like, if
someone was like, yeah, brother,you look like he's about to cry.
Like, because I was like, you know, that bee stings are worse
than this. You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is nothing. This is an accident.
I was like. You gotta come over and Dad,
what the fuck? Oh.

(01:09:21):
My God have. You ever seen something like
that? And what's so crazy too, is the
piss they got from the office. Obviously the the lady that set
up this section had never seen anything like that.
She was like fuck, can you die from me?
I'm like, Oh my God. Like she was not equipped with
dealing with injuries because she was freaking out as much as
I was freaking out. The crazy thing is when the

(01:09:42):
doctor set it back in place to so he's like, all right, I'm
putting the numb thing in there and he's like sitting there
talking to me and he's like, andthe numb thing is probably going
to change. Like just, you know, the numb
thing probably take about, you know, 10, maybe 20 minutes.
And he was like done. And I looked down and he had
fucking popped my finger back inplace in that time.
And then didn't. Feel a little motherfucking?

(01:10:03):
That's crazy. So I broke my arm on a four
Wheeler, literally on this four Wheeler, my buddy's dad, I was
riding on the back of it and like, I'm not gay, so I'm not
going to like put. My but it feels gay.
It's not. Going to put in put my arms
around him and he's like, he's like don't hold on to the
luggage rack. Like just don't do it.
And I was like yeah, no problem.And so like, that's where I'm

(01:10:25):
fucking holding on to. And we go through like these
ruts that just like, and one of them gets it and then all of a
sudden my fucking arm, I look atit and it's like literally.
And I was like, Jim, hey, I think I broke my arm.
He's like no, looks back. And he's like, oh shit.
He just grabs it and goes trick,trick puts it back in place,

(01:10:50):
reset it like right there, like fucking instantly.
And like luckily it didn't. It's like I I was already in
shock from the whole thing, but like, did you?
Ever get to the doctor about it?Yeah, we OK, That's what I'm
saying. But the thing was is like that's
I just. Every time it's cold, I'm in
excruciating pain. I think I was like 12 or 13 at
the time. I thought you were gonna say
like it always feels because me,I look, I have been a kid who

(01:11:13):
always wanted to ride 4 Wheelers.
And the only time I rode 4 Wheelers were were my friends,
but they also wanted to ride their four Wheelers.
So I would also be relegated to the back.
And this kid, Andrew, I used to ride on his four Wheeler and
when I he would let me drive it.But then also when like we were
going in, I'd have to ride on the back.
And I thought you because he wasalso a not a luck, but when he
was like, yeah, you could bribe when he was like, you can't put

(01:11:35):
it on the luggage rack. You got to wrap him around me.
But I fucking held on like it was the Titanic.
I didn't just it snuggled up. I didn't even give a fuck.
No, I like, I mean it was just one of those things where I
hadn't like rode on like I rode 4 Wheelers, but I didn't like
ride bitch like I didn't ride inthe back.
And so like, but this, this is the thing.
It's like, so I'm like 12 or 13 right arms reset.

(01:11:57):
He calls my parents. My parents come and like we live
in BFE like they're in bum fuck Egypt for people that don't know
where that is. But like waiting on my parents
takes like 45 minutes to get there.
I'm fine. Like it doesn't hurt really.
So like I'm fine. But then all of a sudden it
started to like swell in like these weird areas so that it
looked like it was gonna be likefucked up permanently.
And then so then I start like crying like a little bitch

(01:12:20):
because like my arms fucked up, but I'm like, oh man, it's gonna
be fucked up for the rest of my life.
And then we end up going to the emergency room and they're like,
oh, yeah, just go see the doctoron Monday.
And this was like Friday night. They're like, yeah, just.
Do some. Arm in a sling.
Go see the doctor on Monday and then finally Monday comes around
after I'm like sleeping like this for the whole weekend and

(01:12:40):
then finally they put fucking cast on it.
But I had to go the whole weekend with like this weird
like lumped up fucking weird armfor literally like 3 days I
thought. You were going to be like, yeah,
we never went to the doctor. And no, just said, oh, you know,
when it gets cold outside, Agonizing bang.
I'm just, I have none of those pains, really.
Like I have. Like pain free.
Right. People are like, you know, when
it gets real cold to have the pain, like if they had any

(01:13:01):
surgery or my friend Dustin, he fucking tore his ACL doing that
ball. And then could more than one
person be on a base? Yeah.
OK. Like ours was, it was in the
corners of the gym. So like it, we had four bases.
You kicked from in between, likefirst and 4th, and you had to
run around twice in order to score.

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And then the way that our gym was built was there, like if it
hit the ceiling, you were out. But if you could hit it above,
like this brick line that we had, like where the bricks
changed, like there was cement block and then bricks, right?
And if you hit above the cement blocks, it was a home run.
And like ours had white and thenblue at the.
Top yeah. So if you could hit it up there

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without hitting the ceiling, that was a home run.
But then like the rest of it waslike.
Oh yeah, fuck if I hit the ceiling.
Fuck if I have the fucking velocity and power to hit the.
But then you kicked with like a kickball, right?
Which is crazy. Like I wonder if there was like
a? Dodgeball.
If it was all for dodgeballs. Yeah.
And then? Like kids these days, like when
they play dodgeball they have the foam balls.

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I'm like you pussies like how getting hit in the face with the
dodgeball. How do you become a man?
Not here like walking away with the ringing in your.
Ear like that's the thing that was the funnest part was like,
you would just like fucking Chuck that thing, do you?
Remember the ring from a dodgeball like you have to just
the. But you like one playing
kickball like their mat ball. That's what it was like, though,

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is because like there'd be like a pile of kids and you just hope
that you weren't the fucking onerun into that base when somebody
chucked that thing and like if it took out your legs, you're
like flipping over. You get smacked in the face.
It's like with dodgeball, at least you're like kind of aware.
But like when you're fucking chucking it to trying to get to
like the next base and then somebody has a good arm and
takes you out, that hurt like a bitch.

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With there was this one little kid he used to get picked
online. His name was Matthew.
He was he was a like a fat kid, but he was real stubby like he
was short too. So he was real stubby and wasn't
fast at all. And how we would play at, you
know, so and I'm not, look, thisis not a race thing.
Black people just tend to be faster a lot of the times.
OK, quick. Black people are quick.

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It had, I don't know, but most, yeah.
But 99%. OK, we're going to say that the
stereotype that black people arefast is true because the black
guys were fast. So my thing was, I'm not running
up to get a dodgeball when you know, the kid next to me is a
fucking athlete. The kid across me is a fucking
athlete. I'm not doing it.
I'm not stupid. Matthew was not like that.
He always wanted to go up there and try to get one of the balls,

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man. And he would get a ball.
There were plenty of balls to get, like they were more than
enough for everybody. But he would get his head taken
out and I twat like if you see somebody get their head taken
off with dodgeball, hot memory. If you see somebody just every
single time you play bucking dodgeball, you know it's going
to happen like he's going to geta pelt from 5 or. 6 balls and he

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had spirit like he was. He wasn't just going to sit
around and wait like he'd he'd go for it.
Sometimes we have like, you know, a couple white kids on our
team, predominantly white team. Then we have guys we got to.
Work together, all right, we gotto work, we got to phone shield,
we got to start. We got to start playing a team
sport right now, OK, because we're going to fucking lose.
That's what sucks so bad too, isjust that that's something for

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the actor. Like it was a fucking like PE
was a we're training warriors out here.
Like we're going outside or we're going to see you can run
the fast smile. Really.
You want to know who can, who can run the fast smile?
Yeah. There's two figures going to be
the the you call the white kid or you think it's going to be
fucking Antonio right here, the 6-7 guy with a fucking 100 back.
You you don't think he's probably a little bit faster
than I am? Yeah, that's one kid, though.

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He was like 5-7. I don't remember his name.
He was Hispanic and they called him cast like that was his
nickname was just like skating fast.
Fastest mother fucker I have to this day.
I see. Well literally there was a black
kid whose nickname was Rocket. If you're black and you black
people tend to have the nicknameof something that they do well

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or some accident that happened and it sticks for if your if
your nickname is Rocket, that means you're fast as fuck.
It's his childhood nickname. They knew he was going to be
fast as fuck bro. I think his name was Daniel
actually, though, this man a kid, he was a white kid though.
He acted like a white kid. He was, but he was Hispanic and
I'm talking about he would dirt on everybody, even grounded

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would not run tracking field. And I was just like, man, you
got like a future in that. He was like, he's like, yeah,
look at the gay uniforms. And I'm like, fair enough, fair
enough. He was like, I'd never do that.
You would never get a picture ofme.
I don't think he'd get a scholarship.
He'd be like, you think I'm going to college like weed?
He was, that was the shit. He was.
More into I ran cross country for a year and like I say, for a

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year I ran for like the first meet and realized that I was at
the back of the pack like and I was like, maybe I'll just keep
smoking cigarettes and hang out behind these because we
practiced in the cemetery. So I just run and then hide a
cigarette and be cheap and cut across them.
And then at meats, there was oneguy on our team that was

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obviously slower. He was the big, big guy on the
team and I just ran in the back of top of him and then every
once in a while, but it went just because.
You don't want to. Was he like the guy that did the
ball thingy? No, no, no.
This is cross country. So it's like.
Also, it's not track and field. No, it's like running miles and
it's I always. Forget.
Stupid little shorts. I always forget there's an

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infield and then there'll be somebody who does not look like
a runner and they'll be like, yeah, I'm on track and field.
I was like, oh, so we lose a lot, right?
Like, no, we didn't even have track and field until I think it
was maybe like my 10th or 11th grade.
Then they got a track and field team.
But for the longest time, like back in the day, they had
wrestling, they had swimming, they had all such football.

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But when, when I was going there, we had football.
Did your? Football team suck really bad.
Like I mean, it's a division thing, so art wasn't too bad.
South Davidson, like I said, that's an all white school.
The two years that I went there,because I went back end of nine

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and then, you know, all white Sundial Town, Rory, how these
house changed something. So I I come from New York where
still all white people, but but right, not a single black
person. I think there's Hispanic.
People with us. But if you said anything about
black people around all those white people, that will get very
upset for the white. In my New York.

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No, not in that New York. The New York but I, I.
Don't know that. I don't know the racial divide
in New York. Rich, New York.
The New York that I grew up in was like, people were very
racist. No, I'm talking about the New
York. Where that here Jay-Z.
And when's the final song about They didn't sing about all of
it. I've never they song about City
Park. Just the city.
Yeah, just City Park. But yeah.

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OK. So I went to something for the
back half of 9th grade and then towards the 9th grade.
I don't know what story I was telling.
Something about the track and field crossing.
Oh no, the football team. So yeah, all white school, I,
from the time that I went there through 9th grade, I had learned
about their football team. And then in 10th grade, because

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they hadn't won one game and I was like, oh, maybe it's like
young, they're young and you know, now they're, you know,
they lost a lot of seniors and stuff like that.
The next year they won zero games.
They got worse. And I was like Alpha Coach Grau,
who was also the football coach,he, he loved wrestling.
He was a wrestling coach in his heart.

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Also had to do football. You feel like, yeah, we lost a
lot of seniors. I was like, man, good thing you
don't need and homecoming too. Who the fuck will we play
Chatham And they saw and we're we're there and this is
homecoming because it's like this is the team we could beat.
It's the team we beat last year and it was like 27 and nothing

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and 1/2 time was losing. I was like, I don't, I think
they got better. I think they might have went
around and just recruited a couple black kids.
I don't know. I have been extremely bored
across high school football games that I've ever watched.
Yeah, If you're not going there because of a like, no one goes
there to watch the EW unless yougot a kid playing.
Yeah, everybody's there for nefarious reasons.

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Like, I'm like, I got a finger, so I, like, I have an
appointment to finger somebody on the bleachers.
That's why. I'm going to the football game.
Like, I'm not going there to watch football.
I think when I was in high school, I definitely didn't go
when I moved down here, but likewhen I was, I wouldn't go to the
like I would go to the game. But then within like a few
minutes me and some of my buddies be.

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Like you guys want to smoke? Or go over here and like, you
know, go into the bridge and smoke weed and then just chill.
Everybody wanted to do it under the bleachers and I'm like,
that's the easiest place. Like for someone just be like, I
smell marijuana and get caught. And then one time a cop he did
or a parent, I don't know who informed the cop or if he
smelled it himself, but it was like everybody in this section,

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I want to search. And everyone was like, no,
you're not. And he was like, all right.
Then walked. I was like, oh fuck, he's going
to search everybody. I didn't have anything on me,
but I was like, he's going to search everybody.
And then all the parents were like, oh, fuck, you're not.
He was just like, all right, have a good day.
You just do that to comps. Not you, but they.
Can't do that. They were walking down the road
and the, well, I guess I look, Isold weed maybe twice in my

(01:22:36):
life. The first time it literally
lasted like 4 days and I'm like,I'm not doing it.
So you call. And then the second time lasted
maybe two months. And I was like, I'm not doing
this. But we start selling because my
friend Anthony explained about breaking it down in grams and
stuff like that. And I was, oh, that is a good
business strategy. Like if you're, you know, you
buy 1/4 and then you break it down in grams, you're going to

(01:22:56):
make way more money because you're not selling in big
quantities. And it's a cheap way to make a
lot of, man, it's a good thoughtuntil you realize, well, I got
to go here and sell the gram. And I got to go here and sell
the gram. And I got to go here and sell
the gram. And then most people don't just
want a gram. So then your math starts to get
fucked with. And I was like, I kind of, you
know, it was one night I was staying up real late, probably
on something different. And I was like, that sounds like

(01:23:18):
a good strategy. And I enacted it the next day.
And it did not turn out to be what I thought it was.
He stayed on a little while longer, but they get pulled over
by Com and he just in his mind inconspicuously takes the weed
out of his pocket. He's on the ground.
He's not really ever been in trouble.
I don't know why he's so if I also get a friend out of the
like, brother, thank you. This ain't us.

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I don't know how you've taught me how to doing this.
I guess it's being bored and then you're like, be less bored,
honey. But.
That's how we end up on a podcast.
Hasn't worked out the way they where did the cop get out?
He just gives out. He's like he's like, I just saw
you throw that shit on the ground like that's the first
thing He's like God damn man, I guess it's a cop like he was
ready to get all shit, but he walks over there and he's like,

(01:24:00):
fucking come on, man. The only one out of them 310
trouble too. And he was like, I don't even
want to fucking search all man. I'm just going back.
What are you kids doing out lateat night?
Please get back home, and he's like you should fucking you just
going to drop it. He's you fucking dumb ass the
whole time. Just like God, man.
See, where I grew up in New York, we never got like busted.

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I think there was one party thatgot busted where people got like
underage tickets. I was down here in North
Carolina, visit me. And so like, I wasn't at the
party, but like for the most part, every time the cops came,
they'd either, hey, take our booze.
Or just they walked up lackadaisically announcing their
presence. That's one thing too, because I
remember the first, that's wherey'all went to where cops came.

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I was like, I got to hide in thefucking closet, kind of
terrified. And then they're like, I hear
him come in. There's like, hey, kind of
fucking lot of kids. Yeah, like you said, yeah, y'all
need to home. Is there alcohol here?
One kid said none of they're like, all right, well, don't be
drinking alcohol. And then they left.
The second time they just like kind of like walk up, they start

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shining a light like this. Everybody takes off.
They just stand there. This.
We have this one. So I'll start from the beginning
of the night just to like get towhere we like what we have
preemptively had happened. But we were at this party a
couple towns over and we had bought some shrooms and so we
ate the shrooms, me and my one buddy and he had found a watch

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earlier. Like all this chaos like ended
up happening. But we we started walking to
another friend's house. That was our goal.
We were going to walk like basically 7 to 8 miles to this
other friend's house and that's where we're going to crash all
night. But while we're walking, we're
me and the guy that ate shrooms.We're both wearing dare shirts.
Ironically, that's that was our whole thing is, you know, dare
shirt, Ha ha, fuck there. And so we're tripping, walking

(01:25:50):
down the road with our other twobuddies and these guys like Ryan
Byers look tears for pigs, pigs.And then like, we'd drive off
and then like finally after, like, that's like a movie.
Bully thing to do, yeah. Being drug free is for.
Queer. That's like what drug
commercials would. But like me for trike kids, I
think I had like a multi coloredMohawk at the time and like I

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think one of us is probably wearing jinkos.
Like obviously it's it's, you know, like we're.
Wearing it for the satire. Yeah, and, and, but like we, it
was just like 3 or 4 times the same people came back by.
And so finally a car is coming up behind us and my other buddy
who's tripping, he's finally hadenough.
And like, even though he's on troops, he's like, I'm going to

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fuck kick their ass. Like if they slow down, I'm
fucking jumping in this car. And so they slow down and
somebody pops their head up to the hill.
They're like, hey, do you know how to get to the hill?
Which is where this other part is happening at that we wanted
to go to, but we're just walkingto our friend's house.
We're going to go crash for the night.
They're like, yeah, you know howto get to the hill.
And so it ends up being some of our buddies that want to go to

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another party, so we have in thecar with them.
So it's not same guys are calledeffects.
No, totally different crew of people and me and the other guy
that ain't shrooms, we're like sweet, we can go to the next
party instead of just going to somebody's house and go to
sleep, Like we can just keep thenight going.
And so we drop the two guys off at their house that we were
going to stop at and then we show them how to get to this

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other party. And as soon as we get down to
this other party, like it's justlike fight breaking out.
Like where I guess one guy was harassing another guy about how
hot his sister was. And so dude just starts fucking
wailing on him. And dude, other guy gets in his
car and shuts the door and my buddy thinks that the window's
open. So he tries to punch through the

(01:27:34):
window to like punch the guy in the face, but the window's
closed. So he just punches the window.
And you know, you, you are not punching through a fucking car
window. So like he basically breaks his
hand in the process of that. And so like all this stuff
happens like immediately when weshow up to this party.
So it's like chaos. And then the night goes on.
It's a normal, you know, teenagedrinking party, random little

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stuff here and there. But then we're all sent around
the campfire and we. Most of us.
Have ran out of alcohol by theirtime.
And so there's this car that pulls up over the hill, which
we're like in this like gully ina field, and it's like 1/2 mile
to the road. And so when this car pulls up,
pulls up over the hill, somebody's like, man, I hope
they brought beer. And then some other person was

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like, man, that's the cops. I'm running like it's fucking
4:00, right? Yeah, the fucking cops and they
can't come if it's like private property.
Well, turns out the kid that punched the window and broke his
hand drove drunk home and he waslike 1 of like 3 or 4 kids that
got busted drunk driving and pulling out of this place.
So the cops had probable cause. So they, the the cop pulls in,

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opens his door, clicks on his flashlight and he's like
everybody get out your IDs. The guy that said he was going
to run just fucking takes off running.
I told him. I told him I was gonna run.
I told him I thought I told him I told lot of losers back there.
He. Did and then right in front of
him while the cop has his flashlight on him, he runs
straight into a pot. Pot a pond.

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And then so fast he gets back out and then runs off into the
woods and the cop, like literally, it's not in a field,
you can't see it. But the cop's just like, I hope
that was worth it, right? And so then he gets like
everybody else to like get out their IDs.
And one of my buddy that I was eating shrimps with, I think he
had been on probation or no, theguy that had been partying with
us, he had been on probation. So he's like, as soon as the cop

(01:29:29):
like goes over there, we're going to fucking book it to the
woods. So my my buddy that was doing
shrooms, he threw his bike like,you know, your friend did.
He threw his pipe and his weed over off to the side so that if
he did get busted, like he wouldnot get busted with it.
And so we ended up taking off into the woods and waiting and
waiting and waiting for the copseventually leave and the sun's

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coming up by this time, parents come down.
Finally the cops leave and then we come back out and the one
thing that the fucking cops leftwith, it was my buddy's pipe.
But it's weed like. We're going to smoke this.
They did not. You know, give anybody no.
Citation stoked tickets. Often they found the weed and
the the pipe because he had likethis little fancy like hippie

(01:30:15):
fabric bag that he had his futile pipe in with a little bag
of weed. And so they just like, picked it
up and confiscated whether they took it and smoked it or not.
But like. Bro Dare told you like if you
got caught underage drinking your life is over.
And one of my brother's friends got caught doing it.
He's like, you ain't giving me acitation and didn't even like
make me go home. I was just like, go walk off
into the darkness here. And I suppose so.

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I was like, oh, they don't. They probably don't really give
a fuck. About that damn we got busted on
Lake Erie, like where I just took my family up to go on
vacation and that beach, my cousin used to live off of it.
And so we have like 3 fires set up and it was like it was at
Boston Park like, I mean for being teenagers underage

(01:30:59):
drinking like it was the second like beach party multiple fires
everybody just sitting around drinking and the cops busted us
there and part of the stuff they're like got that out.
So we're just sitting there cracking beers and dumping them
out. Me and the same kid that did the
shrimp at the last party we wereat this and he said go put out

(01:31:21):
some of those fires. So we went off the beach and
just put out the fire trip quickand then hid.
So if we weren't going to get busted with an underage drinking
ticket, which we never did, but yeah, he made it like all the
rest of the people sit there andemptied all of their bare hands.
And then finally when he busted somebody up at the road where he
was parked at and he's like, allright, just take that cooler
throat in the car. So he went home with.

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One of my good buddies, I say. I'll tell you a couple stories
about him. He kind of had like a a tragic
adult story. I think it is turning around.
I don't know. Last time I heard from him about
him, things were looking kind ofup.
But I'll tell you because the first story I tell you is going

(01:32:04):
to not lead to the second. I just want to tell the 2nd and
maybe even third because it was this one of you good buddies
growing up. So Isaiah, he's like we're young
and he's a fucking 64 Black act like he just like you don't want
to fuck with him anyways. And he was he just can't be
incredibly hard to like if he punched you, me, if I'm doing

(01:32:27):
punches like I fucking hit in, I'm trying to add like force
into it. I'm using my I'm using
everything. He could just straight punch
something and that's it. Like you're done.
You're done for the day. Humongous hands.
So we're riding with my friend Brandon.
We have a guy Zach in the back seat.
I'm also in the back seat. So we're we're just gold upon
hand. Brandon's driving and we get

(01:32:48):
pulled over by the cops and the cop immediately just walks over
to our second side. It's just.
He's. Like you guys, Guy and I, well,
we're all like, bro, why don't you get on his side out of all
the sides? He gets on his side.
So his act puts all this shit out into the floor.
So I don't know what, I can't tell you what laws are and I
can't be like, you're bullshitting all certainly.

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But apparently it doesn't matterwhose car it is.
It doesn't matter who's in the car, whatever, if they're in the
car, everybody getting charged with it.
So he tells us that Zach is really not our friend, OK.
And Isaiah snitches and he's notsnitching, but he's it is kind
of snitching in the funniest waypossible because he'd be like,

(01:33:29):
man, I don't know. Whoever's weed dad is, they
better fess up and I'm going to beat the fuck out of them when
we get out of jail. And then finally, that's my lead
man, which Zach was, you know. Just a sheisty bitch.
And he. So when I first managed Isaiah,
everybody you know, talked abouthim like he's God's gift to

(01:33:53):
fight him. And they were like, but I hate
to box like I love to box Isaiah.
And the mother fucker was just like, I got boxing gloves and
everybody you know started getting them like, oh, I was
like boxing, what are you talking about?
Now we have been drinking beers or no, we were drinking Captain
Morgan Spice Rum because my my brother loved to drink and he'd
buy it in the gallons. So obviously, I think at this

(01:34:14):
point I do like when I was younger, I would drink because
my friends were drinking and I didn't want to, you know, seem
like a baby dad, even though I didn't like it a lot.
But I would drink and sometimes I get fucked and I am decently
drunk. I am not fucked up, but I'm
like, fuck, yeah, let's go outside and fight.
Isaiah, big black guy. He has on one of the popular,
everybody knows it, the black jackets that have the furn
around it. So he proceeded to wear the

(01:34:37):
jacket during the boxing match. And I am not being racist.
I couldn't see him like I have bad eyesight, terrible eyesight.
I should be wearing glasses. This has been since like 15
years old. I should be wearing glasses.
Villa knows I wear glasses. I'm not wearing glasses.
It's night time. He is black with and black pants
on. It's the black, you know the

(01:34:58):
fucking shiny, not glitter, but they look like they glitter.
Let me love those pants. OK, that was his get up and I'm
at night time. I have there's a porch light.
Everybody was like, you should have seen him because the
board's like. I'm like, I can't.
Fucking see him I'm getting toreup from.
All angles and I. Don't know if he's moving.
Are you there? I just think I'm moving, getting
punched in a different spot trying to find them as I shift

(01:35:20):
my body and getting punched. From a different.
Spot and I'm just like, fuck thetalk or something, breathe hard
so I can know where you're at. Like I felt like it was one of
those, you know, Daredevil, he has to see where those fucking
here and there. I thought that's what it was
like. I had a fight moment where I had
to grow as a fighter. So I get my shit whooped.
I don't think I hit Isaiah 1 mother fucker time and
everybody's like, oh, you. So it got me and I was just

(01:35:42):
like, well, fuck it, tomorrow let's box during the daytime and
it's going to be a lot better. So we start boxing and now I'm
because look man. Put them fucking do something.
Get into their motherfucking chest.
You're going to take some punches, all right, but that's
the only way. If you got a guy who's way
taller than you, that's the onlyway.
You want to get some licks in, Don't try to do no distance

(01:36:03):
punching. You ain't God damn jet lead, all
right? I know this man's arms are as
long as I am. So I'd get like right there and
I just uppercuts and fucking like hooks and whatever I could
do, I'd punch him in the body and nobody, no kid punched in
the body back then. And I think in that round he
punched me one time during the second time I got up in his
chest and I ain't going to lie, man, I was seconds away from

(01:36:25):
just being like no mas from one punch.
But see, hit me with a hook. I was like, I don't want to
fucking you. You've had a punch that it
didn't rock. You like it just it felt like
you just got smacked in the facewith a prick.
Your face stings just like I waslike, I don't want to do that
again. And then I say it goes, ah, here
it goes. Ah, and he turns around because

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I hit him directly in the nose. Thank God.
This week's fun. He's like Achilles because I was
laying into him and at first I was like, I'm doing nothing.
Brother, I don't. Look stupid but him in the nose
and he like turns around and does that.
And I was like, I turn. Around like, you know, my bad
ass thing. I was like, man, I'm going to
cry in the bathroom or something.
This shit I hurt. Like a motherfucker.
But so I had got into a fight with a bunch of Mexicans.

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I told you I love them, OK? And I did not start to fight.
I told you guys about, you know,the listeners about Turtle.
And now Turtle always like to talk shit.
So up at Luis's house, there wasa Hispanic Louise.
He had a white mom, no Viola, which is crazy.
It's the only time I've ever seen that in the Mexican house.
But Luis is out there with his other friends.
They are SR13 members so you know they here's the thing, if

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you're like if you are around Mexican gang members, 9 times
out of 10 if you don't do anything there's not going to be
a situation. Turtles drunk ass walks up and
he was just like man, I bet y'all feel at home playing
soccer and I'm just like man, look good joke.
Not around a bunch of drunk gangnumbers like not not the time

(01:37:56):
the place. So I was I had this moped that
leaked gay like he didn't have agas gap on it and I was trying
to figure out what was wrong, which is stupid because I can't
do that like especially at that point I couldn't do that, but I
was trying to figure out what was wrong.
They didn't have a gas gap on it.
That wasn't the problem. He didn't leak gas or anything
like that. But I am like walking it around.
It would start. I'll ride it a little bit.

(01:38:17):
I was trying to be like, you know, I'm trying to find out
what's wrong with it, even though my trying to find out
wrong. What was wrong with it was, I
don't know, Flood started it. Yeah, just flood the engine.
So Turtle and Brandon walked up.They're together.
Turtle proceeds to say that. And then just another like
racist Mexican joke. And I don't because he, he tried

(01:38:39):
to say he was picking like he was playing around, but it just
sound angry. Like it was like I was like, God
damn, where's this been hiding inside of you this whole time
that you just hate Mexicans? Because our whole friend group,
like Luis was in it, You know, Isaiah was in it.
It's not like we were just all white kids hanging out.
Like it's a very, very friend group And he's like walking up.

(01:39:00):
So Isaiah, which is like I said,he is, he can he can fight well,
but he is also man, just a greatperson to have around as a
deterrent. Like do you really want to fight
us? Is our shit talking really
getting to you? Look at this large black
gentleman we have with us. I understand the effect he has
on people. OK, So I'm like, I don't want to

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drop the smoke head, but they are obviously and look quite
frankly, so rightfully so because I don't I'm so taken
aback. But he feels like a dream
because even Brandon's like whatthe fuck are you saying dude?
I don't know if he was trying topick and play or he just hasn't
paid in his heart that he had toget out.
But I'm like, I don't want to put this moped down.
It doesn't have kicks down either.

(01:39:42):
So I'm trying to like, do you know Peter and the Frog?
I'm a Family Guy. I'm trying to lean this fucking
moped against this trailer. And it's just like the greasiest
trailer. It looks like it should.
It's flat land. But you know, in a trailer park,
it's all confusing and you don'tknow if you're actually on an
incline or a decline. But it's just not, you know,
just I would lean it against it and it would roll down.

(01:40:03):
And I'm like, how's this happening?
Like what is the fucking physicsthat's making this happen?
And I'm sitting. There just because I'm.
Going to deter it at first. So this, this back end Stomper,
he was the first to strike. Funny thing about Stomper is he
came and worked for me when I was a supervisor at the box
shop. I was super and he was like real
cool about it and he remembered me.
Yeah, that's crazy. Because I have like a full.

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Big beard. And he was like, yeah, you go
from the trailer park. Trailer hood, we called it.
It was a we felt cool saying that.
But yeah, but it's like a white kid thing.
That's the trailer hood. Like that is, he wouldn't.
Mind. Like one of my buddy calls it a
trail so. Every, every responsible adult
that had like a, a crazy upbringing, like where they did

(01:40:45):
a bunch of drugs and psychedelics, but still like
grew up and was like, it's time for me to grow up.
You know what I'm saying? They said things like trailer,
but that's how often I didn't feel like it was like my thing.
But I I still call it a trailer really, because that's where
everybody at school knew what itwas.
You know, the last time that I did psychedelics, me and my 2
buddies that I did it with, you know, we're in our late 30s.

(01:41:06):
And the funniest thing about thewhole experience was we sat
there and laughed because we arenow the adults, right?
We are the responsible adults. And like, we just could not stop
laughing. They're like.
No, we're not. I would never.
We are. I would never like you guys if I
would, If I would have been there with you.
Hey, I've been screaming, panicking.
I'm not at the place mentally todo psychedelics.

(01:41:27):
But me, we're all adults. I should be like, yeah, yeah,
we're all responsible. They all just like looking out
because, you know, you overthinkwhen you're all psychedelics and
you're just sitting. There like the whole thing is
like one of the things that got me like laughing about that so
much is just, you know, thinkingback to it was me and my sister.

(01:41:48):
We were in our trailer house. It was a double wide.
We had upgraded. Chuck all of the trails.
I didn't. I didn't know about that until
just a couple years ago when my buddy was talking about his
trails. But no, we were in my sister's
room and we were smoking cigarettes out her window.
And then all of a sudden my dad like, came in and I don't know
whether we had already put the cigarette out or we just threw

(01:42:10):
it. Like somehow we did not have the
cigarette at that very second. But he's like, were you guys
smoking in here? And we're like, no, no we
weren't. He's like, I can't smell it at
all because I also smoke, right?No, like he, he didn't smoke and
like, that's why he and like so and like they didn't smoke in
the house and we're fucking smoking out of our window.

(01:42:31):
And so like that was what I was laughing about while I was
tripping, though. I was like, he fucking knew,
like he just didn't want to fuckwith us.
Like he he was like, he's like, where are you smoking?
And we said no, and he didn't want to like.
But it's the it's the dad way ofsaying like, hey, this is wrong,
but you're also, you know, I'm not going to fucking allow it.
Yeah, but I also know that you're going to do.
That's why I like being poor, man, because my parents smoked

(01:42:53):
in the house and then I was withmy brothers.
Of course we all smoked in the house.
And then I get with angry and she's like, you can never.
I'm just like she's like even never under any circumstance,
ever fucking smoke in the house.You smoke cigarettes and she
She's since gone to bacon which.Oh fucking how you can pay for
that. We do the.
Castle, we do the castle like you can do yours without your
stink outlook. Yours smells like an inhaler,

(01:43:16):
so. We'll see.
That was The funny thing is we went from the single wide.
My parents definitely smoked on that went to the double wide.
No, no, no, that's we're classicpeople.
And then when we moved down hereto North Carolina, we lived in
this little two-bedroom, 1 bath house with no AC like just, And
so my dad still wasn't smoking cigarettes, but me and my mom

(01:43:37):
were smoking cigarettes and we just smoked in the house again.
And then I think we got to a point where I think my dad
finally came off working on the road.
And so then he was in the house and I think we didn't smoke in
the house anymore. And then once I bought my house,
there's no smoking from there. But and like some of my one of
my rental houses, the one. Now we got to be fancy people.
Yeah, one of one of the rental that my first rental that I had

(01:44:00):
when I was like 20, didn't smokein that one.
But then the next one was at like near UNCG and that thing
was just like, I think the wholefront yard was an ashtray, like
it was sand and then thousands of cigarette.
Butts. Hell yeah.
You walk inside and you look at the walls and they're yellow and
you're my people. My people.
You just rub it. My ancestors have been here.

(01:44:22):
We, my kind has been in here. We have like the, my buddy
Brandon played a show and we have the after party there.
It was like a movie. Like there was literally like
200 people in our little frat house that wasn't a frat house.
It was fucking chaos, right? We there was one of our
roommates. There was me and Brandon that
lived there. And we took all of our valuable

(01:44:43):
expensive shit and just stuck itin the other guy's room because
he wasn't coming home to sleep that night anyway.
So we just like took TV's and guitars and all the like game
systems and movies and everything was just packed into
this fucker's room because he wasn't going to come home.
And we locked that up. And then the rest of it was just
smart because. How many house if you went to
where the like, the owner immediately regrets having a
house party where he invited people he did not know and.

(01:45:07):
Wow. Well that's the thing with being
by UNCG though. We invited like they have the
show. Most of the people going to
those shows are friends that like, I mean, yes, there's some
random people that are like, I love this band, but for the most
part it's like all friends. Like, oh, we love Brandon and we
want to support him. So that was the bulk of
everybody. But since it was down at UNCG,
like it was just one of those things where if there was

(01:45:28):
something going on and people were walking through the
neighborhood, they'd be like, well, let's just stop at this
part. And so people just be walking
in. And so like our whole front yard
had probably like 100 people in it and then all through the
house and then a fire in the back.
And it was just. You're going to a party who are
not accepted out. Oh yeah, Where you walk in?
They're like, who the fuck are these guys?
And I'm just like, look, I respect it because I'm like

(01:45:49):
responsible guy. But you also feel super
embarrassed because then the whole party stops and you all
like, you guys fucking lost or whatever.
And then one guy's like, well, well, well, Dave said I could
be. He's like, who the fuck is Dave?
Like who the fuck? And they're like Rick's friend
and like Rick your fucking friends and bite people over to
my fucking house. And I'm like, bro, we should
probably just get out of here. We we actually were just about
to leave. We were so.
Anthony is turtles brother and Itold you they're night and day

(01:46:11):
different, like ants. Really calm does want to fight.
So we go over to a guy's house and I'm going to get back to the
fucking Mexican story. Yeah, Isaiah story in a in a
second. So we we go over to this one
guy's house and and I don't knowhow much alcohol he was
consuming, but he was talking tothis girl and he fancied this

(01:46:31):
girl. And I guess, no, I guess during
this, now this is already different, different old city I
live in now this is. After about the circle back to
Danielle, I think this is. After my first senior year where
I dropped out and then, you know, I go to jail and I'm like,
I got to turn my life around, which was the best thing because
I was like, I told the judge I was like, yeah, I got to go back
to school. And he was like, you do young
child, young beautiful white child, You do have to go back to

(01:46:54):
school. I do feel like if I was black in
that scenario, he'd be like, yeah, all school, you go to
school. The school of does life.
Probably not. But he was just like, look at
this. Beautiful, cute white child.
Listen, I've sat in court and I've seen a white woman who
stole all sorts of TBS and stufflike that and he's just like the
judge is sitting there and he was just like, I know, you know,
that's why any mother would havelike meat, meat and shit.

(01:47:16):
That's what moms, They don't fucking do all this.
And then a black guy who fuckingwe got to a fight.
He's like, you guys are just always out there angry.
Aren't you always? Let's see, you're not done
anything. So this is the start of your
violence, spring of crimes like a mom.
He's just like rattling off all this shit that she's done.
She's like, you're just out heretrying so hard to feed your kids
because you were a single mom, man Be beautiful.
Just so tough for you. But afterwards OK, so and we go

(01:47:41):
over to the house and he is drinking a copious amount.
So I was distracted because thisgirl listen, I am a guy who I
will listen. Big girls are not off the menu,
OK, They are firmly on the menu for me.
But I was in mic mode. That's what I call like top of

(01:48:01):
my game. I was in mic mode and I was
talking to another girl that wasthere.
So I this girl obviously was heavily infatuated with with me.
So this is after this is like I said, the first the first time I
went to my senior year. So I drop out because I'm like
too cool for school or whatever.And I would do things my own way

(01:48:23):
and find a job which I could not.
And I think she was also in like10th grade and I was like,
that's, you know, too big of a age gap for me.
I'm going after this woman who was just I get a senior in
school. I think she's like four months
older than I am. But so I am in the process of
talking up Turtle to this girl who is just like, I want to have
sex with you right now. Like she is saying it and like

(01:48:45):
grinding up on me. And I pushed her off because it
doesn't work that well hitting on another girl if you have
another girl, you know, trying to flirt with you.
So. And I am talking about Turtle
like he is a vehicle of sex. And I'm like, yeah, my man
Turtle here. I mean, I, I ain't seen a girl
honestly that's came out of the same room with him that wasn't

(01:49:05):
just absolutely fucking satisfied.
Bro was just like a Casanova. It's so hard to beat women off
of. Which is true.
I've never seen him come out of the door with any female.
I've never seen him get a girl. So I was just like he is.
And I'm. Talking him up too because I
know like I think he had at thispoint I've known him for a year
and a half and I had never seen a girl be interested in them and

(01:49:30):
eventually. He does.
Get with her and they have a child together.
Now he does meth and shit. He's fucking lost his way and
went down a bad path. But I digress.
Once again, you're welcome buddy.
I gave you the kid that you never cared about.
So I'm in the process of doing that.
I look over and Anthony, once again, chill.

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Guy doesn't know altercations. Everybody's this guy's friend.
He is for some reason going Hadouken and doing a jumping
uppercut, punching holes in thisguy's ceiling.
Yeah, he's outside. So I'm like, I'm pretty sure
when he sees this, he is going to have a, a, a little bit of a

(01:50:16):
problem with it. Now this is back during the
Night Night era. So we have fucking everybody
with us. Like every single, we're like 15
deep and hanging out. So he comes in.
He's actually friends with our friend Nate.
Nate, how do I describe him? He was like a pretty boy, dumb
as a box, rocks. I love him.
I think he did turn his life around because he got into

(01:50:37):
trouble. But he turned his life around,
found God. I don't know, you know how much
that means to somebody else. We found God and turned his life
around. All right, good for him.
So him and Nate come in and theyare just, they start punching
holes in the wall too. And I'm just like, does he own?
Like he doesn't like he rents out the house.
I was like, he does. I was like, obviously this is

(01:50:59):
like a roommate situation. No, just rents out the house and
they're all just punching holes in the walls.
And I'm like, so I'm going over there and like, guys, this is
something we're going to regret the next day, right?
Because I told you I don't like to drink.
So sometimes I'll have taken oneor two shots and I'm the
responsible guy. He's supposed to watch if Turtle
takes too much blood pressure medication because someone sold

(01:51:20):
it to his glob. And like I feel like I'm the
responsible one right now. So I'm sitting there talking to
Nate. This one guy comes in.
He's since passed away. I'm not going to mention his
name, but somebody had taken hiscocaine.
So he's like, we all help me search for it.
He is not a friend. I do not know him.
One of my friends then Alert me that he actually has it.

(01:51:41):
He did take it and he's already done some of it.
So I proceed because this guy isvery upset about it.
I was like, I'm gonna help you look around for it.
OK, So I help him look around for it.
I know where his coke is. It is firmly within my friend's
pocket. They I think they're in the
bathroom doing it. So we're we're outside and you
fucking flashlight in the yard. I think it's before, you know,
phones had a real good flashlights on flashlight in the

(01:52:02):
yard. Well, did you walk away from it?
And he was like, I think I went to the convenience.
I was like, maybe he's had a convenience store brother, I'm
too drunk drive over there. And he's just like, fuck, man.
Like he's upset about it, which I would be, right?
I'm helping them look for it. And somebody comes up to me and
they're like ants on top of the water tower.
I'm like, what? What do you mean ants on top of

(01:52:22):
the water tower? So the girl that he was talking
to did not fancy him back and hejust couldn't find love, man.
And he was fucking. He was done, brother.
He was, he was just, I fucking nobody cares about me.
My rap career ain't taking off. And I'm like.
Brother, I don't think people know about your rap career.
I don't see you guys are promoting like you should if you
did, because I am not going to that once we get to heights and

(01:52:45):
a watchtower's up there. So we have obviously people's
going up there. Nay goes up there, which I'm
like you're not going to help. Well, you joined in with him
when he was fucking hot duking the next day he was just like,
that's why I don't touch tequila.
And I was like, isn't drunk justdrunk like I've never done, Like
I've never drank alcohol and waslike this.
Is a different. Kind of drunk.
It's it is weird. Like, I mean, not that I think

(01:53:08):
that it's like full, not that I think that it's fully like
specific. I know a lot of people have
different reactions to differentkinds of liquor, but I know
there are certain liquors when I've drank it, I've been more
emotional versus more violent. My my more violent one was run.

(01:53:32):
I would get definitely more aggressive with the clear rum
was. My I think people just get drunk
and then they react to whatever feeling they're having right
then. Because Amy, when she drinks
tequila, either she is a seductress who is about to take
my soul violently with her vagina, or she won't punch me in

(01:53:55):
the face and then violently takemy soul with her vagina.
Well, but see that that's also like she just has the one and
she just does that one Like she it's not like she.
Yeah, but. It's like different.
Yeah. So what I'm saying though is
like, yes, if you drink the sameone over and over again, your
feelings will kind of adjust. Like if you're kind of sad,
you're there's. Science behind it.

(01:54:16):
I don't know that there's science, but like, I mean, I've
definitely seen people that likewhen they drink vodka, it's like
a shit show overnight. But if they were to just drink
whiskey? They're fine.
When I was like 9 years old thatwe went to a campsite and High
Rock Lake, Knock Knocks, I triedto remember the name of it.
Knock Knocks. It was a old kind of thing.
It's been since closed down or ownerships been changed and they

(01:54:40):
call it something else. But country people, if we have,
if we learned that was the name,that's the name forever.
Well, yeah, just like you call Ron oodles and noodles.
Yeah, and you've never called itanything?
Else the Speedway by my grandma's house is the surf code
because that's what it originally was and it became
wheel code, then it became a Hess, then it became Speedway.
But it's still. Still Circle or Hess because a

(01:55:00):
lot of my when I moved back downwith my brothers, we just called
it the Hess because that's what it was.
And you can't keep changing yourname.
I'm just going to call it what it was, but what the fuck was I
talking about? The different liquors and why
people like act different before.
Then. I mean, we're talking about
Isaiah stories and I don't thinkyou.
Oh fuck, that was wait, yeah, yeah.

(01:55:21):
So all right, I'm going to finish this story, then we're
going to wrap up because it's been, I feel like a decently.
We're at it's 11:31 at night. What time do we start this?
We got. Here at 9 I think you so this.
Is almost a 2 hour long episode Yeah so OK so like I said, the
moped we should I start from thebeginning.

(01:55:42):
I don't know if people have retained the story that we just
got you. Could you could as long as you
Cliff note. To Cliff Notes, my friend
Louise, he has some Sr. 13 members there and Turtle walks
up and I is trying to pal aroundbut it's just saying racist
things in an aggressive tone andwe don't know what's going on.
Also, I told y'all guys, you know, Turtle was a very

(01:56:03):
aggressive person. Like he you breathe and he took
that, you know he took that witha fence.
Like he, he is at the drop of a hat.
He is ready to throw down and cannot fight a lick.
So I'm trying to set the moped up.
They're walking up. As they're walking up, Turtle
takes off running, which is literally the least Turtle thing
he's ever done because I'm, you know, five guys.

(01:56:24):
He's literally Randy from South Park.
I thought this was America. I'm not done with you yet after
getting fucking pummeled bro. You will stand up and be like
where are you? Going pussy and I was like
brother what? It's like you are.
Getting. Clobbered.
That's one thing too, if like myfriends having a one-on-one, we
generally accept the one-on-one rules.
Generally, sometimes we'll be like, yeah, come on down here

(01:56:48):
and have a one-on-one with them.Come see if you don't get beat
up. Now if you start it, that's a
different thing. Turtle.
Not a lot of people were jumpingin turtle fights because.
As long as he's as long as he's again, his ass kicked for
something that he deserves to get his ass kicked for, like
then that's, you know, just he asked for it, so he gets it.
Like I did fuck man see, there'sso many stories I have a turtle

(01:57:10):
that but. No, we're on Isaiah, right?
Next, next, next, next podcast, look into Second Isaiah.
Story No, that was third. This is the first.
This is the Isaiah story, though.
Next next podcast episode I'll talk about the time that I sat
tap turtle, had a fucking party with Randall and kids.
Kids went to Randall in high school and then proceeded to
have to pull a gun out and I don't want my gun.

(01:57:31):
Shout out Jimbo for handing me the gun.
He's like, he's my mama's gun. But I'll tell that story because
that one is hilarious. From now we're making.
Cliffhanger yeah, we're going toleave cliffhangers on this one
but I'll tell the same story so I'm trying to set the moped up
on the side of the trailer they're all walking up he takes
off immediately the fact this there's this back on Stomper
just decks brand now Brandon says he could he's not a fighter

(01:57:53):
he's a lover he is not a fighter.
We we don't expect you to be anything.
If people say you know, Mike hashands, which, you know back then
when mixed martial arts wasn't athing I did you could consider
me having hands if today someonewas like, yeah, my boy's an MMA
fight you know he he trains in, you know Taekwondo, Brazilian

(01:58:14):
tradition, a little bit more Thai, Thai boxing.
I would be like, no, that's how I'm not.
Also, I'm just probably not going to get into a fight
regardless because I'm like I got 20 seconds of just backing
up on the attire. But Greg is not a fighter, so he
gets hit by a stomper. I got to jump in.
So right now it is I'm going to name off all their names too.

(01:58:36):
It was Chucky, Stomper, Buck. I can't remember the other guy
and Louise. Now Louise is not fighting.
He is, I don't know if he's trying to like play into it, but
he is being aggressive or activeaggressive, which I I get it
because once again, he's also a loving art fighter and he has a
baby. So there Chucky and Stomper

(01:58:57):
primarily the two people fight for Brandon.
So I jump in and look Mike got alittle bit of footwork.
I still to this day all right and I I can look good stylishly
doing it. I know enough, especially if
somebody doesn't know anything, you know, you get out there, you
do a little bit of footwork, yougot some fucking, you know how
to fucking, you know how wide you got to spread his legs.
You know, I'm fucking shifting back and forth.

(01:59:18):
So I'm like sitting there and just jabbing Stomper and he is
intoxicated. So if you are completely sober
versus 3 intoxicated guys, you will look good.
It's 3 drum guys. They fucking really don't know
what they're doing. So the first one to come up was
my brother Justin, I think he was.
He's at some picnic tables. I wish you knew the layout

(01:59:38):
because it's like 3 trailers andthen it's Jonathan's house and
he's friends with Jonathan. That they were like the part
where they were thickest thievesthe time they were really close.
So he's over at the picnic tables and he's already run up
and he has like this little wooden baseball bat that's
probably like that long. And as I'm fighting Stomper, I
don't realize there's three people.
I can't keep my eyes on everybody at the same time.

(01:59:59):
And also I'm just like kind of clown Stomper right now.
Well, they take turns, right? We can only fight one person at
a time. And the other guy?
Just that's it really, really felt like that too, because like
I said, as I'm like standing there with Chucky and Stomper,
my shift really turns to Stomper.
I don't know what the other two are doing.
If they're like just like hypingup being aggressive, or they're
like, because they talked about Stomper, like he could fight, we

(02:00:20):
would find out that he could notfight.
Drum story aside. So I'm sitting there a bunch of
Stomper and the next thing I know, I turn around and the
whole neighbourhood's coming up and everybody has weapons in
their hands. I'll talk about right this.
Is like Trailer Park Boys. No, it's like the longest shower
where the black people walk up, but it's all white people, just

(02:00:41):
rednecks, moms, all sorts of shit, just tire irons, all this
shit. And then we're like.
Anchorman. When?
When? Yeah, so except.
For if they all came one time except for my fat ass middle.
Brother who does? Not have a shirt on and is
playing a guitar and he he cannot play.
So he's like, he's just like walking across the field

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strumming. He's like, no, there's no
anticipation like he's not there's no he's just calling as
a cucumber just walking up playing guitar.
So I don't know this, but Chuckygoes inside, he grabs a steak
knife because he's just like, I'll stab this motherfucker.
And I did not know that. So when he comes out with it,

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he's on some like Michael Myers shit.
I'll pull this after the fight that he got, like within, I want
to say four or five feet from mewith the Michael Myers gesture,
want to stab me. And my brother hit his fucking
forearm with the baseball bat and knocked it out of his hand.
And then somebody just ran up and grabbed the knife Also too

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all those people walk up. I'm still fighting two people.
I don't know how this is a thing.
I'm still fighting two people. They are insanely drunk and I
am. I look good man like and people
are people won't let the dusty story.
Dusty spit. His fault.
He's also. Drunk like that is a big thing.
People cannot fight. You think you can fight when
you're drunk? You cannot fight.
You are not no drunken masters. It's not what's happening.

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So I say it finally shows up. Now I might be friends with
Isaiah. Brandon's his best fucking
friend. Like they have grown up together
since kids. So he hears what Stomper did.
Now Stomper and them had transitioned somewhere on up the
road. I don't know why.
I guess because there's a whole bunch of people, everybody's mad

(02:02:25):
because he tried to stab me and they're like y'all need to get
the fuck out of here. That's not cool.
I think it was Brandon's stab, which is like a chills
motherfucker ever and he can be like I can understand fighting
with your hands, but once you bring out now and shit like he's
like y'all get the fuck off. He's pretty drunk himself too.
He's like yo, get the fuck out here.
We fight with our hands down here like men.
We don't pull out, no God damn weapons.
So y'all go home until y'all cancome back like men.

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Isaiah wasn't good with that. So he drives up and right now
it's only Stomper. I don't know what happened to
the other two, but they're walking up the road and I did
not witness this personally. Isaiah just gets out of the
park. Stomper's like what?
And as soon as got out of his mouth as a knots mouth cold
completely one singular punch. So the day has ended, which

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usually involves everybody drinking more alcohol.
Everybody. That's one thing man.
We had an unlimited amount of Percocets because they were.
But Gary, he got prescribed purchases and then there was
another guy in the neighborhood that was died of cancer and he
got bulked on her brain. He was just like, they made my
belly hurt a little bit. You kids want them?
And I was like, wow, what's the old man?
So the next day, no, no, no, it wasn't like, no, what's so

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fucking funny was my brother's ex-girlfriend.
She used to be a prostitute. Good start.
All right, but. And she would go over there and
clean up for him. And what my brother didn't know
is he would have her, he would pay her extra money to for her
to show him his titties, give him a little handy hand.
Yeah. He was like, I'm breaking up
with you. This has been.

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But she just told us she was like, yeah, sometimes, you know,
I got to show him my titties andgive him a.
Hand job, he's like what? That's not cool.
So. That fun way to end your
relationship, but everybody's sleeping it off.
Those guys had came first. I think it was just Stomper that
came back. I don't laugh to the other two
to this day. I can tell you I know they're

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alive, but I don't know if they left Stomper.
He was being crazy. He was sad because he was still
won't fight too. And I had already pieced them up
like yeah, cuts on his face, lumps on his face.
Isaiah hit. They said, you know, like square
jawed neck because like Isaiah'shands are massive jawed neck put
him to sleep. So the next day everybody in the

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neighborhood wakes up and Zach comes over.
The shady Zach I told you about he was friends with Luis.
They ended up getting into a boxing match.
Good sack. So not not a singular person on
earth likes this guy to this day.
I can tell you nobody is like this guy ever.
Like this guy. If he is unfortunately deceased,
I'm sorry. Bro was a Dick to everybody and
just conniving like the most conniving dude I've ever met.

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I know John, he comes over and he was like, yeah, you know
about last night. Stalper wants his rematch and
I'm like, fuck, really. All right.
He's like, no, no, no. With Isaiah, I was like, what?
He wants his with that Isaiah has he did he wake up and start
drinking? He's like, no, he's sober.

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He wants his rematch sober. And I was like, all right, go
over there and tell him the white guy is Michael, the black
guy is Isaiah. All right, The, the, the, the
big. Yeah, The big black guy's name
is Isaiah. I think he's getting mixed up
right now. He's like, no, he wants to fight
Isaiah. So we all go outside and once

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again, trying to be the. I'm trying to wrap my head
around what has just happened. And he was like, Nah, me and you
had a fair fight. Kind of.
You were drunk. I wasn't.
He was like me and you had a fair fight.
I didn't know he was going to punch me.
I was like, yeah, but you know he's going to punch you now.
And you both went, right? Yeah.
But he didn't feel it. He was immediately asleep, like

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not unconscious. Several minutes.
They told like they had a roll of.
They did it. He was making sounds like he was
going to die. But I'm just like you look at
him because. You.
Know last time you didn't know he was going to punch you.
Now you know he's going to punchyou and you know he punches
heart. He's like, I don't give a fuck I
don't think. I've also told this key fact

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about Stomper. Stomper probably comes up to my
titty his head. He's that little.
He's stocky as fuck like he's fat but if someone saw him they
wouldn't be like that's a fat guy.
They go Oh well that's a like a grandma will call him healthy.
I don't know but whatever. And but small, his friends say

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he hits really hard. I'm like, how do you hit Isaiah?
Like can't even like reach up tohis job.
And they rematched lasted maybe he lasted probably 30 seconds
longer than when he got knocked out and he still kind of got
knocked out. If your legs like buckle like so

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he goes up and like he's hittingIsaiah and like the stomach or
chest, whatever, and I say an uppercut something found Ranger
poses like it just like every there was nothing left there and
he goes to get up and he's just like a baby here.
And then he power Ranger poses again.
I'm like, is he is that his liketrying to gather himself stance?
But he just like because one legkind of bends perfectly to the
side parallel and he's just likepower Ranger, power Ranger

(02:07:23):
posing and his head's like a bobble head every time he does
it and he's just like, see, that's a that's a fair fight.
And he just goes inside and I'm like.
I mean you got a respected for that at least like I mean he
tried and. I was like, do you see the size
of this man that you were? I guess I mean.
Honestly, yeah, he didn't want to end it on like just straight
up like one punch and done like be held, but he didn't hold his

(02:07:45):
own. Like, as in like kept it going,
but like, he at least took a couple hits.
He was able to say like, that's a fair fight.
Brandon lost his mind. His dad died, man, because
Brandon was one of those guys where like, I like to think of
myself as witty, but you're talking about the exact moment
he could say something. He knew how to like, he just

(02:08:06):
knew how to do it. He'd always like fuck with
people. That was but it was always the
he could fuck with somebody, a random stranger, and the random
stranger would know that he he was just that good at like
fucking with people and. Like charismatic I know like
some of the most like country people are the the biggest shit
talkers that are just so fuckingsharp but loving.
Like loving about it. But they can like just just jab,

(02:08:28):
jab. Since birth, Like since birth,
you're taught everybody's talking shit playfully.
Yeah, all right. And here's the thing too is
older generation, like they fucked with each other and then
they fucked with their, you know, so they fuck with their
kids and now they see their grandkids coming up.
So they understand they've seen like kids say not good
comebacks, but they're still going to hype that up.

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And also too, if you live in thecountry and you were about to
fight in front of an old person and that fight isn't taking
place, as soon as it becomes apparent you 2 are going to
fight, you were both buses. I mean, it has to act like drop
the hat as soon because as soon as you're like, no, you're a
bitch. You're are you bitches going to
fight or y'all going to sit there and jaw like women?
That's our old people. So you, you got to learn, you

(02:09:11):
got to know how to talk shit andjust kind of be quick with it.
But Brandon's like sitting over there and he's like, yeah, he's
like, he don't want none of Mike, but he wanted, he wanted
you as if you were a bitch. That's why he was like, he was
like, I smell. Bitch.
On him and he was like, you wantto box right now, Brandon like,
you know, not at all and he's like not at all.
He's like, won't you go box Mike?

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He's like I will. I was like, listen, I'm here to
have fun like I don't want to win or lose.
I want to hurt. I don't want to do.
This at all? Yeah, There's no win for for the
end of that. In fact, I would play well.
So I forgot what he got to some altercation when I had got
kicked out of school while I wastaking a girl.
No, I did he. Said altercation.

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No, no, no, no, no, no. Isaiah got to an altercation.
That's what I was going to. But there was this guy he had.
There was this girl I was dating.
This is like the first time I was like, you know, when you're
really trying to get my life together, become a adult.
Stand up. Yeah, stand up guy.
But this kid was talking shit. He's once again deceased.
I don't like the name unless they're a dig hole.
True ground, right? True.

(02:10:16):
Ground. But he had talked some shit to
because he was very fatulated and she was like, I just got he
had those like the the time. Like I'm not saying, look, women
don't care if your penis is small if you have a ridiculously
tiny penis. And then like you say something
along the lines of, yeah, that'swhy you're getting my sloppy
seconds. That's when people are going to

(02:10:37):
pick on bro. Like she was like, there's, she
was like sloppy seconds. For a pinky bro.
She was like, really? I wasn't mad at the guy or
anything like that. So he already didn't like him.
I say it was that dude like he was, if he knew you had problems
with somebody, he's not friends with that person.
Like we're not friends. He wants to make that clear that
they're not friends. So he already didn't like the

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kid, but one night they're at a fucking Speedway and the dude
comes from an affluent family and grandma died.
He got a lot of money. So everybody knew this one night
he's just like one of those white kids who want to play
gangster, you know, got a lot ofgangster rambling on.
They stop at a sheet and he runsup with his hand in his pocket.

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Like, give me all your money to Isaiah, who is from the hood.
Isaiah is like, if somebody comes up and they got they don't
have because that's the first thing they're going to show you
is the scary thing. So he immediately just like
pulls off the shit. It's like, bro, like you, we go
to the same school. Like you have parents that love
you, like, what are you doing? So he fucking takes off running.
So they're at. School.

(02:11:40):
And he goes up to her and he's like to my girlfriend, He's like
record this for Mike. And as he just.
There's no delay or nothing, he just walks right up to him and
just drops him right there. Folds him like a pancake too.
Man, I'm telling you, motherfucker could hit so
goddamn hard because of it. Could hit, I mean, harder than

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anybody ever. And once again, Isaiah, if you
ever watch this, see this, I hope you're doing good, bud.
He got into a unfortunate circumstance.
Once again, for some people, it is hard to to get out of that
life, you know, shooting, killing somebody.
So if he did go to prison, I think it was proven that it was
some kind of self-defense. Usually if you kill somebody and

(02:12:22):
it's not self-defense, then you don't get out.
But everything that we got told,you know, we had very unreliable
sources that he had just gotten to some gang beef.
We don't actually know the story.
I don't actually to this day know the real story of what
happened that night because onlytwo people really know what
happened. Technically, there's a third
person, but I have never, ever heard their side of the story.

(02:12:43):
Also of, you know, like Gang Member 2 and High Point.
But something did happen that night.
My dad did. Isaiah, did she kill somebody?
From what I learned, it was self-defense.
He is out. He is trying to live a good life
so if he does see this go on help me out.
Hope you make it out of there brother.
Yeah, those are those are those tough situation.

(02:13:05):
I know, I know we talked about it with the, you know, the guy
that got into the car accident. But like I think those are the
things like where, you know, mistakes are made and I don't
think anybody's ever irredeemable.
Like I, I think it's worse with like sexual things.
Like I, I just feel like that's like when you subject somebody
to that stuff, it's like that one's like more unforgivable,

(02:13:27):
but right because. Nobody, you don't grow up in a
like in a you don't grow up witha neighborhood saying it's OK.
Like no neighborhoods like, yeah, you go around and assault
a woman, be a pedophile. Everybody from birth, you hear
from every single person. Even people who believe in that
stuff, they'll be like, hey, this is bad.
Well, then like with with the gang stuff though, like it's
typically the other party is like a drive by shooting

(02:13:50):
innocent people. Yeah, that's like.
That's because, damn, that's whywe got to get tougher.
Unprovable, like to like hurt somebody that is completely
innocent. But like with this situation,
even if even if it wasn't like full on self-defense, it was
probably two people that have chosen this pathway and this
pathway has led to some unfortunate circumstances that

(02:14:11):
have happened. But like your friends, Isaiah
could learn like I mean, obviously probably did that's.
What I'm saying there, there there's absolutely, that's why
like I talk about unforgivable things and then that's why I do.
I'm not sitting here defending gang members and I'm not saying
someone who kills somebody needsto.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, is if

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somebody grows up and everyone around them says this is the way
you grow up thinking, that is the way.
I'm not saying it's all black people.
I'm from the hood where there iswhite people, black people,
Mexicans. I'm saying if there's a certain
way you go by, that is how you go by.
It's the same stupid fucking reason.
Michael did not snitch on his brother when he went to jail for

(02:14:53):
his brother calling in a bomb. He just didn't do it.
That was not a thing that peopledid.
Like I coming from where I just was for my reunion.
Like some like I had a friend ofmine who I was friends with
literally from the time I was like fucking four or five years
old. And I always considered him a
friend and like in general like a very charismatic person, but

(02:15:17):
just fucking went sideways. Like went sideways in his
teenage years. And like, even though he had
other family members that like fucked up did stupid shit, but
course corrected, he never came home.
Like he just dropped fucking going down that wrong path.
And like, even though he was like one of the most charismatic
people that he had like hundredsof people that like loved him,

(02:15:39):
right, he could never pull himself back from being just a
shit. And like so it was like sad to
like see that 20 years later, he's still doing the same
fucking thing, like going completely off in the distance.
Like, I don't know whether it was like, you know, psychosis or
whatever that just he could never correct, but like he had

(02:16:00):
the bad examples, but there's plenty of other examples of
people in the same exact scenario that he was in that
correct, right. They found their way out.
They, you know, whatever, for whatever reason, whether it's
having a kid or whether it's meeting the right friend or like
getting the right, you know, inspiration to pull themselves
out of that light, this guy. And then there's like a couple
other people that like feel like, oh, what's this guy up to?

(02:16:21):
Like he was a shit back then. Like what's he found out?
He's still a shit. He's still fucking stealing
from, you know, people's garagesand going and Hawking the shit
for drug money and all this other stuff.
And like, so it's weird to just see like your friend that, you
know, he's more likely to have like pulled himself back,
hopefully right in the getting back into society, leaving, you

(02:16:43):
know, prison and stuff behind. Hopefully, like he's like, oh,
that wasn't fucking worth it. Like I took a life.
And also like over what? Because a lot of times those,
those times after you look at it, you're like, I fucking
killed something for nothing. Like nothing.
Like, yes, it was a scary situation, but like, was it
something where I needed to takesomebody out, end their life and

(02:17:06):
then basically end mine too? Because they're, yeah, there's
no hope of a fucking job. There's no hope of like the
future. And like you said, it's, it's
the way that people paint it as like, this is life.
But it's it doesn't have to be like anybody can pull themselves
out of those scenarios with the right inspiration, with the
right like guidance. I think the the universal thing
is as long as it ain't, you know, my mom, my brothers and

(02:17:32):
sisters with my wife and my kids, you know, if it's a good
friend you want to see, you know, justice and shit like
that. Once it's a kid like I don't, I
don't know why I caught like youshould.
It should be. Laws like All right, well, we're
going to. Handcuff you with your hand
right back one, let dad into theroom for mom and dad into the
room for, you know, 3 or 4 minutes.
And then if you live, then we'llsee what kind of prison time you

(02:17:54):
get. Because now it's just like,
especially people who kill kids,they're like fucking kill four
or five kids, four or five women, and then be like, well,
I'll tell you everything, as long as you just give your life,
I know you die. Like why do we got to pay for
you forever? See, that's the hard part
though. It's like because ultimately,
yes, the the mother and father would like to like get their

(02:18:16):
revenge, but also like that thatalmost like takes away some of
your humanity too to like. Give up that shit.
If it's my kid, take away my female.
I'm a take away because listen, a judge is not going through
hell or high water. I will.
I don't know. I'm going to find a way to
kidnap you even even through jail.
I will mastermind. I will dig holes.
Into jail. Secret tunnels and the first

(02:18:37):
thing I'm going to do, I'm goingto rape you because you can't
ever once you get as as a as a guy, especially if he's a
straight guy. Like Fees.
That was almost fucked up for meto say because gay people don't
be raped either. Nobody wants to be raped, OK?
You don't get raped by you don'tget unraped.
And then I'm gonna kill them. I don't know why I would kill
them, but then rape. I just be angry, OK?
And I'm gonna do angry things. Maybe you don't kill them, you

(02:18:58):
just keep bringing them to be. Just like, yeah.
Just edging, yeah. I edging with death with my
rapes like a song. I'd be like rape was wrong.
What if I rape the person who killed my daughter, the man who
killed my daughter? Because still with women, I just
I don't know, the women can decide about that.
They can argue. But we're talking about men
right here. And once again, women

(02:19:19):
podcasters, they'd be like, yeah, if a woman, right.
Or if a woman killed my breaker,listen, a guy, I'm AI don't
because then you have to have them live with it because I was
going to say you can't get unreamed.
But but also I don't want him tolive anymore.
That's the conundrum. Well, yeah, but like, I mean, I.
The only thing is killing somebody is just sometimes it's
just too quick for what they've done.
Yeah, and I think that's one of the advantages of life in prison

(02:19:45):
is the endlessness of fucking nothing.
But it is it is also like too humane in some like it's it's
such a catch 22 of like. Imagine a versus imagine a sit
there and with a PED file. OK, imagine we had like a box
and in tower, no, we'll say a building in town.
So kids who did not want to witness someone dying in there.

(02:20:07):
But with the pedophiles, we justput them in this box, OK?
And every minute their handcuffswith their hands behind their
back, Every minute the oxygen shuts off for 2 minutes and then
comes back home. So you get a minute of
breathing, 2 minutes not breathing until you starve to
death or die from whatever fucking hypoxia or whatever the
shit I am. Listen, I told you, write more

(02:20:27):
stories. You got to do this.
Yeah, but I'm saying like, if you had something like that and
you put it on display. Where you know what I'm saying?
I. Think you really got to get
like, I understand that this is all theoretical, like you really
got to get a scientist to be like, OK, well this is the edge
and this is how we expect. That's what I'm saying, yes.
Like I'm just giving an example.Yeah.
Like how long can I keep them going with the maximum taking

(02:20:49):
away the air? And then and then intravenously
give them nutrients so they don't actually they starve.
Like they're not because you don't want to leave anything in
there that they kill themselves.Well.
That's what I'm. Saying if you if you are so an
option, no like. When when you get intravenous
like when you get IV or anything, there's no neat one.
It's it's a, it's a soft thing, yeah, but they.

(02:21:10):
Might pull that out or what? Listen, look, you know you're
not going to. Bleed to death from a needle.
Yeah, but they can wrap it around their neck.
We don't help them doing. This.
All I'm saying is that if you extend their life, they don't
get to eat anything. They don't get like a feeding
tube. Give them a Suppository.
How about that every day, give them a Suppository.
Don't fucking know. I don't know.
But you don't want to give them anything in there because, look,
if you are so tormented enough that you beat your head against

(02:21:32):
this glass, all that you kill, it's like because you're going
to hit your head, you're going to go unconscious, you're going
to wake up, you're going to haveto do it again and again and
again. If that is what it takes for you
to hate the environment that you're in so much, cool.
I'm OK with that. I can, I can sleep at night
happy about what is going on. But that's you're right, though.
I would go to a doctor. We have scientists, OK, So being
humane, there's scientists here.We would see how long, what is

(02:21:57):
the maximum time we can withholdoxygen and the minimum time of
getting them oxygen where they're still going to survive.
OK. And then any doctor that's like,
why would we get that guy out ofhere?
I want the I want the doctor that wants science.
So he's he's like, yes, I'm not scientifically need to know the

(02:22:17):
answer to. This see, and this is where like
being 100% proof positive that this person is at the guilty
party is the crucial piece to this possible is like, you know
for a fact, there's no deniability, like there's no
chance that this could be the wrong person.
It it has to be 100. These types of punishments are
reserved specifically for these people, where it's there's no

(02:22:39):
fucking possibility of doubt that this person is the person
that perpetrated this crime, right?
Because once again, like you gotthe Duke lacrosse team, you have
people that are accused of thesecrimes who then we would that we
would. Here's the thing though, because
you're arresting a lot less people, there's a lot less
pedophiles right now because they understand what happens to

(02:23:00):
them if they act on it. Then they they're like, fuck, I
get stuck in the box. That's what I call it.
Just the box. That's it.
Because the box, I thought it the gauntlet.
No, no, no, you don't give it a name.
No, because here's the thing. I'm saying that it doesn't end
with like, there's not just because there's so many other
great tactics to use that this is just.
One of the. Options like basically there's

(02:23:22):
this smorgasbord. No, see with transport and then
different things like you. You run the risk of them.
You're, you're, you're deciding to poke holes in my side.
I I did not poke. OK, Yes, you are.
Correct. Like what I'm saying with like
giving them the nutrients is like, how far can you extend it
so that they don't just starve to death?

(02:23:44):
They don't just like feel, they feel the starving and then they
continue to live because their body can still survive with the
nutrients that you're giving them.
And so then you extend that. Misery.
There won't be really poop though, like because it's it's
just like literally nutrients. No, no food, no solids, no
nothing right. And it's in the box and so you

(02:24:04):
can just it can be a disposable box that you just get in there.
I. Wonder if there's like a mist
that could be let out? Actually you just intune them in
the box. So then you then get this this
also I. Can't even move and Bang Bang
their head against. It but then there's a monument
of the people. As as the box is just over
there. It's like Legos of these things

(02:24:25):
that like, as, as people like you know how like they used to
hang them, like hang say a pirate like in Pirates of the
Caribbean, like you'd see them as you came in, like pirates
aren't allowed here. You'd have the same thing of
pedophiles of just like you go to the monument of pedophiles
and like these people in football went through this and
so you never have to clean up the piss and shit.
They're just like in tune to this box.

(02:24:48):
But what I'm saying, though, is you can then have a gauntlet of
different concepts. That's one.
And they kind of like roll the dice of what they get.
They could get that one. They can get, here's the fun
other. Here's the fun thing.
Because there are like a lot of like inhumane things that you
can, for instance, strap somebody down to something and

(02:25:10):
have water drip on their forehead.
Just yeah, well, hey, after a while it's going to hurt super
poking bad. But yeah, it's essentially like
drives them insane. But imagine you're because I
like being tuned with just the the thing over their head,
because now you can't bang your head against nothing.
Your head still you just go without oxygen, just.
Cutting off the oxygen and. It cuts off the oxygen, brings
back the oxygen. That's it.

(02:25:30):
But every seven days, what I would do is I'd have somebody
come into the room with all of them and be like, look, a law
has just been passed. We are so sorry that all of you
had to go through this. We're going to let you go.
They're going to be paperwork inthe back that you can file for
all the wrongdoings that we're done here.
Well, we don't know if you're going to be sent to an

(02:25:52):
institution or something like that or rehab facility and then
they just leave and not come back till the next week.
That's it. They wouldn't even say hi to
joke. Just leave and not come back
because that's going to make time tick like fucking.
Or, or you go ahead and like that's when they switch stations
of like, Oh yeah, no, I'm sorry guys.
And then you just move them to the next station of fucking

(02:26:14):
torment and like, like, okay, yeah.
So just go ahead and go in this room and we'll get, we're
getting everything processed. We'll get you, we'll get you out
of here as soon as possible. And then you just get into the
other room. And then like if somebody was in
like the, you know, the water dripping, now all of a sudden
they're, they're like, Oh yeah, just could you put your head in
this box for I got to take it. I got to write one of these.

(02:26:37):
Just a note for the scary. But like, yeah, just could you,
we need to get your picture taken just to get the evidence.
And then that's when they put their head in the box and then
get closed in for the best oxygen deprivation.
I'm going to spoil them on kind of how my brain works.
OK, so this is how my brain works.

(02:26:58):
So we're talking about these andI'm thinking of like good
punishments for people. So I was thinking about one
where something happened with standing or squatting or
something like that. And I'm like, that would be
really hard to get somebody to do like that way.
And the whole story literally just came to me right now.
But the scary story is going to be about a man.
He is like frolicking through sunflowers.

(02:27:19):
He feels the sunflowers hitting them.
And then he remembers a time where he, you know, him and his
niece used to go frolic to the sunflowers and stuff.
And then it goes through like you know him at his niece's
funeral. And he now knows that he'll
never be able to go back out to the sunflowers and frolic.
And he never thought that he wasgoing to until the day her dad

(02:27:43):
found out about what he did to his niece.
And without, you know, he comes to his house and silently,
without a word, puts a gun to his head and pulls the trigger.
And now he is sitting here. And I want to talk about the,
you know, the, the joints in hisknees the had eroded, the
tendons in his ankles have all snapped.

(02:28:06):
He's essentially frolicking in pain.
The vertebrae and his back from doing it, he can feel as they
disintegrate and form together with each other.
And he's been doing this for 31 years, and it's become painfully
clear to him that he's going to be doing this for the rest of
eternity. So that's going to be one of the
ones that I do. So you got to paint it and I
like to do it. I'll enjoy twists, but also some

(02:28:30):
like that night story, there's no real twist in it.
The one I told you earlier. Because here's the thing, if you
make everything A twist, people will be like, oh.
What's the Yeah, waiting for thetwist.
Or they'll be like, oh so let down from that twist.
So I like to do. That's why I'm.
Trying the the anticipating A twist and there never being A
twist is the twist, right? Like sometimes the no twist is

(02:28:50):
actually a twist because you youare anticipating like, oh, this
is definitely the way that the story is going to go and then
buy it. Now what?
Was that movie with the the two dads who had the daughters
disappear and they're like, thisguy is a pedophile and the whole
movie you're waiting for and he is he is part of yes, he was he
was part of it. So you're like, oh, there's
going to be some crazy twist somewhere.
It's like, Nah, Yep, they were looking in the right direction.

(02:29:12):
This was the one movie I hate isthe fucking lovely balls bro.
And they're well, I would be like, you got to read the book
and I was like, I just watched that ass.
Atrociousness of a movie. OK, because it's just like, do
you want to watch something sad with no hope of anything ever
being happy? And you're like, no, where
you're going to. Do you want to see Mark Wahlberg
and Dakota Fanning in a movie where you think there's going to

(02:29:34):
be some kind of resolution or come on, just say it's lonely
bone, the lovely bone, those lovely bones.
It's where that dude, like, digsa bunker in a field.
It shows you all this. And then he rapes and kills
Dakota Fanning, the daughter Mark Wahlberg's daughter, and
the movie is her trying to talk to her dad through the fucking.

(02:29:57):
The wall of being a ghost. The ghostly realm, The ghostly
veil. Yeah, it sounds like a terrible.
Movie it is not good and and wasI just read the books and he's
like, oh, does like something and he's like she's like, no,
but it's more beautiful. I'm like gay.
No, I want to see. I don't ever want to be a book
where it's like and the child rape this guy away.

(02:30:18):
If you're like this, there's a serial killer who's like
masterminding shit did. You get another idea.
Yeah, it's going to be a guy whois inspecting a note from a
serial killer, and then he's going to look upon his kid like
this is horror, I'm sorry. And it's not supposed to be the

(02:30:39):
greatest thing. Everybody's looking at his kid,
a kid sleeping. You think of that, it's his kid.
And then he watches the news about the trying to catch the
serial killer, goes back and looks at the note again.
And then he's going to follow itup and put it in the envelope.
And you know, I might, I might in the because some people don't
pick up on inferred, especially if we got, you know, young dumb

(02:30:59):
people watching that. Well, and this is one of the
things that was like it's with the since it's not going to be
video based, like I mean it willhave videos, it will have
imagery like it's all just audiolike that is.
The storytelling, yes. So I have to, if I infer cuz I
think, you know, in tomorrow he'll send it to the police

(02:31:19):
station and then he goes back and looks at the little girl he
loves with the complete understanding that that love
tomorrow that love will turn into rage and she'll end up like
so many other because I had to work at 2 where it sounds really
good. So I don't know if, cuz like I
said, we've heard the monotone ones.
So I don't know if me doing a spooky voice is going to do
anything. I like doing the voice.
It's fun and I think it adds something to it.

(02:31:41):
Also, I like doing voices. I don't know if that's going to
turn people off. We will see some people like
man, it's the gay. Like that's what I made to see.
We started like it's the gay voice.
I'm like let's start 2 channels.We'll do 1 normal voice.
And then same story. Same fucking story.
We'll change up the background alittle bit.
Man, if you want to go ham and do twice as much work.

(02:32:02):
They're lightened up a little bit so YouTube doesn't, you
know, fucking recognize it's thesame shit.
Maybe we do that and it kind of AV test it.
That sounds like a logger. No it's not, it's the same story
and I'll likewise I'll lighten up the back.
No, it's not read twice. Oh well, it's read twice.

(02:32:23):
They're fucking 4 minute long stories that then like one I'm
reading in a spooky voice, 2, drag it out.
Like literally I'm like, I want this to be 10 minutes.
So I see one and I'm getting like close to 9.
And it was very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very.

(02:32:50):
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what scary voice
I'm going to do yet. I can't just like, bust into
them right now. I I think, I think there will be
a time input. Like I think the narrated voice
is one thing and I'm doing like,I mean, I don't like the
monotone. Like I would not listen.
Jesus, there's no emotion in it though.

(02:33:12):
Imagine you're read the spookiest thing and also look
chills. Does that one voice hugely
popular and if people can see itthrough this right here, then I
assume my scary voice is not going to dissuade them.
I my daughter watches some guy that does like animal stuff and

(02:33:32):
he sounds like that. I'm like why do you have to
like? Not everything has to be like
enunciated with like that weird flowing at.
The end. Stop doing that.
Why do you do this? I did a skit back in the day
where he was like hitting on a girl and he was like, I just
want to feel your nipple in my mouth and rub my tongue around

(02:33:54):
your areola. How would that make you feel?
Just she's like, can you say it in like 1 sentence?
He's like, I physically can't. I hit my head when I was 4.
It's like, oh don't feel like a Dick.
All right guys, listen, this hasbeen a great episode of MADHD.
Also, we feel like we're gettingeverything figured out with the

(02:34:17):
Patreon. We feel pretty confident that
now you get everything that you love in one place.
You get the bonus episodes, which after 2 hour long episode,
do you really want to fucking hear more more of this?
Probably not all right. We'll make the bonus episodes 10
minutes. Yeah, yeah.
Just thank you guys. We'll still fit in all the
action-packed content, but Mike can just talk faster.
And if you guys, I don't, I don't know what to say.

(02:34:39):
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Oh my God, yes. If you are a hard working man

(02:35:00):
or, you know, a hard working manwoman, Yeah.
Look, look, it is unisex. It does say men's clothing on
the on the website, but look, ladies can wear too, and you
will look good in it, all right?No matter what you look like,
you were going to look like a yeah, I mean, beautiful.
A beautiful sunset. Guys to look guys can't get
called sunsets because they'll be like, oh, you can't call a

(02:35:21):
guy beautiful. Listen brother, you are
beautiful. But, you know, like when a woman
wears like, like, just a hoodie and so like, it's a little
longer, but you can see. Oh yeah.
You got the bottom of the butt cheeks bro.
Does that look cute on guys? Like can I walk around my house?
Right. Like I'm not doing that.
Look, I got a hanky last and connects to my back and my wife
loves it. Like she'll squeeze it all the
time, but look at that little butt.

(02:35:44):
I'm like yeah, it's so far in because my Packers fucking drawn
it in while wait. Yeah, she's pulling, she's
pulling it in. It won't fucking fall out
because I got a little back. Alright guys, listen, we will
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