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Sometimes, life throws us unexpected waves—literally. In this episode, George recounts his recent jet ski accident, reflecting on the injuries, the recovery process, and the surprising gratitude that comes from painful experiences. We discuss the importance of pushing through discomfort, how our mindset shifts when we’re self-employed versus working for someone else, and why our ability to adapt is key to long-term success.

Fear is a formidable adversary, but it shouldn't dictate our lives. Through personal stories and the iconic "Miracle on the Hudson," we explore how trauma can often lead to irrational decisions and how one brave passenger chose to fly again despite his fears. This conversation expands into the realm of sports, where we question the fairness surrounding athlete retirements due to injury and discuss the controversial personas of tennis stars like Novak Djokovic and Nick Kyrgios. By examining their journeys, we unravel the broader implications of sportsmanship, wealth, and happiness.

If you've ever found yourself feeling uninspired despite having everything you once wanted, this episode is for you. We break down actionable strategies to reset your mindset, sustain motivation, and find renewed appreciation for what you already have.

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Robby (00:00):
Did you know that podcast is actually an abbreviated term
?
No, I didn't, and it actuallystands for iPod Broadcast.
Ipod Broadcast yes, I did notknow that.
I didn't know that either.

George (00:13):
I learned that recently and I said- we're going to let
everyone else know about that.

Robby (00:17):
And that's why we're here doing this iPod Broadcast.

George (00:23):
I fell off my jet ski on the weekend last weekend.
Have we not had a podcast sincethen?
We haven't.
Oh well, so actually okay.
So a bit of context foreveryone is out enjoying the
nice weather and it was a littlebit choppy been bringing it?
Yeah, it has been, and it was alittle bit choppy.
And just mind you, first timein 20 years I've fallen off.
And when I say fallen off,fallen off and hurt myself.

Robby (00:46):
Have you had a podcast for 20 years?
Have you had a jet ski for 20years?
As in, I've been riding themfor that period of time on and
off.

George (00:53):
My first one.
I was like 23, 22, somewherethere 18 years, shit
Technicality.
So the first time I came offand actually hurt myself though,
because I've fallen off acouple of times, but always just
in the water.
Back on, cool, let's go.
So a rogue wave came out ofnowhere, lost control of the ski
and as I fell off I hit the jetski before I hit the water.

(01:14):
Now I reckon I've hit the skiat about 40 to 50 K.
Now I showed you, when I came inthe next day, massive bruise on
my leg Like I'm talking thesize of a bowling ball.
It was purple, like it was allfucked up, fractured, a couple
of toes as well.
It's a bit of fun.
I'm walking with a limp and no,I'm actually okay.
It's a week later and I feelfine, like it hurts to touch,

(01:36):
but it's not hindering me fromdoing whatever I want to do.
I literally went.
Just for context, I went to gymon Wednesday.
So I did it on Sunday, was atthe gym on Wednesday, didn't do
any lower body, but stillworking out, still worked
everything.
The next day I was really sore,still rocked up to work,
something I actually thoughtabout.
Funny enough, it's like if Iwas working for someone, I
probably would have taken theday off, you know, out of sickie

(01:56):
, yeah, I guess.
So I probably would have takena couple of days off.
Hey, I fell off my jet ski.
I've hurt myself.
I need a couple of days sickleave.

Robby (02:04):
It's like a green light right yeah.
This is what sick leave is for.
That's right.
Give myself permission.
I'm not going to get paid outthis when I need it.
Yeah, that's right.

George (02:18):
You know what I was like nah, fuck that, I'm going to
work, I've got shit to do.
Dude, I was that%.
You know what I mean?
Felt 85 or 90%.
Oh, a bit crook, I might takethe day off.

Robby (02:28):
Hey, how good is that?
Do you recall the feeling ofwaking up and sitting there like
, oh, I'm going to call in sick,and making the call and then,
once they're like, oh cool, I'llsee you tomorrow, and then
you're like you'll hang, andyou're like, yeah, and then you
go back to sleep.

George (02:43):
I used to have a boss that would just tear you to
shreds.
If you took a day off, though,yeah, like working at Multiflex,
you don't have a solid excuse.
Yeah, well, that's it.
Yeah, got a headache, gastro,gastro.
That one would come in good toeveryone.
Yeah, I'm doing this for you.

(03:05):
Three days, three to four days,I was definitely limping and
walking a bit slower, and I waslike how many times before that
moment did I look back at mylife and go fuck, how good is it
to be walking without any pain?

Robby (03:18):
Why would you the law of familiarity right Like it's what
we know, what we're used to?

George (03:25):
Of course my water's clean.
That's right.
You don't think about it untilit's dirty and you can't get
clean water anywhere.
How good were those days backin the day.
Of course I drink filteredwater.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's even good from aperspective as re-grounding
myself and go you know what I ampracticing a bit of gratitude
from the perspective of whatother things in my life do I
take for granted?
Because we do inherently takethings for granted.

(03:46):
It's not it's human nature.
Exactly, it's human nature.

Robby (03:48):
So I don't think it's like this is not going to kill
me anymore.
I'm not going to focus on that.
What else is dangerous?

George (03:53):
Yeah.
So I did I was like cool man, Ican't wait.
I'm so grateful for the factthat I can walk still, yeah, go.
And here's another thing Inoticed as I got injured.
So there's three things Ipicked up A what an injury, yeah
, what an injury.
How great is that when you'relearning from something like
that, you know.
The first thing was, oh, if Iwas working for someone, I would

(04:16):
have taken the day off, youknow, and probably so would have
my employees.
But I came to work.
I'm like, oh well, my leg'shurting.
It wasn't hurting.
And the third thing was, whichI think is the most interesting.
I've been training, as many ofyou know, for the last 12 months
.
I genuinely reckon that had Inot been training for the last

(04:38):
12 months and training legsquite hard and built that muscle
mass, I reckon I would havebroken my leg.
That's massive, it's a big call.
It's a big call.
But I think I hit myself hardenough that it would have caused
some decent damage, like on myleg.
I reckon I would have fractured, at the very least fractured,
maybe not broken.
I would have fractured a bonein my body.
But because I've been trainingso hard, that's a big bone, yeah
, and it's also a big muscle too, but I still feel like it was
literally on my side.

(04:59):
So imagine, you know, justbelow the hip, that's where I
hit it on the leg.
But you know, despite how muchit hurt at the time or hurt
thereafter, I genuinely believethe fact that I've been building
muscle mass over the last 12months is the reason why I
didn't do serious damage and whyI reckon I've continued and
healed so quickly too.

Robby (05:17):
How did you say you come off.
You went straight into, likeyou hit the thing and went into
the water.
Yeah, so I hit the ski and thenhit the water.

George (05:22):
You went straight into it.

Robby (05:21):
Like you hit the thing and went into the water.
Yeah, so I hit the ski and thenhit the water.

George (05:23):
It's a bit hard to explain, but pretty much the ski
went out from under me.
I fell off the side and as Ifell into the water, before I
hit the water, I hit the ski andthen went into the water, went
into the water and like,instantly, like you brace and
hold your breath.
You're like because you knowit's coming.

Robby (05:45):
And then went in.

George (05:45):
Yeah, I was, yeah, absolutely, I was at least 250
meters from shore.
I think it was like seven,eight meters, yeah, as in out.
Yeah, I don't know how deep itwas.
I was from shore.
Wait, you didn't touch theground.
No, no, no, no, no, it wasdefinitely not that shallow, but
, yeah, hit the water.
And then the ski went about 20meters away.
So when I got up I was likeokay, I got to check my leg.
Am I broken?
Is everything there?
Did you panic?
No, it was actually pretty cool.

(06:06):
Like I was logical.
No, like sharks, oh, no, Ididn't even think.
That, didn't even come to mind,not even at all, not even now
that you said it.
Like, not once has it enteredmy mind about sharks.
But I got in the way down tothe bottom.
Cool, everything's therefingers, toes.
You're right, I'll move it.
Yeah, okay.
And then I kicked and I waslike, okay, I can move.

(06:27):
So then I was in pain.
But then I've swam over to theski, got back on and there was a
couple of guys that were onskis as well that saw me and
they came over and said, oh,you're right, so we as well.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Like they look out for eachother and I would do the same.
There's also plenty ofdickheads as well, especially on

(06:51):
skis.
Yeah, yeah, that particular daythere was, and it's a shame
because it ruins it for everyonethat does the right thing, and
all that it's going to mean iseventually they're just going to
reduce the amount of boatingzones there are in those bays.
Yeah, you can't get out.
Yeah, yeah, that's right,they're just going to reduce and
go, cool all the boats and jetskis and now down the far end of
Port Melbourne, you can't comein this area anymore and it's

(07:11):
going to happen.
And I understand why becauseliterally that day there was
probably six or seven skis wherewe were in Albert Park and
there was at least three of themjust Like within the five knot
zone from shore to about 100meters out.
They're just hammering it anddoing donuts and like there's
people around, there's kidsaround, just go out.
It's less than a minute beforeyou go past the boys and you can

(07:33):
go whatever speed you want anddo whatever you want, but they
do it within that zone.
But also, in the same token,it's like you know the cops,
like if I was a copper before Iwas on patrol, like I would just
park myself there all day.
It's going to.
You're going to catch at leastat least the guys doing the
wrong thing.
There's what's the rule?
Is it 50 meters?
It's?
It depends with the zones, likewith the area.

(07:54):
Yeah, but some are further outthan others.
It's about 200 meters fromshore.
Yeah, is the general rule, it'sfive knots.

Robby (08:00):
Yeah, they should, because it's dangerous dude,
like you're in the water andjust your head's out and someone
doesn't see you.
Like that will damage you.

George (08:07):
Here's another great lesson I've learned.
It was just a great reminder togo.
You know what?
This is a machine that I couldreally hurt myself on, because
people have hurt themselves realbad, oh dude, yeah, like broken
ribs, broken heads, lost teeth,yeah, mashed straight into the

(08:28):
water.
That's right.
I haven't had anything for oneyear.
It just takes one time though,that one time that you really
hurt yourself and that for me.
I'm glad it happened to me andyou got to walk away.
Yeah, I got to walk away.
I still walked away, stillwalked away, still walked away.
Yeah, so that was another goodthing to go.
You know, reminder, these aredangerous machines.
They can be dangerous machines,but so can a car, so is a car,
so is a motorbike.
They're all dangerous machinesand it's good to get that, to

(08:50):
have that healthy respect therefor them?

Robby (08:53):
Yeah, I agree.
So here's the thing, though.
Right, we've spoken about thisbefore about?
Remember?
I shared the story about my carnot starting, and then I was so
pumped that my car started.
I don't get zero excitementthat my car starts Again.
Yeah, zero excitement.
Well, now you've got a brandnew one.
If anything, now I start itwhen I'm in my apartment, and if
I go downstairs and it's not on, I'm angry.

(09:15):
You know what I mean?
Why is this not working?
What is this?
My seat is not warm.
Yeah, what's going on?
It's not shaking.
What is happening?
Bam.
So what do you even do toremind yourself?
How do you continue on thissame level of gratitude over and
over?
Does that make sense?

George (09:34):
Yeah, without a doubt it does, but it's got to be a
habit.
It's got to become a habitwhere you've got to practice
that.
It's all it is because againjust need to remind yourself
yeah, so hard.
The other thing I'm reallygrateful for is like 90 of the
time my son's on with me not 90,but whenever I'm out, like,
he's generally on with me too,so I'm so glad it happened
without him on it.
Yeah, that could have been.

Robby (09:54):
That could have been bad as well I I'm gonna make an
assumption here, but I feel likeyou probably ride differently
my son's.

George (10:01):
yeah, you made the right assumption, so it is, you're
completely right and chances areI probably wouldn't have put
myself, I wouldn't have beengoing as fast, to put it that
way.

Robby (10:08):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, if you wouldn't with himon board, you'd just be a little
bit more cautious, I'd assume.

George (10:14):
Yeah, without a doubt.

Robby (10:26):
You'd probably like him is happening um, yeah, so.

George (10:27):
So what are you gonna do ?
Just keep reminding yourself?
Well, yeah, I suppose the nexttime I get on it, there'll be a
healthy reminder there, and Ithink for every other time that
I get on it thereafter they'llbe like oh, yeah, dude, I'm
telling you it will fade.

Robby (10:38):
I used to do the same thing.
I used to.
So I used to have a uh, ducati848.
And have you ever ridden roadbikes?
Yeah, I have.
So when you first start riding,you're nervous and everything,
and then you get used to it andyou get cockier and cockier and
cockier and then you come into acorner too hot, and then you
just make the corner and yourheart's racing and then you turn
into like a bitch again and allof a sudden you're not willing

(11:00):
to do what you were willing todo before and you pull back.
But then the confidence buildsup again and again and then you
start to do the same thing andthen you'd have a close call
again yeah generally and I foundthere was no, I couldn't stop
myself from getting cocky again.
Do you know what I mean?
I would always just you know Ican do this like no, no, I've

(11:23):
got control, okay, and you don't.
You know what I mean, but Iwould always sell it.
You know I can do this Like no,no, no, I've got control, okay,
and you don't you know what Imean, but I would always sell it
to myself that I did yeah.
So, yes, I think it's easiersaid than done.
Yeah, without a doubt.
Without a doubt, easier saidthan done.

George (11:41):
I think it'll take a while, though.
For myself at least, yeah,Because, as I said, it hadn't
happened in 20-odd years thatI've been riding them and now
it's.

Robby (11:50):
it was the one time that it's actually come off.
It just happened.
You haven't been back on.

George (11:54):
Oh, not since that.
I would have gone on thisweekend.
It was great weather thisweekend.
I would have gone on no issuesif I wasn't.
I'm still not 100% healed, so Idon't want to push the barrel,
but yeah, I've got no feararound it, which is fine.
My missus was like oh no, we'regoing to sell it now.
I'm like relax, like it'sanything's dangerous if you're
an idiot.

Robby (12:13):
The same thing happened.
So my cousin's brother-in-lawwent through a glass wall in
Bali on a scooter.
Yeah, okay, I don't know how hedid something went to a wall.
And as soon as he went throughthe wall, everyone was all of a
sudden like to my cousin, don't,that's it, no more scooters, no

(12:35):
more scooters, that's it.
And I'm like listen, dude, likeyou're a fucking adult, like
you know.
I mean, ride safely.
Yeah, don't be a dickhead, butyou can't just like you know.
Imagine someone has a caraccident and died.
Everyone says there are no morecars.

George (12:46):
That's right, and it's also you're letting your fear
control you too.

Robby (12:48):
Yeah, it's like dude, like are you comfortable riding?
Yeah, do you feel okay, dawn?
Yeah, yeah, okay, do it safelyand you'll be fine.
And then he video called meriding his scooter and I was
like get back.

George (13:07):
Yeah, I may have mentioned this story once before
, but have you seen the movieSully?
Of course you have.
Everyone's seen the movie Sully.
I think it's called Sully.
It's about the airplane thatlanded in the Mississippi Ripper
.

Robby (13:18):
Of course, Tom Hanks yeah , I haven't seen it, but I I
haven't seen it, but Seen theads, yeah, okay.

George (13:23):
So, long story short, this airplane, it's based on a
true story.
It's a true story, absolutely.
Yeah, it's a very true story.
Great, it's actually a prettygood movie.
Not a bad watch If you've gotnothing to do and it comes on
Sully, sully.
I think.
It's pretty sure it's called Sand the pilot In the Hudson
River.
The Hudson River, yeah, whateverriver, some American river,

(13:45):
fucking, look it up?
Yeah, texas, vegas, the Murray,yeah, and he had to come in and
land the plane on the water.
Really traumatic.
So everyone survived on theplane.
No one died.
How good, yeah, absolute hero,even though the story goes.
The story goes.
The pilot got like taken tocourt and they were trying to

(14:07):
pin it on him when really theyended up coming out and going.
He actually saved everyone'slife.
Otherwise, if he tried to makeit to the airport, he would have
crashed and burned in amountain or a city or something.
So he made the right call goinginto the river.
Long story short, every singlepassenger on there.
How do you reckon they got homethat day or the next day?

(14:28):
No, not most of them.
No, most of them were complete.
I don't think anyone, exceptfor one guy.
Everyone else would have drivenhome or caught a bus or caught
a train because they were soterrified of flying.
I get that.
Yeah, I understand.
But there was this one guy.
He caught a flight and heactually went around the whole
of America touring and givingmotivational talks around this.

(14:50):
He got on a flight that samenight and he was shit scared but
he knew flying is one of thesafest methods of transportation
Statistically.
Statistically, absolutely.
It's just when something badhappens it's horrific.
That's why people often shitthemselves in planes.

(15:11):
Dude, you ever guess to seethat South Korea thing?
No, but I think I did no.

Robby (15:16):
Oh man, oh, where it goes into the building or whatever.
Yeah, I think it's much harderto find the footage now, but
when it happened I was, it wasnew and I saw the footage
straight away.
You could see the whole thing.
Yeah, right, plane goes intothe world, blows up yeah, like
the whole thing was caught oncamera and it's.
When I saw that I'm like that's, that's full on.
Two people survived.
Yeah, they're sitting at theback of the plane.

(15:37):
Yeah, guess where this guy sitsnow?

George (15:40):
yeah, it is.
It's actually, I thinkstatistically it's the safest
place.
So, long story short, he gotonto a flight that like within a
few hours, got to shore, got ona flight and went home and as a
result of that, he still fliestoday.
But you fast forward 20, 30years since that episode.
You go and interview all thosepeople and ask them how many of
them ever got back on a planeafter that, and it's like a very

(16:03):
, very small.
It's like 3% of the plane gotback on a plane after that.

Robby (16:10):
Planes are different.

George (16:10):
Yeah, but they all let their fear control them, whereas
this guy went out, he goes, no,that same.
He was the only one that caughta flight home that night.
He said, no, I'm going to getback on a plane, I'm not going
to let this fear control me orthe rest of my life, or anything
it is, and get it back on aplane.
He was probably nervous.
How unlucky do you have to beto be?

Robby (16:25):
in a plane, statistically speaking, you're probably at
the safest point.
If you're in a plane that wentdown, you're probably so safe,
you're probably so.
All of the happening is sosmall, so small, and if it
happened, you're just going tosay like that's it, yeah.

George (16:40):
So I kind of look at that.
Whenever something, if eversomething, bad was to happen, I
think I would have the very samemindset.
I go no cool, this isn't goingto control me.
Let's get back on the bike.
Yeah, depending on what it is,but yeah, of course, because,
like, you don't want to putyourself in harm's way if it's
statistically, oh, let me tellyou.
Let me why, like, why the fuckam I going to get into a plane

(17:02):
and actively jump off with therisk of killing myself?
Yeah, small, very small, butactively go there to do that.
Oh look.

Robby (17:10):
Definitely passes your mind.

George (17:12):
Yeah, but I don't have the.
I don't have the itch to go anddo something like that, neither
did I but I did it and amazingexperience it's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
It's not life changing.

Robby (17:25):
Oh, I didn't sleep any differently that night.
Yeah, slept very differentlythe night before.
Yeah, actually, you know what?
I was actually really over itbecause they cancelled on us a
few times.
Yeah, is that weatherconditions?
Yeah, and I said to all of themhey guys, great job, if it's
not safe, I don't want to do it.
But I also got over it becauseone time we even and I was like,
hey guys, great job, like, ifit's not safe, I don't want to

(17:45):
do it Um, but I also got over itbecause one time we even drove
to uh Geelong, because it was atBarwon Heads.
Yeah, we drive all the waythere.
And they're like, oh, you gotto be on standby.
I was fucking used to returningour breakfast, and so when it
was finally happening, I'm like,oh yeah, whatever, it's
probably getting cancelled,probably getting cancelled, like
until you're up in the plane.
And then you're like, oh, thisisn't going to get cancelled,

(18:08):
like how have I actually goneahead with it?
And you do get those thoughts,though, like, why the fuck am I
doing this?
Like this is a perfectly goodplane.
Guys, stop mucking around, justland the plane.
Yeah, let's not be silly,unless you're strapped to
another bloke.
My point you are strapped toanother bloke.
My point, bart, is if you had askydiving accident and it

(18:32):
happens right and people survive, and would you go back again
and say I'm not going to letthis fear conquer me?
No way, dude, I would not.
I can honestly say I probablywouldn't do it again.

George (18:44):
Yeah, I could safely say that as well.
Yeah, I get what you're sayingthere, because.
But then if it was something Ihad, maybe I should change that.
If it was something I had to doagain.
Do you know what I mean?
I wouldn't let like say, if itwas driving, for example,
horrific car accident.

Robby (18:58):
Oh, dude, I've met people that had a horrific accident
and wouldn't drive, was notwilling to drive anymore.
They would jump in a car, butthey weren't willing to put
themselves at the wheel.
Yeah, and I was like that's.
I was young, I was like, okay,that's different.

George (19:14):
Yeah, interesting.

Robby (19:15):
But yeah, I definitely wouldn't do it if it was car
diving.
Yeah, I'm sure there'sdefinitely some stuff there
there way as I said I won't.

George (19:32):
I'd be a little bit more sensible in choppy weather, I
guess.
But even other things, likeI've been on the Murray doing
120 Ks an hour.
Come off on 120 K an hour Likethat's oh, you came off.
No, I'm saying you did.
Do you know what I mean?
And there's probably otherpeople in the opposite direction
doing that as well.
Like, imagine, like you cancause some serious damage in in

(19:53):
things.
You're taking risks, you'reincreasing your risk.

Robby (19:58):
probability of Everything is.

George (19:59):
Everything is that's right, there's nothing, there's
everything.
What's your favorite?

Robby (20:05):
TV show.

George (20:06):
Oh, good Of all time, oh wow.

Robby (20:10):
I don't know dude.

George (20:12):
EZ is perked up, but of all time, of all time?
I don't know, I can't tell youoff the top of my head.
I mean, game of Thrones wasgood do you watch that stuff?

Robby (20:25):
I watch all the stuff dragons and and fairies and
leprechauns and unicorns toointeresting I'd say, I'd say
that's one of the good ones andunicorns too Interesting, I'd
say that's one of the good ones,I think, the greatest show of
all time.
In my opinion, as a man whowatches so much TV, is Breaking
Bad, oh yeah.

George (20:47):
Yeah, have you seen it?
I haven't Not a single episode,because I just remembered the
two planes crashing.

Robby (20:51):
Yeah, and I was thinking about that when you said the jet
ski thing.

George (20:56):
Um, you haven't seen Breaking Bad a single episode,
but it's like something thatagain it's probably on my saved
Netflix list that I just haven'tever watched it, so I was super
pumped.
That that one, absolutely it is.
You need to give me your loginpasswords.
Yeah, passwords, yeah, Ihaven't watched it.
Maybe give me a login password.
Maybe I'll watch it.
On the way to Vegas Got a TV inmy office.

Robby (21:14):
Ah sick.
I'll bring a chair, Bring thepopcorn.
I'll watch an episode at night.

George (21:20):
We'll finish in a week.
Hey, um Hagrid's Million DollarDay Studio.
By the way, you know what'sreally good.

Robby (21:26):
Set up was really good today we can talk about this
cloth is, but also how quick theepisodes are going to come out,
like this will be.
This will air next week.
Yeah, like we can talk about.
Did you retire in a day orsomething?
Yes, I did.
What did you think of Djokovicretiring?

George (21:41):
He is by far the absolute goat by far.
He deserves all the accolade.
He deserves all the criticismbecause he's the fucking best
and no one can say shit about itand it's fucking stereotypical
of australians to boo him to tryand bring someone down.
So you are, I am pro him likeyou wouldn't believe good on him

(22:05):
.
I want him to win for the nextfucking 30 years.
All right, just I want the bestperson to win.
I've never, always, I've neverbeen a huge underdog type guy.
I want the little guy to win.
I've never been a huge underdogtype guy.
I want the little guy to win.
Like, fuck, you Go do another10 years until you're good
enough and then you can win, oryou might be good now, but I
want the best person to win.

Robby (22:23):
So what did you think of his semifinal retirement?

George (22:28):
Well, he was injured.
The guy was genuinely injured.
So why didn't you let the otherguy play?
Sorry, why?

Robby (22:31):
injured.
The guy was genuinely injured,so why didn't he let the other
guy play?
Sorry, why didn't he let theother guy play?
What do you mean?
The guy who he won just beforeIn the quarterfinals, but he
beat him?
Yeah, so, but what's the pointof beating him and then retiring
?

George (22:43):
after one set, Well, probably an extra 250 grand.

Robby (22:45):
first of all that guy doesn't need money, dude who
gives a fuck.

George (22:48):
It's my money, why do I?
And give it to someone else?
You can't beat me injured.
You don't deserve to be in thequarterfinals.
Yeah, but he got injuredbeating him.
You can't beat me with onefucking leg.
You don't deserve to be in thequarterfinals.
If you paid to go to thatwouldn't you be?
Shitty.
It's part of the game, isn't it?
Tennis is the gayest sport ever.
Okay, let it be gay, but that'sa possibility that someone

(23:08):
rolls their ankle, but this guydidn't roll his ankle, Okay,
regardless.
I'm sure he went in there withthe intention of trying to get
through.

Robby (23:15):
So you think he was okay.
What do you mean?
I think he's a fantasticathlete.
Yeah, he's a very good athlete.
The guy seems like a dick.
You don't know him to say thatI don't.

George (23:25):
You're just based off what we can see.
Yeah, that's what I mean, and'tknow the bloke.
I reckon he's probably theloveliest guy on the planet.
Nah, nah, it'd be interesting.
What do you guys think?
So you're a big guy.
Yeah, I'm a huge fan.
I think Djokovic is the goatand mate.
You're welcome on the podcast.
We can have a chat, definitelya great tennis player.

(23:48):
Yeah, but I don't mind.
Look, level of arrogance,that's allowed, all right.
There's a level of hey, likethis is like you know.
Say say fuck you money, this isfuck you tennis.
I've paved the way, I've woneverything more than once every.

Robby (24:01):
What about?
So?
What about the?
Yeah, he's won the most grandslams, but what about the fact
that he didn't in thequarterfinals?

George (24:08):
wasn't willing to have a thing at the end, just went on
the mic because, yeah, look, asI said, he's probably having a
bit of a sook in that regard,but again, dude you are this.

Robby (24:22):
Come on, man.
You're letting some guys whomake in the crowd get to you.

George (24:29):
Are you saying the crowd ?
Are you saying with thecomments from the Channel 9
commentator?
What's his name?
Are you talking about that?

Robby (24:35):
He didn't do the interview.
Because of what a Channel 9interview person said that's why
he didn't do the interview.

George (24:39):
Oh, is that why he didn't do the interview?
Yeah, I can't remember theguy's name.
I'll know it when you say it.

Robby (24:44):
He also said he made comments.

George (24:45):
Yeah, he made comments, and then he was a washed up, he
was a has-been.
It was tongue in cheek, but hedidn't take it that way.
And it's like cool?
Yeah Well, in that instance heprobably did.
But again, think about now.
Whenever people it's beenhappening for the last year.
Do you know when it happened?
Ever since it's happened Sincethe time he came to Australia

(25:07):
during COVID, the whole vaccinething, the whole vaccine thing.
Then people jumped off thebandwagon, then People started
to do that.
But I also think it's becausehe kept winning and people were
going.

Robby (25:16):
Man, no one ever thought, nah, no one ever thought that
way about Federer or Nadal.
You know what I mean, like theynever thought.
You know what I mean?
Or even someone who can be aprick like Kyrgios Dude, great
tennis player, but like hisattitude towards the way he does
everything.

George (25:32):
I reckon now it's because Kyrgios is probably more
entertaining.
But you know, people hated atKyrgios at the start.

Robby (25:38):
They thought he was a brat.

George (25:40):
But he's done, he's done .
He's no different to what hewas back then.

Robby (25:44):
Yeah, but I guess he he's just.

George (25:48):
he's just branded himself very well, become the
bad boy and of tennis, and Ithink his branding's been
probably helped him get to wherehe is.
More so Because he then went.
He's got all the social stuff.
He then started to do jokeswith people.
He became mates with Djokovic.
They used to be enemies.
He's made it lessgentleman-like the sport and

(26:11):
he's probably the only one to doit since McEnroe.

Robby (26:14):
Yeah, tennis is the rich kid's sport?
Yeah, absolutely, because youneed a think about it.
You need a one-on-one coach.

George (26:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's right , there's a lot to it.
And to be the best, like you,look at a lot of people that
play, even that are in the top100 tennis players in the world.
Not a lot of them make moneythat they're going to be able to
retire off.
They pretty much cover theirexpenses for the year because
they've got to pay for traveland all these 101 other things.
I don't think a lot of them.

Robby (26:43):
You reckon they make you paid well.

George (26:44):
No, they get paid well, but I think, by the time,
because they'll have to pay forall the coaches, the training,
the flights, the accommodation,all that sort of stuff, I think
it's not as beneficial as itmight be.
Unless you're a top 20 player,you've got to be winning matches
.
If you're just getting out inthe first round, it's a
performance sport.
Yeah, that's right.
So if you're getting out in thefirst round every open, well

(27:05):
then you don't take it.
Or every comp, yeah, that'sright, that's what I mean.

Robby (27:11):
But you're just losing every first match.
You're not going to be therefor long.
Some of them stick around?

George (27:16):
Yeah, absolutely.

Robby (27:21):
I think that girl that won the Open.

George (27:21):
For how much do you make ?
I don't know I looked it up onthe when I was there during the
tennis actually what some ofthem went.
We spoke about it the otherweek as well.
Tennis pay yeah, so I get thewomen's pay.
Yeah, they all get paid thesame, it's a sliding scale for
winning the championship, theyget paid more for each match
that they win, for each roundthat they get through, they get
paid a little bit more.

Robby (27:42):
Yeah, I was actually quite surprised when I saw what
UFC fighters.

George (27:51):
Some UFC fighters said Like not enough, yeah, but
similar thing, you'd think Again, top 100 in their field.
You'd think they'd be alright.
What I'm talking about, numberones, oh, you're saying the top
of the top, yeah, yeah, like,for example, that's what's been
the conversation for so manyyears now Like Islam Mokachev,
right, yeah?

Robby (28:11):
Pound for pound.
Number one in the world, numberone lightweight has only lost
once.
I think his record's20-something wins and one loss
and he's on the longest activewin streak ever and took a title
fight.
The person who was first tofight pulled out last second, so
he took a title fight againstsomeone else.
I think he made 250 grand andit's like this is the person at

(28:36):
the top of the game, like that'snot.

George (28:38):
Well, that's been the criticism of the UFC for a very
long time that they'reunderpaying their sportsmen.

Robby (28:44):
It's also the highest paying MMA.
Like if you're the highestpaying.

George (28:48):
MMA, yeah, but you look at, say boxing, and that's why
you see McGregor and TyroneWoodley, all these guys going
out Nguangu, nganu, yeah, nganu,nguangu.
Hey, tomato, tomato, yeah, veryclose, very close.
They all go out and do a boxingstint because they're going to
make a 20-mil hit in one go.

Robby (29:09):
I looked into that and apparently the whole thing
around boxing Dan and I saidthis he goes boxing, do this, he
goes.
They set up an event, he goesand they go and they raise all
this money for the event likeit's the last event they're ever
going to do, because then theyspend all the money.
He goes.
They don't have an ongoingconsistent and he's right, you

(29:30):
don't know when the next boxingmatch is going to be.
Like there's no boxing everySaturday.
Yeah, that's right.
You know what I mean.
He's like they haven't.
They don't reinvest.
Yeah, they don't reinvest inthe business.
He goes.
We're putting a pay-per-view onevery single month.
He goes, we've got and, dude,youomenal, let's get him on a

(29:54):
podcast.
Very, very, very few peoplehave done that.
You know what I mean.
Um, I was reading this thingthe other day.
Google bought YouTube in 2006for $1.65 billion.
In 2024, youtube makes $1.65billion of revenue in three

(30:18):
weeks and it's like that's verycool.
Less than 20 years and you'remaking what you bought it for in
weeks, every week.

George (30:30):
How this question will put to me on the weekend how
much is enough money for you tobe like okay, I can't spend this
much.

Robby (30:39):
Do you think?
Are you asking me the question?
Yeah, okay, okay, I think whenyou say spend, You're just like
it just keeps accumulating.

George (30:57):
It's not going south, it's always just going north.
And you're like, fuck, there'sonly so many dinners, there's
only so many times I get cars.

Robby (31:03):
It's very difficult to spend, like you know, five to 10
million, I think that would bevery hard to spend.
I think so too.
Yeah, I think if you want tospend five million, you've got
to spend 400k a month.
Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah, I think if you want tospend $5 million, you've got to
spend $400,000 a month.
Yeah, and it's like how are yougoing to spend $100,000 a week,
like, I haven't even spent$1,000 this week.
Yeah, I mean, like, do you knowwhat I mean?
How are you going to spend$100,000 of that?
Like, what are you doing?

(31:31):
You, you ate out at the bestrestaurants.
That did that.
What are you doing?
like generally, you'd have to becatching private jets and
consistently, and yeah, you'retrying to do it yeah and it's
like, do you really need to andhow much are you on the go and
like, yeah, it'd be hard tospend that money.
Like you have to, you can getover it absolutely.

George (31:50):
I've heard that from a lot of wealthy people saying
that same thing, that exact samething they're like it gets to a
point where you buy that, sobuying the ferrari, buying the
lambo, buying the porsche,whatever it is yeah when you buy
the very first one, it's likethe best thing ever for like the
first month, whatever.
First time you get a big pageryeah, it's unbelievable

(32:12):
Accumulation.
What I think it represents isit's the accumulation of all the
hard work, years and sacrificeand risk that you've put in has
now paid off in that purchase.
For you to get into a positionto buy that car and go, okay,
I've got everything else sorted.
Now I'm going to go spend aluxury that I don't really need
and I can buy it and it doesn'thurt, and this is great.
I think it's what it representsin that moment.

(32:34):
No, I don't think that's it.
But then that moment goes awayand then it becomes another car.

Robby (32:39):
But I'll tell you why I don't think that's it.
Because even if you didn't feellike you'd earned the Ferrari,
it would still be a sweep yeahespecially if you like it Like
if it's genuinely a passion ofyou wanting to buy it, or
someone.
yeah, hey here, Like you knowwhat, you know what I'm going to
buy.
Just hey, here I have myFerrari for the weekend.
Yes, Like that would be.
You know what I mean?
That would be just as good, orclose to as good, of getting

(33:02):
your own.
You think so?
I don't think so.

George (33:04):
It'd be fucking sick dude yeah it know.

Robby (33:09):
But like, do you get what I'm saying?

George (33:10):
Like the level of enjoyment is going to be
constant, yeah, but eventuallyit's going to get to the point
where you're going to wake up inthe morning and go tick, get in
the car.
You're going to start it.
It's going to work, yeah, andeventually it's going to become
nothing.
And then it'll get to a pointagain your money's going to keep
accumulating and you go, oh,today, what color?

(33:30):
Oh, we'll have.
What have you got?
I've only got red in stocktoday.
Okay, I'll take that.
I'll just go to porsche on myway home.
I'll go to porsche, get one ofthose too, because I haven't got
one of those yet.
And then just get someone who'slike, oh, what's sex?
Yeah, they don't become.
It's not as amazing as probablyyou make it out to be, because
it's like, okay, getting in yourown car.

(33:51):
Now you know how many peoplewould look at that and go, wow,
fuck, I'd love to have that car.
I'd give anything to have thatcar to drive around.
But you get in it every singleday and you don't think you're
pissed if it's not on when youget down to the basement.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but it's.
Yeah, it becomes people's normand that's where Is there
anything?

Robby (34:10):
in life where it lasts, because you could say the same
thing about anything Like.
I know people who are dying tohave a kid and I can guarantee
you they would go home some daysand just be like oh, shut the
fuck up.
Yeah, be quiet.
Do you know what I mean?
And it's like, dude, you weredying for that kid and now that

(34:31):
kid's here and now you're saying, shush, or you're dying for
that car, or you're dying forthat chick or that money.

George (34:34):
That's what we're saying , doesn't it About.
We become complacent,complacent.
Yeah, we get used to the norm.
I used to think that about myold office.
I remember when I first got myoffice, when I first started my
business, you know sick openingthe door and going, ah, it's our

(34:57):
six years.
And then it's like the end oflast year.
I'm like, oh, I want a newoffice.
I'm over this place and got anew office.
We're in a new office now.
We've got our own podcaststudio and the other day I was
like pumped.
I'm still pumped.
I guess we'll get.
It's still cool that we got anice place that we're operating.
Sorry, it's working.
It's work now yeah it's alreadygotten normal.

(35:18):
Mad like crazy man today, yeah,yeah, yeah same.
And I was like, oh, it's gottenback to the normal aspect of me
being in the space.
It becomes okay.
Well, of course I've got anoffice.
Why wouldn't I worked hard forit?

Robby (35:30):
so what's next?

George (35:32):
what is dude, like there is no one thing you can do,
where the feeling lasts forever,in my opinion, Like perhaps it
can be a similar thing, but you,I don't know, do you have to
reinvent yourself or reinventthat thing and make it that
little bit different?

Robby (35:51):
You know, the other day I was watching UFC and I put a
multi up.
I put $50 on two fights and Iguessed how they were going to
win and when they were going towin.
So like, buy points in a roundor knock out round three, Two
fights only.
That $50 turned into $11.50.

(36:12):
Yeah, $1,100 is not going tochange anyone's life in any
dramatic way.
I was over the moon yeah dude,I was over the.
I was so pumped, I felt on topof the world.
I was like and then I'm like,what's this feeling?
Like nothing could bother me,nothing.
They're like, hey, this justhappened.
I'm like, it's fine, that'scouch, support it for free, who

(36:33):
cares?
And I'm like, what is it?
Because, like, the reality is,I could afford those couches.
Why is this feeding into a part?
And it's like, how do I feedthis more?
Do you know what I mean?
And I was trying to work thatout, dude, because I was like,
how do you hang on to thisfeeling?
And then here's another thing.

(36:54):
I saw this post by Lex Friedman.
Do you follow Lex Friedman?
You know Lex Friedman movies?
You do.
If you saw him, you'd know Beenon the Joe Rogan podcast and
stuff.
Yeah, if you saw him, you'dknow he put up a thing yesterday
saying I'm having, I'm feelinglost.

George (37:07):
Yeah.

Robby (37:09):
You know what?
I want to read it because Ican't.
I don't have Instagram.
I'm feeling lost.
I'm feeling lost.
And when I feel lost, I'msitting outside 7-Eleven and, oh
dude, sick, follow him.
I didn't follow him.
Yeah, feeling lonely.
Just one of those nights I'msitting outside 7-Eleven at 2 am
, like old times, listening tomusic, trying to figure out what

(37:29):
it's all about.
Silly brain is stuck, feelinglow tonight, even though I know
life is so fucking beautiful.
These nights make the happyones that much sweeter.
I wouldn't have it any otherway.
If you're feeling low, hang on,we're in this together, you
know.
I mean, I saw that and I waslike he's right, dude, because,
like, without the shitty moments, you can't have the highs 100,

(37:58):
like you just can't.
It's impossible.
You know what I mean.
And and then I was like, did Ienjoy that bet so much because
I've lost so much?
And generally, like it's allthe l's that you've taken?
And then you hit this andyou're like, yeah, I'm going to
make a buy MMA bet in cakey,give tits out.
Yeah, I don't know.

(38:19):
And it was like it was a sickfeeling and it was like what's
the feeling here?
Because I could have made$1,100 in the business and been
like.
So it wasn't the money, but itwas the winning.
I think it's the winning.

George (38:34):
Yeah, it's winning, because I think about that even
with our projects.
When we win a job, I get pumped.

Robby (38:39):
Yeah, but if you were winning a project, every single
thing, you'd only get pumpedwhen you broke a record, or you
know what I mean, cause thenit's like that's the winning,
yeah, and it's like that givesyou that feeling.
What's the amount of money foryou?
Same question you asked me Minewas annually, by the way.

(39:03):
I wasn't saying, I was sayingfive, yeah, it'll be there.
That's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money Like fivemils.
400k a month yeah, it's likesignificant.
100k a week how, yeah, what areyou doing Net?
Yeah, what are you doing, like,how are you spending it?

George (39:19):
Yeah, exactly right.
Yeah, I reckon it's around thatsort of figure too.
But then it's like am I playingsmall?
I don't want to limit myselfand play small, but it's still,
as you said, like you'recomfortably when you're hitting
that mark, I reckon you'recomfortably making moves on a
lot of things.

Robby (39:32):
Yeah, I know.
But also like if I was takingover 100k a week, someone came
up to me and said you're playingsmall, I'd spit on it Like do
you know what I mean?
Because but who Do you think?
Well, most of the time peoplelike no one-.

George (39:45):
Who would say it to you?
Huh, who's saying?
Who says up to you?
Or GC going, oh, 100 grand aweek.
That's cute.
I remember my first job.

Robby (39:56):
Yeah, I don't think Hormozy would say that.

George (39:58):
No, I'm just saying from the perspective.
No, I don't think so either.
I think they would be like yeah, good on you, that's sick.

Robby (40:04):
I'm going to do it every week.
He seems like a very dry.
We'll soon find out him.
A question Me.
Yeah, can you give me a hug?
He'll put you on his shoulder.
It is massive.
Koya, Am I going to ask him aquestion?

George (40:19):
Yeah, so we're going to have an opportunity to have a
chat with him.
What question would you ask him?
Because I thought about thattoo.
It's like well, what do Ireally want to ask?
I feel that a lot of thequestions I ask I already know
the answer to.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'd ask him?

Robby (40:30):
Two things.
One you know how people don'tvalue what's free.
I would say you know that, likethat's human psychology we
inherently undervalue what wehaven't earned.
And you pay attention and it'slike why are you not charging
people for the stuff you'regiving away for free?

George (40:50):
How good, what a story that'll be.
He's like you should tell thestory about how you had your
credit card ready when you didthat book launch.

Robby (40:56):
Oh, dude, you should say that I was like hurry the fuck
up.

George (41:01):
You're like what am I paying?
I'm going to pay five grand,let's fucking go.
And you gave it all for free.
I lost my mind.
You can say that no line, howgood's that.
But you would have paid 5k andI reckon probably 30 of the
people watching would have donethe same.

(41:23):
Yeah, he had thousands andthousands, thousands on
thousands.
So did he miss an opportunityin that instance to go look even
for the in the future, say hedoes another one, everyone's
going to get ready and watch it.

Robby (41:33):
I don't know, I'm going to leave my credit card here.
What's the opportunity?
If you're saying, did he missan opportunity?
What to more?

George (41:40):
to make the sales to get , because now it's like if he
does another one of that, you'reprobably not going to have your
credit card ready.
Yeah, he's going to give thisaway for free anyway?

Robby (41:50):
yeah, but then you'd be silly, I know, but just saying
I'd have to do the same thingtwice.

George (41:54):
Oh, whatever, but here's the aspect, but from also, from
now, the perspective.
I know he's saying give so muchvalue, give so much value and
then ask for something.

Robby (42:03):
His thing is don't ask.

George (42:05):
Ever Let them come.
Yeah, well, I guess we did.

Robby (42:08):
Yeah, well, when we were going to buy these tickets,
you're like oi, remember, it'snot cheap.
And I said, and then you saidthis to me, exact words Do you
feel like you've gotten and itwas like it was about eight
grand Do you feel like you'vegotten around eight grand worth
of value from him?
And I said yeah, and then hesaid, all right, that's it,
let's just pay the bill and go.
I was like cool, let's go.

George (42:28):
Yeah, it's so true.
Yeah, it's so true.
I have, almost indirectlythrough your actions as well,
because you've sold ticketsusing his.
You've sold products as aresult of his strategies in my
campaigns.

Robby (42:42):
Yeah, and, yeah, he's definitely had a solid impact
from that aspect.
Yeah, so yeah, I'll leave it atasking that.
That's one question.
Or the other question is whydon't you have a school group?
Like you, teach people to goand create a school group and
get people in and create youknow what I mean that whole
community thing.

(43:02):
And it's like why are you notdoing that?
And I worry that his answerwill be I have a school group,
it's called school the wholething, and then I'd be like, oh,
the whole thing, yeah, and thenI'd be like, oh, but you bring
your pillow just so you canthrow it.
I was like yeah, I get where'smy credit card.
Um yeah, there are twoquestions I'd ask him what would

(43:23):
you ask him?

George (43:24):
I don't know.
I've been thinking about it.
I've been thinking about itbecause, as I said, I know it's
like some.
You know, when you deep diveand you do so much research and
not only just research but alsoself-development stuff it's like
you know the answer.
It's just execution.
I kind of know, I kind of feellike that yeah, that's what I

(43:44):
mean.

Robby (43:44):
Yeah, because I feel like he teaches all that like the
answers.

George (43:47):
That's right, the answers are there.
I probably know, like when hesays it it's not gonna be like,
oh, what?
Like how did I not know that Ishould have been doing this?
Yeah, that's going to be sick.
I almost want to kind of givehim what we're doing within the
whole ad space.
Maybe it would be a structurething with, say, the consulting
work, because he's doing a bitof that now, you know, with

(44:09):
selling tickets to events andbuilding that aspect on, like
the online training type thing.
How do I blow that up?
But again, I kind of know theanswer already.

Robby (44:25):
It's more execution now for me, and I also think it's
more as we get deeper and deeperinto everything.
I feel like it's more, evenwith this podcast.
I feel like it's more, justlike you need to do the reps,
yeah, and we've said that amillion times, but like, and
it's like, well, a million, isthat it Like you need to say it
a hundred million times?

George (44:44):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Robby (44:46):
You need to do it repetition over and Keep going,
and going and going, and I thinkthat's a big part of it as well
.

George (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, I think so.
I was having a similarconversation with someone today
and it's like it's just going tokeep growing, it's just going
to pay off.
It's going to pay offSelf-awareness we've spoken
about that before.
I think that's important tohave, making sure that you know
your efforts aren't just that,your efforts aren't just they're

(45:14):
not going in the rightdirection.
It's got to get to a pointwhere you go well, is this worth
it?
Am I doing the right thing?
Am I going in the rightdirection by doing all this work
?

Robby (45:22):
What moves the needle?

George (45:24):
for you.
What moves it?
Why do I do this?

Robby (45:27):
No, no, no, no Like what is the action that you need to
take for whatever it is that youwant that builds the needle?
If you want to make more money,what are the things that make
you more money?
If you want some of your timeback, what are the things you
can do now that I can allow youto have more time next week,
next year?
And it's like understanding,like for self-awareness,
understanding and focusing onthose particular things.

(45:48):
Yeah, not fucking.
Oh man, my life's hard and Inever have time, but all you're
doing is like money making stuff.
And then it's like you don'tlike.
If you want more time, makingmore money right now is not the
thing, or it might be, but it'sabout understanding what you
want and where you're at.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
What made you ask the moneyquestion?

George (46:09):
Today?
Yeah, oh, I had theconversation on the weekend.
What was so?
One of my friends who's donequite well for himself and we've
spoken about him before in thepast he brought it up to me and
he's like you know, this is whatI'm thinking, this is where I'm
at.
He goes how good would it be ifI wanted to make a million
dollars, like profit, a month?
What does that look like?
How do I need to do that?

(46:29):
And he's got a very goodbusiness.
Now he's bought, he's built itup from the ground up, done very
, very well for himself,multi-million dollar business,
making good coin.
Out of all of our friends shipgroup, he's killing it, you know
the most.
And I was like cool, like thisis what I think, this is where I

(46:50):
see.
But he brought that idea in myhead.
He's like a million bucks amonth.
How could I spend a milliondollars a month?
That's what he said to me.
How could I spend it?
I don't even know, but that'swhat I want to do.
Okay, cool, what things do youneed to put in place in order to
get to that level?
He's like oh, this, this, this,this, this.
That's where the question camefrom.

Robby (47:17):
At what point do you think at some point some people
stop being driven by money?

George (47:22):
Yeah, because if it's just, if it's just there every
single day and they don't needto do anything.

Robby (47:28):
I was having a discussion .
It has to.
It has to.

George (47:31):
Those people that are making hundreds of millions of
dollars a week, a month.
Wherever it's like, you're notdriven by money anymore.

Robby (47:37):
Do you think Elon Musk is driven?

George (47:38):
by money.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You go to him and say, oi, foldup that tripod and I'll give
you $100 million.

Robby (47:45):
He'd be like, no, I'll double it To not talk to me ever
again.
Exactly so.
You don't believe he's drivenby money?
No, I don't believe he's drivenby money.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I don't think so, 100%.

George (47:56):
And I think it gets to like that for a lot of people, I
think he could not.

Robby (48:01):
He has zero.
He could not spend that moneyif he tried.

George (48:04):
Yeah, but people couldn't.
That's why he's a powerfulperson.
People can't influence himeither.
He influences countries.
Now he does Fuck.
He's influencing the most inyou know, one of the most
powerful countries in the worldor the most.
It's like no chance of peoplelike that, and I know there
would be people out there thatjust wouldn't be influenced by
money.

Robby (48:24):
I think at some point it only buys you a certain because
money is when you don't havemoney.
Money, initially is, is almostlike power, because it gives you
the ability it still is, but upto a certain point, with what,
how so?
Like you might not be onceyou're at 10 billion or
something, like it's not goingto do anything.
Faster, faster past that.

(48:45):
Like, do you think someone whohas 80 billion and someone who
has 10 billion live verydifferent lives?
Yeah, that's right?
I don't think so.
No, you Maybe someone who has20 million and someone who has
20 billion, yes, but like, Ithink, once you've passed and I
could be wrong, but I think onceyou've passed a certain point,
there might be stuff we don'tknow about yet.
Once you've passed a certainpoint, it just doesn't.

(49:07):
It doesn't do anything anymore.
It's like don't even know howto get rid of this.
Yeah, get out of the way.
I don't think it's taking offspace.
Um, yeah, I was having thatconversation with someone before
, someone from your team.

George (49:23):
Actually, hello, yeah let me know later might put them
on the chopping block.

Robby (49:29):
Hopefully they'll say to this because they were adamant
that elon mus money hungry and Iwas like, dude, wake up, wake,
the fuck up.

George (49:40):
Again, probably talking to someone who doesn't have
money.
Yes, Do you know what I meanwhen I say doesn't have money in
relative?

Robby (49:48):
terms Like wealth, yeah.

George (49:50):
You're not talking about a person.
Put it this way if they hadmoney, I'm sure they wouldn't be
working for me.
If they had that level of money, they wouldn't be working here.
So do you think Hormozy ismoney driven.
I reckon there is a level of itat the moment because he wants
to make a billion dollars anddocument his journey.

Robby (50:03):
Yeah, but do you think he wants to make a billion dollars
because he wants a billiondollars?
Or do you think he wants tomake a billion dollars Because I
think dude, I've been stuff.
I think he is a freak, like inthe sense of all he does is work
, yeah, and he says he says allI do is work, like people don't

(50:23):
get it like I love the game andI think he's just experienced
way more than most people do byhis age.
Oh, without a doubt, yeah, waymore.
And he's walked the path andhe's like I'm so good at this,
I've done, I've put in enoughreps, experience that I can.
And it's like do you think hislife's going to change?

(50:44):
He's the guy who gets on the endand says do not buy an
expensive car.
He's like don't do it.
He's like I'm telling you rightnow.
He's like I drive, he goes, mylife didn't change, he goes.
At the start it was like, oh,this is kind of cool, he goes.
It was the same.
Now he goes I'm going to pay Xamount every single month for
this car.

George (51:00):
That has no positive ongoing effect in my life that's
because he makes it like thattoo, I reckon, because if he, if
he genuinely, I would buy aBentley.
Yeah, but I'm just saying if hegenuinely used that like, loved
the car, loved the way it madehim feel, that's what I'm saying
.
He does it as connections withpeople, gets in part of the
Bentley club and gets to rubshoulders with other people who

(51:22):
have businesses that come toacquisitioncom that help build
his wealth up.
Yeah, it could be beneficial tohim, but he's chosen as well,
not to.
It's just a point A to B carfor him.

Robby (51:39):
So whether he's driving a Bentley or a Hyundai, for him
it kind of makes no difference.
I'm saying that in the sense ofhe's not a, he doesn't seem to
be a very.
You know, I want more moneysort of guy.

George (51:47):
Well, it's probably more for him the ability to tick the
box and go hey, let me show youhow.
Because he always says I wouldhave loved to have seen Jeff
Bezos from his garage all theway to the first bill and
document that, and he goes thatdoesn't exist anywhere.
Yeah, he could probably sitthere on an interview show, come
on Million Dollar Days, talkabout it, but he can't actually

(52:08):
see it anywhere.
Whereas Hormozy he goes, youguys are going to be able to
watch me.
From the time I soldacquisitioncom or no, sorry gym
launch to buildingacquisitioncom to be worth a
billion dollars.

Robby (52:20):
What's driving him, though?

George (52:22):
Probably, maybe getting to that, the journey of getting
to that point and documentingthat journey and showing that he
can do it.
Perhaps that's what's drivinghim in that space now.
Maybe that's a question I'llask him what's driving you?
He says he loves it.

(52:43):
That's going to help too.
But you know he's sacrificingother things, like things that
you would think that aren'tnormal, like having a dog,
having kids.
He's sacrificing all that stuff.
He goes no, no, this is whatwe're doing, this is what we
want to do.

Robby (52:58):
This is the path we want to take yeah it's a trade-off.

George (53:02):
It is a trade-off.
Some people are not willing togive that trade-off.
I would never be willing togive that trade-off.
He said to me look, you're onyour path, You'll make a bill,
but you can't have kids.
I'm what's more important.

Robby (53:15):
Yeah, it's, interesting.

George (53:19):
Yeah, yeah, but it's again what people want.
I've got some friends who I'mactually probably going to price
to build their house.
He's, they've just they've toldme he goes man, I just don't
want kids Because we like ourlife.
We do what we want when we wanthow we want.
We've just got no ambition tohave children.

(53:44):
This house is designed foradults.
He hasn't put a nurseryanywhere.
There's no baths in it.
This is for us, selfishly, butthat's cool.
You do you whatever makes youhappy, whatever fills your cup.
I think when you get to thatpoint where you're like the
money doesn't have anything,because it does get to that
point for a lot of people that'swhen you need to go well, what
is filling your cup?
What actually makes you happy?
Money can be a tool to do that.

(54:06):
That's what it is.
It's just a tool.
At the end of the day, theactual physical thing doesn't
make you happy.
The plastic, the coins, theydon't make you happy when you
touch them, when you see them,when you see them, when you feel
them, smell them, nothing it'swhat they do that can make you
happy.

Robby (54:19):
Who's smelling money?

George (54:20):
I'm sure there's people out there the tool to use that
currency to go and do the thingsthat bring you fulfillment.
I reckon that's what willultimately drive people.
I mean Musk is.
Maybe his whole thing is thefact of just getting to Mars.
But that's what I mean.

(54:40):
He's on that next level, likeokay, cool, I want to go to Mars
.
I believe that, yeah, I'm goingto go and I'm going to die
there.

Robby (54:47):
I just don't think you can be money-driven and have
that much money and still bemoney-driven.
It's like saying you are hungryfor food and you've got all
this food in front of you andyou're full and you still want
more food.
You know what I mean.
And people say, oh yeah, butit's greed and it's this and
it's like how much?
But you're like, no, I don'tneed any more food.

(55:07):
How much greed, I'm full.

George (55:08):
I'm up to here.
I don't need more food.
It good cake.
Okay, I'm sure it's the bestcake, but it's not going to
taste as good because I'm sofucking full that I'm about to
throw up.

Robby (55:22):
It could be the exact same thing with the money.
Yeah, I guess the only timeyou'd want more is if you had a
fear of losing it yeah.
Right.

George (55:27):
You don't know when your next meal's coming.

Robby (55:29):
Yeah, because then you'd be like no, no, keep a session
more.
Yeah, keep a session more, butthat guy doesn't fear that.

George (55:35):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Robby (55:37):
He doesn't fear that at all.
He'll go down in history, dude.
He already has, even if hestopped today, the greatest ever
entrepreneur to walk the planet.

George (55:49):
He's created so much change.
It's not funny.
On this one, even just theelectric car space movement See
what I mean?
He brought that.
No one else.
No one else was making electriccars before Tesla.
You know he bought into Tesla.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but sayinglike no one was ever taking it
seriously.
You never see any of the carmanufacturers.

(56:09):
Still, people aren't taking itseriously.
Yeah, it's taking longer tocatch on.
Yeah, you said that my matebought one.
My mate's very close.
Yeah, he bought the.
What's the one?
You went to look at?
Model 3?
Model 3,?
Yeah, yeah, he got one of those.
He likes it.

Robby (56:25):
Yeah, I do.
Cool car, Very cool car, veryfuturistic car.

George (56:34):
It is.
You were saying that the otherday there were so many features
in that car that aren't oncurrent model cars vehicles but
you're seeing them starting tocreep in as well.

Robby (56:42):
no, no, no it's until you jump in one and drive on and
realize, oh, they don't havethis, oh, there's no that, oh,
like there's no mirror.
How do you adjust the mirrors?
Like it's all on the screen?
You know everything isadjustable through the screen
and you think why the fuck is noone else on there?
Why are we so sold on thislittle knob thing and the
electric thing?
You know what?
I mean, and it's like there'snothing.

(57:04):
There's nothing in the car.
There's two joysticks on thesteering wheel.

George (57:08):
That's it, the new model .
They've introduced theindicator Like an actual
indicator that you push up anddown.
They've updated the Model 3.
I saw that the other day.
It's a button, isn't it?
No, they've changed it.
They've updated it.
Oh really, yeah, they've gotthe new model out now, but, yeah
, he's affected so much changein so many places.

(57:30):
Paypal, one of the firstpayment platforms out there,
billion dollar company, its ownbright it must be money driven.
Got to like Twitter Must be.
Do you know what would driveour audience?

(57:50):
What?
What?
I reckon what would drive ouraudience would be A the
knowledge that they want toconsume in their day-to-day life
.
That's why they're listening tothis podcast.
But a lot of them are listening, but there's also a lot of them
that are not subscribed, youknow, towards the end of last

(58:10):
year we did that.

Robby (58:13):
Was it the end of last year?
Yeah, we did the.
Was it the end of last year?
Yeah, we did the giveaway, yes,and I had someone reach out and
say, hey, I'd love a hat.
So we posted it out to them,yeah.
And then the other day I get aphoto.
Oh, I wear it too, yeah, andI'm like that's cool.

George (58:28):
Very good.
You should post it to theInstagram page, with their
permission, I guess, yes, orjust do it.
Better ask forgiveness thanpermission, yeah, yeah.
So, guys, if you're listeningand you've enjoyed this episode,
you've enjoyed previousepisodes and I'm sure you will
enjoy future episodes, make sureyou click the red button,

(58:49):
subscribe on all of the channels, every single one of them, not
just one.
All of them, if you really wantto change your life.
But it helps us grow thechannel, it helps us engage with
more people, it helps us getthe message out there and help
you on your journey in businessand also in life, because it's
not all just numbers, eventhough it is called Million
Dollar Days up here on the hat,we're also about creating the

(59:14):
positive change in your life.
Yeah, you know, when we firststarted this podcast, I reckon
there was an element of no, no,it's just about money and
business and all that sort ofstuff, but we speak so much
lifestyle stuff on here, dude.

Robby (59:26):
I had someone say this to me the other day and they're
like what's a million dollar day?
And I was like it started asmaking a million dollars in a
day.

George (59:37):
I said, but I think it's slowly formed into feeling like
you made a million dollars in aday.
That's right.
I want to finish on this.
How good.
Today, actually, I was watchinga video on Terry Crews.
You know who he is.

Robby (59:48):
Yeah.

George (59:49):
Good guy, get him on the cast.
But he was saying when I firstgot my first job because I used
to work security and I used tosit there and I think if I was
going to get paid $1 million todo this job, how would I do it?
How would I do this job If Iwas getting paid?

(01:00:10):
If someone said, look, tonightis security night.
You're going to get paid amillion dollars to do this job,
how would I do it?
He's like cool, I'd draw a planup, I'd calculate my route,
where I'm going to actually walk.
I'd check my flashlight, makesure there's great batteries in
it, that they've reallyrecharged, that if they're not
charged, I'll have sparebatteries.
He started to think about hisjob like that Then he goes my

(01:00:32):
next job.
Then I started sweeping floors.
He's like okay, I that.
Then he goes my next job.
Then I started sweeping floors.
He's like, okay, I've got tosweep this whole building.
How am I going to sweep?
Someone said to me I'm going tosweep this whole building, I'm
going to make a million dollars.
What am I going to do?
I'm going to make sure thevacuum cleaner's in the right
place.
I'm going to make sure I've gotpower everywhere.
Make sure the bag's empty.

(01:00:58):
I'm going to empty it aftereach level.
I'm going to start in thiscorner, work the way back, like
he started to think about how hecould do that job and that role
in an exceptional way for himto, for him to, if he made a
million dollars and he goes.
I started looking at absolutelyeverything like that in my life
, you know, and they got to thepoint well, how would I wash my
car if someone was paying me amillion dollars, you know?
And then he said everythingthat followed thereafter.
His whole attitude behindthings, his whole mindset behind

(01:01:19):
things was well, how can I dothis to the absolute best of my
ability if I get paid a milliondollars and then eventually,
he's getting paid millions ofdollars to be doing his acting
career and everything elsethat's came to fruition?
And I love the whole conceptbehind that.
I think, if you're an employeeand a worker right now, if
you're looking at your role andwhat you're doing in business,
ask yourself how would I do thisdifferently if I was getting

(01:01:41):
paid $1 million?
Don't forget the fact thatyou're not getting paid $1
million just for a moment.
But if you were, what would youdo differently.
How would you do it differently?
And don't think I'm going toget a leg up, or my boss is
going to get a leg up on mebecause I'm going to give him so
much more value, because youwill be surprised at the doors
that open up for you Also howmuch your employer will actually

(01:02:04):
appreciate.

Robby (01:02:06):
Even if you leave or when you've gone, because they'll be
like fuck, next guy's not asgood or whatever it is good or
whatever it is, they'llappreciate.
There's a level of appreciationthere that is hard to explain.
Or if you make yourself hard toreplace, even if they don't
appreciate it during the time,the time will come where they'll

(01:02:27):
realize like they'll at somepoint notice.

George (01:02:29):
Let me tell you something, and I can say this
because they're probably notgoing to listen.
I'm the first one in the officeevery day and even if I'm not,
I'm doing something somewherewhere I'm the first one there.
It could be the gym, it couldbe on site.
Whatever it is, ask me how manytimes over the last two years

(01:02:55):
someone has been in the officebefore me.

Robby (01:02:57):
How many?

George (01:02:58):
None, zero, zero.
Forget the fact if I rocked upto work at 8 o'clock or if I was
at home and I came into work at8, if it was just a normal 9 to
5 workday or whatever it is theworkday.
Ask me how many times someonehas been in before me?
Not once.
Now.

(01:03:18):
Imagine that next week I get towork 6.30, 7 o'clock, whatever
it is, 6 am and there's alreadysomeone there working.
Imagine the profound effectthat that would have on me.
The first day below oh you shit, the bed Might give him a bit
of cheek.
Oh, what are you doing here soearly?
You have a punch on with themissus.

(01:03:38):
She kicked you out.
Then the next day, then thenext day, then the next day.
Imagine it's every day for awhole year.
Imagine the profound effectthat that would have on me and
someone who values someone thatdoes work, that's committed,
that loves what they do, allthat sort of stuff.

(01:03:59):
When the payroll comes aroundand it's time to give someone a
bonus, guess who's getting it.
When it comes time when we'requiet and we have to retain
stuff, guess who we're keeping.
When there's opportunities forsomeone to make a little bit
more money and say, hey, comehere.
I want to get you involved inthis.
The doors that it will openwill be phenomenal.
Or say you know what, guys, I'mdone?
We're selling up the business.

(01:04:20):
But you come over here.
I need to speak to you.
My mate is over here.
I've given you a very good word.
Have a chat with him.
He's going to look after youand you're going to make 250
grand a year working for thisguy, because I've put in a
really good word for you.
That's the opportunity thatyou're missing by not giving
110%.

(01:04:41):
Do it selfishly for you.
That's what they should bedoing.
They should be doing itselfishly for them.
I'm going to work that muchharder In my professional career
.
When I was working for someone,I was always the first in the
office.
I was the first one in theoffice.
I made it my fucking businessto be in before the bosses.
I always got the promotionbefore everyone else.
I was always the last to be letgo.
If there was ever a downturn, Iwas always the one that got the

(01:05:05):
best projects Whenever therewas a project.
No, george is on that jobbecause I know he's going to
deliver the best work I knowhe's going to have.
I'm going to give him that onebecause it's easier.
I want him to have a cool runwhere he can come in and just
crush it and make us lots ofmoney.
That's a hot tip I'd give toabsolutely anyone in business
right now.
And have that mindset how can Ido this job if I was getting

(01:05:27):
paid a million dollars?
What would I do?
If you ask yourself thatquestion and followed suit with
Terry Crews?
I think you'll just absolutelydominate.
That's a wrap.
That's a wrap, guys.
Thanks for tuning in.
Make sure you subscribe.
Tell your friends I'm sureRobbie's going to tell you to
tell someone particularly.
Tell your mother Get her ontoit, because we're all going to

(01:05:47):
have that's stuck so well it hasit has absolutely.
Thanks.
Tune in next week, guys, and Ihope you have a million dollar
day.

Robby (01:06:00):
Bye, everybody, see ya.
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