May 5, 2025 • 114 mins
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Have you ever stood firm in your faith when everything seemed to be crumbling? After a longer-than-usual break between episodes, we're back with an intimate catch-up that covers everything from unexpected job loss to standing mere inches from Hugh Jackman.
When Jake suddenly lost his church position, it could have triggered panic. Instead, we witnessed how unwavering faith creates space for better opportunities to emerge. The contrast between toxic work environments and healthy ones becomes crystal clear as we discuss the difference between places that expect endless dedication without proper support versus organizations that recognize talent, respect boundaries, and equip their team with necessary tools. This transition serves as a powerful reminder that sometimes life's interruptions become its greatest gifts.
The conversation shifts to the hustle behind the scenes when you're balancing entrepreneurship with adventure. From publishing a children's book to preparing for trips to Peru and Morocco, we reveal the unglamorous reality of working double-time before taking time off. It's the side of business ownership that social media rarely shows – late nights ensuring client work is complete so you can fully immerse yourself in experiences abroad.
Perhaps most touching is our discussion of pure joy found in unexpected places. The emotional high of seeing Hugh Jackman perform created a happiness that lingered for days afterward. We explore those rare, transcendent moments when connecting with something meaningful creates an almost indescribable feeling – a mixture of pride, gratitude, and wonder that lifts your spirits above life's chaos.
Throughout it all, our mother-daughter dynamic provides contrasting perspectives on everything from work-life balance to raising children in a travel-filled life. Whether you're navigating career changes, planning adventures, or seeking those elusive moments of pure joy, this episode reminds you that faith can carry you through uncertainty to something better waiting on the other side.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your
favorite corner of the internetwhere we chat about all things
mental health.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Emily and I'm Trina.
Together, we're like yourreal-life Lorelai and Rory
Gilmore.
Each week, we'll bring you realconversations about the world
of mental health and we willpeel back layers on topics like
anxiety, depression and muchmore.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff,
the everyday stuff andeverything in between.
So grab your emotional supportwater bottle I know we have ours
.
Find your comfiest chair orkeep your eyes on the road and
let's get into it.
Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Absolutely.
Join us as we mind our heartsand hopefully make minding yours
a little easier.
Hi, hi.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Welcome back.
Welcome back to Mind your Heart.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So let's do something a little bit different today.
I mean, we have, in the past,done like a check-in, yeah, the
past done like a um check-in,yeah, and but I think that I
think that should be we.
I feel like we had so muchhappen in the last couple of
weeks actually, it's probablybeen like a month now, right,
since we've actually recordedyeah, because we like, when we
(01:19):
last recorded was longer thanwhat we normally did.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because we started doing every other week, so I
think it's been.
It's been more than a month,yeah it's been a while I feel
like it's been a couple ofmonths.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it does feel like it's been long.
So I feel like it's been sincebefore um jake got laid off oh,
we even just discussed that, sowe got a lot to to catch up on
and, um, I mean, as far as ourlisteners, they just heard our
episode where we were talkingabout slang, slang, slang, slang
(01:58):
okay, slang, I thought you saidslaying like s-l-A-Y-I-N-G and
I was like mm slay.
Yeah, we could have put thatword in there.
Actually, if you had put yourown millennial words because
you're right on the cusp, thenit would have gone better.
I'm a zillennial.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Zillennial.
Whatever, that's not a realthing.
Zillennial.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think you have something in your tooth, oh, I
do.
Good thing this isn't onYouTube anymore.
I don't even know which toothit is.
No, it's on that side.
It's lettuce.
You can keep going while I tryto figure this out.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, so I guess that's the first thing I'll
start with.
Jake got laid off.
That was a long process, um, hecurrently now has a job, so, um
, good, I'm glad you told thatyou didn't leave him in suspense
yeah, which is really reallygood.
Um it's he got like it'sbasically a pretty big promotion
(03:02):
and it's with like a new, it'sa new avenue.
He used to be working with thechurch that's pretty much all
he's ever worked for Differentchurches and this step kind of
led him to get out of that,which I am very excited about,
(03:24):
and he's also very happy aboutum.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it was definitely more of like um, there was
resistance on his end with thatbecause he feels called for sure
, he's got like a greaterpurpose and he feels he's got
service in his blood, so he hecan't help that part.
However, however, understandingexactly how he feels not being
(03:48):
called to a church but feelingcalled to a profession that felt
like in service of othersteaching I can understand.
It's a really hard thing to letgo of and to think about.
How am I going to provide formy family or take care of myself
or take care of my kids or takecare of my wife and all those
things?
And I think it's a beautifulthing that we have people that
(04:11):
are willing to do jobs.
I just wish that we would paythem more.
I just wish that it would be.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I also don't think it's just the pay.
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think it's the mentality too.
It's very much the mentality,and it's very much like we
expect more, more, more, and weare going to give you less, less
, less.
It really is a very brokenmentality and it's constantly.
Well, it's in the service ofwhatever, and in this case, it's
in the service of God, and mycase is in the service of the
(04:41):
children.
It's about the kids, alwaysabout the kids.
I just went to a trainingyesterday because I like to stay
current to what's going on,especially because I create
resources for kids and forteachers, and they were talking
about AI in the classroom, which, you know, I had one-to-one
iPads.
I would have been all over this.
This would have been like, sofun for me, and I'm listening to
(05:05):
these trainings and they'relike, and one of the first
things they said was well, youknow, we're doing it for the
kids, and I was like it was likenails on a chalkboard, because
every time people have to saythat to you, that's why you're
in.
It is for the kids.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You don't need to be reminded of that every single
time, and when people say that,you know they're getting ready
to manipulate you or use you insome way it's kind of like when
people are like acting racistand they're like, well, I have a
black friend like gosh, youknow.
It's like that similar likewhere they're like trying to
excuse whatever the bad behavioris with like the thing that is
(05:43):
supposed to be the good part ofit, almost, you know, well, it
does feel manipulative.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It does feel like it's a manipulation tactic and I
just I don't know, I feel veryturned off by that.
I mean, that might be my ownpersonal experiences, but I just
feel like I don't know it, justugh.
So I am actually really happywe don't have to keep harping on
that point, because I reallycould go on and on.
But I'm really happy that Jakehas found something that not
(06:14):
only recognizes his exceptionaltalent but compensates him
fairly.
And also, it's not even justabout the pay, it's about like,
it's time to go, it's time toleave.
I'm going to honor yourboundaries.
You're not.
You don't have to take thishome with you.
You don't have to.
I don't expect you to befinished with this by tomorrow
(06:35):
morning at eight o'clock, eventhough it's five in the evening.
You know, it's just, it's sorefreshing.
And also, they gave him like,didn't they give him like a gift
when he came as well?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They gave him like a massive gift bag.
They've provided him with alaptop so like he doesn't have
to use his personal one.
They gave him the tools for thejob.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I know crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is what I mean, this is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean as people that work in nonprofit or in public
whatever, or churches they don'tget the tools for the job.
I remember showing up at amedia specialist as a new media
specialist in a Title I schoolthat had funds because they were
Title I, they had more money onfunds.
I had zero crayons, zeropencils, no paper, yes, no
(07:29):
staplers, no staples, nopaperclips, nothing.
And I'm like what?
And I had to have to teachclasses all day.
This is when I was on therotation and I'm like I don't,
what am am I?
What am I going to do?
They have to have crayon.
I had to do a go fund me sothat I could get essential
(07:50):
supplies.
And then they were like you'renot allowed to do a go fund me
and I'm like, well, you can comearrest me because what do you
mean?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
you're not okay?
Well, then, provide me with thetools I need.
Yeah, they they said I wasn'tallowed, but I did it anyway,
and it got sent to the school.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I didn't try to, they said I wasn't allowed, but I
did it anyway and it got sent tothe school.
I didn't try to hide it and Igot like tons of and you know
who donated Nanny and Steve andMiss Sergi, Like those people
that basically donated and I'mlike this is my friends and
family, and so you know.
Oh well, I got the materialsand I had what I needed.
(08:23):
There was no other way.
It's unbelievable to think thatyou would go to a job and they
would not give you the tools youneed, and that's one thing that
I appreciate about working fora company or work I mean, even
in the I don't know what do youcall it like in the trade
(08:43):
industry.
They don't expect you to cometo the job and like provide all
of your own materials.
I do think you have to build,like a tool set or whatever, a
toolkit, but they give youthings in the meantime.
Maybe you want your own tools.
I don't know exactly how thatworks, but why?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They still give you stuff, because I remember
Jackson got still give you stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And because I remember Jackson got a lot of
stuff when he went and worked ona job site.
He I was in shock when he camehome with like multiple shirts.
You know his hard hat.
You know a koozie, a littlestress hard hat that I love.
I don't know where that thingis because I used to walk around
with that thing constantly andyou know some basic.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He got all that stuff too.
He got a hard hat, he gotshirts, he got his vest.
He got like all of his like PTEstuff, like yeah, all of it's
like provided.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, even PTE.
That's another example.
Like during COVID, theyprovided us with I don't even
think they did, or maybe theydid, or maybe they did one mask
and that was it, and youbasically were expected to wear
that mask over and over again.
And because I did that, I gotan infection on my nose and
(09:58):
ended up having some kind of acyst on my nose that now my nose
, at the tip of my nose, ispermanently deformed thanks to
that and, um, it was crazy.
I'm like you're not gonna buyus masks.
We have to wear them.
You're not gonna buy them.
It was so insane.
And hand sanitizer and oh goshyeah so Jake got a new job.
(10:22):
Yeah, all right back to thepoint.
Jake got a new job and they aretaking care of him, yeah, most
importantly, and he's happy yes,this is his second.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's his second week this week, um, although, like
they, he literally started atlike their busiest week.
Um, so they have like one oftheir biggest events that was
happening this past week.
Excuse me, so like he is tiredfrom that.
He it's where he's working islike an hour drive from where we
(10:54):
live.
I didn't realize it was thatfar.
Yeah, it's, it's far.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What is the location of his?
In St Pete, okay, it takes anhour.
Wow, and you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You have no future plans of moving to st pete not
to st pete, but we're thinkingabout moving to tampa at some
point, which would be like abouta 20 minute drive from where he
is.
So um, yeah, but he's like buthe's like now he's like.
It was like one extreme to theother, because he was not
working for almost two months sohe was home like trying to
(11:32):
figure things out for that longand now he was like it's like
people overload yeah.
So, like he was only seeing me,tebow and Daisy, for two months.
So like he was only seeing me,tebow and Daisy, for two months,
and then it was like here's thebiggest event of our company,
that you're going to have totalk to people and film and all
this stuff.
So he's tired, yeah, but it'sgood.
(11:56):
This week has been busy, busy,yeah, and he was sick his first
week, um, like his orientationweek, and we had just come back
from New York yeah, we don'ttalk about that too yeah, and
then I like was like I couldfeel my body like fighting to
(12:18):
not get sick.
Yeah, so like that whole weekthat we had gotten back I was
like really, really tired andlike trying my hardest to not
get sick.
And then this week I ate ordrank something bad after
Pilates on Monday and was up forlike hours in the middle of the
(12:40):
night.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh, that is the worst .
Yeah, yeah, that is the worst.
Yeah, that is the worst.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I hate that I have puked like that yeah, yeah years
and the next day, like my, theback of, like my tongue and my
throat were like sore.
Yeah, yeah like muscles likeyou're using muscles so wild
like I'm like this is such aweird feeling and I said that to
a couple people and they'relike, yeah, like that happens,
(13:06):
like when you throw up, and Iwas like it's just that you
don't remember when you don'tlike I am not when I normally,
if I get like the flu, like Iget the flu but like it is not
common for me to throw up yeahme either that's not a common
thing for me, either I get itwas like it was yeah, and then
the next day and I had been upfor like hours like just laying
(13:29):
on the bathroom floor, so thenext day I like I didn't do
anything, I just like slept andI also didn't feel like eating
anything because I feel likecrap.
So it was just like a weird, aweird, a weird couple of weeks
like physically, health-wise,and then like mentally, like
jake getting back into work andlike just a lot of things a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, that's a lot.
I want to point out somethingbecause I thought it was so cool
, um, and that is like how greatyou were.
During the whole thing.
You were like, I mean, talkabout like being in awe of
someone.
Your patience and your faithwas so obvious and so strong.
(14:17):
Like you were like nope, we gotthis, we're going to figure it
out.
You didn't.
I never saw you waver figure itout.
I never saw you waver.
Jake immediately thought aboutgoing back to a church that had
offered him a job previouslythat was lower pay than he was
making, which is already badenough.
And you were like nope, we'renot going backwards, we've got
(14:38):
this, we're going to keep movingforward.
Something's going to come up.
And you were just it was such abeautiful thing to witness
Because I'm like, oh man, I Imean, I spent a few days feeling
really guilty about how I don'tfeel like I was that kind of
support in my past life and andI was like, although that person
(15:03):
was like, no, you can checkthat off the list, you were a
supportive wife.
Because I felt like, oh my, Iwas scared.
I was so scared.
When any little thing, I mean,it's a totally different
circumstance, but when anylittle thing happened, I was
terrified and I just thought Imean, I feel like I'm better now
.
Now I'm like I'll jump and I'lldo it and I'll take my chances.
(15:25):
In fact, alexis told merecently that I liked taking
risks and I was like what she'slike, you like risks.
I'm like I do not like risks.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I don't know if I like risks, but you definitely
are open to taking risks.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, more than I used to be.
I used to be so scaredconstantly and live in such fear
and um but you still did itanyways, even like that's always
.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Something that I thought about you is that you're
definitely you're open totaking risks for like what's
right and like like you're ajustice seeker, so like that is
like you'll go out of your way,like whether it's scary or not
and do it anyways.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But well, thanks, baby, but I was really proud of
you.
I just felt like what a greateven I talked to to dex about it
.
I'm like my brother, I'm, I'mlike can you imagine that having
that kind of support and he did, he said he's's like that makes
a world of difference, likewhat a world of difference that
makes for your partner.
(16:29):
And it's just, I mean, you'regiving them the freedom to like,
fail and figure it out withoutfeeling, I mean, he's going to
beat himself up enough, and I'msure he did.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, he was scared himself, like, just himself,
like, yeah, I mean like he.
The getting laid off was likenot something either of us saw
coming.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It was very like, much like abrupt, yeah, um, and
it was also upsetting, becauseit's friends and like part of
life and it's still our churchlike we still attend the church.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So like it's.
It was like emotional ondifferent levels and like my,
like one of my best friends,like she worked there at the
time and she was like, oh my god, like I can't believe that,
like he's not gonna be thereevery day, like, like, and so,
yeah, it was like it wasdefinitely a lot.
And then, money wise, it waslike he immediately was like oh
(17:28):
shit, like what do I do?
Because in our relationship,like he is, he provides more
financially than I do at themoment.
And so I think he was like what?
Like, what are we gonna do?
And I just felt like it wasgonna be okay, like I, I don't
know like, and I also was likeus like being scared and freaked
(17:50):
out, like until something comesalong, like isn't going to help
.
Yeah it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
No, but you, you really you stood strong in that
because because even I mean, Ieven like I don't know if people
know that you also do work forme, like you don't work for me
but you do, like you're acontractor that I hire or that I
pay, and I had to like lowerthe hours because things have
(18:19):
been really rough and reallyhard and I didn't want to.
I was like I'm just not goingto and you're like you have to.
This is about your business.
And and you, you didn't even Idon't know if you hung up the
phone or got off whatever andcried, but you were like you're
like no, it's going to be allright, it's going to be, it's
going to be okay, and it was.
(18:40):
It was like I never would havedone that if it wasn't for you
like switching out of, likewe're not talking about mom and
daughter, we're talking aboutthis is a business and this is a
business decision and this iswhat's best for your business.
And you're really good atcompartmentalizing in that way
and I am like no, I'll just bestarving and I'll still be
(19:03):
paying, because I can't let youdown or anyone else that you
know.
It's just, you're justunbelievable.
You, just you weren't.
You wouldn't even waver at allLike.
You were so steadfast in yourfaith, and that was just a very
beautiful thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Yeah, I was one thing I wassaying to Jake actually last
night.
I was like, okay, I'm liketired, like I need you to fill
me back up please.
I've done a lot of supportingthese past couple of months, so
I would like a foot massage andsome chocolate.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh man, foot massage, some chocolate, thank you.
Oh, and foot massage, oh,that's great.
Okay, that's really great.
So Jake's got a job, jake'shappy, jake's doing well.
You guys are just gettingacclimated.
So you went through some healthissues, but things are on the
mend.
You're feeling better now.
Yeah, You're still kind of.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm feeling better.
I'm just like tired, justbecause, like I also, I'm going
to Peru in a couple of weeks andI'm so excited.
I cannot wait to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I wish I was going.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Also the thing about being a business owner which,
like you understand, but likemaybe some people listening to
this won't, is that like youdon't like time off is like you
have to work double time beforeyou take time off.
So I am like last night I wasup to like midnight like
(20:42):
finishing stuff for clients.
So that way, like, and today,like normally I don't work on
Fridays, like Fridays is likenot a day that I normally work,
but like I've been working todayand like will be working late
tonight so that way I canprepare um myself for Peru, so
that way all my clients aretaken care of and, like all the
work that, like I would be doingduring that time, is just done
(21:05):
ahead of time.
So that in and of itself isjust it's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's a lot.
No, I agree, I don't thinkpeople do realize that that it's
you know, when you work on yourown time, but it's, it's like
you do, but you still have to doit.
Because I have the same way,because I'm going to London,
paris and Ireland in the summerfor several weeks and I don't
(21:32):
want to work.
I don't want to work duringthat time, and that is right
before the busiest time of theseason for me, and that's back
to school, and so I'm like, isthat a mistake?
But I'm working like a dogright now so that I can go and
actually just like, enjoy andmeet a handsome Irishman.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, but you have to be willing to move here.
Well, we could.
You can't move to a differentcountry right before I get
married and then have a baby.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh really no, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We can talk about this another time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
How about, if we like , did some time splitting, Like
we lived in Ireland for thisamount of time and we lived in
America.
I could approve of that.
Okay, not that I could approveof that Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Not that you need my approval, because you can do
whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, but I need to know this.
I actually had thisconversation with Jake when he
asked for my blessing and I waslike, well, I might want to move
to Ireland, and he was like hewas so supportive.
Did you not know this story?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I did not know this story.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All right, never mind , that's a story for another
time.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, I want you to be happy ultimately.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, I know, and I don't want to miss grandchildren
, like I don't want to miss thatthere's a lot of.
It's so confusing for me rightnow because I honestly have been
looking into, like what itwould take to relocate and
Ireland is a little harder thanlike Portugal is like yeah, so
(23:15):
Portugal is kind of on the listand so I've just been thinking
and looking and whatever.
But the thing that stops me is,like I can't, I'm like I can't,
I don't want to be a grandma.
That's like hi, sweetie, on aFaceTime, Like I want.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I still want to travel, so like it's not like we
wouldn't like come see you,like it would be an opportunity
for us to travel, obviously,like when they're like an infant
, like there's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's hard.
It's hard and you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You want five children, so yeah, well, maybe I
mean, like that's what I'vealways thought I wanted, but
like um again, like I've not hadone child, so we'll see what
happens then.
But um, yeah, I've alwayswanted a big family, so, um, but
I also like people do it, likepeople still travel with kids.
(24:05):
But I also like people do it,like people still travel with
kids.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, you're right.
You're right, people do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And I don't want my life to stop, like when I have
kids, like I have always saidand like told Jake, like
whenever we have kids, like Idon't want to keep saying like,
oh, we got to travel now whilewe can.
(24:31):
Like I'll be able to travelunless I'm like deathly ill or
something like there's no, untilwe like can't.
Like when we have kids, likethey will also travel with us,
like I want our lives tocontinue on when we have kids
too, and obviously that's a loteasier said than done yeah,
before you have the kids yeah,because there's, you totally
want something.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You're the best parent ever before you have kids
.
You're the best version of whatyou think before you have them.
And then you're like, oh mygosh, it changes, also being
like, no, our lives are notgoing to center around them,
(25:04):
they're going to center aroundus, because I think that's a
mistake that was made raisingyou.
Honestly, you and Jackson, I'vealways felt that way.
I'm like we should have beenfocused on God and our
relationship.
That should have been numberone and you guys should have
intertwined with us and ourwhole world revolved around you
(25:24):
two.
And that I don't think that's ahealth, that's not a healthy
marriage and it's not.
It's not.
And also, it raises entitledpeople.
Yeah, um, I don't think you'reentitled, but, um, it's, it's,
it's, yeah, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I just I, I think that, yeah, because the world
doesn't revolve around reallyanyone, so like it shouldn't
revolve around anyone from thebeginning.
So yeah, that's just always.
I'm like when people are like,oh, travel now while you're
talking, and I'm like well, youcan just you know, people have
their different opinions and youcan, and that's something that
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you'll have.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
People will constantly give it to you
unsolicited advice, before youknow, and you can take what you
want and leave what you don'twant, and it's just but anyway.
So.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So, yeah, I'm working a bunch before Peru and then, I
also have this like wildopportunity that actually like
very recently came up my one ofmy friends that I met in Bali
last year.
Um, she's a photographer and acontent creator, um, and she's
like basically like travelingall over the world and like
working with different likehotels and activities and stuff
(26:33):
to like get free opportunitiesto then like promote their stuff
.
And she is going to be inMorocco and she was like I need
somebody to come with me to helpme like like be in the videos
or like to yeah, or whatever,and you're so good at that.
And basically like you would getlike free stays in hotels and
stuff.
You would just have to coveryour flights.
(26:54):
And I was like I'll do it, I'llcome, and so that will be like
the end of the first week ofJune and like this into the
second week of June.
So like it'll be like I'll beback from Peru for a week and
then I'll go to Morocco.
Oh wow, yeah, so um it.
(27:14):
But I was like I can't, that'slike a full body.
Yes, for me like that'ssomething I want that, that part
of like where people are like,do it while you can like the
last minute-ness like that is ado it while you can kind of
thing to me, because like therewill need to be more required
planning for things later on.
But I'm like I can do that andlike I would love to do that.
(27:37):
So I like messaged her rightaway and I was like, yes, I want
to do this.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So you don't.
You're not getting paid, you'rejust getting the stay.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I'm just getting to say so, I have to again work.
I'm basically working a wholeentire month ahead and that's oh
hard.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, that's what I'm doing too, because I'm trying to
get um, because I'm taking twoweeks off when I go to peru.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm taking two solid weeks off yeah I'm like the day
before I leave like I am, that'sthe start of the week, like I'm
like not working then, and thenwhen I get back, there's like a
few days that I'm like I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm not trying to work, because I remember when I
got back from Bali I was deadtired, yeah yeah, I was just
gonna say that that is a hugelife lesson, because you want to
make when you return fromplaces, you want to ease back
into your work life and not haveit slammed in front of you.
So am I not only trying to getall of July situated, I'm trying
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to get August situated as well,so that when I come back at the
end of July I'm not scrounging,cramming everything in before
August when I'm like, and alsothe jet lag and just the whole
thing.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, it won't be as bad with Peru as it was with
Bali, because Bali was like a12-hour time difference and the
flight was like a total.
The whole travel time was like35 hours and Peru is not that
long and the time difference, Ithink, is like maybe an hour or
two.
Um, if that even, um, so that'snice.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, that'll be good so that won't be but that won't
be as bad.
I don't know what my situationis.
I don't.
My flight is not as long asyours.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's still like over 12 hours, but it's not um yeah,
the one to morocco is reallylong, that one's long so that
will be 35, that's more thanaustralia.
Well, the whole travel timetotal oh, okay, okay it was like
the first flight was like 11hours and then the second flight
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was like I think it was like 14, I don't know.
It was like two really longflights, but like I had layovers
, and so the total time I wastraveling was 35 hours, but
really like the flight like as awhole was probably like 22
hours.
Yeah, it was long anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that's all coming up and that's exciting.
And then what else is has goneon?
We went on a trip to New York.
We went to New York.
Actually, I have another thing,like a business thing, to share
, since we are like in thebusiness.
I mean not that anyone can seethis, but I published a book.
Yay, I published my first book.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's number three in kids and like Noteworthy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I think it's for not kids' birthday parties, but like
it's a party, it's an idea thatyou could use for.
Anyway, it's called HilariousWould you Rather this or that?
Fun Writing for Kids.
So it's basically a workbookfor kids, but it has some really
fun this or that, or would yourather?
And then kids respond and itencourages them to write, it
(30:47):
encourages them to draw, itencourages them to be creative,
and so it's got 50 differentprompts and like.
One of the examples is this oneis not as like a silly one, but
this is like a would you rathergo to an amusement park or to a
water park?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Water park because we live in Florida and it's way
too hot.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yes, that's exactly what I would say.
Here's more of a silly one.
Would you rather hear a ringingin your ears all day or smell
the smell of poop all day?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That's so hard because I feel like the ring in
my ears would give me a migraineand that wouldn't be worth it
to me, so I might choose thepoop.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, so it's things like that.
And so then they have to kindof tell why and they give their
whatever, and then at the end ofthe book there's five would you
rather create?
And so then they get to chooselike would they rather create,
would they rather build a cattower, or would they rather
create and build a birdcage?
So then they pick one or theother and then they use simple
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materials, they work throughlike a design thinking where
they think about their creation,they brainstorm, they have a
little.
You know what I mean.
So it's really a very fun bookand I'm excited that it has sold
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, it's number three in new releases in
children's party games books.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So it would be fun to do like as a party favor.
I mean it is a little bit moreexpensive because it's color,
it's full color, but that also.
Yeah, thank you, it's worth itand also it's something that you
can keep and just keep.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You know, having fun with the prompts because, like
for road trips, absolutely forroad trips like that's like a
whole activity book that theycan take, and it's just the book
and then you just need pencilsand whatever else, maybe some
crayons, and you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, so I'm excited about that.
That was a business thing thathappened and yeah, and I'm still
doing.
I started doing my teacherpodcast but I'm changing it.
It's just been my content fromReaders in the Making, so it's
my One Tired Teacher podcast,but it's been Readers in the
(33:02):
Making, so it's my.
Youtube video has been also mypodcast, so that's been fun.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, all right, so that's caught up.
Let's talk about New York, anddo you have anything else to
catch up on?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't think so All right, that's really all that's
happened.
I mean that's my recent.
It's been like now a couple ofmonths, so I'm like I don't know
what else has been happening.
Yeah, but yeah, we went to NewYork.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Went to New York.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We saw Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yay, we saw Hugh Jackman.
Oh, that was the whole reasonwe went to New York but we had,
I mean, the whole trip.
I thought was great.
But Hugh Jackman, I really, Imean, I have like loved him
since it's been at least 20years because he was in a movie
with Ashley Judd called SomeoneLike you, I think it was called,
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and oh, he was so cute and itwas like then on, and then you
know all the Wolverine moviesand the Greatest Showman and all
these different things.
So he did like a performance.
It was just about Hugh Jackman.
It was all the songs that he'sdone in previous things.
So we did like a performance.
It was just about Hugh Jackman.
It was all the songs that he'sdone in previous things.
I went to see the music manwith Nanny and we were on the
front row and I gasped when Irealized he was on stage.
(34:14):
I was like, and everyone intheater was like looking at me
and he looked right at me,winked and smiled and continued
on and I was like, oh my, mygosh, I actually bawled after we
walked out of that play.
I just cried um, in this play Ididn't cry, but I did get.
So I look like a child.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I didn't realize I look like that you were taking
video of me and fun to watch youfor sure I was like clapping, I
know the man and I were likelooking at each other like like
it was just like sweet to likewatch like it was like pure joy
is what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I did.
It felt like pure joy.
I don't think I have been thathappy.
I don't even remember.
It was just such a good feelingand I don't know why.
It wasn't like anything washappening to me, but it was just
like I don't know.
I mean, I follow on Instagram.
I understand.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, like that's kind of how I felt, like with
Taylor Swift.
Yeah, when I saw Taylor Swift,it was like just like that pure,
like oh, like you've connectedwith somebody for so long, yeah,
and like you've watched theircareer grow into what it is, and
then you get to like witness,like them in their glory, and
you're like there's a part ofyou that's like I'm so proud of
(35:30):
you, like yeah, yeah, whereyou've come, and also like I'm
so glad and honored like that Iget to witness it like in person
.
So it's definitely and it'slike it's an energy thing too,
like he, his energy was likejust like he was excited and
ready to be there and like thatwas really cool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was very infectious.
And then when he sang when hewas like he's playing a Neil
Diamond impersonator in a moviecoming up with Kate Hudson and I
was like I loved Neil Diamondas a kid, I used to play his
records when I was like I lovedNeil Diamond as a kid.
I used to play his records whenI was little and like seventh,
sixth and seventh grade and justpretend like, just sing and
(36:10):
pretend like I was on stage withNeil Diamond.
So as soon as he startedsinging Song Song Blue and had
that American vest on, I justwas like, oh, I started crying.
I was like, oh, my God, it waslike too I don't know how to
describe it.
It was just so exciting.
And then, after it was over,you left early to go stake out
some like territory for likewhen he comes out afterwards,
(36:33):
because he is known to do that.
And oh my gosh, that was crazy.
So I get out there.
First of all, we couldn't findyou.
We were like walking around thewhole entire Radio City Music
Hall and it was like a mob ofpeople, and I don't do well in a
mob of people.
I was getting so, and thennanny and I'm like come on, and
it was just so.
Then I get to you and you yankme in and then you're like I'm
(36:55):
gonna push you and I was likeyou're gonna push me.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I knew you were gonna not like that.
In the moment In my head I haddecided I was just going to be
okay with you temporarily beingannoyed or upset with me, as for
the later payoff of you gettingto be like close to him or get
a picture or whatever it wasgoing to be.
So I was like I'm just going toprepare myself a little bit for
her to be like anxiouslyfrustrated with me about the
(37:20):
pushing and the close to peopleand the mobs and then later
she's going to be grateful forthis, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And I should have.
Like we waited for so long thatmy feet started hurting, my
back started hurting, I wassweating.
I got scared.
So because I was right there, Icould have reached out and
touched his arm and I got scared.
I'm like I don't want to be aweird stalker lady that touches
him without permission and but Iwish that I had been like can
(37:47):
we take a picture?
Because I know he would have.
I watched him do it in the youknow, during the show, and I
just know that he would have andI just got super scared.
And then this lady had her handright in front of my face with
her sign and I pushed her handaway.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And then I hear you go yeah, basically hitting you,
and I was like I'm literallygonna push you to the ground if
you don't move your hand youwere so funny, you were like so
aggressive and I was like oh mygod, I've just been in those
situations a lot now at thispoint.
Yeah, I know, yeah, I did like Iused to go to playlist live,
(38:26):
which was like a convention.
I remember like youtubers andstuff and um, when I first ever
went, I had that feeling of likebeing so scared, like, because
it's like you're like looking atlike somebody that you have
seen on a screen for so long andthey're that close to you.
You're like starstruck and youfeel like you can't speak.
(38:46):
But I remember when I had gonefor the first time, I went with
my friend at the time and shewas like you just kind of have
to like go, like you like haveto make yourself go, and once
like I got past that barrierwith like the first person, then
I was like okay, because likethen it was like they were
expecting that, like they had.
(39:08):
That's why they were there wasto people.
So, like, when you're insituations like that, you have
to like make yourself like pushpast it just to get there
because, like, the payoff iswhat they are expecting is what
they're expecting.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah, and so I wish that I'd been.
I wish I'd been a little bitmore aggressive and asked for
that and spoken up.
Because I did, I got reallyscared.
I didn't even get to catch hiseye and I was like oh and um,
and he went by like our areakind of fast.
He was so slow in that oneacross the way and I was like
stop like the one girl that wastalking to him.
I'm like wait, everyone needsto get a chance.
(39:44):
And um, and I'm like that'ssilly.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I and if you hadn't been there I would have
left, like I kept turning aroundand you're like no, because I
was like we're not gonna leavebecause you had told me about
when you had waited when youwere there for the music we
didn't wait, we left.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
We should have waited he came out.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah and I was like this is not gonna be one of
those situations like I got upand like pulled ass to this
barricade so that we would havea spot, like we're not leaving,
like he's coming out.
So, especially because I knew Iknew I know what to look for
too, with like if they'reactually gonna come or not, and
like his security was there andthere was police officers and I
(40:25):
was like if he wasn't coming tocome or not, and like his
security was there and there waspolice officers and I was like
if he wasn't coming, they wouldbe, they wouldn't be there, they
wouldn't be standing there likewaiting for that.
So I was like he's definitelycoming, it's just a matter of
when.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So I was like we're not leaving, like your feet will
bleed until we wait, they feltlike they were going to and I
felt like I was peeing, like Iwas just dripping sweat.
I'm like this is terrible, butit was really cool and I was on
a high.
After that, I was wide awakeand it was like what time?
(40:58):
Like midnight.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It was late.
It was like I think it was like1030.
But then by the time we left itwas probably like 1130, 1145.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It was late, yeah, and I stayed awake till I think
like two o'clock in the morning.
I could not go to sleep.
Part of it was I drank.
I had some of your Coke and soI was like on caffeine that I
never I don't even drinkcaffeine anymore and I'm like I
was just I could not go to sleep.
And then I stayed on that highand I was so tired on Sunday
when we went for brunch.
(41:27):
I was so tired, but I'm like,and even like I went to a drama
bookstore by myself and you guysdid your thing, and then I came
back to the hotel and Iactually texted both you and
Nana you see what you were doingand neither one of you
responded.
And so I'm like, yeah, I'm likeI'm not going to just sit here
in New York, I'm going to gowalk around.
(41:47):
And I mean, I've been like thisis probably like the 18th or
19th time.
I can't believe how many timesI've been to New York.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I actually feel too At this point.
I'm like man, I've been a lot.
Yeah, it's like when people gothey like, ask me where to go,
and I'm like.
I have some suggestions for you.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, it's a crazy.
Yeah, I know I did that too.
I just it's like I won'trecommend the restaurant we went
to on the last night, butanyway if you like mac and
cheese, I would recommend it.
Or a good ice cream sandwichBest mac and cheese, it was so
good.
Or a yummy ice cream sandwich.
That's the place to go.
But anyway, so I went walkingand I went to different
(42:28):
bookstores and that was reallyfun too.
Like I just had.
I really enjoyed it.
But I was in such a good moodI'm like nothing is going to
bring me down, and that lastedfor like a week.
Like I felt that way.
I'm like everything that'sgoing on in the world,
everything's fine.
I felt that way.
I'm like everything that'sgoing on in the world, it's
everything's fine.
(42:48):
I got to see Hugh Jackman, so Imean, I did come down, down,
down.
I was like, oh man, but it wasgood.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, we have the best food when we were there.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, we had really good food.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
The French toast, I still.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I miss that.
I don't even know the name ofthat restaurant.
I need to write that down.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I have a picture of it's like a rooftop.
It's like I think that's whatit's called Haven Haven.
It's like in a little boutiquehotel, but like the french toast
litter, it looked like a, likea square brick that they put on
your plate and and the outsidewas like crunchy with like gosh,
it was so good.
Cinnamon sugar and then, likeyou, cut into it and it was so
fluffy and soft inside, oh, soit had a blueberry, like yeah,
(43:35):
it had like this like creamcheese, blueberry like so good.
And it was delicious.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I was delicious.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I would go back strictly for that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, me too, for sure.
And also, we ended up going toa play on Broadway.
That was that Danny picked,that was so good, and Juliet,
which I thought was adorable.
I would totally see it again.
I want to see it again.
I love the music.
I've been listening to thesoundtrack since we got home.
I just I think it is such a funshow.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
So, um, yeah, it was good, so it was fun yeah, yeah,
I got back and I was like I amvery tired I was still in my hue
jackman high for a bit and thenI, then I got tired.
It's just been this past weekthat I'm like, yeah, I had no
idea what to expect with hueJackman, because I kind of just
like tagged along at the lastminute like the plans were that
(44:28):
you and Nanny were gonna go andI was like I want to come um,
and I didn't know that it wasjust like a Hugh.
Jackman show like I thought wewere seeing, like the greatest
showman, like that's what Ithought so when he said, if you
came here for this, you're gonnabe sorely disappointed, no, no,
I realized it once we like gotthere and I also like wasn't 100
(44:52):
sure, because I was like Iwasn't seeing anything and it
was.
It was probably the day beforebecause it said like live from
New York with love or whatever,hugh Jackman, and that's when I
was like okay, it's not what Ithought it was but, I, was.
It's not like.
I was like, oh, I'm bummed,like it was still a really great
show, but it just wasn't.
(45:13):
I had no idea like what toexpect to me.
I was like I'm just so long forthe ride so yeah, and we had
good seats.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I mean, we were were like in row 22.
If you hadn't come, then wemight have been closer.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, it was just.
It was so the fact that he wentinto the audience, though I was
like, oh man, when I was at theMusic, man, I would have been
right there.
Yeah, so it was.
(45:42):
Yeah, it was great Anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
So I think we, I think we thoroughly caught up
yeah, I think so too all right.
Well, I mean, this was kind ofa long episode too all right.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, I like longer episodes, so yeah, it's fine, I
do too.
All right well, until next timewe will see you in two weeks or
two weeks you can go back andlisten to us whenever you want,
but yeah, a new episode willno-transcript.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Together, we're like yourreal-life Lorelai and Rory
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We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff,
the everyday stuff andeverything in between.
So grab your emotional supportwater bottle I know we have ours
.
Find your comfiest chair orkeep your eyes on the road and
let's get into it.
Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Absolutely.
Join us as we mind our heartsand hopefully make minding yours
a little easier.
Hi, hi.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Welcome back.
Welcome back to Mind your Heart.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So let's do something a little bit different today.
I mean, we have, in the past,done like a check-in, yeah, the
past done like a um check-in,yeah, and but I think that I
think that should be we.
I feel like we had so muchhappen in the last couple of
weeks actually, it's probablybeen like a month now, right,
since we've actually recordedyeah, because we like, when we
(01:19):
last recorded was longer thanwhat we normally did.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because we started doing every other week, so I
think it's been.
It's been more than a month,yeah it's been a while I feel
like it's been a couple ofmonths.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it does feel like it's been long.
So I feel like it's been sincebefore um jake got laid off oh,
we even just discussed that, sowe got a lot to to catch up on
and, um, I mean, as far as ourlisteners, they just heard our
episode where we were talkingabout slang, slang, slang, slang
(01:58):
okay, slang, I thought you saidslaying like s-l-A-Y-I-N-G and
I was like mm slay.
Yeah, we could have put thatword in there.
Actually, if you had put yourown millennial words because
you're right on the cusp, thenit would have gone better.
I'm a zillennial.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Zillennial.
Whatever, that's not a realthing.
Zillennial.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think you have something in your tooth, oh, I
do.
Good thing this isn't onYouTube anymore.
I don't even know which toothit is.
No, it's on that side.
It's lettuce.
You can keep going while I tryto figure this out.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, so I guess that's the first thing I'll
start with.
Jake got laid off.
That was a long process, um, hecurrently now has a job, so, um
, good, I'm glad you told thatyou didn't leave him in suspense
yeah, which is really reallygood.
Um it's he got like it'sbasically a pretty big promotion
(03:02):
and it's with like a new, it'sa new avenue.
He used to be working with thechurch that's pretty much all
he's ever worked for Differentchurches and this step kind of
led him to get out of that,which I am very excited about,
(03:24):
and he's also very happy aboutum.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it was definitely more of like um, there was
resistance on his end with thatbecause he feels called for sure
, he's got like a greaterpurpose and he feels he's got
service in his blood, so he hecan't help that part.
However, however, understandingexactly how he feels not being
(03:48):
called to a church but feelingcalled to a profession that felt
like in service of othersteaching I can understand.
It's a really hard thing to letgo of and to think about.
How am I going to provide formy family or take care of myself
or take care of my kids or takecare of my wife and all those
things?
And I think it's a beautifulthing that we have people that
(04:11):
are willing to do jobs.
I just wish that we would paythem more.
I just wish that it would be.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I also don't think it's just the pay.
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think it's the mentality too.
It's very much the mentality,and it's very much like we
expect more, more, more, and weare going to give you less, less
, less.
It really is a very brokenmentality and it's constantly.
Well, it's in the service ofwhatever, and in this case, it's
in the service of God, and mycase is in the service of the
(04:41):
children.
It's about the kids, alwaysabout the kids.
I just went to a trainingyesterday because I like to stay
current to what's going on,especially because I create
resources for kids and forteachers, and they were talking
about AI in the classroom, which, you know, I had one-to-one
iPads.
I would have been all over this.
This would have been like, sofun for me, and I'm listening to
(05:05):
these trainings and they'relike, and one of the first
things they said was well, youknow, we're doing it for the
kids, and I was like it was likenails on a chalkboard, because
every time people have to saythat to you, that's why you're
in.
It is for the kids.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You don't need to be reminded of that every single
time, and when people say that,you know they're getting ready
to manipulate you or use you insome way it's kind of like when
people are like acting racistand they're like, well, I have a
black friend like gosh, youknow.
It's like that similar likewhere they're like trying to
excuse whatever the bad behavioris with like the thing that is
(05:43):
supposed to be the good part ofit, almost, you know, well, it
does feel manipulative.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It does feel like it's a manipulation tactic and I
just I don't know, I feel veryturned off by that.
I mean, that might be my ownpersonal experiences, but I just
feel like I don't know it, justugh.
So I am actually really happywe don't have to keep harping on
that point, because I reallycould go on and on.
But I'm really happy that Jakehas found something that not
(06:14):
only recognizes his exceptionaltalent but compensates him
fairly.
And also, it's not even justabout the pay, it's about like,
it's time to go, it's time toleave.
I'm going to honor yourboundaries.
You're not.
You don't have to take thishome with you.
You don't have to.
I don't expect you to befinished with this by tomorrow
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morning at eight o'clock, eventhough it's five in the evening.
You know, it's just, it's sorefreshing.
And also, they gave him like,didn't they give him like a gift
when he came as well?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They gave him like a massive gift bag.
They've provided him with alaptop so like he doesn't have
to use his personal one.
They gave him the tools for thejob.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I know crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is what I mean, this is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean as people that work in nonprofit or in public
whatever, or churches they don'tget the tools for the job.
I remember showing up at amedia specialist as a new media
specialist in a Title I schoolthat had funds because they were
Title I, they had more money onfunds.
I had zero crayons, zeropencils, no paper, yes, no
(07:29):
staplers, no staples, nopaperclips, nothing.
And I'm like what?
And I had to have to teachclasses all day.
This is when I was on therotation and I'm like I don't,
what am am I?
What am I going to do?
They have to have crayon.
I had to do a go fund me sothat I could get essential
(07:50):
supplies.
And then they were like you'renot allowed to do a go fund me
and I'm like, well, you can comearrest me because what do you
mean?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
you're not okay?
Well, then, provide me with thetools I need.
Yeah, they they said I wasn'tallowed, but I did it anyway,
and it got sent to the school.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I didn't try to, they said I wasn't allowed, but I
did it anyway and it got sent tothe school.
I didn't try to hide it and Igot like tons of and you know
who donated Nanny and Steve andMiss Sergi, Like those people
that basically donated and I'mlike this is my friends and
family, and so you know.
Oh well, I got the materialsand I had what I needed.
(08:23):
There was no other way.
It's unbelievable to think thatyou would go to a job and they
would not give you the tools youneed, and that's one thing that
I appreciate about working fora company or work I mean, even
in the I don't know what do youcall it like in the trade
(08:43):
industry.
They don't expect you to cometo the job and like provide all
of your own materials.
I do think you have to build,like a tool set or whatever, a
toolkit, but they give youthings in the meantime.
Maybe you want your own tools.
I don't know exactly how thatworks, but why?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They still give you stuff, because I remember
Jackson got still give you stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And because I remember Jackson got a lot of
stuff when he went and worked ona job site.
He I was in shock when he camehome with like multiple shirts.
You know his hard hat.
You know a koozie, a littlestress hard hat that I love.
I don't know where that thingis because I used to walk around
with that thing constantly andyou know some basic.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He got all that stuff too.
He got a hard hat, he gotshirts, he got his vest.
He got like all of his like PTEstuff, like yeah, all of it's
like provided.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, even PTE.
That's another example.
Like during COVID, theyprovided us with I don't even
think they did, or maybe theydid, or maybe they did one mask
and that was it, and youbasically were expected to wear
that mask over and over again.
And because I did that, I gotan infection on my nose and
(09:58):
ended up having some kind of acyst on my nose that now my nose
, at the tip of my nose, ispermanently deformed thanks to
that and, um, it was crazy.
I'm like you're not gonna buyus masks.
We have to wear them.
You're not gonna buy them.
It was so insane.
And hand sanitizer and oh goshyeah so Jake got a new job.
(10:22):
Yeah, all right back to thepoint.
Jake got a new job and they aretaking care of him, yeah, most
importantly, and he's happy yes,this is his second.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's his second week this week, um, although, like
they, he literally started atlike their busiest week.
Um, so they have like one oftheir biggest events that was
happening this past week.
Excuse me, so like he is tiredfrom that.
He it's where he's working islike an hour drive from where we
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live.
I didn't realize it was thatfar.
Yeah, it's, it's far.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What is the location of his?
In St Pete, okay, it takes anhour.
Wow, and you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You have no future plans of moving to st pete not
to st pete, but we're thinkingabout moving to tampa at some
point, which would be like abouta 20 minute drive from where he
is.
So um, yeah, but he's like buthe's like now he's like.
It was like one extreme to theother, because he was not
working for almost two months sohe was home like trying to
(11:32):
figure things out for that longand now he was like it's like
people overload yeah.
So, like he was only seeing me,tebow and Daisy, for two months.
So like he was only seeing me,tebow and Daisy, for two months,
and then it was like here's thebiggest event of our company,
that you're going to have totalk to people and film and all
this stuff.
So he's tired, yeah, but it'sgood.
(11:56):
This week has been busy, busy,yeah, and he was sick his first
week, um, like his orientationweek, and we had just come back
from New York yeah, we don'ttalk about that too yeah, and
then I like was like I couldfeel my body like fighting to
(12:18):
not get sick.
Yeah, so like that whole weekthat we had gotten back I was
like really, really tired andlike trying my hardest to not
get sick.
And then this week I ate ordrank something bad after
Pilates on Monday and was up forlike hours in the middle of the
(12:40):
night.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh, that is the worst .
Yeah, yeah, that is the worst.
Yeah, that is the worst.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I hate that I have puked like that yeah, yeah years
and the next day, like my, theback of, like my tongue and my
throat were like sore.
Yeah, yeah like muscles likeyou're using muscles so wild
like I'm like this is such aweird feeling and I said that to
a couple people and they'relike, yeah, like that happens,
(13:06):
like when you throw up, and Iwas like it's just that you
don't remember when you don'tlike I am not when I normally,
if I get like the flu, like Iget the flu but like it is not
common for me to throw up yeahme either that's not a common
thing for me, either I get itwas like it was yeah, and then
the next day and I had been upfor like hours like just laying
(13:29):
on the bathroom floor, so thenext day I like I didn't do
anything, I just like slept andI also didn't feel like eating
anything because I feel likecrap.
So it was just like a weird, aweird, a weird couple of weeks
like physically, health-wise,and then like mentally, like
jake getting back into work andlike just a lot of things a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, that's a lot.
I want to point out somethingbecause I thought it was so cool
, um, and that is like how greatyou were.
During the whole thing.
You were like, I mean, talkabout like being in awe of
someone.
Your patience and your faithwas so obvious and so strong.
(14:17):
Like you were like nope, we gotthis, we're going to figure it
out.
You didn't.
I never saw you waver figure itout.
I never saw you waver.
Jake immediately thought aboutgoing back to a church that had
offered him a job previouslythat was lower pay than he was
making, which is already badenough.
And you were like nope, we'renot going backwards, we've got
(14:38):
this, we're going to keep movingforward.
Something's going to come up.
And you were just it was such abeautiful thing to witness
Because I'm like, oh man, I Imean, I spent a few days feeling
really guilty about how I don'tfeel like I was that kind of
support in my past life and andI was like, although that person
(15:03):
was like, no, you can checkthat off the list, you were a
supportive wife.
Because I felt like, oh my, Iwas scared.
I was so scared.
When any little thing, I mean,it's a totally different
circumstance, but when anylittle thing happened, I was
terrified and I just thought Imean, I feel like I'm better now
.
Now I'm like I'll jump and I'lldo it and I'll take my chances.
(15:25):
In fact, alexis told merecently that I liked taking
risks and I was like what she'slike, you like risks.
I'm like I do not like risks.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I don't know if I like risks, but you definitely
are open to taking risks.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, more than I used to be.
I used to be so scaredconstantly and live in such fear
and um but you still did itanyways, even like that's always
.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Something that I thought about you is that you're
definitely you're open totaking risks for like what's
right and like like you're ajustice seeker, so like that is
like you'll go out of your way,like whether it's scary or not
and do it anyways.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But well, thanks, baby, but I was really proud of
you.
I just felt like what a greateven I talked to to dex about it
.
I'm like my brother, I'm, I'mlike can you imagine that having
that kind of support and he did, he said he's's like that makes
a world of difference, likewhat a world of difference that
makes for your partner.
(16:29):
And it's just, I mean, you'regiving them the freedom to like,
fail and figure it out withoutfeeling, I mean, he's going to
beat himself up enough, and I'msure he did.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, he was scared himself, like, just himself,
like, yeah, I mean like he.
The getting laid off was likenot something either of us saw
coming.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It was very like, much like abrupt, yeah, um, and
it was also upsetting, becauseit's friends and like part of
life and it's still our churchlike we still attend the church.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So like it's.
It was like emotional ondifferent levels and like my,
like one of my best friends,like she worked there at the
time and she was like, oh my god, like I can't believe that,
like he's not gonna be thereevery day, like, like, and so,
yeah, it was like it wasdefinitely a lot.
And then, money wise, it waslike he immediately was like oh
(17:28):
shit, like what do I do?
Because in our relationship,like he is, he provides more
financially than I do at themoment.
And so I think he was like what?
Like, what are we gonna do?
And I just felt like it wasgonna be okay, like I, I don't
know like, and I also was likeus like being scared and freaked
(17:50):
out, like until something comesalong, like isn't going to help
.
Yeah it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
No, but you, you really you stood strong in that
because because even I mean, Ieven like I don't know if people
know that you also do work forme, like you don't work for me
but you do, like you're acontractor that I hire or that I
pay, and I had to like lowerthe hours because things have
(18:19):
been really rough and reallyhard and I didn't want to.
I was like I'm just not goingto and you're like you have to.
This is about your business.
And and you, you didn't even Idon't know if you hung up the
phone or got off whatever andcried, but you were like you're
like no, it's going to be allright, it's going to be, it's
going to be okay, and it was.
(18:40):
It was like I never would havedone that if it wasn't for you
like switching out of, likewe're not talking about mom and
daughter, we're talking aboutthis is a business and this is a
business decision and this iswhat's best for your business.
And you're really good atcompartmentalizing in that way
and I am like no, I'll just bestarving and I'll still be
(19:03):
paying, because I can't let youdown or anyone else that you
know.
It's just, you're justunbelievable.
You, just you weren't.
You wouldn't even waver at allLike.
You were so steadfast in yourfaith, and that was just a very
beautiful thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Yeah, I was one thing I wassaying to Jake actually last
night.
I was like, okay, I'm liketired, like I need you to fill
me back up please.
I've done a lot of supportingthese past couple of months, so
I would like a foot massage andsome chocolate.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh man, foot massage, some chocolate, thank you.
Oh, and foot massage, oh,that's great.
Okay, that's really great.
So Jake's got a job, jake'shappy, jake's doing well.
You guys are just gettingacclimated.
So you went through some healthissues, but things are on the
mend.
You're feeling better now.
Yeah, You're still kind of.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm feeling better.
I'm just like tired, justbecause, like I also, I'm going
to Peru in a couple of weeks andI'm so excited.
I cannot wait to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I wish I was going.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Also the thing about being a business owner which,
like you understand, but likemaybe some people listening to
this won't, is that like youdon't like time off is like you
have to work double time beforeyou take time off.
So I am like last night I wasup to like midnight like
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finishing stuff for clients.
So that way, like, and today,like normally I don't work on
Fridays, like Fridays is likenot a day that I normally work,
but like I've been working todayand like will be working late
tonight so that way I canprepare um myself for Peru, so
that way all my clients aretaken care of and, like all the
work that, like I would be doingduring that time, is just done
(21:05):
ahead of time.
So that in and of itself isjust it's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's a lot.
No, I agree, I don't thinkpeople do realize that that it's
you know, when you work on yourown time, but it's, it's like
you do, but you still have to doit.
Because I have the same way,because I'm going to London,
paris and Ireland in the summerfor several weeks and I don't
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want to work.
I don't want to work duringthat time, and that is right
before the busiest time of theseason for me, and that's back
to school, and so I'm like, isthat a mistake?
But I'm working like a dogright now so that I can go and
actually just like, enjoy andmeet a handsome Irishman.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, but you have to be willing to move here.
Well, we could.
You can't move to a differentcountry right before I get
married and then have a baby.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh really no, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We can talk about this another time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
How about, if we like , did some time splitting, Like
we lived in Ireland for thisamount of time and we lived in
America.
I could approve of that.
Okay, not that I could approveof that Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Not that you need my approval, because you can do
whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, but I need to know this.
I actually had thisconversation with Jake when he
asked for my blessing and I waslike, well, I might want to move
to Ireland, and he was like hewas so supportive.
Did you not know this story?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I did not know this story.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All right, never mind , that's a story for another
time.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, I want you to be happy ultimately.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, I know, and I don't want to miss grandchildren
, like I don't want to miss thatthere's a lot of.
It's so confusing for me rightnow because I honestly have been
looking into, like what itwould take to relocate and
Ireland is a little harder thanlike Portugal is like yeah, so
(23:15):
Portugal is kind of on the listand so I've just been thinking
and looking and whatever.
But the thing that stops me is,like I can't, I'm like I can't,
I don't want to be a grandma.
That's like hi, sweetie, on aFaceTime, Like I want.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I still want to travel, so like it's not like we
wouldn't like come see you,like it would be an opportunity
for us to travel, obviously,like when they're like an infant
, like there's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's hard.
It's hard and you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You want five children, so yeah, well, maybe I
mean, like that's what I'vealways thought I wanted, but
like um again, like I've not hadone child, so we'll see what
happens then.
But um, yeah, I've alwayswanted a big family, so, um, but
I also like people do it, likepeople still travel with kids.
(24:05):
But I also like people do it,like people still travel with
kids.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, you're right.
You're right, people do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And I don't want my life to stop, like when I have
kids, like I have always saidand like told Jake, like
whenever we have kids, like Idon't want to keep saying like,
oh, we got to travel now whilewe can.
(24:31):
Like I'll be able to travelunless I'm like deathly ill or
something like there's no, untilwe like can't.
Like when we have kids, likethey will also travel with us,
like I want our lives tocontinue on when we have kids
too, and obviously that's a loteasier said than done yeah,
before you have the kids yeah,because there's, you totally
want something.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You're the best parent ever before you have kids
.
You're the best version of whatyou think before you have them.
And then you're like, oh mygosh, it changes, also being
like, no, our lives are notgoing to center around them,
(25:04):
they're going to center aroundus, because I think that's a
mistake that was made raisingyou.
Honestly, you and Jackson, I'vealways felt that way.
I'm like we should have beenfocused on God and our
relationship.
That should have been numberone and you guys should have
intertwined with us and ourwhole world revolved around you
(25:24):
two.
And that I don't think that's ahealth, that's not a healthy
marriage and it's not.
It's not.
And also, it raises entitledpeople.
Yeah, um, I don't think you'reentitled, but, um, it's, it's,
it's, yeah, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I just I, I think that, yeah, because the world
doesn't revolve around reallyanyone, so like it shouldn't
revolve around anyone from thebeginning.
So yeah, that's just always.
I'm like when people are like,oh, travel now while you're
talking, and I'm like well, youcan just you know, people have
their different opinions and youcan, and that's something that
(26:00):
you'll have.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
People will constantly give it to you
unsolicited advice, before youknow, and you can take what you
want and leave what you don'twant, and it's just but anyway.
So.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So, yeah, I'm working a bunch before Peru and then, I
also have this like wildopportunity that actually like
very recently came up my one ofmy friends that I met in Bali
last year.
Um, she's a photographer and acontent creator, um, and she's
like basically like travelingall over the world and like
working with different likehotels and activities and stuff
(26:33):
to like get free opportunitiesto then like promote their stuff
.
And she is going to be inMorocco and she was like I need
somebody to come with me to helpme like like be in the videos
or like to yeah, or whatever,and you're so good at that.
And basically like you would getlike free stays in hotels and
stuff.
You would just have to coveryour flights.
(26:54):
And I was like I'll do it, I'llcome, and so that will be like
the end of the first week ofJune and like this into the
second week of June.
So like it'll be like I'll beback from Peru for a week and
then I'll go to Morocco.
Oh wow, yeah, so um it.
(27:14):
But I was like I can't, that'slike a full body.
Yes, for me like that'ssomething I want that, that part
of like where people are like,do it while you can like the
last minute-ness like that is ado it while you can kind of
thing to me, because like therewill need to be more required
planning for things later on.
But I'm like I can do that andlike I would love to do that.
(27:37):
So I like messaged her rightaway and I was like, yes, I want
to do this.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So you don't.
You're not getting paid, you'rejust getting the stay.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I'm just getting to say so, I have to again work.
I'm basically working a wholeentire month ahead and that's oh
hard.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, that's what I'm doing too, because I'm trying to
get um, because I'm taking twoweeks off when I go to peru.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm taking two solid weeks off yeah I'm like the day
before I leave like I am, that'sthe start of the week, like I'm
like not working then, and thenwhen I get back, there's like a
few days that I'm like I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm not trying to work, because I remember when I
got back from Bali I was deadtired, yeah yeah, I was just
gonna say that that is a hugelife lesson, because you want to
make when you return fromplaces, you want to ease back
into your work life and not haveit slammed in front of you.
So am I not only trying to getall of July situated, I'm trying
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to get August situated as well,so that when I come back at the
end of July I'm not scrounging,cramming everything in before
August when I'm like, and alsothe jet lag and just the whole
thing.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, it won't be as bad with Peru as it was with
Bali, because Bali was like a12-hour time difference and the
flight was like a total.
The whole travel time was like35 hours and Peru is not that
long and the time difference, Ithink, is like maybe an hour or
two.
Um, if that even, um, so that'snice.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, that'll be good so that won't be but that won't
be as bad.
I don't know what my situationis.
I don't.
My flight is not as long asyours.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's still like over 12 hours, but it's not um yeah,
the one to morocco is reallylong, that one's long so that
will be 35, that's more thanaustralia.
Well, the whole travel timetotal oh, okay, okay it was like
the first flight was like 11hours and then the second flight
(29:39):
was like I think it was like 14, I don't know.
It was like two really longflights, but like I had layovers
, and so the total time I wastraveling was 35 hours, but
really like the flight like as awhole was probably like 22
hours.
Yeah, it was long anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that's all coming up and that's exciting.
And then what else is has goneon?
We went on a trip to New York.
We went to New York.
Actually, I have another thing,like a business thing, to share
, since we are like in thebusiness.
I mean not that anyone can seethis, but I published a book.
Yay, I published my first book.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's number three in kids and like Noteworthy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I think it's for not kids' birthday parties, but like
it's a party, it's an idea thatyou could use for.
Anyway, it's called HilariousWould you Rather this or that?
Fun Writing for Kids.
So it's basically a workbookfor kids, but it has some really
fun this or that, or would yourather?
And then kids respond and itencourages them to write, it
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encourages them to draw, itencourages them to be creative,
and so it's got 50 differentprompts and like.
One of the examples is this oneis not as like a silly one, but
this is like a would you rathergo to an amusement park or to a
water park?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Water park because we live in Florida and it's way
too hot.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yes, that's exactly what I would say.
Here's more of a silly one.
Would you rather hear a ringingin your ears all day or smell
the smell of poop all day?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That's so hard because I feel like the ring in
my ears would give me a migraineand that wouldn't be worth it
to me, so I might choose thepoop.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, so it's things like that.
And so then they have to kindof tell why and they give their
whatever, and then at the end ofthe book there's five would you
rather create?
And so then they get to chooselike would they rather create,
would they rather build a cattower, or would they rather
create and build a birdcage?
So then they pick one or theother and then they use simple
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materials, they work throughlike a design thinking where
they think about their creation,they brainstorm, they have a
little.
You know what I mean.
So it's really a very fun bookand I'm excited that it has sold
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, it's number three in new releases in
children's party games books.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So it would be fun to do like as a party favor.
I mean it is a little bit moreexpensive because it's color,
it's full color, but that also.
Yeah, thank you, it's worth itand also it's something that you
can keep and just keep.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You know, having fun with the prompts because, like
for road trips, absolutely forroad trips like that's like a
whole activity book that theycan take, and it's just the book
and then you just need pencilsand whatever else, maybe some
crayons, and you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, so I'm excited about that.
That was a business thing thathappened and yeah, and I'm still
doing.
I started doing my teacherpodcast but I'm changing it.
It's just been my content fromReaders in the Making, so it's
my One Tired Teacher podcast,but it's been Readers in the
(33:02):
Making, so it's my.
Youtube video has been also mypodcast, so that's been fun.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, all right, so that's caught up.
Let's talk about New York, anddo you have anything else to
catch up on?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't think so All right, that's really all that's
happened.
I mean that's my recent.
It's been like now a couple ofmonths, so I'm like I don't know
what else has been happening.
Yeah, but yeah, we went to NewYork.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Went to New York.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We saw Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yay, we saw Hugh Jackman.
Oh, that was the whole reasonwe went to New York but we had,
I mean, the whole trip.
I thought was great.
But Hugh Jackman, I really, Imean, I have like loved him
since it's been at least 20years because he was in a movie
with Ashley Judd called SomeoneLike you, I think it was called,
(33:52):
and oh, he was so cute and itwas like then on, and then you
know all the Wolverine moviesand the Greatest Showman and all
these different things.
So he did like a performance.
It was just about Hugh Jackman.
It was all the songs that he'sdone in previous things.
So we did like a performance.
It was just about Hugh Jackman.
It was all the songs that he'sdone in previous things.
I went to see the music manwith Nanny and we were on the
front row and I gasped when Irealized he was on stage.
(34:14):
I was like, and everyone intheater was like looking at me
and he looked right at me,winked and smiled and continued
on and I was like, oh my, mygosh, I actually bawled after we
walked out of that play.
I just cried um, in this play Ididn't cry, but I did get.
So I look like a child.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I didn't realize I look like that you were taking
video of me and fun to watch youfor sure I was like clapping, I
know the man and I were likelooking at each other like like
it was just like sweet to likewatch like it was like pure joy
is what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I did.
It felt like pure joy.
I don't think I have been thathappy.
I don't even remember.
It was just such a good feelingand I don't know why.
It wasn't like anything washappening to me, but it was just
like I don't know.
I mean, I follow on Instagram.
I understand.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, like that's kind of how I felt, like with
Taylor Swift.
Yeah, when I saw Taylor Swift,it was like just like that pure,
like oh, like you've connectedwith somebody for so long, yeah,
and like you've watched theircareer grow into what it is, and
then you get to like witness,like them in their glory, and
you're like there's a part ofyou that's like I'm so proud of
(35:30):
you, like yeah, yeah, whereyou've come, and also like I'm
so glad and honored like that Iget to witness it like in person
.
So it's definitely and it'slike it's an energy thing too,
like he, his energy was likejust like he was excited and
ready to be there and like thatwas really cool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was very infectious.
And then when he sang when hewas like he's playing a Neil
Diamond impersonator in a moviecoming up with Kate Hudson and I
was like I loved Neil Diamondas a kid, I used to play his
records when I was like I lovedNeil Diamond as a kid.
I used to play his records whenI was little and like seventh,
sixth and seventh grade and justpretend like, just sing and
(36:10):
pretend like I was on stage withNeil Diamond.
So as soon as he startedsinging Song Song Blue and had
that American vest on, I justwas like, oh, I started crying.
I was like, oh, my God, it waslike too I don't know how to
describe it.
It was just so exciting.
And then, after it was over,you left early to go stake out
some like territory for likewhen he comes out afterwards,
(36:33):
because he is known to do that.
And oh my gosh, that was crazy.
So I get out there.
First of all, we couldn't findyou.
We were like walking around thewhole entire Radio City Music
Hall and it was like a mob ofpeople, and I don't do well in a
mob of people.
I was getting so, and thennanny and I'm like come on, and
it was just so.
Then I get to you and you yankme in and then you're like I'm
(36:55):
gonna push you and I was likeyou're gonna push me.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I knew you were gonna not like that.
In the moment In my head I haddecided I was just going to be
okay with you temporarily beingannoyed or upset with me, as for
the later payoff of you gettingto be like close to him or get
a picture or whatever it wasgoing to be.
So I was like I'm just going toprepare myself a little bit for
her to be like anxiouslyfrustrated with me about the
(37:20):
pushing and the close to peopleand the mobs and then later
she's going to be grateful forthis, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And I should have.
Like we waited for so long thatmy feet started hurting, my
back started hurting, I wassweating.
I got scared.
So because I was right there, Icould have reached out and
touched his arm and I got scared.
I'm like I don't want to be aweird stalker lady that touches
him without permission and but Iwish that I had been like can
(37:47):
we take a picture?
Because I know he would have.
I watched him do it in the youknow, during the show, and I
just know that he would have andI just got super scared.
And then this lady had her handright in front of my face with
her sign and I pushed her handaway.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And then I hear you go yeah, basically hitting you,
and I was like I'm literallygonna push you to the ground if
you don't move your hand youwere so funny, you were like so
aggressive and I was like oh mygod, I've just been in those
situations a lot now at thispoint.
Yeah, I know, yeah, I did like Iused to go to playlist live,
(38:26):
which was like a convention.
I remember like youtubers andstuff and um, when I first ever
went, I had that feeling of likebeing so scared, like, because
it's like you're like looking atlike somebody that you have
seen on a screen for so long andthey're that close to you.
You're like starstruck and youfeel like you can't speak.
(38:46):
But I remember when I had gonefor the first time, I went with
my friend at the time and shewas like you just kind of have
to like go, like you like haveto make yourself go, and once
like I got past that barrierwith like the first person, then
I was like okay, because likethen it was like they were
expecting that, like they had.
(39:08):
That's why they were there wasto people.
So, like, when you're insituations like that, you have
to like make yourself like pushpast it just to get there
because, like, the payoff iswhat they are expecting is what
they're expecting.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah, and so I wish that I'd been.
I wish I'd been a little bitmore aggressive and asked for
that and spoken up.
Because I did, I got reallyscared.
I didn't even get to catch hiseye and I was like oh and um,
and he went by like our areakind of fast.
He was so slow in that oneacross the way and I was like
stop like the one girl that wastalking to him.
I'm like wait, everyone needsto get a chance.
(39:44):
And um, and I'm like that'ssilly.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I and if you hadn't been there I would have
left, like I kept turning aroundand you're like no, because I
was like we're not gonna leavebecause you had told me about
when you had waited when youwere there for the music we
didn't wait, we left.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
We should have waited he came out.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah and I was like this is not gonna be one of
those situations like I got upand like pulled ass to this
barricade so that we would havea spot, like we're not leaving,
like he's coming out.
So, especially because I knew Iknew I know what to look for
too, with like if they'reactually gonna come or not, and
like his security was there andthere was police officers and I
(40:25):
was like if he wasn't coming tocome or not, and like his
security was there and there waspolice officers and I was like
if he wasn't coming, they wouldbe, they wouldn't be there, they
wouldn't be standing there likewaiting for that.
So I was like he's definitelycoming, it's just a matter of
when.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So I was like we're not leaving, like your feet will
bleed until we wait, they feltlike they were going to and I
felt like I was peeing, like Iwas just dripping sweat.
I'm like this is terrible, butit was really cool and I was on
a high.
After that, I was wide awakeand it was like what time?
(40:58):
Like midnight.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It was late.
It was like I think it was like1030.
But then by the time we left itwas probably like 1130, 1145.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It was late, yeah, and I stayed awake till I think
like two o'clock in the morning.
I could not go to sleep.
Part of it was I drank.
I had some of your Coke and soI was like on caffeine that I
never I don't even drinkcaffeine anymore and I'm like I
was just I could not go to sleep.
And then I stayed on that highand I was so tired on Sunday
when we went for brunch.
(41:27):
I was so tired, but I'm like,and even like I went to a drama
bookstore by myself and you guysdid your thing, and then I came
back to the hotel and Iactually texted both you and
Nana you see what you were doingand neither one of you
responded.
And so I'm like, yeah, I'm likeI'm not going to just sit here
in New York, I'm going to gowalk around.
(41:47):
And I mean, I've been like thisis probably like the 18th or
19th time.
I can't believe how many timesI've been to New York.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I actually feel too At this point.
I'm like man, I've been a lot.
Yeah, it's like when people gothey like, ask me where to go,
and I'm like.
I have some suggestions for you.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, it's a crazy.
Yeah, I know I did that too.
I just it's like I won'trecommend the restaurant we went
to on the last night, butanyway if you like mac and
cheese, I would recommend it.
Or a good ice cream sandwichBest mac and cheese, it was so
good.
Or a yummy ice cream sandwich.
That's the place to go.
But anyway, so I went walkingand I went to different
(42:28):
bookstores and that was reallyfun too.
Like I just had.
I really enjoyed it.
But I was in such a good moodI'm like nothing is going to
bring me down, and that lastedfor like a week.
Like I felt that way.
I'm like everything that'sgoing on in the world,
everything's fine.
I felt that way.
I'm like everything that'sgoing on in the world, it's
everything's fine.
(42:48):
I got to see Hugh Jackman, so Imean, I did come down, down,
down.
I was like, oh man, but it wasgood.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, we have the best food when we were there.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, we had really good food.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
The French toast, I still.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I miss that.
I don't even know the name ofthat restaurant.
I need to write that down.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I have a picture of it's like a rooftop.
It's like I think that's whatit's called Haven Haven.
It's like in a little boutiquehotel, but like the french toast
litter, it looked like a, likea square brick that they put on
your plate and and the outsidewas like crunchy with like gosh,
it was so good.
Cinnamon sugar and then, likeyou, cut into it and it was so
fluffy and soft inside, oh, soit had a blueberry, like yeah,
(43:35):
it had like this like creamcheese, blueberry like so good.
And it was delicious.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I was delicious.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I would go back strictly for that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, me too, for sure.
And also, we ended up going toa play on Broadway.
That was that Danny picked,that was so good, and Juliet,
which I thought was adorable.
I would totally see it again.
I want to see it again.
I love the music.
I've been listening to thesoundtrack since we got home.
I just I think it is such a funshow.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
So, um, yeah, it was good, so it was fun yeah, yeah,
I got back and I was like I amvery tired I was still in my hue
jackman high for a bit and thenI, then I got tired.
It's just been this past weekthat I'm like, yeah, I had no
idea what to expect with hueJackman, because I kind of just
like tagged along at the lastminute like the plans were that
(44:28):
you and Nanny were gonna go andI was like I want to come um,
and I didn't know that it wasjust like a Hugh.
Jackman show like I thought wewere seeing, like the greatest
showman, like that's what Ithought so when he said, if you
came here for this, you're gonnabe sorely disappointed, no, no,
I realized it once we like gotthere and I also like wasn't 100
(44:52):
sure, because I was like Iwasn't seeing anything and it
was.
It was probably the day beforebecause it said like live from
New York with love or whatever,hugh Jackman, and that's when I
was like okay, it's not what Ithought it was but, I, was.
It's not like.
I was like, oh, I'm bummed,like it was still a really great
show, but it just wasn't.
(45:13):
I had no idea like what toexpect to me.
I was like I'm just so long forthe ride so yeah, and we had
good seats.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I mean, we were were like in row 22.
If you hadn't come, then wemight have been closer.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, it was just.
It was so the fact that he wentinto the audience, though I was
like, oh man, when I was at theMusic, man, I would have been
right there.
Yeah, so it was.
(45:42):
Yeah, it was great Anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
So I think we, I think we thoroughly caught up
yeah, I think so too all right.
Well, I mean, this was kind ofa long episode too all right.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, I like longer episodes, so yeah, it's fine, I
do too.
All right well, until next timewe will see you in two weeks or
two weeks you can go back andlisten to us whenever you want,
but yeah, a new episode willno-transcript.
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