June 2, 2023 • 19 mins
Mindful Chat with Laurie
Laurie Laugeman BSN, RN, HNB-BC, HWNC-BC. A bedside leader on a cardiac and neuro unit. Her nursing practice includes coaching and a holistic approach in caring for herself, colleagues, patients, and families.
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Unknown (00:01):
Hi, how are you?
Damaris Grossmann (00:02):
This is Dr.
Maris Maria Grossman,integrative family nurse
practitioner on mindfullyintegrative podcast and YouTube
channel. Thank you for joiningus today on this episode, and we
have an amazing guest. Her nameis Laurie LogMeIn. And she is a
leader in the nursing field andthe bedside in neuro and
cardiac. In addition, she isalso a holistic nurse and
(00:24):
wellness coach, and she can tellyou more about herself, but she
definitely lives mindfully eachand every day. And Laurie, is
Laurie, correct? Yes. Is thatcorrect? All right. Awesome. And
tell us more about yourself. AndNice to meet you first. How are
you?
Laurie Laugeman (00:42):
Oh, I'm doing so well. And it's nice to meet
you. And I am so excited to behere because living a mindful
life is what I say that I am awork in progress. So yeah, I'm
slowly I'm taking those steps.
Every day, I learn more and moreabout mindfulness, and I
incorporate it in my life, withmy family, and in my work. And
it's such a great blend allaround that it's I'm truly
(01:03):
blessed to have connected withit. And keep it rolling.
Damaris Grossmann (01:08):
Keep it rolling. So, um, first, you
know, let's go into generally,what do people not know about
you? Like as a, you know, you'reinto Integrative Health and
mindfulness, but um, kind ofwhat you know what, what is
something in your life that, youknow, people may not know, that
maybe have brought you to whereyou are or just just a little
(01:30):
fun fact.
Unknown (01:32):
Oh, well, interesting that people would not know that
I was in the Army Reserves in myearly years at the first six
years, and I was an armyreservist
Damaris Grossmann (01:41):
military, I was also military. So you were
in a thank you for your service.
And I commend you too. I know,as a woman, as a veteran myself,
it's, it's a lot.
Unknown (01:51):
It was a lot. And I actually was one of the lucky
ones down in Fort Jackson, SouthCarolina to train with the men.
So at that time, they had justintegrated that the men and
women would train together. Oh,my, at that time, the men were
going to not let a woman bethem. And at that time, the
woman were I'm not going to letthese men beat me. So I think I
(02:13):
came out of that as that giJane. I can relate all Yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (02:18):
so really, you're tough then. Right?
Unknown (02:20):
Right. It really motivated me. And at that same
time my friend went to and I'mnot saying anything bad about
fort McAllen, but she had adifferent experience because she
trained with just the females.
So when we met up in Fort SamHouston, Texas, I felt that I
was gi Jane and about privateBenjamin.
Damaris Grossmann (02:40):
Oh, that's hilarious. Um, I, I definitely
can imagine the training. Imean, at that, by the time I was
a night, we were integrated. SoI can only imagine like you kind
of were a pioneer in the way oflike, kind of getting
transitioning, you know, beingthe voice for women in the
military to you know, it'stough. It's Did you what kind of
job did you have?
Unknown (03:01):
So at that time, I was 91. Charlie, and so that it was,
you know, the I believe if I'mcorrect, that was the medical
assistant.
Damaris Grossmann (03:10):
Oh, so you were in the medical field? And
then you transitioned intonursing after that?
Unknown (03:15):
Yeah. So there really probably was my start with
nursing. And I was alwaysgrowing up. And my mother was a
nurse. And she told us greatstories about working as a
nurse. But unfortunately, Isaid, Oh, I'll never do that.
There's so much blood and guts,I could never do that. Right? I
didn't want to be a nurse. Andsomehow I did find myself in the
military as a medic. Yeah, Ireally found out how important
(03:37):
it was and to make thoseconnections with people and how
you made a difference. And Ithink from there on, I was sold.
I went on through the army paidfor my training, and I trained
with the army to become an LPN.
And then I was an LPN for a longtime after I got out of the
army, and then I moved on to getmy rn. But what really inspired
me to get my Rn is I wanted tobecome a holistic nurse. And to
(04:01):
become a holistic nurse, youneeded to be an RN,
Damaris Grossmann (04:06):
and what means you kind of like
transition to that holisticnurse thing, because that
doesn't usually come up forsomeone regularly. Like for me,
it did came up a little earlier,but it was a traumatic event
that transition, my pain, youknow, so what, what transitioned
you to go, I want to be aholistic nurse.
Unknown (04:22):
I was lucky enough in my early days to have, you know,
four children and sometimeshelpless, and have ear
infections and different things.
And at that time, I was lookinginto ways that I could help my
children and I stumbled uponherbs and vitamins. And then I
stumbled upon reflexology, and Istumbled upon healing touch, and
all these great modalities thatI was using with my family. I
(04:46):
thought, you know, how can I youknow, do this as a nurse. You
know, that's what I reallythought that a holistic nurse
was somebody who would use allthese modalities. So that was
really my inspiration. Go on andget my Rn and to seek this
holistic nursing.
Damaris Grossmann (05:05):
That that makes that makes a lot of sense.
I mean, and you've kind of werelike, I need to figure out a way
to like, make people better in adifferent way and a whole a
whole health approach, like wetalked about here.
Unknown (05:17):
Yes, yes. And then I had the opportunity that I also
did home care. And I took careof, you know, clients who were
quadriplegics, and that is aextremely mindful moment to look
back on that you were in thatmoment and to be present with
that person in that time,because that's such an important
(05:39):
space for them.
Damaris Grossmann (05:40):
Oh, and then the, there they need you like,
You're, you're the one personthat they need, they need total
care. So why for you, you It'sexhausting some days. So it's
like, you're centering you. Andthen addition you have to now
you have to be there for them todo almost everything. Right.
Unknown (05:56):
Right. I think I love that I had a passion for that,
that I was the I guess thebarber for the men but the
hairdresser, the housekeeper,the coach, for everything. So it
truly was that holisticphilosophy of being truly there
with the patient. Yeah, client.
And I thought that's what tookme from thinking that I could
hang up a shingle and be aholistic nurse and do something
(06:19):
to people, to really thatholistic nursing was me caring
for myself to be in the bestplace. So I could truly be
present with my patients. And Ithink that's looking back, being
present is so mindfully, how Ilike to be with my patients
Damaris Grossmann (06:38):
No, and that it's just so important because
we just like with a busy nurseschedule, or nurse or work in
general, we don't always dothat, you know, and that's kind
of it's just as tough and andnow you mean you've already you
learned the tools and and how doyou like have you considered
like things that made youstruggle or things that inspired
(07:00):
you to like grow from this? Orwas it you know, the patients
the homecare patients, was it aor was it just an event that
Unknown (07:07):
Oh, always loving my patients and I learned from my
patient probably just as much aswe learn from each other
developing those relationships.
My struggles probably was beinga nurse. As a nurse, you
sometimes lose patients and youprovide that awesome care to
families and patients who are atend of life. For me though, when
my sister was sick, it was sochallenging because the holistic
(07:29):
nurse, the health care, part ofme wanted to help her to get
better but the other side of mecould say we're not going down
that road. So how do you keeppromoting get better you're
going to get through this aswell as preparing for what's
coming I think like more onpalliative hospice or just
looking at it as a
Damaris Grossmann (07:51):
healing like or trying to keep her like
what's the word? I'm gonna saypalliative but you know, keep
her healthy and happy to the endof life or was this an end of
life? Did she pass?
Unknown (08:03):
Right right that's what it was. Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry
for a long because you wanted tokeep fighting for her to get
better but you really knew thatit was going a different
direction. And could we moveinto that space and we did move
into that space one thing shesaid I think it's beautiful as
my mother and I we were all veryclose and she said I don't know
how to do this I've never donethis Yeah, and we were able to
(08:29):
go through it together and youknow she she did very well and
of course we miss her but for methose are the struggles of
losing those people so close tome
Damaris Grossmann (08:38):
so close I'm so sorry. I mean especially this
year was it recent okay, but youstill but she means a lot to you
I mean any loss No matter if itwas recent or years ago, it you
know, you don't it doesn't justgo away. And and you've been
able to use your not just yourholistic training, but the way
that you are all whole, wholeare well rounded, you've been
(09:03):
able to kind of center whetherit's your faith to I don't know,
if you're, you know, you've justbeen able to kind of center
yourself to get through the dayand get through the those
moments. I can only imagine howhard it is and then can those
times be? Would you say thestruggles have made you better?
Oh,
Unknown (09:20):
I love learning whether it's from good things that
happened to me or bad choices.
Just always learning. Yes.
Damaris Grossmann (09:27):
Yeah.
Unknown (09:28):
I always hold on.
Damaris Grossmann (09:38):
Hold on. I'll just have to add that. So in
reference to, like, Is thereanyone in your career or in life
that has inspired you to do morewith either with your patients
or when you were doing yourtraining, like what kind of like
who has inspired you throughoutyour career and life? Oh, it
Unknown (10:00):
may be cliche. But is that Florence Nightingale? Oh,
that's
Damaris Grossmann (10:04):
beautiful.
Okay, oh, that's that's a goodone.
Unknown (10:07):
And just her Florence being the pioneer. And there,
she had said 200 years ago thatthe nurses of today would be the
change makers. And her vision,her philosophy and her belief in
the nursing profession is, youknow, fabulous. And I've taken
at nurses week that I dress upas Florence. And yeah, what's up
(10:28):
is Florence and visit thenursing unit site before COVID.
And I would share information onself care, mindfulness and tools
to help nurses with their selfcare.
Damaris Grossmann (10:38):
Oh, that's so great. Are you implementing a
lot of your techniques with yourpatients to in the at work?
Unknown (10:45):
Yes, I love to be you know, mindful at my job, our
floor, we were the loveflouride, my unit, three, South,
all our colleagues, we love eachother, we support each other so
much. And those are thosemindful moments that we talk
about mindful hand washing, thatyou just, you know, just taking
that, you know, 60 seconds towash your hands, ground your
(11:06):
feet. And you know, wash yourhands that those are mindful
moments. And we talk about beingpresent with our patients that
if you go in that room, we do dobedside report, but we also
share, you know, that's yourtime to make eye contact and
just truly be present and listento your patients. I think you
know, those are easy ways thatwe just bring in that
(11:27):
mindfulness. And I do try to dothat one time I was with a
patient. And I came in and Islowly moved in, and I was truly
present. And he said to me, oh,you're really busy today out
there, aren't you? And I said,Well, I'm right here with you
now and everything. He said, Oh,but you're busy. I see you
running back and forth. Yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (11:47):
yeah. He was aware. But you were there for
him? And was it morechallenging? I mean, this wasn't
something I was gonna ask. Butwas it more challenging, of
course, because of COVID thisyear with trying to kind of keep
that, you know, cool, or thatcenteredness within yourself and
for your patients? Or did youfind because you've had the
(12:08):
training and the time that itwas the it was even more
important?
Unknown (12:12):
I think it's always important. Even more important,
I think was the connections withthe colleagues, connections are
one of those as things wereescalating and frustrations on
the unit, we could bring it backto say, Okay, let's chill,
what's working? How can we helpeach other? How can we just be
in this moment? And to me, thoseare mindful moments that we can
(12:35):
pause and say, okay, what'sworking? We got this, Do you
need anything? And I think ifour unit didn't have that
mindful philosophy, that weprobably would be more, we'd be
more upset in the chaos that wehave sometimes.
Damaris Grossmann (12:50):
Yeah, I can only imagine, especially this
year, you know, it's been, itwas a struggle for most
individuals and kind of wherethey were at. And, um, did you
go to specific training? Or didlike, were you in a specific
training that got you to whereyou're at? Or did you kind of
learn on your own through faithand, and just reading
Unknown (13:11):
a little bit of both.
So I was introduced tomindfulness. I've, as a holistic
nurse, I've had so manyopportunities to go to the
conferences, which I love. I'vetaken several sessions on
mindfulness for, you know,creating that as a self care for
myself.
Damaris Grossmann (13:25):
Yeah, not just mindfulness, but
Integrative Health and holistictraining, you went to a lot of
different trainings for that.
Yeah.
Unknown (13:31):
And oh, yeah. So
Damaris Grossmann (13:32):
what's your favorite modality? Let's say,
how about that?
Unknown (13:35):
You know, I would I would put my mindfulness as the
top because that helps me in allmy relationships everywhere.
Well, that's tricky. I love myhomeopathy.
Damaris Grossmann (13:44):
homeopathy.
Yeah.
Unknown (13:47):
I love healing touch, because that's something that I
can also offer. Those are greatthings. And, you know,
reflexology is wonderful if youget, you know, my kids in the
chair, and I start working ontheir feet when they were 15 and
16. The stories that they wouldtell was a little you know, they
would get a little relax, and
Damaris Grossmann (14:07):
that's cool.
Yeah, I just, I love thedifferent modalities. And it's
like, like, you were saying,it's not just the modalities,
but it's kind of neat. Everybodyhas different ones that they
use. And I just was wondering,you know, what was something
that you kind of drew were drawnto, um, and then overall, like,
Do you find that in? You've beenmindful, like, mindful ways on
every day? Or, like, what kindof would be your teaching moment
(14:32):
for someone today? to help themif they were haven't necessarily
found a way to be centered? Whatis your take home for our
audience today?
Unknown (14:47):
I think it's challenging when someone would
be even myself upset or mychildren or my patients and
oftentimes people will say, Oh,just relax. Just breathe right
away. Seems send you the otherway.
Damaris Grossmann (15:03):
I have a tip.
Unknown (15:05):
I think it's just being quiet. Um, take just a minute to
feel yourself breathe and tomaybe close your eyes and
disconnect from all thatexternal stuff. Sometimes that's
all it takes is that and I also,you know, for me, I have to tell
myself, okay, it's okay rightnow you're okay, right now
(15:26):
everything's okay right now. Andsomeone once shared with me his
watch. And he showed me and itsaid Now that everything's okay
now. So yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (15:37):
that makes sense. You know, you're okay.
Now, you know, this is themoment right now is where you
have to be. And that's so it'snot the before it's not the
after. It's the now that makessense.
Unknown (15:48):
I'd love it. Yeah. So this chaos at work, just be
here. Now we got this chaos athome or Okay.
Damaris Grossmann (15:57):
Do you have anything that is upcoming or
that you'd like to share in yourbusiness or work that you'd like
to tell the audience how theycan definitely be reaching you
in the social links that I'llhave. But is there more that you
like to? Do you have a businessnow or that you add to this or a
way that we can reach you?
Unknown (16:18):
Sure, right now I'm doing individual coaching. And
that's can reach me through myemail, again, as the chapter
leader of the Western New Yorkholistic Nurses Association.
Actually, next Thursday, Ibelieve the title is replenish
yourself before, during andafter your shift. And that will
be on my website. And thenwonderful.
Damaris Grossmann (16:39):
Oh, and we'll have your website links on our
show notes. I don't know. Whatis your website so that we
everyone can go to just for ifthey are not able to see it
right away? What's your websitethat they can go to?
Unknown (16:52):
Sure. It's a H and a WNY? chapter? Oh, no, I'm sorry.
That's the wrong one. Sorry.
Damaris Grossmann (17:00):
Oh, no, that's okay. Um, I mean, I'll
have them all.
Unknown (17:03):
I can have it in the links. If you if you just looked
up holistic nursing in westernNew York, it'll show up.
Damaris Grossmann (17:09):
Okay, perfect. Yeah, I would love for
them to check you out and checkout the that event if it's
available. So um, thank you somuch. And I appreciate you being
on the show today. Is thereanything additional that you'd
like to share with our audience,enter? listeners,
Unknown (17:26):
I just think it's great that you're taking this
opportunity to create thispodcast to share a little tips.
Because I think that's all aboutlearning many moments of how we
can care for ourselves in thisbusy world. Sometimes it's a
calm world, sometimes it'schaotic. It's always beautiful.
But sometimes, we can't alwayssee it. So I think what you're
doing is helping us to allremember how beautiful it is
(17:49):
with mindful moments.
Damaris Grossmann (17:50):
Thank you.
And I really appreciate youbeing on the the podcast and the
YouTube channel, Marie. So withthat, guys, I appreciate you
being here on mindfullyintegrative podcast. And I hope
that each and every day you guysfind a mindful way to be in the
moment. Thanks so much forjoining us. And thank you for
(18:13):
listening. Thanks so much,Laurie, you have a wonderful
day, guys.
Unknown (18:20):
Bye Bye. Thanks.
Hi, how are you?
Damaris Grossmann (00:02):
This is Dr.
Maris Maria Grossman,integrative family nurse
practitioner on mindfullyintegrative podcast and YouTube
channel. Thank you for joiningus today on this episode, and we
have an amazing guest. Her nameis Laurie LogMeIn. And she is a
leader in the nursing field andthe bedside in neuro and
cardiac. In addition, she isalso a holistic nurse and
(00:24):
wellness coach, and she can tellyou more about herself, but she
definitely lives mindfully eachand every day. And Laurie, is
Laurie, correct? Yes. Is thatcorrect? All right. Awesome. And
tell us more about yourself. AndNice to meet you first. How are
you?
Laurie Laugeman (00:42):
Oh, I'm doing so well. And it's nice to meet
you. And I am so excited to behere because living a mindful
life is what I say that I am awork in progress. So yeah, I'm
slowly I'm taking those steps.
Every day, I learn more and moreabout mindfulness, and I
incorporate it in my life, withmy family, and in my work. And
it's such a great blend allaround that it's I'm truly
(01:03):
blessed to have connected withit. And keep it rolling.
Damaris Grossmann (01:08):
Keep it rolling. So, um, first, you
know, let's go into generally,what do people not know about
you? Like as a, you know, you'reinto Integrative Health and
mindfulness, but um, kind ofwhat you know what, what is
something in your life that, youknow, people may not know, that
maybe have brought you to whereyou are or just just a little
(01:30):
fun fact.
Unknown (01:32):
Oh, well, interesting that people would not know that
I was in the Army Reserves in myearly years at the first six
years, and I was an armyreservist
Damaris Grossmann (01:41):
military, I was also military. So you were
in a thank you for your service.
And I commend you too. I know,as a woman, as a veteran myself,
it's, it's a lot.
Unknown (01:51):
It was a lot. And I actually was one of the lucky
ones down in Fort Jackson, SouthCarolina to train with the men.
So at that time, they had justintegrated that the men and
women would train together. Oh,my, at that time, the men were
going to not let a woman bethem. And at that time, the
woman were I'm not going to letthese men beat me. So I think I
(02:13):
came out of that as that giJane. I can relate all Yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (02:18):
so really, you're tough then. Right?
Unknown (02:20):
Right. It really motivated me. And at that same
time my friend went to and I'mnot saying anything bad about
fort McAllen, but she had adifferent experience because she
trained with just the females.
So when we met up in Fort SamHouston, Texas, I felt that I
was gi Jane and about privateBenjamin.
Damaris Grossmann (02:40):
Oh, that's hilarious. Um, I, I definitely
can imagine the training. Imean, at that, by the time I was
a night, we were integrated. SoI can only imagine like you kind
of were a pioneer in the way oflike, kind of getting
transitioning, you know, beingthe voice for women in the
military to you know, it'stough. It's Did you what kind of
job did you have?
Unknown (03:01):
So at that time, I was 91. Charlie, and so that it was,
you know, the I believe if I'mcorrect, that was the medical
assistant.
Damaris Grossmann (03:10):
Oh, so you were in the medical field? And
then you transitioned intonursing after that?
Unknown (03:15):
Yeah. So there really probably was my start with
nursing. And I was alwaysgrowing up. And my mother was a
nurse. And she told us greatstories about working as a
nurse. But unfortunately, Isaid, Oh, I'll never do that.
There's so much blood and guts,I could never do that. Right? I
didn't want to be a nurse. Andsomehow I did find myself in the
military as a medic. Yeah, Ireally found out how important
(03:37):
it was and to make thoseconnections with people and how
you made a difference. And Ithink from there on, I was sold.
I went on through the army paidfor my training, and I trained
with the army to become an LPN.
And then I was an LPN for a longtime after I got out of the
army, and then I moved on to getmy rn. But what really inspired
me to get my Rn is I wanted tobecome a holistic nurse. And to
(04:01):
become a holistic nurse, youneeded to be an RN,
Damaris Grossmann (04:06):
and what means you kind of like
transition to that holisticnurse thing, because that
doesn't usually come up forsomeone regularly. Like for me,
it did came up a little earlier,but it was a traumatic event
that transition, my pain, youknow, so what, what transitioned
you to go, I want to be aholistic nurse.
Unknown (04:22):
I was lucky enough in my early days to have, you know,
four children and sometimeshelpless, and have ear
infections and different things.
And at that time, I was lookinginto ways that I could help my
children and I stumbled uponherbs and vitamins. And then I
stumbled upon reflexology, and Istumbled upon healing touch, and
all these great modalities thatI was using with my family. I
(04:46):
thought, you know, how can I youknow, do this as a nurse. You
know, that's what I reallythought that a holistic nurse
was somebody who would use allthese modalities. So that was
really my inspiration. Go on andget my Rn and to seek this
holistic nursing.
Damaris Grossmann (05:05):
That that makes that makes a lot of sense.
I mean, and you've kind of werelike, I need to figure out a way
to like, make people better in adifferent way and a whole a
whole health approach, like wetalked about here.
Unknown (05:17):
Yes, yes. And then I had the opportunity that I also
did home care. And I took careof, you know, clients who were
quadriplegics, and that is aextremely mindful moment to look
back on that you were in thatmoment and to be present with
that person in that time,because that's such an important
(05:39):
space for them.
Damaris Grossmann (05:40):
Oh, and then the, there they need you like,
You're, you're the one personthat they need, they need total
care. So why for you, you It'sexhausting some days. So it's
like, you're centering you. Andthen addition you have to now
you have to be there for them todo almost everything. Right.
Unknown (05:56):
Right. I think I love that I had a passion for that,
that I was the I guess thebarber for the men but the
hairdresser, the housekeeper,the coach, for everything. So it
truly was that holisticphilosophy of being truly there
with the patient. Yeah, client.
And I thought that's what tookme from thinking that I could
hang up a shingle and be aholistic nurse and do something
(06:19):
to people, to really thatholistic nursing was me caring
for myself to be in the bestplace. So I could truly be
present with my patients. And Ithink that's looking back, being
present is so mindfully, how Ilike to be with my patients
Damaris Grossmann (06:38):
No, and that it's just so important because
we just like with a busy nurseschedule, or nurse or work in
general, we don't always dothat, you know, and that's kind
of it's just as tough and andnow you mean you've already you
learned the tools and and how doyou like have you considered
like things that made youstruggle or things that inspired
(07:00):
you to like grow from this? Orwas it you know, the patients
the homecare patients, was it aor was it just an event that
Unknown (07:07):
Oh, always loving my patients and I learned from my
patient probably just as much aswe learn from each other
developing those relationships.
My struggles probably was beinga nurse. As a nurse, you
sometimes lose patients and youprovide that awesome care to
families and patients who are atend of life. For me though, when
my sister was sick, it was sochallenging because the holistic
(07:29):
nurse, the health care, part ofme wanted to help her to get
better but the other side of mecould say we're not going down
that road. So how do you keeppromoting get better you're
going to get through this aswell as preparing for what's
coming I think like more onpalliative hospice or just
looking at it as a
Damaris Grossmann (07:51):
healing like or trying to keep her like
what's the word? I'm gonna saypalliative but you know, keep
her healthy and happy to the endof life or was this an end of
life? Did she pass?
Unknown (08:03):
Right right that's what it was. Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry
for a long because you wanted tokeep fighting for her to get
better but you really knew thatit was going a different
direction. And could we moveinto that space and we did move
into that space one thing shesaid I think it's beautiful as
my mother and I we were all veryclose and she said I don't know
how to do this I've never donethis Yeah, and we were able to
(08:29):
go through it together and youknow she she did very well and
of course we miss her but for methose are the struggles of
losing those people so close tome
Damaris Grossmann (08:38):
so close I'm so sorry. I mean especially this
year was it recent okay, but youstill but she means a lot to you
I mean any loss No matter if itwas recent or years ago, it you
know, you don't it doesn't justgo away. And and you've been
able to use your not just yourholistic training, but the way
that you are all whole, wholeare well rounded, you've been
(09:03):
able to kind of center whetherit's your faith to I don't know,
if you're, you know, you've justbeen able to kind of center
yourself to get through the dayand get through the those
moments. I can only imagine howhard it is and then can those
times be? Would you say thestruggles have made you better?
Oh,
Unknown (09:20):
I love learning whether it's from good things that
happened to me or bad choices.
Just always learning. Yes.
Damaris Grossmann (09:27):
Yeah.
Unknown (09:28):
I always hold on.
Damaris Grossmann (09:38):
Hold on. I'll just have to add that. So in
reference to, like, Is thereanyone in your career or in life
that has inspired you to do morewith either with your patients
or when you were doing yourtraining, like what kind of like
who has inspired you throughoutyour career and life? Oh, it
Unknown (10:00):
may be cliche. But is that Florence Nightingale? Oh,
that's
Damaris Grossmann (10:04):
beautiful.
Okay, oh, that's that's a goodone.
Unknown (10:07):
And just her Florence being the pioneer. And there,
she had said 200 years ago thatthe nurses of today would be the
change makers. And her vision,her philosophy and her belief in
the nursing profession is, youknow, fabulous. And I've taken
at nurses week that I dress upas Florence. And yeah, what's up
(10:28):
is Florence and visit thenursing unit site before COVID.
And I would share information onself care, mindfulness and tools
to help nurses with their selfcare.
Damaris Grossmann (10:38):
Oh, that's so great. Are you implementing a
lot of your techniques with yourpatients to in the at work?
Unknown (10:45):
Yes, I love to be you know, mindful at my job, our
floor, we were the loveflouride, my unit, three, South,
all our colleagues, we love eachother, we support each other so
much. And those are thosemindful moments that we talk
about mindful hand washing, thatyou just, you know, just taking
that, you know, 60 seconds towash your hands, ground your
(11:06):
feet. And you know, wash yourhands that those are mindful
moments. And we talk about beingpresent with our patients that
if you go in that room, we do dobedside report, but we also
share, you know, that's yourtime to make eye contact and
just truly be present and listento your patients. I think you
know, those are easy ways thatwe just bring in that
(11:27):
mindfulness. And I do try to dothat one time I was with a
patient. And I came in and Islowly moved in, and I was truly
present. And he said to me, oh,you're really busy today out
there, aren't you? And I said,Well, I'm right here with you
now and everything. He said, Oh,but you're busy. I see you
running back and forth. Yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (11:47):
yeah. He was aware. But you were there for
him? And was it morechallenging? I mean, this wasn't
something I was gonna ask. Butwas it more challenging, of
course, because of COVID thisyear with trying to kind of keep
that, you know, cool, or thatcenteredness within yourself and
for your patients? Or did youfind because you've had the
(12:08):
training and the time that itwas the it was even more
important?
Unknown (12:12):
I think it's always important. Even more important,
I think was the connections withthe colleagues, connections are
one of those as things wereescalating and frustrations on
the unit, we could bring it backto say, Okay, let's chill,
what's working? How can we helpeach other? How can we just be
in this moment? And to me, thoseare mindful moments that we can
(12:35):
pause and say, okay, what'sworking? We got this, Do you
need anything? And I think ifour unit didn't have that
mindful philosophy, that weprobably would be more, we'd be
more upset in the chaos that wehave sometimes.
Damaris Grossmann (12:50):
Yeah, I can only imagine, especially this
year, you know, it's been, itwas a struggle for most
individuals and kind of wherethey were at. And, um, did you
go to specific training? Or didlike, were you in a specific
training that got you to whereyou're at? Or did you kind of
learn on your own through faithand, and just reading
Unknown (13:11):
a little bit of both.
So I was introduced tomindfulness. I've, as a holistic
nurse, I've had so manyopportunities to go to the
conferences, which I love. I'vetaken several sessions on
mindfulness for, you know,creating that as a self care for
myself.
Damaris Grossmann (13:25):
Yeah, not just mindfulness, but
Integrative Health and holistictraining, you went to a lot of
different trainings for that.
Yeah.
Unknown (13:31):
And oh, yeah. So
Damaris Grossmann (13:32):
what's your favorite modality? Let's say,
how about that?
Unknown (13:35):
You know, I would I would put my mindfulness as the
top because that helps me in allmy relationships everywhere.
Well, that's tricky. I love myhomeopathy.
Damaris Grossmann (13:44):
homeopathy.
Yeah.
Unknown (13:47):
I love healing touch, because that's something that I
can also offer. Those are greatthings. And, you know,
reflexology is wonderful if youget, you know, my kids in the
chair, and I start working ontheir feet when they were 15 and
16. The stories that they wouldtell was a little you know, they
would get a little relax, and
Damaris Grossmann (14:07):
that's cool.
Yeah, I just, I love thedifferent modalities. And it's
like, like, you were saying,it's not just the modalities,
but it's kind of neat. Everybodyhas different ones that they
use. And I just was wondering,you know, what was something
that you kind of drew were drawnto, um, and then overall, like,
Do you find that in? You've beenmindful, like, mindful ways on
every day? Or, like, what kindof would be your teaching moment
(14:32):
for someone today? to help themif they were haven't necessarily
found a way to be centered? Whatis your take home for our
audience today?
Unknown (14:47):
I think it's challenging when someone would
be even myself upset or mychildren or my patients and
oftentimes people will say, Oh,just relax. Just breathe right
away. Seems send you the otherway.
Damaris Grossmann (15:03):
I have a tip.
Unknown (15:05):
I think it's just being quiet. Um, take just a minute to
feel yourself breathe and tomaybe close your eyes and
disconnect from all thatexternal stuff. Sometimes that's
all it takes is that and I also,you know, for me, I have to tell
myself, okay, it's okay rightnow you're okay, right now
(15:26):
everything's okay right now. Andsomeone once shared with me his
watch. And he showed me and itsaid Now that everything's okay
now. So yeah,
Damaris Grossmann (15:37):
that makes sense. You know, you're okay.
Now, you know, this is themoment right now is where you
have to be. And that's so it'snot the before it's not the
after. It's the now that makessense.
Unknown (15:48):
I'd love it. Yeah. So this chaos at work, just be
here. Now we got this chaos athome or Okay.
Damaris Grossmann (15:57):
Do you have anything that is upcoming or
that you'd like to share in yourbusiness or work that you'd like
to tell the audience how theycan definitely be reaching you
in the social links that I'llhave. But is there more that you
like to? Do you have a businessnow or that you add to this or a
way that we can reach you?
Unknown (16:18):
Sure, right now I'm doing individual coaching. And
that's can reach me through myemail, again, as the chapter
leader of the Western New Yorkholistic Nurses Association.
Actually, next Thursday, Ibelieve the title is replenish
yourself before, during andafter your shift. And that will
be on my website. And thenwonderful.
Damaris Grossmann (16:39):
Oh, and we'll have your website links on our
show notes. I don't know. Whatis your website so that we
everyone can go to just for ifthey are not able to see it
right away? What's your websitethat they can go to?
Unknown (16:52):
Sure. It's a H and a WNY? chapter? Oh, no, I'm sorry.
That's the wrong one. Sorry.
Damaris Grossmann (17:00):
Oh, no, that's okay. Um, I mean, I'll
have them all.
Unknown (17:03):
I can have it in the links. If you if you just looked
up holistic nursing in westernNew York, it'll show up.
Damaris Grossmann (17:09):
Okay, perfect. Yeah, I would love for
them to check you out and checkout the that event if it's
available. So um, thank you somuch. And I appreciate you being
on the show today. Is thereanything additional that you'd
like to share with our audience,enter? listeners,
Unknown (17:26):
I just think it's great that you're taking this
opportunity to create thispodcast to share a little tips.
Because I think that's all aboutlearning many moments of how we
can care for ourselves in thisbusy world. Sometimes it's a
calm world, sometimes it'schaotic. It's always beautiful.
But sometimes, we can't alwayssee it. So I think what you're
doing is helping us to allremember how beautiful it is
(17:49):
with mindful moments.
Damaris Grossmann (17:50):
Thank you.
And I really appreciate youbeing on the the podcast and the
YouTube channel, Marie. So withthat, guys, I appreciate you
being here on mindfullyintegrative podcast. And I hope
that each and every day you guysfind a mindful way to be in the
moment. Thanks so much forjoining us. And thank you for
(18:13):
listening. Thanks so much,Laurie, you have a wonderful
day, guys.
Unknown (18:20):
Bye Bye. Thanks.
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