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July 9, 2025 • 52 mins
In this episode, Elena Apalkova converses with Cody Butler about common human desires and the impact of self-sabotage and subconscious programs on personal growth. Cody shares insights on identifying and changing subconscious patterns, offering techniques for thought awareness and transformation. The discussion includes Cody's work, "The Greatest Comeback in History Is You," and explores the importance of analyzing actions and thoughts for self-improvement. They outline steps to change mental programming, emphasizing bold steps and faith in personal growth. The conversation highlights navigating uncertainties, the value of mentorship, and concludes with advice on elevating personal standards.
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Hello.
Hello.
Welcome to mindset to results.
Today, our guest is Cody Butler, and, we willspeak about so important topic that is the
power of subconscious and how override it.
Cody is the best selling author andtransformational expert, and we are going to

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discover so much.
And thank you, Cody, for showing your passionand interest to be a guest in our podcast.
We are looking forward to learn a lot from youin this episode.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Tell us a little bit about you, how you do whatyou do, what is the passion about it.

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Well, so we're all we're all seeking somethingthat we don't have, which is why we we we would
be watching or listening to this podcast rightnow is we're seeking so we don't have a state
of being, a piece of financial success, health,relationship.
We're looking for something that's beenelusive.
And if we were looking for it, we would havefound it by now.

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And what we do typically is like, you ever lostyour car keys and you've you've looked in the
same drawer 20 times?
And you know the keys are not in that drawer,but you keep looking in the same drawer over
and over and over to find those.
And that that's to do with our lives.
We we we're looking for something, and becausewe don't really know where to look, we just

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keep looking in the same place over and overand over again.
And it's not that what we want is notavailable.
It's that we just don't know where to look forit.
Oh, this is interesting.
So tell us more about this, where to look forthen.
Well, the great psychologist Carl Jung oncesaid that until the unconscious is made

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conscious, it will continue to control yourlife and you shall call it fate.
And that's very, very true.
And a lot of times when I work with people,have statements like, Well, what do you expect,
Cody?
I'm Italian.
Or, What do you expect?
My family was that way.
Or, I was raised like this.
And we look at our lives as conditions when, infact, they're not conditions at all, they're

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consequences.
Our lives are consequences.
They're consequences of choices that we'vemade, decisions that we've made.
And as Carl Jung said, those decisions are indarkness right now.
And until we can bring those into the light,then they're going to continue they're going to
continue to control your life, and you're gonnacall your life a condition instead of a

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consequence.
Yes.
So this is all about decisions and choices.
And the question is why we do these decisions.
Yes?
Why we make these choices?
What is behind?
So tell us about this, how people can beconscious about their decisions because they
think that this is what they have.

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Yes.
Decisions comes automatically, they they thinkthat it is just how they are.
And they don't usually question, like, what isbehind that?
Why I make this decision?
Sure.
Sure.
So a great a great example, Elena.
Years in my in my twenties and thirties, excuseme, I I had no problem getting things.

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I was a millionaire by the age of 24.
I was bankrupt by the age of 25.
I bought my dream house, the bank foreclosed onit.
I got my dream car, I wrecked it.
Got into my dream relationship, she left me.
And throughout the first two decades of myadult life, I had no challenge whatsoever
getting the things that I wanted, couldn't hangon to them.

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And one day after another broken relationship,and I was in a very bad state, I was depressed,
anxious, couldn't get out of bed, and I wasreally just crying out, Why does this happen to
me all the time?
Why do I keep losing everything?
Why does everything and all of it came to mewhen I was five years old, and my father came
home from work, and he was holding a glove.

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And he asked me, goes, Do you know where Ifound this glove, Cody?
And I said, No.
He goes, I found it down the road, on the sideof the road.
And he looked at me and he goes, You don'tdeserve nice things.
He didn't say, You can't get nice things.
He said, You don't deserve nice things.
And as a five year old, when you're looking atthe deity in your life at that point, the

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person who is unquestionable, the person thatis handing you your worldview and giving you
your self esteem and sense of purposeunquestioned, that information is going
unfiltered as a five year old, and when the manof that person in that authority tells you that
you don't deserve nice things, well, guess whatyou're gonna do every time you get nice things

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in your life?
You're going
Yeah.
This is how you've
Yeah.
Your mind is gonna go, Cody, you you don'tdeserve these nice things, and you're gonna
find a way to lose them.
You're going to sabotage yourself every singletime.
Yes.
It is very interesting that it happens totallyunconscious.

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This is not that you want to to lose, but it isnot up to you.
It's just your subconscious mind just finds away how to, accomplish that program, which is
there and how to make it your reality.
And you're running those programs in everyaspect of your life.
You're running that program in your health.

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You're running that program in yourrelationships.
You're running that those finances.
And if your subconscious beliefs have youprogrammed financially at a certain level, you
will not exceed that level, and if you do,you'll come back down very quickly.
This is the lose the weight cycle, right?
We lose the weight, we put it back on.

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We lose the weight, we put it back on.
We find the relationship, we break it.
We find the relationship, we break it.
We always come back to a reset point.
And if you want to know what the subconsciouspatterns that are running your life are, look
at your life.
If you're continuously engaging in selfsabotaging relationships, or if you're getting

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into abusive relationships, your subconsciouspatterns are telling you, you deserve abuse.
If are failing to produce finances, then thesubconscious pattern that's running you is
telling you, you don't deserve money, or youhave some negative belief around money.
Every single aspect of your life is ruled bythese subconscious beliefs that they cannot be

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overwritten, but they can be changed.
Yeah.
So we came here to the interesting point how tochange them.
And, of course, initially, we have to find themout what are the programs which run-in my life.
And, of course, everyone can see the samepatterns, yes, because it is the same program

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just and we are the cause of everything.
And what we see in our life is effect.
Yes.
Effect of our choices, decisions, actions.
So Yeah.
We can look at those patterns as you said.
So how to identify what exactly happened?
Like, how did you identify what that it wasrelated to that situation when when father told

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you that you don't deserve good things?
So the so the bottom line is you don't need toknow where it came from to overcome it.
You just need to know that it's running.
So most people, they don't they don't look attheir financial pattern, for example, and go,

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my subconscious operating system here istelling me that I don't deserve abundant
finances, and start from there.
You don't need to go back to where that came.
It probably came from a thousand differentplaces, you know.
A rich man will never get into heaven.
If you're rich, you must be greedy.
Money doesn't grow on trees.
Money won't make you happy.

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Like, there are we can all say a thousandthings about money, right?
If I ask you the question, Elena, speakquickly.
What is the first thing that comes to your mindaround money?
The things will come out very quickly thatalmost certainly do not support abundance.

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So we don't need to know where they came from.
Keeping us poor is very beneficial to society.
As long as you're poor, you're working.
As long as you're poor, you're working forsomebody for minimum wage.
If you were to become financially affluent, youwould no longer be useful to the system.
You would no longer be useful to organizedreligion.

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You would no longer be controllable.
So where have these patents come from?
Well, there's multitude of places that they'vecome from.
You need to know.
Mhmm.
So Yeah.
So, yeah, so I yeah.
From what you said that it can be differentdifferent times when we got conditioned, yeah,

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through repetition, the same and same things,but in different phrases.
But it is, meaning was the same because it ishow we grow up, yes, and how we were part of
this society.
And now this is time for waking up, yes, andfor personal development.
And why it is called personal development?

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It is when we take control and start searchingfor things which really will shape our future
because we don't like results some results inour life today.
Well, I I don't I don't I don't like, I I agreewith you in principle.
I think the language I have some issues with.
So personal development is it's like therapy,personal development, coaching.

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You you asked me, how do I want to beintroduced before we came on?
And you said, coach, and I'm like, coach isokay, but it's not really accurate.
Here's the thing, right?
It's not a progression.
It's not something that takes a long time.
Personal development is a progression.
Self help is a progression.
Therapy is a progression.
We slowly get better over time.

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These beliefs, they don't get slowly removedover time.
It's like firing a gun.
You can't kind of sort of fire a gun.
It's been fired or it hasn't.
And truth of the matter is, a lot of thesebeliefs, they're installed by ourselves.
How many times have you gone to the shop andlooked at something and said, I can't afford
this?
Or, This is too expensive?

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These are not other people installing thosebeliefs.
This is us reinforcing our and I prefer to behonest, like, to me, personal therapy or
personal development, I prefer being incontrol.
Because the way we take our life back isthrough command.
We take control of our life and we command ourlife.

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We stop allowing ourselves to be blown aroundby every wind that comes in our direction, and
we accept that my life is my responsibility,and I change that in the snap of a finger.
And that takes that doesn't happen bydevelopment and therapy.
That takes place by command and control.
I will take control of my mind.
I will take control of my life.

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Yes.
Great approach.
Just it it is decision.
Yes.
It is decision that you you want to change.
Yes.
And you are changing the way how you seeyourself, your identity, which you take control
over your thoughts, your feelings, and youractions, and you don't let your paradigms
control you anymore.

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Right.
That's right.
That that's exactly right.
Mhmm.
It it's not it's not saying I I am the result.
I am a condition.
It's saying that I am a consequence of mythinking.
And unless I change my thinking, I willcontinue to be that.
This this is the choice that we have, Elena,today is you can change your thinking and get a

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new result, or you can keep thinking how you'rethinking right now and get the same result.
There's no third option.
There's no that there is not a third option,which is continue to operate the same way and
get a different result.
That's not an option for us.
Yes.
Totally true.
What you see in your head, you can hold in yourmind.
Yes.
Everything happens twice.

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First, it happens in the mind, and then youcreate it in your life.
So the question here is, what are the mathmaybe some techniques or some, like, yes, some
tips from you to people who want to startcontrolling like, start being aware of their

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thoughts and how to change those thoughts.
Because, again, we are habitual creatures.
Yes.
We our most of our behavior is habitual, andmany people don't even recognize their thoughts
because we have so many thoughts running onautopilot that we are not even aware of them.

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So how really to become aware and change theirthoughts?
Well, the the first thing is the the answers inthe question, Elena, how do you become aware?
You become aware.
You have to become aware of what you're sayingto yourself.
When you when you go into the grocery store andyou say, I can't afford this, or you look at a
nonorganic food versus an organic food and yousay, I'm going to choose the nonorganic food

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because it's cheaper, you're making twostatements.
You're saying, I don't have any money, andyou're saying that my health is not what I
value money more than I value health.
These are two decisions that you've made inthat moment that I've decided that I don't have
any money, and I've decided that what littlemoney I do have is more valuable than my

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health.
Well, guess what's gonna show up in your life?
You're gonna show up with no money and you'regonna show up with poor health.
And down the road, we're gonna go, well, I'mjust a victim, that's a condition, my health is
what it is.
No, you made that choice.
And you've got to be aware when you're ingrocery store, for example, what am I thinking

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and what is that communicating?
What is that communicating to myself?
Look, language that's banned for me that I willnot allow: I'm tired, I'm worn out, I'm
overwhelmed.
Let's look at that, I'm overwhelmed.
Well, what does that mean?

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Overwhelm is a condition, right?
It's like I'm a victim, there's so much goingon.
Well, no, what overwhelm means is I refuse toprioritize, I refuse to do the tasks as they
were before me.
They've all built up, and now I'm dealing withthe consequences of my inactivity.
And instead of saying, I was lazy and I wasineffective in my leadership and decision

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making, which I can affect, I can change, Isay, I'm now a victim of a condition which is
called overwhelm.
There's no such thing as overwhelm there isonly poor decision making or poor resource
allocation.
I'm tired, I'm tired is another one.
Well, again, what does that mean?

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It means that you're making poor decisions.
Are you tired because you're going to bed toolate and not getting enough sleep?
Are you tired because your diet is poor?
Are you tired because you're failing to attackthe task that needs to be attacked at work?
Is that the that's why you're tired?

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But we look at it go, I'm tired because it's acondition.
No, you're tired because you're making poordecisions.
You're tired because you're prioritizing yourhealth.
You're tired because you're not prioritizingthe things you need to prioritize.
And now we've got a choice.
We can either go, I'm for my life and start totake responsibility for my feeling.

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If I feel tired, I don't go, I'm tired.
I go, where am I failing to prioritize in mylife?
What am I neglecting?
If my money's broken, same question, you go, Ihaven't got any money, well, what a
disempowering statement that is.
I'm 50 years old.
If I show up at 50 years old with no money,I've made some very poor life decisions.

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And at that point, I have to look at myself andgo, Cody, you make really bad decisions around
money.
Are you gonna continue to make really baddecisions or are you gonna get some help?
Are you gonna find somebody who makes gooddecisions and have them help you uncover the
bad decisions that you're making and move youin the right direction?

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Or are you just gonna keep saying, I haven'tgot any money, and do nothing about it?
These things and the Here's the main thing,Elena, it's like, this is very difficult, but
if there's anything anyone takes away from thiscall today is nobody's coming to save you.
You truly are on your own.

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And you've got to look at your life and go, Myhealth's not working, I need to take
responsibility.
My mind is not working, I need to takeresponsibility.
I'm overwhelmed, that is my problem, I need tofind a way to do that.
Nobody's gonna help you do that.
Nobody's coming to save you.
And as soon as you realize that, then it'slike, right.

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I've I've I've gotta start takingresponsibility for my own life here.
Yes.
And sometimes people think that like, theythink that, oh, somebody needs to help me.
I couldn't do that.
But, really, it is true what you said.
Nobody's going to say

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No one's coming.
Yeah.
You should really get that power back, yes, andget understanding that you can do that.
You can do.
Yes.
You are strong.
You you are given so much potential in you.
And this is only how you use that potential,how you use your resources.

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And when you get power back and stop dependingon somebody else and tell yourself that I can
do that and see what you can start changing,what new habits you can create, which will
replace those in productive habits which youhave when you start looking at your time, how

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you use your time, the more effectively,productively based on the goal which you want
to achieve.
Yes.
And really get that, power back, control backon you.
Because, like, now most people live, like, inthe car sitting in the back seat and allowing

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those habits and those subconscious drivingthem where where it wants.
Yes.
And they just sit in in that car and just seewhat results they get.
But if you get your driver seat back, it takesdecision.
You have to see where you are driving.
Yes.

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Well, you have to make choices.
So it is not living unconscious anymore.
That that's exactly right.
I mean, I'll give you I'll give you the perfectexample.
Somebody I bumped into somebody the other daythat I haven't seen for a while, and they said,
how's business, Cody?
And I said, business is always the answer tothat question is business is always good
because if it gets to the point to where it'snot looking good, I'm gonna take action.

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I am not gonna let it get to the point where itis not good.
I'm not gonna let it get to that point.
I've got my eyes on the road, and as soon asthings start to look like they're slipping a
little bit, I'm gonna get control and I'm gonnatake action.
And the same should be true for every aspect ofyour life.
I shouldn't have to ask you, how's your health?
Your health should be great because you're notgonna let it get bad.

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How's your finances?
Your finances are great because as soon as theystart to look like there's a fracture or a
crack in them, you're gonna take action.
And it's never gonna be allowed to get to thepoint that they're bad.
How's your relationship?
How's your marriage?
The answer to that question should bespectacular.
And it's not because I'm amazing, it's becauseif it starts to slip, I'm going to take action.

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You have to constantly be The natural state oflife, Elena, is decay.
You look at anything.
You look at your garden.
Your garden is a highly fertile place, and ithas the ability to produce roses and beautiful
flowers and be in an amazing place that youwant to hang out and spend time in, or if you

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just leave it to itself, it will turn I'm inAustralia, so it'll turn into a playground for
snakes and spiders and creepy crawlies andeverything you don't want.
Every aspect of your life is the same.
Your marriage, your relationship is a garden,and you will either cultivate it to something
beautiful or it will deteriorate to a snakeinfested rat hole.

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Your finances will grow to something beautiful,or if neglect your finances, they will
deteriorate to chaos.
If you neglect your health, it will deteriorateto chaos.
That is the default.
And this is what people really the decisionthat they need to make and what they need to
understand is your health is not going to getbetter by itself.

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Your money is not going to get better byitself.
You have to make a decision for it to getbetter.
And then you have to enforce that decision.
That's why I say I'm opposed to personaldevelopment because you can't personally
develop your way to success.
You have to enforce it.
You don't develop a gut and you enforce it.

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You create something that's beautiful, and thenyou refuse to allow anything into it that will
destroy it.
Yes.
Yes.
It is so true.
It's so true.
And awakening call for many people because,really, we don't have faith as people say, oh,

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this is my just faith.
This is what I have.
This is my life.
And in this case, people don't getresponsibility.
They think that it is somebody else decided howtheir life will be.
Yes.
But does not so as you said, the garden.
You can just let it go and you see what willhappen.

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Or you just take it in control and do what youcan and create the picture, create the project,
how you want your garden to look and see whatyou can do for that.
And do conscious take conscious steps andactions.
This is about everything in our life.
You know, and people go, well, Cody, that's alot of work, isn't it?

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And it's like, not really.
Getting cancer is a lot of work.
Getting heart disease is a lot of work.
Being obese is a lot of work.
Your marriage failing and your kids walkingaway from you, your influence over your
children slipping further and further that's alot of work.
A welfare Christmas is a lot of work.
Work is not optional.

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Effort is not optional.
You are required to put in effort.
The question is, are you going to put in thismuch effort and create an outcome that you
desire, or are you going to pay the price lateron when you're fifty kilos overweight, when
your children refuse to talk to you, when yourbank accounts was, you know, zero would be a
good number for your bank account right now.
You sailed past zero years ago.

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You have to put in effort, and there is costinvolved either way.
The challenge and the choice that I give peopleis put the effort in on this side and build
something worth having versus just sitting backand watching Netflix right now, letting your
life deteriorate into chaos, and then dealingwith that once it's in chaos.

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It's a hell of a lot easier to build it intosomething worth having than it is to pull it
out of chaos.
Yes.
So true.
It is always easy to prevent something thanthan take you out of that situation which you
already are.
Yes, Cody.
So true.
Tell us a little bit about your book which youwrote.

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The greatest comeback in history is you.
So it's the it's the truth.
The greatest story in history is you.
The greatest comeback is you.
And that starts with a decision.
You have we we started the interview out bytalking about what drives what's hidden.
And what's driven us up to this point, Elena,is an identity that's hidden.

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It's an identity that's been programmed intous, given to us, taken on by default, whatever.
And that's led us to this point.
But here's we know that now.
There's nobody listening to this interviewtoday that does not understand that anymore.
I think I've made that very clear, right?
So the next question is, Well, what identityare you going to choose?
And that was, you know, we didn't really answerthe question, but you asked, Well, what can

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somebody do about this?
Well, this is the answer.
Step number one is you choose a new identity.
Well, what better identity than of the greatestcomeback in history.
I am the greatest comeback in history.
My story is the greatest comeback in history.
And I'm telling you, it doesn't matter whereyou are in your life right now, how low you've
fallen, how bad you feel, how much chaos isgoing on, you can pull it back faster than you

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could ever imagine.
That's what I'm saying.
This is not personal development.
This is not therapy that takes years and yearsand years.
We start to make decisions that show fruitinstantaneously.
And the book, The Greatest Comeback in Historyand You, is I'm walking you through where these
decisions, helping you understand where thisprogramming has come from.

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Why do you do the things you do even though youdon't wanna do it?
Why do you look at that cake, Elaine, and go,and I don't want this, and then you put it in
your mouth anyway?
Why does the man go, I'm not gonna watch porntoday, and then watch it again tonight?
Why does the person say, I'm never gonna drinkagain, and then within three or four hours,
they're cracking open a beer?
Because there's an operating system, operatingyou, that you did not choose, that you did not

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consent to, that you do not want, and you donot know how to change.
And the first step in changing that isacknowledging that and saying, my life is out
of control.
I am being operated by a system I did notchoose, I did not consent to, and I do not want
to operate me anymore.

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And if that's you, if you're saying that, thenyour first step is to read this book, is to
read this book.
And it's free right now.
I'm even giving it away.
I'm not here pitching it.
Get it free.
And you'll understand exactly why you thinkwhat you think, why you're doing things you
don't want to do, and how to actually changethat, how to reprogram yourself to live a life

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that it's not better or worse, it's just yourlife.
You're not living your life right now.
You're living somebody else's idea of what yourlife should have been, Elena.
Yes.
This is very interesting.
Yes.
That so many people live with identity whichwas not built by them.

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As they it was built when they were infants bytheir parents, teachers, people who go in their
surroundings, who told them who they are.
But those people didn't know even much aboutus.
Yes.
So and if we don't question that, this is howwe live somebody else's life.

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Also, what is in our genes?
We do so many things which our, maybegrandparents or their parents decided.
Yes.
And we inherited through genes some behavior,and we automatically do that.
So it is really important to ask question.
What I want my life to be and who I want to be?

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As as you said, we can build our own identity.
Just decide who you are and decide who you wantto become or how you want to live and write
that script of your new self and read thatscript and start thinking and feeling acting as
that person.
And because we only have in life who we become,not what we want, but who we really are because

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everything matching outside reality, matchingour inside world.
That that's exactly right.
And people go, I wanna I don't feel like I'mfree right now.
I don't feel like I have emotional freedom, orI don't feel like I'm free.
Well, you're not free.
You're a hostage.
You are literally a hostage.
Your your life is being held hostage to theideas and identities that have been put in you,

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and the reason you don't feel free is becauseyou're not free.
You're you're literally living the life of apuppet, And it doesn't have to be that way.
We we we were designed to be free, our spiritto be free, free will, free freedom of choice.

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We we have the freedom potentially as anoperating system to choose what we want, and
that's when you truly have freedom.
And when you understand that you have theability to make choice and you know the
difference between right and wrong, this iswhere your life really starts to go to the next
level.
But until you until you understand that, untilyou start to until you set yourself free from

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the operating system that's in you, you areyou're a hostage with a crown is all you are.
You're saying I'm the I'm I'm the ruler of mylife.
No.
You're just a hostage with a crown.
Yeah.
So true.
So true.
So tell us a little bit how you start changingyour programs.

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Because, again, it's not easy.
It is it is looks simple.
Just start telling yourself that you are a newperson, but it is not easy because these
programs, they are very like, those trees withvery deep roots.
And this is it it takes effort and consistencyto start telling yourself new ideas and start

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impressing them into your subconscious mindthrough repetition.
So you start seeing yourself, and it takes alsotime.
So how you did with your change?
Yes.
Like, when you understand that that is theprogram that you were told that you not
deserve.
And when you under how you started this, howlong it take you to embody that new identity

(31:15):
which you choose?
Takes about half a second.
It's instantaneous.
So the the process that you're describing is anegotiation.
It's a negotiation with yourself.
I'm gonna tell myself, I'm gonna tell myselfover and over again who I want to be, and then
eventually I'll start to believe that.
And that's what the self help industry is Ithink I can, I think I can?

(31:36):
If I tell myself enough times it's true, thenit's true.
And that isn't true at all.
The way that you set yourself free is you haveto speak the truth to yourself.
I'll give you a story.
When I was 35 years old, I went I was veryheavily into the manifestation, law of

(32:04):
attraction, personal development, self help,therapeutic industry, stuff like that.
I was telling I was doing this.
I was telling myself I was successful.
I was healthy.
I'm wealthy.
I was wise.
I was impacting on millions of people's lives.
And the truth is I was flat broke.
I wasn't imp I wasn't very healthy.
I wasn't impactful in any way.
I was flat broke.
And I went to visit my parents one Sundayafternoon.

(32:27):
And as I was leaving, my mother came out andshe handed me $20 and said, Cody, take this $20
because I don't want to not see you again foranother month because you can't afford the gas
money to come back.
And I took the $20 at 35 years old because shewas absolutely right.
She would not see her son again for anotherfour weeks because at 35 years old I was so

(32:51):
incompetent that I couldn't even afford gasmoney to go see my parents, while at the same
time with my mouth telling people I'm wealthy,I'm successful, I'm influential.
The reality was I was on welfare.
I was on government housing.
And it was about an hour drive home, and all Icould say on the way home was, disgusting.
This is disgusting hoodie.

(33:13):
This is disgusting.
And I decided, I made a decision on thatjourney, I will never ever, ever take money in
need again.
This is appalling.
At 35 years old, I should be supporting myparents, not taking gas money from my parents.
And I decided this stops right now, today.
And I went to the welfare office the nextmorning, Elena, and I needed that money and I

(33:38):
said, I wanna cancel all my welfare because Ihad a decision to make.
If you wanna know who you are, the life youlive is the man you are.
And it doesn't matter what words are coming outof my mouth, if I'm taking welfare, if I'm on
welfare, then the truth is I'm a welfarerecipient.
And every time I take that welfare, I'mreinforcing that I'm a welfare recipient.

(33:59):
And I went in there and I said, I'm not awelfare recipient.
I reject that identity.
I refuse it.
Cancel my welfare.
And she goes, Sir, if you cancel this welfarevoluntarily, you'll never get it back.
You permanently exclude yourself from welfare.
And I needed that money.
That was my rent.
That was my food.
And I said, Do it.
I'd rather die and be homeless than be awelfare recipient again.

(34:24):
I tripled my income within three days.
Within three days, I tripled my income.
I made $9,700 the previous year.
Within three days, I'd got a job close to$40,000 By the end of that year, I'd made
$187,000 Within three years, I was making amillion dollars a year.

(34:49):
So I went in a three year period from utterlybroke to making over a million dollars a year.
Why?
Because I rejected that identity, I refused it.
And I didn't just refuse it, I burnt thebridge.
I backed that decision up with serious action.
And that's what it takes.

(35:10):
If you're taking welfare right now, you are awelfare European.
That is you.
And you've gotta look at that, and you say,I've got a choice.
Am I a welfare recipient, or am I a man ofinfluence?
Because men of influence don't receive welfare.
So which am I?
Am I a man of influence, or am I a man thattakes welfare?

(35:31):
I'm a man of influence, then you better startacting like it, Cody.
You better start acting like it, and the firstthing is to get your butt down to the welfare
office and cancel it.
And as soon as I did that, the whole universereordered itself to accommodate my identity was
too big to be held now.
The universe could no longer hold my identity.

(35:52):
It had no choice but to reorder itself toaccommodate me.
Whereas previously, I was reordering myself toaccommodate everything.
Yes.
Very good point here that we have to believe inourselves and also have faith.
When we have the big vision, yes, and and takesteps, make decisions out of our faith, it

(36:20):
also, like, invisible forces, as you said,rearranges.
And we don't even know how it will happen, butwe have to know that this is our identity, and
this is what I'm going to do.
And somehow, the dots will connect it.
Yes.
So we don't even know how it will be, but whenwe look back, we we can see how everything gets

(36:43):
connected.
Yes.
Here's the thing, Elena.
If you I'm sure you have a big vision foryourself.
If you want to achieve a big vision, you gottastart playing big.
You can't play small and have a big outcome,and that's what most people wanna do.
They're they're deluding themselves.
They're lying to themselves.
They're saying, I wanna have a big impact, butI don't wanna take any risk.

(37:04):
I wanna have a big impact, but I wanna playsmall.
And it's like, if you want big results, you'vegotta make big decisions.
And that's why most people won't do it becauseit's painful and it's dangerous and it's scary.
And the only way that you if you're here andyou're small and you wanna get big, you're not

(37:27):
gonna get big and then start making bigdecisions.
You're gonna have to start making big decisionswhile you're small because that's how you get
big.
And here's what, you know, if you want to getbig but you're not willing to make big
decisions, then you're utterly unfit forgreatness.
You're unfit.

(37:48):
If you want to get a day's wages, but you'renot prepared to do a day's work, then you're
not fit for service, you're not fit forpurpose.
And that's very unfortunate to people that youknow, if you want to have everything, you have
to be willing to risk everything.
I work with a client, he's a two time worldchampion boxer.
And I asked him one day, said, Billy, you are Iaspire to be a world champion in my field.

(38:14):
You are literally a world champion.
Two time, you've got the doubt, you areliterally a two time world champion.
What does it take to become a world champion?
And he said, You've got to be willing to diefor it, Cody.
He said, when I get in the ring, I am literallywilling to die.
Literally willing to die.
When I get into the ring for a world titlefight, I will come out of that ring world

(38:36):
champion, or I'll come out dead.
He goes, I'm willing to put my life on the lineto be a world champion.
And that's what it takes, and that is what99.9% of us are not willing to do.
We want to be a world champion in our field,but we're not willing to die for it.
And if you're willing to put a little bit onthe line, you can have a little bit.
If you're willing to put a lot on the line, youcan have a lot more.

(38:58):
But if you wanna be the best, you decide thatyou want it and be willing to give your life
for it.
And that's what most people are just notwilling to do.
It's not that they couldn't achieve it, You canachieve anything you want to.
Your potential is unlimited, as is mine, as isevery other human being.
The question, Elena, is not a potential issue.

(39:19):
The question is, are you willing to pay theprice?
And your results will reflect that, if you arenot where you want to be, simply because you're
not willing to pay the price to get there.
Yeah, so true.
As you said, you have to build the muscles.
Yes.
To to lift that weights, you have to build themuscles.

(39:39):
And the muscles to build muscles, it ispainful.
Yes.
It is painful.
So it will be always scary, and always you willhave that doubt and fear.
So how you are going to do, you will know youwill not know how, and you don't need to know
how.
You just have to focus on first step what youcan do at this time with resources you have.

(40:03):
You'd you'd step into that unknown, and thenthe second door opens.
Then you again step into unknown, the seconddoor
opens.
And
this is the only way.
You you never know how, right, if the goal isreally big.
Because you only know how if you if you'regoing for small things which doesn't have any

(40:24):
growth for you, and then this this is how youknow based on your past.
But if you really want something bigger thanyou don't have yet and not became yet, you have
to really make those bold decision and trustthe universe, god, have faith that somehow in
the future, everything will be unfolded in theright way, but you have to take steps.

(40:47):
You have to take actions.
Well, I live in Australia, like, you know, onthe coast, we've got Sydney and Brisbane, which
are, like, thousand kilometers apart, right?
You can get from Sydney to Brisbane in pitchblack at night with only 20 meters of light.
You only need the next 20 meters of yourjourney to make a thousand kilometer journey
completely safely and successfully.

(41:10):
And that is the operating system of somebodywho's successful.
I give you the next step, you take it.
I give you the next step, you take it.
And it's like, when you're driving at nightwith only 20 meters of light, you only get the
next step as you successfully complete the stepthat you've been given.
And and most people, they will say, I'm willingto do whatever it takes, Cody, but you have to
show me the whole journey up front.

(41:32):
Well, I'm sorry, but you're completely forsuccess if that's if that's your attitude.
If that's the way you look at things, then youwill never have more than 20 meters of light
because you've gotta progress.
And that's scary.
Sometimes, you know, that's what faith is,right?
We have to just assume that the universe is afriendly place, that God is friendly, and that

(41:55):
things are working in my favor, and we justhave to act in faith.
And if you can't act in faith, thenunfortunately, you can't have very much.
That's just the way it is.
Yes.
You have to see that picture in your mind firstand, reinforce that picture by seeing it and

(42:16):
being in that picture and seeing it as reality.
Yes.
Because everything has been created twice.
If you look around us, everything, what we seewas first somebody's idea, and that idea was
reinforced with thinking, projecting, makingmap, creating Then it is how it became
physical.

(42:37):
This is everything how it takes place fromenergy.
Yes.
Energy and matter.
So matter comes from energy, and that energy,initially, you have to generate it with your
thoughts, yes, and get it, manifested in yourphysical reality.
Well, to add add to that, Jeff, very briefly,you're absolutely right.

(43:00):
Every everything that's in existence wascreated twice, once in your mind, once in the
world.
I agree with that.
But how much stuff was only created once?
Most people's universe is only created once intheir mind.
It's not coming out of your thoughts unless youtake actions with your hands, you take action
with your finances, unless you take action withyour body.

(43:22):
You're not gonna lose weight unless you takephysical action with your body.
Happening.
You can't manifest your way to a healthy body.
You you you have to see that healthy body inyour mind, absolutely, but then you have to
back that up with action, physical action.
Yes.
Yes.
So true.
So true.

(43:42):
So yeah.
So let's resume what we discussed today thatthe change starts from your decision.
Yes.
From your decision and understanding that youridentity, which controls now everything you do
and the life you have, was created by somebodyelse.

(44:06):
And now it is time to change it, and you decidewho you want to become and make decisions from
that place, from that identity.
Start thinking, feeling, acting as that personand deny the current results because current
results is just projection of what you didbefore.

(44:26):
So when you start today seeing yourself actingas different person, this is how your results
will be shaped.
And, of course, it takes that boldness andcourage and, really, commitment.
Yes.
Commitment that, as you said, that you burnedthe boat.

(44:46):
Yes.
You said that I'm not that person.
And it takes commitment and bold decisions andactions, and this will will be rewarded.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And and the second step is you've gotta gethelp.
Like, this is we talk about self help.
Well, that's an oxymoron.
If you could help yourself, why haven't youalready?

(45:08):
Why haven't you?
Like, you can't help yourself.
You have to get help.
And whether it's with me, whether it's withyou, whether it's with somebody, it doesn't
matter.
It's like, that's not the point, is we find theway that we get better is we find people with
the results that we're looking for, and we getaround them and we model them.
We model their thinking.

(45:28):
We model their value system.
We model their behavior.
We can't improve in a vacuum.
We can't improve by ourselves.
We're community creatures.
We're designed to operate in a group, andthat's very, very important.
Anybody who thinks that they're going toimprove themselves and change in a vacuum,
you're delusional, and it's not gonna happen,my friend, I'm afraid.

(45:50):
You have to get into an environment aroundpeople that have the results that you're
looking for.
Yes.
Because in many cases, you are not even awareof that identity.
Yes.
You're not aware because you're in it.
I like how, I think, Liz Brown told that youcannot see the picture if like, you cannot see

(46:12):
the frame if you are inside the picture, or youcannot see the label if you are in the bottle.
Yes.
Like, you just cannot because it is how youare, and you need somebody else to tell you you
have this potential, but you just keep yourselfin that box.
You just don't see so many opportunities, andreality is different for you.

(46:36):
Because, yes, reality is different for everyonebecause this is how we'll see the world through
the prism of our programming.
So we just our, like, subconscious just acceptswhat is already known and what it accepts, and
we reject automatically something that doesn'tmatch.
That is why, really, we need somebody who seeus more than what we see for ourselves.

(47:00):
And it's even more that.
I mean, it's it's one thing to to have somebodypoint out your potential, but it's like you
also have to know how to take advantage ofthose opportunities.
You have the potential to be a world classproperty investor.
If you don't understand finance, if you don'tunderstand interest rates, leverage, equity, if
you don't understand these things and you don'tknow how to access those opportunities, it

(47:22):
doesn't matter how much potential you've got.
I can tell you all day long, you've got thepotential to be a world class investor, but you
also have to know how to access.
And that's what we need to get around, peoplethat understand that.
What area of your life?
If you want to lose weight, then it's one thingto say you have the potential to lose weight.

(47:42):
You need skills.
You need to understand how to read labels.
You need to understand how nutrition works.
It's not enough to improve your self image orbelieve in yourself.
That's a very big part of it.
And and the skills are useless without that.
But once you have that self image, you alsohave to be around people that know how to

(48:03):
instruct you and how to access thoseopportunities.
Yes.
Everything starts with awareness, and then youhave to take action.
And, of course, you have to learn exact actionsbecause there can be also different ways.
You can take actions for twenty years and notget anywhere, or you see with p get with people

(48:26):
who can just literally take your hand and justtell you, make this step.
Make this step.
Make this step.
And it will shorten your twenty years maybe inone year or in two years.
Exactly.
Well, I tell people I can give you more clarityin ten year ten minutes than you can get in ten
years by yourself.
I'll I'll I'll take ten years off your learningcurve.

(48:47):
I'll give you ten years of information in in inten minutes.
Because of of the ten years that you've gonethrough, almost all of it is useless
information.
And if you don't, like, if you're questioningthat, look at your results.
Look at your results.
People go, well, you know, I don't I don'tthink that's true, Cody.
Well, look at your finances.
Ten years of trying to develop your finances,you're still broke.

(49:12):
You've added ten years of information.
There's no useful information in that.
And in most circumstances, a ten minute, areally pinpoint laser focused ten minute
conversation will give you more benefit in tenminutes than you've derived from the last ten
years in every aspect of your life.

(49:35):
Yeah.
So powerful.
So powerful, Claudia.
Yes.
So I am sure that people who listen us, theywould love to contact you and, of course, read
your book.
And I I will read your book definitely and willrecommend it to my community.
Thank
you.
So so thank you so much.
It was so powerful conversation and reallyawakening.

(49:57):
I'm sure that so many people will just feel,oh, like, yes, now I woke up.
Now I have to do something different.
Now you gotta do something.
Now you're awake.
Something about it.
You've you've got your next 20 meters.
Read the book.
It's free.
If you don't like it, throw it away.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we will have the link under thisepisode so you can get the link, see what are

(50:23):
your 20 meters are, and start taking actions.
Yes.
Start act taking actions because your life canbe very different when you change.
Yes.
We're from within everything starts from withinus, and that is what is decision.
Yes.
Irrevocable committed decision that you aregoing to have what you want to have and become

(50:45):
who you want to become.
Great job, sister.
Amen.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Cody.
And is it anything that maybe one advice whichyou will have before we wrap up this episode
for our audience?
Raise your standards.
Raise your standards.
Decide that you're not gonna live like thisanymore.

(51:08):
And I'm not judging you.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong, but,like, decide that you know what you want.
Make a decision to go get it.
Reject what you have in your life right now andsay, no.
I'm not putting up with that anymore.
Like, there's more for life, and I'm gonna goget it.
Raise your standards.
That's my advice.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
Standards is everything.
Again, standards is part of your identity.

(51:31):
What you don't accept, what you don't tolerateanymore.
And this is how everything start to change.
Correct.
Yes.
Thank you so much for it.
It was great conversation.
I really enjoyed, and I'm sure people whowatch, they can watch a few times because every
time you can find something new.
Yeah.

(51:52):
I really hope
You've been very gracious.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, and I hope to see you againfor our future episodes.
Happy to.
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