February 24, 2025 • 48 mins
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When the ghost of Caesar haunts the Palantine Hill to scare off Matt Trakker’s workers, there is only one thing to do:
Time to call in Scooby Doo.
Just kidding, it turns out that V.E.N.O.M. is on the hunt for the lost sword of CAESAR, which… makes you invincible and is responsible for the rise and fall of Rome as an empire? (We don’t remember that from Latin class… but I suppose it is a great way to ignore the Roman Republic’s systemic issues of class warfare and military campaigns.)
From butchering Roman history to equating Caesar’s sword to the Ark of the Covenant to finally cruelly embarrassing Miles Mayhem, this latest episode of M.A.S.K. has it all!
Join Adam Moore and PJ McNerney for more fun on the Mobile Armored Podcast Show!!!
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Adam (00:12):
Welcome to the Mobile Armored Podcast Show, the
podcast that transforms into anIndiana Jones scale desecration
of ruins.
My name is Adam Moore, alongsidemy co host and best friend PJ
McNerney, who came up with Thattransformation line.
PJ (00:28):
That's my one contribution to this episode at this point in
time.
So I want to call out that.
I mean, Adam does an amazing jobof coming up with all these
transformations each and everytime.
And so this, this was my likeone, like, you know, bone that
I'm throwing in to help out.
You asked how I'm doing.
I'm very angry.
This, this particular episodeincenses me to no end.
(00:52):
So
Adam (00:54):
yeah.
I'm looking forward to our pandapoop conversation at the end of
the episode, you're angry.
I'm frustrated.
With it on a lot of levels buthere we are.
So it's episode 33 Caesar'ssword.
Venom agent Sly racks poses asthe ghost of Julius Caesar to
scare off a team ofarcheologists.
Who have uncovered Caesar'ssword of victory.
(01:16):
Now you and I took four years ofLatin in high school
PJ (01:19):
did,
Adam (01:19):
I don't remember Caesar's sort of victory being written
about in the Gallic wars oranything like that.
PJ (01:24):
Yeah, Debello Gallico doesn't mention it.
Believe it or not, There is asword, but we're going to, we're
going to talk a lot about this.
and I'm very, upset at ourfavorite history teacher in the
show, not in real life, I
Adam (01:37):
Right.
PJ (01:38):
This is also a lie.
Like, these archaeologists, ifthey're archaeologists at all,
have not, in fact, discoveredshit, okay?
Adam (01:46):
Yeah.
PJ (01:47):
this tagline is just, like, it's a lie, like, right off the
bat.
Adam (01:52):
Well, yeah, there is more like a professor and
construction workers, it seems.
All right, so we open onThunderhawk going wildly over
the speed limit in Rome withBruce, Scott, and T Bob in the
car there.
and notably Scott and T Bob arenot wearing seatbelts.
PJ (02:11):
I just like this idea of Matt, are garbage, you're in a
foreign country, don't worry, noone's going to enforce it.
Adam (02:18):
What are you a wimp?
Shut up, kid.
Though, I, and I did note, Iwent back and I noted that, that
Matt is in fact wearing aseatbelt.
PJ (02:25):
He
Adam (02:25):
So
PJ (02:26):
He
Adam (02:27):
he protects himself.
parents in the seventies and theeighties seatbelts.
What are you talking about?
You're in the back seat.
You're going to be fine.
PJ (02:33):
To be fair, Matt knows that at any point in time, his gull
wing doors might open and he'lltry to do a barrel roll.
So like, I actually think Mattneeds a seatbelt on at all
times.
Adam (02:45):
Yeah, true.
PJ (02:46):
Lest, lest he just fall out.
Adam (02:48):
Yeah.
But you're in the back seat.
You can also fall right up thosegullwing doors too.
So.
I'm going to nominate this for aFather of the Year moment, right
off the bat,
PJ (02:55):
yes, implies he's caring.
Adam (02:58):
So they're driving, they drive past the Colosseum and T
Bob says, they're gonna have tofix it up if they ever expect to
have a Major League franchise.
PJ (03:07):
I love how T Bob is, has succumbed to the tracker
tendency to think about money.
how do we commercialize thisthing, this ruined building?
It's useless just being apriceless artifact.
Adam (03:20):
Meanwhile, up on the Palatine Hill, some
stereotypical Italianconstruction workers are using a
crane to lift ancient ruins.
So I have many things I wouldlike to To pause on here.
PJ (03:34):
Yeah,
Adam (03:35):
First, we have a BuddyHawks nomination for the
very Mario Luigi accents we'rehearing here.
Hey, lift it up! Be careful!
PJ (03:44):
it's, it's pretty egregious.
And, you know, we've seen thisproblem before many, many times,
but like, it's on full displayhere.
Adam (03:53):
And then secondly, they're using a construction crane,
which might not be the best toolfor moving delicate ruins.
PJ (03:59):
I loved it.
I just, I was like, you knowwhat?
Fuck it.
Adam (04:03):
But here's the third thing is like, I'm pretty sure the
Palatine Hill has beenthoroughly excavated.
Like what more could theypossibly find?
PJ (04:10):
don't know if they're trying to find anything and I'm going
to reserve the right to recallthis moment later on the
episode, because I think it tiesto what are Matt's interests in
this area.
Adam (04:21):
Okay.
Noted.
Well, suddenly, some smoke comesout of a hole in the ground, and
the ghost of Julius Caesar, whosounds a lot like Sly Rax,
appears, and he says, Plebeians,the Palatine Hill is my
arresting place.
Like trying to do an Italianaccent like do you think Julius
(04:41):
Caesar had actually I don't knowWe don't know what they sounded
like, hey
PJ (04:46):
wouldn't be
Adam (04:46):
it's a my Well, there's that too
PJ (04:49):
I mean, he would be speaking in ancient Latin.
the closest that we have in themodern day would be the Romanian
people.
But I do not think he would belike emphasizing his words in
the Mario and Luigi style
Adam (05:06):
Right,
PJ (05:07):
accent we hear here.
Adam (05:08):
so certainly a Buddy Hawks nomination for Slyrax here
PJ (05:12):
100 percent on this one.
He also declares, when they askhim, who are you?
He's like, the most powerfulmilitary general of the ages,
Julius Caesar.
and I was like, okay, Julius wasreally impressive.
I don't want to take
Adam (05:25):
hmm.
PJ (05:26):
A few other folks might take issue with this, like
Adam (05:28):
Mm hmm Mm
PJ (05:30):
Hannibal Barca and then I cheated on this one.
I said Genghis Khan and his kidSubodai, but that came much
later on, so.
Adam (05:38):
agreed.
A bit of hyperbole.
I mean, he might Be the mostpowerful military general of the
ages.
If he has the power that'sdisplayed next, which is that
he, he fires a laser from hisfinger and breaks the winch on
the crane.
And he says, if you refuse toobey me, you will suffer my
wrath.
PJ (05:56):
Which destroys the ruin.
They were, they had this bigpillar that they were picking up
Adam (06:01):
Right.
PJ (06:02):
cracks on the ground.
It was like.
right.
Wanton destruction.
Thanks a lot, asshole.
Adam (06:08):
Yeah.
Well, also he says this is hisresting place.
So it's like, you're desecratingyour own resting place.
Oh,
PJ (06:14):
This is what you get if you desecrate my resting place, but
you just did it.
Shut up.
Adam (06:19):
Well we cut to Matt and Bruce.
And they are investigating theaftermath with a professor.
Who gets a solid Buddy Hawksnomination for his Italian
accent as well.
PJ (06:30):
I want to point out we're about three minutes in.
We've got like four to fivesolid Buddy Hawks right off the
bat.
Adam (06:37):
I know, in recent episodes.
We've kind of ducted a littlebit here and there.
And here we are in Italy wherethey don't necessarily have to
lean into it all that much.
And yet like left and right,we're getting Buddy Hawks
nominations.
It's crazy.
PJ (06:49):
were saving.
They were saving it up.
Adam (06:51):
They were, they were.
Well, Scott is there, of course,and he discovers a gold coin on
the ground, and he reads someLatin, but I couldn't make out
what he was saying.
What did you get?
PJ (07:03):
So I had to listen to this a few times.
it's weird.
Cause I said, what he said is E.
And the best I could come upwith it means from the rain and
snow I've never heard this onany Roman coin.
It's possible the, theymispronounced it or the Latin
was just janky.
They just put some shit down andit happens to match up with
(07:25):
this.
Adam (07:25):
Well, unfortunately, this this coin turns out to be
bronze.
And Scott is, like, super bummedout.
Like, it's just bronze.
It's like, dude, it's an ancientcoin you just found.
How cool is that?
It's worthless.
PJ (07:36):
the professor shits on it immediately because it's like,
oh, yeah, they find them allover the place here.
It's like, whatever,
Adam (07:42):
well, but can we talk about the fact that Matt is
almost certainly funding thisarcheological dig because that's
his MO.
So, is he trying to do here?
PJ (07:53):
Well, I mean, he gets carte blanche access, so I kind of
have to figure that he isfunding it.
I think they're putting up a newmall.
Honestly, and so I think thereason they're moving the ruins
is to develop the spacecommercially, because why would
you move a giant pillar likethat?
Like, you know, it's like, hey,you need to study it and do all
(08:15):
sorts of things rather thanrisk.
It's destruction.
So maybe it's a theme park.
I don't know, but it's
Adam (08:20):
No, I think you're right.
I think it's an outlet mall.
I think it's Palatine Hillsoutlet that they're putting up.
Come to Palatine Hills.
a tracker real estate property.
Well, Matt and Bruce, they usethe mask computer to analyze the
hook from the crane and thecomputer says evidence of
particle beam laser underdevelopment by venom.
And I just kind of got a littleconfused here.
(08:41):
Cause don't they already haveparticle beams?
Cause I got a science cornerhere to help me out.
PJ (08:46):
Let's kind of suss this out a bit.
It is a bizarre combination.
Let's start with what is aparticle beam?
Okay.
a particle beam is somethingthat accelerates a particle,
which could be like atomic orsubatomic.
Too high speeds to smash intosomething.
So,
Adam (09:04):
Mm hmm.
PJ (09:04):
you know, you could think of like any particle accelerator.
that's, you know, like CERN orsomething like that is a
particle beam.
So you're whipping around likeions or atoms, or even like
electrons or And you're firingthem in a given direction.
And you're like, they're gettingaccelerated to near light
speeds.
So when they hit something, it'sa lot of energy you're
(09:25):
dispersing.
the military been trying to playwith this for a while, and if
they've got it, it's underwraps.
It's probably on those NewJersey drones.
but what is a laser then?
So again, lasers, lightamplification through stimulated
emission of radiation, right?
So you're taking these coherentphotons, which means they're all
the same wavelength.
you're just firing him in agiven direction.
(09:45):
So if you want to get reallypedantic about it, lasers light
acts as both particle and waves.
So you can consider a laser tobe kind of a type of a particle
beam.
So calling something a particlebeam laser is kind of redundant.
here's the thing, if it's just alaser, so be it, they've come up
with something, and it's justlike, whatever.
If it is a particle beam,however, Sly is getting exposed
(10:06):
to amazingly dangerous levels ofEM radiation.
So, I hope he has put his spermin a bank ahead of time, because
that is no bueno, I'll tell youthat much.
Adam (10:17):
Oh, sly, just adding insult to injury in terms of the
radiation contamination of allthese people.
But what's interesting, too, islike the particle beam doesn't
necessarily even like pay off.
Later in the episode.
It's just that's theirconnection to Venom and it's
real real but it gives Matt theauthorization he needs to Go to
(10:39):
war in a foreign country And soin comes the agent selection
scene first up is Gloria Bakerblack belt in kung fu champion
race driver team hottie andMatt's wife and apparently a
Background in archeology,according to the computer.
Is she Lara Croft?
PJ (10:58):
maybe.
I mean, I guess, maybe LauraCroft was based on Gloria.
Adam (11:04):
well, she gets the call.
She's in the dojo and she dropsa female opponent onto the
ground without mercy and thenruns off.
PJ (11:12):
So I do want to point out, she actually, the scene involves
her first dropping the female
Adam (11:17):
That's true.
PJ (11:18):
Prior to the alarm going off, so she
Adam (11:20):
That's true.
PJ (11:21):
basically just out of course,
Adam (11:24):
Right.
PJ (11:24):
the emergency happened, she basically looks like she trips
the opponent again, and then shetakes off, like, so it's a real
fuck you moment at that point intime.
Adam (11:34):
Absolutely.
Second on the team is HondoMcClain.
And the computer says he's ahigh school history teacher with
expertise in ancient Rome.
We'll see how that goes.
So he's walking up the stairs inschool and he's giving these two
kids like some serious side eye.
It's very bizarre.
But then he gets the call and hecomes sliding down the banister
(11:57):
and he runs away.
PJ (11:58):
The expression from these kids is amazing.
They're so blown away by thismove.
I thought they were in aSkittles commercial because it's
that level of like,
Adam (12:10):
Whoa, Taste the Rainbow! Well, I'm starting to think that
maybe Hondo suspected these kidsof being totally stoned.
Like, as he's walking up thestairs and he's looking at them.
He's like sniffing.
He's like, wait a minute.
What's this that I smell becausethey are so stunned by him
sliding down the banister andrunning the way they're like,
(12:33):
Whoa,
PJ (12:34):
you cracked it, man.
This is Spicoli all the way.
Adam (12:38):
a hundred percent.
Well, the third member of ourteam is Bruce Sato preselected.
And I said, phew, like, thankgoodness.
Because that would have beenanother awkward conversation.
PJ (12:48):
Do you feel like Bruce would have been a little hurt the
computer didn't describe his uselike he did the others, other
than you happen to be there
Adam (12:57):
Well, look.
PJ (12:58):
it?
Adam (12:59):
In the past, as we know, the computer has not selected
the person who was alreadypresent.
So, at least he got, at least hegot that.
PJ (13:08):
Good
Adam (13:09):
let's do a check on the flight time
PJ (13:11):
So for Gloria and Hondo to get to Denver it's about 10 and
a half hours direct.
So, they'll have some time tokill in Rome.
Adam (13:18):
indeed.
Well, meanwhile We catch up withVenom and they are shacked up in
some underground tunnels slashruins beneath Rome Rax scares
Cliff with his Caesar's ghostcostume and he says you really
are dumb To which Cliffresponds.
Don't call me dumb and Rax sayssorry numbskull and Cliff says
(13:38):
that's better
PJ (13:41):
I really feel like we're getting to the point like, if we
didn't have so many awardsalready, I'd want to keep track
of how much shit Cliff takesit's a lot all the time
Adam (13:49):
it is.
It's a lot by the characters.
It's a lot by the writers aswell and dumping on him
PJ (13:54):
Did you notice Sly's not wearing glasses?
Like he looks alert he's off ofthe ganja you know, he's getting
back to his new year'sresolution.
Adam (14:01):
So Rax, by the way, he's really proud of himself and this
new laser that he has.
But Vanessa says, stop takingall the credit.
Because his ghost act wouldn'thave succeeded without her smoke
bombs.
And then, she throws one of themat Rax.
And the breeze emitted causeshis toga to lift up.
Exposing feminine uh, Like, Whatthe heck is going on here?
(14:23):
Like it's not even reallyappropriate for kids.
PJ (14:25):
yeah, we get treated to are several seconds of a closeup of
Sly's crotch.
there's like, there's no twoways about it.
Like, you know, they, they makesure they zoom in right away and
then continue it on afterwards.
Adam (14:39):
I know, it's bizarre.
PJ (14:40):
And I'd like to point out this.
So there is no visible smokehere.
This
Adam (14:44):
Right.
PJ (14:45):
bomb.
This is a Marilyn Monroe subwayair vent bomb because that is
the effect it has caused.
Adam (14:53):
That's exactly, no, that's exactly what it does.
And it's, It has no purposehere.
The previous time it was in theshow he was being chased, was it
by the pandas?
And his pants got ripped and itshowed like his little boxers
shorts with hearts on them.
I think I'm rememberingcorrectly.
and this episode definitelygives the panda one to run for
its money.
So, Maybe it's the same writerand the writer just loves
showing Sly Rax's underwear.
(15:13):
And I think that's an issue thatwriter Needs to deal with with a
therapist, right?
PJ (15:19):
it because the last time we got like a brief shot lasting
maybe a couple seconds of Sly'sheart underwear, this one, we
get a zoom in and then wecontinue it like at a wide shot
of making sure, you know, thisis his underwear.
Adam (15:35):
but not to belabor this point, but do they not know how
to animate underwear because ormaybe Sly just wears really
really blousey boxer shortsbecause They're waving in the
wind like it's a skirt
PJ (15:48):
Okay.
Actually, I'll, I'll back theanimators on this one.
Cause like they, they get thescript and they're going to call
up and say, wait, you, want usto animate this guy's underwear?
Like, we don't, we don't knowhow to do that because that's
not what you do in a children'sshow.
No, no.
You have to animate theunderwear.
Are you sure?
Do it or you're fucking fired.
Like, I feel like that's, that'sthe, so I'll, I'll buy the fact
(16:10):
this is badly animated becausethis is not something you
typically do in a kid's show.
Adam (16:14):
Inappropriate across the board.
Well Miles it turns out has aplan for Venom to become
invincible He says, and all Ihave to do is follow this map.
And I just want to pause hereand say, like, okay, Miles, Have
any of your other quote unquotemaps that lead to Venom's
invincibility?
ever paid off.
They haven't gone very well sofar.
PJ (16:36):
so invincibility, no, they nearly did find that.
I mean, they did technicallyfind the Nazi gold a few
episodes ago.
They didn't get to keep it nevermade them invincible.
they tend to find the stuff andjust lose it.
but.
Prosecution reserves the rightto return to this moment to the
sadness of Miles Mayhem, thisepisode, okay?
(16:57):
you're right there is a problemthat we're going to encounter
here with regards to Miles plan.
Adam (17:02):
Well, meanwhile, and T Bob basically orphaned as usual.
They're eating at a a cafe.
Scott gets spaghetti andmeatballs.
And a large pizza.
This kid's starving.
no one is feeding him.
Boy.
And then the waitress says, Andfor you, T Bubbino, my extra
(17:22):
special olive oil, which he thenuses to lubricate his arm, which
I find to be gross.
just a couple things here.
One, Why does this waitress knowScott and T Bob so well?
And then also two, a father ofthe year moment, because where
the heck is Matt?
PJ (17:38):
I think the answer to both questions we know is Matt's left
Scott and T Bob here very often.
I'll say that we don't havequite enough evidence to say
that Matt's had a dalliance withthe waitress, but at the very
least, like, Scott and T Bobcome here a lot, very lonely.
And this waitress sees that.
Adam (17:56):
well good, at least there's someone who's feeling
Scott's pain here.
Scott tells T Bob that he wantsto go to the Palatine Hill, but
T Bob reminds him that Matt madehim promise not to go looking
for bronze coins.
And so that allows Scott to finda loophole, because he's looking
for gold coins.
He wants to run off and t bobbis like, what about the food?
So cool that t Bobb doesn't wantto waste food.
(18:18):
But Scott's answer to that is todump all the food into like a
trash receptacle inside of tBobb, which is also very gross.
PJ (18:27):
The last time we've seen that, wasn't there like some
kind of animal that was likebeing kept warm inside of T Bob.
Adam (18:34):
it was a baby.
Something that was being keptwarm inside of Tbo
PJ (18:37):
Let me ask you a question.
Has
Adam (18:38):
Baby Panda.
It might have been the Panda BaBaby Panda.
PJ (18:41):
panda.
Adam (18:42):
Yep.
PJ (18:42):
was a baby panda, you're right.
Has Scott cleaned the receptaclesince then?
Adam (18:47):
No,
PJ (18:48):
Okay.
Adam (18:49):
no,
PJ (18:49):
to be
Adam (18:50):
no.
PJ (18:50):
there's very old panda poo inside of T Bob that now is in
the same place where the foodis.
Adam (18:57):
yum.
Well there's some cool stuffhere actually, not so much the
Skaad being abandoned again.
But um, Thunderhawk takes offinto the air to intercept the
Masked Jet, and we see it'sbeing flown by Gloria and Hondo.
So I kind of liked that moment.
PJ (19:10):
did too.
I like that.
It was a very cool, like, Hey,we're going to rendezvous in the
sky.
it's, know, implied, but it'slike both Gloria and Hondo
aren't just sort of bad assdrivers.
They're also like capable pilotsas well.
Adam (19:23):
Yeah, let's add that to the list of things that Gloria
can do.
PJ (19:25):
Yes.
Adam (19:26):
she's, she's not Lara Croft, she's like James Bond.
Like, she can do
PJ (19:31):
is.
Adam (19:32):
She should be the star of the show.
But I digress.
Matt asks them if they've everheard of Caesar's sword.
Now, Hondo, remember, picked forhis knowledge of ancient Roman
history, says, sure.
When Caesar possessed the sword,Rome became a mighty empire.
But when it was taken from him,he fell, and so did Rome.
Whoa,
PJ (19:52):
We come to the heart of my anger for this episode, Hondo, I
know the writers made you saythat, so it's hard for me to
blame you.
I'm still very disappointed inyou this is like someone just
decided, oh, let's just inventthis history.
Even though like we're going tobe actively harming kids by
telling them a lie.
Adam (20:13):
right.
PJ (20:14):
is shit that would actually be on history tests.
And I could
Adam (20:17):
Yeah.
PJ (20:18):
some poor third grader, like, saying, No! He had a magic
sword!
Adam (20:22):
you're right, this is not some obscure history or
mythology from a part of theworld that the, that Western
kids wouldn't know much about.
Right, this is Roman history.
This is the Roman Empire, youknow, it's pretty well known
PJ (20:39):
yeah.
And we'll get into the detailsin a second.
There's
Adam (20:42):
Yeah.
PJ (20:43):
you if you wanted to do this kind of episode, because
actually G.
I.
Joe did it, but they actuallydid it the right way.
Adam (20:50):
Mm hmm.
PJ (20:51):
is change it from Caesar's sword to Excalibur.
Adam (20:53):
you go.
PJ (20:54):
then you get to kind of drive a bus through whatever
mythology you want to at thatpoint in time, but anyway, the
writers have somehow combinedthe Ark of the Covenant from
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Adam (21:04):
Right,
The Bible speaks of the Arkleveling mountains and laying
waste to entire regions.
An army which carries the Arkbefore it is invincible.
You
PJ (21:18):
let's get to the reality of it Caesar did have a sword and I
didn't know this because it'snot important But it was called
Crocea Mors, which stands foryellow death.
from everything I've been ableto tell, cause he fought in, it
wasn't just an armchairgenerally, he just, he got in
the mix with it.
So it was a Gladius, which is atype of Roman sword.
(21:40):
So, I mean, there's broadswords, there's Katanas, there's
Claymores, you know, Gladius isa type of sword.
and supposedly the swordactually was lost when he was
fighting a Britannic Prince, hisname Neneus.
When the sword got stuck in theguy's shield.
Now Neneus was a badass, causehe was mortally wounded by this,
but he's still like Survive for15 days, took the sword and
(22:02):
started killing Romans with it,but he was buried with the sword
as a mark of honor and to besure Julius, even after losing
the sword, did pretty fine.
He returned to Rome, becamedictator and he was.
It's fine until he wasassassinated and, it's a little
hard to suss out.
He still was an amazing generalafter that.
More importantly, this is apoint that I feel like gets lost
(22:24):
all the time, Julius didn'treally create the empire he was
at the tail end of the Republic.
if you really look at it becauseit's an interesting period of
history where there were thesepatriarchy like the oligarchy
that was there and that was likekind of this like patrician
state that was developing andthis kind of idea of a dictator
was almost like a lesser evil.
(22:45):
and there's some sort of thoughtthat he might have been trying
to reform Rome.
he did not create the Empire.
But his great grand or his grandnephew, Augustus, certainly
fucking did.
Adam (22:55):
Right.
PJ (22:56):
and to be sure, the Empire did not die with Julius.
It lasted for almost 000 yearsuntil the last vestiges of the
Holy Roman Empire died out.
So this is an amount ofbullshit.
That's incredible.
Adam (23:09):
So just restating it, when Caesar possessed the sword, Rome
became a mighty empire.
When it was taken from him, hefell, and so did Rome.
So
PJ (23:19):
no.
Okay.
No.
He was assassinated by membersof the Senate because they were
afraid he was becoming toopowerful.
Adam (23:27):
Thank you for unpacking that and proving that it's all a
bunch of hogwash.
Bruce reveals that a map wasstolen from a private
collection, and they think thatVenom stole it, and if they find
the sword, Mayhem will, and I,this is in quotes, Mayhem will
feel.
He has become invincible.
And that's what I heard.
(23:48):
What did you hear?
Because if this is all aboutstopping miles, because he will
feel he's become invincible, I'mchecking out right now.
PJ (23:58):
hate to confirm it for you, but yes, they're concerned with
Miles's feelings right now.
Okay.
They, and I was like, doesn't healready feel like a
megalomaniac?
and again, I want to of sum thisup as we go forward.
We're afraid that an old man isgoing to feel invincible when he
holds a sword.
(24:18):
And that's why we're going to dowhat we're about to do.
Adam (24:21):
I just love that.
I'm like, Miles is going to feelinvincible.
Form Mobile Armored StrikeCommand.
We will not let this man feelthat way.
Well, if this turns out to beauthentic, Hondo reveals that
there's a kid in his historyclass whose grade will have to
be changed from an F to an A.
So, not only is Hondo Historyinformation completely wrong,
(24:44):
but his grades are totallyarbitrary.
PJ (24:47):
So I played this one out in my head, and I love the idea
that some kid has submitted areport around Caesar's sword
after watching Raiders of theLost Ark.
And like, Hondo, and he rightlythinks this is bullshit, so he
gave him the right grade of anF,
Adam (25:04):
right.
PJ (25:05):
Hondo's gonna have to go back to that kid and be like I
got some new info.
Huh?
Adam (25:09):
Well, but how is he going to reveal this info to the kid?
So, I got some new info while Iwas off with my paramilitary
organization that's my sidehustle Well, oh boy.
Meanwhile, Scott is digging andmoving stones around and he
finds a potential tunnel T bobtumbles down some column he's
(25:30):
sitting atop which causes allthe stones that scott has moved
around to collapse And surprise,surprise, Scott and T Bob go
falling to their doom.
PJ (25:42):
Okay, a few things.
I want to remind folks we did acomputation on T Bob's weight
and we think it's somewhere onthe order of pounds.
Adam (25:51):
Right,
PJ (25:51):
So, note that he just slammed into Scott.
And were there no guards ortourist guides just to say you
can't play on those ruins?
Adam (26:01):
Well, there might have been, but he's Matt's kid.
So they just step aside and lethim in.
PJ (26:06):
good point.
Adam (26:07):
I gotta ask you though, with Scott and T Bob falling to
their doom, What's going tohappen?
PJ (26:12):
I don't know! I don't know! Oh,
Adam (26:15):
We'll find out after these messages
Hold on.
There's a battle we have to tendto.
Be right back.
We got them.
Now back to the show.
we're back when we left you scott and t bob were as
usual falling to their doom Butthis time i'm, sorry to say
Scott hits the bottom.
He's dead And Matt will never bethe same.
(26:37):
Just kidding.
Before they hit the ground, TBob grabs onto a root that's
sticking out, and Scott grabshold.
Once on the ground, Scottdiscovers another bronze coin.
And he's, again, super notthrilled about finding ancient
artifacts.
PJ (26:51):
So, certainly a Slyrax for, for this, this whole, like,
sequence, basically, like, causehe should be dead.
Adam (26:58):
Yeah.
Also, Scott is pretty nonchalantabout almost dying.
PJ (27:02):
He, he, that
Adam (27:03):
he let
PJ (27:05):
It's so passé at this point in time, man!
Adam (27:07):
Yeah.
Well, Teavop makes a joke abouthow some of his best friends are
bronze.
Any guesses as to what he'sreferring to?
PJ (27:14):
I mean, I had no idea.
I mean, other than I was like, Ilooked up like, what are bronze
robots?
Adam (27:20):
Mm hmm.
PJ (27:21):
it'd be like, Oh, maybe from Metropolis or something like
that.
But no, turns out there's thisthing called, it's an ancient
myth, Talos, the mythical bronzerobot of Crete.
Which was this magical robotthat was gifted from Hephaestus
to King Minos of Crete, had twojobs, to supervise the laws, and
(27:41):
apparently to fly over Cretethree times a day to watch for
invaders, and what's great isthat if he saw ships, he would
throw rocks at the ships, but ifhe saw invaders or enemies on
the land itself, He would dothis flame on thing where he
would heat up his body and thengrab the guy and just basically
(28:03):
burn him against his chest ispretty insane.
Adam (28:07):
doesn't doesn't kill them he just leaves them very badly
burned.
PJ (28:10):
Very badly burned.
And so if this is like, again,this is the only reference to a
bronze robot I could think of,which I found to be a Roy Batty
moment for Mr.
T.
Bob here.
Adam (28:20):
Oh Yeah, for sure.
That's definitely a tip of thehat to his future plan Well, it
turns out that Scott and T Bobare in the catacombs under Rome.
T Bob starts leaving a trail ofpepperoni behind them so they
don't get lost.
But, of course, a cat with verystrange coloring starts eating
the pepperoni.
PJ (28:37):
I never thought this plan was good.
I don't see why he did.
His catacombs contain rats.
Adam (28:43):
No, it's,
PJ (28:44):
returning to where you fell in isn't going to help you get
back out.
Like, I
Adam (28:49):
Totally.
They don't even really needthat.
I mean, it's a setup forsomething really dumb that
happens near the end of theepisode.
Well, meanwhile, Venom is in thecatacombs.
They still haven't found thesword yet.
So Miles decides to take Cliffand Vanessa with him while he
orders Sly To go and check outanother catacomb on his own and
(29:10):
so I actually complains aboutthis and I'm just wondering a
slide being punished forsomething.
PJ (29:15):
didn't know it's weird because like.
Miles has this expectation ofbeing able to find an ancient
artifact in, like, days.
and Sly is getting the brunt onthis, and it's like, I don't
know why.
Adam (29:28):
Well, meanwhile, at the Trevi Fountain, we've got a
couple of American tourists witha southern drawl, enjoying the
sights.
the guy says, I gotta say thoseItalians had some talented
plumbers.
And I'm just going to go aheadand give another Buddy Hawks
nomination, like all around herefor the Italian plumber.
stereotype bit as well as forjust the insulting southern
(29:49):
accents.
PJ (29:50):
It's just littered with Buddy Hawks noms this entire
episode.
I mean, I don't think we've everseen an episode so dense with it
Adam (29:57):
Unnecessary ones, too.
PJ (29:58):
a hundred percent.
Adam (29:59):
they could have just been normal American tourists.
Just a normal American accentwould have been fine.
Well, the ground below the TreviFountain starts to shake and
people are freaking out and itturns out that Venom is firing
lasers underground in thecatacombs.
PJ (30:14):
This is archeology at its best.
Adam (30:16):
Right?
PJ (30:17):
and I'll say this much.
Venom is living up to itsterrorist brand in terms of
wanton destruction.
Adam (30:23):
Yeah.
PJ (30:24):
point other than just like, you know, just destroying shit,
but fine.
Adam (30:29):
Mask picks up police reports and so they head to the
Trevi Fountain and the Americanwoman with the bad accent falls
into the fountain and she'sbeing sucked underwater as the
water drains down into thecatacombs.
But Gloria, she arrives in sharkShe uses aura to stop the wall
of water, and she saves thewoman's life.
And again, she is just such abadass.
PJ (30:50):
She is, I mean, Gloria and Hondo do so much of the heavy
lifting so often.
Adam (30:55):
Speaking of Hondo, he shows up and spots Venom driving
in the catacombs, and so Bruceuses Lifter to pull Jackhammer
out of the catacombs and ontothe streets, so it's kind of a
badass use of a mask power forsure.
PJ (31:09):
I really enjoy how Bruce just drops Jack hammer out of
the sky.
one other thing I noted fromthis scene switchblade is not in
this episode,
Adam (31:18):
Yeah, he's riding around in jackhammer the whole time.
So hurricane fires its rear tireand what is it with hondo and
vehicles that fire tires?
Like, I
PJ (31:29):
like, look, I'm not going to drive a vehicle unless it can
fire its tire in some amazingway.
that is like a, like red linefor him that any vehicle he
drives, he needs that power.
Adam (31:40):
Cliff raises the sort of front shield on Jackhammer, so
the tire bounces off it, butMiles is sitting in the laser
turret for some reason, and hetakes a direct hit in the face
from this tire.
Like, he should be very badlywounded by this, if not killed,
right?
PJ (31:54):
He's a hundred percent.
This is a Sly Rax nom for him.
Adam (31:58):
Oh, yeah.
PJ (31:58):
have broken his neck.
Adam (32:00):
Right.
PJ (32:01):
It rolls straight up.
Adam (32:03):
He's dead.
Well, we have a ThunderhawkManta battle in the sky.
Vanessa threatens to destroy theforum if Matt doesn't call off
his team.
So Matt, rather than doing,like, anything awesome, like,
with his technology, To stopVanessa from doing that.
He just tells the team to letthem go.
Which is the least badass thingwe've seen the whole episode.
(32:24):
And it comes from the leader ofMask himself.
PJ (32:26):
there's really not much that Matt does this episode and this
is actively harmful right here.
Adam (32:31):
Yeah.
PJ (32:32):
It was just like now he cares about the ruins.
Maybe those are ruins.
He cares about not the one he'sputting them
Adam (32:37):
Alright.
PJ (32:38):
on top of because otherwise I think it'd be like great razor
to the ground.
Like, I can't wait to put upanother outlet.
Adam (32:44):
The forum is the whole underpinning of my mall here, so
it's got to be standing.
Because people then walk up thestairs to the outlet mall.
PJ (32:53):
Did you find it interesting that Venom actually has a radio
frequency that can talk to Mask?
Adam (32:58):
I feel like it's the first time we've seen this.
Though there might have beensomething kind of implied in a
much earlier episode.
But yes, I did notice that.
And thought it was a bit odd.
Actually, why would they havethe same radio frequencies?
PJ (33:13):
I think it's like they have an open communication in case,
like, they need to like threatenor something like that.
Adam (33:19):
Well, meanwhile Sly Rax discovers Caesar's sword, and he
actually gets a fantastic ideathat if he keeps the sword he
can be as powerful as Caesar andhe won't have to be bossed
around by Miles anymore.
Super smart idea, Sly.
And in fact, when Miles callsfor a progress report, Sly says,
bug off.
PJ (33:39):
He, he gets a backbone.
And it made me think that maybethe sword does have a special
power.
Courage.
Adam (33:45):
Yes.
And there you go.
The power of the sword all alongwas the people of Rome
themselves.
PJ (33:51):
Now the sword is colored yellow, which does track, I
mean, actually it's colored moregolden.
So it does track with the wholeyellow death thing that we
talked about earlier, theanimation does make it look like
it's made of gold, which I'lljust say that gold's a terrible
metal to make
Adam (34:07):
Oh yeah.
PJ (34:08):
of.
soft and heavy.
It's like two things you do notwant in a sword.
Adam (34:13):
Right.
Back with Scott and T Bob, theydecide to turn back where they
came from only to find that thecat ate all the pepperoni.
So they don't know how to getout of the catacombs and T Bob
says too bad we didn't orderChinese.
And I'm, I'm sorry.
Is that racist?
I'm not sure I get what he'ssaying, but I'm pretty sure it's
(34:34):
racist.
PJ (34:34):
So I think there was a, popular eighties rumor that
Chinese food was made up ofalley cats.
I mean, this is a joke in themovie Scrooge
Adam (34:43):
Yeah.
PJ (34:43):
to take place at an earlier time.
So I, I definitely feel likethat implication is there.
So like I was going to give abuddy Hawks nom to T Bob at this
point in time, because It's bothobscure and weird, and, you
know, as a kid, how would you goand ask your parents, like, to
explain this to you at thatpoint in time?
Adam (35:02):
absolutely.
I mean, but if you, and if youthink of it, it is one of the
Buddy Hawks nominations we'vehad in this show.
to lean into the joke thatChinese food is made of alley
cats.
That's horrific.
That's
PJ (35:16):
And so that's why it was like, wait a second, like, how
do you unpack this?
And it never unpacks anythinggood.
Adam (35:22):
No, it never does.
Scott and t Bobb stumble uponracks who is polishing the
sword.
They try to run away, but Slycatches up to them and grabs t
bobb by the arm.
T Bobb has a great idea.
He ejects all the spaghetti outof his stomach uh, onto racks
Which causes a bunch of hungry,feral cats to attack Sly.
PJ (35:43):
It's such a great motion because basically, like, T Bob
threw up the spaghetti ontoRaxxon.
Like even though it's not digestor anything like that, it's just
like, warm spaghetti and saucebasically being like ejected
onto someone.
And if we're right about nocleaning, then some dried panda
poo too.
Adam (36:00):
Exactly, exactly.
And Rax is constantly gettingchased by, like, angry or feral
animals.
PJ (36:06):
Yeah.
Adam (36:07):
That's one of the continuing, running themes.
And again, giving more credenceto my theory that this episode
was written by the same personwho wrote Pandapoo.
Because Rax was also chased byanimals in that one as well.
PJ (36:20):
again, we'll, we'll do the final countdown at the very end,
Adam (36:23):
Yeah,
PJ (36:23):
would not be surprised at all.
Adam (36:25):
As they're escaping, Scott and T Bob do grab the sword.
PJ (36:29):
Scott's admiring.
It doesn't look neat.
I bet those are real jewels.
And gold! Which again, if it'seven partially made of gold,
like, it'd be really hard topick up.
So, Scott's juicing.
We know this from many episodesnow.
Adam (36:42):
Miles catches up to Sly in the catacombs, and Sly reveals
that he dropped the sword.
And so there's a little awkwardmoment there.
Matt, flying over inThunderhawk, spots T Bob on his
scanner.
And there's three Venom vehiclesgaining on them.
And he says, they're headedtoward the Coliseum! So that's
gonna set up this final battlein the Coliseum, which I think
is a very cool idea.
(37:04):
T Bob is burning rubber to getaway from Venom
PJ (37:08):
He looks pissed.
Like he's got his mean eyes onat this
Adam (37:11):
Yeah, yeah, he's got his Roy Batty eyes for sure So now
it's all inside the Coliseum allthe vehicles and Scott and T Bob
and the sword Vanessa uses Whipto get the sword away from
Scott.
Miles grabs it from her, standsatop Jackhammer, and he has
literally his He Man, I have thepower moment, holding the sword
(37:33):
up to the sky.
Heh
PJ (37:35):
His line is, The end has come, mask.
You are powerless to stop menow.
I have the sword of Caesar.
So, before we go any further,and recalling all the earlier
moments, I want to take one morebeat.
Before we talk about what's tocome, Miles Mayhem is an elderly
man.
He has a sword.
Adam (37:55):
Heh heh
PJ (37:55):
He believes that sword makes him invincible.
And I want you to know thateverything's to follow should be
considered under that frameworkright now.
Okay,
Adam (38:05):
Alright.
He points that sword atThunderhawk, and Gloria uses
some smoke bombs that shepilfered from Vanessa to make it
look like Thunderhawk wasdestroyed.
But, in reality, they use thatdistraction to surround the
Venom vehicles, and Matt revealsthat the Sword of Caesar never
had any power.
(38:26):
I'm like, dude, seriously?
PJ (38:28):
again, we just talked about this, but let's review.
Gloria, Bruce, and Hondo justgaslit an old man to make him
believe, even for a moment, thathe destroyed Thunderhawk.
Good.
And the look on Miles face afterthis is so sad, it makes the
entire situation not okay, okay?
(38:49):
you have just morally destroyedthis man.
Like, I don't know if there'sever any coming back for him.
Adam (38:56):
I Know, it's like, look, he may be the leader of a
terrorist organization, but he'sstill a person.
And this is the moment wheregrandpa gets his car keys taken
away.
PJ (39:08):
It's so sad.
Adam (39:09):
It's so incredibly sad.
PJ (39:12):
because he looks so forlorn and we got to post this shot
because
Adam (39:15):
Oh, yeah.
PJ (39:16):
he's coming to the realization I am not what I used
to be.
I really believed that thissword was going to give me magic
powers to destroy vehicles.
it didn't.
Adam (39:28):
It's like, it's not enough for Matt to defeat Venom here.
He also has to destroy Miles asa human being.
PJ (39:37):
Success! He has succeeded.
Adam (39:39):
He has indeed.
Well, despite Venom beingcompletely surrounded by masked
vehicles, somehow they let themget away.
And this is just a completedereliction of duty.
There is no excuse for this.
They could have arrested themall.
And Venom would be done.
But somehow they just sit thereand they watch Venom drive away.
PJ (40:00):
I wonder if this is part of the cruelty of Matt.
just dressed down Miles sobrutally, like, he wants him to
suffer.
Like, he's not even gonna givehim a clean defeat.
He just wants him to, like, stewin his own shit.
Adam (40:13):
that syncs up with how Matt behaves.
Now, Scott wants to know howMatt survived.
Because he saw him blow up andMatt explains that it was a
diversion to take Venom'sattention away from Scott and
Scott hugs Matt he's like, ohdad, but he must be very
confused by
PJ (40:30):
I feel like this is Matt covering for the fact he just
destroyed an old man.
Because Venom was not interestedin Scott after getting the
sword.
Like, he very clearly says,Mask, I'm going to destroy you.
I think there's some retconningMatt's doing here.
Like, oh yeah, I mean, I wantedto Venom from going after you,
(40:50):
Scott.
That's why I destroyed that oldman.
Adam (40:54):
now Bruce grabs the sword he says Scott, how do you like a
souvenir?
And hands it to Scott.
So Scott takes the sword andthen says he's found the best
use for it.
Cutting pizza! So here's myquestion.
Scott gets to keep a pricelessartifact?
PJ (41:09):
All I heard in my head was Indiana Jones screaming
That belongs in a museum!
So, I'll say this much.
No one knew about the artifactslocation previously.
So Matt's like, no one's gonnamiss it.
Adam (41:22):
Everyone thought I was a legend anyway, so now we've got
ourselves a golden sword.
PJ (41:25):
And I
Adam (41:25):
it to the
PJ (41:26):
those ruins for my mall, so I own that sword now.
Adam (41:30):
Well, everyone laughs.
And we cut to the more you know.
Scott drops an orange into thegarbage disposal, and T Bob
reaches for it, and, I mean,like, what the heck, guys?
Like, you just did the garbagedisposal one a few episodes ago.
is wrong with you?
PJ (41:47):
I couldn't figure out if this was such a major problem in
the 80s.
We had to have two to threelessons on this because if so,
the pileup that's happening inthat sink is incredible.
Like, it's absolutelyincredible.
Like,
Adam (42:00):
Well, he also says like, you never know when someone's
going to turn it on as if it'slike the final destination movie
where you never know, like, isit going to turn on?
Is it not?
I do have to say though, afterwatching these things, I am a
bit hesitant now when I knowthere's something in the garbage
disposal that I have to pullout.
I'm like.
Wait, is this, is it going toturn on?
So, it's working.
PJ (42:22):
disposals in the 80s had a tendency to turn themselves on.
Maybe this is like a dramaticflaw that we're unaware of
today.
Adam (42:31):
proper way to do it is to go to the fuse box, turn off the
circuit breaker for the kitchen,and then go pull things out of
the garbage disposal.
And then turn it back on.
Kids, here's how, here's thefuse box.
that's it.
That's it.
We learned the lesson again, andwe are out.
So let's grade the skills of ouragents, shall we?
(42:52):
So Gloria was chosen because ofher background in archeology.
PJ (42:57):
I mean, I, I could not figure, I mean, maybe she
recognized a route for the, youknow, fountain, but it's never
very explicit.
So D minus
Adam (43:07):
Okay.
PJ (43:07):
very generous with Gloria.
I never like, honestly, I neverliked giving Gloria or Hondo low
grades.
Cause I think so highly of them,but like, this is a
Adam (43:14):
Yeah.
PJ (43:15):
like I can't.
I can't justify any higher.
Adam (43:17):
Well, and I think that you gave her the D minus.
In relation to Hondo, And whatdo you give him there?
PJ (43:24):
that's an F that is
Adam (43:26):
Alright,
PJ (43:26):
F right there.
If I could give a lower grade, Iwould because the entire thing's
bullshit and Hondo, I'm sodisappointed
Adam (43:34):
and it's why you have to give Gloria a D minus.
Because at least she doesn'tmake stuff up.
About And then finally uh,Bruce, who was pre selected
because he was there.
PJ (43:47):
Yeah.
So he doesn't run off.
So, I guess pass,
Adam (43:50):
what was he even doing there?
Hanging with Matt?
PJ (43:52):
yeah, I mean, we've seen him kind of vacation with Matt,
Scott, and T Bob before, somaybe they're doing kind of
another, round of that,
Adam (44:00):
Yeah, yeah,
PJ (44:02):
so he doesn't run, so fine, you get a passing grade, I mean,
literally, it's a pass fail, soyou
Adam (44:07):
Alright, is this episode Pandapoo?
PJ (44:11):
Yes.
Adam (44:11):
Yes, we both agree with that.
Yes, it is a terrible, terribleepisode.
PJ (44:15):
So much, so much, man, the history is terrible.
There's stakes are poor.
Adam (44:20):
back to the namesake of this award, episode was about
Miles carving his face into thestone idols on Easter Island.
And the pandas were there asbasically human shields, animal
shields to prevent people fromstopping him doing that.
Those are the stakes for thisone.
(44:42):
The stakes are a sword with nopower,
PJ (44:45):
We've also talked about the fact that venom needs to be a
credible threat
Adam (44:49):
right?
PJ (44:50):
you know, we've seen credible threats like earthquake
machines, down comments youknow, giant caterpillars even,
here I end up feeling sorry formiles more than anything else.
Adam (45:02):
Yeah.
PJ (45:02):
where I am left.
finally, I sort of alluded tothis earlier.
This is pound for pound, reallylike, ace, a players across the
board for mask, you know,
Adam (45:11):
The best mask agents there are.
PJ (45:13):
Yeah.
They're wasted in this episode.
Adam (45:15):
Panda poo all around.
Okay, let's take a look at ourawards.
The Buddy Hawks Award.
What do you think?
PJ (45:22):
You know, this, this ended up turning into an honorable
mention, which was
Adam (45:26):
Mm hmm.
PJ (45:27):
for Caesar.
I did not think that would havebeen beat, but T Bob with the
Chinese food and cat connection,
Adam (45:33):
Yeah.
PJ (45:33):
that, trumped it.
and again, this is an episodelittered with like possibilities
here, but
Adam (45:38):
Mm hmm
PJ (45:39):
did it for me.
Adam (45:39):
Yeah, the t bob Chinese food alley cats thing is
unforgivable sometimes Sometimesin some of these we push the
envelope a little bit and wethink oh, yeah, but it was the
80s Like you and I talk aboutthis maybe afterwards.
Yeah, it was the 80s.
So maybe contextually it wasn'tseen as racist Even though we
know it clearly was.
(45:59):
This was at the time clearly aracist joke.
PJ (46:05):
Yeah,
Adam (46:06):
This is unforgivable.
So yes to T Bob, but a Thousandyes for the writer of the
episode.
PJ (46:14):
we're really racking up that Lifetime Achievement Award for
the writers.
Adam (46:18):
Oh boy Father of the Year Award
PJ (46:21):
You know, I was kind of torn on this.
I mean, it's kind of easy forthe Matt leaving Scott in Rome.
Adam (46:26):
Yeah.
PJ (46:26):
to me that Matt lying to Scott about why he did that
distraction,
Adam (46:30):
Yeah.
PJ (46:33):
because he clearly wanted to, like, embarrass Miles.
Adam (46:35):
I just, I do think Matt dropping Scott and T Bob off at
the hotel, it's standard.
It's
PJ (46:40):
off
Adam (46:40):
standard fare.
PJ (46:41):
off screen, they
Adam (46:42):
Yeah.
PJ (46:43):
like showing it this
Adam (46:44):
Yeah.
Uh, Slyrax Ragdoll Award?
PJ (46:46):
I think it's got to go to Scott following his doom with
Adam (46:49):
Mm hmm.
PJ (46:50):
crushing him.
Adam (46:50):
I do like Miles getting hit in the face with the tire,
though.
I
PJ (46:53):
that, yeah,
Adam (46:54):
mean, that one is uh, that's hardcore.
And he walks away without ascratch.
PJ (46:59):
that was like an honorable mention I had for that one,
which was like, Oh, I reallywant to give it to Miles for
breaking his neck that time.
Adam (47:06):
Notably, not a physical scratch on him, but tons of
emotional damage.
PJ (47:09):
He's destroyed.
Adam (47:10):
And uh, what do you think?
Any Roy Batty awards here?
PJ (47:13):
That T Bob is indeed referring to Talos, the mythical
bronze robot.
Adam (47:19):
huh.
PJ (47:19):
his desire to crush his enemies.
Adam (47:21):
I agree.
All I can think of at the Talosis Gigantor.
Okay, well that was episode 33.
Coming up is episode 34, Perilin Paris.
Buddy Hawks disguises himself asVenom Agent Dagger in order to
infiltrate Venom's secret basein Paris.
(47:42):
There, He uncovers Venom's planto find a Nazi doomsday machine.
And just a note for those of youwho are in Region 2 so over in
Europe this episode was titledPeril Under Paris.
So there you go.
More Nazis.
PJ (47:57):
I, I was shocked when I saw this episode and I feel like
this one tops the last episodewe saw with Nazis in terms of
just like, wow,
Adam (48:06):
I cannot wait.
But I will have to because fornow this podcast has to
transform and head back to HQ.
I am Adam Moore.
PJ (48:14):
And I am PJ
Adam (48:15):
Buh bye!
PJ (48:17):
bye.
The mobile armored podcast showis written, produced and edited.
Bye Adam Moore.
And PJ McNerney.
Welcome to the Mobile Armored Podcast Show, the
podcast that transforms into anIndiana Jones scale desecration
of ruins.
My name is Adam Moore, alongsidemy co host and best friend PJ
McNerney, who came up with Thattransformation line.
PJ (00:28):
That's my one contribution to this episode at this point in
time.
So I want to call out that.
I mean, Adam does an amazing jobof coming up with all these
transformations each and everytime.
And so this, this was my likeone, like, you know, bone that
I'm throwing in to help out.
You asked how I'm doing.
I'm very angry.
This, this particular episodeincenses me to no end.
(00:52):
So
Adam (00:54):
yeah.
I'm looking forward to our pandapoop conversation at the end of
the episode, you're angry.
I'm frustrated.
With it on a lot of levels buthere we are.
So it's episode 33 Caesar'ssword.
Venom agent Sly racks poses asthe ghost of Julius Caesar to
scare off a team ofarcheologists.
Who have uncovered Caesar'ssword of victory.
(01:16):
Now you and I took four years ofLatin in high school
PJ (01:19):
did,
Adam (01:19):
I don't remember Caesar's sort of victory being written
about in the Gallic wars oranything like that.
PJ (01:24):
Yeah, Debello Gallico doesn't mention it.
Believe it or not, There is asword, but we're going to, we're
going to talk a lot about this.
and I'm very, upset at ourfavorite history teacher in the
show, not in real life, I
Adam (01:37):
Right.
PJ (01:38):
This is also a lie.
Like, these archaeologists, ifthey're archaeologists at all,
have not, in fact, discoveredshit, okay?
Adam (01:46):
Yeah.
PJ (01:47):
this tagline is just, like, it's a lie, like, right off the
bat.
Adam (01:52):
Well, yeah, there is more like a professor and
construction workers, it seems.
All right, so we open onThunderhawk going wildly over
the speed limit in Rome withBruce, Scott, and T Bob in the
car there.
and notably Scott and T Bob arenot wearing seatbelts.
PJ (02:11):
I just like this idea of Matt, are garbage, you're in a
foreign country, don't worry, noone's going to enforce it.
Adam (02:18):
What are you a wimp?
Shut up, kid.
Though, I, and I did note, Iwent back and I noted that, that
Matt is in fact wearing aseatbelt.
PJ (02:25):
He
Adam (02:25):
So
PJ (02:26):
He
Adam (02:27):
he protects himself.
parents in the seventies and theeighties seatbelts.
What are you talking about?
You're in the back seat.
You're going to be fine.
PJ (02:33):
To be fair, Matt knows that at any point in time, his gull
wing doors might open and he'lltry to do a barrel roll.
So like, I actually think Mattneeds a seatbelt on at all
times.
Adam (02:45):
Yeah, true.
PJ (02:46):
Lest, lest he just fall out.
Adam (02:48):
Yeah.
But you're in the back seat.
You can also fall right up thosegullwing doors too.
So.
I'm going to nominate this for aFather of the Year moment, right
off the bat,
PJ (02:55):
yes, implies he's caring.
Adam (02:58):
So they're driving, they drive past the Colosseum and T
Bob says, they're gonna have tofix it up if they ever expect to
have a Major League franchise.
PJ (03:07):
I love how T Bob is, has succumbed to the tracker
tendency to think about money.
how do we commercialize thisthing, this ruined building?
It's useless just being apriceless artifact.
Adam (03:20):
Meanwhile, up on the Palatine Hill, some
stereotypical Italianconstruction workers are using a
crane to lift ancient ruins.
So I have many things I wouldlike to To pause on here.
PJ (03:34):
Yeah,
Adam (03:35):
First, we have a BuddyHawks nomination for the
very Mario Luigi accents we'rehearing here.
Hey, lift it up! Be careful!
PJ (03:44):
it's, it's pretty egregious.
And, you know, we've seen thisproblem before many, many times,
but like, it's on full displayhere.
Adam (03:53):
And then secondly, they're using a construction crane,
which might not be the best toolfor moving delicate ruins.
PJ (03:59):
I loved it.
I just, I was like, you knowwhat?
Fuck it.
Adam (04:03):
But here's the third thing is like, I'm pretty sure the
Palatine Hill has beenthoroughly excavated.
Like what more could theypossibly find?
PJ (04:10):
don't know if they're trying to find anything and I'm going
to reserve the right to recallthis moment later on the
episode, because I think it tiesto what are Matt's interests in
this area.
Adam (04:21):
Okay.
Noted.
Well, suddenly, some smoke comesout of a hole in the ground, and
the ghost of Julius Caesar, whosounds a lot like Sly Rax,
appears, and he says, Plebeians,the Palatine Hill is my
arresting place.
Like trying to do an Italianaccent like do you think Julius
(04:41):
Caesar had actually I don't knowWe don't know what they sounded
like, hey
PJ (04:46):
wouldn't be
Adam (04:46):
it's a my Well, there's that too
PJ (04:49):
I mean, he would be speaking in ancient Latin.
the closest that we have in themodern day would be the Romanian
people.
But I do not think he would belike emphasizing his words in
the Mario and Luigi style
Adam (05:06):
Right,
PJ (05:07):
accent we hear here.
Adam (05:08):
so certainly a Buddy Hawks nomination for Slyrax here
PJ (05:12):
100 percent on this one.
He also declares, when they askhim, who are you?
He's like, the most powerfulmilitary general of the ages,
Julius Caesar.
and I was like, okay, Julius wasreally impressive.
I don't want to take
Adam (05:25):
hmm.
PJ (05:26):
A few other folks might take issue with this, like
Adam (05:28):
Mm hmm Mm
PJ (05:30):
Hannibal Barca and then I cheated on this one.
I said Genghis Khan and his kidSubodai, but that came much
later on, so.
Adam (05:38):
agreed.
A bit of hyperbole.
I mean, he might Be the mostpowerful military general of the
ages.
If he has the power that'sdisplayed next, which is that
he, he fires a laser from hisfinger and breaks the winch on
the crane.
And he says, if you refuse toobey me, you will suffer my
wrath.
PJ (05:56):
Which destroys the ruin.
They were, they had this bigpillar that they were picking up
Adam (06:01):
Right.
PJ (06:02):
cracks on the ground.
It was like.
right.
Wanton destruction.
Thanks a lot, asshole.
Adam (06:08):
Yeah.
Well, also he says this is hisresting place.
So it's like, you're desecratingyour own resting place.
Oh,
PJ (06:14):
This is what you get if you desecrate my resting place, but
you just did it.
Shut up.
Adam (06:19):
Well we cut to Matt and Bruce.
And they are investigating theaftermath with a professor.
Who gets a solid Buddy Hawksnomination for his Italian
accent as well.
PJ (06:30):
I want to point out we're about three minutes in.
We've got like four to fivesolid Buddy Hawks right off the
bat.
Adam (06:37):
I know, in recent episodes.
We've kind of ducted a littlebit here and there.
And here we are in Italy wherethey don't necessarily have to
lean into it all that much.
And yet like left and right,we're getting Buddy Hawks
nominations.
It's crazy.
PJ (06:49):
were saving.
They were saving it up.
Adam (06:51):
They were, they were.
Well, Scott is there, of course,and he discovers a gold coin on
the ground, and he reads someLatin, but I couldn't make out
what he was saying.
What did you get?
PJ (07:03):
So I had to listen to this a few times.
it's weird.
Cause I said, what he said is E.
And the best I could come upwith it means from the rain and
snow I've never heard this onany Roman coin.
It's possible the, theymispronounced it or the Latin
was just janky.
They just put some shit down andit happens to match up with
(07:25):
this.
Adam (07:25):
Well, unfortunately, this this coin turns out to be
bronze.
And Scott is, like, super bummedout.
Like, it's just bronze.
It's like, dude, it's an ancientcoin you just found.
How cool is that?
It's worthless.
PJ (07:36):
the professor shits on it immediately because it's like,
oh, yeah, they find them allover the place here.
It's like, whatever,
Adam (07:42):
well, but can we talk about the fact that Matt is
almost certainly funding thisarcheological dig because that's
his MO.
So, is he trying to do here?
PJ (07:53):
Well, I mean, he gets carte blanche access, so I kind of
have to figure that he isfunding it.
I think they're putting up a newmall.
Honestly, and so I think thereason they're moving the ruins
is to develop the spacecommercially, because why would
you move a giant pillar likethat?
Like, you know, it's like, hey,you need to study it and do all
(08:15):
sorts of things rather thanrisk.
It's destruction.
So maybe it's a theme park.
I don't know, but it's
Adam (08:20):
No, I think you're right.
I think it's an outlet mall.
I think it's Palatine Hillsoutlet that they're putting up.
Come to Palatine Hills.
a tracker real estate property.
Well, Matt and Bruce, they usethe mask computer to analyze the
hook from the crane and thecomputer says evidence of
particle beam laser underdevelopment by venom.
And I just kind of got a littleconfused here.
(08:41):
Cause don't they already haveparticle beams?
Cause I got a science cornerhere to help me out.
PJ (08:46):
Let's kind of suss this out a bit.
It is a bizarre combination.
Let's start with what is aparticle beam?
Okay.
a particle beam is somethingthat accelerates a particle,
which could be like atomic orsubatomic.
Too high speeds to smash intosomething.
So,
Adam (09:04):
Mm hmm.
PJ (09:04):
you know, you could think of like any particle accelerator.
that's, you know, like CERN orsomething like that is a
particle beam.
So you're whipping around likeions or atoms, or even like
electrons or And you're firingthem in a given direction.
And you're like, they're gettingaccelerated to near light
speeds.
So when they hit something, it'sa lot of energy you're
(09:25):
dispersing.
the military been trying to playwith this for a while, and if
they've got it, it's underwraps.
It's probably on those NewJersey drones.
but what is a laser then?
So again, lasers, lightamplification through stimulated
emission of radiation, right?
So you're taking these coherentphotons, which means they're all
the same wavelength.
you're just firing him in agiven direction.
(09:45):
So if you want to get reallypedantic about it, lasers light
acts as both particle and waves.
So you can consider a laser tobe kind of a type of a particle
beam.
So calling something a particlebeam laser is kind of redundant.
here's the thing, if it's just alaser, so be it, they've come up
with something, and it's justlike, whatever.
If it is a particle beam,however, Sly is getting exposed
(10:06):
to amazingly dangerous levels ofEM radiation.
So, I hope he has put his spermin a bank ahead of time, because
that is no bueno, I'll tell youthat much.
Adam (10:17):
Oh, sly, just adding insult to injury in terms of the
radiation contamination of allthese people.
But what's interesting, too, islike the particle beam doesn't
necessarily even like pay off.
Later in the episode.
It's just that's theirconnection to Venom and it's
real real but it gives Matt theauthorization he needs to Go to
(10:39):
war in a foreign country And soin comes the agent selection
scene first up is Gloria Bakerblack belt in kung fu champion
race driver team hottie andMatt's wife and apparently a
Background in archeology,according to the computer.
Is she Lara Croft?
PJ (10:58):
maybe.
I mean, I guess, maybe LauraCroft was based on Gloria.
Adam (11:04):
well, she gets the call.
She's in the dojo and she dropsa female opponent onto the
ground without mercy and thenruns off.
PJ (11:12):
So I do want to point out, she actually, the scene involves
her first dropping the female
Adam (11:17):
That's true.
PJ (11:18):
Prior to the alarm going off, so she
Adam (11:20):
That's true.
PJ (11:21):
basically just out of course,
Adam (11:24):
Right.
PJ (11:24):
the emergency happened, she basically looks like she trips
the opponent again, and then shetakes off, like, so it's a real
fuck you moment at that point intime.
Adam (11:34):
Absolutely.
Second on the team is HondoMcClain.
And the computer says he's ahigh school history teacher with
expertise in ancient Rome.
We'll see how that goes.
So he's walking up the stairs inschool and he's giving these two
kids like some serious side eye.
It's very bizarre.
But then he gets the call and hecomes sliding down the banister
(11:57):
and he runs away.
PJ (11:58):
The expression from these kids is amazing.
They're so blown away by thismove.
I thought they were in aSkittles commercial because it's
that level of like,
Adam (12:10):
Whoa, Taste the Rainbow! Well, I'm starting to think that
maybe Hondo suspected these kidsof being totally stoned.
Like, as he's walking up thestairs and he's looking at them.
He's like sniffing.
He's like, wait a minute.
What's this that I smell becausethey are so stunned by him
sliding down the banister andrunning the way they're like,
(12:33):
Whoa,
PJ (12:34):
you cracked it, man.
This is Spicoli all the way.
Adam (12:38):
a hundred percent.
Well, the third member of ourteam is Bruce Sato preselected.
And I said, phew, like, thankgoodness.
Because that would have beenanother awkward conversation.
PJ (12:48):
Do you feel like Bruce would have been a little hurt the
computer didn't describe his uselike he did the others, other
than you happen to be there
Adam (12:57):
Well, look.
PJ (12:58):
it?
Adam (12:59):
In the past, as we know, the computer has not selected
the person who was alreadypresent.
So, at least he got, at least hegot that.
PJ (13:08):
Good
Adam (13:09):
let's do a check on the flight time
PJ (13:11):
So for Gloria and Hondo to get to Denver it's about 10 and
a half hours direct.
So, they'll have some time tokill in Rome.
Adam (13:18):
indeed.
Well, meanwhile We catch up withVenom and they are shacked up in
some underground tunnels slashruins beneath Rome Rax scares
Cliff with his Caesar's ghostcostume and he says you really
are dumb To which Cliffresponds.
Don't call me dumb and Rax sayssorry numbskull and Cliff says
(13:38):
that's better
PJ (13:41):
I really feel like we're getting to the point like, if we
didn't have so many awardsalready, I'd want to keep track
of how much shit Cliff takesit's a lot all the time
Adam (13:49):
it is.
It's a lot by the characters.
It's a lot by the writers aswell and dumping on him
PJ (13:54):
Did you notice Sly's not wearing glasses?
Like he looks alert he's off ofthe ganja you know, he's getting
back to his new year'sresolution.
Adam (14:01):
So Rax, by the way, he's really proud of himself and this
new laser that he has.
But Vanessa says, stop takingall the credit.
Because his ghost act wouldn'thave succeeded without her smoke
bombs.
And then, she throws one of themat Rax.
And the breeze emitted causeshis toga to lift up.
Exposing feminine uh, Like, Whatthe heck is going on here?
(14:23):
Like it's not even reallyappropriate for kids.
PJ (14:25):
yeah, we get treated to are several seconds of a closeup of
Sly's crotch.
there's like, there's no twoways about it.
Like, you know, they, they makesure they zoom in right away and
then continue it on afterwards.
Adam (14:39):
I know, it's bizarre.
PJ (14:40):
And I'd like to point out this.
So there is no visible smokehere.
This
Adam (14:44):
Right.
PJ (14:45):
bomb.
This is a Marilyn Monroe subwayair vent bomb because that is
the effect it has caused.
Adam (14:53):
That's exactly, no, that's exactly what it does.
And it's, It has no purposehere.
The previous time it was in theshow he was being chased, was it
by the pandas?
And his pants got ripped and itshowed like his little boxers
shorts with hearts on them.
I think I'm rememberingcorrectly.
and this episode definitelygives the panda one to run for
its money.
So, Maybe it's the same writerand the writer just loves
showing Sly Rax's underwear.
(15:13):
And I think that's an issue thatwriter Needs to deal with with a
therapist, right?
PJ (15:19):
it because the last time we got like a brief shot lasting
maybe a couple seconds of Sly'sheart underwear, this one, we
get a zoom in and then wecontinue it like at a wide shot
of making sure, you know, thisis his underwear.
Adam (15:35):
but not to belabor this point, but do they not know how
to animate underwear because ormaybe Sly just wears really
really blousey boxer shortsbecause They're waving in the
wind like it's a skirt
PJ (15:48):
Okay.
Actually, I'll, I'll back theanimators on this one.
Cause like they, they get thescript and they're going to call
up and say, wait, you, want usto animate this guy's underwear?
Like, we don't, we don't knowhow to do that because that's
not what you do in a children'sshow.
No, no.
You have to animate theunderwear.
Are you sure?
Do it or you're fucking fired.
Like, I feel like that's, that'sthe, so I'll, I'll buy the fact
(16:10):
this is badly animated becausethis is not something you
typically do in a kid's show.
Adam (16:14):
Inappropriate across the board.
Well Miles it turns out has aplan for Venom to become
invincible He says, and all Ihave to do is follow this map.
And I just want to pause hereand say, like, okay, Miles, Have
any of your other quote unquotemaps that lead to Venom's
invincibility?
ever paid off.
They haven't gone very well sofar.
PJ (16:36):
so invincibility, no, they nearly did find that.
I mean, they did technicallyfind the Nazi gold a few
episodes ago.
They didn't get to keep it nevermade them invincible.
they tend to find the stuff andjust lose it.
but.
Prosecution reserves the rightto return to this moment to the
sadness of Miles Mayhem, thisepisode, okay?
(16:57):
you're right there is a problemthat we're going to encounter
here with regards to Miles plan.
Adam (17:02):
Well, meanwhile, and T Bob basically orphaned as usual.
They're eating at a a cafe.
Scott gets spaghetti andmeatballs.
And a large pizza.
This kid's starving.
no one is feeding him.
Boy.
And then the waitress says, Andfor you, T Bubbino, my extra
(17:22):
special olive oil, which he thenuses to lubricate his arm, which
I find to be gross.
just a couple things here.
One, Why does this waitress knowScott and T Bob so well?
And then also two, a father ofthe year moment, because where
the heck is Matt?
PJ (17:38):
I think the answer to both questions we know is Matt's left
Scott and T Bob here very often.
I'll say that we don't havequite enough evidence to say
that Matt's had a dalliance withthe waitress, but at the very
least, like, Scott and T Bobcome here a lot, very lonely.
And this waitress sees that.
Adam (17:56):
well good, at least there's someone who's feeling
Scott's pain here.
Scott tells T Bob that he wantsto go to the Palatine Hill, but
T Bob reminds him that Matt madehim promise not to go looking
for bronze coins.
And so that allows Scott to finda loophole, because he's looking
for gold coins.
He wants to run off and t bobbis like, what about the food?
So cool that t Bobb doesn't wantto waste food.
(18:18):
But Scott's answer to that is todump all the food into like a
trash receptacle inside of tBobb, which is also very gross.
PJ (18:27):
The last time we've seen that, wasn't there like some
kind of animal that was likebeing kept warm inside of T Bob.
Adam (18:34):
it was a baby.
Something that was being keptwarm inside of Tbo
PJ (18:37):
Let me ask you a question.
Has
Adam (18:38):
Baby Panda.
It might have been the Panda BaBaby Panda.
PJ (18:41):
panda.
Adam (18:42):
Yep.
PJ (18:42):
was a baby panda, you're right.
Has Scott cleaned the receptaclesince then?
Adam (18:47):
No,
PJ (18:48):
Okay.
Adam (18:49):
no,
PJ (18:49):
to be
Adam (18:50):
no.
PJ (18:50):
there's very old panda poo inside of T Bob that now is in
the same place where the foodis.
Adam (18:57):
yum.
Well there's some cool stuffhere actually, not so much the
Skaad being abandoned again.
But um, Thunderhawk takes offinto the air to intercept the
Masked Jet, and we see it'sbeing flown by Gloria and Hondo.
So I kind of liked that moment.
PJ (19:10):
did too.
I like that.
It was a very cool, like, Hey,we're going to rendezvous in the
sky.
it's, know, implied, but it'slike both Gloria and Hondo
aren't just sort of bad assdrivers.
They're also like capable pilotsas well.
Adam (19:23):
Yeah, let's add that to the list of things that Gloria
can do.
PJ (19:25):
Yes.
Adam (19:26):
she's, she's not Lara Croft, she's like James Bond.
Like, she can do
PJ (19:31):
is.
Adam (19:32):
She should be the star of the show.
But I digress.
Matt asks them if they've everheard of Caesar's sword.
Now, Hondo, remember, picked forhis knowledge of ancient Roman
history, says, sure.
When Caesar possessed the sword,Rome became a mighty empire.
But when it was taken from him,he fell, and so did Rome.
Whoa,
PJ (19:52):
We come to the heart of my anger for this episode, Hondo, I
know the writers made you saythat, so it's hard for me to
blame you.
I'm still very disappointed inyou this is like someone just
decided, oh, let's just inventthis history.
Even though like we're going tobe actively harming kids by
telling them a lie.
Adam (20:13):
right.
PJ (20:14):
is shit that would actually be on history tests.
And I could
Adam (20:17):
Yeah.
PJ (20:18):
some poor third grader, like, saying, No! He had a magic
sword!
Adam (20:22):
you're right, this is not some obscure history or
mythology from a part of theworld that the, that Western
kids wouldn't know much about.
Right, this is Roman history.
This is the Roman Empire, youknow, it's pretty well known
PJ (20:39):
yeah.
And we'll get into the detailsin a second.
There's
Adam (20:42):
Yeah.
PJ (20:43):
you if you wanted to do this kind of episode, because
actually G.
I.
Joe did it, but they actuallydid it the right way.
Adam (20:50):
Mm hmm.
PJ (20:51):
is change it from Caesar's sword to Excalibur.
Adam (20:53):
you go.
PJ (20:54):
then you get to kind of drive a bus through whatever
mythology you want to at thatpoint in time, but anyway, the
writers have somehow combinedthe Ark of the Covenant from
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Adam (21:04):
Right,
The Bible speaks of the Arkleveling mountains and laying
waste to entire regions.
An army which carries the Arkbefore it is invincible.
You
PJ (21:18):
let's get to the reality of it Caesar did have a sword and I
didn't know this because it'snot important But it was called
Crocea Mors, which stands foryellow death.
from everything I've been ableto tell, cause he fought in, it
wasn't just an armchairgenerally, he just, he got in
the mix with it.
So it was a Gladius, which is atype of Roman sword.
(21:40):
So, I mean, there's broadswords, there's Katanas, there's
Claymores, you know, Gladius isa type of sword.
and supposedly the swordactually was lost when he was
fighting a Britannic Prince, hisname Neneus.
When the sword got stuck in theguy's shield.
Now Neneus was a badass, causehe was mortally wounded by this,
but he's still like Survive for15 days, took the sword and
(22:02):
started killing Romans with it,but he was buried with the sword
as a mark of honor and to besure Julius, even after losing
the sword, did pretty fine.
He returned to Rome, becamedictator and he was.
It's fine until he wasassassinated and, it's a little
hard to suss out.
He still was an amazing generalafter that.
More importantly, this is apoint that I feel like gets lost
(22:24):
all the time, Julius didn'treally create the empire he was
at the tail end of the Republic.
if you really look at it becauseit's an interesting period of
history where there were thesepatriarchy like the oligarchy
that was there and that was likekind of this like patrician
state that was developing andthis kind of idea of a dictator
was almost like a lesser evil.
(22:45):
and there's some sort of thoughtthat he might have been trying
to reform Rome.
he did not create the Empire.
But his great grand or his grandnephew, Augustus, certainly
fucking did.
Adam (22:55):
Right.
PJ (22:56):
and to be sure, the Empire did not die with Julius.
It lasted for almost 000 yearsuntil the last vestiges of the
Holy Roman Empire died out.
So this is an amount ofbullshit.
That's incredible.
Adam (23:09):
So just restating it, when Caesar possessed the sword, Rome
became a mighty empire.
When it was taken from him, hefell, and so did Rome.
So
PJ (23:19):
no.
Okay.
No.
He was assassinated by membersof the Senate because they were
afraid he was becoming toopowerful.
Adam (23:27):
Thank you for unpacking that and proving that it's all a
bunch of hogwash.
Bruce reveals that a map wasstolen from a private
collection, and they think thatVenom stole it, and if they find
the sword, Mayhem will, and I,this is in quotes, Mayhem will
feel.
He has become invincible.
And that's what I heard.
(23:48):
What did you hear?
Because if this is all aboutstopping miles, because he will
feel he's become invincible, I'mchecking out right now.
PJ (23:58):
hate to confirm it for you, but yes, they're concerned with
Miles's feelings right now.
Okay.
They, and I was like, doesn't healready feel like a
megalomaniac?
and again, I want to of sum thisup as we go forward.
We're afraid that an old man isgoing to feel invincible when he
holds a sword.
(24:18):
And that's why we're going to dowhat we're about to do.
Adam (24:21):
I just love that.
I'm like, Miles is going to feelinvincible.
Form Mobile Armored StrikeCommand.
We will not let this man feelthat way.
Well, if this turns out to beauthentic, Hondo reveals that
there's a kid in his historyclass whose grade will have to
be changed from an F to an A.
So, not only is Hondo Historyinformation completely wrong,
(24:44):
but his grades are totallyarbitrary.
PJ (24:47):
So I played this one out in my head, and I love the idea
that some kid has submitted areport around Caesar's sword
after watching Raiders of theLost Ark.
And like, Hondo, and he rightlythinks this is bullshit, so he
gave him the right grade of anF,
Adam (25:04):
right.
PJ (25:05):
Hondo's gonna have to go back to that kid and be like I
got some new info.
Huh?
Adam (25:09):
Well, but how is he going to reveal this info to the kid?
So, I got some new info while Iwas off with my paramilitary
organization that's my sidehustle Well, oh boy.
Meanwhile, Scott is digging andmoving stones around and he
finds a potential tunnel T bobtumbles down some column he's
(25:30):
sitting atop which causes allthe stones that scott has moved
around to collapse And surprise,surprise, Scott and T Bob go
falling to their doom.
PJ (25:42):
Okay, a few things.
I want to remind folks we did acomputation on T Bob's weight
and we think it's somewhere onthe order of pounds.
Adam (25:51):
Right,
PJ (25:51):
So, note that he just slammed into Scott.
And were there no guards ortourist guides just to say you
can't play on those ruins?
Adam (26:01):
Well, there might have been, but he's Matt's kid.
So they just step aside and lethim in.
PJ (26:06):
good point.
Adam (26:07):
I gotta ask you though, with Scott and T Bob falling to
their doom, What's going tohappen?
PJ (26:12):
I don't know! I don't know! Oh,
Adam (26:15):
We'll find out after these messages
Hold on.
There's a battle we have to tendto.
Be right back.
We got them.
Now back to the show.
we're back when we left you scott and t bob were as
usual falling to their doom Butthis time i'm, sorry to say
Scott hits the bottom.
He's dead And Matt will never bethe same.
(26:37):
Just kidding.
Before they hit the ground, TBob grabs onto a root that's
sticking out, and Scott grabshold.
Once on the ground, Scottdiscovers another bronze coin.
And he's, again, super notthrilled about finding ancient
artifacts.
PJ (26:51):
So, certainly a Slyrax for, for this, this whole, like,
sequence, basically, like, causehe should be dead.
Adam (26:58):
Yeah.
Also, Scott is pretty nonchalantabout almost dying.
PJ (27:02):
He, he, that
Adam (27:03):
he let
PJ (27:05):
It's so passé at this point in time, man!
Adam (27:07):
Yeah.
Well, Teavop makes a joke abouthow some of his best friends are
bronze.
Any guesses as to what he'sreferring to?
PJ (27:14):
I mean, I had no idea.
I mean, other than I was like, Ilooked up like, what are bronze
robots?
Adam (27:20):
Mm hmm.
PJ (27:21):
it'd be like, Oh, maybe from Metropolis or something like
that.
But no, turns out there's thisthing called, it's an ancient
myth, Talos, the mythical bronzerobot of Crete.
Which was this magical robotthat was gifted from Hephaestus
to King Minos of Crete, had twojobs, to supervise the laws, and
(27:41):
apparently to fly over Cretethree times a day to watch for
invaders, and what's great isthat if he saw ships, he would
throw rocks at the ships, but ifhe saw invaders or enemies on
the land itself, He would dothis flame on thing where he
would heat up his body and thengrab the guy and just basically
(28:03):
burn him against his chest ispretty insane.
Adam (28:07):
doesn't doesn't kill them he just leaves them very badly
burned.
PJ (28:10):
Very badly burned.
And so if this is like, again,this is the only reference to a
bronze robot I could think of,which I found to be a Roy Batty
moment for Mr.
T.
Bob here.
Adam (28:20):
Oh Yeah, for sure.
That's definitely a tip of thehat to his future plan Well, it
turns out that Scott and T Bobare in the catacombs under Rome.
T Bob starts leaving a trail ofpepperoni behind them so they
don't get lost.
But, of course, a cat with verystrange coloring starts eating
the pepperoni.
PJ (28:37):
I never thought this plan was good.
I don't see why he did.
His catacombs contain rats.
Adam (28:43):
No, it's,
PJ (28:44):
returning to where you fell in isn't going to help you get
back out.
Like, I
Adam (28:49):
Totally.
They don't even really needthat.
I mean, it's a setup forsomething really dumb that
happens near the end of theepisode.
Well, meanwhile, Venom is in thecatacombs.
They still haven't found thesword yet.
So Miles decides to take Cliffand Vanessa with him while he
orders Sly To go and check outanother catacomb on his own and
(29:10):
so I actually complains aboutthis and I'm just wondering a
slide being punished forsomething.
PJ (29:15):
didn't know it's weird because like.
Miles has this expectation ofbeing able to find an ancient
artifact in, like, days.
and Sly is getting the brunt onthis, and it's like, I don't
know why.
Adam (29:28):
Well, meanwhile, at the Trevi Fountain, we've got a
couple of American tourists witha southern drawl, enjoying the
sights.
the guy says, I gotta say thoseItalians had some talented
plumbers.
And I'm just going to go aheadand give another Buddy Hawks
nomination, like all around herefor the Italian plumber.
stereotype bit as well as forjust the insulting southern
(29:49):
accents.
PJ (29:50):
It's just littered with Buddy Hawks noms this entire
episode.
I mean, I don't think we've everseen an episode so dense with it
Adam (29:57):
Unnecessary ones, too.
PJ (29:58):
a hundred percent.
Adam (29:59):
they could have just been normal American tourists.
Just a normal American accentwould have been fine.
Well, the ground below the TreviFountain starts to shake and
people are freaking out and itturns out that Venom is firing
lasers underground in thecatacombs.
PJ (30:14):
This is archeology at its best.
Adam (30:16):
Right?
PJ (30:17):
and I'll say this much.
Venom is living up to itsterrorist brand in terms of
wanton destruction.
Adam (30:23):
Yeah.
PJ (30:24):
point other than just like, you know, just destroying shit,
but fine.
Adam (30:29):
Mask picks up police reports and so they head to the
Trevi Fountain and the Americanwoman with the bad accent falls
into the fountain and she'sbeing sucked underwater as the
water drains down into thecatacombs.
But Gloria, she arrives in sharkShe uses aura to stop the wall
of water, and she saves thewoman's life.
And again, she is just such abadass.
PJ (30:50):
She is, I mean, Gloria and Hondo do so much of the heavy
lifting so often.
Adam (30:55):
Speaking of Hondo, he shows up and spots Venom driving
in the catacombs, and so Bruceuses Lifter to pull Jackhammer
out of the catacombs and ontothe streets, so it's kind of a
badass use of a mask power forsure.
PJ (31:09):
I really enjoy how Bruce just drops Jack hammer out of
the sky.
one other thing I noted fromthis scene switchblade is not in
this episode,
Adam (31:18):
Yeah, he's riding around in jackhammer the whole time.
So hurricane fires its rear tireand what is it with hondo and
vehicles that fire tires?
Like, I
PJ (31:29):
like, look, I'm not going to drive a vehicle unless it can
fire its tire in some amazingway.
that is like a, like red linefor him that any vehicle he
drives, he needs that power.
Adam (31:40):
Cliff raises the sort of front shield on Jackhammer, so
the tire bounces off it, butMiles is sitting in the laser
turret for some reason, and hetakes a direct hit in the face
from this tire.
Like, he should be very badlywounded by this, if not killed,
right?
PJ (31:54):
He's a hundred percent.
This is a Sly Rax nom for him.
Adam (31:58):
Oh, yeah.
PJ (31:58):
have broken his neck.
Adam (32:00):
Right.
PJ (32:01):
It rolls straight up.
Adam (32:03):
He's dead.
Well, we have a ThunderhawkManta battle in the sky.
Vanessa threatens to destroy theforum if Matt doesn't call off
his team.
So Matt, rather than doing,like, anything awesome, like,
with his technology, To stopVanessa from doing that.
He just tells the team to letthem go.
Which is the least badass thingwe've seen the whole episode.
(32:24):
And it comes from the leader ofMask himself.
PJ (32:26):
there's really not much that Matt does this episode and this
is actively harmful right here.
Adam (32:31):
Yeah.
PJ (32:32):
It was just like now he cares about the ruins.
Maybe those are ruins.
He cares about not the one he'sputting them
Adam (32:37):
Alright.
PJ (32:38):
on top of because otherwise I think it'd be like great razor
to the ground.
Like, I can't wait to put upanother outlet.
Adam (32:44):
The forum is the whole underpinning of my mall here, so
it's got to be standing.
Because people then walk up thestairs to the outlet mall.
PJ (32:53):
Did you find it interesting that Venom actually has a radio
frequency that can talk to Mask?
Adam (32:58):
I feel like it's the first time we've seen this.
Though there might have beensomething kind of implied in a
much earlier episode.
But yes, I did notice that.
And thought it was a bit odd.
Actually, why would they havethe same radio frequencies?
PJ (33:13):
I think it's like they have an open communication in case,
like, they need to like threatenor something like that.
Adam (33:19):
Well, meanwhile Sly Rax discovers Caesar's sword, and he
actually gets a fantastic ideathat if he keeps the sword he
can be as powerful as Caesar andhe won't have to be bossed
around by Miles anymore.
Super smart idea, Sly.
And in fact, when Miles callsfor a progress report, Sly says,
bug off.
PJ (33:39):
He, he gets a backbone.
And it made me think that maybethe sword does have a special
power.
Courage.
Adam (33:45):
Yes.
And there you go.
The power of the sword all alongwas the people of Rome
themselves.
PJ (33:51):
Now the sword is colored yellow, which does track, I
mean, actually it's colored moregolden.
So it does track with the wholeyellow death thing that we
talked about earlier, theanimation does make it look like
it's made of gold, which I'lljust say that gold's a terrible
metal to make
Adam (34:07):
Oh yeah.
PJ (34:08):
of.
soft and heavy.
It's like two things you do notwant in a sword.
Adam (34:13):
Right.
Back with Scott and T Bob, theydecide to turn back where they
came from only to find that thecat ate all the pepperoni.
So they don't know how to getout of the catacombs and T Bob
says too bad we didn't orderChinese.
And I'm, I'm sorry.
Is that racist?
I'm not sure I get what he'ssaying, but I'm pretty sure it's
(34:34):
racist.
PJ (34:34):
So I think there was a, popular eighties rumor that
Chinese food was made up ofalley cats.
I mean, this is a joke in themovie Scrooge
Adam (34:43):
Yeah.
PJ (34:43):
to take place at an earlier time.
So I, I definitely feel likethat implication is there.
So like I was going to give abuddy Hawks nom to T Bob at this
point in time, because It's bothobscure and weird, and, you
know, as a kid, how would you goand ask your parents, like, to
explain this to you at thatpoint in time?
Adam (35:02):
absolutely.
I mean, but if you, and if youthink of it, it is one of the
Buddy Hawks nominations we'vehad in this show.
to lean into the joke thatChinese food is made of alley
cats.
That's horrific.
That's
PJ (35:16):
And so that's why it was like, wait a second, like, how
do you unpack this?
And it never unpacks anythinggood.
Adam (35:22):
No, it never does.
Scott and t Bobb stumble uponracks who is polishing the
sword.
They try to run away, but Slycatches up to them and grabs t
bobb by the arm.
T Bobb has a great idea.
He ejects all the spaghetti outof his stomach uh, onto racks
Which causes a bunch of hungry,feral cats to attack Sly.
PJ (35:43):
It's such a great motion because basically, like, T Bob
threw up the spaghetti ontoRaxxon.
Like even though it's not digestor anything like that, it's just
like, warm spaghetti and saucebasically being like ejected
onto someone.
And if we're right about nocleaning, then some dried panda
poo too.
Adam (36:00):
Exactly, exactly.
And Rax is constantly gettingchased by, like, angry or feral
animals.
PJ (36:06):
Yeah.
Adam (36:07):
That's one of the continuing, running themes.
And again, giving more credenceto my theory that this episode
was written by the same personwho wrote Pandapoo.
Because Rax was also chased byanimals in that one as well.
PJ (36:20):
again, we'll, we'll do the final countdown at the very end,
Adam (36:23):
Yeah,
PJ (36:23):
would not be surprised at all.
Adam (36:25):
As they're escaping, Scott and T Bob do grab the sword.
PJ (36:29):
Scott's admiring.
It doesn't look neat.
I bet those are real jewels.
And gold! Which again, if it'seven partially made of gold,
like, it'd be really hard topick up.
So, Scott's juicing.
We know this from many episodesnow.
Adam (36:42):
Miles catches up to Sly in the catacombs, and Sly reveals
that he dropped the sword.
And so there's a little awkwardmoment there.
Matt, flying over inThunderhawk, spots T Bob on his
scanner.
And there's three Venom vehiclesgaining on them.
And he says, they're headedtoward the Coliseum! So that's
gonna set up this final battlein the Coliseum, which I think
is a very cool idea.
(37:04):
T Bob is burning rubber to getaway from Venom
PJ (37:08):
He looks pissed.
Like he's got his mean eyes onat this
Adam (37:11):
Yeah, yeah, he's got his Roy Batty eyes for sure So now
it's all inside the Coliseum allthe vehicles and Scott and T Bob
and the sword Vanessa uses Whipto get the sword away from
Scott.
Miles grabs it from her, standsatop Jackhammer, and he has
literally his He Man, I have thepower moment, holding the sword
(37:33):
up to the sky.
Heh
PJ (37:35):
His line is, The end has come, mask.
You are powerless to stop menow.
I have the sword of Caesar.
So, before we go any further,and recalling all the earlier
moments, I want to take one morebeat.
Before we talk about what's tocome, Miles Mayhem is an elderly
man.
He has a sword.
Adam (37:55):
Heh heh
PJ (37:55):
He believes that sword makes him invincible.
And I want you to know thateverything's to follow should be
considered under that frameworkright now.
Okay,
Adam (38:05):
Alright.
He points that sword atThunderhawk, and Gloria uses
some smoke bombs that shepilfered from Vanessa to make it
look like Thunderhawk wasdestroyed.
But, in reality, they use thatdistraction to surround the
Venom vehicles, and Matt revealsthat the Sword of Caesar never
had any power.
(38:26):
I'm like, dude, seriously?
PJ (38:28):
again, we just talked about this, but let's review.
Gloria, Bruce, and Hondo justgaslit an old man to make him
believe, even for a moment, thathe destroyed Thunderhawk.
Good.
And the look on Miles face afterthis is so sad, it makes the
entire situation not okay, okay?
(38:49):
you have just morally destroyedthis man.
Like, I don't know if there'sever any coming back for him.
Adam (38:56):
I Know, it's like, look, he may be the leader of a
terrorist organization, but he'sstill a person.
And this is the moment wheregrandpa gets his car keys taken
away.
PJ (39:08):
It's so sad.
Adam (39:09):
It's so incredibly sad.
PJ (39:12):
because he looks so forlorn and we got to post this shot
because
Adam (39:15):
Oh, yeah.
PJ (39:16):
he's coming to the realization I am not what I used
to be.
I really believed that thissword was going to give me magic
powers to destroy vehicles.
it didn't.
Adam (39:28):
It's like, it's not enough for Matt to defeat Venom here.
He also has to destroy Miles asa human being.
PJ (39:37):
Success! He has succeeded.
Adam (39:39):
He has indeed.
Well, despite Venom beingcompletely surrounded by masked
vehicles, somehow they let themget away.
And this is just a completedereliction of duty.
There is no excuse for this.
They could have arrested themall.
And Venom would be done.
But somehow they just sit thereand they watch Venom drive away.
PJ (40:00):
I wonder if this is part of the cruelty of Matt.
just dressed down Miles sobrutally, like, he wants him to
suffer.
Like, he's not even gonna givehim a clean defeat.
He just wants him to, like, stewin his own shit.
Adam (40:13):
that syncs up with how Matt behaves.
Now, Scott wants to know howMatt survived.
Because he saw him blow up andMatt explains that it was a
diversion to take Venom'sattention away from Scott and
Scott hugs Matt he's like, ohdad, but he must be very
confused by
PJ (40:30):
I feel like this is Matt covering for the fact he just
destroyed an old man.
Because Venom was not interestedin Scott after getting the
sword.
Like, he very clearly says,Mask, I'm going to destroy you.
I think there's some retconningMatt's doing here.
Like, oh yeah, I mean, I wantedto Venom from going after you,
(40:50):
Scott.
That's why I destroyed that oldman.
Adam (40:54):
now Bruce grabs the sword he says Scott, how do you like a
souvenir?
And hands it to Scott.
So Scott takes the sword andthen says he's found the best
use for it.
Cutting pizza! So here's myquestion.
Scott gets to keep a pricelessartifact?
PJ (41:09):
All I heard in my head was Indiana Jones screaming
That belongs in a museum!
So, I'll say this much.
No one knew about the artifactslocation previously.
So Matt's like, no one's gonnamiss it.
Adam (41:22):
Everyone thought I was a legend anyway, so now we've got
ourselves a golden sword.
PJ (41:25):
And I
Adam (41:25):
it to the
PJ (41:26):
those ruins for my mall, so I own that sword now.
Adam (41:30):
Well, everyone laughs.
And we cut to the more you know.
Scott drops an orange into thegarbage disposal, and T Bob
reaches for it, and, I mean,like, what the heck, guys?
Like, you just did the garbagedisposal one a few episodes ago.
is wrong with you?
PJ (41:47):
I couldn't figure out if this was such a major problem in
the 80s.
We had to have two to threelessons on this because if so,
the pileup that's happening inthat sink is incredible.
Like, it's absolutelyincredible.
Like,
Adam (42:00):
Well, he also says like, you never know when someone's
going to turn it on as if it'slike the final destination movie
where you never know, like, isit going to turn on?
Is it not?
I do have to say though, afterwatching these things, I am a
bit hesitant now when I knowthere's something in the garbage
disposal that I have to pullout.
I'm like.
Wait, is this, is it going toturn on?
So, it's working.
PJ (42:22):
disposals in the 80s had a tendency to turn themselves on.
Maybe this is like a dramaticflaw that we're unaware of
today.
Adam (42:31):
proper way to do it is to go to the fuse box, turn off the
circuit breaker for the kitchen,and then go pull things out of
the garbage disposal.
And then turn it back on.
Kids, here's how, here's thefuse box.
that's it.
That's it.
We learned the lesson again, andwe are out.
So let's grade the skills of ouragents, shall we?
(42:52):
So Gloria was chosen because ofher background in archeology.
PJ (42:57):
I mean, I, I could not figure, I mean, maybe she
recognized a route for the, youknow, fountain, but it's never
very explicit.
So D minus
Adam (43:07):
Okay.
PJ (43:07):
very generous with Gloria.
I never like, honestly, I neverliked giving Gloria or Hondo low
grades.
Cause I think so highly of them,but like, this is a
Adam (43:14):
Yeah.
PJ (43:15):
like I can't.
I can't justify any higher.
Adam (43:17):
Well, and I think that you gave her the D minus.
In relation to Hondo, And whatdo you give him there?
PJ (43:24):
that's an F that is
Adam (43:26):
Alright,
PJ (43:26):
F right there.
If I could give a lower grade, Iwould because the entire thing's
bullshit and Hondo, I'm sodisappointed
Adam (43:34):
and it's why you have to give Gloria a D minus.
Because at least she doesn'tmake stuff up.
About And then finally uh,Bruce, who was pre selected
because he was there.
PJ (43:47):
Yeah.
So he doesn't run off.
So, I guess pass,
Adam (43:50):
what was he even doing there?
Hanging with Matt?
PJ (43:52):
yeah, I mean, we've seen him kind of vacation with Matt,
Scott, and T Bob before, somaybe they're doing kind of
another, round of that,
Adam (44:00):
Yeah, yeah,
PJ (44:02):
so he doesn't run, so fine, you get a passing grade, I mean,
literally, it's a pass fail, soyou
Adam (44:07):
Alright, is this episode Pandapoo?
PJ (44:11):
Yes.
Adam (44:11):
Yes, we both agree with that.
Yes, it is a terrible, terribleepisode.
PJ (44:15):
So much, so much, man, the history is terrible.
There's stakes are poor.
Adam (44:20):
back to the namesake of this award, episode was about
Miles carving his face into thestone idols on Easter Island.
And the pandas were there asbasically human shields, animal
shields to prevent people fromstopping him doing that.
Those are the stakes for thisone.
(44:42):
The stakes are a sword with nopower,
PJ (44:45):
We've also talked about the fact that venom needs to be a
credible threat
Adam (44:49):
right?
PJ (44:50):
you know, we've seen credible threats like earthquake
machines, down comments youknow, giant caterpillars even,
here I end up feeling sorry formiles more than anything else.
Adam (45:02):
Yeah.
PJ (45:02):
where I am left.
finally, I sort of alluded tothis earlier.
This is pound for pound, reallylike, ace, a players across the
board for mask, you know,
Adam (45:11):
The best mask agents there are.
PJ (45:13):
Yeah.
They're wasted in this episode.
Adam (45:15):
Panda poo all around.
Okay, let's take a look at ourawards.
The Buddy Hawks Award.
What do you think?
PJ (45:22):
You know, this, this ended up turning into an honorable
mention, which was
Adam (45:26):
Mm hmm.
PJ (45:27):
for Caesar.
I did not think that would havebeen beat, but T Bob with the
Chinese food and cat connection,
Adam (45:33):
Yeah.
PJ (45:33):
that, trumped it.
and again, this is an episodelittered with like possibilities
here, but
Adam (45:38):
Mm hmm
PJ (45:39):
did it for me.
Adam (45:39):
Yeah, the t bob Chinese food alley cats thing is
unforgivable sometimes Sometimesin some of these we push the
envelope a little bit and wethink oh, yeah, but it was the
80s Like you and I talk aboutthis maybe afterwards.
Yeah, it was the 80s.
So maybe contextually it wasn'tseen as racist Even though we
know it clearly was.
(45:59):
This was at the time clearly aracist joke.
PJ (46:05):
Yeah,
Adam (46:06):
This is unforgivable.
So yes to T Bob, but a Thousandyes for the writer of the
episode.
PJ (46:14):
we're really racking up that Lifetime Achievement Award for
the writers.
Adam (46:18):
Oh boy Father of the Year Award
PJ (46:21):
You know, I was kind of torn on this.
I mean, it's kind of easy forthe Matt leaving Scott in Rome.
Adam (46:26):
Yeah.
PJ (46:26):
to me that Matt lying to Scott about why he did that
distraction,
Adam (46:30):
Yeah.
PJ (46:33):
because he clearly wanted to, like, embarrass Miles.
Adam (46:35):
I just, I do think Matt dropping Scott and T Bob off at
the hotel, it's standard.
It's
PJ (46:40):
off
Adam (46:40):
standard fare.
PJ (46:41):
off screen, they
Adam (46:42):
Yeah.
PJ (46:43):
like showing it this
Adam (46:44):
Yeah.
Uh, Slyrax Ragdoll Award?
PJ (46:46):
I think it's got to go to Scott following his doom with
Adam (46:49):
Mm hmm.
PJ (46:50):
crushing him.
Adam (46:50):
I do like Miles getting hit in the face with the tire,
though.
I
PJ (46:53):
that, yeah,
Adam (46:54):
mean, that one is uh, that's hardcore.
And he walks away without ascratch.
PJ (46:59):
that was like an honorable mention I had for that one,
which was like, Oh, I reallywant to give it to Miles for
breaking his neck that time.
Adam (47:06):
Notably, not a physical scratch on him, but tons of
emotional damage.
PJ (47:09):
He's destroyed.
Adam (47:10):
And uh, what do you think?
Any Roy Batty awards here?
PJ (47:13):
That T Bob is indeed referring to Talos, the mythical
bronze robot.
Adam (47:19):
huh.
PJ (47:19):
his desire to crush his enemies.
Adam (47:21):
I agree.
All I can think of at the Talosis Gigantor.
Okay, well that was episode 33.
Coming up is episode 34, Perilin Paris.
Buddy Hawks disguises himself asVenom Agent Dagger in order to
infiltrate Venom's secret basein Paris.
(47:42):
There, He uncovers Venom's planto find a Nazi doomsday machine.
And just a note for those of youwho are in Region 2 so over in
Europe this episode was titledPeril Under Paris.
So there you go.
More Nazis.
PJ (47:57):
I, I was shocked when I saw this episode and I feel like
this one tops the last episodewe saw with Nazis in terms of
just like, wow,
Adam (48:06):
I cannot wait.
But I will have to because fornow this podcast has to
transform and head back to HQ.
I am Adam Moore.
PJ (48:14):
And I am PJ
Adam (48:15):
Buh bye!
PJ (48:17):
bye.
The mobile armored podcast showis written, produced and edited.
Bye Adam Moore.
And PJ McNerney.
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