March 24, 2025 • 47 mins
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MASK and VENOM are back in the Outback of Australia…but don’t you worry, folks…this is serious this time…there won’t be any co-opting of local customs and spiritual practices like the last time we were here!
Oh wait…
V.E.N.O.M.’s uses a hologram machine to fool local people into thinking that floating rocks are driven by their rock gods, the Mimis, to reveal a treasure hidden within the sacred mountain, Uluru.
Matt, Bruce, Brad, Scott, and T-Bob stand ready to answer the question: Wait, what are Mimis?
With Matt and Bruce hot on Miles’s scheme and Brad teaching guitar to a family upset about his asking about rock gods, Scott and T-Bob climb Uluru. Only to then tumble down the mountain and have Scott and/or T-Bob be mistaken for the local people’s sky god (it’s a little confusing).
It all leads up to an exciting ending where Miles attempts to destroy the mountain with Scott and T-Bob trapped inside and Brad uses Hocus Pocus to add a new dimension to the legends of the local people with a giant rock monster!
Join Adam Moore and PJ McNerney for an adventure Down Under, complete with thrills, chills, and some questionable interpretations of local cultures on the Mobile Armored Podcast Show!!!
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Adam (00:13):
Welcome to the Mobile Armored Podcast show.
The podcast that transforms intoan Angry Rock monster.
My name is Adam Moore, alongsidemy co-host and best friend PJ
McNerney.
How's it going, pj?
PJ (00:28):
I'm good, man.
I've been doing a lot ofreflection.
I think there's probably a, awhole host of people out there
that think that we hate.
This cartoon show.
This is episode 37, not countingsome of our special
interstitials.
So don't do 37 episodes unlessone of two things are true, you
either are psychotic or you loveit.
Adam (00:50):
Okay.
PJ (00:50):
to our wives, we're a bit of both.
but I understand like, you know,we get down on these episodes.
and so I do think we could becognizant of being, kinder, a
little, uh, a little moreforgiving.
won't be this episode.
won't be this episode to besure.
So like, If you're hoping forthat to start now, I'm sorry,
Adam (01:08):
Look.
let me remind folks who haven'tbeen along for the whole entire
ride, we started this podcastbecause we loved the toys as
kids.
We loved the show as kids.
And then we took another look atit as adult parents and realized
there's a lot to talk about herebecause there's a lot of stuff
(01:29):
that doesn't add up.
Will we be kinder and gentler?
Maybe you will be, but I stillhave significant issues with
this show.
And I think we have to be okaywith having problems with the
show.
PJ (01:41):
Just because you and I have severe father abandonment issues
doesn't mean we have to keepprojecting them over and over
again onto Matt because heabandons his son all the time.
Adam (01:53):
I think that is a big part of it.
I really do.
I definitely think that is amajor part of the issues that we
have with the show, but I thinkit's okay
PJ (02:01):
Yeah.
Adam (02:02):
love something and also to understand that it is flawed
deeply so at times, and it'sokay to hold those two things in
your mind and in your heart.
PJ (02:13):
We
Adam (02:13):
all right.
PJ (02:14):
be mindful about how critical we are about parenting
and racism and all the otherthings that we'd like to touch
upon.
So what's this episode about,Adam?
Adam (02:24):
Well, it's called the Sacred Rock, PJ Venom Frightens,
I can't even say it.
Having said all that about beingkinder and gentler, episode 37,
venom frightens a tribe ofAustralian aborigines who
believe their God Mimi is angrywith them.
When Tbo makes an appearance,the tribe thinks he is their
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deity.
So nothing racist about that atall.
We open on Ayers Rock in theAustralian Outback.
Now we're gonna have to diveinto a history corner right off
the bat because today we referto Ayers Rock as Uluru.
(03:10):
What I call this a Buddy Hawksnomination.
like, from today's viewpoint, Iwould, but pj you're gonna dive
into History Corner and unpackthis a little bit.
PJ (03:19):
Yeah.
And it's, uh, I, it's,
Adam (03:21):
I am going to Buddy Hawks you during your history corner,
PJ (03:27):
I think that's fair because, uh,
Adam (03:29):
so go ahead.
PJ (03:30):
I'm effectively, I, I feel like I'm now in the Imperialism
Defense Award at this point intime, because I wanna just point
out historically, in 1985, thename hadn't been reverted to its
native name.
Adam (03:46):
that's right.
Because in your original notesfor this episode, you say it had
not yet had its name updated
PJ (03:52):
know, I
Adam (03:53):
Uluru.
It's always been called Uluru.
PJ (03:56):
I'll take my buddy Hawks for the episode then.
I think it was like 1831 orsomething like that.
It was like a
Adam (04:02):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:03):
this rock looks awesome.
We're gonna name it Ayers Rock.
the, dual naming of it, withAyers Rock and Uluru, came into
effect in 1993.
So
Adam (04:13):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:15):
despite the fact it is a reminder of British imperialism,
it would've been called AyersRock at the time.
So, now this is important.
The people do not.
Climb Uluru due to its culturaland religious significance.
Adam (04:32):
Right?
PJ (04:33):
the Prime Minister of Australia told them they'd hand
back the land title to the localpeople, and they would prevent
people from climbing Uluru
Adam (04:42):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:42):
pretty quick.
Mm-hmm.
and it's only as of 2017 thatclimbing's now forbidden.
So any climbing of Uluru isn'taffront to the people there.
So just thank God no one climbsit.
This episode, I hope
Adam (04:58):
at any rate, not climbing the rock, fortunately are two
rich American tourists who arethere, and the wife says it's
the biggest rock in the world.
And the husband says, Mildred, Ithought the biggest rock in the
world was on your wedding ring.
Americans.
PJ (05:18):
It's such a funny, weird exchange and I hope kids loved
it.
love that they have this shot offraming the tribe and I was
reminded of that line fromZoolander, where it's like,
don't some aboriginal tribesbelieve that a photo steals part
of your spirit?
I did look this up.
And so right now, this Americanjust kind of randomly taking a
(05:38):
photo is taking some of theirsouls.
Adam (05:41):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, and speaking ofthem, the tribes people, they're
showing, look, nothing like theindigenous Australians.
Like I noted in a previousAustralian episode.
they don't necessarily dress inthis cliche native attire.
It looks like something out ofSouth America.
It looks like very littleresearch went into this at all.
(06:03):
skin tone looks off, and again,I mean, the majority of
indigenous Australians todaylive in.
Modern places and wear typicalmodern clothes.
maybe in 85 it was different,but I don't think so.
So Buddy Hawks all over theplace.
and maybe for me, and maybe foryou as well, PJ, and maybe for
(06:25):
this whole episode of thepodcast to get itself a Buddy
Hawks nomination,
PJ (06:29):
I would object.
I did a little research and Isaw that the writers,
extensively watched the movieCrocodile Dundee
Adam (06:36):
Uhhuh.
PJ (06:36):
as a way to research for
Adam (06:39):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (06:40):
of this episode.
So.
Adam (06:41):
Well, the indigenous Australians say, speak to us
spirits of the rock.
We have come to hear yourwisdom.
And the American tries to take apicture of them Then some of the
rocks start glowing and starthovering.
Mildred asks, did you get thepicture?
Harry?
Harry?
And the husband?
Seems like he's in a trance.
PJ (07:02):
he does
Adam (07:03):
Well then we cut to a camera shop We find out it's
Alice Springs.
Matt Scott and t Bob are inthere.
Matt's buying some film for hiscamera, but the American couple
that we saw in the beginning arethere as well, and they're
trying to get their photosdeveloped, they're overexposed.
the husband says, now no onewill believe.
We saw those dancing rocks Mattsays, dancing rocks.
(07:26):
And suddenly his unusualsituations, radar goes off.
PJ (07:31):
I had a question for you, Adam.
Doesn't Matt ever believe thatsome people could just be drunk
or on drugs?
if you listen to any random shityou might hear in the world, are
you gonna jump at everyopportunity?
Adam (07:44):
Well, you never know if Matt is also drunk or on drugs
PJ (07:49):
Brad is here this episode, so.
Adam (07:51):
Exactly.
Well, a very badly accentedAustralian shopkeeper says,
sounds like the legend of theMimi, the Aborigines believe a
magic spirit called the Mimi canmove in and out of solid rock.
And for kind of no reasonwhatsoever, because we never see
this again.
This dreamscape unfolds and wesee some kind of a nightmare of
(08:17):
a creature.
It's like, tiny little bitsailor moon, but wearing pink.
Leotards, and pants, and it'sgot weird flowing hair
PJ (08:28):
it really is a Brad Turner drug trip right here.
Adam (08:32):
It absolutely is a Brad Turner drug trip
PJ (08:34):
got speckled stuff in the background where it's yellow and
blue and all these colors mixedtogether, and these dancing,
fairy like creatures.
It's almost like a humanoid catthat's jumping
Adam (08:46):
that, yeah, but very dead looking eyes, but a smile.
so I did some research here,mimis are real well, are they
real?
Are they not real?
We don't know.
But the indigenous Australians,uh, comes from their folklore.
They're fairy like beings.
they're described as havingextremely thin and elongated
bodies, so thin as to be indanger of breaking in case of
(09:09):
high wind.
And to avoid this, they usuallyspend most of their time living
in rock crevices.
which is nothing like what thisimage that appears on screen is.
This is not a thin, frighteningcreature.
This is, again, some sort ofanime thing.
some other things you might liketo know about the Mimi.
(09:30):
Uh, they made the First Rockpaintings before the indigenous
Australians first came toNorthern Australia, and the Mimi
taught them how to paint and howto hunt and how to cook kangaroo
meat, which is the finest ofmeat in the Outback.
At the end of the day though, tokeep in mind the Mimis are
considered to be mischievous,but generally harmless.
PJ (09:49):
Okay, so Mimis are basically culinary Australian leprechauns
without the gold and alcohol
Adam (09:58):
Yes, very much so.
PJ (09:59):
I can say
Adam (10:00):
Yep.
Say that
PJ (10:01):
Irish.
Adam (10:04):
Well, it turns out that this isn't the first time in the
past few days that someone hascome to this Photoshop and
claimed to see the Mimi, andMatt asks the guy if he can take
the Americans photos that theyleft behind.
PJ (10:19):
this is like a moment.
I was like, wait, so Matt's justgonna take someone else's photos
What if there's like adultphoto, like this is a married
couple, you don't know what'sgonna be in there.
Matt, like,
Adam (10:29):
Did he pay for them?
Did anyone pay for these photos?
PJ (10:32):
I'm imagining Matt's gonna pay for them or buy the shop,
but like, I don't know, if thatcouple made them develop it and
then not pay for it, that's ashitty thing to do.
So
Adam (10:44):
Typical American tourists.
we cut to Thunder, hawk andCondor parked in the middle of a
dirt road.
Matt, Bruce and Brad are allthere and they're listening to
the computer, analyze thephotos, it turns out during the
scene that Matt knows thatMayhem is in Australia for some
reason.
So once again, Matt bringing hiskid on a trip where a terrorist
(11:09):
group is known to be operating.
PJ (11:10):
I've thought about what the exchange would be like where
Matt says to Gloria, Hey,Gloria, can you take Scott?
And it's like, what?
So you and Bruce and Brad canhave a boys trip to Australia?
No, thank you.
I've got a race in F1.
Adam (11:23):
Right.
PJ (11:23):
a different note now that we know that Matt is there to kind
of snoop out Venom, gives a tinybit more to that Dancing Rocks
thing, like you're kind of onthe listen out for anything
weird.
'cause that's what
Adam (11:38):
Right.
Well done.
Way to defend Matt's decisionshere.
Matt instructs Brad to staybehind in Alice Springs and find
out what he can from the localAborigines.
Meanwhile, he says, Bruce and Iare going to the Rock.
PJ (11:53):
You're going to see Dwayne Johnson,
Adam (11:55):
I thought that every time they mentioned the Rock in this
episode, I kept on thinking it'sthe Rock.
What's he doing in Australia?
PJ (12:04):
the other thing that came to my mind was like Sean Connery,
like the rock
Adam (12:11):
You gonna see a movie right now, bro, why can't I come
with you?
PJ (12:16):
got out of, yeah.
Adam (12:17):
Matt invites Scott to come along with him because he'll be
safer with him.
It's a strange note of concernfrom Matt regarding his child.
PJ (12:24):
I'm glad he's showing concern, like the action he's
taking to show concern may notbe the best.
hey, let me bring you to a sitewhere there may be terrorists,
but let's give him credit.
also, he knows what happenedlast time he left Scott with
Brad.
Brad left him on the side ofthat mountain during
Adam (12:41):
Right,
PJ (12:41):
and priest affair Brad might leave him in the middle of the
outback.
Hey man, can you walk back toSydney from here?
Adam (12:49):
we cut to venom.
They're in a tent in the outbackMiles is tinkering with a very
typical venom machine.
Turns out this one createsholograms.
he explains, to his team thatthe natives think the holograms
are their quote unquote rockgods.
Sly says, give me five minuteswith the Aborigines and I'll
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scare them into telling useverything.
And he has a point because thelast time we were in Australia,
it worked.
He dressed up as that nativepriest and warned them that the
wind gods were angry.
And that's where the turbinemachine came and like kidnapped
all the locals, right?
PJ (13:27):
I was wondering if this was a subtle callback.
'cause if it was it's kind ofneat.
Adam (13:31):
And then we have this little, interlude where, miles
tells Sly that he's as dumb asCliff, to which Cliff says,
yeah, you are as dumb as me,
PJ (13:40):
when do we get the group therapy session together?
These folks, there's so muchlike hatred, like this is not a
healthy working environment byany stretch.
Adam (13:48):
agreed.
But then Cliff has a good idea,right?
He says, why not use Switchbladeand cover it with the hologram
Sky Gods are more sacred thanEarth Gods
PJ (13:56):
I was like, wow, a really good point.
That big brain cliff that's a
Adam (14:01):
check.
PJ (14:02):
idea.
Adam (14:03):
Miles's response is, my method has worked so far.
I'm not changing anything now.
PJ (14:07):
I this Miles can never admit that Cliff is on point about
something.
Adam (14:13):
No.
And also I don't see how it'sworked so far, and I'm gonna
touch on that when we get to apoint a little bit later in the
episode.
Brad arrives at a localindigenous village and he says,
this should be a piece of cake.
All I have to do is turn on myever loving charm.
He approaches some villagerssitting in a circle and he says,
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hi there.
How's it going?
My name is Brad.
Do you know anything about theMimi?
It's almost like he doesn'tspeak English and is reading out
of a guidebook.
How is it going?
My name is Brad.
Do you know anything about theMimi?
Well, all the women andchildren, they freak out and
(14:55):
start crying and then he saysmaybe a song will calm them.
And doesn't he pull a guitaroutta nowhere in that moment?
PJ (15:02):
hammer space man, all the way.
He like pulls a
Adam (15:05):
Yeah.
Outta nowhere.
Yep.
PJ (15:07):
and he is ready to like, just jam with these guys.
Adam (15:09):
Yeah.
and then this big guy comes outand confronts Brad and says, in
broken English, why you talkabout Mimi?
And Brad's response is, I don'tthink I know that song.
PJ (15:21):
couple questions, man.
the dude who comes out, why ishe shirtless?
Adam (15:26):
Yeah, because he is wearing dress pants.
Like he's wearing a normal pairof slacks but just not wearing a
shirt.
PJ (15:32):
Yeah.
Um, also, is it forbidden totalk about maybe like that They
didn't really establish thatvery well.
finally, I thought a betterthing for the guy to say because
this random white dude isupsetting his family is to be
like, who the fuck are you?
Why are you approaching my wifeand kids randomly and bothering
them?
(15:54):
I was just like, ah, maybe likeBrad reminds him of that sort of
cool youth pastor that's doing amissionary trip.
Adam (16:00):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (16:00):
And I'm not saying Adam, that Brad looks Mormon here, but
Adam (16:04):
Yeah.
PJ (16:04):
in shirt do.
Adam (16:06):
Which could open up a whole new dimension on who Brad
Turner is.
He is a Mormon rock star whogoes from town to town on
missionary trips.
Now that's a cartoon show rightthere.
PJ (16:19):
we go.
Adam (16:20):
So Thunder, Hawk and Rhino, they arrive at Uluru to
find the indigenous Australiansworshiping the Rock.
And all of this that happenshere is worthy of Buddy Hawk's
nominations.
PJ (16:31):
What are you saying?
don't natives worship rocks inthe outback.
Adam (16:35):
I just don't know, like if on their hands and knees like
bowing to it, spouting what isclearly gibberish, I'll play it
right now so you can hear whatit is they're worshiping.
that is gibberish.
That's not actually
PJ (16:54):
Adam.
Adam (16:54):
any words.
PJ (16:55):
That's because before Brad and the Mormon missionaries came
out, there was Catholicmissionaries that came out.
Adam (17:01):
So it's Latin.
PJ (17:02):
It's Latin.
Adam (17:05):
Understood.
PJ (17:06):
And I can
Adam (17:06):
Got it.
PJ (17:07):
'cause I was raised Catholic.
So,
Adam (17:09):
You're getting away with a lot McNerney.
This episode,
PJ (17:12):
uh, I'm driving a bus through kindness.
Adam (17:17):
uh, T VB throws a boomerang.
He runs away from it and thenhits a tree causing Matt, Bruce
and Scott to all burst outlaughing.
So we have a great Roy Battynomination for making fun of Tvo
when he is in pain.
PJ (17:31):
It really is.
It's like, Hey man, I was justtrying to have some fun here.
I had two questions though aboutthis, Adam.
So a boomerang is a weapon, likeit's a,
Adam (17:42):
Yep.
PJ (17:42):
we play with it as a toy here in the us but it's a weapon
used to hunt, right?
Adam (17:47):
Yeah.
PJ (17:47):
why would TBO think it's a good idea to use a weapon, with
these natives here?
Like what if he accidentallyhits one of them?
Adam (17:55):
What if he's trying to get more lethal?
PJ (17:58):
yeah, this maybe you're right.
This is the Roy Batty he'spracticing.
Adam (18:02):
exactly.
what?
PJ (18:04):
though for you is
Adam (18:05):
Yeah,
PJ (18:06):
aren't they trying to stay hidden at the same time?
Adam (18:09):
I know, right?
At least they have to beheckling quietly
PJ (18:13):
Yeah.
Adam (18:14):
themselves.
well, Matt and Bruce go off toinvestigate and, Matt, tells
Scott to stay here.
So what does Scott do?
He decides to climb Uluru.
PJ (18:25):
No, Scott, that's sacrilege.
Adam (18:27):
He is just climbing up, no ropes, no nothing, just doing
his thing.
Well, back to Bruce and Matt.
they are, poking out from behinda corner there, and Bruce says,
sounds like the Mimi Show isabout to begin.
And Matt says, then let's grabourselves some front row seats.
PJ (18:44):
It's like Bruce the Mimi show.
Really?
Adam (18:47):
I'm Bruce got some buddy Hawks for me right there.
Like
PJ (18:50):
That is a
Adam (18:51):
that's, you know, a minor one for Matt for playing along
with it.
PJ (18:56):
Yeah.
Adam (18:56):
well, Matt and Bruce witnessed the glowing rocks and
Bruce says, fish can swim,flowers can bloom.
However, a dancing rock has noleg to stand on.
it's a sadism indeed.
it makes no sense whatsoever
PJ (19:13):
what information did we learn from Bruce at this point
in time?
did that actually advance or addanything?
I was at least glad Matt didn'texplain that back to Bruce.
normally you'd need Scott orBrad or Dusty or pick a name to
be like, I don't know whatyou're talking about.
And then Matt would have to likeexplain it.
I mean, I have expected to belike, Matt, Bruce, you're right.
(19:36):
Rocks can't dance without legsthat's fundamentally all you get
out of that.
Adam (19:41):
Yep.
But from this, Matt makes astunning leap of logic.
He says, only one person couldbe behind this Miles mayhem.
PJ (19:52):
Or aliens or other mystical shit.
You've seen both of those thingsin the past, man.
Adam (19:58):
meanwhile, well, on their way to the top of the 1100 foot
Uluru t Bobb, stumbles and fallsdown dragging Scott with him.
PJ (20:08):
The shot is awesome.
Like how frightened they are.
Adam (20:12):
Yeah.
Uh, petrified.
And he should be because Scottis on his way to his death.
Makes me ask you, pj, what'sgonna happen.
PJ (20:22):
I don't know.
I dunno.
Adam (20:25):
We'll find out after these messages
Come on, Jeebop.
Mask will be right back.
Oh, boy.
Back to mask.
and we are back When we left you Scott and t Bobb were
plummeting to their doom fromsomewhere on the 1100 foot high
Uluru.
I don't know really what to sayabout, this It was a big moment
(20:48):
in my childhood watchingcartoons.
It was up there with OptimusPrime's death to see Scott, this
character that I reallyidentified so much with die.
Um.
PJ (20:59):
his death or was it when he ripped his own heart out and
gave it to Bruce and said, thematrix is yours now?
Like, which, which part was likethe most devastating for you?
Adam (21:17):
That'd be so great.
Like if Tbo has the optimistprime mo moment and he pulls
like some panda poo out of histill all are won.
Scott and t Bobb survive.
Surprise, surprise.
But the indigenous Australiansspot, t Bobb and Scott sliding
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down the rock and they proclaimit to be the sky God.
PJ (21:42):
And I was like, wait, what?
is this the sign?
Like someone dirt sliding downsacred because it's also a bit
confusing and it doesn't get anyless confusing deeper into the
episode.
'cause either they think that tbob's a God yet again,
Adam (22:01):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (22:01):
or which is what the tagline said.
Or they think this sliding whitekid is a God.
either way, Scott's pants areripped the shit
Adam (22:11):
If ever a shot of a rip in someone's pants with the
underwear showing was warrantedin the show, this was it.
Having said that, I'm very gladthey did not do that.
PJ (22:22):
I hate to think they talked about it.
We're like, no, we probably shThat's, that's too far.
Adam (22:26):
Uh, t Bobb and Scott break their fall on top of Venom's
tent damaging the hologrammachine, and Miles is very
upset.
He says, just when theAborigines were ready to tell me
what I wanted to know, I'll haveto think of another method.
And I just thought that tortureand or kidnapping probably works
just fine.
PJ (22:44):
They do, but that wrangles miles' flare for the dramatic
man.
Like, you know,
Adam (22:50):
it's so true.
He's a showman at heart.
Well, the indigenousAustralians.
Say at last, the rock hasbrought us the sky, God, he has
come on a shining chariot.
We take him to the temple andnone of this sounds like the
writers have an accurateunderstanding of the culture and
practices of the indigenousAustralians.
PJ (23:10):
Wait, they don't have temples.
Adam (23:12):
I don't believe so.
I also have not researched it.
Why don't I do that?
PJ (23:19):
Okay.
Mask will be right back, and sowill Venom.
Now back to math.
Adam (23:25):
I wanna, get back to you with the results of my in-depth
research that I just did.
The indigenous Australians donot have temples.
They have sacred sites.
PJ (23:34):
Thank you.
I appreciate that because,'causethey crowd around tbo and they
name it in a second, but I feellike it's kind of ambiguous in
the moment it gets a little bitweird because for a second
there, Adam, it seems that TBOis actually the sky God that
they're crowding around.
Adam (23:53):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (23:53):
question to you, a common set of aliens that visited the
Incans and the indigenousAustralians that look like tbo?
And if so, did Scottunconsciously create tbo in
their likeness?
And if so, is it possible thatTBO is in the likeness of the
aliens from the starch chariotepisode, which is why he and
Scott were saved?
Is such a thing even possible?
(24:15):
Yes, it is.
Adam (24:19):
Now we go to Venom and man, there's this very confusing
exchange between Miles and theindigenous Australians.
And I mentioned this a littlebit earlier.
it's as if there was some setupabout Miles's connection with
the locals that was cut from theepisode.
So the exchange is, your weakgods have fled from the sky.
God, now you must flee from thevillage.
(24:41):
And mayhem says we will leavepeacefully.
PJ (24:44):
I think you're right.
I think there was some setupthat this is trying to pay off,
which is unfortunate not to have
Adam (24:50):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (24:52):
you know, how is Miles interacting with these guys?
what is the deal?
They have, like Miles is goingto bring them the presence of
the Mimi and then they will.
Take him to their treasures.
It's, it would
Adam (25:05):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (25:06):
awesome to have that in there rather than us backfilling
it.
Adam (25:09):
Yeah.
As much as I don't want toencourage him, it actually
would've worked a lot better ifSly had dressed up as some sort
of a priest or, Aboriginalspirit to speak directly to them
or as their sky God, because itdoesn't make any sense, like how
Miles was interacting with,like, did he show up and say,
the Mimi are going to appear onthe rock and they're gonna do
(25:32):
bad things unless you tell methis information.
and then he's been doing it overand over again, so it clearly
actually hasn't been working.
Well, meanwhile, Matt and Brucetouched base with Brad, who has
made inroads in the indigenousvillage by teaching them how to
play guitar.
And I will point out again thatthis is not how indigenous
(25:53):
Australians dress or live, Yougot thatch roof huts.
I mean, first of all, there'sone kid, can we post this
picture on socials as well?
It's like one of these things isnot like the other, it's like
kind of indigenous person andbaby kind of indigenous kid and
then white girl.
PJ (26:15):
Yeah.
what do we got going on here?
Huh?
Adam (26:17):
Which at least she's wearing modern clothing.
PJ (26:20):
it's true.
We did have that theory lasttime in Australia that we were
not actually visiting indigenouspeople.
We were visiting with whitepeople who were dressing up as
what they thought wereindigenous people, and acting
like they thought wereindigenous people in some sort
of weird, recreation.
So I don't know if they have theequivalent of Refa, for
(26:44):
indigenous people in Australia,but maybe that's what this is.
He's not actually in a, a nativevillage.
It's uh, you know, abig fair orwhatever.
Adam (26:53):
that's the buddy Hawks right there for you, pal.
PJ (26:55):
Thank you.
I'm not saying it's right, I'mjust saying that's what these
people are doing.
Adam (27:02):
Right.
No, I understand.
PJ (27:04):
Uh, and I had a question.
Are these the faces of peoplethat are so happy to learn how
to play guitar or are theyactually stoned?
which is the more likely rootBrad took here to win these
people over?
I,
Adam (27:15):
Or is all of this a drug-induced hallucination?
In Brad's mind, he's actuallynot in a village with any
people.
He's wandering around theoutback aimlessly playing
guitar.
PJ (27:29):
No, he's playing air guitar.
He didn't even bring it withhim.
How did he like pull it out fromnowhere?
Adam (27:38):
So, Brad reveals that he learned about the lost shrine of
a bore.
It was supposed to be an opalmind.
The prehistoric aboriginesturned into a temple, but it's
just a legend.
And guess where you'll find theshrine inside Ayers Rock.
AKA Uluru?
PJ (27:57):
Okay, so something just occurred to me.
We gotta stop right here for asecond.
I wanna parse this.
So there was an opal mine, theprehistoric aborigines dug They
formed a mining company and dugup opals.
And then the later prehistoricaborigines who were later than
(28:17):
the prehistoric prehistoricaborigines turned that mine a
temple.
Adam (28:24):
Uhhuh.
PJ (28:24):
I just wanna make sure I understand the order of
operations here, that it wasfirst of mine and then a temple.
Adam (28:31):
we don't know if it was the prehistoric aborigines who
built the mine.
All we know is that they turneda mine into a temple.
So is it possible visitors fromanother planet mined Uluru?
PJ (28:48):
And if so, did they look like tbo?
Adam (28:54):
Well, that's the setup folks.
There's a shrine inside Uluru
PJ (28:59):
Which is
Adam (28:59):
to the sky.
God, a former mine according tothe mask computer.
Over the years, the locals,meaning the, indigenous
Australians have storedtreasures in the temple as
offerings to the sky God, andthey believe that his return
will bring them eternalprosperity.
Matt instructs Brad to meet upwith them fast.
(29:22):
He's concerned that Scott ismixed up in this somehow, and
Matt says we've got to find thembefore mayhem does.
PJ (29:29):
Uh, slight
Adam (29:30):
So,
PJ (29:30):
corner here.
this is all bullshit.
there is no a bore, as far as Ican tell, there's no mine or
temple or sacred site
Adam (29:39):
No.
PJ (29:40):
Uluru.
Uluru is the sacred site.
Adam (29:44):
Meanwhile, Scott and t Bobb are being carried on a
pagoda type thing by the localsand brought inside Uluru, the
indigenous leader blows a horn.
That sounds like an elephant.
What the heck?
Like not even trying it is anelephant sound effect that they
just threw in there'cause theydidn't have anything else better
(30:06):
to do.
And then after blowing the horn,a statue moves aside, revealing.
The entrance to the temple.
Now inside this temple, it'sfilled with all kinds of
treasure.
And the indigenous leader says,we give you all these priceless
treasures.
And Scott's about to tell themlike, no, it's okay.
I don't need it.
But then Tbo cuts him off andsays, priceless treasures might
(30:29):
come in handy sometime.
And I love how TBOs become likea true tracker.
PJ (30:34):
he is embraced it, man.
He's like, oh,
Adam (30:36):
Yeah,
PJ (30:37):
money
Adam (30:38):
I know.
so the leader says, this templeshall be the sky, God's home
forever.
And Tbo is just like throwing inthe gems and treasures.
And he says, I'm rich.
Look again.
This has happened before.
Does he not know that Matt's abillionaire?
PJ (30:52):
is it because like this could be TBOs.
Matt doesn't actually share hismoney.
This is actually, oh, this canbe mine
Adam (31:00):
Is t bobb like an indentured servant?
And this would buy him out ofhis robotic servitude from the
tracker family?
Well, the, uh, the indigenousAustralians closed the temple
door trapping Scott and t bobbinside.
PJ (31:15):
I was like, whoa, what is going on here?
realistically, the next timethey reopen that door, Scott
will be dead.
Dead.
Like either he will have run outof oxygen or starved,
Adam (31:28):
sky gods don't starve.
they don't require sustenance orair.
PJ (31:32):
So what are they gonna think?
when they reopen the door, it'slike, oh man, I guess he was
just a white kid.
it's not a sky god after all.
Adam (31:41):
Quick.
Hide them.
You know, what happens whenwhite kids die out here,
PJ (31:46):
let's feed him to the hogs like Dusty did last episode.
Adam (31:50):
but also where'd they get all these treasures from?
Like, where did all the pearlsand the diamonds and the
emeralds, where did it all comefrom?
Have they been stealing fromtourists or like, mean,
PJ (32:04):
possible that ancient aliens came and visited and gave them
these trinkets as a way tosignify they were coming back?
Adam (32:12):
Yeah, man.
I think it's a great question.
Where did all this stuff comefrom?
Matt and Bruce are now lookingfor Scott and t Bob, and Matt is
super concerned that they triedto climb, he's rock.
This by the way, is based onwhere he found the boomerang.
So we found the boomerang on theground and said, Hmm, based on
this, they must have tried toclimb ays rock.
(32:35):
what a Leap in logic.
PJ (32:36):
Do you think the reason he knew it was the same boomerang
is'cause the price tag was stillon the back, wherever he got it
from, because otherwise there'sa lot of boomerangs, presumably
that would be hanging aroundhere,
Adam (32:47):
Pj, do you think Uluru is just strewn with abandoned
boomerangs?
PJ (32:53):
thrown by white people after climbing it.
Yes.
Adam (32:56):
Just littered.
Littered with boomerangs.
That's why they had to banpeople from climbing Uluru.
'cause they would climb up andtoss boomerangs off.
Uh, well, Matt says I shouldn'thave left them alone.
You think?
PJ (33:13):
I think we should back up to your earlier point about
bringing a kid into a countrywith a known and active
terrorist threat.
Adam (33:19):
Yeah.
Should have left him at homewith a nanny.
But anyways, Bruce says, Hey,hang in there.
We'll find them.
And maybe they can help us.
And Bruce nods to the locals Uh,meanwhile, miles, sly and Cliff
are gathered around Switchblade.
Cliff says There's no temple,just a cave entrance, and Miles
(33:41):
admonishes him.
Like, don't you think the caveentrance could be the way into
the temple?
there's some interplay betweenSly and Cliff about Cliff's lack
of intelligence.
Miles does need to treat thembetter as a boss, but he also
needs to get better employees.
PJ (33:55):
He
Adam (33:56):
Let's be honest.
PJ (33:56):
But let me ask you this question,'cause it just occurred
to me, to Cliff's Point, howmany temples do you know are in
caves?
And if you say the one from thelast crusade, that's the only
one you get.
So how many temples are youaware of?
Basically just cave entrances.
Cliff might be like, look, it'sa cave.
It's not a temple.
Adam (34:16):
Based on the mask series, many temples appeared or lost
cities
PJ (34:21):
Touche,
Adam (34:22):
appear to be in caves.
PJ (34:23):
you win, sir, you win.
Also, where's the self-esteem ofSly and Cliff at, at this point
in time that they take this kindof brutalization?
'cause it's bad.
Adam (34:33):
Yeah, they've been beat down for sure.
Miles tells them.
After belittling them, we've gotwork to do.
We're gonna blast our way intoAyers Rock, which right on
venom, back to your old ways ofblowing holes into mountains to
get in.
meanwhile, Matt goes to theindigenous leader and shows him
(34:53):
a picture of Scott and theleader says the sky, God, but
you have come too late toworship him.
We have sealed him forever inthe rock, and Matt says, you
must release the boy.
He isn't the sky God.
He's my son.
PJ (35:06):
Okay.
So I'm a little bit troubled bythis.
'cause again, the tagline saythat TBOs
Adam (35:13):
Yeah.
PJ (35:13):
God, I.
Adam (35:14):
Right?
PJ (35:14):
now, the white boy has become the God.
So once again, the criteria forbecoming the sky God is to slide
down Uluru on
Adam (35:25):
Yeah.
PJ (35:27):
I really think this is like a troublesome trope of the white
person coming in to become theleader
Adam (35:32):
white.
PJ (35:33):
or
Adam (35:33):
Yeah.
PJ (35:33):
of the indigenous tribe.
Adam (35:35):
Quite literally the white savior
PJ (35:37):
Exactly.
Adam (35:39):
now Switchblade shows up and again, standard procedure
for venom just opens fire onUluru.
PJ (35:45):
they're a terrorist organization, so
Adam (35:47):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (35:48):
I'll get behind on this one.
Like this might be a standard
Adam (35:50):
Yeah,
PJ (35:51):
but like they don't give a rat's ass.
Like they're just gonna destroystuff
Adam (35:53):
A boulder from above falls and crushes Thunder Hawk, and,
you know, again, back toboulders as the preferred weapon
of venom.
Hooray.
PJ (36:01):
effective.
Adam (36:02):
we're back.
Baby.
Uh, thunder Hawk is so damagedthat Matt and Bruce can't even
get to their masks.
this is actually a really cooltwist in the episode.
PJ (36:13):
I agree.
It was so cool in so many waysbecause you don't have Thunder
Hawk, you don't have theirmasks.
to me it was just such adisappointment that we don't get
to play it out even further.
actually, what just occurred tome is interesting is that Mask
knows that Venom is there.
Venom actually doesn't know thatmask is there this entire
episode.
Adam (36:34):
Oh, that's true.
That's a great point.
They have not even identifiedmasks yet.
PJ (36:37):
Yeah.
We didn't have
Adam (36:38):
Excellent point,
PJ (36:39):
battle.
Bruce and Matt, despite theirloud laughing, have, managed to
evade venom.
So, I mean, they actually areoperating in the shadows at this
point in time.
Adam (36:48):
now they get in touch with Brad, and he's still 10 miles
away, but he uses condors like,you know, super speed mach one
ability to break the soundbarrier on the ground and get to
them right away.
We've seen this before, haven'twe?
PJ (37:03):
Yeah, it's a cool recall of a power.
and they didn't make a point tobe like, ah, I'm using super
speed.
But they just, used theanimation.
It was like, oh, nice
Adam (37:10):
Right?
Brad arrives and he creates ahologram of Uluru transforming
into a giant rock monster, whichscares venom away, and then
hilariously, he turns the rockmonster on the indigenous
Australians and says, releasethe sky, God from the temple.
(37:30):
He has missions to perform inother places.
Release him.
Now I command you, and I justlove that Brad's best play here
in his mind is to scare thesimple people.
PJ (37:47):
that's a good point.
so now they believe in the Mimieven more,
Adam (37:51):
exactly.
PJ (37:52):
let's, add an additional aspect to their religion.
Adam (37:56):
He's violated the prime directive by adding new chapters
to their ancient beliefs.
PJ (38:04):
yeah, because, because, uh, MASK has done a great job of not
violating the prime directivewith any
Adam (38:10):
Yeah.
PJ (38:10):
they've encountered.
Adam (38:14):
Well, Scott and t Bobb are released and Scott says, dad,
we're okay.
And t Bobb says, and in a newincome tax bracket, so first no
kid gets that joke.
And two, Matt's a billionaire.
So no matter what, treasuretreasures in there, assuming
they're keeping it by what Tbosaid, it's not going to impact
(38:36):
Matt's taxes.
So just wanna put that outthere.
PJ (38:41):
Also, Matt doesn't pay taxes.
Adam (38:44):
That is very true as well.
one of the, uh, indigenouspeople says, my people are happy
knowing that the giant Mimisleeps inside the rock.
So the indigenous leader takesthe treasure back from T Bobb to
return it to the temple.
T Bobb asked Scott to loan him anickel and everyone laughs.
PJ (39:06):
So I wanna be very clear.
T Bob's disappointed because hewas hoping to steal their
treasures despite being awash inwealth.
Like he
Adam (39:17):
yeah,
PJ (39:18):
more.
Adam (39:18):
yeah.
And also, what did he need thenickel for?
That's, that's just.
Well, uproarious laughter fadeto black and we cut to the more,
you know, Scott is looking forhis comb and t Bobb reaches up
into a cabinet above the counterwhere a glass bottle of pills
(39:39):
falls and shatters on the floor,this summons Matt, who says, T
bobb, if you ever need anythingfrom a medicine cabinet, ask an
adult medicines can bedangerous.
And uh, you know, especially ifthey're in non shatterproof
glass bottles.
PJ (39:53):
cabinets are typically the bathroom.
this really looks like akitchen,
Adam (39:58):
Yeah,
PJ (39:58):
a bathroom, this is a palatial bathroom.
it's just gigantic.
Adam (40:04):
I know.
PJ (40:05):
Adam, what was in that bottle that upset Matt so much?
was it poison?
Adam (40:09):
Well, why would he keep poisoning around?
How do you keep someone asleepafter they've fallen in a
ravine?
PJ (40:18):
Row hypno.
Adam (40:21):
Well, so that's, that's the lesson is, um, ask an adults
for something from a medicinecabinet.
that's the episode.
Uh, let's take a look at ourawards.
I mean, the Buddy Hawks Award,this, that's what the name of
this episode should be.
PJ (40:33):
Yeah.
It really ought to be, uh, Imean, the writers rack up more
for their lifetime achievementaward very easily.
Once again, n
Adam (40:41):
yeah, I mean, there's so many to, to even point out.
I don't even know if we can
PJ (40:45):
with what exception I'm gonna get to, I mean, the
characters, like where, whereasthey're probably really subtly
like, you know, interactingpoorly with these guys don't
have a whole lot of overt stuff.
I mean, the writers basicallyjust are, you know, trashed on
the floor here.
I will say the Bruce commentabout the Mimi Show and then
(41:05):
Matt laughing is probably the,the closest where it's kind of
like the belittlement of thepeople, within the episode.
Adam (41:11):
yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna go, uh, in that note.
I'd say Brad with the Rockmonster.
PJ (41:16):
Okay,
Adam (41:17):
Okay, how about the Sly Racks Ragdoll Award?
PJ (41:21):
I mean, really it's Scott and t Bobb, uh, slide in on
Uluru, like to their
Adam (41:27):
Yeah.
PJ (41:28):
That to
Adam (41:28):
No, they're, I agreed a hundred percent RIP Scott and t
Bobb.
See you next episode.
Father of the Year award.
I think it's pretty obvious.
PJ (41:37):
yeah.
Bringing Scott yet again to adangerous place.
Very
Adam (41:40):
Yeah.
Finally, the Roy Batty moment ofthe episode.
PJ (41:45):
I really thought it was laughing at t.
Bob's ineptitude with theboomerang.
I mean, you're really
Adam (41:50):
Yeah.
PJ (41:50):
asking a lot to laugh at someone.
They fuck up with a weapon.
Like at what point in time
Adam (41:55):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
PJ (41:56):
and just throw it at Matt?
Adam (41:58):
Agreed.
they gotta stop laughing at TeeBob's pain.
Is this episode Panda Poo?
PJ (42:03):
Yeah.
okay, we're back in this commontrope of venom looking into some
sort of lost treasure slashpower.
but I kept wondering, is theoutback sun getting to
everybody?
Because everyone feels just alittle lazy The stakes are
Adam (42:19):
Yeah.
PJ (42:19):
it's kind of bottom barrel for venom to be trying to rip
off an indigenous people.
so I'm not sure if they ranoutta that Prime minister's
money or that finance minister'smoney.
Adam (42:29):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (42:30):
the CL plan's not as clever as we've seen before.
Not even as clever as the planwe've seen last time we were in
Australia and we get another baddepiction of the people of
Australia.
So overall, I'm killing thislazy panda poo
Adam (42:45):
I agree.
there are no stakes for Venomhere.
we don't even really understandwhat it is they're going for.
I don't believe Miles ever saysthere is a temple hidden in this
rock that contains treasuresbeyond your wildest imagination.
Like, just that alone would befine.
(43:06):
but he's also, by the way, noteven putting the indigenous
Australians in any danger.
He's just.
Using holograms to dupe them forme it's Poo because it's barely
an episode of mask.
I mean, note that the masksactually get trapped in a
damaged thunder hawk, so theycan't even use them.
(43:27):
switchblade gets used with thelasers.
Hocus pocus gets used, the masscomputer gets used, but that's
kind of it.
So it's, it's panda poo.
Now, we wanted to open up a newsection of our episodes, kind of
like the re writer's corner, totalk about, you know, where the
episode goes wrong and how couldit have been changed to make it
(43:48):
go right.
PJ (43:50):
Here's the thing,
Adam (43:50):
Okay.
PJ (43:51):
just to toot some horns here for a second.
Adam is an accomplished writer,both of games, and television.
Adam (43:58):
all of that is a lie Writer, yes.
Accomplished, maybe not.
PJ (44:02):
He created the show, the Pinkertons.
So that was
Adam (44:05):
Mm.
Loved by dozens.
PJ (44:08):
Hey, more shows than I've made.
wanna ask you a question.
From a writer's standpoint.
Adam (44:15):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (44:16):
this, you've operated in this.
So where does this episode gowrong?
Adam (44:22):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the very firstthing you have to do, and I
pointed this out in the poosection, is you have to like,
what are the stakes?
Here's how you can set up anyepisode of mask.
Just the format venom threatensto blink.
Unless blank, like right there.
That's the first thing you needto know in a mask episode.
So if we were to take today'sepisode and put it into that
(44:43):
framework, venom threatens tonothing or else nothing like
that's why this episode doesn'twork because there is no venom
plot here.
and you pointed out thecharacters seem really lazy,
especially masks seems verylazy.
They're lazy'cause there's nourgency.
And there's no urgency becausethere are no stakes to the
(45:05):
episode.
No one's in danger until theonly time there are stakes are
when
PJ (45:10):
I, I mean, when they're pounding on Uluru and Scott and
tbo
Adam (45:14):
cut.
PJ (45:15):
in there.
That's it.
Adam (45:16):
right.
So Scott and t Bobb get trappedin there, and then suddenly the
stakes are very high becauseMatt's son is in danger.
PJ (45:22):
I.
Adam (45:23):
of it had to do with Venom's plot.
In fact, the reason that Scottand t Bobb are entombed beneath
Uluru is because Matt decided tobring them along into the
Australian Outback because hethought he'd be safer with them,
right?
So right there, it's like, well,Matt, you're incompetent.
And again, going back to what wesaid at the beginning of this
(45:44):
episode, we do love mask, but ifwe're gonna poke holes at it,
Matt is incompetent in thisepisode, he brings them to this
place.
And the only stakes that matterare Scott and t Bobb, trapped
Uluru.
And it's, and it's his fault.
I mean, those are two areaswhere the episode goes, very,
very wrong.
if I'm gonna go straight up, atypical episode of Mask Miles,
(46:08):
threatens to blow up Uluruunless the indigenous
Australians agree to show himthe location of the hidden
temple filled with treasure.
Right.
Okay.
That is a little bit goofball,but it would work as a mask
episode, right?
PJ (46:26):
Yeah.
It's very akin to a greatepisode that we've talked about
in the past.
It's assault on liberty, Butyou're a hundred percent right
that, let's create some kind ofreal stakes here that's
important to the people on theground.
Adam (46:40):
But that is it for episode 37.
Episode 38 is coming up next.
PJ (46:46):
Yeah, a really important note.
I did the math wrong last time,so I'll correct myself now.
The next episode is the midpointof the entire series.
Um, so we've
Adam (46:56):
Crazy.
PJ (46:57):
up to this point in time.
We've got 38 and then 37 moreepisodes after that.
So after next episode, it's alldownhill and we're
Adam (47:05):
crazy.
PJ (47:05):
a ton of new characters
Adam (47:07):
cannot wait to get into the new characters.
It's gonna be a blast.
PJ (47:11):
that'll be awesome.
Adam (47:12):
rounding out the first half of the series is episode
38.
The Curse of Solomon's GorgeMask goes to Africa to stop
venom.
Who has discovered KingSolomon's treasures?
PJ (47:23):
We're going back to the country of Africa.
Adam (47:30):
Oh, wonderful.
Very good mask.
you never failed to amaze us.
looking forward to that one.
Looking forward to having youjoin us, but for now, we have to
transform and head back to hq.
I am Adam Moore.
PJ (47:42):
And I am PJ McNerney.
Adam (47:44):
Bye-bye.
PJ (47:45):
Bye bye.
The mobile armored podcast showis written, produced and edited.
Bye Adam Moore.
And PJ McNerney.
Welcome to the Mobile Armored Podcast show.
The podcast that transforms intoan Angry Rock monster.
My name is Adam Moore, alongsidemy co-host and best friend PJ
McNerney.
How's it going, pj?
PJ (00:28):
I'm good, man.
I've been doing a lot ofreflection.
I think there's probably a, awhole host of people out there
that think that we hate.
This cartoon show.
This is episode 37, not countingsome of our special
interstitials.
So don't do 37 episodes unlessone of two things are true, you
either are psychotic or you loveit.
Adam (00:50):
Okay.
PJ (00:50):
to our wives, we're a bit of both.
but I understand like, you know,we get down on these episodes.
and so I do think we could becognizant of being, kinder, a
little, uh, a little moreforgiving.
won't be this episode.
won't be this episode to besure.
So like, If you're hoping forthat to start now, I'm sorry,
Adam (01:08):
Look.
let me remind folks who haven'tbeen along for the whole entire
ride, we started this podcastbecause we loved the toys as
kids.
We loved the show as kids.
And then we took another look atit as adult parents and realized
there's a lot to talk about herebecause there's a lot of stuff
(01:29):
that doesn't add up.
Will we be kinder and gentler?
Maybe you will be, but I stillhave significant issues with
this show.
And I think we have to be okaywith having problems with the
show.
PJ (01:41):
Just because you and I have severe father abandonment issues
doesn't mean we have to keepprojecting them over and over
again onto Matt because heabandons his son all the time.
Adam (01:53):
I think that is a big part of it.
I really do.
I definitely think that is amajor part of the issues that we
have with the show, but I thinkit's okay
PJ (02:01):
Yeah.
Adam (02:02):
love something and also to understand that it is flawed
deeply so at times, and it'sokay to hold those two things in
your mind and in your heart.
PJ (02:13):
We
Adam (02:13):
all right.
PJ (02:14):
be mindful about how critical we are about parenting
and racism and all the otherthings that we'd like to touch
upon.
So what's this episode about,Adam?
Adam (02:24):
Well, it's called the Sacred Rock, PJ Venom Frightens,
I can't even say it.
Having said all that about beingkinder and gentler, episode 37,
venom frightens a tribe ofAustralian aborigines who
believe their God Mimi is angrywith them.
When Tbo makes an appearance,the tribe thinks he is their
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deity.
So nothing racist about that atall.
We open on Ayers Rock in theAustralian Outback.
Now we're gonna have to diveinto a history corner right off
the bat because today we referto Ayers Rock as Uluru.
(03:10):
What I call this a Buddy Hawksnomination.
like, from today's viewpoint, Iwould, but pj you're gonna dive
into History Corner and unpackthis a little bit.
PJ (03:19):
Yeah.
And it's, uh, I, it's,
Adam (03:21):
I am going to Buddy Hawks you during your history corner,
PJ (03:27):
I think that's fair because, uh,
Adam (03:29):
so go ahead.
PJ (03:30):
I'm effectively, I, I feel like I'm now in the Imperialism
Defense Award at this point intime, because I wanna just point
out historically, in 1985, thename hadn't been reverted to its
native name.
Adam (03:46):
that's right.
Because in your original notesfor this episode, you say it had
not yet had its name updated
PJ (03:52):
know, I
Adam (03:53):
Uluru.
It's always been called Uluru.
PJ (03:56):
I'll take my buddy Hawks for the episode then.
I think it was like 1831 orsomething like that.
It was like a
Adam (04:02):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:03):
this rock looks awesome.
We're gonna name it Ayers Rock.
the, dual naming of it, withAyers Rock and Uluru, came into
effect in 1993.
So
Adam (04:13):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:15):
despite the fact it is a reminder of British imperialism,
it would've been called AyersRock at the time.
So, now this is important.
The people do not.
Climb Uluru due to its culturaland religious significance.
Adam (04:32):
Right?
PJ (04:33):
the Prime Minister of Australia told them they'd hand
back the land title to the localpeople, and they would prevent
people from climbing Uluru
Adam (04:42):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (04:42):
pretty quick.
Mm-hmm.
and it's only as of 2017 thatclimbing's now forbidden.
So any climbing of Uluru isn'taffront to the people there.
So just thank God no one climbsit.
This episode, I hope
Adam (04:58):
at any rate, not climbing the rock, fortunately are two
rich American tourists who arethere, and the wife says it's
the biggest rock in the world.
And the husband says, Mildred, Ithought the biggest rock in the
world was on your wedding ring.
Americans.
PJ (05:18):
It's such a funny, weird exchange and I hope kids loved
it.
love that they have this shot offraming the tribe and I was
reminded of that line fromZoolander, where it's like,
don't some aboriginal tribesbelieve that a photo steals part
of your spirit?
I did look this up.
And so right now, this Americanjust kind of randomly taking a
(05:38):
photo is taking some of theirsouls.
Adam (05:41):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, and speaking ofthem, the tribes people, they're
showing, look, nothing like theindigenous Australians.
Like I noted in a previousAustralian episode.
they don't necessarily dress inthis cliche native attire.
It looks like something out ofSouth America.
It looks like very littleresearch went into this at all.
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skin tone looks off, and again,I mean, the majority of
indigenous Australians todaylive in.
Modern places and wear typicalmodern clothes.
maybe in 85 it was different,but I don't think so.
So Buddy Hawks all over theplace.
and maybe for me, and maybe foryou as well, PJ, and maybe for
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this whole episode of thepodcast to get itself a Buddy
Hawks nomination,
PJ (06:29):
I would object.
I did a little research and Isaw that the writers,
extensively watched the movieCrocodile Dundee
Adam (06:36):
Uhhuh.
PJ (06:36):
as a way to research for
Adam (06:39):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (06:40):
of this episode.
So.
Adam (06:41):
Well, the indigenous Australians say, speak to us
spirits of the rock.
We have come to hear yourwisdom.
And the American tries to take apicture of them Then some of the
rocks start glowing and starthovering.
Mildred asks, did you get thepicture?
Harry?
Harry?
And the husband?
Seems like he's in a trance.
PJ (07:02):
he does
Adam (07:03):
Well then we cut to a camera shop We find out it's
Alice Springs.
Matt Scott and t Bob are inthere.
Matt's buying some film for hiscamera, but the American couple
that we saw in the beginning arethere as well, and they're
trying to get their photosdeveloped, they're overexposed.
the husband says, now no onewill believe.
We saw those dancing rocks Mattsays, dancing rocks.
(07:26):
And suddenly his unusualsituations, radar goes off.
PJ (07:31):
I had a question for you, Adam.
Doesn't Matt ever believe thatsome people could just be drunk
or on drugs?
if you listen to any random shityou might hear in the world, are
you gonna jump at everyopportunity?
Adam (07:44):
Well, you never know if Matt is also drunk or on drugs
PJ (07:49):
Brad is here this episode, so.
Adam (07:51):
Exactly.
Well, a very badly accentedAustralian shopkeeper says,
sounds like the legend of theMimi, the Aborigines believe a
magic spirit called the Mimi canmove in and out of solid rock.
And for kind of no reasonwhatsoever, because we never see
this again.
This dreamscape unfolds and wesee some kind of a nightmare of
(08:17):
a creature.
It's like, tiny little bitsailor moon, but wearing pink.
Leotards, and pants, and it'sgot weird flowing hair
PJ (08:28):
it really is a Brad Turner drug trip right here.
Adam (08:32):
It absolutely is a Brad Turner drug trip
PJ (08:34):
got speckled stuff in the background where it's yellow and
blue and all these colors mixedtogether, and these dancing,
fairy like creatures.
It's almost like a humanoid catthat's jumping
Adam (08:46):
that, yeah, but very dead looking eyes, but a smile.
so I did some research here,mimis are real well, are they
real?
Are they not real?
We don't know.
But the indigenous Australians,uh, comes from their folklore.
They're fairy like beings.
they're described as havingextremely thin and elongated
bodies, so thin as to be indanger of breaking in case of
(09:09):
high wind.
And to avoid this, they usuallyspend most of their time living
in rock crevices.
which is nothing like what thisimage that appears on screen is.
This is not a thin, frighteningcreature.
This is, again, some sort ofanime thing.
some other things you might liketo know about the Mimi.
(09:30):
Uh, they made the First Rockpaintings before the indigenous
Australians first came toNorthern Australia, and the Mimi
taught them how to paint and howto hunt and how to cook kangaroo
meat, which is the finest ofmeat in the Outback.
At the end of the day though, tokeep in mind the Mimis are
considered to be mischievous,but generally harmless.
PJ (09:49):
Okay, so Mimis are basically culinary Australian leprechauns
without the gold and alcohol
Adam (09:58):
Yes, very much so.
PJ (09:59):
I can say
Adam (10:00):
Yep.
Say that
PJ (10:01):
Irish.
Adam (10:04):
Well, it turns out that this isn't the first time in the
past few days that someone hascome to this Photoshop and
claimed to see the Mimi, andMatt asks the guy if he can take
the Americans photos that theyleft behind.
PJ (10:19):
this is like a moment.
I was like, wait, so Matt's justgonna take someone else's photos
What if there's like adultphoto, like this is a married
couple, you don't know what'sgonna be in there.
Matt, like,
Adam (10:29):
Did he pay for them?
Did anyone pay for these photos?
PJ (10:32):
I'm imagining Matt's gonna pay for them or buy the shop,
but like, I don't know, if thatcouple made them develop it and
then not pay for it, that's ashitty thing to do.
So
Adam (10:44):
Typical American tourists.
we cut to Thunder, hawk andCondor parked in the middle of a
dirt road.
Matt, Bruce and Brad are allthere and they're listening to
the computer, analyze thephotos, it turns out during the
scene that Matt knows thatMayhem is in Australia for some
reason.
So once again, Matt bringing hiskid on a trip where a terrorist
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group is known to be operating.
PJ (11:10):
I've thought about what the exchange would be like where
Matt says to Gloria, Hey,Gloria, can you take Scott?
And it's like, what?
So you and Bruce and Brad canhave a boys trip to Australia?
No, thank you.
I've got a race in F1.
Adam (11:23):
Right.
PJ (11:23):
a different note now that we know that Matt is there to kind
of snoop out Venom, gives a tinybit more to that Dancing Rocks
thing, like you're kind of onthe listen out for anything
weird.
'cause that's what
Adam (11:38):
Right.
Well done.
Way to defend Matt's decisionshere.
Matt instructs Brad to staybehind in Alice Springs and find
out what he can from the localAborigines.
Meanwhile, he says, Bruce and Iare going to the Rock.
PJ (11:53):
You're going to see Dwayne Johnson,
Adam (11:55):
I thought that every time they mentioned the Rock in this
episode, I kept on thinking it'sthe Rock.
What's he doing in Australia?
PJ (12:04):
the other thing that came to my mind was like Sean Connery,
like the rock
Adam (12:11):
You gonna see a movie right now, bro, why can't I come
with you?
PJ (12:16):
got out of, yeah.
Adam (12:17):
Matt invites Scott to come along with him because he'll be
safer with him.
It's a strange note of concernfrom Matt regarding his child.
PJ (12:24):
I'm glad he's showing concern, like the action he's
taking to show concern may notbe the best.
hey, let me bring you to a sitewhere there may be terrorists,
but let's give him credit.
also, he knows what happenedlast time he left Scott with
Brad.
Brad left him on the side ofthat mountain during
Adam (12:41):
Right,
PJ (12:41):
and priest affair Brad might leave him in the middle of the
outback.
Hey man, can you walk back toSydney from here?
Adam (12:49):
we cut to venom.
They're in a tent in the outbackMiles is tinkering with a very
typical venom machine.
Turns out this one createsholograms.
he explains, to his team thatthe natives think the holograms
are their quote unquote rockgods.
Sly says, give me five minuteswith the Aborigines and I'll
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scare them into telling useverything.
And he has a point because thelast time we were in Australia,
it worked.
He dressed up as that nativepriest and warned them that the
wind gods were angry.
And that's where the turbinemachine came and like kidnapped
all the locals, right?
PJ (13:27):
I was wondering if this was a subtle callback.
'cause if it was it's kind ofneat.
Adam (13:31):
And then we have this little, interlude where, miles
tells Sly that he's as dumb asCliff, to which Cliff says,
yeah, you are as dumb as me,
PJ (13:40):
when do we get the group therapy session together?
These folks, there's so muchlike hatred, like this is not a
healthy working environment byany stretch.
Adam (13:48):
agreed.
But then Cliff has a good idea,right?
He says, why not use Switchbladeand cover it with the hologram
Sky Gods are more sacred thanEarth Gods
PJ (13:56):
I was like, wow, a really good point.
That big brain cliff that's a
Adam (14:01):
check.
PJ (14:02):
idea.
Adam (14:03):
Miles's response is, my method has worked so far.
I'm not changing anything now.
PJ (14:07):
I this Miles can never admit that Cliff is on point about
something.
Adam (14:13):
No.
And also I don't see how it'sworked so far, and I'm gonna
touch on that when we get to apoint a little bit later in the
episode.
Brad arrives at a localindigenous village and he says,
this should be a piece of cake.
All I have to do is turn on myever loving charm.
He approaches some villagerssitting in a circle and he says,
(14:35):
hi there.
How's it going?
My name is Brad.
Do you know anything about theMimi?
It's almost like he doesn'tspeak English and is reading out
of a guidebook.
How is it going?
My name is Brad.
Do you know anything about theMimi?
Well, all the women andchildren, they freak out and
(14:55):
start crying and then he saysmaybe a song will calm them.
And doesn't he pull a guitaroutta nowhere in that moment?
PJ (15:02):
hammer space man, all the way.
He like pulls a
Adam (15:05):
Yeah.
Outta nowhere.
Yep.
PJ (15:07):
and he is ready to like, just jam with these guys.
Adam (15:09):
Yeah.
and then this big guy comes outand confronts Brad and says, in
broken English, why you talkabout Mimi?
And Brad's response is, I don'tthink I know that song.
PJ (15:21):
couple questions, man.
the dude who comes out, why ishe shirtless?
Adam (15:26):
Yeah, because he is wearing dress pants.
Like he's wearing a normal pairof slacks but just not wearing a
shirt.
PJ (15:32):
Yeah.
Um, also, is it forbidden totalk about maybe like that They
didn't really establish thatvery well.
finally, I thought a betterthing for the guy to say because
this random white dude isupsetting his family is to be
like, who the fuck are you?
Why are you approaching my wifeand kids randomly and bothering
them?
(15:54):
I was just like, ah, maybe likeBrad reminds him of that sort of
cool youth pastor that's doing amissionary trip.
Adam (16:00):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (16:00):
And I'm not saying Adam, that Brad looks Mormon here, but
Adam (16:04):
Yeah.
PJ (16:04):
in shirt do.
Adam (16:06):
Which could open up a whole new dimension on who Brad
Turner is.
He is a Mormon rock star whogoes from town to town on
missionary trips.
Now that's a cartoon show rightthere.
PJ (16:19):
we go.
Adam (16:20):
So Thunder, Hawk and Rhino, they arrive at Uluru to
find the indigenous Australiansworshiping the Rock.
And all of this that happenshere is worthy of Buddy Hawk's
nominations.
PJ (16:31):
What are you saying?
don't natives worship rocks inthe outback.
Adam (16:35):
I just don't know, like if on their hands and knees like
bowing to it, spouting what isclearly gibberish, I'll play it
right now so you can hear whatit is they're worshiping.
that is gibberish.
That's not actually
PJ (16:54):
Adam.
Adam (16:54):
any words.
PJ (16:55):
That's because before Brad and the Mormon missionaries came
out, there was Catholicmissionaries that came out.
Adam (17:01):
So it's Latin.
PJ (17:02):
It's Latin.
Adam (17:05):
Understood.
PJ (17:06):
And I can
Adam (17:06):
Got it.
PJ (17:07):
'cause I was raised Catholic.
So,
Adam (17:09):
You're getting away with a lot McNerney.
This episode,
PJ (17:12):
uh, I'm driving a bus through kindness.
Adam (17:17):
uh, T VB throws a boomerang.
He runs away from it and thenhits a tree causing Matt, Bruce
and Scott to all burst outlaughing.
So we have a great Roy Battynomination for making fun of Tvo
when he is in pain.
PJ (17:31):
It really is.
It's like, Hey man, I was justtrying to have some fun here.
I had two questions though aboutthis, Adam.
So a boomerang is a weapon, likeit's a,
Adam (17:42):
Yep.
PJ (17:42):
we play with it as a toy here in the us but it's a weapon
used to hunt, right?
Adam (17:47):
Yeah.
PJ (17:47):
why would TBO think it's a good idea to use a weapon, with
these natives here?
Like what if he accidentallyhits one of them?
Adam (17:55):
What if he's trying to get more lethal?
PJ (17:58):
yeah, this maybe you're right.
This is the Roy Batty he'spracticing.
Adam (18:02):
exactly.
what?
PJ (18:04):
though for you is
Adam (18:05):
Yeah,
PJ (18:06):
aren't they trying to stay hidden at the same time?
Adam (18:09):
I know, right?
At least they have to beheckling quietly
PJ (18:13):
Yeah.
Adam (18:14):
themselves.
well, Matt and Bruce go off toinvestigate and, Matt, tells
Scott to stay here.
So what does Scott do?
He decides to climb Uluru.
PJ (18:25):
No, Scott, that's sacrilege.
Adam (18:27):
He is just climbing up, no ropes, no nothing, just doing
his thing.
Well, back to Bruce and Matt.
they are, poking out from behinda corner there, and Bruce says,
sounds like the Mimi Show isabout to begin.
And Matt says, then let's grabourselves some front row seats.
PJ (18:44):
It's like Bruce the Mimi show.
Really?
Adam (18:47):
I'm Bruce got some buddy Hawks for me right there.
Like
PJ (18:50):
That is a
Adam (18:51):
that's, you know, a minor one for Matt for playing along
with it.
PJ (18:56):
Yeah.
Adam (18:56):
well, Matt and Bruce witnessed the glowing rocks and
Bruce says, fish can swim,flowers can bloom.
However, a dancing rock has noleg to stand on.
it's a sadism indeed.
it makes no sense whatsoever
PJ (19:13):
what information did we learn from Bruce at this point
in time?
did that actually advance or addanything?
I was at least glad Matt didn'texplain that back to Bruce.
normally you'd need Scott orBrad or Dusty or pick a name to
be like, I don't know whatyou're talking about.
And then Matt would have to likeexplain it.
I mean, I have expected to belike, Matt, Bruce, you're right.
(19:36):
Rocks can't dance without legsthat's fundamentally all you get
out of that.
Adam (19:41):
Yep.
But from this, Matt makes astunning leap of logic.
He says, only one person couldbe behind this Miles mayhem.
PJ (19:52):
Or aliens or other mystical shit.
You've seen both of those thingsin the past, man.
Adam (19:58):
meanwhile, well, on their way to the top of the 1100 foot
Uluru t Bobb, stumbles and fallsdown dragging Scott with him.
PJ (20:08):
The shot is awesome.
Like how frightened they are.
Adam (20:12):
Yeah.
Uh, petrified.
And he should be because Scottis on his way to his death.
Makes me ask you, pj, what'sgonna happen.
PJ (20:22):
I don't know.
I dunno.
Adam (20:25):
We'll find out after these messages
Come on, Jeebop.
Mask will be right back.
Oh, boy.
Back to mask.
and we are back When we left you Scott and t Bobb were
plummeting to their doom fromsomewhere on the 1100 foot high
Uluru.
I don't know really what to sayabout, this It was a big moment
(20:48):
in my childhood watchingcartoons.
It was up there with OptimusPrime's death to see Scott, this
character that I reallyidentified so much with die.
Um.
PJ (20:59):
his death or was it when he ripped his own heart out and
gave it to Bruce and said, thematrix is yours now?
Like, which, which part was likethe most devastating for you?
Adam (21:17):
That'd be so great.
Like if Tbo has the optimistprime mo moment and he pulls
like some panda poo out of histill all are won.
Scott and t Bobb survive.
Surprise, surprise.
But the indigenous Australiansspot, t Bobb and Scott sliding
(21:38):
down the rock and they proclaimit to be the sky God.
PJ (21:42):
And I was like, wait, what?
is this the sign?
Like someone dirt sliding downsacred because it's also a bit
confusing and it doesn't get anyless confusing deeper into the
episode.
'cause either they think that tbob's a God yet again,
Adam (22:01):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (22:01):
or which is what the tagline said.
Or they think this sliding whitekid is a God.
either way, Scott's pants areripped the shit
Adam (22:11):
If ever a shot of a rip in someone's pants with the
underwear showing was warrantedin the show, this was it.
Having said that, I'm very gladthey did not do that.
PJ (22:22):
I hate to think they talked about it.
We're like, no, we probably shThat's, that's too far.
Adam (22:26):
Uh, t Bobb and Scott break their fall on top of Venom's
tent damaging the hologrammachine, and Miles is very
upset.
He says, just when theAborigines were ready to tell me
what I wanted to know, I'll haveto think of another method.
And I just thought that tortureand or kidnapping probably works
just fine.
PJ (22:44):
They do, but that wrangles miles' flare for the dramatic
man.
Like, you know,
Adam (22:50):
it's so true.
He's a showman at heart.
Well, the indigenousAustralians.
Say at last, the rock hasbrought us the sky, God, he has
come on a shining chariot.
We take him to the temple andnone of this sounds like the
writers have an accurateunderstanding of the culture and
practices of the indigenousAustralians.
PJ (23:10):
Wait, they don't have temples.
Adam (23:12):
I don't believe so.
I also have not researched it.
Why don't I do that?
PJ (23:19):
Okay.
Mask will be right back, and sowill Venom.
Now back to math.
Adam (23:25):
I wanna, get back to you with the results of my in-depth
research that I just did.
The indigenous Australians donot have temples.
They have sacred sites.
PJ (23:34):
Thank you.
I appreciate that because,'causethey crowd around tbo and they
name it in a second, but I feellike it's kind of ambiguous in
the moment it gets a little bitweird because for a second
there, Adam, it seems that TBOis actually the sky God that
they're crowding around.
Adam (23:53):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (23:53):
question to you, a common set of aliens that visited the
Incans and the indigenousAustralians that look like tbo?
And if so, did Scottunconsciously create tbo in
their likeness?
And if so, is it possible thatTBO is in the likeness of the
aliens from the starch chariotepisode, which is why he and
Scott were saved?
Is such a thing even possible?
(24:15):
Yes, it is.
Adam (24:19):
Now we go to Venom and man, there's this very confusing
exchange between Miles and theindigenous Australians.
And I mentioned this a littlebit earlier.
it's as if there was some setupabout Miles's connection with
the locals that was cut from theepisode.
So the exchange is, your weakgods have fled from the sky.
God, now you must flee from thevillage.
(24:41):
And mayhem says we will leavepeacefully.
PJ (24:44):
I think you're right.
I think there was some setupthat this is trying to pay off,
which is unfortunate not to have
Adam (24:50):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (24:52):
you know, how is Miles interacting with these guys?
what is the deal?
They have, like Miles is goingto bring them the presence of
the Mimi and then they will.
Take him to their treasures.
It's, it would
Adam (25:05):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (25:06):
awesome to have that in there rather than us backfilling
it.
Adam (25:09):
Yeah.
As much as I don't want toencourage him, it actually
would've worked a lot better ifSly had dressed up as some sort
of a priest or, Aboriginalspirit to speak directly to them
or as their sky God, because itdoesn't make any sense, like how
Miles was interacting with,like, did he show up and say,
the Mimi are going to appear onthe rock and they're gonna do
(25:32):
bad things unless you tell methis information.
and then he's been doing it overand over again, so it clearly
actually hasn't been working.
Well, meanwhile, Matt and Brucetouched base with Brad, who has
made inroads in the indigenousvillage by teaching them how to
play guitar.
And I will point out again thatthis is not how indigenous
(25:53):
Australians dress or live, Yougot thatch roof huts.
I mean, first of all, there'sone kid, can we post this
picture on socials as well?
It's like one of these things isnot like the other, it's like
kind of indigenous person andbaby kind of indigenous kid and
then white girl.
PJ (26:15):
Yeah.
what do we got going on here?
Huh?
Adam (26:17):
Which at least she's wearing modern clothing.
PJ (26:20):
it's true.
We did have that theory lasttime in Australia that we were
not actually visiting indigenouspeople.
We were visiting with whitepeople who were dressing up as
what they thought wereindigenous people, and acting
like they thought wereindigenous people in some sort
of weird, recreation.
So I don't know if they have theequivalent of Refa, for
(26:44):
indigenous people in Australia,but maybe that's what this is.
He's not actually in a, a nativevillage.
It's uh, you know, abig fair orwhatever.
Adam (26:53):
that's the buddy Hawks right there for you, pal.
PJ (26:55):
Thank you.
I'm not saying it's right, I'mjust saying that's what these
people are doing.
Adam (27:02):
Right.
No, I understand.
PJ (27:04):
Uh, and I had a question.
Are these the faces of peoplethat are so happy to learn how
to play guitar or are theyactually stoned?
which is the more likely rootBrad took here to win these
people over?
I,
Adam (27:15):
Or is all of this a drug-induced hallucination?
In Brad's mind, he's actuallynot in a village with any
people.
He's wandering around theoutback aimlessly playing
guitar.
PJ (27:29):
No, he's playing air guitar.
He didn't even bring it withhim.
How did he like pull it out fromnowhere?
Adam (27:38):
So, Brad reveals that he learned about the lost shrine of
a bore.
It was supposed to be an opalmind.
The prehistoric aboriginesturned into a temple, but it's
just a legend.
And guess where you'll find theshrine inside Ayers Rock.
AKA Uluru?
PJ (27:57):
Okay, so something just occurred to me.
We gotta stop right here for asecond.
I wanna parse this.
So there was an opal mine, theprehistoric aborigines dug They
formed a mining company and dugup opals.
And then the later prehistoricaborigines who were later than
(28:17):
the prehistoric prehistoricaborigines turned that mine a
temple.
Adam (28:24):
Uhhuh.
PJ (28:24):
I just wanna make sure I understand the order of
operations here, that it wasfirst of mine and then a temple.
Adam (28:31):
we don't know if it was the prehistoric aborigines who
built the mine.
All we know is that they turneda mine into a temple.
So is it possible visitors fromanother planet mined Uluru?
PJ (28:48):
And if so, did they look like tbo?
Adam (28:54):
Well, that's the setup folks.
There's a shrine inside Uluru
PJ (28:59):
Which is
Adam (28:59):
to the sky.
God, a former mine according tothe mask computer.
Over the years, the locals,meaning the, indigenous
Australians have storedtreasures in the temple as
offerings to the sky God, andthey believe that his return
will bring them eternalprosperity.
Matt instructs Brad to meet upwith them fast.
(29:22):
He's concerned that Scott ismixed up in this somehow, and
Matt says we've got to find thembefore mayhem does.
PJ (29:29):
Uh, slight
Adam (29:30):
So,
PJ (29:30):
corner here.
this is all bullshit.
there is no a bore, as far as Ican tell, there's no mine or
temple or sacred site
Adam (29:39):
No.
PJ (29:40):
Uluru.
Uluru is the sacred site.
Adam (29:44):
Meanwhile, Scott and t Bobb are being carried on a
pagoda type thing by the localsand brought inside Uluru, the
indigenous leader blows a horn.
That sounds like an elephant.
What the heck?
Like not even trying it is anelephant sound effect that they
just threw in there'cause theydidn't have anything else better
(30:06):
to do.
And then after blowing the horn,a statue moves aside, revealing.
The entrance to the temple.
Now inside this temple, it'sfilled with all kinds of
treasure.
And the indigenous leader says,we give you all these priceless
treasures.
And Scott's about to tell themlike, no, it's okay.
I don't need it.
But then Tbo cuts him off andsays, priceless treasures might
(30:29):
come in handy sometime.
And I love how TBOs become likea true tracker.
PJ (30:34):
he is embraced it, man.
He's like, oh,
Adam (30:36):
Yeah,
PJ (30:37):
money
Adam (30:38):
I know.
so the leader says, this templeshall be the sky, God's home
forever.
And Tbo is just like throwing inthe gems and treasures.
And he says, I'm rich.
Look again.
This has happened before.
Does he not know that Matt's abillionaire?
PJ (30:52):
is it because like this could be TBOs.
Matt doesn't actually share hismoney.
This is actually, oh, this canbe mine
Adam (31:00):
Is t bobb like an indentured servant?
And this would buy him out ofhis robotic servitude from the
tracker family?
Well, the, uh, the indigenousAustralians closed the temple
door trapping Scott and t bobbinside.
PJ (31:15):
I was like, whoa, what is going on here?
realistically, the next timethey reopen that door, Scott
will be dead.
Dead.
Like either he will have run outof oxygen or starved,
Adam (31:28):
sky gods don't starve.
they don't require sustenance orair.
PJ (31:32):
So what are they gonna think?
when they reopen the door, it'slike, oh man, I guess he was
just a white kid.
it's not a sky god after all.
Adam (31:41):
Quick.
Hide them.
You know, what happens whenwhite kids die out here,
PJ (31:46):
let's feed him to the hogs like Dusty did last episode.
Adam (31:50):
but also where'd they get all these treasures from?
Like, where did all the pearlsand the diamonds and the
emeralds, where did it all comefrom?
Have they been stealing fromtourists or like, mean,
PJ (32:04):
possible that ancient aliens came and visited and gave them
these trinkets as a way tosignify they were coming back?
Adam (32:12):
Yeah, man.
I think it's a great question.
Where did all this stuff comefrom?
Matt and Bruce are now lookingfor Scott and t Bob, and Matt is
super concerned that they triedto climb, he's rock.
This by the way, is based onwhere he found the boomerang.
So we found the boomerang on theground and said, Hmm, based on
this, they must have tried toclimb ays rock.
(32:35):
what a Leap in logic.
PJ (32:36):
Do you think the reason he knew it was the same boomerang
is'cause the price tag was stillon the back, wherever he got it
from, because otherwise there'sa lot of boomerangs, presumably
that would be hanging aroundhere,
Adam (32:47):
Pj, do you think Uluru is just strewn with abandoned
boomerangs?
PJ (32:53):
thrown by white people after climbing it.
Yes.
Adam (32:56):
Just littered.
Littered with boomerangs.
That's why they had to banpeople from climbing Uluru.
'cause they would climb up andtoss boomerangs off.
Uh, well, Matt says I shouldn'thave left them alone.
You think?
PJ (33:13):
I think we should back up to your earlier point about
bringing a kid into a countrywith a known and active
terrorist threat.
Adam (33:19):
Yeah.
Should have left him at homewith a nanny.
But anyways, Bruce says, Hey,hang in there.
We'll find them.
And maybe they can help us.
And Bruce nods to the locals Uh,meanwhile, miles, sly and Cliff
are gathered around Switchblade.
Cliff says There's no temple,just a cave entrance, and Miles
(33:41):
admonishes him.
Like, don't you think the caveentrance could be the way into
the temple?
there's some interplay betweenSly and Cliff about Cliff's lack
of intelligence.
Miles does need to treat thembetter as a boss, but he also
needs to get better employees.
PJ (33:55):
He
Adam (33:56):
Let's be honest.
PJ (33:56):
But let me ask you this question,'cause it just occurred
to me, to Cliff's Point, howmany temples do you know are in
caves?
And if you say the one from thelast crusade, that's the only
one you get.
So how many temples are youaware of?
Basically just cave entrances.
Cliff might be like, look, it'sa cave.
It's not a temple.
Adam (34:16):
Based on the mask series, many temples appeared or lost
cities
PJ (34:21):
Touche,
Adam (34:22):
appear to be in caves.
PJ (34:23):
you win, sir, you win.
Also, where's the self-esteem ofSly and Cliff at, at this point
in time that they take this kindof brutalization?
'cause it's bad.
Adam (34:33):
Yeah, they've been beat down for sure.
Miles tells them.
After belittling them, we've gotwork to do.
We're gonna blast our way intoAyers Rock, which right on
venom, back to your old ways ofblowing holes into mountains to
get in.
meanwhile, Matt goes to theindigenous leader and shows him
(34:53):
a picture of Scott and theleader says the sky, God, but
you have come too late toworship him.
We have sealed him forever inthe rock, and Matt says, you
must release the boy.
He isn't the sky God.
He's my son.
PJ (35:06):
Okay.
So I'm a little bit troubled bythis.
'cause again, the tagline saythat TBOs
Adam (35:13):
Yeah.
PJ (35:13):
God, I.
Adam (35:14):
Right?
PJ (35:14):
now, the white boy has become the God.
So once again, the criteria forbecoming the sky God is to slide
down Uluru on
Adam (35:25):
Yeah.
PJ (35:27):
I really think this is like a troublesome trope of the white
person coming in to become theleader
Adam (35:32):
white.
PJ (35:33):
or
Adam (35:33):
Yeah.
PJ (35:33):
of the indigenous tribe.
Adam (35:35):
Quite literally the white savior
PJ (35:37):
Exactly.
Adam (35:39):
now Switchblade shows up and again, standard procedure
for venom just opens fire onUluru.
PJ (35:45):
they're a terrorist organization, so
Adam (35:47):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (35:48):
I'll get behind on this one.
Like this might be a standard
Adam (35:50):
Yeah,
PJ (35:51):
but like they don't give a rat's ass.
Like they're just gonna destroystuff
Adam (35:53):
A boulder from above falls and crushes Thunder Hawk, and,
you know, again, back toboulders as the preferred weapon
of venom.
Hooray.
PJ (36:01):
effective.
Adam (36:02):
we're back.
Baby.
Uh, thunder Hawk is so damagedthat Matt and Bruce can't even
get to their masks.
this is actually a really cooltwist in the episode.
PJ (36:13):
I agree.
It was so cool in so many waysbecause you don't have Thunder
Hawk, you don't have theirmasks.
to me it was just such adisappointment that we don't get
to play it out even further.
actually, what just occurred tome is interesting is that Mask
knows that Venom is there.
Venom actually doesn't know thatmask is there this entire
episode.
Adam (36:34):
Oh, that's true.
That's a great point.
They have not even identifiedmasks yet.
PJ (36:37):
Yeah.
We didn't have
Adam (36:38):
Excellent point,
PJ (36:39):
battle.
Bruce and Matt, despite theirloud laughing, have, managed to
evade venom.
So, I mean, they actually areoperating in the shadows at this
point in time.
Adam (36:48):
now they get in touch with Brad, and he's still 10 miles
away, but he uses condors like,you know, super speed mach one
ability to break the soundbarrier on the ground and get to
them right away.
We've seen this before, haven'twe?
PJ (37:03):
Yeah, it's a cool recall of a power.
and they didn't make a point tobe like, ah, I'm using super
speed.
But they just, used theanimation.
It was like, oh, nice
Adam (37:10):
Right?
Brad arrives and he creates ahologram of Uluru transforming
into a giant rock monster, whichscares venom away, and then
hilariously, he turns the rockmonster on the indigenous
Australians and says, releasethe sky, God from the temple.
(37:30):
He has missions to perform inother places.
Release him.
Now I command you, and I justlove that Brad's best play here
in his mind is to scare thesimple people.
PJ (37:47):
that's a good point.
so now they believe in the Mimieven more,
Adam (37:51):
exactly.
PJ (37:52):
let's, add an additional aspect to their religion.
Adam (37:56):
He's violated the prime directive by adding new chapters
to their ancient beliefs.
PJ (38:04):
yeah, because, because, uh, MASK has done a great job of not
violating the prime directivewith any
Adam (38:10):
Yeah.
PJ (38:10):
they've encountered.
Adam (38:14):
Well, Scott and t Bobb are released and Scott says, dad,
we're okay.
And t Bobb says, and in a newincome tax bracket, so first no
kid gets that joke.
And two, Matt's a billionaire.
So no matter what, treasuretreasures in there, assuming
they're keeping it by what Tbosaid, it's not going to impact
(38:36):
Matt's taxes.
So just wanna put that outthere.
PJ (38:41):
Also, Matt doesn't pay taxes.
Adam (38:44):
That is very true as well.
one of the, uh, indigenouspeople says, my people are happy
knowing that the giant Mimisleeps inside the rock.
So the indigenous leader takesthe treasure back from T Bobb to
return it to the temple.
T Bobb asked Scott to loan him anickel and everyone laughs.
PJ (39:06):
So I wanna be very clear.
T Bob's disappointed because hewas hoping to steal their
treasures despite being awash inwealth.
Like he
Adam (39:17):
yeah,
PJ (39:18):
more.
Adam (39:18):
yeah.
And also, what did he need thenickel for?
That's, that's just.
Well, uproarious laughter fadeto black and we cut to the more,
you know, Scott is looking forhis comb and t Bobb reaches up
into a cabinet above the counterwhere a glass bottle of pills
(39:39):
falls and shatters on the floor,this summons Matt, who says, T
bobb, if you ever need anythingfrom a medicine cabinet, ask an
adult medicines can bedangerous.
And uh, you know, especially ifthey're in non shatterproof
glass bottles.
PJ (39:53):
cabinets are typically the bathroom.
this really looks like akitchen,
Adam (39:58):
Yeah,
PJ (39:58):
a bathroom, this is a palatial bathroom.
it's just gigantic.
Adam (40:04):
I know.
PJ (40:05):
Adam, what was in that bottle that upset Matt so much?
was it poison?
Adam (40:09):
Well, why would he keep poisoning around?
How do you keep someone asleepafter they've fallen in a
ravine?
PJ (40:18):
Row hypno.
Adam (40:21):
Well, so that's, that's the lesson is, um, ask an adults
for something from a medicinecabinet.
that's the episode.
Uh, let's take a look at ourawards.
I mean, the Buddy Hawks Award,this, that's what the name of
this episode should be.
PJ (40:33):
Yeah.
It really ought to be, uh, Imean, the writers rack up more
for their lifetime achievementaward very easily.
Once again, n
Adam (40:41):
yeah, I mean, there's so many to, to even point out.
I don't even know if we can
PJ (40:45):
with what exception I'm gonna get to, I mean, the
characters, like where, whereasthey're probably really subtly
like, you know, interactingpoorly with these guys don't
have a whole lot of overt stuff.
I mean, the writers basicallyjust are, you know, trashed on
the floor here.
I will say the Bruce commentabout the Mimi Show and then
(41:05):
Matt laughing is probably the,the closest where it's kind of
like the belittlement of thepeople, within the episode.
Adam (41:11):
yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna go, uh, in that note.
I'd say Brad with the Rockmonster.
PJ (41:16):
Okay,
Adam (41:17):
Okay, how about the Sly Racks Ragdoll Award?
PJ (41:21):
I mean, really it's Scott and t Bobb, uh, slide in on
Uluru, like to their
Adam (41:27):
Yeah.
PJ (41:28):
That to
Adam (41:28):
No, they're, I agreed a hundred percent RIP Scott and t
Bobb.
See you next episode.
Father of the Year award.
I think it's pretty obvious.
PJ (41:37):
yeah.
Bringing Scott yet again to adangerous place.
Very
Adam (41:40):
Yeah.
Finally, the Roy Batty moment ofthe episode.
PJ (41:45):
I really thought it was laughing at t.
Bob's ineptitude with theboomerang.
I mean, you're really
Adam (41:50):
Yeah.
PJ (41:50):
asking a lot to laugh at someone.
They fuck up with a weapon.
Like at what point in time
Adam (41:55):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
PJ (41:56):
and just throw it at Matt?
Adam (41:58):
Agreed.
they gotta stop laughing at TeeBob's pain.
Is this episode Panda Poo?
PJ (42:03):
Yeah.
okay, we're back in this commontrope of venom looking into some
sort of lost treasure slashpower.
but I kept wondering, is theoutback sun getting to
everybody?
Because everyone feels just alittle lazy The stakes are
Adam (42:19):
Yeah.
PJ (42:19):
it's kind of bottom barrel for venom to be trying to rip
off an indigenous people.
so I'm not sure if they ranoutta that Prime minister's
money or that finance minister'smoney.
Adam (42:29):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (42:30):
the CL plan's not as clever as we've seen before.
Not even as clever as the planwe've seen last time we were in
Australia and we get another baddepiction of the people of
Australia.
So overall, I'm killing thislazy panda poo
Adam (42:45):
I agree.
there are no stakes for Venomhere.
we don't even really understandwhat it is they're going for.
I don't believe Miles ever saysthere is a temple hidden in this
rock that contains treasuresbeyond your wildest imagination.
Like, just that alone would befine.
(43:06):
but he's also, by the way, noteven putting the indigenous
Australians in any danger.
He's just.
Using holograms to dupe them forme it's Poo because it's barely
an episode of mask.
I mean, note that the masksactually get trapped in a
damaged thunder hawk, so theycan't even use them.
(43:27):
switchblade gets used with thelasers.
Hocus pocus gets used, the masscomputer gets used, but that's
kind of it.
So it's, it's panda poo.
Now, we wanted to open up a newsection of our episodes, kind of
like the re writer's corner, totalk about, you know, where the
episode goes wrong and how couldit have been changed to make it
(43:48):
go right.
PJ (43:50):
Here's the thing,
Adam (43:50):
Okay.
PJ (43:51):
just to toot some horns here for a second.
Adam is an accomplished writer,both of games, and television.
Adam (43:58):
all of that is a lie Writer, yes.
Accomplished, maybe not.
PJ (44:02):
He created the show, the Pinkertons.
So that was
Adam (44:05):
Mm.
Loved by dozens.
PJ (44:08):
Hey, more shows than I've made.
wanna ask you a question.
From a writer's standpoint.
Adam (44:15):
Mm-hmm.
PJ (44:16):
this, you've operated in this.
So where does this episode gowrong?
Adam (44:22):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the very firstthing you have to do, and I
pointed this out in the poosection, is you have to like,
what are the stakes?
Here's how you can set up anyepisode of mask.
Just the format venom threatensto blink.
Unless blank, like right there.
That's the first thing you needto know in a mask episode.
So if we were to take today'sepisode and put it into that
(44:43):
framework, venom threatens tonothing or else nothing like
that's why this episode doesn'twork because there is no venom
plot here.
and you pointed out thecharacters seem really lazy,
especially masks seems verylazy.
They're lazy'cause there's nourgency.
And there's no urgency becausethere are no stakes to the
(45:05):
episode.
No one's in danger until theonly time there are stakes are
when
PJ (45:10):
I, I mean, when they're pounding on Uluru and Scott and
tbo
Adam (45:14):
cut.
PJ (45:15):
in there.
That's it.
Adam (45:16):
right.
So Scott and t Bobb get trappedin there, and then suddenly the
stakes are very high becauseMatt's son is in danger.
PJ (45:22):
I.
Adam (45:23):
of it had to do with Venom's plot.
In fact, the reason that Scottand t Bobb are entombed beneath
Uluru is because Matt decided tobring them along into the
Australian Outback because hethought he'd be safer with them,
right?
So right there, it's like, well,Matt, you're incompetent.
And again, going back to what wesaid at the beginning of this
(45:44):
episode, we do love mask, but ifwe're gonna poke holes at it,
Matt is incompetent in thisepisode, he brings them to this
place.
And the only stakes that matterare Scott and t Bobb, trapped
Uluru.
And it's, and it's his fault.
I mean, those are two areaswhere the episode goes, very,
very wrong.
if I'm gonna go straight up, atypical episode of Mask Miles,
(46:08):
threatens to blow up Uluruunless the indigenous
Australians agree to show himthe location of the hidden
temple filled with treasure.
Right.
Okay.
That is a little bit goofball,but it would work as a mask
episode, right?
PJ (46:26):
Yeah.
It's very akin to a greatepisode that we've talked about
in the past.
It's assault on liberty, Butyou're a hundred percent right
that, let's create some kind ofreal stakes here that's
important to the people on theground.
Adam (46:40):
But that is it for episode 37.
Episode 38 is coming up next.
PJ (46:46):
Yeah, a really important note.
I did the math wrong last time,so I'll correct myself now.
The next episode is the midpointof the entire series.
Um, so we've
Adam (46:56):
Crazy.
PJ (46:57):
up to this point in time.
We've got 38 and then 37 moreepisodes after that.
So after next episode, it's alldownhill and we're
Adam (47:05):
crazy.
PJ (47:05):
a ton of new characters
Adam (47:07):
cannot wait to get into the new characters.
It's gonna be a blast.
PJ (47:11):
that'll be awesome.
Adam (47:12):
rounding out the first half of the series is episode
38.
The Curse of Solomon's GorgeMask goes to Africa to stop
venom.
Who has discovered KingSolomon's treasures?
PJ (47:23):
We're going back to the country of Africa.
Adam (47:30):
Oh, wonderful.
Very good mask.
you never failed to amaze us.
looking forward to that one.
Looking forward to having youjoin us, but for now, we have to
transform and head back to hq.
I am Adam Moore.
PJ (47:42):
And I am PJ McNerney.
Adam (47:44):
Bye-bye.
PJ (47:45):
Bye bye.
The mobile armored podcast showis written, produced and edited.
Bye Adam Moore.
And PJ McNerney.
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