December 21, 2024 • 26 mins
Ever received a lap dance with your best friend? We did, and let us tell you, it was an unforgettable experience that pushed our boundaries in the most unexpected ways. Our night at the strip club was more than just a wild adventure; it was a journey into the dynamics of comfort zones and friendship. As we navigated through initial nerves and embraced the surprises that came our way, we found ourselves laughing at the awkwardness and cherishing the growth of our supportive bond.
Obsessive jealousy, anyone? We're tackling “Rebecca Syndrome” — that intense, often irrational jealousy towards a partner's ex, as inspired by the 1938 novel "Rebecca." Through sharing our personal anecdotes, we unravel how unresolved childhood woes can manifest into this syndrome, creating unnecessary anxiety and tension in relationships. Alongside, we explore misunderstood defense mechanisms and highlight the importance of self-awareness and understanding these behaviors in maintaining healthy relationships.
Switching gears, we dive into the fascinating world of how our emotional states shape our music preferences and lifestyle choices. From discovering new music genres that eschew lyrical content to experiencing the benefits of taking breaks from alcohol, we discuss the positive changes that come with mindful living. As we invite you to share your own messy, hilarious stories, we promise to keep our community vibrant and engaged. So, grab your mocktails and join us, Ryan Frankofsky and Kelly Misgorski, on this fun-filled ride!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I felt like an angry old hag yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I feel you, and then she was like licking in my ear.
I was like oh.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I don't think I cleaned that wax out, but thanks
for getting it.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I am a mess.
I'm imperfectly aspiring to noteven be perfect, but just be a
better version.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, you're pretty fucked up too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So misunderstood it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Misunderstood.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I feel like I'm teaching my four-year-old how to
talk right now.
So it's like a phenomenon,phenomenon, phenomenon now,
who's the four-year-old needingto be taught?
Kind of like obsessive and likedangerous right like date lines
real I've had to getrestraining orders before oh
yeah, he used you for a greencard when you move a million
(00:46):
times, you don't fucking knowwho you are.
Sometimes, no, it takes aminute don't we're like wait,
who are we?
Are we gonna be here forever?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm so happy when santa claus comes to town I know
I've been a naughty boy me too.
Let's talk about our recentexcursion.
Hi, this is kelly musgorski andryan frankowski thank you for
listening to.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Mocktails are messy I'm loving your sweater girl.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thank you, I'm getting into the christmas
spirit.
You know, thanksgiving's overand it's time for christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Now, where my hoes at cheers got some hot cocoa, we
are drinking the spirit oftequila, non-alcoholic Mexican
agave, american oak free spirits, the tequila alternative that
you all want to have for yourspicy, skinny margaritas.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm so happy when Santa Claus comes to town.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I know I've been a naughty boy Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's talk about our recent excursion.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh my God, body boy, me too.
Let's talk about our recentexcursion.
Oh my god, you were the bestwhen it came to gift giving this
year for my birthday, 11, 11was lit at cheerleaders of the
strip club in the strip district.
No pun intended, that wasreally good kelly came to your
party.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, um, I brought my mother-in-law, I got you the
gentleman's package, what everyguy goes to the strip club, what
they want, and I was able to dothat for you and we actually
did it together.
That was my first lap dance,probably not yours oh, no, no,
no, I've had multiple lap dancesokay.
So we got a lap dance together.
(02:26):
Though First time together, myfirst time, we held hands.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We both like instantly, like just held hands,
Like we were like we need tolike, experience this and, like
I, was a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, because we could like grip each other's
hand when it was like a littlemuch.
I was like like sitting in thecorner and I'm like I'll just
watch, and she was like sit nextto him.
Oh my god, she was a boss andshe's like how do you know each
other?
And we were like, um, we areco-hosts, but you know, we also
dated before and I'm married tohis best friend now and we're
(03:01):
best friends and she loved ityeah, she was like oh, and then
she was like you're so hot, liketo you and um I was impressed.
I think it was the cologne, Ithink that's what it was you
were looking pretty fly and thenshe like, licked my chest and
was like she's like, and youtaste good and then she
(03:21):
straddled both of us.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I hate to say this but like, sometimes you're kind
of like stripper, like are theyclean, like that was my first
time, yeah and then she's likesucking, she's like licking in
my ear and I'm like oh, that wastoo much.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I was like oh, I don't think I cleaned that wax
out, but thanks for getting itand then.
So I guess she goes, she goes.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You guys can touch me anywhere you want except for my
kitty but then she touched meand you and we had clothes on,
so it wasn't like she actuallytouched it, like without the
fabric.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There you can't touch my, and then she ended up like
blowing on z and on your withher mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I wasn't upset about it what are these?
Parameters like well, becauseshe is the entertainer, she's
the talent you can do whatevershe wants to you not consent
that's a good point.
You know what I'm?
Saying like I guess as a manyou're not gonna be like upset
if she grabs you down there.
As a girl I can.
I can only imagine that wouldhave been a little violating if
you're like, hey, this is theone-way street I was just like
(04:29):
shocked, you know I mean, Ithink the thing about you is
like sometimes, like when youpush the boundary too too far,
and then you're like whoa, whoa,like back it up yeah like
you're like very like cool girl,like whatever, blah, blah, blah
, and then like that did kind ofmake you a little uncomfortable
(04:49):
.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, I think it made me uncomfortable because it and
I wasn't expecting that well,she blew.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She was giving me raspberries on my I love
raspberries on my I don't know,so what did?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
you think of it like that's not what I was expecting
heaven.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I was like I can only like it's.
It's actually a little sad whenyou're doing it on your own.
You're kind of like this islike not as memorable because,
like, I'm not like with a personthat I'm gonna like we're gonna
remember this forever.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, together to experience it with your
bestie.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That was special.
It was so special and I canonly imagine like why our
friends, the two couples thatwere the swingers that came,
with us they were like this islike our MO.
We come here like once a month.
It's so much fun.
And I'm like now I can see whylike those kind of cool couples
would be like this is totallyour speed.
And I got a voice note actuallyright before we came into the
(05:46):
studio.
It was from my relatives.
I don't know if he meant tosend it, it was an audio message
and it was of my aunt.
She was like what was yourexperience at like cheerleaders?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
my uncle was recording her and she wasn't
aware and she's like in yourmind's eye what were you
expecting before you walked inthere?
Worse, worse.
It was actually so much betterthan I thought it would be
really.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes dirty old men and not that attractive you know, I
thought it was going to beterrible with a bunch of old men
in there, but she's like, itwas actually really kind of
classy.
They were kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
My mother-in-law was wow, that was so artistic.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Isn't it weird to think like 15 years ago we would
never be able to bring ourparents or my grandparents?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I did get a really weird like voicemail today.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh God, I don't know.
Is it a scam artist?
I don't know what to thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It just reminds me of something in high school, like
someone told me that I was inlike porno and I thought, oh my
god, was I like recorded,without knowing?
And I drove to their house andI looked at the porno and the
bitch looked nothing like me sothey were just fucking with you
they were fucking with me Ithink unless there's some people
(07:07):
that can't really recognizefaces and stuff.
I don't know, but I got thisreally weird message today.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Hi darling, I'm just calling in regards to Mocktails,
are Messy Seems to be theco-host that I'd like to do.
An expose on your OnlyFans isreally interesting.
It is about doing an articleabout a messy mama of two.
So if you could give me a callback, I'd like to get your work
to put into the article.
(07:34):
It's going to launch by Monday,so you want to give a response
to this article coming out.
I spoke with your publicist.
I'm just not sure how to feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So I wanted to talk about Rebecca syndrome.
It is a new thing.
We all know what a Karen isright.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Oh my God, I hate Karen.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So now there's another term, like name, coined
as like a syndrome, and it'sRebecca, did you just get a
little aggressive, like slappingthe table?
I did.
Oh, my God.
I wish it was your ass though,what is rebecca syndrome, a term
used to describe obsessivefeelings about a partner's past?
(08:14):
You?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
were describing this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I can't really follow it yeah, so it's like a past, a
partner's past relationship,and it it's like, especially,
like you know, their exes.
Um, it comes from a characterin a novel, the 1938 novel
called rebecca, and rebeccastruggles with jealousy and
insecurity.
Her symptoms are, you know,people with this syndrome often
(08:43):
compare themselves to theirpartner's exes, feeling
inadequate or insecure, and itit leads to like obsessive,
compulsive thoughts about theacts and anxiety about their
relationship.
Um, you know the root causes.
Um, according to experts, thisis like a psych, like
(09:03):
psychologists actually are awareof this syndrome.
Now it's feelings of like stemfrom unresolved issues in
childhood, unfortunately, likefeeling overlooked by family,
and these past experiences kindof like affect how someone views
(09:24):
current relationships.
So they kind of get feeloverlooked and they get fixated
on this ex and they just can'tstop thinking about them, like,
have you ever met anyone likethis?
Didn't you have an ex like thatbefore?
That was like kind like like areally short thing.
You broke it off because itkind of like freaked you out.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes, they got obsessed with your ass.
It was, they were I.
I mean I shouldn't say theirname.
I don't know if we should, pobs, we'll just say it's pobs.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He was so sweet so like that.
He did have a lot of traumagrowing up and that's why you
know he does fit this syndrome.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But he just oh wait, and that crazy girl from bar
louis, oh that one too, yeahwell, she's obsessed with me and
it's like girl but anyways, byno lie yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you were trying to hang out with this person,
you're trying to go on dates,and all they wanted to talk
about was your ex yeah, and theywere like your ex used you for
a green card.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
your ex, like I saw him at the club, like um, you're
still thinking about your ex,like you won't say I love you
because you're still in lovewith your ex.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It was just like but that wasn't true.
None of it was true, right.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
No, but you know what's so fucked up about these
people.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because I feel like I'm pretty like intuitive,
social, intelligent, smartenough, like maybe not SAT smart
, like we said enough.
Like maybe not sat smart, likewe said yeah.
But I was like am I gettinggaslit?
Like I was starting to believeit.
They were like, oh yeah, heused you for a green card.
You know you're still in lovewith.
I'm.
Like I'm not in love with them,like what the fuck?
And then I'm like I'm theydidn't use me for a green card,
(10:59):
like I wanted to get married,like it was just so bizarre yeah
, have you ever had a rebeccasyndrome and can we?
say it in layman's terms Becauseit's still a little confusing.
So it's your new partner, likeyour new boyfriend or your new
girlfriend is obsessed with yourprevious relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like that ex, exactly Obsessed about it.
It's like a jealousy, it's likean insecure thing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
A lot of insecurity going on today.
I have not ever had that happento me.
I have had friends like thatand it kind of like freaked me
out and I kind of felt I don'teven know if I want to be like
friends with this person becauselike they just seem kind of
like obsessive and likedangerous right like date lines
real exactly, and I'm like youknow what like I, and I've also
had friends kind of get a littleobsessed with me.
(11:50):
That um to the point where oh,my god, they're so obsessed, I'm
kind of speaking from like realexperiences people, just I'm
teasing, you have like you know,latched on really hard.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I've no, I know you've had that happen to you as
well, and it's like they wantto claim you as like their best
friend or like something likethat.
And it's like they're justalways want to be where you're
going and they keep calling youand they keep texting, yeah,
like where are you?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
and stuff and it's like like why aren't you
responding?
I've had to get restrainingorders before.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
What?
Yeah, I don't know if I knewthat.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Did you tell me that?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It that?
Yeah, this person, um, it wasin high school.
This person was hiding behindtrees and bushes and houses
nearby, trying to look into myhouse to see where I was.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Wait, I vaguely remember wouldn't stop calling,
you told me right yeah, I didhave to get a restraining order
before I know this person um notpersonally okay, that's creepy
cow, I'm sorry yeah, so it thisdoes.
This is a disorder that existsyeah, fuck, that's kind of sad
and like that's like a realthing, like you gotta be careful
(12:56):
I wanted to talk aboutmisunderstood defense mechanisms
.
Yeah, what exactly does?
So you're like really into likethese new trends and like I
can't really follow it'sinteresting I think it's
happened to both of us okay, somisunderstood it or
misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I feel like I'm teaching my four-year-old how to
talk right now um defensemechanisms okay yeah, I wanted
to have like a thoughtfulreflection and I did write this
down because I wanted it to benot like knee jerk.
Insensitive Mental healthdisorders do exist and I'm not
here to like attack somebody orshame somebody.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And I mean maybe it's more acknowledged than ever,
that's it Misunderstood defensemechanisms.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, so it's like a phenomenon, phenomenon,
phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Now who's the?
A phenomenon, phenomenon,phenomenon.
Now who's the?
Four-year-old?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
needing to be taught Shut up, you bitch.
I think we've all encounteredit.
Actually, it's when people feelthe need to defend themselves,
even when it's not about them.
So I'm telling you somethingabout my day and then you start
defending yourself.
Picture this you're in aconversation, sharing your
thoughts or your experiences.
Someone suddenly feels the urgeto like defend their stance or
(14:11):
their choices that you didn'task anything about, by the way,
and they may get likeemotionally charged, even as if
you're personally attacking them, and it's like you're just
telling them about your day yeahand this reaction can feel
really confusing to likesomebody.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, and this reaction can feel really
confusing to like somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yes, you know, and probably like both parties.
I don't know, and especiallylike when your intent as like a
speaker, to your friend issimply to just like share your
perspective about your day.
Have you had this happen to youyeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think a lot of times I just okay, I'm going to
roll with it, Like I just wantthem to like calm down.
I love to placate people I'mlike oh my God, I am so like
there's a lot of fucking crazypeople in real estate Like you
know, and so there was somebodyrecently, like another agent
from another company, that waslike I don't need any of that, I
(15:15):
don't want people being around,I need my privacy with my
clients when I'm doing theshowing.
And I'm like, okay, I could dotwo different reactions to this
craziness.
I could either put her in herplace and say like chill the F
out.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Or I could placate and be like kill them with
kindness.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So I'm like I'm going to kill them with kindness and
it felt so much better and thenthey felt like kind of dumb.
They were like oh, you are sokind, I'm sorry.
Like I didn't mean to go off onyou.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And I'm like it's totally okay, I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'm a new agent.
I would be more than happy togive your privacy with you and
your client.
So I think a lot of times it'sjust you really have to not get
wound up and not really takeoffense to it, because usually
they are just like and you knowwe've all been there.
But I think me and you are alittle bit more in tune with
(16:11):
like reality where we're like,hey, we're not going to be
paranoid and like even if thatperson is kind of coming for us
like shady we're like hey,whatever, we love comedy and you
know you crack a joke, I cracka joke, I have thick skin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You hopefully do yeah , yeah, no, oh my gosh, I've had
my ass chewed too many times bysexually or like oh, not
sexually um.
So I kind of did like someresearch.
It said, like what's going onhere in these moments?
In what moments in thesemoments where people get like
very defensive or they have thisknee-j jerk reaction and they
(16:46):
kind of like like they thinkyou're talking shit about them.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, they're paranoid.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, they're like.
It's like a misunderstooddefense mechanism where they're
just like yeah going off.
Nothing was intended to upsetanyone, right like you're
usually just telling them, likea story about your day yeah, or
like you said at work, likesomeone's going off on you when
you're just like trying to showa house at the same time, or you
you need to go in there forsomething you know I dug a
(17:12):
little deeper with that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Apparently she's gotten like clients taken from
her meaning, like the clientwasn't happy with them and then
they.
She thought I was lurking inthe, you know see, here's the
thing.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She sees you.
You're a likable person.
Oh, he's here to steal my girl.
It's mr still your girl.
Oh, mr still your client no,you're not trying to do that.
You're just like chilling.
It boils down to likeindividuals, experiences and
backgrounds.
What you just said, like you'relike, oh, maybe she thought I
was trying to steal her client.
Or like they've experiencedcertain traumas in the past,
(17:47):
right, um so, people, this iswhat I think.
This is how we can beinsensitive.
Sometimes we don't carry likeour traumas and our insecurities
with us, but a lot of peoplecarry their insecurities, their
past conflict flicks and theirtraumas with them 24, seven and
(18:09):
they just have like these kneejerk reactions.
They're just like feeling theiremotions and it's kind of like
their identity, right, it's likethey're under threat.
It's like, oh my gosh, thisperson is threat to me.
You know, even if that's notthe case, how they're acting can
create like unnecessarytensions.
It's hard because it doesn'tjust affect them, it affects the
person they're communicatingwith or trying to communicate
(18:31):
with.
So, basically, like what yousaid is where you how to
navigate.
It would just be to like haveempathy kill them with kindness.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I've always loved that.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Don't get defensive, like you said.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You don't get that way and well, I mean, I think
we've all been there where wehave just let it snap, because
every now and then we're tiredpmsing.
Like I noticed, like I have ashort fuse when I don't have a
lot of sleep oh, sleep really.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that's a big thing for me as well.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Or don't work out.
Oh, working out has been mysaving grace.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, Now do you end up asking like open-ended
questions to kind of get to theroot of it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
sometimes I usually just try to be you open up to me
.
I am no judgment becausetruthfully like I am a mess.
I'm imperfectly aspiring to noteven be perfect, but just be a
better version.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, you're pretty fucked up too, oh yeah, as am I.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean like I struggle with, like identity
issues.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
When you move a million times, you don't fucking
know who you are.
Sometimes.
No, it takes a minute.
You don't?
I understand that, you don't?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You get it, you get it, you get it Like we're like
wait, who are we?
Are we going to be here forever?
Like even my brother wrote thisreally sweet birthday card and
he's like hope you're here foranother year, like hope you
don't leave us, like hope you'renot a flight risk.
And I was like that was sosweet and I wanted to like give
him a hug and just say, like youare like my boy know he means
(20:01):
so much to you, he's my ride ordie and I know that, like you
know, me and him have like hadour ups and downs and like
that's just normal, like youknow, with siblings, but I know
him and your sister-in-law justmean the world to you and you're
really blessed to have themwell, you as well.
I mean we have to say like ourfamily has shaped us and yeah we
lean on them for not onlyemotional support, but like also
, we don't need a millionfriends no, I need like two
(20:22):
friends yeah like.
I mean, I could name like fiveI don't have time for that yeah,
and that's all good right we'regetting old now, do you ever
get in like a mood with yourtaste of music?
oh yeah, I'm always like tophits and then all of a sudden I
went skirt and like love now,like rufus and like disclosure,
which are like I don't even knowwhat genre that is.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's not like disco type of thing, or?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Is it like electronic ?
Electronic, yeah, yeah, likeI've been into the electronic
now because Because you saw themlive right.
I did and I was like fuck, likemy life is like changed forever
.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, so sometimes do you feel like maybe you don't
want to hear like words, likeit's too much to hear the words
and stuff yeah, like the lyricsnow bother me in some music fuck
.
That's what I want to talk about.
When I'm pmsing, my taste formusic changes drastically
wherever I'm at in my cycle.
When I'm like on my cycle I'mlistening to, like stevie nicks,
cheryl crow, the dixie chicks,billy joel, the beatles, the who
(21:17):
, you know, just older stuff,and it's almost like that older
music.
It has more creative expression, it's meaningful and
storytelling.
And then you get to like thestuff.
Now that's more current, themajor pop stuff.
It feels commercialized.
It shifts towardsconsumer-driven narratives,
cheating and substance substanceabuse.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mind control You're so right Rather than genuine
expression, I think, what reallybothered me.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I was sober for three weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I did not touch alcohol for three weeks.
Thank you.
You know what I'm really proudof it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Intermittently so.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Intermittent.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And when I was doing it it's like I't want to hear
like shabuzy songs oh god, bartipsy it's like I just didn't
want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I love it, but it's like I'm past it, like if it was
a year ago I'd probably be likeoh god, give me a shot it's
like it's well, it's like itmakes.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's like it kind of made me mad.
It's like I don't want to takea shot.
Why are we singing about likegive me another shot of whiskey?
Like I don't fucking want thatwell, you know what?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I want to listen to it.
I think it's honestly heprobably has a deal with like
jameson jack.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's what I say like commercialized, and that's
what I'm saying.
It's like I felt like an angryold hag.
It's like I didn't.
It's like I don't want to hearabout this an angry old hag.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Maybe it's because I was anti-alcohol.
Me too For that time period.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Because I was like I'm not doing it, like I just
I'm not going to have that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And I didn't push you on that For the record, I never
pushed it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You did not.
I do think that you inspired me, though.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You said in those three weeks your anxiety just
disappeared, it dissipated.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So you're saying like just from taking a break, yeah,
you're more like wow, I'm afirm believer.
And like don't drink every week.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Go like one, two, three weeks between when you
drink cleanse and yesterdayafter and that's like everything
, when people say oh I just haveone drink or two drinks on a
friday.
Give your body like a fullthree week, even a month break I
know you recommended like sixweeks everything that is gonna
make progress and you're gonnasee a noticeable change, like I
(23:28):
notice like when I go from likeeating like poorly to like six
weeks of eating really healthy.
I really see a change here'sthe thing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you can struggle through those six weeks really
might not be shit to you anymore.
But like, like yeah.
I don't know.
Three weeks I was PMSing hard.
I was very, like you know,irritated.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Well, is that because you had your period before you
started and now you're having it?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm about to get it again, yeah, and so it's almost
like I'm going through thiscycle.
I was like, okay, I did, I, Idid.
Good, I'm just gonna like havea little something I didn't have
as much as I normally wouldhave, which I'm impressed yeah,
and that's a mind.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Maybe this is like it's breaks, like you just have
to do breaks to remember.
Hey, like build up yourtolerance, like there was an
article about a tea breakbecause after the pandemic,
everybody was like smoking tonsof weed, drinking tons of wine
and like booze and everybodyneeded a tea break, which t
stands for tolerance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So, like then, it was like okay, now we can get back
to a healthy, moderated drinkingor smoking pot I think that if
you're a drinker, like obviouslylike sugar is not good for you
either, or like saturated fatsand stuff, but I would say like
my new thing is every two orthree weeks, yeah maybe I enjoy
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something or like.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I know it can get a little heavy over the holidays,
but which is fun like everybodyshould have fun and do whatever
is best for their lifestyle yeahfor me, like it just, I don't
want it or need it.
But I'm just thinking about myhealth down the line exactly
like I want to age backwardslike let's, let's not get it
twisted.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's a lot to do with vanity which I don't know if
that's entirely possible but,recently you have kind of aged
backwards.
Why do you still look like sucha pumpkin face?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Like back in those photos.
My face was like, so it waslike inflamed with water.
I looked like a little chubby.
That is embarrassing.
That is my birthday two yearsago.
I was so messy Like it wasafter like the rehearsal dinner
for my brother andsister-in-law's wedding oh bad.
And mine is just typical drunkI it was after the rehearsal
dinner for my brother andsister-in-law's wedding, Uh-huh
Bad.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Mine is just typical drunk.
I was like 20.
I wasn't even 21 yet, like you.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The eyes glazed over the eyes glazed over.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's scary.
It's actually scary to look at.
I'd never want to be in thatsituation again, and neither
would you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
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italian always.
I've never heard of a hundredis it for?
Christmas.
I felt like an angry old hag yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I feel you, and then she was like licking in my ear.
I was like oh.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I don't think I cleaned that wax out, but thanks
for getting it.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I am a mess.
I'm imperfectly aspiring to noteven be perfect, but just be a
better version.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, you're pretty fucked up too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So misunderstood it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Misunderstood.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I feel like I'm teaching my four-year-old how to
talk right now.
So it's like a phenomenon,phenomenon, phenomenon now,
who's the four-year-old needingto be taught?
Kind of like obsessive and likedangerous right like date lines
real I've had to getrestraining orders before oh
yeah, he used you for a greencard when you move a million
(00:46):
times, you don't fucking knowwho you are.
Sometimes, no, it takes aminute don't we're like wait,
who are we?
Are we gonna be here forever?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm so happy when santa claus comes to town I know
I've been a naughty boy me too.
Let's talk about our recentexcursion.
Hi, this is kelly musgorski andryan frankowski thank you for
listening to.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Mocktails are messy I'm loving your sweater girl.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thank you, I'm getting into the christmas
spirit.
You know, thanksgiving's overand it's time for christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Now, where my hoes at cheers got some hot cocoa, we
are drinking the spirit oftequila, non-alcoholic Mexican
agave, american oak free spirits, the tequila alternative that
you all want to have for yourspicy, skinny margaritas.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm so happy when Santa Claus comes to town.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I know I've been a naughty boy Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's talk about our recent excursion.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh my God, body boy, me too.
Let's talk about our recentexcursion.
Oh my god, you were the bestwhen it came to gift giving this
year for my birthday, 11, 11was lit at cheerleaders of the
strip club in the strip district.
No pun intended, that wasreally good kelly came to your
party.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, um, I brought my mother-in-law, I got you the
gentleman's package, what everyguy goes to the strip club, what
they want, and I was able to dothat for you and we actually
did it together.
That was my first lap dance,probably not yours oh, no, no,
no, I've had multiple lap dancesokay.
So we got a lap dance together.
(02:26):
Though First time together, myfirst time, we held hands.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We both like instantly, like just held hands,
Like we were like we need tolike, experience this and, like
I, was a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, because we could like grip each other's
hand when it was like a littlemuch.
I was like like sitting in thecorner and I'm like I'll just
watch, and she was like sit nextto him.
Oh my god, she was a boss andshe's like how do you know each
other?
And we were like, um, we areco-hosts, but you know, we also
dated before and I'm married tohis best friend now and we're
(03:01):
best friends and she loved ityeah, she was like oh, and then
she was like you're so hot, liketo you and um I was impressed.
I think it was the cologne, Ithink that's what it was you
were looking pretty fly and thenshe like, licked my chest and
was like she's like, and youtaste good and then she
(03:21):
straddled both of us.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I hate to say this but like, sometimes you're kind
of like stripper, like are theyclean, like that was my first
time, yeah and then she's likesucking, she's like licking in
my ear and I'm like oh, that wastoo much.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I was like oh, I don't think I cleaned that wax
out, but thanks for getting itand then.
So I guess she goes, she goes.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You guys can touch me anywhere you want except for my
kitty but then she touched meand you and we had clothes on,
so it wasn't like she actuallytouched it, like without the
fabric.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There you can't touch my, and then she ended up like
blowing on z and on your withher mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I wasn't upset about it what are these?
Parameters like well, becauseshe is the entertainer, she's
the talent you can do whatevershe wants to you not consent
that's a good point.
You know what I'm?
Saying like I guess as a manyou're not gonna be like upset
if she grabs you down there.
As a girl I can.
I can only imagine that wouldhave been a little violating if
you're like, hey, this is theone-way street I was just like
(04:29):
shocked, you know I mean, Ithink the thing about you is
like sometimes, like when youpush the boundary too too far,
and then you're like whoa, whoa,like back it up yeah like
you're like very like cool girl,like whatever, blah, blah, blah
, and then like that did kind ofmake you a little uncomfortable
(04:49):
.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, I think it made me uncomfortable because it and
I wasn't expecting that well,she blew.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She was giving me raspberries on my I love
raspberries on my I don't know,so what did?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
you think of it like that's not what I was expecting
heaven.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I was like I can only like it's.
It's actually a little sad whenyou're doing it on your own.
You're kind of like this islike not as memorable because,
like, I'm not like with a personthat I'm gonna like we're gonna
remember this forever.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, together to experience it with your
bestie.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That was special.
It was so special and I canonly imagine like why our
friends, the two couples thatwere the swingers that came,
with us they were like this islike our MO.
We come here like once a month.
It's so much fun.
And I'm like now I can see whylike those kind of cool couples
would be like this is totallyour speed.
And I got a voice note actuallyright before we came into the
(05:46):
studio.
It was from my relatives.
I don't know if he meant tosend it, it was an audio message
and it was of my aunt.
She was like what was yourexperience at like cheerleaders?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
my uncle was recording her and she wasn't
aware and she's like in yourmind's eye what were you
expecting before you walked inthere?
Worse, worse.
It was actually so much betterthan I thought it would be
really.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes dirty old men and not that attractive you know, I
thought it was going to beterrible with a bunch of old men
in there, but she's like, itwas actually really kind of
classy.
They were kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
My mother-in-law was wow, that was so artistic.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Isn't it weird to think like 15 years ago we would
never be able to bring ourparents or my grandparents?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I did get a really weird like voicemail today.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh God, I don't know.
Is it a scam artist?
I don't know what to thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It just reminds me of something in high school, like
someone told me that I was inlike porno and I thought, oh my
god, was I like recorded,without knowing?
And I drove to their house andI looked at the porno and the
bitch looked nothing like me sothey were just fucking with you
they were fucking with me Ithink unless there's some people
(07:07):
that can't really recognizefaces and stuff.
I don't know, but I got thisreally weird message today.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Hi darling, I'm just calling in regards to Mocktails,
are Messy Seems to be theco-host that I'd like to do.
An expose on your OnlyFans isreally interesting.
It is about doing an articleabout a messy mama of two.
So if you could give me a callback, I'd like to get your work
to put into the article.
(07:34):
It's going to launch by Monday,so you want to give a response
to this article coming out.
I spoke with your publicist.
I'm just not sure how to feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So I wanted to talk about Rebecca syndrome.
It is a new thing.
We all know what a Karen isright.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Oh my God, I hate Karen.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So now there's another term, like name, coined
as like a syndrome, and it'sRebecca, did you just get a
little aggressive, like slappingthe table?
I did.
Oh, my God.
I wish it was your ass though,what is rebecca syndrome, a term
used to describe obsessivefeelings about a partner's past?
(08:14):
You?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
were describing this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I can't really follow it yeah, so it's like a past, a
partner's past relationship,and it it's like, especially,
like you know, their exes.
Um, it comes from a characterin a novel, the 1938 novel
called rebecca, and rebeccastruggles with jealousy and
insecurity.
Her symptoms are, you know,people with this syndrome often
(08:43):
compare themselves to theirpartner's exes, feeling
inadequate or insecure, and itit leads to like obsessive,
compulsive thoughts about theacts and anxiety about their
relationship.
Um, you know the root causes.
Um, according to experts, thisis like a psych, like
(09:03):
psychologists actually are awareof this syndrome.
Now it's feelings of like stemfrom unresolved issues in
childhood, unfortunately, likefeeling overlooked by family,
and these past experiences kindof like affect how someone views
(09:24):
current relationships.
So they kind of get feeloverlooked and they get fixated
on this ex and they just can'tstop thinking about them, like,
have you ever met anyone likethis?
Didn't you have an ex like thatbefore?
That was like kind like like areally short thing.
You broke it off because itkind of like freaked you out.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes, they got obsessed with your ass.
It was, they were I.
I mean I shouldn't say theirname.
I don't know if we should, pobs, we'll just say it's pobs.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He was so sweet so like that.
He did have a lot of traumagrowing up and that's why you
know he does fit this syndrome.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But he just oh wait, and that crazy girl from bar
louis, oh that one too, yeahwell, she's obsessed with me and
it's like girl but anyways, byno lie yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you were trying to hang out with this person,
you're trying to go on dates,and all they wanted to talk
about was your ex yeah, and theywere like your ex used you for
a green card.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
your ex, like I saw him at the club, like um, you're
still thinking about your ex,like you won't say I love you
because you're still in lovewith your ex.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It was just like but that wasn't true.
None of it was true, right.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
No, but you know what's so fucked up about these
people.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because I feel like I'm pretty like intuitive,
social, intelligent, smartenough, like maybe not SAT smart
, like we said enough.
Like maybe not sat smart, likewe said yeah.
But I was like am I gettinggaslit?
Like I was starting to believeit.
They were like, oh yeah, heused you for a green card.
You know you're still in lovewith.
I'm.
Like I'm not in love with them,like what the fuck?
And then I'm like I'm theydidn't use me for a green card,
(10:59):
like I wanted to get married,like it was just so bizarre yeah
, have you ever had a rebeccasyndrome and can we?
say it in layman's terms Becauseit's still a little confusing.
So it's your new partner, likeyour new boyfriend or your new
girlfriend is obsessed with yourprevious relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like that ex, exactly Obsessed about it.
It's like a jealousy, it's likean insecure thing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
A lot of insecurity going on today.
I have not ever had that happento me.
I have had friends like thatand it kind of like freaked me
out and I kind of felt I don'teven know if I want to be like
friends with this person becauselike they just seem kind of
like obsessive and likedangerous right like date lines
real exactly, and I'm like youknow what like I, and I've also
had friends kind of get a littleobsessed with me.
(11:50):
That um to the point where oh,my god, they're so obsessed, I'm
kind of speaking from like realexperiences people, just I'm
teasing, you have like you know,latched on really hard.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I've no, I know you've had that happen to you as
well, and it's like they wantto claim you as like their best
friend or like something likethat.
And it's like they're justalways want to be where you're
going and they keep calling youand they keep texting, yeah,
like where are you?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
and stuff and it's like like why aren't you
responding?
I've had to get restrainingorders before.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
What?
Yeah, I don't know if I knewthat.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Did you tell me that?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It that?
Yeah, this person, um, it wasin high school.
This person was hiding behindtrees and bushes and houses
nearby, trying to look into myhouse to see where I was.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Wait, I vaguely remember wouldn't stop calling,
you told me right yeah, I didhave to get a restraining order
before I know this person um notpersonally okay, that's creepy
cow, I'm sorry yeah, so it thisdoes.
This is a disorder that existsyeah, fuck, that's kind of sad
and like that's like a realthing, like you gotta be careful
(12:56):
I wanted to talk aboutmisunderstood defense mechanisms
.
Yeah, what exactly does?
So you're like really into likethese new trends and like I
can't really follow it'sinteresting I think it's
happened to both of us okay, somisunderstood it or
misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I feel like I'm teaching my four-year-old how to
talk right now um defensemechanisms okay yeah, I wanted
to have like a thoughtfulreflection and I did write this
down because I wanted it to benot like knee jerk.
Insensitive Mental healthdisorders do exist and I'm not
here to like attack somebody orshame somebody.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And I mean maybe it's more acknowledged than ever,
that's it Misunderstood defensemechanisms.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, so it's like a phenomenon, phenomenon,
phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Now who's the?
A phenomenon, phenomenon,phenomenon.
Now who's the?
Four-year-old?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
needing to be taught Shut up, you bitch.
I think we've all encounteredit.
Actually, it's when people feelthe need to defend themselves,
even when it's not about them.
So I'm telling you somethingabout my day and then you start
defending yourself.
Picture this you're in aconversation, sharing your
thoughts or your experiences.
Someone suddenly feels the urgeto like defend their stance or
(14:11):
their choices that you didn'task anything about, by the way,
and they may get likeemotionally charged, even as if
you're personally attacking them, and it's like you're just
telling them about your day yeahand this reaction can feel
really confusing to likesomebody.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, and this reaction can feel really
confusing to like somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yes, you know, and probably like both parties.
I don't know, and especiallylike when your intent as like a
speaker, to your friend issimply to just like share your
perspective about your day.
Have you had this happen to youyeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think a lot of times I just okay, I'm going to
roll with it, Like I just wantthem to like calm down.
I love to placate people I'mlike oh my God, I am so like
there's a lot of fucking crazypeople in real estate Like you
know, and so there was somebodyrecently, like another agent
from another company, that waslike I don't need any of that, I
(15:15):
don't want people being around,I need my privacy with my
clients when I'm doing theshowing.
And I'm like, okay, I could dotwo different reactions to this
craziness.
I could either put her in herplace and say like chill the F
out.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Or I could placate and be like kill them with
kindness.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So I'm like I'm going to kill them with kindness and
it felt so much better and thenthey felt like kind of dumb.
They were like oh, you are sokind, I'm sorry.
Like I didn't mean to go off onyou.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And I'm like it's totally okay, I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'm a new agent.
I would be more than happy togive your privacy with you and
your client.
So I think a lot of times it'sjust you really have to not get
wound up and not really takeoffense to it, because usually
they are just like and you knowwe've all been there.
But I think me and you are alittle bit more in tune with
(16:11):
like reality where we're like,hey, we're not going to be
paranoid and like even if thatperson is kind of coming for us
like shady we're like hey,whatever, we love comedy and you
know you crack a joke, I cracka joke, I have thick skin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You hopefully do yeah , yeah, no, oh my gosh, I've had
my ass chewed too many times bysexually or like oh, not
sexually um.
So I kind of did like someresearch.
It said, like what's going onhere in these moments?
In what moments in thesemoments where people get like
very defensive or they have thisknee-j jerk reaction and they
(16:46):
kind of like like they thinkyou're talking shit about them.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, they're paranoid.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, they're like.
It's like a misunderstooddefense mechanism where they're
just like yeah going off.
Nothing was intended to upsetanyone, right like you're
usually just telling them, likea story about your day yeah, or
like you said at work, likesomeone's going off on you when
you're just like trying to showa house at the same time, or you
you need to go in there forsomething you know I dug a
(17:12):
little deeper with that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Apparently she's gotten like clients taken from
her meaning, like the clientwasn't happy with them and then
they.
She thought I was lurking inthe, you know see, here's the
thing.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She sees you.
You're a likable person.
Oh, he's here to steal my girl.
It's mr still your girl.
Oh, mr still your client no,you're not trying to do that.
You're just like chilling.
It boils down to likeindividuals, experiences and
backgrounds.
What you just said, like you'relike, oh, maybe she thought I
was trying to steal her client.
Or like they've experiencedcertain traumas in the past,
(17:47):
right, um so, people, this iswhat I think.
This is how we can beinsensitive.
Sometimes we don't carry likeour traumas and our insecurities
with us, but a lot of peoplecarry their insecurities, their
past conflict flicks and theirtraumas with them 24, seven and
(18:09):
they just have like these kneejerk reactions.
They're just like feeling theiremotions and it's kind of like
their identity, right, it's likethey're under threat.
It's like, oh my gosh, thisperson is threat to me.
You know, even if that's notthe case, how they're acting can
create like unnecessarytensions.
It's hard because it doesn'tjust affect them, it affects the
person they're communicatingwith or trying to communicate
(18:31):
with.
So, basically, like what yousaid is where you how to
navigate.
It would just be to like haveempathy kill them with kindness.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I've always loved that.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Don't get defensive, like you said.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You don't get that way and well, I mean, I think
we've all been there where wehave just let it snap, because
every now and then we're tiredpmsing.
Like I noticed, like I have ashort fuse when I don't have a
lot of sleep oh, sleep really.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that's a big thing for me as well.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Or don't work out.
Oh, working out has been mysaving grace.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, Now do you end up asking like open-ended
questions to kind of get to theroot of it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
sometimes I usually just try to be you open up to me
.
I am no judgment becausetruthfully like I am a mess.
I'm imperfectly aspiring to noteven be perfect, but just be a
better version.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, you're pretty fucked up too, oh yeah, as am I.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean like I struggle with, like identity
issues.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
When you move a million times, you don't fucking
know who you are.
Sometimes.
No, it takes a minute.
You don't?
I understand that, you don't?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You get it, you get it, you get it Like we're like
wait, who are we?
Are we going to be here forever?
Like even my brother wrote thisreally sweet birthday card and
he's like hope you're here foranother year, like hope you
don't leave us, like hope you'renot a flight risk.
And I was like that was sosweet and I wanted to like give
him a hug and just say, like youare like my boy know he means
(20:01):
so much to you, he's my ride ordie and I know that, like you
know, me and him have like hadour ups and downs and like
that's just normal, like youknow, with siblings, but I know
him and your sister-in-law justmean the world to you and you're
really blessed to have themwell, you as well.
I mean we have to say like ourfamily has shaped us and yeah we
lean on them for not onlyemotional support, but like also
, we don't need a millionfriends no, I need like two
(20:22):
friends yeah like.
I mean, I could name like fiveI don't have time for that yeah,
and that's all good right we'regetting old now, do you ever
get in like a mood with yourtaste of music?
oh yeah, I'm always like tophits and then all of a sudden I
went skirt and like love now,like rufus and like disclosure,
which are like I don't even knowwhat genre that is.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's not like disco type of thing, or?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Is it like electronic ?
Electronic, yeah, yeah, likeI've been into the electronic
now because Because you saw themlive right.
I did and I was like fuck, likemy life is like changed forever
.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, so sometimes do you feel like maybe you don't
want to hear like words, likeit's too much to hear the words
and stuff yeah, like the lyricsnow bother me in some music fuck
.
That's what I want to talk about.
When I'm pmsing, my taste formusic changes drastically
wherever I'm at in my cycle.
When I'm like on my cycle I'mlistening to, like stevie nicks,
cheryl crow, the dixie chicks,billy joel, the beatles, the who
(21:17):
, you know, just older stuff,and it's almost like that older
music.
It has more creative expression, it's meaningful and
storytelling.
And then you get to like thestuff.
Now that's more current, themajor pop stuff.
It feels commercialized.
It shifts towardsconsumer-driven narratives,
cheating and substance substanceabuse.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mind control You're so right Rather than genuine
expression, I think, what reallybothered me.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I was sober for three weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I did not touch alcohol for three weeks.
Thank you.
You know what I'm really proudof it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Intermittently so.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Intermittent.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And when I was doing it it's like I't want to hear
like shabuzy songs oh god, bartipsy it's like I just didn't
want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I love it, but it's like I'm past it, like if it was
a year ago I'd probably be likeoh god, give me a shot it's
like it's well, it's like itmakes.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's like it kind of made me mad.
It's like I don't want to takea shot.
Why are we singing about likegive me another shot of whiskey?
Like I don't fucking want thatwell, you know what?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I want to listen to it.
I think it's honestly heprobably has a deal with like
jameson jack.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's what I say like commercialized, and that's
what I'm saying.
It's like I felt like an angryold hag.
It's like I didn't.
It's like I don't want to hearabout this an angry old hag.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Maybe it's because I was anti-alcohol.
Me too For that time period.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Because I was like I'm not doing it, like I just
I'm not going to have that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And I didn't push you on that For the record, I never
pushed it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You did not.
I do think that you inspired me, though.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You said in those three weeks your anxiety just
disappeared, it dissipated.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So you're saying like just from taking a break, yeah,
you're more like wow, I'm afirm believer.
And like don't drink every week.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Go like one, two, three weeks between when you
drink cleanse and yesterdayafter and that's like everything
, when people say oh I just haveone drink or two drinks on a
friday.
Give your body like a fullthree week, even a month break I
know you recommended like sixweeks everything that is gonna
make progress and you're gonnasee a noticeable change, like I
(23:28):
notice like when I go from likeeating like poorly to like six
weeks of eating really healthy.
I really see a change here'sthe thing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you can struggle through those six weeks really
might not be shit to you anymore.
But like, like yeah.
I don't know.
Three weeks I was PMSing hard.
I was very, like you know,irritated.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Well, is that because you had your period before you
started and now you're having it?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm about to get it again, yeah, and so it's almost
like I'm going through thiscycle.
I was like, okay, I did, I, Idid.
Good, I'm just gonna like havea little something I didn't have
as much as I normally wouldhave, which I'm impressed yeah,
and that's a mind.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Maybe this is like it's breaks, like you just have
to do breaks to remember.
Hey, like build up yourtolerance, like there was an
article about a tea breakbecause after the pandemic,
everybody was like smoking tonsof weed, drinking tons of wine
and like booze and everybodyneeded a tea break, which t
stands for tolerance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So, like then, it was like okay, now we can get back
to a healthy, moderated drinkingor smoking pot I think that if
you're a drinker, like obviouslylike sugar is not good for you
either, or like saturated fatsand stuff, but I would say like
my new thing is every two orthree weeks, yeah maybe I enjoy
(24:50):
something or like.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I know it can get a little heavy over the holidays,
but which is fun like everybodyshould have fun and do whatever
is best for their lifestyle yeahfor me, like it just, I don't
want it or need it.
But I'm just thinking about myhealth down the line exactly
like I want to age backwardslike let's, let's not get it
twisted.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's a lot to do with vanity which I don't know if
that's entirely possible but,recently you have kind of aged
backwards.
Why do you still look like sucha pumpkin face?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Like back in those photos.
My face was like, so it waslike inflamed with water.
I looked like a little chubby.
That is embarrassing.
That is my birthday two yearsago.
I was so messy Like it wasafter like the rehearsal dinner
for my brother andsister-in-law's wedding oh bad.
And mine is just typical drunkI it was after the rehearsal
dinner for my brother andsister-in-law's wedding, Uh-huh
Bad.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Mine is just typical drunk.
I was like 20.
I wasn't even 21 yet, like you.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The eyes glazed over the eyes glazed over.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's scary.
It's actually scary to look at.
I'd never want to be in thatsituation again, and neither
would you.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Thank you for listening to Mocktails, or.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Messy.
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