January 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Why would someone as powerful as Blake Lively tolerate unprofessional behavior on set? Join us as we tackle this question and many others in a rollercoaster episode filled with candid conversations and surprising twists. We celebrate our dear friend Ryan's incredible milestone—one year of sobriety—with laughter and a quest for the perfect non-alcoholic red wine. Just as the toasts and tales of triumph flow, an unexpected visit from Ryan's ex, Stephanie, spices up our celebration in ways we never anticipated.
The drama doesn't stop there. We confront pressing issues in Hollywood, discussing troubling allegations surrounding Justin Baldoni's behavior towards Blake Lively. Amidst this serious discourse, we touch upon the broader implications of power dynamics and unprofessionalism in the industry, drawing parallels with other high-profile relationships like Beyoncé and Jay-Z. Our reflections become personal as we share experiences with verbal abuse, highlighting the courage needed to navigate these challenging waters.
Nostalgia takes center stage as we reminisce about reconnecting with old friends and the impact of simple gestures like sharing forgotten photos. We explore how personal choices, like cutting out caffeine, can significantly affect well-being, drawing inspiration from pop culture figures and songs that resonate with our journeys. As we wrap up, we embrace the theme of personal growth, discussing topics from sauna benefits to navigating life changes. With heartfelt gratitude, we thank our listeners—or as we affectionately call them, our mocktailers and cocktailers—for their unwavering support and wish everyone a happy and fulfilling new year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi there, this is Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Mazgorski and Ryan Frankofsky.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to Mocktails are Messy.
We're so excited to have youhere.
Today is a really special day.
I'm going to let you make theannouncement because it's your
milestone.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, I kind of forgot about it, and then you
just reminded me.
And then, january 3rd, it'sbeen a year of 100 hundred
percent sober.
I'm a hundred percent sober oneyear, holy shit.
Oh my god, you are so sweet.
You did not have to do that, Iknow you love lemon so I had to
(00:42):
sobriety to you.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Happy sobriety to you .
Happy sobriety, dear Ryan.
Happy sobriety to you.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What the fuck.
You have a voice.
I'm so proud of you.
Oh my God, thank you so much.
This is so not necessary, butyet so necessary because it has
been a journey.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yes, just don't catch that microphone on fire.
You're scaring me.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh my God, it has literally been one whole fucking
year.
This is crazy.
Like I, it does not feel likeit's been a year.
I'm so happy.
Thank you for making me feel Iam like heard, I'm seen, I'm
okay.
So let's blow this fucker out.
I love you.
(01:33):
Thank you so to celebrate wehave lemon your favorite, I've
got um a nature organic.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This wine does have alcohol in it, but you've got
your alcohol-free cabernetsauvignon yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It is a premium red new zealand de-alcoholized.
So you can't really saynon-alcohol.
I guess it's de-alcoholizedbecause you know wine is have
that alcohol you need help.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah and I'llget you to twist that off.
That's easier for you, right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
When I was a waitress , I was always so embarrassed
when someone ordered a bottle ofwine.
Sometimes I'd have anotherwaitress open it for my table,
because I would always fuck itup.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I just couldn't do it , dude you look so fucking fly,
dude, cheetah, cheetah, dude,cheetah, cheetah.
Yeah, this is not my shirt.
This is like a littlehand-me-down from your husband.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They sure close.
Yes, yes, same weight, samesize.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Ryan's are the same.
We're all the same, like wewere the other night.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
My Ryan's.
So over the holidays holidays,I was at a holiday party with my
family and some of my me I did.
Yeah, oh my god, you're so someof my cousins were like um, are
your ryan's coming?
Like you're, I think peoplemight think we're a throuple I
think we might be one day yeah,well, probably not, um, if it's
(03:04):
up to my husband.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
But I know I'm like you know what let them think it.
If they think that, thenthey're definitely jealous it's
just like we said before they'rejust not that fucked up yeah,
most ryan's are not that fuckedup.
Um, definitely it's a thing yesuh cheers hon cheers to one year
sober.
I cannot believe it.
It has literally been thelongest fucking year.
(03:25):
But then also, like the blip ofan eye, I was like it's been a
year since I've been back andthen even a year, a year and a
half for you, since you've beenback and it's been a year since
we started.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's a year since we've started in pittsburgh, so
yes this is a really specialepisode to us Time of the year
this episode is definitelybrought to you by sobriety.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It is brought to you by ginseng.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is something we got to learn Ginseng.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't know Ginseng, it's a de-alcoholized New
Zealand premium red.
It doesn't even have likeCabernet or Marlotte or you know
any of that, so it's just apremium red.
It tastes really good.
Do you want to try a little bit?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, thank you.
I will try it later, because itis hard to do a good
de-alcoholized red.
With the whites it's super easy.
What do you think of this one?
What?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
do you rate this one out of ten?
I want to say a six and a halfout of ten because I do like it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I feel like that's the best.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I feel like that's good, though that's probably
like a ten for that type of.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because the red, I'm telling you, they just can't
recreate it.
They can't so if you have anysuggestions, please?
Yeah, please, link below,comment below, because we want
to try them.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We want to try these de-alkalized reds de-alcohol lot
.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I can never say it, remember, I know it's okay,
we'll just go with it, is itgood?
You gotta try it.
Well, you're gonna.
It's okay, no, I'm good, yeah,I don't want it all over my lips
it's so fucking good you hadn'theard about this yet, about
blake lively and the lawsuit, sowell, like it came up on, like
the feed and the radar, but whatexactly happened?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, so she has filed a legal complaint against
her.
It ends with us director andco-star Justin Baldoni.
She's alleging that herepeatedly sexually harassed her
.
Hey, everyone Just stopping byto say hi.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm fucking kidding hi.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Ryan, who is this?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
that's my ex oh, okay what's going on I?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
just came by to bring some snacks, but maybe I
shouldn't be here.
Um, I'm gonna have to.
We're in the middle ofsomething important, so I'm
gonna have to are you fuckingkidding me?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
that is okay.
No, fucking joke.
Like that's my ex.
What the fuck was that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
that's my ex stephanie.
How did she find you here?
Okay, he just left, so anyways,I'll just keep going without
him then I don't know if he'slike trying to go find her.
Oh, is she gone, stephanie?
(06:22):
How do you know her?
The one that keyed your car?
Yes, I thought she lookedfamiliar.
She still had that same likecrazy voice I mean, this is just
full circle, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Like literally I haven't seen her in probably two
years, but she's been dming andI know she.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We always tag the studio, so I guess that was a
mistake.
I'm a little bit shaken upabout that because like that's a
little creepy anyways, this issomething that we talked about
before.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't remember so you know what.
She must have fucking watchedit and she was pissed because we
talked about.
This is like something that werecently talked about, she
didn't sound too pissed to me.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It sounded like she wanted to see you.
Yeah, she wanted a moment.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And the funny thing is we, I don't.
I guess the thing is like youput like the thing on my car,
like the label oh shit, themocktails are messy magnet.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh my God, yeah, so it's just too easy to know.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't even want to go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I think, maria, I think I heard Maria telling her
to that she had to leave Causethere's people.
This studio it has like aworkstation too, so there's
people out there trying to work.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So she can't just hang out back there like I think
they probably had no idea whatwas going on and just didn't.
There's no security here, so Idon't think there was time to
stop her.
I'm still processing.
I was literally like are wegetting kicked out?
And then it was like I don'teven recognize her because she
was bringing snacks anyways,where were we about blake lot,
oh wow yeah, perfect verbalabuse not even, not even fuck.
(08:13):
That wasn't a verbal.
That was a verbal abusiverelationship and it could have
been physical, because shefucking keyed my car back in
2014.
Yeah, okay, so we were talkingabout blake lively suing the
director of it ends with usjustin baldoni.
It was her co-star, which iscrazy because she has more money
(08:34):
than him and like she's gonnafucking like dry him up from
this I based on the allegations.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I kind of hope she does.
So I want to preface by sayingthat, blake, she faced a lot of
accusations for not promotingawareness to domestic violence
after the movie ends with us,but the dark truth is that she
was actually experiencing sexualharassment on set and nobody
(09:04):
knew this was going on until shehas now filed the lawsuit.
so um wonder how ryan reynoldsfeels about all oh, he's been in
on, like some of the meetings,and he's very supportive.
He's even had talks with justinbaldoni.
So, um, you know the lawyers.
They did obtain like messagesvia a subpoena Subpoena.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's it.
You got it Subpoena.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's a legal document.
You know that someone has toproduce you know, documents or
evidence of court.
So that's how they got thesubpoena.
Baldoni has been dropped by histalent agency, so this is very
wow.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
He's really fucked, and so I wonder if they're gonna
even watch the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, technically it showcases him as the violent one
so let me tell you some of thethings that he has allegedly
done.
And I'm sorry, I mean I.
I don't think that blake livelyis like lying or making any of
this up.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, we just all, so I hate I don't even want to say
allegedly she's best friendswith taylor swift.
Yeah, she's solid, just likesolid.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's a solid girl right and anyways.
So he insisted, baldoni.
He insisted on adding sexscenes and like in the final
scenes, like she was givingbirth.
He wanted her to be like nakedfor that.
He said it's not normal forwomen to like stay in their
(10:36):
gowns at the hospital whilethey're giving birth.
I stayed in my gown.
It's totally normal.
But whatever Creepy hereportedly like improvised.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's weird.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He improvised, like during the scenes, so like for
the makeout scenes.
He started like biting her lipand like sucking on it a little
too much, like something theydidn't really rehearse prior to
rehearsal and just disregardinglike professional protocols
Right, much like something theydidn't really rehearse prior to
rehearsal and just disregardinglike professional protocols,
right and um.
(11:10):
So you know, blake.
She demands to create a morecomfortable work environment.
She calls a meeting.
She wanted him to stopdiscussing nudity.
He apparently had an addictionto pornography, so he would like
show her pictures of like nakedwomen and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Wow, this guy has really got a lot of issues he
kept discussing her weight.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He mentioned he asked her how much she weighed
because he didn't want to hurthis back when he had to, like,
pick her up and stuff.
And he just continued todiscuss her weight and talk
about her late father.
Like why are you mentioningthat?
Her father that passed away?
You know he's just trying tohurt her at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So the producers, she she wanted to like figure this
out right, she's professional,but there was just nothing she
could do.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean even the producer, um jamie heath.
He entered her trailer whileshe was getting her makeup off.
She was undressed, um and umdave walked in on her when she
was breastfeeding her childBaldoni, made the cast and the
(12:23):
crew wait for hours while hecried in her dressing room
because she didn't look hotenough.
There were apparently somenegative social media comments
about her appearance aftergiving birth and he was
literally crying on the floorfor hours because he didn't
think she looked hot enough.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Just see this all seems a little bit like one
sided here.
Like do we know what his sideof the story is?
You know how there's alwaysthree sides to a story.
I am not supporting this guy,I'm just saying devil's advocate
, because what you're telling meis like he did all these
horrible things and I feel likesomebody of power like blake,
(13:00):
who is a successful actress andhas like a backing of a
billionaire husband, ryanreynolds.
Why would she put up with thisshit?
well, did, is she that seriousabout her like reputation to get
the movie done.
I mean in some ways like that'skind of what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I mean I think she was that serious.
I mean he was definitely likesending out there's from the
subpoena.
We have text messages now thathe was sending.
He was trying to push thingsout to like Instagram and
twitter and all sorts of thingsto just make her look bad.
So he, I think he is a nut atthe end of the day, I think he's
(13:42):
a nut, oh god, I mean what asad reality that we live in.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's why everybody thinks hollywood's so fucked up
hollywood is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, a few months ago we were talking about, you
know, p diddy, and now,apparently, beyonce is leaving
um jay-z no yeah, apparently oh,she's not she's not want to be
tied to this crap oh fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And she read she was like a ride or die yeah wifey.
Oh yeah, even though he waslike hanging out with beck Becky
with the good hair.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, she forgave him one too many times.
Yeah, I don't know, that's justlike that, doesn't?
This whole thing with thismovie and with Blake and Justin
is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
What did you think of the movie Knowing what you Know
Now, did it feel I?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
need to rewatch it.
It did feel.
I felt her fear in the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I thought it was her acting might have been real it
might have been real a comboyeah, yeah, it kind of sometimes
bleeds together and you knowwhat, when you are a method
actor or actress, you know thatisn't as crazy as you would
think for you to like go throughthis.
And then isn't about me.
This is about blake and this ismore about women that have gone
(15:24):
through this.
But I think what went throughmy head at the end of the movie,
I was like flashing throughthis one relationship that I had
and I was verbally abused.
Now, whether I could handle itor not, it's not physical, it
(15:46):
didn't really like rattle me up,but I did.
After I left that relationship,I did have this like it was like
an after effect, feeling like,oh my God, if anybody yelled or
if anybody screamed, it wouldlike startle me more than
distress.
Yes, like it was like PTSD,because I was like, oh my God,
(16:07):
like I was starting and Iactually had to like get into
anger management because I wasstarting to act angry.
And you know me.
I mean, am I an angry person?
No, so I don't blame anyone,the person per se, I blame
myself.
I mean, they fucked up, theygave me that.
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
it was just a little bit of pie on your, a little
cream pie.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You got the cream pie off.
Yeah, anyways, I mean, have youever like?
Just to sum, sum it up, like Ifelt like that film it ends with
us?
I felt like connected to thecharacter blake yeah, I don't
remember what her name was emilywas her name emily?
No, no, it wasn't so.
No, that was in the other moviesimple favor.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We sound just dumb now, yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Anyways, blake lively in that movie.
It ends with us I felt it.
Even that was physical violence.
I I was like living like, oh,they're not verbally abusing me,
oh no, it's just in my head.
Or oh no, no, no, they, theylove me.
They like would love bomb you.
And then it was just like OK,get back to like, just like you
know, being in the samerelationship and just going with
the flow.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Right, right, it's just yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Have you ever struggled with that?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Not in a relationship , I've never been abused
mentally or physically in arelationship, thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but not a, not a, um, you know, romantic
relationship yeah, I definitelyhave been in my life by other
people, right, right hatersgonna hate.
Hate, haters gonna hate I mean,I remember asking you if you
guys ever had any enemies and Iwas shocked Like this is the
first year that I've ever hadlike an enemy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I was like oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But you were like, hey, it's a common.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's tough coming back to this, to the, to
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I know Doing what we love.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I feel like I always have at least one enemy.
It doesn't matter where I live,where I move to, I always have
one.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
What is it Like?
I just can't imagine you havingan enemy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Like, do you really rattle somebody up?
I think some people just can'tfucking stand me, and that's
fine, lucky for them.
I can't stand them either, soit's a true enemy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That was so good.
Cheers to people not fuckingstanding us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah Right Haters gotta hate, hate, hate.
We don't care.
Yeah, how are we doing withseasonal depression?
We're in the thick of winternow.
Like how are we feeling?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm feeling a hell of a lot better after I got
through this hump of like ayearety and then also like
buying a new car and, like youknow, just getting like my
footing with work.
But, that being said, like youknow, saw me like I was at the
fucking uh Omni William Pennhotel, like having a breakdown
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Dude, I'm up and down too.
I mean, I feel like you know,everyone's taking their lights
down now from the holidays.
We kind of decorate with thelights to lift up our spirits.
While the other animals arehibernating, we're putting up
lights to feel better, but Ikind of just want to hibernate
now.
I do too, and some days arebetter than others, and that's
(19:21):
what I miss about summer orliving in when you know, living
in California or Florida whereit's like, consistently good,
like warm weather.
Even Mississippi.
Yeah, I mean, but that wasn'tfun.
You know when you could get outand like put your shorts on,
like feel the vitamin D, go on awalk.
You're not like freezing yourass off Like I.
(19:44):
Just that's what I need rightnow.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I know, I know I feel you because I think in some
ways like that's why people takethese little like snowbird
vacations.
I am happy and excited to getto Mexico.
I'm going to be doing a projectthere.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm so jealous, I know, can you come with me?
You're supposed to take me withyou on your co-host.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I invited you, but you're like I have children.
I got to take care of somebabies.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We already have a trip planned for later this
month.
Yes, yes I think it's going tohappen, but I think that I've
have some reservations now.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
About the drones.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
About the drones.
So we have a trip for New York.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
City planned.
We were going to redo our umcover photo that we haven't done
, since we were like 20 20 yearsold.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
We were 20, holy shit um, and we wanted to redo it
and we wanted to maybe meet upwith people in new york city and
do some interviews there yesbut I'm just having some
reservations now about whetheror not this is the right time to
do that because of the drones.
So what would you do?
Would you go still, or wouldyou maybe just wait it out until
(20:52):
this drone stuff is?
Hopefully?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
over.
We want to know what you guysthink.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
What would you guys?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
do.
Is it a good idea to betraveling to New York City?
All the New Yorkers that havebeen listening and following
with us, what are your thoughts?
I mean, I don't even know.
Is it just New Yorkers thathave been listening and
following with us?
Like, what are your thoughts?
I mean, I don't even know.
Is it just New York?
It's getting into Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I think it's been in Philly, like Maryland,
New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I heard there were sightings in like
California too, which isconfusing.
So it's like the coasts.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think we're just going to have to bring it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think we're just gonna have a little scary.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I think we got.
I mean, hey, listen, you know,work doesn't sleep I know that's
what I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm like, hey, I mean even.
I think when covid happened,everybody kind of like put a
pause on their life and yes it'slike do I want to like put a
pause on my life?
Not really, but then at thesame time it's like maybe I
should be overly cautiousbecause I have kids.
I know, and God forbid we gothere at the wrong time and
(21:50):
something awful happens.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, we just don't know what this is.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, you've always been a little bit more, I guess,
cautious.
In general, I've always been alittle bit more of a rebel,
which I don't think has alwaysworked out.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, being a guy, I've always been a little
bit more of a rebel, which Idon't think is always.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
well, you're a bull, you just charge forward yes,
women are a little bit morecautious typically.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I know like last week we were looking at like old
pictures together and I kind offelt like a little emotional and
I want to know what you feltlike.
The nostalgia of looking at oldpictures with old friends kind
of almost brought like tears tomy eyes and it's like I want to
reconnect with some old friendsbut then I hesitate to reach out
(22:35):
because it's been so long andit might be like awkward now you
know what?
what do you?
How do you feel about that,like with our old friends from
like I don't know, high schoolwe were looking at old pictures
and even college, like do youreach out or do you just kind of
let it, let the past be thepast?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
you know what I always took your advice shoot
your shot yeah, I'm in themoment, I'm literally like I'm
just shooting my shot.
Like I saw this sign today andit said f and m and you know I
was franco and the lastrelationship like couple
relationships ago was m and so Ijust saw this like logo f and m
(23:12):
and I was like I used to likesee an album f and m.
So then I just took the pictureand I sent it and that x.
I'm sure they're probably gonnabe like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
you really did, I did , I did.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh my god, I mean, it's a little embarrassing, but
I think of you all the time.
I want to do something likeshoot your shot like I even sent
like something like some oldthing like what you're talking
about, like it was like a 16thbirthday card from my girl, emmy
, and she was at uh, swicklyquaker valley and I just sent it
(23:44):
to her on dm.
I don't even have her numberanymore.
I just slid into her dms againand she was at uh, swickly
quaker valley and I just sent itto her on dm.
I don't even have her numberanymore.
I just slid into her dms againand she was like, oh my god,
that was such a fun time of ourlife and it's like that was 16.
Wow, weird time ago.
I know we're getting old girl,you're shocked you've kind of
given up um caffeine for the newyear yeah, it's weird like I
(24:05):
feel like I'm getting a lot moresleep, but then I'm also kind
of like a little bit moreenergized.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I think caffeine, like, would put those peaks and
valleys yeah, it's almost likeyou the first cup, you get a
little energy, and then, likethe second cup, you get like a
lot of energy and then, maybe,like the third cup, you start
like actually getting tiredexactly like it doesn't help
like water is more energizing itseriously reminds me of this
one song by stacy orico.
(24:31):
It's called there's gotta belike.
There's gotta be more to lifethan like chasing these like
temporary highs and I feel likefor me, like with caffeine, and
it can even be like alcohol orjust anything working out you're
just overdoing it.
You're chasing this high, it'sthis temporary high and it's
like there's gotta be more.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That like can satisfy me than like this extra cup of
coffee like even like sex andlike you know it's like
everything right so like,everything like is so addictive
that you know, peace issomething that I am really
striving for for 2025.
I really don't care aboutanything or anyone.
(25:15):
I mean, work is always going tobe a little bit stressful, but
that's, that's giving me.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Like you know, that's paying my bills and everything
but you're really finding yourbearings now Because I know
anytime you start a new job, italmost takes like three to six
months to really get into thegroove.
You're there now, but now youhave more on your plate because
you're growing.
So how are you handling it all?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know what I think ?
It's meditation, the sauna andworking out the sauna.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yes, yes, yes, major health benefits to the sauna it
increases my mood better thanany glass of wine could.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Right Sauna.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It sweats out the toxins.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You feel so clear?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You got to go in for 15 to 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I've always done a solid 25.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, 25 is fine.
Let to 20 minutes.
Yeah, I've always done a solid25.
Yeah, 25 is fine, let it warmup.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, you know, and I do think that, like the
cardiovascular health thatdecreases like immortality, like
by 50% it does.
I mean it is just so manybenefits that like if you're not
using a sauna or if you do haveaccess, to a sauna.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Try to hit it at least three times a week.
Yeah, a sauna.
Or, if you do have access to asauna, at least three times a
week, yeah, yep.
Monday, wednesday, friday.
I feel it in my body like.
I feel like you use it at lafitness.
I do, I go and I I sometimeswould get like heart
palpitations, but ever sinceI've started using the sauna, I
have not had one single heartpalpitation well, it increases
your cardiovascular.
(26:43):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Your heart is pumping a little bit more because it's
in stress mode.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Because the heat.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But it's like this euphoric feeling.
I love it Sauna for life.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We all need a sauna right.
This is something that I alsowant to bring to people's light.
When I came back to Pittsburgh,this is something that I wasn't
open about.
I moved in with my parents.
I live with my brother and hiswife, and then I moved in with
my parents and you know, like Ihad my grandma's PT cruiser.
It was really hard adjustmentat 33.
(27:20):
And so somebody brought this tomy attention.
Like we talk about all the goodrainbows and fairy tales of,
like you know, doing the podcast, there is a lot of stress and
work that goes into this and,like you yourself, like you're
running around crazy trying tofigure out how to be a mother of
two, you know funds go up anddown and it's like you want to
(27:44):
move in, like you know I want tobuy a car, and like living with
my parents is not easy at thisage, and like even you yourself,
like your house is, like youknow the walls are starting to
come in, like close in, like youneed more space.
So it's like everything thathappened last year.
We are so grateful and we wantto be more open about not just
(28:05):
the glamorous side of theequation but also the hard parts
I okay.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So I I'm really glad that you are being so open about
this.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It resonates with me, though, because I, you're,
you're taught, you wereembarrassed to talk about it in
the.
Moment but it's in the past now, so you're like whatever I'm
doing better now, so now it'seasy to say but I'm glad that
you're bringing it up, becausepeople need to know that, like
it's not just sunshine andrainbows for you.
You make it look that way, butit's not that way.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I was embarrassed to live with my parents.
And I was also embarrassed tolike be at that point in my life
that I was like.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You owned that PT cruiser, though I point in my
life that I was like you ownedthat put cruiser, though like
you fucking owned it, you couldhave been, like you know,
embarrassed and like hiding andstuff, but you just like didn't
care like you acted like youdidn't care, and you know what I
did act like that, and you knowwhy?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
because I was so grateful to have a car from
grandma and it was not only theconnection between my like
spirit animal, grandma Nancy.
God bless her, rest her soul.
I know.
God bless her.
Rest her soul.
I love her, you loved her, Iloved her.
But I was also like you knowwhat, like I need to grow the
(29:20):
fuck up, like I can't just begetting handouts.
Like my whole entire life haskind of revolved around like
connecting myself with the rightpeople, dating the right people
to really leverage me up, to beable to like sustain this like
glamorous luxury lifestyle inNew York, but then I have like
(29:41):
not as much savings.
Yeah, I have no vehicle.
I have no like real like like Ihave experiences.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's it Clear, though You're kind of making
yourself sound bad.
You were working your ass off,though.
You just couldn't date someonewho I don't know was less
successful than you, or you'd beon the struggle bus, I know.
So I just want to that's justwhat I see as your friend.
You're kind of making yourselfsound like oh, I'm like looking
(30:09):
around to date people with likemoney.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I don't like that about myself.
I think there is this part ofme that, like I don't want to
date another creative or I don'twant I'm not really like
interested in that notcompatible.
Yeah, it's just not compatiblelike I need that person that's a
little bit more stable andcorporate right, or I just need
myself.
And I said to myself like kimkardashian said is this
(30:34):
embarrassing to like?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
compare quotes I love Kim.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She said I want to be single for two years.
Well, guess what?
December 20th was year one andI'm ready for year two.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I want to stay single .
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I love that I don't want to be committed to anybody
but me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, and I think, like I definitely am nervous
about when you do start datingagain, because you did mention
that you would love to datewomen again, when you start and
like I know any women that couldbe like dating a bi guy.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Is it okay?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
well, am I.
Are you gonna be okay with mebecause we're besties and I'm,
lucky like my husband's, coolwith it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
He's also your bestie god so lucky.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But for someone to come in that doesn't like that's
not part of this little triothat we have going on.
I know it's like if you'regoing to like, hate me.
It's not going to work, honey.
I know it's not going to work,my business partner.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You have to love my business partner.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Or not even love, because, like there's not any
amount of love, men don't have agirl best friend.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, that's true, and like I'm, I'm lucky that,
like I, am able to have a malebest friend, like that's not
really a normal thing.
It's not as common it helpsthat he's bisexual right or even
gay for all intents andpurposes, my husband's like oh,
he's gay, whatever I wouldn't befriends with you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would not be friends with you if you were not
at least bi.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
But isn't it weird, though, like it should be
acceptable, because people, Ithink what's another thing about
me is not like anything to dowith us being promiscuous, yeah,
but I do notice that I saw thislittle short with James Franco.
With James Franco, he was notable to remain faithful to any
(32:19):
relationship because when he wasdrunk or high, he would always
be promiscuous, always beinappropriate, always be like
hooking up.
And with me being sober, I feellike, so in control of like,
okay, I am not going to beinappropriate with another
person.
So, that being said, said likeI trust myself more now I know I
(32:40):
love it.
Sometimes I have like a glasstoo many and I like flirt a
little bit with you and you'relike you're like don't do that
only because I love your husbandjust as much as I love you,
I'll do it in front of him Iknow, I know, but I do really
want to find the girl.
I do want to Like.
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I had two relationships with guys
Accepting applications here.
Yes, yes, your contract won'tstart for another year, I know.
Hey, you know what I'm ininterviewing phases.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And I am.
You know, I am like I got a lotof red flags so like, by any
means looking, you're notlooking right now.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's why you need to drop your resume.
Handle, you know, yeahinstagram handle.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's better than a resume.
You think I should change mydefault photo for my instagram
because it's just like ashirtless photo with a rose.
Is that like kind of old?
It reminds me of the bachelorso I need to change it to like
maybe the headshot for realestate.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Or it's a pre-indication that you're going
on the Bachelor?
Oh, you should apply the bibachelor.
No, you should apply to be onit as one of the men.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
CBS is not that accepting.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
They're not that woke .
Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, they're just that bi, they're going to take it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, bi don't fucking resonate.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, so I shouldn't say it, itwill.
There's been some bi people onthere before.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well yeah, Colton Hardwood, oh Underwood.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Hardwood.
I know where your head's at.
I literally knew that that waswrong with that?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I'm like what is it?
It's not Underwood, becausethat just sounds like he's
Underwood, underwood, becausethat just sounds like he's
Underwood, Conan Underwood.
And so another thing I noticedtoo from him he is dating this
older gentleman.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yes, he's married, maybe engaged.
They adopted a baby or maybe.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Very, very cute it could be biological to one of
them.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know enough to speak on that.
Very, very cute, it could bebiological to one of them.
I don't know enough to speak onthat, very, very cute but.
I notice.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I want somebody that is like younger than me or my
age.
I dated older a couple times.
I'm just like I, I like youngenergy.
I'm kind of over it, like eventhough I have like old soul
vibes with grammys and andGrandpaps you do, but I think I
just like want the young one,like I want like a Gen Z-er.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
A young buck or a young Kitten?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Kitten, like of course 25 and up.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Oh yeah.
Not like young like the frontalcortex, not like 18.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Frontal cortex needs to be developed, yeah explain to
me this frontal cortex that youbrought up before.
I'm going to say I don't thinkmine was fully developed until I
was like 27.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I truly think it's important, though, for that
frontal cortex to be developed.
Yeah, and I waited for mine tobe developed before I had like
children and stuff because I wasbatshit crazy.
I know I was like a wild girl,we both were.
Definitely Like I used to likeat parties, like I just didn't
care I know and you know whatyou have really so like.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Why not like?
I think in some ways, like Itotally would too yeah, like if
you got it flaunted was my likemotto excited.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's so many good things to come.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Guys, happy new year you guys are some of the best
listeners.
We call it our mocktailers andour Cocktailers.
If it wasn't for you, we wouldnot be able to do these things
like share the journey ofmocktails or Messy.
This is Ryan Frankofsky andKelly.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Msgorski.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Bye, bye, felicia.
Hi there, this is Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Mazgorski and Ryan Frankofsky.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to Mocktails are Messy.
We're so excited to have youhere.
Today is a really special day.
I'm going to let you make theannouncement because it's your
milestone.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, I kind of forgot about it, and then you
just reminded me.
And then, january 3rd, it'sbeen a year of 100 hundred
percent sober.
I'm a hundred percent sober oneyear, holy shit.
Oh my god, you are so sweet.
You did not have to do that, Iknow you love lemon so I had to
(00:42):
sobriety to you.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Happy sobriety to you .
Happy sobriety, dear Ryan.
Happy sobriety to you.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What the fuck.
You have a voice.
I'm so proud of you.
Oh my God, thank you so much.
This is so not necessary, butyet so necessary because it has
been a journey.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yes, just don't catch that microphone on fire.
You're scaring me.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh my God, it has literally been one whole fucking
year.
This is crazy.
Like I, it does not feel likeit's been a year.
I'm so happy.
Thank you for making me feel Iam like heard, I'm seen, I'm
okay.
So let's blow this fucker out.
I love you.
(01:33):
Thank you so to celebrate wehave lemon your favorite, I've
got um a nature organic.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This wine does have alcohol in it, but you've got
your alcohol-free cabernetsauvignon yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It is a premium red new zealand de-alcoholized.
So you can't really saynon-alcohol.
I guess it's de-alcoholizedbecause you know wine is have
that alcohol you need help.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah and I'llget you to twist that off.
That's easier for you, right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
When I was a waitress , I was always so embarrassed
when someone ordered a bottle ofwine.
Sometimes I'd have anotherwaitress open it for my table,
because I would always fuck itup.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I just couldn't do it , dude you look so fucking fly,
dude, cheetah, cheetah, dude,cheetah, cheetah.
Yeah, this is not my shirt.
This is like a littlehand-me-down from your husband.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They sure close.
Yes, yes, same weight, samesize.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Ryan's are the same.
We're all the same, like wewere the other night.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
My Ryan's.
So over the holidays holidays,I was at a holiday party with my
family and some of my me I did.
Yeah, oh my god, you're so someof my cousins were like um, are
your ryan's coming?
Like you're, I think peoplemight think we're a throuple I
think we might be one day yeah,well, probably not, um, if it's
(03:04):
up to my husband.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
But I know I'm like you know what let them think it.
If they think that, thenthey're definitely jealous it's
just like we said before they'rejust not that fucked up yeah,
most ryan's are not that fuckedup.
Um, definitely it's a thing yesuh cheers hon cheers to one year
sober.
I cannot believe it.
It has literally been thelongest fucking year.
(03:25):
But then also, like the blip ofan eye, I was like it's been a
year since I've been back andthen even a year, a year and a
half for you, since you've beenback and it's been a year since
we started.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's a year since we've started in pittsburgh, so
yes this is a really specialepisode to us Time of the year
this episode is definitelybrought to you by sobriety.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It is brought to you by ginseng.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is something we got to learn Ginseng.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't know Ginseng, it's a de-alcoholized New
Zealand premium red.
It doesn't even have likeCabernet or Marlotte or you know
any of that, so it's just apremium red.
It tastes really good.
Do you want to try a little bit?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, thank you.
I will try it later, because itis hard to do a good
de-alcoholized red.
With the whites it's super easy.
What do you think of this one?
What?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
do you rate this one out of ten?
I want to say a six and a halfout of ten because I do like it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I feel like that's the best.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I feel like that's good, though that's probably
like a ten for that type of.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because the red, I'm telling you, they just can't
recreate it.
They can't so if you have anysuggestions, please?
Yeah, please, link below,comment below, because we want
to try them.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We want to try these de-alkalized reds de-alcohol lot
.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I can never say it, remember, I know it's okay,
we'll just go with it, is itgood?
You gotta try it.
Well, you're gonna.
It's okay, no, I'm good, yeah,I don't want it all over my lips
it's so fucking good you hadn'theard about this yet, about
blake lively and the lawsuit, sowell, like it came up on, like
the feed and the radar, but whatexactly happened?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, so she has filed a legal complaint against
her.
It ends with us director andco-star Justin Baldoni.
She's alleging that herepeatedly sexually harassed her
.
Hey, everyone Just stopping byto say hi.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm fucking kidding hi.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Ryan, who is this?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
that's my ex oh, okay what's going on I?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
just came by to bring some snacks, but maybe I
shouldn't be here.
Um, I'm gonna have to.
We're in the middle ofsomething important, so I'm
gonna have to are you fuckingkidding me?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
that is okay.
No, fucking joke.
Like that's my ex.
What the fuck was that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
that's my ex stephanie.
How did she find you here?
Okay, he just left, so anyways,I'll just keep going without
him then I don't know if he'slike trying to go find her.
Oh, is she gone, stephanie?
(06:22):
How do you know her?
The one that keyed your car?
Yes, I thought she lookedfamiliar.
She still had that same likecrazy voice I mean, this is just
full circle, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Like literally I haven't seen her in probably two
years, but she's been dming andI know she.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We always tag the studio, so I guess that was a
mistake.
I'm a little bit shaken upabout that because like that's a
little creepy anyways, this issomething that we talked about
before.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't remember so you know what.
She must have fucking watchedit and she was pissed because we
talked about.
This is like something that werecently talked about, she
didn't sound too pissed to me.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It sounded like she wanted to see you.
Yeah, she wanted a moment.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And the funny thing is we, I don't.
I guess the thing is like youput like the thing on my car,
like the label oh shit, themocktails are messy magnet.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh my God, yeah, so it's just too easy to know.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't even want to go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I think, maria, I think I heard Maria telling her
to that she had to leave Causethere's people.
This studio it has like aworkstation too, so there's
people out there trying to work.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So she can't just hang out back there like I think
they probably had no idea whatwas going on and just didn't.
There's no security here, so Idon't think there was time to
stop her.
I'm still processing.
I was literally like are wegetting kicked out?
And then it was like I don'teven recognize her because she
was bringing snacks anyways,where were we about blake lot,
oh wow yeah, perfect verbalabuse not even, not even fuck.
(08:13):
That wasn't a verbal.
That was a verbal abusiverelationship and it could have
been physical, because shefucking keyed my car back in
2014.
Yeah, okay, so we were talkingabout blake lively suing the
director of it ends with usjustin baldoni.
It was her co-star, which iscrazy because she has more money
(08:34):
than him and like she's gonnafucking like dry him up from
this I based on the allegations.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I kind of hope she does.
So I want to preface by sayingthat, blake, she faced a lot of
accusations for not promotingawareness to domestic violence
after the movie ends with us,but the dark truth is that she
was actually experiencing sexualharassment on set and nobody
(09:04):
knew this was going on until shehas now filed the lawsuit.
so um wonder how ryan reynoldsfeels about all oh, he's been in
on, like some of the meetings,and he's very supportive.
He's even had talks with justinbaldoni.
So, um, you know the lawyers.
They did obtain like messagesvia a subpoena Subpoena.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's it.
You got it Subpoena.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's a legal document.
You know that someone has toproduce you know, documents or
evidence of court.
So that's how they got thesubpoena.
Baldoni has been dropped by histalent agency, so this is very
wow.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
He's really fucked, and so I wonder if they're gonna
even watch the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, technically it showcases him as the violent one
so let me tell you some of thethings that he has allegedly
done.
And I'm sorry, I mean I.
I don't think that blake livelyis like lying or making any of
this up.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, we just all, so I hate I don't even want to say
allegedly she's best friendswith taylor swift.
Yeah, she's solid, just likesolid.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's a solid girl right and anyways.
So he insisted, baldoni.
He insisted on adding sexscenes and like in the final
scenes, like she was givingbirth.
He wanted her to be like nakedfor that.
He said it's not normal forwomen to like stay in their
(10:36):
gowns at the hospital whilethey're giving birth.
I stayed in my gown.
It's totally normal.
But whatever Creepy hereportedly like improvised.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's weird.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He improvised, like during the scenes, so like for
the makeout scenes.
He started like biting her lipand like sucking on it a little
too much, like something theydidn't really rehearse prior to
rehearsal and just disregardinglike professional protocols
Right, much like something theydidn't really rehearse prior to
rehearsal and just disregardinglike professional protocols,
right and um.
(11:10):
So you know, blake.
She demands to create a morecomfortable work environment.
She calls a meeting.
She wanted him to stopdiscussing nudity.
He apparently had an addictionto pornography, so he would like
show her pictures of like nakedwomen and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Wow, this guy has really got a lot of issues he
kept discussing her weight.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He mentioned he asked her how much she weighed
because he didn't want to hurthis back when he had to, like,
pick her up and stuff.
And he just continued todiscuss her weight and talk
about her late father.
Like why are you mentioningthat?
Her father that passed away?
You know he's just trying tohurt her at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So the producers, she she wanted to like figure this
out right, she's professional,but there was just nothing she
could do.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean even the producer, um jamie heath.
He entered her trailer whileshe was getting her makeup off.
She was undressed, um and umdave walked in on her when she
was breastfeeding her childBaldoni, made the cast and the
(12:23):
crew wait for hours while hecried in her dressing room
because she didn't look hotenough.
There were apparently somenegative social media comments
about her appearance aftergiving birth and he was
literally crying on the floorfor hours because he didn't
think she looked hot enough.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Just see this all seems a little bit like one
sided here.
Like do we know what his sideof the story is?
You know how there's alwaysthree sides to a story.
I am not supporting this guy,I'm just saying devil's advocate
, because what you're telling meis like he did all these
horrible things and I feel likesomebody of power like blake,
(13:00):
who is a successful actress andhas like a backing of a
billionaire husband, ryanreynolds.
Why would she put up with thisshit?
well, did, is she that seriousabout her like reputation to get
the movie done.
I mean in some ways like that'skind of what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I mean I think she was that serious.
I mean he was definitely likesending out there's from the
subpoena.
We have text messages now thathe was sending.
He was trying to push thingsout to like Instagram and
twitter and all sorts of thingsto just make her look bad.
So he, I think he is a nut atthe end of the day, I think he's
(13:42):
a nut, oh god, I mean what asad reality that we live in.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's why everybody thinks hollywood's so fucked up
hollywood is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, a few months ago we were talking about, you
know, p diddy, and now,apparently, beyonce is leaving
um jay-z no yeah, apparently oh,she's not she's not want to be
tied to this crap oh fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And she read she was like a ride or die yeah wifey.
Oh yeah, even though he waslike hanging out with beck Becky
with the good hair.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, she forgave him one too many times.
Yeah, I don't know, that's justlike that, doesn't?
This whole thing with thismovie and with Blake and Justin
is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
What did you think of the movie Knowing what you Know
Now, did it feel I?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
need to rewatch it.
It did feel.
I felt her fear in the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I thought it was her acting might have been real it
might have been real a comboyeah, yeah, it kind of sometimes
bleeds together and you knowwhat, when you are a method
actor or actress, you know thatisn't as crazy as you would
think for you to like go throughthis.
And then isn't about me.
This is about blake and this ismore about women that have gone
(15:24):
through this.
But I think what went throughmy head at the end of the movie,
I was like flashing throughthis one relationship that I had
and I was verbally abused.
Now, whether I could handle itor not, it's not physical, it
(15:46):
didn't really like rattle me up,but I did.
After I left that relationship,I did have this like it was like
an after effect, feeling like,oh my God, if anybody yelled or
if anybody screamed, it wouldlike startle me more than
distress.
Yes, like it was like PTSD,because I was like, oh my God,
(16:07):
like I was starting and Iactually had to like get into
anger management because I wasstarting to act angry.
And you know me.
I mean, am I an angry person?
No, so I don't blame anyone,the person per se, I blame
myself.
I mean, they fucked up, theygave me that.
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
it was just a little bit of pie on your, a little
cream pie.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You got the cream pie off.
Yeah, anyways, I mean, have youever like?
Just to sum, sum it up, like Ifelt like that film it ends with
us?
I felt like connected to thecharacter blake yeah, I don't
remember what her name was emilywas her name emily?
No, no, it wasn't so.
No, that was in the other moviesimple favor.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We sound just dumb now, yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Anyways, blake lively in that movie.
It ends with us I felt it.
Even that was physical violence.
I I was like living like, oh,they're not verbally abusing me,
oh no, it's just in my head.
Or oh no, no, no, they, theylove me.
They like would love bomb you.
And then it was just like OK,get back to like, just like you
know, being in the samerelationship and just going with
the flow.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Right, right, it's just yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Have you ever struggled with that?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Not in a relationship , I've never been abused
mentally or physically in arelationship, thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but not a, not a, um, you know, romantic
relationship yeah, I definitelyhave been in my life by other
people, right, right hatersgonna hate.
Hate, haters gonna hate I mean,I remember asking you if you
guys ever had any enemies and Iwas shocked Like this is the
first year that I've ever hadlike an enemy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I was like oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But you were like, hey, it's a common.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's tough coming back to this, to the, to
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I know Doing what we love.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I feel like I always have at least one enemy.
It doesn't matter where I live,where I move to, I always have
one.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
What is it Like?
I just can't imagine you havingan enemy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Like, do you really rattle somebody up?
I think some people just can'tfucking stand me, and that's
fine, lucky for them.
I can't stand them either, soit's a true enemy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That was so good.
Cheers to people not fuckingstanding us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah Right Haters gotta hate, hate, hate.
We don't care.
Yeah, how are we doing withseasonal depression?
We're in the thick of winternow.
Like how are we feeling?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm feeling a hell of a lot better after I got
through this hump of like ayearety and then also like
buying a new car and, like youknow, just getting like my
footing with work.
But, that being said, like youknow, saw me like I was at the
fucking uh Omni William Pennhotel, like having a breakdown
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Dude, I'm up and down too.
I mean, I feel like you know,everyone's taking their lights
down now from the holidays.
We kind of decorate with thelights to lift up our spirits.
While the other animals arehibernating, we're putting up
lights to feel better, but Ikind of just want to hibernate
now.
I do too, and some days arebetter than others, and that's
(19:21):
what I miss about summer orliving in when you know, living
in California or Florida whereit's like, consistently good,
like warm weather.
Even Mississippi.
Yeah, I mean, but that wasn'tfun.
You know when you could get outand like put your shorts on,
like feel the vitamin D, go on awalk.
You're not like freezing yourass off Like I.
(19:44):
Just that's what I need rightnow.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I know, I know I feel you because I think in some
ways like that's why people takethese little like snowbird
vacations.
I am happy and excited to getto Mexico.
I'm going to be doing a projectthere.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm so jealous, I know, can you come with me?
You're supposed to take me withyou on your co-host.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I invited you, but you're like I have children.
I got to take care of somebabies.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We already have a trip planned for later this
month.
Yes, yes I think it's going tohappen, but I think that I've
have some reservations now.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
About the drones.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
About the drones.
So we have a trip for New York.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
City planned.
We were going to redo our umcover photo that we haven't done
, since we were like 20 20 yearsold.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
We were 20, holy shit um, and we wanted to redo it
and we wanted to maybe meet upwith people in new york city and
do some interviews there yesbut I'm just having some
reservations now about whetheror not this is the right time to
do that because of the drones.
So what would you do?
Would you go still, or wouldyou maybe just wait it out until
(20:52):
this drone stuff is?
Hopefully?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
over.
We want to know what you guysthink.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
What would you guys?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
do.
Is it a good idea to betraveling to New York City?
All the New Yorkers that havebeen listening and following
with us, what are your thoughts?
I mean, I don't even know.
Is it just New Yorkers thathave been listening and
following with us?
Like, what are your thoughts?
I mean, I don't even know.
Is it just New York?
It's getting into Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I think it's been in Philly, like Maryland,
New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I heard there were sightings in like
California too, which isconfusing.
So it's like the coasts.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think we're just going to have to bring it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think we're just gonna have a little scary.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I think we got.
I mean, hey, listen, you know,work doesn't sleep I know that's
what I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm like, hey, I mean even.
I think when covid happened,everybody kind of like put a
pause on their life and yes it'slike do I want to like put a
pause on my life?
Not really, but then at thesame time it's like maybe I
should be overly cautiousbecause I have kids.
I know, and God forbid we gothere at the wrong time and
(21:50):
something awful happens.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, we just don't know what this is.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, you've always been a little bit more, I guess,
cautious.
In general, I've always been alittle bit more of a rebel,
which I don't think has alwaysworked out.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, being a guy, I've always been a little
bit more of a rebel, which Idon't think is always.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
well, you're a bull, you just charge forward yes,
women are a little bit morecautious typically.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I know like last week we were looking at like old
pictures together and I kind offelt like a little emotional and
I want to know what you feltlike.
The nostalgia of looking at oldpictures with old friends kind
of almost brought like tears tomy eyes and it's like I want to
reconnect with some old friendsbut then I hesitate to reach out
(22:35):
because it's been so long andit might be like awkward now you
know what?
what do you?
How do you feel about that,like with our old friends from
like I don't know, high schoolwe were looking at old pictures
and even college, like do youreach out or do you just kind of
let it, let the past be thepast?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
you know what I always took your advice shoot
your shot yeah, I'm in themoment, I'm literally like I'm
just shooting my shot.
Like I saw this sign today andit said f and m and you know I
was franco and the lastrelationship like couple
relationships ago was m and so Ijust saw this like logo f and m
(23:12):
and I was like I used to likesee an album f and m.
So then I just took the pictureand I sent it and that x.
I'm sure they're probably gonnabe like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
you really did, I did , I did.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh my god, I mean, it's a little embarrassing, but
I think of you all the time.
I want to do something likeshoot your shot like I even sent
like something like some oldthing like what you're talking
about, like it was like a 16thbirthday card from my girl, emmy
, and she was at uh, swicklyquaker valley and I just sent it
(23:44):
to her on dm.
I don't even have her numberanymore.
I just slid into her dms againand she was at uh, swickly
quaker valley and I just sent itto her on dm.
I don't even have her numberanymore.
I just slid into her dms againand she was like, oh my god,
that was such a fun time of ourlife and it's like that was 16.
Wow, weird time ago.
I know we're getting old girl,you're shocked you've kind of
given up um caffeine for the newyear yeah, it's weird like I
(24:05):
feel like I'm getting a lot moresleep, but then I'm also kind
of like a little bit moreenergized.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I think caffeine, like, would put those peaks and
valleys yeah, it's almost likeyou the first cup, you get a
little energy, and then, likethe second cup, you get like a
lot of energy and then, maybe,like the third cup, you start
like actually getting tiredexactly like it doesn't help
like water is more energizing itseriously reminds me of this
one song by stacy orico.
(24:31):
It's called there's gotta belike.
There's gotta be more to lifethan like chasing these like
temporary highs and I feel likefor me, like with caffeine, and
it can even be like alcohol orjust anything working out you're
just overdoing it.
You're chasing this high, it'sthis temporary high and it's
like there's gotta be more.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That like can satisfy me than like this extra cup of
coffee like even like sex andlike you know it's like
everything right so like,everything like is so addictive
that you know, peace issomething that I am really
striving for for 2025.
I really don't care aboutanything or anyone.
(25:15):
I mean, work is always going tobe a little bit stressful, but
that's, that's giving me.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Like you know, that's paying my bills and everything
but you're really finding yourbearings now Because I know
anytime you start a new job, italmost takes like three to six
months to really get into thegroove.
You're there now, but now youhave more on your plate because
you're growing.
So how are you handling it all?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know what I think ?
It's meditation, the sauna andworking out the sauna.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yes, yes, yes, major health benefits to the sauna it
increases my mood better thanany glass of wine could.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Right Sauna.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It sweats out the toxins.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You feel so clear?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You got to go in for 15 to 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I've always done a solid 25.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, 25 is fine.
Let to 20 minutes.
Yeah, I've always done a solid25.
Yeah, 25 is fine, let it warmup.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, you know, and I do think that, like the
cardiovascular health thatdecreases like immortality, like
by 50% it does.
I mean it is just so manybenefits that like if you're not
using a sauna or if you do haveaccess, to a sauna.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Try to hit it at least three times a week.
Yeah, a sauna.
Or, if you do have access to asauna, at least three times a
week, yeah, yep.
Monday, wednesday, friday.
I feel it in my body like.
I feel like you use it at lafitness.
I do, I go and I I sometimeswould get like heart
palpitations, but ever sinceI've started using the sauna, I
have not had one single heartpalpitation well, it increases
your cardiovascular.
(26:43):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Your heart is pumping a little bit more because it's
in stress mode.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Because the heat.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But it's like this euphoric feeling.
I love it Sauna for life.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We all need a sauna right.
This is something that I alsowant to bring to people's light.
When I came back to Pittsburgh,this is something that I wasn't
open about.
I moved in with my parents.
I live with my brother and hiswife, and then I moved in with
my parents and you know, like Ihad my grandma's PT cruiser.
It was really hard adjustmentat 33.
(27:20):
And so somebody brought this tomy attention.
Like we talk about all the goodrainbows and fairy tales of,
like you know, doing the podcast, there is a lot of stress and
work that goes into this and,like you yourself, like you're
running around crazy trying tofigure out how to be a mother of
two, you know funds go up anddown and it's like you want to
(27:44):
move in, like you know I want tobuy a car, and like living with
my parents is not easy at thisage, and like even you yourself,
like your house is, like youknow the walls are starting to
come in, like close in, like youneed more space.
So it's like everything thathappened last year.
We are so grateful and we wantto be more open about not just
(28:05):
the glamorous side of theequation but also the hard parts
I okay.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So I I'm really glad that you are being so open about
this.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It resonates with me, though, because I, you're,
you're taught, you wereembarrassed to talk about it in
the.
Moment but it's in the past now, so you're like whatever I'm
doing better now, so now it'seasy to say but I'm glad that
you're bringing it up, becausepeople need to know that, like
it's not just sunshine andrainbows for you.
You make it look that way, butit's not that way.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I was embarrassed to live with my parents.
And I was also embarrassed tolike be at that point in my life
that I was like.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You owned that PT cruiser, though I point in my
life that I was like you ownedthat put cruiser, though like
you fucking owned it, you couldhave been, like you know,
embarrassed and like hiding andstuff, but you just like didn't
care like you acted like youdidn't care, and you know what I
did act like that, and you knowwhy?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
because I was so grateful to have a car from
grandma and it was not only theconnection between my like
spirit animal, grandma Nancy.
God bless her, rest her soul.
I know.
God bless her.
Rest her soul.
I love her, you loved her, Iloved her.
But I was also like you knowwhat, like I need to grow the
(29:20):
fuck up, like I can't just begetting handouts.
Like my whole entire life haskind of revolved around like
connecting myself with the rightpeople, dating the right people
to really leverage me up, to beable to like sustain this like
glamorous luxury lifestyle inNew York, but then I have like
(29:41):
not as much savings.
Yeah, I have no vehicle.
I have no like real like like Ihave experiences.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's it Clear, though You're kind of making
yourself sound bad.
You were working your ass off,though.
You just couldn't date someonewho I don't know was less
successful than you, or you'd beon the struggle bus, I know.
So I just want to that's justwhat I see as your friend.
You're kind of making yourselfsound like oh, I'm like looking
(30:09):
around to date people with likemoney.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I don't like that about myself.
I think there is this part ofme that, like I don't want to
date another creative or I don'twant I'm not really like
interested in that notcompatible.
Yeah, it's just not compatiblelike I need that person that's a
little bit more stable andcorporate right, or I just need
myself.
And I said to myself like kimkardashian said is this
(30:34):
embarrassing to like?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
compare quotes I love Kim.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She said I want to be single for two years.
Well, guess what?
December 20th was year one andI'm ready for year two.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I want to stay single .
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I love that I don't want to be committed to anybody
but me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, and I think, like I definitely am nervous
about when you do start datingagain, because you did mention
that you would love to datewomen again, when you start and
like I know any women that couldbe like dating a bi guy.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Is it okay?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
well, am I.
Are you gonna be okay with mebecause we're besties and I'm,
lucky like my husband's, coolwith it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
He's also your bestie god so lucky.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But for someone to come in that doesn't like that's
not part of this little triothat we have going on.
I know it's like if you'regoing to like, hate me.
It's not going to work, honey.
I know it's not going to work,my business partner.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You have to love my business partner.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Or not even love, because, like there's not any
amount of love, men don't have agirl best friend.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, that's true, and like I'm, I'm lucky that,
like I, am able to have a malebest friend, like that's not
really a normal thing.
It's not as common it helpsthat he's bisexual right or even
gay for all intents andpurposes, my husband's like oh,
he's gay, whatever I wouldn't befriends with you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would not be friends with you if you were not
at least bi.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
But isn't it weird, though, like it should be
acceptable, because people, Ithink what's another thing about
me is not like anything to dowith us being promiscuous, yeah,
but I do notice that I saw thislittle short with James Franco.
With James Franco, he was notable to remain faithful to any
(32:19):
relationship because when he wasdrunk or high, he would always
be promiscuous, always beinappropriate, always be like
hooking up.
And with me being sober, I feellike, so in control of like,
okay, I am not going to beinappropriate with another
person.
So, that being said, said likeI trust myself more now I know I
(32:40):
love it.
Sometimes I have like a glasstoo many and I like flirt a
little bit with you and you'relike you're like don't do that
only because I love your husbandjust as much as I love you,
I'll do it in front of him Iknow, I know, but I do really
want to find the girl.
I do want to Like.
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I had two relationships with guys
Accepting applications here.
Yes, yes, your contract won'tstart for another year, I know.
Hey, you know what I'm ininterviewing phases.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And I am.
You know, I am like I got a lotof red flags so like, by any
means looking, you're notlooking right now.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's why you need to drop your resume.
Handle, you know, yeahinstagram handle.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's better than a resume.
You think I should change mydefault photo for my instagram
because it's just like ashirtless photo with a rose.
Is that like kind of old?
It reminds me of the bachelorso I need to change it to like
maybe the headshot for realestate.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Or it's a pre-indication that you're going
on the Bachelor?
Oh, you should apply the bibachelor.
No, you should apply to be onit as one of the men.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
CBS is not that accepting.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
They're not that woke .
Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, they're just that bi, they're going to take it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, bi don't fucking resonate.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, so I shouldn't say it, itwill.
There's been some bi people onthere before.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well yeah, Colton Hardwood, oh Underwood.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Hardwood.
I know where your head's at.
I literally knew that that waswrong with that?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I'm like what is it?
It's not Underwood, becausethat just sounds like he's
Underwood, underwood, becausethat just sounds like he's
Underwood, Conan Underwood.
And so another thing I noticedtoo from him he is dating this
older gentleman.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yes, he's married, maybe engaged.
They adopted a baby or maybe.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Very, very cute it could be biological to one of
them.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know enough to speak on that.
Very, very cute, it could bebiological to one of them.
I don't know enough to speak onthat, very, very cute but.
I notice.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I want somebody that is like younger than me or my
age.
I dated older a couple times.
I'm just like I, I like youngenergy.
I'm kind of over it, like eventhough I have like old soul
vibes with grammys and andGrandpaps you do, but I think I
just like want the young one,like I want like a Gen Z-er.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
A young buck or a young Kitten?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Kitten, like of course 25 and up.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Oh yeah.
Not like young like the frontalcortex, not like 18.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Frontal cortex needs to be developed, yeah explain to
me this frontal cortex that youbrought up before.
I'm going to say I don't thinkmine was fully developed until I
was like 27.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I truly think it's important, though, for that
frontal cortex to be developed.
Yeah, and I waited for mine tobe developed before I had like
children and stuff because I wasbatshit crazy.
I know I was like a wild girl,we both were.
Definitely Like I used to likeat parties, like I just didn't
care I know and you know whatyou have really so like.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Why not like?
I think in some ways, like Itotally would too yeah, like if
you got it flaunted was my likemotto excited.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's so many good things to come.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Guys, happy new year you guys are some of the best
listeners.
We call it our mocktailers andour Cocktailers.
If it wasn't for you, we wouldnot be able to do these things
like share the journey ofmocktails or Messy.
This is Ryan Frankofsky andKelly.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Msgorski.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Bye, bye, felicia.
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