February 26, 2025 • 45 mins
Join us LIVE for a raw, unfiltered celebration straight from our studio! 🥂 After finally hitting 10,000 followers on Instagram (we did it!), we’re popping bottles (alcoholic AND non-alcoholic, because why not?) to mark this huge milestone!
Kelly's Dream Come True 🌾: From childhood dreams to reality, Kelly shares her journey of buying her very own homestead! Chickens? Ordered. Goats? On the waitlist. 🐓🐐 Plus, she's already planning vegetable gardens and berry patches — it's the farm life she’s always wanted.
Ryan’s Year of Sobriety & Butterfly Effects 🦋: Ryan dives into his evolving dating life after a year of sobriety, talking about the surprising butterfly effects and new connections he’s experiencing. Trust us, it’s not what he expected!
Real Talk on Birth Experiences 🤰: The conversation gets deep as Kelly opens up about her traumatic delivery stories, and we discuss the things society doesn't want us to share about childbirth and our bodies. It's time to get real about these tough topics that need more space.
Sober Socializing Tips 🍸: We’re answering YOUR questions on how to navigate social situations without alcohol, from bowling nights to outdoor adventures. Plus, we share our all-time favorite mocktail recipe (that Amethyst botanical spirit + Dirty Pelican’s spicy margarita mix? chef’s kiss).
And the best part? We’re here, full circle, embracing the messy, the vulnerable, and the authentic. This episode is all about celebrating evolution and reclaiming our truth—no more holding back, just real conversations. 💯
So, whether you’re sober, sober-curious, or just looking for more honest relationships with alcohol and yourself, this episode’s for YOU.
👉 Drop a comment below if you're on a similar journey. We're cheering for you every step of the way!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Mocktails or Messy.
This is Ryan Frankowski andKelly Mazgorski.
Welcome.
We are live for the first timein the clubhouse, in the studio
Me.
We got our crew over here.
We got Peter Parker and LizaMinnelli Say hi.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
They like to be behind the scenes did you order
him a car.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh fuck, okay, so you're gonna have to like, yeah,
okay, yeah, we're ordering acar, so we have a guest coming
later and we are.
He said he wants to get reallymessy so he's like you gotta
order a car for me.
I'm not gonna be showing upthere with a car and then have
to like uber home or drive homeor you know.
No, nobody's drinking anddriving anymore, that's that's
not a thing, that's so 2005exactly.
(00:49):
I mean, that's kind of fucked upand messy to say, but it is
true, like people would justtake advantage or they would
just fuck around.
And, like you know, I remember,I will say, the one time we went
to jay's other place on route 8, and this was when we just
turned 21 oh my gosh, I wasn't21 yet you were 20 and had a
fake id yeah oh my god, okay, solet me order this car but jay's
(01:09):
other place, I, we, we gotfucked up because we were at the
poorhouse on route eight inhampton and then we were like we
want to go somewhere more funand we want to get, like you
know, lit and I don't know why.
We thought that was a good ideaand drive, and I remember this
was the one and only time I sawthe lines on the road when we're
going home and it was likeblurry lines on the road and I'm
like never again oh my god, Iwas in the car with you and I
(01:30):
was driving your car, the fordescort oh my god, we would have
died in that that thing was likepaper thin um that's scary.
I didn't know that that wasstupid but yeah we.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That was like the first time I'd ever been to a
bar yeah and they didn't evenquestion my fake id.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I know you I guess you were young.
You were young for our year.
You were in june with us.
I think we just did a lot ofthings by ourselves right yeah,
is it because we were losers anddidn't have that many friends,
or we just like, didn't want tobe bothered with anyone else?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
it was exclusive, so we are.
Yes, we're ordering a car forgregory because yeah, don't get
it twisted.
He hates greg okay, we're notgonna call him greg yes he said
that we don't have enough messy.
People on mocktails are messyyeah, you believe that like
which.
Maybe he's right.
Maybe we need to make it alittle messier.
I guess I mean we definitely,once you got this car ready I
(02:27):
know from both of us.
I'm gonna open up this corbelchampagne because I have a drink
that I'm gonna make today incelebration of something.
So I'm gonna open this up andtry to not get myself a black
eye uh-huh yeah I alwaysstruggle with these because they
scare me.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I know, and now Corbel.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Maybe I need your help.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I did.
I just want to try to sharethis with him.
Do you want to see?
We'll flip.
Okay, flip flop, flip fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I'm going to tap out, you tap in.
We're going to ride this traintogether.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you know what flip fuck means in the gay world?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, tell me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay.
So it's like whenever there'ssomebody that is like a top,
that prefers to like be thedominant one, like go in and
then like they will flip.
Like the guy who's the bottomis like the one who likes to
take it, like the catcher, thepitcher.
So when somebody says flip,fuck, it's like they like to go
back and forth, so they'reversatile.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
If you were a gay man , what would you be?
I would be a top.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, you probably would.
What are you?
I'm total verse.
I used to be like dom-top.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're flip-flop.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, but then everybody laughed at me.
They were like you're not adom-top, are you fucking crazy,
you little fucking queen?
What's dub dom, oh, dom, yeah,yeah, like meaning like
dominantly, like dominantly topoh, gotcha okay yeah, I mean
it's just a little like gaygayisms, culture yeah, for you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, you think I would know it all, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're still a little green, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I guess it's just not like the life I'm
living right now.
I am a stay at home, mom yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, we, we, we do address that every time.
You know.
You got to remind everybody youare a stay at home mom with two
kids that are running aroundPeople.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
just they just don't believe it, because I'm just so
cool.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm just kidding.
I still don't believe it.
I even think your friends arealways like how are you doing
this?
As much as I knew you weregoing to be a mom, but it's kind
of surreal.
You are actually a veryresponsible adult now, Thank you
.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I never thought the day would come.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
honestly, but you're not responsible where you get
the good shit.
You got the Corbel.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
What made you?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
decide this brand.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
What was at the price ?
That's my husband.
He's cheap.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, what is wrong with me?
So next time don't.
Okay, we're going to pop it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Plan your.
Why can't I share this Woo?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Woo, okay.
Popping bottles, bitch and bodywaddle Just Is just.
Is that a song?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, that is a song.
I cannot figure out how to likeshare that, I know, I think we
have to wait to like share it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean me and you.
It's like the blind leading theblind when it comes to certain
things like technology.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We gotta focus on our , on our life, okay, so I am
making a new beginning.
Mimosa, today I have the, thereal stuff.
There's alcohol in this and youhave the alcohol free.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, yes, and we owe it to your husband for picking
up, you know.
Hey, let's be real here.
Like sometimes you just got tobe cheap, and I'm not saying
he's a cheapskate, but likethese are not my go-tos.
But free isn't good, okay,sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'll buy you the expensive stuff next time.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm not saying, jesus Christ, you're such a snob, now
that you're climbing the realestate ladder you're turning
into a snob.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now you're making more money.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh God, I know.
So I have Corbel.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Or you can have whatever champagne you want, and
I have cranberry juiceCranberry, cranberry.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's the best, so I'm going to put a splash in bigger
than okay.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So actually that was cute, okay, listen.
So when you make a mimosa, areyou the type that is like all
champagne and one little drop,or are you like 50, 50, 25, 75?
Let's see um this is how I do.
I'm the drop, I literally dothe camera pretty much all
champagne okay, so I'm gonna domy champagne.
Is it working okay, filled uplike that?
(06:32):
And then I'm gonna take mycranberry juice and I'm gonna
try not to spill it everywhereyeah, I know we gotta get you a
smaller bottle and, um, okay,just like that.
Yep, just a little splash.
I don't know if I got that onthe camera, but just a splash.
And then what I'm gonna do nowis I'm gonna take some fresh
(06:54):
mint and I'm just gonna, um, putit in there just like that.
Wow, so pretty that is so cute.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know it's all about the garnish guys Whenever
we're doing like you're themessy.
Today You're doing an alcoholicchampagne like the legit, the
real, the OG champagne, and whenyou do have those garnishes it
just makes such a hugedifference Like it could be
sparkling water, it could besomething in a fancy glass Like
(07:22):
get the garnish guys, it'sdelicious, delicious.
It just makes it look a littlebit more presentable and like
more fun to drink now a newbeginning.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Mimosa it's a symbolic drink, so it's
typically um it.
It represents like a freshstart, positive change, and boy
do we have a lot to share today.
Damn, I mean if you're invested, if you've been following us
since episode one that was overa year ago over a year ago.
(07:49):
We we have some hefty goals andwe've been working on them for,
yes, a long time now here sofirst we did break 10 000
followers on instagram let's go,let's fucking go they would
never come.
it's like, when you're gettingputting yourself out there,
sometimes it can just feel sostagnant and it's like how do we
(08:09):
get more followers?
How do we?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, I got to give you credit.
You were the reason we did,because you put to turn Tony
involved in our episode and madethat really cute video Like why
do we like to turn Tony?
Why do we want to support him?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Because he's hot.
I think that one video did getus out there a bit and, um, you
know, just working with ourfriends and stuff, and figuring
things out that's fucking goodgirl you're right, the mint
really like adds a little okay,so we we hit 10 000 yes, we did,
(08:43):
we did.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
baby, let's go.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You're crushing it with real estate.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, let's be real here.
Real estate is just crushing itbecause of the context, the
sphere of influence.
Like I'm also very on edge,like I am going out for
everybody.
I am going to help your motherout, I'm going to help your
cousin out, I'm going to help mybest friends out.
So the thing is, because itcould dry up tomorrow, I could
(09:11):
have, like, once we close onproperties, you don't know who's
your next client.
It's kind of like an acting job.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's like once you finish the production, you are
not guaranteed another job soyou found me and my husband, my
family, our dream house are wetalking about?
I'm gonna just say it.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, it would take a lot for this to follow.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We're closing very soon.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We are.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Everything seems to be going well, right.
Okay, nothing to be concernedabout here.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So I already ordered my chickens.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh my, what Wait what ?
I ordered chickens online.
How do you order?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
chickens.
I went to a hatchery it'scalled Myers Hatchery and I just
ordered them, so they're goingto be shipped to me when they
hatch.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I am so excited guys.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm going to start with like the homesteading life
that I've been wanting to doforever.
I want to grow my ownvegetables, some berries, apple
trees, things like that that dowell up north in our climate.
I mean I wish I could growlemon trees and stuff, but let's
be real that's not going towork up north.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That'll be for the next place.
That'll be for the next streamhome.
That'll be for my LA or Miamihome, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we're moving and I'm soexcited, I'm so excited for you.
I'm on a wait list to get goats.
I found a goat breeder, a pygmygoat, you really are going and
you don't fuck around, you'relike this is happening.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is happening this I've waited my whole life,
since the day I was born, to beable to have like farm animals
and things.
So, um, I think my goats willbe born in like june for a sec
no, I can't chill.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm no chill you have no fucking chill.
I love it, but I'm also likeI'm like nervous for you because
I'm like I'm gonna have to helpyou with all this stuff, right?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, no, no, just don't let the house fall through
, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
No, no, no, no.
We are aggressively on top ofit and you know that's the
beautiful thing about workingwith your best friends, with
your family.
You get to see the magic happenand you get to see the dream
home, like, prosper and like.
I couldn't have seen a better.
I showed you guys this placelike on Zillow, like months ago,
(11:07):
but you at the time were likeit's not enough land.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I know and I was like really hell bent on living in a
particular location that I'verecently like decided that's not
actually what I want.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, I mean, listen as much as you could be the
Wexford wife, the Wexford wifeis really not that exciting.
I mean it's cute, but it's likeyou're so close to there and
then you're also like very closeto like other things that we
won't go into detail because wedon't want to give away your
location.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I don't need any stalkers.
Been there, done that, had thatbefore, I had that before.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I had that too in new york yeah, that's some scary
shit yeah and we're not sayingthat, not that like I don't want
to sound like we're like thatwhat like full of ourselves?
The stalker thing I think wejust sometimes like we forget to
like maybe not put our addressor our cell phone number.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh hi, Casey Casey's watching.
Oh, my God, is Casey watching?
We want to get Casey in.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I know I really want to get Casey in the studio, but
she's like I don't want to talkabout my life, I'm a private
person and I'm like but you haveso many good stories, Casey, we
want you to come on.
At least give us like twominutes of your time give us
like two minutes of your time.
I know, please, casey, comeright now, before she decides to
pick up and leave.
You never know what's going onwith Casey.
(12:28):
She could be here, she could bethere, she could be in Europe,
she could be in Miami, she couldbe in New York.
It's like she's all over themap and I swear to God, it's
just the coffee I swear.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You guys, it's hard friends.
I haven't made a new friend inlike two years and I finally
made a new friend, casey, and wewon't.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
We won't say that she's moving.
Why?
Because we don't know yet.
We don't know because I thinkthat like they're still trying
to figure out, you know oh, okay, I just feel like she's, I mean
she wants to, I think so I'mlike oh please don't move.
Well, she wants your life, shewants the little kids, she wants
the homestead.
Or maybe she is a city girl,though, like that's the one
thing like you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I felt like when you met.
You were like this Tight asfuck, but then you're the farm
chick and she's the city slicker.
Every city girl needs a farmgirl, friend, bestie.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Bestie friend.
You need that, you need thatdiversity right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think you're right.
I think you're right to balanceeach other out yeah, because
I'm a city person and you're acountry girl I like.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Obviously I've never been raised in the country and I
never lived in the countrybefore, but it's something I
always wanted.
But you were a suburban chickthat was out in the country for
many, for many years you didn'teven know the city of pittsburgh
I was like shocked that youdidn't know how to get around
when I think about even mycollege, that I went to Slippery
Rock, that was kind of countryand I never realized like how
country that was until recently.
(13:50):
But that is okay, so that's myalarm to get my daughter.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh, but nope.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I don't have to get her.
My husband's home.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He's gonna go get her Because I was gonna say you
know, sometimes you don't trustanybody to pick up your daughter
, so you're always like I gottago.
And like we'll be midconversation, mid recording, and
you're like fuck, I didn't findthe person that was going to
get her, and then they're goingto be five minutes late and I'm
like Kelly, you're leaving mehanging on the fucking mic.
But hey, it's your firstborn.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I get it.
I actually don't get it, but Iwill get it, but I will get.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Have you ever heard of misophonia?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
you always bring these good terms up.
I have never heard of that Ithink I have it you have
misophonia misophonia.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think I do phonia yeah what is it so?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
are there any like guess?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
does the sound of someone like chewing food or
eating?
Does that bother you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm that guy that does it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You do it, doesn't bother me, okay, does anything
is there any sound that, likeyou hear it and it kind of like
really bothers you, it triggersyou.
Maybe you get a littleemotional or like angry.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes, my babysitter growing up, for all intents and
purposes the one that kind oflike scarred us.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
She would always make these noises Like when she
would get up off the couch.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
it was just annoying she'd get like, oh, like it's
hard to get up like it was likeannoying and I don't know what
it was like a high pitch, likeIs this real?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, that's so strange .
Speaker 1 (15:13):
God rest her.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And she's not with us anymore.
Rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
God rest her.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Even though she did traumatize you as a child.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, that's another.
Well, we've talked about thatbefore.
We've covered that in laterepisodes.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, Other episodes.
Anyways, I think I have it, butlike not to spread like hate on
men, but like sometimes when aman's voice is really deep and
like loud it like pierces myears.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It like hurts.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It like hurts my ears and it makes my head feel like
it's going to explode.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like Brian's.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Even my husband, he can, I'm like do not talk to me
in that voice.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So how does it like?
Can you like mimic it, can you?
Like I can't talk that low,okay, I can't talk that low,
okay, but it's just like Iprobably can't either.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
See, that's a little low for me.
You're getting a little low.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Really yes, so you would rather.
I like your tone.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Your tone is fine.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, I got a little high pitched vibe to it.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So but if you went like lower it's.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I just can't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And asked chat gpt.
I was like what the fuck is,what is this?
And they're like you need tolike chat gpt was like you need
to seek help, like I need totalk to somebody and get help
with this because, like I thinkI do, because I I get just very
enraged and no hate.
No hate on men, like not with alow voice, like please, no hate
, it's just, I mean I can't Ihave the I would, so I would be
actually more aroused and turnedon by really I think some
(16:38):
people are but for me it enragesme.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm like shut up, stop talking like I can't, I
can't listen to it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I see I I can't even imagine not being like oh,
that's kind of hot well, I meanthink of it this way like some
girls have like really highpitched voices that's too much
for me, but I also likeappreciate it because it's so
like.
It's like wow, like mesmerizingI, I appreciate like a female
voice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, um, but I watched that new uh amy schumer
movie kind of kind of pregnantand it was so good, hilarious
she, I swear she's gettingfunnier and funnier with each
movie.
So did you think it was tooslapstick, like, like, was it
like her though.
It is her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I thought I was laughing outloud it was so pathetic to like
(17:26):
fake a pregnancy, but I thinkit made some like real
vulnerable points because likereal vulnerable points, because
like I have like friends in lathat have like been really
trying hard to get pregnant andlike it has been so stressing
them out, and I think,unfortunately, like that was
very funny and I guess that gaveshed some light on.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, absolutely like.
Did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
yeah, yes but to go back to the movie, we'll go back
to the funny parts no, I thinkthe message was great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but also likekind of psychotic, like that
she faked it hers.
Yeah, yeah, like her characterwas definitely psychotic, but or
maybe just like a real honest,vulnerable person that just got
(18:09):
jelly, you know yeah I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It is kind of fucking weird like how, like I love
that the other comedian, thelike counselor in the movie that
was like you need to seek helpyes, you are so fucking
ridiculous that you're likefaking this fake baby bump yeah,
no, but she, well, I wouldn'tdo that, but there was a quote
that kind of, or like part ofthe movie that kind of was like
(18:34):
oh yeah, that makes sense.
Like they said that like women,like how many birth stories
have you heard?
And like we eternalize thislike crazy traumatic experience
and we just like never talkabout it again, right, and it's
like.
It's like do you even know,like how you were born?
(18:54):
Do you know your birth story?
no like we just don't.
People don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean they talk about the good part.
Yeah, like that, my, the guy,that the, the, what is it called
?
The, the doctor that has you?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
yeah he.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
His birthday was my birthday oh really and it was
his 70th birthday, so he had tolike expedite this process
because I got a big 70thbirthday.
Oh my gosh and so his name wasalbert.
But anyways, other than that,they didn't talk about the
fucked up shit.
Yeah, and like they justglamorize it, right?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
yes, you were the first person who told me I know
and I've never shared it, so I'mjust gonna share it today since
yeah, be honest I.
I mean, if this isn't what youwant to hear, sorry, but I'm
going to tell you everythingthat happened and I'm going to
summarize it, though.
So I was in labor for a verylong time like the first with
the first.
Yeah, it was like 18 hours oflike.
(19:44):
Oh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I know there's but that's probably normal right I
think for a first time likedefinitely it takes.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They normally don't just like slide on out of the
first time?
Well, yeah, because it's sotight sure, so my I was not
dilating, so basically, you havea cervix in there and it's
supposed to dilate so that thebaby can come out, and mine just
was like not, they had toinduce me.
I was over 40 weeks and so 40 islike nine months and some
(20:16):
change yeah, I was like 40 weeksand four days and they gave me
pitocin, which is supposed toit's like a hormone and it's
supposed to put you into labor,and it just was.
I was getting contractions butI was not dilating.
Um, so I'm just like push, likefinally I was dilated after
using a peanut ball.
I had to lay on my side withlike this ball between my legs
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and like for some reason thatworked I felt like I had to take
a shit.
I was like I think I have topoop and I'd already had an
epidural so I couldn't walk.
And then they checked me and itwasn't that I had to poop, it
was the baby's head was startingto crown right oh my god, and
it was just like a reallybizarre did ryan or did your
husband get to see it?
He watched the whole thing.
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He's.
I'm surprised he'll even touchme now I would.
I would be traumatized fromlike what he saw but anyways,
I'm pushing, and pushing,pushing.
There was no progress and Irefused to c-section like an
idiot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
They're trying to tell me like why did you not do?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I just was like I didn't want the scar and I was
like it was really like no, likeI'm, I was on a.
I was like I'm a woman and I'mgoing to do this like a woman
and I'm gonna push this out ofmy like vagina like I'm supposed
to like.
It was like this I.
It's not a good way of thinkingand you had the drugs obviously
I had.
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I did have the pitot.
Yes, I had the um epidural,which I didn't think I was going
to do that either, but holyshit, it hurt so bad I had to.
Anyways, they had to cut me allthe way, like to my asshole,
like from coochie to asshole ohmy god, coochie to ass, yeah yep
, I all the way.
Fourth degree there's a fourthdegree tear and I tore up
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internally as well, oh my god.
And then they had to suck herout.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That's the shit that you don't hear, yeah then they
had like a suction cup.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
They just suck her out too and like basically
they're like you're really luckythat was the hardest delivery
like that we've had.
My, my doctor had been agynecologist for like 30 plus
years.
He's like don't ever do thisnaturally again.
Like you need a C-section nexttime.
He was like very serious.
He's like you know, I guesswe're lucky we don't have to
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break her shoulder or anythingto get her out.
So my pubic bone just likecomes down a little bit further,
so like there's just not, therewasn't as much space to come
out.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like you do I mean not to like say anybody like
doesn't have a perfect.
I think it's just like you.
I cannot believe how big yourbelly got because you were so
like little petite and you stillare, but it's just like I can
imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like your frame.
I ain't cute when I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, I turn into a tomato well, it's like crazy,
because I think it makes sense,because, like, when you are
without a baby, yeah, and evennow, like you're just so little,
like you don't have those, likeoh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm just so little.
I'm like, I'm like a littlefeather I'm going to blow away
guys.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, like you remember, like us in cross
country, runners are a little.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm going to tell my second birth story.
It's two seconds long.
So I go in with contractionsand his heart rate was dropping
and it was uh emergencyc-section.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Emergency c-section he's fine, you never told me
that.
Yes, I did, did I not did afterlike years later.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But okay, yeah, why would you not?
But those are my two birthstories and I want you to share
yours below or tell me how youwere born everyone has some
crazy stories on how they wereborn.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Ask your mom.
Yeah, ask your mom how you wereborn.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yes, I'm gonna ask her tonight yeah I'm gonna call
her tomorrow I feel like we liketalking about like it because
it is suppressed.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It is so suppressed I literally feel like talking
about birth yes, and I thinkeven from that movie, kind of
pregnant, it did bring like alot of like wow, like nobody
talks about the hard shit ornobody talks about the bad parts
, I mean you do when it's likefatal or very like yes, oh god,
we never want to hear that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, that was yeah, oh , and, like I know, I'm just
running my mouth right now butthis is an update so we did like
a q a on instagram.
And so people shared somestories and I did want to share
that I got a frying pan forValentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, wait.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Remember, I said I was going to amputate you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Is it a nice one?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's a cast iron frying pan.
In his defense, I did ask forone.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But you guys tell me.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
is that Valentine's Day appropriate?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, I'm like, are you kidding me?
I love my boy, but like Afucking frying pan.
He's my boy, but, like I'll betalking about this later, he's
like it's expensive, I'll behaving a problem.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm like how much was it?
He's like it was $200.
Wanted the meat.
Yeah yeah, he likes to cook hissteaks on there, so it's not a
valentine's day bullshit.
So I went and I dropped like acouple hundred hundred on like
new shoes, new kicks guys.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I went and I got some new kicks.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I was like, I'm just gonna do what I want.
I like them do you like them?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
those are cool I do like them.
I saw them and I was like damnthey look, I got some other ones
too.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So, anyways, I got my way anyways, oh, and.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm getting a new house.
Oh my God, don't act so,fucking cocky girl.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I need to shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I love it.
Okay, ryan, this question wecan be real with each other.
This one is for you.
So it says for someone who'ssober, curious, what tips would
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you give them to enjoy a nightout without feeling pressured to
drink?
Super curious, what are yourtips?
Um, to not feel pressured.
Not feel pressured, okay.
So I recently went out with abunch of drinkers and there was
a lot of like, discrepancy, likewhy don't you not drink?
Like not a judgment place, butI could tell that it was like is
this going to work?
Like, are we going to like, arewe going to vibe well tonight,
like all four of us?
And I think it's just having,truthfully, my mission behind
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the podcast and the messagebehind it is for people like me
who don't have necessarily likea problem of relapsing or are
not in a program, but I woulddefinitely be open to going to
AA as a program to supportmyself and others.
But I just need a mocktail, Ineed a non-alcoholic beer, I
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need a fancy beverage, so likethat's what my tip is If you
give me a mocktail, ideally lowsugar, please, and maybe not
like $20.
But if you give me a mocktail,ideally low sugar, please, and
maybe not like 20.
But if you give me anon-alcoholic beer, like, I'm
happy, I'm with the crew okay,yeah, that's good advice right
now now there's another.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
This leads me to the next question for you what is
your favorite mocktail?
Um, I would say it's definitelylike probably amethyst or Dirty
Pelican.
But you tell me what is yourfavorite you?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
nailed it, it's a combination of the two.
I like the Lemon Serrano,Amethyst non-alcoholic botanical
spirit Shout out to Amethystand our girl Jane Harmon.
And then we also love Brian andhis wifey at Dirty Pelican
Mixers.
So this is not just to likepromote their brands, because
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we're getting a promo code togive to you guys.
We don't get compensated justby, like you know, giving and
sharing this.
I love the jalapeno spicymargarita from Dirty Pelican Mix
it with the lemon serrano.
It is my favorite chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Those two brands do have the best flavors.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We have tried so many we've tried so many different
ones and those two hands downare the best flavors and
personally the amethyst.
I like to drink it on rocks oh,it's so good, it gives you a
little kick, yeah, and itactually tastes good, guys.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's not like that nasty fake liquor that tastes
like shit.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
We've had that shit before.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, this actually tastes, it's quality amazing and
it gives you that bite I loveit.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And then dirty pelican mixers I mean for and
skinny too.
So good, yeah, they're skinnyand they're healthy, they're.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think they're organic too I know I need to get
my facts.
You know you gotta get yourfacts straight, baby so here's
an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What do you both, what do you both navigate?
Oh sorry, how do you bothnavigate friendships when one
person is sober and the otherdrinks?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
oh, for both of us yeah okay.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I did at first, like my first couple months of
being sober, I was having a hardtime, like being on fun times
with you, because I saw youhaving so much more fun than me
and so I was like, oh god, youdidn't know you didn't like
intentionally do it, it's justlike part of the process, I
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think.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
In some way, I think I just kind of needed to accept
that, like you're gonna stillhave a good time, like you have
to like your mindset.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I never pressured him guys.
You cannot be pressuring yourfriends to drink just because it
might fit your agenda.
I truly didn't care To me, Ithought you were just as fun
with or without it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you think that everybody feels that way?
That is, in our posse, in ourcircle, in our crew?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, I do know that there's some people that made
you feel, yeah, you know likethey wanted the old ryan, that
like, because, trust me, if youthink he's crazy now, he is
batshit crazy when he drinks andmaybe maybe we don't want that
guys I don't think that's justtoo much, because you know
you're 34 years old I know Icould look like you know like I
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did before whenever I was nocome on.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You always look great I don't know I was getting a
big old pumpkin face from eatingand drinking and fucking take
out, and I think the thing itwas a slippery slope because
like then I was adding the potand then I was adding the drinks
and then I was adding the foodand then I was like, oh, I'm not
gonna work out tomorrow right,that's the one thing that'll get
me sometimes like, if I drink,I don't, I totally don't want to
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work out the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Um, but you gotta just do it anyways.
It makes you not want to drinkthen that day.
I know anyways, okay, what is afun, sober activity that you
recommend?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think the best one is something very simple is go
uh bowling I was going to saygolf I was going to say golf,
but bowling is so much fun youcould like have a blast if
there's good music on, likepeople can be drinking or you
can be not drinking.
I mean, what are your thoughts?
What's a good fun sober?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean any exercise cause.
Please don't be drinking whenyou're exercising.
You're going to hurt yourself,um, but I, I mean, I love just
hiking and things like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think hiking is really likenice to be out in nature and
just not like I've been so inthe gym.
And orange theory, like fitnessclasses, like sometimes we
forget to just go for a walkoutside or a run.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, Cause I will say this I don't want to replace
one you know problem withanother problem per se.
So like I would say likeshopping or something, but then
that, then that could get out ofhand and, before you know it,
you're spending too much money.
So I I do, like you know, thethings that are free, or, like
you know, not gonna break yourbank, like bowling.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, I know well, I think, oh, yeah, it is, it is um
, but I do think, even like thatreminds me I didn't even pay
for the bowling, so I gotta findout like, oh, and I'm the sober
one at this bowling alley withthe group of friends that I kind
of was having a great time with, not kinda.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Was that here or in New York?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That was in Pittsburgh, and this was this
past weekend and it was so muchfun, but I was the one that
forgot to take my shoes back.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I literally walked out of the place with the
bowling shoes, so you were likethe next bar.
Yeah, I was on another level.
I was the drunk one, sober.
Yeah, I was the fucked up one,yeah, um, okay, so this one's
good as an ex duo, exes duo.
What's the most surprisingthing you've learned about each
other since the breakup?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
an ex-duo I.
I didn't realize we were anex-duo, but oh, because you know
what somebody said yeah,exactly, I mean, I still kind of
forget that we dated you knowwhat?
What was the last time?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
when we were dating was it in freshman year.
It was in high school, guys umwell, yeah was it freshman year,
kind of in college.
Was it sophomore?
Oh yeah, it was kind of incollege.
Yeah, we'll call it a littlelike wing thing I, when I was
dating you, you really did makeme feel like I was like the
hottest bitch around oh, no shit.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So I like that.
I didn't realize that I saidthat what, what, what do you
think I did like?
What did I do to make you feelthat way?
you're just so like lots ofwords touchy and words of
affirmation um, that's good toknow, yeah, so I think whenever,
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um that thing, I rememberwhenever we broke up at
confirmation camp oh my gosh, wegot in trouble my mom was like
I'll never forget.
Kelly was like mrs frankovsky,can I like talk to ryan?
I think we need a little bitmore time and like it was just
like I don't know what we weredoing.
Were we like being like likeflirty in the woods?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
we were being flirty, so we got separated at church
camp and I mean, they put on awhole skit, they put on a skit.
Then the counselors put on askit for the camp yes about like
how not to act like aroundjesus or whatever, yeah it was
like a whole skit and it wasbecause of us and everybody
there knew it was because of usand it was so embarrassing I
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know, and they were almost likemaking us feel bad about it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, they definitely shamed us like they totally
slut, shamed me totally and youI know and I I just thought to
myself we were getting likeeverybody else like shit on us
because they were like we haveto sit through this shit now.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, like all the activities, we could have
been having a good time.
I think lunch got delayed.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
People were a little hangry, just two flirts and
church camp, you know yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, maybe don't do co-ed church camp.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was probably the problem.
I mean, that's why catholicschools, you know, keep them
segregated.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Keep the girls in one school and the boys in another.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'll never forget that that was great.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, what percentage of couples are lying about
wanting to be monogamous?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think 50 or 60 yeah , 60, I think I do feel like now
that I'm kind of like I I don'tknow like kind of like dating
around, like having like thesefeelings, like these, like these
butterfly effects.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, now that you mention it, I'm going to.
I got some questions for you,okay, so I'm getting a little
bit, do you want?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
me to answer it.
Yeah, well, I mean oh, Ithought you said 50%, Sorry oh
so oh, I guess I no you said 50%, Sorry oh so, oh, I guess I um
50% of couples, I think I thinkit might be 55 to 60% couples
that do not want to bemonogamous.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
And I guess you gathered this.
You gather this because of whydo you think that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I just think, as humans, like we want to like
have the partner.
It's like we want to be like belike, you know, in this like
courtship, this, like thisprivate, like relationship that
nobody can come in, and likefeel jealous or insecure and
like you want to feel safe inthis like partnership.
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But then after a while, likemost humans, it's like okay,
you're not gonna want to eat thesame thing every day, you're,
you're want to get a little bitof variety, and that goes with
like just human beingsthroughout life.
Like I'm not saying like youcan't be in a monogamous
relationship.
I just think eventually youstart to like be like okay,
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should we try a threesome?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
okay, you're thinking 55 to 60 percent start to think
this way yeah, yeah, you'reprobably right.
I mean, as a female, I've hadnever I'll never say who, but
I've had, you know, people'shusbands um, make me feel a bit
uncomfortable before in a goodway, or about oh in a way that
they, like, definitely want toyeah like they would cheat.
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I know like they, I, they would?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
they totally would.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like it's an
uncomfortable position to be in,but it's like you see it all
the time as a woman, as just awoman and even you probably see
that oh yeah, like I mean I feelbad for like this couple.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
They've been together forever and like you could tell
that they just with thechildren, they're making it like
work, they're doing the bestthing for the kids.
But you could tell they bothlike individually said to me,
like having kids is tough.
They were like I would love tolike have a hall pass, I would
love to like go on a trip andlike just get my rocks off if
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your relationship is strugglinglike don't, don't have.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Don't add kids to the mix.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It makes it so much harder.
If there's already cracks,don't add kids, but sometimes
the kids add the.
They work it out.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Sometimes it depends on the people, but anyways, I'm
starting to get confused because, well, first of all, you
haven't been as accessible,because you're always with
somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And I thought, oh, like I was trying to give you
your privacy, but like I'mhearing too many different names
now, and what is going on withyour dating life?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I just think it's never been like more fun, and I
think a lot to do with likesobriety and knowing like 34.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And give the background how you had planned
to be single for.
For two years, and I definitelyam it's been a year and two
months and you are definitelydating now.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I mean, dating is a loose term and I think it's
always good to interview beforeyou date.
Yes, I think there's aninterview process.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
If you're not official Even me, I'm fucking
crazy you can.
There's an interview process.
If you're not, even me, I'mfucking crazy.
So like 10 people at once ifyou're not official with
somebody.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's fine, it's totally fine okay, non-official,
yes, allows for people.
I mean, this is a thing.
Do you tell the others that?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
like no, hey, yeah, no, because well, here's the
thing you don't just you don'tjust say like go on one date and
say, oh my gosh, we're officialnow and we're like boyfriend
and girlfriend.
It takes a while.
You have to get to knowsomebody before you decide to be
boyfriend and girlfriend, and Ithink people forget that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Or boyfriend and boyfriend, or girlfriend and
girlfriend.
Yes, stupid me.
Oh, my God, you're so hetero.
I'm speaking from personalexperience.
Okay, okay, yeah, experience.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yes, thank you for calling me out, though.
So how's the dating going then?
I mean, it is so much fun.
It's giddy for like a couple ofdifferent reasons.
I see that you've been giddy,I've been giddy as fuck.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
But see the thing, I wanted to focus on work and I
wanted to like stay like on thegrind, but then it's just like I
guess I kind of forgot how goodit feels to have the butterfly
effect.
And I said this last time onValentine's Day.
I didn't even have a Valentine,which is totally fine, because
I think I didn't want to put allmy like, I didn't want to put
(39:13):
the pressure on anyone or myself, because then you have to
really like Valentine's Day canbe a little bit like solid, like
it can solidify it, I know.
Right, yeah, it can so like ifyou're dating a couple people.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So did that person ever come visit you for
Valentine's Day?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
No, and then get this fast forward.
I'm like just always havingsomebody that I connected with a
year ago and been back andforth, back and forth, but
nothing, like you know, I thinkI might've talked to you about
this person and then just likeall of a sudden like 180, like
just woo, like what the fuckLike?
(39:52):
But see, I'm wondering, is thisa thing where I'm in the
driver's seat and I'm ready totake the next step with whoever
it may be, if it's one or theother, I think you're firing up
your engines.
I'm firing up, I'm getting mymojo back.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I don't think you're ready as your friend.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I don't think you're ready.
No, no, no, no, but it isexciting.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think you just had a really good month with as a
real estate agent.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yes, Getting a little cocky.
It starts off slow, as you said.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well, it starts off slow, and now things are
happening for you, and not onlythat.
You've been getting a lot ofdeals with like commercials and
the modeling agency and I'm soproud of you.
Congrats.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Thank you.
And everything's taken off foryou right now.
Well, I think I'm just like I'mnot saying no to anything.
I'm saying yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And I'm also able to commit.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I think it's because that you think about it
Like.
I don't have children, I'm notin a serious relationship.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
But I think you you can kind of understand this too.
Yeah, your time.
You would have like triple theamount of time if you didn't
have a husband and didn't havechildren.
If you didn't have a husbandand didn't have children, yes,
you would have so much free time.
So whenever it's like busy,busy people get things done like
people get more done, that'sthe.
That's what I was trying.
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The busier you are, the moreyou'll get done.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
The busier you are, the more you get done so much
easier to keep it rolling whenyou're already really busy yeah,
uh, if you're just sitting athome.
You just want to stay sittingat home, like a body in motion
stays in motion yes, right, yeah, it all comes down to physics
and I do remember that, like Ihave to think back to like I've
been married for 11 and a halfyears now, but before then, like
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, and even before the kids, likeme and my husband, we're always
doing something I know and likeI miss.
I miss like being that busy, butlike I couldn't do it right now
well, I think you are busy inanother way yes, I'm like
strapped down to take care.
I'm mommy now.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You're mommy times two, mama mama times three
because your hubby says mommy no, he doesn't guys, but that's uh
, that's funny these are gettingold.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
These jokes are getting I love the jokes um
comment below if you like hisjokes or if you think they are
creepy or immature, yeah, orinappropriate.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
You know, I've been known to do that, but I think,
in some ways, like I don't thinkI cannot be appropriate, I
think it's just in my dna andthat's the thing I think.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
When we started the podcast, we're like how much of
ourselves should we be?
And we kind of went crazy inthe beginning.
We were totally ourselves kindof.
And then we kind of pulled backbecause we were getting
feedback like people will saymean things and like oh yeah
gossip and drama and it washateful.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
It was kind of hateful things, yeah, or it was
just like we were like slap,getting slapped on the wrist
right, and now I think we'vecome full circle and we're like
we don't care anymore like we'rejust going to be ourselves.
So if you don't, like us, don'twatch us like please
unsubscribe if you do not like I, I mean, I really hate to like
(43:01):
be that guy, but I just don'tgive a fuck because this is like
you know something we'repassionate.
We're having fun, we're beingvulnerable.
I think in some ways, like Iknow, and you know that like we
were met meant we were meant tospread the mission of Mocktails
or Messy.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yes, yeah, we are totally here for sobriety, sober
, curious and moderation.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
And even the Messy Boozehounds as friends.
Definitely I love a MessyBoozehound as long as you don't
drive.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And as long as you don't create drama.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And please wait until at least like four or five
o'clock to like have yourcocktail.
I know Please don't start inthe morning drama and please
wait until at least like four orfive o'clock to like have your
cocktail, I know please don'tstart.
I mean what?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
about boozy brunch, though on a weekend, fine.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Every now and then every once in a while, that's
totally fine.
I have yet to do that in awhile, but somebody asked me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
they were like what's the hardest thing about being
sober?
And I'm like the hardest thingabout being sober is going back
to new york and going out andwalking the streets and being
like, oh my God, I used to go toboozy brunch there.
I used to do boozy brunch thereand it was just like that was
my highlight.
But that's kind of a sadhighlight, because then you're
like that was just like yourwhole day was drunk.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know what Things are different now for everybody,
like I'm never going to be whoI was, you know, five years ago
and it doesn't matter, Like youknow five years ago, and it
doesn't matter, like it justdoesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
It doesn't.
And just like evolving, beingbetter, being better versions of
ourselves.
Yay, 30s, mid thirties.
Well, thank you guys forlistening to mocktails or messy.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
This is Ryan Frankovsky and Kelly, ms Gorski,
and we're signing out.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Appreciate it.
Our first live Congratulationsto anybody who is celebrating
sobriety or if anybody'spracticing mindful moderation
drinking.
We want to be there for you.
Please comment below.
If you are on a mission, likeus, we greatly appreciate it.
Welcome to Mocktails or Messy.
This is Ryan Frankowski andKelly Mazgorski.
Welcome.
We are live for the first timein the clubhouse, in the studio
Me.
We got our crew over here.
We got Peter Parker and LizaMinnelli Say hi.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
They like to be behind the scenes did you order
him a car.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh fuck, okay, so you're gonna have to like, yeah,
okay, yeah, we're ordering acar, so we have a guest coming
later and we are.
He said he wants to get reallymessy so he's like you gotta
order a car for me.
I'm not gonna be showing upthere with a car and then have
to like uber home or drive homeor you know.
No, nobody's drinking anddriving anymore, that's that's
not a thing, that's so 2005exactly.
(00:49):
I mean, that's kind of fucked upand messy to say, but it is
true, like people would justtake advantage or they would
just fuck around.
And, like you know, I remember,I will say, the one time we went
to jay's other place on route 8, and this was when we just
turned 21 oh my gosh, I wasn't21 yet you were 20 and had a
fake id yeah oh my god, okay, solet me order this car but jay's
(01:09):
other place, I, we, we gotfucked up because we were at the
poorhouse on route eight inhampton and then we were like we
want to go somewhere more funand we want to get, like you
know, lit and I don't know why.
We thought that was a good ideaand drive, and I remember this
was the one and only time I sawthe lines on the road when we're
going home and it was likeblurry lines on the road and I'm
like never again oh my god, Iwas in the car with you and I
(01:30):
was driving your car, the fordescort oh my god, we would have
died in that that thing was likepaper thin um that's scary.
I didn't know that that wasstupid but yeah we.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That was like the first time I'd ever been to a
bar yeah and they didn't evenquestion my fake id.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I know you I guess you were young.
You were young for our year.
You were in june with us.
I think we just did a lot ofthings by ourselves right yeah,
is it because we were losers anddidn't have that many friends,
or we just like, didn't want tobe bothered with anyone else?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
it was exclusive, so we are.
Yes, we're ordering a car forgregory because yeah, don't get
it twisted.
He hates greg okay, we're notgonna call him greg yes he said
that we don't have enough messy.
People on mocktails are messyyeah, you believe that like
which.
Maybe he's right.
Maybe we need to make it alittle messier.
I guess I mean we definitely,once you got this car ready I
(02:27):
know from both of us.
I'm gonna open up this corbelchampagne because I have a drink
that I'm gonna make today incelebration of something.
So I'm gonna open this up andtry to not get myself a black
eye uh-huh yeah I alwaysstruggle with these because they
scare me.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I know, and now Corbel.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Maybe I need your help.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I did.
I just want to try to sharethis with him.
Do you want to see?
We'll flip.
Okay, flip flop, flip fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I'm going to tap out, you tap in.
We're going to ride this traintogether.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you know what flip fuck means in the gay world?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, tell me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay.
So it's like whenever there'ssomebody that is like a top,
that prefers to like be thedominant one, like go in and
then like they will flip.
Like the guy who's the bottomis like the one who likes to
take it, like the catcher, thepitcher.
So when somebody says flip,fuck, it's like they like to go
back and forth, so they'reversatile.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
If you were a gay man , what would you be?
I would be a top.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, you probably would.
What are you?
I'm total verse.
I used to be like dom-top.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You're flip-flop.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, but then everybody laughed at me.
They were like you're not adom-top, are you fucking crazy,
you little fucking queen?
What's dub dom, oh, dom, yeah,yeah, like meaning like
dominantly, like dominantly topoh, gotcha okay yeah, I mean
it's just a little like gaygayisms, culture yeah, for you.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, you think I would know it all, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're still a little green, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I guess it's just not like the life I'm
living right now.
I am a stay at home, mom yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, we, we, we do address that every time.
You know.
You got to remind everybody youare a stay at home mom with two
kids that are running aroundPeople.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
just they just don't believe it, because I'm just so
cool.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm just kidding.
I still don't believe it.
I even think your friends arealways like how are you doing
this?
As much as I knew you weregoing to be a mom, but it's kind
of surreal.
You are actually a veryresponsible adult now, Thank you
.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I never thought the day would come.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
honestly, but you're not responsible where you get
the good shit.
You got the Corbel.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
What made you?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
decide this brand.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
What was at the price ?
That's my husband.
He's cheap.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, what is wrong with me?
So next time don't.
Okay, we're going to pop it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Plan your.
Why can't I share this Woo?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Woo, okay.
Popping bottles, bitch and bodywaddle Just Is just.
Is that a song?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, that is a song.
I cannot figure out how to likeshare that, I know, I think we
have to wait to like share it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean me and you.
It's like the blind leading theblind when it comes to certain
things like technology.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We gotta focus on our , on our life, okay, so I am
making a new beginning.
Mimosa, today I have the, thereal stuff.
There's alcohol in this and youhave the alcohol free.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, yes, and we owe it to your husband for picking
up, you know.
Hey, let's be real here.
Like sometimes you just got tobe cheap, and I'm not saying
he's a cheapskate, but likethese are not my go-tos.
But free isn't good, okay,sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'll buy you the expensive stuff next time.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm not saying, jesus Christ, you're such a snob, now
that you're climbing the realestate ladder you're turning
into a snob.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now you're making more money.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh God, I know.
So I have Corbel.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Or you can have whatever champagne you want, and
I have cranberry juiceCranberry, cranberry.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's the best, so I'm going to put a splash in bigger
than okay.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So actually that was cute, okay, listen.
So when you make a mimosa, areyou the type that is like all
champagne and one little drop,or are you like 50, 50, 25, 75?
Let's see um this is how I do.
I'm the drop, I literally dothe camera pretty much all
champagne okay, so I'm gonna domy champagne.
Is it working okay, filled uplike that?
(06:32):
And then I'm gonna take mycranberry juice and I'm gonna
try not to spill it everywhereyeah, I know we gotta get you a
smaller bottle and, um, okay,just like that.
Yep, just a little splash.
I don't know if I got that onthe camera, but just a splash.
And then what I'm gonna do nowis I'm gonna take some fresh
(06:54):
mint and I'm just gonna, um, putit in there just like that.
Wow, so pretty that is so cute.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know it's all about the garnish guys Whenever
we're doing like you're themessy.
Today You're doing an alcoholicchampagne like the legit, the
real, the OG champagne, and whenyou do have those garnishes it
just makes such a hugedifference Like it could be
sparkling water, it could besomething in a fancy glass Like
(07:22):
get the garnish guys, it'sdelicious, delicious.
It just makes it look a littlebit more presentable and like
more fun to drink now a newbeginning.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Mimosa it's a symbolic drink, so it's
typically um it.
It represents like a freshstart, positive change, and boy
do we have a lot to share today.
Damn, I mean if you're invested, if you've been following us
since episode one that was overa year ago over a year ago.
(07:49):
We we have some hefty goals andwe've been working on them for,
yes, a long time now here sofirst we did break 10 000
followers on instagram let's go,let's fucking go they would
never come.
it's like, when you're gettingputting yourself out there,
sometimes it can just feel sostagnant and it's like how do we
(08:09):
get more followers?
How do we?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, I got to give you credit.
You were the reason we did,because you put to turn Tony
involved in our episode and madethat really cute video Like why
do we like to turn Tony?
Why do we want to support him?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Because he's hot.
I think that one video did getus out there a bit and, um, you
know, just working with ourfriends and stuff, and figuring
things out that's fucking goodgirl you're right, the mint
really like adds a little okay,so we we hit 10 000 yes, we did,
(08:43):
we did.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
baby, let's go.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You're crushing it with real estate.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, let's be real here.
Real estate is just crushing itbecause of the context, the
sphere of influence.
Like I'm also very on edge,like I am going out for
everybody.
I am going to help your motherout, I'm going to help your
cousin out, I'm going to help mybest friends out.
So the thing is, because itcould dry up tomorrow, I could
(09:11):
have, like, once we close onproperties, you don't know who's
your next client.
It's kind of like an acting job.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's like once you finish the production, you are
not guaranteed another job soyou found me and my husband, my
family, our dream house are wetalking about?
I'm gonna just say it.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, it would take a lot for this to follow.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We're closing very soon.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We are.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Everything seems to be going well, right.
Okay, nothing to be concernedabout here.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So I already ordered my chickens.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh my, what Wait what ?
I ordered chickens online.
How do you order?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
chickens.
I went to a hatchery it'scalled Myers Hatchery and I just
ordered them, so they're goingto be shipped to me when they
hatch.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I am so excited guys.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm going to start with like the homesteading life
that I've been wanting to doforever.
I want to grow my ownvegetables, some berries, apple
trees, things like that that dowell up north in our climate.
I mean I wish I could growlemon trees and stuff, but let's
be real that's not going towork up north.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That'll be for the next place.
That'll be for the next streamhome.
That'll be for my LA or Miamihome, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we're moving and I'm soexcited, I'm so excited for you.
I'm on a wait list to get goats.
I found a goat breeder, a pygmygoat, you really are going and
you don't fuck around, you'relike this is happening.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is happening this I've waited my whole life,
since the day I was born, to beable to have like farm animals
and things.
So, um, I think my goats willbe born in like june for a sec
no, I can't chill.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm no chill you have no fucking chill.
I love it, but I'm also likeI'm like nervous for you because
I'm like I'm gonna have to helpyou with all this stuff, right?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, no, no, just don't let the house fall through
, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
No, no, no, no.
We are aggressively on top ofit and you know that's the
beautiful thing about workingwith your best friends, with
your family.
You get to see the magic happenand you get to see the dream
home, like, prosper and like.
I couldn't have seen a better.
I showed you guys this placelike on Zillow, like months ago,
(11:07):
but you at the time were likeit's not enough land.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I know and I was like really hell bent on living in a
particular location that I'verecently like decided that's not
actually what I want.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, I mean, listen as much as you could be the
Wexford wife, the Wexford wifeis really not that exciting.
I mean it's cute, but it's likeyou're so close to there and
then you're also like very closeto like other things that we
won't go into detail because wedon't want to give away your
location.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I don't need any stalkers.
Been there, done that, had thatbefore, I had that before.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I had that too in new york yeah, that's some scary
shit yeah and we're not sayingthat, not that like I don't want
to sound like we're like thatwhat like full of ourselves?
The stalker thing I think wejust sometimes like we forget to
like maybe not put our addressor our cell phone number.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh hi, Casey Casey's watching.
Oh, my God, is Casey watching?
We want to get Casey in.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I know I really want to get Casey in the studio, but
she's like I don't want to talkabout my life, I'm a private
person and I'm like but you haveso many good stories, Casey, we
want you to come on.
At least give us like twominutes of your time give us
like two minutes of your time.
I know, please, casey, comeright now, before she decides to
pick up and leave.
You never know what's going onwith Casey.
(12:28):
She could be here, she could bethere, she could be in Europe,
she could be in Miami, she couldbe in New York.
It's like she's all over themap and I swear to God, it's
just the coffee I swear.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You guys, it's hard friends.
I haven't made a new friend inlike two years and I finally
made a new friend, casey, and wewon't.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
We won't say that she's moving.
Why?
Because we don't know yet.
We don't know because I thinkthat like they're still trying
to figure out, you know oh, okay, I just feel like she's, I mean
she wants to, I think so I'mlike oh please don't move.
Well, she wants your life, shewants the little kids, she wants
the homestead.
Or maybe she is a city girl,though, like that's the one
thing like you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I felt like when you met.
You were like this Tight asfuck, but then you're the farm
chick and she's the city slicker.
Every city girl needs a farmgirl, friend, bestie.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Bestie friend.
You need that, you need thatdiversity right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think you're right.
I think you're right to balanceeach other out yeah, because
I'm a city person and you're acountry girl I like.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Obviously I've never been raised in the country and I
never lived in the countrybefore, but it's something I
always wanted.
But you were a suburban chickthat was out in the country for
many, for many years you didn'teven know the city of pittsburgh
I was like shocked that youdidn't know how to get around
when I think about even mycollege, that I went to Slippery
Rock, that was kind of countryand I never realized like how
country that was until recently.
(13:50):
But that is okay, so that's myalarm to get my daughter.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh, but nope.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I don't have to get her.
My husband's home.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He's gonna go get her Because I was gonna say you
know, sometimes you don't trustanybody to pick up your daughter
, so you're always like I gottago.
And like we'll be midconversation, mid recording, and
you're like fuck, I didn't findthe person that was going to
get her, and then they're goingto be five minutes late and I'm
like Kelly, you're leaving mehanging on the fucking mic.
But hey, it's your firstborn.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I get it.
I actually don't get it, but Iwill get it, but I will get.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Have you ever heard of misophonia?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
you always bring these good terms up.
I have never heard of that Ithink I have it you have
misophonia misophonia.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think I do phonia yeah what is it so?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
are there any like guess?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
does the sound of someone like chewing food or
eating?
Does that bother you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm that guy that does it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You do it, doesn't bother me, okay, does anything
is there any sound that, likeyou hear it and it kind of like
really bothers you, it triggersyou.
Maybe you get a littleemotional or like angry.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes, my babysitter growing up, for all intents and
purposes the one that kind oflike scarred us.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
She would always make these noises Like when she
would get up off the couch.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
it was just annoying she'd get like, oh, like it's
hard to get up like it was likeannoying and I don't know what
it was like a high pitch, likeIs this real?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, that's so strange .
Speaker 1 (15:13):
God rest her.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And she's not with us anymore.
Rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
God rest her.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Even though she did traumatize you as a child.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, that's another.
Well, we've talked about thatbefore.
We've covered that in laterepisodes.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, Other episodes.
Anyways, I think I have it, butlike not to spread like hate on
men, but like sometimes when aman's voice is really deep and
like loud it like pierces myears.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It like hurts.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It like hurts my ears and it makes my head feel like
it's going to explode.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like Brian's.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Even my husband, he can, I'm like do not talk to me
in that voice.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So how does it like?
Can you like mimic it, can you?
Like I can't talk that low,okay, I can't talk that low,
okay, but it's just like Iprobably can't either.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
See, that's a little low for me.
You're getting a little low.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Really yes, so you would rather.
I like your tone.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Your tone is fine.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, I got a little high pitched vibe to it.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So but if you went like lower it's.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I just can't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And asked chat gpt.
I was like what the fuck is,what is this?
And they're like you need tolike chat gpt was like you need
to seek help, like I need totalk to somebody and get help
with this because, like I thinkI do, because I I get just very
enraged and no hate.
No hate on men, like not with alow voice, like please, no hate
, it's just, I mean I can't Ihave the I would, so I would be
actually more aroused and turnedon by really I think some
(16:38):
people are but for me it enragesme.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm like shut up, stop talking like I can't, I
can't listen to it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I see I I can't even imagine not being like oh,
that's kind of hot well, I meanthink of it this way like some
girls have like really highpitched voices that's too much
for me, but I also likeappreciate it because it's so
like.
It's like wow, like mesmerizingI, I appreciate like a female
voice.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, um, but I watched that new uh amy schumer
movie kind of kind of pregnantand it was so good, hilarious
she, I swear she's gettingfunnier and funnier with each
movie.
So did you think it was tooslapstick, like, like, was it
like her though.
It is her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I thought I was laughing outloud it was so pathetic to like
(17:26):
fake a pregnancy, but I thinkit made some like real
vulnerable points because likereal vulnerable points, because
like I have like friends in lathat have like been really
trying hard to get pregnant andlike it has been so stressing
them out, and I think,unfortunately, like that was
very funny and I guess that gaveshed some light on.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, absolutely like.
Did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
yeah, yes but to go back to the movie, we'll go back
to the funny parts no, I thinkthe message was great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but also likekind of psychotic, like that
she faked it hers.
Yeah, yeah, like her characterwas definitely psychotic, but or
maybe just like a real honest,vulnerable person that just got
(18:09):
jelly, you know yeah I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It is kind of fucking weird like how, like I love
that the other comedian, thelike counselor in the movie that
was like you need to seek helpyes, you are so fucking
ridiculous that you're likefaking this fake baby bump yeah,
no, but she, well, I wouldn'tdo that, but there was a quote
that kind of, or like part ofthe movie that kind of was like
(18:34):
oh yeah, that makes sense.
Like they said that like women,like how many birth stories
have you heard?
And like we eternalize thislike crazy traumatic experience
and we just like never talkabout it again, right, and it's
like.
It's like do you even know,like how you were born?
(18:54):
Do you know your birth story?
no like we just don't.
People don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean they talk about the good part.
Yeah, like that, my, the guy,that the, the, what is it called
?
The, the doctor that has you?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
yeah he.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
His birthday was my birthday oh really and it was
his 70th birthday, so he had tolike expedite this process
because I got a big 70thbirthday.
Oh my gosh and so his name wasalbert.
But anyways, other than that,they didn't talk about the
fucked up shit.
Yeah, and like they justglamorize it, right?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
yes, you were the first person who told me I know
and I've never shared it, so I'mjust gonna share it today since
yeah, be honest I.
I mean, if this isn't what youwant to hear, sorry, but I'm
going to tell you everythingthat happened and I'm going to
summarize it, though.
So I was in labor for a verylong time like the first with
the first.
Yeah, it was like 18 hours oflike.
(19:44):
Oh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I know there's but that's probably normal right I
think for a first time likedefinitely it takes.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They normally don't just like slide on out of the
first time?
Well, yeah, because it's sotight sure, so my I was not
dilating, so basically, you havea cervix in there and it's
supposed to dilate so that thebaby can come out, and mine just
was like not, they had toinduce me.
I was over 40 weeks and so 40 islike nine months and some
(20:16):
change yeah, I was like 40 weeksand four days and they gave me
pitocin, which is supposed toit's like a hormone and it's
supposed to put you into labor,and it just was.
I was getting contractions butI was not dilating.
Um, so I'm just like push, likefinally I was dilated after
using a peanut ball.
I had to lay on my side withlike this ball between my legs
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and like for some reason thatworked I felt like I had to take
a shit.
I was like I think I have topoop and I'd already had an
epidural so I couldn't walk.
And then they checked me and itwasn't that I had to poop, it
was the baby's head was startingto crown right oh my god, and
it was just like a reallybizarre did ryan or did your
husband get to see it?
He watched the whole thing.
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He's.
I'm surprised he'll even touchme now I would.
I would be traumatized fromlike what he saw but anyways,
I'm pushing, and pushing,pushing.
There was no progress and Irefused to c-section like an
idiot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
They're trying to tell me like why did you not do?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I just was like I didn't want the scar and I was
like it was really like no, likeI'm, I was on a.
I was like I'm a woman and I'mgoing to do this like a woman
and I'm gonna push this out ofmy like vagina like I'm supposed
to like.
It was like this I.
It's not a good way of thinkingand you had the drugs obviously
I had.
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I did have the pitot.
Yes, I had the um epidural,which I didn't think I was going
to do that either, but holyshit, it hurt so bad I had to.
Anyways, they had to cut me allthe way, like to my asshole,
like from coochie to asshole ohmy god, coochie to ass, yeah yep
, I all the way.
Fourth degree there's a fourthdegree tear and I tore up
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internally as well, oh my god.
And then they had to suck herout.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That's the shit that you don't hear, yeah then they
had like a suction cup.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
They just suck her out too and like basically
they're like you're really luckythat was the hardest delivery
like that we've had.
My, my doctor had been agynecologist for like 30 plus
years.
He's like don't ever do thisnaturally again.
Like you need a C-section nexttime.
He was like very serious.
He's like you know, I guesswe're lucky we don't have to
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break her shoulder or anythingto get her out.
So my pubic bone just likecomes down a little bit further,
so like there's just not, therewasn't as much space to come
out.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like you do I mean not to like say anybody like
doesn't have a perfect.
I think it's just like you.
I cannot believe how big yourbelly got because you were so
like little petite and you stillare, but it's just like I can
imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like your frame.
I ain't cute when I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, I turn into a tomato well, it's like crazy,
because I think it makes sense,because, like, when you are
without a baby, yeah, and evennow, like you're just so little,
like you don't have those, likeoh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm just so little.
I'm like, I'm like a littlefeather I'm going to blow away
guys.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, like you remember, like us in cross
country, runners are a little.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm going to tell my second birth story.
It's two seconds long.
So I go in with contractionsand his heart rate was dropping
and it was uh emergencyc-section.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Emergency c-section he's fine, you never told me
that.
Yes, I did, did I not did afterlike years later.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But okay, yeah, why would you not?
But those are my two birthstories and I want you to share
yours below or tell me how youwere born everyone has some
crazy stories on how they wereborn.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Ask your mom.
Yeah, ask your mom how you wereborn.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yes, I'm gonna ask her tonight yeah I'm gonna call
her tomorrow I feel like we liketalking about like it because
it is suppressed.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It is so suppressed I literally feel like talking
about birth yes, and I thinkeven from that movie, kind of
pregnant, it did bring like alot of like wow, like nobody
talks about the hard shit ornobody talks about the bad parts
, I mean you do when it's likefatal or very like yes, oh god,
we never want to hear that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, that was yeah, oh , and, like I know, I'm just
running my mouth right now butthis is an update so we did like
a q a on instagram.
And so people shared somestories and I did want to share
that I got a frying pan forValentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, wait.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Remember, I said I was going to amputate you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Is it a nice one?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's a cast iron frying pan.
In his defense, I did ask forone.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But you guys tell me.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
is that Valentine's Day appropriate?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, I'm like, are you kidding me?
I love my boy, but like Afucking frying pan.
He's my boy, but, like I'll betalking about this later, he's
like it's expensive, I'll behaving a problem.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm like how much was it?
He's like it was $200.
Wanted the meat.
Yeah yeah, he likes to cook hissteaks on there, so it's not a
valentine's day bullshit.
So I went and I dropped like acouple hundred hundred on like
new shoes, new kicks guys.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I went and I got some new kicks.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I was like, I'm just gonna do what I want.
I like them do you like them?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
those are cool I do like them.
I saw them and I was like damnthey look, I got some other ones
too.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So, anyways, I got my way anyways, oh, and.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm getting a new house.
Oh my God, don't act so,fucking cocky girl.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I need to shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I love it.
Okay, ryan, this question wecan be real with each other.
This one is for you.
So it says for someone who'ssober, curious, what tips would
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you give them to enjoy a nightout without feeling pressured to
drink?
Super curious, what are yourtips?
Um, to not feel pressured.
Not feel pressured, okay.
So I recently went out with abunch of drinkers and there was
a lot of like, discrepancy, likewhy don't you not drink?
Like not a judgment place, butI could tell that it was like is
this going to work?
Like, are we going to like, arewe going to vibe well tonight,
like all four of us?
And I think it's just having,truthfully, my mission behind
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the podcast and the messagebehind it is for people like me
who don't have necessarily likea problem of relapsing or are
not in a program, but I woulddefinitely be open to going to
AA as a program to supportmyself and others.
But I just need a mocktail, Ineed a non-alcoholic beer, I
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need a fancy beverage, so likethat's what my tip is If you
give me a mocktail, ideally lowsugar, please, and maybe not
like $20.
But if you give me a mocktail,ideally low sugar, please, and
maybe not like 20.
But if you give me anon-alcoholic beer, like, I'm
happy, I'm with the crew okay,yeah, that's good advice right
now now there's another.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
This leads me to the next question for you what is
your favorite mocktail?
Um, I would say it's definitelylike probably amethyst or Dirty
Pelican.
But you tell me what is yourfavorite you?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
nailed it, it's a combination of the two.
I like the Lemon Serrano,Amethyst non-alcoholic botanical
spirit Shout out to Amethystand our girl Jane Harmon.
And then we also love Brian andhis wifey at Dirty Pelican
Mixers.
So this is not just to likepromote their brands, because
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we're getting a promo code togive to you guys.
We don't get compensated justby, like you know, giving and
sharing this.
I love the jalapeno spicymargarita from Dirty Pelican Mix
it with the lemon serrano.
It is my favorite chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Those two brands do have the best flavors.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We have tried so many we've tried so many different
ones and those two hands downare the best flavors and
personally the amethyst.
I like to drink it on rocks oh,it's so good, it gives you a
little kick, yeah, and itactually tastes good, guys.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's not like that nasty fake liquor that tastes
like shit.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
We've had that shit before.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, this actually tastes, it's quality amazing and
it gives you that bite I loveit.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And then dirty pelican mixers I mean for and
skinny too.
So good, yeah, they're skinnyand they're healthy, they're.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think they're organic too I know I need to get
my facts.
You know you gotta get yourfacts straight, baby so here's
an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What do you both, what do you both navigate?
Oh sorry, how do you bothnavigate friendships when one
person is sober and the otherdrinks?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
oh, for both of us yeah okay.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I did at first, like my first couple months of
being sober, I was having a hardtime, like being on fun times
with you, because I saw youhaving so much more fun than me
and so I was like, oh god, youdidn't know you didn't like
intentionally do it, it's justlike part of the process, I
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think.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
In some way, I think I just kind of needed to accept
that, like you're gonna stillhave a good time, like you have
to like your mindset.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I never pressured him guys.
You cannot be pressuring yourfriends to drink just because it
might fit your agenda.
I truly didn't care To me, Ithought you were just as fun
with or without it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you think that everybody feels that way?
That is, in our posse, in ourcircle, in our crew?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, I do know that there's some people that made
you feel, yeah, you know likethey wanted the old ryan, that
like, because, trust me, if youthink he's crazy now, he is
batshit crazy when he drinks andmaybe maybe we don't want that
guys I don't think that's justtoo much, because you know
you're 34 years old I know Icould look like you know like I
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did before whenever I was nocome on.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You always look great I don't know I was getting a
big old pumpkin face from eatingand drinking and fucking take
out, and I think the thing itwas a slippery slope because
like then I was adding the potand then I was adding the drinks
and then I was adding the foodand then I was like, oh, I'm not
gonna work out tomorrow right,that's the one thing that'll get
me sometimes like, if I drink,I don't, I totally don't want to
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work out the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Um, but you gotta just do it anyways.
It makes you not want to drinkthen that day.
I know anyways, okay, what is afun, sober activity that you
recommend?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think the best one is something very simple is go
uh bowling I was going to saygolf I was going to say golf,
but bowling is so much fun youcould like have a blast if
there's good music on, likepeople can be drinking or you
can be not drinking.
I mean, what are your thoughts?
What's a good fun sober?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean any exercise cause.
Please don't be drinking whenyou're exercising.
You're going to hurt yourself,um, but I, I mean, I love just
hiking and things like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think hiking is really likenice to be out in nature and
just not like I've been so inthe gym.
And orange theory, like fitnessclasses, like sometimes we
forget to just go for a walkoutside or a run.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, Cause I will say this I don't want to replace
one you know problem withanother problem per se.
So like I would say likeshopping or something, but then
that, then that could get out ofhand and, before you know it,
you're spending too much money.
So I I do, like you know, thethings that are free, or, like
you know, not gonna break yourbank, like bowling.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, I know well, I think, oh, yeah, it is, it is um
, but I do think, even like thatreminds me I didn't even pay
for the bowling, so I gotta findout like, oh, and I'm the sober
one at this bowling alley withthe group of friends that I kind
of was having a great time with, not kinda.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Was that here or in New York?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That was in Pittsburgh, and this was this
past weekend and it was so muchfun, but I was the one that
forgot to take my shoes back.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I literally walked out of the place with the
bowling shoes, so you were likethe next bar.
Yeah, I was on another level.
I was the drunk one, sober.
Yeah, I was the fucked up one,yeah, um, okay, so this one's
good as an ex duo, exes duo.
What's the most surprisingthing you've learned about each
other since the breakup?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
an ex-duo I.
I didn't realize we were anex-duo, but oh, because you know
what somebody said yeah,exactly, I mean, I still kind of
forget that we dated you knowwhat?
What was the last time?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
when we were dating was it in freshman year.
It was in high school, guys umwell, yeah was it freshman year,
kind of in college.
Was it sophomore?
Oh yeah, it was kind of incollege.
Yeah, we'll call it a littlelike wing thing I, when I was
dating you, you really did makeme feel like I was like the
hottest bitch around oh, no shit.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So I like that.
I didn't realize that I saidthat what, what, what do you
think I did like?
What did I do to make you feelthat way?
you're just so like lots ofwords touchy and words of
affirmation um, that's good toknow, yeah, so I think whenever,
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um that thing, I rememberwhenever we broke up at
confirmation camp oh my gosh, wegot in trouble my mom was like
I'll never forget.
Kelly was like mrs frankovsky,can I like talk to ryan?
I think we need a little bitmore time and like it was just
like I don't know what we weredoing.
Were we like being like likeflirty in the woods?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
we were being flirty, so we got separated at church
camp and I mean, they put on awhole skit, they put on a skit.
Then the counselors put on askit for the camp yes about like
how not to act like aroundjesus or whatever, yeah it was
like a whole skit and it wasbecause of us and everybody
there knew it was because of usand it was so embarrassing I
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know, and they were almost likemaking us feel bad about it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, they definitely shamed us like they totally
slut, shamed me totally and youI know and I I just thought to
myself we were getting likeeverybody else like shit on us
because they were like we haveto sit through this shit now.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, like all the activities, we could have
been having a good time.
I think lunch got delayed.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
People were a little hangry, just two flirts and
church camp, you know yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, maybe don't do co-ed church camp.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was probably the problem.
I mean, that's why catholicschools, you know, keep them
segregated.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Keep the girls in one school and the boys in another.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'll never forget that that was great.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, what percentage of couples are lying about
wanting to be monogamous?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think 50 or 60 yeah , 60, I think I do feel like now
that I'm kind of like I I don'tknow like kind of like dating
around, like having like thesefeelings, like these, like these
butterfly effects.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, now that you mention it, I'm going to.
I got some questions for you,okay, so I'm getting a little
bit, do you want?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
me to answer it.
Yeah, well, I mean oh, Ithought you said 50%, Sorry oh
so oh, I guess I no you said 50%, Sorry oh so, oh, I guess I um
50% of couples, I think I thinkit might be 55 to 60% couples
that do not want to bemonogamous.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
And I guess you gathered this.
You gather this because of whydo you think that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I just think, as humans, like we want to like
have the partner.
It's like we want to be like belike, you know, in this like
courtship, this, like thisprivate, like relationship that
nobody can come in, and likefeel jealous or insecure and
like you want to feel safe inthis like partnership.
(35:35):
But then after a while, likemost humans, it's like okay,
you're not gonna want to eat thesame thing every day, you're,
you're want to get a little bitof variety, and that goes with
like just human beingsthroughout life.
Like I'm not saying like youcan't be in a monogamous
relationship.
I just think eventually youstart to like be like okay,
(35:55):
should we try a threesome?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
okay, you're thinking 55 to 60 percent start to think
this way yeah, yeah, you'reprobably right.
I mean, as a female, I've hadnever I'll never say who, but
I've had, you know, people'shusbands um, make me feel a bit
uncomfortable before in a goodway, or about oh in a way that
they, like, definitely want toyeah like they would cheat.
(36:19):
I know like they, I, they would?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
they totally would.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like it's an
uncomfortable position to be in,but it's like you see it all
the time as a woman, as just awoman and even you probably see
that oh yeah, like I mean I feelbad for like this couple.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
They've been together forever and like you could tell
that they just with thechildren, they're making it like
work, they're doing the bestthing for the kids.
But you could tell they bothlike individually said to me,
like having kids is tough.
They were like I would love tolike have a hall pass, I would
love to like go on a trip andlike just get my rocks off if
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your relationship is strugglinglike don't, don't have.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Don't add kids to the mix.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It makes it so much harder.
If there's already cracks,don't add kids, but sometimes
the kids add the.
They work it out.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Sometimes it depends on the people, but anyways, I'm
starting to get confused because, well, first of all, you
haven't been as accessible,because you're always with
somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And I thought, oh, like I was trying to give you
your privacy, but like I'mhearing too many different names
now, and what is going on withyour dating life?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I just think it's never been like more fun, and I
think a lot to do with likesobriety and knowing like 34.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And give the background how you had planned
to be single for.
For two years, and I definitelyam it's been a year and two
months and you are definitelydating now.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I mean, dating is a loose term and I think it's
always good to interview beforeyou date.
Yes, I think there's aninterview process.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
If you're not official Even me, I'm fucking
crazy you can.
There's an interview process.
If you're not, even me, I'mfucking crazy.
So like 10 people at once ifyou're not official with
somebody.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's fine, it's totally fine okay, non-official,
yes, allows for people.
I mean, this is a thing.
Do you tell the others that?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
like no, hey, yeah, no, because well, here's the
thing you don't just you don'tjust say like go on one date and
say, oh my gosh, we're officialnow and we're like boyfriend
and girlfriend.
It takes a while.
You have to get to knowsomebody before you decide to be
boyfriend and girlfriend, and Ithink people forget that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Or boyfriend and boyfriend, or girlfriend and
girlfriend.
Yes, stupid me.
Oh, my God, you're so hetero.
I'm speaking from personalexperience.
Okay, okay, yeah, experience.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yes, thank you for calling me out, though.
So how's the dating going then?
I mean, it is so much fun.
It's giddy for like a couple ofdifferent reasons.
I see that you've been giddy,I've been giddy as fuck.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
But see the thing, I wanted to focus on work and I
wanted to like stay like on thegrind, but then it's just like I
guess I kind of forgot how goodit feels to have the butterfly
effect.
And I said this last time onValentine's Day.
I didn't even have a Valentine,which is totally fine, because
I think I didn't want to put allmy like, I didn't want to put
(39:13):
the pressure on anyone or myself, because then you have to
really like Valentine's Day canbe a little bit like solid, like
it can solidify it, I know.
Right, yeah, it can so like ifyou're dating a couple people.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So did that person ever come visit you for
Valentine's Day?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
No, and then get this fast forward.
I'm like just always havingsomebody that I connected with a
year ago and been back andforth, back and forth, but
nothing, like you know, I thinkI might've talked to you about
this person and then just likeall of a sudden like 180, like
just woo, like what the fuckLike?
(39:52):
But see, I'm wondering, is thisa thing where I'm in the
driver's seat and I'm ready totake the next step with whoever
it may be, if it's one or theother, I think you're firing up
your engines.
I'm firing up, I'm getting mymojo back.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I don't think you're ready as your friend.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I don't think you're ready.
No, no, no, no, but it isexciting.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think you just had a really good month with as a
real estate agent.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yes, Getting a little cocky.
It starts off slow, as you said.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well, it starts off slow, and now things are
happening for you, and not onlythat.
You've been getting a lot ofdeals with like commercials and
the modeling agency and I'm soproud of you.
Congrats.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Thank you.
And everything's taken off foryou right now.
Well, I think I'm just like I'mnot saying no to anything.
I'm saying yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And I'm also able to commit.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I think it's because that you think about it
Like.
I don't have children, I'm notin a serious relationship.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
But I think you you can kind of understand this too.
Yeah, your time.
You would have like triple theamount of time if you didn't
have a husband and didn't havechildren.
If you didn't have a husbandand didn't have children, yes,
you would have so much free time.
So whenever it's like busy,busy people get things done like
people get more done, that'sthe.
That's what I was trying.
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The busier you are, the moreyou'll get done.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
The busier you are, the more you get done so much
easier to keep it rolling whenyou're already really busy yeah,
uh, if you're just sitting athome.
You just want to stay sittingat home, like a body in motion
stays in motion yes, right, yeah, it all comes down to physics
and I do remember that, like Ihave to think back to like I've
been married for 11 and a halfyears now, but before then, like
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, and even before the kids, likeme and my husband, we're always
doing something I know and likeI miss.
I miss like being that busy, butlike I couldn't do it right now
well, I think you are busy inanother way yes, I'm like
strapped down to take care.
I'm mommy now.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You're mommy times two, mama mama times three
because your hubby says mommy no, he doesn't guys, but that's uh
, that's funny these are gettingold.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
These jokes are getting I love the jokes um
comment below if you like hisjokes or if you think they are
creepy or immature, yeah, orinappropriate.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
You know, I've been known to do that, but I think,
in some ways, like I don't thinkI cannot be appropriate, I
think it's just in my dna andthat's the thing I think.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
When we started the podcast, we're like how much of
ourselves should we be?
And we kind of went crazy inthe beginning.
We were totally ourselves kindof.
And then we kind of pulled backbecause we were getting
feedback like people will saymean things and like oh yeah
gossip and drama and it washateful.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
It was kind of hateful things, yeah, or it was
just like we were like slap,getting slapped on the wrist
right, and now I think we'vecome full circle and we're like
we don't care anymore like we'rejust going to be ourselves.
So if you don't, like us, don'twatch us like please
unsubscribe if you do not like I, I mean, I really hate to like
(43:01):
be that guy, but I just don'tgive a fuck because this is like
you know something we'repassionate.
We're having fun, we're beingvulnerable.
I think in some ways, like Iknow, and you know that like we
were met meant we were meant tospread the mission of Mocktails
or Messy.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yes, yeah, we are totally here for sobriety, sober
, curious and moderation.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
And even the Messy Boozehounds as friends.
Definitely I love a MessyBoozehound as long as you don't
drive.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And as long as you don't create drama.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And please wait until at least like four or five
o'clock to like have yourcocktail.
I know Please don't start inthe morning drama and please
wait until at least like four orfive o'clock to like have your
cocktail, I know please don'tstart.
I mean what?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
about boozy brunch, though on a weekend, fine.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Every now and then every once in a while, that's
totally fine.
I have yet to do that in awhile, but somebody asked me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
they were like what's the hardest thing about being
sober?
And I'm like the hardest thingabout being sober is going back
to new york and going out andwalking the streets and being
like, oh my God, I used to go toboozy brunch there.
I used to do boozy brunch thereand it was just like that was
my highlight.
But that's kind of a sadhighlight, because then you're
like that was just like yourwhole day was drunk.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know what Things are different now for everybody,
like I'm never going to be whoI was, you know, five years ago
and it doesn't matter, Like youknow five years ago, and it
doesn't matter, like it justdoesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
It doesn't.
And just like evolving, beingbetter, being better versions of
ourselves.
Yay, 30s, mid thirties.
Well, thank you guys forlistening to mocktails or messy.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
This is Ryan Frankovsky and Kelly, ms Gorski,
and we're signing out.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Appreciate it.
Our first live Congratulationsto anybody who is celebrating
sobriety or if anybody'spracticing mindful moderation
drinking.
We want to be there for you.
Please comment below.
If you are on a mission, likeus, we greatly appreciate it.
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