All Episodes

April 23, 2026 • 50 mins

Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.

In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Erik Reppel, Head of Engineering for Coinbase's Developer Platform and the creator of x402 — the open payment protocol that just joined the Linux Foundation with Google, Stripe, Visa, Mastercard, AWS, and Cloudflare as founding members.

They unpack why Erik designed x402 to capture zero value, how "the wallet is a universal API key" that eliminates sign-up friction for a new class of non-technical builders, and what the "agentic premium" means for companies leaving money on the table with free tiers.

Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here:

https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN

Chapters

00:00 The Foundation: "phase two of three of our secret master plan"

02:03 What x402 actually does: "a standard way of telling a computer how to pay you"

03:36 The mechanism: how declaration is decoupled from the rail

06:03 Inside the stack: facilitators, SDKs, and 13 live implementations

09:09 Why agents can't be on both sides of every payment integration

16:50 The ad model is breaking — how publishers monetize agent traffic

20:38 The Claude cowork class: "the people who find x402 most valuable are not developers"

24:51 "The wallet is a universal API key"

30:44 The agentic premium: charging more per request than subscriptions

32:54 Where to build: Solana at 65% of volume and why it's hard to measure

39:59 Value creation, not value capture: why one open standard is the goal

44:41 VHS vs Betamax: simplicity as the path to critical mass

48:17 Where to find Erik and x402

Connect with the Hosts & Guest

Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com

Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz

Erik Reppel: https://x.com/programmer | https://x402.org | https://cdp.coinbase.com

About Stablecon

Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens.

About BVNK

BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.

  • Help
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of Use
  • AdChoicesAd Choices