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March 2, 2025 12 mins

Marketing isn’t all about shouting the loudest. It’s about solving the right problems the right way. 

In this snapshot episode, Bren Eifler and I break down why great copy is simply salesmanship in print, why leads from Facebook ads might be ghosting you, and how the right strategy (not just more leads) turns clicks into conversions. 

If you’ve ever wondered why some ads feel like throwing spaghetti at the wall while others bring in dream clients, this one’s for you!

Listen to the full episode here


Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/023-quality-systems-and-relationships-in-business/id1697804814?i=1000648415009 


Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zMD1iUJw4qGSkRI0xN8KD 


Watch the full episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nVleKbONqY 

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