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June 2, 2025 57 mins

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After a few weeks apart, Mike and Doug catch up on everything that's been stirring—internally and out in the world.

Mike returns from Portugal, where he wandered the streets of Lisbon, finding a party around every corner, and accidentally discovered he may be a bit of a unicorn. He shares what it’s like to travel alone for the first time, dance with couples across cultures, and say yes to a spontaneous 2:30 a.m. tattoo.

Doug returns from a California music festival, where he camped, candyflipped, and had a surprise run-in with a childhood hero. They talk about the contrast between drinking and psychedelics, how their relationship to substances is changing, and what it means to show up fully—on and off the dance floor.

The conversation touches on:

  • Letting go of needing to “know who you are” and just following what feels alive
  • The various graphs and axes of bisexuality
  • What it means to be a social (and maybe sexual) lubricant
  • The ache and joy of being open in midlife
  • Creating a new word—pleasance—for the kind of presence that invites others in



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