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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Revel.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at this now, tip top.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh do you want to us doing what we walk?
It's time to be Oh yeah, this year right here

(00:41):
is too cheesy. Welcome on in the Morning Combat Halloween addition, Biach,
you're looking at the master, the one right next to
me from DC his satanic pumpkins Majesty's request. Anton Thomas
Levey in the house.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hi, yo, I this is this is truly stupid, this
fucking show. Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'd be hot since the beginning. In fact, I grew
up looking up at barb wire. If you if you
know what I'm saying, if you know what looks like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
That's what I'm saying. Welcome one in October thirty first,
twenty twenty five. You hear them, crickets. There's two old
bitches up in this MK house. Yeah yeah, and boy

(01:32):
do we have a bang her? Wow? I just met
her this weekend in the in the warehouse. Let's go,
let's get hired up. It's Garcia ONAMA Fight Week and
Rod de Rousey was on Burnt Chrysler's podcast. So hey,
this is Morning Combat. Let's get come fly with us. LT.
How is it down there? Did you go out for
Mischief Night and throw some TV around or what.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, I took took you to like a like a
local neighborhood event last night. And then we have people
coming over today and we have trick or treating to
go to. It's gonna be uh yeah, it's some friends
some some friends as well, so it'll be all.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Right, all right. I was gonna say you you uh,
I don't think you you threw around the TP last
night at Mischief Night, but I heard this morning it
was like a men's dress shop up in your bathroom,
if you know.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was an epic as
as grandiose as Ben Her I mean, yeah, truly a
one of those moments we have to reflect quietly on
something that just happened to you of great significance.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, I hear you, I hear you. Yeah. Great movie,
Ben Her. Do you ever see Ben Hemstarr and Bruce Jenner.
That's just too cheesy, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I look forward to us being fired for cause today.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, how are you hey? It's morning Combat.
Welcome in. You could probably like the show. It would
probably go a long way. Subscribe shout out to the YouTubers,
the Afkings, Network watchers, and you divorced Dad's grocery shopping
listening to audio only. This is the show. This is
the show that people still care about six plus years later. Okay,
because we be jamming, we'd be real up in this beach.

(03:14):
H this is gonna be a show today. We're gonna
do some fun stuff. Look at the news that is
also play a little bit of chastois with LT if
you know what I'm saying. All Right, okay, two guys,
one show, one one segment, Let's see what happens there,
and then close with your fan segments, your your dead wrongs,
your your fan subs and all that bullshit. But what

(03:35):
I want to say right off the top, though.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Have you eaten the Rby's steak nuggets yet?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
So all the rbs in my area kind of disappeared.
It's been very depressing.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I can't imagine to go out of business. What would
serving you know, rat feet and cadavers?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah? Sure, serving a certain US soccer team goalies leaked nudes.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that joke still get
over in twenty five. All right, Okay, Hey, this episode
of Morning Combat presented to you by DraftKings. Of course DraftKings.
The crown is yiggoty yours. You know what I'm saying.

(04:14):
So let's go. Here's the deal. It's October Merch season
for today, the last day of the month. Get your
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(04:35):
Joe Romero. And also you can mix and match the colors.
Put one on your ob bueila before the wake. It's
MK in the house Morningcombat Dot Shop, and we'd love
to introduce you say hello to the third member of
our team today, a producer, a director, a bong enthusiast.
He's bringing a high libido. Not from Australia, this time

(04:58):
from the UK. All right, yeah, baby, yeah yeah, let's
get ranby in here. It's a little cocino of the
main guardman.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Honestly it's not mine. But how we doing, boys?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
How we doing?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
It was a little little cringe of an intro, just
adding to the cringe here, you know, woop dee do Basil,
I'll show myself out there.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yo, look, you gotta admit this year right here is
too cheesy. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I hope both of you die.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay, right LT. Most importantly today, if I can bring
back my regular accent the tukester. You have told me
offline that she has been excited about this day for
an epic long time.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Man, Can I tell you what it is? Sok? Can
I show you something that I got for her?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah? Let me take off these glass I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Take the camera off me.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I want to show you. I mean, look at there's
the fights this weekend or some balls. You know, let's
just fucking do some fun shit. Hang on, I'll be
right back.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, people always ask me like, what what do
these represent? You know what I'm saying, this right here
is for all them balloons I've been sucking up behind
behind Urby's in near the dumpster. You know what I'm
saying right there, and this is all the women I
put to sleep Cosby style. All right, Maybe we won't
go that far. Okay, Yeah, maybe that's the reaction to
this year joke we got. Okay, thank you very much too,

(06:17):
cheesy back at it once a year. Okay, what we got?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
All right, this is my first time using you ever
used Etsy for anything? BC?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
No, I try to avoid it.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, all right, so I used Etsy for the first time.
Now I got to finish. As you can see here,
some of the glue got stuck to a piece of
paper I was using to help dry it. But I
ordered a three D printed staff for one of the
characters from K Pop Demon Hunters. My little girl's going
as one of the girls from k Pop Demon Hunters,
and I had a lady on Etsy three D print

(06:50):
her blade and staff. I had to use tape to
hold this part together because it's three D printed. But
it's like it's real loosely three D printed. But I
glued everything else together and sung it all together, and
I had to put the blade together in pieces, and
then I had to mount it in here. Uh what
do you think looks pretty fucking cool?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Huh? Yeah? That does? I love when you like the
late Kobe b just hashtag girl dadding up in that.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Luke.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Okay, so she's like super excited. Will you inspect all
of her chocolate for pinholes?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Luke, pinholes all inspected by swallowing it.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Hold on, I gotta let the cat in.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You know, it's that kind of a show. Anyway, My
little girl is going as Mira from K Pop Demon Hunter.
So for any dads or moms out there, I mean,
there's no moms watching this. Let's be really so for
all the dads out there, uh, you probably know what
that is. There's a lot of girls going as Mira,
some are going as Zoe, some are going as who
is the other one? You guys don't know who the

(07:45):
other one is?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Tamera.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
You guys don't know shit about that too. That show
is like crazy popular about that. Hey, fuck you man,
they put that back in movie theaters. It was so big,
all right, all right, it's the most selling costume this
year and like Halloween Spirit and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Now, what's the hook on this Demon Hunter show?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is it like about good guys or is it about
some dark shiit?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
No, it's well sort of. It's the basic idea is
that it's a totally accidental hit that Netflix didn't know
they had. They put it out and it blew up
and they never thought it would. It's a case.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It reminds me of showtime in morning combat.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's it's a uh, it's a it's a cartoon K
pop musical is the best way I would put it.
And they kill demons in it. So it gets a
little dark in certain times. But no, it's you know,
it's it's for little girls.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
All right, all right?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Like Reggie's back, yo, yo, How long before we got
to take that cat to this final resting place? You
know what I'm saying. It's a good time.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
You know. Unfortunately a lot of people in this house
have been saying that lately. This guy's got a bad reputation.
He's earned it, you know what I'm saying. Like almost
eight now seven.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You might remember this Barbis got sick and I had
to take him to the emergency room one year ago today, Wow,
And remember they pulled him out of heart failure. He
lasted until January and then he ultimately died in January.
But this was the day I couldn't go trig or
treating last year because Barbis had to be rushed to
the er and then I had to basically pay for

(09:20):
a new car to save his life and he only
lived three more months. So was it worth it? I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Wow, one of our darker episodes to begin. But it's
time to transition here directly into the program with topic
number one. Hey, somebody's going to see it this weekend
in the warehouse down in Vegas. It's APEX time. It's
UFC Fight Night, featherweight fisticuffs on the line. When a
red hot Steve Garcia brings a six fight win streak

(09:50):
including five KOs into about against four fight wind streaking
in six and one overall. David Onama and this road
to UFC Fight Night Vegas and the Fight Night Preview
brought to you, of course by Total Wireless, the official
wireless provider of the UFC. Get the otherlimited data that
won't slow you down. So, Luke Thomas, we're gonna be

(10:14):
fair hair on the good side. Right on the good side.
The featherweight division has turned over. We're looking for fresh blood.
Holloway out top, Tardia out Vulk back on top for
now with this battle between number twelve and thirteen in
that one four or five division with exciting styles could
conceivably produce a new contender. But that's not necessarily what

(10:39):
I'm asking you about, because that's the good. The bad
is we've asked this question before, but this time I
wonder if we mean it LT be honest with me.
We're all gonna watch at least the main event anyway,
But is this as bad as it gets in the warehouse?
Is this the worst APEX Fight Night card we have
had to date or what?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's a great question question. I was talking about this
before the show with Lil here, and this is kind
of where I'm at. I'd be curious to get where
you're at. I mean, we're kind of out of place
now where we have to ask a question, which is
you know, if you're looking at all of the various
tiers of products that you get from UFC, and that
includes everything, right, so that would be Ultimate Fighter, that

(11:21):
would be Contender series, wrote to UFC Asia, you name
it all the way on up to let's call it
Apex shows, then fight nights on the road, and then
ultimately you get to numbered shows that I guess we're
going to start calling those pls or whatever. So these
are your tiers. If you think about what this is,
which is you know, it's an APEX card, it's a

(11:43):
formal UFC events. In other words, it's not Contender Series.
It's not one of these tournament shows where people are
vying for a spot. They've got a spot now they're
inside the organization, but once you're there, this is the
lowest kind of tier of product that the UFC puts
out right. I mean, and I'm not even saying this
in an insulting way. I'm asking, like, what, how would

(12:07):
the UFC meaningfully have a product that had, you know,
less the premiere end of their product on it than
something like this. Yes, they could actually go through BC
and like, you know, engineer the most meaningless matchups if
they wanted to or something like that. But that's not
what I'm talking about. I'm saying, as the product normally

(12:27):
functions right under its the way in which it's been
designed and the way it gets turned out to the
public inside the UFC tiers. What I'm saying is not
that I'm not even saying that there. It's the same
time every It's the same story every card BC, which
is that could there be some fun fights on this card? Yep,
yes of course there could. Right, I go to Regional MMA,
I don't know what I'm going to get there. Sometimes

(12:47):
they're good, sometimes they're bad. It's a similar kind of idea.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is, given
the suite of products that the UFC delivers inside formal
UFC events them elves, I just think naturally this is
the kind of lowest tier of product that they make,
and your interest in that obviously, and everyone else is

(13:11):
you know, going to vary.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Are you trying to say that this is Calvio versus
I tier?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this is the kind
it's a weird kind of conversation, right because it's a
question of It's not that the question of are the
fights potentially good irrelevant? That's of course a relevant question,
but it kind of obscures what the more important question is,

(13:38):
which is okay, but I thought this was supposed to
be the premier end of the product, the premier end
of the sport. It is not the premiere end of
the sport. In fact, given the tiers that they have
within the UFC itself, it's the furthest away from their
premier end. And I think that's the point to kind
of raise here. And again, everyone has a choice. You
want to watch it? Do you not want to watch it?

(13:58):
Are there going to be good highlights? You know we'll
be talking about it regardless. I just think we have
to be honest about inside the kingdom of classification, where
would you put this? And and I challenge My challenge
would be, I don't know where you would put this
within the suite of UFC products, but at the bottom
end of the tier, just given everything else that they

(14:19):
can do.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm with you largely.
It wasn't disappointing to see it felt like this one
along with the next Fight Night main event, which has
a bone Feme in it and is a similar level
of I don't want to say, who are that guys,
but you know, just not having those couple huge names
to grab you that. Hopefully this is sort of the
tail end of the ESPN era and then we kick

(14:42):
some absolute buttocks heading into the CBS Paramount one right.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Now, Yeah, obviously that plays a role too, right, Like,
this is the end of the deal if my math
is right. And I've been saying this for a while
before they formally announced it. The last event in the
ESPN era is an APEX card, you know, I mean,
I don't think they're going to be phoning it in
at all. When January starts BC. Right, I mean, all

(15:06):
indications is going to be launched like a rocket. But
they might be doing a little bit of that now.
I mean, I don't think that's the most unfair thing
to say.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Now, I'm with you on that. By the way, your
your pumpkin mask on top of your head looks like
a shriner's cap when you're looking straight on or did you?
Did you? Are you gonna wear that to your Masonic
Lodge Halloween party time? Luke?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, I'm not gonna wear this to the Masonic Lodge.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
What No, Yeah, we'll just let it hit the floor. Uh, Luke?
Are you impressed?

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Though?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
When we're talking about Steve Garcia, who gets sort of
a side treatment here and maybe if you want to
compare the two, has the brighter upside at the moment
here at featherweight as we are looking for new heroes
at one forty five, how about this statistic that the
folks at CBS Sports drug up Garcia has the largest
significant strike differential at plus three seven five in UFC

(16:00):
featherweight history, which is better than Volk, better than McGregor,
better than Holloway. Does that mean he just hasn't faced
the top level yet or does that mean this is
looking like a striker who's ready for the top tier
of what we got at featherweight.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Read that stat to me one more time.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Garcia has the largest significant strike differential in UFC featherweight
history at plus three point seventy five.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I don't see how that's possible because David Onama has
a better one. Oh no, excuse me, I'm reading the
wrong stat. You're right, that is correct. Yes, strikes landed
per minute five point one to eight strikes absorbed two
point two. Yeah, dude, Steve's listen. He started his career
very mediocre. And when I say career, I mean obviously.
UFC gets a win a contender series, then loses to

(16:50):
violent Bob Ross Luis Pana, who's not even in the
organization anymore, comes back, gets a win against Charlie on
Tavero's that's nice, gets it inside, but then loses his
next one to Mahershate. Now since then BC so now
we're in firmly twenty twenty two, the end of twenty
twenty two. In fact, October twenty nine, twenty twenty two,
that's when everything began to turn with a Chase Hooper
stoppage and then set him on this incredible win streak

(17:12):
that he's been on, which has culminated obviously with the
Calvin Cater win. And it wasn't just a great Calvin
Cator WINBC. He clearly won that one. He got struck
him nearly four to one. He dropped him in the third.
I mean he held Cater to under thirty significant strikes
total in the entire bout, like he put it on him.
And what's kind of interesting, BC is and this kind
of gets lost a little bit, you know. Listen, I

(17:34):
remember the days when Jackson Wink had a ranked fighter
on virtually every single UFC card and then multiple champions,
Like it was the it was a factory of the
highest end product that the sport could produce from an
MMA gym. I mean, Saint Pierre was there, Nick Warr,
Mark Wharr excuse me, you know, Rashad and Keith Jardine

(17:56):
and like I could just go on and on and on.
It was just bonkers what they can do. And it
hasn't been that way for quite some time. Jim's go
through ups and downs, and not everyone can ride the
highlight of the highwave for so long but I'm just
trying to point out here he comes back, or I
should say, I know there's Aaron Pico out there, but
Garcia has been a kind of a Day one Jackson guy.
You know, it's nice to see Jackson's have a guy

(18:18):
who can return to glory. He's earned it the hard way.
Kyle Nelson win was great. There are some questions about
him hitting the back of the head in that fight
and other ones as well, but nevertheless, we see the
point you raise is is there a reason to be
excited about Steve Garcia. My only answer to that would be,
like just looking at the resume, no question about it.
But he is thirty three, so he's not Like I'm
not saying he's done. In fact, look what he's doing

(18:41):
his career best work. What I am saying is he's
finally making a run after the age of thirty two.
And then that gives me some pause about what the
ultimate upside could could ultimately be.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, fourteen knockouts in eighteen career wins for Garcia, seven
in the first round, and you talked about the turnaround.
The streak that he's on started with Chase Hooper and
then with Calvin cater, so we're getting somewhere. He deserves
to be here. And if this is an introduction of
sorts to the non hardcore fan in this main event

(19:13):
on Saturday, then I have to say I like the
way Steve Garcia has carried himself this week, including throwing
out a couple of shots at the champ and he's inactivity.
Let's listen to Steve Garcia going hard in the paint
on Volkanovski.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
The way everything kind of went down, I was kind
of hoping for something a little bit further ahead, you
know what I mean. It's not it's not a hit
on him. It's just, you know, you want to advance
your career. It's about you, you know what I mean.
And that's how the spot operates. But also Volkes too
busy cooking, you know what I mean, So he's holding

(19:47):
everybody up at the top, so he just needs to
make a decision. Just pick somebody, I don't know, just
pull it out of a hat somebody right, because they're
all waiting get the division going again, you know what
I mean. So at the top, you know, I feel
like we can still fight, So that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Luke though that wasn't close enough for shots fired. But
I like that he's taken a few jabs at the
champ get get his attention a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I mean, these are two guys that are making their
way in the UFC without making waves, and as you
can see, that is in some ways good and bad.
It's good in the sense that you're not constantly mired
in these these crazy controversies for you know, outrageous behavior

(20:34):
alas at the same time, you see that is a
very great way to get the kind of ford momentum
in your career in this business that you sometimes need.
This was not so crazy, This was not particularly outrageous,
but to the point you raised finally banging the pots
and pans, as I like to say, go.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
On, Lars Ulrich on the San Anger recordings. You know
what I'm saying. What I wanted to ask you related
to this title picture is I think we all would
have assumed that Volk versus either Laren Murphy or most
sar If Loyev would have been announced by now It's
not What is the hold up? Is it the cooking
show on YouTube Luke to the great success and clicks

(21:11):
or what do we got going on here.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I think they want to save him for Australia, right
They haven't. They haven't announced anything even starting in the
paramount era at all. So yeah, I just think we're
an ob you know, Listen, the most important way to
understand the UFC product is simply to understand that the
calendar needs come first and then everything else second. You know.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
All right, Well, we've got those two names at the
top here, we've got some second level guys like Al
Joe trying to get back on top usef Zilal Arnold
Allen if he can get back in there, still top level.
But after that there are a lot of retreads in
the mix, although I'm sure Lord Silvia will be heard
from them again. So big opportunity here for either man.
Let's talk a little bit more about David Onama as

(21:56):
he comes in fourteen and two record on a four
fight win streak as I met six of seven overall,
eleven stoppages and fourteen wins, six in the first round,
and Luke he comes here by way of a victory
over Giga Chikazi. Uh do you believe that he's done
enough to really make this feel like a fifty to
fifty action fight had an into Saturday.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I absolutely think so.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Onama is a fun fighter. Now he's a little bit
more blood and guts than well, it's okay in certain ways,
can be a little bit more blood and guts because
of the way which he fights. But like dude, think
about they're both south paws, They're both kind of rangy, right,
they both like to pressure forward. They both will fight
in either box kickboxing range, and that's where some of
the differences begin to emerge. But you know, they kind

(22:41):
of like to forward press the action. Now, Onama seems
to me a guy this is in this will I
think will be one of the interesting tensions b see.
Onama to me likes to press forward, but is a
little bit more selective and takes time to stakes a
little bit more time to set things up, whereas Garcia
has got a lot of combination work. So for example,
he's really good about that left high kick then when

(23:01):
he comes down throwing that left hand and then the
right hook behind it like he's just he's just applying
it all the time, and Onama seems like he's a
little bit more thoughtful about it, although his activity rate
is also pretty high too. But that can encompass a
lot of things, like you know, like sort of checking
leg kicks. What I'm trying to make is, I think
that's gonna be one of the central tensions is who

(23:21):
gets the other one to back up? Who's the one
leading with volume, who's the one, you know and not
just pressuring in a general sense, but the other person
can't get their rhythm going because they're being pressured out
of it. The interesting part to me is to what
extent Onnama might go for takedowns. And Garcia has got
prety good takedown defence, not not not the best I've
ever seen, but good, and the decent ability to get up.

(23:44):
This is gonna be This is gonna be a really
I mean, this is these two guys do a lot
of the same things. They have a similar ish kind
of frame and a kind of a sort of the
basic conditions under which they thrive are all pretty similar.
So how does somebody win that? Well, one of them
has to take that away from the other one. And
how they do that given that they are seemingly so

(24:05):
closely matched that actually mixed for is what we're talking
about earlier. Kind of an interesting tension.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, I mean, I actually, to be honest with you,
with Anti Delizia's and we'll talk about him in a
second recent rise the connection to aspinall, I was wondering
if that should have been the main event, But there
is a little bit more at stake, at least in
the short term future, and this one considering both of
these guys are ranked in the top fifteen and both
are looking to make that leap, not just into the

(24:31):
top ten, but to legitimately become a name here. So
we've got David Onama talking about what's at stake and
what's on the line for him as he climbs the rankings.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's gonna be on a fee for me.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
I don't know what he's gonna plany is, but yeah,
I think most of the time it'll be be standing,
be standing, and yeah, yeah it went over Steve Garcia.
Will put me in a top ten division for sure.
You know, get in a win over him with I
would definitely climb me up, you know, especially for a

(25:02):
main event. I guess a tough a punt it, you know,
it'll definitely put me in the top top ten.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Interesting stuff, Hey, Long Island. Luke is a huge fan
of the risers on the prelimbs because he's doing bong
rips on his podcast live during those fights to tell
you about it. To see these two graduate to this
point must be, must be good to see and hopefully
want will break through in a big way. Where do
we look at this from an odd standpoint with DraftKings
and how do you like this fight?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I mean, right now, Steve Garcia is minus one twenty
five David Oama plus one oh five, So I feel
like whatever way you're leaning, you got good value on
either side. Personally, I want to stay away from the
money line completely. I took the over one and a
half in a parlay. This is one of those fights where,
like Steve Garcia, especially, most of his fights end by knockout.
But I weirdly feel like this is going to go

(25:51):
the distance. So prediction wise, I'm calling Steve Garcia by decision,
which is kind of a wild take. But over one
and a half is my official place guard.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I see it just knocks at the door more, you
know what I mean, He's just constantly asking for an
opportunity to use offense, and it's like a Jehovah's witness, right,
I mean, you know, like the Mormons are nice people,
but they knock on the doors a lot. You know,
they got they got a story to tell. But this
is what I'm being serious like that. It's just, dude,
it's a numbers game, honestly, and I'm not saying he
throws an outrageous amount of volume, but he's always looking

(26:22):
for stuff and that honestly unlocks so many doors people
don't otherwise get to walk through.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, indeed, Luke, we got Long Island's Luke take on here.
I do like Garcia by an edge as well, So
I think the odds are spot on. What has to
happen here for Onama here to get this win? I mean,
does it behoove him to make this a war?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I think he I think something akin to what he
got with Giga Chakazi, where he was tearing apart Giga's
lead leg which made him go south Paul, so then
that part of that fight was fought that way. But
really it was three takedowns and he didn't do necessarily
a ton with them, but it obviously took the wind
out of the sales of gigas game. And I think
Steve Garcia competes with a lot of intensity, and he

(27:08):
maintains that intensity as you saw in the caterabout for example,
for fairly long periods as a consequence. And so for
that reason, I just feel like, you know, it's worth
considering just how important I think pressure is gonna be here,
but really mixing it up, mixing it up for me.

(27:30):
For Onama it is gonna be pretty crucial. He gets
hit too much for a guy that finds ways to
combine striking offense too easily for that to not be
a factor. But if he can play that game a
little bit and then bring in some of the other
talents to bear, I think that is a winning formula
for Onama. But can he execute it? We shall see.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, we're gonna have to find that out on Saturday night.
Let's talk about this cole main event. I do like it.
Waldough Corte is a coast that had a five fight
win streaking was kind of becoming an interesting option here
at heavyweight. The salsa boy himself, with his ground skills,
with his aggressiveness, he's a little bit awkward as well.
He had that streak snapped of course last fight by
Sergey Pavlovitch. But he enters a streaking Anti Delesia, former

(28:14):
PFL tournament champion, who made the incredible UFC debut with
that first round destructive knockout last time out, getting the
rub of course from training with Tom Aspinall. And we
know the brewing storyline that Uncle Dana really doesn't like
about these two. That of course Anti has eaten at
Aspinall's table. He's met his family and kids, so Tom

(28:37):
will not be fighting him no matter what. But at
thirty five walking Trouble from Croatia, Luke, you saw what
he did to Marchene Taibura last fight, who is a
a well valued gatekeeper in this division. We asked how
high the prospects were of him making a leap? Is
that him is the guy that we saw. Can he

(28:58):
continue to do that in this division against this level
of competition?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Probably a decent chance at it. Yeah, I mean to
your point, Corteza Costa had a good run up until recently,
but it was kind of fighting some diggity dulks. I mean,
the Spivac win was pretty nice, right, I mean the
other ones, you know, Ryan Span blown up a little
bit and stuff like that. I don't know what that's
supposed to mean, but ante Delia. I mean, he fell

(29:25):
short against Valentine or Valentine Moldovsky, but otherwise it's been
for the most part, more recently pretty good beating on
some of the UFC vessel in the way, smoking hending
for hand inside around, I believe. So I would actually
say that Delia has speed and ability to cover distance
and certainly experience that he has relative to a costa
A cortes A Costa is is pretty good. Cortez A Costa,

(29:48):
I don't know what you want to say. I wasn't
a big believer. And then he ran that wind streak
into the Spivak win and I was like, well, you know,
Pavlovich's kind of falling off, and here comes Corteza Costa
and then he could and get the job done. So
I was like, well, I'm not so sure anymore. I
don't think that Dahlia is that kind of a puncher
and that do you think that makes a difference. But

(30:08):
at heavyweight they're all pretty big punchers, and he's a
reasonably fast one. Yeah, I would say that is a
good case to think Delia can get this done here
and even further.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, Dlia likes to bang and not call you back, Luke.
He doesn't care how old you are. But to talk
about the heavyweight, Dahlia, I have to agree with what
you're saying right there. Good run from Waldough, but this
feels like another setup to find out at thirty five?
Are you that guy that you look like in the
first fight against Toabura? Quickly Long Island?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Though?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
What are were for odds on this one?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
I was so thrown off by that chryst Delia joke.
I was just laughing so hard.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh God, is that what you made? I didn't understand
what you were saying. Did you make a crystal?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
He said he'll bang them no matter what the age
is or something. Dalia minus won thirty cortez a Costa
plus one to ten.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Okay, I mean that's almost closer than I think it
should be. Wow, Sorry, that was too cheesy. Okay, that's
who you gotta, that's who you can send your your
letters to a morning combat.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I honestly, you go in one ear and out the other.
I wasn't listening to a fucking word you were saying.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
That.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, that that normally shows through and as the show progresses,
just so you know. But uh, but Luke seriously here,
I like Waldough, but I feel like if Anti really
is knocking on that door potentially in a in a
shallow division of maybe becoming a thing at heavyweight, right,
Pavlovich is kind of still a thing. Volkov blades lingering.
We need more things in this division at this moment.

(31:40):
Whether it's Walter Walker, if he ever turns out to
be real, or he's just sniffing feet, we'll find that
out too. But Luke does does coat has a course
on your a coast on your eyes. Have the game
that can expose what what the anti de Leo Deligia
however you want to say it? Uh doesn't do well?

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Is this?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Is he a potential kryptonite and that's why you're seeing
him as just slight underdog?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah yeah? Or I think people maybe wonder did he
hit his ceiling? You know with the Pavlovich fights, like,
oh right, this this streak was not fools gold but
the buck stops here kind of situation and Delia obviously
having done so well in PFL and coming over here
and he's still getting a bit of a I'm not
sure what it means right now, but getting a bit
of an aspenall rub that sort of a thing. I

(32:25):
think all of those factors are kind of working together,
so to speak, to to put the odds where they are.
But it's you know, listen, I think it's also foolish
to count out Cortez a Coast to BC. I mean,
I mean, really suggesting that Dalia is so much better
that he's just gonna go in there and just lay
down on this guy, like he's got a Cortes the

(32:45):
Coast has a good chin, he's a little heavy, but
pretty athletic reasonably speaking, anyway, he doesn't he can take
big punches, but he's for the most part halfway decent
about getting out of the way of them. Like, this
is a very good chance this one goes the distance
because Cortes a Coast can slow it down, where Delia
could overcommit with some of these blitzes. Like, I think
it's a very very competitive fight. I just feel like

(33:06):
you're asking me, does Delia have what it takes to
beat a guy this caliber? The answers I think so.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
But yeah, competitive, I mean he's proven that. And by
the way, long Islan Luc reminding us that Cotese Coosta
was the favorite for much of this fight week until
just recently. But we do know Anti has wins over
names we know, like Jorgan de Castro, Maurice Green, Mateya Scheffel.
When he was on that nice run there in PFL,
Hen and Fajeda, we talked about how he got here,
Dennis Koitz of all that, I think he's of this ILK.

(33:34):
I'd almost rather, though, to find out how close he
is to being a legit threat. I'd almost rather him
have trouble treking wall though down and this becomes a
test of his cardio, test of a lot of things.
He's proven that at PFL before against names we just mentioned.
But right here, right now, the lights are brighter. Not everybody, unfortunately,
I'm talking about Patchi, Mix, Aaron Pico have have made

(33:55):
that transition from the other leagues to this one as
smoothly despite what our expectations were coming in. But Luke,
what do you make about the friendship here between Aspinall
and Anti. We've seen it before with DC and Cormier.
Mara b and Al Joe are our brothers for life.
They live across the street from each other. It's not

(34:15):
overly likely that a Delia will get to that point
or b Aspinall will still be there. We have no
idea what's going to become of this heavyweight division, But
what the hell like if Tom literally gives up the
bell like I'm sorry, I like Auntie Dlia a lot,
but he ain't Kane right.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like, yes, that would be madness. That would be madness.
I appreciate what they're saying to preserve their relationship and
maybe this will naturally sort itself out where we don't
have to worry about this.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
For example, it never came to it because of Saint Pierre,
cost Check and Fitch never really had to fight. There
was a lot of pressure on them to fight at
the same time when they were at AKA together. But
the reality was if if it was ever gonna happen,
and they were adamant it wouldn't. But if it was
ever to happen, it would only probably happen if one
of them had the title and the other one was
gunning for it, and they never got to that position.

(35:09):
But here, in the case of Aspinall and Dalia, not
only do you have a guy that at least for
now is the champion, but the other guy doesn't seem
that far away to me. You need to make a decision.
Either you're both. You can do the Cane and DC thing,
which is that where you just go your separate ways
to separate divisions, and that's what it has to be,
or you have to fight each other. Because this is
not Costurek and Fitch where it's not really relevant as

(35:34):
a concern for now. Anyway, it could be very relevant
if you lose this. Who cares if aspinall loses whatever,
if they keep winning, it only leads to one place
and the idea that people are just going to surrender
a title out to avoid affecting this relationship. You're in
this like you can't what a silly thing to do.

(35:56):
At the highest level of the sport. This is not
a jiu jitsu tournament where you can just close out
together and it's a win for the fucking team. Somebody
has to take it from the other guy, not just
walk away from it because we're trying to preserve something
under those circumstances or b see, preserve it. But then
you guys have to just do other things with your life.
That that's the other answer.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I mean, I said it was unlikely because both would
have to happen, you know, they would have to both
stay on top. And is it Delia or Delijia? What
the hell long outlook can you find?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I think it's.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
I really I question it too. I think it's Delia Delia.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Can you what did John Annex say in the last fight?
That really? That does? That does?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I could pull up this sound file.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Let me pull it up, all right, thank you so much.
But at the same time, Luke, I don't know how
how long John Jones or Poeton are both going to
be in this division. I don't know. You know, if
the if anyone will develop, it may end up happening.
If this dude keeps knocking out dudes. Although it's only
been one fight and that was only against the gatekeeper level,
I know a lot has to happen, but maybe it will.

(36:57):
If aspinall really is that dude, and once he gets
his vison changed, you know we're going to see a
difference there, Luke, A big time difference.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
So yeah, I mean the heavyweight division is in tatters
if this is a thing we're talking about, But yes,
this is you're right.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, DC. By the way, that ham d abdol wah
Hobb got cut for fighting.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
After after quitting his job to go full time.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, and he also we didn't give him credit. He's
got really nice pecks, Luke.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I mean, here's the thing though, not about his pecks.
He he wasn't. I did not think that he showed
enough well roundedness to merit staying on the roster.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
You got.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, Well, the thing I'm saying is like, I don't
know what the UFC's supposed to do, dude, because everybody
coming up is kind of like a version of this,
and like that's absolutely not a thing that you can
sell a division around. So they're cutting people like this
and it's like, okay, great, but like where are the
names of the guys up and coming who are a
clear antidote to this? And I'm not sure what the
answer is, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, sorry Luca and Long Island, Luke did point now
that you were correct this whole time. It's Delia, just
like Prince Andrew.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
So sorry, sorry, So I've tried to write it phonetically,
but it's Delia, Delia, Deliah. I have the sound file,
but it's M four A and we'll let me load
it in right here, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Can we hear the other sound file of anti Delhia
talking about the file songs of his teammate Tom Aspinall's
disastrous soul poke from from Cyril God. What were your
reactions to how that fight finished.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think he did a great job with not continuing,
and if more fighters do the same thing, I think
we can prevent the same thing from happening again. Absolutely,
I think more fighters should do the same thing, and
more fighters should be punished for behaving that way. And
I do believe we're going to stop with that. Whatsoever,

(38:55):
I really don't understand. I had thirty three fights and
I never poked somebody in the eye, and I do
believe that the punishment for that should be severe.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Last week, he said that he would never fight you
for the title, that that he would vacate vacate the
title for you. What what was your reaction when he
said that?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
But because he's a really, really dear friend of mine,
and I do believe with that statement he really showed
his character. I would also not fight against him to
for the belt.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, that's what's going to happen Aspirnau will keep the
belt and you won't fight against him. This idea that
he would give it up, like I.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Mean, dude, life is too short to live it this way.
You got to have a better plan than this. This
is not a good plan.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I sided with Dana getting upset in this case. There
are you know in this case?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Now I just feel like, wait, wait and see what
they do when the time comes, because they'll say anything now,
partly as a way to just signal allegiance. So it's like, okay, fine,
let him say what they want to say. Maybe the
reality is when the bill comes due that they change
their tune. But as a general rule, if they may
maintain this with like what kind of insane career sabotage
self sabotage? This would be like you you you can't

(40:06):
live this way. If you guys both want to achieve things,
you have to do them in different places. Like that's
just where you're at.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
You know, yeah, just fight for it. Uh Luke, you
put in the rundown. The winner of this could be
aligned for a title show. What the hell are you
talking about?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I don't think that that's super crazy. I mean so,
I mean not in front of Jones and aspinall, like.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Volkov has it above who whatever happens here play? Volkov
has teammates.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
You're right, You're right, but I would caution, like I
maybe not with maybe not with Corteza Costa, but with Deliya.
None of these guys are like super popular attractions that
have any kind of real sway, so that changes the argument.
I guess. I'm just pointing out if they need to
keep people busy, like they'll call upon winners of fights

(40:55):
like this, as like, oh if Volkov gets injured and
they you know, they want to move the titles through
now again works sort of passed a point where you know,
the Jones thing has been settled one way or the other.
He's fighting, he's not at whatever that situation is. But
like I'm just pointing out, it's it's a like, you know,
they're team sixty five in the Tournament of sixty four,

(41:15):
but they're on the bubble of being in a place
where interesting things can happen very quickly for them. I
guess the way, all right.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
I'm gonna pick Ante Delia, Delia Delia. There's a three
round fight, not a five rounder. I think it goes
the distance too. I think we learn a lot more
about him, and I really think he's fighting on the blades.
Pavlovitch level next fight, which, by the way, is the
last stop before you're in that number one contender level
with where the division is right now, because he sees

(41:42):
in because he has that PFL experience against names, I'll
agree that he's a lot closer. Waldo, No, but this
guy is a lot closer regardless of where that friendship
situation stands. Luke, what else do you like on this card?
If anything, there are.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
A couple of gems up. I mean, gems has made
a strong word, all right, So let's go through here
a little bit and see what we like. Uh Kaitlyn
Vieiravis's normal dumont is relevant number four versus number five essentially,
or I think right around that in this division, So
that's actually an important one. Talita Alan Carr, who is
a great jiu jitsu practitioner, is back. She's six and

(42:20):
one at strawwait taking on Arianni Carnelosi. I'm not sure
if I pronounced the last name right. So you've got
some interesting fights there. Phil Rowe, the Philly Fresh guy,
is on this one. He's taken on a Korean dok
by the name of Seyak Kumko, so there's gonna be
some interesting ones. So now I'm guessing Long Island Luke,
that you're partial to the Isaac Dulgarian and yadi Air

(42:42):
del Avaller fight. Am I Am I wrong about that?

Speaker 5 (42:46):
No?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I was gonna shout out the Phil Rowe suck Young
Co fight. I mean Co's that guy who got the
upset win over Oban Elliott in his UFC debut. Phil
row is just fun as how all of his wins
come by was good.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Oh, by the way, Sidric dumazd Moss is on this
fucking Cayard.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
And the guy he's fighting is six and oh with
six first round knockouts, so uh, he might get his
lights put out.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Pretty What does it take to get released from your
UFC deal? I honestly don't know the answer.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Sam Alvey went nine straight fights without a win, and
they didn't really.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, but he also wasn't like accused, true true, very
very accused of accused of committing allegedly fairly heinous crimes
during that time, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
How about uh, Charles Radkey versus Daniel Franza could be
fun just because they both get finished a lot, and
they both.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Rad Key's the Radkey's the maga donk.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't agree with you.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
They all are no no, but some are more in
your face about it. I think I thought I could.
I remember the Canadians bulling the shit out of him.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Right, he said if I don't remember what kind of slur,
but he definitely set a slur in one of his
post fight interviews.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Rad Key or not rad Key, I forgot Anyway, two
things I'm looking at. One monserrat Ruiz Luke brings her
three fight losing skid back to the cage. Remember when
Cheyenne was going to follow that bitch home?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yes, you more so than I.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
But okay, and what about in this fight before the
Colemane event, Jeremiah Wells against Theembo Garimbo. Garimbo has been
making news this week and seemingly pissing everyone off. Wasn't
he the guy who uh who had his fixed your
house with the with the rock? He won that show
and then he uh And now he's saying that he

(44:26):
he's he needs to feed his kids, so he's willing
to kill a man in the cage if necessary. He
said that a media day this week.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah he did. He fought a bunch in twenty twenty four.
He fought one, two, three, four times, losing ultimately to
Vicente Luke in the first round. This is his first
fight back. Jeremiah Wells good athlete, powerful, physical athlete. I
think sometimes gets a little bit over in front of
his skis with the kind of aggression he likes to
go for, but certainly a sturdy challenge. This one is

(44:55):
probably fun. But the Garimbo situation, I'm not he's he's
at a wee. He said a weird UFC run right
where the rock was, like here's a house and you're like, oh,
this is incredible. I feel good story and he did
do well, but like I feel like some of that
shine has fizzled along the way.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
I would have finished in his last fight and like
under a minute by sent Yeah, I feel like it's
dropped it since then. But he was kind of hyped
up before.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, all right, there's.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
A few weird storylines. I mean, if they led uh
Dumas fighting with the lowjack on, I love that Luke,
that's just like some raways.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
They did that at b KFC. Then has had ankle monarchs.
I think he got to take it the judge had
him take it off. Okay, but you know, I mean, dude, this.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Is well that right, there is the sport of Kings.
Oh my god, bro that right there is topic number
one to look ahead to the weekend before we get
to topic number two. I did want to look back
quickly last night. No assets to share, but Luke, did
you see the couple second ko from Gable Steveson in
the Dirty Boxing Nashville main event against probably the guy

(46:05):
who set up the cage, but also your boy John
Jones wearing an ipatch begging Dana for a white house fight.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah. I don't care about that part, but the Gable
Steveson part. I mean. Also, he's got you know, the
worst past ever as well, apparently all these fighters do today.
But we're just assessing what he can do in the ring.
The KO I didn't care about. He fought, you know
whoever the fuck it doesn't It doesn't mean much. Did
you see him jump over the fucking ropes?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
No? I didn't see that. That sounds awesome Long Island.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Luke, did you see him do that?

Speaker 4 (46:33):
All I saw was the Brian battle finish unseen.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
D We can't. I don't know if there's any way
for you to get a screen shot. I'm talking about
the ropes of the actual dirty boxing. I don't know
if it's a I guess it's a ring ring. He
knocks the guy out and then he kind of turns
around and celebrates and then just runs, but you know,
just a few steps and then in one jump jumps
over the top fucking rope and then lands like a

(46:58):
fucking panther.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I was like, I wonder if he could ever be
that athletic. That's incredible. Luke also on this car Brian
Battle had a wacky fight where he got hurt early,
rallied back and then landed that one more blow as
his opponent was on his knees looking up at him.
Do you know his opponent was that dude in the
Daz camp who brawled with milesvied Al's coach at the
at that presser that I was at. He is, Yeah,

(47:23):
the dude with the red hair. I think that's the
same dude also, And this was one of the more
feel good wins that I've seen a long time. To
a great guy, former belator, MMA upset star Big Tuna
Big Ten Parrish, who has bounced around in recent years,
had some ups, had some downs. Dude. He looked real
good last night on Dirty Boxing. Got a first round. Ko.

(47:47):
I'm talking about like Big Tuna two point zero, the
era begins, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, we're big fans of Big Tuna. Happy to hear that.
He's always had good hands. He's always been a guy
who put him on you if you if you stand
around long enough. So to Ben Parrish, I'm glad to
hear you got the win.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, great, great workout there, big too, and also good stuff,
also real quick. MICHAELA. Mayer moved up to one fifty
four last night for top rank and want. He won
the Unified Championship, her third weight title she started at
She won a title one thirty one, now one fifty
four at thirty five and on top of her game.
You got to give her credit for that. Who it

(48:22):
was on the top ranked classics like two BE or
Fast Networks Channel, I've seen not I didn't see.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
The highlight, my timeline nothing, look at I could get
bro look at this ship. What the fuck he just
goes right over it.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I was like, that's sick.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That is insane, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
All right, let's go to topic number two. Uh, these
are real, credible reports from credible reporters and not just
another wacky carnival announcement. Possibly here those reports surfacing saying
that Netflix is interested in a rematch the biggest boxing
matchup financially of all time, the twenty fifteen megafight between
Floyd Mayweather and Many Pakiao, to the point that there's

(49:09):
even talk that it could be at the Sphere in
Las Vegas. So Netflix loves the carnival stuff right now,
Luke the bigger picture, because I haven't heard a damn
person yet say they would be all for this, because obviously,
what is Floyd forty eight, Manny forty or just turning
forty seven shortly? And it would be a real fight,

(49:31):
by the way, But what does this say about the
state of boxing in general? I mean, we're coming up
on a Jake Tank fight that not a damn person
wants or cares about. In the very disturbing news of
yet another domestic violence based lawsuit filed against Gravonte Davis
only makes that worse. It's Carnival season here boxing feels
like it's in the toilet until we see what Turkey

(49:53):
and TKO have next year. But what does it say
about Boxing that Netflix would want this over Benavita is
better beef?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
You know what I'm saying, dude, this is I'm starting,
I'm starting to get some kind of like fair all right,
maybe this is doom and gloom. I wouldn't be the
first time I had a doom and gloom prediction BC right,
wouldn't be the first, probably won't be the last. So
but all means take this with a grain of salt.
Let me just tell you what I'm I'm not even
saying this is what I fully agree with, but what's

(50:23):
swirling around my head, which is, Dude, I cannot I
just cannot get out of my head the parallels that
I think might be there to late nineties, early two
thousands Japanese Mma. And of course there's me very very many,
you know, many different circumstances between the two, like a
ton there's a lot of things that don't overlap about them.

(50:46):
But the point I'm trying to make is I thought
that Boxing could tolerate the kind of Jake Paul thing
as a sideshow. And I'm not even trying to be demeaning.
What I'm trying to say is is like the relevant
side of the sport and people who you know, the
most people will care about this. And if there's this
kind of extra audience that has some boxing fans but

(51:08):
some that are not that are interested in this kind
of you know again, what do you want to call it,
YouTube boxer side of things, whatever, then that's fine and
they don't need to really compete. They don't really compete.
They don't really They're just kind of serving somewhat overlapping
but ultimately pretty different audiences. And now I'm not sure
I believe that anymore. Now I think that it might be.

(51:32):
It's not like what Jake is doing is like he's
ruining boxing. He is a symptom of a diseased kind
of sport, Like his ascension shouldn't be possible in an
otherwise healthy system. When I say ascension, I don't mean
just having some kind of role dude like he's got.
I mean he fucking fought in front of one hundred

(51:52):
million people with Mike Tyson in on on Netflix, like
like like I'm not even doing a bit. Boxing just
basically doesn't get much bigger than that in terms of
audience size. I mean that was a huge, huge fight.
I mean the answers look like, you know, Maybether pakiel
One was bigger. You know what I'm saying, BC. But
the point I'm trying to say is it feels like
there are no stars in boxing, particularly American boxing, and

(52:17):
what the people who want big events are being forced
to do is play the hits. They're having versus battles
between No Limit and who's the other one from New
Orleans Cash Money Records, Right, I mean, it just feels
like you're just playing the old hits again because nobody
is making anything new that matters.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Taking the running man, Luke, that's all people do these days.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
You know, Well, don't you feel like that that is
It's not just like it's the problem is what does
that say about the sport? Yes, dude, twenty fifteen's Mayweather
pakiel One was late. There was consternation in twenty fifteen BC.
You were there, I was there. You remember this. People

(53:00):
were like, if this fight's happening a little late, it's
happening a little late. And then Pacio's shoulders fucked up.
The fight was a bit of a dud, and people
were like they were thirty.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Eight thirty six age wise in the first fight, despite
the fact that they were still one and two pound
for pound. But yeah, I mean five and a half
six years is probably aggressive a legit four years to it.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, So my point I'm trying to make is now
we're ten years, about to be eleven years after that,
and they're asking to bring that back. Do We were
there when Floyd fought Logan, and Logan, you know, is
obviously a pretty good athlete, but Floyd couldn't put him
away and even said after in the postfight presser, I'm
done with real bouts, Like I'll do this, you know,
fun influencer stuff or whatever, but like, I'm I'm not

(53:42):
doing this. I wouldn't fight a real boxer anymore. He was,
and he was like kind of humble about it, which
I don't ever say about Floyd Mayweather, and he was
humble about it. And here we're doing this. Dude to me, like,
if again, if there were huge bouts happening in conjunction
with this, I don't know that I would care. But
these are the only seemingly I know, we just had

(54:03):
Kendall the Crawford, but like these kinds of things, and
the Netflix is pining for it, Dude. It makes me
feel a little weird about the state of the fucking sportman.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, it's yeah, I'm with you completely.
Turkey's been quiet lately, like when when he's putting on bangers,
since he controls these days the majority of the star
fighters in the game, of course, I don't feel this
way as much. But and obviously that that big ring
card coming out the end of November is very good
with Benavitez in the main event in Haini versus Norman.
But yeah, look, here's the problem, okay, I mean, the

(54:35):
problem is the fight's unnecessary. They're too old, and if
it was an exhibition, i'd hate it more, But I
also hate it as a real fight. If only, to
be honest, if only Manupaciao, who got a draw against
welter Way title holder Mario Barrios earlier this year, if
only he had won, and rightfully he should have. If
you rewatch that fight and score it, uh, he kind

(54:55):
of got a raw deal. We talked about that a lot.
At least we would have this a rematch with the
actual world title at stake and Floyd dunbeaten record and
even though yes, it's an old guy side show that
that just happened. Sometimes the legend of Pacquiao stumbled into
a real title and it was enough to get Floyd

(55:16):
back in shape. And here we go. It's it's both
at the same time. It really does matter and it's
this complete side show. But just because of that one
little change and the judges scoring at a draw rather
than a manny victory, it's it's now a complete side show.
And these are the marquee fights. Like I I really
I've said it from the beginning, I really hope Jake
Tank doesn't happen. Just it's just it's just not it's

(55:37):
just not necessary, I guess I want to say in
the arc of Gervonte Davis, but the arc of Jervonte
Davis is going downhill repeatedly, not just in his outside
the ring stuff, but he was uninspired and overwhelmed against Roach.
He talked about retirement coming into that anyway, He's obviously
holding up really big fights that could be happening in boxing,
including the shakhor Stevenson one.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
But at this point, it's how many more times could
he get caught for the same thing or accused of
the same thing, And we're just gonna sit here and
be okay with it. You add that onto a fight
that no one wants and the ticket sales aren't moving
makes me feel bad. Luke makes me feel bad. I mean,
I didn't feel great being had that Danny Garcia finale,
which was very underpopulated. I don't feel great that Every

(56:19):
week the last two months were like, where the hell
is this sport? I know we got some decent fights
coming up Lubin Ortez, like, you know, there's some one
offs coming up Ben versus U Bank too, But damn man.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Can I ask a question?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
But you know this is a show for questions, Luke long.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
On, Luke, I would like to get your impression here too.
Let's combine this conversation with what we've talked about with topology,
where the at least in the dominant three markets in MMA,
maybe some other ones, but certainly the dominant ones that
the number of overall events are declining. Are people becoming
less interested in combat sports after a boom period.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
I don't think it's after a.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Two and five to twenty nineteen even even for parts
of the pandemic, and there're two obviously, but certainly that
period was one of the most explosive growth periods of
combat sports in my life.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Yeah, but it was also like so new at that
at least for UFC. We're talking boxing as well. Like
you know, the UFC in two thousand and five is
what twelve years old, So it's like it was so
new at that point. I don't know, man, I do
think it's going down a lull right now, but I
do think it's going to come back up.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
I think the Paramount kickoff will help UFC and hopefully
they can maintain that. I think overall, Luke, the warehouse cards,
all the stuff that we complained about the last two
years to some degree has watered down the.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
The But this is boxing too, you can I'm getting boxing.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I'm saying it's definitely watered down. The crossover cultural appeal
partly is, of course you have seen not building up
stars as aggressively. But on the flip side, but not
only was UFC red hot Postpan boxing was pretty damn
red hot in twenty twenty three with all those big
fights Tank versus Ryan Spence, Crawford, what have you. I
think I'm gonna be really honest, I think as good

(58:09):
as Turkey has done in not only bringing big fights
together that we always say probably wouldn't have because of
the money, and if it works out, unionizing and organizing
the sport under one entity, which is the goal. The
biggest fail in that has been keeping all the big
fights on his own pay per view where you have
to have his own subscription to order it, and not

(58:31):
putting stuff on national television, not you know, not doing
enough Netflix shows until his first one there Kenello Crawford,
which was a major success. I think that's really put
boxing deeper into the niche Nietzche Bowl. You know, Showtime
going away as well didn't help that top rank can't
get a TV deal here we are. I don't think
that means it's dead and not coming back, but it's

(58:54):
a low period. And if you're somebody who wants to
be a boxing fan, but they make it difficult for you.
And you hated Tyson Paul rightfully so, and you're probably
gonna hate Mayweather Pacio too as much as you're gonna
hate Jake Tank. So this is what we got, okay,
because if you don't, I mean, that's the problem with
being on his own. I've always been honest with that.

(59:14):
The only people in America on designer boxing fans. That's it.
That is it. No one's stumbling across that like they
might on their Amazon Prime menu or you got to say,
Netflix does a good job of putting fights in front
of you. My wife, out of nowhere two days ago,
was like, so let's talk about Javonte Davis's tattoos. I'm
like what what? Like, what how did we you know?

(59:36):
And then I'm like, oh, the Netflix affect.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yes, it's just I'm just telling you, Like they're the
ones being like, okay, we want to have a big
boxing event. Let's go get Mayweather and fucking Pakia as
they bang fifties door down, like, well.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
You know, it's a bunch of executives going. But Tyson
got us a lot. These guys can probably get close
to that, right.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Okay, but okay, who are the other boxers who could
do that that are active?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
And you know, well we would have that if they
fought each other, and I hope they will soon.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I hope they don't. Motherfuckers saying well, all of them
have had problems.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Tanks had problems, Ryan's had problems, like these are the
guys that are usually responsible for these really big fights
Spence never fought again Bud Fogg.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Ryan for each other. But I know what you mean,
like you know in general, No.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
But they fought each other and then they both kind
of went away lately in terms of mattering. So for sure, Uh, yeah,
it sucks and that's all I have to say about it.
You have you got that Rayfaield tweet? Do you have
any other info about this as uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
This is what he reported.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Ten years Yeah, right, all right. The fight has contemplated
as an official match up, not an exhibition. Uh, these
talks are real the quote the source said, but who
knows if it'll get done, so Luke. Simultaneously, of course,
Manny Pacya was also publicly entertaining an exhibition match with
a retired Vasilli Womachenko. That I have to say, many
you just fall for a title at forty six. If

(01:00:50):
you got Loma to retirement, who's in his early forties
and you did this just as a legit, fun kind
of mini super fight, I'd be all for it. You
put that exhibition tag on there, miss me with it,
you know what I'm saying, Like, seriously, I don't. I
don't want this. Also, it seems that this Maypack two
talk has rightfully killed whatever that Floyd Mayweather versus Tyson

(01:01:13):
exhibition idea was that inevitably would suck too. So there
we are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
That's good. I mean I'll take Mayweather Pakio two over
Mayweather Tyson, you know what I mean, especially if it's
a real bout. I mean I don't want that either.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Dude, what do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Why are guys near? I mean, how much money is
pak Does you owe a ton of money?

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I know I don't know his financial situation, but somebody
should check Michael Khnson's bank accountant. Thank you his old
financial guy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
I mean top ranks on freaking top rank classics. At
the moment, this sport is in chaos. Maybe data is
the safer we need.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Luke, I don't know if chaos is the word or
free fall, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
In trouble we fallen. But you can't kill it. Larry
Merchant was right, you can't kill it. There'd be another
super fighter on the corner. I just hope the guys
are under forty. I really do. Thank you so much
to Big Number three talk about this for a viral podcast.
Burn Chrysler's got a god forsaken show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Can you imagine going on his podcast and thinking this
is a good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah, and the worst laugh of all time. Luckily he
kept his shirt on, but he welcomed Ronda Rousey, and
I was just gonna say, man, Ronda Rowsey has done
some interviews lately, and for the first time in a
long time, she didn't piss me off, and I was like,
I get where she's coming from. Now. Granted those those
interviews were about pro wrestling. This was about MMA, and

(01:02:32):
this ral the few people that already didn't like Ronda
Rowsey rightfully so up, namely that she still appears to
be at odds with both MMA fans and MMA media
and MMA fandom in general. She also dropped a dougie
on Joe Rogan that was kind of surprising to the
level here that before we get Luke's take, we kind

(01:02:55):
of had a call in our friends from Quervo because
spicy Ronda getting rowdy like shot Fired style. Shot Fired
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Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Is there a price point that would get you back
in the Oxgon?

Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
I mean, I have everything I want. There's nothing that
would really changed my life.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Just do let's do price points on this.

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
Okay, billion dollars, one hundred and fifty million, billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Three hundred and fifty million dollars billion. You're just fighting
Burn Chrysler.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
All right, I will beat the shadow you in your
backyard for this house.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
How long do I get the train?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I was just talking to Joe on the walkover.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
How long for me to train to beat Ronda? That'll
never have it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
He wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
He's not a expert.

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
He's a fan with an audience.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
It's interesting is that you feel.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Never fought?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
He fought. He fought taekwondo, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Never fought.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
That's not fighting, it's not fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Well, I'm gonna actually this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I don't want you to get any bad dms. We
need to get out. Wow, Wow, we got one more
piece of content to show you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Dude, I don't watch a lot of burnt Chrysler content
because I'm a You're not Mikey. I'm not a masochist
in that way. Uh, he can't have a contra I
mean we all do it to an extent, but like,
I've never seen a guy who cannot have a conversation
at every interval without telling the other person he's interviewing

(01:04:53):
about his life. Every single time. It's you know a
little bit now and again. It's fine, you know, everyone like,
but it's like every fucking interval.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Okay, go ahead, sorry, Well it's true. Stars make it
all about themselves in this industry, Luke, We've seen that many.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Ronda though, upset about this specific point with MMA fans,
the idea that they only love you when you're unbeaten
and you're dominating and you're winning, but they instantly hate
you when you lose. Or maybe it's because of the
way you acted. Hey, here's Ronda talking about it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:25):
MMA fans and media are the most what have you
done for a slightly crowd of any sport? Like you
look at WWE and they have such a reverence for
their legends, and at MMA, it's like the second that
you're not on top, you're not shit and you never
wear shit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Chuck Adell.

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
When he's on top, Oh my god, he's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
He's the best.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
The second that he loses, oh, chuck the dell a
and shitt he never wi shit, Ram Page Jackson, Oh
my god, he's the next. He's the next, Mike Tyson.
He's so great. Second he loses, oh, rampaging and shit,
you never wi shit. Gsp Oh he loses. You know,
he's not shit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
He never was shit.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
And I think the only reason that why MMA fans
have their lips so firmly planted at the base of
Kabeb's cook is because he retired before he reaches limit.
And if he ever if he kept fighting until he
reach his limit, everybody'd be like, oh, could be bain shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
He never w was shit.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
And they're like that with everybody, like name some name
one person brought gain hit you never w was shit.
Name one pass champion that has that the kind of
respect that the current champions do. It's it's really sad
because I think it encourages people to try and get
out while they're peaking and taking all of that equity
with them instead of passing it on to whoever's next

(01:06:37):
to take up the mantle. I wanted to retire undefeated
because I was so afraid of like, oh, everything that
I accomplished is going to be nothing if I ever lose.
So I have to retire undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Feed it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
So that was shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo.
Now it's a good time to enjoy the tequila that
invented tequila Luke Thomas. Does she have a point?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
No, you go first, then?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Okay? Does she have a point in general that MMA
doesn't love their legends like they do And she's saying
in w W E or in other sports. To some degree,
I could say that's true, but that's not an MMA
media or fan problem. It's kind of just the way
UFC promotes. Yes, they got a Hall of Fame. Yes
there's legends still employed like DC on commentary, et cetera.

(01:07:30):
But they're not really about the past. They're always about
the future and what's next, always, always, always, and they
expand and they grow and look at where they are now.
I don't always love that. I love comparing things to
the past. I love you know you, but they don't
parade legends around typically on that level. I love what
Josee Aldo got in Brazil when him and his family

(01:07:52):
got to retire for you know, for real. There there's
some moments like that. The recent sendoffs to Robbie Lawler,
people like that have been great. The other point I
I I object with is she said, we're such a
you know, we're such a community of what have you
done for me lately? That's combat sports, Ronda, because you
don't have one hundred and sixty two game seasons. Here,
you have two fights, a AR four Lucky with the Stars, right,

(01:08:12):
three fights are great Kevin Holland, But that's it, right,
So automatically it's always going to be hypercritical of what
you've done for me lately, because whatever you've done for
me lately is who you are. I know you can
have bad nights, but that's all we have to judge
you off. This is not a problem of everyone turned
on her because she lost. This is a problem because

(01:08:35):
she turned on everybody with the way she handled losing.
And I'm not trying to downplay the depression and even
near suicide thoughts she had in the immediacy of that loss,
because I try to imagine being in her shoes at
that time and where her head was and her fame
was and all of that. I get it all. She imploded,
but I get it all. But when she acts so

(01:08:56):
abrasively and has you know, I'll fight newness, but only
under the most protected ways of I'm only going to
talk to Ramona Shelburn and that said, and f everyone
else like this is on you, you disappeared. You know
this ain't on us. It's disappointing to see this, Luke,
because in some ways it's misdirected. But I think if

(01:09:19):
she actually showed that she cares about her mma, legacy
and the sport today and showed up and acted like
like we don't actually need her to come back and fight.
What she accomplished will always be in stone what it was.
An amazing star and pioneer in every sense of the word.
But she's the one that's been in hiding and been

(01:09:41):
angrily aggressive towards this business. Come back, act human, and
I think it would embrace her. We do love legends
in this game, and also maybe talk to your boy, Dana.
They should do a little bit more to parade what was.
I agree with that, but that's not everything in this game.
I respect you build with the audience, af the media,

(01:10:03):
we're fickle. The respect you build with the audience, that's
what should matter. You can invest back in that if
you want, but you gotta be there. You gotta try.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I think you make some pretty good points, I will say,
and I'm sure you agree with this. It is no
matter what you want to say in terms of who's
responsible for what. It is very regrettable that Ronda and
a legend of the game and pioneer in many ways,
and what she did or certainly you know, whatever you
want to say she did is an enormously important chapter
in MMA's history and development that the person largely responsible

(01:10:36):
for that can't be celebrated by the MMA community. Now
you might be able to point out she didn't let
herself be and I understand that, but I'm saying just
how fractured and broken it is. It is very regrettable,
and I wish it was not this way for her
sake and for MMA's sake. I wish it was not
this way. I think you raised some good points. B
ce I do. It's the nature of combat sports, I

(01:10:57):
will say, MMA fans, I mean, look how fast are
turning on Tom aspinall and others Like you know, I
understand your point that the limited volume of competition results
kind of exacerbates, but culturally there's like a victim blaming
culture in MMA as well, and you know that's part
of it. On the other hand, I was there not
when she lost to Holly Holm, but I remember the

(01:11:18):
aftermath of it, and if you don't, she took that
loss very poorly. Uh. And then for the Amanaded new
Nest fight because people might not remember this BC, but
for the Amanaded Nest fight, she wouldn't talk to MMA
media at all, as you indicated. She only talked to
Ramona Shellburn. And did you hear Ariel caught some strays
in this interview. I'm not sure if you heard it. PC.
She was, you know, because Bert brings her up, brings

(01:11:39):
them up, and then she's like, you know, what was
the last time I've gone on his show? You know
what does that say? But she was making a point
not just about him, but about all of MMA media. Yeah,
something to be said for that, dude. I mean, I've
kind of you know, it's hard to do both interviewing
with fighters as well as being critical of them, and
you might it's not for the reason people think, which

(01:11:59):
is oh they'll get mad at you. I mean, yes,
they will get mad at you, but it's the manager
in them. They'll just decide to stop talking to you.
So you have a very difficult balance to strike, which is,
how do you maintain a professional relationship with an entity
when you're very critical of them and they're very sensitive
about this. Now, if you're big enough, they kind of

(01:12:20):
just get over it, many of them do. Many of
them seem to just kind of find a way to
live with it. But I can just tell you from
personal experience, it is a great source of constant problems.
So you kind of have to just pick a lane, honestly,
and you know everyone picks their own. But I sort
of get what she's saying about that. She's like, why
am I going to be doing interviews with people who

(01:12:42):
are critical of me? And my answer is, I don't
think that's a great response. But that is so typical
of how the media.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
That's why I say, don't don't worry about the media,
because half of them are just facal for the fake
of his sake.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
If she combines the two, she doesn't it. She sees
them as interconnected.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Right, and they're not. And also, our job critical also like,
embrace your what you've accomplished, embraced that. I don't know
Duncan on podcasters. She didn't throw shops name in there, right, No.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I mean you heard it go after Rogan here, you know,
and it's like, dude, do you remember this too? So
after she loses, and then there is you know, Holly's
competing and Ronda came back for the Amanda Dunas fight,
they weren't allowed to show highlights of her win over Ronda. Now,
when I say that, I'm not saying I got a
memo where they had said that policy. I distinctly recall

(01:13:32):
if you go back and look at the trailer used
to promote the Amanda Nunas fight, there's no footage of
that loss that appears. Now they make reference to it
and things like that, but they don't actually show her
getting head kicked. It was such a big deal for her,
she didn't even want to be exposed to the highlights.
And again, I'm sure it's painful. I guess the pin
I'm trying to make his BC. On the one hand,
I do think there is kind of like the the

(01:13:54):
sport is somewhat abusive to its stars and in a
way that it shouldn't be, and I think we should
all we should say that. On the other hand, she
seems to be reacting very negatively to things that definitely
have a negative reaction among fighters generally, but her response
is even relative to them outsized. Yeah, and I think

(01:14:15):
that's kind of the problem. You might say, well, she
gets more of the you know, the the invective than
the other ones. Yeah, she probably does. But dude, you know,
I mean, I'm sorry, BC, tell me what I'm about
to say is wrong to the audience. You can't believe
the level of positive press an MMA fighter has gotten
in their lives until you've seen Ronda Rousey Connor BC

(01:14:36):
maybe have gotten you know a lot of that too,
but like you know, as a breaking barriers and you know,
changing the face of women's sports. And dude, she got
more positive press than I've ever seen an MMA fighter get.
And for her to be like, oh, the MMA fans
and the and the media were critical, it's like, I mean,
what the fuck you want us to say? You got

(01:14:57):
head kicked in Australia after taking an opponent lightly like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yeah, and then then we never heard from me again. Literally, Yeah,
I'm not saying she owes all these reporters interviews. I'm
just saying, like, no, she doesn't know a ship. But
when you go away and you're angry to us about it,
you're not gonna get good coverage. It just kind of
is what it is. It's tied together, all right, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
To move for an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
I don't know how that, How did that even happen?
Like that's just like that's that podcast is like when
you trust the fart, right, you know what I mean? Like,
this is the last time I'm gonna do that. Well,
last freaking time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
You changed the name of it to Dutch Oven.

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Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Go all right, so I'm talking about Thank you very much. Okay,
let's get into the next topic. Topic number four. Hey, PFL,
can you hold on to your best assets here please?
Larissa Pacheco, who famously beat Kayla Harrison in their Trilogy
and is a two time PFL tournament champion, although she

(01:17:06):
hasn't fought since that lost to Chris Cyborg in that
big pay per view card. According to Pacheco, the PFL
has released her from her contract this week, despite already
having a fight booked against Julia Bud. Why did PFL
do this and does it even make sense LT? Because

(01:17:28):
Larissa has now gone on social media and outright begged
Dana White for a job and a return to the
UFC where she's been before. The quote here from Pacheco
as PFL reached out to me a month ago. They
were going to send me a date, possibly against Julia Bud.
So we wanted We waited, and then they were no
longer interested in doing another fight and keeping the division going,

(01:17:49):
and that they were releasing me. The reason they gave
me was that there were no other fighters left. It
was just me Sarah Collins, who's fighting Cyborg now, who's
six to zero in Cyborg. I was supposed to fight
Julie one more time. Cyborg would fight that girl, she'd
defend her title, and then I'd have the chance for
my rematch afterwards, obviously against Cyborg, she says. PFL told

(01:18:10):
Cyborg it was her last fight was against me, she'd
retire early, that she had no interest in fighting me again.
So I said, all right, That's what happened. They released me,
even though I still had two fights left on my contract. LT.
Isn't as simple as they don't want to employ that
division anymore because she's one of the you could argue
that she's one of like the seven best women in

(01:18:32):
this on this planet in this sport.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I mean, she's good, but what does it do for
your bottom line? PFL, look at what they're doing, dude.
They keep I'm not against it, I support it, but
they basically keep trying to simplify. PFL came out with
this thing like, oh, promote matchmakers and promoters are unfair.
We're going to take that out of it. And there's
so many fighters who get who are underserved based on

(01:18:57):
one circumstance of the other. We're going to be the
antidote to that. And that is fun for a while,
but at some point you realize you're supporting losing causes
and that these have to be shed because yes, it
differentiates your product, but the other people in the space
don't use it because it ultimately also doesn't work. Or
maybe they can make it work for reasons that other

(01:19:18):
entities cannot. Dude, if you're trying to make your product
as lean and mean and sellable as possible, if you
wanted to actually grow a fan base, and they know
they've got new leadership there at PFL, and you know
they'regain to trying to simplify the product and make it
more accessible and all of these kinds of efforts, which
I generally support. Why on earth would you float a

(01:19:38):
division where Cyborg has one left? And after that, what
do you have? You have nothing. You have to make
very very very tough choices. If you're the PFL, I
believe about what kinds of parts of our what is
our product going to be, and to what extent should
that be informed by what we can sell as the
most dynamic parts of MMA to the broader audience. Because

(01:20:02):
everything they've done, it's not like they haven't put on
good fights PC they have. It's not like they haven't
developed good fighters they have. It's not like they haven't
done interesting things. They have. But they are this far
into their run and they have no domestic fan base
and they've got one year left on ESPN that will
happen outside of the UFC halo, which, by the way,
if the UFC halo goes to what extent will ESPN

(01:20:24):
cover MMA at all? We simply do not know the
answer to that. But I suspect if you're PFL, you
might be a little bit worried about it. You need
to make very careful decisions. I am sorry, I really
am that Pataiko got hung out to dry. It sucks
that they told her one thing and then you know
that they pull out the rug from underneath there. I
don't wish it upon her. She has value for UFC,

(01:20:46):
but I also just think people need to be somewhat
realistic about PFL. Not so much in the way that
they handled it per SBC, but like, if they're gonna
get rid of this division and they've got one left
with Cyborg, why on earth would they retain her services?
And honestly, getting rid of the division in the world
where Cyborgan is no longer there and won't fight Pacheco,
it makes all the sense in the world to me.
It's just unfortunate that someone this good got left in

(01:21:08):
this position, and I'm obviously unhappy about that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Yeah. So, Pocheco's thirty two years old. She had a
ten fight win streak between her loss to Kayla Harrison
in their second fight and the loss to Chris Cyborg
in her most recent fight, winning two tournament titles in between.
She fought at lightweight and featherweight and She did have
a two fight UFC run back when she was twenty
one years old, lost both fights by stoppage, a submission

(01:21:33):
loss to Jessica Androdge in twenty fourteen and then ako
loss in the second round to Jermaine Randomy. So that's
obviously high level competition, but she's beaten some big names
on the regional level as well that are in the
UFC today. But here's the issue, Luke now. Should be
should be the time that UFC does one of two things,

(01:21:53):
in my opinion, Either brings back the featherweight division for women,
why because there's crazy depth. No, because I don't know
how realistic it is for Kayla Harrison to keep making
thirty five. We talk about this all the time, and
you have her career rival who she's fought three times
and lost and suffered that huge upset loss to, who's
also really good and one of the best in the world.

(01:22:13):
Or you do the women's heavyweight bit, however you want
to do it. I feel like you have to create
space because if they have no interest in it, and
I'm not saying it's a overly financially huge decision to make,
meaning as much as I would be interested in Kayla
versus Pacheco four would mainstream MMA fans. I'm not sure, Luke,
is there a chance she has nowhere to go? And

(01:22:35):
is that why the video where she was essentially begging
Dana was the way it went.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
I I'm not sure. I'm guessing. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Okay, Uh long island. Luke reminding me that she was
also on The Ultimate Fighter and got tko by Macy
chaise On back in the day, so's she's come around
as a fighter. But I mean, look, dude, look, do
you believe Kaylea can keep making thirty five or you
don't care? Where are we?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
I mean, I cannot imagine she's got many more of
those left? Inner all right? It takes it? Ge'ts shortening
her fucking life? She I mean, I was a two three?
What seems impossible to Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Do you think Cyborg ever fights in the UFC again?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Okay, okay, Well we do have Amanda coming back. Uh
Pacheco could be a name, but I don't know if
she can make one thirty five. That's probably the conversation
to have. Let's close here though, with topic number five,
and in honor of Halloween tonight, two Ki's night. Okay,
let's talk some scary stuff. Let's talk what's scary inside

(01:23:36):
mixed martial arts. Luke, we want to know on your list,
who are the top five scariest punchers in MMA or
UFC history.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Okay, now, Long Island. Do you have a graphic for this?

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Do you want me to show it at the beginning
or wait till you name him?

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Do it now, just show it up and I just
I'll walk you through. All right, here are mine? Number five.
We all gonna this is a deep cut, but we're
talking about like scary punchers, not best fighters, just scary punchers.
Number five, Drew mcfrederie's was just absolutely hitting people's off
switches in the twenty in the two thousands and early
twenty tens. I mean in a frightening and devastating puncher,

(01:24:16):
limited fighter, but devastating. Need I say MOREBC at number four,
the h Bomb Dan Henderson, Please, I mean, you could
put him higher on the list, but he's got to
be on there. Anthony Rumbull Johnson sent people to the
shadow realm in ways that was absolutely terrifying. You would,
I mean the glover to share a KOBC where he
sent his teeth flying in one and Glover had a

(01:24:38):
good chin for a while, but not after this fight.
Shane Carwin, if you've never seen him send Christian Welsh's
mouthpiece into fucking orbit, go take a look at that one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Brutally too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yes, a terrifying puncher. I mean, if he connected it
at all, it was curtains for you, and maybe the
scariest of them all. BC here in honor of Halloween.
Francis fucking Anghanu the president himself. Well, I mean BC,
just the There are many oko's you could pick, but
the oveream KO was one of those times where you're like,

(01:25:12):
I don't know if I just saw a man murdered onto.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
In my opinion, in MMA history to this day, it's
the most brutally, ridiculous, violent and he got a title
shot a month later off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
I know, Long Island. After you see this list and
BC's list, let's go over some names that we missed. Okay,
let's do that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
You. I'm gonna put up a poll too and have
the fans vote on who has the better rate.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Great idea, I'd love.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
To see that, all right, Well, I want to make
sure we had no duplicates, So I was I was
digging a little deeper, but I think my list holds
up to yours. When we're talking about scary shit. Number five,
how about that featherweight freight train Josh Emmett. Don't know
about that man's power. See the Bryce Mitchell fight and
then talk to me later. Okay, somebody helped Bryce fix
his nose right. Number four a born finisher and kicked

(01:25:59):
by or Mma the two division maybe too soon to
be three division champion Alex Poeton Pejeda. He does have
the one touch sleep power the guy does when he
puts that left hook on your chin, it's over. Obviously
he can kick as well. We had to put Chuck
Ledell in here, right, I mean nobody maybe outside of
Dan Hendo, who became known at the tail end of
his career as just the guy who had cock that

(01:26:21):
h bomb right hand out there and threaten you with it.
That's how Ladell kind of fought his whole career. You
knew what was coming and that one punch could separate
you from your senses. I love the Baba Loo stoppage. Obviously,
the Tito or Teez knockout Luke. Number two, Melvin man
Hoof could kill a man inside there, maybe even a horse.
Right that guy in his absolute proper even when he
was old, you know, could you could on a on

(01:26:43):
a wrong night walk into sleepland. And he was known
for that. He lived and died by it across a
couple of disciplines and mixed martial arts. And how about
number one, Mark Punt. I mean, I love when you're
at a point in your career pre lawsuit of course,
where you're like, man, I'm just gonna get fat and
live on my chin in my right hand. This is
heavyweight mma. If you haven't seen the first fight with

(01:27:07):
Bigfoot Silva, could change your life right now or make
you never watch the sport again. What a bloodbath. All
five of these gentlemen right here could do a little
bit well. I like to call the three z's on
that bitch right there. Okay, put you all to sleep
because I'm too cheesy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Did you see Rap, for the first time in thirty
eight years, has no song in the billboard top forty?

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
About time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
I think Rap has finally jumped the shark. Okay, here's
who we missed for sure, we missed Robbie Lawler, for sure,
we missed him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
He's the guy's freaking ruthless.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
We missed Semtex Daily another guy with Again, we're not
just talking about guys who are good strikers, right, scary
punchers Long Island?

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Okay, how about step A? How about the damn Fireman?

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
I was gonna say, Derek Lewis, You guys no soul
that No, because now Steve Witton.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
He's too well rounded to be considered a devastating puncher.
He's also not a devastating puncher. No.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
I was trying to think a little more outside the box,
so I went lower weight classes and women. How about Cyborg?

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
I mean, come on, yes on.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Cyborg early Cyborg, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Yes on it. Jessica Androge is probably.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
One of devastating John Linneker hands the stone, John Yeah great.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
John Dodson also has some.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Isn't there a guy thats that owns the UFC record
for knockouts?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
I think it's Derek Lewis, might be or doesn't Matt
Brown weirdly own the record or something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
But he's got yeah, but he's got like elbow k
o s and the about Derek Lewis, man, that guy
has got one punch touch right there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Uh, I'm looking at the comments right now, people are
saying aspinall.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I feel like it's I mean, Es was more combo.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Yeah, I mean he's his speed and he's a great puncher,
but it's the jury. You have to have several where
you just like just lay them out flat in one go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Would you put Fador in that category? No, not even
old Fador?

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
No, ok no, he's not a puncher like that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
I'm trying to think who else are we missing here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
John Lineker is the perfect sort of you know, Emma
embodies that too, But like that's John Lineker should have
been in my top five man because that, you know,
for the second half of his career, that's all you
knew from him, That's all he was there to do.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yes, Lineker is a great call. I mean, obviously he's
not in the UFC anymore, but he did fight there,
especially for the smaller guys as well. Would you put
Iliot Toporion there? He's a pretty devastating puncher.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Yeah, he's getting there, dude, He's freaking getting you know
what I mean, Like, I still don't think of him
like that, but the results are the way they are right,
like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
I mean, you know, the thing is you can kind
of say, well, the volcan one was whatever it was,
and Charles is getting old, and you know Max has
been through it, but like no one had ever done
that to Max and he fucking it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
You know, It's like, damn, dude, Shane Carwin just had it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
People have no clue. Shane Carwin terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
No bits, no bits having to spar with that guy. Seriously,
straight up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I'm dead serious. I could not imagine that's that's torture.
I would not ward, could you every ever and multiple
times a week at that dude? That is unfair. That's
unfair to ask him a person?

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Do you put rampage in this?

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
In his prime he was a good puncher. He was
a good boxer, but he wasn't like a devastating puncher
in that way. No vitor belfore had fast hands, but
not exactly like a bomb. Rumble Johnson was the two.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
O five throat Rumble Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
I had him in my list. I had him in
my list. Yes, yes he was there. There's my list.
I mean, you gotta have him on there. But I
just feel like there's some deep cuts were missing some
guys who were limited fighters but who could fucking punch.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
You know, I love those type of guys. Reminds me
of ran Obaileyan boxing. Remember that dude the end of
his careage just went to South Korea and was just
knocking dudes fly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Julian Jackson was I think my all time favorite hart puncher.
He was, oh yeah, crushing people. It was insane.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Where'd you shoplift those glasses from.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Party City?

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
On that ass?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Okay, that's what I'm talking about? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
What are you? What are y'all doing for? Uh Halloween? Tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
My kids are going to a Halloween party. They're seniors
in high school, so they got you know, they'll have
the costume on. Uh uh. At first, I was like, hey, wife,
let's go out to eat so we don't have to
give out candy. But then she you know, talked me
back into having goodwill for my community and the young kids.
And so we're gonna probably uh uh you know, make
dinner and then give out candy like like we should, right,

(01:33:15):
you know, we're civic providers.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Go see a movie and turn on the sprinklers.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
I wanted to see the movie, but it's like literally
all Halloween gore and you know, lady, don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Down like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
All right, all right, I can't say what I want
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Uh, Luke, We got another segment here before we close
with the fans. It's the second time this has ever happened. Okay,
no one really likes putting another third person in the
marriage bed, but in this case, we'll make a pass.
This one's called at Baby. Did you hear that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
All? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Here's how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I'm gonna prevent present Luke with eight different categories and
three answers. He has to rate them all from best
to worst, or I'll let you know if that changes
at all. Luke number topic number one here retroactive death pardons.
Let's say you get that sickle. You get to decide
who to bring back. Rank them in order from from

(01:34:17):
best to worst. John F. Kennedy, Sean Taylor of Redskins fame,
or Chris Farley.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
The answer is Sean Taylor, and I'll tell you why.
H correct me if I'm wrong? Can you guys double
check this? I believe Sean Taylor was twenty four when
he was killed. He was he was like insanely young
and had his life and he was fucking murdered. You know.
Let's let's I mean, obviously John F. Kennedy was fucking
murder too, But Chris Farley not so much. Chris Farley's

(01:34:46):
gonna go last. WHOA well, well, I like Chris Farley more.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
So. Wait, the one you're bringing back first is Sean Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Sean Taylor number one, I should say number twenty one,
but yes, he'd be first on this line. Man, fuck
the Kennedy's. Yeah, let's bring back Farley. Let's bring back
Farley number two, and then we'll bring you know, well
jfk bringing up the rear.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Okay, here we go rfk's uncle. He's back. Luke. There
you go, all right? Topic number two here on Orang
jatois arrange these from best to worse of UFC Action
fight classics, the twenty fifteen Daniel Cormier Alexander Gustavsen light everyweight,
talk about the twenty twenty all female All banger in

(01:35:32):
the first meeting between way Lee and Joanna not for
a title, and twenty eighteen the first meeting between Dustin
Pourrier and Justin Gachee at lightweight. Rank these from best
to worst. Lit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Wow, that's a tough one. These are all phenomenal fights.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
And you must explain your answer, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna go b Wileye and Johanna
Number one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Look, she had a growth on her face.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
The best women's fight I've ever seen. I think you
have to put that above very very good men's fights.
But you know, okay, so I'm gonna go with that one.
Number one. This is where it gets dicey mmm. I
feel like most people would say Parier Gaichee, and I
think if you've got that as number two, I can't

(01:36:25):
really argue with it because what I'm gonna say is
from a sentimental perspective. This is what the Cormier Gustafson
is maybe my favorite Cormier fight, and not because he well,
he does win, but dude, he got pushed. He got
pushed big time, and that fight nearly got away from

(01:36:46):
him a couple of times, and he had to really
show his quality. Poitier had to do that against Gaichee too,
and it was more blood and guts, I think, honestly,
rather than you know, I think what I liked about
Cormier and Gustafson I was for a tight you know,
the quality was really really high, whereas the quality between
Gaechee and Poier was also very high, but it was

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a little bit more just bite down and go yeah.
And that again, that's for some people that's going to
make it higher in the rankings. I still appreciate that,
but I'm always going to appreciate some of the more
refined values that you can find in the crucible of
a tough challenge that you saw with Cormier and a Gustavson.
So I'll go that too.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
And then the last so Luco's BAC is his order
there on number.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Two alcohol content, which is going to be high in mine.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Tonight, let's go to number three. We're talking about second
tier Arnold Schwarzenegger movies from best to worst, True Lies
with Jamie Lee Hurtis Man, Total Recall, one of my favorites,
and the Dandy DeVito Classic Twins. So we ain't getting
Commando Predator.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Raw Deal Predator is not second tier. Predator is first tier.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Right, That's why I just said we ain't getting those
are all first tier ones for me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
You're question where would you put Schwarzenegger's Running Man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
It's it's one. It's become one of my least favorites
of his prime actions. Even though it's fun, over the top,
like it's great, it's just my least favorite compared to
Raw Deal, Commando Predator t too. Uh, you know, in
that stretch where it was like all action bangers. My
kids love it. They're excited about the remake coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
I'm not excited about the remake. All right, put it
up again. I read the book too. The book is
very different even from the Schwarzenegger one. So all right,
second tier Arnold movies, Okay, because of how weird it was,
you gotta go Total Recall as your first choice. Yes,

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I mean three titties. You don't see that very often
because not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Not that often, but still trying to find that bar
one day in Mars Luke, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
What I'm saying, all right, So that's number one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
True Lies was great, but it was really commercial though
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
And it was also wild racist. Yeah, let's go Twins.
Twins is so great when they have to explain to
Danny DeVito, yes, this is your brother and in Utero,
he got all of the gifts and you got all
the leftover shit. One of my favorite fucking scenes. Yeah,
so I'm gonna go BC A BC right, all.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Right, that's the LT choice. Let's go to number four.
You know, eminem candies on Halloween are big Luke, and
they got so many spinoff varieties. Rank these in order
of your preference of greatness. Caramel, peanut, butter, and pretzel.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
So this is an easy one to answer because it's
not like I don't love a chocolate covered pretzel. But
how could any human being think that that is on
par with like a normal Eminem. It's like double chocolate
versus shoving in fucking dried out carbs.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Dude, I love the pretzel ones. I'm gonna say that,
By the way, are you one?

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
No? Not number one?

Speaker 7 (01:40:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
No, no, no number Peanut butter is the best flavor
they ever created. But are you when it comes to
the two basic ones milk chocolate and peanut, which one
do you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Prefer milk chocolate ten times out of ten?

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
All right, I'm with you on that. How are you
ranking these? Can we throw them back up?

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
So peanut Eminem's again, it's like, do I want a
peanut that's got chocolate on it? Sure, but I don't.
I prefer the milk chocolate all the way through. So
peanut butter is of these ones the easiest call. I mean, yes'
just far. It's in the red bag. The red bag.
The red bag is fucking deadly. Bro. Yeah, Caramel, I'll

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go second carmel, depending on how one pronounces it. And
then pretzels. You know, these are things I shit at
Joseph A Bank. It's not that important to me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
No, I agree completely with your rankings on this one.
Let's go to our fifth one worst. You're gonna rank
these from worst to best. Worst intrusive procedures to endure
prostate check, amtrak delays, or see the second, Carla Asparzar
Rosenama units.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
I mean, dude, here is how bad amtrak delays are.
It's like I I would take having I take having
a doctor shove his digits into my rear end to
medically evaluate my prostate. Wow, a fucking away.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
You can say that out loud, that would be That
would be number one on my list the worst thing
that could happen to you in your life.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
I've never had a prostate check.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Have you had one of obsectomy with a Vietnam veterans?

Speaker 8 (01:41:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Right now, I've had a I've not had a prostate check.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Dude, you have for three days and you feel really
bad about yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Do you feel like sexually violated?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Yes? Whereas the whereas the colonoscopy you feel great.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
It's like, hey, let's colonoscopy is nothing. You wake up
like with the best snap you've ever had in your life.
It's absolutely nothing. Here's what you are failing to appreciate. Okay,
put that. Put this back up one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Though choices, yeh, take this down. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Okay. Am track delays. The problem BC is that they
last so fucking long. That's the problem. Here. You can
say pound for pound is a prostate check worse in
every way, like per like on a per minute basis,
What could be worse? You know what I'm saying. It's
just straight up it's straight up prison torture. But the

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time you have to spend if you go for a
I do. I've been going to New York for fifteen
fucking years. Do you know how much time in my
life I have lost?

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Yeah, you should have moved there a decade ago.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Right, It's too expensive. It's too fucking expensive. I don't
want to just give all my money to fucking seven
grand in rent to go live in Jersey City. Fuck that, dude,
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Well, that's true after being there. Look, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Yeah, exactly, So, dude, I want to go in one
and I forget the third one was?

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
What was the third one? Carlon? I mean, as bad
as that was, it only lasts for thirty minutes. Call
it a day. Who gets a shit?

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Okay, here we go, Here we go. Number six. We're
gonna rank from best to worst best morning combat studios,
And to separate these by eras. The first one I'm
gonna say is both the Bomb Shelter and Orchids of Combat,
which is the first era of MK. Number two is
the is the studio we designed ourselves with books, vinyl

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and the RSD couch right in there. And number three
is where we're at these days in Manhattan on Mondays
at Metal Lark.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
So this, well, I mean, here's the thing. Each one's
got a little something to it. The Bomb Shelter or
Orchids of Combat were the raw, early fun days metal Lark,
where we are now absolutely the most consistent, highest level
production work. You know what I mean, we don't have
to hear do you remember how consistently the fans used
to complain quite rightly about the audio, you know, and

(01:43:55):
how what a fucking night. You just don't hear that anymore.
I mean, nothing is perfect, but like relative to how
it was, Middle Arc has completely erased that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
And then of course, you know everyone's gonna be partial
to the one where we won the award in so
I'm probably gonna go something like that. I'm probably gonna
go we had too much freedom with A and B.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
So problem with B. B's the first pick, be's the
best is the first The problem was we weren't there
a lot. If you remember, at the peak of that studio,
we were only going there like once a month and
a half two months, whereas A we were there every
single week.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
It's true, I was in the studio multiple days a week,
and I can just say that was the best studio,
the B the B Yeah, okay, I used to sleep
on that couch, take naps on that couch. I mean, RSD,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
I can't believe a Long Island dirtbag would do something
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
Yeah, the answer here is b AC.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
I think that's right. I would say that the improvement
in the quality at C makes it a little close
to A, but the rawness that we had, because I mean,
the thing is, the thing with Middle Ark is as
good as the studios are in their phenomenal, we have
to share them. They're not ours. Whereas with the Bomb
Shelter and the second one week you basically had to do.
We could do whatever we want with it. And that's
just not the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
S I'm surprise no one's defecated inside that studio.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Now for a lack of effort, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
All right, let's go to number seven here, Best to
worst mma resumes slash legacies Dustin Poorrier, Kamarrow, Usman TJ. Dillashaw,
who has the best to worst combination of resume and legacy?

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Ask him the wrong guy, because the answer for number
one best is clearly Camorrow, right because pound king, Yeah,
I mean he's the seconds, He's the second best welterweight
of all time behind Saint Pierre, and that's quite an achievement.
So it's definitely Camorrow. Now, after that, you have to

(01:45:53):
ask yourself a question. How do you feel about someone
who didn't have a full weight class title, got pretty
close but didn't have a full weight class title versus
somebody who did have a weight class title but then
pop for peds And to what extent you evaluate that?
I will tell you I don't really give a shit
about that, for reasons I articulated at gazillion times. I mean,
it's relevant, but I don't care about it so much

(01:46:15):
I would go. I mean, the thing is, dude, honestly,
I feel like the current fan base just loves Poorier.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
That's a good that's a good legacy, and resume that
a great one, honestly, and better people than many champions.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
So here's the problem, dude. The resume for Dila Shaw
is stronger, I feel like because of the high end
achievement he had. But the legacy of Poortier might honestly
be much better than Dila Shaw's, for because he beat
a bunch of really fucking good guys, and you know,
it doesn't have any of the ped stuff following him.

(01:46:51):
So I might go BAC, even though I kind of
feel like it's BCA. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Interesting, I wondered if you were gonna go a first,
even though obviously he wasn't a champion compared to the
But like Kamara does not, he is not beloved or
does he receive the respect that his accomplishments say he
should agree that's.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
True, But dude, for anyone who's literate, it's not even
a slight to party you. They're not even trying to
be insulting in any way at all. But like, you
gotta give Camaro the credit he deserves. He's the He
was the best fighter in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Yeah, he was the best.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
He was fucking very good in his prime, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
All right. Our final one on oratois these are best
to worst. LTI's preferred Genie Bottle wish you only get
one wish with the bottle. You can get eight hours
of sleep per night moving forward. You can have normal
botwel movements moving forward, or you can trade hogs with Rocco.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Rocco Sefreddi. Is he the one that had the curve joint? No,
that's not Jovi Doll, so uh, that would absolutely be
a no. These are all tempting. Definitely gonna throw out
normal bowel movements because it would just give me less
things to talk about. So that's not one that I wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
You would be a much better house guest if you
had that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Yeah, But I don't care about being a good house guest.
You know what I'm saying, Like I want to have
good house guest or good stories. I'll take good stories
every time, right, Okay, Okay, sorry, Joseph a Bank. Now
the trading hogs with Rocko, I don't know, Like that's
definitely gonna be a fun a fun little thing. However,
i'd say, you know, I'm gonna go on a limit. Say,

(01:48:23):
my wife's probably pretty satisfied for the most part, for you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Know, Okay, I don't know if we needed that breakdown.
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
I'm just saying, it's not like a thing that oh
I'm desperate for, but I am desperate for the eight
hours of sleepy See. That would be the ultimate fucking
life hack. I want the eight hours. So I'm gonna
go A is number one. We'll put C number two,
and then normal ballel moments. You could just take that
off the list completely. I don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
About itay long. Look, could you imagine a well slept,
happy Luke Thomas every episode?

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
I can't even imagine it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
He's like, I literally can't conceive of you as a
well slept person.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
There it is. That was the Orange twall right there.
We're gonna close with our fans segments. Of course, we
offer the email address for you to contact the show
of Morningcombat at gmail dot com for your fan subs
for your dead wrongs. Hey, you want to complain, you
want to accuse us of something, there's your opportunity even
up to an including showing in your privates to Mikey.
So it's available to you at Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

(01:49:26):
Let's go with dead wrongs up first. We don't always
get it right, but at least we have the guts
to stand up to the truth. If you have a
receipt and you got some balls. This one's called dead wrong,
dead wrong. Let's see who took the l Antonio writes,
and he says good night from Portugal. I was just

(01:49:48):
listening to the three twenty one post fight recap show
and at one hour, eighteen minutes and forty seconds, Brian
is dead wrong. Aspinall submitted Volkoff with a straight armbar. Yes,
not a ASBC said, chicken wing or americana.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
So yeah, So the reason why you're halfway. I know
why you said that is because he didn't submit it
with it what's going to call it jujigatami, where the
traditional randa arm bar where it's between your legs. He
did it where he was kind of diagonal, not side control,
but diagonal, and then he straightens the arm out and
then does it where he's kind of bending it with
his own arms in that way. So it's a different

(01:50:25):
kind of arm bar. So I know why you said that,
But technically you're right. It's he's right, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
I'll take that out. I was technically wrong. I couldn't
think of which arm one it was on that point
arm bar, but no along Islan Luke is reporting by
the way that everybody has made weight for UFC warehouse. Okay,
all right. Also a quick update here Luke long is
on Luke reporting that seventy five percent of the chat
has said they like your five scarier punchers better than mine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Yeah. Unfortunately, though I went first, so BC could only
pick what was available outside of what I picked. But
I do feel like my list is good. Yes, yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Our second Dead Wrong comes to us from Christopher, who says, hey,
I'm a longtime listener here, first time submission for dead Wrong.
On the October sixth episode, reviewing UFC three twenty at
one hour and five minutes, BC said, YERI had now
improved to eight and oh against everyone in the UFC
not named Alex Pajeda, you are dead wrong. YERI has

(01:51:24):
eight fights in the UFC and is six and oh
in the UFC when not facing Poeton. This seems like
something very easy to review if one is not stuffing
his face with gas station hot dogs and looking like
the inverse of a Ladies' Night version of Carlos Olberg.
If I could suggest an excuse, BC, just say your

(01:51:45):
eye was looking away from the fact from that fact
on your timeline like you're Vienna Jandidoba and you confuse
this the six for an eight. I do have bad eyes,
say hey, BC, next time, let's be more focused on
the show prep than keeping track of the Instagram followers
for the number nine and eleven ranks. Strawweights Wow in
the Apex Comain event. Keep coming with low with bits

(01:52:09):
every show, sorry, not loads as they make my I
got as they make my day listening to me see
I can't read, but yeah, I'll take the l from
Christopher right there? Oh for two this week, Luke wow,
all right? Our third one comes from Joel Hey Luken BC,
longtime fan, longtime listener, also a nerdy lawyer here, Luke,
you're dead wrong when you say quote a cumulative damage.

(01:52:30):
The correct word is cumulative, not a cumulative. Cumulative equals
damage that builds up by successive additions. Dictionary dot com
describes cumulative as increasing by successive additions formed by accu accumulation.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
That is what happens when Steady jabs, body shots and
calf kicks out up until the opponent breaks down. But
accumulative with an A is a real word, but far
less common. It just means tending to accumulate. Merriam Webster
lists cumulative as the standard word for something resulting from
many additions, while accumulative is listed as a secondary option.

(01:53:11):
Style guides consistently note that cumulative is the correct choice
in this context. In short, a fighter wins by cumulative damage,
not accumulative damage. Don't feel bad, Luke, You've only been
making this mistake consistently for years, displaying your ignorance on
possibly thousands of occasions. Consider it a true masterclass in
cumulative error. Respectfully and with love for the show.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Joel wa, why don't you cumulatively put some licks on
my balls?

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
So look, he's saying that you're not completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Yeah, but I'm not like the way it works in
this kind of world where like what's the most correct option?
And it sounds like what he's saying is the most
correct option.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
So okay, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
That is so wide, you guess I have to take
that out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
Wow. We had a lot of else today. This one's
from an Andrew during have you seen this Shit? On Monday,
BC showed the video of the guy putting the chicken
roller on the hot dogs bun in seven eleven with
Chili and cheese. He said it was seven eleven over
and over again. You would think that someone who has
eaten so many gas station hot dogs in his life
would know what seven to eleven looks like. Guess black
liver affects the brain too. This was clearly a quick trip.

(01:54:22):
Is the name of the store down south? Probably the
Atlanta area. Luke should have known better. There's like five
of them within ten miles of the Big Chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Hey, you know what I think about Atlanta. I don't
fuck Atlanta. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Oh and their chipolte sauce is fantastic. That's Andrew Lay
giving Lukey a second. A second l Number five comes
from luke H and Kevin. Luke H writes Greetings from
the Welsh Valleys LTNBC on Friday the seventeenth, at thirty
seven minutes, LT was recanting a list of Kevin Holland's fights,

(01:54:55):
where he brought up one eighty five. LT's aim was
to compare Holland's success at one seventy versus his failures
of a lack of effort at eighty five and the
full list at eighty five. LT states Jack Dela Madelena
as one of these fights where Holland was drummed out
by a heavier guy lt. I've added evidence of this fight,
which was on September sixteenth, twenty twenty three, at one

(01:55:17):
seventy that's welts weight. Not only that about was a
split decision. I would suggest you should reduce your consumption
of carbonated caffeinated brain rot and instead look to improve
your memory retention by reading high level.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
I don't I have to go back and listen. I've
never internalized that fight as a middleweight fight, but more
there was a turning point after it, but I never
I've never ever thought JDM was a middleweight, So it
depends on how I articulated it. I'll i'll be grudgingly
accept as l.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Yeah, you lose three to two on today's LS. He
closes by saying that you should read high level publications
such as the PhD thesis of doctor Mike Israetel.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
Is retel is retel with Love from.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
The Valleys a similarly washed dat it's luke h.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
So Mike is retel BC is a wildly successful or
was anyway kind of a proprietor of fitness content?

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
Is he a grifter on the moneyberg level?

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
No, no, but someone read his PhD and then audited it,
and it's like the worst PhD you've ever seen in
thesis in your fucking life.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
All right, as worse as these face tattoos.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Luke, it's the equivalent, Okay, PhD equivalent.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Our final segment is called the Opportunity, where you can
put Saul's wife in one of our t shirts or
send us your artwork. This one's called Fans Admissions. You've
got mail futures, alrighty. Our first fan sub comes from Kyle,
who says, huge fan here listening since twenty twenty, every

(01:57:00):
single show just sat for eighteen hours across two days
for this tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
People.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
Holy shit, it's not fully finished. The gaps will be
filled in with white and blue, but I needed a
few weeks. Break rate it, please from one.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
To ten again.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
I wouldn't want this tattoo, not that I have anything
negative to say about it. It's just not for me.
But in terms of just pure raw tattooing, that is fantastic.
It's black and gray, but then you got these really
bold lightning and blue eyes as you can see in
the one on the bottom. I don't know how that
squares with the kind of Pacific Islander tattooing on the

(01:57:38):
right leg. But again, if we're just evaluating the left BC,
I mean tattooing basically basically doesn't get much better. That
is very, very very high quality work.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Well done there, Kyle. I'll give it a eight out
of ten, Luke, Okay, right. Our second fan su comes
from Girard, who says the main card minute sighting while
seeing Cannibal Corps with Municipal Waste, that the Huntington Paramount
in Long Island got a picture of this sticker in
the bathroom. I watched the show, I look at that.

(01:58:14):
I haven't missed one in four years. Thanks for all
the good work Long Island, Luke. You gotta fess up,
was that you? Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
I love everything about this because I've put up so
many of these fucking stickers all over the not the world,
but you know everywhere, especially in Huntington. And yes, the
Paramount men's bathroom is littered with these stickers. Shout out Gerard.
He saw a fucking cannibal corpse the same weekend I
saw Ever Clear too, So that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Look, do you like the band municipal waste that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
Gerard saw not a not a. They're not for me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
Okay. Do they do Viking rows or not?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Not that I'm aware of, but okay, who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Thank you Gerard for sending it in. We also heard
from Jonas this week, who has a video.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
All right, enough of this conversation. We should watch porn.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Uh yeah, that's that's the show.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
And I had to go hat in hand back to Comcast.
Did I tell you this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
With your gross search history and be like, can you
fix this please?

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
It's like, guys, I know that this is really the
kind of porn searching that really makes you question your
own morality. But uh no, I'm serious. I had to
go fucking back to them, bro, because I the Verizon thing.
I just don't know what to do, so.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Bitch, yeah, that's what you get for shopping around. You
should stay loyal.

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
Yeah, listen, I'm a loyal Rising customer for my cell phone.
They're great. I love them, but I gotta get go.
I need some extra help. I'll just put it that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Way, okay, okay. Our final fancy admission comes from a
man named John, who says, Luke, I was trying to
talk MMA, but I know what was really on Luke's mind.
Let's see this.

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
Okay, mechanics on the paint brush the Americana were real bad,
which is why it didn't work. Because if the elbow
comes up, there's nothing really torking it. It has to the
elbow comes up, there's nothing really torking it. It has
to be really torking it. It has to come really torking.
It has to come talking, it has to come.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
All right, that's probably also accurate. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
What's this?

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
This is also from John who puts yeah, yeah, that
is uh, that is what we do here unfortunately on
Mondays there, so check out my ship on Mondays. Thank you,
thank you very much. Uh, that's it. That's all we
got for fansoms. You can reach back out to us
in Morning Combat at gmail dot com and we'll take
your submissions for next week. Thank you very much. November

(02:00:45):
thirteenth is a I believe a Wednesday will be hitting
you with UFC three twenty two pregame preview. Don't forget
that Thursday or wild willis joining us. What was that
long island?

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
It's Thursday.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
It's a Thursday.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
We'll be there yeah earlier too.

Speaker 3 (02:00:59):
Oh that I think that's November thirteenth. Yeah, yeah, that's
a Thursday, my bad at eleven am, November thirteenth. Set
your watch by it. Finally, this is your last chance
to get our October exclusives over at Morningcombat dot shop. Yeah,
we're talking about super washed dads. We're talking about this
great Halloween crossover here of Frank and Luke and Donkey.
Get a sign poster, Get the T shirt. It's leaving

(02:01:21):
our website. You'll never see it again unless it's on
one of your significant others. Also mix and match colors
because you can go to our Evergreen section. There's probably
some shirts and mugs and baby bibs in there that
you didn't even know we had. I probably don't even
know we have it. We may sell MK MK rubbers.
I have no idea do we.

Speaker 4 (02:01:40):
MK We sold K We're just sold out right now.
We normally have them, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
Because we definitely got that MK jerkins here. Okay, I
threw away why Luca's you could use it's a use
for it, right?

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Oh well, I wasn't. It was just sitting on my
on my sink. I was like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
You know, Long Island, Luke and I get the feeling that,
you know, whatever you get as a gift from fans
of this show goes just right in the garbage.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
Well, I've literally got the dimebag here, Like, what are
we talking about? Show my full screen.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Low al, I was talking about that, MK Jerkins, that's
a keepsake for.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
Life, dude, that was from rich duncle. Fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
Oh yeah, remember that's from.

Speaker 1 (02:02:22):
I mean, why am I going to keep that?

Speaker 3 (02:02:24):
That's not that's a fair points fair.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
That's not a gift from the audience. That's a you
see look at me, Look at you fucking slandering me
falsely in front of the audience. I keep everything that
I get from the audience.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
It wasn't you, It wasn't your co host. You said
that it was too cheesy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
Yeah, too cheesy. Needs to go to too sleep, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
We we thank you for watching this program. Uh are
you going to do a live show Luke this weekend?
They can follow your social media?

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Can you imagine a bigger waste of life than doing that?

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Right now, let's talk further.

Speaker 4 (02:02:57):
It feels like a good segue. I'll be live for
the Full Guard tomorrow for PM two. Also, guys, how.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Can you justify that to your girlfriend. I'm being dead serious.

Speaker 4 (02:03:08):
No, she's working. We're good. Also, new prop quiz dropping
in twenty five minutes, we got the much anticipated matchup
Aaron Bronstead are taking on Ben the Bain Davis.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
Oh I bet Ben gets smoked.

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
No, it's actually like a really good matchup all the
way through, so definitely too okay.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
And then the winner faces the winner of another matchup,
and then the winner faces me for like Sledo's entire
savings account.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
Right, yeah, so the so winner of this episode will
face winner of Danny Sigura versus Jose Young's winner of that,
we'll get one hundred dollars. Then they face BC for
twenty dollars championship matchup.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
You know, not a bat Wait, how was this championship met?

Speaker 4 (02:03:44):
Like this is like a super Fu champion because it's
a one off matchup, whereas the bracket you gotta win twenty. Yeah,
you gotta win three matchups and win one hundred and
one to win twenty. It makes sense to me, It
makes sense right well now read shoutout Slato and Eli
Steele for both.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
Hey, either way, you know what I'm saying. Thank you Slito,
Thank you so much. All right, lt anything you want
to say as you head out to be a hashtag
girl dad on the streets of DC.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
I'm gonna make the I'm gonna make the Hawaiian Hawaiian
I saying Halloween rum punch. I'm gonna make that this afternoon,
and then I'm going to try to be a good dad.
We'll see how that goes.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
All comments made today, we're in. Uh, we're made by
too cheesy, so deal with it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:30):
That's a Leah joke. That was that won't caught me
by surprise.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
Yeah, that was peak MK. I mean it was just,
you know, one of the best moments ever for my
great cat, Reggie Jackson, for Luke Thomas, Long Island, Luke,
you know, and the great people behind the scenes. Yeah,
I see you, Matt Snyder, everyone here. I want to
close this by telling you, of course, that this episode
of Morning Combat was brought to you by DraftKings. Hey, DraftKings,
the crown is yours, baby, Thank you for watching. Enjoy

(02:04:58):
the weekend safety night out with the kiddos. Uh, take
care of yourselves up here down here too, if you
can get I mean, if you can you know, he
might have to write it's just so it's just so true, though,
uh Yo we out of this piece

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