UFC 322 Pregame Preview: Della Maddalena vs. Makhachev Presented By Cuervo® | Morning Kombat - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 4 (04:50):
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That's just the earth around me, all right. In fact,
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Or sip in on some scissor.

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Speaker 2 (05:32):
Luke Warren, we always salute.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
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Speaker 1 (06:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
All right, this is how we started.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
This is how we started. This is how we started.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
UFC three twenty two.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
It ain't two five, it ain't two seventeen, but for
the modern day standards for twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Five matchmaking, it's pretty damn awesome.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
And we always start this part with a letter grade
of quality to cards top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
What are you giving it?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
As Dana White says, you can't judge the content.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Actually, I think it's like you said, in this year
of MMA, this is about as good as it gets.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think it's the best card of the year. I'm
going to give it a b.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh, well, your mind get out? Is this at least
an A? Right in this?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Here?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Go on there, I'll give it a.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, it's an A. All right? I mean today, I mean,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean, would you accept a cups on a blind
ed what?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Here's here's the two things I have become Okay, here's
the two things that this card is missing. Number one,
it's missing a superstar, That's what I was thinking. It
definitely doesn't have that. And number two, it doesn't really
have rivalry.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Right, No, Bud there's buzz off of the history at Steak,
but there's no buzz off of the mind.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
The fights themselves are massively consequential, like even the non
title ones like Bradie Morales is an important fight. Lee
if you lose this one, he's in deep shit against protests,
like there's big stakes, but nobody is like at there
wasn't like how would you describe the rivalry between Connor
and Eddie. It wasn't like they had a long standing rivalry,
but it was hot. But he was on a march

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and that was the final boss essentially of that march,
so it carried not just steakes, but you know he
was in his face about it too.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
I feel as as well Connor because of the way
he used to speak, right, he added stakes to his
own fights because Islam's kind of understated and does say
a lot. If Islam loses, I don't think it really
affects his legacy necessarily, But if Connor had lost moving
up to lightweight after all the shitt he talked, it
would be like a massive blow to what he had created.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So I think to your point, I think the Whites.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Themselves are incredibly competitive, exciting, but the narrative around them
isn't quite.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
What's the It's it's been a little quiet this week,
don't you feel like?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes? But I do think it'll heat up as we
get closer.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I think I have one thing I want to add
to that. I looked up this week what the UFC
two of five media schedule was, and it wasn't much different.
But except on that Wednesday, there were two things that
were different. That Wednesday morning wasn't sposored by V Chain.
It wasn't sponsored by V Chain. That Wednesday morning, on
the floor of the of the basketball court, they had

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Connor and Eddie and everyone else work out with the
fans there and attendance, and then in the afternoon that's
when they did the ultimate media day. So Habib was there.
I remember he looked like shit when he was cutting weight.
I remember James Vick was on that car and if
I not remember, or maybe he was two seventeen, I
can't remember. But in any case, it was a bigger
day Wednesday, so kind of the story of it got
going a little bit earlier. Plus, you know, they put

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out that triumphant video. Did you guys see it? We
circulated this week. Emma on points shared it about like
kind of taking Madison Square Garden in this moment in history.
It had a big the UFC itself had a narrative
heading into that week, whereas this week that is also missing.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
But I feel like it's better than some of the
recent MSG cards for like, oh shit, I do have
to see this feeling.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Quality of fights. It's very very high.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I mean, the sport's deepest division has three fights in
the main card alone, including the main event title which
has the history around it, love it, and maybe in
the Cole main event, which is so historically unique and strong.
You have two of the classiest fighters as well. So
it's going to be more about the craft than the
noise in the nonsense there. But as we close in

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and prepare to break down this main event, reminder of
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All right, let's get into this main event here, guys.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
So much history at stake as Islam Mahachev looks to
become the eleventh or the twelfth.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Should Way Lee.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Jeong do it in the fight before him? Two division
champion in UFC history and one firm step closer to
immortality and really being considered among the true greats of
this game. If he also equals Anderson Silva's UFC record
of sixteen consecutive victories, it won't be easy, of course,
because making his first title defense at one seventy is
the boxing skill set and the crooked nose of one.

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Jack Della Maddalena, Guys, I love this fight. I do
love to try to attach some you know, podcaster journalistic
extras to this, to play up the hype of it.
I'm gonna ask you straight up, Luke, how close or
is this the fight that Islam is a more accomplished
and has a fighter and has a better legacy than
his great teammate have Eeben Rokomto.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, I think if you well, I mean the problem
is again, I've made this point a couple of times.
Habib is distinct in a couple of ways. One he
never lost on his h and then two, this is
the big one that folks forget, either symbolically or even
just more realistically, but a little bit of both he
was the vanguard of all the Russians taking over. He
was the tip of that spear. And you know, the

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movement that he was a part of and led changed
the sport. I mean, the guys who came in from
his team and then after that, they all just ran
the table, not all of them being Sombo, but a
lot of them being you know, sort of aligned with
the best practices that Habib and his team had developed.
Islam can never be that. He will always live in
that shadow. But I'm sorry if you go up to

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seventy and I don't know if he'll flattened delamtal Aa,
but let's say for the sake of argument, that he does.
This is a level of accomplishment that Habib simply did
not reach. Yes, and you have to respect what it
means to go up and wait. And again, I want
to remind something, how old is delametal a Ina twenty nine,
twenty eight. Islam is thirty four. I mean, he's not
exactly a spring chick. He's not over the hill by
any stretch, but he's not he's not young. And now

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he's moving up in wait in this advanced age like
that is absolutely to me what win does Habib have
that's better than that single win. The Connor win is bigger, sure,
but in terms of what it means to do that,
he doesn't have a win.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
If you look at the stats.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Abib retired five years ago at age thirty two, at
twenty nine and zero Mahchev twenty seven in one fifteen
fight win streak since the first round knockout loss to
Adriana Martinz in twenty fifteen, I mean twenty seven and
one overall, and he can equal Silver's record. He can
become a two division champion, and he already owns the
lightweight record of title.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Defenses with four.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
It took a while for him to get big names Oscar,
but once he got him, he had a Habib like run,
maybe even longer. You know the run that Hibbie had
to close where he submitted McGregor, Pourrier and Gaiechee in succession.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
There.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Do you think this win puts him past?

Speaker 6 (14:46):
I think going back to next point, obviously, Kabebe was
the first one, right, and you're always going to struggle
to overtake the first one. But I always one of
the sort of shout as you can put.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
On Kabeb's careers. He never wanted.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
He never even flirted with going up in wait. Actually,
when they talked about the George Saint Pierre thing. When
they talked about the George Saint Pierre, think he wanted
George to come down to fifty five, like Kabib.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Did not want to challenge himself at a higher weight class.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You were the best at lightweight, so that's fair enough.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
I think also one thing that fighters need in this
sport is a rival, right, Connor and Kabeb had each other,
and that's what kinda had, like fucking thirty two rivals.
But I think Kabeb had Connor and that sort of
elevated him. If Islam could find a rival, which could
be in the form of media suporia.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Or soar uk and if you can get in the
cage with him, but that seemed to have that chip
has sale there.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Let's get through Dan Hooker first.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Yeah, but I think I think if Islam could find
a guy in a dance partner that made a fight
big and elevated, that could be the thing that finally
gets him out of the shadow.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Could be.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
But to Luke's point, I think you're always going to
struggle getting past the first one. In terms of the
Anderson Silver record being equaled. I don't know why it feels.
Maybe it's nostalgia that Anderson's feels cooler and more special,
But actually, if you look at the names and stuff,
you know, beating Alexando Volkanovsky is a massive achieve in
Dustin point, a massive achievement. And if you look at

(16:05):
Addison's streak, maybe not comfortable names on that.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
So yeah, I mean, and to pump up Maha, you
have more.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
He's got a decision went over Sarayukin, but he's got
stoppage wins over the names you're talking about OLIVERA.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Volkanovsky.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
For what made Anderson different was that it was two things. One,
he was the first. I mean John Jones was doing
stuff like that too, but he was also having problems
at the time, so like it's it was sort of well,
I mean serious, it was kind of stop and go,
stop and go, stop and go. But the thing was
like Anderson was really the first guy at a superstar level,
because again Demetrius is doing some things at a similar timeline,
but like he was doing this incredibly long winning streak.

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And then also remember he was like changing the game
where he was one of the first guys to stance
switch and then intercept Griffin as he moved into him.
I had I had a guy I worked at the
local radio station at the time, one of six to
seventh the fan, and one of the guys who worked
there and moved to the area was like, show me MMA.
And it was the Anderson Selva Vitor belfour fight, which,

(17:00):
if you don't recall the whole card, was not necessarily
that great, and then Silva front kicks him in the face,
which at that point no one had ever done. It
felt like Silva was changing the way you could understand
what MMA even was versus compiling very solid, I mean
even more solid, really great wins. They're hard to compare
as equal things. It'll mean the same.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Also, Islam's a more complete fighter than him.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So I just think this, like even even Javier Mendez
will tell you that, right.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
And I interviewed Islam yesterday at Media Data one on
one with him, and obviously, as you'd expect, he's humble.
He not only does not want to entertain any thoughts
of being compared to Bibor or who's better. He's like,
that's not even in our DNA where brothers we help
each other. That's all we've ever done. But not only
is that four pack if you put the brothers Usman
and Umar together one of the most impressive sort of families.

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If we consider Mahachev part of this family, we can't.
I don't think you can go any further without you know, saying,
what's that stake here for Mahachev and what he is
close to accomplishing? But will he get there depends upon
Jack Della Maddelane a Long Island, Luke, could you give
us the f king z odds at this.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Moment for the main event?

Speaker 7 (18:02):
I think it was minus two seventy Islam plus two
thirty j DM, Okay, what.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Is your what is your Aussie down under bag tickle?
In terms of thinking m I.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Hate yeah, his dad I recognized generously.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
I hate to admit it, but I've been knocking JDM
on like every chance I got this week. Not knocking him,
just I feel like people are slipping sleeping on Islam
forgetting he's probably number one pound per pound in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I feel like this is.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Okay, here's what's interesting. I don't need to cut you
off long on look you're still part of this. You
were at media day yesterday.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, that's right with the peasants, he was, Yeah, Look,
tell me if you can corroborate this.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Both Carlos Proctest and Sean Brady told me with a
matter of fact tone, that JDM beats Islam on set.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
I think, actually, if you look at the way the
action of this buddy is a lot of fans are
picking Islam, but it seems like most of the fight
is YEA nating Jack. Whether that's because they put a
lot of steak in the weights difference or something like that,
or if they just recognize Jack is a very talent
guy and could be we don't know, it could be
the next stage of evolution in m m A.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Well, let's give him as props. He came to the
title under not normal conditions, meaning that he was hurt.
He he was laid off for a while, but when
Shavcock got injured, he slipped in there got the chance against.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Remember he was supposed to fight Leon on that card, yes,
and they all switched it up.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
And then when given the shot, he stuffs all the
takedowns in the first three rounds against Ballal only gives
up three out of five takedowns in the final two
rounds out boxes him, wins it legitimately. But what Sean
Brady said specifically and looke you follow the technique close
not just of the tatted ass cheeks, but of the ground.
Sewn said he had a camp with Jack and the
biggest thing was his awkwardness on the feet, mixed with

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the fact that he gets up consistently strammed down. Yes,
you got Craig Jones in the corner, you got Volkanovsky
lending his experience as a you know, to the coaching
staff as well. Is is the media, are the fans?
Are the odds makers overlooking what really Jack has the
opportunity to.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, I don't It's this is a I gotta
be honest. This is a really tough one for me too.
I'm with him, Like, I feel like people are just
completely disrespecting Islam. But then when you really do that.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't think they are.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Sorry, Sorry, I'm sorry the fighters, the fighters, people who
don't believe in Islam seem like, yeah, there's just not
enough recognition of all the things he can do in
the ways in which he can just dig out opportunities
to win. But then when you go, when you just
start inventoring all the things Jack's good at, especially dude,
he leveled up big in that Ballah Mohamed fight because

(20:30):
one of the things that he pointed out was before
he'd get taken down, he could scramble his way back
up and take him a minute, but he could do it.
But in the Ballall fight, with the added wrinkle was
he was stopping to take down at the point of entry,
right and so yes, later on he had to get
up so he could do both things or he'd get
pressed against the fence. Craig Jones Special he tried judo
trip on the hiragushi's or whatever just to create enough
space and then he could underhook and then screate, So

(20:53):
like he was adding extra layers of defense in ways
that he didn't have before. And he was already formidable.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And he's physical, and he's tough as nails.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
And he's physical, he's not he's not super beat up
in his career either.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Great gas tank as well, by the way, keep going
and he never accepts position. That's the thing I noticed
most in the blow fight is like when the takedowns came,
he would immediately start working to try.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
And get up and separate.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
I think a lot of times when the restlers have success,
it's because the other guy is concerned about their cardio,
accepts position, maybe goes into full guard and stuff like that.
Jack does not do that. He reminds me of Jose Aldo,
where it's like fucking go to work right away.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
He's breaking the hands immediately straight away. Yeah. And also
the part too is he gets up in different ways.
He doesn't just underhook, post on a hand, sit the button,
you know what I mean. Like he's got a variety
of tools to wrestle back up. I mean. But the
thing is, it's fucking Islam forgot. If you rolled the turtle,
it's over for you. It's over. He's ticking your back,

(21:50):
or you're going to sleep with the doors or short
arm arms.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
He can knock geut with kicks, he can out box you,
he can do a lot of things.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Islam is good, but that I think, as you said
earlier from Shore Brady, Jack's.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Also very good, but awkward.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Right. I went back and watched some of the clips
from the blow fight earlier. He's throwing like if you
if you showed him to a boxing fan and said
this is the best box right ever made. They would
go his boxing get ship because he's like very loopy
and white. But the awkward angles that I think catches
guys off guarden that's not DDP.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's great, right, he does a lot of awkward shit
like that.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
He's more awkward.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's yeah, we don't use that word.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I realized as I was halfway through it, sir.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
And when I mentioned it was a non traditional path,
we didn't get to see Jack be a certain level
of high level contenders that we would that would be prerequisite.
He rallied to knockout in old Gilbert Burns, who would
then go on a losing streak. But he had back
to back split decision wins before that, including that last
minute one against Russell Hoffe.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, where he just he didn't look like a million bucks.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I mean, but that was like last minute notice. And
that dude is just a kind of a I mean,
he's he's not on the level per se, but he's
good and he's physical.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Shit.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
It's a set up to say when he was given
the opportunity, it's shown through who he really is. But
it's crazy that This is the deepest division with a
huge Bottlenecker top, which is only made worse by shov
cuts delay in layoffs due to injury. But you have
the guy who I don't want to say did nerd it,
but had a long, you know, a quick path to
get there against the guy coming up from the other division.

(23:22):
But this is sort of the power division of the sport,
and this main event could end up being an absolute banger.
Just could just could be physical and fun and crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
I said, I don't.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
I mean, you hate to sort of jinx it, but
I don't see away. The fight's dull, you know, and
the two of them, their styles, their physicality. As he
pointed out, I think for however long it lasts, it'll
be a very sort of high level. You know, everyone
talks about the Vulk fight with Islam as like the
highest example of skilled mma, right, I think this one
could equal that.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I think Jacket is not.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
This could be a very high level, exciting fight with
a lot of steaks. Looking the women, by the way,
for sure, I know you're a big supporter, na.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm an athletic supporter of the women.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, you've got on an athletic.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
All right, staying with you, the one he buys all
the like used clothing off No, no, no, never never.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I don't subscribe to any only fans and never have and.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
You just steal.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Speaking back to the actual fight at stake here in
this fantastic matchup, uh, when we talk about the idea
that Dustin Poorrie to have success striking laid against Islam,
does that mean Jack will have big moments of success
And is Jack's advantage in striking enough that he could

(24:39):
actually control the fight with it, or are we again
overlooking Islam's timing? Is everything like, he's accurate as shit,
He's got great defense.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think that, honestly. To answer the question, I don't
really know. I honestly believe the most important question is
to what extent can Islam get the takedown, disrupt Jack's
rhythm or more importantly, hold him against the fence and
not just to even take him down, get him to
a knee so then he can wrap the outside leg

(25:09):
and then he can just start working where yes, Jack's
good at wrestling up, but at a bare minimum, he
just can't get offense going from there. And it just
allows him to do that. The striking component I've said
this before. I'm just gonna maintain it. I just feel like,
as long as it's a striking about Islam is not
shitty at striking at all. But he's not on Jack's
fucking level. He's just not. And I don't think he's
gonna have the physical even if he's up you know,

(25:31):
the weight class, and he's more naturally suited for this,
especially at age thirty four. Jack is big.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I talked to Islam about adding the weight and he
said the difference is he didn't just.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Eat a lot more and put on muscle. I mean,
he's jacked.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
We're seeing him in these training photos. I saw him
person he's Jack. I saw the John Pork guy too,
from the contender say.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I took a picture with him and I took him.
The first question I asked Islam when from my interview
was where's John Pork? And He's like, he's right there.
We took a picture together. It was great. I can
show it later.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's journalism.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It was a pretty in my life. But Islam said,
look ten months lay off.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
He said it's the longest since twenty twenty when he
missed eighteen months due to injuries and COVID travel issues.
He said in that ten months took he tried to
take time off. It didn't last a week. He was
already back in training. So he's been putting on the
weight incrementally. He claims everybody's going to claim it before
that it won't affect his speed, his power, whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Do you expect this not to be a topic.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I believe it won't necessarily affect his speed and power.
But it's cardio I certainly have questions about because if
you look at islam fifth round against Volkanovski clearly slowed down.
Volkanowski got to work on him against Dustin. I felt
that Islam slowed down towards later rounds. If Islam's cardio
already is somewhat of a question, not really, But let's
say it is for the fourth or fifth round and

(26:46):
he's unnaturally carrying this extra weight. I could see that
being a real problem against a guy like Jack, who
apparently doesn't slow down and in fact can turn it
on later. So that to me is where the conversation
of his weight will like.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
But don't you think he had a cardio issue a
fifty five because of the cut.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
No, really, I think he's just got a very high
paced and high output style, you know, Like, I think
he's just very aggressive, and I think some people, you.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Know, it's hard to do that for twenty five minutes.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Sure, all right, he's claiming that he talked about it
last week that at lightweight, because of the weight cut,
we were only saying seventy to eighty percent of his greatness.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Do you expect to see which happens sometimes.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
When guys switch away classes, they just get that surge,
they get that extra level of strength ability, maybe even
gas tank.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, the other part two is you're managing more weight,
you're moving more weight around.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
So this thing looks fucking huge.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, he looks huge, dude, he looks real big.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I think his gas tank will be better unless Jack
makes it a point to go to the body, which
could be interesting if you see him just kind of
depositing uppercuts down there, which he likes to do. What
she likes to do, will show knees up the middle too.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He's well coached and smart. Jack's not just some bushwick
brawler like. He's smart.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
He'll put hands here and then wait for you, and
then he'll fucking dig one.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
But shout out to Bushwick Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Bushwick, Bill Bushwick, motherfucker Bill. Okay, that's what they used
to call him right there. Yeah, I put respect on
Jack's name. But will we actually see a fight here?
Here's the question I asked Islam, what would abdulman app
to your late coach say about this matchup? He went, oh,
he goes, he would tell me, And it's obviously not
a secret. You have the wrestling advantage, take him down,

(28:19):
don't risk getting hurt, control him there, win the fight.
And I'm like, okay, you're gonna do that, and he's
just like, brother, I'm prepared for anything.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
We just saw on a big title fight.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Shamayah kind of do what coach Abdoman app even though
it wasn't his coach would have wanted late on DVP.
Didn't worry about trying to finish him, beat him up
a little, but just kept that pressure on.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Turns out if his life and death. If you win
the belt, you're gonna be really cootious enough fight. But
Jack is also not going to be easy to do
that too.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But can Islam do that? Is that in play?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I think the reality is if you try and pancake
Jack on top chest to chest, He's going to be
much much, much, much fucking harder to hold down. I
think you have to get to the back, I honestly
believe that, or bring him down to a knee on
the back some something like that where you know, crab

(29:09):
ride from the back, pulling him off of his base,
but you know, making him work from that position. Not
and not by the way, if you're on the back,
not going to your own back and bringing his way?
Why why are you smiling like that?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm just really happy. I just love being here.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's great. What's wrong with you just.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Enjoying this at this moment? I just had another shout
out Tequila blanco. It's you know, it's a good time.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
What I'm trying, what I'm trying to make is if
you look at if you look at a lot of
the get ups, some of them come from Turtle, but
they were like reversed into those positions, whereas Islam and
Habib setting the tone tend to be very very good
from there. I think that's the key. You have to
get behind his elbows to the waist, take him down
to the mat, and then begin to work an offensive
sequels from there.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
The other thing I brought up to Islam was something
that you had said on Monday. That's because that was
becoming a narrative, the idea that hey, maybe Islam at
thirty four, when's the title, takes one more or gets
the Taporia fight and then retires.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He said no directly to that.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
He said, in fact, not only have I had ten
months off and I've put on the weight the right way,
he says, because I don't have to take these weight
cuts hard anymore, I'll be able to fight more often,
he said, he is. There's no definitive timetable. He's gonna
fight for as.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Long, you know, yeah, unless he gets stretched here right.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Everyone's at this age's two consecutive defeats from retiring.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
But that was interesting as well. He's here for a
good time and a long time ultimately. But will he
get it done?

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Long Island, Luke, are you backing, because if someone's from
Long Island or down under Long Island, Luke's gonna pick
him right here.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
What do you got, I'm gonna throw in the Australian
parlay of Cody hat In, Jack Della Madeline, I think
you just gotta But like truthfully, I think Islam's gonna
win this and I think he's gonna win it in
under three rounds.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Wow, Wow, Wow, Oscar Willis put your money where your
mouth is where things have been.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Oh as a man with a deviate set TI might
have to recognize Jackson scale and I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Do you see them asking about Jack's nose at the
media day yesterday?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
It was it wasn't nice asked him about his nose?
Was there some great mystery? So?

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Uh, it was the before the blow fight just went
viral again. Actually Bond showing me his DM. He's getting
a lot of abuse, which I enjoy very much. But
he he asked Jackie went, you know, if you went
a great fight here, you'll get more money.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Can you get your nose fixed?

Speaker 6 (31:26):
And uh, he asked Jack if he's gonna get his
nose fixed?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
And Jack was quite clearly piste off.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh I did see that one.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know I've got one of those noses too, you know,
so I know I know.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Sean Brady's got one of those nose. You get two
guys on the same division with the whole ship, but people,
but Jackson's Jaxon's really bad. But if you ask these guys,
it's the same answer, which is, why the funk would
you fix it if it's just gonna get shattered.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
People think I'm like a like an ex fighter, like
an ex.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Absolutely not a soul on her.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
When I started doing boxing broadcasting, yeah, a lot of
people like, yo, your next amateur, your money.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So I had the equivalent of I give him a
back of Cheetos. I had the equivalent of elephant or
not elephant.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Ear, elephant ear yeah, yeah you're sober, Yeah, athlete.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I had the equivalent of that.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
But you know, normally I haven't my toes like I
feel like a man's toes should show the journey that
they've walked.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know what I mean. You've never given the elephant
ears to something?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Wow, you know the elephant ears are I was talking
pockets inside.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I was talking more about the cauliflower here. Obviously that's
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's a bad By the way, I showed took califlower
ear and now she's horrified.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Of course, don't bring Uncle Sean over.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
By the way, Sean Brady loved the guy said he
still listens to every single episode.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
By talking Sean Brady, do you think that was sad?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Do you think he's pissed that I was mad after
he lost the ball, because I was mad.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
It's fucking mad as me.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
I was furious why you would have had to got
it tattoo if he won that fight.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
You're right, So I got away from not having a tattoo,
although it would have come with morning combat cameras while
we got tacos in Philly.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So that's that would have been cool. Hey, let me
ask us real quick, because you didn't bring it up totally,
which is the Craig Jones effect. So and it's not
just Craig Jones, because I think you indicated it's Volkanovsky too.
Thought Islam twice kind of one and a half really
but basically fought him for about six rounds. And Craig
Jones has dealt with and I think I was talking
to Craig. This is his ninth championship camp. He's been

(33:30):
in something insane. He hates it, he hates it, but
he he certainly knows Islam really really well. To what
extent in real terms you think Craig has been. Craig
is obviously helpful. How helpful?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So listen.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Obviously I've got a good relationship with Craig so didn't
want to cover across two bias here, and Islam made
the point like you can't learn a lot from just
like one or two camps, you know. But I think
craig creativity with someone as young as Jack. You see
improvements off Jack every fight. It's like but drastic improvements.
And I think the guy who fought Blal is completely
different than the guy we'd seen before that. And I

(34:06):
do think in terms of his scrambles. Uh so, I
saw they're talking about my process befriended many hookers, not
just did, but in terms of like his scrambles and
alluding to that awkwardness as we did earlier, that is Craig.
Craig is a creative, scramly guy. And I think a
lot of people underestimate Craig because of, you know, his
degeneracy and his shit whole.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Lifestyle, that he's actually very switched on.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Like I know, when he goes into these camps, he
has masses of video footage broken down into slow mo
that he shows the guys he's working with and says,
this is what he does, these are his tendencies. I
know he did that with Aspen or when he went
over there as well. He actually does break it down.
He is very serious about the jiu jitsu when it
comes into camp. So I think, listen, is he gonna
just turn anyone into a winner? Not necessarily, but is

(34:51):
he an X factor that can help you get an
edge in certain situations?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I would say so, especially especially with Islam in particular.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Who wins on Saturday?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I thought, I I'm leaning towards Jack because I certainly
like the plus two thirty I think is way too wide.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
That's not a bad bet.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Yeah, But I think I lean towards Jack because I
just think he's you know, it's the way this sport works.
He's the younger, fresher guy, and he's still improving. I
think Islam's peaked, is at his peak. I don't think
he's like getting worse or anything, but I just think
it's there's too many, too many asterisks for Islam right
now in this fight, whereas Jack is like just cruising.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
And Jack's so good that he can win and it
wouldn't change what we think about Islam. It would It
would hault Islam's future growth, you know, for as long
as that lost lasted. But I'm not ready to accept
like when I still match these guys up and I
and I know that there's the potential of moving up,
could infuse, could infuse Mahachev. I know how how tough

(35:49):
of him now Jack is. But when it goes to
the ground, is there going to be a window for
Islam to submit him and get and get and bring
the end to this fight. That advantage, that advantage is
not nothing in this That's still the foundation of this matchup.
That's what sets the betting odds. Ultimately, I ain't I am.
I'm voting against Islam until he makes me. Not this version,

(36:12):
not this guy that's hungry for greatness. Not this guy
he's you know, he got jacked for this ship, all right,
he's on Creating now probably Yeah, I'm taking Islam by
submission Luke, Okay, by submission in the.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Fore like he's on Creatio, Like, oh is he on
melowtnin gummies too?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
So look that's what I got. What do you got?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I'm gonna go Islam? I mean, listen, I think he's
what he's saying is right, dude, that this can I
be honest?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Please about time?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, I mean I'm just being serious, Like I don't
have a strong. I don't have a strong beat on
this one. Some of the other fights I feel like
I have a bit of a stronger one. This one
is a little tough for me because there's unknowns about
Islam moving up. JDM looks great, but that was against Bellall,
who is a very good opponent, but not Islam at
least know what we think Islam is going to be.
As you mentioned, he was not supposed to be in
that fight and got kind of pushed in there by

(36:57):
accident and great, you know, he overperformed. I fully recognized
that Craig as the next factor, like it would't surprise
me honestly with other directions. I just kind of feel
like Islam's got a lot of different ways to win
and that should show up over the course of about.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
One final thing Islam told me is.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
You're a pussy. He said, you was talking for three hours.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I had a great nine and a half.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
It was like remember that movie nine and a half
Weeks with Kim Basinger and Mickey Rourke.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
That was I did watch the Spike Lee remake of
High to Low High and Low with with Denzel Washington.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Was I didn't see that one was on Apple although
I did see.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I watched this morning, Shriff.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
We're just sharing, Okay, I saw higher learning when I
was a junior in high school.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I got shaken. I was shaken by the race rioting.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And that you're not used to going to see these
inner city schools.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Huh No, No, just the the outward aggressiveness of the race.
Michael Rappaport played someone that you had to hate.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, that's why he has maintained someone to hate.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
So speaking of all that, where was I going? I
was going?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh, he told me.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Ultimately, he said Islam. He said to beat him, that
you would have to train harder than him. And he said,
nowhere have I found someone.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
That that's not a good quite at all.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
I thought it was powerful the way he delivered it. Okay,
maybe he just outworks him. Okay, Wow, you said your
beat is off on that fight?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Is your beat also off on this women's championship?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Luke?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Because there's so much unique history.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
At he seems like if you can't he seems like,
if you can't beat me on the game, beat me off.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Look.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Two times flyweight champion, first ballot Hall of Famer, arguably
the pound for pound Queen Valentino. Chefchenko, already in possession
of the most title defenses in UFC women's history with
eight over her two reigns, will welcome two time strawweight champion,
arguably the greatest strawweight of all time. Despite the two
losses to Rosenambi Unis Jong Way Lee is ten and

(38:58):
zero against everyone else in the un and she's looking
like Islam to become the eleventh Champ Champ two division
champion in this sports history. The odds have been a
virtual pickum all of this week. Where do we stand.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Right now for this women's flyway beout?

Speaker 7 (39:13):
They've actually swayed in favor of chef Chenko. Now she's
minus one thirty five way Lee plus one fourteen.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Luke, you love history as much as anyone.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
This ain't this ain't you know? Necessarily Cyborg versus Newness.
This same as big as the Rowsey fights we talked
about that on Monday, or as important as Kurano versus Cyborg.
But I think this is the pairing of the two
most skilled women in the history of this sport on
two of the top five of all time fighting legitimately

(39:44):
one versus two of right now palm for pound. Jeff
Chenko can tie a man in Newness with the most
title wins in UFC women's history with ten Jeongwai. Lee
can put that stamp on her already likely hall of fame.
Run right here and both would have a chance to
secure the def biggest victory of their career.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Rarely does it get better than the historically this fight
right here.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, I mean, in terms of what's on paper, there's
not much to dislike. As you indicated, I think the
most important one is power for pound number one versus two.
That's really what you want to see. The issue is, yes.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
The discounting newness. She's back technically, is she she back
up the testing point?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, but she doesn't get ranked poudful pound till she
fights again. That's how that works.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Enough, Well whatever, Yeah, I mean I I'll reconsider the
moment she wins or fights again or something. But in
this particular case, I mean, again, this is a phenomenal contest.
I mean there's just a couple problems with it. One,
as you indicated the start of this, there's just no
get between them at all, like nothing, which doesn't have
to be necessarily. The other problem I have though, is

(40:45):
you can be like, all right, well they're not trash talking,
but the fight's going to be a banger. I just
don't think Schifchenko is going to allow this fight to
be a banger. I think she's going to allow it
to be not bad. I'm not saying she's going to
be a wet blanket in the way that she was
against Grosso, in part because I just don't think Jong
Wai is gonna let her. That's to me, is gonna
be the big difference here. But I do believe that, like,
why would you slug it out with her who's faster,

(41:07):
a little bit more nimble.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I think chim Chenko's counter boxing is going to be
an issue.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
For that left She's got that lead hook that she.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
I mean, she humbled far Oh in the first round.
Did Valentine just with that counter fair.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Enough for all clut her way back into the fight
a little bit. But I'm just pointing out, if your Chevchenko,
and you're looking at this realistically, how is your game
plan anything other than wrestling?

Speaker 5 (41:27):
I mean, yes, the parts rounded out her game and
they have very similar styles of Valentina naturally bigger, came
from a larger weight, class. That's all true, But the
big question here, just like the Islam fight, is what
does what will Wayley look at look like?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
At one twenty five? She's jack as shit ahead of
this fight as well.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Yeah, I mean, in the in the the spirit of
real tool. Can I the anyone who doesn't think this
is going to be competitive? I think JAG's gonna beat
up whoa whoa?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Really who whoa?

Speaker 6 (41:52):
I think Valentine is slow, like she's gotten older, she's
slowing down. I think Jang is a freak in terms
of pound bound strength. Think for her side, she's very she.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Didn't got barely. She here pick up Big Francis. Yep,
she picked up Big Francis all the way up. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
So I just think I just truly believe this is
gonna be one of those crossroads fights where Chefchenka comes
out and tries to do her like kind of point
style fighting. I think Shank's are gonna fucking just blitzer
and get up. I don't know why, I just see that.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
So she took she took Amana noon as his best punches,
and that didn't sit her down. But this is gonna man,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I just think she's like slowed down.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
She's definitely slowed down. I mean, it's gonna be one
of the other, right, either Chefchenko is gonna be on
top of her one way or the other, or calm down,
calm down, or more the other way, which is Jeong
Wi Lee is going to be so fast, so nimble,
so powerful that it's going to overwhelm her. It's gonna
be one or the other. But to the extent it
is exciting is a function of what Joan why Lee

(42:49):
can make it in defense of what what Chefchenko tries
to smother her with.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
True true.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
I just feel like if Valentina like her coming back
and winning the title in the trilogy, even though we
thought she should have won it in the second fight
with Grasso was huge, But at thirty seven, you're like, well,
maybe that's what the last that she had left, right,
she poured it out for that. No, the way that
she that she beat Farah, even though Manonu came back
in that fight, well.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It showed you that, holy shit, she still has it.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
She really is spending. You can vote for either one,
for pompf for punk Queen. You're right on both of those.
She's really still that fighter. I have a hard time
to believe that she can't bring it to the ground
if she needs to and get a break from that,
you think, Valentine.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think I grapping that much better than Jen.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Not that she'll advance on Jang and not that she'll
advance on way Lee and put her in trouble, just
that she can control the terms with that.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
So jan Cha Nan got her down two times, it
ull see three hundred got her down two times in
the same round, and one time she did it by
catching a kick, and the other time she did it.
Forget exactly how, but it was off of Jean Wi
Lee just being way too like overdone with her offense,
too wide open. Dude, if you're wide open with your offense,

(43:57):
Chefchenko is going to eat you will.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Chef Chenko's still more precise in time, is incredible, even
though Wayley has a vault game. And I do like
that you made that statement that we could be sleeping
on the idea that she can run right through it,
because if anybody can, she has that motor, she has
that strength, she has the like.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Did you say, Chefchek is more precise for sure? But
to what ends right?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Like I don't believe over the course twenty five minutes
she can just precision her way to a decision win.
I think Jangle will be too aggressive, and in this sport,
judges tend to go for the aggression over the counter striker.
I think over twenty five minutes, unless Chefchecker lands this
mythical headshot that she'd killed Jessica I with, I just
think Jang will get the not well.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Jessica walked right into it, so that will never happen again.
But Chefchenko hasn't always been perfect. Obviously, She's coming off
a stretch of the two fights the Grassol trilogy and
the Furo fight where she looks like a million bucks.
But look, the Talia is enough enough enough to win
the title. Yes, okay, she did it in a boring,
controlling way, but she.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
She looked good. She looked at a million bucks early
in the euro clatter wave.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
She hasn't been perfect.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
The Tyler Santos fight is still this weird blip in
the radar where it's like she probably lost that fight
and got a was got the benefit of the doubt
on the scorecards, but looking back, did the same issues
that Santos gave her. Is that repeatable by Wayley here?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Didn't Santos get the back a lot?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Santo's just out physical here.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I'd be surprised.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I don't think that jank style. I think Jack's looking
to do that right.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
She can get on top, but she's not like a backpacker.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Well then if that's not going to be an issue,
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Her striking splurges are going to be enough to completely
control this relages, because I.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Mean, that's the argument. That's the argument right here.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
I mean long, I will look, you've seen the virtual
pickam odds with the change in them. What does plus
Whaley do to change the betting conversation?

Speaker 7 (45:43):
I mean it's intriguing, dude. I literally said, I will
take whoever's the underdog here, and of course it was
a pick them when I went to put my bets in,
so I took Schevchenko in a parlay. But now that
Wayley's plus money, I definitely see the intrigue there. I
think there's a fifty to fifty fight forty eight forty
seven regardless of who wins.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
So Wayley, by the way, this public news I can
share she was supposed to do one on ones yesterday
with all the media people outside and media day and.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Did you know Brian gets one on ones?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well does And.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
They said that ultimately she was exhausted and she couldn't
speak too much, so they did a tiny scrum where.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
She just whispered.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I think she's work.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
That's a fair, very fair point right there. I don't
know if.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
She didn't seem fresh as has.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
A hard weight cut. Ultimately, it's not you know, it's
not the easiest.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
How about could be up ten pounds.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I understand. I'm just giving you the facts. That's that's
a fact that happened. Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Maybe she was just like, I don't want to talk to.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
That's that's very fair.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
It's dope. She she was like, wait that guy the master.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
I asked legitimate the subway, I asked legitimate mm A questions,
although I did ask protests if Ian Gary's a cook?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I did did you read?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
We also talked a lot about bitches and weed. Was
a great chat, but no camera to pick it up.
But the other the other influen answers were asking them like,
if you pulled up, no, if you pulled up to
a car accident, which MMA fighter would you want to
change your tire or something like.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
That's the kind of question. Better than that, for sure,
I'm way better.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Is he a cock?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
What was the exact question you asked to pra.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Is in his opinion? Are the critics and fans right?
Is Gary a cut? He said no, No, I don't
think so.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, when you see Ian, how do you ask kid
that question?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
He's one of my favorite fighters.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, this is the thing. BC likes to play both sides.
He he absolutely yeah, so he I can attest he
is absolutely an Ian Gary Booster.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Like to the Yeah, dude, he's going to end up
winning the championship in this division.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
But he also likes to engage in the gossip around
it for fun. So he will play a little bit
of both sides. But just a JOURNALI credit to his credit,
he thinks he and Gary is like on his way.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
All right, let's cut through the leftover bullshit.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Do you have an official pick you're taking wayy by
stoppage or just buy.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
A five roum oh, just say she's gonna win.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I know how so she'll not knocked down jeff Chenko,
She'll get the punches on her.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
She'll be a problem.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yes, I think a physicality, an aggressional be too much.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Will she take Valentina down at all?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, probably she could. I don't think she'll get the
more tacked down.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
It's gonna be a GSP double leg. But I could
see it again.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
She's working with Brad Riddell in Thailand.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, this car well, he's not a wrestling coaches.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Yeah, but that's and she's had shudo in camps in
the past. She has, and they gave her credit Team
cheff Chenko. They know that she can wrestle. I still
think Valentina has that edge. I'm taking Valentine about unanimous LIQ,
what do you got?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Umm?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I hope that it's not this way, but I just
tend to think Chef Chenkos might might try and to
mother her and get a decision, get a decision.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, all right, there we go, There we go. Uh,
those are the title fights a top it. Let's get
into this.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
You picked the youngsters, I picked all the old dons. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
So when you get like, is Lobby's thirty four?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I mean you're still in the game.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
By the way, as we transition here out of the
title fights into the deepness of this main card, you
have had a BKFC fight in which you, as the
lower third said, sent bent the bane to the sub
basement of hell. You have had a fight circus beer
boxing match that turned into a pro wrestling match slash
orgy I think.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, there was some touching.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh sorry with Ben.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Actually is your career still active right now?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Your fighting career?

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna try and fight uh misfits MMA next year.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Wow, are you gonna fight Dylan Danis or some ship?

Speaker 6 (49:30):
N I'm going to fight a bomb That's how we'll
be Uh yeah, No, I'm gonna try and do that.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Then I'll retire.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
All right.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Theydays I got we say that I got like thousands,
not tens.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
But well, according to that, you got six years left.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Usk girl, Okay, that's probably accurate.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
All right. Weren't you just in New Zealand? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah last week?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Who paid for that trip?

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Maclow?

Speaker 1 (50:01):
How long was that flight?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
It's like a.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Twenty hour travel and I was there three days Vegas
two Vegas, La La to Aucklands.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
All along as an Auckland flight.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Twelve or thirteen hours.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Yeah, just get fucking hammid Did you hear the story
about him last night on the plane the New York.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Did you try to bring a box cutter on the
plane again?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
No? No, no, I've left those days behind me.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I got upgraded to first class and.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
You got drunk because it's free.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Yeah, Chris Cassello, you have CPR was sitting behind me,
and he said after two hours, he heard the steward
say to me, so this is your thirteenth whiskey.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I feel bad about every once a while I get
upgraded and at at most at most four.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
He said as well, I felt. I was screaming in
my sleep on a plane.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I was like, ah, you're single, right, Have you had
a paseecon me yet?

Speaker 4 (50:56):
No?

Speaker 6 (50:56):
I wanted to get one, but I didn't realize they
didn't my manhood from me.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I won't. Yeah, it took everything I had.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Heected me. He got it from a guy who operates
in a van down by.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
The He was a Vietnam vet who was seventy five.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
And you only worked one day a week. And I
wasn't aware of all this until this assert.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I didn't as he's making so.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
The pre the pre visit, he was like he was
so like loving and he was comforting. He was like,
oh you're gonna be fine, how comforting, And then you
get to the day of it and he's like, nope,
you can't take drugs beforehand.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
They you know, like no, like pain reliever, and.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Of course you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
And then he was like talking trash as I was like.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
This is the smallest thing I've ever saying, because you
have the most pathetic generally, So.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
He lied that it would only be one needle.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
It was three needles to the you know, to the bag,
and the first and the first one and a half.
I can't even describe the pain, okay, and that's it's
it's the next level pain. But then when I was
like I could, I don't think he numbed me enough
because I could.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Feel every piece of the.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Surgery, and he was like, you're fine, You're fine kind
of So then I was like, why you told me
about Vietnam if you're this tough. So we kind of
have like a contentious back and forth while he was
working on the I.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Don't understand how they put us down for colonoscopies, but
they make you stay awakeful.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
I'll be honest, I would not be content with the
man cutting my bull bag.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
I would be very friendly.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I maybe I'd hold.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
My had turned sour.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
I hold, and I was like, yo, dude, I obviously
need more anesthesia here, like this is I'm feeling everything.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
This is not. I woke up in the middle of
wisdom tooth surgery and they had to give me more.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Why did you get me? Have you got children?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I do have children? They let you breath seventeen year
old children. Yes, yes, yes, I do, yes, I do. Uh.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Okay, now we will get to the next welterweight fight
on this card, which is a very good one, by
the way. Sean Brady versus Michael Morales my fucking favorite.
This road to Brady Morales here at UFC three twenty
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Speaker 2 (52:50):
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Speaker 5 (52:53):
Get unlimited data that won't slow you down, Luke Thomas.
In addition to Brady saying hello to you and saying
that he still loves this program, uh, you gotta love
this fight the eighteen and I love the eighteen and
oh slugger Michael Morales, the knockout machine is going to
test where he's really at against a Sean Brady who's

(53:15):
kind of so annoyed at the bottleneck atop this division
that he basically said, UFC, I'll fight anyone you give me,
They said Morales, He said, yes, he does believe Sean
Brady that there's a path to the title with a win.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Now, you can argue that that's.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
That's hopeful, that's optimistic given how crowded this division is.
You're gonna have Ian Gary next week against Ballal and
that fight matters a big one. But obviously, at the
same time, it's an audition. It's a showcase Saturday, which
welterwait in these other two fights can can jump through
the screen when you look at this matchup, well, the
experience edge for Brady, not just the wrestling, The experience

(53:49):
edge proved the difference if he's going to pick up
a WIRs.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So I just want to say I love this fight
so much. And the reason why is because, A I
just like Brady's game a lot. He's got a heavy
top pressure style, but he doesn't Yeah, yeah, you do
go first off, while I'm talking to reaching for his bottle.
He's got a heavy top pressure style but is super technical.
Now they had to remove leg locks from the battle,
but he when they did he tied Craig Jones, Like,

(54:15):
that's actually pretty fucking impressive. Yeah, it was. Craig Jones
had a handicap, but still, that's that's actually very terrible.
I'm just saying he's for MMA purposes. He's got one
of the best ground games, certainly in that division and
maybe all of UFC. And what he did to Leon,
he handled Leon. And what I loved about that Leon

(54:36):
fight was not just that he had one kind of takedown.
He had many kinds of takedowns, single leg, double soci,
he had the whole bit. I love this about in
particular because you've got a physical beast in Sean Brady,
but you got a much larger physical beast in Michael Morales. However, Morales,
while younger Brady, more technical, uh, Morales with a much
longer reach, Brady with much more experience, experience, I would say,

(54:57):
against high level guys, and more to the point, you see,
this is a really important one. Listen. I fully accept
that part of the game is, Hey, I don't want
to fight that guy, he's too tough. I'm gonna take
an easier road to get there. But when the other
guys say I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna sign
up for the bouts that nobody wants. I'm gonna take
risk that maybe some would reject. We have to celebrate

(55:18):
these people. You need to celebrate Sean Brady for taking
on a fight that most people would say, I'm not
fucking fighting that guy, especially when you think you after
beating Leon, Hey, I just beat the former champ. How
close am I to a title shot? He said, fuck it,
give me that beast.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Wins the lost of Mohammad.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
He said yesterday that actually, even if he wins his fight,
he won't wait for a title shot.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
He will fight whoever he needs to until he gets
I fucking love it you.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
He almost fought Geary like five times. That keeps your
favorite file. Yeah, well, I mean I do. I do
think he's got.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Because of his lifestyle choices he like or some of
his life.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying I love this attitude
from Sean Brady, and I don't know if it's gonna
work for him, but we got to celebrate guys like
this who bring fights like this to the game. Love
it all right.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Oscar Wilde Michael Morales is fresh off of tk O
Stoppages over Neil Magni and last time out over Gilbert Burns,
who's still tough as nails despite the slide that he's
currently on.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
How good is he?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Because this is the we're gonna find out Saturday, But
how good is this guy?

Speaker 6 (56:19):
I think he's very good and it's explosive, exciting, all
the things you love to see. But I think he's
running into a brick will in Sean Brady. And I
think in terms of just you know, there's this sort
of like X factor that people talk about, but like
just knowing how to win. I think Sean Brady knows
how to win, and I'm curious to see, if you know,

(56:40):
if that could be overcome in this fight. I think
the wrestling they do.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Call Morales a guy who doesn't not have wrestling, but
it's not.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
On the Brady love Well, he's got pretty good wrestling,
and he's got good judah. Remember his parents are judo
accomplished judokas, and his.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Mom is in that crowd and loud. You've been there, right,
his mom goes nuts, right, Probably have.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
You've been to the apex? Would he find his last
fight was against what Magni or it against Gilbert Gilbert.
It was either in the Magnet or Gilbert fight where
his mom was there and she went fucking bananas when
he when he was at the Apex and anyway, shout
out ed wife. She is unlike anyone else in the
history in the fight game. But the point I'm trying
to make is Morales has a long reach. He's he

(57:21):
hits hard. He's a little bit a little bit reckless
with it, but he definitely is powerful. But on the feet, dude,
he is tough to take down. He can kick too.
I think for Brady, the reason why I brought it
up against Leon where he had all these different kinds
of takedowns, is you're gonna need to see that from Brady.
Brady's gonna have to have different kinds of entries because

(57:42):
not one taken. Even if one takedown is your best takedown,
it may not matter depending on what stance they are,
how they're moving, what weapons they have around it. You
have to be able to adapt. Oh I thought I
had on my own lower third. I was going to
lose my ship. Anyway. The point trying to make is
Brady is this is the interesting part. Brady is kind

(58:03):
of known as a physical beast, which he is. We've
had him in studio. He oh yeah, his back looks
like a turtle shell. There's so much muscle attached to it.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Jurassic back then.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
But Michael Morales, dude is also a tank of a person.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Oh yeah, keep you just so gay talk about it.
But anyway, what you have here is two physical guys.
But I would give the edge to Morales just based
on the overall stature. I would edge him. However, Brady
much more technical, much more technical of the two. Not
so much taken on defense, but once it gets to

(58:41):
the floor, big difference there.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
So I asked Brady the magic question of even though
he hasn't had to lean on his striking in the
last three fights since the loss to Mohammed, where he's
striking kind of got exposed. You could say he got
he got knocked out, his gas tank, he got beat
up in that fight. He's wrestled almost exclusively, but he
says he's been working on it behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
If Morales finds a way to.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Intercept the takedown advantage here, can Brady survive, if not
thrive against Morales.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
On the certainly not thrive. And I would say, struggle
to survive.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
Man Morales is a very very like explosive striker, you.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Know, so as there's not a secret boxing, he's not
gonna be FRANKI Edgar out there with the jab Sean
Brady out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
I don't. I mean, with all respect.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
He can be a volume guy when he needs to be.
I don't know how that's going to work against the
guy who's got a seven breach.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
It's always kind of like set ups to the takedown
there he's striking, is all set ups to the wrestling.
So just to occupy you, y, I just don't suddenly
see him coming out fucking wind milling in and be like, gosh,
you know interesting, what are the odds at the moment
here Long Island, Luke.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
They've come down a little bit minus one thirty for
Brady plus one for Morales.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Dude, they are tough ass fighters.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
This is a good little Paul here.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Shout out to Mick Sean and then that other guy
that they hired once to do a fight.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Remember that guy.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Do you know what he does?

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Kelsey plumb too what I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Believe he's one of the cleanness, that's not a jake.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
The guy that got to pick one fight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I think so they made him a janitor.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
I'm not a very good journalist, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Believe, motherfucker, we know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I believe that's what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Believe they made is that like a success story or
like a major demotion?

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
What do you want to be a matchmaker for the UFC?
The the most miserable life ever I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I saw Sean Shelby uh in Vegas last time I
was there. He came to the fight that we I
was calling.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
He was there, Yeah, like a PTSD veterans.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
He Have you ever seen that meme where it's the
Vietnam War guy whose face is long and hanging and
there's like fucking cartage in the back. Every time he
sees Don't get me wrong, he's very friendly. He's very friendly,
but every time I see him, it's it's just that
meme over and over again, like their lives are tough?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Are you going to make a pick?

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
Here?

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Shore Brady?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I gotta go Brady, here, I gotta go Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I feel like we're all gonna get come up into Morales,
is gonna break down. But I'm gonna say Sean Brady
because I love Sean Brady so much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I think he's on that run right now that gets
you to a title shot eventually. I don't know if
he wins it. It depends on the match.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I fucking love his attitude. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Cuts back in shape, by the way, have you guys
watched it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, that's that's my super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
John Brady need Shovecott to become the next who's my guy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
A featherways a beat?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We don't need him to be the next beat Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah, No, like we need Choldcott to show us who
the freaky is. We can't. Like, what do you take
from the shot?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Cut? Gary fight?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Good or bad for chof Cut? That's the thing, the thing? Yeah,
will he ever the way that he kills?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah? I talked to Danny Rube briefly. He was He
didn't tell me exactly the full details, but kind of
indicated he was fucked up in that fight.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
So he may come back and in the same way
he like skins the fur off the animals and then
wears it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
He might do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That's the hardest ship on planet. If a motherfucker walks
into the octagon wearing dead animals, he killed himself Yeah,
it's a fucking rap for you, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
The next welterweight matchup on this pay per view main
card of UFC three twenty two is also fantastic. Carlos Protest,
who had lost a what started off as a non
competitive fight to Ian Gary and a big step up
turned into him nearly stopping Gary late. In fact, I
asked him straight up yesterday, how close were you stopping
Ian maschad O'gary?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
He said, He said that close.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
He's going to welcome a former champion here in Leon Edwards,
and another fight that could catapult the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Winner deeper into contention.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Protests bounced back and sent Jeff Neil to hale hel
to redeem himself. He's the star of the fighting Nerds.
At a moment when the fighting nerds are pointing in
the wrong direction, this one has banger. I mean, I
just met her written all over it, so much so
that it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
This is why your kids hate you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
The only fight on the main car that's getting a
little spice off.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
I mean, Corvo was already here, but we had to
call him in because what Carlos Practest and Leon Edwards
had been serving each other back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
This week at media day is worthy of.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I just want to point out he looks like Oscar.
He looks like imagine if Macaulay Culkins just did meth
for ten.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Years he did, right, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
It's like imagining the guy with Mahome alone and the
parents just never How.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Did he get half the size of easy? I look
very very small.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
You are half the size?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
So true? That is also true. Let's start off first.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Here on shots fired with Carlos Marlborough.

Speaker 9 (01:03:37):
Prah think that he still wants to be fighting at
daily of them wants to be champion? Or do you
think he's just fighting for the sake of it? No,
he's done. You know, we cannot teach hard. You know,
if you like he already give up one time, you're
going to give up always. You know, Leon is a
kind of fighter, like when they think it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
Start to get hard, like he he when he see
like he he it's going to be a hard night.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
He started to.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
Give up, you know, like he he don't do to
my things to try to change the game, and he
forget about get the win, just try to survive during
the fight.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
So does that mean you're gonna put the pressure on
him from the get go to try break him.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I mean not pressure, but like bad moments and
all like pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
He's easy to survive.

Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
But I want to see how he can fight with
somebody try to really hurt to him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
You know, I will say, I do find it. I
get his point.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
But it is funny that he's like, yeah, he quits
when the going gets tough, when the guy he's talking
about has the most famous come from behind victory in
mm A history.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Also, it's just not even fucking true. I've seen people
quit and then come back and have great fucking runs.
Well it's not even true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Here's Leon Edwards rebuttal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
It gets hard, he quits.

Speaker 7 (01:04:52):
If you've quit, Once you've quit, you're gonna quit exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:04:57):
I feel skill for skills. I'm the better fire about
athlete I was got and remind him of who I am.
I mean, like he as I fought when the first
time moved up, it was it was in and I
beat him his last fight. I don't know what Jeff
Neill was doing, just walking high guard, just walking flat
foot walking in.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
Just like that.

Speaker 10 (01:05:18):
So he was there to be and he was and
he was still on success, you know what I mean.
So I think he's in for a rude awaken Saturday Night.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Do you feel like they're forgotten man in this division?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Because you know Tomorrow's obviously he's come back.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
He said he wants to fight for the belt next,
Sean Brady wants to fight for the belt, Carlos wants
to fight for the belt.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
But it doesn't seem like everyone is.

Speaker 10 (01:05:37):
That's that's the game, right When when Camorrow was on
the two through Friday, the Loving Street, they're saying the
same thing he's done, blah blah blah, and then it comes
out he beats Buckley. Buckley, Yeah, but beats Buckley. Now
he's like on far from toll even does just the
game that we're in. It's what you're doing from lately
and it is it is after Saturday Night. We go

(01:05:58):
from there, well, we.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Get to this point for a little bit of trash talk.
That's still the central question of this fight. I agree
with Leon, fighter for fighter, pound for pounder, he's the
better fighter than Carlos protest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
He had a fucking weight class title, but he's thirty four.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
The title lost.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
The title lost to Balal was not overly impressive, and
to be fair, the journey that Leon took to winning
the title was not overly impressive at times until Sean
Brady handled him until it was crazy impressive, and then
they beat Kamara in the rematch, and then didn't he
beat the bags off Colby? But then we get to
the point where he looks kind of lifeless and out

(01:06:35):
of answers against Blal and then gets handled by Sean Brady.
So is it possible Oscar to just reimagine the guy
he used to be, the top legitimate champion in top
five pound for pound fighter that he was. People are
acting like he lost five in a row. And the
reason why they're acting like that is because mentally he
doesn't seem to be the same. But are you of

(01:06:55):
the belief that this is a guy who might float
at times in self believe for what ever, but can
get back there and show you who he is once again?

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
It's it's tough, right because for a lot of these guys,
once you win the belt, you've made it right and
then you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
You can just lose that hunger. And I feel like
once he beat Kamara in the rematch in London.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
You know, against Kolby, I don't think he looked all
that impressive. And then against Blaw Listen, it was a
fucking fuck o'clock in the morning and I knew there, yes,
I was, I wanted to kill myself, But I think,
like if you remember that fifth round, he actually had
a lot of success against Blaw, he actually.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Hurt Blud but to your point, again, very lifeless.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
And then against Brady, to a practice his point, he
did look like he just gave up, like he did
look like fuck, this is a hard night out and
kind of quit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
And I think it's.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Very hard for you know if you do that, If
you do quit in there, and only he knows if
he does, right, can you come back and be like no, No,
I can still do it. And I think this fight
will play out where Pratie will come very aggressive and
it's up to Leon if he's willing to meet that
or not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Basically head shot dead Luke that used to be a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Yeah, I mean he said it and embedded this week
as well, so I could still technically a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I know. I mean, we gotta we gotta stop.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Hey, I could be in today's embedded they interviewed me.
There was like there was a there was a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
You know, They've I did want to say this to
you earlier when you put this up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
They've made me do two camera pieces like every fight week,
and I've.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Made it to one embedded.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
So you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Some ship one. Uh, there's nothing else going on that way,
and I think it was I must have been.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Was that Smith versus Gustafson, Smith versus Uh, There was
no time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
All I know is I lied. This is a great fight.
Everyone's excited for this boy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I mean, I did I put on a show as well. Protest.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
You guys are pussies, asked pest.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
The magic questions that we would want to ask protest.
I wish there was a camera there. My interview was legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Five is fifteen cigarettes per day fight week. That's his plan.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
He's going to smoke one within four minutes of getting
the win over Leon Edwards. He said, if they'll let
him do it indoors like he did last time, he'll
do it. But he said he's going straight to basically
medicals and then then a then.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
A dart will not smoke weed, does not smoke weed. Yeah,
I know the fuck out in my life loves to drink.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Cannot get a tobacco h sponsorship per UFC rules.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, you've seen. Unless you have like a gun ammo sponsorship, either.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
You can do a whiskey apparently or alcohol, but not that. Yeah,
and that car wasn't his this week, the car, that
black car that had the Marlborough logo on the hood
with his name on it. But clearly I asked him,
do you remember Ricardo my Orger. He's like, oh yeah, yeah,
like he's the new version of that. He's also pretty
damn good in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
The well fucking dude, he's not the new version of
Ricardo Majorga who threatened to drink Dalo Hoya's wife's breast
milk in front of him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
To show him that he's a real man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Yes, yes, and also not my Orca would drink beer
and smoke in the ring with the boxing he lives
on after the fight while.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Was a different level.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
But in my Orger did beat Vernon Forest when he
was pumped upon number one in the Unified Waltiweight Champion,
but protests proved against against Jeff Neil and really in
the comeback against Gary and the fight that he now
admits I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Listen to my team.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
I just kind of went out there and was just
trying to hurt him. If he wins this, that's a
major leap until like title contention.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Well, also, the UFC are big on him. You can tell,
like you can listen. It's not hot.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
I feel like if you've done this job for long enough,
you can speak Dana, you know, whenever Dana.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Talks about process, like, yeah, he's a bad motherfucker brother.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Right, So they love Carlos and I think if he
wins this, they would shoot him right up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
You know what would they give him? Would they give
him Brady if he wins?

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
Or yeah, I mean probably because if you think really,
in my opinion, they'll do if Islam wins, they'll do
Islam usman.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
But then again, it's not a secret why Dana White
got in that argument.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Just name value. They probably got one know two more
out of his min So why do not you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Luke, did you see a week ago Dan I got
into an argument with some question asked.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Called him the greatest, Like it's not even a debate.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Usman's the greatest on GSP is that's him?

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Like he said that to Kari, didn't he?

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
But I don't know, but he glaced John Jones the
same way about pound for pound when they wanted to
John Jones to play ball. Business Wise, they feel like
they can get another payday out of Usman. But to
be fair, Ben, to be fair, Usman didn't look bad
against Tamia in the defeat on late notice or Buckley
and winning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I gotta give him that, even though I don't like
that he's been raised.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
That was a hell of a performance against Buckley. But
I didn't think it was gonna get a fucking title.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
What are they gonna skin have to play his way
in again?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, he's been not too long to be active.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Okay, So if Gary wins, they'll hold him for a
title opportunity, right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
That means that, yeah, so what if Gary wins next week?

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
See this is but then I think it depends on
if his m wins because j DM, you know Tody
and that his son wasn't his, So I think there's
a bit of a backstory there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
But I think they say mean things to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
These are rascals, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
I think I think it depends on like how the
two fights play out, because again as well like Ballalade, and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
That's probably going to decision.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Let's be honest, and if it's a life if it's
a lifeless performance by both of them, then they can
sort of pivot.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Then they can do these.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
If Gary can't start finishing, dudes, it's gonna be hard
to fulfill the potential. You can win the title without
it in the right matchup, and I think he'll get
favorable matchmaking, but unless he can develop that extra gear,
it's going to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Be finish guys.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Yeah, rather than okay, all right, to close out on
this talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It, I'm gonna let you just hang here.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Yeah, Yo, this is big if Protest does it. But
I do kind of want Leon Edwards to remind us
who he still is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I think the point he makes is a great one,
which is that Protest he's kind of playing with house
money because your point promotion seems to like him. He's
a Brazilian, he speaks pretty good English. They always love
that shit, and he's got an aggressive style. He's got
good power, by the way, So surely if I think
the more powerful striker of the two. But Leon's right.
Leon's beating better guys and is definitely more well rounded.

(01:12:59):
These thumped in his last two fights, or at least
in the last one he got thumped. You know what's
really left of his hunger? What's he really trying to do?
This fight? To be kind of like, I'm not gonna
says as interesting or not? Is not as interesting because
this is one of the few fights was a little
bit of sizzle to it. Yeah, However, I can't tell
if it's like a guy who won't ever be championship

(01:13:20):
level versus a guy who was and no longer ever
will be again. So it's like, you know, what's the relevance? Actually,
I guess we'll have to see.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
But I love this fight. What a great man like this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
One more than like Brady Morales.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I think they're even with each other.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
But I do think you said it at the beginning
of the show.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
If Leo goes out and gets fucked, like stomped, that's
pretty much a wrap story.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
We're gonna do.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Wow to close the main card, A very good lightweight.
It's not Bo Nickel, huh, a very good lightweight, but
the people spoke and they got what they wanted here.
But Neil Darus, who had back to back stoppage losses
to Oliver It.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
In the ct Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
But it is wrong, came back and won a decision
against him to moy Kano.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
But he welcomes a god of war BSD, who seems
to be back on track two stoppage wins after two
stoppage losses in which he either fell apart because he
was ill against Dustin Poirier and then got his I
compromise against mo Kano and eventually lost by Tko. I
feel like he's back, but what a perfect fight to
find out if he is or not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
It will be a war. Somebody's getting the ct as Luke.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Said, what do you like about this matchup BSD versus
dry Hush?

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
I feel like lightweight. You know you talked about the
which division's most stacked. I think lightweight is the most
stacked in terms of showing a non MMA fan fights, right.
This is this is the CTE division, you know, through
its legacy of Gaichie Poyer, all these guys Hooker.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
And I think BSD is one of it is in
their mold.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
I would never miss one of his fights because I
assume he will either give or take brain damage.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
And I think, well, that's that's raw and real right there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
I think, uh, it's the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Yes, that's what we hit him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
This is real.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Himself for my entertainment. But I think.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Unfortunately for Benil, he is tailor made to take that punishment.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
I think he's a little slower, it's a little older,
and I think that it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Just he's way fucking better on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
For sure, he's way better.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
But what I think is he's just in those transitions
from standing to takedowns and stuff like that, he's ready
to be caught.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
And I think he will.

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Even if he wins, which he could absolutely do, he
will fucking take a ship ton of punishment to do.

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
So what are the odds, well plus one fifty minus
one eight and all these, all these.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
The version of BSD that out wrestled Mauricio Hoofy before
stopping him, that guy can win a lightweight title.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Can you beat Mauricio motherfucking Hoofy on the ground, motherfucker?
That is no grand achievement. And before that he took
the real thing. You should be bringing up the real thing.
You should be is darry giving Gamrot all he can
fucking handle and neutralizing all of his wrestling. He was
the guys have neutralized, for example, Hooker has neutralized it
by kind of minimizing it and then doing damage. Derry

(01:16:08):
USh was the first guy who was just better there,
really good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I think had like the worst luck, Like he's actually
better than.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
By Alexander Hernandez was speaking about. He was just saying
like darry Us was the guy. Dari Us is the
guy who's like, was not going to beat the very
very best guy. He's gonna make that fucker. He's gonna
put him through the pass right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
He was pushing Jesus and Saudi or somewhere over there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I wasn't being racist. I was like, this guy, you know,
he's a strong dude.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Actually he's asked about that me to day.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
They said why he was got a little teary eyed
when he said he fought for Jesus, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I know I have Persian friends who are like, who's
that Persian guy in the UFC who's Christian? They always
bring that part.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
But he also is not dyeing his hair like you look,
he's just gonna let the salt and pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
For I was looking at photo every day. There's less
brother every day.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
I was the ratio here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
You know what I'm gonna do. Hold on, hold on,
you don't have to give me, give me like two minutes.
I was looking, My wife was looking. I was looking
at photos from two oh five fight week because it
was you know, nine years ago this week or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
Yes, ninety years Fuck you know it's ten years ago, right,
twenty sixteen?

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Ten years ago? No, that's nine nine and some change.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
No, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
You f C two o five was twenty twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Oh yeah, yes, sorry, I have sorry, you do have
Connecticut here. I want to give me, give me, give
me a couple of minutes to put to fire it up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
It is shocking, It is shocking. Well, let me transition here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
What you say we've uh like it's a contest.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Wait, anyone anyone got a pick here?

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Uh bsd Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
Sure, I want Dartis to win because of Jesus, not
so much of that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
But he's a I respect, you know. I want to say,
fucking Dartus. Fuck y'all, wow, oh, fuck y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Two salty guys, filling in for each other.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Right there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I like that, right there? All right, those are the
main cards.

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Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
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Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
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Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
These pictures of you before you got old and salty skip.
When I'm talking about takedowns Jongwai Lee Oscar one point five,
more or less takedown secured for Jung Wi Lee again
chev Chenko one point five, I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Think, O, Hey, where's the camera. This is this is
from November thirteenth, nine years ago. Look at that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Look we're in an ad read at the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Oh sorry, sorry reading to read the room.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Dude here's excited about yeah? All right?

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Uh Luke, when we're talking about significant strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
In that same fight sixty eight and a half for
chev Chenko more or less against hung way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Lee, I'll take the overh yeah, I'll take the over
because if she gets to the back and is just
busy shotting, he'll cut up yep.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
And to close here Oscar Jack Dela Madelena fifty seven
and a half significant strikes against Islam more or less
over five rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
If these are three round contest, then it's a little
harder about five.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
I don't say Jack's go to fucking crazy output. It's easy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Okay, thanks, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Also, I did want to get quickly, Luke, your your
taught your thoughts on Tracy Cortez fifty four and a
half significant strikes in a rematch with Aaron Blanchefield over
three rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
I'll take the under. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
By the way, they have Mahchev at forty nine and
a half significant strikes. I am going I'm going, we
should be asking him, I'm going more in that one
Againstella Mattei round.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Again, actually the same questions, asking the same question.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
I was gonna say the forty for Islam or whatever
it was is a low number. But they're obviously thinking
this fight does not go five rounds, and that's why Yeah,
finishes him in two rounds, even three. He probably doesn't
hit forty something. No Chevchenko sixty something as well. I'm
gonna take the under even if that goes five rounds.
I could see it being a pretty aneemic.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
Out Ben Wile Saint Denise thirty seven point five significant strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Give me the over rule.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
I might have that in a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Give me the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Over on that one. So that's what you're gonna do, folks.

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normally on these, I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Was saying, I was telling him, you know your opponent,
your former opponent, Ben the Bank, Davis was he was
making fun of, uh, not lightly, lightly, he was making
fun of Hana Wicano because you look a picture like
when he got in the UFC versus now that has.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Balls on Twitter, Ben the Bank.

Speaker 6 (01:21:38):
He goes after fight d Ben's they God gave him
everything but the heart of the fight they gave they
get one, Yeah, they get the hat, but nothing else.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
But he was talking about how Mokano had aged, and
I was like, bitch, life is going to beat the
motherfuck out of you two.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Can you show us how you've aged?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Oh my god, bro, it's so sad.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
That was three years eh.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Whole okay, put that and put that in the camera there. Yeah,
I was do you blame that on the job or
the alcohol?

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Look at the color of my fucking beard.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
Look at that shipown kills you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I mean, you know, energy drinks heavy, that too?

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
That ship?

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Yeah, look at that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
And now look at me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Do you know your your one? You're one just for
men away from looking like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
That, I'm almost I'm almost a mal Santa. Okay, I'm
almost a Malsan.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Maybe the version of us during COVID.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
We did get fat during COVID, but wow, normally we
would stop after the main card.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Here did you get fat during COVID? Where were you
in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Well no, it's an abby, dabby for the fuckingce of it,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Really in the bubble, the UFC bubble.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
But how long were you there at a time?

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
Three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, holy ship?

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah time.

Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
In fact, I actually got the drink special in the
bubble removed because of how out of control I got.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Wait wait, wait, wait, tell the tell the story.

Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
I don't want to tell it at but that the
gist I just got out of control And howse Youngs
found me doing the con McGregor is struck down the
hall way card or naked but a gown on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Pat Wow, that's Rick Flair style.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
You do have his TDS. Wow, did you bange Jose youngs?

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
No, but he has twice stated women of bulla size.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Didn't say I dated dated.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
It is an aggressive word in this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yes, had had episodes.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
I'm glad that we're breaking this up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Man, you are gross.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
I mean you posted that on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
Yes, let's get to the featured prelim on Saturday Night.
It's in the Middleway division. Nickel enters his own referendum
and I asked him straight up, is that fair to
say coming off of one defeat?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
No, because Nickel, not camera, not only had a I
don't want to say a questionable decision over Paul Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I thought he earned it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
But he had a fighting which he got booed against
Paul Craig with prime matchmaking opportunities, in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Which he didn't shoot at all.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
He just had a really kind of bad performance striking
and got lucky he didn't lose on the cards. Comes
back against our dr and gets gassed out, kneed out
and stopped in the first half of the fight. Now
he's got a ground expert in hold judelfo Vieira, who
has traded a lot of wins and losses in his
UFC run, Luke, I mean everybody that loses and comes back.

(01:24:28):
Islam Maahchev got stopped in round one by Adriano Martinz
ten years ago, and we don't talk about that name
because all he's done since then, Islam has win fifteen
straight fights, including four title defenses. Is this going to
be much to do about nothing in the arc of
Bo Nickel or is the concern we have about whether
he's fully aware of his own inefficiencies or deficiencies true?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Because remember he said a.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Five fight Hamza, it'll be the odds will be minus
one thousand for me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
He said, like within the last year, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
In a pure wrestling match, maybe I suppose it. It
would be at least a couple of years ago. It
certainly would have been. I don't know anymore, dude. Udolpho
Vieira is actually the right kind of opponent because he's
very beatable. So for example, Anthony Hernandez just kind of
mowed right through him. But if you weren't around for
the jiu jitsu days of Hudolfo Vieira versus Marcus l
Made otherwise known as Bouchetsha the heavyweight. This was like

(01:25:19):
a major rivalry at the time in the early twenty tens.
The ground game of Judolpho Vieira is fucking out of
this world, lights out. But when it came to MMA,
like all these sort of old school jiu jitsu guys,
it didn't exactly go. However, if you're not on your
piece and q's he'll fuck you up proper. But for
a guy like bo Nicol, one of the ways in

(01:25:40):
which for example, Anthony Hernandez was able to break in
was pace, but Bo Nicol sometimes does that, But then
against against Paul Craig was kind of like dialing the
rate of offense back bo Nickel. This is one of
those fights where it's like, if Bo Nicchol can get
out there and show the well rounded skill that he
thinks he has as well as maintain an offensive pace,
is easy fight for him to win. But if he's

(01:26:02):
not playing the levels. Honestly, I'm not predicting it, but
I wouldn't rule out a Viera spoiler here.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
Wow, remember Viera submitted Cody Bundridge in round two. I'm
sorry he got submitted by Cody two Bickel be Cody.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I'm not I'm thinking Bonnickel will win. I'm saying he's
got some stuff to do to make it authoritative.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
What is what is Bonnickel missing here to put all
the pieces together? Because his interview with me was great,
he said all the right things. He's a great dude.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
It seems like, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
I just think, like the RDIA thing, I hate calling
these guys quites and stuff like that because they're getting
in there and they're fighting, and they're doing it regularly.
But the thing did show us like once he was hurt,
he did not seem ready to just bite down and
go down swinging. I guess you know, he sort of
carried up a little bit and got finished.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
But I think his skill level is that that he
will always be read simply successful in the sport. Whether
he's championship caliber as we as we maybe previously thought,
who knows, but I think he will always.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Have wins in this sport.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
I would like to do more real talk and say
that I think American wrestling is the most overrated thing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
Wow, I'll get wrong myself in the moment. Holdelfo Vira
submitted Cody Brundage beat him.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Budget by how many times? Correct? I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
You're wearing the media thing. He's not wearing the media.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Thing because I'm not a show for the UFCA. But
this guy's a partner, now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Why I can't deny it? Yeah, you don't want to
with me? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Can you play back around?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I will do anything for love Dana, but I won't
do that. I want to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Uh luke.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Uh forget the brandage rivalry.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
With both of these guys, huge rivalry both striking isn't great.
But the disconnect that I think people don't love about
him is that I don't know if he realizes that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Well, he's starting to realize it more right. Did he
do media day yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yeah? He did talk to him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
But the rest of the peasants in the coach class?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Are you putting that Mountain du through college?

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
By the way, that's my second one, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
As Okay, yeah, this might be four or five.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
What did he say to you guys? Have anything anything?

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
I've note I wasn't listening, to be honest, but he was.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
He just he did say that. And I think this
is an interesting thing. I do think it will help
him as Spider, he got humbled, you know. He came
in and said, like he mentioned on Aerial Show, I said,
I would always be on the main card, and now
I'm on the pre limbs, and I've realized that's where
I meant to be sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
And I do think like a.

Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
Lot of guys, especially if they've been very successful in
another realm of combat sports, they do need to get
a little bit humbled by every may So I do
think that will help him. But I think maybe as
to your point, like you know, he fancied himself as
a strike randomly, maybe now that he's been humbled, he
will not do that and get back to his.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Strength and stuff. So I thought that was the main
takeaway on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
My biggest issue was if you look at him in
the Contender series, he hit the one guy he thought
that was a cage CFFC champion, where he hit him
with the overhand right and then tackled him and then
triangled him. Where he's chaining all this offense together, but
really it ended on the ground. I want to see
that like Habib had.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
You're talking about the Zach Barrego fighter, the Donovan Beard
Donovan Beard, Okay, where he were like Habib had like
Islam's got good striking.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Habib had functional striking at the end of his run.
But what did he really have If you had if
you got the takedown or get got behind. He had
both ground and pound and the threat of submissions. I
want to see bon Nickel build from that. You can
get we know you can get the takedown, that's really
not the issue. Build your offense from there all the
way to.

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
The face anything that happens a lot like these guys
who have such a wrestling basis like we saw it
with I mean, maybe a bad example, but Ronda, for example,
is the best anata jack you make. It's like they
were so grapping heavy that the moment they have success
in striking, like, oh striking, this is more fun, and
then they go in on it and get fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
And it's like it's like Benkoha is not the same
as Amanda Nonas and they're both Brazilian, but the challenge
is quite different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
No, that's very fair right there. I mean I hope
for both saking and figure out the path there and
he can.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
It would be good for American and frankly overall m
m A if a guy like bon Nicol could come
from Penn State and actually even through this, like you
want to call it a redemption arc, actually turn into
something kind of awesome. That would be good. The sport
needs people like that to actually make why.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Why are you making that face again? Here's here. Put
the camera on a camera, put the camera you could
this is you'll literally tell Brian Campbell Brian, no, no, no, no, no,
watch this, Brian. I have something to tell you. My
whole family died tragically in a house fire and I
had to watch. Here's how I'd look at you when
you're telling him you watched your family burn alive, He'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
I was gonna say, yeah, the same issues I had
with the service workers in your home city of d
c Uh in terms of them not getting my humor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
I had it, they got it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
I had a particular with bow Nickel where I was like, yo,
like everybody's trying to get on the White House card,
you know, is there a path for you?

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
And he's like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
I talked to mister Trump recently and he one of
the Trump yeah, one of his favorite fighters, and I
was like, yeah, what's going on with Trump and like
that home deep ot gold lamy that he's putting all
over the Oval Office.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
I'm like, it's kind of tacky.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
And then he was like, I believe mister Trump is
very good taste.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
That didn't last.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
That didn't last.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
I was like, oh, DC coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
You should have been like a more of a Lows guy.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
Yeah there, so you know it didn't go anywhere humor wise,
but uh, okay, you know what, that one's funny, just the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Same kind of all the things you could have brought up.
You know, it's tasted gold.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
I mean I could have Yeah, enough of that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Let's go to Roman copylab against Hobo cop It just
kind of a banger in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Hair just a complete fucking CT.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
We shouldn't call that anymore. Do you like Roman copy
Love's like very curly hair.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
By the way, one of you guys picking Islam to win,
probably because they're both Russian or whatever, But that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
I said, who's phonically challenged. I do not like his
curdy hair?

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Makes okay, But you're you're fighting a good fight right now.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
I thought I was going to be gone for ages,
but this is just a fucking vertical car.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Have you booked your flight to Turkey yet, bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
I promise my mom I wouldn't go to Turkey. Why
you mean she she's very racist. I guess I don't know,
but she just said that she doesn't trust them over this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
They'll fix your ship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
You had some good times in Turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I did have good time. You know what. Really the
only issue is you can you can just buy alcohol
in their clubs and bars. It just it's a little expensive.
They try. They put like an extra tax on it.
But it's like, if you want want to get sucked
up and roam around like that's cool, you can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
That's not ool.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
I do?

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
I do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
I mean that's mostly what you do.

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
I mean I did when I'm going to Qatar next week,
and I did google if you can drink there, and
you can.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
You have you been to Cutter I lived? You know
that Luke was born in a New Deli in India.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Wow, it's not even American.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
I'm American. I have no Indians relationship. I've never had Indians.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Okay, uh, let's talk about this women's flyweight. It's a
rematch from the regional and Aaron Blanchfield believes that this
is her path back to the title level. And even
though the former Hammer of the Month has that one
pro defeat against Minon Farrow and it was humbling to
some degrees. I mean, she kept trying for the takedown,

(01:33:40):
but her striking got exposed on that level.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
She welcomes to Tracy Cortez, who beat her on the
regionals when Aaron Blanchfield was very young. Now they're going
to rematch. Fortess has a great record, but has that
lost in.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
There to rosemama Unis. Blenchfield's fresh off of beating Rose
nama Unis. What does all of that mean in terms
of what we're looking at here?

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Because hated or love it, this fight is a contenders.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
Fight here to push one of them fairly, fairly high
up Luke and I think it's going to be an
interesting matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
I don't know what to make of this one. Cortes
has had, I think, a decent run in UFC, but
not one that's been spectacular, right. Blanchfield was one that
kind of jumped out to us, but then kind of
came back to earth, and now we're trying to sort
where they are. I feel like Blanchefield has had to
fight better opposition and even though she lost against Vro
like the kind of experiences that are going to give

(01:34:32):
me the sense that she may have just a little
bit of a competitive edge on it. But Cortes, here's
the problem with Cortes. She starts out real strong and
then kind of does like fall apart, which kind of
fades a little bit over the course of about and
I feel like against Blanchfield that could be a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
I feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:34:51):
I'm going back to yesterday at me to Day where
Islam said, you know, I have planned A, B, C,
and D. I feel like Tracy has plan A and
then if that doesn't work or to see her almost
stagnate in the fight, you know, she sort of goes,
oh fuck, it's not working. So to your point, that's
what I think happens to her. This fight, I actually
believe is probably like a contender fight, right, It really is,

(01:35:13):
because I feel like we go back to the matchmaking
and this is maybe a bit sort of behind the scenes.
These two are like to me, it feels like the
promotion is trying to push these two.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Tracy is very much.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Tracy is getting a huge push on social lately.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
By she's very remoxible and she's six and one.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
In her last seven, she bounced back from the Rose
defeat to defeat Viviana Roujao.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
She has beaten Jasmine Jazz.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
De Vissius good wins, but it's a step down her
wins below. I mean that she thought justin Kishbur was
only a split decision when nobody should their pants in
that fight.

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
In the same time, in the same way, Paula Cossio
Romero lookd grant on the pace to her and look
grant on the place to tea.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
You know, that's very true.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
I think Aaron Blansfield is the better fighter, even though
Blanfield lost by split decision in twenty nineteen in LFA
at a different time in their career.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Is this going to be a humbling.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
Fight for Tracy Cortez if she ends up getting taken
down and beaten in top position, because that's Aaron's strength,
that's when the uh, the cold blood comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, I mean, I think any kind of loss like
that would be humbling, ruinous.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
No, does she have to take down defenses what I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
I think for parts of it she will be consistently
that I doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Okay, yeah, okay, interesting matchup right there? Are you guys
siced at all?

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
For bantamweight Malcolm well Maker's rise and his fight against
Cody hav I'm fucking high on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Well because I know he's high on well Maker. Ever
know he's high.

Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
I just said, yeah, I was just saying I hate
this fight, and well Maker actually said it yesterday the
media to day He's like, I don't know why they're
putting two prospects against each other, but like, shit, all right,
we gotta go. Like I almost feel like they could
have had three more fights and fought each other when
they were ranked or something like that. Maybe maybe I'm
too high on Cody had him, but I feel like
he's legit and this is probably well Maker stuff is test.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Well Maker can fucking fump.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
He's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
He's super fund.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
By the way, we know you like a good drink.
Do you get down with the with the left handed cigarettes?

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Actually?

Speaker 6 (01:36:59):
I smiked my first joined in like five years last
week in New Zealand and I appeaked for five hours,
So no, not really?

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Is it legal in New Zealand?

Speaker 6 (01:37:08):
No, I think medicinally if you switch over to that though,
I've tried to become a stoner to sort of like
chill out. Yes, it's not working for.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
Me though I'm more of a upper guy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, he'd rather burn out than fade away, and I
respect that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah, I want to just burn out. Yea bury mean smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Yeah that's great because it is Cordy hatton On. This
hadn't on this level.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Well, I don't think we know yet, right I think?

Speaker 6 (01:37:36):
But again, it's almost like well Maker's problem is almost
the aspinal situation where he's winning so quickly and decisively
that you get it, you get you get a weird
gauge for his skill level, and then when he doesn't
look as good as that against Cyril, which you know
he would look okay, people overreact. So I wonder if
well Maker goes out there and then maybe gets to
a decision this time, people are going to be like, oh,

(01:37:57):
he's not actually that good, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
I think, but I to you, like, for his weight class,
this the.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
Technique and power he hits with is fucking unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Yeah, he's fun A special I don't know, we'll see,
but definitely fun.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Featured early prelim goes in the middleweight division. I don't
hate this fight. Kyle Dawkas versus GM three.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
God bless Kyle. I love Kyle dawkas he had a
up and down run, you know, in his first go
went back to the regional scene and just plugged away
and plugged away and plugged away, and then finally he's back.
He had a great win in his UFC return, knocked
him out. Yes, uh, I just love it. I love
his story. I love his moxie. He's actually pretty skilled,

(01:38:39):
you know. He's not one of these guys who's like
some scrub who's just kind of hanging on. He's got
some ability to definitely compete. Whether he'll win, I don't know,
but I like I like Cayle you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Will you enjoy this fight or not?

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
I don't know. I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Like I'm feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Then let's keep it. Moving to the featherweight division. Pat Sabatini,
at thirty five years old, has one three of four.
It's not over.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
He welcomes Chepe mariska well jeriatric Chepe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
They're trying to see what the upside is Sabatini. If
you're not on the level, he'll find out. He'll audit you.
He's got good backpacking. He can ride, you know, he
can do those kinds of things. But you know when
he went, when he moved up, what's the one lost there?
Kirk my memory or refreshman Pat Sabatini yeat knocked up
by Diego Lopez. Right, so he moves up a little
bit and then he got he got smashed, and I

(01:39:30):
think he's very talented now, like his game, but they're
using him more as a test to see what they've gotten. Chepe,
what do you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Think about this women's Strawway battle? As forty year old
Angela Hill? It's her eighteen and fifteen record against love
Angela Hill, I do too against Fatima claw Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
She's forty and is still in good shape, still training.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
She was showing abs at the media.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Still has a good attitude.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
No, I don't mean in a gross way.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I mean like she's you know how how would that
be a gross way?

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Shee his reaction?

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Is that racist? One? Was that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:40:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Fatima Klein was hanging out with I think she trains
with Aaron Blanchfield. They were doing the media rounds together.

Speaker 5 (01:40:14):
I wonder if if this is an opportunity for Fatima
to make a leap heair against it against her name, right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
I don't know what to say about Angela's career except
I just appreciate her perseverance. Whether she'll win every designated
bout she's in, she's up and down right like yaus.
She wins once she loses one, she wins once loses one.
But the fact that she's hanging around this long, dude,
she was part of the Ultimate Fighter what twenty when
the season when they when they pulled everyone off from Invicta, Like,

(01:40:42):
you know, she's still had her doing her thing. I
I don't know. I don't know if she'll win, but
I respect what she's trying to.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
Klein has won two in a row since losing her
UFC debut to Jazz Davissius.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Is this a story or is this just a fight?
Just be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
I think it's just a fight.

Speaker 6 (01:40:55):
I think I think Angeley Hill is someone that fight
fans should appreciate because she fights anyone. She gives it
a best every time and win or lose like she
comes to fight. She I mean she I think she
made the comparisons herself to cowboys variety. Yes, and you
know the sport needs these people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Have you fathered children on a level of cowboy OLIVERA.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Have I fought the children?

Speaker 6 (01:41:17):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
No, I speak to you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
All right, Well that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Uh to close.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
We've got two more fights, but I don't know if
you care. I mean, I'm gonna open the curtain.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
Jerker excitedly with with Slava clause against Matteas Camillo.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
I've trained in an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
But what about Bisingar.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
I wondered why you were, like Sue Serkaiev, he's making
a little bit of noise.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Bison. I'm a little bit less sold on him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
The middleweight. He's got Eric McConnico in front of.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Him, so he should win this fight. And he's got
good skills, but he's a little too hittable and he's
way over selling how good he thinks he is. That
could be a problem. Maybe not today, maybe not today.

Speaker 7 (01:41:54):
But we now look, you love Bisonar nah, but he's
the biggest favorite on the card.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
He's like minus one thousand. I don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying he's gonna get tripped up here, but
his attitude is a little nicolash.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
All right, all right, let's put awncholage.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Yeah, let's put a wrap on this fantastic show and
a great performance out of everything, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
I'm going to skip the press company.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
Yes, Long Island, Luke, we can catch your live show
theatrics over there at the main card minute with one
Gaffney Pierre correct.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
Correct daff and I are hitt mcsorley's after this oscar
if you want to continue getting some gun otherwise, I
was going to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Say, have you been No, it's the oldest bar in
New York City, maybe the oldest bar in America to
make two beers light and dark. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
And you have to order too at a time. They
don't let you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
That's fine, and there's all over the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Go to the ATM. You'll need cash.

Speaker 7 (01:42:50):
I wanted to say that Jose versus bend the ban
one hundred dollars on the line tomorrow one thirty pm.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
That the championship.

Speaker 7 (01:42:58):
That's the championship, and then will face BC for like
tend like really hold down the title like one hundred
and one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
You know what I feel like, I feel media that
you're so successful.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
Well yeah, I feel like I'm Hoyst Gracie fighting Matt Hughes.
It's like, oh, that's the guy that won back in
the day when like no, when like everyone was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Gonna have it is those of young's goes to everything.
If he doesn't know these answers, he's a bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
I mean I do know how to I do know
how to play this game, though, I do know how
to work for no no, no, nothing, nothing nefarious like that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
So yeah, well we'll check that out, Okay, Luke Thomas,
can people expect on the tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
I have a live chat at eleven am, then live
tape study on my sub stack at one thirty piece.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Lets go, let's go get fired up. No post show Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Oh yeah, watch along for the full main card and
a post fight show on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
I'll be covering at MSG. You can check me out
on CBS Sports HQ. Before and after you're gonna be
at the at the arena. So the camera crew, uh
not for this event, but we're gonna come out with
guns blazed in January right there? Wad you would have
a count before we face their oscar will be their Saturday.
I want to tell you about Morning Combat Dot Shop.

(01:44:03):
Of course, the November exclusive is still available. The dripping
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of an autograph poster, will get Oscar Willis's autograph on
the groin of Luke Thomas and look at that great
combat buddy creation constipated.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
What a great shirt on. Thank you morning Combat dot Shop.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
Get one for your Bola before she kicks it. Also
thank you to the Maclife's Oscar Willis.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
You want anything about your coverage we should be looking
for this week? Same MacLife dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
Yeah, night left called biggest, biggest out in the game,
built on my back, got on a g.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Are you are you going to party with Craig Jones
this week tonight? Are you really?

Speaker 7 (01:44:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
I'll probably just go send you pieces of ship invite me.
I'm cool with you, bro, Come free. I gotta go
home with my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Wait will will you? Will any women of the night
be present tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Yeah? Probably?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
I think when you when you come to DC for
the White House card, we have to we have to
hang out all right, DDE.

Speaker 6 (01:45:02):
One time into Boston, I fucking just didn't go to
bed and went straight to Official way Ins after a
night out with Craig and I remember as al Jamy's
Stirling was weighing and I started having a panic attack
and being like, maybe I should change my lifestyle and
I haven't yet, but anyway, Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
This could be the intervention he's looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Yeah, I have a family, guy, I have a kid
and a wife, and I like I like sleep. I
like I like sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Looks like I like passing out my own bed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
I like farting in the bed and going to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I guess, and he's Luke Thomas. Thank you very much.
Enjoy the fights this weekend. Thank you to our great
sponsors of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Course, Squervos Total Wireless DraftKings.

Speaker 5 (01:45:41):
Thank you to everybody watching on the DraftKings Network. We
totally enjoyed this Trendishionel Blanco today.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
This was real talk like men did. Also, thank you.
Enjoy the fight cards this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Follow us, follow us back here Monday, follow us some more.

Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
We'll be back here Monday eleven am. Easter around the
YouTube to break it all down. Oscar Wells will be
on a plane back to Las Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Might I'll be on a plane, guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
You're flying from here to Qatar.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
A live in the real road lifestyle. This is like
a trucker.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Do you do the bit where you get like all
the miles on one airline.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
Yeah, but Delasa doesn't fucking fly anyway, so I have
to like change airlines.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
So not really.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
I was platinum this year. I won't be next year.
It's sad, nice, sad.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
What do you I mean, what's gonna happen in Cutter
at nighttime with you?

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
It spends modern It's a modern country, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
No, they have an Irish bottel.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
It's a modern country.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
Spends out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
I was talking more about hard drugs.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
I've been told.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
I've been told that they have a lot of prostitutes
and drugs there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Okay, so you'll you'll finish.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Not say this on the before you've crossed customs.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
We do appreciate you're told.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
I didn't say I was gonna take.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
I mean, you know, you've been on the show before.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
You've been in two different documentaries number five and yeah
you have you know in Cleveland. Yeah, it was great,
it was great. Thank you for your contributions to this program.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Yeah, hey, give him the hip hop warrant for.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Everybody. Uh, he's got six years left on this planet.
Enjoy them all.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
Thank you very much for LT and Oscar and the
l I L it's BC. Shout out to No Dear,
no Ken today. Shout out to the other guy who
is Ken today, Matt Snyder.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
We love him as well. Take care of yourselves up here.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
Okay, it's almost the Thanksgiving time, the best holiday of
the year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Get ready enjoy it. Three twenty two. This weekend we
are out of

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