UFC Rio: Charles Oliveira Subs Gamrot, Wants Max Holloway | Alvarez vs Luque | Jaron Ennis KO Win - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh yeah, it's Monday morning. Let's go October thirteenth of
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is wigging out over here. I love it and he careful.
This is Brian Campbell, the best damn combat sports show
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(01:01):
is burning. What a time to be alive and you
get to listen to us right fricking here? Lt uh, Monday, Monday.
Can't trust that day. But you know you have a
little pep in your step today. It seems like did
you just you know, drop one of those feel good
bangers or what what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 4 (01:20):
There are many kinds of dumps, Brian Campbell, as I'm
sure you are well aware. This morning the order of
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It's crazy. Yeah. Keep Luke away from those new Amtrak
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happy man right here. So, uh, that's what we're gonna
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weekend that was. That was from Charles Olivera to one
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(02:18):
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Did you watch UFC he O live over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I saw the main event live and then I watched
everything else basically the day after.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh okay, I watched it live. I would go as
far as saying I enjoyed it. The crowd was nuts.
I mean, bisping made my ears bleed. But you know,
maybe more on that to come, right, we do.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Have I think we do have to talk about that
in topic two. I think it's actually a thing that
like we because they.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Had and talking about that, okay, but like they had, I.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Mean we'll talk.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I mean we'll talk about a topic too, I think
because they had like an on air I mean, I
guess it was a one way spat, but like John
Gooden and Michael Bissy had a bit of like a
a little one of an on air spat.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And let me talk.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, I was a little bit of that, and
it's probably worth having a conversation about.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean we've had a few of those.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Two, We have absolutely had a few. I may have
generated one of those time or two, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So yeah, well done right? There anything else going on
in your personal life that you're willing to tell the people,
including any recent medical diagnoses.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
No, I had a physical. Actually everything came out pretty good.
I was actually pretty impressed by that. I was like,
all right, I'm not I'm not I'm not dying yet.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I'm not bad for a guy with blood in his stool,
right yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And very very regularly at that point, I'm okay, is
just that's not true. That's not true.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's not true at all. No, that's not true. Okay,
big announcement today from the UFC Dana White later this afternoon.
What's your prediction.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
For that announcement? Three twenty three main.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And that's what December sixth, las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I believe that's right, Yes, okay, what are.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
We thinking here? Not not vulk Eve loo Eve.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
So definitely you're one way or the other. You're gonna
get Pantoja, right, Pantoja and Van. I think that's a
foregone conclusion at this point. The question is what you're
gonna put around it now. The conventional thinking is Ilia
Justin will go in January because you want to take
obviously what your best guy in a sport, whoever whatever
you want to call Eliot at this point to like,
you know, start the paramount era off with a huge bang.

(06:39):
That would make sense. But you gotta do something for December.
It's the last pay per view. I think it's either
gonna be Morob defending against somebody peyotor yan yo, yeah yan.
And the other one is people have said vulk Ivloyev,
but then I've seen the people who are more reputable
say that that's not necessarily true.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I think it's.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Gonna be amazing if my understand is correct. The very
last event on the UFC ESPN era is an APEX event,
so the last pay per view could potentially be a
Flywave headliner, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Like that's not out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
We might get Sugar Sean and Yadong on that as well,
so there could be some things worth getting. But I mean,
we got a David Onama, Steve Garcia Man event coming up.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
At the end.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
You can't believe it, like it generally is like what
this is. LFA cards are like have more meaning. Well
that's not quite true, but I.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Mean I've seen xFC cards with one Archiletta in the
Man of Vet, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And looked good, look good doing it, you.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Know, absolutely all right, Hey, why don't we why don't
we just hit it and hit it hard? Here with
topic number one, Hey, it went down in hel dejon Ero,
Brazil on Saturday. Hey, great to see the UFC back
in one of its original hotbeds. The crowd was slow
at first, but boy did they come alive and come

(08:00):
a fire once Charles Predator do Bronx. Olivera got right
back to his winning ways despite losing three out of five,
coming in against Elite Fos, being knocked out just four
months ago by Eliot Taporia in their vacant fight, and
being less than a week from his thirty sixth birthday,
Olivera reminded us who's still got it? It's definitely him

(08:22):
right now in the main event, needing not that much
time to go, cutting through Mateo Scamra like a hot
knife through butter right there, submitting the Polish lightweight in
the second round, and immediately after the fight calling for
a BMF showdown with one Max Holloway. More on that
to come, but LT I think for the second straight

(08:43):
week you felt what I felt from Poeton winning to
sort of restore order to some of our beloved fighters
here at the top of the game in MMA, to
now Olivera, who was fighting off retirement questions leading into
last week, I'd love to know how impressed you were
by what he did to Gamra, But maybe even more importantly,

(09:03):
why was the reaction from the crowd in that arena
to MMA fans around the globe being like, this guy
just won the world championship again. It was a great,
feel good moment.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
It was a it was a triumphant moment. I mean,
I suppose if you asked Charles, I mean, I couldn't
speak for him, but seems plausible that if you asked
him about what are the most high water mark moments
in his professional career, what would they be? And I
suspect that winning a UFC title or even defending it
whatever would be on the order of like the number
one or number two answer. But I got to say,

(09:36):
to your point, BC, maybe it's not. Maybe it's something
like Saturday Night, which was just an absolute insane moment
of ascendency. I mean, I don't know everyone's gonna feel
a little bit differently, but to me, Charles Lavera just
kind of embodies and represents for us MMA joy, the
joy you get from MMA. It seems like so pure

(09:59):
when you get to watch Charles Olivera particularly come back
from very very difficult circumstances. By his own admission, he
kind of very briefly but at least toyed with the
idea of hanging it up. I mean, I was a devastating,
vicious loss, unlike any other he'd ever had in his
very long and storied career. So of course you understand
there was a bit of a homecoming vibe, right that

(10:20):
kind of ups the ante. It's a huge triumphant triumph
the moment because of obviously what he had suffered previously.
But I just think there's something like universal about the
like the language that he kind of speaks as a fighter.
Obviously not verbally, but you know, in broader ways he
is action oriented and he is you know, fun. And

(10:40):
the other part too is like, I know everyone loves
this era where it's everyone's edgy and edge lord shit,
but I think everyone should take a moment and look
around and like Uriprahatchka, Alex Pereira and Charles Olivera. Now,
obviously Alex had some allegations that followed him previously, so
maybe you know that was a little bit more of

(11:01):
a qualified example, but certainly in the case of Yurie
and in Charles, it's the perception that they're kind of honorable, right,
It's the perception that they're kind of gentlemen of the
game in a sense, and I think that that lifts
people's spirits to quite quite candidly, especially in the moment
where the sport where it could be you know, very
feast or famine. So it's a lot of factors working together.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
BC.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Maybe if you disagree, I'd love to hear where, but
I think that they're all working in conjunction to give
you what we all kind of felt. Whether you were
in Brazil, the United States, you speak Portuguese, you speak English,
or any other language, it just felt great.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, people love a comeback story. I get
what you're saying about. Really the class that Charles Olivera brings.
I've already had one of the most inspirational stories from
going from a you know, solid out in the UFC
to that incredible eleven fight win streak and winning the
UFC Lightweight champions You've been doing it in such chaotic,
exciting style. Now to see him come out in a

(11:57):
fight that was essentially a pick em betting wise, yet
those that know were seemingly picking Gambra. Are those that
thought they know, I should say, including us, because he
was streaking. He's thirty four years old at the peak
of his prime, had one four or five and was
really looking like this could be his moment. Gamrock came
in here to play the spoiler, acted it out perfectly,

(12:17):
but what we found instead was an Olivera who was
able to just dial it back like it. I mean,
this was a night for Brazil from Davison Figaredo to
a few others, but man for a fight night with
a former champion that we thought was going in the
other direction. I can't believe it felt this great, not
even good great. Let's see this incredible post fight photo

(12:38):
of Olivera, who had a wild celebration afterwards. Here's him
standing at the stage around the octagon and looking out
at the crowd. Like I said, that crowd started slow. Boy,
did it feel like a major league event that had
Olivera by the way afterwards calling for a stadium fight
with him headlining and Poeton and the Colemane. They got

(13:00):
a lot of UFC fighters, Brazilian or not, cage side
for this. It felt like a big event for a
fight night. Shout out to Charles Olivera forgiving that, and
you may remember him running into the crowd, very comparable
to what Jose Aldo did in Brazil there against Chad Mendis.
I believe, look, you know that moment. This maybe not

(13:21):
as emotional or aggressive, but it was pretty damn close.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I don't think I can remember any any fight night
because this was not a numbered card.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
This was a fight night.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I don't remember any fight night post fight celebration that
rivals that. Now, maybe I'm missing one. There have been
some great fight night mad events, but I just don't
know which one holds weight in the significance that this
one holds.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's remarkable, and look, the numbers are staggering when you
talk about what Olivera has accomplished, in the fact that
he does not seem to be done yet as he
closes in on his thirty six birthday. He's been in
the UFC for fifteen years. He holds records for most appearances.
He's now tied for second with Neil Magni for most
wins in UFC history at twenty four, just three behind

(14:11):
Jim Miller. He already holds in extended his records for
most finishes, most submissions, and most post fight bonuses as well,
Jim Miller closing in on a couple of those categories.
But it's still dough Bronx at this point, or predator
or whatever the heck you want to call him at
the end of the day. Joe Martinez called him dough

(14:31):
Bronx after the win there. But Luke, what did this
tell you? We'll talk about Gamrod and maybe the mistakes
he made stylistically that opened this up. But to see
such a dominant, one sided almost performance here from a
guy who we thought was fading or beginning the fade.

(14:52):
Where do you think this proves that the number number
four ranks coming in? Where does Oliver still stand in
this division? In your eyes?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think he's still I would say viable as an
outside not top or inside, but outside choice for a
title shot, I think, and I know we'll talk about this.
I think the perfect perfect slot is the BMF title.
But like, let's just talk about the ability because what
he showed here is obviously quite important. B See, here's

(15:21):
the funny part about this. On the one hand, you
absolutely have to be heartened by the fact that Olvera
started this fight so aggressively right first of all, his
bet was correct. His bet was, if I just take
the fight to this guy, I'm gonna mow right through him.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He was right right.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
So first of all, he was absolutely connecting the dots
in the right way. The other thing, the reason why
that's a good thing is because obviously after getting viciously chaoed,
a lot of people come back, man, and they just
don't have it in him to have the courage to
exchange or last or you know where, the same resiliency
or fire that they once had. And I didn't see
any evidence of that, like zero at all.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
On the other.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Hand, you do have to consider that, like this is
just kind of the way Olivera fights. He's gonna go
forward against the Pooria when it doesn't make sense. He's
gonna go forward against Islam. He's gonna go forward against Gamrod,
He's gonna go forward against Gates, He's gonna go forward
against anybody. And so the question is whether the styles
make fights. But what it also shows, I think in
the broader picture of BC, especially with that Omaplata series

(16:22):
and obviously his control from the back, dude, he is
still a nightmare matchup if you are not on the
level he is just too good, too well rounded, too
committed to offense and to his jiu jitsu is absolutely instinctual.
The reason why the timing on everything is so good
is because it's just like driving to the grocery store

(16:44):
for him. He doesn't think about whether he has to
put the signal on and turn left and wait on
this road. He can just do it almost freaking blind flolded.
That's why his timing never misses in some of this stuff.
It's a joy to watch him. He's still a threat.
I think those threats have limits, but they have to
be taken seriously too, And that's I think the real
answer BC is again, we'll get to it here. It's

(17:06):
got to be the Max Holloway matchup for me.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we will get to that shortly. One
thing I wanted to interject with though, not that I
want to turn every win into a how does this
reorder the all time divisional rankings or goat ship or whatever,
but I was getting aggressive slack messages from my CBS
Sports colleagues Brandon Wise and Bret Brett Brookhouse from the
idea that like, holy shit, olivera might be the second

(17:28):
best lightweight ever and I'm like, no, no hold on
love him, but like there's Habib Islam has four title defenses.
Unfortunately we didn't get to see Islam fight sar Yuki
in on the way out or Toporia in that division.
But you know, you've also got the lingering legend of
bj Penn. You've also got guys like Frankie Edgar and
Benson Henderson who had three title defenses each. But now

(17:51):
the more I start to think about it, that impressive
run of eleven wins went through a lot of big names.
I know, one win over Gamrot shouldn't change to this
conversation that aggressively. But whether olivera is long for the
elite title picture or not, you have to believe this
guy's gonna fight until he's forty, and you have to
believe by then he's going to have every single UFC

(18:13):
record of longevity on lockdown. I do wonder at the
end of the day, where he is going to catapult
himself historically, especially if he's not as close to sliding
down that hill that is inevitably coming for him than
we thought coming in. I mean, how much do you
think about the totality of everything Oliver has.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Accomplished, it's significant, I would have I mean in order
to under I mean, I feel like Brent and and
and wise are they they are keen observers of the sport.
So I'd be curious to hear more about why they
think he could be number two? What like, what are
they are they basing that on? Not just what he
has accomplished, but then like the level of skill he's shown,

(18:57):
how are they weighing that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think they're using all of the above. I pushed
back against it, but then I start to do the math,
and I'm like, I don't know exactly where you'd put him,
and I don't think he's a better lightweight than Islam.
They went head to head and you know, close enough
to their relative primes there that. But what I'm basically
saying is whether they're right or wrong, the conversations are
going to change anyway, the more he puts distance on

(19:22):
these records that he's getting. And yeah, soon he'll have wins.
He'll have wins soon.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, we are talking about the guy with the
most finishes in UFC history and the most submission wins
in UFC history. To exclude him automatically, for example, from
the top two, it's like, Wow, the guy who's done
this the most, you know what I mean, Like you
would automatically have to place that guy in very high esteem.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think the thing that might be missing.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
For me is and I don't really know how to
weigh this stuff, because a guy like Olavera is just
going to hang around for a while, and because he
is so good bec he's going to do things like
he did on Saturday. Now I can't do that to
islam raast he did when he had the opportunity, but
he's definitely going to just mow through guys like Camra
who we are very very good fighters.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's like Habib didn't give us that. But what Habib did.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Is one he gave us basically basically a flawless run,
and it only got better as it went along, Like
we didn't recede really on the way up, not much.
And then the other part is like he kind of
helped like either usher in the game or I think
helped facilitate bigger changes in how the game was pursued.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You can't can't exactly say that about Charles.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
He's got a bit of a unique flare that isn't
more like systemic or broad. However, to the point we
raised previously, we're talking about the guy who's literally the
best finisher the UFC has ever seen. Gotta be something
you could say for that.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, I mean he's gonna have that win record. He's
got a lot of records going on. So shout out
to Doe Bronx. One more delay before we get to Holloway.
I didn't want to circle back on Gambra Luke. I
loved how game he was. I loved his willingness to
call out for this fight. I loved a lot of
his demeanor within the Brazilian chance of you will die
and all this stuff. Ultimately, though, willing to fight Olivera

(21:02):
at his most dangerous spot, and boy did that catch
up with him. And not to mention, when the fight
was on its feet, I thought he would have a
little bit more success keeping Olivera off of him, and
he didn't. Olivera was lighting him up with punches. Now
credit to Gamra. In the start of that second round,
you did start to se or maybe it was the
end of the first, you did start to see some
nice counter right hands and he was at least holding

(21:25):
his zone on the feet, but I feel like he
had almost too confident, too much confidence in himself on
the ground, and he found out he after round and
he found out.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Uh, there's no question he after around and found out.
I Mean, here's the thing you have to kind of
consider about Gamrot is that people are gonna say, oh, well,
it's because he couldn't do well enough in the striking
that he had to go to the wrestling, which is
there's an element of truth to that, right, he obviously
doesn't have the stand up skills. Now, not everyone's gonna
have the stand up skills that Charles does, but it

(21:58):
was like he had almost nothing right, there's no real
I think there was a couple of times Olavera tried
to double jab backhand and he got hit with one
time coming in like that, but he walked right through it, right,
So it wasn't that big of a deal. But the
reality is two on the ground BC. Like if you
look at Gamrock's record, for example, he's got a k
over Scott Holtzman I was in twenty twenty one, and

(22:19):
then he had a submission over Jeremy Stevens which was
also in twenty twenty one. But like basically since Let's
see twenty twenty two against Ryuki and daryush Jalen Turner.
He beat physibe, but that was off an injury are Rda,
Dan Hooker, Klein. All those fights were decision And what
it tells me is the pursuit of jiu jitsu, in

(22:39):
the pursuit of ground and pound in grounded positions was
also not enough of a development for him. Like the
way in which he's been winning is sort of the
establishment of control positions that he could maintain even if
he had to change them through the course of a round.
But it could more or less maintain and could more
or less, you know, do some work to to you know,
have not the ref he stands you up or whatever,

(23:01):
but not enough to really like really put it on opponents,
not consistently, and that curd him too. This is the thing, man,
It's like skilled development. It's not a question of whether
Gamrat works hard. There's no doubt in my mind he
works hard. But has he trained in a way the
last five years, for example, that put him in a
position to really develop his ground and pound positional advancement
the offensive dilemmas between the two. I don't know what

(23:24):
the evidence for that would necessarily be.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, it it and you knew it right away. You
knew it right away that he was a step behind Olivera.
That it was that maybe if he could build it
toward five rounds, he could figure out a long term thing,
especially if he could try to tire Olivera. But he
never got there, and that's a credit to the new predator,
the old Doe Bronx. Call him what you want. So

(23:48):
speaking of calling him, of course, it was a call
out afterwards for Max Holloway. And that's a great, great fight,
a great storyline given that they fought so many years
ago at a different division and Holloway getting a win
at a time where Olivera. What was the injury Luke
that that that led to that victory for Max.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It was like a neck injury.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
It was like esophagus or something.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, he grabbed like his neck or his throat and
it was weird. It was.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
And this was remember so this was also in Charles Olavera.
It's gonna sound crazy to say, but back then it
was true. It's not true anymore. He was a little flaky, you.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
He was like he would have weird performances, he'd get
kind of injured, he would just kind of fall apart.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
This is in the middle of that stretch. Even though
he was still pretty good back then.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Some people thought he was a quitter. He would obviously
proved that wrong during his title run for sure. But
the idea that you know, you had Charles calling out
Connor McGregor before this fight for a White House BMF fight,
this makes more sense against Max. It does, potentially, though,
leave Patty Pimblet out of a major fight at this moment.
If we're gonna get Ilia versus Justin Gatchee potentially in January,

(24:54):
which you hear some rumors, we already know we're getting
Saraiki and versus Hooker coming up for a quasi number one,
a tender fight based upon who wins and how good
they look. Patty's still in that mix, but looking for
a fight. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense for
both men, Holloway and Oldavera, to do with the star power,
the fact that they both still got a great amount
left under that hood in their in their mid thirties.

(25:15):
Here we got an almost instant reaction from Max Holloway,
who streamed live on What was It kick or twitch
or one of those things. Afterwards, do we have the.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Video or the or the video?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
All right, let's check in on Max's reaction to this.
I know, Bro, I know, I know already.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
I see the chat. You know, Bro, we're here, Bro,
we heard the call out. Tell them funny time hotelling.
Now bre have have a fight the White House.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
So long to wait it?

Speaker 7 (25:45):
He's such a long wait, you know what I mean?
And make no promises though it'd be a fun one.
And we've been talking about this fight. Me and him
have a history. He's blaming it on some type of injury.
I guess we'll get to five figure it out. No,
I guess we get to figure it out now. Huh,
Man is good not good? Man is getting better. My

(26:06):
man is getting better, and we're just we're just waiting
to get cleared. I haven't really got back on the
match yet. I've been doing some straining conditioning, but that's
about it.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Later so.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Uh. He would go on to say that he would
prefer this fight in March. Do you think the UFC
would put this as a pay per view main event
given the star power for March?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I mean, they got to do well again, CBS star
Power in March.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You know what I mean, at the point pl star Power.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, l that's right. Yeah. So I mean, I don't
know how they're gonna They got to do something like listen,
January is the first of the year and June is
the sixth. You got four months in between there. You
got to fill out some you know, numbered shows or
whatever you want to call him. I just feel like
it'd be a great opportunity if he doesn't want to
compete at the White House because it's too long of
a way, because it's you know, essentially you're in Q two.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
At that point, right or Q three excuse me? So
you know, yeah, I totally get it. I totally get it.
So I would be totally I'd listen. The sooner the
better as far as I'm concerned. As you heard him say,
his hand is still messed up. He's doing strength and conditioning.
He's not fully back to training and whatnot, but he can.
He intimated in the video bec he was like, that's
too long of a wait, it's too long of a wight.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, let's do it. Fire him up.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah. Holloway has actually won four of his last five,
the only loss being that Tapooria knockout the first time
he was stopped in their lightweight or in their featherweight
title fight. Right now, of course, to Poria atop this division.
I mean, could you see though, if this fight happens,
does the winner get get a title shot immediately due
to that star power connection and the fact that both

(27:35):
are rated in the top five.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It depends what they do with Patty.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
That's really that's right, right, because if you're keeping Patty
out of this January debut, if that's the way they go,
then you could be looking at a I mean, if
you don't need to put it on the White House card,
but we can make it a main event at any point.
Obviously Patty versus Elia, and that's a major, big ordeal. Look,
how different do you think this fight would look Olivera
versus Holloway with these versions of them right now in

(28:02):
this division? Say that again, how different would Olavera Holloway
to look now that they are advanced in age and
at the lightweight division.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I just can't imagine it would look like the first fight.
I mean, you know, one never knows. Mma is crazy.
Max wasn't nearly as good then as he is now.
Certainly he has more miles, that's obviously a part of
it too. However, he's significantly more skilled. And if you
didn't really again, if you didn't really know Charles Lavera
back then, it was not in any way obvious that
this guy, you knew he was going to be a
submission threat and go for it, but you thought that

(28:33):
might actually physically cost him because of how much he
was getting hit and how much it really affected, you know,
even fights he won. It was just kind of like
a brutal slog. He has significantly improved. Yeah, I mean
this fight BC, this fight could be an amazing fight.
It could be on par what you know, if you
didn't know they were actually weight class champions, it might
look like it was.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm not gonna say as good as fighting gets.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
But absolutely no reason to not make this one, to
be foolish not to.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, it's interesting because the UFC doesn't prioritize Brazil these days.
Do they not even have a TV deal there? Still?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I don't know the current state of it. I mean,
they did have the biggest one they were on Globo,
but that one' respired.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
But you know there it isn't the type of nation
where they can charge, you know, insanely high ticket prices.
You don't see a lot of pay per views are
now plis go there anymore. Although we did just see
what UFC three to Zho one was the last one.
You've got maxwaning UFC badly to go to Hawaii, but
there's some logistical issues there. Do you believe the UFC
would do what olivera is asking to put him in

(29:34):
someone like Poeton on a doubleheader and go do a
big ass stadium there? Probably not right?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Probably not? You know again, the one thing that I've
been thinking about and I don't know the answer to this,
and you know, maybe you can tell me if there's
a lesson to be learned from the professional wrestling side,
which is, and we've talked about this before, in a
world of pay per view, obviously we already know the
UFC will take pay per views to Australia, they'll take
them to you know, regularly, they'll take them to the
Middle East and the Emirates. You know, they've taken them

(30:03):
to Brazil. But in general general, and of course you
know you kke up a few times as well, in
general they happen in North America, which is not an
accident because the overwhelming majority of the pay per view
buying audience has been in North America. But if pay
per view goes away, now, yes, if you're on CBS,
then obviously your product needs to be catered to what
CBS is going to prefer. But let's say it's a
numbered EVENTBC that doesn't necessarily air on CBS, which again

(30:27):
I know there's some lack of clarity about in a
case like that, why do you have to have it
in North America? Now Again, if you're going to have
it at some crazy time like for you know, it's
perfect time for the Japanese audience, your viewership will suffer
and to the extent that they have to really maintain
those viewership numbers, maybe what I'm about to say doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
The point I'm just trying to make, or at least a.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Question I'm trying to ask anyway, is to what extent
does removing the pay per view component free the UFC
up to play with geography of their main events and their.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Events more depends upon At the end of the day,
I think it still depends upon how much is that
city or country paying for the site fee and how
much do they believe they can make on the live
gate with ticket prices.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
But like, I mean, but that part too though, is
like I mean again, we can debate, like what is
the right amount for the UFC to be hosting events
on Brazil? What does that mean? How many events annually
does that look like? And that's a debate you can have.
But just in terms of being a talent pipeline, Brazil
is an extremely important market, maybe one of the most,

(31:30):
if not the most important markets in the world. Even
if you're not bringing shows there because you can maximize
ticket prices, certainly, maintaining a presence in that market is
a kind of investment you have to pay to maintain
that spot or maintain that hotbed of talent at the
levels that it that it is, right, isn't that part
of going there?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I agree? I mean that is a MMA, you know,
BJJ and MMA mad Country. Just life's part of the culture,
part of the lifestyle obviously along with football, Luke and yeah,
Urt a lot of curview women too. You gotta, you gotta,
you know, you do have to speak out on that one.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, I mean you were you were like yo yo
these uh i can't even do it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I can't even do it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Don't be putting them ruskies down, Luke, Okay, picking them
up instead. All right, let's get grosser. No one more
thing from OLIVERA the dad. How about that moment with
his son. I thought he was going to drop him
when he palmed his kid, and it was very lion
King asked Luke, you're a hashtag girl, dad, what do
you think about this?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
You know, I'm typically of the belief that there should
be limited conditions under which babies are brought into the
UFC octagon, you know, just for all party's sake. However, well,
Risky and I did take a bit of a breath
watching this.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think all's well. That ends.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, you're not progressive enough to argue for a an
in octagon birth during a fight. That's not something you're
looking for.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think there's plenty of blood already. I don't know
if we need to add that.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, you know, people that don't know about the floor
of an operating room post pregnant.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's a murder scene. It's a murder scene. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
By the way, I saw on Netflix. I saw on Netflix.
Do you see the new BTK Killer.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Documentary I have not no So, dude, you.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Remember the BTK killer, Like he was in the seventies.
He was killing a bunch of women and stuff in Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Sam, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (33:24):
No, No, BTK buying torture kill. He kills a bunch
of people in the seventies. A bunch of dudes try
to take claim for it, and he actually writes a
new station and being like, no, no, it's me, And
then he includes details that only he could possibly know,
and he loves the attention. He keeps doing it, but
it stops for like twenty years. He does it again
in the nineties, but then eventually he gets caught. Dude,
his daughter, he had a daughter. His daughter speaks about

(33:46):
her his dad or her dad, excuse me, and it's uh,
it's insane. It's absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
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(34:37):
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
That is? I'll double check, all right?

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Of course, the the sirah Gan challenging Tom aspinof for
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(35:17):
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Speaker 4 (35:22):
He has to Jed told us, and he told us
to tell you guys this, that he has unbearable crab
lice and has to go for a medical procedure to
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Speaker 2 (35:34):
So yep, we wish him the best.

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All right, let's keep it going down there in hel
where we did see by the way, the King of Hio,

(35:58):
Jose Aldo, officially laid down those gloves for the final time,
family around him. Look, we don't get weird ceremonial things
like that in the UFC too often. That one felt good, right.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
It did feel good. I actually was very heartened to
see this. I thought this was a very classy gesture
by them, seemed well received by all parties.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well done.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, Jose had a tear in his eye, but he
earned it. He deserved it. All right, Let's go back
to the main card. The co main event there or
one of the featured fights. Sorry. Joel Alvarez, the Spaniard
moving up to welterweight. He was more than a five
to one betting favorite against a Vicente Luk, who we
were wondering there at age thirty three whether he still

(36:36):
had it wow. Alvarez lit him up from pillar to post.
There was a referee controversy built into that, and that
led to a little bit of a tussle on the
microphones that we mentioned earlier. But first and foremost Luke.
This stops a streak for Joel Lvarez, who had finished
every single opponent he has beaten in his MMA career.

(36:57):
But it was weird in round three where he had
a headset on Luke and both guys seemed to be
content to sort of just sit there with it the
fight goes the distance. I was overall impressed with Alvarez.
A lot of people on my timeline were like impressed,
No where do you come in on that? On his
one sided drubbing, I mean beat Luke. It beat the

(37:18):
shit out of him Luke, and that's a guy who
who fought some big names right there. I was impressed
by Alvarez. His welterweight debut.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, I mean he beat him like a drum. I'm not, honestly, Like,
I'm not. Why is this his fault? Of all the
people you could blame for, Like why that fight ended
up the way that it ended up, Why would it
be his fault?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I don't get that. He was crisp, his boxing was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Like I get it, Oh he didn't. He didn't go
there and maul Luke in round three. Okay, he didn't
go in there and when it looked like he could
have mauled him, It's like, did y'all see what happened
to him in rounds one and then then especially rounds two?
Like the guy clearly took mercy on him. And I
know you're not supposed to, but there's been circumstances where

(38:04):
people do that, and you know, I don't love all
of them either, but in this one, I kind of
get it. Like the dude the guy he was fighting,
had talked about brainybe We had a brain skin issue
that held him out for a little bit BC and
it was a brain bleed issue, I believe, So Like, yeah,
I totally get why he would actually soft pedal it

(38:24):
in round three, I realized that's boring to watch and
it's not what he should be doing.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
He's supposed to be advancing the fight.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
The referee could have taken a point from him, to
be perfectly honest, like that would have been well within
the right to do, but it didn't. Again, once again,
there's a lot of other people you could blame for this.
You want to put a little bit on Joel Alvarez, fine,
but it seems to me like there's a lot of
other things that happened here too, dude.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I mean, look, we're gonna we're gonna get right into
this referee controversy. But first and foremost, I'm it's sad
to see Luk who's always been an action fighter, who's
always brought it to names better and bigger than him,
and you know, he's won some, he's lost some, but
he's not lost. He came in losing three out of
his last five and being stopped in all three. He
probably would have gotten stopped here if that weird you know,

(39:06):
leg choke wasn't going on around his neck. I mean
sad to say it, Luke, but he kind of looks
past it here at age thirty three.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, it was an inverted triangle that he had.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
He just didn't finish it. But I was an inverted triangle.
Luk needs to consider his health here.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
You know everyone always says, oh, you can't tell another
guy to retire. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I'm not his mom. I can't do that. But what
I can say is he's taking the kind of damage
that either is already or soon will and probably already has,
going to affect his quality of life later on in life.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Like this is.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
If this was in pursuit of winning efforts for the
sports highest honors and paychecks, this would be something of
a very different conversation. But we're not there. That's not
what's happening. This is an extraordinary amount of damage. For Yes,
is Luk a good fighter. He's a very quality fighter.
Everybody knows that. But the kind of performances he's turning
in are not super high quality. They're not up to
the standard that we know him to sometimes be, and

(40:06):
they're coming at extraordinary costs. This is the very moment
where some reflection about what you want to do with
your life. Remember, b see, he speaks multiple languages, he's
done some commentary work. He is very articulate. He's clearly
quite bright, but there's there's some thought that needs to
go into like saving these things like a Chris al
Jeri did for use in life later, and the kinds
of ways that can reward you.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I don't know if he's having those conversations, but he needs.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
To immediately agree. I think that's well said right there.
It's kind of shocking to see his face. I mean, look,
he's getting hit too much. His face doesn't hold that
resistance well. And in the first round he took a
left short left hook that ultimately the knuckle hit him
right in the eye. He would react as if he
was poked. He probably thought in real time he was.

(40:50):
But Luke local Brazilian referee whose name I do not
currently have.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I think it's oh Cyrus Myra.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, he Ocyrus Myra could not have botched this more.
He's stopped the action. It is kind of instantly discovered
upon replay that this was from a clean punch, not
a poke. Instead of restarting the fight, he then allows
the KG side doctor to come in to examine the eye,
giving Luke an unnecessary amount of time to recover before

(41:17):
we get into Bisping's over reaction. What do you make
of the handling of this referee and are we all
correct to say he should have just restarted the fight
the moment that the replay official let him know that
this was a clean shot.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Dude, I gotta say, like, and I realized, they're not
in North America where people can say that this might
I don't know if people think this is I'm like,
obviously there are great judges and referees who aren't in
North America, but the centerpiece of how MMA rules came
to be and the culture around that did come from

(41:52):
the United States. Again not exclusively, but the vast majority
of that. So, like, the best training typically is there,
the best referees, of course not always, but typically can
be there. Or again you can get somebody like Mark
Goddard who's been training in you know, in those places
and abroad. Anyway, the point'm trying to make is there's
a bit of a trade off when you go to
Brazil in terms of the if you're gonna use local referees,

(42:12):
what kind of quality you're gonna get. So that's partly
what's happening here. But yeah, this was a don't you
just feel like, I mean, I'm not saying that over
the years, I haven't witnessed improvements in real ways to
various forms and jobs within the officiating world. At the
same time, I'm not sure if I felt like referee

(42:34):
work was sloppier than it is now, and generally I
go for everything.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
They're making obvious mistakes, I like, not even in ways
where you could say, okay, well, maybe the Commission is
universally telling them to focus on this. It's a wildcard.
It's a giant buffet of buffoonery.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yes, you just never know what you're going to get.
You're never gonna know if the rule is gonna even
if two plays like because it's one problem if you
have let's say State X and State why, and they
actually have different rules, right, that's kind of a problem.
But if you actually have a place where X and
Y have different referees but the same rules, you might

(43:12):
expect some variants, but it should be closer. And it
feels like we're just not getting that with at least
in this case, with osirus MAYA and plenty of other places.
And again even last week we had Keith Peterson or
whatever whatever one goes whatever it was his last time
out Keith Peterson just absolutely categorically refusing to take a
point or beyond. You know, there's four foulsers, like even

(43:35):
a minor but real headbutt between rounds, and they're not
doing anything. Either they're not enforcing the rules BC, or
they're enforcing them selectively, or they're just making it up
as they go. We saw that submission a couple of
weeks ago. It was where the referee didn't count it
but then did, or maybe it was the opposite something
like that. What was that long Island Luca card Like
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Ago it was Neil Magni, j Magne's.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
And Jake Matthews. They're just making this shit out as
they go. They're not enforcing the rules. And he missed
this one, John Gooden. I'm sure we'll get into it now,
but John Gooden was right. Once you realize after replay, hey,
he actually guess he did get hit in the eye,
but it was some more a legal punch. There is
no time out on your feet and fight it out
or quit. What those are your choices And to your point, BC,

(44:19):
that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, And I think we all said we're gonna talk
about Lucas Almada's broken hand, but Jason Herzog let him
get hung out to dry in this card as well,
and just take a beat in before that stoppage. But
let's talk about the reaction here. Look, I got nothing
personal against Michael Bisping, and but I have been on
record and saying that he's probably my least favorite UFC
Live fight commentator. Think he's a great personality on a desk.

(44:43):
I loved him on the Fox Studio show. They used
to have, you know, established podcaster, all that legend of
the sport. But to use a two man booth involving
him is just asking for more mayhem than you already get.
And what do I mean by mayhem? I just mean
from a broadcasting standpoint, the guy doesn't follow the traditional lanes.

(45:04):
He acts as if he's the play by play guy
and the color commentator throughout the entire broadcast and leaving
scraps for the third person usually and talks over everyone
and all a lot, a lot of things that from
a mechanical technical standpoint of broadcasting is tough to listen to.
This one in particular, though, when it was a two
man booth with just him and John Good, and they

(45:25):
had Heidi andrel of course, as the ringside report creates
side reporter, but Bisping was just snappy, I mean, yelling
at Gooden to let him talk. The key part was
about this referee time out in round one, where Bisping
was arguing that it should have been a TKO win
for Alvarez. I think he was intimating that Luke had

(45:46):
like quit, but Luk, I'm assuming thought he was poked.
So it was obviously a confusing scenario, one in which
the referee made harder by allowing that doctor to come in.
But to hear Gooden, who's you know, seem like a
class guy, seems like a solid announcer, just get talked
down to by bis being and when Good's just trying

(46:07):
to explain to him that the fight should have continued, Luke,
Is there an argument for what Bisping is saying that
the fight should have been a stopished? Because I don't
agree with that under any interpretation of the rules. And
even further, is there an argument that this guy shouldn't
be rained in more? Because I'm not gonna say my
ears are bleeding, but it's not a it's non enjoyable.

(46:27):
Listen it's it's ten minute stories. It's it's taking something
simple and describing every part of it in a circle
and a loop to the you know, leaving others the
out of the opportunity to speak. It's too much, dude,
it's too much.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, I mean a few things I would say on this,
just as a general observation, BC, I'm just gonna say this.
I think it's way too often that you've got UFC
fighters in commentary roles who consistently seem to struggle with
rules knowledge. Right here, you have a case where John
Good never fought. He does train jiu jitsu, but has

(47:02):
never fought, just took it upon himself to learn the rules.
He was the one unless there's just a special set
of rules that cab MMA has that's the Brazilian which
I don't believe is the case the Brazilian Commission. He
was the one arguing correctly. And this isn't just you know,
specific to one commentator, and not all of them, by
the way, I think there are some that do. But
you know, I just feel like there's a lot of

(47:22):
these athletes who obviously are very talented broadcasters, certainly very
talented fighters, and think that that is just enough to
carry the day, and it's not. Understanding what the rules
are in a commentary position is critical and it is
I'm frankly non negotiable. You you don't have to have
the most insane command, but a basic literacy of them
is important. And what Michael Bisson was arguing is to

(47:44):
my knowledge, not correct. It was what John Gooden was arguing,
which was once the referee ascertains that this was an accident,
the point at which you're having a time out immediately ceases,
and you either start the fight again or you can
you know, if he doesn't want to continue, then the
fight's over. But those are those the only choices that remain.
Let me say something BC as somebody who has you know,
may or may not have snapped at his.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
His on air co host.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Let he who is, without sending cast the first stone
in a circumstance like this, you know, I have actually
done something relatively recently, as a matter of fact, just
kind of like this, maybe even worse. So I'm not
gonna sit here and beat up Missing for that, because
I don't. I'm not the person for that. I have
my own issues. What I can say, though, is having
lived through that experience a little bit is maybe to say,

(48:31):
you know, you got to take a look in the
mirror and realize it doesn't matter why you felt the
need to say that.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's unacceptable. You know.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
And again you and I and even spirited debate can
happen in a commentary booth. Absolutely spirited debate, I think
is something that the listeners on occasion would actually be
up for. But snapping at each other that's different. That's
a different thing. And if you're doing that, it's incumbent
upon the person doing it to take a look in
the mirror and examine why do they need to have
a talk privately off camera about some friction that might

(49:01):
be exsting.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I mean, I'm making something up. I don't even know
if that's it.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
I'm just saying, whatever it is, you got to take
it upon yourself to solve that issue. And then lastly,
the thing I would say bec is just about the talking.
It's like I think, you know, and again I'm I
do a little bit of a commentary. I don't make
any claims about how good I am. And in fact,
the last show I had two bad fuck ups that
are kind of eating at me a little bit. I'm
not saying this is somebody who's got this shit figured out.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Far from it.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
You're better than me on the boxing, well, far better
than me on the boxing side, and commentary, I think
more broadly, so I think you can speak with a
little bit of more authority. But what I am gonna
say is just a lesson I've learned. And I do
think you're right. If there's a criticism you can make
of this being it's he simply talks too much. It's
just too much talking. And I think a lot of
broadcast situations can be improved by just having a little

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bit less to say.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I agree, I agree. I think if he can learn
to speak in sound bites and make those those sounds matter,
he'll he'll be more beloved and will allow his personality
to come on. And I've said this before and I'll
say it once more. I also think he's a natural heel.
It's just his personality. You can be that natural heel
as a color announcer, especially as a former fighter, lean

(50:11):
into that. Just don't dominate the broadcast, That's all we're
saying there. Uh Luke. There was this Luk moment after
round two where it seemed like he was telling his
corner that he did not want to continue, or he
wasn't sure. Do you think there's an argument for a
stoppage there in this Alvarez fight.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I mean, it's definitely worth asking the question, and I'm
glad you did. I don't know what the answer is here,
because I respect Henry Hooft, I certainly respect vincente Luke.
I don't know the ins and outs of what they
have said to each other in the corner, because here's
one thing, I've jumped the gun on this kind of
stuff before, and then come to find out that there'll
be certain contours of a relationship you don't fully appreciate,

(50:50):
that certain language will sound really bad.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Uh, and then.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
It's a little less clear when you actually do some digging.
On the other hand, we also know it to be
true that in my judge, well okay, I believe is
better maybe way a better way to put that BC
that there are not enough proactive corner stopping fights in MMA.
Now again, Joel Alvarez didn't do a whole lot to
be sent he in the third, but somebody else might have.

(51:16):
And I think he got away with one. And he
was asked like how are you feeling? And he said
not good? I believe long I looked at it.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Get that right? He said not good between the second and.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Third round, Yeah, something like that. I don't remember exactly
what he said.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Well enough, yeah, I mean it's just it's a very
simple kind of it's it sounds overly simplistic, BC, but
it's like if you ask the guy how they're doing
and they can't even like fake a good maybe maybe
they shouldn't be out there, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. To close on
Joe Joel Alvarez here in his welterweight debut, improving to
eight and one over his last nine. Here is Joel
reacting to this victory. Look, I like that. He's not

(52:58):
going to entertain a cup back down once more. Welterweight
is his future? Is the future bright for him? This
is a deep division. It's probably the deepest from one
to fifteen that we have. I release. It felt like
that about three four months ago. Is this guy sort
of an instant contender in your eyes?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Well? I was hardened by this. I don't know again, Okay, fine,
you didn't love the third round out there? All right?
Who did? But he didn't look small.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Okay, Luke is not the biggest welterweight, but he didn't
look it anyway. Alvarez outgunned out physically sized at one's seventy,
he seemed like pretty appropriate. He looked fast, he looked sharp.
You know, again, there's criticisms to make of him, like
there is any fighter, but I don't know, it seemed
like to me, I was like, wow, he actually looked
like he could do something here. And again the fact
that he just kind of annihilated Luka in the second round,

(53:45):
I was actually I left this whole thing being pretty
hardened about his welterweight campaign and BC thirty two years old.
You know, I don't know exactly how good Alvarez is
gonna be, but he's a tough out. He's certainly a
violent guy. You're adding to an already super stacked welterweight division. Yeah,
I don't know what the problem is.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, I like him. I think he's fun. I think
now he's not gonna have the thing hanging on him
of the weight cuts of it dragging him down. I mean,
we might be seeing that with drawn Boutsennes. By the way,
now at one fifty four, we'll get to that. How
he just looks like he's not carrying that physical burden anymore.
Here's a tweet though about that third round in which
the fans did not love here from Geera may Cruz.

(54:23):
Alvarez has the inverted triangle locked in but obviously won't
finish Luk from that position. So crowd is now chanting, Hey, referee,
fuck you. I mean, look what do you do? In
that spot? Alvarez is clenching the cheeks to try to
get the tap. Obviously Luke is okay. Like in that
spot he gave the thumbs up. It felt like both
were content to just ride it out.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, both were contended to ride it out.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
There's no and this this kind of goes back to,
like you, if your fighter is suffering but still wants
to compete, then it's a really more difficult question, and
you probably err on the side of letting them compete.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
But Luke wasn't.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
It didn't look to me like he had like competitive
fire in that answer between the second and third rounds.
And then look at look what he turned in on
the third BC. Yeah, like did that look like he
had Like did that look like somebody who was trying
to win.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I would submit to you it was not no.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Tough to see there, but big win for Joel Alvarez.
Let's transition to topic number three, which is the rest
of the UFC Fight Night Rio card from Saturday. And
in that Colemane event, Boy, did we have a streaking
Montel Jackson having won six in a row, looking to
crack into the ranked portion and the title contending portion
of this bandamweight division. He took on a former two

(55:37):
time Flyway champion in Devison Figaredo, who had a lot
of questions coming in from age to recovering from the
knee injury in the illness that had him looking not
so great against Corey Sanhagen. But on a night where
we would find out we didn't know what we thought
we knew about Charles olivera same thing could be said
in this Colemane. How about Figi bouncing back getting the

(55:58):
split decision victory, eyeing on his wrestling early and then
just using the threat of the wrestling to keep Montel
at bay from distance. The fight was not overly exciting,
particularly down the stretch where it looked a little bit
more like a sparring match. But Luke, you don't see
people at this advanced age in a division this small

(56:19):
retaining contendership like this. I mean, we're even shocked there
what olivera just did at lightweight. How I don't know
if happy or proud are the right words, but what
were you in your fields? After Figgie bounced back and
got the win right.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Here, I was happy for him, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I was very happy for him. It was a nice
feel good moment.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
He turned thirty eight and two months by the way.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yeah, it's amazing that he is as competitive as he
is the stage. You can see why he won a
UFC title right that level of we talked about with Charles, like,
you can see why he won a UFC title. It's
not really a mystery. At the same time, it's like,
did this win make me feel like, oh, he's back?
You know, I wouldn't say I got that. I thought
he was coming back a little bit too quickly from

(57:06):
his knee injury.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Again he won.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
I thought Montel Jackson was, you know, sort of stubborn
as an opponent, which makes it hard to look good against.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Maybe you feel differently if you do, please say so.
But I just didn't watch this and go, oh, well, yeah,
I mean, let's, you know what, two more good wins,
he's back in the title contention.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Feel that I took it more as I didn't think
he's not as far out after losing two straight fights
against good opponents that I assumed he was at this age.
I mean, he's so undersized for this division, yet he's
able to control distance, He's able to use the thread
of that right hand. In this fight, he used the
threat of that wrestling. I thought it was a smart
veteran performance, but if you want to be real, the

(57:47):
real thing we learned about this is that Montel Jackson
isn't ready for prime time. Unfortunately for him. I mean, look,
hands the size of you know, giant ass water melon basketballs,
like just monstrous hands that didn't trans late in this fight.
It was an underwhelming performance for an American at a
time when American mma can use a boost.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think that this is more to me.
You're asking who I learned more about. I learned more
about Jackson the fact that this was a great step
up opportunity, and again he didn't look shabby.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
He just couldn't get much done.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
And to your point, B see, that also certainly speaks
to Figaredo's level of, you know, even baseline ability. But
you know, if you're not able to win those kinds
of fights against a guy who is older in Figaredo
and coming off of a pretty devastating injury, you know,
there's some pretty significant questions about your upside at that point.
So unfortunately, that's kind of the lesson that I took.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Hey, Long Island, Looke, we had tears in the eyes
of Figaredo. Were you not feeling anything? Because I was.
I was happy for the guy.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
I was happy for him. I did throw in before
the fight started a former.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Champ parlay Figgie and Olivera was like plus six hundred,
so I was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, not bad right there? All right, let's go further
on down the card. What a debut for the lady
goat of Brazilian jiu jitsu. We're talking about former decorated
Hall of Fame Brazilian jiu Jitsu champion and practitioner be
A Mosquita, who, at age thirty four, scored a dominant
win in her UFC debut against somebody who will show

(59:21):
and have you seen this shit is becoming one of
my favorite crazy undercard fighters. And that's that's Rocket Ronda,
Russian rocket Arena alex Eva. Look this was one sided.
We got be a mesquite mestita going to full mount
and just I mean look that time she had her
the arm trapped around.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
What do you call that gift rep.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
The she gift rep the shit out of her in
full mount, reigning down strikes. I'm not ready to put
her in there against Kayla Harrison, but to make a
transition from a dominant run in one discipline of martial
arts now to the highest level of UFC pretty impressive
to kick off the career in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
What about y Yeah, that gift rapp was real nice.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I mean one of the things you know, I'm an
old piece of shit and IBC, but one of the
things I learned when I used to roll back in
the day with very very good people is they don't
just break your grip. They break your grip and then
keep it and they keep it for themselves. If you'll
notice there's a moment where she peels back on the
blade of the hand Alexeva's arm and then uses that

(01:00:23):
to then she peels it and then controls it right.
So it's just sort of it just reminded me like this.
You know, every part of her jiu jitsu game is
just obviously high, high quality, but it's those little details
about you know, the thing, the things that good ones
do versus really consistently excellent ones do, and she has that.
She looked awesome, you see, you know, her her LFA
run was also pretty impressive. This was an overmatched opponent.

(01:00:46):
I think we can all agree there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
She was not up to par you game, She's wacky
in game. You gotta give Russian Ronda that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Okay, she had she pushed her to a second round,
so she had to you know, start the attack over again.
But it obviously went from bad to worse, very very
you know what ground and pound and also what I'm
gonna say is you just don't see many people who
have that level of mount in mma anymore, where they
can just float position to position to position to position
inside of mount and then still terrify you with ground

(01:01:14):
and pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
So really nice to see what she turned in. Great performance.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, and as long as Luke would tell us, Russian
and Ronda had never been finished before, so a sort
of dominant start. Now, look Luke Forbia, the striking didn't
look world class, but she's muscular, confident, obviously experienced at
a very high level. And when we consider the women's

(01:01:38):
bandam weeight division, which we rarely consider, we've got a
superfight coming up with Kayla and Amanda. You've still got
former champions in Rocky Pennington and Juliana Pana who are lingering.
But you could use a player in this division. When
was the last time you got excited, you know, outside
of the free agent pickup of Kayla Harrison that there
was a rising women's bandon weight who could potentially make noise.

(01:01:59):
Question obviously is going to be how much noise? So
how do you how do you come off of this
one performance? Like will they be will they be matching
her quickly? Or is this still going to take time?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
In your eyes, she's thirty three, thirty four, They're gonna
move this one quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I think I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
The only thing for me remains the question is BC
is how much her takedown translates at the higher.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
End of this division.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
When the when the opponents have better balance, better takedown offense,
better take down defensive habits, you know harder to get
hold of, because you know there's some stuff where you know,
you're looking at what she did here and leaning too
far this way and taking some risks that I don't
know if other opponents might punish or not. But if
she could solve that problem, BC, then I think you
know again, Mackenzie Dern, she's only now getting good at

(01:02:46):
ground and pound, and obviously she has great submissions, but
she had no takedowns and she had no ground and pound.
Remember she used to balance on her head from the
back and then punch this way like this, totally mechanically
awful way of trying to attack.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Look what yourself from Mosquito. She's building in damage through
positional advancement all the way right now. That's that's a
much healthier sign.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, that I was. I was fairly impressed overall. And
not only did she dispatch a red rocket Russian rondo
with these, she then turned her her her exploits toward
the American version. Must listening to this sound.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
Eleven years ago you told me you you consider doing
the transition from jiu jitsu to mma to fight round
the rousing, And now eleven years later you're fighting Russian
Ronda at uf Cereal and now there are talks of
maybe around the Rousing coming back to m A. Is
that maybe a long time ago? Uh? And now it
could come to us to our reality.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
What a crazy coincidence. I' mean happy reminder. Well, I
don't know who told she's the Russian rounda Rouse, but
well if she says so, it's what she believes. But
I prove it that my take down to some point.
And and I mean, I'm a very big fan of
Ron the true Ronda Rousing. She made history in the MMA,

(01:04:06):
and she opened a lot of doors for all the
womans that are coming out as well as me. So
I respect a lot all her history and everything she
did to the MMA. Woman's be what it is today.
So I really hope she comes back. Everybody enjoy her
fighting a lot, and I think that would be amazing.
They arm Babatto even knowing that I didn't got my

(01:04:28):
arm biys yet, But who knows, maybe fighting her it's
gonna come. I don't know, but I really respect her.
I'm a big fan of everything she did, and I'm
just happy if she's coming back. It's going to be
amazing for the MMA. World then, especially for the woman's Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
For the record, Ronda has not announced that she's coming back,
but these training videos do seem to create some talk.
The training videos, the shape she's in, the matter of
fact way, she's talking about rediscovering her love. But I
don't think Bea would be on that opponent right away.
But it's interesting to think about Luke Thomas gun to
your head. Will Ronda Rouse you ever fight in the

(01:05:06):
octagon again?

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah? I think she will.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Wow, I did not think I was ever going Sorry,
my laptop is dying and I'm trying to get the
charge going here. I never ever thought I would say
something like that. But I don't think she's coming back
for nothing. This white house car and everything. It's just
all too coincidental. And again, the way her MMA career
ended was given to its heights. It ended in kind
of this like I don't know, pretty ignoble way where

(01:05:31):
she refused to even like I'm not even gonna look
at the MMA media like like where your problem?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Like where are the ones who hurt you?

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Uh So, I don't know. I think coming back from that,
maybe maybe I think she might be will Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
She needs another betch Kohea. Why don't we just give
her Fiona?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
You could do that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Is that the same weight clause?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I don't know, I'm not sure, Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah, I'm just thinking out of my all right, let's
keep it moving down this card, Luke, we did see
some bangers in terms of big time finishes. What do
you make here ultimately? Well, first of all, Vitor Patrino
at heavyweight. Now, dude, that two punch knockout in round
three of Ahubby Thomas Peterson. Dude, that should be a

(01:06:18):
highlight we see again. Man, that was some nasty stuff
right there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Yeah, you got him coming forward, so then he just
kind of like flops like a like a sea lion.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Fantastic finish for a jack dude looking to reamind himself.
Larger picture talk might come at heavyweight here from Mario
Pintu of Portugal, but he's got a UK accent and
he definitely fooled Michael Bisbey in the postfight interview by
saying he doesn't speak English, but he needed less than
two rounds to get Johanada Dnes out of their denise nuts. Luke,

(01:06:52):
what do you think about Pintu? Should we be looking
at him as a riser in a shallow division.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, which was a fun little thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
He's Portuguese and Denise is Brazilian, so they brought the
Portuguese guy over to Brazil. The Brazilians apparently. By the way,
Shasta Gierme Cruz over at MM fighting. He was covering
this event in both Portuguese and English, and I thought
he did an amazing job. Really gave great coverage and
helped people to understand a fight and I better than
they ordinarily would have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So in general he was great.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
But he was talking about this fight BC and all
like the anti colonial things people in the audience were
yelling at him, you know, which I thought was kind
of funny. But dude, he looked pretty good. I mean,
it was weird. He was like, I don't speak English,
and then he was like, friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me
your ears, and I'm like, I don't know, brother, I
think the English is pretty good, but hey, undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
He fought in a I wouldn't. I mean, I would
say this.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
The finishing mechanics on the paint brush the Americana were
real bad, which is why it didn't work, because if
the elbow comes up, there's nothing really torquing it. It
has to come down this way, not like this, but
like open and then like this and then that way.
That's how you get it anyway, so that he needs
a little bit of work. He needs a little bit

(01:08:07):
of work, but heavyweight could use him. Let's say it
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Yeah, we can use anybody with a pulse right there.
Let's talk about the featured prelim at featherweight where all's
well that Michael as Well ends well got a first
round TKO victory over Lucas Almeida, but the MMA detectives
on X all week we're focusing on the obvious broken
hand that Almeida was showing up to the press events with.

(01:08:32):
He never threw that right hand in the bout that
was stopped in the first round, and it felt like
the referee was looking for this guy to go out
like a warrior Luke like potentially to the terms of death.
How does this even get sanctioned?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Here's what I just can't wrap my head around. How
is it People on Twitter will know a guy is
injured based off of making visible observations of their condition,
typically though not always at way in events. So either
the ceremonial or the real one. This will affect betting lines, right,

(01:09:07):
so now money is changing the way it is coming
in one way or the other as a result of
these observations. And then somehow all of that can happen.
But the fight doesn't get called off either by the commission,
who appears to be not aware of any of these things.
I don't know if people who work at athletic commissions
have cell phones BC.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
That maybe they don't even have computers. I really don't know, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I get that you could hide like neurovirus from a
medical professional.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
By no, this is being observed. This was people were
talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Show you your filangies here and get inspected.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
How how did this happen?

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
I don't Because he goes in there, he never throws
that hand that's injured, he tries to throw out of
South Paul, he gets tuned up quickly with right hands
that were coming over the top, and you know, he
gets kind of polished off. And it's like, why this
fight should not have happened, like matter of factly it
should not have happened. And who was responsible for that is?

(01:10:03):
I guess the promoter, I guess the commission. I'm not sure,
how that's really supposed to go down. It's just insane
to me that people in the commission are like, no,
we don't see anything. It's like, dude, it's all over
social media. Yeah, and the betting lines are moving. How
are you not noticing?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I mean, James Kraus saw that. I'm wondering if Long
Island Luke did did you follow the trends on this bet?

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
So Unfortunately I put my bets in on like Thursday,
and I had it now made a bet at plus
one twenty four night plus two fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I also wanted to shout out straweight Julia Pilastri of Brazil,
who man, she gave it to Carolinakovo Keevitch almost to
the point where you're wondering if the thirty nine year
old Carolina should should end it now. She was game
as always, but the look the short punching power of Pilastrey,
who's in great shape, has a ground game. I'm wondering

(01:10:53):
if we got someone here at straweight. I think that's
not her fifth straight win.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
You were, yeah, and also how about this set the
tone right away with that body.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Kick up the middle and you know what I mean?
Right away was like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
This is what it's going to be tonight. You know,
you can figure out how you want to get it.
I got a dead wrong in real time BC. She's
two and two in the UFC, and that she was
coming off a loss.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Oh wow, I take that back. Then the over excitement,
but she did look good in this fight. I should
probably do my homework.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Lastly, lastly, koble Keevich.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Yeah, you know, she took a lot of abuse in
this fight, and she tried to fight back with heart,
but not a ton of ability. She's also got some
questions to be asking about what's next.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I think it should be next. I think it should
be it. But Long Island, Look, you are a master
of the undercards, and they usually happened before your sobriety
gets challenged. What else did you pick up on Saturday?

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Not so much the undercard was on the main card.
But my boy con Offley, the Australian got his first
UFC win. He had the backpack on Kardo o'hamos there
choked him out. I mean I was impressed with him.
Not so impressed with the other Aussie Stewart Nickel. He
was kind of a little bit of a letdown there.
Other than I feel like we covered Jaffelle Felio getting
the Kamora on Clayton Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
That was a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
I was surprised that that worked because he kind of
gave it to him. He didn't have the arm straightened
or sorry, he had the arm straightened, and then he
just kind of put it down and then the guy
just reasserted the Kimora, and I was like, well, you've
also gave it to him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
So the opening bout was interesting. Luan laserradas Simon Oliver.
Olivera missed weight by eight pounds. He had a rehydration cluse.
Have you guys ever seen that in MMA? I don't
think I ever had, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
I think those are starting to be new if you
miss weight like in that kind of way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, yeah, I liked that.

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Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
All right, let's slide it over to the topic number four.
In six months after a unified boxing welterweight titles with
a one sided demolition of unbeaten Imontes Staniosis, Philadelphia's own
Juran boot Tennis was at home on Saturday on his own,
also making his debut at one hundred and fifty four pounds. Now,
it wasn't without controversy from the standpoint of the matchmaking.

(01:16:02):
His opponent, we Sma Lima came in with a hard
punching reputation as a career junior middleweight, but not the
experience gap in terms of the advantages that Jeron Ennis had,
and nothing close to the athleticism. In the end, it
was a destructive two knockdown first round t KO win
for Boots Ennis, who offensively looked like a nightmare, switching stances,

(01:16:26):
landing a lead uppercut to hurt Lima before a beautiful
two punch combo put him away. Lima tried to last,
but this was ultimately a statement performance. Now, the question
is how big of a statement, because you did have
longtime boxingscribes like Dan Rayfield just rightfully railing against this
fight all week, which could take away from the idea

(01:16:47):
that this was bit some big announcement at one fifty four. However,
you look at the opponents and the matchmaking here, though
it was a big announcement because the fight to make,
even though neither have a world title at one fifty
four is Jeron Boots MS against unbeaten Virgil Ortiz Junior
or Cheese is gonna have to get through the always
tough ericson Lubin in November. But this is shaping up

(01:17:09):
to be a fight that boxing fans are going to
need to see. First, let's show the finish here on
a camera taken from the crowd of what Boots did
to Lima Luke six thousand people in the Wells Fargo Center,

(01:17:41):
but that was nine or was nine? That sounded like
an infernal once they got cooking in there. How much
are you going to separate the fact that this was
an unnecessary, meaningless marination. But yet our boy Boots, and
we've been watching him a long time. Dude, he looks
like a million bucks from then.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Who gives a shit? This fight was ridiculous. This was
a waste of everybody's time. And the reason why you
know that is like, first of all, this was I
know there were some Jabbronis who were trying to talk
to themselves into like, no, this guy can actually box.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
No, the fuck he can't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
First of all, not certainly, not on any level that
mattered for Saturday. We knew that going in this was
a fight that never needed to happen. He didn't need
to tune up to go to fifty four, not one
like this. We're now thirty five years into his career
and his best winzard Chukazan and Staniosis, which are fine
B level fighters. He doesn't have a single A or
A minus fucking win on his entire career and BC.

(01:18:32):
Here's how you know this is meaningless. This is the
shit he was doing when we were working at showtime
against better guys than this, by the way, are certainly
just as good. We already know he can do this. Okay,
he didn't do it at one fifty four, It doesn't matter.
We knew he could do this kind of thing to
this level of opponent. Moving up a weight class is
not that revelatory. If the test isn't sufficiently difficult, it

(01:18:56):
doesn't have to be the most difficult one in your
first fifty four up, but it had to be better
than this. The fact that he blew him out and
around is not evidence that, oh my god, Thanos just
took over and beat up the Hulk. No, it was
evidence of a fight that was an absolute sham that
did not need to be made. That you learn nothing
in Actually was fucking that they dude the balls on

(01:19:17):
match room to ask for money for that is insane.
If the fans in Philadelphia BC were happy because you
know Jiron Ennis, you know, the lion Ate, the Gazelle, great,
I understand that I don't begrudge them that, And I'm
not saying BC that Juran doesn't have elitability. I was
once a big believer and I'm still willing to be
again dot dot dot once he starts fighting people of

(01:19:40):
enough threat or challenge, which he's still thirty five fights
in not doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah, twenty eight years old. Hearn talked a big game afterwards,
calling him the future pound for pound king and saying
that this is what happens when you get out of
a weight class that you're you know, cutting down so
aggressively that they he estimated that Boots was only seventy
you know, sixty or seventy percent of what he can do.
The problem is, like you mentioned, we had that completely
unnecessary rematch at Walter White against Karen Chukinsen just to

(01:20:10):
just for Boots to hold on to the titles in
a mandatory, which showed the ridiculousness of current boxing. But
so did this fight to really marinate this so unnecessarily,
I'm happy for Boots. He looked great by the way.
Hearn said, they're willing to match him with anybody from
one fifty four to one sixty eight Luke, which is bold.
But here's Eddie Hearn talking about the future for jeronas

(01:20:34):
spread out.

Speaker 9 (01:20:34):
Promotionally, you have to pay the money and you have
to hope that people have ambition to take on the
best and create a legacy and fight other champions and
fight the best in the game. We're in a really
good spot right now where we had the biggest TV
contract in American boxing in the real boxing world, and
for us, we need to work with other promoters to

(01:20:56):
make sure that we can make those fights. But after admit,
we need the fighters to have the ambition to try
and be the best, and I can't. I just hope
they're full of that ambition. I hope they want to
chase legacy, but we do have to pay them a
lot of money, and we realize that with stanionis because
we were under pressure to deliver the Stanionis fight and
he was the best world to wait in the world

(01:21:16):
outside of the Boots. We paid up, we got the fight,
he destroyed him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
We've got to do the same at once with people.

Speaker 10 (01:21:22):
And just one one final up question for you as Boots.
This question a few weeks ago. You know, when we
talk about that has me mention of if he's going
to defend he wants to defend the Puerto Rico. He's
been to Porto rican before. Would you entertain that? Would
you take Boots to Poterricos? But I think he means
more of a homecoming fight.

Speaker 9 (01:21:36):
Sure listen xanders Aias against Boots Puerto Rico weekend, Madison
Square Garden have some of that. All of Philly will
come up to MSG for that. Fighters. Ias is a
great young fighter. I believe Zaias has ambition to test
himself with the best.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
I would say, what's the biggest now? Boots called out
all the champions afterwards at fifty four, which is Xanders Aias,
Sebastian Fundor and bakram Mertizaldi of Unfortunately, Luke, this fight,
even being booked against Lima, is sort of another like boxing,
can't get out of their own way in the second
half of this year, and it sucks. And to see
Fondora pull out of that October twenty fifth pay per

(01:22:13):
view against Keith Thurman with a hand injury only adds
to that suckage. And then we did see Hearn's team,
by the way, say publicly that they reached out to
Keith Thurman and he didn't want anything to do with Boots.
I don't know if that's true, but that's not great,
not great stuff. But if we get look Orchees versus Lubin,
that's a very good fight that we need. If it
leads to Ortees versus Boots, then this is a fight

(01:22:37):
worth setting up, a setting up plans for, and watching
comfortably and enjoying because these are two of the best
in this game, two unbeatens before they even reached the
title level of fifty four. I'm all for it, but
enough of this marination. Come on, people, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
This was ridiculous and I can't believe anyone's saying anything
other than that, Yeah, Jerron's great, he's really great, but
he's got a I mean, this is this We're nearly
forty fights in and you haven't fought one a level guy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Come on, yeah, all right, there's a couple other combat
sports one hitters that we can we can smoke through here, Bill,
how about Luke? Speaking of Big Big John McCarthy, how
about this. He announced that he has stepped down from
the Weighing In podcast with Josh Thompson and that now
that his body is healed, he will be back to refereeing.

(01:23:23):
He already made his return on more of the regional
level last weekend and put out a post on social
media talking about just how good it felt to be
back doing what he loved. It was the sort of
physical setbacks that originally took him out of that job.
This is a welcome development for the officiating world. Nobody's
been a part of more big fights literally going back

(01:23:43):
to UFC two than Big John McCarthy. Luke, do you
think we'll see him on the highest level from PFL
the UFC once he gets back on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
It's not like I've agreed with every call that any
any one officiant has made.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
They win something.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
But it's just very hard for me to look at
what we just had a conversation about the state of refereeing.
It's very difficult for me to believe looking at the
state of things that you can add McCarthy to the
mix and this is not an improvement. Again, that doesn't
mean he's gonna have all great calls. No referee does.
But as a general observation, Yeah, refereeing I think could
certainly use his help.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yeah, I love Big John. It's fair to say he's
the greatest referee of all.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Time, right and certainly I mean, well, there is some
debate about that, but I would say maybe the most
impactful because of the role he played in helping to
shape the rules to begin with, and how many seasons
of MMA he's observed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
It's given.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
For a lot of that. I mean, he was almost
all of that. It wasn't like you were looking for
him to lose his job at any point, That's right, Yeah, Luke.
Let's talk quickly about one championship which we don't talk
about a lot these days, Marcelo Garcia versus Lachlan Giles.
That's been booked for December fifth of this year in Bangkok.
The act will be part of One Fight Night thirty
eight at Lumpeni Stadium and we'll be contested at one

(01:25:05):
hundred and seventy pounds. Why should we care?

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Well, first of all, I think it's Loompinie Stadium. Yeah,
the two the two major stadiums in muy Thai are
Roja Dominan and Loompini, which are the two?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Everybody, Well, you didn't know that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
I mean, you know, I haven't tried to know that. No,
I haven't. I haven't made it a priority.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Well, I don't know much about kickboxing but muay Thai,
but I do know that Raja dominant and Lumpini. Anyway, Dude,
Marcello Garcia, if not the greatest no gie grappler of
all time, certainly number two. H Lachland Giles, I mean,
an absolute master of the half guard and camora and
you know a million other things. He's, you know, certainly
one of the very very best. These are two going

(01:25:46):
to be close to the same weight class. They're both retired,
but they're both still you know, viable as fun entities.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
That one. That's that's do Tom de blasts. That's good matchmaking.
It's great matchmaking.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
We'll be looking for that December fifth in Bangkok. Also
from this UFC Heal broadcast, Josh Van's teammate Michael as well.
During the post fight interview, seem to matter of fact,
Lee leak the Alexandre Pantosa Josh Van title fight taking
place on the December sixth final UFC pay per view
card of twenty twenty five in Las Vegas. Luke, does

(01:26:19):
he get any talking to from the company.

Speaker 9 (01:26:21):
For doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
All speech is protected, including hate speech.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a well if listen to
if you want to post on your Instagram stories about
how much you love the Nazis, they'll let that rock.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
That dude is getting a lot of attention.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
What's that guy's name, I'm aj Cunningham. I think is
that right? Long Islandluke? That I get the name right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
I mean, can you believe that that is not somehow
do you know how deranged it is that that's not disqualifying?

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Did he qualify with pre or post math when he
made those comments?

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know if this
was pre meth or not. It's really an important qualifier.
But dude, the state of the sport, I mean, oh
my god. Anyway, last thing on this is yeah, so
like that's the thing that we're kind of expecting for
UFC three twenty three is that you're expecting Pantoja to
be in there, and that's some either main or how
would people feel that's a main right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
They'd be better, right, they'd be better.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
They would be they'd feel like they're mailing it in
for the tail end of the UFC deal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
I don't know if they're gonna I'm not saying that
they will. I'm saying at least have that in mind
as a possibility.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Maybe they're saving the good ones for Paramount Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I think all they're definitely doing that. They're definitely doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
But you know, if some of these guys are saying no,
and if some of these guys are injured, it complicates
the timeline there too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
You know they need a lot of volunteers.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Yeah, certainly does. Former heavyweight champion of boxing Deontay Wilder
says he's coming back in January and has a quote
about it, quote, I've signed the contract already. I can't
give no details at this point, but it's definitely live.
It's gonna happen. I got a big year next year.
I'm looking forward to it. All I can say is
two time, let's go Any guesses on who it will be,

(01:27:55):
or who it should be, or who you want it
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I want it to be. Dude. He already has the statue,
he already kissed it, He already made a bazillion dollars
to fight Dominique Brezil, Like, just go enjoy life? Why
are you doing this? I don't Is he still with
Malik uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Scott's I don't Scott think? Actually I don't know. I
don't think Malik Scott was with him when he had
that comeback fight in June. But I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Anyway, Here's what I want. I want for him retirement
and this bums me out. I'm just hoping he lets
me down easy. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
I mean it could be Francis and Ghano. Would you
hate that?

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
U fire up the chainsaw? I guess let's fucking do it?
I mean, I guess I am. I mean I'm a degenerate.
I guess I am. You know I shouldn't be, but
I guess I am.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Uh even sadder news to close here. Luke is a
former two division UFC champion BJ Penn, continuing his unfortunate
mental downfall here This comes from Perry Punch News developing.
A judge has ordered Bjpenn to undergo a mental health
exam to determine if he is mentally fit and penally
responsible for several criminal charges against him, including alleged abuse

(01:29:17):
of a family member, violating a temporary restraining order, and
refusing to comply with a police officer. If found not
fit to proceed, Ben Penn could be released to the
custody of Hawaii and placed in a treatment facility. He
is due back in court on January ninth, and those
updates come from Hawaii News. Now, Luke, everything about this

(01:29:37):
is super sad. It does not appear I'm no expert
like he is mentally sound in that this has been
a big part of the downfall for him as a
civilian in recent years, and all the posts on social
media and all the accusations of his family members being
killed and replaced with impostors. I don't know where you
go from here. I really don't do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
Everyone. I'm not saying they should look at this news
and be like, oh, this is great news, I feel
so great about it. That's not what the kind of
that's not what this news does. But let me tell
you something. There's a lot of people with mental illness
who don't have people who care about them pushing for
them to get the kind of services or evaluations that
are necessary to protect them from themselves. And BJ is

(01:30:21):
and it's not great if he ends up in the
custody of you know, various entities, state or otherwise that
have to monitor his mental health. And to your point, BC,
I'm also not an expert in mental health, but I
don't know, like it doesn't take a genius to look
at this and say this is clearly in need of
proper medical evaluation. That so a determination can be made.

(01:30:44):
And I tend to think that there will be one
that's made that that requires some level of oversight. Let's say,
and DC, I'm gonna say it again, there are so
many people who don't have someone advocate for them, who's
who don't have brothers, sisters, parents with money, legal resources,
the ability to lean on the state to force these

(01:31:04):
kinds of issues. They don't have these kinds of things,
and they fall through the cracks. At least BJ has
this going for him at this stage of what is
obviously an incredibly tragic and terrible scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
I'm hoping that this is a wake up call to matchmakers,
and they're in the UFC promotion too, because you know,
when BJ was on that eight fight losing skid that
was only equaled by Tony Ferguson's a few years later,
no one thought he was going to create some type
of comeback, and even if he got a win, it
would only lead to a larger step up and potentially
more damage. I really feel like even with great legends,

(01:31:38):
once we hit a certain point where it's over, just
end it, just end the career. And I don't know
what that means for them financially afterwards, but you know
how much of this was deeper activated by being in
fights he shouldn't have been and taking finished losses. You know,
I have the same fear for Tony Ferguson's boxing career,
even though he just scored sort of a triumphant victory

(01:31:59):
right there. Only so much the human you know, mind
and body can take care. Same thing with the wild.
They're to be fair, Luke, you know it's not as
we're not as advanced here in the dangerous realm, but
we've seen a lot of bad endings in combat sports.
I wish there was another way that these great athletes
could make money. I wish those same UFC sweetheart deals
that like Matt Hughes used to get in Forest Griffin

(01:32:21):
and Stepan Bonder that went away with the with the
sale in twenty sixteen. I wish we could bring those
back in a lot of ways. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Yeah, I mean the UFC did have a deal.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
I don't know what the state of it is where
they had a Bjpenn branded UFC gym in Hawaii. There
might even been like a few of them that were
Bjpenn branded. Obviously, that would make a bunch of sense
to partner with a local legend in that way. Sure,
he comes from wealth, BJ, This is what I mean.
BJ's family comes from wealth, So, like you know, it's
not in his case a question of does are there

(01:32:51):
enough resources to help that? The question is can they
be applied effectively in a scenario where a person is
having a mental episode or it's potentially even now too
far gone. These are separate questions, but to your point,
more broadly, I think everyone should take a look in
the mirror, Like, dude, there is an expiration date on
this shit. And if you're Vicente Luke, I'm not telling

(01:33:11):
you like, if you keep competing, oh, you're gonna end
up just like this or just like that. We don't
know that, but we know that there are enough risk
factors where you don't even want to get close to
that conversation. And if you're and bja one at the
very highest level, you know what I mean, you can
at least say, what did he achieve a lot?

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
He achieved a lot?

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
I mean, if you're not doing that kind of a thing,
why are you sacrificing your health?

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
So willingly? Don't do that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Yeah, one day you're going to be walking down at
Dark Alley and Mark Sanchez is going to be there.
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This one's called DMS from Donks. It's disturbing to say

(01:35:37):
the least, to hear that noise. Here's Kevin Underscore Mitchell
Underscore seventy nine. Why doesn't the UFC invest in a
physical hall of fame that stands alone to the public.
Currently it resides on the staircase of the first and
second floors of the Vegas Performance Institute. I think the
fans deserve a museum at this point to honor the sport,

(01:35:59):
since it's now a global entity and has been for
some time. Luke, I think you can say the same
thing about the WWE Hall of Fame. And even though
the International Boxing Hall of Fame, which you can visit
right off the highway in Cannestota, New York, is not
overly impressive. It's a very small building. It's got very
cool stuff in it, but you'll get through that cool

(01:36:20):
stuff in about twenty five minutes. I feel like with
the growing empire of the Performance Institute, the UFC headquarters,
the expanded Apex, if they just put a little thing
together that they can keep open during daytime hours and
charge fight fans five bucks to come in and see history,
I think that's a win win, right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
I believe that this is a no brainer. You could
even put it next to the Apex and have its
own little thing where. For example, I went on a
family vacation BC We went to Lisbon, Portugal, and we
stayed right next to the Benfica stadium and we just,
for like five year old we took a tour of
the stadium and all the rich history of that club
and you know, where everything, who the best players were,

(01:37:01):
the big years, and let they let you sit in
like the press area and it's just so much fun.
And I'm not you know, I don't know anything about
Benfica all that much. I just wanted to see some
European football history, That's all it was. And it was
five year oh and it was great. It was one
of the it was a great day. They can't have
a physical hall where yeah, I mean, you know, how
big could it be? It's okay, but there's some debate
about that. But they've got the money, they've got the land.

(01:37:25):
They just have to have the willingness and a museum
curator type of level talent to set it all up.
But I think that would make a lot of sense,
to be honest with.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
You, Yeah, I really do. Let's continue it on. Here's
from it's not cage fighting. But the only thing is,
though it is cage fighting. Which location would you like
the UFC to go back to which they haven't visited
for a while. We're talking five years or more, so, Luke,
are you itching for UFC Monkton to return? No, all right,

(01:37:54):
I'm sure the Piquets would have been there though.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Right probably?

Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm interested. I mean, I don't I'm not
sure what. I'm not sure what I mean? I mean, dude,
you know what I want them to do. I want
them to go to Hawaii. That's where I do too. Yeah,
that's that's kind of where my head is at these days.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
What about d C, what is their history there outside
of that Virginia? I mean, that's true, right there? Would
you like to see an annual d C stop or
is it the fact that you're embarrassed about how rude
the service providers are in terms of like Starbucks cashiers
in your city.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
I mean, you know, I'm sorry that your armpit fart jokes.
Uh didn't bring the house down when you were ordering
your double caramel macchiato.

Speaker 8 (01:38:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
No, I don't need to see that. I think you
know they're in New York City once a year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
That's important.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
You know, they don't need to come to d C
in that kind of way. Go to places that need you.
That's that's what MMA should be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Yeah, I'm not itchin for them to come to Connecticut.
It's not really a great spot for a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I mean, Connecticut is a shithole. I mean, let's just
be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
I mean I wouldn't go that far. I'd like more Boston,
p l E. S Luke, all rights, there's a certain
energy there right remember McGregor Siver. Remember are some like
big fights we've seen there. I'd like to see a
great New England city like Boston get more. What about
you Long Islandluke, I'm sure you're gonna say, like that
theater in Huntington where Chris al Jerry is.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Yeah, paramount.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Yeah, yeah, I will say like I mean Long Island baby.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
They were at Ubs Arena like three years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
But wasn't that when Gaslom got widemand No.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
That was at Nasau Coliseum in twenty seventeen. I was
there for that, okay. Now the last one was Brian
Ortega yah year and it ended in a no contest.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
It was there.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Fuck, what came to mind? Melbourne, Australia. I think the
last time they were there is the poster behind me
is he Whittaker won? So that was twenty nineteen. I mean,
you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Back to mil paying too much, that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
They are and they go to Sydney occasionally, but never Melbourne.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
So I'd like you and your dad to go to
a live fight down under. I mean, I'm down with
Dennis Scrototov.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
We're down, dude, We'll do it all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
The next one comes from Michael is Michael, Oh, Mike,
Michael Simon XO. Thank you for the kisses and hugs there. Michael,
what do you guys think about one of my current fighters,
Sean Brady, essentially wasting his prime. He's brilliant yet he's
fought once a year since twenty two and is on
pace to fight only once this year. I know people

(01:40:14):
are ducking him, but sometimes you have to fight down
in the rankings to stay relevant. Well, the problem is
he's so damn close to either a title fight or
a number one contender fight that you don't want to
waste that, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
I mean it's a tough situation, because, yeah, I agree,
fighting once a year if you're unless you're Gary Russell
Junior is very much inadvisable. But at the same time,
when you're this is the problem, then you get close
enough and you're like, I can't fuck this up, and
so you end up making like very careful decisions and
then that just the whole thing gets jacked up.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I hope
Sean Brady gets back out there. I hope we get
the top of this division figured out from me and
Gary to all these guys. Number four comes from Skuyler
Underscore Lerwell, Skuyler Lurewell, BC, you're looking good as the
prop quiz champ. Thank you. However, you have some serious
contenders lined up, including Ben the Bain Davis and a

(01:41:10):
Bron Aaron Bronsteader, how do you like your chances to
retain your title? So I've yet to see the Ben
the Bain episode against Oscar Willis and their rematch of
their BKFC fight, but I did hear that Ben created
a short lived record for most points. I will say
this though, when I watched Abron put it on Chuck

(01:41:30):
Mindenhall and extend that record, I was a little nervous.
I mean, lte We've seen great stories of people falling
into a title Bisping Michael Bisping at UFC one ninety nine,
but then we see what we saw gsp come in
there and humble that I don't want to get gsp'd
by Abron here. So I'm wondering if long out look,

(01:41:51):
can I invoke any champ status shit to like, you know,
pick and shoes or how is this gonna work?

Speaker 6 (01:41:59):
I think I'm going to do another bracket, so I
may have been the Bane and a Bron go head
to head, and then obviously there's going to be two
other matchups on the other side of the bracket, and
then maybe the winner of the.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Bracket faces you.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
It's it's still working in my head, BC, But uh,
you do have I mean, if you want to face
someone specifically, we can make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
No, I want I want to play it fair. But
you know, Abron had like no emotion. He was like
a killer in that episode.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
He knew everything. He also no hesitation. People, bitch, I
need a shot clock all the time. Not with a
bron Man. He knew everything.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
This is you know, for all the talk about him
being a varsity athlete, this is his wheelhouse. This is
where he is a stud of studs until I accidentally
beat him. All right, because if you think I'm going
out like that, right, Luke Thomas, what do you think
I accidentally beat three very very intelligent gentlemen in this series.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Yeah, but it's not an intelligence test. It's a trivia
knowledge test. You can just prep for that, all right,
all right, seriously, you can just prep for something like that,
you know, if it was actually an AQ test, and
you can't really prep for when you prep a little bit,
but for for a but for a rote memorization test,
that's that's just practice.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
You know what I'm going to bring out basketball VC,
That's what I'm gonna do, right, Yeah, all right, I'm
gonna start, you know, making prank calls to Bronstetter's house
to night before to get in his head. How about that?

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Pull the fire alarm at the hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
That's what soccer there, all right? No, I love Abron,
but shout out to him. I'm coming for you if
you end up there, I'm coming for you, a Bron,
All right, thank you very much. Our final one comes
from Triple A ten seventeen. So if there was a
y'all must have forgot mount rushmore of fighters who just
continue to never go away when we write them off.
Who is on it? This man likes OLIVERA. Magni Arlovski

(01:43:43):
and he needs help with the fourth I mean Katur.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Katur was written off multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Including on this show for that twelve o'clock guest appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yeah, I mean he might be here today. We never know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
The ghost of Randy Cooter just floats in the ether.
You never know when he's going to show up. But
in all seriousness, BC, dude, I remember I this is
you know again, I'm an old piece of shit. But
like I distinctly recall the media cycle before he returned
out of it because he got sent to oblivion. Bye Bye, bye,
Chuck for the second time, he hangs it up. He's

(01:44:18):
I'm fucking done. And then Tim Sylvia is on this
role where you know, Tim Sylvia looks like a newborn giraffe,
but he's six nine. He's a fucking tough guy to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Katoria. Is you know, training with Eric Peley. What's his face?
No Pele.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
No Eric play Yeah, the big heavyweight. He's training with
a bunch of these dudes over in his gym, and
you're like, dude, he is gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Get fucking wiped out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
And then he goes and then the whole media cycle
was about all this ship and then he goes in
there and just bodies Tim Sylvia. I'm telling you that
is the king of comebacks after being written off.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
That is very true right there. He mentioned some good names.
You gotta you gotta say, Jim Miller. I mean, have
we ever written off Jim Miller?

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Or is he just is it just he's here because
he just k Yeah, I don't think we wrote him
off per se, but he's just kind of lingered with relevancy. Orlovski,
you know, I definitely or Lovsky was written off, Yes,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Any along that journey, no doubt about that. All right,
good stuff there. Those are dms from Donks and a
reminder you can reach the program by emailing Morning Coombat
at gmail dot com for Friday's dead wrongs and fan
subs and to probably possibly show Mikey your piece. But uh,
I did want to say publicly, you know, longtime friend

(01:45:27):
of the program, backbone of the program, former producer of
the program, the great Mikey Morms, he just got engaged
to his lovely fiance Donna while in Italy. So much
love from the MK community to one of the great ones.
There a a cannabis officionado to say the very least.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Yeah, he's probably high right now, I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
So I hope he's eating spaghetti right now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Somebody, by the way, I have a bit of an
update on that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
On Mikey's spaghetti, and take care well on weed.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
So like you have to have a car, you have
to have like a a medical card in DC, and
mine expired and I was like, oh, I have to
go back to like you know, so.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
I go into the goddamn DMV. I don't want to
do this again, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
But then they legalized it in Maryland, and all you
need is just a government issued ID. So I was like, well,
if I don't mind, let's get behind the wheel of
the car.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Here, let's drive. Dude.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
Maryland is like ribing it's a mile from here. I
just drive right over the line and then Oxton Hill. Uh,
that's a little bit further away, but you know, to
Hyattsville or surround.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Yeah, Hyattsville, hyah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
I was like, this is great. I don't have to
get my license renewed. Thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
All right, our final segment here on the Monday is
the one you've been waiting for, the one where I
scour the globe for the highs and lows, the good,
the bad, the ugly, in the in between, in the
world of combat sports and beyond. Look, somebody posted on
mk Reddit that they're sick of this segment. It should
be retired and killed your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
I don't agree, but I do think you need a
little bit of a cattle prod in the rear end,
you know, get the paddles out here a little.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Yeah, just go full nine to eleven BC. Why do
you hold back anymore? All right, that's great. This one's
called have you seen this shit all right now, Luke,
I can't show you the footage of her walking to
the prep point Saturday night. This is Russian Rocket read

(01:47:24):
Ronda Arena alex Eva and doing Johnny Walker type twerking.
But I got a few videos here on why Russian
Ronda is my new favorite crazy person in Mma. Here
is her getting ready at the weigh in. I mean, look,
this is great stuff right here, right, No, what do
you make of her tats? Can you rate them?

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Very? Tanya? Evenger vibes a little bit here. I mean
she's spirited.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
You know, she's very spirited. If you go a little
bit deeper on her ig, it gets more spirited. Here's
Russian Ronda dancing in a purple mink coat with some
very subtle smm vibes coming out of these bodybuilders. I
don't know what we're doing here, Luke, but this is interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
Your thoughts, uh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
This is deeply uncomfortable?

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Well, I said very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
The thing that could have made that worse is if
the cake ladies showed up and started eating them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Yeah, Like the wrizzler came out and she took his
head and it was really cake and she started eating it. Yeah,
those were subtle SMM vibes. Here's full on SNM from
Russian Ronda.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Okay, you know, maybe maybe MK read it has a
point here?

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
What the fuck are we? Says? Love me on her chest?

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
It does?

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
It does? Yes, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I'm a big fan. Okay, she's kind of like the
female Slava clause. You gotta see her when she's fighting.
You gotta see it Long Island. Look, you were the
one that got me onto the Red Rocket Russian RNDA train.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Say.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
BC joined my watch along once when she was fighting
and became a huge fan.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
I texted BC.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
During that fight and was like, Yo, Russaurant is fighting
the street.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
How did you not tell me on Friday's MK that
she was back.

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
I we glossed right over it because we were talking
about her opponent be a mosquito, and we just forgot
to mention her.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
But yeah, I didn't know her real name. Unbelievable. All right,
here's your relatable moment of the week, Luke.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
I could neither confirm nor deny the details, although I
work from home, so that's more like lunch break than
it would be.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
All right, Hey, Luke, what are you gonna do? The
first hour, mks off. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
I might, I might the vinyls myself. Here's your father
of the week, Luke. I think we call this man
cowboy Cromarty.

Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
How many children do you have?

Speaker 8 (01:49:55):
Twenty three?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Tw real?

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
I don't know if we saw anything there, did we?

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
We saw a man who has fathered a lot of
children with different women.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Oh okay, my screen was blank, so I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
Oh yes, we saw a gentleman who bragged about having
twenty two kids with or twenty three kids with twenty
two baby mothers are a very Yeah, this guy he
doesn't love condom so big, no condom guy so far.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
I would support that this segment needs to come to
an end. But hey, it's regional MMA time, where anything
can happen. Let's check out this European MMA brawl in Germany.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
The fuck and there's a guy with a Palestine flag.
I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
There, gentlemen, we're live on CBS.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Here's Gus Shotson. Boys, these legs happen? What is this over?
What is the what is the Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:50:52):
Jesus, there's still do there's no cage security at all.
They're just jumping right over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
This is like Connor versus a Beab all over again. Wow,
I don't know if that's KSW. I don't know, Luke,
that's Polish one, right, that's na yeah this mayhem? All right, hey,
let's keep it going on the regional scene, the no
nonsense Keith Peterson had a lot of nonsense after this
backflip caught him. Oh he is not he is not happy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, chill out. He teld him
to chill out. Finally, Keith Peterson's you know what, just
give him more warnings.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Though, Yeah, yeah, no points, take good the king of warnings.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Hey, don't you do it? Or what? Or don't you
do it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
All right? Look this from twenty twenty four from one championship.
Watch this losing fighter go off to the ref.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Oh yeah, get in there, there you go, got the neebea.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
One he tapped, Luke, you see that?

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Oh wait, I'll show it again.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Hold on, okay, so after the ref intervenes, okay, just
pay attention to the ref, all right, Now, pay attention
to the opponent who won. Watch this, Look at him,
come around, watch us, watch us.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Yeah, it's like mocking his dead you know, hold at this,
fuck you?

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
I mean, did you see Julia Polastri do the the
whole Tito Ortez burying bit after she stopped Covid cavitch?
That was too far?

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
Look uh yeah, it's like, no, you got to really
like hammer them in the first round to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
Yeah, all right, let's take a deeper look inside the
Green Bay Packers coordinators coaches box. All right, there's a
couple of gentlemen there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yep, oh yeah, oh yeah, brother, a.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Little little rerack you never heard anybody luke.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Yeah, a little a little crotchitch, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Yeah, it's time for Mma fighters in the wild. Here's
a great bousheeto moment, Alex Pereira showing up at a
Brazilian gym that has his name on the wall and
just getting mobbed by children.

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
You know, I'm glad that I finally reached a point
in my life where I find the joy of children amusing. Yes, yes,
it wasn't always a thing in my life, but now
it's a big one, and this is just awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
This is just great, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Just about fantastic. We saw another anime fighter in the wild,
Connor McGregor playing barefoot basketball and it went about as
well as you would think it would look at that form. Yeah, yeah,
he took it back.

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
We don't have to do that stuff with you, by
the way, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
We also have Khalil Rounchrie Junior showing up on the
Jackson podcast talking about how crazy Morob.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Is in the gym.

Speaker 11 (01:53:34):
It's it's really hard to say that he's any different
in the gym than he is in the cage. Really,
I promise you this is a one story. At twelve
o'clock in the afternoon on fight Day, Saturday, October fourth,
Morob sparred five rounds in the cage live on the

(01:53:56):
day of his fight. Because that's just who he is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
That's unreal.

Speaker 12 (01:54:01):
Yes, five full live round five full live rounds at
twelve o'clock, not even half a day before he has
to be in the arena to put on the biggest
fight of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
That's just him.

Speaker 11 (01:54:14):
You cannot make it up. So to be around that,
I mean, it's just it's just another experience.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:54:22):
Most guys will sit in the hotel room or try
to collect their thoughts or do whatever, you know, maybe
even get like a bike ride in on the assault
bike to kind of burn some energy. I've never in
my life seen somebody spar five full rounds the day
that they have to fight and go do another five
full rounds with Cody Sanhey, So like, yeah, it's just

(01:54:44):
he's a different look.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
How do you even explain that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
I don't I don't know how you I don't know.
That's just like I don't even know what that is.
That's just absolutely without price.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
I mean, I mean, I've heard of guys having, you know,
hitting mits for a couple of rounds earlier in the day,
stuff like that, you know, in the sweat out, but
not five five minute rounds that. Like, I just don't
know how it's possible to recover like that. I don't
know it's possible to stay fresh like that. He's beyond
description in that regard. He's unlike any fighter in MMA history.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
To close here, Luke, you wanna Champion was in Brazil
over the weekend, but recently her and her twin Kashia,
celebrated their thirty eighth birthday. What do you think, Luke
doubl date.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Is the cake lady going to eat these two?

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Congratulations to them, Luke, Right, sure, all right? That's great.
It's time for our Big Brown Report. Luke, You've mentioned
a lot lately about how jim wars and sparring wars
can definitely shorten your career. Did you see what Brendan
shab told Joe Rogan recently? What was the worst injury
you ever went into a fight with.

Speaker 12 (01:55:52):
I got knocked out three days before I fought No Give,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
And I got knocked out four days before I fought Rothwell,
Oh my god, Shane car Wins, Oh my god. That's so.
That's rough? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Is that new?

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
I hadn't heard it before, but that's rough, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
That well.

Speaker 4 (01:56:15):
First of all, I can believe that the guys that
grudge back in the day with Shane Carrwin. Someone asked
me in my lap chat last week. I forgot to
say this at the time, but they're like, who's the
scary Who are some of the scariest punchers in mm
A history? And you know, Francis and Ghana would be one, dude,
Fucking Shane carr Win would be another one. A terrifying puncher, yes,

(01:56:38):
and shop having to spar that guy all the time,
I'm not surprised. I would not be surprised at what
he's saying there is absolutely accurate. Those guys were vicious
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
You have to wonder how much that affected his losses
in those fights.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Seriously, right, I mean you know he wasn't And also,
like Nogara was not a bullshit puncher himself.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
You know, he like he could do it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:57):
And yeah, dude, like, how can you win at that
level if you're getting stars that and why are.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
You sparring that hard?

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
I mean that's the problem to Carwin has Like car dude,
Carwin had like comical levels of power.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Well, I mean we just heard Morob was sparring five
rounds on the day of a fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Yeah, fair point.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Speaking of Shah, Luke, drive Fast Eat Ass had another
truck giveaway. Let's see the result here.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Okay, what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Is this a real thing? I need to buy this vehicle?

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yes, yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
I'm gonna. I'm gonna take two key to school in
the I eat Ass vehicle. She'll love that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Luke, are you a fan of white rappers?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Aheso? I suppose all right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
What about this guy his pums? This sweating and these
weak arms are heavy. There's vomited on his sweat already, Mom, Spaghetti,
I'm kind of done with that guy. Luke.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
Yeah, he needs to be bullied more, which is difficult
because he's great at jiu jitsu, but his stick sucks.
Can we just be honest about that. He got his
ass kicked in that debate with Craig Jones, and his stick.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Is fucking lane. He's very good at jujitsu, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
Look, do you remember your number one undisputed most exciting
Christmas gift you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Got as a child, Probably this when I was like
seventh grade. This like the first time I got a
bike that had gears like the you know, on the
left and right side.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
You know, you're like freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Yeah, let's look in on these kids, way, I said,
Dom whosin rookie card.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Thanks Sienna, this is gonna be worth a fortune someday.
I'm glad we're eating up natural resources so kids could
have Saddam Hussein rookie cards to play on stupid shows
like this one.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
All right, hey, time for your poetry of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Let's listen in Roses, I was finna go to bed.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
But not tonight. Sweetheart, give me ahead. Not bad, not bad,
right there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
I've never been a big Lee Corso guy, but he
works in limited circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
He does, he does, Luke, you know you love gender reveals.
Let's rate this one from Dolphins player Jay Leon Phillips
and his and his significant other.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
That's gonna fly over the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Head one blast off.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
Wow, it's like we're gonna murder like five natural ecosystems,
all those trees, all the birds who live there are dead,
so that you could just announce what sex it was,
which is just a thing you can normally do.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
It's a boy, it turns out, Luke. Let's go to
this next one. How do you rate this one? We
got a balloon.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
She has an interesting build, all.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Right, looks like it's a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
Luke, you know what, I rethink everything I've ever said
about gender reveals, and I also need this person's phone number,
yes to further pursue this line of inquiry.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Well, Luke, like regional MMA, anything can happen on local
TV news. Let's go to South America. Here a nice
little street report.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Oh it's just a man's ass.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Full moon tonight. There you go. All right, let's go
over to Jana's party. I don't know what this means.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
From the street. Janna's party is way more interesting. Oh
oh anal, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
You're invited, Luke.

Speaker 5 (02:00:29):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
All right, Luke, this eighth grade football PA announcer would
lose his job for this. Tell me if it's justified.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Let's give my hand job. I'm so sorry. Let's give
my hand folks. Great job, Well done, ladies. He works
at that orchid place that Robert Kraft went where we're at.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
Look, you think you've had a bad day. Let's see
this lady. This day can't get any worse. My car
is getting told.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Why can't I support her?

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Well, Luke, this trend of that Selene started with eating
cakes is getting very much out of control. Let's check
in on the weird cake lady. Oh god, what time
is it, Luke? It's cake time?

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
Okay, yeah, yeah, here we go, just eating off the wall, fucking.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
We're gonna eat yep, yep, sure enough, sure enough?

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
Oh god, damn, I mean, whoa dude? PlayStation? All right, cake.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
Lady, we get it. You make cake look like unusual.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Oh, here we go, eat the fortnite Luke, we could
be hanging out with her.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
Look at this, you know what, That Fortnite cake looks
pretty good. Actually, I'm in it, looke.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
This might have set the record for the most amount
of people DM ing me, so I finally had to
play it. Here's more cake love. Okay, okay, that is uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
I've seen this.

Speaker 1 (02:02:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh. That's something. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Our final he picks it up and eats a piece.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
Yes, yeah, our final weird cake moment. I don't know
how to describe it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
I'm the songest motherfucker in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Bitch, all right, maybe it is time for this show
to come in, this segment to come into it. What
we're ending on is like, no, no, I got one
more for you, Luke. You know when I was a kid,
they said don't play with matches. They didn't say anything
about fireworks though.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Hmm stop movie, hold it up.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
Holding up, hold up? Yeah, what would happen if if

(02:03:11):
you gave two kya battle rocket?

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
No? No, no, no, I have her on. She wouldn't
do that. She wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
That's the ship of the week. I don't know if
it comes back next week. We'll have to wait.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
It needs to come back.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
I mean this was Charles Lavera getting knocked out by
I need you to give me the gam Rock performance.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Yeah, you're right, I need I need some elder abuse.
I need a few different things there. Okay, here we go.
That would be most of the show until I just
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(02:03:50):
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Thank you Morningcombat dot Shop. You can like the show,
you can follow us, you can do different things with us.

(02:04:11):
There's our YouTube channels. Thank you. Look anything coming up
fresh and new on your channel. I saw you had
a nice breakdown on OLIVERA.

Speaker 4 (02:04:20):
Uh yeah, that's it. I got I mean, I got
a bunch of stuff to do after the show today.
Before TOOKI gets back from the Petting Zoo, petting Farm,
whatever the fuck is. So I will try to get
up a full breakdown on some of the Amalplata series
that Olivera went after.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
So we'll be on the lookout.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Good stuff right there. Let's say goodbye to our third
member of the team, Long Island, Luke. Will the main
card Minute be back up and running this week?

Speaker 6 (02:04:43):
Yeah, I'll have a bet breakdown out tomorrow, New pop
quiz on Friday, Watch Along Saturday.

Speaker 5 (02:04:48):
You guys are on the trail, Come on, well we.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
Do we make content in this in these parts? All right, Luke,
any message of wisdom that you want to share with
the viewers. Sawool he's on vacation right now. If you've
been following him on Instagram on the it looks like
he's on the island somewhere.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
Life is about the ability to have consistent, simple joys.
May you ever find them?

Speaker 5 (02:05:08):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Yes? And if you're home alone, as Luke Thomas often says,
you know, yes, it's easy to find one.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
Yes, you know listen porn Hub. Let's be real okay,
all right?

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
Uh for both Lukes, it's your boy BC. Thank you
for watching. Take care of Yourselves. Die your hair if
it's getting gross, we love you, we'll see you on Friday.
There's some fights this weekend or something like that. Peace
and we out of here. Thank you,

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