UFC Rio: Oliveira vs Gamrot Preview | McGregor Suspended 18 Months | DWCS FOTY??? - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really look at us now, tip.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jesus oh.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Us will be well, it's time to beg.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh yeah, directly into your face hole. Get fired up?
Rarely there when you call it, almost never on time.
It's morning Combat, Friday, October tenth, two thousand and twenty five.
Let's get ready. Let's get fired up for UFC. HEO
Brian Campbell in the chair here from the Hartford, Connecticut
suburbs next to me is the most honest man in

(00:59):
all of and maybe the only one. Hey, it's Luke Thomas.
How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's a pretty low bar, but it may or may
not qualify. What's up, dude, how are you doing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, I don't know. It's Friday. Most of our viewers
are not employed. That's that's definitely for sure, so they
ain't got shit to do. So you know, we'll raise
a gras, we'll raise a glass of the the og,
the ag one, and then then we'll do this show. Yeah,
I mean that's where we're at. You know, combat is
in a little bit of a lull. I mean, boxing's dead.
What the hell's going on with that?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't underto. Here's what I don't understand, Like, what
has happened, Okay, twenty twenty three in an insane year.
Twenty twenty four a very good year, not as good
as twenty twenty three, but by no means a bad year.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
By the way, twenty one and twenty two coming out
of the pandemic, we're also very very.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Right right right, So there's this like long kind of
streak where like, even at a bare minimum BC, if
you're not getting like Primo fights. It was busy enough
with like the Subpremo but also kind of cool stuff
that just kind of had a steady clip. And now
I just feel like who sick is fighting, Jake Paul
is fighting, or nothing is happening. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Maybe it's the calm before the storm of what next
year looks like with the launch of zoofa Turkey taking.
Oh I don't know, I really don't know. I don't
know what to expect anymore. But uh yeah, there that's
where we're at.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hey, what's the next what's the next fight? You're calling?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Next Saturday, I'll be on the call with the Great
Chris al Jerry uh, Andre Berno, Teo, Fimo Lopez and
Ach to call Danny Garcia's pay per view retirement fight
at the Barclays, and then the week whoa, whoa, Hey,
thank you very much. And then the week after that,
I'll be in Vegas for the PBC fundorra Thurman pay

(02:42):
per view. I'll be on that broadcast.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
As Keith about to take a beat, and we'll see.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What happens there. You know, you do never know, but
thank you American Boxing. I'll still cash your checks. Appreciate
that very much.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
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(04:19):
thank you very much. Lt. Do you have anything to
report about your life? You're a liberty your pursuit of
happiness if you will.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Got children's parties this weekend. They gotta take two extra two.
Weather is phenomenal. It finally turned a little like you know,
you gotta put the heat on at night otherwise it
gets a little chilly in the house.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Shirts is in his hair, Luke, let's go a fall.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Fall is I don't give a shit what anybody says.
Fall is the King. I mean, maybe mayble people agree
with that, but it's to me, it's the King of seasons.
It's the King like there's nothing better than fall.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'll back you on that. It's the Chasey
Lane of the nineties. If you know where going our
Thank you very much. Yeah, I'd like you all to
say hi to the third member of our team and
aspiring podcast host in his own right, but for us,
he's a director, producer and bong enthusiast. And you already
know about his dad, right, Yeah, it's Luke Mocita of

(05:15):
Australian father fame.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
How are you of Australian father fame?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
There you go? What's up? Guys?

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Got a new prop quiz dropping after this episode Chuck
mindenhol versus Aaron Bronstead.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Of the program. Okay, so what's the new structure? Because
I'm the defending Season one champion, do I get to
defend this title or what?

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, we're trying to just figure out who's the next
title challenger, and I will just say Ben the Bain
had a new high score last week, new high score
this week, So a newer challenger for you.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
BC. Do you think I can accidentally beat Ben the Ban?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think you could?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, all right, all right, all right, thank you very much,
Long onland. Look, we got a fun show for you today.
Shout out to Reggie Jackson. It just flew by. H
we are looking. I gotta let him out of the
second we are. We're gonna preview UFC. HEO. We are
going to look back at a Fight of the Year
contender from the Tuesday Night Dana White Contender series. Mix
around in the box a little bit, and then close

(06:10):
of course with your dead wrongs and your fan submissions
on this Friday, but without further ado, let's bang two
week it's topic.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Can you give me sixty seconds so I can address
Tukester and potentially throw her out the window because it's
a get well.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Let's keep her going, all right, she just had a
good run.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Give me, give me, give me sixty seconds.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, no problem, all right, they put the camera on me.
Thank you very much. H Look at this, Look at
this right here, seriously, folks, great to have you here.
I know I haven't bcxed you in your face hole
in a while. I've been a busy man, but hope
all these listeners out there are doing well. Long ow'
look you live streaming shit this weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Or what.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Yeah, I'll be doing a full card watch along for
he O.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Baby, let's go.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
All right, you have c Heo in the house.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's really only three good
fights on the car least, you know, three fights on
paper that look good.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
But it should be a fun time, you.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Know, say what you will about Chucky Olives. This new nickname,
the Predator, way better than the Leanda.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Right a little sus Also, yeah, like Ilia, dude, you
can't change your own nicknack.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Come on, d Bronx.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's one of the most classic nicknames there is. Yeah,
I know, I know what is what is the purpose
behind this? Just just to resurrect himself similar to the
gray hair dye.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I have no idea, but uh LT has been all.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, we got Luke Thomas here. Uh can we get
an update on Tuki's probability of rushing in the show
Reggie Jackson style.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Jesus, it's like, literally, okay, when I close the door,
do you have everything you need? Yes, she's home from
school today because there's there's like I don't know what
it is, teacher appreciation, but like their teachers development. Yeah,
all in the back, like so they're they're off like
today and Monday as well. So that's amazing. And uh
so we did a bunch of school homework before. I'm

(07:58):
trying to get her all set up for it, and
I give her all this checklists, like here's everything you need.
Once this door closes, cool, cool, daddy, can you open
this for me? And it was a thing of yogurt.
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, but she's welcome on this program. Looke, just let
us open the door, let it happen. All right, there
we go, All right, here we go. Hey, it's time
for topic number one to get you fired up for
the weekend. And our first topic is this weekend's offering
from the UFC. It goes down Saturday and the first
return here to Brazil. It feels like in a while,
maybe I'm wrong on here. Definitely the first time Charles

(08:33):
Olivera is gonna fight in front of a live Brazilian
crowd since twenty nineteen and the main event of UFC
Fight Night Rio. Originally, Olivera was going to face Raphael Fhaziva.
Knee injury pulled him out, but we have a rising
hungry Mateush Gamra in his place. In this UFC he
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(08:53):
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slow you down, Souke. While you were away, we were
talking about a new nickname for Charles Olivera, the Predator,
and the soon to be thirty six year old puts
his seventeen to oh lifetime record inside his native country
of Brazil on the line against a Mateushcameron, who has

(09:17):
won four of five and is ranked eighth compared to
the number four Olivera. What is the biggest challenge stylistically
that Olivera will face against Caamra. Considering here Olivera is
just four months removed from being knocked out for the
first and only time in his forty seven fight career.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean this one is interesting, right because if this
fight was before the Ilia fight, meaning he hadn't lost,
and he hadn't lost via Ko, I don't think there's
any world where anyone would even consider Gamra having much
of a chance short of just stalling him out right,

(10:00):
you could take him down. You could follow the Armin
Saryuki in game plan and kind of work from there. Now,
there's a couple problems with that is that now, on
the one hand, I still think that one thing you're
looking at here if you're Gamrot, is again I'm not
saying he's intentionally looking to stall, but he might be
looking to get to positions that, without further development, lead

(10:22):
to stalling. Right, these are stalemate ready positions. That's the
thing I think you have to keep in mind no
matter what. But the interesting part is b see on
the feet. I think Gamroth's stand up has gotten better.
I don't think it's as good as Olivera's. But between
that and potential susceptibility on the ground to ground and pound,
which Gamrot also doesn't have, like overwhelming ground and pound, Like,

(10:45):
the circumstances are where in a normal scenario you'd look
at this and be like, okay, there are ways Gamrock
could win, but this is Olivera's fight to lose. And
now you look at it and you say, okay, well,
I could still see the contours of that. But the
major questions lingering over over Olivera punch resistance on the ground,
punch resistance standing change it to such a degree where

(11:07):
now it becomes like, well, I don't know, is this
a coin flip. It kind of feels like it might.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Be well, drafts why or sorry Gods wise from our
friends at DraftKings. It has been a virtual coin flip
all week. But as we stand right now, it literally
is minus won ten Olivera minus won ten Gamros exactly.
And look, if it was prime for prime, if this
was three years ago when Olivera was riding an eleven

(11:33):
fight win streak, he the champion, had a name that
was Doe Bronx, and he was, you know, on the
verge of creating chaos and finishing every single person that
stands across from him, we would have a different prediction.
But you nail that it's the knockout four months ago.
He'll be thirty six in about seven or eight days. Now,
You've got a Gamrot who is like aggressively streaking. And

(11:55):
what I mean by that, Luke is we're not gonna
play the video because I think UFC what copyright it.
But in one of their pre fight sort of documentary
things for this specific fight, you know, it shows Gamra
literally living at American Top Team in South Florida in
a dorm room above the fighting area, you know, living
and breathing this at age thirty four. He already knows

(12:18):
what I'm about to say, that his time is now
to truly make a run. He's one four or five.
The only loss was by split decision to Dan Hooker,
and this is suddenly falling into his lap, a huge
opportunity that he went out of his way to publicly
campaign for. He didn't have to get ready. He is ready,
and I think that's a very dangerous equation for Charles Olivera,

(12:41):
which is why the odds are exactly where they're at
right now. This will be though, Charles Olivera back at home,
first time since twenty twenty, first time for a live
crowd since twenty nineteen. I mentioned that seventeen and old
record in Brazil, and check out this reaction when he
came down the elevators to his public workout Damn in

(13:30):
Long Island. Luke reminded me that the last UFC event
in Brazil was UFC three oh one, the pay per view,
back in twenty twenty four. Luke, some people believe we're
walking into I mean even some people are believing that
this could be a retirement bout for Olvera. I don't
believe that we'll get into that topic in a second.
But at the very least this could be a humbling moment,
or that whole crowd could could bowie boye Bowie could

(13:56):
booie his chances we've seen it before into an emotional,
spectacular performance. Does Gamroth specifically have the kind of skills
that can be an anti to what olli Era does best?
Create chaos, make it emotional and shine through that because
he's the guy that will show up at your college
keg party and leave with your girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I mean, what's interesting to me is like what Gamrod
is up against here. Obviously you just play this video,
but everyone who knows, like the Brazilian fans or nationals,
you know what I mean, Like, they're extremely pro Brazilian,
and Charles is obviously even among their general preference for
cheering for their own countryman, Charles is a special figure
even among that. So like this is you know, Gamrot

(14:40):
is walking into the mouth of the lions den. Here.
Something to think about too is what that might mean
be see if it goes to a decision, which I
feel like is unlikely. I just feel like there's no
way it goes the full freight. But you know, if
it does, the fact that there's gonna be like a
go cheering crowd specifically just for Charles and nothing for
Gamrot could play a role. Anyway. Here's the point I'm
trying to make for this fight. I really believe that

(15:05):
Gamroth has to be aggressive here because BC could he
win by trying to play it safe, get the takedown,
you know, get to the back, hold it busy work,
just kind of neutralize and nullify what Charles does. He
could do that, that's not a thing that's beyond his grasp.

(15:25):
But I feel like if he does that, you're gonna
let a vulnerable guy who still got some moxie and
some willingness to go for it to hang around way
too long. I actually feel like what Gamro has to do,
whether it's in the standing or whether it's on the ground,
he has to take the no. I'm not saying he
has to do what Poeton did at three twenty BC,
but something with that kind of spirit, taking the fight

(15:48):
right to him, aggressively putting him on the defensive, and
really making him suffer as a consequence. I feel like
if Gamrock tries to play this one safe in enemy territory,
even with a vulnerable Charles, he will miscalculate what the
goal is and end up on the losing side of things.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
And I don't think he will because you know, I
reference that video of him living at the gym, facetiming
his wife and kids. I believe back in Poland, correct,
is that?

Speaker 7 (16:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean the amount of hunger built into the lifestyle
and the separation from family is palpable. I mean the
best fights, ultimately are when two guys have equal amounts
to prove. For Gamrock, this is about proving that although
he's come close before, although he's lost close fights and
won them, let's not forget he has that disputed decision

(16:36):
when over Arman Saruki and who's ahead of him at
the moment in the standings. This is Gamrock's window right now.
He absolutely chased this fight because he knows he's ready.
But on the flip side, you have a hunger in Olivera,
not just to please the hometown fans, but to make
this short turnaround on four months since getting flatlined by
Taporia and to show us that he's sick of here

(17:00):
about retirement. In fact, here's Olivera addressing that sickness right
now in this interview this week.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
I also want to ask you. I've seen some people
float the idea around there and asking if this could
be your retirement fight. You've obviously had a lengthy career
fighting at home in real you know people are wondering that.
So I just want to make sure we still got
Charles Olvera for a while, or or could maybe this
be it?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (17:24):
I hated Igad Vydak visit Jules Case.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
I don't listen this the retirement talk comes from you.
I never said maybe I'm playing.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Maybe I'm fighting bad and like everybody was retire and
no moment I thought about it.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
In no moment I thought I thought I thought about
it either, So I'm not for the moment, I'm not
thinking about.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It, Luke. Just to be fair about the stats, we
already know, OLIVERA is the greatest finisher and submission artist
in the company's history. He's third all time and wins,
and he's second in terms of active length of his
career or only second to Jim. This is his fifteenth
year in the UFC and he's entering his forty eighth fight.

(18:05):
You gotta believe it's pretty remarkable if he can get
a win here and stay in the elite, closing in
on thirty six with a style that almost welcomes carnage.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yes, although I mean the reason to me why it
would be so impressive is if you just look at
this situation and again the odds speak to how close
it really really is given the circumstances. The thing that
I really also go back to, BC, is, I mean,
this is the kind of fight historically someone in Charles's
position should not win. Right, You've got a guy like

(18:37):
Gamrot who is okay short notice, but I mean, you
know he's gonna be ready. You know, he's probably gonna
have the cardio. He's certainly going to be like a
dog on a bone, and no matter what, it's gonna
be a tough guy to get out of there early,
even if you do get him out, Like, you're in
for a fight when you have Gamrot, at least a
laborious one where it comes to a lot of wrestling
and scrambling, so you know what you're kind of in for.
But the interesting part BC is, you know, well I

(19:01):
kind of go back to it. I mean a little
bit earlier. It's I'm kind of getting lost to my point,
here I apologize. I'm just trying to sort of go
back to it's really the kind of mentality that you've
got with Gamrot, and to what extent he elects one
or the other, I think it's just gonna have a
tremendous impact on the fight.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I mean, ro leads all lightweights in six, landing five
point three successful takedowns per three rounds. Also, of course,
we've targeted him at times as a bit of a
boring or safe fighter. He does have five post fight
bonuses in eleven years appearances. Sorry, debuting in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yes, I forgot in conjunction with this, it's kind of
related me. See, do you remember a couple of shows ago.
I can't remember how long ago it was. Maybe it
was last show last Friday where we saw a video
of gam Rod getting the news that he had gotten
the fight with Charles over there. Gamrod is a guy
that people don't want to fight. He had a win
over so Yukin at a time that was a little
bit surprising. He did that, and it was supposed to

(19:58):
launch him and it didn't. So yu Can was still
just the guy that ended up kind of moving along
faster and again that you know that win was could
have gone either way. I understand, but the points on
to make is due. This guy has to know if
you mess this up, you know when is the next
opportunity against a main event former champion ever gonna come
your way? Like you just know? BC am I saying

(20:21):
this is it will never happen again. That might be
a little bit much, but the fact that we even
have to contemplate that shows how serious this is. This
is a very small window to capture a very large prize.
He can't mess this one up, and I do think
that will probably change or at least effect anyway the
way that he fights.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Gambrot did bounce back from that split decision lost to
Hooker from last year when he took a decision from
Ludevolt Klein in May of this year. Let's not forget
he's got wins over RDA, Raphael Physiv, Jalen Turner, Sarukian,
Carlos Diego Fajeda. He's done some things in this rise.
I also mentioned the five point three successful takedowns per
three round fight. Luke. The question I was going to

(21:00):
ask you, of course, was the potential or possibility that
their contrasting ground games would cancel each other out. But
we've got some sound here, and by the way, I
didn't want to not mention on the last sound, Danny
siguris mustache, looks, looks fantasm. I mean, that's that's gaucho
level right there.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I know the signor bigote is what I him.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, the ladies must be lining up to that man.
Anyway back to this. Here is gam Rat by the way,
on the UFC's Unfiltered podcast with Matt Sarah saying basically
he's not afraid to do anything on the ground with
Chuck Matteo's a lot of a lot of guys are
free to go to the floor. With Charles OLIVERA, I

(21:41):
don't think you're gonna be afraid to do it.

Speaker 9 (21:44):
Oh, bro, Jiujitsu and restling is my background.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
This is in my head.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
I feel in my DNA like I can roll with
him in the ground. I think there's gonna be epic
fighting the ground for sure, because I don't afraid he's
in the ground. I go, I will go take him down,
and I'm gonna try and roll with him in the ground.
But Bro, this is gonna be all raunther fight. I
gonna exchange punch with him, exchange wrestling. I wanna test

(22:11):
myself against him in the ground, sow. This is gonna
be no stop action for sure, Bro. Five round no
stop action. But maybe maybe we don't need it. Fight once,
you know, to sew epic fight for sure, super excited
and Bro, I go to his hometown, to Brazil, all
Brazil against me. Give me this an edge, Give me

(22:32):
this an edge because I grow up with this. Every boy,
every booy will be power to me.

Speaker 10 (22:37):
Bro.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
And you know what wrestling is power, Brother, Wrestling is power,
pamp pump pump, control, strength, conditioning, everything.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I love you, Cannon, he can fight tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Jimmy, Hey, you know will look he wants to smoke
and I don't know if he'sawone. He showed up to
his public workout in the crowd was yelling something translated
to the equivalent of he's going to kill you.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yes, Yeah, You're gonna die.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
What do you make of his words there? First of all,
he's been saying at every interview that it will be
a high paced, high action fight. You could guess that
to be correct, give him the circumstances and the opponent,
But do you think he's going to have the success
on the ground that will not make this need to
be a five round kickboxing match with the ground games
canceling out.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean, the thing about Gamrod is he's got incredible scrambling.
That really is the reason why he was able to
beat soar Yuki. And like you know, takedowns for takedowns
and set up for setup, and you know the many
different components that go into a dominant wrestling game, they
both are basically the same or you know, pretty close.
But it was that scrambling b see that he was

(23:49):
just a little bit ahead. But of course that's a
very different kind of control that's being exerted between Soyuki
and and Olivera. The question is whether Olivera, you know,
I really wonder what he's going to do. I really
wonder what he's gonna do, because I think if he
tries to get behind Olivera, then you set him up
for leg entanglements and or potential back takes. And if
you get chess to chess with him, you have to

(24:11):
deal with his guard. But that's actually much more manageable
if he hasn't hurt you yet, you know, so for example,
Benson Henderson got hit in the body and then took
down Pettis, and then Pettis armbarred him from guard, but
he was already like real hurt from a bodykick. Without that,
I don't really know, you know, I'm just saying it's
much more manageable from that position. So I think that
it's how it's it's the question of whether or not

(24:34):
he can use his wrestling in jiu jitsu and his
scrambling to maintain control. To me is I'd be surprised
if he couldn't, to be honest with you, But how
he chooses to do it and what kind of danger
he invites is the question. Because BC you've seen it before,
guys will also for example, you know, you'll see you'll
see him roll for a knee bar, and then they'll

(24:55):
try and stand. And what does Olivera do. He grabs
behind the ankle and then goes daily eva reverse daily eva, right,
and then now he's trying to invert. He's trying to
go to the back, and he's got these leg entanglements
that just grow like weeds on or vines, I should say,
on a fence. If he invites that, you're inviting trouble.
But if you go chess to chess with him, now
you have to break that to really put it on him.

(25:15):
But like you know, as a camping point, I think
that's a winnable fight.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I do, well, we're all gonna be camping with him,
pitching a tent at the excitement in this fight on
Saturday night, I wanted to quickly bring in our betting
expert Long Island, Luke no Ceda. If you're getting plus
money on olivera at home with something to prove, that
might be a different conversation given that this is a
pick them? How do you look at this from a
betting angle?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
So when this dropped, we mentioned the odds, like a
week ago it was minus one twenty Oliver EA plus
one hundred Gamrat. I jumped right on Gamrot at plus money.
To me, I feel like he should be the favorite here. Yeah,
it's a pick them right now. I will feel a
little fomo when and if Charles becomes a dog, because
I'll feel like, fuck, I should have taken Charles as
a dog. But I'll take whoever's plus money here. So

(26:01):
I'm riding with Gamroth.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Let's go. Yeah. I like momentum Gamrotz got it. He's
got the right attitude, Luke. When we look at what's
at steak here, number four is Olivera, a lightweight. Number
eight is Gamrod. If we're trying to look at where
the division is going, we know that saryuki In will
be facing Dan Hooker Hooker, excuse me, coming up Hooker.
Just god, look, Arman is number two right now, Dan Hooker,

(26:23):
number six. There's rumors that number three Max Holloway could
be in the running for number seven. Patty Pimblet and
I think we're starting to come to the conclusion that maybe,
just maybe mid January, the first UFC on Paramount card
could be headlined by the champion, Ilio Traporia against number
five Justin Gaechee. If all of that is true, what

(26:46):
do you think is a steak here for the winner?
Ultimately in this four versus eight matchup?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Sar yuki In Sarry Kim Gamrock clearly trying to break
into the top five. He's trying to get into orbit
for a time shot. I don't think that's in any
way of some kind of mystery. On the other side,
for Olivera, I think obviously he would yes mathematically he
would probably drop out of the top five. But it's
a little bit more than that, right to get brutally

(27:12):
finished in the way that he did against Aporia, come
back in an inadvisable timeline, and under this scenario also
lose to gam Rot. And let's just say something, b See,
what if Gamrock pounds him out like that is a
really bad loss? That would be kind of you know,
I mean truly adding insult to injury. At that point,
you'd be clearly out of the top five. And I

(27:33):
think most folks would then say, you know, not incapable
of giving people a tough fight on the right day.
But that's where you're sort of at like benil dry
Yusch territory. You know, good fighter, certainly, but and gives
the tough ones sometimes. I really gave Gamrot, for example,
a really tough fight, but at the same time, you know,
just can't quite get over the hump because he's sort
of like always floated on that bubble. You'd have descended

(27:55):
back down to that part of the of the division,
which he hasn't been a part of in quite some time.
So this is like holding on to what you've got
in a significant way. Dude, Olavera. He wanted to compete
in Brazil. He wanted to be here in front of
his people. I make no judgments about the desire to
do that, but on the timeline he did it, he
is just courting significant risk if he gets grinded out

(28:17):
BC and it's like the star Yuki in fight where
it's like, okay, one guy won, but you know this
guy is still clearly dangerous. Maybe we have a different conversation.
But if he gets battered here a little bit by
guy not known to do battering, I think that's a
massive drop on his stock.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I'm with you. Before we hear LT's prediction, let's hear
one more piece of sound from Gamra talking about not
only what's at stake in this fight, but why he
is potentially a problematic opponent for Ilia La Leenda to Oporia, I.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Did mistake a couple of times. When I'm thinking about
what will be the in the future, the next one.
Right now, my focus is the Charles I passed him.
Then I can think what will be next?

Speaker 7 (29:02):
But but is.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Is in my name?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
But it's a huge name in the media and of
course in UFC.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Give me him.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I say, yes, the one, the same short notice.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
Or something like that.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
He's from Europe. I am from Europe.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
For sure, there's going to be the biggest bad fight
in the Europe.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
From the lightweight division.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Iah is his great fighter, like he proved that the
best in the in the in the UFC is Fertal lightweight.
But I believe like my style is a very problem
to his matchup.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
So the first is the charge.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
But in the future when I can meet him, he's
going to be really entertaining fight because of course.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
He has heavy hands.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
It's real dangerous in the feat but I want to
test test him the wrestling in.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
The jiu jitsu.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
For sure, I am I will be a big problem
for him.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Look pre Top thirty divorce, would you agree that, uh,
this man cam Rock could a problematic style matchup for
the new lightweight champion.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I wouldn't rule it out, but I think that this
is not this is not top of my mind. Yeah, granted,
it seems like what we're gonna get, as you indicated,
is Taporia and Gai Chee, And then you would imagine
so you can if he stays on the winning side
of things, that that would be the one after that.
And I guess if we see that, that's going to

(30:28):
give you a much better answer. The what I'm trying
to make is I would not rule out the possibility
that Gamrock could make. You know, Gamrot's gonna be a
tough matchup for anybody, probably, right. I mean, I know
Hooker beat him, but you know that was a really
inspired performance by Hooker to get there. He's a tough fight,
so I imagine to be a tough fight for a
lot of guys. I'm just really not ready to crown
him ready for the really top top guys in the

(30:51):
division just yet without improving it a little bit more
along the way.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
That's fair. But post divorce tritoria, that's a difference.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Is that is that a real thing?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's what the interwebs seemed to create the picture that
it's true and while it certainly could go either way
when you have that kind of chaos in your life,
I mean, do you remember when Shane Moseley, at nearly
age forty beat the bags off Margarito while he was
in the midst of that divorce trial with his ex
wife jin who who won the trial so aggressively she

(31:22):
even got control of his title belts and was like
go fight that fight you're gonna lose anyway, And he
went in there and battered that man with the loaded raps.
We also saw when Merle broke Poetan's heart, he came
back and knocked a fool out, But that's kind of
what he does anyway. Does this concern you if this
emotional breakup causes any change to the to the current

(31:44):
arc of your favorite fighter.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I when I and you know when I say it,
I mean it when I tell you I could not
possibly give a fuck less. You know I'm saying the truth.
You know I'm saying the truth.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
All right, Long Island look reminding us that Mackenzie Dern,
post divorce from Wesley, probably fueled by her need to
financially support him, had a fantastic victory.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
This is a weird line of conversation.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
But you know, Bruce Springsteen's follow up to Born in
the USA, The very underrated Tunnel of Love, was completely
written through divorce, Luke, So it can it can produce
the best art.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I We'll tell you. You know what someone told me
once about divorce, and this was not my dad, who
probably has quite a lot to say about divorce, is
that men typically grow beards after divorces. Have you had that?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh? No, ponytails and sports cars. We know the midlife
crisis that's coming, right.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's not about midlife crisis so much, is It's more like,
you know, you sort of ages you. You know, it
sort of turns you to the next version of yourself
in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, we should probably get off this topic because I'm
sure everybody hates it. But back to the fight itself, Luke,
who wins Saturday?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
And how I'm gonna pick gam rot and just say
I hope Charles wins. And I know that's kind of hedging,
but it's it's I think I bet a lot of
people feel that way, right, I bet a lot of
people feel like man, and it's slightly different set of circumstances.

(33:19):
I wouldn't be worried about Charles at all, and maybe
you still aren't. I'm sure there's gonna be some people
out there being like, I'm still not worried. Fair enough,
fair enough, But I'm just saying there's probably also some
that are like the turnaround and the vulnerability that comes
with It's not a joke, man, And I know the
best fighters in the world think I'll be fine. I'll
make a turn around. Look what happened to Vulcan Islam.
Even if you thought, wow, Vulkan was entering that fight

(33:40):
under unenviable circumstances, did anyone be like, Oh, he's gonna
get smashed in the first round with a head kick
ko Like, no one even that was beyond what people
were sort of considering among the known universe of expected outcomes.
I'm not saying that's gonna happen here. Gam Rot has
really shown nothing quite like that in the past. But
what I am saying is, to BC's point, this is

(34:01):
Gamrock's chance to break through. This is historically speaking, a
fight a guy like that should not lose, especially given
like some of the age differences and the mile difference.
I think as well, I think that Gamrot is a
serious threat to Charles here, so I'm gonna give it
to him. But at the same time, wouldn't it be
great if Charles could rally from the worst loss of
his career. Wouldn't it be great if he could be

(34:23):
received by his people as a winning fighter. I don't
know who else would be against something like that. So
Gamrock's probably gonna get his hand raised. But man, it
would be so great if it's Charles.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I understand where you're coming from. I think this does
go the distance. I think we're gonna see enough of
a slow down from Olivera coming off the ko lost,
a short turnaround, the compounding of age and mileage, where
he'll do enough to look good, excite the crowd, and
make this a fun main event. But I like the
momentum of Gamrot. I like the gas tank, I like

(34:55):
the motivation, and even though I don't, I think we'll
see more on the feet all in the ground. I
think it'll be the mix of the threat of the
takedown that really allows Gamra to come ahead. I could
even see this being a splitter majority. But I think
Gamrat will win a close, competitive and even fun fight
here on enemy territory, which will certainly be the best

(35:15):
win of his career, because I mean, as long as
it's not heavily disputed in the wrong direction. But breakthrough
possibilities here for Gamra, and I just like what I've
seen about him leading up to here. Let's stay on
this card LT and continue down to that Cole Maine event.
Are enough people talking about Montel Jackson right now? The
three to one favorite at bantamweight. Riding a six fight

(35:39):
win streak, He enters as a minus three to ten
favorite overall against former multiple time Flyway champion Devison Figuredo,
who's looking to shake off a two fight losing skit
against the league competition at bantamweight, and as a plus
two point fifty underdog. Luke, you gotta love this matchup.
But the only thing Montel Jackson has missed up to

(36:01):
this point is sort of a breakthrough win over an
elite opponent. This would give him that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, it certainly would. There's a lot of reasons to
be excited about Montel Jackson. Thirty three hasn't quite broken
through and the timeline that you would want, But to
the point you make me see, he loses to Brett
Johnson twenty twenty, and he's been off to the races
since then, beating Demon Black Cheer two fights ago, and
then Daniel Marcoz, which is a very very good win.
That's a good fighter. He got that win against, and
he did it in a very professional way. Also Devison

(36:27):
the Figoredo, not for nothing, very good fighter, but he
got his knee shredded obviously against Corey Sanhagen bec first
fight back. He's older. I think he's kind of found
his limits at bansamweight. Dude, the UFC is clearly saying, hey,
Montel Jackson, we can tell you might be something. Here's
your first really good chance to prove it against a name,
an aging name, a declined name, but a name just

(36:47):
the same. Let's see what you can do. This one
should be very, very good. I love this fight.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Montel Jackson thirty three years old, by the way out
of Milwaukee. This is his moment, that six fight win streak.
He did knockout Demon Black Cheer in the first round.
He's fresh off of a three round decision over Daniel
Marcos and Luke. Do you know about the legend of
his hand size? Do you know this?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Who's this Montel Jackson?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
So, doesn't he have the same sized gloves as like
brock lesnar or something.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Dude, this is a throwback picture to Montel Jackson. I
keep wanting to say Montel Jordan, by the way, but
this is how he does. I mean Luke once upon
a time and not so. Look at that's Francis and
Ganu's hand right there. That's the predator. That's the one
of the largest scariest men we've ever met in this sport.
That's a bantam weight going tip to tip, finger to

(37:36):
finger with him.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
What do you think that suggests? What is he backing? Luke?
I mean, you know what I mean? A punch? Probably
a punch, right.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
BC. Do you want to fondle his genitals?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, thank you very much. I am interested in you
because you are an undercart assassin in Montel Jackson is
trying to become really a main inventor. He How good
is this man in your eyes?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I think he's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
I think your analysis the spot on that they're like
giving him Figgy to kind of give him a name
propel him up. I do feel like he's had a
few big names fall through, so someone could check that
for me. But like, I feel like he's been booked
against some names and kind of gotten screwed over there.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
But he should win this.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh yeah, geez.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
I did dabble on Figy with the plus seven and
a half, meaning one judge has to give him one round,
and because I think this goes all three rounds, I
think that Montel or Figgy could cover the spread.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Let's go, yeah, so you to your point. He was
supposed to have a fight against Chris Gutierrez in twenty
twenty three canceled, soa he'd never got made off. In
twenty twenty four canceled, far D Bascharat twenty twenty four canceled,
so then he had that, but then after that he
gets the black cheer in the Marcos fight. So excuse
me longer on Luke right on the money.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, as always with that, so big opportunity for Montell
to break through and a similar theme but a different circumstance.
In this welterweight fight. The veteran was Luke is a
plus four hundred underdog against the former lightweight Joel Alvarez
now Alvarez of Spain. His seven to one over his
last eight, with the only loss to Armant Sarukian. But

(39:14):
he's had weight issues along the way multiple times. He's
had some disastrous weight cuts. This is him moving up
to welterweight. Luke, do you feel like this is a
full time move here because he's coming in as a
minus five thirty five favorite against us an established welterweight
in Luke.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, I mean I think his body's changing and it's
a good thing. I think he ran into a couple
of brick walls at one fifty five, but clearly he's exciting.
He's one of Spain's more interesting, you know products. I'm
very curious to see how he looks here at one
seventy for his debut.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, he's riding a streak of three straight wins, all
by stoppage, a knockout of Jaikar close by flying knee,
the TKO from knees and punches against Elvis Brenner, and
then he Bravo choked Mark Chacase before that did get
stopped by Saryuki and in a fun fight there. But
big moment and big opportunity for this guy who talked
a lot this week about how hard that weightcut was

(40:09):
for him, even assumes this weight cut will be difficult
as well. At one seventy. I mean, he's always been
a big dude, an action guy. But at thirty two
here maybe not too dissimilar to Jackson, although Jackson seems
closer to the to the top here at Bandam Wait.
Big opportunity for for Alvarez at Welterway LT. When you

(40:30):
look up and down this card, I don't know if
it's sizzles, but there's certainly some offerings here worth tasting.
What else is jumping out at you?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
It's a good question. Let me see if I could
pick one here. I'll say Chafelle Felio against Clayton Carpenter.
He's got a little bit of juice to it for
me that that one's gonna be on. I think that's
the last prelims, or maybe it's the second to last.
I'm not sure how they put it in card or.

(41:00):
I think some people might say BC, the Vitor Petrino
and Thomas Peterson fight because it's heavyweight, might have a
little bit of fun to him. I'm not really part
of that. The one prospect that I would say is
really worth watching Beatri's Mosquita. Multiple times BJJ world champion
and actually a good one with a great game. She's
undefeated five and zero, taken on Arena Alexiva. That should
be a very good fight, or at least Misquita BC

(41:21):
is where her career is worth following. And you're asking, like, oh,
you know, I know people are kind of down on
BJJ prospects, and I understand that. I don't know how
far Mosquito will go BC. But what I would say
is based on what I've seen from her game and
just obviously from jiu jitsu as well. But you know
what she did in in LFA and early MMA, there's
reason to believe she could be quite interesting. Obviously, there's
a fight at one hundred and thirty five pounds Long Island. Luke,

(41:44):
where are you the Lucas Hoocha fight? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
No, but I just want to say it's worth noting
we open the card and end the card with an
Olive era Simon Oliver in the first fight, Charles Oliver
in the last fight. Simon Oliver too, the only fighter
on this card to missweight, missweight by eight pounds. Oh,
that will hopefully stay on the card and just be
a Catchwaight. At this point got to give a shout
out to my two Aussies on the card. Con Offley,
who is winless in the UFC coming off the tough

(42:08):
but you know, maybe he can beat to Karlohamos here.
I'm not giving him much of a chance. And Stuart
Nickel against Lucas Hocha is a pickham one.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Also, also we see Caroly nikobl Keevich on this card
at one time game.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
From the one of the last remaining from that twenty
fourteen Ultimate Fighter Straweight season. She's thirty nine riding a
two fight losing skid. But don't forget she she had
that like five fight resurgence before that. So shout out
to the former title challenger gave put you on on
the hospital at MSG. People forget that and a trust
laws there also be it a rising Rosanami Unis at

(42:42):
UFC two on one, probably the best win of her career.
It is sad to see our heroes come to the end. Luke,
by the way, Luk is only thirty three. He has
lost three of his last five. He's been stopped in
all three by some decent names. Odds wise, they're writing
him off into the sunset here.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
It feels like no, h yeah, And they gave him
a guy who's a bruiser. I mean, he's a bruiser
at fifty five. Let's see what that looks like at seventy.
But he fights balls out. You know, he's an attacker.
That's what that's what he does. That's who he is,
that's his fighting identity. Yeah, b see they I mean
Luk is not that old. But they might be trying
to cash him out. I'm not I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, and Carolina to close there is fighting Julia plastri
at strawwaight uh.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
By the way, speaking of Olivera's are we long from
one of Cowboy Olivera's kids to make his MMA debut.
That guy's got a lot of kids.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Right, how many kids? Oh? You're right, like the Antonio
Crimarti of MN.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yes, that guy.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I don't know if he has ten or not, but
he might have something. Guy's got his regular own Brady bunch.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
He's just fill in the streets, if you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Right, yeah, just my man, Like whenever you see him
a punch in another man, he's actually in his mind
punching condoms. He hates him, he just can't stand him.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
All right. Yeah, hey, yeah, I don't know how to
transition out of that, but I'll try.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Imagine if ye had he won a fight and they
were like, what went through your mind in the finish,
she was like, I just don't like condoms, and I
just saw I just saw him as one big old
trojan and I was like.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
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(44:51):
twenty six and be there in November at MSG that
is in Islam versus JDM main event that I ca wait,
all right, let let's go. How about that Colemane too. Hey, look,
this year might end with a bang, at least pay
per view wise, right, what are we thinking for December?
What do you think they're gonna do December sixth? Because

(45:13):
there's reports that it could be O Sean O'Malley versus
Songy Dong and the Colemane, which is a good fight,
but I don't know if that's the Colemane, but like,
what do you think the December main event is.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well, who's available? Oh, could be Morob that's true.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
That's that's that's true. And now pyotor Yana is saying
that he was physically compromised in their first fight.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, I mean that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Big Gong had a broken rib. It seems against Poeton.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I mean everyone, people, people don't care. I'm not even
saying that they should. I'm just saying it's kind of
funny that It's like, I mean, I get that there
are there are always gonna be meaningful differences in case
to case, but it's just kind of funny. It's like,
oh wow, man. Like one of the lessons I learned
was Poton was telling the truth when he said, you know,
he was injured coming into that fight, and no, granted
he said it lay and you know it was, it

(46:02):
wasn't quite as immediate. And I think then also changes
things again, there's always going to be a set of
circumstances that affect it. But then Big Uncle loses and
it's like, oh, I had a broken rib and it's like, no,
you didn't, you fucking sour grapes kill joy. You know,
it's like didn't we just see that, Like guys a
do this all the time, and then be Poton proved
there's a big difference, like and these things are real

(46:23):
and that they do affect you. It's just kind of
funny who gets who's the recipient of injury grace and
who isn't. And you know, again it's a broad set
of circumstances that affect it.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
But it's just kind of funny to what I mean,
everyone's injured, but you signed a fight, you show up
to fight agreed.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
No, No, I mean I don't have sympathy for Uncle
Lfe because A, to your point you agreed, and then
B I'm not sure would have made a difference. You know,
it just seemed like Poton had a great idea about
how to pursue that fight.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
So yeah, you know angrily yeaheah. By the way, reminder
all of you out there, UFC three twenty one is
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(47:09):
brought to you by Cuervo. You'll get LT, You'll get BC.
You're gonna get Jed MSU number two for the second
straight time. LT. Your thoughts, Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Know, we got to see that dirt bag one more
time and I can't wait to see him show up
to our studios and then get served for you know,
I don't know SA well, Jesus, I don't know about that,
but served for something something along.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yes, yes, he'll sue himself inevitably, eventually. We are contractually obligated.
It seems to put Connor McGregor in our rundown every
week he's back. You do this, You do this Topic
number two. Connor McGregor accepted in a retroactive eighteen month
doping suspension for repeated testing failures the Combat Sports Anti

(47:58):
Doping season. If you will. The UFC's new in house
testing program suspended Connor dating back to multiple times where
he was unavailable about his whereabouts for testing in twenty
twenty four. How convenient is it, however, that the retroactive
expense suspension will expire just in time for Connor to

(48:21):
make his fighting return this June. On Donald Trump's birthday
Sunday the fourteenth at the UFC White House event, Luke,
is it too convenient in your eyes? How do you
sort of look at this breaking news of some sorts
this week?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Let me let me, let me, let me let me
pull Long Island Luke on this one if I'm may,
because this is really how I kind of see the
whole thing Long Island, Luke, what's up? Do you give
a fuck?

Speaker 7 (48:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Is this the song and dance of the new Usada?
Is this like what we're doing? Like it's it?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I mean, here, here, here's the thing. Then listen, this
is what you have to understand about this scenario. Right
by the way, BC, did you see that PFL cut
ties with Usada? Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I did not see that. Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, they cut ties with Usada. So like Usada is
on their way out the sport. I want to point out,
years and years after I declared all the things that
were going to happen, in fact did happen. Sure enough,
now they're gone. BC. If I have a curse in
my life, it's sometimes I'm wrong, and you know, terribly.
So like when I said Devin Haney was going to
tune rine up like a guitar that you know, we

(49:27):
have bad moments, but when I'm right. One of my
other problems is that I'm right too early, and that
was one of those cases. But let me just make
this point. There is a benefit to what the UFC's
new system offers relative to what USADA offered. Namely, the
system is much more humane relative to you Sada. Right,

(49:48):
the punishments are not as onerous, the declarations publicly of
who has tested without really having the chance for that
athlete to defend themselves. That doesn't happen anymore, right, And
there's just a series of ways they've they don't have
like strict liability in the same kind of way that
they do with USADA. Like there's just a lot of

(50:09):
humanity and athlete care relative to the way you SADA did.
It baked into this new system, and when they launched it,
you know, they were trying to solve for some of
those problems, Like it just it created a lot of
friction with media, created a lot of friction with their
own roster of athletes. Like it just created was a problem.
They they didn't want it anymore, to say nothing of

(50:32):
like the fact that Yousada just seized themselves as vice
cops and they wanted the UFC to help them get there,
and so they no longer had faith in them Organizationally,
what I'm trying to make is that's what it's better
for relative to the way that it was with Yousada. However,
it is also an in house system. You know, why

(50:53):
would a system be in house at a for the promoter?
And you might be like, well, you know, doesn't NFL
have their own house. Yes, but that's what something they negotiate.
I mean, there's independent agencies they do for testing and whatnot,
but it's something that they negotiate with the athletes, Like
all of the protocols are put in place with their
safety and their privacy rights in mind, and the punishments

(51:14):
are negotiated down for all these other reasons, like it's
a there's a handshake that goes on here. You don't
have that. And even without that, again, it's still more
humane than Yousata system. But any system that the UFC, dude, like,
what about what anyone understands about the Ultimate Fighting Championship
and the way they do business is divorced from the
idea of having maximum control. It's just every it's every

(51:37):
it's part of their organizational DNA. They want to have
maximum control over the media, they want to have maximum
control over their roster, maximum control over there the market.
And again some of that works and some of that doesn't.
But that's that's what they're all. That's their orientation. And
so people like, oh, wow, isn't it convenient that like
Connor's available, Guys, it's an in house system? Like what

(51:59):
what did any buddy expect it to be? I mean,
I'm not I'm not telling people they don't have a
right to feel that that's not a great system. But
when they announced this system and they announced it as
being in house, these kinds of things at a bare minimum,
I cannot declare to you, oh this was done underhanded BC.
That's really not my point, but you lose the presumption of, oh, well,

(52:20):
this is ordinary business because it is in house, and
those things are worth some level of interrogation. It's just,
you know, do we really think the UFC is going
to keep a system of athlete control and like you know,
public image maintenance in house? And it really undercut their
ability to do business. That seems unlikely to me Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
The CSID press release was quoted the say McGregor miss
three attempted biological sample collections within the twelve month period
in twenty twenty four, which constitutes a violation of the
UFC's anti doping policy. Athletes are required to provide accurate
whereabouts information at all times so they can be contracted
and submit to biological sample collections without prior warning. McGregor's

(53:03):
mistest occurred on June thirteenth, September nineteenth, and September twentieth,
and we're each classified as whereabouts failures. By Sea said
under the new UFC anti doping policy, Luke that June
thirteenth one seems to align with the lead in to
that International Fight Week main event later that month that
he was scheduled in his return against Michael Chandler. The

(53:23):
broken toe got him out of it. Do you think
it was a broken toe or do you think it
was three hundred and seventy five consecutive days of going
ham at night? You know what I'm saying. After he
definitely was dirty during the roadhouse filming. Let's be honest
about that.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I mean, I mean again, remember he had a
traumatic injury and I thought that day up, he'll probably
never fight again, and I mean, if he does, god
only knows what condition he's going to be in. I
didn't care that he used medicinally, assuming that's what it was,
that there was some kind of what do you want
to call it, monitored pharmaceutical process, I don't really have
an issue with it. He wasn't competing at that time. Yeah,

(53:59):
of course you need to tell me what your whereabouts are,
but he didn't fight during that time. I mean, of
all the things to be bitter about, Connor McGregor, I
just feel like this is probably for me, quite close
to the bottom of the list. It's amazing that like
this kind of thing gets a lot of attention, like
some of his other stuff doesn't. But whatever, we don't
have to have that conversation. I'm just pointing out. I'm
just pointing out, you know, yes, if you compete in

(54:22):
a system like this, do they need to have your whereabouts?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
H did he fail to do that? Apparently? Should he
be punished for it? Obviously, But we should also know
that the reason why he may have done that stuff,
at least initially to the extent that he did again,
we're speculating there could have been a very good reason
for it. And then, more to the point, this is
an in house anti doping system. I just think people
need to manage their expectations about that.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah. Connor did talk this past weekend while promoting BKFC
that when he does go into camp soon for this
White House return, which probably comes against Michael Chandler, I
guess could be an ideas in a trilogy, although some
seem that's unlikely. He got Charles olivera this week saying
he'd like to be that opponent. Heck, could it be
Max Holloway. We'll have to wait and see. But here's
what Gregor're talking about, how he's about to enter that

(55:09):
spartan lifestyle, maybe even put the partying behind him for
a bit.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Oh, I have eight months and change out to the
White House event. It's a six month operation, you know.
I consider it a six month operation to get ready
for this about period of isolation for sure, where the
phone will not be answered. All my people involved with
me understand that it is coming. And as I said,
it's a six month operation.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I'm under no illusion of what.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
What lies ahead of me.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
In my preparation efforts, the phone will be switched off
and the work will be executed. That's my focus right now,
and just eager to climb the steps into being ready
for my return. There's a lot at stake, and I'm
very excited at the opportunity. I was right there with
my last one. I was an incredible condition. Just a
slight lapse in concentration led to an injury. I wish

(55:58):
to correct that and show what I'm about.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
So, Luke, no phone, Let's see if he so. No
posting either, No phone, no posting. He's just gonna do
that woke as he says. Luke, Look, I mean hate
him if you will, and you know he gives you
a lot of reasons to His return on the South
Lawn will be interesting to see. Will it be a
complete train wreck or just partial Luke, That's that's sort
of the pull. Or maybe maybe he majestically pulls out

(56:25):
one of those performances that we used to claim. He's
got one left in him, right.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
He definitely needs some good pr say that.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, very good fighter in his prime. Probably not a
great boyfriend, but you know, we can't judge him all here.
Let's go to topic number three, and that was from
Tuesdays Dana White Contender series. Thank you very much, We're
a bantamweight war not only entered the fight of the
year discussion, it's causing some other discussions as well.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
It's certainly not every week that he DWCS bout will
have people declaring it a possible fight of the year,
let alone the greatest fight of all time, as UFC's
YouTube channel did. But Ecuador's Audriann Luna Martinetti his three
round decision win over an absurdly determined Russia's Mark Vologden

(57:20):
in their bandamweight fight on Tuesday netted both of them
UFC contracts. Immediately after the bout, as they were being
sent to the hospital, Dana White also gave each of
them twenty five thousand dollars bonuses, which is not a
normal occurrence. Both were, as I mentioned, hospitalized there, Luke.
Some were even comparing this to Griffin Bonner one or
because of the cuts in the bleeding Lawler McDonald two

(57:44):
now show one more Time along Island, Luke. That UFC
post on YouTube that calls it the greatest fight of
all time. I don't are they saying Dana what greatest
Dana White Contender Series fight or greatest fight Luke Thomas,
how good was this slugfest?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Okay, it's not the greatest fight of all time, it's
definitely not that. However, I will say something about it
that I think is maybe not as far away from
that as you might imagine. First of all, easily the
best fight in Contender Series history period. I mean, that's
such a I mean, I haven't seen every single one
of them, but I've seen a lot of them, and

(58:21):
the people who have seen every single one of them
also think that this is the best fight in Contender
Series history. I just can't imagine what else it would be.
So on top of that, BC round two. Round two
is easily easily easily the best round in Contender Series history.
So first of all, let's just be clear about that
best fight in Contender Series history, best round in Contender

(58:44):
Series history. And what I'm also going to say is, BC,
you have to throw in vollog Dean at least onto
the list of the best fighters to lose on the
Contender Series, because dude, did he not look real polished,
especially in round one.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Dude, the variety of his striking, even while under duress
was insane.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe how good it looked.
You could hear him breathing through everything the right way,
and his footwork was clean. I was like, Yo, this
guy is okay.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
He had one of those gouges on his chin, but
the cutover his eye had different caverns and canyons in Yes,
it was like when you go to ki.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
It looked like he got hit with like a rubber
bullet and it the tore flesh out and then the
flesh tour in different directions as a consequence. But let
me say this, BC, and this is where I maybe
it gets controversial, but I don't. I don't know. I
don't know how controversial this is. You've seen the fight obviously.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yes, yeah, I watched it this morning and I was
loving it.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Okay, dude, Round two is one of the better rounds
I've ever seen ever. Ever, I'll get the fight is
not the best fight because the problem is round three
they were I mean, they were still trying their ass off,
but it wasn't like, you know, it's a good round.
It wasn't an amazing round. Round one was like a
very good round. Round two is just one of the
best rounds you'll ever see in mixed martial arts period. Now,

(01:00:00):
Long Island, Luke, where are you on this? The round
two and then the fight More broadly.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
It's definitely not the greatest fight of all time. It
is one thousand percent the greatest Dana White Contender Series
fight of all time. Gaff and I were doing a
watch along for Live. Shout out to Gaff on one
more round fights. He literally thirty seconds into this fight
said both these guys are getting a contract, and I said,
you're out of your mind. I said, one of these
guys could get flat lined in two minutes and they're
not getting a fucking contract.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Dude nailed it. He called that literally right in the
beginning of okay, round two one of the best rounds
you've ever seen anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
It was, I mean, dude, especially not to stop coming
back on each other in the round two. It was insanity.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Just I will say round three slowed down a bit,
but if you still just isolated that round, you'd be like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Oh, that was a great round. Yes, it's because rounds
one and two were so chaotic that it it. I
can't believe volag Dean withstood that barrage of knees in
the clench. I could not fucking and then to push
Martinetti back at the end of round two battered physically bad?
Was I dude? It it takes your breath away, like

(01:01:05):
it's that kind of thing. So like they're exaggerating how
good the fight overall is, but they're not exaggerating how
special parts of it actually.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Oh my god, the first two rounds, as you mentioned,
round two just being otherworldly. Long Island Lucer Mountie as
the volig Dean was a minus one to eighty betting favorite,
Martinetti was one plus one thirty. It would go down
as the unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty eight on
all three scorecards, two rounds to one for Martinetti, who
showed just as much resolve but wasn't under the same

(01:01:36):
level of damage. I think we got a couple of
pictures on this tweet here of the face of Martinetti
there I'm sorry, a volag dean there on the top right.
I mean that I don't even know how they let
him kept fighting with the crevice over his eye. I mean,
that is beyond permanent scarring. But here's what's crazy. Martinetti
deserved the decision. He got the better of him for

(01:01:57):
the most part, you know, volume wise, and was certainly
nasty with those lead elbows. But dude, the heart and
resolve that Vologdin showed in defeat was almost the most
special part of the whole fight. Like, I know, fights
like this will take a certain chunk out of your
lifespan and future in the cage. But am I crazy

(01:02:17):
to say that I'm almost more interested in Vologdine's journey
after this loss than I am his partner, who was
just as you know, just as responsible for this fight
being a classic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
No, I'm with you. I mean, my heart kind of
broke for Vologdin. I'm like, I don't know if I've
seen I mean, the problem was, you know, obviously round
two got away from him, and then you know, parts
of well parts of all three rounds got away from
the two of them. But there was just enough happening,
I think obviously in this in the second round as well,
where he was he was in a lot of trouble. Well,

(01:02:50):
first round, no, no, first rounding was like he dropped
Martinetti twice, right, so he won that one was the
second and the third one that he lost, But dude,
Like I said, Man, I mean you could throw Kevin
Vichejos on this list as well, like guys who lost
on the Contender series. Is because I just was watching
him and I'm like, this guy has everything you would
want from a prospect. He has everything. Look how clean

(01:03:12):
is strucking is. Look how well rounded he is, Look
how resilient he is. I mean his defense maybe needs
some work obviously, BC not a perfect fighter, far from it.
But the reality here's how I feel. I feel like
bullet Dean is a more talented fighter. I just felt
like Martinetti had you know, you're gonna laugh at the description,
but he had the eye of the tiger man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, he just would not be the length and the
height to that he used, you know, to his advantage
even though they were fighting in a phone booth. It
was that just that much of that advantage was a
big part of that. But I know they don't normally
give bonuses, so Dana giving each twenty five K is
a special moment. But if this fight is getting the
love in house and also on social media that it deserves,

(01:03:52):
and it does deserve it, I mean, Luke, like, these
guys are probably going to be remembered here no matter
what they do for the rest of their career. From
the moment. This is one of those break the bake
moments where I wish TK was like, oh, f twenty
five k, like here's here's you know, five hundred k each,
because they both fought like there was tomorrow, no tomorrow,

(01:04:12):
and and this is you know, I know that, like
this is an incubator where Dana wants to reward the
hungry and wants these type of fights. But you're you know,
it's rare that you can get these type of fights
because both guys have to be so insanely determined. But
I mean, I'm not crazy. This is a They should
be walking out of there with a half million each
after that effort. There's insane, just insane, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Those two guys would have fought to the death if
you let them. Yes, yes, they would have fought to
the death.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Let's go to a here's Martinetti and exiting the cage.
Here's a fan video. You can see just how wobbly
he was in victory all thirteen people and that's the

(01:05:01):
guy that won. I know, crazy. And then we got
a little busheto backstage. You know, I love moments like this.
Let's listen in on these two embracing you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
You're very strong, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
I love you, I love you you, I like you.
I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah you the next, the next, the next fighting yeah
you you you say you say thank you for the
great great fight. Take coach, Thank you, thank you, coach.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Great great moment right there, Long Island. Look when you
were you were saying, you were on Gaffs live stream
during this. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, we were doing a Contender series watching.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You guys losing your mind in round two just I mean,
just going for it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
It was sick and again because Gaff called it in
round one. My mind was blowing that. I was like,
how did you know this was going to go the
distance and it would be war?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
And they both get a contract? But yeah, dude, great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I gotta give Loris Cenko and Anthony Smith, who were
the analyst, credit because both of them had their own
sort of moments similar to al Bernstein after round one
of corrals Castillo one on Showtime where he's just like,
if this keeps up at the pace we're at, this
could be one of the greatest fights we've ever seen.
They felt that also. Man, I'd love to have live
stream this fight. I mean I would have gone full
Pa we Away Luke Thomas style. That would have been Wow, wow,

(01:06:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
D ooh, I'm going to go more. I think Matthew
Stafford and the team might carve him up. You know,
Ravens are looking a little more beatable this year than
I thought they would be to be brought. To be
honest with you, the Chiefs also look terrible. I can't
believe how bad they look.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, well they got to bounce back in a big
way with Patrick Mahomes, who has a more or less
of two hundred and sixty six and a half passing
yards when the Chiefs welcome the Detroit Lions. So I'm
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Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
All right, you think I don't understand. I mean, okay,
I realize that people are gonna be like, oh, look,
we listen to your music and we'd rather die, fair enough,
But what is the charm of Taylor Swift's music if
you're not a thirteen year old girl? And I mean
that sincerely.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Well, now, the thirteen year old girls are going to
learn something about life from the new album, is what
I hear.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Oh she's talking about getting dicked down?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yeah yeah, all right, Hey, let's keep the show rolling
and hit you right between the eyes with topic number four.
One of the biggest stars in boxing, the Mexican Monster himself,
David Benavidez, has been in the news as he continues
to make the media rounds ahead of November's return on
the Ring Champion or Ring magazine card Excuse Me against

(01:10:11):
Anthony Yard in a series of interviews with everyone from
all the Smoke Fights ring champs to Fight heb TV.
Benavida shared a number of interesting updates, including he's done
at one sixty eight, even if for Budd or Canelo,
he will move up to cruiserweights sooner than later, and
he plans to retire in fifteen years as a heavyweight.

(01:10:32):
He also teased the possibility of leaving PBC and Sampson
Promotion shortly to start his own promotional company, Luke, considering
we haven't yet seen him at his new division of
one seventy five against the two all timers b wall
Better Viev, how confident are you, given Benavidez's handspeed in
boxing ability, that he can have the same success potentially

(01:10:54):
here at cruiserweight and heavyweight as his career continues.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I'm a little bit more skeptical of that maybe. So
he's had two fights at light heavyweight, correct, BC, He's
had the Vosdik fight and then the Morel fight. If
there's a common denominator between them, as first of all,
he won both, so he's still undefeated. He's just twenty
eight years old. BC. We forget that at twenty eight

(01:11:20):
he's still like just now entering his athletic prime in
certain ways. So I want to like preface this by saying,
to a degree we should be very excited about what
he can do and not limit him. At the same time,
all we have is the evidence that he has given
to us to evaluate. Maybe someone else's reading of the
evidence tells them something else, but mine tells me, at

(01:11:42):
least for now, some caution about how far he can scale.
This is warranted because he was better than Vosdik, He
was better than Morel. The Morrell grut was a grudge match.
The Morel one BC was more impressive to me than
the Vosdik one, in part because of the quality of
opposition and the nature of the fight. Here's the point
I'm trying to make, though. At sixty eight and down,

(01:12:03):
it felt like, yeah, he didn't have one punch power,
but he could get you out of there if he
needed to. Caleb Plant, I know, survived, but I mean
it was really quite difficult. And then Demetrius Andreide, I
mean he fell apart quickly after what round five or six,
whatever it was that didn't happen at seventy five. They
were much sturdier. So here's what I'm trying to say.

(01:12:23):
On the one hand, BC, he won both. He's just
twenty eight years old. I do believe there's room for optimism.
But when you're saying things like yeah, I'm going to
go to cruiserweight and then you end at heavyweight, I
think I don't know why it's unfair to have a
question to be able to say what has he shown
to this point that makes you believe that those are

(01:12:45):
very likely places he could end up doing great work.
I don't know what that would be. Maybe you have
a different read.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
I mean I would say physical size, meaning height and build.
I would say definitely, that handspeed, definitely, the fact that
he does have a pure boxing ability now he's able
to it's mixed that at sixty eight and seventy five
with a pressure predator style behind his high guard. But
what do we always praise him for his ability defensively
to be offensive the whole time without welcoming back a

(01:13:12):
ton of offense. I don't know. And he's hungry too,
I mean, the whole key of this segment is that
he doesn't want to cut down anymore for the big names.
In fact, let's listen to that sound first, here's Marcos
Vegas a Fight Hub TV talking to Benavidez talking about
that tweet from Turkey who said, right after Crawford be Canelo,

(01:13:33):
can Benavidez still make one sixty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Could you still make one sixty eight?

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Is that possibility?

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
See?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Bro?

Speaker 11 (01:13:38):
My plan is after this fight, I want to go
down in one fifty four. No, Ro, Honestly, I'm done
with Cruiserly, you know what, I want to take this
opportunity though yes, I say cruively, I want to take
this opportunity to you know, congratulate Crawford. You know, he
put a hell of her performance. He's up there in
the Mount rushmore of the greatest fighters of all time.

(01:13:59):
And you know, let Crawford do his thing.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
Bro.

Speaker 11 (01:14:02):
You know, at the end the day, I have no
interest in fighting Crawford. I have no interest in going
down to one sixty eight. I mean, yeah, it's nice
that it would be dope winning all titles, but I'm
way past that on one sixty eight. You know, I
found on any reason I wouldn't even go down to
one sixty eight for Canelo. And I'm just being real
with you, you know, And let Crawford do his thing.
Let him have is you know, do you know, let

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him I want to give his flowers.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Man, because he's a great fighter.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:14:25):
When there's no other fighters coming up from one forty
seven to beat a type of fighter like Canelo at
one sixty eight, you know, when Crawford, you know, he's
one of the greatest of all times. So you know,
I have no interest in going down to one sixty eight.
I'm not saying I'm scared of Crawford or whatever, you know,
but Crawford is a man on one sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
That's his white class.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
I'm done with one sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
So look, I kind of like his stance here. I've
always liked his stance of like, I've done everything I
could to get Canelo and he doesn't want it. So
I'm not gonna sit around and wait and and you know,
not only stop his own development in terms of sitting
around and wait, you know, not taking other big fights.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
What did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
He went to seventy five, fought a former champion of
Vosdik fault Morel now has a title that he has
been upgraded with and is looking for big fights. I
like it mostly because he realizes he'll just compromise himself
physically by cutting back down. You know, you could see
a guy like him go no, I want the money
and fame against Crawford. I'll do whatever it takes physically,

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but there's going to be a diminished version of him
at the end of the day. I actually like that
he's more willing to challenge himself north, whether that's Bevo
and better briev in this division or this talk about
cruiserweight and heavyweight. Here is Benavidez talking exactly that with
Aken Brock about the fact that he believes he's got
fifteen of fighting years left in him.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
I got another fifteen years left him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Years old fighting.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
I fight two times a year. I'm I'm able to
make this money, take care of my investments, and why
would I not want to do that for the next
fifteen years?

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:15:58):
If I take care of my body, well, bro two
fights a year ain't shit, you know what I mean.
And you have enough time to recover, You have enough
time for yourself, you have enough time for your family,
and you have enough time to train hard. This is
something I love to do, man, Like I said, like,
all I have to do is not you know not
fucking drink or do all that dumb shit and just

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stay focused.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
And man, this is honestly, the more focused.

Speaker 11 (01:16:24):
I am, the harder I work, the better I feel
out for, more connected with God, and like, I just
feel like I have so much fight left to me.
And that's what I'm saying. You know, forty forty, another
fifteen years to forty three is really not that, you know,
it's not that old. I mean, you see pack y'all.
You just fought Mario Barrios. Was he forty seven? Yeah,
I see these other great fighters, and it's not impossible.
It could be done, you know what I mean. So

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if I program myself, if I condition myself now to
think like this until I get there, you know, my
mindset is that you don't want to box another fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
So you know, we're doing everything right on this side
to make sure we accomplish that and fulfill that.

Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
I feel like it's gonna be easier too, because the
older I get, you know, obviously, the more weight I'm
gonna put on, the higher I'm gonna go up. I
want to be at you know, as a light heavyweight
for maybe for another five years, then cruise a weight
another five years and then maybe we.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Shout out to the ring champs there Ick and brock Luke.
I like this because he's not gonna leave this division
before he gets a chance at Bevall or better Beev.
But he's thinking smartly. You don't have to worry about
the weight if he goes up to heavyweight. Like I mentioned,
a lot of that speed in boxing advantage. He's durable,
he's hungry. Do you have any idea how marketable this
guy could be as the potential first Mexican heavyweight champion?

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I mean, Andrew Ruiz is Mexican American like him. I
don't want to discount when Andy UIs did and win
that one fight, but like, if he has a chance
to become the undisputed heavyweight champion, this guy could be
the biggest start in the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Yeah, and then coming up from those many weight classes.
And we've said this before, he's been one of these
guys like you know, if you're an MMA, you may
not really feel you appreciate this, but he's kind of
slowly cultivating a bit of a cult following is a
bit of a strong word, BC, but a genuine following
for sure. He's more popular than you might imagine, and
I do think again, there should be a lot of
reasons for his optimism. He's got big goals and I

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kind of feel for him that that Canelo victory should
have been his. BC Canello denied it to him, and
so he had You can see why he's like, I
can't even maybe he even could make sixty eight. But
it's not really about that. He's just trying to chart
a path disconnected from that. Then nobody can take away
from him, and I understand it. It's just it's a
difficult one and curious to see what he does.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, and I won't play the third video, but he
basically says he signed for the Anthony Yard fight before
realizing that Better Beev would be on that same card
as him. But look, this really feels like a setup
for those two to fight next year. You've got Bevall
coming back from an injury. I mean, what is your
confidence level just right now that Better Beef could be

(01:18:53):
either Bevall or better I'm sorry that Benavetez can beat
either Bevall or Better Beev in maybe a year from
now be the on disputed light heavyweight champion.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I I want to see him do it. Yeah, you
know what I mean, I'm not even one of the
I'm not even these guys like he can't do it.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying there's enough questions there.
I mean, dude, those fights are amazing. Those are amazing fights.
Like if they book those, you'd be like, whoo hell, yes,
you know what I mean. I need to see him

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do it. I need to see him do it. I
have enough questions, I think, is what I mean. I
have enough questions at seventy five where I'm like, let's see,
let's see what it looks like first, you know, kick
the tires, take a test drive on that Mitsubishi before
you plunk down fifteen K whatever it is anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
That those will be wild fights him against both of
those guys, they will be incredible wild fights. Bevall will
test his I mean, they'll both test everything from his
hardest chin to his his uh, his skills. Let's not
forget those. Bev all better be a fights. We're just
technical thrillers. Luke tts baby, and who doesn't like a

(01:20:04):
set of tts like we got in those first two
fights against each other?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Right, Yeah, might start eating some that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, fully if I ever saw one. All right, let's
hit topic number five. Hey, I didn't think we'd be
talking about this. This debate came out of nowhere on
boxing Twitter. But the International Boxing Hall of Fame ballots
are out for twenty twenty six. Those that are members
of the BWAA are voting at this time, and suddenly
we're in debate over one Ganadi Ganadavaevich Glovekin sorry brutalized

(01:20:37):
his middle name, the retired forty three year old former
two time unified middleweight champion, and what started off as
a few left field comments that felt like from Ryan
Garcia during the Inside the Ring show turned into a
multi day boxing Twitter debate that I'm shocked we even
went this far with.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
The critics are Cidey Chippleg's lack of victories over for
pound rank fighters or Hall of Fame fighters during his career,
despite the fact that he was openly ducked by all
of his contemporary champions and Hall of famers like Sergio
Martinez and Miguel Cota, and forced to wait out two
years before finally facing Canelo at age thirty five and
then suffering two very disputed outcomes. I know that second

(01:21:20):
fight was very close. Still, there remains a loud minority
of boxing critics on social media who believe that Triple
G is somehow not worthy of a spot in the
Hall of Fame. Now, the votes for the balloting will
be released in December, and Triple G headlines what's considered
a weak ballot for twenty twenty six, including fellow first

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timers the late Vernon Forest and Stevie Collins. Luke, We've
talked a little bit about this offline from what you
know of Triple G's run. Is there any element of
this argument in your eyes that holds up to the
idea that somehow, maybe Triple G, despite retiring after that
Canelo trilogy with a record of forty two to two

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and one with thirty seven KOs and tied for the
middleweight record with Bernard Hopkins with twenty career title defenses,
isn't hof worthy?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Can we can we start this conversation where it starts
before we can get to any of this, which is,
who gives a flying fuck what Ryan Garcia thinks about anything?
I mean, I mean, I mean this genuinely, like Ryan
Garcia has spent the lot I know he's in a
better place now. Good. He's got a long way to go.
But he's spent the last couple of years trying to

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do and say the most horrific shit he possibly could.
He has not made amends for it. I mean, I
know he's tried a couple of half assed attempts, but
they are pathetic and more to the point, even without that,
since when has he ever said anything that anyone ever
found intelligent? Ever? Like? What what what about Ryan Garcia's

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boxing history, knowledge or knowledge of the Hall of Fame?
Has he ever flexed in such a way that merits
this kind of response. It's bizarre to me. Like he's
not an interesting or otherwise intelligent person. He has He's
a disturbed person. So like the fact that him getting
on this show and then saying this has spurred this
kind of conversation, to me is wild. All right, putting

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that aside, I mean, I realize that's the genesis of everything.
Let's say, at least can.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
We start here, Luke, Then let's start here and listen
to it, because when Ryan Garcia did list this started
at the shotgun was fired. In fact, I didn't think
we need to bring in Quervo because this was legitimately
some shots fired, Shots fired brought to you by Cuervo.
Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

(01:23:46):
Here is the Inside the Ring show hosted by Max
Kellerman and Mike Coppinger with Ryan Garcia as the special guest.

Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Talking about this, well one Tribaji had no really great victories.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
I mean, what do you be?

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
You know, a lot of people think he won the
first fight, was a great fighter, but he didn't. Nobody didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:24:08):
The thing what I will give him, though, is he's
he was one of the superstars in boxing at a
certain time for for a long time. I will give
him that. But for me, I think it's just a
little hard for me to put somebody in the hall
of fame. Like to say hall of fame, I means
like dang, Like what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
About telling the story of the era?

Speaker 8 (01:24:23):
You could not tell the story of an era without
including triple G.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
What about that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Do you do you subscribe to that hall of fame theory?

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
I do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
I mean, I do see that. But we're talking about
hall of fame. We're not talking about eras you know.
I'm talking about like overall all of boxing, you know,
I mean, I just don't see him as a Hall
of Fame. Yeah, I can't give him that nod.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
But hey, that's a legitimate point.

Speaker 11 (01:24:45):
Was around back then when he was writing because autist
dunt wuldn't have happen me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Find out, So Luke, it wasn't just Ryan Garcia. By
the way, this started an avalanche of people coming out
and just being like, I agree with him, this guy's
overrated from from from the merit standpoint, Is there an
argument against triple G in your eyes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I mean, I like how what Ryan says is in
no way an argument for anything. Because what he never does,
and what I'm going to ask you to do, BC,
is he keeps saying things like these are criteria that matter,
without ever establishing what is the baseline of achievement? What
are the markers the significant markers of achievement that we
have to evaluate in order to judge someone's worthiness or

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otherwise eligibility for these considerations. He never does that. He
just says things like, well he didn't beat anyone great, okay, Well,
to what extent does he need to? To what extent
does that matter? To what extent is that even true.
He doesn't tell you. So BC, let's actually start the
conversation in this particular case where it starts, what are
the relevant benchmarks for consideration that we can now take

(01:25:48):
Triple G's resume and measure that against these particular standards
of excellence to see whether or not he makes the cut.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Yeah, all right, two thousand and four Olympic silver medalists
from Kazakhstan.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
No, no, no category. From categorization standpoint, what are we
looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
We're looking for essentially a mixed criteria of your impact
on the sport. And we can't overlook that because it
is hall of fame. Arturo Gatti, who was a at
one point a world title fighter, got in to some controversy,
but you have to recognize the fact that he was
such an attraction and he fought in such a certain way.

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Triple G captured that. In my opinion, he was a
singular star who had a Jordan brand sponsorship. You want
to be able to accumulate a certain level of titles.
Even though Triple G operated ninety eight percent of his
career at middleweight, He's tied for the all time title
defense record with Bernard Hopkins of twenty He had a
twenty three fight KO streak in his prime, he twice

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was a unified champion. Can you hold it against him
that he was never on disputed champion possibly? Can you
hold it against him that he never was interested in
moving up until that third Canelo fight? Could you even
hold hold it ag against him that some have accused
him of ducking andre Ward during the brief period where
Ward was at sixty eight, Glofkin was at sixty and
there was talk. I mean, yeah, I even think you

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could do that, but I think to some degree it
has to be your performance level. Look, Luke, I argued
against even though Sergio Martinez, the great middleway champion from
Argentina was ultimately was in the Hall of Fame, and
I argue, and even though he's one of my favorite fighters,
I argued against him because I felt his window of
being on top from a pound for pound standpoint and

(01:27:30):
a championship standpoint was so small that we have to
have some line that separates who's a Hall of Famer
and who's not. Tripleg's window was not small. He was
absolutely dominant. He checks off so many of the boxes,
from the eye test to the numbers from the title
defenses and all of that. But part of this criteria

(01:27:53):
I do acknowledge is who did you beat. I think
it was unfortunate for him that the best fighters in
his division, Martinez and Codo, dodged the shit out of him.
Canelo made him wait two years, unnecessarily till he was
thirty five. He got robbed of his biggest win against
Canelo in that first fight, which almost no one believes
should have gone the other way except for Robert Bird's

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wife Adelaide. If that's the only thing he's missing, and
he is missing that, I mean, when you're talking about
his best wins, you're gonna talk about Danny Jacobs, Daniel
Gil Darren Barker, Sergei Derevinchenko. I mean, we were not
talking about a run of Hall of famers here necessarily.

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But I don't think it's as easy to just go, oh,
he's some like great white hope that the media got,
you know, was all about, and not look back on
what we actually saw an absolute destroyer that is very peak,
saw almost no peer in the division's history. I mean,
at the peak of Triple G we were literally having
conversations of what would a fight with him and Marvin

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Hagler look like, I don't know if you can. I mean,
everyone's resume is going have a hole somewhere in how
you're looking at this criteria. I don't think this hole
in his inability to get the biggest names. Oh, you
got to throw in kell Brook, by the way, who
was undefeated when Triple G stopped him. Kelbrooke moved up
two weight classes, of course, but that was probably one
of the best victories as well of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
I don't broke his face.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Yeah, I don't think it's enough in this case to
keep him out of it, like the younger generation seems
to be trying to do right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
So that was a good explanation, Right, here's what we're
measuring against, and here's how his resume lines up with it. BC,
I did a little digging, like, what are some of
the other middleweights that have made it into the Hall
of Fame. So you'd have Bernard Hopkins, you'd have Hagler,
you'd have Carlos monz On, you'd have a couple of
names or a few names like that. And in certain
ways he doesn't quite I mean, he certainly doesn't have

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Hagler's career. Not many people do, and even b Hop
had wins over elite other pound for pound guys. That
is true. However, BC, to your point a more than
twenty fight win streak title defenses, I think twenty of them. Yeah,
I think twenty of them were title defenses right around that,
multi different different multi title unifications during the course of

(01:30:12):
his career. Ducked like a motherfucker. And they're right, you
can't count the first fight against Canelo for him, but
anyone with eyes would probably tell you that that fight
is one that if it had been any other, like
if Canelo is not a star. I just don't see
how TRIPLEG lost that fight. I mean, this is a

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guy with that Partly, BC, he achieved less than other people,
that is true, who made it into the Hall of
Fame in certain ways. Anyway, in other ways, he clearly
achieved just as much as them. But this is also
a guy who did not have the luck of the
boxing machinery at his disposal. He kind of had the

(01:30:53):
unluckiness of it, and that affects how your resume looks
when it's all said and done. And I do think
on some level BC that has to go into the grating.
By the way, most people who vote on this, unlike
Ryan Garcia, think that Triple G is an obvious case.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Yeah yeah, let's show quickly that. By the way, I
scored both Canelo fights for Triple G. And I know
you can't just give him that because your eyes thought
you saw it. But imagine what his resume would be
with those two wins. Now you're packaging two Canelo win.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Totally different conversation, Brook Jacobs.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Here, first is a snapshot at the tail end of
Triple G's run, which does not include the Matthew Macklin
knockout before that Rubio fight. But I'm gonna acknowledge it's
not as impressive as someone with his talent should be.
And then you count in the controversy of those Alvarez
fights right there, and the fact that he was just
trying to stay active and fight whoever was available. But

(01:31:46):
here's Kevin I only sounding off on Twitter against the
loud vocal minorities, saying, if you don't believe that Triple
G is a Hall of Famer, you're an imbecile of
the highest order and not worth debating because you clearly
have no clue, hash tag first ballot, hashtag let's bring
a Dan Rayfield. Of course, who was there for every
step of Triple G's jerney saying more on alert, Triple

(01:32:09):
G fought everybody who dare step in the ring with
him for a decade. He was pound for pound number
one to some. He was rob versus Canelo in the
first fight, had twenty three straight knockouts in his prime,
one of the highest ko percentages of middleweight history, and
scored twenty consecutive title defenses, which is insane. Unified three belts,
what a rock star. Olympic silver medal. Yeah, much ado

(01:32:32):
about nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I gotta put up to Dan Rayfael gets spicy on Twitter.
It's kind of funny to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Lot, especially post ESPN. Dan Rayfully just gets after it.
Here's my boy Matt Brown from Brunchbox and I love
this guy. But this went too far, Luke, Come on.
He put out a meme that basically said, if you
think Triple G should be a Hall of Famer, that
you're working on the the white cop shift there with
Mannix Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
So you got Coppinger, You've got Pug Meyer, Mannix Iolei,
and Rafael all In a row there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Right, Come on, Matt Brown, come on, man, I like
him too.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
I like him too, But I don't really get this.
I don't I understand being like, Okay, he doesn't have,
you know, the resume of be Hop. Okay, he doesn't,
but you don't have to have the resume of Bee
Hop to get into the Hall of Fame. Like, that's
not the point I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
It does go against him that he stayed in one
division for the totality of his career to some degree,
But then again, so did Hagler, so did Hopkins until
that late run in his forties, you know, I mean yeah,
I mean, look, when he was on top, he was
an absolute superstar catchphrases on the drama show Headline five
pay per views, had sponsorships with Hublo and Shives, Regal

(01:33:45):
and Jordan Brand, Like, you know, was a legitimate star. Damn.
I didn't think we'd get this type of hate this early.
It's always like, you know, ten fifteen years later, when
people are like, well, yeah, that guy wasn't that good.
Look at his box wreck, dude, this is what this is?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
How, you know, like Ryan's total casual When it comes
to understanding this stuff because, and I keep trying to
explain this to people, you will think that the biggest
stars of your era, Oh, these will be the names
that carry the test of time. And then it's over
and then they're like, dude, GSP was overrated, John Jones
wasn't shit, Mitris Johnson suck, Anderson Silva wouldn't be that good,
you know. And they're gonna do it for Vulk, They're
gonna do it for poetson the next generations after. They're

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gonna do it for Vulk, They're gonna do it for Poton,
They're gonna do it to Ilia, They're gonna do it
to everybody. It's the mark of someone who can't appreciate
what someone meant at a moment in time and what
those contributions actually looked like. It's like, it's like literally
the mark of ignorance.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Uh quick story on the way out. I once I
was at the Mohegan Sun when Triple G fought Matthew
Macklin on HBO to defend his Middleway title, and those
of us who are ringside, it was like me, Karen Mulvaney,
Steve Kim, We'll never forget the sound of Triple G
scoring a body shot Ko in the second round that
sounded like a gun went off right in front of us,
and Macklin was broken. After that, I ran into Jim

(01:34:56):
Lampley in the food court and he's with his family
and there's a crowd people. I'd never spoken to him before,
and he's like, Brian, Brian, come over here, and he did,
you know, to give him credit, he was like, love
your work, great to meet you, and all I cut
through the you know, the friendliness, and I was like,
Jim is Triple G for real? Like for real, like
all time, for real? Can we believe what we're seeing?

(01:35:18):
And he kind of gave a non answer, but was like,
I'm skeptical. I think so, but we got to wait
and see. And after Triple G famously knocked out Curtis
Stevens at Madison Square Garden Theater. And I'm not trying
to say that the Stevens fight was marquee enough to
be a turning point, but after that fight, everyone from
boxing Twitter went down to Times Square and went into

(01:35:39):
Jimmy's corner to the famous boxing bar, and it was
this cold, ridiculously cold evening and as I walked into
this tiny sliver of a bar. Lampley's crossing paths to
me and your chest to chess with everybody. And he's
got the coat on and the scarf and the hat,
and I go, Jim, Jim, he is for real. And
Jim put whispers in my ear. He goes, he has

(01:36:02):
the finest craft of any destroyer that I have ever
seen in the history of this sport. You're goddamn right,
he's for real. And he walked right out and slammed
the door in my face as like a gust of
wind came in and his scarf flew around the side
of his neck and he walked off into the night.
That was a moment, Luke, all right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
But then we also interviewed him, you know, and he
was like, these two guys when they're fighting, they're falling
in love and like they're not Jim, Yeah they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
They want to bang Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
All right. I think these two men are in a
romantic affair, like they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Yeah, that's not happening right there, But shout out to
boxing there we go. All right, those are your five
topics for the damn week. But a reminder to y'all
you want to reach the show. Why don't you hit
us up at Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Tell
Mikey that you said, hi, show him a piece of yourself.
Really more like a fan sub than like, hey, you

(01:36:56):
know one of the wow right, But those will be
your opportunities to get your stuff hurt on Friday. It
is Friday. So look, we sit in front of a microphone.
Sometimes we say shit, that's just factually incorrect, insensitive, or
just Plaine dead wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Then wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
I think I deserve this one. Look, this one comes
from Greg, he says, gentlemen, this here is a dead wrong. However,
this is an anomaly because it didn't come from you directly,
but by proxy you did report it. This is about
the post that BC shared from at Velutama regarding Alex
Padeda's wind streak, all the wind streaks that he snapped.

(01:37:43):
I also understand all three of you made comments regarding
some minor mistakes. These mistakes weren't all that minor. In fact,
they were actually very dead wrong. Oh boy, I deserve this,
he says. The post claim that he snaps Strickland wind streak,
it was actually only six. Where did they get eighteen?
The post claim that he stabbed snapped Izzy's twenty three

(01:38:03):
fight win streak. He never had a twenty three fight
win streak. He had a twenty fight win streak that
Yan Blahovich snapped. They also claimed Uncliah's fourteen fight win streak,
but it was actually thirteen fights unbeaten. There was a
draw in there in a no contest, which aren't wins.
Again per snickery as always, but that's how we MK

(01:38:24):
fans do know who disrespect to a lax. He's a
legend and has done epic things. But these stats are
definitely incorrect mostly, but your mileage may vary. Hashtag drive
fast all gas. Hashtag how many chigs.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Do you see?

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
They gave away another truck? Luke, did you see that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
I can't say that. I'm paying close attention.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
All right, I'll take that l for that graphic.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
What ya you put that on the show?

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
I do, Luke. We're about to get mahallowed by a
gentleman named Daz.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Back up on that ass and give these motherfuckers a
blast from the past.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Daz says, Aloha, I hope he bare knuckle fights televihim.
By the way, Big Papa keep popa. That'd be Great
during Have you seen this shit? On September twenty ninth,
after watching Kyle Long down a beer, BC asks if
Howie Long's sun was Kyle or Chris Long. BC it
was both. Kyle played o line while Chris Long played
defensive end. Both made the NFL always appreciate the content.

(01:39:24):
Thanks for all the UFC three twenty fight week coverage.
I'll take that out. I was unaware. All right, there
you go. That's it. I'm over for two. Hey, let's
go to number three. This comes from Liam, which is
Luke's favorite boy name in this modern era. H do
you think he's white, Luke?

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Well, not merely that, but he's probably British.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Okay or Irish, possibly Southern Irish. Yeah, there you go, hello,
Liam says. At twenty nine ten of yesterday's show Long Island,
Luke said Dominic Rays hasn't fought a top thirteen ranked opponent,
with Krelav being ranked thirteenth at the time of the
Ko lost to Reyis Well, mister dead, Luke, that statement
is what I call massive cap You see, Krelov was

(01:40:05):
ranked eight when he got his chin properly mauled back
to the don. The donitsk People's Republic by Reyes on
April twelfth, twenty five. Do better, Luke jokes, love the show,
Keep up the good work, long isl Look, are you
really dead wrong here?

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
No, he misinterpreted what I said. What I said is
he hasn't beaten anyone in the top thirteen. Whether Krylov
was ranked in the top thirteen when they fought is
irrelevant because at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
He's not in the top thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
So he liam, you're wrong, actually all right, dead wrong
in fact? Yeah, yeah, I mean you tried to bring
a receipt. You tried to dunk on us. Turns out
it was charging all right, no tea bags on this
side of the court. Thank you. Our final one comes
from Caine Stewart kin with a k. It's kine. Yeah.
At around the one hour forty five minute mark, BC

(01:40:55):
said Ronda fout Holly in December twenty fifteen, So it
actually took place in November of that year. Keep up
the good work, fellas. I did look it up. It
was November fourteenth. I would have bet all my money
that it was December of twenty fifteen, but that was
Connor versus Aldo. It was the pay per view after
so I was wrong UFC one ninety five, Wideman rock

(01:41:18):
Hold and the colemane Very. I mean that stretch of
Mma was just magic, right. Those are dead wrongs. They're
very pedantic, but you know, somebody's got to be the
ombudsman in this place. It's time though, for our second segment,
where we give the people an opportunity to send in
pictures of their wives wearing our clothing or maybe even

(01:41:39):
artwork that we can put on our fridge. This is
called fan submissions.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
You've got mail fures.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Our first male viewer comes to us from Mount Unike,
Nova Scotia. It is former DONC of the Year, CODONK
of the Year. Excuse me Jay Piquette, who says, uh,
good day, lou Bclil, Mikey and all of DONC nation.
Last week, don the Boss Lady and I welcomed a
very special friend, my non related brother, Chef Mark Piquette,

(01:42:10):
flew down from Ontario to visit us at Mount Unike.
We toured our great province of Nova Scotia with tons
of amazing food and drinks. Luckily, our merch three point
zero arrived in time and we've included some pictures. Much
love to all you out there. Hugs and kisses to
my beloved codonk of twenty twenty two, Speaking of can

(01:42:31):
we get an appy wellness check? Shout out to Don
the Boss Lady and Jay Piquette. Luke, what do you
make of Ja Piquette connecting with fellow MK fan Mark
Piquette unrelated and then flying to visit each other in
like an MK family sausage party, and then Chef Mark
Piquette is actually making the sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
I like how they I feel like we should have
been invited to this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yeah it looks fantastic. Yeah, I don't think we of
the travel budget.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Oh is that a lobster? Is that a lobster dog
with like rimold sauce? And then Pepper's on top, because.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Yeah, Jeff Mark's legit, I've seen his on That looks unbelievable.
We should have Chef Mark and Chef Kaz have like
a bare knuckle fight for MK for Factory Town promotions.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
What do you think? Yeah? And then the loser BC
gets to bang their wife.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Shout out to the cats, Hope you guys are doing
well up there, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
I know that food looked amazing. Now I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Yeah, that was good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Their second fan sub comes from John. He leaves no information.
Let's see what he's got. Holy what what fuck are
you shitting me?

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I mean, I'm a simple man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
I'm a simple It is a big booty Latina and
Luke is fired up. Our next one comes from my
favorite Hawaiian Telligence.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Straight guys who don't like that are there?

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
I mean, you know, shout out to the Russian ladies. Right, Look,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Right I do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
By the way, I cannot tell you did you get
a lot of d ms when you were like, oh,
the Irish are better looking than the Brazilians. Did you
get a lot of m Russian? I said, Russian or
whatever it was the whites. No.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
I did not get a single DM about that, or
maybe I missed it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
I got I won't say a dozen, but at least
seven or eight, and they were all like, dude, what
the fuck is wrong with BC?

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
And I'm like, Poland is underrated too.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Look, I just want you to know that I'm not
saying Poland is trash. That's not what I'm saying. But brother,
they're not They're not going to touch Brazil Like, it's
just not a thing. That's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
This one's from my favorite Hawaiian televin Big Papa Key Papa,
who says the looha dogs Telvin here, I just want
to congratulate BC on becoming the prop quiz champion.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
Yeah, and made a meme.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Yeah, thank you, that made a meme that best describes
your victory versus who you all the time? All jokes aside, BC,
you are the man representing us factory tone workers everywhere.
Keep up the good work, guys. Aloha. So luke BC
on pop quiz prop quiz? Excuse me? Is mark On?
What is he winning?

Speaker 7 (01:45:10):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Is that the pride chack?

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Maybe like a K one trophy?

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Yeah? Sure, and then that's mark On at the bottom
with me regularly. Okay, that's that's that's pretty dark right there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
But I was gonna say, I was like, what the
hell is happening in the rest of the.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Time, But I get Kelvin Telvin, excuse me not. Kelvin
Gaslam is my favorite factory worker in the world right now,
so shout out to him. He gets out at three am.
He must be lonely. Our next one comes from King
Kim Bong Eel excuse me, and he's got a BC
special let's see it. Sure another kidney has failed the body.

(01:45:42):
I think he means liver. You only get one of
those livers, though, Luke, you know you gotta be good
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
That picture from the early days of MK, back when
we were filled with hope and joy, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Yes, and we were much more bloated back then.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Yes, the hair was a little naturally darker, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Yeah, and the pandemic we got fat, right, wow, super fat.
Our last fans of of the week comes from Jonas.
Let's see it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
I feel so swinish. What American right now? Spoon feed
me some ultra processed bacon, and let's bake a baby cake, lady,
because two thousand and one is going to be our year.
I don't understand what the fuck this is other than
it's vague me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
So it's you vaping looking out at the Twin Towers
in two thousand and one, saying that this is going
to be your year. Is there like another video that
we can't show attached to that long?

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
This is all I got for it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
It might be a reference to something that we just
don't know, but is this some like the fountain Head
reference or remix or something. I'm not sure what this is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
We did have to with the censor said no to
multiple videos of AI that showed you and the cake
lady sitting there on the honeymoon on the plane with
the towers the window, and then BC drive in the play.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
I mean that's just like, yeah, that's not a thing
we can show, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Mean, plus, you know it was like like can jet
fuel ben steel beams? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
To be fair, look you know what I mean, you'd
be the expert to consult on this for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Yeah. Yeah, those were fan submissions. Thank you for playing
Morning Combat at gmail dot com for you, and a
reminder that this here episode of Morning Combat. It was
brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours, LT.
Thank you for playing today. It was fun. We did

(01:47:36):
what we could with the news available. It's going to
heat up, uh you know pretty soon, right, We're gonna
be getting some UFC three twenty one around the corner.
What's next week's UFC card? Is that going to be good?

Speaker 7 (01:47:46):
Er?

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Bet? It's the fight? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Okay, that's a good card outside of the main event. Switch.
It's a good card for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Jack Majory is going to be there, which means get
get the block button going, roaring that sucker up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
It'll be on mon Al Faroll against Jasmine Jazz Divisius.
I'm into that fight for sure, no doubt. Luke Thomas,
will you be providing streaming entertainment for UFC HEO this weekend?

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
I have to work every single day last week and
my family had a bad weekend as a consequence. So
I'm gonna I might do some post fight stuff on Sunday,
but no live watch along this one, all right. I
have to be a dad.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
I can't do it all the time long island, nosda?
Can we expect the main card minute? Which I hear?

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
No, he did not tell her he's done. Hey girlfriend,
Hey go go find someone else to keep you warm
in the car.

Speaker 6 (01:48:35):
But uh yeah, full card watch along tomorrow guys four pm.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Start join me then. Also prop quis.

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Chuck Mindenhall, Aaron Brown said, are dropping in roughly forty minutes,
So wow, you think.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Ab can do this?

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Elt They're both pretty good. They're both pretty good. I
would imagine, you know, we'll have to. I guess, you know,
partly it's a little bit of luck, a little bit
of luck.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Well, ab used to do those trivia videos on Instagram,
like he knows that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
It's a good point. Yeah, I'll be curious to see.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
I mean, even though he was an athlete in high school. Look,
you gotta give him that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
It's like, bro, if you went to my high school,
that would not have been a thing. Aosta baby, all right,
national champion six times.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
What was the name of your other high school?

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Marietta High School. I went to Valdosta High School and
then Marietta High School. Changing high schools in the middle
of high school is really fun. I recommend it totally.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Yeah, it's great for your social life.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Yeah, I mean it's really amazing. I'm really glad my
mom put me through that. Very fun.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
But your debate club and ma athlete skills are probably
still talked about it at the at Marriette High right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Mean I didn't do debate at Marianna, only at Valdosta.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Oh all right, all right, Well it was great talking
to you. Thank you to the listeners and viewers. You
can follow us right here. Check out our extended universe.
Luke Thomas gets political? Is am I wrong? Is this
thing picking up steam? Look?

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
I don't really know what I'm doing, so I don't
know how to answer that, but I do get a
lot of emails. People seem to be responding to it.
It's kind of funny. You know what's amazing because my
family watches none of this, the thing that I've invested
twenty years in, and they watch, which I gotta have
to tell you, is an enormous surprise to me. As
you might imagine in Pride. They they send me feedback

(01:50:17):
on my political stuff, and I'm like, I don't even
know what I'm doing with this.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Wait you good feedback?

Speaker 7 (01:50:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Are they like good take? Or that was a strong?

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Mostly? Mostly?

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Do you think that your dad would be interested in
you and Ben Shapiro going on?

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
I don't think my dad has any idea who Ben
Shapiro is. All right, all right, But if you said
George Will or something, he might care about that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Yeah. I read Men at Work when I was a
kid by George Will. It was a big baseball book.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
You know, he's he's he's one of those old baseball
types that treat the sport as like it's partly religious.
You know, yes, yes, and I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Yeah, back in high school he can throw that speedball
by Hey, how about morning Shop grab our merch. We
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(01:51:14):
and Donkula in time for Halloween. They won't be here,
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matches of colors. Thank you. We've got you know items
there that you can check out. Thank you, look like
dressed like Saoul and maybe be as cool as that guy.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, all right? You ever

(01:51:35):
feel like you want to end the show, You just
don't know how.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
It's not that hard, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Why don't you take it home? I gotta let Reggie out.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Why don't you all right for Long Island, Luke for
the staff here at the show, For Brian Campbell, I'm lt.
Thank you all so much for watching. We'll catch you
on Monday. Until that time, may all of your gains
be loyal

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