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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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(00:42):
your favorite show is back on October seventeenth of the
twenty five. So this is Morning Combat. It's UFC Vancouver Weekend.
Let's get ready. My name is Brian Campbell, Live and
direct from the Hartford, Connecticut suburbs. And next to me,
of course, is the reason you tuned in Washington, DC's finest.
A native of India. Yeah, that's a true fact. Hey,

(01:03):
it's Luke Thomas, Luke F. Thomas to be accurate, Government accurate. LT.
How are you A and B. It's fall, there's pumpkin coffee,
there's MMA this weekend. You fired up?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
You're ready. I gotta tell you. We're at the stage
of morning e byk rides with the Tukes, start to school.
Little nippy, little chilly out there. I have to wear
gloves for the first time today. I was like, yo,
it's cold.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But you say little nippy. You don't just mean the
moms in the in the dairy section at the grocery.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Store, right well, I do not mean what's your face
in Kingpin turning around with the bud lights from the freezer.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I remember that one too. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, it's a little more than that, but yeah, no,
I mean, you know, listen, I was having a conversation
with Long Island Luke. My sleep meds are not working.
They work, but they don't work ideally, so I'm waking
up at weird times. That's kind of missing on the
schedule a little bit. But I'm not complaining. Honest to God,
I feel fine. I really do good to go. And
to that point, this let this little Canadian cards pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's pretty good, So.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm pretty I'm pretty excited for that.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I thought it was gonna lose a lot of heart
when Fluffy Hernandez pulled out, and that's still not ideal.
But it looks like this is a strong fight night card.
I'm ready to go. I am fired up. Thank you
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Speaker 2 (03:34):
Card what's? Up?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
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comes down to the last, Question, Joe, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Let me let me just EXPLAIN. BC i cannot do
this show any. Longer it doesn't make any. SENSE i
don't know any. Answers, YEAH i basically basically you did.
Well you did, well KNOW i did quite. Poorly more
to the point spoiler, alert, Folks, well, no, no, no
you should still watch Because i'll put it this. Way
the way the winner wins is actually very, fun So

(04:08):
i'll put it that. Way BUT, bc, LITERALLY i think
there were maybe three questions during the course of that
WHERE i didn't even know two of the people WERE ufc,
Fighters and in one of the cases it was LIKE
i had to name two Of Ode osborne's. FIGHTS i
can't do. THAT i don't know the answers to these.
THINGS i don't know how you feel about.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
THIS i just want to, SAY, bc the category was
training With. Osborne it was, yes it was, yes it was.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
That this is why listen Prop quiz is a great.
Show BUT i Podcast brain FOR mebc has ruined. Me
it's ruined me because everyone's gonna feel it, differently but after,
it BECAUSE i, did you, KNOW i did like the
my own show BEFORE i even DID, mk Where i'm
only focusing on main And comaine fights so often that

(04:59):
everything else just becomes. Background, noise and a big part
of that background noise is now like central to doing
well on prop, quiz AND i. CAN'T i can't with.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
You i'm not a deep deep deep undercard, guy or
at least PREVIOUSLY i will be now in the PARAMOUNT ufc.
Era but that Is Long Island luke's. Specialty and there's
a lot Of Stephanie egger, answers it, seems Or eggers
OR i HEAR i see a lot of those names
repeating on there Where i'm, like, damn but, HEY A
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Speaker 2 (05:28):
This how about This Long Island luke correct me If i'm.
Wrong the winner ends up getting second most points total correct,
Correct so they didn't Beat, abron but a noteworthy performance
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Speaker 1 (05:42):
Same, well whoever, wins it's a big win For, Columbia
i'm SURE lt.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
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Speaker 1 (05:48):
Thank you very much hello To Long Island luke and
his main card minute as. WELL. Lt i'll be Also
saturday night tomorrow night In brooklyn on the call For
Danny Night. Farewell, yes, yes thank you very. Much you
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Speaker 2 (06:27):
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CHARGING i believe it's thirty nine ninety.

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Nine you, KNOW i WISH i wish the show. Luck
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center you, know very good, memory with the exception Of
Jermaine derandimi Versus Holly, holm which was not a great.
Memory that was a bad.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Memory we try to shove that memory back where it
belongs in the. Bin, yeah there you. Go all. Right
Uh so that's about all Unless, luke you you have
any updates of E Biking. Fame.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
No the thing, Is i've got kids parties LIKE i
do every. WEEKEND i have to. To but BC dc
is gonna have as many plays as, well this big
ass protest And i'm just wondering how much it's gonna
fuck up my ability to get my kids at parties on?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Time is this a No kings? Protest or is this
more Like jan six?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Related you know, What it's always it's always a toss
up when when when The donald is? Here SO i don't,
Know we're guess see how that. Goes BUT i think
the city is gonna be a fucking. Nightmare so we'll
see how it.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Goes all, right it tends to, Be but don't. WORRY
i still come in and clean that ship, up.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Right, yeah you get they're still waiting for you to
return to the Local starbucks where you can regale them
with Your, hey everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Already then anything else we have to? Plug?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Nah, now let's do it all, right.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Let's hit the. Show let's hit it with topic number. One,
hey IT'S Ufc Fight, Night vancouver time This. Saturday and
even Though Anthony Fluffy hernandez was forced to pull out
with an undisclosed, INJURY i want to say maybe Robbing
renier De ritter of what this fight is supposed to
be and all audition for a middleweight championship, shot BUT

(08:03):
rd are still in contention. Here despite Naserdine imovov's impressive
victory Over Kyo, bohalio and of COURSE urdr will welcome
the replacement Of Brendan. Allen this is the fifth FIGHT
i believe in THE ufc in less than eleven months FOR,
rdr and it could be his final one before potentially
earning that. Shot Who we're going to see who's going

(08:25):
to get the first shot at new middleweight Champion Hamza. Chemaiev,
now oddsmakers HAVE rdr as a clear favorite in this
five round main. Event, luke why is The dutch knight
expected to? Win and what Does Brendan allen offer that
could potentially force the upset here as he's almost being
overlooked in this matchup because of the late change.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Now very Quickly Long, Island, luke what are our DraftKings
odds as it stands right, now BECAUSE i know the
line has been.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Moving it's minus one ninety EIGHT rdr plus one sixty
Four Brendan.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Allen, okay so you, know not a, huge huge favorite FOR,
rdrbc but let's say a relatively clear. ONE i think
the answers are pretty, obvious, However i'm gonna give. Them,
HOWEVER i will say, THIS i this fight will be.
Fun this fight will be, fun AND i think at
least Early Brendan allen is going to be very. Competitive,

(09:19):
Also Brendan allen has some pretty unique experience THAT i
think we should talk. About BUT, bc to answer the,
QUESTION rdr is on a hot. Streak he's not the
only fighter on this card who's competing for the fourth
time this, year but he is the only one in
the main event that is doing it this. Way and of,
course as you, indicated he was expected to Fight Anthony.
Hernandez he fell out and so as a, consequence he's
taking an opponent on late minute. Notice so you have

(09:40):
a guy on a hot streak who has three wins
so far this, year and he's taking on someone else
who's filling in on short. Notice and that person filling
on short notice has at times kind of faded down the. STRETCH.
Bc a guy who's actually pretty well, rounded particularly in
the grappling, department but has this seeming inability to maintain
the attack during the course of the. Bout they're these

(10:02):
very big swings in momentum with. Him that's part of.
IT i think that's basically the. Answer BUT, bc What
it really comes down to is you would Imagine Brendan
allen's gonna want to probably keep this. UH i suspect
he's gonna want to get on top on the. Ground
you might say he's gonna want to keep it on the,
feet BUT i. DON'T i don't know about, that. RIGHT
i think that part's a little bit harder to. SAY

(10:22):
a guy Like Brendan allen likes to come. FORWARD rdr
has those intercepting, knees he's. RANGIER i do think he's
gonna be slower of the, two AND i do think
he might get hit with some big. Bombs in, FACT,
bc if you go To Brendan allen's, fight for example
Against Paul, Craig Paul craig got drilled in the second
round kind of just trying to lean away from a
big overhand, right AND i think that might get him into. Trouble,

(10:44):
nevertheless IF rdr has proven, anything it's. Durability he'll clinch,
up he will pull guard and on the. Ground Brendan
allen actually does have pretty good ground and pound from.
Guard but the only real guard players he's ever won
against were Again Paul, craig and you, know, well you could,
SAY I mavov a little, BIT i, suppose but not.
REALLY rdr is like the most unique. THREAT i think

(11:06):
between standing and guard playing together as like a sort
of combined. Threat and to, me that's just a lot
of ways in which this fight could get away From
Brendan allen where he's got a particular set of, strengths
but these noteworthy, weaknesses you would THINK rdr has a
very acute ability to take advantage of, it whether it's

(11:27):
on the feet or the. Ground and again the fact
that he has good. Durability it is five rounds coming
in on short. Notice there's just a lot of reasons
to think that this is PROBABLY bc rdr's fight to.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Lose, yeah, no no doubt about. It And i'm interested
to see the demeanor here Of Brendan allen you mentioned
in the, past maybe getting tired OR I i don't
want to throw him into you, know first team all
donk mode or say he's mistake prone or anything of.
That but you, know it feels like there were times
That Brendan allen could break through or should break through
and has. It particularly the tail end of that seven

(12:02):
fight win, streak which was very, strong included five submission,
wins and of course took him into that big rematch
Against Anthony Fluffy hernandez where he didn't overly impress right
head back to back decision losses both To fluffy and
Nacardinium avov to sort of slow his. Momentum but to
give him, credit he did bounce back this summer to
get A fight of The night victory Over Marvin. Vittori

(12:23):
but it's almost as If Brendan, allen despite the odds
being close as we, mentioned is being looked at as
a second. Rate, afterthought this was supposed to Be. Fluffy
oh But fluffy Beat. Allen this is a. Replacement maybe
it takes down a peg the meaning of this fight
or how big the opportunity is FOR. RDR i wonder
though a little bit similar to something we're gonna talk

(12:45):
about next week in the bill TO ufc three twenty
one and the spot That Cyril gon sits in entering
a fight Against tom aspinall where we're just, like, oh,
yeah automatically, Right tom's gonna go in there and do
what the other guys have done to. HIM i wonder
if this brings the opportunity For Brenda allen to, overachieve
to not have that same level of pressure he had
when he was riding a seven fight win, streak and

(13:06):
to be a little bit under the radar and a
little bit dangerous Because, luke here's the weird. Part for
as red hot AS rdr is and how much he
has escalated his. Reputation, remember comes to THE ufc kind
of out of nowhere from one, championship breaking the contractor
however it, happened where we're, Like, okay let's see what
this guy in his mid thirties can. Do doesn't look

(13:27):
like a killer AGAINST jm, three but then gets on
that quick run you, Know kevin Holland Bo, nickel and
suddenly we're going split decision win Over Robert, whittaker where
rightfully we're all, talking, yeah this guy's on the verge
of legitimate title, contention but when you really match him
up skill for, SKILL i kind of believe that this
is a, sneakier closer fight than at least the general

(13:49):
reaction is. Too when they found out That allen is
popping in as the, replacement it kind of feels like
this is a huge opportunity For Brendan allen to upset
the Apple cart with a almost no pressure here and
slide in and do something big for his. Career he
comes in as the ninth rank. Middleweight of course you
got R dr at number four and could be looking
at a title shot with a big. Performance, So Luke,

(14:12):
thomas how big does that performance if it goes Our DR's?
Way AND i know we're gonna break down this fight
even more and get into. It but straight up, here
how much does the swapping out From fluffy To Brendan allen?
Affect how dominant or how spectacular do you think OUR
dr would need to be to one up what Nasdem
imovov already.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
DID i don't think it has to be too. Much
imovov did not perform, poorly but it was not, Overwhelming
AND i don't know that given the way in which he's,
situated not so much in the. Division BUT i think
in the UFC's mind based on what we can tell about,
Them and again we're making some, inferences we're not mind.
Readers it would seem to me that even as you

(14:55):
indicated with the loss Of fluffy Her nandez you sub
In Brendan, allen does he still have same opportunity to?
Advance AND i would submit to you that he probably
does unless he goes in there and really gets like ekes.
Out if it's similar to The whittaker, fight WHICH i
just cannot imagine that it would. Be but if it's
similar to The whittaker, fight where it's like it's really
kind of fight that kind of you, know slows down

(15:18):
as it goes, longer it it's you, know there's a
split decision, potentially let's say something like. That you, know
now we're dealing with something very. Different now we're, like,
well who's really got a? Mandate maybe the guy From.
France we should just probably give it to, right something
along those. Lines BUT i just feel like with the
kind of like do you can build Moment it's hard

(15:38):
to build momentum in certain WAYS. Bc, however if you
can do, it you can do it, fast you know
WHAT i. Mean like it's very difficult to get that thing.
Going but for the ones who do, it you can
see in a calendar year you can put together essentially
a top of shot campaign from beginning to end almost
and that's what you have AN. Rdr and SO i
just feel like that hot streak iswing him where if

(16:00):
he gets a clear decision, finish certainly a stoppage. VICTORY
i would imagine he's gonna be the guy to get.
It and by the, way and not for. Nothing, AGAIN
i don't know how this is. Good there's a lot
of questions about how, paramounts you, know turning pay per
views into poes is going to change the calculus of you,
know what kind of cars we get and who's on,
him blah blah. Blah but assuming it's like how it's.

(16:22):
Been the fact THAT rdr Speaks english, also it's not
like the most important. Thing but, again all these other,
factors plus if he gets a, stopage plus he's a
Native english, Speaker, YEAH i would imagine that they're going
to give favoritism to that. Guy.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah touching on WHAT i sort of said, earlier is
it fair when we're talking ABOUT? Rdr is he as
good as the four and oh run he's on in
the last eleven months since coming to THE, ufc WHICH i,
Mentioned remember the mere sharp, fight he did not look
like a. Killer he didn't move his heead he was
getting lit. Up BUT i, mean is it the momentum

(16:56):
that has him this dangerous at this moment or is
he just category for, category a better fighter Than Brendan
allen on paper as we enter.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
This, ooh BECAUSE i don't think we fully know who
De ritter is right now in this, mix right because
some of it has been like not.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Luck i'm not saying it's, luck but some of it
has been awkwardness, momentum like he's just kind of been
in the right place at the right. Time and you,
look you don't Beat Robert whitaker unless you're. Legit that's
that's for. Real BUT i just kind of wonder if
we're Overlooking alan too.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
MUCH i GUESS i have a SLIGHTLY i THINK i,
agree but maybe in a backwards. WAY i feel like
at thirty five we actually know a fair amount About De.
Ridder It's Brendan allen at twenty nine THAT i have
a little more curiosity. About and you, know, listen he's
on a what a one fight win. Streak he lost
To imovov and he lost to who?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Lols did he lose To Fluffy Fluffy?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Fluffy, yes you know those are two of the top
guys in the. Division here's another top guy in this.
Division to the odds maker's point to things we been,
SAYING i do think this is Probably alreadyr's fight to. Lose,
however the curiosity factor here is on The allen side
because he's STILL i, MEAN i think he's in the
full weight of his athletic, prime BUT i think he's
still putting pieces of his game. Together and this is

(18:15):
really a pivotal stage where if he's going to make
big leaps forward and really synthesize all the parts of
his game into a, coordinated steady, ATTACK i think he
can do a. Lot Bc like if you just look
at parts of his game. Individually when he's on it looks.
Sharp the, bodylock takedowns look. Sharp the ground and pound looks,
sharp the, guard passing the, back taking the submissions from the.

(18:37):
Back on, occasion he can get, hit you, know being
a little too aggressive, standing but he can deal it
out as. Well there's lots alike about his, game but
he hasn't been able to really put it all together
against a super high quality. Opponent you kind of have
a guy like that in ALREADY, r who is a little,
lanky a little, unusual has strengths and dimensions of the
game like the guard that are not necessarily in modern

(18:59):
mma the most. Important but certainly if there's anything you
can say ABOUT. RDRs he's a creative winner and he
kind of finds ways to do it and that kind
of spirit of you, know hunting attacks like that seems
to have been up to date one Of Brendan allen's.
Problems but can he turn a corner bec this would
be this is let's say it out, loud if he BEATS,

(19:22):
rdr this is by far his best win on his.
Career and he's got some good names on, there but
this would be the best.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
One, yeah, no no question about. That and the end
of that win, streak that seven Fight WINSTREEK i mentioned
split decision went Over Chris, curtis submission wins Over Paul Craig,
Bruno Silva Andre. Mnie so he's beaten some some legit
guys along the, way but this would be. Huge but
the question of whether our dr actually is everything he's
looked like at least of late is an interesting one

(19:50):
and it's one That Brendan allen has been thinking about,
too so much so in going public with those. Thoughts
and we're gonna have to bring in our friends At
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(20:13):
Here's Brendan all on that media, day not so impressed
overall with everything that The Dutch knight has to.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
OFFER i, mean it doesn't impress. Me like Maybe i'm
part to, impress but there's not one fight or one
moment where you're, like, oh, man like this guy is
like crazy or he's something.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Special like when we, fight it's everything's gonna happen on my,
timeline not on your.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Timeline so WHEN i want to go to the, ground
they're gonna go to the ground because you, know he's
probably gonna shoot the First they could be the first ten,
seconds it could be in the first, minute.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
But before two and a half minutes in the first,
round he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
SHOOT i promise you he's gonna. Shoot to answer your, question.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
YES i definitely think everyone's building this hype and this
false sense of he's something that he.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Isn't he isn't this.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Guy he's not that guy like he's he hasn't had
a guy put it on him for really and him
have to take it With. Sandy he's just not that.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Guy he's not that.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Guy he's not built like.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Me like he's not. Built he's not. Built we're not
built the.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
Same.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Look he's not that. Guy he's not that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Guy you're not that. Guy. PAL i think he might.
BE i think he might. Be but Certainly brendan al
has engaged in trash talk THAT i think at times
has blown up in his. Face this could be another
example of. THAT i just feel, like, again this looks
to me like rdr's fight to. Lose but a truly

(21:38):
for the career Of Brendan, allen a historic. Opportunity, yes very.

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(22:03):
Minden hall and hopefully hopefully some more of That Devil's
Reserve Long Island. Loop do we have? That do we have?
That tell me we?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Do that's A korean censor. QUESTION i don't. Know, Yeah
north we have to ask The North korean censors if
they procured.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
More all, right thank you very. Much staying WITH, urdr
here is he on? Weight he is a big. Dude
he is a big middleweight who's fought at light heavyweight
and heavyweight under the one championship. FLAG i. Believe do
we have footageair of him standing on a scale days
out from the? Fight? Here what are we looking?

Speaker 8 (22:33):
At?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Loup, yeah kilos one hundred kilos and he's, Like i'm on,
weight and it's like this this was a couple of days,
ago or maybe three days. Ago at this point he's,
Like i'm on weight And i'm like two hundred and
twenty pounds give or take. Right that's sort of where
he's at for Five and by the, way, understand, bro
this is the fourth time he's cut weight this. Year

(22:55):
he has fought at light. Heavyweight he's actually fought higher
than light heavyweight when he was Fighting Anatolin allekan in.
One this is the fourth time he's cutting, weight and
he's cutting weight from two. Twenty, yeah that's a lot
on a person's body at age thirty. Five something to
keep in.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
MIND i, mean like we, said if he wins, this
that would be five and oho to start HIS ufc,
career all within eleven. Months that's. Insane and it's not
only insane to turn your you, know to make a
name for, yourself turn your reputation. Around it's insane on
your body to go through. That so we'll see as
we Have Long Island luke watching the scales closely there In.

(23:33):
Vancouver it's what. HAPPENS i Believe Shaq, Majori vancouver native
resident excuse, me is also covering it this week FOR
Cbs Sports. Luke so you'll be getting texts. Often, AWESOME
i blocked his.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Number we're.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Good, yeah good stuff right. There speaking OF rdr and
his exit From One championship which allowed, this he had
a few things to say About chatre's promotion there during
during fight week Care let's, listen you know you're not the.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Indust, yourself and yet you seem to.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
You seem to have a lot left in to.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
TAKE i, mean what do you kind of can?

Speaker 10 (24:08):
Shoot what do you attribute your success at this point in.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
The Gameing White championship saved me my not giving me.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Fine so look is he's saying they kept him young
and spried by.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
By essentially freezing him for so long it kept his body,
fresh which but, honestly if you think about there's something
to be said for. That if he had been really
worn down from one, campaign would he have had the
energy and even the momentum or the, like just even
the mental space to be, Like, okay let's make a
huge push WITH ufc right. Now probably not. Right so you,

(24:43):
Know i'm not saying it's good he was iced by
one or whatever you want to say that they. DID
i guess WHAT i would say is this is what
it means to take something that didn't go well and
then kind of remix it into a, positive especially if
you can get a win On saturday with it and
get a title.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Show and back to What Brendan allen said about him
not being that. GUY i, mean if you watch the,
tape you can see the holes or the awkwardness or
the unusual nature of what our dr. Does but it's
the fact that he uses that awkwardness to his. Favor
he's like a pitcher who, throws you, know off speed,
junk but then can come back with the. Fastball he

(25:20):
fills in holes by being awkwardly. Aggressive he's he's just
something weird ABOUT i, Mean Robert whitaker had a lot
of trouble dealing with that weirdness right. There so it's
a it's just a funky different rhythm to his. GAME
i think he makes the most of not being known
as the striker by being an awkwardly dangerous striker at
times with the, knees with the will mix in some lead.

(25:42):
ELBOWS i, mean when you look back at That Meyer sharp,
fight how do you come to terms with why he
was so like off that?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
NIGHT i don't. Know it was a sloppy, mess was it?
Not it was he and did he's you, know he's
had some issues even in that fight with occur where
there are times whe're, like, dude he's about to get
bombed on crossing his feet up and turning you know
WHAT i? Mean off? Balance like can you know the best,
punchers the best strikers you've ever, seen are really well.

(26:10):
Balanced they can move around and they don't have To
they're still in a position to defend and throw, Right
they're still they keep their legs under. THEM rdr is
not that. Guy WHAT i, Mean you're not that. Guy
you're not that, guy, Pal but his footwork is, like
it's not the best part of his. Game it's not
the thing that he excels. At what he excels at
is he's got some good, striking to be, Clear and

(26:32):
again we saw what those intercepting needs to not just
Bon nickel by the, way those Affected Robert whittaker, too
like they are universally good and he's got some long
range shots as. Well but BUT bc to a risk
taking kind of puncher That Brendan allen, is that is
a potential vulnerability to take, seriously you know.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
No doubt about. That SO rdr of course known for
that incredible submission, game the jiu jitsu and. All Yet
Brendan allen does have fourteen wins by submission of the
twenty five in his pro. Career, luke how do we
see the wrestling anti, wrestling the, Grappling how does that match?
Up will we see a lot of this fight contested

(27:17):
on the? Ground how do you sort of see these
two skill?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
SETS i JUST i would be very surprised if it
didn't end up there at some, point in part Because
Brendan allen has strengths. THERE rdr has strengths. There you would, imagine,
okay that might cancel it out and it. Could let's
be clear about. That it absolutely. Could, However Brendan, allen to,
ME i think one of the things that's kind of
tripped him up a little bit is he doesn't necessarily
always have the discipline to fight on the terms that

(27:42):
are most advantageous for. Him he sometimes just kind of
resorts to what FEELS i think more natural to. Him
and that's understandable that that is a choice that a
lot of even very good fighters. Making to be, clear
he is, one BUT i think to really excel sometimes
you have to have a very disciplined approach to your.
Attack and bc the fact he's also coming in on late,

(28:04):
notice to what extent might he just you, know sprint
at the beginning of the fight because that's all that's
all that he. Has he has two and a half
rounds in, him and then after that the whole thing falls.
Apart so like that to me just kind of facilitates
him wanting to take the fight to the, ground maybe
to prove a, point BECAUSE i do think that stuff
kind of matters to. Him, again he does have good
ground and, pound and he's got good. Submissions he might

(28:26):
think he can wear him out from there and maintain
whatever energy he. Has so you, know if the fight
ends up being fully on the, feet that would not
be some kind of. SHOCK i think it'd be more
a shock though if they never went to the. GROUND
i think that some inevitability to me is that it
will lead.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
There, YEAH i feel like that is an accurate statement
for the. Record Brendan allen has gone to the five
round distance three times on the regional level BEFORE, ufc
and he lost two of, those both by, decision one
To fluffy her And ands in their first meeting and
one To Eric. Anders and in THE, ufc he's on
five rounds just, once but it was a twenty twenty
four split decision win Over Chris curtis in their. Rematch,

(29:07):
now rdr's history just two, defeats both by, stoppage but
they did come against heavyweight crusher and A Tootally mallekin
multi divisional champion. There and on the flip, Side Brendan
allen has been stopped three, times two by strikes in
THE ufc To Chris curtis And Sean strickland won by
submission on the regional level To Trevin. Giles so we'll

(29:28):
see how that plays into. Here as we close in
on pick time here Along, Island, luke where are you
leaning from a betting strategy on how you're gonna handicap?
This it is hard to take full confidence In Brendan
allen doing something in a key spot we haven't seen,
before but you are getting plus money on. Them.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
YEAH i stayed away from most money lines on this.
Card i'm not gonna. LIE i have the over one
and a half in a. PARLAY i do think it
goes a little. LONG i don't know if it goes
all five, rounds BUT i think it goes at least.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Three.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Uh my prediction would be LIKE rdr late OR rdr by.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Decision, yeah that sounds right to.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Me LT i got to RIDE rdr. HERE i can
see the picture here For Brendan allen to surprise some.
PEOPLE i LOVE rdr all the way back to, one
BUT i don't even think he's necessarily as good as
his hot. Streak as much AS i want to see
him get that shot at the, title BUT i think
when it comes down to, it those knees wearing down his.
OPPONENT i could see a fourth round submission win here FOR.

(30:28):
RDR i can really see. It, Yeah i'm locked in on.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That he to, me is more proven against elite. Competition,
hello he's riding a win over Fucking Robert whitaker heading
into this, Fight, like you, know he's just proven more
at at a higher. Level and, Again Brendan allen has
flashes where he looks real. Good but it's kind of
like The morober. Rule i'm not picking Against morob UNTIL
i see somebody beat, him you, know, like until, Then
i'm just he's like the default. Guy And i'm not

(30:52):
saying THAT rdr has that kind of a hold in the.
Division but What i'm saying, is given the, matchup you,
Know i'll Believe alan can beat him WHEN i see.
It you, KNOW i think he, can AND i wouldn't.
Stop i'm not saying it's, impossible but that's not my.
Pick my pick is already. ARE i think he gets it,
done probably via, stoppage probably, late but either, WAY i
suspect his hand will be.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Raised will he get the nod Against Shamaiah that is the.
Question BUT jamaiav isn't talking so much about making that
first title defense, lately whether it's going to be Against,
imavov whether it's gonna be AGAINST, Rdr if he. Wins On,
saturday he's talking still about wanting to go up to
two oh five and take On Alex. Pereira we've got
sound From Brendan allen reacting to.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
That what do you think Of hamzak calling Out Alex
pereira and wanting to move up to two o five
before he even has a title.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
DEFENSE i think that's kind of like the story of, chamaiov,
Right like he just talks a. Lot he gets a
lot of eyes like not it's not to the, degree
but it's Like connor, talking, talking talking just to stay relative,
obviously Like tremaiav's not that, bad, right he doesn't say
that much stuff and that much reckless. Stuff but, YEAH

(31:59):
i don't. KNOW i think he's got a lot of
work to do in our division, First and it's not
like he's a huge eighty. Five that's cutting a lot
Like alex was to get to eighty five to where it's,
like all, RIGHT i became a, CHAMPION i defended ones
like let's just go up or. Whatever so, yeah it's,
weird BUT i think HE i don't think that's in
his future right.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now you, Know, LUKE i would have to agree With
Brendan allen there on the last point from the standpoint
Of chamaiah has not defended the title. Yet pereira's got
to recover from the broken. Foot there's already talk about
him And John jones at The White house as much
As tamiah Versus pereira at two a five would just
be a monstrosity of a fight and would get. Us

(32:41):
it would get us, it it would get us, itching
it would Get remember WHEN i had That remember WHEN
i had that rash right there In florida that time
at That Jake paul. Fight remember that thing that was
climbing up he was trying to.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
RIGHT i DON'T i GUESS i don't remember. This you
had a rash of The Jake paul.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Fight, YEAH i remember during the, doncumentary the one Where
shop showed up to It Miami Logan paul Versus.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Floyd, vaguely, vaguely you should go.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Back and watch our greatest hits right. THERE i don't
even know how we got into this. CONVERSATION i would
love me Sim tremaia Versus. PRAYER i agree it's not gonna.
Happen but whether or not our dr can get the,
nod we have a final piece of sound from, deritter
of whether he's confident that'll.

Speaker 11 (33:20):
Win we'll get him there AS i have today he
called Out Alex. Prayer did you see? This he, SAID
i want to go up to light have?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Youweight what do?

Speaker 11 (33:26):
You what do you make of? This when there's clearly
such big fights happening right now and he hasn't even
defended the spell?

Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yet oh, well to be, honest the first THING i thought,
was as, well this.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Is, bullshit but it is a cool, matchup.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
Huh it is a cool match up to see howms,
out see if he can get him down and stay.
Safe BUT i don't see it. Happening but, YEAH i get.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
IT i get.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
It you always want to proceed the next big, thing
but everyone's chasing someone else's, dream, right and you need
the other person to help you get.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
There, yeah exactly, Sure but.

Speaker 11 (33:56):
You're hoping he sticks at ONE a five like it
doesn't really seem like YOU fc is maybe gonna seriously consider,
this wants to go to Have you eight, apparently.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
So everybody's moving up. Here, NAH i don't. KNOW i
don't think that's gonna.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
HAPPEN i imagine IF i do well this, Weekend i'm able
to Put brendan. Away i'll be fighting for a belt
early twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Six that's interesting Because imovov at home In paris did
make a strong statement no finish Against, bohalio but it
was a strong ass statement and he's ON i would,
say a better win streak of quality of names than
the one THAT rdr is. On but then, AGAIN rdr
is doing things that the company. Loves fights on short,
notice quick, turnarounds take whoever's next in. Line so it's

(34:41):
gonna be. Interesting, look it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Interesting this is WHAT i mean is this can all
be put to bed IF rdr goes in there and smashes,
him or, conversely, conversely If Brendan allen goes in there
and smashes. Him you get some pretty important clarity at that.
Point BUT i just feel like THE ufc is kind of, Like, Okay,
vernier this is finish the, job you know WHAT i,

(35:04):
mean and he has to do. It but it's that's
the way everything, feels.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Indeed right. There all, right let's hit into topic number,
two which is the rest of THE Ufc vancouver card
and of this breakdown of THE Ufc vancouver, card it's
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Ufc get unlimited data that won't slow you. Down there's
nothing slowing Down Kevin holland from his goal of being
the next Cowboy, seronian fighting almost as many times as

(35:31):
ourdr has of. Late he'll be in The colemine event
Against Mike. Malott your current odds in this Matchup Kevin
holland minus won, Ten Mike malot minus won. TEN a
virtual pick them at, Welcherweight, luke we know the. Story
If Kevin holland has dialed, in if his back's against the,
wall he fights one. Way if they call him to

(35:54):
fight somebody at one eighty five on two, weeks notice
he seems to fight another. Way is there any chance
he loses this? Matchup if he comes in with the
former mentality that maybe it's time to book some wins
and make some noise in this.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
DIVISION i he really shouldn't lose this. Fight he really
shouldn't lose this. Fight if you look at the fights
That NEIL magni see what AM i, Saying Neil, Magnet
if you look at the fights That Kevin holland has LOST,
bc he made an interesting point With Mike bond this
week talking about. Them but you, know for, example the
last before the last, one the two before that Were

(36:30):
Renard rader eighty, Five rumin DEALEDS a eighty five he
lost TO mvp eighty, Five Jack Dala matalana eighty, five
he lost her Wonder. Boy but now we're back in
twenty twenty. Two and Then, hamzat which you, know, okay
Is homzad who's now the middleweight. Champion the vast majority
of those guys are. Middleweight the last one of those
is d ROD. Bc what's kind of interesting Is Kevin

(36:51):
holland Told Mike bond he has two regrets over the
losses that he. Has one was To Daniel. RODRIGUEZ i
think the other one was To Derek, brunson and he
was again by the, way Inventory Derek, brunson these are
all eighty five. Ers at, seventy he's kind of a different.
Fighter but the last, one of course was at seventy
and he still lost it, Anyway so you feel Like
Mike mallott might be able to get it. Done but
the thing about it With Kevin holland IS i do

(37:13):
think on some level he does try to compete to,
win it goes out the window in certain. Contexts but
against The Mike mallots of the, WORLD i tend to
think he'll get a little bit more of. It he punches,
hard he typically has good punch, Resistance he's, lengthy highly,
experienced dual. Threat he can sub and he can strike it.
Out malt is kind of, game but, we as you

(37:35):
saw Against Neil, magne can fall. Apart for a guy
Like holland who's experienced against upper like the next weight class,
guys and is durable and is a dual, threat he
really shouldn't lose this. One this would be the kind of,
mean this might be the worst loss of his or
not won't say, mma but this might. Be this would

(37:56):
easily be the worst loss of HIS ufc. Career be see, yeah,
Yeah I'M i, Mean i'm trying to look at, Yes Thiago,
Santos Brendan, Allen Derek, Brunson Marvin, Vettori, Hamza schamaia have Wonder,
boy all the NAMES i, mentioned and then D Rod
is this better or worse than D? ROD i, mean
your mileage, mayvaria BUT i would think it's actually a
little bit. Worse so, dude this is you just you,
Know i'm now talking in. Circles i'll. Stop but this

(38:19):
is a fight That Kevin holland really cannot afford to.
Lose i'll.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Pay there's. That Kevin holland has fourteen career, losses but
he is willing to take chances and roll the dice
right there and in the thirty three Year Old malot
The pride Of, canada of course five and one in THE,
ufc you did mention the DISASTROUS tko loss To Neil.
Magni he has bounced back since with two fairly quality.
Wins he's, game he's, big he's, strong all of. That

(38:44):
this would be a huge opportunity for him On canadian
soil to be the guy, that like you, mentioned a
lot of us think is outright better than, him even
though the odds are a virtual pick. THEM i wonder
how much that has to do with that D rod.
Loss but to be, fair D rod's back was again
to the wall late in the. Thirties people were counting
him out and he came back with a very focused.

(39:05):
Performance but here Is Mike malot talking about preparing For Kevin,
holland which also means preparing for the distraction of his trash, talking, RIGHT.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
I haven't seen him this week. Yet the last, GUY i,
Thought Charles, radky talked a lot of trash, beforehand but
not so much when we got in. THERE i don't
know if he's really been if my punt's been talking
any trash so. FAR i assume when we're in. THERE
i assume we're in, there he'll be talking a lot
of trash and Kind we prepared for that with my training,
partners just talking trash all training, camp when we're, drilling

(39:37):
when we're, sparring having my mental coach cage side yelling
at me during sparring and fight simulations and. Stuff SO i,
feel you, know very well prepared and comfortable to deal
with with.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That you mentioned prepping For Kevin. Hollins talk with your training.
Partners did any of them get you to?

Speaker 10 (39:51):
Crack the times that got me to crack were when
other people didn't know that we were doing that and
they started, laughing like what the hell are you? Doing
like why are you calling him? That and like they're, like, oh,
no we're just we're doing this for my opponent's going
to talk trash and, they're, oh, yeah, definitely good. Call
he's definitely gonna do. That so those are the times
that it was, funny but otherwise, no like just stand focused.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Right, LOOK i guess you got to prepare for. EVERYTHING i,
mean before a big road, trip you often get copious
amounts of diarrhea during that week, before just to prepare
you for what it's going to be like on the
on the train and. Plane, yeah you, know.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Listen if there's anything The Newark Penn station has taught
me is go before you get, there.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know What i'm, saying or or while you're on
the way on the train three times with? Blood? Wow
how how much are we going to expose Of?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Luke right?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Here a Long Island? Luke i'm curious from the betting side,
HERE i think this Is hollin's fight to. Lose i'm
not a huge believer In Mike. Malot the odds makers aren't.
Sure are you sure when you make the bets on
the main card minute this?

Speaker 8 (40:51):
Week?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
NO i think you guys got to Give Mike mallott
a little more. CREDIT i, mean the only loss he's
had Is Neil magne and the use like that's not
a bad. LOSS i don't Know kevin.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
About that's so wishy.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Wash She also there's an argument to make, that depending
on How Mike mallott's career goes after this, fight there's
an argument to be make that the D rod loss
is worse than losing To Mike. Mallott you, Know Mike
malott could go on to have a great.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Career, yes that one is at least possible to. Consider,
YES i will back up a. Step Mike mallott's loss
To Neil magni was very. Bad that was a very bad, loss.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Sure but he also was like a minus five hundred
favorite going into. That he had a lot of hype
behind him going into. That maybe he just didn't live
up to the. EXPECTATIONS i don't. Know i'm not in
On Mike. MALLOTT i just feel like you guys need
to give him a little more credit. Here it is
a pick him for that. REASON i got My Mike.
LOTT i Got Kevin holland at plus one oh five
like two days, ago AND i was feeling way better
him as a. DOG i wouldn't really fuck with him

(41:47):
at minus money, here but, uh you, Know i'm riding
with him either. WAY i Think Kevin holland could get it,
done so he's got enough, weapons let's.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
GO i, Mean Mike maull had a lot of momentum
from three straight uh finishes in THE ufc before That
Neil magne fight to but to be, fair they were
Against mickey gall and two guys without A wikipedia. Page
so that was a wake up. Call but since then
decision went. Over Trevor giles knockout Of Charles. Radkey we're
gonna find out heads up here what this man. Has,
look you just tend to pick Against. Canadians that's just

(42:16):
what it, is you, KNOW i. Do i'm just Throwing
i'm just throwing something out.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
There When. St pierre, FOUGHT i was not picking against the.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Fairpoint all, right we'll see what you're gonna say About
Jasmine Jazz davisias. Soon but, uh fun, MATCHUP i would guess,
here but would look to. Close Can allot Handle holland's ground?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Game uh not if he's. Tired, yeah it's not good
enough to like where his like instinct and overall level
of ability to stay safe underneath will preserve. Him but
if he does it early and it's limited and he's
in control of it because he's setting the, terms he's
he'll Be, Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Holland has a way of getting those chokes. In you
know What i'm, saying.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Got a great, dars has arm. Bars He's Travis luter
black belt that they don't they don't hand those.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Out, No, No Travis ludor FORMER ufc title, challenger very
good black.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Belt by the, way people got a clown on the
whole situation because Of goldie's you, know calling On Michael
jordan of, grappling which you know he's, not but he's
very very. Good he was a very very good, grappler
and he had it fucked up his weightcut when he, thought,
dude that was the thing about. It that seriously And Anderson,
silva there were so many Times i'm, like, oh, well you, know,
Okay Travis luder is not better than, him but he's

(43:29):
got way better ground. Game he's gonna fuck him. Up
and then he takes him down And you're, like, oh,
well here we. Go he's gonna he's gonna crush. Him
and then he just collapses because he had such a
horrible weightcut that he couldn't do. It And i'm, like,
oh you, KNOW i just there was so Many Anderson
silva to, me was like you, know you knew he
was good when he came over From, pride BUT i
didn't think he would go on to do what he

(43:50):
did because there were so many times, Like, oh he's
gonna get tripped up by this. Guy, nope just kind
of kept doing.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
IT i, mean technically as he Is luter not a
title challenger because he blew weight for that.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Foight yes that's technically, correct but you know he, was
he was in a he was you, know he was
scheduled for a title. Fighter.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah shout out to him And Tallas latest for being
silver victims during that stretch. There, uh let's go down
the line here to the bandonmweight. Division Marlin cheato vera
loser of three of his last, four obviously against very elite,
competition but he sat out a while to refresh a
fourteen month. Layoff he will snap Entering saturday's matchup against

(44:29):
a surging I'm In, zahabi The, canadian The Ariel hawanee.
Impersonator when we look at the odds for, this vera
plus one, fourteen your slight underdog against the hobby minus
one thirty. Five speaking of that Burnout cheeto went, through
it wasn't just with, this Although i'm gonna guess maybe

(44:50):
it was that, too. Right shout out to that. Guy
Here's Cheato vera talking about what he went through to
refresh to get back to this.

Speaker 12 (44:57):
Point, OH i mean gotta be something definitely at a
skill and mental, level, Right if you're fell in, short
something is, wrong, Right and.

Speaker 13 (45:11):
You know it's so easy to just point. FINGERS i
could blame my, coaches my, friends my, FAMILY i can blame, editing,
Right but THEN i go, on just sometime it's just
take a seat and have an honest conversation with yourself
because we know inside what's going. On we know, exactly
we know everything that happened is just matter if we

(45:34):
want to talk.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Or not out loud about.

Speaker 13 (45:36):
It AND i really FEEL i was just burned.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Out look, Interesting Cheeto vera just thirty two yet with
three losses in his last. Four we're talking about what
does he have left? Here yet he's fighting a thirty
seven year Old inza hobby who's riding a six white win,
streak and we're figuring, out what do you actually have
on The Cheeto vera, side how much do you think

(46:00):
he has? Left and does that include getting back to
the elite.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Level, well as you, mentioned thirty two is a. Hobby thirty.
Seven it's kind of funny you kind of sort of
see the hobby as the, newer fresher, face which on
some level he, is because he has not been this
high in the rankings. Previously he's kind of slowly earned
it with this like WHATEVER i think he's on like
a six fight win streak something like that to put
himself in this. Place the answer that is only whether

(46:26):
or Not cheto has meaningfully worked on his. Skills that's.
It he had some to begin. With he's got pretty
Good Muay. Thai you, know he obviously is durable as, shit,
RIGHT i, mean he's got one of the best chins
at thirty Five i've ever, seen and he can do
something with. That but that's got a, limit and he
found that. Limit the wrestling wasn't there and fights like you,

(46:48):
Know Corey sandhagen for, example he got thumped a little
bit with punching power By Devison, figuredo which was kind of.
Surprising AND i, mean you can you, know could diagnose
the stuff that went wrong Against sean. O'Malley he was
just kind of running in and. Stuff the issues are.
Skills it's, skills that's skill, development and that's the most important.
Thing AND i think he's certainly come a long way

(47:08):
from even the guy who we saw at the beginning
of HIS ufc. Run he has, really you, know matured.
Significantly BUT bc you're, asking you, know can he go
even further after a little bit of time, Off the
answer is only if he worked on his. Skills this
division is too. Tough there are so many talented. Guys
it's not easy for. Anybody you, know, Well morob makes

(47:30):
it look kind of, easy but it's. Not AND i
feel like a broken record on this. Show guys, like
what's the right weight? Class did the time off? HELP
i don't, know did they fix their? Skills because if
they didn't do, that that's the most important.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
One And cheto dropped decisions over his last four fights
To Corey, Sandhagan sean O'Malley and their rematch for the,
championship And Davison. Figuedo AND i did See cheetoh this
week talking a lot about he feels he fought very
stupidly against O'Malley and the, rematch wasn't listening to his coaching,
staff was fighting an emotional style just trying to get.

(48:05):
O'Malley so we've seen that trap. Before cheato a very violent,
striker but it's gonna be about putting together the complete.
Game and you Mentioned morob the champion of this. Division
how About Cheeto vera being inspired By morob's recent run
and that has got him back up off the, couch
back in the, gym and back where he is right.
Now let's listen To.

Speaker 11 (48:26):
Marlin last, time you also Thought Morob Devell shuley wasn't
even the champion. Yet now he's like almost cleared out
the division on the verge of the most title defenses
we've ever. Seen what have you just made of his
run as champion and it seems, like you, know he's
going through all these, guys he's gonna need fresh people
to fight at some.

Speaker 13 (48:42):
Point he's, good, Man he's really, good and he fights
at a pays that he made you doubt yourself like
he have showed, that you, know the most skillfless, striker
not the most clean grup him because he's not tapping
everyone out like other people Collect demian back in the.

(49:04):
Day but he just put it together and that doesn't
matter how it looks when he gets it. Done so
it's amazing what he's. Doing and you, know that's one
of the persons that have like almost in a, Way
moti babed me, to you know, what let's get let's
get my shirt, together let me figure it. Out hard
to win this fights BECAUSE i can get there. Again

(49:26):
and it would have been good to have a fight
like that one, day because he's just a challenge that
brings up to the. Table it's like he's like the
Guy i'm, fighting he's coming off a goodest. Trick he
motivates me to, like, okay let's let's prove who's. Better
and that gets me out of the bed every.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Morning all, right look at, THIS i like That marab
being an inspiration to. Everyone, look let's talk About aman's a.
Hobby maybe it's a little bit deceiving to see that
age of thirty, seven he didn't really get going into
his career at full speed until. Recently of, course he's
a younger brother of for a, hobby the famous, Coach
so you know he grew up at the highest levels

(50:03):
OF mma WATCHING gsp do his, thing coming off a
victory over the Legend Jose. Aldo how good Is aimin's
a hobby in your.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
EYES i mean that win is pretty. CONTROVERSIAL i don't
recall that being the cleanest Win i've ever. Seen, however
the fact that he was even competitive in it was
also kind of. Surprising that was his featherweight, debut which
is also worth. NOTING i, mean, listen the record that

(50:34):
he has is, interesting. Right so he had two losses
back to back To Hikardo homotion And Vince. Morales this
was in twenty seventeen twenty, nineteen so we didn't fight at.
All in twenty. Eighteen he fought. Once in twenty, nineteen
he lost not at. All in twenty, twenty he fought.
Once in twenty twenty, one he won. Once in twenty twenty,
two he won against fighters with by the, way No wikipedia.

(50:54):
Entries then he Fought. Aori can't pronounce his, name it's
The chinese Donk aori Chilin. Quilan i'm gonna try to
tell you say. It that's in twenty twenty. Three he
fought one. Time then he fought two times in twenty twenty,
four and that's where he really rounded the. Corner he
Beats Pedro muno's And Javid. Basharat those are both pretty quality,

(51:14):
wins and then he has The josialdo one up a
weight class which was totally, surprising albeit somewhat. Controversial so
he is certainly, surging AND i do THINK bc he's
one of these. Guys he didn't fight a, bunch as
you clearly can, hear took a bunch of time. Off
it was kind of always in the, gym always in the,
gym always in the. GYM i don't really know if

(51:35):
his upside is good enough to Beat cheeto, all even
with all the questions that are surrounding. Him WHAT i
can say IS, bc while there is some weight class
movement as part of what he's been doing a little
bit more, recently even of course The rodriguez fight he
had was at one, forty WHAT i will say IS
i do think this is a guy who has worked
on his. Skills this is a guy who was, like

(51:56):
my focus is not going to be so much When
i'm fighting Who i'm fighting in a what weight, class
rather When i'm, ready WHEN i have something to, do
WHEN i feel LIKE i want to test myself based
on What i've been working. On and that makes him,
dangerous that makes him probably unassuming to a. DEGREE i don't.
AGAIN i think if it comes down to a battle of,

(52:18):
heart he can't Beat. Cheeto if it comes down to
a battle of, chin he can't Beat. Cheeto AND i
think if it comes down to a battle of, striking he.
Shouldn't BUT, bc this is a, dude as you, indicated you,
know surprisingly the thirty, seven but has just kind of
steadily swung the axe in such a way where If

(52:38):
cheeto really didn't get better after taking time off from the,
BURNOUT i think he could play spoiler. HERE i.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
DO i do believe, that or Maybe cheeto comes back
with A jorge mos vit all like, Resurgence, luca a violent.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Resurgence LONG i, look by the way telling you is
it's the guy's name WHO i cannot pronounce is And
i'm gonna probably botch it, here but get a little
closer or richi lang or chi leang something like.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
That that sounds, Right, chazon.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah Macy. Chiasen is that what it?

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Is?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
There it is H Cheeto vera comes in as the
number seventh ranked banhamweight in THE. Ufc number nine Is Aiman,
zahabby who believes this win could catapult him and to be,
fair he Beats Cheeto. Vera that's seven straight. Wins that's
a top ten. Victory we're talking title contention. Here let's

(53:29):
hear From zahabby about.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
This, YEAH i Think peterion deserves. IT i think he
proved himself to have the. Match AND i, think you,
know he was talking about something interesting that happened in
his the first Fight. Morab he couldn't throw right, hands
and then he, SAID i look at the. STATS i
barely use my right. Hand so maybe his hand was
broken going into the, fight or he had some kind
of injury in. There SO i would IF i Was morab's,

(53:53):
TEAM i wouldn't expect the fight to go the same
way he went the first time. Around AND i think
he's got a good chance, to you, know to put
on a great fight Against morab is definitely a. Puzzle
he's hard to, beat you, know but you see that
he does get stunned and he does get, hurt so
there's always a. Possibility AND i absolutely Love morab's humility

(54:15):
when he Beat Corey sanagan and he was in the
octagon and he was talking and you, know they're giving him,
compliments and he, said you know, WHAT i can lose
that any moment it can happen to. ME i can
get hit and go, down And i'm proud that the
bantamweight division has a champion like that that shows the.
Humility he reminds me Of George Saint pierre in that. Sense,
so you, know much respect to both, guys And i'm

(54:37):
excited to come up there and face. Them If morab
keeps clearing the guys ahead of, me there might be
a rub for you for a title fight Beating Marlon
vera in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Six who.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
KNOWS i will Say morab has cleaned out this division so.
Aggressively he's gonna Face piorrion for his fourth title defense
this calendar year On december. Sixth we all know next
Week's umar And Amagametov Mario bautista fight produces the next
title challenger after. That but if The hobby wins, this
he will potentially be Given morob's activity, level not that

(55:09):
far away from an opportunity considering this division has been cleaned.
Out the problem Is, LUKE i don't believe in his
skill set at this, level his, demeanor his, potential chin
the dog in. HIM i don't. Know i'm not saying
he's been getting by with smoking. Mirrors i'm just SAYING
i have, yet including The Jose alda, fight to see
a performance Where i'm, like, okay let's see how far

(55:32):
he can. Take? This is this the fight that he convinces? Us?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah this is THAT i have the same, feeling essentially
that what's missing is what's available in front of. Us,
namely you, know a win over a quality guy who
fought for A ufc title without ambiguity or. ASTERISKS i
think that's kind of what we're up. Against, right that's the.
Situation and AGAIN i feel like it's cheeto THAT i

(55:58):
can't OVER i don't want to overlook. HERE i think
that as we indicated as a hobby could play, spoiler
but this would be Jose aldo is the bigger NAME.
BC i, mean having Jose aldo in your resume is so.
Big but in terms of a win we can count
on as a meaningful, indicator this might be a better.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
One excuse, me bless, You Luke, Hobby chu's a minus
one thirty five favorite is a. Hobby BUT i think
he's gonna get. STOPPED i Do, okay you heard it right.
Here tell your friends come back to this.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Tape by the, Way Elliot, taporia who apparently does like
press conferences In spain once a, MONTH i don't quite
understand what's happening.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
There he holds his own press. Conference all it's.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Quite, remarkable he, said the. Fight he said a bunch of.
Stuff but this is the ONE i thought was kind of. INTERESTING.
Bc see what you think about. This this is this
Is taporia talking. Quote i've already Told morob that he
needs to change weight classes because he's one, hundred has
a chance to win a second. Belt he might, say,
okay well which weight. Class as for a fight With,
VOLKANOVSKI i have no doubts on what happens in that.

(57:01):
FIGHT i know that it ends With morob. Winning he
Wants morob to move up to forty five and Fight.
Volkanovsky AND i gotta tell, YOU i wasn't high on
that fight too long, ago but it's increasingly becoming interesting to.

Speaker 10 (57:15):
Me All.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
RIGHT i BELIEVE i saw those comments transcribed from one
she loves the gloves over there In.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Georgia so, yes same prece event Where taporia congratulates hiself.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Apparently out to duty on. That, YEAH i Believe taporia
is now a sponsor for a big bank. There we
have Heard morob in the pass say he doesn't want
to move, up but he's got to get Through umar
a second. Time you heard. It you heard it right.
Here he's got to get Through umar a second time
before we even have this. Conversation so that's the facts right.
There we'll find out about this matchup for the. Hobby

(57:49):
i'm fired up about this next, Fight, Luke why AM
i the only one that cares a lot About Minon?
Pharoh coming off the title loss there To Valentina chevchenko
looking to stay relevant at the top end of this,
division welcoming and absolutely Streaking Jaine Jazz divisius and as
we look at the odds right, now The french Product

(58:12):
parah minus two thirty your favorite to the plus one
Ninety Jazz. Divisius but this is the best form we've
seen From jasmine up to this. Point does she have
the skill set to compete on even terms here With?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
FAROU i don't think.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
SO.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
U maybe the buck stops HERE. Bc faro's got real
tough takedown. Defence she's, physically you, know, uh quite strong
for this. Division the fight With chifchenko was, boring but
if you recall it it started off very poorly for,
her but it ended up being somewhat. Close, SURE i

(58:52):
just don't know who's got the physical tools necessary to
beat someone like. That except For, Chevchenko jazzavissius is probably
a little bit more risk, taking which can confer some
benefits certain. Ways she might be a little bit, looser
a little bit, faster But faro's ability to control. Distance
faro is you, know she doesn't have a very exciting,

(59:14):
game but she controls the terms of the exchanges and
that is such a dominant factor and who ultimately. Wins
if she can put on a, jab she could put
on a. Sidekick you, know she's physically, strong she has
she's hard to take, down she's hard to get a
body lock. On she's hard to do anything. To, really
Even chevchenko had to kind of be. REAL i mean,

(59:34):
again it started off, great but at the end had
to kind of be a real piecemeal about the. OFFENSE
i just feel, like you, know it's a three round,
fight so that changes the stakes and the way in
which they fight to a. DEGREE. Bc But i'd be
surprised If Jazz divisius gets her hand raised here long
Islanod what are the odds on this?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
FIGHT bc just named of it was what minus two
thirty four h plus one Ninety.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Jazzmine that sounds about, right, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
In agreements with. YOU i Love. JASMINE i love what she's,
done how she's turned her game around pretty. Quickly thirty
six years, old by the, way but she is operating
at the peak of her. Powers after a couple early
defeats on the rise up decision losses To Tracy cortes
To Natalia, Silva she's on a five fight win, streak
three of those by, submission and they're not against non wikipedia.

(01:00:20):
Entries It's, Catchuerra It's fatima Climb ariane Da, silva One Oh,
silva and then a submission went Over jessica Andraj But
farau is on a different level that takedown, defense the
ability to control the terms of the fight with the.
STRIKING i think her Striking Pharauh i'm talking about is
aggressively ahead of What jasmine can. BRING i like the

(01:00:40):
physicality That jasmine brings to this. DIVISION i like the
confidence in her ground, game BUT i feel Like farrow
is not done competing at the title. Level for as
disastrous of the start of That chevchenko fight, went AND
i Think farrow is gonna come back and prove exactly
who she is. Here great opportunity For Jasmine Home. Soil but,

(01:01:01):
Dude farrow is really good and it took The Blanche
field fight for me to fully see.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
That, yes, yes she is better THAN i thought. TOO
i just feel, like you, know, Listen farrow's got some
limits to her. Game we saw some of those in
the last. Fight she got her. FACE i think she
got her nose broken in that fight. Too you, know
she took some real lumps in that. Contest but she's

(01:01:29):
got a, real surprisingly boring but stubborn physical, game and
it takes someone who can match the physical tools and
has a good enough skill set to get around. That
AND i feel Like jazzavissius gets maybe kind of close
on both, regards but from WHAT i can, tell not
enough in either. CASE i guess we could be. Wrong

(01:01:50):
let's see, tomorrow all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Right friend of The. Program Matt vola is back to
kick off the six fight main, card despite the fact
that he's been off for thirteen months following two Brutal
ko defeats Uh. Luke Matt fravola we're trying to figure
out what he has left here at age thirty, five
he'll be taking On Kyle nelson and he will be
a slight favorite. Here it's a virtual pick him For

(01:02:14):
vola minus one fifteen according To, DraftKings minus one oh
five For. Nelson how much Does Matt ravola have? Left
or can you not even answer that question and just
say he's either gonna knock the guy out or get knocked,
out because that is the story of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Here, YEAH i, mean, dude like you took the words
right out of my. Mouth just just listen to the.
Record he GETS kao viciously As i'm glad he took
about a year. Off be see that's a good thing
that he. Did obviously that was a card AND i
Think france he gets knead in the face by FARIZI.
M he loses ben While Saint denis he gets head.
Kicked and that was also in twenty twenty. Three so
he fought two times in twenty twenty, three but just
once in twenty twenty. Four before, that he Beat DREW

(01:02:51):
doverbc in one. Round he beat Atman iseitar in one.
Round he Beat Jennario valdez in one. Round he lost
To terence McKinney in seven. SECONDS i, mean he just
goes on and. On he went the distance with arm
in Sarryuki in AT usc two fifty seven in twenty twenty.
One but you, know So yukin was just kind of
a very much Old it still is but like at the,

(01:03:12):
time really Only russell heavy positional control kind of. Guy
but to anybody who opens up with, HIM, bc you
see what it, is it's just it's just he closes
the fifth of its armageddon and you know sometimes it's
a little friendly fire like he can't quite you, know control. It,
so you, Know Kyle nelson has SURPRISED. Mebc he lost
To Steve, garcia who's actually pretty, good you, know but

(01:03:36):
he has surprised me a little. BIT i think this
might might be a tough fight for you may have
said the odds THAT i MAY i may have missed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Him, yeah it's a virtual pick them For vola a,
slight slight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Favorite, YEAH i mean this is a tough one BECAUSE
i feel like For vola is more of a physical,
hammer but you, know he's on a rough. Stretch Kyle nelson,
says surprised me in the past with like his precision
striking it in certain. Ways this is a tough. Fight
it's a tough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Fight, yeah we thought we would see For rolla back AT.
Msg he's back earlier, Quickly Long, Island, luke you tend
to bet on anyone Who's australian Or Long. Islander this
man actually lives in your damn? Town are you going
for him?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
HERE i will throw a bet on. HIM i haven't.
Yet i'm gonna throw him in a, parlay But i'm
officially taking fight does not go the, distance like you guys.
SAID i think he either does the knocking out or
gets knocked. Out So i'm just rooting for violence. Here
Hopefully matt takes it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Home, yeah and put some respect On Steve garcia's name or.
Not either, way he's going to be in a main
event coming up at the at The warehouse Against. Onnamah,
luke what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Right what we?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Do that's a main? Event?

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah it is, amazing it, Is. LUKE i gotta, say
top to bottom this card is good. Man what else
do you have your eyes on for this fight night?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Card? Here let me pull my notes. Up, yeah there
we Are, OKAY i mean after, that it kind of
falls off a little. Bit we've been over some of
the bigger. Ones fun fight is definitely gonna Be Bruno
silva Versus Young Song. Park you, Know Hunkstung park had
a bit of a tough loss in his last, fight
but it was under you, know unenviable. CIRCUMSTANCES i think
this will give you a better assessment of whether or

(01:05:09):
he and his opponent or at in the flyway. Division
SO i like That there's some interest Around Danny barlow
And Jordan santos as. Well also history Teacher Cody gibson
back against the GENTLEMAN i referenced. Earlier, Again i'm, Sorry
i'm Sure i'm saying it, wrong but a OR Chilingi
LONG Richi Long yeah is in this contest as. Well

(01:05:31):
drew Dober back in addition to all of, this on
the early prelim card Against Kyle, preppolek WHO i Guess
dover should win that. One but you, know some, listen
LIKE i, said this fun little gems up and down this.
Card as my nose begins to now leak along.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Island, look you were talking me before the, show WHILE
i need to focus aggressively on this guy who's in
the second fight of the, Night ozama beko at. Middleweight
were you, NOT.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I was just saying that that fight, alone second fight
of the Night Bekowev belgari would easily be like comin
event on AN apex card like. This bekoev guy got
a lot of hype around. Him two first round. KNOCKOUTS
i believe he's an att trained. Guy belgari Is poeton sparring,
partner obviously trains with him and to share. IT i
think this is gonna be an all action. Fight bekuev
is a pretty decent, favorite so he probably gets it

(01:06:20):
done either. Way like they're burying this, fight this is
a great. Card i'm hypeer good stuff right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
There Luke thomas to close out on That toporia conversation
In georgian when he was the sponsor of the, bank
he did say in that that If islam defeats he,
said If islam loses To Della, Madelena islam is gonna
go back to riding his camels or mules or whatever

(01:06:48):
the hell he. Said but he said If islam wins
the welterweight championship that he's ready to go up to
one seventy and fight him at The White House lawn
to become the first three division.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
CHAMPION i, MEAN i don't know what to say to, that, Right,
like on the one, hand that would be kind of,
insane and SO i would want to see. IT i
think on the other, hand it's, like, bro you don't
have any title defenses in this? Division what the fuck
are we?

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Doing who's going to get the first shot at the
three division? Championship is It poeton or Top.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
THIRTIA i feel Like i'm back on prop quiz AND
i have no idea what the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Is who are the only two people to Defeat Russian
Red rocket?

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Rond?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Oh sorry it was four of? Them by the, way
she got? Cut she got, cut she, Did, yes she. Did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yes, Well i'm sure you'll still be on Her instagram
looking at her incredibly disturbing. Videos, YES i don't. KNOW
i probably would, say, HONESTLY i might Say. POETON i,
mean he's riding some, momentum and you, KNOW i DON'T
i don't know if he's to get The jones. FIGHT
i don't know if he'll win, it but you know

(01:08:04):
he's he's flirting with it up. THERE bc and they
don't have shit For aspenall to, Fight so, YEAH i
mean maybe so.

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here let's go to topic number. THREE ufc three twenty, Three
december sixth In Las, vegas the final pay per view

(01:09:13):
of THE ESPN era FOR ufc has some announcements. Here
most importantly the main event Morob devalishvili will attempt to
set the record for title defenses within a calendar. Year
Tito ortiz had four title defenses within a twelve month,
period but this will be the first time in one
calendar year when he welcomes Payota yan for a Rematch december.

(01:09:34):
Sixth just how big of an, Achievement, luke do you
think this would be For morob who is a minus
three to ten betting favorite according To, DraftKings to the
plus two point fifty on in this second.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
FIGHT i think this would BE bc to, me and
there's some debate about. This at, worst if he wins,
this it's the third best year ANY mma fighter has.
Had listen to What i'm. Saying at, wow, Worst at,
worst it's the third. BEST i think you could make
an argument for number. TWO i don't know IF i

(01:10:09):
could make it number, one especially if he goes to
a decision and b. See of, course you might be,
asking as the audience might, be what would be the
other two years.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Not Being John jones in twenty?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Eleven, right, yeah we'll. See here's the. Thing to your,
Point John jones not only won every fight in twenty,
eleven he defended the title. Twice so he beat the
number one, contender then beat the, champion and then defended it,
twice and all four he won via. Stoppage he stopped
all of, them and in, fact if you think about,
it the last one of, those which was The oldamachidah,
one he just dropped him iconically on his, face, like,

(01:10:38):
dude that is a year that will not be easily,
repeated even by the likes Of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Morobdall he beat the bags off Of showgun for the
title and wit by the, way on five.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
WEEKS i mean the batter fight that he got it
on was In, february and then it was In march
when he Fought showgun Because rashad couldn't take, it and
so he JUST i mean a nigh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Over REMEMBER i think was. Beaten he was a massive
prospect to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yes and also this is my favorite things like oh
When john Beat, showgun he was. Washed he was champion
and twenty nine years, old please shut.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
The fuck, up and had just knocked Out, machidah so come, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Just please stop talking. Forever WHAT i would WHAT i
would say, though IS. Bc then you look At showguns
two thousand and, five and the reason why that's a
little bit different is he's got what the Hero maintzukona,
horrified WHICH i think doesn't. COUNT i mean it, counts
but it's not like super. Amazing, however he had five
total wins that, year and then he had two on
the same night With ovarim And Harikardo. Irona of, course

(01:11:34):
he had previously Beaten Little nag and then he had
also previously Beaten, rampage and he had Stopped rampage via soccer,
kicks he Stopped arona via hammer, fist and then he
knocked Out overim and he did those last two in
the same fucking night like that is you, know that's
a tough thing to. Beat SO i don't know If
morob is gonna beat. That WHAT i can say IS,

(01:11:56):
bc if he if he Finishes, yon it's abs'bsolutely in
conversation with. That so that's the first thing that he's talking.
About certainly he'd Win fighter of The YEAR. Bc he
might already have it locked up. Now if he, loses
that would make it a little bit harder to give
it to, Him but certainly he's at this point locked it,
up and that would solidify. It if he's not ALREADY
bc if he's not, already let's assume for the sake

(01:12:18):
of argument that it's still a little wishy washy about
who is the greatest bantlet of all. Time the argument
officially ends AT ufc three twenty three Of morodus's hand.
Raised you cannot even make an argument for cruise anymore
at that, point it would not, exist the quality of,
opposition the length of that. Run and, again if he
gets a stoppage on top of, it it's it's. Over it's,
over and that's the. Guy SO bc just, like consider

(01:12:41):
for a, second like what he is doing here with this.
Win you're talking about him being a pretty big favorite
in the, odds AND i understand that he's already beaten
this guy. Greater there's some dispute, about you, know how
injured each of them, Were but the stakes of this
one are actually huge because he's right at this precipice
of a number of IMPORTANT mma not official, awards but

(01:13:04):
the kinds of things that we remember in count and
this one win kind of pushes him over the edge
on a bunch of different. Fronts it's a, huge huge
fight for the legacy Of Morob dawallas movie very much.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
So can we include the twenty sixteen From Amanda. Newness
in this conversation where she wanted decision Over Valentina chevchenko
submitted me should take to win the championship and knocked
out a Returning RONDA.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
ROUSI i, mean that's a pretty great. Year but, dude
if you Beat, umar stop, O'Malley you Decision, corey but
you nearly stopped, him and let's just say you Stop. Yon,
DUDE i, mean you know you're. Talking let's See, yon former, champion,
O'Malley former, Champion corey obviously title, Contender, umar title. CONTENDER i, mean,

(01:13:52):
dude you know you're dealing with some fucking hammers at
one thirty, five and he's treating them like you know
their come from The contender. Series it's, insane that is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
True i'd also like to Offer poetons twenty twenty four
with three knockout title defenses in one hundred and seventy five,
days saving.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Multiple, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
And other people don't give him the. Love in, fact
people voted For Jorge mosbital For fighter of The year
in twenty, nineteen but never forget What Israel atisnya did that,
year Beating Anderson silva Beating kelvin gastolom in an absolute
war and then knocking Out Robert whitaker to win the middleweight. Championship,
okay never forget, that. Please all, right a very good,

(01:14:32):
year indeed as good as it. Gets right, there let's
continue Down Alexandre, pantosia the flyweight. Champion we'll have a
very tough and interesting title defense on this SAME ufc
three to twenty three card in The colemane event against
twenty four year Old Josh, van fresh off in absolute
war With Brandon royval to catapult himself to the top

(01:14:55):
of this. Division is This pantosia's toughest fight in? Years,
luke as he enters From DraftKings as a minus two
to forty five, FAVORITE.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I this is to me maybe the most interesting fight
on the car and IF i can be honest with,
you BECAUSE i feel like Josh van is. Green but you,
know it was kind of What aman's A hobby was
talking ABOUT, bc which, is if the champion stays busy
and you can get a couple of wins under your,
belt you can get and then obviously Just van this

(01:15:25):
is going to be his fourth fight this year. Too
by the, way so you've Got morob four fights and
Josh van this will be his fourth. Fight you can
build momentum sometimes pretty. Quickly it's hard For. Aliz he's
got a lot of these guys to get out of
like first. Gear but sometimes they can make a, push
and this is one of those. GUYS i feel, like,
Dude van Has we've said it a million times and
it's never come. True, Oh pantoji has been in all these.

(01:15:46):
Wars you, know now is going to be the time
where the bill comes, due and then it just really
never comes. Due you would imagine at some point it.
Will van has a ton of volume that he. Throws
he's highly, accurate but at the same, time and he
can scramble his ass off, Too but he throws a
lot of volume and he doesn't have a ton of
pop on it that could slow him down as well

(01:16:08):
as you, know however good he is on the, ground
he's not better Than. PANTOJA i can just tell you
that matter of, factly he's. Not so you, know there's
a lot of reasons to be like the guy's. Green
he's been kind of rushed up. Here it's a relatively weak,
division but at the same, time he's got, hands he's got,
combos he's got, volume he's got, moxie he's got. Momentum
and the, champion while extremely decorated looking for his fifth title,

(01:16:31):
defense has been through the. Ringer at some point that
will come to a. Close whether or not it's going
to BE uc through twenty, THREE i guess we'll have to. See,
yeah we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Will this, card, dude is That dana said that he
wanted to load up this card and make it. Magic
let's look at the complete fight card graphic. Here you've
Got Jan blokovich against guskovin what could be a. War
LUKE i absolutely loved this next fight thirty eight year
Old henry S hudol despite a three fight losing streak
against elite, competition and says it will be the final

(01:17:01):
fight of his career when he welcomes twenty seven year
old prospect and maybe the future of this division if
you can put it all, Together Peyton. Talbot you've also
Got Brandon moreno there against Tatsu. Retira who's that last fight?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
There Luke fariziam And Nazim sadakov.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Oh ziam's a guy that killed For. Vola, Okay, Okay Luke,
thomas let's stay With suhudo. HERE i love that he's
willing to do. THIS i love these type of crossroads.
FIGHTS i Think suhudo does not have enough left to
beat the, elites and we found that. Out we saw
the limitations. There but this is kind of an interesting
matchup that matters in a weird, way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Right whow so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
It'll really?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Yes? YES i, mean, well, yeah, YEAH i guess it.
DOES i mean it's hard to know exactly what they're
gonna do With. TALBOT i think they're still trying to
figure out what they. Have but it looks to me
LIKE bc and this is just my. Opinion you may
agree or. Disagree looks to me like they're Cashing henry.
Out they Know henry's got this fight left and maybe that's,
it and if he can get a, win you, know

(01:18:06):
maybe he'll try and you, know shoehorn in a title
shot or you, know who, knows he'll try to make
one last final. Push but if he, loses for, SURE
i think he's. Done and they're trying to, see all,
right Is talbot who did not look good, obviously, well
he looked at his last one Against Felipe, lima but
then the fight prior to that against how Many barcelos
who looked terrible with the. Wrestling so the question is,

(01:18:28):
like how much has he really? Improved young? Guy he
should be able to improve pretty substantially due the Guy
talbot had a Big New York times whole profile feature on.
Him he casts a net into a different part of
sports or cultural fandom that most fighters can't. Touch and
SO i think THE usc might be trying to see
if they've got something with, it but they want to
know if if he's got the. Goods this kind of tells,

(01:18:50):
us at, least you, know guess us pretty far to
giving us a good answer to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
That this is this is, uh, yeah this is. Great
it's great on every. Level it would allow Su hudo
to go out the big win, over you, know in
a fight that kind of matters to figure out the
future of this. Division and there are a lot of
People i've seen that are straight up Picking Henry shudo
with that wrestling Against, talbot so we'll have to see.
THAT i love the banger, potential of, course there With
moreno And Tatsu retaira as. Well, luke we've got some

(01:19:16):
sound here Of Marob devolishvili's, coach responding to what Pyotr
yan said that he was injured the first time they
fought and that we'll see a much different rematch here
in the three twenty three main.

Speaker 14 (01:19:27):
Event what is a response To yan believing that this
thing is going to go differently and him sort of
saying that health was the reason why here you lost
that fast fight against Marav.

Speaker 9 (01:19:39):
Whatever makes you sleep better At i'm good with. That, whatever,
guys whatever they have to say that gets them through
the night to feel better about a. Loss maybe it
Was i'm sure he was. Injured we were injured. Too,
Literally marov's hand could not be fit into a. Glom
it was the size of a. Baseball is that they
completely broken in two different. Places he had surgery directly.

(01:19:59):
After you never heard a peep about. It we never
spoke about it until this came, out Until jan decided
to say that you know he's fifty, Percent well, guess
but we only had one hand, Too SO i don't
think you. Know and now you're you're giving motivation to
a guy that Did, okay he was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Hurt and that's.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
GREAT i Respect yon on his, team AND i think
he's a great, fighter and LIKE i, SAID i enjoyed watching.
Him i'm a fan of his. Fights but DO i
think it's gonna go any? Different absolutely. Not DO i
think that That rob comes out with the. Title, yes
AND i think that it might be a you, know
a much more emphatic, win much more dominant, win because

(01:20:41):
now you have a you have an even more Motivated.
Rob but, again whatever anybody wants to, say, man that's
up to them and. Whatever you, Know i'm not a
big fan Of OH i was hurt before this, fight
OR i was everybody's, hurt don't take the. Fight don't
take the fight if you're gonna lose and you're gonna
cry about, it or you're, gonna you, know come out
and say, eventually well this is. Why it really might

(01:21:01):
have been Why but that's on, you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Man you chose to do.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
That so, whatever whatever makes people feel like they sleep, better,
whatever it, is all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
GOOD i think that's a fair statement there From John
wood that's on submission radio shot To Dennis skrotokov over, there, Off,
yeah thank you very, much, There. Luke do you think
it'll be a better fight than the first one and more?
Competitive although what he's saying About morob's hand being a
balloon and. Broken, Dude morob just doesn't care about illnesses

(01:21:30):
or injuries in A poeton like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Way, yeah, YEAH i do think at least early it'll be. Better,
YEAH i, MEAN i believe That yan probably was not
in a great. HEALTH i think he learned from that.
FIGHT i think that he'll have a better strategy and
it will do some good for. Him but my rule, is,
hey he already beat, him and be to your, Point

(01:21:53):
morob was also probably super fucked. Up and more to the,
Point i'm not picking Against morob UNTIL i literally see
someone take the belt from him and then we can
discuss what his real limits. Are but until then they don't.
Exist and for a fight that you Know morob has already,
won there are some common complications that can. Happen you
can get a little over, Confident BUT i Just i'm,

(01:22:13):
Dude morob is streaking for a. Reason he looks better every.
Time AND bc here's something that's also. Possible john might
look better for around even two and then still get
finished in around three or. Four, like that's possible as.
Well so you, KNOW i look forward to seeing. It
and the last Thing i'll say on. THIS i do
think it's good for guys who want to be weight class.
Legends you need to see some of the better contemporaries

(01:22:36):
a couple of. Times you, Know Saint pierre had to
Fight Chill son in, Twice George Saint pierre had to
fight WHO whoa did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You Say Saint pierre had to Fight Chill song and?
Twice didn't you What i'm?

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Saying Anderson silva had to Fight son and. Twice excuse?
Me Sant pierre had to Fight coshtek a couple of,
times and there was more rematches than that during the
course of their. Tenures. Uh for, EXAMPLE dj had to
Fight John dottson a couple of. Times the guys who
can really do something else that makes some noise in your,
division really good champs are gonna see them a couple of,
times and in fights you don't necessarily want or, prefer

(01:23:07):
or you, know you have a different idea of what
they should be. Doing it's actually a big part of
their legendary run if they can get the, win and
this would be a Huge we've discussed a massive fight
in terms of the reward that is waiting For morob
with a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Win, YEAH i Think piotryan had a groin injury or
something that slowed him, down so we'll see in the.
Rematch by the, WAY i did chat with One umar
And Nirmaga medov yesterday who returns next week at. One
check out that interview on THE. BCX i believe later.
Today lots of talk about what he could potentially do
in a rematch With morab if he gets By Mario.
Bautista so banda wait at the top. End heating up

(01:23:46):
in a big way and to close not everybody's buying
The Joshua van. Hype. Here one of those people Are.
Pantosia here's him with the overdog spot.

Speaker 15 (01:23:54):
EVERYBODY i, think yo god and can destroy.

Speaker 16 (01:23:58):
Everyone, okay so have you been watching a little bit
On Joshua.

Speaker 15 (01:24:03):
VAN i Watched joshva very, before you, know in that,
MOMENT i, think, OKAY i don't need to take too
much attention in this guy right, now because he's like
a top fifteen something like. That he Beat roy val
with to a very nice, fight you, know and that
that's so good because HE i have fifteen minutes to
watch that. FIGHT i feel revel make a lot of
mistake And joshun take advantage about. That you, Know joshva

(01:24:25):
deserves for the belt completely. Fired he had so much
good skills to take down. Defense he have very good boxing.
Movements you, KNOW i like this. STYLE i like to
put myself in the, disposition you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
KNOW Lt this three twenty three card also Includes Marvin
victory Versus Bruno, Fajita Macy barber Versus Karina. SILVA i
like that, Fight terrence McKinnie Versus Chris. Duncan this card
is very. Good how about that three twenty two CARD.
Msg by the, way that thing is loaded from top to.
Bottom so a good close to the UFC's run WITH,

(01:25:02):
espn maybe outside of some of those fight night. Snoozers
and we expect a huge launch to the paramount, era
probably With supuria in the first fight In, january so
in the first main event In january on the PL e.
Side so we'll see where that. Goes right, there let's
go over to topic number. Four this was big news On,
wednesday The California State Athletic commission unanimously recommending the passage

(01:25:27):
of The Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival act to a
very controversial, response mostly because there was zero professional boxers
present on this sort Of zoom conference. Call but there
was a lot OF mma fighters alumni, Representatives Big john.
McCarthy you also Had nick con REPRESENTING Zufa. Boxing, luke

(01:25:50):
what was the purpose in your eyes of this recommendation
From Andy foster in The California Stay Athletic Commission and if,
anything what did this herring disclosure prove since this needs
to be put Before congress to fully get.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Approved, YEAH i saw people reporting strangely that like this
had some kind of binding. Power it does. Not it
is merely the six commissioners of The California State Athletic
commission essentially recommending or you, know giving saying what they
think is important, Here like we recommend this piece of
legislation as good for you, know the. Industry you can

(01:26:27):
read their own statements about. It what's the purpose of?
This so the purpose of this event was to manufacture.
Consent it was a state, commission one of the most important,
ones certainly by Volume california deals. With historically, speaking, anyway

(01:26:47):
the most amount of like boxing AND mma events happened
typically In california versus any other. STATE i mean that's
changed to a degree during the, pandemic but that has
historically been. True so it's one of the most, important
if not the most important commissions in The United, states
essentially lending the credibility that that body has as an
entity to recommend a piece of legislation on behalf of,

(01:27:10):
this you, know sort of monopolistic behemoth and tko that
and you're asking, like, well why would why would they
want to do? That, well you, can we can read
their statements if you, know if that feels enlightening to
interview out, There but it's really not very. Complicated in my,
judgment it is quite obviously this piece of. LEGISLATION i,
mean nobody would look around at the state of. Boxing
we see you would say it's in great. Shape but you,

(01:27:32):
know and then the proponents of the uh The American
Boxing Revival, act this is This oliact. Amendment, essentially what
they would argue, is you, know, hey look we're putting
in you, know minimums on round pay and other forms
of medical. Coverage but it's, like you don't need The
aliact changes to do. That you can just pass laws
or The commission by itself could take that. Up so
it's really got nothing to do with.

Speaker 10 (01:27:52):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
More it's so that you, know why would The commission
support legislation that provides a carve out to the existing
regulations that were put in place to protect. Boxers and
the answer, is, well, again you can read what they.
Write i'm going to give you what my opinion, is
which is THAT i think that they are reading the
tea leaves and they're looking at the way things are,

(01:28:14):
going and they're making a. Bet and the bet IS
tko is going to get their way one way or the.
Other and they already CONTROL, mma they have a significant
stake and control IN wwe boxing is there for the.
Taking and, again of course this legislation is designed to
aid their boxing. Promotion they're making a bet that they're

(01:28:37):
going to. Win and if you think about it, LOGICALLY,
BC i don't know what the number of boxing events,
annually of how it's changed or, not but certainly we
have some evidence from topology THAT mma events aren't steady.
Decline in a world, where especially in The United, states
in a world where that is happening and there's concentration
around one dominant brand that doesn't just have a monopoly
in one, sport but that conceivably has a monopoly in,

(01:29:00):
two are certainly a dominant brand in one and a
monopoly and another and then obviously has potentially free reign
with this legislation being, passed they're making a bet that
if they get sideways with them in a world where
the amount of events are already, contracting that they won't
be able to get those events at their in their,
state which could deprive it of important. Revenue you, know

(01:29:22):
the way that we these commissions work is some of
it is just funded by the, taxpayers but a big
component of it is you, know they tax events that
come to the state for licensing fees and you, know
you name, it and that's a way which they collect.
Revenue it used to be in a WORLD bc where
like there were so many different promoters BETWEEN mma and,
boxing even with AN mma it, self if THEY ufc
didn't Go strike, force would you know WHAT i, mean

(01:29:45):
and they would have shows ON. Cbs but that doesn't exist.
Anymore everything is much more. Concentrated if you get sideways
with that, PROMOTER i think that they're, thinking we would
Be this would be ruined us for, Us this would
be ruin us for the industry and the, state and
this would be ruin us for our potential careers in
the regulatory world, Thereafter so they're making a bet that
if they go along with, it that they will preserve

(01:30:08):
their interests long. TERM i don't know that for a.
Fact that's simply my. Opinion BUT i don't know how
else you can reconcile what their job is versus how
they're behaving here and then come to any other conclusion
than they're. Folding so maybe you have a different, view
but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Mine, NO i, mean that's the WAY i see. It
it feels sort of. Inevitable are their potential setbacks here
for the average boxer in comparison to the way the aliac? Stands, now,
yeah we've documented, those you, know at nauseum, here but
it also at the flip on the flip side is
hard to defend where the sport's at now with the

(01:30:43):
abuses of the sanctioning. Bodies it's interesting right, here and
it's definitely a controversial topic, overall which is why you've
seen an aggressive response From oscar de La hoy on
Clapp Beck thursday this. WEEK a humorous.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
One it was so weird, though right BECAUSE i, mean
this is the funny. Part like to your, POINT, bc
there was one amateur boxer who called there were no
pro boxers who, Called.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Yeah that's a bad look to not have that no.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Program, yeah and like, dude like it was like de La,
Hoya like instead of making Clapback, thursday you could have
just called you, Know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I'm with you on. That so there were a lot
of people for it on the, call From Forrest griffin
To john, McCarthy to a few. Authors one of, those
of course Was Nick. Coon nikon issued a statement THROUGH tko.
Afterwards he's obviously the president of ww and we'll be
in charge OF Zufa boxing along With Dana, white he,
says on behalf OF. Zufa we want to Thank California

(01:31:31):
Athletic commission for the thoughtful consideration of all voices being
presented in today's hearing and for the unanimous six to
nothing vote support for the New. Act this bill does
not eliminate or change any of the existing provisions of
the ORIGINAL Ali. Act what we are proposing is an
alternative system in which fighters will have more choices and,
opportunities better, pay greater health and safety, protections and more

(01:31:55):
events in which to. Compete, also as The commission is fully,
aware THE Ali act is supported By Lani. Ali the
wife of the Greatest Muhammad. Ali we Know lani personally
and can share with you what she said to us is,
quote this is a great opportunity for boxers and this
is What muhammad would have. Wanted, Now, luke this is
similar to What Dana white told me WHEN i interviewed
him ON Cbs SPORTS hq when the announcement happened Of

(01:32:18):
zufo boxing coming To PARAMOUNT. Cbs of, course my parent
company AND i get. It they're not necessarily changing. It
they're creating a new, system and you can ultimately pick
to go THE zufa, route where there seems to be
A ufc level of monopolistic control but also some plus
is built, in or you can stay in the traditional.
One we'll. SEE i guess how long that traditional structure,

(01:32:41):
lasts BECAUSE i think we feel inevitably That zufo boxing
And Turkey alishik will combine down the. Road so these
are potential major changes that could limit certain FIGHTERS i,
guess leverage and earning, potential but can certainly increase the
earning potential for fighter in the. Beginning so you can

(01:33:01):
understand the. Pushback here's a list of those that were
on the call that spoke at this, Event nick Con,
Big john, McCarthy Chris lebin representing as a current official
and NEXT ufc. Fighter there were, doctors professors but AT
ufc doctor a couple boxing Promoters Corey rapaz there And
Tom loffler all the way through, podcasters members of THE,

(01:33:25):
mmafa and a lot of current and FORMER ufc fighters But.
Luke Although Matt, brown a FORMER ufc, fighter was very
vocal against it and made a lot of noise and
essentially straight up accusing them of sort of trying to
fool the. Boxers you had a lot OF mma fighters
on there OR mma centric people who were in support of,

(01:33:47):
it which is kind of. Surprising AND i think that's
where the controversy out of this came, from the idea
of why are you HAVING mma fighters on there and
not active boxers who this will.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
EFFECT i don't, KNOW i can't speak for the. BOXERS
i don't really. KNOW i JUST i MEAN i kind
of said this, earlier like the this is WHAT i
THIS i was pointing to. Earlier we see like and
on THE i, mean, okay so, like, look look who
the opposition. Was it's largely without exclusively THE mma folks
who have been engaged in like ali act extension efforts
and or lawsuit. Efforts right like they're kind of that's

(01:34:18):
what who's? There where is the coordinated inside of boxing?
Resistance it doesn't. Exist it doesn't, exist and for that
reason they're going to get run. Over you, know mmas MMA's,
folks they can make a. DIFFERENCE i suppose they. Can you,
know they can try and slow things, down but, dude,

(01:34:41):
boxing the boxing is just they're not putting up any
fither just do this is you, know we got to
say something about, this like the culture of. Boxing hold
on a, second let me let me like organize my
thoughts here for a. Second the culture of. BOXING b
see how many years went by as a boxing fan
and observe and you can speak to this much better

(01:35:01):
THAN i. Can but everybody has felt. It everybody's felt.
It or year after a year you were just, like you,
know all the fights THAT i want to get made
don't get. Made and there's exceptions to. That there's been
good years that bad, years but there's been in so
many years where like things didn't. Happen but the funny
thing WAS bc during that, time boxing at least visibly

(01:35:22):
still look to be the same to us that it
maybe not always, did but still looked pretty. Similar but
what it ended up DOING bc was setting in motion
a culture of rot and it's set in motion a
culture of. Passivity and now that they need to martial
forces to protect their, interests there's nothing to do it.

(01:35:46):
With like the it's, been it's been completely hollowed, out
and the boxers seem. Unaware the promoters would rather make
clapback videos than you, know do anything about. IT i
just feel like, boxing you, know whether you think THE
tko sponsored legislation is the appropriate remedy or, not the
reality is this sport has fallen into extraordinary. Disrepair and

(01:36:09):
what's so funny TO mebc is you know you kind
of see it a year every, year AS i, mentioned
but not, really but then it's nothing at, all and
then all at, Once and here we are at the
all at once. Moment.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
YEP i mean it is, hard it's hard to. DEFECT i,
mean DO i love this for the? Fighters DO i
think this is the right new model to?

Speaker 8 (01:36:24):
Go?

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Personally not, necessarily but they, are at least in. Theory
given the fighters the choice of staying with the old,
model going with the new but the old model also.
Sucks the old model was absolutely dominated by corruption of
the sanctioning. Bodies how do you why is it that
some promoters have their fighters always ranked in one sanctioning
body but aren't ranked at all in. Another like we
can see through the ridiculousness and the corruption that has

(01:36:49):
segregated the. Sport if this at least succeeds in bringing it,
TOGETHER i guess it's a. Plus but on the flip
side of this argument of whether this was a setup
or bring on people that already supported it to support.
It if boxing's not gonna it's the same argument we
have against THE mma. Fighters if they're not gonna stand
up and organize and fight for better payer, treatment and

(01:37:10):
also the boxers aren't gonna do the, same then, yeah
then what are we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Here you're gonna get what you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Get that's what it, is, right all? Right we close
with topic number, five another sort of controversial. Development you,
remember FORMER ufc Champion Frankie edgar was expected to return
on The october FOURTH Bkfc Big time event In, Newark New,
jersey which of course was made invented By Mike perry
Versus Jeremy. Stevens Frankie edgar was scheduled to be in

(01:37:36):
the co main event Against Jimmy. Rivera did we all
Want Frankie edgar to come? Back not necessarily of, course
right or maybe almost unanimously know because of the amount
OF tko stoppage defeats to the tail end of his
GREAT ufc. Career but he was signed onto this fight In,
august and according To Frankie, edgar he went through a

(01:37:57):
litany of tests with nine different, doctors, texts testing every
single part of his, brain, heart everything and passed with flying.
Colors so why was it that In, october right before the,
event at the last, Minute Frankie edgar was pulled from
the Card and he would go on to explain on
his podcast that it we're some shenanigans around that he

(01:38:19):
was told that he's pulled from the card because a
doctor that represents THE bukfc that did not look at,
him ruled that he was too old and had too many,
losses even though they knew this information In august when
they signed. Him and it's really, speculated it's it's brude
speculation that there's two POTENTIAL i guess conspiracy theories, Here

(01:38:39):
one that this event did not sold sell to the
level that they, thought SO bkfc chose to cut its
uh you, know cut Frank diegar loosen not have to
pay him the full amount to save, money or more,
nefariously that they potentially led him on all along to
use his name to celtickets knowing they would pull the
fast on Here edgar ultimately Accusing David feldman A, bkfc

(01:39:04):
of having his reps Tell Frankie edgar That feldman was
flying To manchester for an event for a week and
he would have no phone on him so you couldn't contact.
Him this is suddenly heating up in a big. Way,
So Luke, thomas what really happened? Here BECAUSE i think
all the available scenarios are pretty bad FOR bkfc unless

(01:39:24):
you're going to believe that they listen to people like
us saying we don't want to See frankie fight again
for his own. Wellbeing and maybe they, decided, hey let's
not take a, Chance but why would they do it
just a week out before the event when they knew
about this for four or five, months they knew exactly
who he.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
WAS i, MEAN i can't, say without access to more
conclusive information what exactly. Happened we don't have discovery over
emails or texts or anything like. That WHAT i will
say is kind of. INTERESTING i know we have A
Frankie edgar, graphic if we can put that up on
the score. Here. QUOTE i passed every single one of my.

(01:40:02):
MEDICALS i did a whole shit ton of MEDICALS i
thought be. Gifts he had. SOMETHING i was, Like, wow
this is pretty. Entertaining they got. Something but not if
they treat fighters like. This Because i'll tell you what
fighters out there. Beware how often do you ever hear
fighters talk like this about a, promotion any promotion that's.
MAJOR i, mean it's not unheard, of but it's not
an everyday. Thing but more to the, point Yea Frankie

(01:40:25):
edgar was never really embroiled in any kind of controversy
like this at any point in HIS mma career ever,
ever not WITH, ufc not you, know obviously he finished
his career WITH. Ufc but you just never heard of
something like. This he's been a professional in every, Way
so for him to say this again everyone's going to

(01:40:46):
be allowed to make their own, conclusions highly unusual for
him to say it highly highly unusual for him to say.
It more to the, point you, know, listen we have
said nice things ABOUT bkfc based on some of the market.
Reception that big show they had In, philly, right b
see that Had Eddie alvarez on the. CARD i think
it Was. Eddie it was It eddie And Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Perry it Was eddie And Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Stevens Jeremy, Stevens, yes good call There Long. Island you,
know that was that looked like a pretty big. Success
and they had other shows that have looked like pretty big.
Successes and we've, said you, know they're providing a real
alternative to MM. A it's MM a. Adjacent it's got
some elements of. It it's it's called, boxing but it's

(01:41:32):
really you, know it's more related to THE mma world
than it is to the boxing. World and still they
it's a meaningful. Alternative but you, know there's just been
a number of incidents where obviously they had a guy,
die especially from injuries related to a show that they had.
Hosted you, know they have this incident they had hired
a guy who was like an insane racist and posted

(01:41:54):
all kinds of like you, know LIKE i mean not
not not not like you, know oh he said off
color jokes like like members of you, know OR i
think affiliated anyway with some racist. Organizations in any, event you,
know this is the kind of part of the fight
game where it just feels like you have to be
extra careful because it's dealing with the kind of athlete

(01:42:19):
at a stage of the career where they, can in
certain ways be more. Vulnerable and you, know, AGAIN i
don't know if they were cutting, corners trying to put
them on a thing to sell tickets and then pull
them off because they didn't want to pay them when it,
didn't you, know yield bigger. NUMBERS i don't know if
that's what they. Did but If Frankie edgar is offering
caution fighters out, there would be unwise to not heed.

(01:42:42):
It you're just dealing with. Dude it's so weird to.
Me why does any this is true for any? Promoter
why does anyone trust any combat sports? Promoter Like i'm
not saying you have to in every case always distrust,
Them but what is it about what they do and

(01:43:02):
what is it about this industry that makes anybody think
they can default a certain level of? Trust to. Them you.
Cannot you. Cannot this is not how this business. Works
this is not polite. Society these are people, that you,
Know i'm not saying that anybody broke any. LAWS i
don't know that they. Did but these are not people,
Again i'm speaking industry wide here that are entitled to

(01:43:24):
a degree of trust because they've acted in high trust.
Ways you have to have your head on a swivel
in this, industry and when things like this begin to add,
up it's important to take.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Inventory, Well frankie on His champ and The tramp podcast
sort of felt like he was forced to open up about.
IT a couple interesting things he, Said one that he
actually had no interest in fighting, again that they kind
of called him and pushed him and then essentially gave
him an offer of a fight perse that he couldn't.
Refuse and then, two despite him going to great lengths

(01:43:56):
to clear himself, medically he claims that his medicals were
never sent by the promotion to The New Jersey State
Athletic commission and that he's been bad and he's been
doing his medicals Through New jersey his entire mma fighting.
Career so that's, Interesting and the fact that a doctor
who didn't even look at him with it would just suddenly,

(01:44:17):
say you know, what it's too dangerous for this guy
to fight after they've sold a certain amount of. Tickets
that's where it looks pretty. Sketchy, ultimately we do have
a response here From Dave, felman who caught up WITH mma.
Fightings what's the guy's name, Is David? Martin excuse, me
let's listen. In do you plan on trying to Bring frankie.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
In or are we just going to move?

Speaker 17 (01:44:36):
ON i don't, HONESTLY i don't know if he even
wants to fight with us. AGAIN i think he's a
little upset with, us as maybe he should. Be but
the end of the, day we were looking out for
his best. Interest he is, getting you, know a very
very respectable. Check SO i don't think he's mad at
us for. THAT i think he's mad at us because
we took away an opportunity from. Him, again sometimes you

(01:44:57):
have to say fighters from, themselves And i'm not saying
that we Say franky from, himself But i'm saying for that,
night our medical team wasn't prepared for, that and that's
why will we revisit. It we'll certainly talk to. Him
if he's, interested we will definitely dive deep and if
we can make it, happen we.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
Will and you, said like he's still getting a paycheck
out of, This like he still got money out of.

Speaker 17 (01:45:16):
This, yeah, no Definitely, listen he promoted. It he went
to every APPEARANCE i asked him to go. To he
did any INTERVIEW i asked him to go. To he
did a watch party at at his dad's bar or
uncle's bar or something like. That, like he really went
above and beyond to try to help. Us so of
course he had to get taken care of out of
talk right, now and a lot of things flying around
ABOUT cte right now and actually coming after commissions and

(01:45:40):
coming after promoters for, it that definitely had something to
do with our. Decision that certainly had something to do
with our. Decision and when we do, anything we're gonna
weigh risk and. Reward what's the, risk what's the? Reward
and the reward on this, one we didn't think outweigh the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Risks that's why that's why we did. THAT i don't
how did you not know that? Before?

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
BROTHER i, mean that's the thing that's sketchy about. THIS
i Mean frankie would say on his podcast that they
paid him a smaller, amount but a firm amount now
to just like thank him for promoting. It but he
straight up said they probably paid me that, much SO
i wouldn't sue.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Them, yeah he literally said. It, yeah and he says
he's not as long as they pay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Him AND i, MEAN Mma joey had had like a
forty minute video about this and accusing THE mma media
of covering, up Accusing aeriel of covering it. Up BUT
i don't, know it does seem. SKETCHY i think the
great the biggest POINT i took from M. A joey's
video was say what the issue? Was say what the
medical issue? Was, Right, like wouldn't that have wouldn't that

(01:46:41):
have given them an alibi in this? Regard but, yet how.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Can there be a medical issue If New jersey cleared?
Him AND i understand that the that THE BFC bkfc
doctor could still. Intervene that's a series of. Them but it's,
like how do you sign a guy for a fight
and make him kind of a centerpiece of card or
at least you, know a big part of. It, anyway
who's got this history and you've not done any medical

(01:47:06):
examination about his. Situation, first it's, JUST i, mean even
if there isn't a nefarious, explanation, right even if it,
is oh they didn't rug pull, him the best explanation
after that is you're just horribly. Incompetent, yeah you, KNOW
i mean so.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
At the same, time we didn't want to see him
get knock up By Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Rivera so, yeah has also done book guys like. That
you know WHAT i, Mean it's just the whole thing
is it's just is Just i'll be, nice. Unfortunate, yeah
there we.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
Go let's put. That let's put that to, bed all.
Right can we move on? Here, yeah those are our
five topics for This. Friday we now offer, you as,
always the opportunity to reach out and touch our show
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(01:47:57):
your private. Parts thank.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
You this is your.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Fuel of, course Our friday fan Segments Dead wrong And Fan.
Subs we begin by putting ourselves on trial On budsman's.
Style you thought we said something, wrong you brought a
receipt we'll tell you at the end of the day
whether we was actually. Dead, wrong, wrong, alrighty let's see

(01:48:22):
who takes more l's. Today this one's From. Nick he
says during The october tenth, episode around the ten minute,
mark my fears were confirmed THAT bc has taken a
shovel to the head and suffered severe brain damage when
he Said Charles olivera was chaoed for the first time
in his career Against Elia. Taporia charles was chaoed By Clubs,
swanson By, antikode by Both Paul felder And DONALD, Cerroni,

(01:48:48):
luke please save a syringe FOR bc when you visit
his house to euthanize his. Pets what are? We what
are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Here, okay MAYBE i gotta say that's that's a little.
Aggressive BUT i saw that cat. Today it's on my,
mind So i'll.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
OKAY i was, dead wrong on THAT i was. DEAD
i don't know WHY i THOUGHT i was.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
DEAD i was thinking the first time he's been put
out completely cold with a single. Punch isn't that what it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Is it? Is BUT i GUESS i was thinking Of
max getting stopped for the first time in the fight
before Against toporia AND i confused it in my you,
know challenged. Brain there's a fear around this household these, Days,
luke that my short term memory is like scarily.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Gone you know, What my memory, recall except for things
THAT i learned my sophomore year in, college has all but.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Dissolved, YES i always tell my, Family i'm, like don't.
Worry in five, Years i'll be able to tell you
it all. Back Like i've got one of those memories
that it needs years to you, know then it just,
sticks and THEN i can TELL i can recall conversations
from twenty years, ago you know WHAT i? Mean or
maybe it's Ct look who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Right who?

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Knows by the Way Long, Island luke would let us
know that everyone has made weight FOR Ufc vancouver except
For Bruno, silva who has yet to take the. Scale
and of course The manaventures both came in at one
hundred and eighty six POUNDS Rdr Andre Dan allen number
two dead wrong From leo and of Course i'll take
the l in that first. One here For friday's dead.

(01:50:07):
Wrongs let's look back To Monday show WHEN bc stated
Quote holloway has won four of his last five the
only loss being The tuporia, knockout the only time he
was ever. Stopped, God i'm getting hammered.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Here that's.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
YEAH i guess You're Dan. BRIGHT i meant stop by.
STRIKES i DID i really meant that. Butt you're. RIGHT
i didn't clarify. That So holloway was also stopped in
twenty twelve By Dustin pourier in the first fight via arm.
Bar maybe less hot dogs and more reading or even
trying out a few movies with subtitles much, Love, Leo.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
WOW i do like movies with. SUBTITLES i am that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
GUY i gotta take two back to. Back l's, there
BUT i did mean the correct info on the second. One,
whatever Here's devin the third one. Here greetings From canada.
Boys i'm sending in a quick dead wrong For luke From,
monday one hour and eighteen. Minutes luke AND bc are
talking About Boots. Sentace luke says, quote we are now
thirty five years into his career and talks about his best.

(01:51:08):
Wins maybe this was just an, exaggerations but didn't seem
like no, one or didn't seem like. One we can't
be thirty five years into a career because he's only twenty.
Eight if it was an exaggeration for, effect forgive. Me
have a good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
BOYS i did hear, That.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I'll take that al BUT i meant he's got thirty.
Five he's thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Five, yeah, yeah thank. You so those are your l's
for the week we take. Him our final segment is
your opportunity to send in pictures and videos of you
on vacation With saoul's. Wife this one's called. Fansubmissions you've
got mail. Fures speaking of the great Saoul a From, Louisville,

(01:51:46):
kentucky he, says the wife AND i took our yearly.
Vacation this. Year she Chose. Aruba the weather was, great
got to feed a. Flamingo But monday morning at, eleven
my wife, said we're on, vacation get off your. PHONE i,
said damn, Right i'm on. VACATION i do WHAT i.
Want y'all know WHAT i was watching pool. Side we

(01:52:07):
both got ripped off free alcohol and spent the first
night hugging toilets great, times all the while wearing the
best merch in the. GAME L I, l please keep
these pictures. Rolling LT i WAS i follow sewell On.
Instagram he essentially live streamed his entire vacation and he
was WEARING mk clothing the whole. Time and he's not.

(01:52:30):
Wrong they were asleep with their face on the toilet
after that first night of. Drinking it was.

Speaker 16 (01:52:34):
WILD i first of, All i'm happy that they had
a great, time BUT i DON'T i would not want
to put that kind of information out into the.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
World. No, Hey slwool lives under his own set of.

Speaker 11 (01:52:49):
Rules all.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Right you, know you gotta respect. That he's, like, LADY
i do WHAT i want on, vacation all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Right i'm surprised you're not out there vacationing with them
banging his. Girl that is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Okay first of, all that's way too. Far that is
way too far. RIGHT i would never go on vacation with.
Them but the, offer, though is very.

Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
Polite you, know what's that movie with uh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
To me More Indecent?

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Proposal Indecent. Proposal that's the one that was a big
movie when we were, kids.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
That was very. Big that question was being asked by
a lot of couples around that. Time would you take?
Money was That Robert redford who offered?

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
YOU i think that's. RIGHT i think Of Robert redford
and me more, RIGHT i think It's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
Awford Woody harrelson's character like a large sum of money
to sleep with his. Wife yea, check very very indecent.
There but, seriously shout out To sauwel and everyone over
there In, louisville big, fans thank you for wearing our
merch and loving our. Show let's go over To. Alan he,
SAYS i was wondering If luke would ever interview the
insane Clown. POSSE i feel like they would bond over

(01:53:52):
a lot and it would be a great. Conversation keep
donkan donks wow.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Old CAN i don't? Say CAN i name? YES i
THINK i can name. THEM i don't know which one is, Which,
yeah BUT i think they're Violent jay And shaggy too?
Dope is THAT?

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
RW i think that's?

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
CORRECT i?

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
DO i think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Correct i'm not. Sure. Uh you know what's kind of
funny is obviously their music is you, know. Magnets how
do they? Work that's not really for, me But i've,
Heard I've I've i've this is not kind of, weird but, Okay,
no the PEOPLE i follow On, instagram certain rappers who
have performed, there like for, example are The Rugged? Man for,

(01:54:36):
EXAMPLE i do Like. Ara he raves about The, juggalos
he raves about the gathering of The. Juggalos he loves,
Them so you know, WHAT i. Don't you, know they're
kind of an easy thing to to. Mock but If
ara likes, Them i'll holster my. Insults you know What i'm?

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Saying, Wow, Wow i'm not a big fan OF i
MEAN i would try Some fago look for? Sure right
would you on A quervo? Episode poor beautifully Tasting quervo
tequila inside the chaser Of fago red soda icp.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Sto uh ummm sure bring?

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Some, OKAY i don't know if we can get some
In New, york But i'll be looking to do that Next,
wednesday for. Sure our next fan submission comes from Jonas
he says new have you seen this? Ship intro With
luke screaming bitches like an o gunk? Unk, sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
WHOA i don't quite get THE i look LIKE i
am a lumberjack hitting a vape next to the twin.
Tower can you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Play that one more? Time imagine if this week and
now we throw two this week's have you seen this?

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Ship that IS i don't do it next to the twin.
Towers we, see BUT i might waken big a little
bit like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
That you know What i'm, Saying, Hey Long, Island, luke
would it be disrespectful for that to be our New hysts?

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Intro it wouldn't be disrespect it would be disrespectful to
the original guy who made that, intro because that intro is.
CLASSIC i just got to, say but, Uh jonas credit to.
You that was fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
Hilarious all, right all.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
RIGHT i mean we're honoring the, victims of, course.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Are.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
We our final one comes From john who has no.
Comment let's, See, yes, yes that is. TRUE i have,
UH i have poet on my own liver through the.
Days well, WAY i haven't had a hot dog in
at least like four, years and that's the longest.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Stretch, no you haven't had any any sausage of any?

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Kind, well are you talking about food or What i'm?

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Saying, okay well that's another. Kind are You you haven't had, like,
uh like?

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Gumbo, NO i have had, sausage BUT i haven't had
an actual hot dog since my. Diagnosis, okay all, right,
yeah that's right. On AND i don't know about the pasty.
Part but that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
On, yeah, yeah, brother you. ARE i, mean of all
the things you've ever been wrong, on that might be the. Worst.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
LOOK i know there's people out there that agree with.
ME i know there, IS i know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
It we got one final video from, him had the
shit of a lifetime AND i was, like oh my fucking,
god where AM i going to? Go nineteenth and m there's,
like it's just. Businesses there just no like, like you're fucked.
Right SO i just Saw joseph a bank AND i was, Like,
Yo i'm looking for a, tuxedo, RIGHT i gotta give
him some excuse and, like but FIRST i need to
go to your bathroom and they're, like, oh you have

(01:57:48):
to use the employee won in the bathroom a triple.
Flusher you're. Fired it's, like, uh you could just leave
your key card at.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
The, front, yes, yes, yes, Wow, wow there it. Is
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this week on your?

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
CHANNEL i don't know If i'm doing a live watch
along On, saturday probably, not But i'm definitely gonna have
coverage On.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Sunday all, Right, well now will that, be you, know
in place of spending time with your.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
FAMILY i don't know how you do, both so But
i'll give them My saturday as BEST i, can because
The saturday after that one IS ufc three twenty, one
AND i am going to tell my family to hit
the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
Road yeah one That's Long Island luke's. Style tell the
tell the lady you're on your.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Own you, know we were going to have a normal
human relationship and. Interaction hit the.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Bricks she's on vacation this, weekend so for, ONCE i
actually yeah the note up from. Me, NOW i do
have the full card fully ready to, go so you,
Know i'll be There, saturday four Pm. Eastern also lt
Verus Danny segura coming up in a half hour.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
On that's quite quite the. Performance let's.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Go let's see who's gonna end up playing me for the.
Championship that's WHAT i want to, know, Right i'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
This you, see here's my. Hint brush up on Your.
Spanish you know What i'm?

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
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