UFC Vegas 110: Garcia vs. Onama Recap | Cortes-Acosta KOs Delija & Dulgarian-Del Valle Odds Shift - MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELL

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It's Monday, November third, twenty five and this is Morning Combat,
the combat sports show to end all other shows. Thank

(00:49):
you very much. Hey, I'm Brian Campbell. I've and director
in Manhattan's Metal Arcs Studios, and next to me is
my co host with the most He is a DC resident.

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With the least amount of sleep, a.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Native of India. Not the old Deli, the new one.
It's Luke Thomas. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
You ever heard that cattle decapitation song finish them?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yes, they do when they close the show with that. Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well the opening words fire.

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I yeah, it warms the cockles of my heart.

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Yes, yes, keyword cock. Thank you very much. Hey, we
got a weird show for you today, as always right, it.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Was UFC wear not weird to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, it was a weird UFC warehouse card over the
Saturday at the Apex which turned into ipokes failed parlays.
The FBI might be getting involved, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Also, and also I don't want to bury the part
of the story here too, which is poor Steve Garcia.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, handah knight Steve Garcia.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
The odds were relatively close.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
If I recall for the main event, he walked Onama, yeah,
into the woodshed, battered him and not.

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A soul ass talk. I mean, we're gonna talk about today,
but basically nobody's talking about it.

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Well, it's the only thing we have to talk about
outside of anyone associated with James Krause.

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Can I tell you Halloween was a big success? Oh,
the Tukes in the Thomas household. Yes, the in laws
from Columbia flew up. We had a bunch of them there.

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How is their oblo englace?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
So the ones who flew up all speak. That's not
always the case, but in this particular case it was okay.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well it was a little shaky, but.

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If you get angry, you can't like drop an MF
or and they wouldn't know what you're talking.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
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Speaker 1 (02:29):
It was cursing English to their face where they thinking.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh no, they'll know. I mean, I mean unless I
had some kind of like brain rod.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Six seven or something like that, they wouldn't know. But anyway, dude,
we it worked. My daughter was it was you remember
you told me my daughter was Mira from K pop
Demon Hunters.

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Of course, who doesn't know that the stat dude.

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If you had a little kid, you would know, trust me,
it was that. It was funny because there was a
bunch of Miras who walked by on the street and
my daughter was Ice grilling them, being like, yo.

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Who the fuck gave this bitch mission ship to be
another mirror?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I was. I shouldn't say that, but that was anyway.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
It was a huge success and thanks all my friends
who showed up, and thanks all the people who were
nice to my daughter for many.

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I didn't get a single single trigger treater and I
loved it. It was great.

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Just a disgusting that was left over.

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from the movie theater, so you can get a big
ass popcorn? What's your what's your go to? The popcorn
and the slushy.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm a slushy guy. Don't to the popcorn unless unless
I have the option of the hole in the bottom.
And you're like, you're on a hot.

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Raisin nuts? And and I love getting the icy even
though it's like fifteen.

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And I was like, oh, do I dare? But I didn't.

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growing up, weren't allowed to get movie theater food because
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That's what I'm talking about. That prepared me for my
future life. Right there, we're gonna have a show for
you today that maybe interesting. I did have to prep
Luke that my batch of shit this week. I don't
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Well, everyone sends me the same clips that we've already
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but they're just there wasn't a lot of great clips
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same nine to eleven? Just really, I will say I
do what I got.

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I watched them fall off the motorphile. We got a
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It's an attraction, all right. Hey, you know what I'm
attracted to? Cage fighting. So let's hit it off here
with topic number one. Hey, everybody. In Saturday's UFC Fight
Night Warehouse main event, it was a battle of top
fifteen ranked featherweights to at least in theory, produce another
contender eventually for this title in a division that is
turning over, Well, you need the contender. We might have

(10:03):
one here in thirty three year old New Mexican Steve Garcia,
who bulldozed right through David Onama within minutes to claim
not just his seventh win in a row, but his
sixth knockout on that stretch, giving him fourteen knockouts and
nineteen career wins, but more importantly, knocking on the door
now of the top ten and legitimate title contention here

(10:25):
at the one four five Luke the Southpaul came out
throwing heavy combos when he had Onama hurt, stepped up
the uppercuts and he got him out of there. So,
what if anything did we learn about Garci on Saturday?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Can we long on? Look?

Speaker 5 (10:40):
We put up on the screen some of the stats
from our friend. This is, by the way, you guys
don't know the guy at the top of the screen,
Michael Carroll. That's MJC flipped the script. He is a
what they used to call fight Metric now they call
thirty twenty seven. The guys behind the stats at UFC.
This is one of the top guys. If you don't
follow him, you should. You get a lot of cool information.
Look at this most featherweight knockouts where to Steve Garcia

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rank just behind Chad Mendez and ahead of du hoo CHOI.
I'm not saying that the run is exactly equivalent, but
the amount of just we've talked about this before, just
the ability to string that many wins.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I give you that stat where he's number one all
time in.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
And then longest active UFC win streaks at featherweight. Where
is Steve Garcia at six seven fight with UFC win
streak overall? Because I think the other one was a
contender series. If I'm not mistaken in any event, look.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
What he's doing.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
He's doing some of the most impressive work of literally
anyone in this division at the present moment. That doesn't
put him at the top of the division, but his
streak is simply undeniable.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Be see.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
And I do think that you know, we were trying
to hedge on Friday because we want to give respect
to Onama, but I think what we talked about on
Friday ended up being true. Is it not the case?
Do you not feel like watching Garcia? Do he just
knocks on the door so many times eventually you're gonna
answer and get caught with something Onama to me, you.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Don't get him off your porch. Someone's getting pregnant.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
You got to tell him no, no passing out flyers
on property, because if once he steps on there, you're
buying whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
He's solicitation, that's right.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
No solicitation. It honestly is true.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
He'll throw hand in foot combinations, he'll add a little extra,
he finishes with the hook, you know, he inside cutkicks
and then ads. He's always stacking things on top of
the original offense that he throws because if the first
or the second, even the third thing doesn't work, the
fourth just might you marry that with the pressure that
you talked about BC, Dude, he just buzz sought him.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Pop quiz.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
How many strikes total, significant or otherwise did David o'ama
land in this fight?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'd guess four two wow two.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
He landed two forty three total for Steve Garcia, thirty
three of which were significant, meaning there's approximate distance there. Dude,
that is I mean, this is a shalalacking by any measurement,
statistical or observational.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Let me ask you, this as great of a night
if it was as it was for Garcia, it was
equally as bad for Anama who'd never got out of
first gear. Was that because he chose to counter and
start late or did he just get straight up overwhelm
by what Garcia brought to them? The team?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
So I think this was a problem I'd seen in
previous fights, because this.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Was five round fight for two guys that had never
hadline before.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
That's right, this is something that I had seen in
previous fights, but I thought that he was out growing
it where he takes I'm not you can call him
a slow starter, but I think a better way to
describe it BC is he's just a little bit more
judicious with his offense. He can throw a lot in
volume sometimes, but he sometimes takes a little bit longer

(13:30):
to set it up and really commit, whereas Garcia doesn't
do that. He has a he One of the things
that's very impressible with Steve Garcia to me is he's
able to find offensive rhythm very quickly right. It doesn't
take him a while to kind of settle into it.
He seems to like land in the groove without much
friction about a minute minute thirty and he's already in play.

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Plus he's a devastating finisher. His finishing instincts are phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Opercuts were on point.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
He can cover distance with them too. He's he's kind
of ranging you with that, which can get you into trouble,
but it certainly didn't in this fight. So I just
mean he seems to understand the moment, which I really
appreciate about him. He understands that this is an offense
first sport. He acts like it. And for David o'nama,
you can play that game plan that he does if
you're someone like i Isy where you're really deterring them
either with strikes or feints or movement, or you can

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just command range a little bit better. Onama doesn't do
that as well, and you saw what happened as a consequence.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Wow, Long Island. Luke reminding us that it's a six
fight winster get featherweight because the Melchie Coast To fight
was a one off at lightweight, so overall we are
seeing it. Sorry, Yes, such a breakthrough for Garcia going
from the cater decision win to now a look, this
is what you want to this is what you ask
of guys who are in the headlining spot for the
first time. And while this was a little bit of

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who's that guy if you weren't a hardcore fan, or
maybe even if you were, it's great that Steve Garcia
told you exactly who he is in less than one round.
As you would say after the fight, you know, what
do you say? My daddy told me to go bring
violence in there, so I had to listen to him. Ultimately,
at the end of the day, a new Mexico guy,
an Albuquerque guy, Johnson Wink right, and Jackson Wink excuse me,

(15:08):
and the corner with him right, along with his father
as well. So at thirty three. As we talked about
on Friday, it took him a little while to getting gear.
He lost two of his first three UFC fights, but
the escalation has been perfect. Did he show you with
a win on Sara that will likely propel him into
the top ten that he's a future title contender, Luke.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I think that's getting a little bit ahead of ourselves
right now.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You don't know what you don't know until you see it.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Yeah, I mean, listen, he's currently sitting at twelve. They
have an update of the rankings, right, so they will,
but you know ahead of him would be Patricio, at
least as it stands presently, Patricio, jay On Silva, Josh Evan,
Brian Ortega, yuse of Sola, dude, there are a lot
of names in front of him. I mean, he's got
he's got work to do. This was a great win
to get inside the top ten, which he and Onama

(15:56):
had kind of prefaced or I should say expected on
during fight week. They had said as much. This was
about getting into the top ten. Mission accomplished. Here's what
I can say, BC, He's earned a fight with someone
where you're not gonna have the same reaction you did
in this fight, where you're like, okay, Steve Garcia. I'm
kind of excited about him. Yeah, I respect Onnama, but
I don't know what this fight is. His next opponent's

(16:17):
gonna have a name, he's gonna have extra juice. He's
earned it. You can't say anything other than this guy
did everything he was supposed to and then some. He
has earned the right to fight someone that fans can
be invested in.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, I mean I'm in I want to see more
of it. Here's Garcia talking about now he did call
Max Holloway for the BMF title in the cage. Here's
him further after the fight, talking about obviously with Max
being a lightweight, but that's a BMF fight. Here's what
he wants next within the division.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
He called out Max Holloway.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
If you don't get that fight, is there someone.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
Else in the top fifteen that you'd like to throw
hands with?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (16:53):
Man, I think I think the I think one fight
that makes a lot of sense is probably Josh Emmett.
I mean, he has a name on him, He definitely
is uh has a higher ranking than I do, and
I kind of felt like, I think he's available, So
why not, you know what I mean this to try
to set something up, you know, beginning of next year.
I think that'd be that'd be a fun fight.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'll fight the law.

Speaker 10 (17:14):
That's not That's not the issue. The whole thing is
is name recognition.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know Zo Law just.

Speaker 10 (17:19):
Beat Emmett did a fantastic job of that, but I
still feel like em may have a little bit more
name value than maybe's the law. You know what I
mean that It means means the law will probably cross
pass there's no doubt about it. I just fought his teammate,
you know what I mean. So he's probably already game
planning to fight fight me at some point if we
If it happens, it happens, you know what I mean.
I'm not I'm not scared of anybody. I'll go out

(17:41):
there and I'll fight you know whoever, I'll fight him.
I'll fight three people in a night. I don't care.
If that's what they want me to do, That's what
I'll do. But the reason why I say m is because,
like I said, he has name recognition.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
He's I like that call out. Okay, veteran name power,
name value. Now the fight though, could maybe take him
to the top faster.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
And by the way, both of those fights, can you
say they'd be anything other than bangers?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
No, Because like we HADENTI fight on Friday, you got
two guys who are deserved right now of a title shot.
That's Laren Murphy and that's Eve Looev. But you've got
that next group of al Joe of zilal of who's
the third that I'm forgetting.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
I've got the rankings here, so you got Arnold Allen
Stern Murphy third one at that point, everyone else seems
to be sort of a retread on the way back. Yeah,
because then it goes or Tega, Emmett, jay On Silva,
Patricio Jan Silva.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Is the other wild card in there, which we expect
him to bounce back, but interesting stuff that would be Look.
I hope he gets a quick turnaround too. I hope
they put him on a pay per view card in
a key spot dealing with that power of Emmett, with
that style. That'd be fun to see here.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
No, I mean again, there's a bunch of different I
like that call out. I like the Zolall fight, the
Max Holloway one.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I didn't love it because I thought that would
have to be a lightweight. But you're saying we're gonna
hear different.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I believe he called him out. He wants it at
forty five.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Max, don't fight at forty five anymore.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
What are you gonna say there, Long Island? You gotta
say something.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I was just throwing up the tweet for you all.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
There it is, Steve Garcia calls out Max Holloway for
a BMF title fight, calling it the Rocky Balboa story quote.
I want the Rocky Balboa story. I want the one
with Max Holloway and the BMF title. I want that
BMF Max Holloway champion. Did he clarify at fifty five?
I mean it doesn't really matter, but.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Why would Max cut back down?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Next, I think he mistakenly thought Max was still at forty.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Oh, I see, Okay, that's that's where.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
There are a lot of fighters who don't seem to
follow the fight game.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
You know, like they fight as an occupation, but they're
not follow their own game. They're not fight fans. They
don't follow the sport at all. Yeah, I mean they
don't respect that.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, maybe they're not missing much. I don't know right there,
but along, look, we have respect for year takes as well.
How impressed were you by Garcia?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
All right, I've been impressed with Garcia for a while now,
so I don't want to say I wasn't impressed with him.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I was.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
To me, it was more, oh god, what what is
wrong with David o'ama? I felt like he was just
not himself?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Don't you feel like though that in retrospect, we should
have We did see that. We all, I think we
all thought Garcia was gonna win, but I'm saying, in
retro respect, shouldn't we have seen that Garcia's forward, pressure,
knock on the door style of offense would be a
bad matchup actually for Oama in the end.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Sure, I think the fact that it was five rounds,
the fact that Oama had never been finished before were
making me a little weary because I'm like, oh, Steve
Garcia can't get him out of there?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
How does this look after five rounds?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
But he very clearly showed well.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I think Oama got hurt by that first left hand,
and I think he was playing catch up the rest
of that round until the stoppage. Unfortunately for him, he
had a four fight win streak coming in, had one
six to seven. The only loss was that majority decision,
lost Fight of the Night to Nate the Train. Uh so, yeah,
he kind of just got buzz on. It was.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Garcia is the living embodiment of fortune favors the bold.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I mean, that is who he is.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
That's how he fights against a skilled operator who knows
how to deal with pressure. Now that's gonna be a
different story, right, I think that's what we're gonna have
to really see what he's made of.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I mean, what what which man Arnold Allen would be
a tough fight for.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
That's a tough fight. That's Arl Allen knows how to
absorb pressure.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dude, what is going on with our island in front
of the program. But like I'm not sure, not healthy,
like because I feel like he's I feel like he
should have already fought for a title. I know he
had key losses to both Eve Loev and Max Holloway,
in which the Max holly one he fought his.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Hard out ere you know, urged late.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Really if he if he only hadn't surged in the
fifth round and started in the fourth round, he may
have won that fight. But it feels like like it's
not that he's the young Crown champion, but that he's
the young Crown key contender that has yet to fully
fully get that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, I'm not sure what to say about it, except.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, maybe get Pacer to put a little more
of than Zingers in he Yeah, thank you, thank you
very much. Right there, so like exciting main event in
which the bigger headlines were I holes and A holes.
But uh yeah here we go here. Hey, it's not
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Yes?

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Speaker 1 (24:30):
Hey, let's go to topic number two here, Annie up, well,
Annie down as well? Uh what a wild heavyweight co
main event there on Saturday night in the Warehouse Auntie Delia, Hey,
is he going to deliver a second straight knockout and
put himself closer to making this heavyweight title picture more
difficult with his teammate Tom Aspinall at the top. No,

(24:50):
he didn't, even though it looked like he scored a
TKO stoppage along the cage against Waldo Cortes a Costa.
There was an eye poke in the midst of that.
It's what happened next that was, let's say it bizarre,
maybe even against the rules, but referee Mark Smith looked
like he was jumping in and waving off the fight.
Near the end of round one. You had the corners,

(25:12):
the cutman in the cage, the cage side doctor. Only
Ultimately the fight was not roomed, ruled over, it was restarted,
and once it was restarted, Waldo Court has a coastal
uncurked a just a beautiful looping counter right hand that
dropped Delia and quickly led to a knock out finish.
So is it not clear the commission didn't obey the

(25:36):
rules here? Is this what probably should have happened even
if they The way that we got there didn't really
clear protocols? Lt. How do you sort of weigh in
here on one of the more bizarre things, because I
got some people say, well, Smith never waved it off,
look like you freaking waved it off. Okay, And while
I'm happy that they got it right, you got to

(25:56):
give Waldo credit for being dramatic, but I'm not even
sure how many rules they broke on the way getting there.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Dude, how weird is this situation that Ante Delia or
Delia excuse me, I know where keeps saying it wrong.
Who is the teammate of tom Aspinall. Tom Aspinall has
this terrible controversy where he gets pegged as somebody who
quits and fights right and don't.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Forget what uh Deliah said during media day there yea,
I was going to.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Get right to it, which is he's like, I've had
thirty three fights, I've never poked someone in the eye,
and very next fight, just days later, he pokes someone
in the eye and then gets finished as a consequence. Worse,
the guy who got poked in the eye decided to
continue and then won via a knockout, making tom Aspinall.
Whether it's fair or not, I'm not saying it's fair.
I'm just saying, from a perception standpoint, for those who

(26:39):
wish to see it this way, a terrible look for
tom Aspinall.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
And they're dunking on him. Al Jo's dunk on it all.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Him, dude, tom Aspitaal has suffered. It's kind of funny, right,
like he was maybe due for a correction because he
was surfing off of the John Jones ducking thing for
so long, but now he has to stand on his
own two feet. And again, we've been over this a
million times. He's just kind of struggled with it, whether
that was a fair perception or not. Okay, putting that aside, BC,
that's just let's just talk about that being weird as

(27:07):
shit already in terms of the coincidence of it all.
Then we get to the point, how is that what.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
What Delia did? DELI excuse me?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
How is that intervention by the referee there anything other
than a TKO? I don't understand it. And if it
was a TKO, how the hell can you restart it?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Hello? You cannot?

Speaker 5 (27:27):
I guess they're saying officially it wasn't one, even though
they kind of treated it like one. More to the point,
as Aaron bron Saidter pointed out on Twitter, even if
it wasn't a TKO, they Mark Smith, the referee had
brought in people into the cage.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
They acted like the fight or the who was not
allowed to be there.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
So to me, it's like listen, having watched it, right,
because here's what you're up against if you just watch
it and you don't know the rules. And I said
to you, Oh, yeah, it looks like this fight was over,
but the guy got poked in the eye. They want
to do right by him and let the fight continue.
You might be tempted to say these terms are acceptable.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I was in the moment. I'm like, yeah, let's call.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
The pure fairness of it irrespective of the rules, because
weren't you mad?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
You felt bad for Waldo as it was happening, because
you're like, he obviously got poked, he covered up, and
they still called the fight.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
You know what I'm saying is in terms of just
like giving Cortes a Costa a shot, You're like, I
have no problem with this, But in terms of following protocol,
I don't understand how they did any of that Long Island, Luke,
What did we miss with this situation? Are we not
right that they called it basically or treated like a TKO?
They brought in the wrong amount of people. I'm not
even sure instant replay allows them to make that kind

(28:44):
of call, to go from a TKO to a temporary
stoppage due to ipoke.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
How did you read that the whole thing was a debacle?

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Dude?

Speaker 6 (28:52):
First of all, Cortes a Costa when he gets hit
with the ipoke immediately is holding his eyes like trying
to stop the fight and he's just getting.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
But guys do that all the time. That's not that
big a deal, right, And he took the risk.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Of it, of losing BYJKO by doing that, you know, yes, yes,
that's true.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
On one hand, maybe there's an argument that Mark Smith
is like notices the ipoke and jumps in to not
wave it off but pause it.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
But he waits for him to get.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Hit like twenty more times before doing that, which is
clearly he screwed up.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
And caught himself in the moment. Let's be fair.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
It's it's one of those fights where I feel like
Delhia probably has a legit chance to get it overturned.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
That's what I think too.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
It he actually put out, I think we have a
statement right from Delia Delia.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, but it's part of our segment, you know, oh.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Right, right right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
In fact, let's get to that right now, because there
were some comments made afterwards against aspinall against each other.
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that invented tequila. Whether or not it was handled correctly,
you got to give Waldo Cortez a coaster credit for
two things. One for regrouping himself after the eye poke
and getting the the unlikely KO since he's not even
looked at it as a big KO puncher. Two going
right for the juggular, not only calling a fight for
a fight against tom As Ball, but proceeding to then

(30:17):
dunk on him afterwards. We'll get to the Delia comments first.
Here is a coaster. Were you just calling him out
as you felt like you wanted to get that shot
or were you calling him out because you were able
to continue from the I poke?

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah, this is is for the hanging to be a
champion and the hank quick because the pokey the eye
two and the and the third two because the hen
is a training partner and the I do it will
hang like a knock him mom with the first round.
Why is it happening that me and Thomas been a
fight because he say don't if you're not. This is

(30:53):
that one of the best twining partner hanking can can
have it.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
What happened to.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
By the way, Waldo Cortez would say the F word
at least thirty seven times on that post. It was great.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Now we have a reaction here from Anti Delhia, who
put this on Instagram. It's very small writing, but there's
a bunch of points here.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
We'll get my glasses.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Oh now I can see I'm not sure if I
hit him in the eye. I think it's near the eye.
And of course I want a video where you can
see the staying correctly. But then he writes, first of all,
the referee did not show time out, but stopped the
fight and therefore declared me the winner. That decision can
cannot be changed. Later too, the opponent sat and relaxed
while watching the footage for more than a few minutes.

(31:39):
Three replay used after the interruption, which rules do not
allow at that one. I need to verify. And then,
after all, he says, the fight continued irregularly. I ask
for nothing, just honesty. I don't run from defeat. I
respect every opponent and every outcome, but not when the
rules are broken and I'm robbed.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Not in this way.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
The sport hasn't seen the US yet.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, it didn't seem like all of his points were accurate,
but his larger point of hey, this is in protocol
is true. Don't you feel like with the pay per
view the week before having so many referee points being
taken away which is what we want, and with the
news that we'll get to that herb Dean said publicly
there's going to be some form or meeting on I
poking that it feels like behind the scenes, even though
UFC doesn't control the referees, right the commissions do somebody,

(32:24):
whether it's the UFC TKO or the commissions, are saying
we've got an issue here, We've got to do things
more judiciously or more I don't know what you would say,
because again they got to the right result here, which
is very good, but we didn't really they.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Got to a result that seems pleasing that when you
say right result, the right results so meaning bad result
would have the natural like you know, adherents, which I'm
not sure that.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
They to me, a bad result would have been that
a first round tique well, I don't know would it
have been because Waldough even if he got poked, and
even if the referee didn't see it. You can't just
cover up what which is what he did? Yes, opening
the door for that tea ko knockout. So maybe it wasn't.
Maybe it's not a right or wrong thing in that case.
But you feel overall like there's a larger pressure on
the officials to not create moments which this inevitably created.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Anyway, I don't think there's any question in my mind
they don't want to make I mean, this is the thing, right,
I've said this before. Football, American football creates mechanisms for people,
for the officiating crew to get some of these decisions
right when they miss it initially, right upon further review,
blah blah blah. They've got a series of mechanisms to
fix that. But of course you're also if you're a

(33:32):
referee calling an NFL game, you're making one hundred calls
that day, and the other referees are making another fifty.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's just continuous.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
In MMA, you're making maybe two three calls at most
during a fight, I mean sometimes none at all. So
they just don't want to get it wrong. So I
understand them being looking at this and being like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Put the opposite is ipoke. They used to do it
the other way. They were so passive they didn't want
to become the story. Yeah, now there's like this over
correction where now they're like so hands on.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
And this is the problem with the government regulating it,
which is like, I think people can look at the
result and be like, Okay, I like the spirit of
what they did, but you're not adhering to the policy.
But changing the policy is actually a lot more difficult
than people realize. You'd have to go through all fifty
states to change it. There wouldn't be just NFL can decide, hey,
we're gonna have kickoffs of the forty yard line next
year and then that's it.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
As if it wasn't confusing enough a couple of years ago,
remember where the state commissions had different rules and they'd
have to announce it at the beginning of the telecast
that we're in this state, so it means this is
legal and this isn't, which is just bizarre.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Hand down in this state, knee down in that state. Right,
But like.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Okay, but it also feels like they kind of got
it right, or did they? There feels like there's a
case here, what look, you don't need a lene us
more set to tell you how ironic it was that
that it would be Delhia making that comment regarding the
Asphaal flight than him being the offender. But he's saying, look,
I need proof that I actually penetrated. Did the Was
it conclusive enough to you that this was obviously at

(34:51):
hypoke conclusive enough? Like I don't know the deep damage.
It wasn't knuckle deep like as it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
I mean it did look look, can I be honest?
I mean, I'm not a doctor. I'm not saying it
was better or worse. It certainly looked worse than Aspinall's
did it not.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, dude, no one's even Asproall got two of them, dude,
and one of them was like.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
I'm saying, but Acosta after the fight had like one eye,
you know, kind of mangled. You could see it in
that video clip that we showed. I don't know if
you can put up a screenshot or not, or you
can stop the video like pretty quickly there. We just
look at that fucking eye. I mean, that's clearly a
messed up.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Somehow, that's not as bad as DC's I in the
apex and that steep.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
He fucking he crossed one of them. More. Yeah, that
was a terrible eye like he.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Could have been fighting for the Strawway Championship soon with
eyes like that, light open under the We're just all right,
all right, let's continue this. We've got Cortes a Costa
doubling down on whatever one's doing, somehow mocking aspinall through
all of this. Uh, here's the new avatar on Instagram

(36:02):
of Waldough Cortez the Coast with the eye patch. Tom
had played. You know, Tom had played into the joke
for his Halloween thing putting on the eye patch. We
saw John Jones on a white horse with an eye
patch at the Dirty Boxing Way ins this week? Are
we not like this isn't directly related to Tom and
trying to say, well, look, Waldough finished the fight. Tom
could have or should have. That was a title fight.

(36:23):
He got two fingers, one of them was knuckled deep. Dude,
enough said, enough fucking said.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Okay, I'm just saying it's quite obvious at this point.
It's not a small amount of people, it's not just
one segment of fans. I'm not endorsing it, but I'm
saying you've got fighters and fans in unison, whether the
majority or just a vocal minority, Clearly the knives are
out for tom Aspinall. Yeah, clearly the knives are out,

(36:50):
and it's up to him. Ultimately, he's the only one
who can stop this. You can lecture the fans are
not gonna listen. You can lecture the fighters are not
gonna listen, and you might be wrong anyway. So that's
the point. The only for tom Aspinall to beat this
is in his next fight to go in there and
just fucking dominate and then everyone will be like okay, okay, okay, okay.
But until then he's gonna have to eat shit. That's
just what's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, Delia ate Ship in a fight
that we thought was gonna propel him forward. I can't
believe he got Kot on that shot, but it was
just I wonder about that.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
He looks chubby.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yes, he can cover distance, as we saw in his
loss with Pavlovitch. He'll get in there in trade like
he's not afraid.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Of He's sneaky a little bit quire big Assi boy.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
So a bad turn of events there for Delia in
so many ways. But if he gets it overturned, it
shouldn't hurt him in the long run. Also, the division
is so shallow that he should be able to bounce back.
But on the flip flive for Waldo six wins in
seven fights only that lost to Pavlovich over three rounds
in his last fight. I like the spontaneity of the
call out for Aspinall. He's not gonna get that next.

(37:50):
They're gonna do gon Aspenhall rematch. It felt like Volkoff
put himself in position to be next. Next. You want
to do? What's the reward here?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Volkov Waldo?

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Well, if you look the heavyweight rankings, what are we
gonna say along Island, I'm gonna say.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
I know Delia is like a more exciting fighter, but
like this is arguably better for the division that Cortez
a Costa one. Delia and Aspinall both said they won't
fight each other. We do need new contenders, like I'll
take Salsa Boy. Maybe not next in a title shop,
you know, but like he.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Lost to Pavlovich, so does Pavlovich get to rematch Volkov first?

Speaker 5 (38:22):
I feel like Volkov is in the cat bird seed.
I think maybe you could do Pavlovich cortez A Costa again,
although that would be too quick turn around.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Where's Curtis Blades right now? He probably a.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Blade seems like the one for me that makes the
most sense.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Again, I don't know his availability or whatever, but that'd
be a fresh matchup. That'd be a fun one too. Again,
old cortez A Costa will put one on you. You're
not looking right.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
So does he get I guess a good one. By
whom does Waldo get to a freaking title shot? Because
I've been cheering for him the last few fights. He's
fun to.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Watch, Honestly, I think if he wins one more, yes,
because again, if Aspinall keeps winning, which is a big if,
but if he does, they're gonna be running out of
contenders fast.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Well, they do have John and Perreira who will probably
fight it.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Who cannot count on either of them to be their
long term You just can't.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
This is not going to happen. Yeah, wow, I mean
you could try.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I guess you could try right there. What a wild
fricking turn of events in the Apex. You were not
watching live.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Were you? I was checking in periodically, but I was
with my family for once.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
It's very nice of you, real family man.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
We went to fog to chow on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
The hell is to show?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Is that a Brazilian steakhouse?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah? No, yeah, you ever been?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I've heard you mention it though.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, it's okay. I went to the one at the wharf.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
It was all right, like they're just bringing by strips.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Of me and your pie.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
It's like a really nice restaurant. But it's just food
in bulk, and anytime food is in bulk.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You're going to blow up a commodi.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Well that and also how good can it be if
they've got a bunch of it? Right, I mean that's
sort of the whole point anyway.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Alight, all right, there we go. Hey, let's move on
to topic number three, where the strangeness only continued on Saturday,
and you wonder if this is going to turn into
something much, much bigger surrounding Isaac Dulgarian who Ariel Hawani
of un Crowned reported overnight that he he was released
from the organization following what took place a first round

(40:05):
submission loss to Yadia del Valley. But the whole theme
coming in here was Dulgarian, who by the way, is
as a highly rated prospect, and some are reporting that
he had re signed with the UFC before the bout
came in there as the favorite, the line changed within
the last hour aggressively. We're seeing reports that certain casinos

(40:25):
got five giant bets put in that would be a
first round to stoppage loss for him. And then not
only does that first round stoppage loss play out, you
had Daniel Cormier in real time and then Michael Kisa
after the fight just going ham on the idea that
Dulgarian was using almost you know, white belt techniques to
try to fight off basic moves that led to this,

(40:48):
and then you find out Oh Dulgarian used to work
with training with James Krause, and Oh Dulgarian was on
the MME Junkie podcast this week this past week arguing
that fighters should get three percent of every bet placed
on them. Luke, there's a lot of smell on these
fish right now. Can we connect all the dots? As
we're fresh off the Chauncey Billips NBA betting scandal, that

(41:10):
Pablo Torre in the Seat played a big role.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
In finding out about it.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
This seemed super serious as the extension of what we
saw from Jeff Molina James Krausston out of this Yes.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Now again, a lot of what has known in public
is what is being alleged. In terms of what we know,
we are still in a bit of a finding out face.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Let's bring in.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
We have to have him here, Come on on the microphone, here,
Long Island. Let's talk this through. You heard BC setup.
That's basically what happened, right. You had Dulgarian as a
pretty decent favorite, about a minus two fifty or so,
and then about an hour before the about the lines shifted.
Would you describe how much they shifted as unusual?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, so they went.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
He was like minus two seventy and right before the
fight he was like minus one sixty. Everyone in my
chat was calling it out. They were like, look at
this Dovia line, he's moving. People were like, I got
Delbai plus two twenty five, now he's plus one forty
or whatever.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
How much movement before a fight is common, like fractional amount.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Fifteen points in either direction?

Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yeah, nothing anything more than like fifty points is like,
WHOA A lot of money's coming in on this.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Okay, so when you saw that, what reaction did you have?

Speaker 6 (42:16):
I was torn because they took all the props off
the fight. They only had the money line bets, and
I was like, I was doing a climb bet thing.
I needed to pick the next fight, so I just
chose Dulgarian, which was obviously stupid.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
But uh, if the props were there, You're damn right.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
I would have probably taken a first round finish just
because of all the buzz around it leading up to
the fight.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Oh so you were trying to cash in on it.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Yeah, but also it was like it was clear as
day for anyone who gambles, Like everyone was noticing it.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Everyone was talking about it, so like we kind of
saw it coming.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Now, when you say on the mic, now, when you
saw the fight, did your spidy census tingle?

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Only when there's he goes for almost called it Mike Davis.
He looks a lot like Mike Davis at it goes
for like a double leg and uh freaking delvia. He
gets these under hooks on him and they're like so over.
He has his arms almost behind his back and like
a full nelson, but like forward.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It was I've never seen that in an MMA fight,
and I was like.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
Oh, that looks weird, Like how good is this guy's
takedown defense that he's like pushing him like?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Or how strong is he? Like?

Speaker 6 (43:17):
But I didn't think anything of the rest of the
fight per se up until all the backlash after it.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Now, if it's a fix he did put in the
acting time of trying to fight it off, it's just
that DC was calling out a little.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Bit but his hand fighting. Again, if I didn't know
anything and I just watched the fight, I'd be like,
he's injured or he sucks. But that's this is the
interesting part about Dulgarian. He's twenty nine years of age. Dude,
this was a hyped prospect for a while, Like he's
not a bomb as a fighter any and we.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Just have like a split decision lost to Christian Rodriguez.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
Or something that yeah, Sea Rod was his only Sea
Rod beats all the undefeated guys he was under.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
But okay, fine, you lost to a guy who's also
pretty good or at least in those spots can be
you know, really really challenging. And then this happen. And
I mean, here's what I'm gonna say. There's a lot
We simply don't know. We don't know if there's a
paper trail, we don't know if there is an investigation
be launched. I did see some people suggesting as much
on social media. I'm not saying that those suggestions or

(44:14):
reports are wrong.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
I'm not in anybody.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
My view is, if you're gonna make big claims, you
have to have big evidence. But that doesn't mean what
they're suggesting is wrong.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It's not what I suggested that there's an FBI trail
looking into this sun and jumped in and like push back.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
He said, I hope that there is only for one reason.
And let's just make this very clear. For all of
this to work, where you're gonna have, you know, these
leagues and they're gonna have betting and whatnot, and here
we're a part of.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
This too, this only works if it's above board.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
This only works if people can trust the integrity of it.
This only works under very very controlled, tight circumstances. And
to the extent and again, still a lot we don't know,
but it doesn't look great.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
And to the extent that there is something fishy about it,
it has.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
To be investigated well. Had the FBI must look into this.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Especially in light of the NBA scandal.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Now, even if that didn't happen, but to your pointy.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Especially in light of the James Krause, Jeff Molina, and
then there was a there was another fight, so there.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Was a there was I forget what year was. You
can check this out along I look if you can
find it. Tei Hung Bang did a short prison sentence
in South Korea. He had a side deal I think
with mafia elements there in South Korea. I think he
served ten months there for the Leo Koons fight. He
threw that one. Again you've seen not involved in that one.
Leo Kuon's not involved in that.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Was there one in the UFC that's related to Kraus
in the past year, wasn't there some weird hiccup er moment?

Speaker 5 (45:35):
I have seen people point to other events where people
had injuries and it.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Was or wasn't known.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I have not yet that was the fight.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
I've got vetted those claims. So I'm a little hard
to say.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
I'm just gonna say one point though, and we don't
have to litigate this here BC, but one thing that
I've brought up is that in the past, it's my
belief that the sport is a right wing sport.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
We're not. We don't have to delve into that.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
But one point I want to make related to that,
if I may, is that the current people who run
the Ultimate Fighting Championship have a very close relationship with
the president. They have a close relationship with the FBI director,
and he is a UFC fan. He's been pictured with
Dana White, He's been pictured.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
They want to program where he's going to train with them.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
But he wanted to do business with the UFC, and
and I'm not saying, I'm not declaring he won't do
a proper investigation, but I have some concerns about what
we're going to get as a consequence of what appeared
to be some potential conflicts.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
So you know it's super serious when after the fight,
toward the end of the night, a bunch of major
sports books were offering refunds related to you if you
had bet on Dulgarian and loss. That's a major sign.
We have a statement here as well from DraftKings related
to this which says we are aware of the situation
regarding the Isaac Dulgarian versus Yadier del Valet event and

(46:50):
we will be sure to let you know if our
team has further updates.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
So my understanding is that I don't know if this
is the case for DK or not, but some places
can only do fuller refunds. I think if like if
the bout is overturned or something has to happen on
the front end for that to be changed.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
This is a little bit you have to ask long
on lucas he would is that how it works.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
I'm just gonna say, anytime a bet has been overturned
for me in the past, it happens usually within twenty
four hours, So I feel like, if you haven't been
refunded yet, it's probably not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
R Well, we'll see. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't know how to look the same thing we
said after the crowd situation, which I thought would be
a much bigger situation, but they were able to put
that fire out quickly. It's all based on the integrity
that you said you have to fix this. You have
to fix this powerfully swiftly. UFC has not commented public
on it, publicly on it. I wish they would soon
just sort of just put what they know the investigations
that they're doing themselves all of that. Yeah, because you know,

(47:41):
they obviously want nothing to do with this because of
how much money with the sponsorships and the connection to gambling.
And look, it's what percentage of the fan base is
gambling related? A large percentage of.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
The sutally the online fan base. One other note, one
of the group that partnered with many of the sports leagues.
They've partnered I think with I mean every major sports
league you can think of, including but not limited to UFC.
They used to be called US Integrity and now they're
called IC three sixty. I reached out to them for comment.
Are they aware of the situation, are they looking into
it anything?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
I don't know if they'll get back to me, but
if they do, I'll be sure to let everyone know
what they say.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Excellent, Wow, what a wild what a wild term. Before
we exit this topic, Luke, we did want to have
an opportunity to shout out what else was on the card,
and I do have to say this. Norma Dumont went
out there against Kaitlyn Vieira in a very close fight,
a split decision, and handled her business for the sixth
consecutive time. We are looking for names in these somewhat

(48:39):
dormant female UFC divisions at the moment in women's bandom,
weight certainly is one of them, outside of what's going
on at the very top with Kayla Harrison and the
expected return of Amanda Nunas. But how about Norma Dumont
kind of putting herself in position to fight next for
the title once Kayla is free. Those are some big
names she took out across the way in those six
fights as well. It's not like she has been fighting nobody.

(49:01):
Are you feeling her as a title contender?

Speaker 5 (49:04):
I think the answer is maybe. But she wanted to
be a split decision. She didn't beat a chump, but
she wanted to be a split She got taken down
twice and controlled for stretches her stretches. It's like, I mean,
there's always two separate questions. One is is someone close
to a title shot? And two is do they actually
have a chance at winning? Did I see someone who

(49:25):
can beat Kayla Harrison? And I don't know if Kayla's
going to stick around long enough for the Steven matter?
Probably not. Am I seeing someone who's putting together the
kind of streak that's going to have to be rewarded
sooner or later. Yes, yes, I did see that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
You'll go that far all right, a long island, Luke.
Were you impressed by Charles Raki the Walter wit he
were talking about coming in scored that third round sub
there he was jack too.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm not so much impressed with Radke as much
as I knew Frenza isn't really on the UFC level.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
He doesn't look like he's a UFC body, right, he's
a little soft. I don't want to mean to be
a hashtag body guy here, Luke, but in these middle
divisions you gotta be ripped, right.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
He did have some good rear naked choke defense. I
will say I thought Charles was going to get him
out of there in like the first round, but it
took a little longer. But he was dropped in his
first two ZUOFA fights before that, so that or dropped
four times.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Excuse me? So, uh yeah, I was never big on
that guy.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Also, the Temba Garmbo, it didn't go great.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
No, he threatened the kids of said I'll kill that guy,
and then he uh yeah, he lost. He just kind
of got out wrestled there and handled although.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Jeremiah Wells he's a big, decent athlete. Yeah, he's old too,
he's like thirty six, he's been around, he's shot out
of a cannon.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
So ended up being with a Long Island Luke.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
There's nothing else to talk about him. I wrong, that's
not true.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
To lead to Alan Carr got a sub the open
air of the car.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Are you a big Timmy kwamba guy?

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Uh? Who Oh? I didn't see that one actually.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
So get ready next week there'll be a lot of
who who as well. Luke.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
You know I didn't miss that one. I didn't watch it, Love.
I went back and watched the ones that I missed with.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I mean, even Long Island Luke's got nothing for us.
This is wild.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
I'm looking back against CO fight against Phil Rowe.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Dude, okay, oh that guy. He's strong on the ground.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Man, he's pretty strong.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Phil is actually pretty decent on the ground and he
was having a little bit of an issue.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Is that gonna be something CO?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
That's great Korean prospects to me, I've always kind of
they get real good, they get real good, and they
kind of.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Top out around the top five.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And then they leave for two years.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Well they have to.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I don't know if that's his case in this particular situation,
but he looks like he could could. He's interesting. I'll
say that he's interesting. How about that he's interesting?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
How about uh Dante Johnson submitting sed the other one?

Speaker 6 (51:33):
We should have said, yeah, that was a very questionable
defense there from.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
And then he defended him in the post fight Yeah, presser,
he was like, he's a good guy.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
I'm like, I don't know that that's true.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Well, he was trying to make the argument that we're
all good and bad and you don't know what this
guy's been through. But then people are countering. I think
Guru countered with the amount of mugshots Sadricus Dumas had
and it's it's a lot. Unfortunately many they keep giving
that guy fights. But Dakota Johnson came in what six
and oh was six first round knockouts, when to the
second round for the first time and got a good
looking sub.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
So yes, I mean he's still if you got sub
ten fights, unless you're like a diamond prospect.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yeah, you know, you gotta pump the brakes a little bit.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
But he seems funny, can talk a bit. He did
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Yeah all right, hey, let's go into topic number four,
A little crossover into the boxing world. In the fight
that seemingly no one wanted is now seemingly over, Netflix

(53:53):
was supposed to be giving us Jake Paul versus Davonte
Tank Davis for better or worse, mostly worse in the
recent civil lawsuit filed against Travanti Tank Davis, which only
if true, extends the theme of domestic violence in his
outside the ring life has brought the fight certainly under question.

(54:13):
As now Jake Paul seems to be publicly fishing for
a new opponent, with names as large as Ryan Garcia,
Nate Diaz, Francis Angano, Anthony Joshua being considered.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
For this.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yikes. Here, not only has the card still scheduled for
November fourteenth, but there's talks that, depending on which opponent
they end up choosing, it could be gone two separate
December dates instead. So, Luke, while we don't know exactly
what's going to happen next, we do know this debacle
was such a debacle that it even stopped the fight
from happening, which is probably a good thing. But what

(54:50):
does this entire episode say about Tank Jake celebrity crossover boxing.
I mean, I'm actually happy it's not happening, But the
reason is that's not happening sucks. Tank continues to take
another backstep.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Yeah, I mean again, like the other situation we discussed
with the UFC's this crazy Dulgarian fight, here's another situation
where things are alleged about Tank Davis.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
We can see what he's accused of here.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Yeah, when we put that up here, fuck me, I.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Can read it. Davis is accused by ex girlfriend Courtney Russell,
of battery, aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, an intentional infliction
of emotional distress. The lawsuit comes two months after Davis's
previous domestic violence case was dropped by a different ex
girlfriend and the mother of two of the boxer's three children. So,

(55:38):
if you remember, coming off of the first fight against
Lamont Roach, which I believe was in March, they never
got a second fight. There was a belief that Tank
could do legit, like somewhat legitimate time in jail, and
then the case got dropped, so he kind.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Of got he's on probation too.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
He kind of got off, you know, luckily, I guess,
you know, lucky. And while they weren't able to make
the Roach rematch, suddenly you have this fight, and now
you've got another accusation against him in the civil lawsuit.
With his track record, you know, you got people saying
straight up like maybe we'll never see Tank in a
meaningful fight again, which I don't think is true, but
at the very least it just thinks that's true.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Man, what a rough turn for again, or even if
you see him in a meaningful fight, will you see
him meaningfully prepared?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, I don't know where he's going to be at
you see what I mean. I don't know if he's
going to be able to stay out of prison with
with this time.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
I just say this, man, I really, and I'm being
dead serious, I really wanted to believe in the redemption
story for him.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Me too, because again I've made this point how many times?
This is this?

Speaker 5 (56:34):
We go back to the John Jonson where he dunked
on me when I asked him about his thirties and twenties.
But the whole point was I had seen so many
guys that I knew have really fucked up twenties, you know,
DUI's and much worse than that, and just kinds of
all kinds of problems, but the vast majority of them,
by age thirty sort of ironed it out. They sort
of got it together. And you know, listen, Tank has

(56:57):
had anything but an easy upbringing. And I do think
that that you know, who was supposed to show him
civility when no one did? Yeah, we're I think, okay,
but this is my point. Yeah, Now he has lived
enough life, yes, where you have an obligation to graduate
from your past and you have every resource imaginable to

(57:18):
do so, not least of which are your children. And
then beyond that, the fact that he had to spend
time behind bars for a little while as like a
prelude like this can either be something you come back
to or this can be the end of it.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
And I don't know what his future is.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
Again, this is a this is a civil lawsuit, but
the what I'm trying to make is he's a fuck
up man, Like, well, what else do you say about
a guy like this?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Get your shit together?

Speaker 5 (57:40):
It is not hard to not get sued by women
for the alleged heinous acts that are alleged in this
fucking lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
It is easy to do this.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Se boxing is so forgiving because there's part of it
that I don't know. People just expect boxers to be
crazy outside the ring. But it's like, you know, Tyson
coming out of jail. I know it's Mike Tyson, but
still it was like felt bigger than even when he
was on top of original. I mean, you remember how
big Tyson coming out of jail and getting back to
fighting was just enormous I think Tank if he wants

(58:09):
to can come back, But like at some point the
public's not going to forgive or care. That's what I'm saying,
Like you're at the point where it's just one thing
after them, and now he's not technically pulled from the fight.
We do have a statement that MVP put on there.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
It's like, I just want to say one thing about
the allegations.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Again, their allegations, but they tend to match problems he's
had with other things consistent thread through that.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Here's the statement from MVP.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
MVP immediately initiated an investigation upon learning of the civil
lawsuit against Dravante. At this time, we are gathering info
and reviewing the details to ensure any decision is thoroughly vetted.
They unequivocally, of course, condemn any form of violence and
are committed to handling this matter with diligence and respect
for all involved. And MVP will make a determination on
next steps once we have completed our review and consulted

(58:57):
with the appropriate parties. And then some then some uh
so wow wow wow, so good news. It's not happening
in my opinion, because I think this fight was bad
for boxing in a lot of ways.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
We talk to somebody who's working the show.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
By the way, especially with Tank still being a superstar
legit fighter in the midst of his prime, it just
never made sense.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
What do you got they're furious with Tank?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Of course they're fury because this isn't just like we'll
move the pay per view. This is Netflix. Yes, this
is like the top, This is the top.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Shore livid about what he's done, not just because what
is alleged against him is quite bad, but that also
he's just ruining everything around him for everybody else by
virtue of his conduct at the eleventh or not quite
the eleventh. I we're pretty close to it. Yeah, they're
My understanding is they are absolutely irate, which means b

(59:46):
see if he does get replaced, does the door close
on him for Netflix or the future for good?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
One wonders. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
So.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Originally Sports Illustrator reported that Ryan Garcia was in discussions
with Jake Paul. Then Oscar de la Hoya would put
out a video that basically said, look, when he fights,
I'll announce it. He's under contract to me and his
own It's impossible for him to go over there on
Netflix and fight him. I don't know if that's impossible.
If Turkey was involved in those money and everybody's making
it be more than fine. But so that took him

(01:00:13):
out of the mix seemingly. But Nate Diez had posted
something the day before that it seemed as if the
fight was off, which felt almost like maybe had some
insight infos. So he posted a video of him boxing
Jake Paul with the with the quote here, I was
injured in this fight, but they trip and I still
won this fight. It's all good, though most people don't

(01:00:34):
know shit about boxing. I'll get it back on the
both the Paul sisters see you fuckers soon. At the
time that he posted that, I felt like, oh, man,
like it kind of looks lame that he's almost begging
to get a fight that's not gonna happen. But now
it makes sense that there were probably phone calls being made.
The problem is like, how much, like how much? I

(01:00:54):
got an honest question, how much does anybody care at
the highest level about Jake Paul anymore? And my highest
level I don't mean the highest level box, I mean
like using Netflix to cross over, it has to be
a specific opponent, like if they rush out at Francis
and Ganu. I think a lot of people will care
because it's sort of like, now that's a real challenge
for Jake in the crossover, you know, professional sports bubble

(01:01:16):
here of boxing people that aren't boxers. I think to
some degree, if he thought anyone for a cruiseraet title,
people would care. But outside of that, I don't feel
like a lot of people care anymore. We've been through this,
they've done We've done the Mike Tyson Ride already and
a lot of people got off that ride feeling like, Wow,
what a waste of time, and we did Chavez Junior
and now we were going to do a lightweight. If

(01:01:37):
this turns into a rematch with Nate Diaz or Anthony Joshua,
I mean, maybe people would care about Joshua because they'd
want Jake Joshua want it, But like, outside of selling
your name to a giant guy that's probably gonna beat
you or fighting for a title, I don't know that
people will care about any of the other potential names.
I mean, what happens if Netflix rolls out Jake Nate

(01:01:58):
Io when the first fight sucked, there's no like hype
at the moment or buzz behind it. They'd have to
rush this out to try to save some date with.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I saw that they might move it to December, mid December.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Even if you move it a month, what's the build?
What's the need for this? What did we not learn
in that first fight?

Speaker 11 (01:02:13):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I mean, there's no need for it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
You know what's interesting is man, it feels like all
the things you say are true. But also like Jake
really aired in the last two fights he picked. So
the fight with Tyson obviously did huge numbers, but it
really soured a lot of kill.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
This credibility whatever he had.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
So he overcorrected and like, oh, I got to get
someone who's like relevant and it's got a big name.
But then he went the other way and finding someone
who is you know, five six way classes whatever it
was below him, And everyone was like, this is weird
and we don't like it. And Dravante had other business
to attend to with lamont Roach and worst of all,
they do these pressers and Dravante can barely be bothered

(01:02:56):
to give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
He doesn't know the date of the fight, he doesn't
know anything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
He doesn't care, Like the whole thing has been since
the Tyson fight debacle. I mean, obviously there's been issues
before that, but since then, it feels like maybe the
worm has turned a little bit on Jake Paul where people.
I'm not saying that to your point. There is a
universe of fights of people that the public would be
interested in seeing him in, but he doesn't seem to
select those. The Nganu one would blow me away if

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he did it, which is why I don't think he will,
like of all the ones, you're like, oh, that'd be cool,
he picks all the uncool ones.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Here's the thing. If he picks any of the really
biggest names available to you, you have one month to
build it, and that's if Netflix is willing to push
it out to December and you get a new date.
The best choice he could make for that, I believe
the combination of credibility and MUSTYTV is in Ghanu. Like, look,
if he thought either Canelo or Anthony Joshuaz or two
guy and Kenol's not in the running now, but these

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were two guys that he had he was pretty damn
close to fighting. At different points, we all assumed he's
almost sort of cashing out his name, trying to make
the biggest money on the biggest audience possible. We're only
going to give him a certain amount of respect for that.
You're also taking active fight out of the active fighting
pool and sort of putting them in a meaningless exhibition.
And Ghanu means you're trying to challenge yourself, doesn't it Yes,

(01:04:08):
And gano means you're taking a risk. Jake doesn't take
risks and fights. There's always that built in advantage of size,
youth experience. It's the same theme. It's why no one
should have cared about Javis Junior, and then Javis Junior
didn't care for the first nine rounds. The in Gano
thing could win back a lot in a short period,
could win back a decent amount of good will. That's
why he won't do it. That's why he won't do it.

(01:04:31):
But with a lack of build. If you have one
month to build this and you get I mean they
put out the think of how mad Netflix is. There
was money spent to do the pre fight documentary series.
My wife brought up Tank Davis's tattoos the other day,
which was just mind Blow'm like, what like, what.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Long islan look which fighter that Jake Paul could fight
would make you most excited to skip time with your girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Absolutely none of them. I don't give a fuck about
anything that this guy does. Honestly, I was saying to BC,
why are we covering his possible opponent, Like it's one
thing to be like, he has a fight book, let's
cover Like I don't. I just I'm so over the
Jake Paul experience.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Honest Yeah, I gotta say it's really warm thin very quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Well I guess not very quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
I mean he's been around doing this for years now,
but the god, oh did I listen if he'd acted?

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
If he because if.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
He wins that you respect the ship out of him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
If you out boxing Ghanu, yeah, I would respect that. Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
And Ghanu went the distance with Tyson fury, I think
that's the fury. You a bit off more than he
could chew in terms of prep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
But dude, AJ corrected that must take all the ship
fixed that way. I talked to the judges judges that
that worked that fight, and they were I think I
told you this, and they were like, I've never seen
a more scarier vicious ko where I thought, like that
person might not make that right, and like just like
damn wow.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Anyway, that's why he won't pick him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Probably true, We'll find he's like, you know, who's gonna
pick He's gonna pick has BULLA No, dude, he's gonna
pick Nate.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
But like who has Bull as his rival?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
U abd Rose? But like, dude, he's gonna pick Nate
because it'll make the most sense to pull over combat
sports fans.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
But that's right, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
All Right?

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
How peopleuld say who cares? Brother? Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Yeah, let's go to topic five, which is a combat
sports roundup of lingering news. It's not necessarily a hot
period right now, even though UFC three twenty two is
right around the corner, but reports coming out. I saw
some reporting from Dan Rayfield and Mike Coppinger that early
in twenty twenty six, a joint pay per view is
being planned between PBC on Prime and dizone involving Ryan

(01:06:26):
Garcia challenging Mario Barrios for his one hundred and forty
seven pound WBC title that he fought Manny Pacchio to
a draw to. In fact, Barrios is coming off two
consecutive draws in title defenses and is seen in a
lot of ways as a beatable, sort of weak title holder.
Ryan Garcia hasn't done a lot of great stuff since
that fight against Devin Haney, including all the outside of

(01:06:49):
the ring stuff, the really bad performance and the decision
loss at welterweight to Roley Romero, and more bad stuff
on social media. Yet Luke, I have to say, because
they're both flawed, and because love him or hate him,
and I know you hate him Ryan Garcia, if he's
active and if he's winning, he's a star in boxing
needs him, actually smart matchmaking.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
I just thought it was kind of funny that Jake
Paul loses Javante because amous allegations are made against him
and his first choice was the guy who is nuclear
reactor racist.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, but people are unbelievable. People are over that, though
I'm not saying that they should. People don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
People are not over that. Clowns are over that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I think people just looked at it as he was
on drugs. He wasn't taking his meds, like he was
acting out in the worst way possible. I'm not forgiving
for him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
That I don't disgusting, but I mean I bought that
he was doing that. I buy that that's also how
he acted pretty close. I think that closely approximate how
he actually feels. Anyway, do you ever notice that people
well never forget moving along. I'll say this, who is
Mario Marios's manager? Because he gets him in all the

(01:07:59):
big fights. He got him Tank, He.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Tank on pay per view, if Keith Thurman on pay
per view, but many Pakiao, he fought on the jig
Paul Mike Tyson like main cards, no against albel Ramos
and and doesn't look great in all of those who
fought well against Tank. Yeah, but you're right, keeps getting
that call.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Keeps getting freaking called up to the mark.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
I think about it. Mexican American audience behind him. He
is a warrior, and they see him as beatable.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Yeah, if it's hard, We've been with Virgil Hunter, been
with Bob Santos, goes around, you know. I'll say this,
Garcia just being serious and just trying to measure what
we saw that Times Square card.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
It was terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
This seems seems like a beatable opponent for him. But
I don't know what Ryan's done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
And look, if boxing's not dead and it actually starts
to pick up again, the real big fight of this
month is Turkey's Ring four card that has that co
main event of Devin Haney challenging Brian Norman Junior for
a Walway title. And you know, here's a lot of
people picking Norman, by the way, who's the betting favorite,
A lot of people picking him by ko uh, the
winner of that unifying down the road against the winner
of this fight. That's it's getting kind of it's kind

(01:09:11):
of interesting where wilt Rate was just dead recently, like
dead dead dead.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Yeah, yeah, true, that's true. But still it's just a
very surprising pairing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
All right, more talk from Yuri Prohotska on the UFC side.
I hate this about the idea of not not taking
my suggestion and go up and be a quick heavyweight
cutting down to one eighty five. I don't think you
should cut anything because he's in the midst in the
title mix right now, even though Poeton has beaten him twice.
A good or bad idea, Luke, I have a feeling
you're gonna say bad. I mean, what what would be

(01:09:40):
the good about this?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Closer to a title shot?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Okay, let's if you're a Yurie fan, and you believe
in his upside, you might think he'll be a huge middleweight,
which I do think is true. He'd be a He's
a big fucking two to Zho Fiver. He's gonna be
Garganta in and eighty five, and he wants to stay active,
and he wants to get another title and you've gotta
love that. And plus year he's never in boarding fights.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
That's really not an issue.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
But I gotta tell you, you see, I gotta tell you,
I gotta tell you, Jim, Jim.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
All right, Jim, okay, Jim.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
For a guy who has to live on his chin
cutting another twenty pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
I gotta tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
I don't love that bad idea jeans take them off,
please please, I don't. I just that gives me the
heb gbs. Let's tear his reasoning. We do have video
company this.

Speaker 9 (01:10:32):
On a recent interview, you tease the potential move to
middleweight if you can't get another fight with.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
You, if you if you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:39):
Can't get a fight with Alex Perriso, look at what
would that looks like for you? You're you're a big guy,
so would that be a too big a deal?

Speaker 11 (01:10:47):
Yeah, let's see let's see.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
But I'm in, like I'm in.

Speaker 11 (01:10:52):
Uh for me to cut to Natty Tree is it's
not a problem. I think to eighty four kilo rams
like middleweight will be really really something. And I believe
I can. I can make it with my body because

(01:11:12):
I am and I know my body, so I believe
I can. I can make it. But it depends like
I really wants to bring first pry the title, to
eat your grip up light.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
It feels like he just wants a challenge.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Yeah, can I tell you what he wants to do
it for, because he sees it as one of those
like spiritual retreats, like the quest to make eighty four
kilos in his mind or one eighty five. That's what
he's doing because go up to heavyweight, what do you
have to do?

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Just nothing, just just do whatever. But he wants the grind.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
He loves the the depletion and the challenge of that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Bring did you do one of those Anthony Joshua no
light retreat.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Things, Aaron Rodgers smooth poop thing?

Speaker 11 (01:11:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Dark, I think yeah, maybe just like run a mart
or something.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
How do these people not know you can just hit
a fucking bong and it'll take you there right, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Well said, Let's keep it going Herb Dean. I believe
he was interviewed by Helen Yee and he seemed to
put out some news that the ipokem pandemic of late
could get a change. Herb Dean says a meeting will
be held in November fourth, that's tomorrow, to address ipokes
and says there will definitely be something done about them.
His quote to hell and Ye Sports was enough people

(01:12:28):
are fed up with the ipoke situation, that something is
going to be done. There's gonna be a meeting where
we go over that. Definitely something's gonna happen. Enough people
are upset enough of the fight people. Some people have
been talking it's got enough momentum. Early next week, I
think there's a conversation happening. Okay, so we know that
how aggressive will this conversation be? Is this the Commission

(01:12:48):
getting together on an almost national level and saying take
a point, no matter what, when they tell you touch
the eye, you get a point.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
I don't know if they'll do that, but I think
that they're going to find a way to have some
forms of it enforcement that go quicker in terms of
taking points and also want to point out something here
I think a little bit more broadly BC, which is
there do appear to be a lot of things, including
some really important ones, that are just beyond the scope
of public pressure changing athletic commissions. However, this incident, in

(01:13:17):
my mind, goes to show that enough fans have been
in media too, have been pissed off enough to get
out on social media or make video content or reading
written content or you're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Talking about fighting the powers that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Be yes, and now they're hearing it, and now they're
reacting and this is but this is different.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
They think they got Bonnickle off the main cart at
three twenty two because of that same reason. Uh, that's
what people think.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
People, I think there's something to that. Well point out
here's the difference. Though you can't browbeat the commission and
be like, you guys, fucked up. You got to fix it.
They don't really respond to that. What they respond to
is money. Well that too, but also they think it's
a good idea. They must be able to hear some
of the people being like, take a point quicker and

(01:13:59):
I think it in two resonates with them. So they're
like much more receptive to do it, but getting them
to backtrack on something that's going to make them look
bad that's very, very difficult to do. So there is
there is a role to public I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Just glad we're finally here. It took a heavyweight championship
pay per view man event.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
But we're finally They had to Freddy Krueger them shits.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I mean, take the point retrain people how to fight.
I don't want to care. I don't want to hear. Well,
that's Mutai. You extend your fingers the same Muyti. It's Mma.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Okay, yeah, it's not Mutai.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
You know what I'm saying. Thank you, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Also, Muytai fans, they're gonna kill me for saying this.
They tend to be the weirdest of all combat sports fans.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
You sir, we're BJJ greppling.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
No they're not. They're not as weird. They're pretty weird,
but they're not more than muy Thai.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I think they're all weird.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Luke Jacob on Amsterdam big boy Thai guys checks out
what I tell you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
What I tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Well timed right there? All right, Luke, I have one
more for you. A favorite coach of many boxing experts,
Steven Bredman Edwards shocked, of course, rights a fantastic Weekly
Q and a collum on boxing scene. He's kind of
gone public in an interview, saying he has parted ways
his choice with one Caleb Plant, who lost in an

(01:15:10):
upset to Armando Rayce Endiz earlier this year in a
PBC main event. Caleb has not fought since. But the
quote here from Edwards is, I'm not going to be
training Caleb, so I don't really know what's next for him.
I've been hearing about his future fights, but I really
don't know what's going on. But I'm not going to
be training him. I don't really know what direction he
wants to go in. I just let him know about
three or four weeks after the fight that I would

(01:15:31):
be stepping away. I never really talked, but I'm hearing
the Charlo fight in different fights that people were asking me.
But it's something I let him know back in June.
I want to say I've got love for Caleb, so
it's not a thing of like it's a confrontational relationship.
He doesn't owe me money or anything like that. Sometimes
relationships just run their course. He would go on to
double down about having respect for him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
While I was shocked initially upon hearing the news, I'm
not shocked. I remember all of the interviews, the very
honest interviews that Breadman gave after immediately after, Like backstage.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
People thought he was throwing Caleb under the bust.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
A little where he wasn't, but he was being a
tough coach. And what I remember from Breadman's biggest takeaways
there was Caleb wasn't I don't want to say Caleb
wasn't in the shape he wanted, but there were long
stretches of Caleb's camp that didn't involve Bredman. Where Caleb's dad,
Richie was running. I think that was where Caleb was
staying in Las Vegas, closer to home. His wife was
pregnant at the time with their second child, as wefe Jordan.

(01:16:28):
So I just wonder, because Breadman had set up immediately
after that loss, if I work with him again, I
want it to be one hundred percent me, Like we're
doing the whole training camp on my terms, and I
don't think he's necessarily taking a shot at Caleb's dad.
It just sounded like from listening to that interview at
full that he understood Caleb to be distracted and or

(01:16:49):
not where he should have been lotting into that fight.
And he's just trying to say like, I'm not going
to put in the time unless you are. And obviously
it feels like for him being the one to break
it publicly like this, it just means he doesn't have
confidence that Caleb will change whatever the impasses between them.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
I can I ask a question, See what you think
have you detected of late?

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Not from you or me, but from others? A little
bit more breadman slander on the timelines?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Not really, No, No, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
No, I feel like I've seen a lot. Maybe that's
my I don't. I don't know how to explain that.
I see a lot of people being like, oh, he's
been found out that the limits of his coaching have
been discovered.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
You do you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I have not seen that trend.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Okay, let's take for the let's just take for the
sake of argument that I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's out there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
There's what would you what would be the reason for that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I mean, look, you know, coaches aren't has.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
He had a bunch of guys like fall short recently because.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
That's necessarily I mean, he's most known for Julian j
Rock Williams, but Jay Rock is, you know, sort of
has he's either done or has another fight left, and
he has caught on with different people. But I thought
Caleb planted some of his best work with Breadman in
the Corner, which was not only the knockout of Darrell,
it was the performance he had in the defeat against Benavidez.
So you can say that about any coach who becomes
the hot coach of the moment. What happened to Derek James,

(01:18:15):
especially when suddenly everyone's reaching out to be with them
and then they can't resurrect every single person because ultimately
a coach is not a magician, but paired perfectly with
the right student that fits with them, it can be
a magic connection and an upgrade. I feel like coach
Redman found out that hand him. Caleb ultimately, like after
the totality of three four fights, weren't where you need

(01:18:38):
to be for Breadman to be at his best. And
maybe and I think it's like it s Freddie Roach,
the same thing happened, dude, Freddy Roach couldn't couldn't fix
American's chin, you know what I mean? Like Virgil Hunter
great with andre ward On a mediocre with everybody else.
It's more, in my opinion, about the magic of the
connection and what is the fighter missing that the trainer
can fill in, whether it's a motivation or belief in

(01:18:59):
themselves or work ethic or whatever, you know, or just
at what he did with Caleb Plant, just adding little
extras to the corners of his game.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
In any event, I uh, I look forward to seeing
Caleb Plant return. I think I still have great interest
in the Caleb Plant Edgar Berlanga fight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah, what about Jamal Charlow? Too late?

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
So what to replay? The slap the whole thing. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
The Charlo's are kind of fucked up. Yeah, Blonga Berlongo
is just a donk, you know what I mean. The
Charlo's are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Dude, Burlonga wants to Charas rematch what he wants it aggressively.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Yes, are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I'm not kidding. He wants he wants to get back
in that kitchen. Got batter he did, get ye bludgend. Yeah,
Charaz is like way better than he made look like
a killer. He did, yes, whereas Charaz did not look
like that at one sixty against a damas who was
crafty and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Yeah.

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In fact your HIV positive.

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Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Why do featherweight fighters seem invisible until they are top five?
When they are so talented? I'll push back, Lord g
n Silva was not invisible over the last year.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with the premise of
the question. I mean, it's a stack division, so it's
a little hard to break out. Plus it's one of
those divisions where you've got lingering guys at the top
and then there's more reshuffling underneath, so you have to
get to a level where you're facing someone a little
bit more of a fixture.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
The whole division has been about vulk Max until Turia
for a long stretch, and it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Kind of still in the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I accidentally said that on HQ the other day because
I do it so often and I wasn't able to
correct myself, so I just rolled with it. Yeah, that's awesome,
Like maybe he's Irish. Well, I am an eighth. Yeah,
So I mean, is he saying because Evel thow I
has no footprint and can barely get a tyer shot
even though he's overly deserved it. No one really knows
about Laren Murphy's not until the spinning back fist. Use
have Zilals on a run, but is far under the radar.

(01:24:05):
I mean there were opportunities for others Pico. If Pico
stepped in and won that fight.

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, I can under
I'll say this. It is easy to get lost in
a division like that. I'll buy that. But there is
there are enough ways, and we've seen it done to
create momentum such that I somewhat somewhat challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
The premise of the question. I do, but I think
in general there's something to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah, but shout out to Brantendo. G my guy, let's
go the second one here from at Emery Nick six. Look,
do you have a favorite eve six one?

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
By the way inside out, I'll swallows.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Uh in your opinion? Who was the most disappointing MMA
prospect of all time? And he offers Aaron Pico and
Sage north Cut.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
That's a tough one. I mean, it's hard to say
the most disappointing because you had guys who are national
champs at heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Well, Pico was called the greatest prospect of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Okay, but people just say shit, that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Mark Ellis was a national champion and he he bottomed
out after I think one or two fights. That was
very disappointing. I had really high hopes. Cole Conrad won
a title at Bellatore but then trained with Brock Lesner.
You know what was there?

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
What was there? What was the training environment in Minnesota
called death clutch?

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
Death clutch seemed death clutch and he was apparently you know,
boss hog down.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
There, farm farm strength he had.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
So him not ever getting to the UFC is a
big loss. I do believe that. But you know, Pico's
struggles have been a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Tom Dukina broke my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
Tom Dukin whall fireball kid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
I thought also even though he's kind of made a
comeback there the Korean Super Bowl, I thought he was
going to go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
You thought a guy who lived on his chin was
I don't know what I was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
It was so exciting and fun and just was like
we were going.

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
To say long al I was gonna say, Thomas Almeida,
he had like a bunch of hype around. He got that, yeah,
and then he got cracked and then he was never
the same again. Also, both people who said they were
going to be John Jones this record, we got to
give them credit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Edmund Shabazi and he had a lot of hype.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
He's still there, kind of putting it together a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
He's we all know he's never going to be top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
And the other's Macy Barber and the others. Bar who's
close to making a comeback, and she had like there's
medical she's saying it was like that, like life threatening.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
Yeah, some sort of systemic issue. I don't I don't
know what that is. But yeah, those are some decent ones.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Good point, good point. Let's keep it going here. The
fun continues from Antonio on m Alvarez. There are a
couple of periods in between. Which fight is the most
disappointing to have lost out on Tom Aspinall versus John Jones,
Tank Shakur or Anthony Joshua Tyson pure fury in their prime.
You could also add Joshua Deante Wilder because that was
the biggest fight you can make for years, and they

(01:26:43):
never got it done, even though the Zone offered.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Him the Fury big yeah, and in their primes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
In their prime, it's still big. But uh man, that's
a been all Jones, dude. We waited, we there was
like a two year window where that was what we
were building to and it didn't happen. And it's John's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
Yeah, I'd say that one, or for me, I'm gonna
I'm probably gonna say. I'm probably gonna say Joshua Fury,
But yeah, texture car would be nice, but it's I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
That one feels a little different to me.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
Don't you guys feel like there was more hype for
John versus Ganu than there was for a versus what.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
You're right, we actually needed that car in the handover
of power in the historical Damn, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
The kind of ducked him too. You know, he's gonna
get his way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
He was begging Dana on the on the broadcast of
Dirty Boxing, begging He's like, bro, please, like, let me fight.
Do you think they'll let him know?

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
I just adduct in the worst way imagining, But do you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Think they'll let him fight? Poton on the White House law.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
I think the let him fight poton. I don't know
about the White House lawn.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Oh really yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Kind of seems like the only area would make sense, right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
No, that fight is big enough to put it in
a lot of places.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Joe Rogan said it's going to be the biggest fight
of all time, didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
Joe Rogan watches? Do you know how much Ai slop
he falls for?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yes, it's g gee Valentine that got his back. On
social media for Ronda Khama Rody was taking shots at him.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
I was like, dude, got Ronda.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
We got a little Ronda. And have you seen this show?
What else we got from the fans here? From at
Eric Bolden, has UFC your bot? Come on as UFC
your boxing had the better year over? This is a
disastrous year for boxing. Started off with some hits and
it looked like we're going somewhere. I've never seen a
year fall apart, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
What's the last time you had a year this down?
In boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Twenty fourteen? It was Rafe wrote a piece for Grantlin
called the Year of Suck, and it was just like
every fight fell apart drug test injuries, The best didn't
fight the best because el Haman was preparing PBC for
the next year. So it was like the Garcia Salka fight,
like a lot of that kind of lingering stuff. That
was just a bad luck year. Twenty twelve suck two.
Twenty sixteen was bad nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Twenty thirteen was when Floyd went to showtime.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Yeah, twenty thirteen was one of the best year. Year
two thousand for me as a as a fan who
was also kind of working in the industry at those times.
Two thousand and seven, twenty thirteen in twenty twenty three
are the three years.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
What was Codo Margarito O eight? Yes, that was a
fucking good year too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Yes, oh seven was just insanely great man. That was
uh Oscar Floyd. Floyd had that fight sucked Kelzagie Kessler
like it was just like uh uh Jermaine Taylor, Kelly Pavock.
It was just like one banger after another after another,
Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams. I mean, it was just what
two thousand was it Kelzaki who iced Paul Williams. Uh No,

(01:29:41):
that was Sergio Martin Gio Martinez?

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Is that O seven as well?

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
In that era exact date on there but that is
can you look that up please? The second Paul Williams
Sergio Martinez fight, Jamie.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Can you please first round? Jen?

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Can you get that for us? Yeah? Right, all right, no,
do you have any more questions from these people?

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Real quick?

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
That fight was in November twenty ten, ten that late.
So it's the second and final fight between the two rounds.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Yeah, they knocked him out the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, first No, second round, second round. Yeah, one punch,
one punch.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
All right, our final one comes from at Christina. Is
it Pintu or pinto? I don't know, BJJ. Would you
rather eat an entire meal with Selene aka the Cake
Lady or who God? Or be forced to live in
Newark COmON?

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Is eating a bullet a choice? Or before?

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
So you have to live in Newark Penn Station for
a week live.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Let me explain something to you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
The answer has to be eat with Celine the Cake Lady,
because nothing lives in the New York City Penn Station, sorry,
the Newark Penn Station for a week.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
No hit bulls, bacteria doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Yeah, bulls were running down like the tracks.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
El Toro was running down the motherfucking train track.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
I have to say this there. Look, there's almost just
using a lot of major cities, but the amount of
unhinged people inside the Newark Penn Station who are then
going up to like the counter and like causing scenes
are it's a next level.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
I've never there's a ton of police there.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
And it's honestly because obviously you get a lot of
this kind of situation with the homeless people at you know,
these transportation hubs in the urban centers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Everywhere you go.

Speaker 5 (01:31:22):
But we stayed in Cleveland next one dude for the
first for the fucking Jake Paul Tyren Widley fight showtime
put us next to the fucking but a stop.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Yes, I couldn't not bust up station.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Yeah, and I mean it was, you know, I don't
know what you want to say. It was walking out
of that place.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
If you want more on that, go check out documentary
number four.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
But the point I'm trying to make is BC there's
also just like like Newark is a poster child for
urban decay, whereas you get some weirdos in the New
York City Penn Station. Hello, I saw a guy shaving
his fucking pubes and there in the sink. But you
know the New York the Newark Penn Station. So the
answer is, cake lady, we got a date?

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Dude, I don't know, Like I can't ask, like cake
Lady a little sneaky.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I don't know. My man. My man is like, are
you a lunch lady because I want to bang.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
You like a little like a little sneaky.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
Right, can't believe that the guy who eats at Rby's
thinks the cake lady is sneaky like a little just
a little speaking up.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
I got a lot of requests for you guys to
eat steak nuggets on air.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Are we into that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Hell yeah, let me do that next week.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Why don't just take a dump in my hand and
do an infinite food loop.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
It needs to be RB's branded.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Wow, Yes, I do it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
That's all the d ms from the Donks that we
can handle today. But you can reach out to our
program at Morning Combat at gmail dot com see below
to reach us for Friday's fan subs, dead wrongs, or
to just complain about the show, or to show my
key your back. But please don't do that. Wow, he
loves you, all right. I don't know how this batch
is gonna work. Now there have been times I talked

(01:33:02):
a big game and it sucked. I'm talking a small
game here. This is Have you seen this ship? It's
not great. We'll do our best with what we found
this week. Pick the kernels for yourself. Although, Luke, the
history of my life has always been to undersell so

(01:33:24):
that I could surprise and overachieve. You know, maybe this
will be one of those. We'll see what it's happened.
It was Halloween weekend for Tuki and everyone around the world. Here, Luke,
is the costume of the year. The mega Powers take
a mega dump. Look at this Savage in Hogan creation.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
I don't understand what I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
The best Halloween costume ever?

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
This is Let me see if I understand this. This is
macho man Randy Savage carrying a portajohn.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Yes, of which Hulk Hogan is taking a dump in
the portajohn. Yes, so it's the guy the real guy
is both at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Okay, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
That's pretty that's pretty darn amazing. Uh, Luke. Not everybody's
offering candy, Some like your father are offering coupon's. What
do you make of this eighty set up here on the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Only one cassette per child.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
I'm going poison flesh and blood out of that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Group, right, serious question. Do you actually have a cassette
player currently?

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
I don't have one either.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I did somewhat recently. I don't now I don't have
a VHS player anymore. They all broke. Uh yeah, Big
Vinyl guy though, Big Vinyl Guy. Also, Luke, we stopped
by your house to see what you were offering this
year for Halloween.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Maximum three puffs per trick or treater. You think I
would share my vape with these kids?

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Out kids? You know how much I love the b
a Man Boston account. Right, They've got a Halloween one today.
It's like die at the job, be a man.

Speaker 12 (01:34:44):
Happy Halloween cove out of pumpkin and take a dump
in it, Tamn.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
Cove out of Pumpkin Cave.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
We'll also submit this East Wing costume for your your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
Luke, I gotta say I wouldn't have worn this, but
that's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
That's pre ballroom that costume.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's that's well done.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
All right, well done. Uh, let's keep it going here,
here's your splash of the week. Watch this husky fella
in the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Going with a gray shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Yep, you're running like a Oh what the fuck was
that big country?

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
That was great?

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Right? You had too many RB steak nuggets? Got Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I know this is AI. I'm telling you up front,
but this is your AI commercial of the week at
Farnd Cars. You're a dad, you're fat, You far and
we've got.

Speaker 9 (01:35:36):
The cars for you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Every pre owned ride is guaranteed to handle your fart.

Speaker 9 (01:35:40):
We're slashing prices all week, so bring your cheeks and
drive away today.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Bad damn fark cars, cars for fat dans to fart in.
Come on, you can't hate that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
That's AI.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Yeah, oh you fell for it. I might have might
have come on down to fat damn far Cars. Uh,
Luke I mentioned we'll have some rousey. Here's a clip
I didn't until just the other day from the burn.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
Kysler crying or is he talking in falsetto like the
lays the ship out of Dana?

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
Is it fair to say that Dana is the biggest
star at the UFC.

Speaker 7 (01:36:11):
I think without Dana its soul is gone, and Dana.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Is the heart.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Dana is Dana is such an I hope you and
Dana are cool much. He is such the He's everything
you want that fucking guy to be, his intensity, his
I love you, Dana, but he's still a little bit
of a meathead you know who.

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
Isn't though, that makes him to identify with him more
And that's why I love the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Guy is like and he is in his energy forever
is what he drives him and his vision and the
fact that he doesn't give a fuck and he's just
talked wild ship and not giving a fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
I love Dana White.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
I think he is so but he is the star
of UFC. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
But yeah, with with when Dana's and I think the
dominant MMA, you know organization, that title will be up
for grabs.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:37:07):
Yeah, because I think Dana is it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
Yeah. I statement she made it's a completely insane state.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
She's saying that if Dana left the UFC today, and
and by the way, like people have reported for a
long time, it's like Hunter Campbell making the big decisions
that people ascribe to Dana, although he's definitely the face
of it, the mask, got the communicator, he's got a legacy.
But she's saying if he left today that within three
years there would be a new number one MMA organized.

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
Yeah, I mean you would have to not know anything
about how the business works to think that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
That's a wild statement.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
Right now, I'm not saying something wouldn't be lost without
Dana being a presence in the organization, no doubt about that.
I'm not saying, of course, I do think that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
His connection to the audience all that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
It's like, dude, their market position is entrenched, that's not changing,
but for an enormous disruption, which Dana White's departure would
be not that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Look, you ever go back and watch home movies from
the eighties and just realized it was a different world.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
We say home movies, you mean like what could.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Be your you could be your family's home VHS movies
could be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Just old you didn't know the VHS.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
My whole oh wow, my whole point was the eighties
feel like seventy five years ago. People had different beliefs.
Here's some life goals from the eighties.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
I'll be married, I'll be a doctor, and I had
to kid kind of doctor.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
Oh they're going to take us down for this. You
should stop because you're playing no, no, no, you're playing
simple minds.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
In the there was like four second.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
It doesn't matter. It could be one second. They're going
to take us down for that. Even that already might
get us taken down.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Well, you blew the joke at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Local least could they started? They start?

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
She said I'm going to die of eate. She said
that she did, okay, and I don't you know, I
didn't think that was right. All right, Wow, this is
our worst segment of all time. We'll keep it going here. Look,
you know people will eat anything these days. Check out
this Los Angeles area side.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
We'll eat stinky puss for ten dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
Well, you know what, it's a it's a buyer's market,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Well, the debate still lingers about ass, whether you're in
or out on it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
So Robert, you do not eat ass?

Speaker 9 (01:39:04):
What I eat it?

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Who is that human thumb who's excited to eat butthole?

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
This is the T shirt of the week off of
that topic.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Spread cheeks, not hate what. I'm done with that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Get behind that movement here? Uh, speaking of all you
can eat, Luke, check out this new Arby's commercial anyway,
what that is?

Speaker 5 (01:39:38):
That's all you can eat under.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
A buck.

Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
Arby?

Speaker 12 (01:39:42):
We have them all right, We're turning this segment around
here slowly, Okay, Lucas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Hold the way she says the way see goes like this.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Tell me if I'm wrong under a bu.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Like she really laid into it. You know, it's time
for anime fighters in the wild. We can see whether
they are just like us. Here's an ideas backstage at
a WWE show.

Speaker 10 (01:40:15):
That's a badass.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Yeah he's got I don't know, I don't watch it anymore.
But that's the only belt he's ever won, unfortunately for
a guy that's a legend, right something like that. Yeah wow. Also,
here's not an mm A fighter. But how about Bud
Crawford's world tour. It's gone all the way to Columbia.

(01:40:40):
Rate his moves.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
See he's got a simple two step.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
I was wrong with the lake.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Yeah. I saw him get his belt checked at the airport.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Where is he in Menagi?

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
He was a one I saw he was a bullman.

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Talk he can move.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
Yeah, that's that vaginato music. You don't know shit about that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Also, Poeton was out rolling with John DuPont this week.
Look your thoughts on this. That's at Zuck.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Can you believe this?

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Fuck?

Speaker 9 (01:41:13):
It.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
Look at this mark, You're never gonna be cool. You
can be rich and you can get these guys to
John DuPont you, but you're never ever ever going.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
You must want full out on Pereira right there?

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Oh yeah, did he is that what he did? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Did He's in prison?

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
You see the pigs, Dude, this looks like he This
looks like a fucking big brother at a at A
make a wish that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
It looks really bad. Okay, Uh, time to catch some fails.
Let's go to the bike ramp.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
That's not a fail, okay, all right, other than that one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Ko one right there?

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Oh the dentist Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Let's go downhill for our next trick. Will it be
a trick or a treat for us?

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
On?

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Man's got no motherfucker helmet? Yeah, Oh, he's gonna have
road rash.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Let's see what tricks he's got though.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Okay, Oh, holy fuck, he's I mean, he's He's dying
at the end of this right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
This is the last we see of him. This is
going to extinguish the flame that is his life.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
He went out doing what he loved though. Look, you
gonna give him. He fucking disintegrated. I don't know, but
it wouldn't be the first death we've showed him this segment.

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
If so, he disintegrated, he did, Yeah, they hit him
with the hydrogen bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
He just fucking look.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
You ever get drunk and dude gymnastics.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
Uh, my daughter does get in the drunk part. I'll
get drunk, she does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
My wife will be like, hey, let's go, you know,
do something with the tuchster and that there'll be a
thing that involves me like cart wheeling and ship And
I'm like, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
No, I'm forty something years old. That luke, it's time
to rate that TAT ten being a master piece. One
being getted out of here. There's somebody who got a
pfl tat of Alfie Davis with Don Davis in the background.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
So this is a negative twelve thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Even with the design and the craftsmanship, this is a
negative eight billion. So you got mad when when mister
Heboss had Emily Witmeyer on his forearm, this person has
Don Davis on their leg forever.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
Yeah, I mean it's a nice moment for Alfie Davis,
who is the fighter picture, but to have I mean, dude,
he looks like a peeping Tom in this fucking tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Don looks excited.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's the worst tattoo I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
Oh my gosh. Okay, let's go to this headtat Luke
one to ten here, let's rate it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
I don't know what kind of jobs you get with
a tattoo like this. However, in terms of the mc escher, yes,
visual element of it, I give it a solid eight
or nine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
What do you make of the jaws one coming up
his neck?

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
That's closer to a four?

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Final one Luke e t phone home time?

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
The extra testicle?

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Yo? Nine and a half?

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Someone got a third ball?

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
We had a guy in college who had one ball.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Yeah, we had one. High school called him Uni.

Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
So we called this guy the Unibomber. And this was
before the Uni Bomber was caught. We'd be like, well, yo,
we found him FBI, we were called the bomber. But
he would he'd be talking to chicks and I would literally,
drunk as fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
I would go up to him from my arm around
and be like, Yo, you don't know anything about this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
He's got one testicle and can't wait to show you
he'd be like, get the fuck up off me.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
But it was great, and I had this roommate my
first apartment for five years. It is a big time
ladies man. He was a lot older than us. He
used to go up to you at a bar if
you were talking to a chick, and he'd step in
front of you and go, he don't fuck and then
like try to mac the girl, and it was like.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Yeah, you hung out with losers.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
It was a real sea.

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
The guy I told you about, by the way, who
was the Uni bomber, ended up being a lawyer at
Facebook or now Menace.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
So he did. He did all right for himself.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
They called this Game seven World Series the best of
all time. We're up there with it. Did you see
any of this?

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
Yeah, man, Yamamoto was fucking just throwing heaters from the mound.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Never forget World Series hero Theovon.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
I don't know if you saw theo Von's home run
last week. What was the reaction to that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Have you noticed that?

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Was that? Caitlin Jenner? Who was that? Who was that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
I don't know, but it was incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Who was that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
That was an all time reaction to that? I mean
that was I mean, what do you? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
What do you that's that?

Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
Bit will be like, Yo, what'd you think about Benjamin
Franklin's triple double? And people like I loved it?

Speaker 6 (01:45:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Yeah, nobody knows. Nobody knows anything, Luke. Have you ever
wanted to learn new languages? Like maybe Estonian?

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
How'd you say?

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Twelve months in Estonian? Cox taste good?

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
What coos taste good?

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
I'm not learning Estonian?

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
What the whole thing? Ah, it's time to rate that commode.
But we're gonna miss the first one, and it was
the best one of the group. But let's go to
the next one. This is a toilet at James Madison
University Stadium in Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
That's out of ten.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
That's not bad, right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
You're on the forty yard line there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Yeah, like basically the press box dropping a deuce.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
Why would you not just get a shitty seat and
then literally get a shitty seat.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
I'm saying, let's rate this next commode, Luke. It's definitely
a mouthful.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
I take a dumping that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Okay, that's a good one. I don't mean to toot
anyone's horn, but check out this French horn inspired one.
Luke that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
You tea bag this one. I mean, I don't know
what you do with that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
You can't miss. You just get it in there.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
And you know you like the splashback on this one.
If you're not paying close attention, can you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Press like the buttons we'll make what can you play
notes while you're you?

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Tell me?

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
All right? Hey, Luke, if you're going to pass out anywhere,
never pass out at the Johnny Rockets Diner. All right?
I mean, look at this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
My man is st rugg alin.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Oh my oh nice back, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:47:08):
I've seen that before at like the bar, and someone
just couldn't hold it together anymore and they just go.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Look, it's smoke them if you got them time here
at Have you seen this ship? This is how you
overdose on weed, which is your dream?

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
Once again, this next statement I'm about to give will
serve as my power of attorney. I would like to
die this way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Please.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
You could not survive that for more than what thirty seconds?

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
I hope not?

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
Yeah, I hope long, Luke, you can't live through.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
This, Okay, So this I would be willing to do.

Speaker 6 (01:47:40):
I saw one recently where you stand in a giant
bong and they fill up the bong with someone.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Yeah, but you literally take Yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
That's what I want. I want to not get out
of it one thing.

Speaker 6 (01:47:50):
If you want to die, but like, sure, when I die,
I want to die that way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
But I don't want to die today. I want to
just get high.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
So like, I feel like that's pretty hard. If I
can die that way, I might just pick it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
You ever get your boys together in a pool and
then somebody's like, let's do a jerk circle. You're like,
instead of that, let's do this. That's good stuff, right,
It's like a team effort.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
Holy shipballs.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
You get in a pool with a bunch of men for.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
This, right, I'd make an exception.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Yeah, looks like a Dagistani hot tub. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
I like the guy's shirt twenty four to seven. He
is almost beast in twenty five eight.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
That's what I'm saying. I also have some Christmas gift
ideas for Tukes. When you feel she's appropriately ready here, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
I mean this is this is not quite the level
she's at. Okay, okay, you know she's still building princess castles,
but this might be next.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
All the leaves have fallen Luke, at least in my backyard.
But watch off for these spiky, prickly berries that are around.
Oh first, first, sorry, sorry, first I missed that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
Lease don't rain.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
That's a hell of a cloud right there, that don cloud.

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Sorry, that's that's that Roko safreddi Crown.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Let's go to these dark berries. This is wild. I
don't know what that is, but it's great. I watched
that video so often. It's ridiculous. You love crazy Russians, Yes, yes,
I do. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Remember this guy picked Russians over Brazilians for Etracula and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
I will uh Luke. We closed with I once saw
this band in two thousand and one.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Here's a little ditty I like to call Boulevard of
Melted Beams, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
And I know that that was insensitive, Luke. So I
do want to close by saying enough with these conspiracies
theories regarding nine eleven. In fact, there's a video that
should put the debate to ust.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
Nine to eleven was not an inside job. It was
an outside job.

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
It happened outside in New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
And conversation the end of segment, Luke, what did you
think in the end? I mean it was a challenging
you know what. Yeah, that's like when you bid and
setback on like a two four six, you know seven.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
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brings a Bone theme to the main event. Will you
be live streaming that?

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Hell yeah, we got two Bone themes on that card,
both of them fighting on this card.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Live stream for that. I'll also have a new prop
quiz Friday. We got Danny Sigura Versu Jose Young's Okay,
who goes into what happened with the last one?

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Did you see that comeback around the world and the
Baine with a huge comeback winning.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
And what was the score that he was losing to brons.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
That it was like almost two thousand to negative.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Two Ron Setter had like oney seven hundred and fifty.
Bain was in the negative. And then he went on
a run and got like every question right to close
the show and dominate it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
You know what been surprising?

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
He was entertaining too.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
If I have to meet that guy in the in
the in the championships for ten dollars, did you say
ten dollars? Well, so I got one hundred bucks for
winning season one, but if I win the Champions League
game like the PFL Road to Dubai Champion Series, it's
only twenty bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
That sounds yeah, yeah, prop quiz is the pfl.

Speaker 6 (01:52:08):
Of we only do brackets. We have we'll have ten champions.
You'll never know who's actually the champion.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
It'll be very confusing. It'll be great.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Well, a Belding with two building with two Beldings, one
of whom is Balding double bomb theme. This weekend, can
we experience live coverage on the Luke Thomas Channel. I might.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
My wife is going to be out of town for
work and so I'll be with two STO and BLA,
so we'll have to see how Boiler can watch her.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
All right, Well, we will be back this Friday, eleven
am Eastern Morning Combat Live in direct or remote episode
Getting you fired up for Bone theme versus Brown and
I believe also we have ericson Lupin versus Virgil or
Tease Junior. You know what, not a bad fight, very
good fight. Four not for a title, but the winner
might get boots and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
A that's a again title or not. So it's only
ten rounder.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
I don't know that you can do twelve round on
title fights, but I think that we're building toward a
Nortiz boots fight if it all plays out that way,
that you don't even need a title. It's the biggest
fight in the division.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
I hope they'll be get them because I agree that's
the one to get.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
That's maybe the winterer fights fondor I don't know. I'm
just trying to matchmaker. You know, boxing used to be
a thing. I used to love that sport.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
You know, well it's dying so like a fetus.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Fortunately, Hey, Ken, I want to thank Ken and Nader
as well for their great work today.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
They do a great job, especially when you consider that
they're not sober, how well they're able to press all
the buttons.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Ken six seven on us here, he's you know, he's
hitting us with that right there. That's great. Ship. Uh
we are morning Combat. We'll be here again Friday. Thank
you for joining. Thank you for playing, Luke Thomas. Do
you have a message to the people, like a word
of hope something? What should they cling onto this week?
Their own fecal matter? M.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
The love I have for my child makes me so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
That's great, you know, so great to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
Yeah all right, yeah, yes, I mean that sincerely for.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Luke Thomas's fatherhood. I'm Brian Campbell. Thank you so much
playing Take care of yourself. We appreciate it a long way,
but until then we're out of here.

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