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Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Fight week. It's Monday, November tenth of the twenty fives,
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Speaker 2 (01:38):
They probably weren't blue. No, I know those marines right,
They probably emptied the chamber you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, they probably did.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
How come we never shout out Osborne on this day?
She some gave all and she did Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, yeah, some gave all and all gave some. You
know what I mean. That's how it goes. Do you
know what that you know that who said that quote?

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Francis Scott Key right as he was writing the National Anthem.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah not at all. But okay, very good, thank.

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You, thank you very much. All Right, Hey, we're gonna
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the Meadow Larks Studio in Manhattan, New York. It is
UFC three twenty two pregame preview LT again. What can
the people expect here? Wholesome version?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh, wholesome version. Oh I'll have to edit it then. Well,
Oscar Willis is going to be there. I don't know
how wholesome it's going to be. But listen, you've sat
through two weeks of betting scandals and otherwise fairly mediocre
to less than mediocre cards. But all of that turns
around big time this week three twenty two and a
level card, if ever there was one, lots to be

(04:25):
excited about. Oscar Willis is gonna bring it. I don't
know why we wouldn't have a good time.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
His shirt will be off at some point.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Right, regrettably but probably probably all right.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Thank you, MK, of course. Brought to you by Quervo.
Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that
invented tequila quick. Hello to the third member of our team,
a bong enthusiast producer, director son of a horned dub
fellow from down Under Hey. It's Luke Nocida of main
card minute fame, L I L how are.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You, buddy?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I'm hypes, guys, I'm hyped for UFC three twenty two
fight week. You know, we just came up a great
Apex card, and dare I say great?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It was?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It was kind of fun, dude, five or five finishes
in the main card, by the way, the way.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
It looked on paper, it was like eh, and I
feel like it played out like, oh, that was actually
a fun time.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's what Dana told me in a drama. Don't until
the card happens, right, Luke.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's right. It's the worst logic imaginable, which would make
it defend that you could defend literally any card.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Ever, at that point, you know, Luke, I saw your
buddy forty five slash forty seven at the Redskins game yesterday,
rousing a reaction from the crowd. Will he be able
to change the name of your beloved football team?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean it seems unlikely, but I would never count
it out. The problem you have is number one, just
on a basic level, the naming rights are typically sold
for like tens of millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well to the stadium, not to the team.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You mean, change the name of the team back to
the Redskins.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, you had you had alerted me that the head
of this nation would like that team to rename its
team in his honor.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No rename they want to name that. He wants the
stadium named after Oh.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I thought it was going to be like the Washington
Trumpeteers or something.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
No. No, No, he wants the stadium named after him. But
I'm like, just on a practical level, a that's at
least five years away, potentially more, and he might not.
I mean, I'm just saying he's old. I don't know
what his health situation is going to be like then.
And more to the point, do you have to sell
that stuff for like tens of millions of dollars? Like yeah,
seems now might they name the street around it for him?
Or like Trump Field at you know whatever park or what?

(06:30):
All of that seems possible, But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'd like to see like the Maga Ball, it'd be
like a dome stadium for the for the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, you could everyone could take turns. It's like there's
a fake Nancy Pelosi desk where everyone could go and
just take dumps on.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It, just smear stuff across it. Yeah, that's great, that's fantastic, Luke,
any quick update on your life or any you know,
mental revelations you've come upon lately.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Uh finished a couple of books over the weekend that
I was really trying to sit down and read. My
wife left for a business trip and so but you know,
obviously we got I got some help here with a
boy least, so I took some time to just read
over the weekend. Oh my god, you know great that
felt just to like quietly spend a night being able
to like pour over my books. It's like the happiest
it made me in quite quite some time.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I was really happy to lost the attention spend to read. Luca,
that's an unfortunate situation.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know what. Let me say something very quick about that.
That's a real thing. Absolutely, it's a real thing. It's
called reading stamina. But like anything else, you can actually
just train that. Just set o'clock, read five minutes at
a time, then ten, then fifteen, then twenty to thirty.
You don't need to read more than an hour if
you won't want to. That's like, really I would say,
a good goal to get to. But you can absolutely
get all of that back. You just have to focus,

(07:40):
all right.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I'll learn how to retrain my dragon here, Luke and
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That's all I got for you. Hey, it's time to
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Either way, be here at the end of the program.
Topic number one, though, takes us back to the Apex

(08:44):
the Warehouse. It was UFC Fight Night on Saturday, a
welterweight main event pairing first time headliners as Gabriel bone
Fime of Brazil sent a statement of sorts to the
rest of the division with a brutal second rounds TKO
of rude boy Randy Brown and the number fourteen ranked
bone Theme fulfilled his pre fight prediction of a second

(09:07):
round stoppage by systematically breaking Brown down with calfkicks before
finishing it via knee strike, now writing a four fight
win streak six in one overall in the UFC. Here's
my question to e lt. What was the major difference
that you saw between the version of bone Feme on
Saturday night and the one who had struggled enough, whether

(09:30):
it be the disputed win over Stephen Thompson or the
loss to Nicholas Dalby where we had legitimate questions coming
into this fight.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I'm not well, it's a great question because I'm not
sure if we learned something. I mean, you always learned
something new in a new fight, so I don't mean
it in that sense, but I mean this is kind
of the issue, Right, Randy Brown was just kind of
always in range the whole time, and he got his
leg chewed to pieces as a consequence. Right, And and

(10:02):
so the point I'm trying to make is, through his
pressure or Bondfime being able to pull him, it stylistically
worked out in a way that was pretty advantageous for him,
and I not realized he made an adjustment, you know,
in the second part of the fight or whatever, the
second round. But the point I'm trying to make me
see is how much of what we saw from Bondfime's

(10:22):
very good performance here, because that's what we should say,
it's clearly a strong return you got there, how much
of that was from some kind of leveling up process
that happened either before during the bout itself, or how
much of it was due to some stylistic influences kind
of creating the circumstances that you've got. I tend to
lean more towards the latter in that case more than

(10:44):
the former, in part because I would need to see
someone that wasn't necessarily stylistically giving him things to work
with more easily, and then seeing how he overcomes some
of that. And we didn't really get an opportunity for that.
But like you know, BC, to the point that you like,
what'd you get from Bonfiem? The leg kicks I thought
were trum. I mean, he just kept going back to
it over and over and over and over again. But

(11:07):
more than that, you saw eventually Randy Brown try and
throw a lot in combination in these exchanges, and you know,
at times Bonfieme took the bait, but not really he
got the better of those the vast majority of the times,
or a bare minimum, you know, certainly avoided the worst.
And it made Brown resort to worse and worse and
worse either habits or choices, to the point where he

(11:29):
was bending over at the end. Then he got fed
that knee and got polished off. Bonfim had fed him
that knee earlier in that fight and it landed, but
not to the same degree. So to me, it was
it was a very very great example of what you
can get in the UFC when someone has i would say,
a diverse array of targets, who tends to take offense

(11:49):
by the scruff of the neck and then apply it.
I'm just not sure I saw anything there that told me, Oh,
the guys who he lost to. Oh, he'd beat them
now maybe, but I need to see it.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Actually I saw stuff. I gotta be honest with you
with my white bel eyes. Look, there'd been some inconsistencies
in Gabriel Bonfie's game, sometimes too aggressive, different things that
have maybe led to the one defeat and of course
the questionable win over wonder Boy. And it's one thing
to say ahead of a fight. I mean, by the way,
we'll talk about Mayra Bueno Silva briefly. She said she

(12:21):
almost guaranteed she was going to get a stoppage win
on Saturday, and I don't even think she's going to
be employed anymore after that loss. Where So it's one
thing to say I've made these changes, I've learned these
lessons from these tough fights. It's another thing to apply
apply it. I thought Bonefem applied it. He wasn't overly aggressive.
He came out in more of a counterstance, obviously focusing
on that calf. But if you think about it under

(12:42):
the terms of the way Dominic Cruzo eloquently presented it,
and by the way, a fight night without a biz
ping was wow, Thank you Lord on that one the
biggest advantage for Randy Brown was going to be striking
head to head, specifically behind that nearly six inch reach advantage.
So how did bonfin take that away? By constantly going
out after the CAFs and slowing him down and keeping

(13:02):
him out of rhythm. I think Brown thought Bombfime was
going to come after him aggressively. Instead he came at
him very calculated, very poised, never really overly rushed. It
didn't put himself in a position to gas out. Although
obviously the fight only went around and a half so
we didn't see where it was going to go from there.
But it was like really damn calculated and precise, in

(13:23):
my opinion, using those advantage to hurt and slow down Brown,
even if Brown was taking an unconsciousble amount of those
kicks without checking all of them, And what did that do?
That set him up for the finishing strike in the
second round. I saw somebody who was confident, but mixed
with that confidence was the poise and knowing that I
have to execute when I climbed to the higher levels.

(13:43):
And I don't think Randy Brown's a world beater. You know,
he's a good fighter. He's a tough out, so you
can only take so much from this. But if this
is the direction Bonefim's going to go moving forward, then
in my opinion, he's moving forward directly into the direction
of title contention, or maybe not you know, true title
contention in the top three or four, but top ten contention,

(14:04):
which is not nothing here coming in ranked fourteenth, coming
out of it looking for a big fight. And we'll
get into that big fight in a second. But when
we say things like this lower third below of sending
a statement, do you believe in that? Do you agree
with that? Was there a statement sent at the very
least to the rest of the division that I'm closing
up the holes in my game and figuring out how

(14:27):
to make my strengths more efficient, more effective?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Mmm, I'm less convinced by this analysis.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
It was passionate and well delivered.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
With a lot of yeah. I mean, I think you're
something to be said for.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Like.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
He wasn't recklessly I mean, listen, this is what I'll
give you right Like he was absolutely methodical, And I
think that's really the important part. He had a clear
idea of what he wanted to do in this fight
and executed it on it really well. Like you that
that to me is like, what I I saw is
a guy who Okay, here's my plan, and I'm going
to apply it steadily, consistently, and in this case, very

(15:07):
successfully throughout the duration of the bout. Took a little
bit of time, but once he got going, it was
never looking back. That to me is actually quite important.
But dude, we're talking about one seventy. Like, just realistically, BC,
looking at the top ten, who do you favor him
over in that space? Long? Have you got the rankings up?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
We also, I can get him up Kobe's number ten.
I know that much because he called out Kobe. I
think Gilbert's eleven. Uh, Protest is nine, Morales is eighty.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
No, No, Gary is six. No.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
No, you didn't feel like this was the beginning of
him going into the direction of being a more complete fighter.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I would say that I could not rule that out.
I think that's on the table. But what you're asking
me is, did I feel like I saw enough proof
everyone's going to be different me personally? No, I didn't
see it. And it sounds like I'm backing on the guy.
He had a great performance. In fact, this was like,
I mean, you could do he he put his stamp
on the fight early. And let's be honest, Brown was

(16:10):
never in it. There was really never a moment Brown
was like really pushing back on him. Brown kind of
survived and neutralized at times, for sure, but he didn't
really ever put it on Bonfim Bonfieine put it on him.
But given the way that Brown was fighting, and given
some of the other limitations that we know about Bonfime,
and and this is the important part, given how effing

(16:31):
stacked one seventy is, I think we need to be
a little bit more cautious in what we're saying this
means for the future. It's a tough road ahead of him.
Even if I grant he certainly performed very well on
Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, I thought it was a very impressive step forward
in the direction we need. We'll see where he goes
from there. We'll talk about the chaos that could be
next for him. But first quickly, I do want to
talk about the stoppage from Mark Smith, which I do
agree in real time had me going whoa, WHOA, what's
going on here, especially because Bumfing fell at the exact
same time as Brown when their feet tangled. I thought

(17:06):
it took just one look at a replay to realize
that Mark Smith made the right call. I mean, look,
when you look at this still picture of the idea
that Brown was concussed on the way down with the
knee and that maybe it took hitting his head on
the canvas to wake back up, and even though he
did wake back up, his eyes did not seem to
be in the uh, you know, as clear as possible.

(17:27):
What were your thoughts in totality on the stoppage.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I definitely wanted to see it a second time, but
I actually I hadn't tweeted as much. I thought in
real time it looked okay to me, but I actually
thought I had more doubt about it when they showed
the replay, because, as you indicate, by the time referee
Mark Smith is there separating the two, Brown begins to
roll to his base right. But at the same time,
I think it's a good stoppage. We kill referees when

(17:52):
they make bad ones. I'm not saying this is like
the most excellent stoppage I've ever seen, but I think
in general he definitely got it right. And it's a
tough situation. The issue is, whenever you have falling, what
you always want to look for. I think is like
it's one thing, but it's one and a half things,
which is uncontrolled falling body weight is going to be
the kind of thing that a referee is gonna notice

(18:13):
because that indicates you're not really in control of your faculties.
You know, even if you get flash knocked down, but
like you just sit to your butt and you're right
back up, there's still some method of control on the
descent and the and the and the reconstituting of the
position very quickly. Brown fuck like went all the way
backwards and then his head snap back. And that's the
second part we see is when they have uncontrolled head

(18:35):
head like collapsing backwards like that. These are terrible signs
and a referee sees that they're gonna intervene, especially if
he's right there close and he probably heard how loud
it was or was able to see Randy Brown's eyes
as you indicated. But that falling body weight with the
uncontrolled head going back, Man, you got to give referees
a break if that kind of thing happens. You know,

(18:57):
even if you didn't like the call, again, I have
no problem with it, even if you didn't like to
call just that demarcation line is gonna it's gonna make
it real difficult for him.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I thought the replay confirmed that it was the right call.
You're telling me that you thought the replay brought more questions.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Uh, again, there's no point where I thought it was
a bad stoppage. I think it's a good stoppage. What
I'm saying is what I was looking for was at
the moment of intervention by the referee, what was Brown
showing in terms of his faculties. And the answer is
not enough. Like the stoppage was good, but it was
better than it was on the descent right, Like if
you watch the replay, his eyes go like like you know,

(19:33):
one way or the other, and then when he turtles
and then looks up, eventually he's a little bit more
with it. But obviously the stoppage already happened. To the
point again, I'm saying, did Mark Smith make a did
he act on a reasonable basis to call a halt
to that contest? I absolutely think that he did. Yes.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Brutal, brutal strike. It really was flush. Seemed to knock
him out on the way down. As we mentioned after
the fight, you got it not only the in cage
call out of the somehow still ranked Colby Covington. But
you got a little uh force put behind that, a
little spice sprinkled on top. Yeah, you know what I'm
gonna do. I'm gonna make the call to our friends
over at Cuervo for some shots fired. Of course you

(20:19):
already knew shots fired brought to you by Quervo. Now
is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.
Here is Gabrielle Bumfame at the post fight press conference
explaining why he not only wants Colby Covington next, he
wants to put him out of the business for good.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Saw the Kobe Covington call, It's great call out, man,
So what about that call out?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Really?

Speaker 6 (20:38):
What about Colby? I'm sorry made you really want to
call him out? And obviously you want to wanting to
fight him?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, vim's.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
I ownio in through hunky.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Asudi deb Sapozenta.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
He's the one that's holding up the weight glasses, the
one not fired holding up He's ranked the weak last
and I need to be the one to retire him.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
And would you say there's a little bit of a
added motivation from what he said about Brazil a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
You buy some way to put us?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is that? I mean shit? Madiso Guchi.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
Absolutely, he needs to be corrected and I will do that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Covington, of course, is thirty seven years old, hasn't fought
in what is approaching a year, and has lost five
of his last seven, although he continues to be ranked
to number ten right now in this division. Not everyone
loved this call out. However, Let's bring in friend of
the program A bron Aaron Bronstetter, who hit to Twitter
afterwards and said, calling out Colby Covingon in twenty twenty

(21:41):
five is like calling out Terrence Crawford for a boxing match.
Wasted Mike time, Luke, do you agree with AB's take
right here?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't understand the comparison, but what okay, okay, ok okay.
So what he's saying is calling out Crawford is a
waste of time, not because Colby and Crawford are situated
in similar ways within their respective sports, but that it's
not it's going to elicit the same kind of non

(22:13):
noncommittal response or no response at all. Yeah, that's there's
probably some truth to that. Although I actually feel like,
I mean, what is my level of interest in Bonfiem
versus COLBYM I wouldn't say it's particularly high. But b see,
if you're bon Theme and you see that, we have
to back up a second here, why is Colby Covington
still ranked? This is insane to me? This is like

(22:35):
the most outrageous, ridiculous, what is happening here kind of moment.
So if you're bon Theme and you see that there's
this kind of weirdness in the rankings market, and you
just had a nice win, which we could all say,
no matter what, it was a very nice win, why
wouldn't you call him out? It may yield nothing. I
understand that, like a Colby might be looking at that
and say, Bonfieme, who cares? But if I'm Bonfime, I'm at, like,

(22:58):
what is the easiest fight he can get in that division?
In the top ten? I realized that, well, you can
say the tenth ranked guy in this case. But even
if the rankings were shuffled a little bit more, I
would still point to Colby in that.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think it's a brilliant call. Actually I disagree with
ab and the most the biggest reason why for me is.
First of all, he explained, it get a guy out
of the rankings that a nobody likes B that shouldn't
be in there. And why is he in there? You
could always argue because he's the perfect villain B side
for somebody on the way up. He's a gatekeeper at
this point. Also, some people argue that when you get
paid a lot of money, and Colby certainly does, they'll

(23:31):
keep you in the top ten to justify paying you
that much, to put you in fights where you can
do what I said, put over the younger fighters. But
the biggest reason I agree with this call out at
this exact moment is because this Saturday, a UFC three
twenty two, we have three weltzerweight fights on the main card,
all of which affect the top ten of the rankings,
including a Muscye title fight. So the point of that being,

(23:53):
there's not going to be a bunch of immediately available
ranked fighters. Why don't you pick out the type of
name that will draw some crossover interest, that'll put your
name over by getting the rub against them. What casual
m fan has heard is Gabriel Bomfeme right now, yet
he's riding a four fight win Straker and has now
some consecutive victories over some decent names. To me, that's

(24:15):
the perfect way you beat an old guy, you get
the rub, then you catapult in there to the type
of you know, mid top ten opponent that can take
you literally into the title picture. So I had no
problem with it. Some of that for me too, is
that I also just want Colby out of these rankings.
I mean, it's just ridiculous Long Island. Look, you've been
speaking in our private chat. Why don't you just say
it to these people's faces.

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Well, everyone's wondering why Kobe's still number ten.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I mean he lost a title fight to Leon Edwards,
who's still ranked number four, and he lost to Joaquim
Buckley last December, who's ranked number seven. Like, I'm not
saying he deserves that spot, but he has fought within
a year, and he lost to two top ten guys.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
It's not like he's losing the scrubs.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, but he hasn't been a top fifteen guys.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Win. You're right, but yeah, I mean, compare his record
of activity and achievement to literally anyone around him. It
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm not justifying it.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I'm just saying, well, I guess I am, but I'm
not a little bit. I'm not personally justifying it. I'm
just saying I see why he's still ranks, if that makes.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Any sense, Dude, I would love to be ranked off
of just fucking losing. I'd be sick, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, Brian Orteka gets that a lot. Unfortunately as well.
They they love leaving these veterans in there. Although I
guess I can kind of understand the strategy connected to
that right there. We do have some words here postfight
from Gabriel Baumfeme about his performance and uh, how he
is progressing and evolving.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
To Luis, I feel great, the main event, a great performance,
a great finish. Let's go to next one. My striking
is my game, my essence from strike and my my
backgrounds from strike, and I believe in the game plan.
I follow my strategy and it happened. I knocked him out.
Nothing different to me. I prepared for this. I trained

(25:57):
for the main event. I was visualizing the events, so
I trained for it. I was prepared for There was
no difference. I felt great. Oh I don't know what
he thinks, guys, I U I said, I I believe
I'm a guy from the I like trading.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm a striker.

Speaker 8 (26:12):
I approved with Josh Thompson, now I approve with Randy Brown,
and I'm here to keep getting better and bring the
next guy.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Think.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
I believe every fight's a learning too for me, even
that the winds and the losses, the lossould will be
putting different on different level. I knew that I had
to to level up, and that's what I think I do.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I level up every time.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
Every fight, I get better, and every fight I evolve
and I grow so I can come better the next fight.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Cold you to give him to day.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
Well, I believe I deserve a top ten I would
have been fighting around to deserve top ten. But we'll
see what they do. I'll keep doing what I'm doing
and getting better and waiting for a name.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I love that he called wonder boy Josh Thompson. There
By the way, a little little slip of the tongue
for the only man to finish an IDAs via head kick,
uh luke to close on the bone theme discussion. If
he doesn't get but does get an additional top ten opponent,
wouldn't joking Buckley be the perfect fight coming off a
loss to Usmann, which snapped a six fight win streak.

(27:09):
That would kind of be the perfect next step. Let's
see what you got about against that style? Do you disagree?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I mean, honestly, I don't know what the promotion wants
for Bonfime, which really is maybe the most important consideration here.
But dude, do you pick him over number eleven Gilbert Burns?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Really yes, Long Island? Would you pick him over Burns?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'd have to see the odds, but I will say
Gilbert has kind of let me down a lot in
his last I.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Mean, he's definitely he's almost forty for crying out loud,
like it's he's long, and I don't know, I would
need to see it. Jeff Neil's also sitting at twelve, Like,
I don't know, man, I would I would want to see.
I mean, Buckley is sitting a tough seven.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, Jeff Neil's a tough fight for him. I'd fully agree.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, maybe maybe Jeff Neil, And then we'll go from there.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Our boy Gilberto has lost four in a row and
has been stopped in two of those lukes, So it's like,
you know, I love Gilbert Burns. That the dude's thirty nine, and.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah he's old. I mean he's you know, he's on
I mean literally, he's on his second professional career. The
first one was in jiu jitsu.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So just don't just don't judge Gabriel by what his
bro's been doing, which.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Is well clearly of the bond, Theime brothers. Gabriel is
the one that's got some upside we can Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, it's good old Ismai. I'll turn it into Lance
Evans over there, shout out to that guy. All right,
let's go to topic number two right now. It is
the UFC Apex undercard, uh, highlighted here by the Cole
main event. How about flyway Joseph Bopo Morales making quick
work a veteran Matt Schanell in a first round submission win,

(28:37):
improving to two to zero in his second stint with
the UFC and the tough season thirty three winner pretty
much made it look easy from start to finish for
as long as it lasted, and it didn't last that long.
Bopo went on to say quote that he matches up
great with current flyweight champion Alexandre Pantosia. How much of
a threat do you believe the thirty one year old

(28:58):
Morales is appearing to be luke now that he's riding
a five fight win streak and seems to be very
comfortable here in a second stint in the octagon.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, I gotta say this is this was a nice win.
The way he was able to capture the crucifix, the
way he was able to finish b see, like on
the finish he knew which way. I mean you understand,
like when you work crucifix positions like that, you begin
to troubleshoot what the escapes tend to look like or
the resistance to it. And what you can tell from

(29:26):
that is he is so well versed from that position
that he knows what you know, what majority what their
opponents are going to do, and which way they're going
to roll. So he allows him to come to his
base so that he can lock up the guillotine choked.
That was real slick. That was real, real slick. You know,
the guy wins the Ultimate Fighter on a split decision.

(29:47):
But then to the point you raise, comes out here
and he's got back to back submissions in two fights,
but both from this year. I thought this was very impressive. Again,
these APEX cards with guys who are, you know, outside
traditional rankings. Placement makes it a little hard to know
what it means for the future and what it does
for the replacement. But I can just say that was
Matchanell's is a experienced opponent who's beaten some good guys

(30:11):
for sure. You know. The only issue for me is
he's kind of flirted with retirement then unflirted with it,
so that, you know, always creates a question in my
mind about, you know, if you're going to get the
best version of themselves. But nevertheless, he is still a
good opponent, a credentialed one, and Morales kind of ran
the table on him. That was very, very impressive for me.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, long Island, Luke, and I want to correct you
quickly and just saying moreless on the semi final of
Tough excuse me, I apologize the final, which counted as
an official UFC fight, was the stock the fair enough. Yeah,
very good performance out of there. But I do have
to ask you this, Lukey is very confident. He, by
the way, challenge the UFC in the postfight interview to
bring the promotion back to Sacramento, which had me questioning, like, oh, yeah,

(30:54):
he's right. We don't see them there in that in
that MMA hotbed. Often? Is that because Force I'd put
their flag down there so aggressively, luc or not?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I mean, I feel like Strike Force is more of
a Bay Area promotion. Scot Cooker was a season ticket
holder for the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
No way, dude, he was Sacramento. That's that's They lived
and died in Sacramento for a while.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
They lived and died in San Jose.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh, you're right, I'm confusing Sancramento and San Jose.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Like I lived in he was right to die for
San Jose. I went to I went to the Tito
Ortez Fair. Who was the U who was the the
Belatoor light heavyweight, the tall lanky one that he beat
Liam mcgeary I think it was his name.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I went to that one in San Jose and there
was there was U posters that are not posters, I
should say, advertisement all over town for it.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, my fall in the Sacramento screw up there. The
UFC was last in Sacramento, according to Long Island Luke.
In July of twenty nineteen, Jermaine de Random me that
quick finish of aspen lad in the main event right there?
All right, Luke real quick to close on morales here
he appealed to the kids with this six seven celebration.
Uh did that turn you off at all? And what

(32:00):
do you think of his inventive chest here? Just having
the vagiene in the middle of his pecks there covered
but nothing else. It's kind of like Kimbo, who you know,
really revolutionized different chest hair design people.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
This is Brian eversall erasure. You guys don't remember Brian
eversaw that he actually was the first one to do arrows.
I think maybe he did it after Kimbo. I can't
quite recall, but he was doing a lot of different
inventive stuff. The six to seventh thing is what my
daughter does, so you know, just for clarification, it would
have popped with that audience.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right, let's keep it going down here, Let's go
to the Walterway division. Euro Semitica admitted post fight that
he was quote super scared of Muslim Solikoff, yet delivered
a sixty three second ko Has the doctor become a
one seventy year worth watching or do you believe he's
still in feast or famine? Mode where he wins by

(32:51):
Ko and then gets Ko in the next fight.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I thought this was a nice win. He just marched
him down, dude. He marched him down and had him
backed up against the fence, are pretty close to it,
and then landed a big overhand, sat him down, then
finished him off. Dude. This was real good from Euro's metic.
I love this performance from him, and I love the
call out too. It didn't work because he didn't get
the bonus, but he was like, how am I not
getting bonuses? You just look at my fights in one

(33:15):
way or the other. These bamas are not going to decisions,
you know what I mean? Like, I'm a deliverer of action,
and in this particular case, I thought he had a
great argument for it. Again, hard to know what it
means exactly about you know, where the returning corners. But
he put two wins together. He's got this three out
of his last four. Let's see if he can keep
winning as he escalates. That's always the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, speaking of bonuses that never came, Chris Taco Padilla
used the entirety of his post fight interview to literally
beg the UFC for the fifty K bonus, saying it
would allow him to move his mom out of a
trailer park. What was ultimately more sad in your eyes
the fact that he put on that performance, literally begged

(33:54):
for it, and did not get the fifty k, or
the fact that his opponent is my old bone Fime
missed weight by five rounds and then completely gashed out
in round two in five pounds five pounds.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You said five rounds. I thought Chris Padilla Taco looked really,
really good here. As you indicated, his record is starting
to look a lot more impressive. So he had He's
never lost in UFC as the Lex five. Yeah, he
has no losses in UFC. He made his debut back
in April of twenty twenty four. As we indicated on Friday.

(34:28):
You know, the Jai Herbert win was nice, but I
didn't see necessarily. You know, he beat wrong Zoo and
James y on top. These are fine wins as a
starter pack kind of operation, but he didn't really know
what it means. But as you indicated, short notice opponent
misses comes in here and just forcefully puts it on him.
I mean, I don't know what's not to love. I

(34:50):
think it's been pretty instructive, by the way, long Isan
Lucas saying Chris Padilla has been a dog in all
four of his UFC fights and is four and zero.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let's go, man, this is exactly the kind of underdog
story you want. This thing is Apparently there's belief. Again,
I don't think I don't know if there's an official
UFC policy, but there's some kind of belief that if
the fighters beg for bonuses in a post fight, they
won't get they won't get money. And obviously that there
appears to be, if not a written rule, some kind

(35:20):
of informal adherence to that. I would say a couple
of things. I mean, first, I think it's kind of
instructive that the UFC's response to fighters begging for money
is penalization and not better pay. I think people should
take a little moment to sit with that. And the
other one I would say here is BC Like, whatever

(35:42):
your view on fighter pay is, I hope everyone understands
it at nothing and I do mean nothing will change
unless they are forced to change. Yes, unless there is
a court order like for example, with the anti ar
not anti trust, but the class action lawsuit, like unless
there's that kind of mechanism, or a law is passed

(36:04):
or something, unless the force of law is brought to
the table as a way to remedy pay disputes or
you know, pay shortages. What everyone would like to describe it,
It's gonna be what it's gonna be. And I hope
everyone is at least understanding of that basic fact.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I mean, if you can't get it from the organization,
you might as well get it from the guy with
the with the trench coat in the alley outside the
apex who's offering you seventy k to throw the fight
along out. Look, let me read to you the four
people who received fifty k bonus is on Saturday, and
you tell me if they deserved it more than taco.
Are you ready, sir, I'm ready, Yes, Gobriel Bonfieme yes,

(36:44):
CLD Yes, yes, Josh hokit.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
No no, because his opponent sucked and he's like beats
everyone by finished.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But it was a nice knockout. He folded, he looked fine,
but but Padilla really looked good.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Okay, And how about the curtain jerker Zach Reese when
it came fight absolutely submitted Jackson McVeigh, So it seems
like they maybe they did hold it against him for
calling them out. What are they factoring in here?

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Because Zach Reese got his ass beat in the first round,
He was an underdog going into round two, came back
and won. He was a huge favorite to start that fight,
by the way, So like, are they like, oh, he
showed resilience, he came back and won. Like Chris Padilla
accepted his opponent missing weight by five pounds, still took
the fight and finished.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
And still that's bullshit, man.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I thought it was pretty sad he didn't get it.
I also didn't like that he had to beg that
aggressively for it. He had a post fight press conference
talk where he was crying talking about his mom, And
I mean, I get it from the organization, you can't
bully them into a corner. But it continues to show
the disparity in the sport and the fact that guys
like Taco to Padilla, who were trying to become legitimate

(37:46):
contenders sometimes can't even afford the training camps necessary to
be in a position to do that.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
It just we just wort back up here. I mean,
there was obviously no betting discrepancies. This week, which was
great to see. I'm very happy no weird refereeing again.
You can debate about the Mark Smith stoppage in the
main event, but it didn't appear weird to me, no
matter what position you come to. It seemed to me
like a you know, one of those sort of standard
mma cases. But there was suggestion last week again there's
just people in the sport who are absolutely immune to evidence,

(38:16):
and there's nothing you can say to them about fight
or pay that will really get them to budge. But
a I'm gonna say one, I think the worm is
turning a little bit on this. I'm beginning to see
more fans sort of recognize there are these limits that
exist for a company that is flushed with cash probably
shouldn't be as egregious as they are. But more to
the point we see we were talking about this last week,
which is people make this argument about folks who throw fights,

(38:39):
as like, oh, this is one of integrity, and yet
obviously integrity is, if not the most important component, certainly
chief among them, right, I mean, yes, if you're willing
to engage in criminal behavior, then this speaks to something
about your character. However, the point to be made here
is people who are in financial distress or people who
can be financially less riched are clearly much more likely

(39:02):
to engage in that kind of behavior. And you can
see that this class of fighter good enough to make
it and win at the UFC, but not good enough
to make a lot of money. You can see why
they would be vulnerable to the as prey to the
betting predators, so to speak, whoever they may be, and
why this particular subgroup of fighter is being targeted. It's

(39:24):
really not very difficult to see that they're open their
right for the picking given the financial limitations that they
face day in day out.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I would agree with you on that one. Speaking of
cold the middleway, Christian Leroy Duncan when his third straight fight,
including his second consecutive spinny shit ko by brutally ending
Marco Tulio. First, we do have a cage side fan
footage of the stoppage if you want to talk about
Some people thought it came too late, thinking that Tulio

(39:53):
took too much of a beating, But Luke, will you
say this as you watch it is a time at
the very least for CLD to get a Wikipedia page.

Speaker 9 (40:01):
Is he coming out?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah? Yeah, cold, look real good. This was a real
nice win. I like this one from him. He really
put it on him. He was clever, he was physical,
you know, he had Tulio kind of on his heels
or the bare minimum, thinking a lot about what he
wanted to do, and the guy was, you know, he
was laying heavy lumber to him. So I really liked
this fight in this performance in particular. Again, some of

(40:24):
these guys on these cars, man, they're they're quietly putting together,
if not the most impressive runs you've ever seen, maybe
not that, but real redemptive, real important, you know, in
the trenches kind of work in their career, and it
deserves to be more broadly recognized.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Hey, speaking of trenches and speaking of redemption, how about
thirty eight year old Hyoni Barcelos. I couldn't believe this, Yes,
who co delivered with Ricky Simone an absolute bantamweight banger
over three rounds which featured high technical and defensive skills
and just a ton of accurate output. But in the end,
Barcello's winning a close decision to extend that current wind

(41:01):
streaked of four so much so that he's gonna get
some sound on this show. Right now talking about it.
Alto Mintfelish, I feel great.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
I literally closed the year with the Golden Key. I
have three wins in this year, so showing everybody that
I'm ready for our top contender ranked fighter, and I'm
ready for that. I think what differ rates made is experience.
I have a lot of experience, and these guys come
in and I'm ready to fight them.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Here's the deal I.

Speaker 10 (41:30):
Have.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm like wine.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I think the older I.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
Get, the better I get, the more experience I get.
So I feel like that my experience is making a
big difference in these wins versus guys, and I'm just
getting more experienced.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
So I'm just gonna keep getting better.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
You think tune Yogu Ricky has a style very similar
to mine, so I know he's gonna come high pace
with the rest with the boxing, but we studied it
a lot, so I focus on my boxing. You SI see,
I use my boxing board, but I take down defense.
I did get some takedowns and he got back up
on the feet, but that was my strategy to use
my boxing better.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
It worked for me.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
Done f great, so I would like to keep it going.
I do want to stop so I'll be ready to
fight probably March January next year. I'm proving to everybody
I'm gonna stay in shape, I'm ready to go, like why,
and it just keep getting better with age, and I'm
ready for twenty twenty six to the same thing I
did this year.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Look in theory, this shouldn't have happened. Yet he had
a beautiful body punch attack. That right upper cut was
on the money. How impressed were you overall with the
fact that he seems to be getting better with age.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I couldn't believe it. I thought this was where the
buck was gonna stop. And you know, I'm not saying
there's a scorecard for Simon, but what did you have
it as the third round being the swing round? That's
how I kind of saw it.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It was twenty nine to twenty eight on all three scorecards,
and I agree with that. Give him one in three, yeah, yeah,
I gave him two and three.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Two and three, that's right. I'm sorry, Yes, yeah, I
think that's right. So to me, man, I was so impressed,
as you indicated, Like dude, he just seems a lot
more buttoned up. They're just the pieces of the game
connect more easily. He's not as frustrated by a failed attack,
can reconstitute attack much easier than he did before. Again,
he seems much more defensively aware. I'm amazed by his cardio,

(43:08):
but I can't believe this guy is peaking near forty.
But by god, that's exactly what he's doing. He's earned
a big fight here and BC I would argue on
a much bigger card, and certainly a much better placement
on a much bigger card. You don't see old guys
out there, you know, providing a ton of value like this.
Good for him, and again, how far can he take it?

(43:29):
I thought it was gonna stop on Saturday, but he's
off to the races. Let's see how where he can
push it.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I love it. I'm all in on this story. This
is fun and he's getting better, like we say every time. Look,
the next topic probably should be a talk about Jacquelin
kavl Conti improving to ten and one and five and
zero in the UFC as maybe a legitimate women's bantamweight contender.
But it's hard not to lead with the Maira Bueno
Silva part of it. She fought for a vacant UFC

(43:54):
title last year January of twenty twenty four and sent
then she's winless in five with four consecutive defeats. Don't forget,
by the way, she gassed out in that Rocky penning
to total fight in round two, which was super disappointing.
And on Saturday against Cavalcanti she was lifeless. She refused
to cut down the distance, she got beat up from

(44:16):
the outside, she didn't seem to have a strong gas
tank for the three rounds, and this was after all
but guaranteeing a stoppage win and saying the very best
of her was about to come Luke at age thirty four,
forget about the very vest of her? Is this the
last of her? In probably a fall off that I
can really only compare to Hennen Barraw, although he had

(44:37):
achieved much more he was an interim and then full
champion and pound for pound ranked. But I cannot remember
somebody falling off this aggressively from legitimate title contention to
full on lifelessness.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, and again it's not like she's getting She had
the one stoppage, as you indicated via cut to Macon
chiassen chaon Jason, I'm teasing, but in other words, it's
still kind of hanging on. But BC, I don't know
how you felt. I thought she looked lifeless. I thought
she looked kind of out of ideas. I thought she

(45:13):
kind of looked like I'm not saying she was ever
a physical bruiser, that's not quite true. But she didn't
have much of that either. I don't know. I don't
know if she's had problems with weight cutsbe see and
it's really messed her up. You know, maybe she made
the way, but it messed her up. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
But there was a situation in Saudi where she women
weren't allowed in the sauna, so they had to dressed
her up like a man to be able to have
a chance at cutting weight.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
For that one, that's a little different. That's a little different.
But the point I'm trying to make is she might
be done. She might be done. I you know, I've
seen redemption stories. I've seen people turn it around thirty four.
She shouldn't be that far out of her prime. But
the way she's looking, it's not just that she's losing
to good opponents, which would be one thing. She's losing

(45:56):
to good opponents in what are otherwise deteriorating and lifeless performances.
And that's the part that I'm like, you know, it's
not like, dude, imagine she would lost the first two
rounds because she got batter but then with surge in
the third or something like that. That's really not what
you're seeing. You're not seeing someone who can rally. You're
not seeing someone who can sustain an attack for crying

(46:17):
out loud. You're seeing someone who's got some ability, but
it's just powered by an engine and I think a
fire more broadly, that appears to be missing.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, I mean shouts of cavalcante in a dead division.
She's on a nice little run. We'll see if she
continue it, but I don't even feel like she looked
great and dominant. Cruz was kind of ripping both fighters
for not stepping on the gas and closing the distance,
and I think he was right. Luke, former NFL player
who had a brief run there, and former regional MAGA
post fight screamer Josh Hokit had a very successful heavyweight

(46:50):
debut here in the UFC, making quick work of a
fellued fellow debutante in what was the guy's name, Hemenez
Jamenaja say, look, fast hands, power, athleticism. I didn't love
the post fight. You know, cut copy and paste chell
Son in rap. But what do you think about Josh

(47:11):
Hokitt's upside in this division?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Again, he wrestled at the collegiate level. He appears to
be a good athlete. He is a good athlete who
is relatively young in a division where youth and good
athleticism is in short supply. I don't know what the
win means. I didn't think he deserved to get the
bonus relative to the other folks on this card, who

(47:35):
I thought performed better and in more difficult circumstances. But whatever,
you get the idea. I you know, it was a
nice win. He should go far, but I don't know
what it means. Like Greg Hardy looked good on the
Contender series, you know, and then before everything really fell apart,
you were like, oh wow, this guy could be a
great thing. But we need to see so nice win

(47:58):
doesn't mean much.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well, he called out the explosive Walter Walker after the fight,
and even though Walker would go on to delete this post,
here was his initial reaction and now I can't read
it without my glasses. Luke, I'm old.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Can you read that, Josh hoke It? I want you next.
I'm gonna kick your head like a soccer ball and
force you to respect Brazil and our culture. Upos.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
All right, there you go? You down for that fight?
Or nah?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
It's an interesting fight because Walter Walker is a little
bit unknown as a kind of like, I mean, I
realize that we've seen him a bunch, but he just
keeps doing the same bit that shouldn't work against an
athlete like hok It. And if it doesn't, what else
is there? So there's some intriguing, intriguing elements to that fight.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
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won't slow you down. LT. We've got a loaded card,
at least for twenty twenty five standards. So from Islam
Mahachev's pursuit of immortality, the potential two division champion and
UFC CO record holder for consecutive wins, to the biggest
and most important women's about at least one of them
in MMA history. Saturday's loaded card is filled with many

(51:13):
things to talk about. What is the one element of
this card that either intrigues or excites you the most?
As we head into Saturday.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I think that it's both a showcase of this and
depending on the results, it could make the argument ironclad,
which is that there's a great argument to be made
BC that welterweight is the best division in the sport
right now. And there were times in the past where
that was the case, certainly, but there were times where

(51:41):
it was and it kind of fluctuated and it was
lost for a while, particularly as bantamweight surged, as lightweight surge,
and I think most people have been historically, at least
in the last few years, you know, kind of considering
one thirty five or one fifty five of the best
at times some of the top stuff going on at
one forty five with Vulcan Max and Iliotaporia. Maybe up
did the undid that some of that, But BC, just
look at one seventy right now. You've got three fights

(52:04):
just on the main card about one seventy the main
event itself, and then of course Sean Brady versus Michael Morales,
which could be a Number one contender fight. Then you've
also got Leon Edwards, former champ, ticking on Carlos protest.
Leon needs a win real badly. We're moving maybe the
most important division and maybe the best division forward in
a huge way to get some answers. But what it

(52:27):
really shows you is all the names that are not
on this list that are still actually quite relevant as well.
Perhaps a chief among them Ian Garyel who I know
has a fight coming up against Ballall. There's also Shofcott
rock Monov sitting out there. You know, what is it
going to mean if Islam wins and now he add
him as like a permanent fixture at least a semi
permanent fixture in this division. To me, there's this big

(52:47):
argument all the time, what's the best division in the sport?
You can make it now already, but I think after
Saturday it's going to be very very clear. One's seventy
is the division of Kings and we're in for a
great twenty twenty six if these guys can stay healthy
and stay active.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I'm glad you said that that was gonna be my
number one answer about the you know, sorting out the
deepest division top one through fifteen with three fight card
with three fights we need to see here on the
main card, obviously including that championship out in the main
event where Jack Della Maddelina will be a plus two
twenty underdog according to DraftKings against the minus two seventy

(53:23):
Islam Mahachev. But just the fact that in this era
where maybe cards aren't as strong historically, they didn't water
down MSG. It still feels like a major And from
the recent weeks, I got to bring up this, uh,
this graphic that our friends at MMA on Point put
out there. Luke, if you take our dr versus Allen,
which was a replacement main event that had a kind

(53:45):
of weird and lame turnout, which was the ass of
this horse, then we had UFC three twenty one, which
had some meat on it. But then you had the
ribs showing for the last two Fight Night cards. How
about that golden Stallion that is three to two on Saturday.
So many fights worth talking about and fighters and Luke,
when we talk about that main event, we all want

(54:06):
to see what Islam will look at look like at
one seventy inside the cage. Well, here's what he will
physically look like. Yo, This mother effor is jacked lt.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, I mean he's not cutting a bunch of weight
this time.

Speaker 9 (54:19):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You can see a more you know, normal so to speak.
Look in Islam telling you man I can't I just
can't wait for Saturday. I just can't wait.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
It's such a good fight. I love the storyline. Two
division champion. I mean, Luke is it now? I'll say
I'll save a lot of these talks for pregame. I
want to ask you also about the impact of JDM
having Volk and Craig Jones in his corner. I've got
a little bit of sound here of JDM talking to
the New York Post exactly about this.

Speaker 11 (54:49):
Your opponent coming up in Islama, Hatcha. He does his
best when he's able to get the fight down. You've
worked with Craig Jones of course famously in terms of
improving in that area and that kind of thing. Where
does where does his impact kind of help you the
most when you're preferring for a opponent like like both
of these guys.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
I mean, yeah, he just instills confidence. He doesn't try
and change too much, you know, he sort of looks
at my style and then sees what will work, and
then we sort of just, yeah, he doesn't try to
change too much, just sort of a little small changes,
small ideas that will work. But we feel that we've
got another good game plan. I feel like I've got
some good tricks. Obviously, Islam's very good on the floor,

(55:29):
a good finish up definitely, probably a better finisher than below,
no doubt so. But I feel like I can again
shock the world in the grappling department, keep it on
the feet and.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Get the win.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Look, is it a bigger is it a bigger unknown?
Whether JDM can handle the grappling of Islam or whether
Islam can get the better of him on the feet
in this.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Match the first I could Islam get the better of
him on the of course, I mean it's they're wearing
small gloves, There's a lot of things moving different directions.
It's MMA, it's wild, it's chaotic, absolutely, But really, really
it comes down to Islam being able to mix the
game up. Can he or canty? And if he can,
to what extent and where and what does it yield?

(56:15):
That's where this fight is one and laws that is
where everything happens. Because if it's this, I mean, just
straight up, if I told you Islam can't get him
down and can't hold him for any meaningful time against
the fence, that would make the pick relatively easy. You
would just pick JBM. But we don't know if that's
the case, and we don't know to what extent it
will be the case, even if it's at least somewhat true'
that is the main focus of this fight.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, I can't wait to see that. Let's go to
some fun sound here from Craig Jones talking about this relationship.

Speaker 12 (56:43):
Best on my trains with Della would have been doing
some seminars in Perth, so we had a relationship for
a bit of time. But really I was just a fan.
And I'm like, I keep saying this, like I've stolen
a lot of moves from him, but I think he
smoked so many bonds that he forgets that those of
his moves and I get to reteach them back to
him and take full credit for it.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Hilarious, hilarious stuff right there. I love that. That was,
by the way, Craig Jones being interviewed by friend of
the program Al Wendling over there, who's a part of course,
the CGI broadcast has a lot of great work in
the BJJ world. We can't forget about how great this
co main event is that has been a pickham for
most of the week, a literal pick them right now,
The odds on this women's flyweight Championship out Valentino Chifchenko

(57:28):
minus one twenty five, Jong way Lee plus one oh five.
Hey Long Island, look play this picture. Speaking we're talking
about Islam getting jacked in his new weight class. How
about way Lee with this video, She's ready for one
twenty five, not having to cut down to one point fifteen.
Uh Lil. When I look at this matchup storyline wise,

(57:52):
I look mostly at the at the history involved here,
the fact that it's two of the most accomplished fighters
in female you know, MMA history, refacing off against one
another with so much at stake, two division championship opportunity
for way Lee, and I go, Okay, maybe it's not
a fight that's as historically relevant as Cyborg versus Nunas,

(58:12):
and maybe it's not as you know, pioneering as Cyborg
Krano or as big as some of the rousy matchups,
but it has so many other things going for it,
and I wonder if you agree with me on this.
I was talking to CBS's Brent Brookhouse as we were
sort of framing this fight, and he came up with
a great point. As great as Valentina and Waylee are.

(58:33):
You could argue that both lack that one singular Hall
of fame win in their career. Maybe you can say
it's way Lee out brawling a Yojana to defend the
title there, but Valentina for as great as she is,
And by the way, if she wins on Saturday, she'll
tie amand to Newness for the most title fight wins
in women's UFC MMA history. There. I almost feel like

(58:55):
this is sort of the defining fight in some ways
of both of their careers. Is that crazy? Or do
you are you with me on that?

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I never once thought of it like that, But that
is actually a great point because like what is VAL's
best win?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Like we're not talking performance.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
You could say, like Jessica a is her best performance,
but like it's obviously not her best win.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Is it also Joanna?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (59:17):
Holly Holm? Julianapaina?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I don't know. No, it's a great point. It's like
she came into one twenty five val when it was
kind of empty. It has reloaded. I give her a
lot of credit for the second and third wins over Grasso.
I said second because she got screwed on that draw,
and then the Farah win I thought was great, But
where is that one definitive one that would this would
certainly be that in some ways for a vwal though

(59:40):
Val did beat Yoanna as well as Wayley. But I
don't know. It's it's it's it's it's interesting, It's going
to be a great fight. I'm fired up long an, Look,
do you have any storyline associated to Saturday that you're
most juiced about.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
I'm looking at this Leon Edwards Carlos Protest fight. Dude,
I feel like Leon Edwards. The odds are what's sticking
out to me. He's like plus one seventy. And I
was on Submission Radio yesterday and I was talking about
how like, even in Carlos Protest versus Jeff Neil, I
was big on Jeff Neil in that fight, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
You already know I said Ian Gary was gonna run through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
You know, Like I'm I'm not a hater of Carlos Protest.
I actually really liked the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
I just feel like I'm a doubter of his skills.
And I feel like someone like Leon Edwards, who's lost
two in a row, could probably use a win here.
He's lost in the number one contender, number two contender.
Not bad losses at all. This is gonna be a
big fight for either whoever wins. It's intriguing because it's like,
oh shit, Protest is for real, or it's like, oh shit,
Leon still in the top five, still kind of has it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So agreed Protest minus one ninety eight favorite over the
one plus one sixty four Edwards And he can't sleep
on Sean Brady versus Michael Morales, Holy crap minus one
forty two Brady the slight favorite over the plus one
twenty Morales. A lot more on UFC three twenty two.
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topic number four. It was in the box over the
weekend we finally had a fight worth talking about. It
didn't last that long, as unbeaten Virgil Ortiz Junior ran
through ericson Lubin and wrote to a brutal second round
TKO as the hype instantly turned toward a fight against
Daron boot Sentas, a fellow unbeaten junior middleweight that would

(01:02:51):
in some ways be for the uncrowned championship, as neither
our current title holders but are sort of loosely considered
the best two in the division there. Uh Luke Thomas,
I know how pumped you would be for Virgul Arts
versus Boots, Senis I want to know how pumped when
you look ahead to twenty twenty six in boxing, knowing
we're gonna get fights like versus Jaquor, Where would a

(01:03:15):
Virgil or Teas Boots Sentence fight rank among the most
anticipated for you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Can I ask a quick question of qualification? Is the
fight for late January between Chakor and Teo signed and done?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
The report is that it's it's it's like nine tenths
of the way there for January thirty first at Madison
Square Garden. It has not been announced.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Just in fairness to that fight, that would be pretty big. Now,
I don't know how big it would be as a
blockbuster event, but in terms of a big fight taking
place stateside, for what would that fight be at one
thirty five?

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
For that fight would be at one forty Yes for females.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, that would be tremendous. That would be tremendous. But BC,
I just got to say, it feels to me like
reading the tea leaves that this potential fight between Jeron
Boots Ennis and Virgil or T's it's arguably the best
fight you can make in boxing within a single division.
It's arguably that. And I would say that the buzz

(01:04:17):
that I read is on Saturday night and just seeing
what people were saying, it might also be the most anticipated. Now, again,
there could be bigger fights you could cook up. I suspect,
for example, that if we get Tyson Fury versus Anthony
Joshua in twenty twenty six at make something up Wembley
in the UK, that would be a pretty significant boxing event.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
You get me Benavitez better, BF, I might I might
turn down all other fights, but this one fair.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
But this one, Yeah, dude, Ortia, just wrap it up
or Ties versus Boots is, if not, the most anticipated
fight in twenty twenty six, on the very short list,
and for great reasons. We want to see a breakout
star in BC. I really really hope. I just say
as a small note, I really hope they put this
fight stateside. I'll take it no matter what, like any

(01:05:01):
other boxing fan would. But I feel like the American
market really needs something like this, and I honestly feel
like it could be a big spark if it's handled
the right way and promoted the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I fully agree with you here. Both promoters of the
two fighters, Golden Boy representing Virginal Ortiz Mattroom representing Boots
on Us, are on his own. It seems like an
easy one to make, although there's some hurdles that have
come out since Saturday. We'll talk about that in a second. First,
I do want to talk about the finish Luke. I
expected a lot more of ericson Lubin in this fight,
even though his kryptonite could be his chin. Here's a

(01:05:34):
ringside view of the finish Lubin had been hurt by
a left hand. He was lingering far too long on
the ropes. There's a Slooper slow moo version of this
replay where you could see he just brutally finishes Lubin
with a left hook. All in all, I kind of
wanted to see more resistance in this one, but I
can't take away with what Virgil Ortiz did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I mean, I wrote this PC, and I maybe you
might disagree with the characterization. To me, Lubin was a
flawed we said this on Friday. I believe a flawed opponent,
but a quality one. And the issue was, you know,
he'd been obviously stopped by Charlow right. That was one issue.
The other issue was, for example, in the Fundora fight,

(01:06:14):
he just kind of swoll up like he got stung
by a bee. I'm not so sure that he has
chin issues BC as much as an a. I mean
he I feel like there's a distinction between having chin
issues and then general durability problems. I actually feel like
they're slightly they're they're they're very aligned, but somewhat different,

(01:06:34):
and it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Tame Dustin Pourier is a little chinny but insanely durable.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yes, something like that, or you can be you know,
not really chinty at all, but have you know, bad
durability to the body, right, That can be a thing too.
So I feel like Lubin was a little bit more
of the latter. But the point I'm trying to make
is Ortiz, you know, Lubin is not a joke. Whatever
else you want to say about him, he is not
a joke. I didn't really like that. Mora was like,

(01:06:59):
oh he's shot fighter, like right after he gets beat.
I thought that was a little bit much, but I
thought he was a quality opponent and he got mowed through.
It indicates both the potential of Ortiz, who, by the way,
you know, he didn't finish Israel Madromov BC, but he
beat up Madromov real good. He had him very disciplined
in that long fight card that they were on, and
I thought that was one of his better performances, even

(01:07:20):
if it didn't yield a stoppage. And clearly what it
also indicates BC is if you don't put a good
top class opponent in front of him, in front of Ortiz, dude,
he's just going to mow right through him. On just
a basic level of getting the most out of him.
He needs an opponent like Bud to say nothing else
of that it passed to be next, or that the
sport wants it, or any of the other other considerations.
So I really thought, did you learn a lot about Ortiz?

(01:07:43):
Only in the sense that it's time for the bullshit
to stop. We got to put this guy in front
of a real killer and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yeah, right after the fight, they brought in Eddie Hearn
and drawn Boots Sennis for a face off, and it
got my bread boyle in there. The quote there from
Virgil Ortiz is We're ready for the best. We want
to fight the best. Boots come over here. He did.
They took this pick. You want to hear what Boots
thought about it. Fight Out TV caught up with him ringside.
I think it was kind of out it. Did you

(01:08:13):
expect that type of performance?

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Early?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
A lot of people were saying it's gonna be one,
he's gonna go past ten. Do you think it was
gonna go.

Speaker 13 (01:08:21):
By the second job? But I got said, I got
something I invest in order.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
This fight is going to be so awesome. But here's
the problem, Luke, They're already doing a lot of business posturing.
After this fight. You got Rick Marigian, the manager of
Boots Uh I'm sorry of Virgil or tease uh and
Oscar de la Jolla both sort of saying like, we
need big time money to take this fight. We need

(01:08:53):
ten million dollars to take this fight. I don't know
if that's just posturing for the point of trying to
get Turkey to come in and pay them stupid money
for it, or if this really means we're gonna have
to build to this when the fight is right in
front of us right now. And why I say that
is because you're starting to hear both camps saying we

(01:09:14):
want to fight the other person, but we're willing to
fight other people. Here's a Jake Donovan tweet criticizing what
Oscar said after the fight. He says, Oscar de la
Joya has now twice claimed Golden Boy holds the upper
hand and talks for ts Ennis, first during the in
ring post fight interview and now during a postfight press conference.
Not the nonsense we meet, just make the fight, especially

(01:09:35):
after tonight's Buzz Hassan had a similar tweet after that
in which he said Oscar de la Joya says that
Virgil or Cheese is not the a side with Boots,
it will not happen and they will look at Erol
Spence and Sebastian Fondora. Now, the Ero Spence fight has
long been the dream fight for Virgil Archies. They're both
from Dallas. They wanted to do this at Jerry World.

(01:09:56):
They always talked about it. Virgil even said after the fight,
I actually want the Spence fight more than Boots, to
be fair and honest with you, because it's his dream fight.
Then you hear reports on Twitter that Golden Boys already
talking to PBC about that fight. Luke, do you feel
like if it doesn't happen next they're going to miss this?

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah? Yeah, leave it to boxing in the middle of
a takeover from a monopoly and a sister sport that
they're out here just fucking, you know, flicking their own
nutsacks around and imagining that this is some kind of
enjoyable game that we all like to watch. Dude, I mean, listen,
I'll be honest, b See, I'll be honest Virgil Orts
versus Aerol Spence. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend

(01:10:36):
I hate that fight because I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Be in attendance on Saturday watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah, I don't hate that fight at all. I absolutely
don't hate that fight, and you know you have really
I mean, he sold himself to the public, but you
have also sold me on the fact that you know Fandora.
There's something special about him. I don't hate a fight
between Virgual Arts and Sebastian Fonndora either. I don't hate it.
I think if you got either of those, I wouldn't
look at that and go, oh, these fights suck. No,
that's not what I'm saying, but it just seems to
me that if you're a mover and a shaker in

(01:11:03):
boxing and you're looking around at the state of the
sport and you're thinking to yourself, we can just play
the same old fuck fuck games of not delivering on
what the fans actually want. I mean, I'm not saying
that you deserve to have a monopoly, Come take your business.
That's really not what I'm saying. But it's not like
you're doing a lot to actively resist it. On the
parts that you can control. This is within your grasp

(01:11:25):
to really reward the fans, to give them something, especially
BC after kind of a shit year, in the sport
of boxing to really give them something a lot to
hope for and look look forward to it. As I mentioned,
I mentioned of all the permutations you can make within
a single division, the best one is Boots versus orties.
I'll take Fundora versus Orties. I'll take Spence versus Orties,

(01:11:46):
but it's just not the same as what you're gonna
get with Boots. And so to that ENDBC like they
might just whiff on this. But if they do, man, like,
what can you say? Y'all y'all just deserve to lose
your business. You just didn't you didn't care to keep
it exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Both of these promoters are under Turkey. Both of them
are on his own make the damn fight. But when
I hear Oscar saying we have to be the A
side and we need ten million, or you know, also
or Cheese's manager saying something similar, then that leads me
to believe maybe they don't think they can beat Boots
and they want to sort of cash it out. But
I would hope that Turkey would step in. I really hope,

(01:12:24):
like you, this would not be in Saudi. I would
love for this fight. Heck, I love that they grabbed Teo,
Femo and Shakur, and they're like, let's put in MSG.
Hell yeah, let's make it huge. Let's take this fight.
Put it in a big city, in a big arena.
You don't have to put it in Philly or Dallas
to favor either.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Put it in La at the Staples Center. I don't care.
But get Turkey involved. Make it the main event of
a Ring magazine card. And by the way, the Ring
magazine cards have been great. You got to give Turkey
that credit for what he's done recently. This seems like
a perfect fight for that, Luke. I really hope it's
not like the Comane in Saudi. But yet everybody gets paid,
you know, more than they deserve. I don't know. Just
make the damn fight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
We got buzz. We got legitimate buzz. Right now, let's
go to topic number five. A great fight which they
did make, thank you very much. It's Saturday. It's a
rematch of that April dramatic, insane slugfest that is my
current front runner for Fight of the Year in twenty
twenty five and frankly, one of the most dramatic fights
of this entire decade. It's Chris Ubank Junior versus Connor

(01:13:23):
Ben Part two, as the second generation British stars continue
this legendary rivalry between families in which their fathers fought
multiple times. This one's going to be back at Tottenham
Hotspurs Stadium like it was the first one, and the
storylines are getting even juicier with ambulance Gate and all
the things established with their dads and all that lt.

(01:13:46):
It's just remarkable how insane that April fight was when
it could have been nothing, no title at stake. Two
guys that never truly lived up to their potential or
you know, came close to exceeding what their dads did,
and you bank father and senior at that point, we're
not talking. Although it was a big pro wrestling ruse

(01:14:06):
and then they delivered drama action. They're not even in
the same weight class. It was just the perfect matchup
in which the smaller Connor Ben acted like the bigger
puncher yet ultimately got slightly out boxed in a war.
Is there any chance that Saturday's fight can live up
to or exceed what we saw just what seven months ago?

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
There's always a room whenever you get a fun fight
there's always room for reality that you might be in
the first stage of a Vazquez Marquez. You know, you're
the first first chapter of a Gotty Ward or something
like that. So essentially what you're having to ask is
are we at one of those? Because we see if

(01:14:54):
you get another one. I mean, let's think realistically, if
you get a second fight, that it's like the first.
Particularly if Connor Ben wins, you're going to get a third.
You know, that's just what it's gonna be, and you
might get a third one anyway, even if Ben doesn't win.
I guess I would say this. I was I've been
reading what Bomack has been saying in preparation for the

(01:15:16):
show and for the fight itself, and Bomack has been
of the belief. He's like, yeah, there were some things
we just didn't know what we were going to get
with Connor Ben. The first time, you'll recall BC this
was when Bomack had to go to jail in England
because he brought a revolver to the place, which is
that's always fun in any event. I Bomack is like, yeah,
there were some things we definitely didn't know what we're

(01:15:37):
going to get. With Ben given a few factors the
first time, but we now we got it and like
I think he's going to make it look worse. Grret
me if my memory is wrong. BFC didn't didn't Ben
lose eight to four on all three judges scorecards? Isn't
that right?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
You don't have that in front of me, But that
sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
I believe that's correct. Now, that doesn't mean that it
wasn't close at times, and there weren't these wild moments
swings that made it for a dramatic affair, but in
the end it was kind of two to one in
one direction. Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yeah? You're correct, one sixteen, one twelve across the board.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yep, yep. So this is what I'm saying. I am
hopeful that the rematch will be good, and I'm pretty
confident the rematch will be good no matter what. The
thing that I think is what is intention is how
much is it true that Ben has been figured out
by bank versus You notice BC that first cut to

(01:16:32):
get down there was brutal, and then there was the
whole thing about his ambulance being blocked to leave the
event to go get metal rehydration clause. The rehydration clause
a whole bit. If he is really doing damage to
himself to make the weight you bank in order to
stay in these kind of this this orbit of a
big fight for himself, then I think you really have

(01:16:54):
to upgrade Ben's chances. But I just think boxer to boxer,
and especially like natural to natural size, you bank is
just better. So I only have a question about what
the weight cut and the weight management does to his
durability for a second time. What is a very very
brutal affair to get down there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yeah, this fight to be contested at one hundred and
sixty pounds, you banked. Junior made that weight despite having
you know, fought at one sixty eight for a stretch
of his career. But with that rehydration clause, it's a
tough ass weight cut. And of course Connor Ben, who
was probably at his best on the rise up at
one forty seven but had ped issues moved up to

(01:17:36):
one fifty four. Didn't look like a killer anymore. But
this in this first fight at middleweight, like I said,
came out with insane heart, acted like the bigger puncher
was walking you Bank down, forced you bank to be
the boxer as we look at the odds right now,
Chris you Bank Junior a minus one seventy five betting
favorite plus one thirty five is been. But if you're
wondering about this hullabuun surrounding ambulance gate, basically Chris Ubank

(01:18:01):
Junior is accusing Eddie Hearn, the promoter of Connor Ben,
of blocking the ambulance on the way out of the
arena to keep him there longer, to make him I mean,
and you know, going to the level of showing videos
and behind the scenes footage of it, you have Chris
Hubank Senior accusing Eddie Hearn of not putting U Bank

(01:18:22):
Junior's health. First, here's the Talk Sport team coming after
Chris Ubank Junior for playing up the sympathy card with
the storyline.

Speaker 7 (01:18:30):
We've got to stop allowing U Bank to milk the
sympathy folk, because he's the one that is allowing a
million pound clause to be in his contract that doesn't
allow him to rehydrate.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
So you can't have it both ways.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
You can't say you're dehydrated yeah, and then say that
I'm in jeopardy when you are the one to put
yourself what.

Speaker 14 (01:18:47):
He's saying, Spencer is in the second statement, you Bank
Junior is saying, I'm shining a light in this situation
to make sure that if I end up looking like
this again in November the fifteenth, that I'm simply taking to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Hospital as quickly as possible. And that song.

Speaker 7 (01:18:58):
We've turned it into an argument about whether chrisue Bank
could get an ambulance out of a stadium. Where the
question is is did he have a delay and why
did he have a delay. Where Chris u Bank has
gone with it is I have a delay because of you,
Eddie Hearn. Where he get himself smacked is by accusing
somebody of something that he cannot accuse them of. The
argument that is Eddie Hearn's fault. Well, he's the promoter
of notes, so he has to take some responsibility for it.

(01:19:19):
The real issue, the real reason. Let's get it right.
This is a story and it sells a fight. It's
a narrative, it creates an outcome. It's also a fact
simon that these things I don't need to happen. I
don't dispute it, but what's the motivation behind it? Look
my belief the motivation behind it. With due respect to
Chris u Bank is not to make a point about
how near to death he was because he chose to

(01:19:40):
go down that pathway with respect by not taking the
rehydration clause that penalized him by a million quid. But
the fact is it's about selling a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Well, do you feel like Chris du Bank Junior just
needs like an emotional battle to fight to be at
his best coming in he seems.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
To love I don't know, we see like when he
was taking t Frank Warren, you know, at that press conference,
and like he just seems to revel in it a
little bit. To be honest with you, Yeah, I mean,
I don't think. I don't know why these commentators are
kind of dismissing some of his concerns. They're pretty valid
he's taking Yeah, I mean, yes, ultimately he's agreeing to
these conditions and so therefore he's responsible for meeting them.
But at the same time, they're very, very tough, and

(01:20:18):
you know, honestly, who is doing more physical deterioration to
make these two fights possible? It's u Bank, Like, well,
I don't know, you know what I mean, why why
is that unfair to say? Now whether hearn was involved
in letting the ambulance leave on time. You know, I
don't know what the evidence for that would be necessarily,
but to answer your question, BC, I mean this is
part of what the U Bank Ben magic is, both
the clash of their personalities and then the weirdness or

(01:20:39):
the differences that they each bring. And U Bank just
seems to love narrative and rhetoric and circumstance around his
his his orbit. It works for him to be honest,
like I sort of get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Here's Eddie Hearn's reaction talking to Marcos Vegas.

Speaker 10 (01:20:55):
But what you call him Bubi's accuse me a mattrium
deliberately stopping or delaying an ambulance. It's a dangerous thing
to say, he said, Eddie Hearn stopped and blocked my
ambulance from leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:21:09):
In the meantime, I'm with Connor Ben doing a press conference.
Didn't even know this is all going on. But unfortunately
he's got it so wrong, but still refuses to just say,
you know, I don't mind you know, I don't mind this.
I don't like Eddie Hearn. I think he's a prick.
And you know, I want to be able to leave
as quickly as possible in an ambulance, which he absolutely should.

(01:21:33):
But I shouldn't have said that, because that's not you know,
whatever you think of me, you can't expect to say
things like that and for me just to go, yeah,
all right, because what you're saying is is I put
your life at risk. Now he walked to the ambulance.
He was actually asked that they take him to the ambulance.
He chose to walk, and all this kind of stuff,

(01:21:54):
and it was precautions, but that doesn't matter. You should
always you know, we want the best route possible, and
that's a bridge boxing border control obligation and responsibility and
an emergency service responsibility. But of course that's what we want.
But what you can't do is accuse me a Mattrom
of deliberately stopping or delaying an ambulance. It's it's a

(01:22:16):
dangerous thing to say. Unfortunately, he's not sensible enough, or
he's too stubborn. He has a big chip on his
shoulder to say I don't like you. And yes, the
control center did have to open the gates, but I
shouldn't have said that. And I know you didn't block
the ambulance, but I still think you're a prick.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
There you go. Look just to correct And I wasn't
really up on this either. Bullmack was not with U
Bank for the first fight, although he had worked with
U Bank Jr. In the past. Here's a video.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Let me just say I definitely did see a Bomak
saying that that he learned something from the first fight
that You Bank was going to encounter the day we
would have ironed out, so at least it was kind
of plugged in on what was happening there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
You do have video of Bomack firing up you Bank
in the gym, and the reason Bomack said he came
back with you Bank was because You Bank talking about
needing more of that like killer instinct spirit inside him.

Speaker 12 (01:23:11):
But kill.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
This is the way to killing.

Speaker 14 (01:23:15):
This is the way to killing very you.

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
Know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Mother fuck you gotta dig in?

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Is that man do a foot?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Look? I just love the image of a large man
with a bag of family sized Cheetos screaming at a
dude with Jack Dabs going, you gotta get in his ass,
You gotta dig.

Speaker 10 (01:24:00):
In the air.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
You gotta dig in his air.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Good Lord? All right to close, here's Connor Ben on
what he underestimated about you Bank in the first fight
that he hopes to fix in this rematch on Saturday.

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
When you got in there, did you know immediately that
this fight was going to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Go the way it was going to go?

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:24:17):
No, I thought I thought I would have thought after
the third round that it was it was curns for
it was Curned. There was a moment in that fight,
in that third round where your predicting nearly came from.
I thought we couldn't live with my ferocity, my spite,
my tenacity, my my aggreestion. I thought we couldn't live

(01:24:39):
with any of that hunger sharpness. But you know, I
underestimate the man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
I feel like Ben is going to come out guns
blazing again, Luke, and maybe even try a quicker pace
to try to to try to put you Bank in
a spot where he has no gas. How do you
see this rematch going? I got Ben by the decision.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Wow, really, No, I'll take you Bank. I'll take you
Bank by decision. Yeah. I won't say stoppage because I
think he's going to be too diminished, but I think
we'll get the job done for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
All right, can't wait? That is this Saturday. Check it
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are our five topics for this week. Thank you for playing.
Now we hear from you the fan every Sunday night
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the opportunity to be heard. Ask us whatever you want.
This one's DMS from dawns hearing again from Christina Pinto

(01:28:24):
underscore BJJ.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
She wrote me about your pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Here's my right or wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Halfway right, She's the it's not Pinto. It's definitely not that.
It's a little bit of a you. But she said,
you exaggerate the degree to which it's a ooh s.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
I had some little light.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
All right, all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Right, all right, well, thank you Christina for reaching out.
Might I say, Ricky Simone versus Hyoni Barcellas was a
technical thriller. I mean, there was some technical elements that
made it super fun, but this was also just straight
up abandam weight banger, was it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know if technical thriller is the
right answer to that. But that old that old goat.
I'm telling you, man, that old goat is out there
just doing something special. But technical thriller. No, I think it. Actually,
the actually would have to be a little slower than
it was for that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
No, No, all right, here's a technical thriller.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Dominic Cruz's split decision over TJ. Dillashaw, that's a that's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
A kind of edge of your seat. Never crazy, but
edge of your seat the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yes, at high speed, a lot of skills, but yeah,
I did enjoy that on Saturday. I just love that
people are finally getting up on these TT's. Luke, you
know what I'm saying, These technical thrillers, they're just all right.
Let's hear from at moiche Eisenminton. Thank you, Moische Moishisha.

(01:29:57):
If you could decide what the headliner will be for
the first Paramount card, which fight would you make ELTI.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Say it again, that will put them one more time,
if you could do it with the headliner.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
And by the way, the latest reports seemed to be
the end of January. I had heard LA. Now I'm
here in Vegas. I don't have an official announcement yet.
We'll see what happens with this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I'm gonna go to Pooria, I mean, just me personally,
to Poria Battie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Yeah, I wish Geechee was well. No do I don't
know if I wish Gaegee was healthy, because that's not
the fight I want. You know what, I'll say it
to Poria Saruki and I wish they just did that
right now. That's a banger.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I take that one too. Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
That's my choice for this. All right, thank you very much.
Let's hear from David Underscore KERSH fifty five. The over
under is two and a half of the welterweights competing
in the MSG and cutter cards becoming future champions.

Speaker 9 (01:30:50):
Let me see, So you got Ian Gary Balal Mohammed,
Sean Brady, Michael Morales, Leon Edwards, Carlos protests, and then
I guess Islam JDM, I'll take the over.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
So you think this belt's going to bounce around at
one seventy, that's really what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
I don't think Islam's going to be there that long.
That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Where, well, where's he going?

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
I think he'll be here and then okay, so let's
say he wins Saturday. I think he'll defend the title
one maybe two times, and then I think he'll call
it a day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
And then retire before he fights till Tooria or including.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
I think if he wins at seventy, I don't know
if we're ever going to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Wow. Okay, okay, that's interesting, that's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
How long do you think he's going to be around for.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Four fights at welter, including to Poria.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Oh, I'd be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
All right. You think Ian Gary will ever hold it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Yeah, I think he could. I think I think I
think he could. I think he could.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
I do too. I don't wonder if shot Cut's ever
going to get back in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Talking hell man, what I mean, dude, twenty twenty four,
excuse me, twenty twenty five was just a dead year
for him. Yeah. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Indeed, let's hear from Mt. Booble. We like this guy.
City you want to visit in the US that you
have never been to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
That's an easy one for me. I am so ashore.
I've been all over the world. I am so ashamed
to say I've never been to Seattle. I've never been Satan.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
I want to very badly. I would say Nashville's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Up there for me. Have never been to Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
No, I've been around it. I've been to Lebanon, Tennessee
for a wedding. I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I've done some drinking in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
But I but then again, if you're like Yo BC,
you want to go to Seattle or Nashville, I'm taking Seattle.
But proximity to National Park, a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Flight to Nashville from like VWI or whatever is like
it's like an hour forty five. It's like forty five minutes.
And Nashville's changed a lot. It's become a lot more
corporate than it once was. But one thing I really
like about in Nashville is if you're into live music
and I don't love country music by instructs imagination, but
if you're into just live perform Nashville's got a lot

(01:33:01):
of really good live performers. It's actually kind of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
We used to say that about Austin and to all
those comedians invaded it, Luke, you know what I mean.
But uh, I've never been to San fran that's still
up there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Oh my god, dude, Really you've never seen like the
old redwood trees and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
No, No, Northern California is a high on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Very high, dude. You're missing out. Those things are crazy
to see. It's fun at all.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Okay, thank you very much. Uh, let's keep it going here.
Our final one is from John Winklfred. Rank your top
three holidays in.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Okay. First, I'd go Christmas. Christmas is the king of
holidays for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Yeah, don't don't stop putting that Christ in Christmas. Please
don't stop?

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
All right, Well, I mean, you know my family won't
let me put it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
I mean, there's a reason for the season.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Luke. Okay, how many Nativity sets do you have in
your house?

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Just one? And I have to fight my family to
bring it back out. They want to retire it, and
I keep bringing it back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Bro I've got like three or four up in yest.
So Christmas is number one. I feel like gotta go
Christmas number one. I'm gonna say number two. You know.
The temptation is to say Thanksgiving BC, especially because you
do get two days off you're supposed to do anyway,

(01:34:17):
we dispara.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
It's the best holiday in the world. I'm not gonna
be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
I think Thanksgiving is a three. For me, to be
honest with you, I'm gonna put it's not even really
a holiday. I'm gonna put Halloween as number two. And
I want to tell you why. I'll tell you why.
Not only is it just a wonderful time of the year,
October King of the months, but it's really now turned
into a whole month long kind of dutiful celebration where

(01:34:40):
you're watching scary movies all week. Now we put decorations
all over the house. It has this big crescendo moment
with a bunch of happy children. Dude, I fucking love Halloween,
especially now that I'm a dad. Like it's just the best.
So I'm gonna go Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
I'm gonna go Thanksgiving, and we already know it's the
best holiday. Everyone comes home, it's football, family food. I mean,
it's everything you'd want, right. Number two is Christmas. There
ain't nothing you know like it except for Turkey Day.
And the third i'll go is Father's Day, Luke, I
love Father's Day.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Okay, what have you had a particularly good one recently?

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
I don't need anything crazy for Father's Day to be great.
I just need my wife, my two kids, and I
to spend the whole day together, go for walks, get
ice cream, you know, doude, do basic stuff that's awesome
and just celebrate that. I'm tempted also to put forth
in July on there not. You know, I don't have
a dislike for our country, but it's not necessarily like yeah, USA,
it's just great weather. You typically go somewhere fun by

(01:35:42):
the water, fireworks, cook out, you know what I'm saying, Like,
it's it's a nice it's a nice break in the eye.
It kicks off summer in some ways. Yeah, all right,
that's all I got here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Luke says New Year's Eve is the number one, and
I'm like, that's only true if you don't have kids
and you're not that old.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's not always true every year, but like
if you have a good New Year's Eve party and
everyone's like gonna stay up and all that, that there's
nothing that beats that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
I'd say, between the ages of nineteen and twenty six,
my real favorite holiday was Thanksgiving Eve aka Valley New Year.
I mean that's you know, going back to the local
bar and like everyone's back and you're you know, and yeah,
so it was it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
It was the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Yes, yes, we
would come back home and we would all see each other,
like everyone who was in high school together went to
their colleges, would come back home and you would see
each other for the first time and see who had
the freshman fifteen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
And then like the younger, the younger classes below, you
would become of age and come into the par scene
and you know you'd be a dirt hole and yeah,
there you go. All right, that's it for that. You
can reach our program at Morning Combat at gmail dot com.
Uh for your Friday dead wrongs and fan subs. We
will not reminder, will not be with you this Friday,
but don't forget Thursday pregame preview eleven am Me Stern

(01:37:00):
with Oscar Wilde Yes final segment is where I scour
the globe for the highs and lows, the good, the bad,
the other, the in between in the worlds of combat
sports and beyond. I'm not gonna say it's a great batch,
although last week over at cheat last.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Week was very solid, super solid.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
All right, this one's called have you seen this shit
than you? Whoah? Indeed that somebody's drinking right now? Yeah
all right, Hey, look, you didn't have to go to
the New York City subway today, so I thought I'd
bring the New York City subway to you. Uh you

(01:37:39):
ever hear of snakes on a plane? How about snakes
on a train? LT?

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Yeah, brother, this is New York.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I mean remember when when you and I got on
that subway car and that dude had an open flesh
wound on his head, and he was screaming satanic stuff
at us, and we didn't get off. We probably should
have with that snake guy forced you to get off.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
I might stick around if I'm on the Local, I
might stick around for one more stop. If I was
on the Express, I'm getting off after the next one.
You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna write thirty
more blocks with him, but all right, I'll ride ten
with them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
With the next subway creature force you to get on
or off or get off in a different way, Luke,
let's watch this, gentleman.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
This is why God you gotta know how to ride
the New York City subway. Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
And oh he's riding it, Luke, he's riding.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Let me expite some to you. How do you hold
onto things on the New York City Subway. I'm gonna
show you how to do it. Number one, You press
against the lower part of your palm or BC. This
is what you gotta do. You gotta go elbow deep
and use your clothes, mold.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
It the carbonic acid and just pour it over your hand.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
If you don't have hand sanitizer ready. It's the elbow
or it's the palm. It's never this that is a disaster.
Don't ever do that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
And finally, would you get on or off the train
if you saw this in the subway? Luke, this kind
of performs are are you not entertained?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
This is the most normal thing that happens on the
end train.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
So true, so true.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
This is the most normal thing I've ever seen happen
on the New York City subway.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
All right, well done there, check out their Broadway show
later this week. All right, look, let's go to your
ko of the week. It's a sidewalk a sidewalk fatality
that you need to see. All right, what why did.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
He turn into?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Ai? No? Did he turned into jello?

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Dude? He got cranked by that right now?

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Oh he's just swinging hard. A guy gets under it,
August off the center line.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Go wow, dude, that is brutal. That's gonna hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
You don't get in street fights on concrete, you idiots.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
You ever play in the corporate softball game and someone
took it too seriously, that's usually me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Do you think I had that kind of corporate camaraderie?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Let's check in on this company. Yo, dude, I actually
support that. I'm that guy at the ESPN rec League
in basketball who's almost getting to a fistfight with the

(01:40:25):
referee or score.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
You're gonna tear both of Janet's acls from hr just
for a point on the Stade game.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
She's out at home, Luke. That was that was That
was That's fair play where I come from. By the way,
it was a four charity dodgeball tournament at my kids
high school a couple of years ago, and I came
out like Game seven style and turned off a lot
of people, Luke, a lot of people. I believe you, Yeah,
I believe it wasn't good. All right, let's head on

(01:40:53):
over to the gridiron forget pick six, Luke. They're calling
this thick six. Did you see this guy? Watch this
in here?

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Oh it's like Jumbo Elliott.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Yeah, look at this guy, big country.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Just go, dude, what what is this? High school?

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
I think so, but rumbling, bumbling, stumbling.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Someone just make him trip, you idiots, Jumbo Elliott. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
He did die of a lack of oxygen after that,
but what a return.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
He had a coronary after this and he's no longer
with us, but great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Let's go to the Bethune Cookman Grambling State game. Went
to a football game, Luke, and a brawl broke out
between the two sides. Look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Oh, oh, he's got no helmet on. I feel like
fighting with no helmet on or fighting with a helmet on?
Is either? Is? Both ways?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Oh yeah, they're throwing. They're throwing, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Oh, that was a pretty good punch. That was a
pretty good punch.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Not bad, not bad. Let's go to youth football. Look
you ever had to be the chain game at your
chain gang member at your daughter's football game?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Not yet?

Speaker 12 (01:42:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Look at the T shirt that this dad wore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
What does it say?

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
I guess you'll have to see it again.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Lift Heavy, eat ass. That was my motto for my twenties.
Let me just say.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Yeah indeed, Luke. Normally we don't praise the Bills mafia,
but they took it out on Patrick Mahomes this week.
Look at this, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
You know, Bill's Mafia sucks, but I'm not gonna lie.
This is real funny.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Yeah. And finally, check out this youth football player whose
dad just taught him the stiff arm before the game.
Watch this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Look.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Were you one of those like twelve year olds that
was six feet tall? And yeah, yeah, you could have
been doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Okay, fifth grade, I grew I think I grew nine
inches in a year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Wow. Wow fifth grade dude.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Get tall till summer before ninth grade. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
But I've been this tall since I was sixteen. Geez okay,
Jesus Christy, who's he playing?

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
They are? Now? Uh luke? I call this kid a
young machine gun, Kelly, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
It sounds it sounded like Optimus Prime turning back into
a truck.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I made it in time. All right, let's
go to the New York City streets. Anything can happen. Dude,
that's a perfect egg.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
This is New York. God is love New York.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Time for your tamline of the week. Check out this
racing fan here coming up, coming up, Let's stand for
the national anthem? Oh my god, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Can I tell you speaking of the Marine Corps? So
this is how we would all look like eight weeks.
So I went, I went. I went to Parasount in
June of nineteen ninety eight, and they would give us.
They don't call them hats, to call them covers. They
give you a cover to wear, and of course you're
outside all the time. So then eight weeks, I mean
it was the Marinka wookeme was thirteen weeks. But by
eight weeks in you take your hat off and they

(01:44:19):
all have that tan line where they've gotten it's just
completely white here or whatever, and then dark as shit
from the way down, and they all look that way,
look little stupid, but I've definitely seen it before.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Look, it's time for MMA fighters in the wild, and
I popped for this, real, recognizing real when Dimitri Bevoll
and fade Or got together.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
YO, understand that the man on the left competed with
guys well in excess of two hundred and fifty eban
sometimes three hundred pounds, and the other guy fights at
one hundred and seventy five pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
Yes, it s ins dude.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Fade Or is so criminally underrated it's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
I love him. We won't play this sound for copyright purposes,
but here's Alexander Volkanowski joining Jelly Roll on stage, singing
to his tunes while Jelly Roll holds the belt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Luke your thoughts, I found out randomly that Jelly Roll
follows me on Twitter. I don't know why, dude, that's
not bad, right, I guess he's an MMA fan. Vulk's
got the tightest jeans on Earth. But otherwise this looks fun.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Yeah. Yeah, shout out to Volk for this. Also, footage
has emerged from a two thousand and eight sambo match
in which Habib defeated Alexander Volkov. Luke, did you know
about this?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
No? This is wild.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
It is AI can't produce this.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
I mean it could fires to the underhook inside trip
and then outside trip. That's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Yeah, dude, Habib's a beast man.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Someone was asking me like, oh, could he beat you know,
middleweights in the UFC, because I guess Henry Sudo and
Kamara Usman were like, oh he could. And you know,
I'm not saying I mean, I don't know what he
is at this point, but like, I've definitely heard stories
of Haib and a gym giving Walter Waits and middleweights
the fight of their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
So Luke Rockall was on that Jackson pod and the
third example of that, and he said Islam was throwing
him around and he's like, I've never seen strength like that.
It's just ridiculous. Yeah, those guys are different, Luke. They
sacrificed all to be that different.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
You know what I'm saying. It worked out. They're fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Yeah, they were looke. The UFC did a bit where
they interviewed their fighters and asked them to look at
pictures of brock Lesnar. What do you think they said
about him?

Speaker 10 (01:46:33):
Brock Lesna He recently came back at forty eight years
old and he's absolutely jacked.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
He's in the best shape of his life. That's him
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
What is he just a genetic specimen.

Speaker 8 (01:46:42):
I mean, he might be a bit of a genetic specimen,
but some of the stuff going on that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Did Yeah, I think he's not to us. His age
looked like for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:46:50):
Well that's when he won the title at thirty years
old and now he's forty eight years old.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
As you know, what did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
But I'm not sure about his ortal health. Do you
think we have to say brook Lesni come back to
the UFC if you could pass a drug test. I
don't think so. He will never pass that.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
He can he can Now, you didn't have a lot
of contenders in the heavy light division. Would you like
to say Brooklynson returned to the UFC.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
If you can pass the joke test, I'll do it.
I don't think that's happening anytime soon. On a bull leak, Yeah,
I mean you know, yeah, he's on that over em.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Yeah. The Dodgers made it two straight championships, including one.
One of our players is all over Ariel. You see that,
look just dunk it all over.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Him, get Hernandez. I did see that. Yeah, here's the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Best post celebration interview that I found.

Speaker 8 (01:47:37):
Obviously, when you got a guy, I guess you know
where we.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Have a model on your team, it makes things a
little easier, you know, especially for a guy like me
that you know all I did to.

Speaker 13 (01:47:46):
The bring you know, if he's a fucking fens over
the project to get a name.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
But I got a name, and here we are back
to that champs.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Three time World Series champion.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Oh look, you know that bit where they like kick
a ball and the gender reveal happens. Apparently they're doing
that at weddings. Now watch the I don't know if
this was a shotgun marriage. Watch the flight of this ball.
Oh okay, she ain't hooking up with the reception. Now,
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
These blue haired libs are out of control. That's what
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Look, this gives new meaning to the term elder abuse.
Let's get some life advice here.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
What is the secret to living a long life?

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
What's off? How old are you?

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
I'm ninety nine?

Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
And how I made it to ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
I smoked a lot, I drank a lot, and I
had a lot of sex.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Hell yeah, brother, Yeah, that's how you get to tell Yeah, yeah,
that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
It's really not complicated. BC is not how. It's not
a complicated formula.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
You know, be happy and live your life. Yeah, that's great. Uh,
pickleball is becoming a violent game. Watch this. Oh wow,
crowned them. Yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Someone's got to call that ball there, you know what
I mean. Look with the outfielders, you got to you
gotta call the you gotta call the flat ball.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Indeed, Luke, do you play a lot of hackey sack
at high school? During Like?

Speaker 7 (01:49:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
I wouldn't say I played a lot. I mean I've
played it a couple times.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
All right. That was that was huge in my in
my community in the mid nineties. Look huge, We didn't
really play like soccer hacky sack. But watch this video anyway?
Could you could you volley here? Could you keep this alive? Luke?

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
But that's a full soccer ball, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Yeah? Yeah, they're just kind of booting it back and
forth here, But could you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
I could do a little bit, but not really, I'm
not I'm not like I'm good at this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
All right, watch this, Watch the flight of this ball.
This tick's keeping it going nice work.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
All right, all right, all right, hell hell yeah dude,
And that was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Wow. Yeah yeah. Oh look. This next message brings new
meaning to the term no shave November Harry pussy season,
throwing it back to the eighties. Luk, Yeah, there we go. Okay,
that's a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
That's a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Sure, that is the thing apparently. Oh, Luke, how do
you eat your ramend? Have you learned the new way
to do it?

Speaker 15 (01:50:27):
To eat it hard, the hardest way. I eat my
ramen noodles, I boil my water, and then I eat
the ramen brawl. I snort the seasoning packet, drink the
boiling water, and fuck bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
I've not tried that method, but that seems like a
little laborious.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
I gotta tell you, honey, I'm making dinner tonight. Don't
worry about it, all right. Yeah, And finally, look, you know,
six seven's taking over. It's out of control. Watch this
kind of on behind mommy on this side till you
can see all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Six s.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
My daughter does this well, the nine to eleven part
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Look here she does eight eleven. But I can't tell
if she's just messing it up because she's six, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
But hopefully all our nine to eleven fans got their
fixed this week. That's all the shit that I can handle.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
Uh, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
It was a c but it was a solid sea
given the given the state of things, you know, it
was an.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
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Dot Shop. I gotta get ready for CBS Sports HQ.
But it was great doing the show today.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Okay, thank you for doing it with me, BC, I
enjoy it. What are you gonna talk about her in hq.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
UFC three twenty two super preview coming here?

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
What are you going to be a h thank you
like every day this week?

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Yes, yes I will. I'm gonna be at the fight
Saturday as well, so hopefully I'll see some of our
our donks out there. You have C three twenty two
as if you can afford it, you know, if anyone
out there can afford it, all right, that's it Along Island, looked,
what do you want to tell these people?

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Bet breakdown coming out tomorrow. I'm gonna be on No
Bets Barred this week with Jed and prop Quays coming Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
But we'll talk about the championship, the season two championship
for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
So there's a chance we got some scheduling conflicts. I
might have to do like a one off matchup this
week and then the championship. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
But you know, all right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
LT.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
That's all I got for you. Okay, that's all I
got for you for LT. It's BC, thank you for playing. Hey.
Thursday eleven am Eastern Oscar Wilde will join us. It's
gonna get crazy. Brought to you by Quervo pregame preview,
Enjoy it until then, take care of yourselves. I'm out,
We're out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:52:52):
That's it.

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