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December 6, 2021 17 mins

Today’s special compilation from Season 02 is all about where people get their news and information from about China. Around the world, news and journalism continues to get more consolidated, more digitalised, and more aggregated onto social media. And China is no exception. But there is still a host of different sources to help people discover more about what's happening on the ground. So I hope you can find a few nuggets of inspiration in today's episode. Chapters 00:00 - Trailer & Intro 01:25 - Main 16:12 - Outro Subscribe to the PREMIUM version, see the visuals, and/or follow the full transcript for this episode at https://mosaicofchina.com/season-02-compilation-06-china-news-sources.

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(00:03):
[Trailer]Louise ROY: Oscar, only you.

OF (00:04):
You’re lying!

LR (00:06):
I am lying, I'm terrible. [Intro] OF
about people who are making their mark inChina. I’m your host, Oscar Fuchs.
Today’s special compilation episode fromSeason 02 is all about where people get their
news and information from about China. Andin case you didn’t hear the Wrap-Up episode

(00:30):
from Season 02 back in September, I shouldinform you now that this is the last time
we will be hearing guests of the show answeringthis particular question. When I first thought
it up, I imagined this question would leadto discussions over a wide variety of specialist
magazines and periodicals, reflecting thespecific industries or artistic fields represented

(00:50):
by the guests on the show. And there are someanswers like this. But as news and journalism
around the world gets more consolidated, moredigitalised, and more aggregated onto social
media, I can foresee that the scope for discussionaround this topic will continue to get narrower
and narrower in the future.
With this in mind, from next Season onwardsI’ll be broadening the question to include

(01:13):
any source of inspiration, rather than justsources of news and information. Sorry to
all the news junkies out there, please considertoday’s episode your one final hit.
[Main][Voiceover]

OF (01:27):
Stéphane Wilmet, the head of consumer insights at L'Oreal from Episode 01.
[Clip]SW: China Daily. Some of my friends - or some
acquaintances - they find this very reallystrange. But I think the business section
of the China Daily, there is not a day whenI don't learn something: a statistic, a number,

(01:50):
an insight. It's really interesting. For instance,in today's business section of the China Daily,
while private companies contributed 60% ofChina's GDP, they're responsible for 70% of
innovation, 80% of urban employment, and theyprovide 90% of new jobs. So you see, there's

(02:14):
always a little something to learn.[Voiceover]
Douglon Tse, the island businessman from Episode 15.
[Clip]DT: Shanghai Daily. Because there's so many
sources of media, different opinions. Butat least with Shanghai Daily, I know what
the government wants to happen. And with that,it's easier for me to align my business decisions.

(02:36):
[Voiceover]OF: Alex Shoer, the clean energy entrepreneur
from Episode 11.[Clip]

AS (02:43):
So I'm very impressed with how The South China Morning Post has stepped up their reporting,
and I feel like they've really done a nicejob of reaching the international audience.
So I do tend to get my China news from SCMP.But I also really do still enjoy Shanghai
Daily just to get my little daily dose ofwhat's going on locally. It is really helpful

(03:03):
to understand the perspective on the ground.[Voiceover]

OF (03:07):
Murray King, the public affairs leader from Episode 29.
[Clip]MK: I try to look at everything I can. So,
South China Morning Post is a great way toget some of the mainland news in a less filtered
way. Strangely enough, I like Shanghai Daily,their Metro News is great, it's a great way
to get a fix on local news. Sinocism is great.OF: Yeah.

MK (03:30):
上海发布 [Shànghǎi Fābù], the Shanghai Information Office. Everybody should
have 上海发布 [Shànghǎi Fābù] on theirWeChat as a subscription. And you know, the
best news I get is just what I see and hear.[Voiceover]

OF (03:43):
Casey Hall, the fashion journalist from Episode 22.
[Clip]CH: Because of my work, I get a lot of newspaper
subscriptions paid for, which is great. Butthere is one that I pay for myself, which
I feel like is a glowing endorsement of howimportant I find it, if I'm willing to fork
over money for it. It's called Sinocism, BillBishop’s?
Oh yes, yes. CH

(04:05):
open it every day, and read it every day.Because it just gives such a wide-ranging
round-up of what's happening in China, youknow, you're getting a fantastic curation.
[Voiceover]OF: Crystyl Mo, the fine dining expert from
Episode 26.[Clip]

CM (04:22):
Well, I do love the more long-form writing about China in The New Yorker. So I will read
their essays, written by some of the top writerslike Peter Hessler.
[Voiceover]OF: Ajay Jain, the car designer from Episode

(04:43):
21.[Clip]

AJ (04:44):
Sitting and drawing cars all day, I've got a lot of time to listen to things, I can
multitask that. And I started with audiobooks,and I got into podcasting. So I listen to
a hell of a lot of stuff. There's obviouslyMosaic of China now.

OF (04:57):
Ah, thank god. AJ
to the whole Economist cover-to-cover, andthat has a very, very good China section.
There's the Sinica podcast, which is verygood. BBC News always seems to have something
on China.OF: Yeah.

AJ (05:12):
But for me, The Economist’s China Section, every week you get the best bits.
[Voiceover]OF: Sean Harmon, the beer company CEO from
Episode 09.[Clip]

SH (05:24):
I was actually just this morning listening to the new Sinica Business Brief. I think
it's a weekly podcast. It's like 20 minutes,and it just updates you on, kind of, all that's
happening in the world of China business.[Voiceover]

OF (05:37):
Michael Kinsey, the fire engineer from Episode 25.
[Clip]MK: Scientific journals. There's Fire Technology.
Ooh. MK
as much since being here. I've just noticedit takes up a lot of time developing opinions
about things I don't necessarily need to have.OF: Yes.

MK (05:57):
So I try to find a variety of sources. So the South China Morning Post, The Atlantic,
The Washington Post, things like that.[Voiceover]

OF (06:07):
Cassandra Chen, the heavy metal bar owner from Episode 16.
[Clip]CC: There is a magazine called Painkiller.
Painkiller. CC
It's still the only one in China. And theyhelp the Wacken festival. It's like a German
heavy metal festival. They do it once a year,it’s one of the biggest heavy metal festival

(06:33):
in Europe.[Voiceover]
Vittorio Franzese, the lawyer from Episode 27.
[Clip]VF: So I know what's happening, because I
read maybe the first page of a Chinese newspaper,and I analyse the point of view of the Chinese
press. I watch CGTN sometimes. I read CHINAWIREand China Insights.

(06:57):
[Voiceover]OF: Jiyoung, the transgender teacher from
Episode 30.[Clip]

J (07:03):
I think it's really important that you go directly from the website, or from the
organisation itself. Because when these thingsget reported on - in many large media organisations
- some of the small touches to things arenot fully understood or explained. And so
I think getting it directly from the peoplewho collected the data is the most legitimate.

OF (07:26):
Jo McFarland, the product sourcing leader from Episode 18.
[Clip]JM: Well, we ask our factories. Because they're
really well informed. So even things… ifwe said to them “Where do you think the
exchange rate’s gonna be in six months?”you honestly get a good answer.
Yeah. JM
asked our Treasury. Because they are actually…Their fingers are on the pulse out here. And

(07:49):
we have a lot of factories that are connectedto the government. So we do tend to get very
good information from our network.[Voiceover]
Björn Dahlman, the Swedish clown from Episode 17.
[Clip]BD: I try to listen to friends from different
places. Like, I have my Chinese friends whorely on what they hear from their friends;

(08:13):
and I have my Chinese friends who really tryto dig into things; and I have my American
friends; my English friends; my Australianfriends; my Swedish friends. So I try to hear
all the stories, but then also try to be critical.OF: Yes.

BD (08:26):
But I must say, I’m not that interested in understanding it every day, but rather
put this in a 20-year perspective. You haveto be informed to a certain extent, because
that is your obligation as a citizen.OF: Yeah.
And then it's up to me when I want to dig deeper.
[Voiceover]OF: Vladimir Djurovic, the brand naming expert

(08:49):
from Episode 13.[Clip]

VD (08:51):
I get curated content twice a week, at the occasion of my Chinese class. Because
my Chinese teacher will pick up the curatedcontent from the news. And we will have a
review of very good content. So I'm learninglanguage, but actually, I'm learning a whole
story of topics.[Voiceover]

OF (09:11):
DJ BO, the DJ from Episode 23. [Clip]

BO (09:16):
I'm really interested in the history of Shanghai nightlife. There's the Andrew Field
book, ‘Shanghai Nightscapes’. Super useful.OF: Very cool.
[Voiceover]OF: Jovana Zhang, the handicrafts designer
from Episode 08.[Clip]

JZ (09:33):
Books. It's gonna be books about crafts. JZ
of Huang Yun Song, amazing, amazing design.He's designing them by himself, it’s a really
incredible sense of research, humour, andall together at once.
[Voiceover]OF: Cocosanti, the drag performer from Episode

(09:56):
05.[Clip]

C (09:57):
Oh my god, get ready for this. There is a website called 蛋蛋赞 [Dàndànzàn].

OF (10:01):
Oh right. C
especially if you don't have access to a lotof film and television online. This website
gives you the access to watch a variety oftelevision shows.
Oh it’s got a good library, has it? C
problem finding something you want to watchon. 蛋蛋赞 [Dàndànzàn].

(10:22):
Wow. [Voiceover]
Michelle Qu, the improvisational comedian from Episode 20.
[Clip]MQ: My favourite is 哔哩哔哩 [Bìlībìlī].
I have never used it. What is 哔哩哔哩 [Bìlībìlī].

MQ (10:33):
Oh, you should use it. It's really a lovely platform. It's a video platform
movies, and just short videos. ’APP主 [zhǔ]’- app owners - make videos by themselves.
So people will share their own understanding.[Voiceover]

OF (10:56):
Katherine Wong, the Peruvian healer from Episode 04.
[Clip]KW: I am not a person who reads news. But
if I read something, it will be from 'TheShanghaiist’. They have funny news.
Yeah, I don't think anyone's mentioned The Shanghaiist before. Yeah, they do a good
job.KW: Yeah, very entertaining.

(11:18):
[Voiceover]OF: Louise Roy, the childbirth and lactation
specialist from Episode 06.[Clip]

LR (11:25):
Oscar, only you. OF
I am lying, but I'm terrible. I really just pick from whatever I get my hands on.
I don't have a set favourite source.[Voiceover]

OF (11:37):
Noxolo Bhengu, the African community organiser from Episode 14.
[Clip]NB: None. But more seriously, I… Especially
like, you know, when we were being informedwhat's changing / what’s not changing, during
lockdown. You know, what's being lifted, whatisn't being lifted. I would always confirm

(12:00):
with a friend who works in an internationalschool. So whatever sources she would be using
seem to be true. So that's what I would do,just cross-reference with her.
Yeah. Yeah, that's useful actually. I am the same, because I do dip into certain
news sources, and of course I check WeChat.But then when it comes from someone who has
a direct link to something official, thenyou listen.

NB (12:23):
Yes, yes, yes. [Voiceover]

OF (12:25):
Jamie Barys, the street food expert from Episode 02.
[Clip]JB: So in our office right now, because we've
had, you know, so many people stuck out, weactually have a bunch of empty desks. So I've
had a couple of friends who are journalistswho are actually allowed to work from home
but have children, so they need to be ableto work from a place with no kids either.
So that's actually been like my recent source.I'm just like “What's going on in the world,

(12:48):
guys? Do I need to know anything?”[Voiceover]
Salome Chen, the investor and developer from Episode 24.
[Clip]SC: I have a lot of people who work in the
media field on my Moments. I lived in Beijing,so I know a lot of people there who get to
know certain things. And you know, in Beijingyou have the rumours, different kind of rumours

all around. So I get trained (13:13):
you hear something, you analyse it with your experience, you do
some research by yourself. Yeah, I try notto read so much Chinese media.
[Voiceover]OF: Wendy Saunders, the architect from Episode
12.[Clip]

WS (13:34):
WeChat is actually a very good source of news - or is it gossip? I don't really
know - but you realise, everything you knowgoes through WeChat. And you sometimes forget
that people outside of China don't.[Voiceover]

OF (13:50):
Zhao Huiling, the Africa travel vlogger from Episode 28.
[Clip]ZH: I rely a lot on social media. So 公众号
[Gōngzhònghào] is how I get a lot of myinformation. I go on 微博 [Wēibó] every
now and then. And that's about it.[Voiceover]
Danma Jyid, the Tibetan social enterprise leader from Episode 10.

(14:13):
[Clip]DJ: I mean, WeChat is big. I use it a lot.
But also WeChat recently has Channels. I reallylike that, because if my WeChat friends like
something, then I can also receive a similarfeed. So that’s so interesting.
That’s a new thing, yeah. [Voiceover]

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Zhang Yuan, the performance art exhibitor from Episode 07.
[Clip]ZY: I have to confess, I read no more papers.
I mean, journals, magazines, all these sortof thing.
Yeah. ZY
through social media.OF: Yeah. And so even in a specific niche
like contemporary art, everyone still justrelies on WeChat, right?

ZY (14:53):
Yeah. There are periodicals, but I don't think people are reading them seriously. People
will take a look, but they will not spendmuch time on them.
[Voiceover]OF: Seth Harvey, the education coach from
Episode 19.[Clip]

SH (15:08):
I, of course, use SmartShanghai. Like, that's my number one go-to thing, I read everything.
I read every article, like what events aregoing on. Like, I even have a pastime - a
hobby - where I love going through all theapartment listings. I'm basically an uncertified
apartment agent, I can tell you what the marketvalue of things are, and how the market’s
doing. I even love going through the classifieds.And secondly, I use WeChat quite a lot. I

(15:35):
am the biggest lurker of group chats.OF: Oh.
I lurk in so many group chats, I get all this information, insight. People are like
“How do you know that?” “Group chat.”OF: Yeah.
Everything from foodie and restaurant groups, to exercise, cooking, social events.
I'm even in a dad's group. So there's a groupfor expat fathers, a big one. And they talk

(15:59):
about all kinds of stuff. And I have no kids.And I don't really remember how… someone
put me into this group… but I never left,and I just lurk, and I get so much great information
from that.
[Outro]OF: Thank you for listening, if you’ve reached
this far then you’ve made it to the end!I try to inject as much fun as possible into

(16:21):
the show, but there’s no denying that thetopic of news and information sources is always
going to be kinda dry. So congratulationson making it through what’s probably going
to be the driest of these 10 special compilationepisodes from Season 02.
Mosaic of China is me, Oscar Fuchs, with artworkby Denny Newell. And I’ll see you next time.

(16:42):
[Clips]SW: Thank you very much.

JB (16:46):
Thank you, it’s been a pleasure. CC

KW (16:48):
Thank you so much. C

LR (16:51):
Thank you very much. ZY

JZ (16:53):
Thank you. SH

DJ (16:54):
Thank you. AS

WS (16:55):
Thank you. VD

NB (16:56):
Thank you. DT

CC (16:58):
Thank you. BD

JM (17:01):
Thank you very much. SH

MQ (17:03):
Thank you. AJ

CH (17:04):
Thank you. BO

SC (17:06):
Thank you. MK

CM (17:07):
Thank you. VF

ZH (17:08):
Thank you for having me. MK

J (17:10):
Thank you so much.
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