In this episode of Mothering From Within, host Kaili Ets sits down with McCall Gordon, a researcher with a background in human biology and applied psychology, as well as a certified gentle sleep coach. Together, they uncover the surprising gaps in sleep training research and discuss how temperament plays a crucial role in baby sleep.
McCall challenges mainstream sleep training advice, explaining why popular methods—like Ferber—fail to account for more alert, sensitive, and intense babies. She also sheds light on why sleep research is often misleading, how it impacts parents, and why a one-size-fits-all approach to sleep isn’t the answer.
This conversation is essential listening for parents who have ever wondered:
- Why doesn’t sleep training work for my baby?
- What does the research actually say about baby sleep?
- How can I trust my instincts and make informed choices?
Join Kaili and McCall as they debunk myths, expose flaws in common sleep advice, and empower parents to embrace responsive, instinctual caregiving.
00:03 – Meet McCall Gordon: Researcher & Gentle Sleep Coach
01:35 – The Challenges of Conducting Sleep Research
02:38 – Why Most Sleep Training Advice Fails to Consider Temperament
05:53 – The Impact of Misinformation on Parents
11:55 – How Temperament Shapes Sleep Patterns
16:16 – Why Many Sleep Training Methods Don’t Work
18:06 – Final Thoughts & Encouragement for Parents
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- Macall's Website
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