Airplane! (1980) w/ Ana

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Hello and welcome to movie part,the podcast went Movies.
I'm your host Brian Wishart, andthis week I'm joined by Anna to
discuss the Zucker Abrahams and Zucker disaster comedy spoof
movie Airplane from 1980. How are you doing, Anna?
Doing well. How are you doing?
Pretty good. We're recording sounds a little
bit early because I'm going off at TIFF in a couple of days for

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big stretch of time. So yeah.
So whatever comes up in the news, I'm not sure how topical
with new stuff overall, but it'sgonna be a day by the time 2
weeks rolls around with episode comes out.
Well, it would have been really topical like four or five months
ago. Yeah, but quickly things appear
to have calmed down, so it's a little less topical nowadays.

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Also, like there's all stuff like all these airplanes flying
in the sky and everything and like, I'm not sure if it's still
a thing anymore, like. I mean, commercially, we've
seemed to have gone back to where we were originally like
before the big crash in DC. I know there is a lot of other
incidents. There is one in Toronto and I

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think there was one in Korea. And seeing that, yeah.
Because that wasn't like, how did that lose its wing?
Like. Yeah, that one was like upside
down and they were letting people out of their seats upside
down. Yeah, it was pretty nuts.
Where was that one big crash where everyone dogs were one guy

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who's like walked off because they're like window?
Side yeah, that was the I1 nuts.That one was insane.
I don't think they know what happened.
I think the current thought is either it's either like bird
strike or intentional grounding,so they're not sure.

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Could go either way at this point.
But yeah, that one was insane. It's a miracle plane in the air.
It really is. Like, yeah, seriously.
Like actually all the stats say like air travel is like the most
safe former travel there is. Like, just like there's a low
risk of fatality. Can really driving a car like
being on like a bus or something.
We're trying to make sure laugh and stuff isn't gonna be whole

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dower thing about how like fear the airplane.
Like now like fly planes. Planes are fun.
Like, you know, it's, it's not comfortable being a plane
though, but it's kind of cool when you think like, fuck, I'm
like I'm flying over like half of a country right now.
Yeah, and so I specifically chose airplane because I find
myself on a lot of planes going around visiting family.

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You know, my family is pretty scattered all over the world,
and I've spent a lot of my life,surprisingly, on airplanes.
So yeah, it's something that I really enjoy and is pretty near
and dear to me. And so, yeah, it's also just a
fantastic movie. Yes, you came to me with the
topic before the movie overall. So you wanna come on talk about

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inflate movies like well, like kind of focus on movie, but like
you know he's like OK, fine, this airplane perfect.
So like airplanes are really joke heavy movie and very plot
light overall. So like, I think this upside
movie possibly different than the rest, just because we're
going to be like, you know, you can go beat by beat when it
comes to the move. Like, Oh yeah, this joke happens
here. This joke happens here.
Cause a lot of visual gags love,like, you know, like a lot of

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sight gags on me, but it's really hard to do on an audio
podcast. So like, I feel like having a
good special talk was gonna makethis conversation go really,
really well because otherwise it's gonna be like, yeah, let's
Nelson said this and less Nelsonsaid that.
And then there was like a naked woman ran around a plane for a
bit looking. Right.
Yeah, definitely. To me, this occupies a very

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similar space like The Simpsons where the plot serves to drive
jokes rather than the other way around. 100%, yeah.
And yeah. So like a big thing is we're
talking between the plot though,is that this movie is based on a
movie called 0 Hour. I watched, did not know that cut
it up. No, Yeah, until you brought it

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up and then I almost watched it.Couldn't really find an easy way
to do it and decided I wasn't going to try that hard because I
kind of enjoy when you are talking at me about movies.
So would love to just hear this go in and kind of blind.
I'll probably try to find this later, but.
Yeah, I found Internet Archive, So like it is out there, but not

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like the best quality, but yeah.So Zero hour with the
exclamation mark, just like Airplane.
Zero Hours based on a Canadian TV film, like a teleplay called
Flight into Danger, stars that James Doohan, Star Trek's
Scotty. He's the hero in the movie and
it's the exact same plot. Zero Hour and fighting in a

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danger in airplane are the exactsame plot where it's about some,
you know, X wartime pilot there who has some trauma, some
mission who's flying back duringthe war and everything.
And he's afraid to fly a plane. And then he's on some like big
fight there trying to get back his girl.
And there's some bad food servedon the flight there in the
pocket incapacity. And then he has to be told by

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his mentor back from the war andeverything, and how to land the
plane. Oh my God.
OK, so that's insane that it's like a direct beat for beat.
Parody It's a direct free parodyto the point where they actually
like bought the all. I think they spent like $25,000
on the rights for 0 hours like an actually copy like legit full

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lines of dialogue from zero are are in this movie and like like
completely like shots in the movie are taken with 0 hour.
They legitimate for airplane. They would have 0 hour equitable
playing nonstop in the background.
I think you'd ideas like how yougoing to shoot the shot like
well, like let's just steal the show from 0 hour and like have
like, you know, pan down this way or have like a do this exact
scene like this movies also parenting a lot of other

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disaster from the time. Cause like like the airport
movies were huge rounds point intime airport resident written by
A and there's an Arthur Haley and Alex Haley Arthur.
One of them wrote roots and one of them wrote airports.
So I can get there, right? OK, Trevor Stories.
Yeah, Arthur Haley is the guy wrote Airport.

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OK, he's not the guy wrote Roots.
Yeah, the guy who wrote Airport.He also wrote the screenplay for
0 hour. So this is kind of his like he's
really big in the disaster genre.
So this is parodying a lot of like big movies at around that
time, just like these self serious big disaster movies.
It's a written and directed by acomedy group that goes by

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Zucker, Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker, Jim Abrahams and David
Zucker and Jerry Zucker who are brothers.
They had a a comedy theatre, they called it Kentucky Fried
Theatre. They would later create the
Kentucky Fried Movie in 1977, which I have not seen.
I haven't seen it either. I've heard a lot about it.
Yeah, I've heard decent things about it.
Yeah. And so the trio, what they would

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do to get ideas for. They did a lot of commercial
parodies and their comedy bits. So they record late night
television for ideas. And one night they
unintentionally recorded 0 hour off of TV and they were watching
like this is a good like medium,good conduit to like make some
comedy off and like their initial.

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And was that zero hours that they're gonna carry here and
have a look commercial parodies within the movie itself.
So probably a lot of like inflight entertainment things
that have some commercial like, you know, side tangents and
stuff like you can kind of see at the end of the movie with the
new segments having like, you know, news broadcasters make
jokes here and there. So that's what they're going
for. You know, it makes sense for a
sketch comedy troop to do this, but they're eventually convinced

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like drop all the commercial parodies. 0 hours the exact same
plus airplane. I found this one link online
where it actually has like the entire screenplay for Airplane
but has the every time there's aline that's directly ripped,
ripped off from Zero Hour, it's bolded.
So like, you know how a lot of this movie is.
Dialogue is right from Zero hour.

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Significance like every major like scene comes like anyone
having a good emotional moment. It's usually from Zero Hour, but
then there's like punctuate withsome really funny dialogue or
some funny psych guy. OK, cool.
That actually sounds really awesome.
I would really like to see that.I think any other movies were
actually just like directly parodies the material to the

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point where it actually has the exact screenplay and exact plot
in there usually. Like a spoof would just kind of
do its own thing like thing likeSpaceballs and Star Wars are.
They're not ripping off entire stretches of dialogue, right?
Honestly kind of reminds me almost of an early days like
YouTube poop if that makes sense.
Or like when people would do like those abridge like anime

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things and there would be like adisclaimer like they actually
said this. This is real dialogue from the
show. I like watch like I didn't watch
much. I watched some Dragon Ball as a
kid. I watched some Dragon Ball Z,
but not enough to be truly attached to it.
I think it was more of a Dragon Ball kid overall, but I watched
like a lot like in high school has some friends are really
YouTube poop. So like we like loading them
like my Nintendo Wii on YouTube at parties.

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Always like YouTube poop videos of the Dragon Ball Z like a
bridge stuff like it was like Ohthis is actually from like wow
this show is insane. Like what was I watching as a
kid? Yeah, no seriously, I did want
to kind of go back to something really quick that made me, it
did remind me of something you mentioned that this movie, 0
hour exclamation point is like set in Canada and is based off

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of this Canadian TV movie or whatever.
You guys, because you're Canadian, that's why you're into
TIFF. Do you guys have like this weird
obsession with plane crashes? Because there is a show called,
I think Air Crash Investigation.I wanna say there's some show
that's about like plane crashes and they do these dramatizations

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about like plane crash and they hire this like animation studio
to do the CGI like recreations of the plane crashes.
And that's Canadian. And it's broadcast on the
Smithsonian Channel in the States.
And I already know about it because when I go home, my dad,
it's very much a dad show. That's my dad's very frequently
watching it at home. Like I come home and they're

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like, you know, doing chores andlike it's just on in the
background. And I looked it up and it was
Canadian and I'm like, do you guys like what is with you guys
in plane crashes? Honestly true, that kind of show
is not in my realm at all. Like there's like those shows
like ice truck highways and such401 rescue of all these like

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dramatic reality shows happeninglike, you know, here in Canada
and stuff and like they're just not my cup of tea at all.
Like I like drive the 401 a lot like the 401 highway.
So like seeing for one rescue isso funny because like, you know,
it's like all these people like everything so dead serious.
Like of course, because people in car crash and stuff and
always rescue workers. But like every in my mind, like

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I don't know, like I don't watchreality TV shows really at all.
And it's so funny to me because they always really TV.
They have the exact same music, the exact same commercial breaks
down the exact same dramatic beats and everything every
single time. So for me, I find like that's
why I'm into them, because they feel like I'm watching the exact
same thing, like watching Deadliest Catch and four one
rescue and they have the exact same dramatic beats every single

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time. Yeah, or like Alaskan Gold Rush
or whatever. Yeah, they're literally the same
thing. So I got it, Yeah.
So like, there's not really my realm.
Like those shows are popular up here.
Like they are they do pop up on TV a lot.
I never heard this one specific plane crash one directly, but
they they are big shows and stuff.

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And like, I guess like, you know, I notice a lot of stuff
out there when it comes to like,you know, the mysteries like
that Malaysian flight, flight 370 and like, so my favorite TV
show of all time is lost. I love the show to death.
And like, so like there is like something partially intriguing
you about like these like unexplained mysteries out there
too. But like, I feel like there's a

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lot of so much speculation aboutwhat could happen the of the
unknown that like I remember thespecific point where I I
remember where I started stoppedwatching cable news.
It was when that plane went downbecause they're doing wall to
wall coverage like CNN and MSNBCand stuff like, oh, here's
what's going on this plane there.
Like they're probably gonna findan answer, but they they

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dedicate like legit like a full month or six weeks nonstop world
wall coverage. Like what's gonna happen this
plane there. I was like, Oh, well, like
sometimes you just are never going to know these things.
And it's not, it's improper journalism to actually dedicate
all, all the time. There's other things to talk
about in the world. Yeah, and I remember that one
specifically because they were doing all these off the wall
theories, like what if they got swallowed into a black hole?

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It's like you guys are CNN. Let the heck are you.
I'm fucking unfollowing scene and everyone things on my
socials cause like you are the dumbest people on the planet.
Like you bring that if a black hole swallowed in one plane then
we'd all be dead. Like I think we would have
noticed if there was a black hole in Earth's atmosphere that

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could swallow a plane, you know?So it's so baffling.
And like, yeah, people love like, and I think that goes with
disaster movies too, is like people like especially around
this time, like in the 70s and 80s, like when disasters get
really big again is like people kind of love to see like, you
know, like people under pressure, complete catastrophe,

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people trying to solve the problem and everything.
So there is like some human instinct that really wants to
figure out exactly what happens with the stuff.
And I feel like the disaster genre isn't really much of a
thing anymore. I try to think with lots of
major disaster movie was like. Like they're usually be movies
like this Twisters count as a disaster movie I.
Would count that. Yeah.
Yeah, twisters would count. I think that kind of crappy ass

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movie 22,012 and they started that viral marketing campaign.
Yeah, the movie so dumb, but they did this whole viral
marketing campaign. The disaster movies.
Yeah, yeah. But like, I feel like they don't
have the same, like, prestige and like, you know, like almost
something like, like Towering Inferno on the 70s, which was up

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for Oscars starring OJ Simpson. Wait, really?
Yeah. OJ Simpson Towering Inferno and
like that's almost like the sameprestige almost was traded
becomes like it went didn't win as many as awards as Titanic
like Titanic in the 90s when that was the big disaster
movies. But that was like a Titanic
itself was like a callback to like the epics of old, like the

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disaster was of old. Yeah, and similar to your like
watching people under pressure, I think also in the 90s was
Apollo 13 with Tom Hanks, that movie.
Cause that's when we two yeah. And like I feel like with
airplanes doing is like as movies parroting all these
things back then. Like it it's parenting a genre

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that like doesn't really exist anymore, which kind of makes it
really funny that like we don't have this genre so we just have
airplane there. But like the Sony movies that
like we that's parenting itself.Like I went through all the
airport movies several years back.
I found one DVD and like they are so fucking goofy and funny.
Like they get worse and it's just like the Jaws sequels, they
get worse as they go along. It's funny watching a parody of

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something that does not really exist anymore.
Because now I think Airplane is more culturally significant than
any of these airport movies. Yeah, for sure.
I think like Airplane, like stands alone.
Like before I got here, I wouldn't have known that it was
a parody of those specifically. I basically thought it was like,
just like, what can we do to putthese characters in this

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confined of a space as possible?And how many jokes can we make
out of that? Like like I don't have the
context. This is also similar to like
movies like Spinal Tap or whatever where there's spoofing,
like another thing that doesn't exist outside of like, Dad
television. Yeah, like the music biopic,

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which I know is having a quote UN quote Renaissance with some
kind of miserable movies and Bohemian Rhapsody.
And like, what's the other one? There is another one that was
kind of mediocre, or there's been a bunch that are pretty
mediocre. Theatre, musical, biopics.
So like what I consider mediocrepeople because they're
masterpieces. Like I don't like a complete

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unknown. I don't like Elvis like.
Yeah, I think Elvis was the one I was thinking of that was
pretty mid, but everyone watchedanyway because it's about Elvis.
So I guess that one's kind of a bad comparison.
That's that's sort of coming back.
And the disaster movie is definitely the realm of the B
movie nowadays. And like walk hard, the Dewey
Cox story that with that John C Reilly, that's kind of the

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parody of those movies. I think it's the perfect biopics
in general is because it's just like completely skewers the
entire form of like this person like, you know, solve this.
Like once they saw the guitarist, everything completely
change their lives and everything.
And it's the exact same format that all these moves follow.
It's just so generic. Like sports movies do the exact
same thing as well. I think happens always follow

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the exact same traps on making these very generic kind of
movies. And I think those asteroids
became extremely generic eventually because like they
were really overdone by the timeairplane came around and one of
the airplanes starts off like soairplane starts off with we see
like a bunch of clouds. We hear the Jaws theme startup
and we see like a plane going through the clouds at the tail
of it. So it has the proper drawings.

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Music, jazz is a disaster. Me too.
I saw that actually saw Jaws early in theatres today.
Like that was only five years before this movie.
So people were always like, thisis very much on the mind of the
1970s going to 1980s, like this kind of specific movie of like
the big spectacle movies of the 70s were often like these
disaster movies. These big movies were like, you
know, someone saying isn't happens like this is before

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Superman came in existence for like theatrically and like, you
know, became like this is what we kind of movies off of.
It's probably the buddy cop movies, the 80's, the sci-fi
movies like alien, aliens in the80s.
Like this is like the kind of thing this is.
Like this is like almost like what you would be like if you
were trying to pair like an MCU movie would be parroting a
disaster movie. Yeah, that's super cool.

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And then it's really great context to add to it.
So yeah, I think that weeds pretty well into like getting
into it. The last thing I'm going to say
is I didn't realize that Zaz made the Naked Gun movies.
Oh yeah, the original one. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah. They, yeah, they, yeah.
They really lucked out getting Leslie Nielsen in this movie.

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Yeah, which he's awesome in it and I know it's a meeting to
death, but this is the first time he did comedy.
But really, he was a natural at it and so.
This is the first time alone to call Me too, which we'll get
into as well as we introduce thecharacters because, like, yeah,
they picked people because they work as they're serious dramatic
actors. And like, they all seem to be

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itching to be part of a comedy because like, I don't like from
like what I hear what actors like, actors don't like being
pigeonholed into one specific thing.
Like they kind of branch themselves out in the kind of
like, if you're like truly love your art, you kind of want to
try different things. Yeah, well, so I mean, the
obvious current example of that is John Carlos to Zito, who they
inserted into an MCU movie to beJohn Carlo Esposito.

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And like, he's been typecast ever since Breaking Bad, but you
watch, like, some of his older stuff and that dude is funny.
Like, he is such a good actor. And I really feel like they're
wasting him in a lot of these newer things.
Last night about that before we get into the movie about
Shanghai Esposito, and that is the fucking Payday 2 like

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trailer. They included him in an update
and they basically parodied the fact that he's John Carlos
Posito and everything. And he's like, I need my Payday
too. This smiles at the camera, but I
guess like going on these like parody things is that didn't
kill poor John Carlos Positas having to be Gus from Breaking

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Bad and everything. Which is really unfortunate
because I hope he finds his airplane or his naked gun where
he gets to just do silly shit. Again, he's like dead serious
but also pretty campy and fun. And make a leopolis.
OK, I have not seen that still because.
Lappas is nuts. Like it's most people hate it

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but I admire it because it's like a direction to it.
Very, very weird swing. That one is another great like
we can get into. Yeah, where I'm pretty sure that
one I saw, I think it's this onewhere it's either it's like a
touring movie on Broadway or youcan see it on like American
Airlines long haul flights. Yeah, that's it.

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You cannot watch Megalopolis on streaming service.
You have to go like either see where Francis for Coppola
screening at or you have to likewatch it like on a specific
airline flight. Yeah.
Nuts I love. It, you know, John Carlo
Esposito is saying like movies been funny, but one movie is
actually really funny and is it's a 2020 movie called
Unpregnant. It has a Haley Richardson, a

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Barbie Ferraria from a Euphoria.OK.
It's like an abortion draw whereHaley Richardson's trying to get
an abortion. Somebody pull up dramedy.
And yeah, there's like 2020 I watch is on the flight to
Saskatoon, I think to visit my sister.
And and like very funny, like John Carlo Esposito.

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Like it starts off like we run, they run into him like he's like
some sort of like hardcore, likealmost like a militia type
person. But he plays it so damn funny.
Like he actually gets like show off some comedic chops, which is
like like very refreshing because like I think it was like
he was right the middle doing better call at this point in
time too. It's like he was still in the
Gus Fring mode. Right.

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Yeah, No, I'll definitely go seeif I can find that somewhere
that sounds. Really good.
I really don't want a lot like that movie came out as well as
what we call Plan B with similarpremise where some young woman
gets pregnant and she wants to get an abortion, but Interstate
it's like she got kind of get the abortions like she has to go
across state lines. So they gonna road trip with a

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friend. But like, you know, don't get
along kind of thing for the likevery, very good movies.
And I watched that. I was unpregnant I believe on a
WestJet flight. It's pretty crazy.
The sort of things they have. We can either get into, we can
kind of lead into that now, unless you wanna get into the
movie. But.
Maybe a little bit too. Yeah, I got to the the jaws part

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of it so. Yeah, we have the 1st 5 seconds
covered. The 1st 5 seconds.
OK, let's go a little bit deeperand then we'll kind of laid off
a little bit. Yeah.
So we see at the airport a Ted Striker who's a taxi driver
arrives and he's chasing after his girlfriend.
So he leaves his taxi fare behind.
Like he's just like leaving someguy just like like just jacking
up the fair and everything's girlfriend who is a flight

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attendant named Elaine and Ted'splayed by Robert Hayes, who has
not heard that significant of a career.
Like he's in he's in stuff. But like, not like, you know
anything really that prominent. Elaine played by Julie Hagerty
and she's popped on a lot of things over the years like she
was in She's the man marriage story.
She's also was Lois's sister andFamily Guy.

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OK, yeah. So she doesn't voice work too,
which is fun. And yeah, so she wants to end
things with him because she cannot live with a man she does
not respect, which is a line from zero hour.
Like, that is fully from zero hour.
It's like, not just like a, you know, it's such a brutal line to
say to someone you're breaking up with them.
Yeah, I was gonna. Ask from the 50s movies are

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parenting and so Ted's been unable to get into a plain ever
since the war. So some dark trauma and it's
fine with this one because like with 1980, the kind of thing you
think like maybe like, oh, maybethe war is like the Vietnam War,
but it's just the vague past war.
It's not like 0 hour like Canadian telefilm there.

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Whereas like clearly suppose World War 2 because it's been so
long. Like this is just some vague war
that happened in the. Past yeah, my partner and I are
actually commenting on it because at the time it came out
obviously was Vietnam and you know, they could have gone like
the Vietnam War parody route, but no, it was just kind of like
the war as this nebulous thing. Like a lot of it looks kind of

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World War 2 aesthetic. But then like the I guess I
don't know what it's called. Like it's not surely you, but
you know what I mean, Like land leave, is that what it's called
when you're in the Air Force? But yeah, it looks very Vietnam
the 1st. True joke of the movie you hear
over the intercom there like a man, like you have to park in
the white zone and that only this kind of carpet in the white

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1 was like, oh, like only actually only this car can park
in the red zone. And there's bickering back and
forth over each other. And I guess the playing, there's
like a OHK, like, we know this is really about you just want me
to get an abortion. Like, whoa.
It's a sensible thing to do. Yeah.
So those two, they couldn't get the proper voice actors to do

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that. So they actually hired the
people that were working. Like I think we have been LAX
like that. So 2 actual people who are
married, who worked at an airport together.
Oh my gosh. Oh, that's great.
That's why it's so good. And the dialogue about the
abortion scene directly is like lifted from some other disaster
movie. It's like they talk with their
own abortion, like them being the workers, being a husband,

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wife, everything that dialogues lived like all the it's a
sensible thing to do like. You can tell it's of its time
because they still had abortionsright up for Roe V Wade.
We get introduced some other people who are involved with me
too, so we meaning you get interested.
Peter Graves, who plays the pilot Captain Clarence over

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Graves doesn't actor. He's picked because of all his
serious roles, and he's actuallybest known for playing Jim
Phelps in Mission Impossible theTV show.
And that's the card that Jon Voight plays in the first movie.
Ohhhhh, OK. And a lot of Mission Impossible
fans hated that first movie because they turned him into the
villain. Yeah, turn this villain.

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So Captain Over gets a call fromthe Mayo Clinic, which of
course, because it's a parody movie, is stocked with, like,
there's so many shelves, like, full of mayonnaise.
And there's a live beating hearton the table where he translated
into a little girl. So there's a nice ticking time
on we have for this plane to actually arrive someplace.
The pilots are, you know, getting ready to fight.
And Kareem Abdul Jabbar plays the first officer, Roger

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Murdoch, which is so fucking funny in this movie.
He's fantastic in this movie. I have a personal like soft spot
for cream of Bulge. Marcus.
He actually spoke at my college graduation.
It was in COVID so I got a videoof him, but I was like, hey,
it's the guy from Airplane. Not from basketball.
Practice. Yeah, well, obviously like

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they're like introduced him as agirl and it's like, so probably
could have done acting more if you really wanted to you.
He's so funny in this movie. Like honestly like a highlight
of that scene as I know everyonequotes what the pilots saying to
the kid but like legitimately like just you try dragging their
asses up and down for 60 minutesis so fucking funny.

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And I'm in the same fantasy Football League together, and
right now we're doing some football talk because in Zero
Hour, that part was played by a guy named Elroy Crazy Legs
Hirsch. That's a great sports name.
So he's a Hall of Famer halfbackin the NFL.
Oh my God. So many. 1945 started 5th
overall. He played most of his career

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with the LA Rams. He broke the receiving record
with a 1951 with 14195 yards. Wow.
And that's really. 12 games in the.
NFL shit, yeah. See broke a ton of records like
some like have not been broke broken like relatively recently
like half back in the NFL like it's insane how much they were

(28:11):
to catch back then like. Yeah, no, that's insane.
Actually did not know that. So that's.
So like that's. Like 125 yards a game.
What the hell? Yeah, he having the, I think he
had like the per game record forlike decades and decades.
Like because like, how do you get that much yardage in the
game? Like like it's like, it's like

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absolutely nuts like that. Like what a different era for a
sport to like, you know? And like, it's hard like, like
judge to compare like past records and sports, like modern
records in sports because it's just so different.
Right. But 14 or 85 yards of any player
did that. Like, that is like, you have
like a Pro Bowl season. You have like, one of the best
things ever if you break like, you know, 400 yards just in

(28:53):
general. But like, yeah, doing that in 12
games, I was like, well, 18 games in football now, like.
It's yeah, it's that's 50% more games.
And also like that was also during the time when they would
just kill you. Yeah.
If you were like, there was no like, oh, like all the players
safety rules and stuff, which are great.
And even like looking back like 10 years, like you're like, man,

(29:17):
sometimes like Kam Chancellor hits like, I don't know that
they would allow that nowadays. But like, you go way back to
like when this guy was played inthe 50s and it's like they just
would like break your leg if youwere gonna score.
So to do that back then is absurd.
So the reason why Roy Hirsch's name, nicknamed Crazy Legs was
apparently had a really weird way of running?

(29:38):
His legs looked all fucked up. I'm kind of curious to look up
what it looks like now. Like after he was done as NFL
career, he like, you know, got involved with some minor action
roles, including in zero hour replayed the, you know, the
first officer. So like them casting Carino dual
Jabbar's first officer is a reference to the fact that the
Castle sports guy for the previous one.

(29:59):
Pretty good guided cast for that.
So Kareem Abdul Jabbar, like youwanna get paid a specific amount
of money for the role for this movies because he wanted to buy
a very specific expensive rug helikes.
He's so cool, man. The directors are just like, is
he fucking with us? Is like it's some weird
negotiation tactic by his agent.But then like after they pay

(30:21):
actually paying for the movie. Like he like some like and like
People magazine. There's some article like, Oh
yeah, criminal. Abdul Jabbar is really proud
with new rug he just bought froma movie.
That cycle so perfectly fitting.Where for this movie though,
where it's like, oh, I'm going to do this very weirdly specific
thing basically for a bit. And like his characters name is

(30:43):
Roger Murdoch and his A Peter Graves played a Clarence over.
So like as we're doing all like,you know, talking the radios,
like, you know, like, yeah, thisover Roger.
That's over that like a lot of good comedy that pops up there.
Yeah. So you mean some other passions
that pop up on the plane, which includes a couple black men who
speak quote UN quote jive and where they get translated by

(31:05):
into quote, UN quote, more sophisticated English.
So yeah, the 80s. So it's not very racially
sensitive. Yeah, I was like, you know, some
of that hasn't necessarily aged well.
I did think part of the like part of the humor though was
that when they translated it, they didn't translate it into

(31:26):
regular like American English. At the rest of the characters
were speaking. It was this very formal, like
almost British coded like posh like thing, which is honestly
enough for me to let it not fully slide, but it is a very
funny bit at least if nothing else.
Deliveries really well done too.Like, yeah, they do.

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I think they do it pretty, pretty well.
Like they bring it back a coupleof times and like, it's like a
really funny subtitle gag they can pull off too.
Yeah. And they bring in later on.
There is older white lady who isI think is drive.
Yeah, some like I think she was from soaps is what my partner
said. Like.

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OK, I don't watch. Or like just over just like
various soap operas. Soap operas.
OK, yeah, OK. Yeah.
And like, so she comes on as like, I'm sure someone's gonna
crack that in the mail bag. But yeah, they just bring in
this old white lady who speaks like perfect jive and they're
like, or just like, stunned by it.

(32:28):
So yeah. And we also meet at the young
girl who Needs new heart and hermother kicking around.
There's a nun on board is reading Boys Life magazine.
And there's a boy on board reading Nuns Life.
Magazine. And Tessa sound efx and old lady
and it's like, oh, like you looknervous like you like I am
nervous like I was your first time.
I don't know. I've been nervous before.

(32:50):
And yeah. So tag goes on by starting win
back a lane. Um, and as old ladies like, oh
wow, her like she's like the lanes right turn there.
It's like, oh wow, she's so beautiful and keeps going on how
wonderful figure is. So it's like, you know, just
very firm thighs and supple breasts.
Like really horny about her too.Yeah.
Oh, actually I did have one lastthing about the dive section.

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I don't know if you want to insert it back in, which is that
I don't remember where I read this, so take this with a grain
of salt. We might want to look it up
after we're done so we can cut this if this isn't true.
I think they brought those two actors and they're like, they
were black performers from the time, and I think they actually
at least wrote that scene themselves.

(33:31):
So they were asked to create something that was like, OK,
that's sort of parodying E, but also like making it very clear
that it's like a fictional, like, gag thing.
And so they were allowed to write it themselves for my
recollection. And then they had to teach the
other actress like, like how to get the flow correctly.
OK, like. Just white guys writing like

(33:54):
things. Yeah, writing what they think
AVB sounds like. It's like actually like it's at
least them like writing it themselves.
So the joke isn't necessarily the age the best, but it's at
least, you know, it could probably be written with more
sensitivity than some movies even today.
Definitely. Yeah.
So. As Ted's going on about like,

(34:15):
you know, talking about like, you know, telling you, Ted's
telling this old lady, but how he met a lane.
So I flashed back to CD Bar backwhen he's in the military, he's
in like a white military uniform.
The bar has a lot of scheduling figures and silog guys, like eye
patches and stuff. And there's like pretty scuzzy
overall. Two guys getting a massive fist,
but they're knocking everything over.

(34:36):
Like it's a big huge bar brawl. And one of the guys gets knocked
into a jukebox and the Staying Alive by the Bee Gees starts to
play. And yeah, we got a huge extended
Staying alive dance sequence, which is like the movie.
The movie Staying Alive came out.
Like, I'm not saying like, sorry, the movie Satanic Fever
came out like a couple years before this.

(34:56):
Like, that was a huge song. Then the movie Staying Alive
came I think a couple years after this one.
Do you see that? One.
No, I haven't. I can't say I have.
It's the sequel to Us Right Fever and is directed by
Sylvester. Stallone.
Really. Oh my God.
OK, I figured yeah, probably thereason I haven't heard about it,
but I have heard of Saturday Night Fever.

(35:18):
Yeah, it has a great ending to it, but it's just overall just
not a great movie. Saturday Night Fever was a
cultural sensation like that waslike 1.
We're like the soundtrack went Grammys and stuff is the biggest
soundtrack of the year. Course, like, ever knows the
song staying alive, Like, so like, this is parroting a movie.
Like a pretty big song came a couple years prior and yeah, so
like, you know, everyone's on the dance floor now because the

(35:40):
music's playing. So, you know, it's a disco
pretty much. It's a disco disco ball coming
down below everyone doing disco dancing.
There's a Elaine sees Ted sees Elaine on the dance floor and
complete infatuated right away. Elaine dancing party get stabbed
in the back by some other hoodlums.
So then that's poops in and so it's like, you know, it's so

(36:03):
funny because it completely goeslike completely over the top.
Like what they're doing is dancemoves and like they directors
went to Robert Hayes, who plays Ted's his resume to finding what
have you sending your resume you're able to do.
So they mentioned he mentions resume.
He's able to juggle and dance. Like are going to make you
juggle and dance like him doing that crazy, like, you know, like
almost the can't type thing while juggling.

(36:25):
You can see you can see the wires in the centre.
So she's getting a little wire work done too.
Like the juggling is all him, which is really impressive.
Like I can't juggle with shit. Yeah, that is like super
impressive. We did comment on the wires, but
I was like, that's still pretty sick that he was doing at the
same time. So impressive.
Yeah. Because like now, like you would
just like I don't like like a body or something like they

(36:45):
actually like shit. Like they actually found out
this actor is able to do all this work and like actually made
like look all practical 10 lane or slow dancing in the night
where they meet one another. We returned the present.
The old ladies beside Ted is just hanging just hung herself.
Her legs are just dangling. No one gives a fuck about his
back story at all. It it's really fitting to like

(37:07):
bring that. I know that ends up being the
running gag, but that sequence is just so long that I come and
I'm like, I don't remember the sequence being that long.
That's awesome. Very.
Long yeah. And we get more flashbacks in
the past, including them like running around in a beach and
everything and like, you know, making against the waves, which
like the directors commentary they had never seen From Here to

(37:30):
Eternity before and thought theycame up with it themselves.
And it's great just from here toreturn.
They're making them talk about their future and their love one
another. There's like catfish like just,
you know, dead, dying beside them and everything along the
seaweed like Ted mentions he's going to be classified mission.
They're happy now, but they won't be soon.

(37:50):
But back in modern times, we seea little boy named Joey.
He enters the cockpit and we eventually Kareem Abdul Jabbar
before and so the captain who's making is always very always
homoerotic pedophile jokes to Joey like Joey Here's an A grown
man naked Joey like gladiator movies.
Joey. You've been a Turkish prism.

(38:13):
Which are very funny. And it's like, I don't know if I
should laugh at this, but, you know, it's pretty still, really.
Apparently told Peter Graves like, oh, don't explain like why
your character journalists, someoff scene dialogue never do
that, Yeah. Total non sequitur.
In 0 hour, like the two lead cars, they do have a son whose

(38:34):
name is Joey. So like there is a Joey on the
plane as a kid. So like it's good.
I'm glad they didn't make Joey their son.
Glad that Joey just like a one off characters, like a 12 off
joke character. Yeah, during the drivers comment
they all say like there's one big dialogue that they cut.
There's like Joey, have you eversucked a grown man's cock?

(38:56):
Yeah, that's a little. Probably pushing a little bit
too. Far, yeah, even in the even in a
comedy movie, that's just. Like this movie is rated PG when
it came out. Like this PG 13 came out Um,
yes, another thing this plane isthat they that they want the

(39:17):
movie makers wants me to be a propeller plane, not just like
in the original movie studio made him look like a modern
plane, but the plane always propeller plane noises because
that would be a lot funnier. Yeah, it's a really subtle thing
that you kind of like don't think about until you see the
outside shot the plane and you're like, doesn't make any

(39:37):
sense, but. It doesn't sync up at all.
Yeah, you kind of just so think about it though, because it
works because most of it takes place inside the plane.
So you're not really thinking because it's just plain
background noise. But yeah, that first cut is
wait. And of course.
It's nice weekend, he said. The plane it's a model that

(39:57):
you're using which is always looks fantastic.
I love these models for plants rather than like to do now.
Yeah, the models are so much better, like and you can tell
like I know you guys were kind of talking about this on like
Godzilla episode, but it was like when you let the modeling
teams like have fun, It's it's. Awesome.
So it's so charming. It's so, yeah.

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It's so great to look at, like it's real light hitting objects
and everything is not someone creating a fake digital realm.
It looks so good sale he can't take keeps getting traumatic
flashbacks. So the first I'm playing in a
long time. So like we get a lot of stock
footage of like planes crashing and such, and we get a flashback
to Teddy is recovering in hospital from a plane crash he

(40:39):
was in after a big mission or people died.
Um, Lance trying to cheer him upand everything.
Six men did not make it back to think of something he did in the
mission. The father was gone for about
too long. There's one part of the story
where human language helping African tribe like, you know,
he's teaching them basketball and she's teaching how to like,
you know, how to use Tupperware to store food.
Ted develops his drinking problem which just Robert Hayes

(41:02):
with a glass of water just always splashing his face in his
mouth at all, which is just likethe funniest like way they think
about drinking. Every time I hear someone say
drinking problem, I always thinkof airplane.
I was thinking people, it's likesplashing water, like the wrong
places. It's one of probably 1 of like
the best like 7 setups and like just like nailing the landing of

(41:23):
a joke in the movie which is high.
Bar alcoholism, because that's what this kind of script would
tell you it's gonna be. But no, it's just he has
problems drinking the verb. We got back to modern times we
we see a Japanese soldier commita seppuku in front of.
Him. He's not his story.

(41:45):
And yeah, so this is where we get next, pretty much the next
in the movie, where passengers are starting to get sick on the
plane. And turns out the options right
around meal time was that if you're on the plane, you can
have either steak as a dinner orfish as a dinner.
I think it's so sick, she says. Like I've not been this sick
since I saw Ronald Reagan film like.

(42:08):
And. And then we have to figure out
why passions are sick. We're at minute 37.
The movie. We are introduced the MVP of the
film, who is a Leslie Nielsen. Yes, Doctor Rumack and yeah, we
mentioned this before, but like he had never been a comedic
actor before. Like he had been type guys for
dramatic roles like using forbidden planet beside an

(42:29):
adventure and he always kind of wanted to comedy and he was not
the first choice of the movie. He was cast Justin at before he
watched the movie. He watched 0 hour like before.
His cashless was like OK, yeah, I understand this now.
I will just play it just like the dark in that movie.
Like I'll play completely dead straight, like a dead serious
actor and like that just completely changes the entire

(42:51):
career because that's we did forthe rest of his life and he's so
fucking good at it. Yeah, But like, I know we're
jumping around a lot, but like, there are so many line
deliveries where he just, like, comes in and nails like a
deadpan line delivery. And it's just like, the funniest
thing you've heard anyone ever say.
And like, specifically, like what I was thinking of that made
me see, like, jumping around a little bit was like at the very

(43:13):
end after they landed. And he's like, good luck.
We're all counting on you. They just like look at each
other like confused. Like every muscle in his face
has the perfect expression. Like, it is like, he's like,
he's like, it's almost like he'slike, not even aware joke is
happening. Yeah.
And which makes it so funny because it's like some desirous

(43:35):
Dr. like playing a role that hasno real comedy to it.
But like, he just plays every single line of dialogue as it
was the most serious thing ever and generates the best comedy
out of it. And so now that he knows people
getting sick and everything he had, you know, he tells Elaine
that passengers sick, they need to be taken to hospital
immediately. Elaine says a hospital.

(43:57):
What is it? He's like, yeah, it's a big
building with patients. Look at that sort of quarter
right now, yeah. And so then we realized that the
crew in the cockpit is starting to feel ill as well.
So Leslie Nielsen is asking how soon they can land.
I can't tell you, Captain. Like, well, you can tell me.
I'm a doctor. They can't land for a couple

(44:18):
more hours due to fog and a zerohour.
They couldn't land because of flying over the Rockies.
I think 5 works a lot better. Yeah, Uh, yeah.
So Leslie Nielson concludes thatpeople who chose the fish over
the sticker getting sick. He himself had the lasagna, so
apparently he brought his own orsomething.
Yeah. So he explains to Elaine that

(44:40):
physical symptoms that will haveeveryone's getting sick.
So captain over is expressing all the symptoms as like a he's
explaining them. The playing goes in the nose
dives. They have to activate auto the
autopilot, which is an inflatable autopilot with like
you know, it's a guy like in a pilot uniforms like someone just
some white guy like you know, blue suit, little blue hat and
everything for the silly stuff smile on his face.

(45:01):
Yeah, it's A and his name is Otto OTO if you watch with
subtitles. And so Elaine gets in contact
with the control tower in Chicago.
Supervisor there, Steve Mccroskey, who's played by Lloyd
Bridges, acting legend. He's another person who's known
for playing dead serious roles. You guys play his deadpan,

(45:23):
finally. So Light Bridges, he was
actually encouraged to take the role after he talked to his
children about it. So like, yeah, Jeff Bridges is
responsible for this role. Huh, awesome.
Pretty cool. I also did not realize that
Lloyd Bridges is Jeff Bridges dad.
Yeah, he's a Lloyd. Bridge is the father of Jeff
Bridges and Beau Bridges. There you go.

(45:45):
Never babies right there. No 100% but.
Jeff Bridges is like, he's one of those guys that earned his
career. He's just how he actually high
level performer. So yeah, McCloskey, his big
runner joke is he was like, oh, like, looks like I picked the
wrong week to quit smoking, the wrong week to quit drinking,

(46:05):
quit the wrong week to quit amphetamines.
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue and SO light
bridges advising Elaine how to get the plane to stay level.
The autopilot fails so it startsdeflating.
So Elaine has to inflate the thesex toy looking thing by little

(46:25):
tube that's right by the dolls groin and she's inflating auto
the auto pilot the little like fucking sex doll thing just like
out of the huge grin on his face.
He just like, turns and looks atthe camera.
It's like it's all like occurring in the plan.
So and the directors commentary,they're saying that they as like

(46:48):
a prop was a store in someone's garage for like a like 6 months
and started disintegrating. So like Oh my God, I'm no longer
exists. He's not part.
Of more playing. Anymore.
Rest in peace, Auto. So clearly they need someone to
actually who's clearly they needsomeone who can actually land
the plane. So Elaine goes on the intercoms
like, hey, like everything's fine.
Is there anyone on board who canfly a plane freaking out now?

(47:12):
It's a striking Harry Krishna. Guys, topless women running
around, people established over swords.
Like Ted is still telling us sadsex stories.
There's a man with a pouring gasoline all over himself and he
has a light. He's like a match going.
He's ready to his own fire. And then another flight is like,
hey, Ted come into the cockpit. And then like the guys, just
like he ends up actually blowinghimself up anyway.

(47:32):
Yeah, he's like, he puts it out,but then just as he like puts it
down. Really, he just explodes it.
Which is like the one effect they do in post production
because they couldn't get obviously blow up a person and
everything. It's like $2500 to actually get
that post production effect in place.
Like, yeah, it's totally worth it because the rest of the

(47:53):
movie, like all this stuff is done like on set there.
It's like all practical effects and everything.
It's all like, you know, actual props is actual models actual.
It's actual performances. It's not like jokes added in
posts like you know, like a Marvel movie now where
everything is post like there's nothing done.
During production itself, like and you can tell like that a lot
of the extras on board are actively reacting to like the

(48:15):
insane things that are happeningaround them, so.
Perfect and perfect degree too. It's not like it's so
distracting, like they're reacting the perfect degree to
the insanity, to the point whereit's still funny.
We still buy the weird reality of a spoof film.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
And so like, uh, at this point, Ted goes up the cockpit.

(48:39):
He sees that no one find the plane, and Lizzie knows now.
It's like, can you fly this plane and land it?
Ted says. Surely you can't be serious.
I. Am serious and don't call me
Shirley which is like one of thebest lines in cinematic history
is just the way he is. Just so frustrated with the line
too. Like I am serious, of course.

(49:01):
And Ted hesitates because he's never flown playing like this.
Like it has the wrong or engines.
He looks at the control panel and like when they pan it, it's
just like super long, longer than any playing could possibly
be. Like this is going to be very
overwhelming to actually fly this plane.
So Chicago air traffic control again, trying in touch with a
commercial pilot who can try andteach someone how to fly

(49:23):
commercial plane over radio. So they get in touch with
Captain Rex Kramer, who's Ted's a former commanding officer in
the military. So he knows all of Ted's history
already. So currently Robert Stack and
he's best known for the TV series The Untouchables as well
as the host of the TV show Unsolved Mysteries.
He is yet another dead serious actor.
Kazumi because like, no eyes ever gets to be a funny person.

(49:43):
But all it. Really has to be serious people
who are serious people are just so fucking funniest movie like
this movie not working like likethere's one guy offered was the
actor's name is like he is like this one is like almost the
stereotypical gay guy in this movie.
Oh yeah, yeah. He's like, that is like such a
like, you know, some funny lineshere and there.

(50:03):
Like it is such a showy performance compared to the rest
of the movie. They're really sticks out.
Yeah, it works super well specifically because everyone
basically just kind of ignores him, but he's doing all this
insane shit. And like, it's really contrast
the deadpan with like the over the top because the plot and a
lot of the visual gags are over the top.
And so you would expect all of the dog to be over the top.

(50:25):
But so much of it is played straight and that makes it
funnier because it's basically people acting normally in a
world that is just completely fucking insane.
It's a spoof reality and I thinkit works so well and I think
that's the problem like a lost spoof movies like kind of lost,
like you know, like 90s onwards,like the new naked guy maybe
does it pretty well too. Like having the perfect reality

(50:46):
going on like that is a great job of like having people react.
People gain their exact right level of like where airplane is
where like the reality is insaneand such.
And you have people reacting to jokes when it's funny and like
not reacting if it's funny. Like it's in the service of the
jokes more so than the plot, which I feel like a lot of

(51:07):
these, a lot of movies, comediesespecially gets too heavy in the
plot, which is never fun. People like people come here for
a laugh. Yeah, no, I agree.
Also, a lot of them are so obsessed with being over the top
and like quirky and look what I'm saying?
It's funny so you're supposed tolaugh and it's like you just
need to let the joke speak for themselves.
Yeah, exactly. With a Teddy's pretty bad flying

(51:28):
the plane, at first he was fucking it up.
All the passengers are freaking out because like he's like
jerking the playing a lot. There's one woman in particular,
like freaking out and someone comes by to shake her to calm
her down. Then another man comes along,
does slaps in the face to shake her, calm down, calm down.
Then Leslie knows like I'll handle this sort of slapping her
a couple of times. There's a whole row passenger

(51:48):
ready to hit her. So except for the row of people
ready to like hit this woman forto calm down.
This is from Zero Hour. Wait.
There's a woman freaking the hell out in 0 hour and Someone
Like You know, like like calm down, calm down shaking her and
then like it was like don't worry, I'll handle like calm
down and start slapping her likethat is from like the movie

(52:09):
they're parodying. It's not original thing from
this movie. I lost my mind with all zeros
and saw that like. Wait, why?
I thought that was supposed to be like played straight?
What is that? Is that just how they treated
women in the 50s? I think absolutely it was, yeah.
Like honestly, we'll say overall0 hour, it's not overall worth
watching. It's just OK as a movie.

(52:30):
It's interesting if like you want some more airplane history
but like overall it just watch airplane again cause this movie
is timeless. Yeah, well, it makes that makes
it like the perfect like spoof base for it to be like very
generic, so you can just insert all the jokes in as needed and
the Dead Space. Yeah, yeah, I wish, like more

(52:51):
movies just did that. Like really funny, like a spoof
movie like nowadays, just like, I don't know, like.
Any MCU movie. Yeah, that's the thing.
I'm I'm truly waiting for the first great MCU spoof.
Like it has to happen, right? Like.
Well, they tried to do it themselves with like Deadpool
and that didn't work because when you're making fun of
yourself but you don't actually like, you can't be too mean

(53:15):
about it. And so it just ends up being
like haha, look how self deprecating I am.
It doesn't work because everyonesees threat, but.
My problem with Deadpool is thatlike it's basically just jokes
that it's not really jokes, not really spoofing anything.
It's basically just saying like here are some stuff that people
commented on Reddit about like an MCU movie or Marvel movie in
the past. There we're gonna put on screen

(53:36):
and have Ryan Reynolds like fucka couple times.
So I think like almost the interest get things to almost
self aware. Which which is Deadpool stick.
And they did. I must admit they did kind of
get right that Deadpool is an annoying piece of shit because
they cast Ryan Reynolds. Yep.
But. Yeah, but I fucking despise all

(53:58):
those devil movies. Jesus Christ.
They're the fucking worst. I like, yeah, I feel like that's
probably the closing you get to the kind of the parody Movies
Now is something like that whereis kind of like, but I feel like
meta humor so baked into our culture now as being kind of the
main thing like people do. Like if you make something
better, it doesn't really feel that fresh.
Like say what make the Naked Gunway, but I don't really feel

(54:21):
it's not really that matter because it's kind of painting
something that doesn't exist anymore, right?
It's. I mean it, yeah.
It's really making fun of those like police Academy or like
those old police procedurals, which, yeah, it's not a thing
outside of like, TV. Like people still watch like,
whatever, law and order and stuff, Yeah, but that's not like

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a thing in movie form. They're just long running, like
procedural. So those are basically monster
of the week shows by the way, but.
Those are different guys cause like those movies are more
popular than anything else. Like you know, more people watch
The Good Doctor than probably watch like Stranger Things, but
you don't hear what the Good Doctor that much on social media
can be like Stranger Things, which is like dominates all this
discussion. It's just different realms out

(55:03):
there. Someone finds an insane thing of
the guy yelling at he coming at us.
Johnny Cat, Yeah. Every God, I watched an episode,
I watched all of the good document and a friend went back
to it and it's the most insane thing in the world.
Like, yeah, no, he's right to not be a surgeon anymore.
Like, he should absolutely be like, taking off and like

(55:24):
putting some different department, like he's yelling at
patients and she's not a good doctor.
However, they cancelled the gooddoctor for being transphobic.
Oht God. And racist, too, he says.
Like one girl's like, oh, you must be a terrorist because
you're brown like in. Fact I'd heads probably the
highest rated show on televisionin that time slot.

(55:44):
Too I gotta let go back and see other show ends I'm fast and see
how it this series of finally the good doctor looks like.
It's got to be the most insane thing.
Ever. Yeah.
It cannot be tasteful. At all.
We need more spoof like shows than is what I'm hearing.
There's so much. I know Brooklyn 99 kind of did
that and then they got too self aware and like Oh no, we're cop

(56:06):
again. And then in the last season, it
was kind of them, like, we're woke now, I promise.
It was a weird thing to do, yeah.
Yeah, but it kind of worked. It was like not necessarily a
spoof, but like adding like kindof blending workplace comedy in
with like a standard like by thenumbers police procedural.
Um, I guess Zach also kind of does that, but I feel like a lot

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of it is like what comes to mindis House.
I've never seen House. I just know people make jokes
about it and I think that's like, that's not actually
textual. I think that's people just being
silly about, I think House. Yeah, so.
There's all the House fans out here because I've never watched
2 episodes of House. Didn't like us, never watch
anymore. Yeah, pretty much.

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But yeah, like I feel like just like TV in general is afraid to
look like a TV show. Like what the pit really stood
out because the pit actually wasstructured like a TV show, how
long TV show tropes and stuff and felt good quality.
And I feel like, yeah, like I feel it's kind of hard thing
making fun with your own TV shows that like, you know,
you're making the jokes we've already made about yourself,

(57:16):
which I think is a problem with like, you know, Star Wars, that
problem too with The Force Awakens rest Skywalker comes
like, you know, like all the people are like the stuff
they're commenting in the movie,stuff that people commented on
like in forums back in the 2000sand stuff as well.
Like you're just kind of appeasing a Reddit based
audience rather than kind of like telling your own little
jokes. They coming up yourself?
Yeah, honestly, I'm trying to think of like who did it the

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best and I think I I'm coming back to it because like Airplane
fits the same Simpsons wrong. I think Simpsons is the one who
does the best 100%. No Family Guy does like the
parodies, like in place parodies.
They do it more like inform moresimilarly to Airplane.
They have like the Star Wars andthen in episodes they have like
mini parodies of succession or whatever is big at the time.

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And I think, um, yeah, but I think Simpsons, especially with
their Treehouse of Horror, does it a little more similarly to
how Airplane does it, where it takes like mines and set pieces
and stuff from the show. And instead of being like, it
wouldn't it be funny if Han tooka couch out of the trash
compactor? It's like, you know, actually

(58:22):
like using like, I mean, the called standard is The Shining
parody where like The Shining where they're like using the
form and plot of The Shining andinserting jokes into it and
really making the characters their own while still keeping
the same form of it really. I wonder what the problem with

(58:43):
that now is because like it takes so long to make a TV show
like so like for some of The Simpsons are like Family Guy,
like it takes like, you know, like 9 months a year to actually
get an episode from writing to like the final stage of after
animation. Like South Park can do things
fast because they take like 6 days to make an episode, which
is like unbelievable. They're able to do that.
So like they're quick to the punch tonight live as quick as

(59:03):
the punch too late. It shows a quick to the punch.
But even by the time like Seth Meyers makes a joke on like his
Tonight Show, like that joke wasmade a million times on Twitter
and blue sky already. So I feel like by the time like
something Simpsons rolls around these days, like Simpsons
Treehouse of Horror is gonna be like probably like 12 months and
a million like a cultural waves out of like, you know, out of

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date. Like.
And whereas I feel like back with like some like airplane
back when it came out, like you weren't really getting the same
like people making the exact same jokes with the exact same
things all the time. Like you might hear on late
night shows and stuff. And like some comics saying here
and there, like you weren't as like overexposed all these exact
same jokes all the time, which Ithink makes this thing stand out

(59:47):
so much more. Is that like you just have like
this feels? It's probably felt like fresh
because like only finally someone's deflating this really
self serious genre rather than being like like all like another
person being from the MC like ifyou wanna see something from the
MCU, you just have to go online and look at anything like people
would be deflating it every one point out all the flaws in it
and like I'm. We keep going by the MCU because

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like, that is like the obvious big genre that could be parodied
to like kind of deflate it because it's just the most
dominant thing happening in, youknow, in the cinema right now.
That is like still like the mostdominant genre and like I1I
truly I think there will be probably a great superhero movie
parody at some point that's not actually made by like marvel or

(01:00:31):
DC because like they have their own you know, offshoots of like
funny shit that's happened theirown franchise too.
But like I'm waiting for I get true, like, you know, airplane
style parody of that. Yeah, the closest we have is
probably like, oh, Batman. Yeah, that was a great.
Movie, which is an awesome movie.
It's probably the best. I'm gonna piss off Dark Knight

(01:00:52):
Trilogy fans here. I think it's the best Batman
movie until The Batman. I like that take.
That's yeah. It's like, yeah, truly it is
like it has like the, it's structure like a Batman movie.
It feels different than a Batmanmovie, but it still knocks all
the things that make Batman silly but also kind of like bit
of a love letter to you too. I also don't really think that

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like this. I'm not sure if airplanes a love
letter to the disaster genre or not.
Like I feel like it's having funwith it.
Like I feel there's a lot of like, Oh, we got to like, you
know, Revere the genre making fun of.
But I tried airplanes, really inlove with airports, those movies
or the Azure genre in general. Or it's like long as a fun
medium to make fun of some shit.Yeah, no, it's definitely like,

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what is missing is that I don't want to say vitriol, but sort of
uncaring of the source material of like just being, you know
what, this is a vehicle to make jokes and we care about it in as
much as that, so we're just gonna go out there and be funny,
which. Should be enough in my mind,
Like, you know, making comedy funny, like, don't worry about,

(01:01:58):
like, you know, being a love letter for sure.
So yeah, with the movie, yeah. So we were last talking about
the woman getting slapped aroundand then we get a cream that
comes to the airport and fist fights all the solicitors trying
to sell shit. The airport, which is like very
like that be like which is. Involved in there?

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So then we have all our crew in the sky.
They're all together in the cockpit.
We have a crew in the ground. So like, you know, we're finding
the movies are trying to, you know, get this plane down.
So Ted and Cramer, they're like,you know, talk with the friction
of the past and decide, you know, we're going to remove past
our previous disagreements and like, I'm going to build your
confidence. And was like, oh shit, it's a

(01:02:40):
God damn waste of time. Leslie's route him into Lake, MI
avoid killing innocent people ashis fingers on the radio still
says here. I can't really think.
And yeah, so then also like, youknow, trying to get all the
technicians together to figure things out.
And one of the radar texts that got, he's the guy who's like,
oh, how long for this to get done there?

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And he checks a micro. Like, it was like, he checks the
heat on Turkey and it's like, it's gonna be two minutes.
Jonathan Banks. What?
You have Breaking Bad and BetterCall Saul.
Yeah. And it's really funny to listen
to the audio commentary because,like, they're like, oh, yeah.
Like, you know, that's on the banks, who later on quote, go

(01:03:21):
and play like a villain and Beverly Hills Coffin, Like
there's a counter is definitely recorded before Breaking Bad
because everyone knows this guy as like, you know, like the
stodgy, kind of serious guy fromthat show.
Yeah, he's the dude who gives them Walter that dressing down,
right? Like yeah, he's like, yeah.
And just like an insane stone cold badass so.

(01:03:43):
I love John makes incredible actor and Mike Armentrout such a
phenomenal character. That's a love that series.
Yeah. So, yeah, so then reporters get
ahold of the story. You begin publishing what the
trouble of planes in for the evening edition and we get
newspapers rotating flipping in the place there so we can see
the hell in the front page. And one of my favorite jokes and

(01:04:03):
anything ever is the National Enquirer pop.
It was either front page and it says boy trapped in refrigerator
eats own foot. Yeah.
I like first I was like 8 years old and I've been laughing at
that joke ever since I thought was the funniest thing in the
world like. Because it is.
National. It's such a National Enquirer
type stories too. And so the TV news start

(01:04:26):
reporting story as well. So we get like, you know, some
like TV news stories type parodies and such.
And on the show, Counterpoint host says Shanna, they bought
their tickets they know they're getting in for.
I say let him crash is built to my brain every time I say that
so often. I really love news stories.
Like I was reading one article that collided it back in 2020.

(01:04:50):
And but like, how? Like that line of letting him
crash is pretty much every modern news story in modern
media is now. Whereas like, you have like a
clear situation, like, I don't know, like if a bus is on fire,
you're gonna find some story online.
It's like, well, let the kid in the bus burn themselves alive.
Like everything's so vitral and evil and mean now.

(01:05:10):
You know we literally saw that with the billionaire sub.
Under 100% my phone to say that too is like, I still have the
same thing like Oh yeah, well, you know, you're up to let them
sink like. Yeah, well that one was
especially grim because it's like they put the Speaking of
the wall to wall coverage. They put the obviously we found

(01:05:30):
out they were like goners beforethat, but they put that like
oxygen counter on. It's like you're basically like
putting a timer on like 5 peoplesuffocating to death.
Like how fucked up is? That and you're merely just
betting on it too, so you don't actually know any actual
information. Like, you're right.
It's so gruesome. It's like almost like we have
like, you know, like an NFL gamelike all like here's to a

(01:05:53):
tongue. Viola is like brain structure
right now. Like.
OK, well here's. The counter Here's this health
bar right now. Let's see, we're going to
discuss and die. It's what if they like in that
Damar Hamlin game because I knowyou're both fan.
What if they kept the game goingin in the corner?
Put his fucking GKG reader on the.
Side it's exactly the same thinglike, you know, it's not news,
it's not actually good for the public.

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It's not good for public knowledge.
Like you just like you're just sensationalizing events and like
absolutely this movie gets rightthe fact that people will be
completely sensationalizing it and like I love it.
There's like 1. I was like well fuck him, let
him die like. Yeah.
And that is truly what would happen right now is that people
be like, yeah, well, like, you know, maybe one person room for

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the death of absolutely everyone.
There's always gonna be some weird asshole Simic who is going
to try to often politicized for profit, politicized for own
gain. Like there's gonna be some weird
people just doing things for themost psychotic reasons.
Yeah, for sure. So it's yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So we're ready to land the
plane. Ted freaks out one last time.
Leslie Nielsen gives him encouragement, tells a good

(01:06:55):
story to inspire Ted. The Notre Dame fight music
starts playing. I I legitimately thought this
that like I don't watch college football much at all and like
when I hear like that play in college, but I'm like, oh, the
song from airplane. I don't associate with like,
Notre Dame. I wished you a Notre Dame fans,
I could tell them, he said. That.

(01:07:15):
Unfortunately, I don't like damnit.
Well, if you find any sounds podcast listens and I'm so yes.
And now we get the inflight entertainment, the movie where
an old lady like how soon would we like?
Don't worry, it's gonna be soon.Don't worry.
It's the lady puts on those old timing old like headphones and

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to relax and calm down. And the inflight movie showing
which is the big screen in the middle of the plane is just like
footage of a plane crash and exploding into flames.
Which is awesome. First off, hilarious.
Second off, as an aside, if we want to get into a more, we can.
But yeah, so this is like a great lead off into talking that

(01:07:58):
like inflight entertainment justit's really fascinating because
like I mentioned, I travel a lot.
I've spent a lot more time on planes than I any human ever
said. And yeah, just like what the
different selections are is really fascinating to me.

(01:08:19):
So kind of leaning into that. Like, First off, there's kind of
this rumor that they won't show movies that have plane crashes
or stuff on planes. That's not universally true.
A lot of them have disclaimers. I think some airlines.
Right here. That's apparently with this
movie. Only one airline bought the
rights for Airplane, Aeromexico and no other nice airplane.

(01:08:44):
Yeah. So.
So Airplane was an example of a movie where, like, no airlines
wanted it for, like, despite it being a big hit because, like,
because it was a plane crash, like, this is.
Yeah. So like, times have probably
changed a little bit. And there is a lot of like weird
superstition, maybe not as much nowadays, but even when I was a
kid, there was a lot of weird superstition.
Like if you ever boarding a plane, you should take note on

(01:09:05):
whether or not there's a row 13 or if it's on an Asian aircraft.
If you're flying like a Japaneseor Chinese airline, you should
look and see if there's a row 4.A lot of times that's omitted
because like superstitions are bad black so. 1235 kind of
thing. Yeah, yeah, or like 1011121415,
etc. That's also the case with a lot

(01:09:27):
of tall buildings. But um, yeah, in this specific
case, I think it's because they,it is just like weird thing that
it does to you. You know, people like joke about
how it's sort of like a fallacy,but how awesome it is when
they're sitting, they always have CNN on at the airport and
it's like someone just sends a picture of plane crashes in

(01:09:49):
India, like 300 people dead. And it's like, oh, great.
Just what I want to see before Iget on my flight.
Umm, yeah. Not all airlines like will do
that. I did like find an article
actually about like how a lot ofthe industry works, which I can
send to you and you can share inthe show notes if you like.

(01:10:11):
But I know some airlines just put like a disclaimer about it
and some just don't give a fuck.A lot of these, especially
nowadays. So I think earlier on, like you
mentioned, airlines would have picked and chosen on their own,
but it's become such a thing that's expected, particularly on
long haul flights. But you know, on any flight, um,

(01:10:33):
to have like the airplane movies.
So now they have like, as with everything capitalism, like the,
everyone has their own fiefdoms,but um, there's now like
contractors and groups that willorganize like movie rights and
collate them and they can contract out and all the movies
that you watch on a plane, everything's data now.

(01:10:55):
So they're like, gather the datawhat's popular and the
contractors will go to the moviedistributors and be like, oh,
like here's what we think will be popular and here's how much
we think we're willing to pay toput your movie on our planes or
like distributed out to our further customers who are like

(01:11:16):
airlines and stuff. And so when an airline has
doesn't have as many movie options, it means they're
cheaping out like they're buyinga cheaper package from that
content provider, which is a separate entity from the
distributors because it is basically to streamline
streamlining that that process, which totally makes sense when
you're in the business of finding playing.

(01:11:37):
The last thing I wanna do is negotiate with Paramount and
Disney and. Try to get the Gal Gadot Snow
White movie. Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, it's really interesting, like what people
get into. So one of the things I want to
talk about is like, do you have a preferred airplane movie?

(01:11:57):
Like what to you makes like something you would watch on an
airplane? Like what's the platonic ideal
of an airplane movie to you? For me, it's a movie that I have
to pay that much attention to. It's often a rewatch, A rewatch
or something. You know, it's not gonna be like
that like heavy to think about our right lot of tension to like
like a simple favor that Anna Kendrick won.

(01:12:19):
I think that's a perfect airplane movie where it's just
like something like low key is just exciting enough that you
can keep your attention, but youcan kind of just like kind of
like fade in and out. I feel like the perfect airplane
movie something can just as easily watch hungover on a couch
at home after like a native drinking.
Like I feel like I would cause it's a big bombardment like a
big like spectacle. I don't really wanna watch on a

(01:12:41):
plane because like it's a small screen right?
Like, right, it's not the most ideal.
Like I'm the kind of person, like I kind of watched things,
the most ideal environment possible.
So like, I'm not gonna be watching, like, you know?
One star on a plane, yeah. I didn't want you to do.
Yeah, yeah. You never watch that movie.

(01:13:01):
Had a Monster Hunter convention.Well, yeah.
Well, so similarly, I actually agree.
I want something that's very pretty simplistic so that if I'm
falling asleep or if I'm eating or playing games on my phone or
on my Switch or like, I can pause it and get up and go to

(01:13:21):
the bathroom and walk around andtalk to whoever I'm traveling
with. So my platonic ideal of an
airplane movie is Bullet Train all that movie.
Yeah. Not honestly, not that great of
a movie. Yeah.
Yeah. It's not a good movie, but it
has enough going on that it's, like, visually entertaining.

(01:13:46):
There is, I will admit. There's the Bad Bunny sequence
to get a laugh out of me. Um, you know, it's kind of
actually, you don't really give a shit about the plot.
So like if you just get up to gopast because the bathroom light
is off and you just need to go as fast as you can, like you're
not missing anything. There's enough visual sauce that

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it's like taking away from the fact that you're on a crammed
into a tiny metal tube, but alsoit's not so great that you feel
like you're missing out on like some excellent cinematography or
something. Um, so yeah, that's um, when I
watch another one and this is apparently supported by data is
Crazy Rich Asians. I see.

(01:14:32):
Yeah. Which is apparently the most
watched movie on airplanes. Really.
Yeah, there's a lot of travel associated with it.
And you know, they get on a plane like 1.
The climax of the movie like kind of happens on a plane.
The planes on the ground at. Least pretty low.
Like you know, the stakes are not that drastic, if that much.

(01:14:55):
It's not that scandalous movie. Right.
It's just like a simple ROM com.It's pretty funny actually.
Remarkably well shot movie I will say, when you're not
watching it on a plane. Surprising, because movies are
usually hideous. Yeah, it's definitely his best
looking movie. Wedding scene is absolutely

(01:15:16):
fantastic. So we'll say like legitimately
like gorgeous. Like, that scene is like,
actually like one of my favorite, like, cinematic.
Like, that is like the ideal ROMcom like scene to me.
Yeah, I watched that on my most recent trip to Asia and so did

(01:15:37):
my partner. So.
Yeah, with me like a, I always like how this like, you know,
this hesitation comes like, you know, like I think I remember
watching my Big Fat Greek Wedding on a flight back in like
2001 whenever that came out. So like that was like back when
they would have like 1 movie playing on a flight and they

(01:15:58):
like right down the middle and like let's be watching on.
And so like for me, an airplane was always one that was like,
you know, something usually rated PG, not a lot of new year
violence. You're not going to like, you
know, actually expose like a four year old to see something
on TV or something. But yeah, I remember, although

(01:16:18):
Eric is flying school trip, you're flying from like Toronto
to Frankfurt as they were to. Go to the school trip.
Actually it was a trip to Spain.Actually tripped out of Spain or
Italy. Either way we did Toronto to
Frankfurt, then Frankfurt to Rome or Madrid, whatever trip it
was. But the movie they played on the

(01:16:40):
flight was Australia, the Baz Luhrmann movie.
And I swear to God that. Like they started me like when
the movie The plane took off andlike it was still going when the
plane landed. That is the longest feeling
we've ever seen in my entire life.
Like I feel like watching Homestar runner like shorts my
iPod instead because I was so fucking bored that.
Movie. That's like, not a good movie.

(01:17:04):
Like, I think that's an airplanethough, right?
Where yeah, something like, you know, it's like somebody can
just like watch in the background.
It might, you know, spark your interest a little bit here and
there. Not very scandalous and full of
nudity, right? Yeah.
So last summer I was going to a friends wedding in Calgary and
so I was like cruising through WJets options for like what they
have for movies and stuff and they challengers on there.

(01:17:26):
And I was like, hmm. I love I saw in theatres on
race. I already knew it was like, I'm
pretty sleepy. So I was on challenges.
I watched Challengers on in on this flight there and now it's
just like, OK, so that was pretty funny.
Like I forgot there's that much penis in the movie.
And like, I feel like it's so different now because like, you
know, back like, you know, 20 years ago, you're trying to like

(01:17:48):
avoid movies that have a lot of nudies.
You're trying to go for something that like scandalized,
like, I don't know, like whatever, like, you know,
conservative person on the flight and everything.
But like now you just like watcheveryone on your phone, your
iPad or whatever is like screen you have there.
So on the way back from Calgary to London, I, you know, very
early on I was saying was like one guy, like one guy.
And like, I was like, I saw thatpoor things was offered on this

(01:18:13):
inflate things like should I watch poor things?
And then I look over on his phone there and the first week I
know the first thing he does is he's gets in a seat, puts on a
seat belt. He goes on his phone, buys
travel mode for grinder and justspends it the whole flight
swiping. I was like, alright, I'm cool to
watch poor things during this point.
Rips. Good for you.

(01:18:34):
There's an ideal inflight movieswere trying to, you know, judge
who is going to be around you. No, yeah, for sure.
Whereas I feel like now with like iPads and stuff and phones
like you're kind of used mining own business, which maybe they
weren't a while back. I still, admittedly, I watched
most of Novocaine on someone else's screen on my flight to

(01:18:55):
Tokyo because they have the cat,they have the subtitles on.
And so I'm like not missing anything.
And I'm just sitting here tryingto fall asleep.
And so I just look over and I'm just like watching Novocaine and
someone else's screen. And like, I still do that.
Like no shame. Will absolutely look around and
judge people based on what they're watching but I know like

(01:19:20):
definitely I'm sure that's not the case for most people like
they just wanna sleep or their focus on whatever they're doing
or whatever they brought along yeah so yeah I say letter RIP
like honestly, who gives a shit but I.
Remember reading that when the TV show losses honestly 2004,
2010 like that no airlines were showing the show lost on what
they have going because of planecrash.

(01:19:42):
Like horrible things happen to people, but like I feel like
Gally nowadays, like who really cares anymore?
Because like everyone like causelike you, you may not offer them
moving in flight thing, but likesomeone just going there on
their iPad and watch like, I don't know, like air crash
investigation. Exactly.
Yeah, they can watch over. They want their own device
there. Like people I think are kind of

(01:20:02):
more used to not having to just creep what other people are
watching on their phones. Like hopefully most people are
kind of normal. Like we're not transient stuff
like. Just judging someone and I was
like, oh, we turn that off. You're watching them too
scandalous. You're watching on The Big Bang
Theory or something like. Right, for sure, for sure.
And so I mean kind of leaning into that like a lot of it.

(01:20:23):
I think the way the airlines have approached in flight
entertainment has really evolvedbecause of that.
So they know like First off, a couple of airlines, most notably
American, Alaska and Southwest on their domestic flights don't
offer like seatback entertainment.
They make you pull it up on yourphone or your iPad or your.
Laptop for me, yeah. Yeah, but also a lot of them are

(01:20:48):
starting to partner with streaming services and both like
movies and like music and stuff or like live TV.
So I know Southwest, one of their big like gimmicks is that
you can watch DIRECTV on like your phone on the plane.
And so there was like, I was flying during the World Cup when
Argentina won. And so there was like a whole

(01:21:09):
fight of people like rooting forMessi.
Yeah. Like I was like, people will
never do that. Cuz in the commercials they show
you're flying to Buffalo and everyone's room for the Bills
and it's like people will never do that.
Oh no, people will actually do that.
Cool. Yeah.
Another one is I think it was Delta.

(01:21:30):
I wanna say it was actually giving out free trials of
Paramount Plus so that you coulduse it.
You could watch access Paramounts entire catalog while
you were on the plane. And then if you were like a
frequent flyer member, they would send you a code that would
be like, here you can, in case you started watching something
you liked on the plane, you could like pick it up later,

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like at home or when you got somewhere like on your own
thing. So yeah, I really like that
evolution of it. Um, another thing that I noticed
this is because so many airlinesare tied to countries and like
we have this concept of flag carriers, which is the flagship

(01:22:12):
airline of a country. So you know, you have your Air
Frances, your Lufthansa, your unfortunately for you, Air
Canada, but a lot of times the airlines because they know
they're flying like I'm very international clientele.
A lot of them especially like Air France, Lufthansa, Air
Canada are trying to be a connecting like tissue for their

(01:22:35):
clients. Like apparently Eric Adams will
fly Turkish Airlines everywhere in the world because they give
them free flights, bribery or whatever.
But like a lot of them are trying to do that with like
regular people where it's like, like for example, I went to
visit my friend in London and London, UK, not London ON Yeah.

(01:22:57):
And I flew through Amsterdam on KLM like, And so a lot of these
airlines are starting to spot like regional or they're like
home countries, like cinema industries, France in
particular, because they have a very strong like cinematic
tradition, obviously. And I've noticed like the
international flights movie selection on a lot of these

(01:23:21):
foreign airlines is really good.I've watched a bunch of like
Hong Kong cinema on Eva, which is a Taiwanese carrier.
I also watched, by the way, which is shocking for a
Taiwanese carrier, the most insane like Chinese propaganda
movie. So you know how like in the
early 2000s during like peak of like post Desert Storm and like
Iraq and Afghanistan, we have all these insane like us like

(01:23:45):
Western war movies where it's like our macho men are going in
there and killing terrorists andrescuing like helpless brown
people, right? This movie was literally that.
It was like highlighting, like the PLA's like involvement in
no, oh, what was it called? That's just what it's like.

(01:24:06):
To yeah, yeah. Yeah, what is it called?
It's on my letterbox. Shit, what is it called?
I think it is called. I'm like sandbagging right now.
I can always delete whatever. Yeah, check it down.

(01:24:28):
God, I remember the name for so long and now I just completely
has completely escaped me. Foreign police unit.
Sorry, it's a bunch of like Chinese like SWAT troops going
in, like joining the UN peacekeepers.
And it's this insane jingoistic,like military tickets and like
some country in Africa which is completely war-torn and they're

(01:24:51):
literally doing the white saviorshit, but with like, you know,
Chinese people because that's that was made for.
That too, whereas like, yeah, there's like it's like, you
know, some Chinese like super soldier ghosts, like some
country in generic Africa and was like, oh, like the way that
other nations see Africa as a whole is just like how like the
West sees Africa as a whole passing looks like because like

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if you look at movies as a cultural exchange, like if you
go, you know, if movies are being broadcasted by other
companies, airlines like that's a good way to kind of understand
like what countries have to liketheir perception of the world.
Like every American Airlines going to offer top grand
maverick on their other service and Top Gun Maverick is like a
masterpiece. Was also fully owned propaganda

(01:25:36):
right? Yeah.
Wait, Frank Rail is in Wolf Warrior 2?
What the fuck? Yeah, no.
So I was stunned to see that on like a Taiwanese airline for
obvious reasons. But I think Eva actually has my
favorite, um, like film collection honestly, because it

(01:26:01):
has movies from completely all over the world.
Like it has movies that I was looking on there, like in flight
Wi-Fi, like trying to add thingsto my watch list because it
wasn't that long of a flight that I was on.
And there was a bunch of shit that I was like, they're like,
Oh yeah, this just doesn't have a US distributor.
So I watched Stuntman on CVA Flight, which is like a love

(01:26:26):
letter to Hong Kong cinema. It was alright.
I took notes of a bunch of movies I wanted to watch from
like specifically Taiwanese cinema.
But yeah, like just looking at like what Eva has right now,
what I see is a bunch of American, obviously there's a
ton of Taiwanese cinema, which is, by the way, one of my

(01:26:47):
unbiased because sometimes, but like one of my most underrated
cinema scenes. Yeah, right now.
I'm truly not oblivious to it myself.
Yeah, Netflix actually has a decent variety of Taiwanese
cinema. Honestly I mostly keep Netflix
around for their international functions at this point.

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They truly have some pretty solid like starting points for
like Taiwanese and Indian and you know, all these other
countries like there's cinema scenes.
I also saw a Victory, which is aKorean film and not fight, but
they have a bunch of like they have a Portuguese, some like
Swiss and French and other stuff.

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It's really awesome. Like what when the airlines are
like, because they're these centralized, like groups that
are providing these movies, likethey can really pick and choose
like what they want from basically all over the world
because they're not tied to these distributors.
They're not stuck with like, oh,whatever we were able to get
picked up in Taiwan is what we're limited to.

(01:27:55):
It's like, well, contractor has this weird ass movie from
France. You guys want it.
It's we give it to you for cheapand they're like, sure, we'll
just throw it on and it's almostpadding.
But if you know what you're looking for, you can find some
really cool stuff. It's like international waters
for negotiations for movies, that's.
Really. Yeah.
Like that is such a interesting dynamic that like, yeah, like
it's just like like the fact that make a lot less.

(01:28:17):
You can only wash on a flight now.
Like it's like. Yeah.
Wow, that's like, you know, you negotiate with countries were
negotiating with airlines. Right.
And it's like, you know, it kindof gets into this whole insane
capitalists, like everyone's rent seeking everyone's, um, by
the way, one of the leading inflated entertainment companies

(01:28:39):
just got bought out by private equity.
So have fun with that. Um, but yeah, like just having
all these things, it's a blessing and a curse, you know,
like it means you're not always gonna see things.
Sometimes airlines aren't willing to pay.
Sometimes these distributors aren't willing to pay for like
the new releases, but a lot of times they are.

(01:29:03):
And it's a great way I found to catch up because it's a captive
audience. And so they know that like, it's
a big selling point. And I've seen like airlines are
investing super heavily into in flight entertainment because
what they're competing with is like we mentioned your own
devices. Like everyone has a Switch or a
Steam Deck or a phone or an iPador a laptop that they're always

(01:29:27):
carrying around with them. And So what do we do to get them
to engage with our content so that we can sell them ads and
like Skymall shit? Like, even if like it's a flight
where like you're watching images on your phone because
like the planes Wi-Fi, like you're still getting into the
planes and that company's ecosystem by logging into the

(01:29:48):
Wi-Fi. So you're getting fully involved
with what they have to offer there.
I truly love the idea that like,you know, company like countries
and airlines, like, you know, here is what the national sample
is like what we have to offer rather than be the exact same
shit you're seeing Netflix all the time, like the top rated
thing ever. Yeah, no, I totally agree.

(01:30:09):
It's been, I really think that like without like airplane
movies, I probably wouldn't haveas broad of an appreciation for
like cinema, honestly, because it's to be honest, it's one of
the few times that I feel like I've had enough time to like sit
down and watch a movie uninterrupted.
Like it's pretty hard for me to.And also with like watching

(01:30:33):
things when you're commuting anyway, it's like you don't feel
guilty doing it because you're, you're, you're supposed to be
eating up. So why not watch the movie?
Why not watch them? It's pretty long.
Like I don't for me. Like I personally prefer
watching a couple of short movies rather than one super
long movie on a flight because Ifeel like crunching through more

(01:30:54):
things. And yeah, definitely they did
talk. They the article also talked
about like, how because you're not doing anything else, like
people are willing to take more shots on things.
So, you know, they have all yourC data and like your demographic
data. And one of the airline
executives that they interviewedwas like saying, Oh, yeah, we

(01:31:17):
picked up Barbie because, you know, it's a big blockbuster.
I had the whole Barbin Heimer thing, like, so whatever, you
know, it's like a big selling point is you get on the plane,
it's like, oh, you can watch Barbie and base off the seat
data. The people who watched it, most
were like these, like, mail business travelers.
The movie is like very much lampooning, but like it's I

(01:31:41):
think it really is great. Like I'm not going to say
democratizes truly because like air travel has gotten a lot
cheaper, but I still think like it's still kind of a barrier to
entry based off class. But I think it is exposing a lot
of people to movies they went ofotherwise watched otherwise
seen, which is partially why it's special.
Sometimes it's not so good. Like a lot of people watch the

(01:32:04):
cats apparently on planes rules.What the fuck?
Your name? Where we gonna play, You know,
be like a nine year old looking over and seeing Rebel Wilson as
Jenny. Any dots like ripping open like
he's ripping? Open right?
There's like pursuit, like yeah,disgusting shit, like fucking

(01:32:25):
insane movie. But I yeah, if I saw cast in a
plane, probably open up like theemergency exit.
I hope you like. Your face.
Watch Cats. Yeah, but like, because everyone
heard it was also Morbius was onthe planes and Madame Web and
shit and so like. Your web connects them.
All yeah, her web connects everyone on this plane.

(01:32:47):
They should make like they should have made everyone watch
Madam Web, like just by force. It would have been really funny.
They don't have anymore words. They have, like, the big screens
in the middle where everyone's watching the exact same movie.
Yeah. Like as a communal experience,
like you guys gonna be like a sports event like you mentioned
before, like where I'm just having to watching the same
stream, but like I doubt it's gonna happen again where you

(01:33:10):
have everyone's watching the exact same screen and like and I
imagine like that's not for me. That's not the ideal way to
watch a movie because like when I go to the theatre everyone
watch same screen half the time.Like people are like barely
paying attention anyway, like ontheir phone anyway.
Like in the plane, of course a lot of people gonna be doing
that cause like gotta go to the washroom, have a screaming kid
or something. That it's not the, it's not, I

(01:33:31):
don't think it's, I don't think planes ever with the most ideal
place to watch a movie for the first time.
But considering the circumstance, it's probably a
great way to discover cinema if you have that kind of mind.
Yeah, it really think like if you get on planes a lot and you
take one thing away from this episode, it's that you should
dive into the catalogs instead of just pulling up the
blockbusters and catching up on whatever MCU slap you missed.

(01:33:54):
Because a lot of airlines have some really cool things that are
just waiting for you to explore.And it's good for them because
they quote UN quote pad out their catalogs for cheap.
But it's also good for you because it really broadens your
horizons. And I know it was joking about
watching Tara and plane, but youcan still get the skeleton of
it. Honestly, like plain screens

(01:34:17):
aren't bad nowadays. Like unless you're a really old
plane. Like yeah, I did.
I actually did. I watched it on the plane back
from London. Like London, UK.
Yeah, like, I know I didn't get the full experience.
And I've gone back and rewatchedmovies like on like my nice TV
after like that I watched them things like I did that with

(01:34:38):
Tara, did that with Astrid City.I'm like movies that I knew like
OK, yeah, this is good and I need to like experience it like
properly, but. Have watched more than not watch
it at all in my opinion. Right, exactly.
And it's just time that you're sitting there and so you might
as well take a shot with something you wouldn't otherwise

(01:34:59):
watch. If you're a male business
traveler, take a shot at Barbie or if all you've experienced is
like Western cinema I and you find yourself on a flight to
Japan or Korea or whatever. Like I highly recommend like
exploring that countries like Senator Cinema that the airline
has to offer because you will truly find some hidden gems even

(01:35:22):
beyond what makes it here. It's like that movie Victory I
was talking about is actually a really good movie.
I don't know if it has the US should be or not.
I think it might have done the festival circuit and I don't
know if it got picked up or not.It's this really charming movie
about like a couple of high school girls in a smaller city,

(01:35:43):
like a smaller coastal shipbuilding city in South
Korea, um, who want to be Kpop dancers in the late 90s.
Um, so this is before I Kpop went international.
It was really like, still like avery localized thing, but
because the kids are kind of like screw ups and like

(01:36:05):
slackers, they weren't really allowed to make this club in
their school. But then this new kid arrives
and she's really into cheerleading.
And so they like get her to cover for them to like form this
cheerleading club for their soccer team.
They kind of conned the principal of the school because

(01:36:25):
the principal, there's this great scene where he's on the
phone talking and he's saying like, oh, I don't care about
soccer. You know, it's just good for the
kids to go out there and have fun.
And he's like wearing soccer cleats and has like all this old
soccer paraphernalia from his playing days.
And it's like, you know, showingthat like, no, this guy really
gives a shit about soccer and wants to win.

(01:36:46):
But they kind of foreshadowed that by like, then the girls are
like, no, we really need like, if we cheer, then it makes the
soccer players play it better and the win more games.
And then it becomes this like they recruit a bunch of like
misfit, very like ensemble cast of like people to join their

(01:37:06):
club. And it's this really cute,
charming movie as you watch likethe two original girls who think
they're above like the corny, lame cringe cheerleading, like
buy in and like find like the sisterhood and like so it seems
like make friends. It's kind of a light, nice
movie, perfect washing up plane.Yeah, and it's like sense of

(01:37:27):
discovery as well. I just talking like I looked it
up on looking up letterbox. Saw your review First off.
I also saw that playing on playing on tubing in Canada.
Nice. Yeah, but The thing is like,
it's so hard. It's so easy for movies to to
slip into like a streaming nothingness as a if you're on
two wheels, a trillion options movies to watch, you go Netflix

(01:37:49):
is a trillion option movies to watch.
But if you're on a flight, there's limited options, right,
more limited options. So you have to kind of like, you
know, someone curated that and the curation is so nice and
useful to actually decide to actually watch something.
Right. Yeah, for sure.
And I mean there are going to be, there is going to be
stinkers like there's yeah, yeah, there's always this.

(01:38:09):
But I really think, especially when it comes to their national
things that they're like, they do seem to let care and they put
want to put their best foot forward because pride.
Yeah. Well, it's cultural pride.
It's national pride. And they really do.
This is like especially for like, I'm thinking Air France,
I'm thinking calm, I'm thinking Eva and Anna.

(01:38:31):
Like these, like big national airlines are like, for a lot of
them, this is their connection to like the world, like global
culture. That makes sense, Um, because a
lot of them will offer cheap. Well, they will undercut like
American Airlines, like it was cheaper for us to fly like Eva
versus United, for example. Um, and so, yeah, I've basically

(01:38:56):
like, I, I know travel is very like class gated thing.
Um, but even if you're flying domestically, like travel opens
your horizons to so many things and in that it opens you up to a
new world of cinema. Yeah, like a also, so like, you
know, Delta Airlines, America's already won the cultural wars

(01:39:16):
overall internationally. So like, what do they have to
prove right? That's why they can just put
Paramount Plus on there and be like fuck you.
Good enough for us. Gonna watch the new season of
Dexter? Whether you like it or.
Not yeah, pretty much actually Delta had a better selection
than United, I remember. But yeah, I think Delta is sort
of a bad example because I thinkthey do have put a little more

(01:39:38):
thought in. They have some more like
international connected things based off their destinations.
But yeah, now it is still like when you got on there.
They're not highlighting their international selections.
There are no saying fuck you. Watch the new season of Dexter.
Actually, the new season of Dexter is actually really.
Good. Is it really?
You haven't seen it yet? Yeah, let me see if I can pull

(01:40:04):
up Deltas like inflight entertainment like as we speak
because I had like Eva and like,and Oh yeah, I see Delta is
doing like a Hispanic heritage month right now or has their
collection like set up. So that's pretty cool.
They have a pretty decent selection of Latin American

(01:40:25):
Spanish cinema and also like Latin Latino American if that
makes sense. Like they have like Coco and
Encanto, sure, but they also have like Lamizana Nuna and they
have the Selena biopic and colours of the mountain, not
Suprema some they do have some pretty cool stuff highlighted.

(01:40:46):
So yeah, it's, it's always, it'san exciting thing and something
that I always am excited when I get on.
The other thing I'll say is backto like when I was talking about
how they are evolving their offering is they're really
trying to meet people where you are.
So, you know, there's this wholething of like, airline

(01:41:08):
headphones always suck because they have a stupid connector and
they're starting out like Bluetooth support because
everyone has Air pods or whatever.
Yeah. Or like you can plug your own
headphones in, which is good, Less waste and your headphones
are always better than what theyhave.
Um, but yeah, some of the stuff like even in economy they're

(01:41:31):
doing bigger, like almost laptopor iPad that these size screens
in business class and 1st class,like some of them are full on
TV. Like I know some airline, it's
probably like one in the Middle Eastern airlines is in something
like 40 inch screens or something.
Wow. Yeah, so there are at least

(01:41:52):
there's some of their game. We're pretty far removed.
Like if you have a phone in a really long time, we're really
far removed from the days of like the fuzzy ass, like really
crummy, like resistive touch screens.
And like you can actually watch a movie and appreciate it.
Now you're not like, squinting, trying to figure out who's what,
like you can see like. You see the person gonna close

(01:42:15):
the window, so you can not get the clear.
Yeah exactly. It's.
Really like I think like airplane mode still sucks, but
airplane movies are really come a long way to be honest.
Yeah, like it's just like, it's so fascinating to go, you know,
back to where we were with airplane where like, you know,

(01:42:35):
it is like just the one screen you have in a plane.
And it's like such like a Marvelback in the day where it's like,
it's so hard, like actually sit down and watch a movie.
And a lot of movies that would play, like on an airplane would
be ones that, you know, we're intheatres but like they have not
coming home video yet. So like, this is the one we
gonna watch on like before. Like, you know, some of your
friends are like school or work or something.

(01:42:55):
Have seen 2/3 of premium Rush that way because it was like one
of the last like flights on United on like some ancient 767
for about like redone. And it was the big screens in
the middle of the aisles. And it was like they announce it
like when they did their safety briefing.
Like, alright, you have to watchthe safety video.
And then here the food options are steak or fish and the movie,

(01:43:21):
yeah. The movie today is Premium Rush.
Yeah, so I've seen part of Premium Rush because I also fell
asleep. And there's no rewinding when
it's communal. So you fall asleep, you just
have no idea what happened for half the movie.
I think the big thing too is like the fact that the times
went cut like the time it takes for a movie to be in theatres to

(01:43:43):
home video is so short now. Like they overlap like Superman
theatre but you can still see management for rent for like a
few weeks now. So airplanes kind of fills 1
rear niche where you could watcha movie where it's not quite on
home because they're used to take months for movies come on
home video. Yeah, cause actually one movies

(01:44:04):
to actually play for longer in theatres.
But with the demand streaming and like all these options at
home, like they wanna keep the audience's attention.
Like you hear us in theatres gonna hear about home.
Because like otherwise, you're gonna forget about it again.
Right. Yeah.
And like, Sinners wasn't an anomaly because they didn't even
have it on my flights. Like because it was still doing
its theatrical run. That one kind of took off like

(01:44:27):
so insanely. I don't think anyone expected it
to be a smash of ahead as it was.
But like, no, like that one is like one of the last true like
old school blockbusters as far as like how it ended up getting
released with like the IMAX and the extended theatrical run that
they kept extending before it came to streaming.
I think it's now finally on likeHBO or something.

(01:44:48):
Yeah, I've seen people like. Shitty photos on Twitter about.
It but yeah I think it's like I see it on deltas offering now I
think um but yeah like other other than that like I watched
the new Captain America sorry I caught up on the city MCU slop
ohe my flight I yeah. Brave New World has a Red Hulk

(01:45:14):
in it. It has the red, Honestly, that
movie did was this movie. We're not talking about this
movie. We're not talking about the MCU,
although I would unpack the MCU with you at some point.
That movie got done so dirty by its marketing to be honest.
Because they had nothing to go on the 1st house.
Like it was a red Hulk at the end.
Come see it please. Yeah.

(01:45:35):
But yeah, like, so I did catch up on that and there were a
bunch of other blockbusters, like Novocaine was pretty
heavily advertised on TV. I only know what gets advertised
on TV because I watch sports like football.
Like I think Novocaine was one another one that was ballerina.

(01:45:58):
I think it's on there now. Friendship.
I don't know if that one really counts as a blockbuster, but
it's at least a relatively new movie.
The live action Lilo and Stitch,which discussed me, um, you
know, so there there are they'restill doing that to an extent.
It's just obviously with everyone's streaming and

(01:46:20):
everyone pushing streamlined so hard, it's just less.
We're trying to capture your attention.
For sure. Yeah, it just I'm I'm yeah, I
don't know this like I feel likewith like yeah, I feel extreme
is such an interesting thing that I feel like the airlines

(01:46:41):
had to compete with it in some way, like.
They right because. Selection they had to do
something to like kind of like get your get you into their
ecosystem, you into their Wi-Fi you so you can get another
Skywalker on their inflight videos guns like you know, their
food menu options. Yeah, for sure.
Well, they've adapted because I don't fly that often, so I'm not
really seeing a lot of it changeover time, but it's so different

(01:47:03):
than it was back 20 years ago where I don't know.
Yeah, no, I mean like streaming and having everyone having
streaming on their devices that you can just download with the
right plan, like, oh, I'm just gonna save an entire season of
Dexter's right to watch on the plane.

(01:47:25):
So now they have to do somethingto differentiate themselves to
compete with that because for literally like 100, well, not
100 years for entertainment, butfor like 50 years, they were the
only game in town. So if you either you brought a
book or you brought like one of those city DVD players, right?
Or like a deck of playing cards or you just watch whatever they

(01:47:47):
had. And so they could kind of just
stick whatever in front of you and be like, what are you gonna
do not watch premium rush? But.
Well, you could. Movies fine, by the way.
Gonna play it too and listen to nothing and read nothing, yeah.
That's not me, but. Shouldn't be anyone that's yeah,
too much time with your own thoughts.
Yeah, for sure. But I think it really has meant

(01:48:11):
that there has been a drastic increase in quality in your
average airplane movie, even from when I was a kid.
Like there was a lot of like, just bullshit that you would
have to watch. Probably like the idea of an
airplane movie in general isn't really much of A concern anymore
because it's just a movie now. Yeah, definitely.
I mean there are some movies like I would say like, well

(01:48:33):
obviously the bullet train was when he came up with training.
What else would be good at Sonicthe Hedgehogs?
The three Sonic movies are greatairplane movies.
Like I see blockbuster they don't really give a shit about,
but like could be kind of fun. Just like you know, know what
your nephew is up to like. Yeah, Minecraft I watched.
I swear to God I watched a kid watch Minecraft like two or

(01:48:55):
three times on the fly. Oh my gosh.
Most recent and by the way, thank God we have our own
screens that the whole plane wasn't subjected to the
Minecraft sing along. You don't have to watch the
worst things ever because like you can just wash over you want
now. So it's probably less
infuriating because like, probably there's nothing worse
than being on a long flight thatshitty with bad people around

(01:49:17):
you and then having to watch theshittiest fucking movie at the
same time eating bad fish and stuff.
Like, yeah, I'm eating bad fish,I'm watching Australia and I'm
dealing with a screaming child. Like, that sounds like my idea
of hell. I think you brought up Secret
Life of Walter Mitty is currently on Delta, and you

(01:49:38):
brought that up as a great airplane movie.
Yeah, that's one point. Yeah, you know, nice like you
know, 50 long hour, 40 minute long just movie boat, just some
guy, some decent visuals like you know, yeah it.
Might be all looks good enough. It might be empowering your aunt
if you want to show it to her orsomething like that, but it's
gonna be like, you know, rock your world.
But it's just good enough. Yeah, I think I watched Life of

(01:50:02):
Pi in a plane, and this might bea hot take, but that was a
pretty solid like airplane movie.
For the best way to get the visuals.
But yeah, it's it's material wise makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, I mean, I know we're
going long and I want to be mindful of your time, but the

(01:50:22):
last thing I did wanna bring up.Is was like 9/10 you go to
airplane like 9/10, The plot that we stopped for like 40
minutes. Talk about airplane movies back.
To the flood eventually the lastthing is based self like
explosions and that sort of thing is the airplane safety
movies are also because like we said, they're competing with so

(01:50:44):
many ways to get your attention and there's still so many more
first time Flyers that they needsomething to like grab you.
And so the new thing is like actually, I don't think it's
that new, but like a relatively new thing I want to say or they
really stepped it up, I should say is like airplane safety
video gimmicks. I know I'm going to get like

(01:51:04):
someone's gonna drop an angry letter in your mailbox saying
well, we've done airplane safetyvideo game.
Makes sense. The 70s from my recollection, I
think they've stepped up their game.
So ones that I collected were deltas doing their hundred year
anniversary. So theirs is like historical
like uniform theme. They have like people giving

(01:51:24):
their spiel, but you can you're watching to see like how the
uniform changes and they're alsolike changing the costuming and
stuff for everyone else to be like decades themes.
Eva is like a weird James Bond knockoff.
That's cool. Um, the guy like, I think I can
probably find it on YouTube and you can put it in the notes
because you kind of have to see it to believe it where they have

(01:51:48):
this like guy who's like, alright, listen up.
This is your mission. And this is like blah, blah,
blah. This is there is X number of
exits on this plane, whatever and is Pokémon theme.
So there's like creepy CGI like Detective Pikachu asked Pokémon
floating around like the plane and doing all the shit.

(01:52:11):
Yeah, it's they're trying to like because it's the first time
that they've had competition foryour attention and so they need
to change something. And also airlines in general
heads are having so much more competition were in.
I know it doesn't feel this way,but I actually really do think
we're in like a second golden age of air travel right now

(01:52:33):
because it's so democratized. And like the fact that you can
get a flight from the East Coastof North America to Europe for
like 500 bucks round trip nowadays opens up so many
possibilities to see the world for so many more people.
And also there is an arms race in the front of the plane.

(01:52:55):
So if you've ever are ever fortunate enough to be in the
front like it is insane. Like they have full beds with
like turn down service and like 40 inch 4K TV's and, and they,
they'll serve you caviar and champagne and shit.
And so it's like if you've ever wanted to know what air travel
at like the 60s was like you just fly first class.

(01:53:18):
Nowadays it's pretty similar. I'm pretty sure it's actually
probably better because no one'ssmoking.
God. Yeah.
So from that like perspective, like that's still exists, you
got to pay, you're paying for itor you like have like a shit ton
of frequent flyer miles sorted for it.

(01:53:38):
But the way it's opened up so many more possibilities means
that it's you're opening more and more like options for people
that brought in their horizons culturally, both literally,
physically, but also like when it comes to stuff like cinema
and music and TV. So I think it is beautiful.

(01:53:58):
I think in general, I'm also guilty of this because flying
does suck immediately. But I think or maybe a little
cynical on maybe being a little cynical on how flying is now
because like, yeah, the seats are small and uncomfortable,
but, you know, at least more people are getting to travel.

(01:54:20):
And that's that's beautiful thing in my eyes.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we can finish up the
movie now. Yeah.
Cause I gave my I gave my spiel.Thank.
You so much for that yeah. No seriously, you know you want
to talk about airplane movies. We talk movies and airplanes
it's awesome Yeah. No, it's great One last thing to
talk inflate movies. One of my favorite facts would

(01:54:41):
inflate movie is that Hitomi's hockey Parco Rosso started off
as a favorite Japanese airline. It was, but they commissioned
him like, hey, can you do a little short film for us for an
inflight movie like, you know, training little video or like
not training video like an inflight movie just like, you
know, like welcome to the airline.
And so we did that and he was like, I like this premise to

(01:55:02):
expand to a full feature film. So so Porco Rosso was started
off as and it's life as an inflight movie.
And then it became like, we're gonna make a really cool movie.
But but fascism. Means like, he's so cool, he's
so real for that. He's the best.
Yeah, it was Dale. I just checked.
So, OK. Yeah, which is the flag carrier

(01:55:24):
of Japan, so that makes sense. OK, cool.
Yeah, yeah. Apparently that actually was
released on the planes before itwas released in theatres.
That's pretty. Cool.
They should like, yeah, he's like, I don't know, like the
next, like Paul Thomas Anderson movie on the Flight instead of,
you know. Yeah.
Damn, I wish we knew about that.We could have done this movie as

(01:55:44):
though we in. Yeah.
Oh, that's so cute. OK, I'm reading about it because
I've never actually seen this one, so yeah, cool.
This one's sick as hell. This is going on the watch list.
Yeah, yeah. It's so good.
It's great. Love it.
Yeah, it's, well, I, it's one ofthe ones I've seen.

(01:56:06):
I always like Japanese voice first.
Doesn't Japanese voice as well as done the English dub which
has Michael Keaton as a Parker Rosso?
Oht nice. Guys name is.
And then the French, that was Jean Renault as the lead.
He's a lot of fun too. Whoa.
Yeah. Great movie, really good.
Absolutely recommend checking itout.
Yeah, I always love. As an aside, you can probably

(01:56:26):
get this out. I do love the like English dubs
of deeply movies because like I think like deeply explicitly
over like sees a lot of the dubslike and so they make sure that
it's its own thing. And like I think me Izaki
himself has said that like yeah,watch the dub.

(01:56:48):
I want you to experience it in your native language so that you
experience the both the dialoguewith the like cinema.
It's like, yeah, you know, like if you should get over reading
subtitles. But also I watched the
background like look how beautifully animated it is.
So with that quote there, you said about like you should watch

(01:57:10):
one language you want. I've never been fond of source
on it. OK, so I'm not using it.
Anyway, this is not really that relevant.
But no, I love talking about stuff.
I find dumb stuff so fascinatingbecause he's also like, I think
the studio pays debt to the dubsand stuff but he does not.
Overall, he's not really care about it, but.
That makes sense. Is 1 funny story worth for
Hausman Castle? Like once he found out Lauren

(01:57:32):
Bacall was going to be voicing the lead in the movie, he like
specifically flew over to sit beside her for the premier in
North America. Ah that's cute.
Pretty late in the process. I'm not sure you actually
follows. He's actually very involved with
the the dub casting. Because he's a busy man.
I don't. I can't imagine he would be.
But. Don't think he really, but also

(01:57:54):
like he, you know, I feel a lot of people think English is most
important language, but like there's so many other countries
in the world that like, why would you really care that much
about his one language? It's kind of like when like in
Melga Solid when David Hager wasreplaced with Kiefer Sutherland,
everyone so upset in the West but sometimes like to, you know,

(01:58:14):
to to heal Kojima. Like like Dave here is just some
guy dubbing in a different language.
Like it's not the character to them.
Yeah, absolutely. I think it's, I think they do
probably, they probably have like, because they're such a big
like, um, studio for like globaldistribution.
I would bet they have like a double office where they work

(01:58:34):
with local distributors to produce the dubs.
I cannot imagine that he does that personally.
Because there wasn't one disastrous a dub for Nasco, The
Valley of the Wind that the thatwasn't The Weinstein Company did
where they cut down it's called Warriors of the Wind.
Oh yes, half an hour shorter. He hated it so much that like,

(01:58:57):
the movie didn't get true distribution for a while there
and then. Like, was it Princess Mononoke?
Where I think Prince Manoka thatWeinstein had distribution, he
wanna make some cuts from the movie and then Miyazaki sent
Harvey Weinstein, you Catana threatening him to do no cuts to
the movie or else like kill you.Went through it man.

(01:59:20):
David, so fucking good. Yeah, what a what a fucking save
a lot of people out of pain, man, alright.
All right. Well, we probably wrap around
back to airplane. We should wrap around back to
airplane. Fun tangent.
I can't imagine that makes the final cut.
We'll see. Yeah.
I'll see what the timing works out for it.
Yeah. We're two hours in, so yeah.

(01:59:44):
Let's see, I'll see it. This is gonna be the longest
episode for sure. So yeah.
Alright, so back to the where are we?
So we're back to the little rewinding.
So they're ready to land the plane finally.
So Leslie Nielsen comes in and for the he says for the first of
three times, just want to say good luck.
We're all counting on you. Turn points out the start of it
in the middle, which land playing right immediately when

(02:00:06):
they actually probably land a plane.
Yeah, like a complete robot eachtime.
It's so funny. It's great.
It's it's awesome. It's my favorite line delivery
from him. Like even more so than the like,
Don't call me Shirley, which is the classic mind, but like just
the deadpan of they're like Ted and Elaine are celebrating in
the cockpit like we did it and then he just pops it interrupts

(02:00:27):
the celebration. It's great.
I love it. So, yeah, so he's trying on the
plane. We get that great gift of Robert
Hayes that he's like sweating and everything to and gifts a
lot and gift form. So the plane lands, loses its
wheels, comes to a very sparkly stop in the ground.
Great model work. Everyone is happy, of course.

(02:00:47):
So like Kramer congratulates TedStriker on the lousy landing
once a 5 and drink and shake hishand, which is dialogue right
from Zero Hour. So everyone's hopping off the
plane on the inflatable slide, you know, the flight attendant
tells. I'm like, thanks for flying
Transamerica. Yeah, and apparently Trans
American was a real airline, butthey flew cargo, not a

(02:01:11):
commercial flight, so they were able to get away with using as a
name. Interesting, because it's what
makes sense is like a spoof of like a combo TWA and Pan Am
because that's the biggest airlines at the time.
But yeah, that's really yeah, yeah.
And so yeah, Ted and Lane the kiss on the runway, the music
begins to swell. She respects him.
Finally he's getting back to hisconference.

(02:01:33):
Finally they look back at the plane auto the auto pilot
salutes them and take the plane starts taking off in the plane,
the very busy and a lady inflatable pops up beside him.
He they just winks at the cameraand it says the end.
Yeah, there's a plane ticket away.

(02:01:54):
So good. It's it might be I don't know if
it's one of my if it's my favorite movie of all time.
It's not unfortunately in my top.
I think it's like 5. It's not barely out of my top
four. I should rotate it back in
though. It's especially in honor of this
episode. I can rotate something out for a
bit but yeah, it's fucking fantastic.

(02:02:15):
It is just a brilliant movie. I think like as far as last for
minute go, it is up there with like any other movie ever made.
It's just so quick, the humor sofast and like it's like blinking
and miss humor. There's so many great visual
gags, like it's wonderful and like it wasn't a media hit.
People audiences loved it right away and so premiered in a

(02:02:36):
Toronto and Buffalo in the same day.
Apparently Toronto audiences loved it more than the Buffalo
audiences. Well, because apparently you
guys love your plane Crashes. Apparently, yeah.
Yeah, critics are wrong. Critics were warm about the
movie, but not as warm as they are now about it.
They they really enjoyed it and they like the fact they deflate

(02:02:57):
the self serious disaster genre,which was like very tired at
this point, Roger Ebert wrote isrevealed like airplane is
sophomoric, obvious, predictable, corny and quite
often very funny. And the reason it's funny is
frequently because it's sophomore, predictable, corny,
etcetera. Yeah, no, I actually completely
agree with you, but it's one of the greatest.
I don't necessarily agree with everything he's ever said, but

(02:03:18):
that like pretty much nails it. Like because it's willing and
able to play like a lot of the predictable that corny, the
stupid tropes straight. Like it means that the more
surreal things put into contrastlike how not out of place this
is and the like normal boilerplate disaster movie stuff

(02:03:41):
is like not out of place with just insane bullshit around it.
So it's like, look how stupid this genre is.
Yeah, it's, it's great. And like, because and because of
Airplane, it really jumps out ofthe spoof genre yet again.
Leslie Nielsen's career was changed forever and he spent the
rest of his career being comedies.

(02:04:02):
Like I don't think he really didany dramas really afterwards.
And as you mentioned before, Nielsen worked with Zucker,
Abrams and Zucker again for the TV show Police Squad, which
lasted 6 episodes. But then they got the big screen
adaptation, which is Naked Gun, which is a huge success and got
2 sequels. And we got a new one with Liam
Neeson this summer. Which Liam Neeson's like the

(02:04:24):
perfect successor to as the Nielsen, in my opinion, yeah.
He's so funny, very similar kindof serious reputation thanks to
all the taken movies. Like he's serious guy, like he
asked me to chops and he very, very good.
The comic deliveries. Yeah and yeah.
So Zucker, Abrams and Zucker, they also would do other spooky

(02:04:46):
music, top secret. They'd Hotshots and hot shots
part which are both really fun. Um, Spooner kind of spotted
around for the 90s for a little bit.
You get things like a, you know,I feel like some Meadow movies,
like Scream kind of took some ofits lunch too, but we gotta.
Then we get Scary Movie, which, you know, we're a success for a

(02:05:06):
bit, but we can really blame Spoons dying on Jason came in,
Aaron Seltzer. They're the ones that did stuff
like epic movie, date moving, superhero movie, meet the
Spartans, that kind of shit. I would like some of the worst
movies ever made. Total fucking slap.
Like the equivalent of movie shovelware, really.
Yeah, because what they did was they would just like they would

(02:05:27):
watch the trailer for a movie that came like a year before it,
and they would make all the jokes just from the trailer for
their spoofing. And by the time the movie comes
out, it's been like, well, we moved out for a long time with
these jokes. Are so tired of Mad magazine
cracking the same jokes like a year ago, like very ran into the
ground. So like spoons are pretty much
die for a while and then we talked about a fair amount
before like you know, couldn't MCU people.

(02:05:49):
We haven't truly but like I'm not sure if it can with like the
way the Internet kind of works things too fast now it just not
sure it could happen. And also I think a lot of those
like those boomies died. I kind of alluded to it earlier,
but like I really think like YouTube poops stuff like honest
trailers or like that sort of thing of really eating their
lunch. Like you mentioned, all those

(02:06:09):
are just based off of trailers while like on trailer just does
the same shit but better and tighter.
Exactly. Yeah.
So like OK. Or they did.
I don't know if they're still making anymore, but sure.
Yeah. Like, that's something that like
2 guys could do in a week, bang out a script in a week and hop

(02:06:30):
on a mic and record it. And so now it's like, what's the
point of these spoof movies? Because also nowadays with tick
tokers, like they're doing wholeskits and stuff, like Tik Tokers
and Youtubers are doing these basically sketch comedy like
troops in the vein of like Key and Peele.
And why this kids you know? They they hire like I'm blanking
on name right now but she's Canadian.

(02:06:50):
She got just got hired to SNL aslike a feature cast member
because of her her TikTok sketchcomedy.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I I know who you're talking
about. I don't remember her name
either, but yeah, like it's Jesus Christ.
I just looked at the cast of this superhero movie.
This has fucking Lesley Nielsen in it and was produced by one of

(02:07:12):
the suckers. OHT sucks so much.
That we have. Awful.
Yeah, no, like it's probably great.
Like I think the theme is sort of like democratization for
today's episode. It was like where this means
that the spoof movie is kind of dead because anyone who has ever

(02:07:34):
like Mystery Science Theatre 3000, like anyone can do that
nowadays. Yeah.
Where they like kinda just film themselves making fun of movies.
I kind of hate to say it, but a lot of this form kind of started
with or took off. I should say, not started, but
took off with like nostalgia critic and general awesome.
And they have their problems andI know they haven't really

(02:07:56):
evolved there like craft since they started, but you really do
give them credit for spawning like the new generation of like
Internet quote UN quote critics and also Internet like spoofers.
Like they also did like 3 secondmovies which was like kind of.
Like that was so funny. Yeah, the fucking Titanic one is
still like that sink splash. It's just like Beyoncé song.

(02:08:20):
Yeah, is like comedic masterpiece.
Yeah, he actually did have some mayors early on, but yeah, what?
Like I think that that sort of thing taking off really killed
the parody genre because you don't need fucking superhero
movie costs $35,000,000 to make.Like Doug Walker did that with

(02:08:44):
100 bucks in a cave with a box of scraps, right?
Like, you know, we don't need this sort of like what is the
point of blowing $35 million on Drake Bell and Leslie Nielsen
and Kevin Hart to like do this? Make literally something just as
shitty as what 5 dudes in Chicago are making and like

(02:09:06):
their garage so. And also there's like fucking
superhero movies so bad that yeseven the worst since Alger
critic bits like quote UN quote movies are better than it.
But I was like, maybe like that,Like they, they don't even try
to hire like good talent for it.Like there's not the intention.

(02:09:26):
It's just like, I don't know, the intentional work that was
something like legit some of theworst was ever made.
Like they are just so bad. Like.
And and there are like, so they're so cynical.
Yeah. Like I know we kind of.
Don't love the movies they're watching, and they're not even
that big fans of comedy in general.
Right where? It just punching down but like.

(02:09:48):
Airplane, yeah, it's punching down.
Whereas superhero movie came outeight.
This is literally right before Ironman came out.
Like this could not have been a worse time spoof.
Movie. Absolutely not.
Yeah, because this was the era of same year.
Yeah, Oh my God, yeah. And then fucking this came out
right before those dead and you're like punching down on

(02:10:10):
what, Fox, X-Men and Fantastic Four and like, what maybe the
rainy Spiderman movies? Like those are the best of the
movies, superhero movies that came out recently.
And so like, that's punching down versus airplane is like
very much taking advantage of this behemoth of a genre.
Yeah. So like, yeah, we got our

(02:10:33):
thoughts and spoonies. What are your final thoughts on
airplane? OHS.
I mean, I loved it. It's like I said, it's one of my
favorite movies of all time. I think like it along with like
The Simpsons really shaped a lotof my like, sense of humor truly
because of like that sort of deadpan, almost absurdist like

(02:10:54):
comedy, like being like a reallybig fan of that.
Um, and yeah, just this isn't like, I'm not gonna sit here and
say that it's a cinematic masterpiece because like, as far
as like the actual form and production goes, we're not doing
anything groundbreaking here. Like, it's not like, like the

(02:11:16):
most that the cinematography is is in service of jokes.
Like, it's got a ton of visual gags.
It's got a ton of it's well shot.
It's shot to the point where it doesn't get in the way of the
comedy. Yeah, right.
It's jokes first, which is what,yeah, which I think is the thing

(02:11:37):
we're special. Airplane is it's it's jokes
first. Like they took a very like they
took zero hour this outlaw jokes.
So we're even trying to craft ina brilliant plots.
They had like a good enough plotand they just added 1,000,000
jokes that possibly cut to it. Yeah.
And I think it's really a job well done.

(02:11:57):
Like what I really appreciate that they had a job and they set
out that they set out to do and they nailed it and they created
as good of a comedy as they could have gotten.
So I really respect that. Yeah, Airplane for me is just
like it is a classic comedy for me.
I absolutely love it. Like I always have fun going

(02:12:19):
back to it as a blast. Going back to this time is blast
going back to just write down some notes for it yeah.
So if you have not charged airplane, um, insane, sorry,
episode of a podcast that's longer than airplane.
So go back and watch Airplane. Yeah.
So. Yeah, that's also the best part

(02:12:40):
is it's a tight 90. It's not even 90 minutes.
It's like an hour 20. Yeah, it's a good short comedy.
We need more of those. And The thing is like, it goes
by fast, but it also like it doesn't overstay its welcome,
but it also doesn't feel like overly short either.
So yeah, like. You're you're getting the good

(02:13:01):
bang for your buck. Yeah, yeah, so very Simpsons
asking that way. But you don't realize Simpsons
episodes are only 22 minutes. Or whatever.
So exactly. Yeah.
Anna, thank you so much for joining me.
Yeah, thanks for having me on. This is so much fun.
Yeah, Thank you. Bring us all this research with
you. That was a really fascinating

(02:13:21):
discussion about airplane moviesin general.
Yeah, it's great. If you want more of my hyper
fixations, you can follow me on Instagram or Letterboxed.
And I, I, yeah, send me those. Either send me your handles or
send me your social media and I'll put them in the episode
links. Yeah, that would be probably the

(02:13:45):
best plug. I don't have cool plugs as of
recording. Caleb's episode came out today,
and I don't have his cool thingsto plug as him, but that's OK.
Go watch, listen to his stuff. How about that?
Yeah, that's my plug. Yeah, so follow me on social
media at The Wizard on Twitter, Blue Sky and Letterbox.

(02:14:07):
Well, at this point I've alreadybeen active and returned from
Stiff now, so I'll have a lot ofthoughts on Tim's a festival
that post on social media and I'll probably be doing a TIF
episode at some point. Recap episode in some format.
Might have a guest on, I'm not sure about that yet.
No promises yet. Will try and figure that was go
along, give movie plot follow onTwitter and Blue Sky.

(02:14:28):
Please also send more emails in the mail bag at
movieplotmailbag@gmail.com. Um, and next week I'm gonna be
watching a movie I've never actually seen before, and I
don't think most people have seen it all or even heard of.
So I'm being exposed to a film called Ultramarines, a Warhammer
40,000 movie. But my friend Brayden, I know
Dick Albert Warhammer, he knows a ton about it.

(02:14:49):
So and if you anything Warhammerno something.
I've never heard of this movie in my life.
So we picked this or he picked this because Terence Stamp is in
it. He's the lead voice and he just
passed away. Wow, OK.
Yeah, so some animated Warhammerthing and like, yeah, just
Warhammer this thing that is like, I just know nothing about

(02:15:10):
it. So be fascinating to see someone
kind of just tell me what like, you know, a space Marine is
versus like an orc or something.Yeah, you know, like the basics.
And I know that people spend a lot of money on it, so.
Yep. A lot of money.
Yeah, yeah. Enjoy that?
I'm excited about because I'm excited watching.

(02:15:31):
We've never seen before this podcast and take scrupulous
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