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Hello and welcome to Movie Pod, the podcast 1 Movies.
Yeah. So this is an episode this we
have bonus episode as well as a mailbag episode where I was
gonna talk with the future moviepod because movie pose can be
changing. Movie posing node is going to be
gone, but movie Paul is going tocontinue on.
So I need a bit of a niche to talk about movies with because
my check right now is just too general.
I kinda wanna find something a bit more narrow to focus on
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something stand out a little bitmore focus, a little bit niche
of a topic that really interestsme.
But yeah, we'll be pausing to become a podcast.
But reclaimed cinema. So Reclaim movies basically are
movies that and pop culture. One group of people has come to
this. It's like, hey, this movie is
actually good or this movie actually represents us.
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I think some great examples are like a lot of cult movies.
So you know, something like the thing, which I've already
covered before with that Johnny was The thing is really everyone
revival when it came out, no oneliked it.
And then when we got home released, people reclaimed the
thing as like this is actually one of the best.
There's like a great sci-fi horror masterpiece.
So cult movies will follow in will fall into the realm of
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movie pause new format. Two another thing too.
I finally interesting movies to is like movies like the matrix.
When it came out, you know, critically claimed every
electric came out, but when the directors came out as
transgender, that became people started using the matrix as a
queer text. So I find that to be fascinated
the fact that in movies perceptions completely change
over time. For example, too.
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I want to talk about as well as something diehard how die hard
started off as a critically claimed just action blockbuster
and recent times. Now we have to every Christmas
we have to talk about is die hard a Christmas movie.
So Diehard has been reclaimed the Christmas movie, The Major
has been reclaimed as a queer movie Thing reclaimed as being
just a good movie. So initially I was thinking
like, OK, like if I can think oflike 50 movies, that should be
good enough for me to get by fora little bit.
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And I would just sat down on my phone.
I initially jotted down 150 movies, like literally 150
movies. I would actually fit with this
podcast format every episode I had already scheduled previously
for October. They all fit within the format
of movies that have been people saying like, hey, like this
movie is actually good. This horrible mean something to
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me. This movie was the reception at
the time was completely different than what it is now.
And the changing receptions is what if I don't really, really
interesting because whitlow movies overall, I think I
mentioned before where movies are really easy to come back.
I'm going to go back to the example of the thing again,
where the thing exists exactly as it is back in 1982, as it is
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now. There's no directors cut, but
people have looked at this movienominated for Razzies people
glasses movie critically didn't make any money at all.
And now you talk about the thingas if it's like one of the
greatest films all time, which in my opinion it is.
And I think that's really, really fascinating how society
just perceptions change certain groups like gravity towards a
movie and say, Hey, this movie means something to me.
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It could simply be something as simple as like this movie is as
rad as hell. The thing.
I also find it fast in that movies like like, you know, Star
Wars prequel trilogy, how peoplelike hated those moves in they
came out, but the kids who grew up watching them, they like them
as well as people are able to point a lot of parallels between
what George Lucas was saying about governments and what's
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going on in our governments. And it's fascinating topic when
we weren't full podcast because movies are because people come
out movies A million ways. And what I've loved so much for
the show is just having these discussions with people movies.
And I think it's it's so cool that people can come with the
exact same movie at different point in time and come up with
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completely different viewpoint of what the movie is like.
And I love it. I love the I love coming to
movie that's like, you know, things that the worst people
should ever because it got bad reviews, made no money like
that. And like, oh fuck, this one is
actually really, really good. Like someday you'll get an
episode of me talking about blonde and ours movie like
raving about it. And yeah.
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And if you were gonna rightfullyprobably say hey, like you're an
insane person or thing is a great movie.
But also like, hey, like in my mind, this is not much different
than what how people look at Twin Peaks fire walk mean and in
the 1990s. And again, please walk me
another great example too of like a movie that everyone
haven't came out. Some Japanese critics enjoyed it
because they thought the depiction of sexual assault was
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really powerful and striking. And now people, that's just kind
of the general opinion of movie is that this is a movie that
actually like Twin Peaks, fire walk with me.
Shirley's performance as Laura Palmer is like one of the great
like psychological horror performances because it is a
movie that is just so profoundlyunique in how it presents the
inner torment of a woman in crisis.
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And that's something that's completely reception was like my
perception of the movie movie inwhen I first saw it was like, I
hate this movie. And I was like, oh, like this
movie has something a lot deeper, more meaningful to say
that ever gave it credit for it.And what I want to do this
podcast is I want to give moviesa lot more credit than they have
before. Like I've like, I have a lot of
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movies playing already at this point.
And I think this format changed that.
Like I'll be on top of the exactthing I was talking about
before, but with a lot more of an interesting clear focus.
I can easily just look at the critical reception movie that
came out at point in time and then look at how people respond
on social media today. And so like, I'm not gonna be
talking about like, you know, it's also a nice thing because I
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can that's why the bigger moviesand topics like arsenic
universe, the fact that I can just look at something like I
can dodge a topic like I don't have to talk about the
incredible Hulk, Edward Norton, unless there's an interesting
viewpoint is actually haven't taken place in the culture.
And I don't want to see where like, you know, because every
movie has its shooters, right. So everyone's going to be like,
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there's got to be some freak outthere.
This is a free guy like that Ryan Reynolds movie.
Is it the best movie ever made? And people were wrong about.
But like, yeah, every movie has someone that says that I want to
talk. Movies actually had a splash in
the culture in some way, some reevaluation in some format.
And the reevaluation and the reclaiming is what we're going
to focus on because I want to see how perceptions have changed
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over time and as well as see howpeople in groups have actually
completely changed the movies lifespan.
Like when diehard came out. No one thing that during
Christmas staple in the vein of like It's A Wonderful Life or
like, like Santa Claus is comingto town real Freddy's Ranger.
But like Dire probably plays more often at Christmas time
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than any of those movies at thispoint in time because people
have changed how they talk aboutmovies over time.
I think it's a really interesting approach to tackle
podcasts. Yeah.
So movie part is going to continue.
I like the name too much. The names gonna take on the
same. I'm going to try to find a bit
more succinct way to describe what the format is.
You know, playing Chagrin David there will describe how their
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format works on a very succinctly 2 sentence things.
So hopefully I'll be able to figure that down down the line.
But yeah, Movie pause now reclaim some of the podcast
where it is about looking at movies.
I've been reevaluating and reclaimed by fans and critics
overtime and the changing receptions and the changing
attitudes towards the film, something past and present.
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And it's gonna be a bit like a movie as a time capsule
historical object. And yeah, I'm really excited
with format. The people have already talked
to you about the format change. They think it's pretty
interesting. They guessed who I've already
had scheduled who is like, hey, we're changing the form of the
pockets to be this. They're eager about it too, so
they think it's a pretty interesting idea.
So I think this is going to be agood, good change for movie
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going forward. I've been overwhelmed with the
the appreciation I've gotten from Movie Pass so far.
I think that it is. I like how it's going.
It's been beyond me while his expectations of what could be at
this point in time. Yeah.
So I'm excited to see where we'll keep keep on going.
So we will continue this every Tuesday movie pause already had
episode schedule all the way through till December at this
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point. So the line of movies I have
going forward look absolutely incredible.
I'm really, really excited discuss the next bunch.
Next Tuesday's episode, which iscloudy with a chance of
Meatballs 2 with the egg brain is still going to be happening.
Does not fit the format, but it's gonna be kind of like when
the last episode of the show there and if all goes to plan on
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October 3rd, that's going to be the season finale.
That from movie part where it's going to be the final episode as
I shift into a new era of the podcast um yeah thank you so
much for joining me for this movie pod endeavor so far I've
had a lot of fun and hopefully you enjoyed hearing me like talk
about movies and stuff. One thing I know for sure is
going to be a lot of me having guests on because I talking solo
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is a very bizarre thing to do. I want to talk to movies about
people rather than just have me talk solo because this is kind
of a stressful to do. Alright, so I'm going to the
mail bag portion of this episode.
So yeah. Also one thing too is on.
Yeah. So it's gonna be the same RSS
feeds going the same stream for the new episodes.
So you don't have to change a thing, only I change things
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around. So just stick around and you
will see what we probably gonna be up to next.
Alright, so now I'm gonna crack up in the mail bag because it's
been a while since I've done that.
So here is a letter from Andrea who was going to be a future
guest on this podcast. So she sent me 4 points saying
simply the significance of spoonimagery in the room.
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Well, I have a lot of thoughts on split image in the room when
I cover the room inevitably downthe line for the podcast,
because the room definitely fitsinto movie has been reclaimed by
the culture too, because that's where those of course
considering the worst movies ever made.
And it's been reclaimed by midnight theatre crowd and it's
taking a huge life on its own beyond what was initially
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expected. Spoon image of the room.
I don't think there is any. It's clearly just a stock photo
that's happened to have, and they just like sitting around
and feel like, hey, why the fuckis there a framed photo of a
spoon kicking around in this movie?
Here I have that framed photo ofa spoon in my room right now.
I'm looking at a movie pod studio and assigned by Greg
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Sestero. So yeah, I love the room.
The room we had reps for sure. Andrew also asked me why James
Cameron does what James Cameron does.
Like, as South Park said, James Cameron doesn't do what James
Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James
Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron.
James Cameron, one of my favorite film makers ever.
I like. He's a complete madman, a
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seemingly tyrant, unset, who is such a very detail oriented
person. I like how sweeping his stories
are. I like how he's like one of the
greats, like blockbuster film makers.
He knows what audiences like. He is very particular interest
and he's able to put that through a movie studio system
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and make them to be very entertaining.
And while blockbusters and visual effects master, actually
I think Titanium, my top 10 movies of all time, he just does
things because he wants to explore the bottom of the ocean.
He wants to create new technology because he's a
fucking psycho. He wants to kill someone
submarine and expects everyone else will be willing to drown
themselves on the set to appeasethem.
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It does seem like James Cameron soft has softened overtime in
the films. That's too.
Like it sounds like Way of Waterwas a lot more of a calm filming
situation than previous James Cameron movies.
Yeah. So James Cameron is just, he is
one that I truly, truly bizarre guy and I it sucks.
Like he's really an AI stuff now.
Hopefully he kind of gives up onthat.
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Yeah. So like when I definitely
covered shit, can I even cover James Cameron in this format?
I guess you're psychos like me who really like Avatar, like
more than most people and thingslike it's actually a fucking
like 5 star masterpiece. So maybe Avatar would be
covered. Maybe I'll do something special
for when the new movie comes out.
Fire and Ash because I love the other movies.
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But yeah, fuck, I don't think James caring for the new format
too well. I can squeeze him in somehow.
I'll figure out some way. It's my podcast.
I made the rules on myself and Andrew also asked me a talking
cat and other uses for this particular porn set.
So if you have not seen a talking cat, it's a made by
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David Takato, who is like a low budget filmmaker.
He films a lot of things his ownmansion there.
It's a family drama starting with a cat named Duffy.
Duffy is a cat that he has his magical collection long to talk.
Eric Roberts voice is the cat and he's literally drunk phoning
in his lines and this cat basically industry was lies and
just tells him like I'm I'm daffy, I'm talking cat exerting
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the girl with how you feel. You usually do better your
business. Oh, I'm Duffy.
I can only talk once I'm a talking cat.
I'm so there's a this director to Aussie films, a bunch of like
a softcore porn series called 1313.
And so this you see, you can seethis house where Tom cast phone
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was like a family drama and thenyou see these other movies he
makes like a softcore porn series software software erotica
is more fair way to describe it with a lot of like, you know,
skinny twinks running on a manner and stuff and you know,
solving a mystery or something. Yes, it's a one way.
He uses house a lot. So yeah, a talking cat could
probably fit with us too. Because I think Talking Cow has
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been kind of reclaimed by some of us cinematic weirdos who love
bad movies. Yeah.
So Talking Cat could potentiallybe on this podcast down the
line. Andrew's 4th and final
appointment e-mail. So how you conned your otherwise
intelligent sister paying money for Cats 2019?
Well, Andreas, because you're mysister and I love you and you
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love me. So yeah, of course we're gonna
see Cats together. We all lay miss together in
theatre. So he's all Tom Hooper.
Other musical there too. The Cats trailers look horrific
and terrifying scene Casting There is the only time I ever
had someone tell me like shut the fuck up during movie because
I was just like oh God, disgusting.
Fucking hell, like during the movie and Andrew had to tell me
to be quiet during the movie. I think I also played the
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depression card a little bit. Like, hey, I'm depressed, let's
go see a movie together. I know how to do that for when
she got She also bought me the movie on Blu-ray too.
So yeah, cats inevitable episode.
It's gonna happen at some point.And I love all magical cats.
Just even just naming cats in the movies.
So fucking funny. Like, you know, mongo Jerry
Rumple teaser Jenny, any dots skimble Shanks railway cat.
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You just name cats and sounds really fucking funny.
And I think going plot by plot beat by beat for a cat 17, we
really funny thing to do. So yeah, cat has abs are going
to happen. So yeah, so sorry for the late
mail bag response, but Andrea, thank you for mailing in.
Excited to have you on the show at some point soon.
So yeah, so this is this is a letter, he says.
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Hello Brian, I remember in 2012 little 11 year old me and my mom
decided to go watch me local theatre.
I don't I don't remember how we chose it.
We land and watching The Hobbit.I don't think either of us had
much knowledge of The Hobbit series but we randomly decided
to do it and thought it might bea good movie to watch.
We got our popcorn and drinks and sat down and after it was
over we thought it was a pretty good movie.
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However we cannot say the same thing but everyone else in
theatre with us. As soon as Chris started to roll
fans the original hot trilogy who were in the theatre with us
started murmuring and angry tonesaying things like that was
bullshit and what the fuck was that and they angrily walked out
in droves with me while my mom sat silent.
Surprise. Have you ever been to a movie
It's members get angry at the film during or after it?
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Keki friend later Anon. Alright, well, thank you Anon.
Yeah, people turning against themovie in the movie theatre was
seeing it. Who, Anne?
I saw a megalopolis. The North American premiere is
all of you walking out of that movie.
That got pretty muted applause after ending people like we're
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saying what the fuck was that And stuff a lot with it too.
But I think you expected something truly insane.
One of my favorite moments of people turning against the movie
in the theatre was I saw the themovie Winter's Tale from 2014
Hundred by Kayla Goldsman as Colin Farrell and Sybil from
Downton Abbey. It's like a magical realism
movie where like Colin Farrell like you know plays a young
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immigrant from the young Irish immigrant Manhattan who gets
like you know killed for awhile at Russell Crowe who is like a
demon devil type thing is based on a popular book who really
like the magical realism comes across as so damn goofy and bad.
I have some friends on school tell me like this movie is like
wow go check it out in the theatre like fine.
So is really 88 people, 4 couples they were all like 70
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plus years old. And as we went out was like
started like chuckling and laughing a little bit and by the
end of the movie it all we're having a tire lives laughing at
the movie. It was so much fucking fun.
Gamekeepers like to turn againstthe movie.
Awful movie I would love to cover at some point down the
line. It's one of the most insane
movies ever seen my entire life.It's really bad.
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I have it on Blu-ray of course. Will Smith is a cambios movie is
the most insane thing ever. Who he plays William Hurt and
Jennifer Connelly and movies that people really hated when
they came out like people did not like Batman versus humans
all that too. But I went to that movie after I
read the plot synopsis. I knew what the reveal was and
why background stopped fighting yeah so people didn't couldn't
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not like that maybe but they didnot really like revolt against.
I'm trying to fall and revolt that happened to theatre because
I feel like it's it's going to be totally blind.
I feel like people are every bitof perception of what was gonna
be like unless like opening night and like I feel like a lot
of the reviews pop up there. I guess I could actually.
No, no, good example is when I saw the Star Wars last Jedi, I
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came in the everything like this, like the best we've ever
seen in my entire life like this, like one of the best
blockbuster I've seen. This is like on part of the
original Star Wars movie. Like this is so fucking good.
And then just like loading up Twitter and something everyone
fucking despising the movie for some valid reasons, some very
invalid, sexist, racist reasons.But that was not really in the
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theatre. So people were billing us, even
Skywalker, like, you know, I hada pretty very cordial crowd that
and seemed to enjoy it. Yeah, I kind of would love to
see. I got full revolt in a movie.
And I do love, I feel like I'm Canadians, like a lot of my
crowds are pretty respectable, respectful compared to like
horses here in America, really like uncivilized monsters who's
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like cannot contain themselves and have to applaud it every
damn scene ever. But yeah, I can understand the
frustration of the movies. The hot movies are very much a
they it's a strange adaptation snap in three movies.
The outlaw stuff, it feels like a made for streaming movie for
the most part, but yeah, like I never seen a movie just got
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completely ever get angry at it.I kind of want it would be kind
of fun to fun to witness. So yeah, thank you for the
letter. I will love to keep my open to
see if we can really piss off a crowd because I kind of like to
see that a lot. I wanna see some boos and jeers
and the movie which rarely happens like I kind of.
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Like even with TIF or like you are, you had a Film Festival
where you kind of like seeing itbefore the rest of the people
are kind of like, you know, like, Oh yeah, even was kind of
mediocre. People kind of like applauding
for like, you know, being have like, hey, you at least made a
movie. You did something, you put it
out there. I feel like it's going to be
better for blockbusters, like bigger movies because like that
like no one's sympathy for like,you know, a Marvel movie sucking
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shit at all. Like I kind of would love to see
a movie opening and have everyone grip on it.
Like just just not, not because it's Marvel per se, but just
because it is a big blockbuster franchise.
I would love to see people just like turning against a movie
because film is a communal experience going to experience.
I kind of want to see more of a,you know, I think it's good that
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people are kind of more generousand thoughtful, but we kind of
fun to see people like go completely haywire and insane
with it. So yeah.
So thank you Anon for the letter.
Thank you for listening and I will please e-mail me again down
the line. Alright, so my final letter I
got here is from a Tuck and Tuckasked me.
This is a good one. You're on your deathbed, you
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have time to watch one more movie, but you only have three
blurs available. They are the Pest Life itself
and Jurassic World Dominion. What do you do?
OK, Thank you. Talk.
So I went, OK, so I'm on my deathbed, right?
So you would have one more movie.
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Shit, if I saw the past, I'd probably blow my brains out on
the spot because The Past with John Leguizamo is one of those
irritating was ever very, very awful movie life itself.
That is the movie made by the guy who did like This Is Us, the
TV show. So it's like basically
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everything is connected kind of drama with like Oscar eyes, like
Olivia Wilde as he got there. Antonio Banderas give you a
cook. It's really fucking atrocious.
It's so fucking funny cause thing saying something profound,
but just like Oh well, like, youknow, and the whole thing with
life itself is like Olivia was like she's like, you know, the
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college students, just like Oh well, like, you know, the only
reliable narrator in life is life itself.
So like this is the most profound thing answers in their
life such like a bunch of horseshit, but life itself rules
because at least like 3 people get hit by buses in that movie.
So it's really fucking funny. It's a really awful script,
really awful screenplay, but it's very if you want to watch
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like a good bad self serious movie, Life was pretty good for
that. Jurassic World Dominion as a
drastic World Dominion is the 6th Jurassic Park movie and it's
the one the biggest piece of shit too.
Entire life. I would think that one either
because Colin Trevor was like one of the biggest hacks working
in Hollywood for sure. That was a complete crock of
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shit. That movie is just an absolute
abomination. It's a legacy sequel in the
worst ways because it just does not give a fuck about what made
the original was important to like.
They would have like Laura Dern standing up for recreating her
own shot of like her looking at the dinosaur the first time but
she's looking at nothing. They just want to get the shot
of her looking at something, butshe's looking at like a tree or
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something. Get Dozen back as the villain.
Because I remember Dozen, the first one.
It is just a really, really bad bad, bad, bad, bad movie.
Um, yes, obvious three. Well, I I'm gonna have to pick a
life itself as the one Blu-ray to watch on my deathbed because
I'm, I feel like I there's some joy in the world other out of
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those three traffic life itself on the library to watch because
I I would laugh a little bit. I thought the passengers were to
me like, you know, slam a hammerin my head a bunch of times.
But life itself is bafflingly bad.
It tries to be profound. I already have flavors of in
Blu-ray, so I have to acquire it.
I'm like the peasant dress what to me, which I do not own a copy
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of it all. So yeah, let my answer my
deathbed one more movie, but always 3 available is life
itself. It sucks ass.
It's a horrible. I really want to do this podcast
on the line because it is a truly, truly bizarre movie
about, like, I don't know, like Bob Dylan music and having an
olive oil vineyard or something.It is very, very bad.
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Yeah. So that's all I got in the
mailbox so far is keep sending amail at
moviepowermailthey@gmail.com. Yes, I'm really tired of the
format change, so please stick around for that.
And until next Tuesday, we're talking to a egg brain with
clear chance of meatballs. Two, please take care.