Resident Evil (2002) w/ Maeve

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Hello, welcome to Movie Pod, a reclaimed cinema podcast.
This podcast examines movies that have had noticeable shifts
in reception since release. This is the first episode of the
new format. Today we'll be discussing a film
that's been reclaimed by subscribers of the quote UN
quote vulgar auteurist theories as well as Action Cinema fans.
I'm joined by maybe this week todiscuss Paul WS Anderson's

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Resident Evil from 2002. How are you doing, Dave?
Where am I? How did I get here?
What's that in the corner? Got amnesia already?
God, I wish. Honestly, I think amnesia would
make life easier in some aspects.
Right now I feel it would be more annoying than anything else
because you Can you imagine learning about all the fresh

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horrors of the world for the first time, like, all at once?
Yeah, but I'd still have like two or three moments of
innocence that I didn't have before.
Yeah, that would be nice. Like it's kind of like when I
was at TIFF, like I was like for11 days straight, the only news
I ever got was that Charlie Kirkgot shot.
Other than that, I was obliviousto everything going on in the
world. And it was felt kind of great
coming out of that little public.

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Oh, I don't know what's happened.
Like in the real in real life past 11.
Days, yeah, that's like, I guessthat's kind of the closest you
can get to go into like summer camp right now.
Yeah, well, like I guess runningman.
Probably the best example of it,Burning Man's Summers camp, if
you want to do a lot, yeah. Yeah, it's like everything I
know about about Burning Man indicates that I would just find

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it so incredibly tedious. I have a couple of friends, I've
gone a couple times and they said it's an absolute blast.
If you're not in there for like the drug scene or anything that
just like the arts scene is really interesting.
Just like people come there likereally cool exhibits and stuff.
There's culture, like there's like people like the whole
bartering system involving water, which is really cool.
It's like playing Fallout. Yeah.

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But also, like, everything I hear from it is like how like
Silicon Valley tech idiots have kind of like tried, have kind of
like tried to take it over the way they've taken over, like the
city of Austin, TX. Yeah, yeah, I guess my friends
went like the 2010, so it's probably much worse now, like
everything else. And the move we're talking about
is about a tech company being totally evil too.

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Gasp. So yes, I guess First off, let's
talk about your experience with Resident Evil as a game series.
Do you play the games? I am not very much of what one
may call a gamer like I've had like I've played video games
from time to time, but it's mostly like stuff I can run on
my computer. Like, I had a GameCube and
Nintendo Wii and I have a Switchnow, but I own one game for that

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Switch, which is Breath of the Wild.
And I have not finished it because I ran into the Yiga Clan
mission and got like, you have to infiltrate the Ego clan
stronghold. And I was so bad at that and
failed so many times. I was just like, I'm just gonna
like put it down for a bit, lookat a walkthrough and then get
back to it. And then over a year and a half

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later, I still have not done that.
I should go back into that part is pretty easy once you learned
if you throw bananas to distractthem they'll go out that.
Yeah, it's like, The thing is, Iget past like the first half and
then like, I get to like that sort of like thing where I'm in
the ceiling and I have to figureout how to get past like, you
know, the ceiling that leads to the room with like 5 billion
bananas in it. I can't get through that without

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the clan. So I need to actually, like,
watch footage of someone playingand getting past that segment.
So I know what to do because I tried like reading a
walkthrough, but I need the visual thing.
I did pick up the game again a few and do like 45 minutes in it
like 2 weeks ago in order to like refresh my memory of the
controls. It's a very Zen, meditative game

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which I really, really like. Yeah, it's like, I feel like
it's a very cliche favorite gameanswer, but I feel like it kind
of has to be for me by default at this point.
Yeah, the residential games, like I've played all the
mainline games and like I playeda residual 10 and maybe 2 on the
N64 by the time the first movie came out.

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So I was already into Resident Evil by the time I seen the
movie. I find the games be a lot of fun
and they're pretty cheesy, whichis like pretty cheesy, pretty
humorous once you get to the rhythm of it.
Cause like a lot of it is like you, you're going like, you
know, walking through hallways movie.
This movie is a lot of walking through hallways, but it's also
a lot of like, you know, memorizing location, finding

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quickest routes, places, conserving ammo.
It's a really fun game. We get into the rhythm of it,
like be very stressful and frustrating if you fuck up, like
if you leave an item in the wrong spot or something or get
back to your inventory. See like, you know, 6 inventory
slots, you had to drop a key offsomewhere else.
You need the key. So we get pretty frustrating,
but they're really fun games andit's fine with walkthroughs

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there like a like a lot of like people were involved with the
movie, like they just got like they either play the game
themselves or someone else to play.
It was like record a walk through for them like what
probably 2001 or 2000 like a probably a camcorder or
something. To kind of get like, yeah, it's
like a couple years later on Kristoff Gonzalez is Silent Hill
movie, which which also probablyfits the reclaimed cinema thing.

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Hmm I like that movie a lot. Apparently on set instead of
storyboards, Gans would just like just like had a console
with a copy of of a Silent Hill game, I forget which one, on
standby to use that as sort of like inspiration instead of like
concept art and storyboards. And he's got, he's got his

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sequel to it coming out soon. So that's going to be
interesting. So Silent Hills getting its own
sequel because Silent Hill already has SQL.
And yeah, but now Christoph Gunsis making one.
It's called Return to Silent Hill.
There's a short trailer out and OK, yeah, looks pretty neat.
So I guess you have placed on Hill Games at.
All I'm not a fucking chance. Haven't played Resident Evil.

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Of course, I haven't played Silent Hill.
Resident was like really more, alot more accessible than a
Silent Hill, which is like strange because they're very
similar kinds of games. It's funny, like the audio
commentary for Resident Evil. And then last night I watched
the first like 20 minutes of Resident Evil Apocalypse, which
is the second movie with the audio commentary.
And it's funny how watching all the actors talk about like OHSU

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was like, you know, a cult indiegame, Like, you know, it's kind
of a hardcore stuff, which like it's a pretty mainstream game,
but same time, like it's strangethat Resident Evil as a video
game series took off the way it did.
Like it's the best selling horror franchise by far for
video games. And it's so it's it's
accessible, but it's also like it's challenging.
It's not too dumb, except for like there are every once in a

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while they reboot results to gettoo dumb and stupid.
I feel like it's a well, games like once you it feels like
you're playing a game that's like harder.
It's like it's almost like, you know, I compare lots of Dark
Souls where like it's hard once you start playing it, but once
you get into the rhythm, like, oh, this game is actually fair
and challenging. So I feel like it's a game that
like, yeah, it's funny watching all these acts like it's a

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hardcore, non mainstream game. But I think it is the probably
one of the most mainstream challenge of a games out there
because I think it is like it's they're not that long.
They really are not like maybe like you can speed run the games
like a couple hours and like maybe it takes like 10 hours at
most to beat most of the games. They're not very long games and
the overall pretty similar pattern too overall.

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Like you start off with like barely anything.
You still get what items that goalong.
You go to from one location to another location to like.
You know, pretty much dissents to a lab at the end of each
game, which is like what this movie does overall.
Yeah, it's like I will admit that my main knowledge of the
video game lower her Resident Evil comes from my friends who
are a filthy gamers who need to be locked in a dungeon.

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And it's mainly just like I knowvarious character names.
I know some memes associated with it, like the whole Mr. X
thing from that one be making while ago.
And of course I know the tall, hot vampire mommy.
Oh, Lady Demetria view from a residential village.
Yeah, because I am a gay woman on the Internet, so of course I
learned about it. That's a if you're.

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Yeah, honestly, if you want to play Resident Evil, I think, Oh,
I'm not sure 7 or 8 on the Switch there, but Resident Evil
8, which is called residential Village, which has the tall
vampire mommy. That's a pretty good first one
we're going to play. It's pretty accessible.
Alright, Anyways, let me just drive to Best Buy and spend $550
on a PS-5 really quick or spend $100 on PS4 and get it for that.

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Those are pretty cheap now. I was trying to see if I could
get rid of my PS4 after I got myPS-5.
They're actually pretty cheap right now.
So if you want to get into like a PS4 gaming, now it's time to
do it. How much is shipping from Canada
to the US? Canada Post strike happening
right now. Very expensive.
OK never mind then. Hope they hope the Canada Post

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gets what they need. Same here.
Yep this is so this is a pro union movie podcast unlike all
of those anti union movie podcasts.
Like, I don't know, I'm pretty sure Bill Maher has one.
Do you think the umbrella corporation has a union at all?
Absolutely fucking not. Imagine umbrellas like Amazon
times 30 given how they're portrayed and described in the

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movie. Because like the opening bit of
narration in the movie, which isdone by an uncredited Jason
Isaacs who who was meant to playa character from the video
games, but that is then morphed into a character played by Ian
Glenn in the sequels named afterJason Isaacs.
Because I guess Isaacs was busy with Harry Potter or something.

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I think so, yeah. So that character I guess
narrates about how the Umbrella Corporation publicly is like the
Umbrella Corporation sells medical supplies and other
necessary human technology, but they secretly make all their
money doing contracted viral weaponry for for various world

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governments. Which like nowadays like Amazon
Web Services, like sells to military contractors and they're
obvious about it like. Yeah, it's like a little bit of
that. And like Amazon is also now
getting into the pharmacy game, which I think is illegal, should
be illegal, very much so. Things that should be illegal,
Amazon monopolies in general andalso gambling.

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We need to make gambling illegalagain.
We tried. We cannot handle it.
Make it illegal again. I feel like a is resident before
the one that's like in like California or Vegas that has
like a there's three the one in Vegas the my impression, yeah,
Resident Evil extinction is the one that is kind of like in the
future American Southwest and they get to the remains of Las

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Vegas at one point. Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure at some point in that there's probably
an umbrella corporation like logo on like a slot machine or
something. Yeah, I'd have to like, rewatch
to make sure which, Oh no, I have to rewatch.
I get to rewatch these movies for the billionth fucking time.
But yeah, it's like to talk about like how I got into this
and sort of like the vulgar alter thing around like 2014.

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I 2015, my sort of like mindset for film.
Like I'd gotten into film a couple years earlier, but it was
through like very like YouTube type pseudo critic film
analysis, You know, all your fucking Jeremy Johns and your
Chris Stuckmann's and your dog walkers and shit like that.
All shit that I cringed to thinkback on and then like as I kind

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of started delving more into it and sort of like discovering
things that interested me and what where my tastes kind of
lied, I ended up stumbling upon a new circle of regret film
Twitter. And something that a lot of the
big film Twitter voices around, like sort of like 2014, 2015,
2016 were really pushing was sort of the vulgar auteurism

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movement, which is basically like reclaiming, like directors
who were disliked by critics andby sort of like more broader,
more mainstream film nerd circles and being like, hey,
these guys are all tears too, and we need to treat them as
such. Like my in for vulgar auteurism
was M Night Shyamalan, a director I've always liked and

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admired and has made some of my favorite movies, including ones
that a lot of people despise. Science has become sort of
widely mocked in recent years after being a big critically
liked hit. It's fucking favorites, yes.
Science rocks. The Village I think is great,
and there's been a lot of like great sort of riding on the
Village as a piece of 911 cinema.

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I actually kind of dig After Earth because if nothing else,
for the weird sort of meta text of the Will Smith, Jaden Smith
element of it all. See, that's why I hate it.
And also, I love Glass, which a lot of people hate, which a lot
of nerds in particular hate because they wanted a big Dang
stupid fight sequence superhero shit.

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And that's why it fucking rocks that night did not give it to
you because I remember so many comments.
Night didn't give the fans what they wanted.
Yeah, because what the fans wantis stupid.
Have you can exactly yeah, like last, because it's an origin
story for people just aren't discovered.
Spoiler alert for glass. But the end of the movie is
basically like all their fight scenes is like is like capture

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on video. So like people are like oh, like
the world is now aware superheroes exist.
So it's an origin story for the people on of the of the earth
understanding oh super, super powered beings exist on this
planet. Yeah, and basically I think I'm
that chameleon has two runs of just straight all out like 5
star masterpieces. The first one is the 6th sense
Unbreakable Signs in the Villageand the second one is glass Old

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and Knock at the Cabin. I like trap.
I like Trap a lot, but I kind ofhave to.
But I kind of have a very boringopinion of Trap, which is that I
like the movie less. Once it gets out of the arena, I
like it the same amount one leaves the area.
I think it's also really interesting.
It's like I think Trap is still very strong movie like I just
don't really like consider it onthe level of some of the other

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stuff that I love from night. But yeah, it's like I'm not
sure. I'm almost my gateway to Vulgar
Altruism and some other directors that kind of fell in
that sort of like area. One was 2 directors that I
haven't really gotten deep into,the minds of which are Neveldine
and Taylor, who made the Crank movies.
But one of the big directors that vulgar alturism was pushing
was Paul WS Anderson. And I was curious about it

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because I had only sort of knownPaul WS Anderson as a guy who
made like some mid budget nerd movies that people hated.
Yeah. But then as I kind of delved
into Paul WS Anderson's work, I was like, OK, there's stuff
here. There's really interesting stuff
here and you kind of walk into asensibility, which the thing
with Paul WS Anderson is that ifhe had started directing movies

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a decade earlier than he actually had been, he would have
been making cannon movies. Absolutely, 100%, yeah.
Yeah, he would have been like making stuff.
He would have been making stuff like fucking Stone Cold stuff
starring Brian Bosworth, that kind of thing.
Fun movie. And he came, he ended up coming
up a bit later than that. So he does still get into making
like genre movies, but in sort of a completely different way

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because his first film was like a British indie, which was Jude
Law's film debut. A movie called Shopping that I
still have not seen. It is.
It is the only Paul Dubious Anderson film I have not seen.
And then he goes from that into the Mortal Kombat movie, which
is pretty decently liked, I think.
Still, it remains the best Mortal Kombat movie to this day.
Because thanks to Yeah yeah, that, that new one was so

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fucking bad. Man, I kind of like the new one,
but the Paul WS Anderson kind oflocks into the kind of like a
the video game kind of mindset and logic of a movie.
How a movie, how video games progress is different, how
movies progress. I think Paul Davis Anderson
understands how video games, like they have their weird,
like, you know, go to point A topoint B again and go here and do

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that. And with Mortal Kombat, it's
kind of like you go from here tohere, you do fight.
You go from here to here, do a fight.
Because all Mortal Kombat is just a series of fight scenes
with like some cool, cool visuals.
And I think he got that right. Of course, some limitations to
how much violence could put on screen.
But like, I think it's a fun movie.
Like that's the thing, like especially comparing it to the

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new one directed by a commercialguy and written by some fucking
Jackass. It has a lot of very talented
physical performers in it. But also at the same time, the
issue with that Mortal Kombat movie is that it sort of falls
prey to a lot of the general post Marvel attempted franchise
building bullshit because it tries to launch a trilogy of
Mortal Kombat movies. And it does that by making a

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Mortal Kombat movie where the Mortal Kombat tournament doesn't
happen. Yeah, it's weird because they're
fighting before the term. Like why you wait till the end?
It also has maybe and it also has maybe the worst bit of this
kind of screen writing I've everseen where it's like Sonya
Blade, I forget who plays her, is telling Louis Tan as some guy

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about all her like cork board, string board research about the
history of Mortal Kombat tournament and Lewis Tan's
response to us. They spelled combat wrong lol.
And at that point I just wanted to throw hot coffee on
everybody's faces that genuinelylike I was.

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That was one of the HBO Max Warner Brothers 2021 COVID
movies, which I watched most of in my house.
So I was just watching that one on my laptop being like fuck
you. I think it was just hard to see
a new release like. That's the thing though, like
some of those Warner Brothers HBO Max COVID releases like are

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of course like actual good movies like Dune was one of
those. I think Dune was also the only
one of those I saw in theatres, which is weird because one of
them was a new Matrix movie. The Matrix movies all all of
them being among my favorite movies of all time.
Unfortunately due to timing, I was not able to see Matrix
Resurrections in theatres, but Idid watch it multiple times on
HBO Max So and I have one and I have this gorgeous Best Buy

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steelbook as well. Which man, remember when Best
Buy sold discs? Yep, they don't fucking do that
anymore. Which makes me.
Very sad actually. Earlier this year I ordered it.
Just got a 4K TV this year. So I got the Matrix trilogy on
steel books and then major majorMatrix Resurrections.
There was a steel book in Francethat looked really damn cool.

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Order it from there. So have an awesome French
version of the movie which like courses English language and
everything to it too. But the steelbook looks really
awesome. Yeah, it's like it's kind of
funny getting like various like foreign like discs sometimes.
Like Mike, I have a Blu-ray 3 pack of the Three Colours
trilogy that I have. Not watched, it's so good.

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Yeah. And for whatever reason, the
three pack I have is like a German release that is not
region locked. And I got it from like, used
from like a record store in Chicago.
Yeah. Reckless Records in Chicago, I
don't know if they're still open, but they had a downtown
location that when I was visiting the city a couple

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times, I rated their used disc section like, because that's
what I do. That's how I get my discs now
for the most part. Same here.
Yeah. Yeah.
I just like go to like a Half Price Books, which is the chain
that is mostly kind of centred in Texas in the Midwest, but
there's some in other places as well, which is basically just
like, yeah, it's like a used book store that also sells DVD's

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and CD's and records and stuff. Yeah, like I have like I have
the first five resume movies on DVD has gotten the thrift store
is probably Goodwill over the years.
Yeah, so like we've been talkingabout talk about like, you know,
the reception politics, Andersonmovies.
It's like the reception of the first movie is was pretty mixed
to negative when it came out. Like I was on video game forms
around the time because I just got like Resident Evil remake on

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GameCube. So like I was like talking on
forums about the game and the movie just come out and like
everyone was shitting on the movie.
How? Like it was a bad adaptation,
which I agree is not a great adaptation of video game.
They say like it lacks atmosphere, it lacks humor, it
lacks tension. They want like those guys are
fucking dipshits. But like, yeah, yeah, like they

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are. But like they want to straighten
the video game instead. Kind of got with Welcome to
Raccoon City, which is the thingabout gamers is that they are
absolute dumbasses and there's areason why they should never get
what they want. But you also gotta remember 2002
though, is like there were no good view of adaptations.
Point time basically was like that Mario Bros me the 80s

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Street Fighter, which is an incredibly weird movie.
I kind of like it Mortal Kombat than this like there has not
been that many video game adaptations.
So like people are kind of waiting for the one to kind of
breakthrough. Also around this time too, like
there's a whole debate like are video games art or not?
And now that arguments kind of settled, like I think people
kind of just agree that it's an equal art form, like cinema,

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television plays. It's just different.
Doesn't stop doesn't stop gamersfrom basically only wanting like
games, writing in games criticism that basically
function like Consumer Reports magazine 100% yeah, they're
they're still gamers are still the worst ever.
Like no, no doubt about it. But like around this time it
came to like the popular reception.
Video games, like video games were considered something like,

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you know, the distraction. They're considered something
that was considered serious. So I think people were still
looking for that one video game adaptation to kind of
breakthrough, like, hey, mom anddad look like this movie is
good. So you should let me like, you
know, buy more video games. And I think like really at this
point in time, I think there's the first Resident Evil 123 Code

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Veronica and Zero was coming outwhen this movie came out.
And like adaptation of those games, this one is not the best
for it. But I as well as we'll go on to
we'll talk about this movie for a fair amount.
Is that like this movie is good for what it's not?
Like I think that the Resident Evil movies as they go along,
they're like a lot better being schlocky be action movies with a

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really creative action director at the helm.
Yeah, it's like the thing with the movie is that I remember I
have a Blu-ray set of the 1st 5 movies, which is basically a big
cardboard sleeve with all the individual Blu rays of one
through 5 in them. And then I bought The Final
Chapter new on Blu-ray when it released, right?
So that and the Underworld movies are both kind of like

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similar display issues I have where it's like a big nice
cardboard sleeve that has the first bunch movies in them and
then it's the newest one just onits lonesome.
But yeah, it's like I remember watching the promo of like the
special features on the Blu-ray forever ago when I had time to
sit down and watch special features.
And it's kind of funny seeing how the the change in how the

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movies were talked about by the creative team over time, because
for in the special features likethe EPK from the time in the
first Resident Evil movie, they talk a lot about how the movie
is set as a prequel to the events of the games
specifically. Which was the initial plan,
yeah. Yeah, it's like what happened in
the hive before, you know, various names from the video

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game that I guess I should know,like I think one of them is
named Redfield. Like Oh yeah Chris Redfield
cause he was in more later movies and all the other and all
the other people who gamers clapwhen they see.
And which these movies have a lot of later on because like
it's the the characters they bring along in the movies, like

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from the games, like they are very much like not what how they
act within the games themselves.They're based just like, Oh
yeah, here's Jill Valentine. Let's you know, hey, look what
clap is Joe Valentine like doesn't really act like Jill
Valentine at all. Really.
Like it's mostly just like I canobviously.
But yeah, that's one of the reasons why the second movie is
the worst one because they just went whole hog on trying to

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please the gamers with the second movie.
So as a result, that was reception was the time too, like
being on gaming forums and seeing people like people like
the second movie a lot more because it was like trying to be
more of an action video game rather than being like a
Resident Evil thing. And like that game was trying to
adapt Resident Evil 3 into like a movie with like Nemesis and
such. And that stuff is pretty

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effective when it comes to adapting the video game stuff.
So I think people thought like other least residue was like
learning lessons going in the right direction.
Which is then responsible because 2 is very clearly the
worst movie with like the worst with the worst filmmaking in the
worst script. And it's it's it's the worst
one, clearly, by far. Yeah, it's not great.
Yeah. When you bring me back in

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however many months to talk about it, We'll get into it.
Yeah. These these movies, they did
very well. Each resume movie in this live
action series made more money than the last.
So like, they were going to keepmaking them matter what.
So they know what changed. Reception came series in the
early 20 tens. There's a lot of combining
elements to this. So Resident Evil 6 came out like
2012 and no one liked it. Made a lot of money solo copies

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but the fans really disliked it was more of a dumb action is
more of a dumb action game that was a horror game which like
what are the movies? They're more of a dumb action
franchise rather than a horror movie.
Times like when the Marvel we took over the box office middle
budget movies like Resident Eviland like Underworld stuff start
fizzling out. There's like cut these movies
don't really exist. In yeah, yeah, those great kind

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of like Screen Gems, like $50 million, like dumb ass shot
action horror hybrids like a newUnderworld and a new Resident
Evil came out like 2 weeks apartin 2017 and that was kind of
like the last of it with Underworld still leaving
elements to be like figured out if I remember correctly.

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But the issue is that Kate Beckinsale just didn't want to
do it anymore. I've only seen them.
I have the entire series on DVD,but I've only seen the first
one. The second under the second
underworld is the best one. The third underworld has a lot
of shooters and it does a lot ofreally interesting stuff. 4 is
bad. It has some like it has like 1

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or 2K action sequences in it, but it feels more like a pilot
for an Underworld TV series thanit does like a full film.
And and Blood Wars is kind of cut to the bone, but you know,
it's fun enough and it it gives a Kate Beckinsale fun new dyed
hair, which why make these movies if you aren't going to

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give those stars insane looks? And the one thing that makes
these movies really work the theResident Evil live action ones
is that Milla Jovovich is like, she has the best looks ever.
Yeah, Milla Jovovich, like I think around the third one she
start, I think actually I think around the second one she

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started picking out the outfits herself and her I know that for
at least Extinction, her own clothing line designed her look
for that movie. I know at the spoiler for the
end of the first movie here thatshe sent the audio commentary
that like at the end when she wakes up again and she's like
covered with like another like white like hospital gown and
stuff. Like she was the one that did
her own hair for that scene and she came with her own little

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costume there too. So she had some control in the
first one too. Yeah, because, like, Milla
Jovovich was a model before she became an actor, and she is
still kind of very iconic and sort of like that 90s fashion
world, in part because she had afew like, acting parts that
really took off there around thesame time she was doing her main

(27:40):
modeling. But when she pivoted more to
film, like I think a part of whyResident Evil is still kind of
like her arguably her most definitive role because it's
either this or Lee Liu Dallas inThe Fifth Element.
I think part of it is that like Mila is really good at playing
this sort of like steely, sort of detached action hero

(28:01):
character. There are multiple periods over
the course of this series and its promo materials and like
Making of stuff where various people, especially Paul WS
Anderson, compared Mila to ClintEastwood.
And I feel like that kind of nails it.
Like she's got that sort of presence and that sort of vibe.
Like I guess if I had to like compare the two, I'd say close

(28:23):
the better actor overall. Because part of it is that
modern action star Mula without Paul either writing or producing
or directing her, the vehicles built around her just aren't
great. Like I've never seen
Ultraviolet. Everyone hates that movie.
That's a bad movie. Like, I don't know, Ultraviolet
could be a movie where I watch it and I'm like and go to the

(28:47):
map for it. Every once in a while I'll get a
vibe that maybe I could like go to the map for a movie.
Everyone hates I wish I I tried doing the Ultraviolet a few
years ago. I bought on DVD, rewashed it
after the first something since it came out and it's just, it's
so ugly. That's the main problem is that
it's a hideous looking movie andlike she's not very good in it.

(29:09):
It's edited very strangely and haphazardly.
It's just a movie that's just like it's there's nothing really
there at all. Like that's Kurt Wimmer
directions and go to equilibrium.
It's not I've not seen a movie Kurt Wimmer directed.
The funny thing is in high school, like my senior year

(29:29):
English class, we did a dystopiaunit that was, you know, sort of
like the history of like dystopia and science fiction.
And the teacher was like, look, after you watch all of these
movies and write, read all thesebooks, you should watch
Equilibrium, not because it's great, but because but because
it is a very interesting mix of literally everything.
We are talking about putting a blender.

(29:52):
I can see that. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, And it's like, I know people stick up for Equilibrium,
but my thing with it is that theway some people, like, I
remember like when the young adult dystopia boom was
happening and there were a lot of people who were sort of like
talking about it because it's not like those books and movies
are above criticism. But there were a lot of people

(30:12):
talking about it in a deeply sort of sexist way that people
were talking about sort of like the YA paranormal romance boom
that preceded the YA dystopia stuff.
And also just young adult books in general.
And again, these books, a lot ofthem fucking suck.
Like a lot of them are not like beyond reproach or beyond
criticism. But at the same time, some of

(30:33):
the discussion of those books and movies kind of leaves a sour
taste in my mouth just listeningto it.
Yeah. And I guess to finish off like I
saw people like talking about Equilibrium as a better, more
badass version of the why dystopian stuff.
Like girls should watch this instead.
They should not. And it's like we are never we

(30:56):
are. If there are people who like
I've noticed the phenomenon of people whose opinions on pop
culture calcified into year 2010and they are never growing past
it. So, like, so like the way it's
like when whenever I hear peoplebe like, like shit talk like pop
music that is kind of just become like accepted cannon,
like people were like, this songis trash.

(31:19):
And the song is like, that person is so untalented and the
artists are talking about is like Ke$ha.
Yeah. And and another thing is like
whenever people like still make like racist jokes about M Night
Shamala's name or crap on him for the fucking Airbender movie,
It's like that movie was 15 years ago and there's a worse
live action last year Bender thing out now.

(31:39):
You get it. You like the cartoon you saw on
Nickelodeon when you were nine. That does not mean it's it needs
still needs to be your entire personality and what you base
your entire like sort of like online identity and taste in
film on. Yeah, and that's the thing that
started with, like with this podcast, with the new format is
that like, there's always going to be shooters things when
people grow up with the movies too, because like, oh, I like

(32:01):
this is a kid. So it has to be like, you know,
something's actually great. But like, sometimes kids just
like bad things. So like, I'm trying to find
things that actually have like, you know, a full on, like
reappraisal. So doing some research on like
when people start turning aroundResident Evil and Paul Davis
Anderson. And I noticed a big bunch of
articles pop up in September 2012.
And because that is when Resident Evil retribution came

(32:22):
out and that kind of became one of the defining vulgar alters.
What happened September 12th, 2012 as New Retribution came
out, but also Paul Thomas Anderson released the master of
September 12, 2012. So as one of situations where
people like making those jokers like, well, Paul Anderson is
releasing a good movie and it's gonna be Resident Retribution.

(32:43):
Super making those jokey headlines then.
And yeah, then people like because of that, because Paul
Thomas Anderson, this is the first movie since there were
blood. So everyone's trying to elevate
Paul WS Anderson as well becauselike we fund have these
Andersons kind of square off kind of thing.
And like it's not like there's like a Barb wire thing for that
point in time. But like and because they are
such wildly different movies, like The Master and Resident

(33:06):
Retribution, like they are wildly different movies, but
they're wildly entertaining for different.
And also, they're both kind of about, like, loss of
individuality, Yeah, in a way. Yeah, there's there's absolutely
comparisons you can make. Yeah.
So people were defending Paul was innocent around this time
two more than I ever saw before.So that's why I started some

(33:26):
people started using the term vulgar or tour and came to
Anderson. So backing up a little bit
because talking vulgar altour theory a little bit.
But like I think we talked aboutwe talked about Artur theory
just begin with, which is a cause of that.
Francois Truffaut came on the 1950s during the French New
Wave. He's one of the big French New
Wave film makers. The idea of Otera theory is that

(33:47):
it's the idea you can assign authorship to a film and it
should be the director because the director's filmmaking
control and just the role on theset allows their style and
sensibility to seep into the picture more so than any other
person on the set. Um, so vulgar auteur theory as a
term was first used by Canadian critic in 2009.
The critic was named Andrew Tracy and he's writing essay

(34:11):
Michael Mann at that point is Michael Mann.
'S all the all the vulgar, vulgar alter people I knew
fucking loved Michael Mann, me included.
Exact thing. A lot of this was part of like
around the reappraisal of Miami Vice and sort of like.
The instinct This Miami Vice wasthe movie this essay was pretty
much about because. And, and a lot of the people who
love Miami Vice, when Black Cat came out, they kind of

(34:31):
immediately launched onto Black Hat.
And it took me awhile to get on the Black Hat train, but I
eventually did. It took a couple, took a couple
watches and now I think, and nowI think that movie is just kind
of like a flat out great. I think black and maybe it's
like like 5 out of five movies. I love them to death.
Yeah, it's like, I will say thatmy favorite man is Prop,

(34:51):
probably Miami Vice, but also like it changes like whatever my
second place is kind of changes with every rewatch I do with
Michael Mann, you know? Kind of like people became
nostalgic for VHS then DVD's came out.
Like people are always nostalgicfor the earlier things happened.
And I feel like with the CGI digital age where in these
movies that are kind of like proto CGI stuff like Resident

(35:13):
Evil where like it's not all CGI.
It's like the CGI, this movie isnot the best, but they're
blending it interesting with some real actual like
animatronics, prosthetic work like so it's the.
Also with the and also with Resident Evil afterlife, but
especially Resident Evil retribution, sort of like using
the inherent artificiality of digital filmmaking becomes a big

(35:36):
point for vulgar all tourists. And you kind of see that a bit
with man in his digital era, specifically with Miami Vice and
Black Hat and with Public Enemies too, but a bit lesser
because people like that movie less.
Like I will just like flat out say it.
I think Resident Evil retribution is both the best
video game movie of all time andPaul's best movie.

(35:57):
I. Think.
Yeah, I think that movie is justflat out incredible.
And part of it is its use of theartifice of digital.
Like it shot with the red 3D cameras that were going on
around that time, like the stuffthat really Scott shop
Prometheus with, and it was using it in a very interesting
way. I never saw the movie in 3D, but

(36:17):
you look at how that movie lookscompared to Afterlife, which was
shot on the James Cameron 3D system.
And Retribution looks so much better.
Like I like Afterlife, but Afterlife kind of has that issue
with a lot of like of the cheaper shot in 3D movies that
kind of came out both before andafter Avatar.
Where when you're not watching it in 3D, it just looks so flat.

(36:38):
Yeah. And the parts are supposed to be
like the big 3D moment, like it looks so jarring to see.
Like, it looks like this is distractingly believe that The
movie that comes to mind is Haveyou seen Drive Angry with Nick
Cage? Yeah, That's kind of like the
defining a look of that kind of thing in my mind.
So like with vulgar tourism as aterm, like reevaluate the

(36:59):
previously dismissed work of cinemas by directors, like a lot
of think pieces did pop in the 20 tens and there's a lot of
directors that will definitely pop in this podcast later on
that will applying directors like Zack Snyder, Michael Bay,
John Mctiernan, Paul Verhoeven, Tony Scott, there's all.
These years, Zack Snyder and Tony Scott, especially our two
directors that definitely fall under the vulgar alturism thing

(37:20):
for like, if like there is a chance I drag you to the podcast
recording station at gunpoint. And I can tell you why I think
Batman versus Superman is good. I hate that movie a ton.
So it's gonna be like, I don't like, I don't love the movie,
but in its three hour forum, I actually really like it.
And I'm also a pretty big shooter for the Snyder Cut.

(37:41):
God, yeah. That would take a lot of
convincing. And I also read and also like, I
really love Snyder's Army of theDead movie he did for Netflix,
which everyone else, even the people I know who were kind of
positive on that movie, just thought it was OK.
And I was like over the fucking moon for it.
But like I I can see the value of it because like somebody,
just because Zack Snyder is someone who clearly has his own

(38:03):
artistic voice and it comes on his movies, which like I hate
was artistic voice is but at least it's something that's his
village voice wrote an article about fast and Furious 6 Justin
Lennon Volger I'll tourism because like fast and furious
got you know, after fast five came up, we actually started
critics start turning around liking these movies and Justin
Leonard already directed a few of these at this point.
So if you were like, oh, like Justin Linza, vulgar auteurist

(38:25):
as well. So like it's kind of coming
mainstream as is like, you know,franchise could these long
friendship going along and fast and furious movie, which is kind
of a it is a kind of a, you know, they aren't, you know,
traditionally they're consideredbad movies, but kind of like,
oh, these maybe bad movies are actually fun.
And as we start turning around about them and started because
of reappraising, Fast and Furious as well at Tokyo Drift

(38:47):
was one that everyone hated whenit came out, but people started
actually liking it when we went back to it.
Yeah, but then we sort of get tothe late 2010 sort of like
franchise of vacation. And I feel like the prominence
of vulgar altruism kind of like falls apart as we move into the
slop era. Like even like the later Fast
movies definitely fall victim tothat.
Like Fast X is kind of borderline.

(39:08):
Like I've watched that movie on like a Sunday afternoon on
streaming, which previous where previously I had been to like
every Fast and Furious, like opening weekend.
That one the the word was just so toxic.
And and yeah, it's like the vibewas toxic from when Justin Lynn
got fired and replaced with Louis Leterrier, who I have

(39:30):
heard stories about Leterrier onset.
He seems like a very well well liked person, well respected
person. And I'm sure he's a nice dude,
but I he was put in a bad situation and made a bad movie
there. And now it's like it looks like
the Fast series may just never be completed.

(39:51):
It may just end on a cliffhangernow.
It's supposed to go next year, apparently.
Allegedly. Like they keep saying that, but
like the reason why that Jurassic World movie came out
like this past summer was because they because Fastex kept
like not making any progress andthey rushed that into production
just so Universal would have a blockbuster for that slot.

(40:12):
Yeah. Like I have, I think it'll
eventually come out because there's so many contractual
obligations for it to come out. But like I have no hope of being
good. Yeah, because like Vin Diesel is
kind of a Sylvester Stallone type figure in a way where he
will do something that gets a lot of acclaim and then he'll
just trip on his own Dick for a for a project only he wants to
do. Like the most recent, like for

(40:36):
the most recent Vin Diesel project that has been announced
as a sequel to The Last Witch Hunter with Michael Caine.
Yeah, a bad. Pains coming retirement for it.
Yeah, a bad movie that flopped, but has done well enough on
cable and on streaming over the years that they think they can
make a new one for a lower budget and still get a decent

(40:58):
chunk of change. It that just screams like made
for streaming movie. It doesn't seem like a
theatrical release at. All like, yeah, it's like,
that's the thing. Like I remember reading the
Deadline article about it being so confused about its release
and about why it was being announced.
And it was like the movie has consistently done really well in
secondary markets over the years, and advances in
filmmaking technology mean that they think they can get it done

(41:18):
at a lower cost than the first film.
OK, I see that we I remember nothing about that first.
Movie like, that's the thing. Like I want, I wanted to love
that movie so much because at the time I was all in on Vin
Diesel silliness. But but it's just a big nothing
of a film. Like, there's stuff in there
that should work, but it just doesn't.

(41:41):
Yeah, because the movie is basically Vin Diesel's Dungeons
and Dragons sessions, so I was really hoping for it, but alas.
Meanwhile, like Michelle Rodriguez makes a Dungeons and
Dragons, maybe it's actually really fucking good.
Yeah, yeah. It's like I was surprised how
much I liked The Honor Among Thieves, the Dungeons and
Dragons movie, because like, I was a little scared for it from

(42:02):
the marketing materials because I thought it would maybe be a
bit overly glib. And there are moments I'm not
huge on, but at the same time, like it's a decent little movie,
pretty entertaining. I still see people talking about
that Jonathan guy on social media sometimes.
Yep. Um, yeah, so back up with the

(42:23):
ultra theory stuff. So so the tractors will tour
theory have always said, like films are collaborative effort.
So it's silly to apply to sign like one person to be the author
for it, which like I understand that argument.
At the same time, like you look some like Wes Anderson, like
clearly like that's a Wes Anderson movie.
He cat he gets his right production people in place
there. So western movie looks just like

(42:45):
a western movie. The characters of vulgar tour
theory. They argue that there's nothing
within the original prayers or theory to say that movie has to
be good or has good intentions for it to be or claims to fit
within the mold, which I totallyget.
I absolutely agree with 100% that alter theory does not mean
that you have to be a good filmmaker.
But I think Vogel territory is afun way to kind of be captured

(43:06):
and reclaim some previous director.
Is that like a, you know, because like Sony movies
nowadays, like with the Marvel movies, like I, I hate to always
harp on Marvel movies, but there's the biggest movies out
there, like my favorite ones in the bunch of stuff like
Guardians of the Galaxy with with James Gunn, because clearly
James Gunn movie or Iron Man 3, which is clearly Shane Black
movie. I like here like seeing film
makers actually make moves within their own system, like

(43:29):
within the system like it's. It's like that was the thing for
a long time, sort of like the Defenders of Marvel stud would
talk about how these directors would use these movies to get
clout to make other stuff but that hasn't happened as much.
Like you ask, Shane Black ended up making The Nice Guys which
underperformed and then he made that crap ass Predator movie and
now he's like limping back with a straight Amazon Prime movie at
10 years later. Like Ryan Coogler is really the

(43:53):
only one who has truly deliveredon that promise because all
James Gunn has done is just makemore superhero movies.
And some of these other directors like Near the Costa?
She's escaped from it. I've seen her on new movie
Hannah at play at TIFF. It's it's actually a lot of fun.
It's not like a mass we something like that, but it's

(44:13):
really, really fun comes on Amazon, I think next month or
something like that, but it's like it's based on a play I.
Figure out the place yeah I remember being at a cost to
talking about that when she was a guest on Blank check.
It's not even that I like even particularly like like me at
Acosta as a filmmaker like I have only seen her Candyman
movie, which I thought was whichI thought was bad.
But you take or a director like Chloe Zhao, who has only really

(44:38):
made one film I love, but which is the writer?
But she did Eternals and the movie underperformed.
Critics were like, huh, Really? And she's only now making her
new movie, which I know you saw and loved.
It's fucking incredible, Hamnet,it's so good.
Yeah. So it's like.
Probably should have made that movie off of no matter or like

(45:01):
made the movie off whatever she's doing before.
She's not need the Marvel clout to do so.
Yeah, it's like the argument is that these directors want to do
that kind of thing. We want to do that kind of big
budget thing. But at the same time, like
Marvel as a system has kind of built itself off of basically
like making a movie on rails with Kevin Feige as the primary
author. And when you do that, like you

(45:23):
have this sort of like perception that Marvel has
become like the slop that it's the tractors had already had
always thought claimed it had been, which wasn't helped at all
when they started making TV shows.
All of them were bad and that's sort of like took away from the
pipeline of the movies, which all started to suffer as a
result. Like Sam you, they dragged Sam

(45:46):
Raimi in to make the Doctor Strange sequel and basically
everyone who watched that basically just spent the whole
time waiting for Ramy to break out the Ramy stuff like I saw.
Two scenes are really. Good.
Yeah. It's like I remember watching
that movie in theatres for the first time and kind of giving it
a soft pass because I liked all the rainy stuff.
But then a friend dragged me to see it again.

(46:07):
And it turns out that when I'm not just sitting there waiting
for the right knee stuff to happen, that movie becomes
really fucking boring. It's very boring and and like,
yeah, so like what makes something like resume will
really pop out, though, is because there is a guy in charge
of this of this movie franchise and it's fascinating because
it's not the guy people in charge of like the video game

(46:27):
franchise. I feel like Paul Davis Anderson
golic creative control in a way that like no one else did and he
turned his iconography and just own little special beast.
Yes, like each Resident Evil movie just kind of like goes
into whatever direction Paul wants it to go in, like.
Which I absolutely, I see why fans, if you're a video game fan
and want to see your video game accurately depicted on the

(46:49):
screen, you're going to hate it.But if you're willing to kind of
like let let that go and like, like I want to see an action
movie done with some iconography.
I I kind of recognize it's fun. Yeah, it's like like Resident
Evil extinction. It's basically just like he want
Paul loves the Road Warrior and he wants to make one that's kind
of like the Road Warrior. And the The thing is like Final

(47:12):
Chapter came out after Fury Roadand everyone was claiming that
it was biting Fury Rd. style. But that movie like shot before
Fury Rd. Came out and but at the same
time you watch Paul's Monster Hunter movie and that movie is
definitely indebted to Fury Roadto.
Absolutely. That Monster Hunter movie
fucking rocks by. The way I I've I've never played
second of a Monster Hunter videogame.

(47:33):
That movie I think is a total blast.
I. Have some very limited
experience with playing Monster Hunter.
That movie is basically what playing Monster Hunter is like.
Yeah, So with Resident Evil likeas like a movie, so I guess the
too long didn't read comes like applying this auteur theory,
vulgar tour theory to Resident Evil.
Is that like, you know, ResidentEvil was very malignant first
came out, but by the time the 5th movie resident retribution

(47:55):
arrived like a law filmakers whoare over making a lowbrow art
were really elevated with the think piece age of the 20 tens.
And if you were talking movies are positively rather like
ripping on them. Like these movies have always
had their fans. These moves made a lot of money
each time. So but like when it came to like
people discuss thing on social media or writing articles about

(48:15):
them, resin evil started really popping up around then as being
like people should really consider.
So yeah, we're pretty far into this right now.
Let's get into the actual movie itself.
So the video game came on at 1986 on the original PlayStation
film. Rachel sold immediately after
George Romero wrote several drafts for the.
Yeah, it's like, I believe he was hired to make a film because

(48:36):
he had directed a commercial forthe game in Japan.
Correct. Yeah, I think it was commercial
Resident Evil 2 in Japan. Yeah, and his script is out
there like it is. Yeah, it's in the script leak
parts of the Internet. I have not read the whole thing.
I know it made some very interesting decisions.
Like I know it makes one of the main characters of the games a

(48:57):
Native American farmer. My God, I know there's like, I
think it makes like Chris, ChrisRedfield and Jill Valentine like
lovers or something, which is like not in the games and like.
But what I've gathered, it kind of does like sort of a similar
structure thing to the poem to the WS Anderson movie, where
it's about like sort of like thegeneral, like sort of like, OK,

(49:19):
we got guns, we gotta go inside this house.
Oh shit. What are these things that are
they zombies? I was riding with the with the
Romero script. So they actually made a
documentary called George A Romero's Resident Evil.
It came out early this year. It's two hours long and
apparently it provides like no real useful information.
It's just like a very like. Indulgent documentary.

(49:39):
I get it. Because, like George A Romero,
the king of the zombie. Movie.
He invented the genre of living dead.
Like that, Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like my
buddy Adam, who went to college at the University of Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh is where George A Romero lived for most of his
life. It's where he made a lot of his
movies. And there was a lot of love for

(50:00):
George Romero in the city of Pittsburgh, and he learned a lot
about Romero's life. Like Romero's family is making
the final installment of the of the Dead series called Twilight
of the Dead, which Miljkovic is actually going to star in.
That's cool. And he was like, oh, I'm glad
that George's wife is finally being able to get this one made

(50:20):
because they have been talking about Twilight of the Dead
forever. And Speaking of Romero, I
actually have Land of the Dead, which I have not seen yet in my
sort of, like, lead up to Halloween scary movie queue.
It's a good movie. Yeah, I'm really excited.
I've heard good stuff about thatone.
Of the three I've seen Night of the Night of the Living Dead,
Dawn and Day, I'd have to say that Night is my favorite.

(50:43):
I think that one is basically a perfect movie.
And I like Dawn of the Dead a fair bit.
Day of the Dead, I think has definitely gotten more shine
than previously in more recent years.
I date. That's my favorite of the bunch
for sure. Actually got to see in the
theatre earlier this year. I know Song Theatre last month.
It was incredible. Yeah.
Congratulations, you live in a place that gets Rep screenings.
Good for you. I love it so much.

(51:06):
Yes, like I got a buddy who lives in New York who's always
going to Rep screenings and I'vemade like I've made like a
recurring bit of just like sending him a screenshot of that
scene from orphan where as they're the orphan beats a lady
to death with her hammer. I have so many versions of that
image where it's just like thereare more arms with more hammers.

(51:28):
The image gets deep fried there.Someone, my buddy Sin made a
edit of that sort of heart Locket gift that on one side is
as there's space and the other one is the hammer.
I've also gotten good use of theshop where Esther has a gun.
Every. Watch that movie for Halloween.
That'd be a good one. Orphan rips man like always.
So stupid. I've seen vulgar Altair

(51:49):
arguments for Yome Colette. Sarah too.
Oh my. God, oh God, I have a lot of
content I could potentially do with that.
Yeah. But yeah, no, there was with
that Romero's draft. Is that because he were like 6
drafts and at that point Resident Evil 2 and 3, the video
games are in production. So like it went from being a
something to adapt and had one installment and like no

(52:09):
continuing lure to being now a three video games with actors on
continuity. So at that point, like the
series is evolving, change materials change.
So like Romero was out at this point and eventually Paul Davis
and tickets signed on to direct.And like he had previously made
a Mortal Kombat, which talked about today, which is like the
first that along the Street Fighter, the only field game was

(52:32):
actually made money at this point in time.
So you can see why Anderson probably picked because Mortal
Kombat some more, you know, violent than Street Fighter.
And also, Paul was coming off ofSoldier with Kurt Russell at the
time, which is a movie, right? Yeah.
Ever seen that movie that does have its fans, but it did sort
of underwhelmed financially? It's not, it's not one of my

(52:53):
favorite movies of his, but it'sgood.
And I understand the appeal because Kurt Russell is
phenomenal in it. And also another funny thing
about this movie is because it'ssupposed to be pretty closely
talked about, this could be canonical to the video games.
The initiative is gonna be ResinEvil, Ground Zero and then.
Let me guess why they got rid ofthat part of the title.

(53:16):
Yeah, so George W Bush did 9/11 and then yeah.
That he personally poured jet fuel onto those steel beams or
whatever the OR whatever the loose change people believe.
Yeah, yeah. So they got rid of that.
I think they kind of scrapped usbeing canonical to the video
games too, which like, yeah, So yeah, let's let's go to the
movie itself. So the intro pops up, we talk

(53:39):
about our ray with the introduction about Jason Isaacs
reading with the umbrella Corporation, how like 99 out of
every 10 homes contains products.
So basically like smart Amazon, really.
So the reason why it's got Resident Evil, which is a very
goofy title in Japan, the video games called Biohazard.
But due to a hardcore band from New York City as well as another
video game called Biohazard, they came the more unique name.

(54:00):
They ran like an internal the company contest in Japan at a
Capcom. Then they came up with a
Resident Evil because the first video game takes place in the
house. So, and I guess traditionally
zombies are evil, yeah. Depends on who you talk to.
Yeah. I mean, they do eat people.
They do, yeah, but this is insane.

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It's not because they're morallyevil, is what their instinct is
to do. Yeah, it's like there's a whole
big monologue about that. Anyways, the next scene
basically like the opening narration is immediately
followed up by the first shot ofthe movie starting like at Ant
size and then blowing up to the rest of the frame.

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There's there was some talk by Anderson about why after making
all of his movies in sort of 2.35 wide screen, that he opted
for 1.85, which for for ResidentEvil, he said is partially sort
of like more easily give a senseof claustrophobia because of a
taller, better aspect ratio, which, yeah, that works.

(55:03):
When the rest of the movies pivot to being more
straightforward action, they go to 239 scope, which, Yeah, this
has been aspect ratio talk. I.
Think I'm excited all this keep going.
Yeah. It's like I think a lot about
aspect ratio because it's alwaysbeen something that's fascinated
me and also it's something that has annoyed me on multiple
occasions. Like I'm all those people like

(55:23):
you know how like wide screen movies will get like cropped for
to fit like a 16 by 9 TV? Once I noticed that I couldn't
fucking stop and my brain gets really specific about how I
watch movies because of this. I saw this movie called Charlie
Harper at TIFF. It's with Nick Robinson and

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Emilia Jones is basically a romantic drama kind of thing.
And the very first question someone asked was what aspect
ratios and the film makers were just like sell it on cloud 9 to
answer the question. So if you ever do a Q&A and
notice a film like you know something with the acid readers,
definitely ask the film makers because they will love and
appreciate you asking them aboutthat.

(56:04):
Yeah, me just walking up being like, OK, so 1.66 to 1,
interesting choice. What was the reason for that?
Yeah, something as simple as that.
Yeah. Because like it.
Yeah, it is something that they take a lot of consideration
into, like when it comes to how they frame a movie.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's likeI did Community College, film
school pretty recently and we all got the opportunity to.

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We got put in groups and we useda a bowl like 16mm camera to
shoot stuff with using the full frame aspect ratio because that
because that was what the film does, like shoot 1 to 1.33 to
one traditional 4 to 3. And it was so fun doing that.

(56:47):
I had so much fun framing this stuff.
And it's also kind of interesting because the stuff I
shot on that 16mm film like straight up looks like the movie
Skinnamarink. Oh my God.
Anyways, yeah, so the zoom with the lab, we see we're talking
like. So when the zoom into the lab,
it's a scientist like that kind of suit.
There's controlling robotic armsmoving vials around.

(57:08):
It's like some of the valves like a green Helix, some of the
valves like a blue Helix. And then someone takes the blue
vial and whips it against the wall, breaking it.
And we see the ventilation roomslike suck it all.
Out, yeah. And then it just kind of like
goes into an office space that just appears to be like any
other office space. Some people are in an elevator,
some people are in a lab, and then everything shuts the fuck

(57:31):
down. An alarm goes off sprinklers are
going off asses is happening at the surveillance cameras are
looking at people and like you know their umbrella corporations
surveillance cameras you see like they're what the whoever is
watching the camera seeing so like they're clearly being
monitored and watched as is happening at this point a bunch
of scientists crowded the elevator and everyone is just

(57:54):
like, you know freaking out there one that elevators like
breaks and falls and there was like.
There's a lab room flooding. People are trying to like knock
out the windows with an axe because the doors are locked.
And the commentary, Paul DouglasAnderson mentions that he was an
elevator accident as a kid. So he that's what he
incorporated this movie. He's kind of his fear of
elevators. And as this has happened,

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there's a gas getting put into the lab too, which is killing
much more scientists too, in theelevator, like between floors.
So they crack the door open. They see a bunch of dead
scientists. So one lady tries to escape.
So she tries to crawl her way through this little hole gap
between the elevator there and then the cameras watching it.
And I think they control the elevator.
So the cameras like raises itself up.

(58:40):
So you think she's going to, youknow, get her head to captain
and she's totally fine. And there's like slams down and
then just cuts to black. Rape, Death.
At this point we get the 1st of this movies many this movie
series is many scenes that startwith Alice, played by Milla
Jovovich, opening her eyes. An interesting thing I didn't

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realize until after I had seen acouple of these movies.
Alice's name is never said in the film, you only see it in the
credits. And I was like waiting for it
was like, when do the colour Alice?
And it's not in the movie, no. Yeah, it's like the first time
the character is referred to as Alice is the name is Alice.
I used to work for the Umbrella Corporation.

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Monologue that. In the sequence.
In the second film and then kindof becomes fully standard to the
series after that. So I smell Yovich, you know,
she's blonde, naked, she's beautiful and she's waking up at
a shower and a very fancy bathroom and she doesn't know
where she is. She's like doe eyes like looks
like a deer in the headlights. She looks in the mirror.

(59:44):
She's confused with who she is. She has amnesia.
Clearly we get little cuts and flashbacks.
The flash was bit desaturated and yeah, so she's trying to
remember who she is and such. And yeah, she walks through the
bedroom, there's a dress put outfor her, there's a handwritten
note that she does her own handwriting to test if it's her

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and. Her handwriting.
That is a very interesting way of writing a tea.
Did you notice that? It's not.
It's weird. Yeah, yeah.
It's like that really fancy medieval text, you know?
I mean, I guess you get taught to write different because like,
she was born in Ukraine and grewup in.
East in the Soviet Union, yeah. And then she like, goes through

(01:00:28):
the drawers and finds one that has guns in it.
Which doesn't come back. Yeah, it's just like, wait a
fucking minute, where these gunsdoing here?
Well, I know the password to getto these guns so well.
Well, like a bunch of guns with like, a password, like a lock on
it. That's very much a video game
thing. Like, it's weird.
Doesn't come back at all. So she puts on this red cocktail
dress that was laid out for her,but some of these very, very

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tall black boots, like she's going to go to a concert.
Got that look is fucking incredible.
That's good that that looks still would slay to this day.
Especially later on when she gets the leather jacket.
Like if Mila Jovovich just like went to an event in London and
walked a red carpet wearing that, everyone would lose their
fucking shit. Exactly.
Yeah. Like it looks really good.

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Like she. Could go to the Met Gala wearing
that and everyone be like ohhhhhslay queen.
Yeah, so she's wandering this mansion and actually they filmed
this man. So they filmed this movie in
Berlin and this mansion was actually an old Nazi Barrick's
that have been captured with theSoviets.
And oftentimes they, like, you know, the actress be on set
there and, like, Steve, like, you know, Nazi swastika is like,

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engraved places. And they all seem like Soviet
hammer and sickles, like, engraved over them and stuff
after the Soviets took it over. Yovich also claims that she saw
some beware of mines signs, likeland mines around the place
they're filming, too. Yeah.
Given that Paul WS Anderson doesn't, it doesn't exactly have
a spotless record as far as onset safety goes.

(01:01:54):
They got they got lucky. Yeah, because that was the
Resident Evil 6, the final chapter.
That was the very last one, which was shot on the lowest
budget in South Africa. And Milla Jovovich, someone,
someone, someone, someone died after being crushed due to a
crane malfunction. And, you know his stunt double.

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Due to a last minute camera change by Anderson that hadn't
been coordinated to the rest of the crew, the stunt double ended
up having to get her arm amputated and won a big lawsuit
against Anderson and the films other producers.
Yeah. Like, so like, as much as I love
this man's filmmaking and I loveMilla Jovovich, I am hesitant to

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necessarily say he's a good person.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that storieslike that are awful to hear.
Like like. He's made two movies sense, and
if any horrifying crew accidentshave happened, they were not
publicized and Dave Bautista waswilling to work with him.
So Dave Bautista, famously a guywho if he hates somebody, he

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will be very open about it. Absolutely, yeah.
I'm not going to like say he's apositive person or anything, but
I am going to say that as far aslike safety goes, maybe ask some
questions if you're going to work with him.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, as she runs into some
generic looking white dude with gelled hair.

(01:03:21):
I'm gonna be real, I forgot thatguy's name.
I just started calling him ThickNeck Nick.
Yeah, so the characters name is Matt Addison.
He's played by Eric Mabius. Um, I can't think this guy looks
like Angel from Buffy. He looks like David.
Like I think David Boreanaz was supposed to.
Be in. He was supposed to play this
guy. Yeah.
And instead they cast a guy. And instead they cast Nick.

(01:03:44):
Nick. Nick got it.
So he's this guy's an ugly Betty, but nothing else really.
This guy's a nothing of it. I mean, I'm sure he still gets
like decent residual checks. Likely Betty ran for how many
years? I like only like 3 or 4, I
think. Yeah, but still like that was me
actually get residuals from a from TV shows.
Yeah, that's when people actually got paid.

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And like the problem with this Matt guy is that like everyone
is white guys looks the exact same this movie.
It's really hard to tell them apart.
Yeah. It's like there's like one of
the OK, so after thick neck Nickshows up, the Marco Beltrami and
Marilyn Manson score kicks in. It goes so.

(01:04:25):
Hard, Yeah. It's like, like noted, terrible
person Marilyn Manson, obviously.
But unfortunately there are a couple of Marilyn Manson songs I
really enjoy and like. His contributions to the
soundtrack are actually really fun and interesting.
Actually being far away from Resident Evil, like looking at
like the new metal music of it all is so much fun because it's

(01:04:46):
like, this was the era where music where music from.
Inspired by the film soundtracksReigned Supreme and the first
three Resident Evil sound films all had these song soundtracks
and I have the track list for the.
Residential song soundtrack. Pulled up right now.
The movie had the There are cutsfrom the score in there.

(01:05:07):
The Red Queen theme by Beltrami.All of the Marilyn Manson's cuts
for the score in here. You also have a Marilyn Manson
solo track called The Fight Songthat is that was remixed by by
Slipknot. Who's has the same fight song?
Hillary Clinton. Used for her campaign.
Fuck you. But yeah, Slipknot is the very

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first song that plays after the movie cuts to credits.
The song My plagues a new mix apparently done for the film.
After that is a song by the bandCoal Chamber, who were kind of
like C tier in that in the new metal boom, this is probably the
only Coal Chamber song I've everheard.
And then after that is is a different mix of a song by the
band Fear Factory, who are stillpretty well respected.

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Other acts on the soundtrack, The Crystal Method, who I think
are an electronic group. Oh yeah, they're pretty big
around that time. Adima who were like sort of like
a band I know the name of but nothing else.
A Static X who are still going and still touring pretty well
even after their singer Wayne Static passed away.
Rammstein who are still very popular.

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I could only find this soundtrack track list on a
Rammstein fan wiki. A song by Depeche Mode, a a
famous music nerd's favorite band.
Not a band I have delved deep into though.
A lot of the friends of mine whoare like super big into like 9
Inch Nails and type of negative and shit, they all love Depeche

(01:06:34):
Mode, the song by El Nino, who wore a metal band.
I think they got a Grammy nomination at one point and that
was kind of the height of their career.
A remix of Dig by Mudvayne, one of the new metal classics.
And in metal circles, Dig is a bit of a meme because of the
opening baseline. Specifically the phonetic

(01:06:56):
pronunciation of the baseline. Burper Dang Method Man song the
rapper method. Nice Saliva, who were another
kind of like CBT or Hard Rock new metal band.
They had a they had one fairly big hit that still gets played
on rock radio, Click Click boom.And their singer Josie Scott was
on the lead single for the Spiderman soundtrack with Chad

(01:07:18):
Kroger. The hero who saved.
Me save us. Not gonna stand here and wait.
And then there's something by a band I've never heard of called
5.0. And then it's back to the score.
Like if I had to like, rank the movies based on like, actually
you know, I'll save that for future episodes.

(01:07:38):
Anyways. This was the golden era of the
song soundtrack. We were all a year away from the
release of the Best Song soundtrack of all time, which
was the Daredevil soundtrack. Oh yeah, I had that one.
Yeah, Daredevil soundtrack fucking rules.
There was also like Wind Up Records did, which was a fairly
prominent Hard Rock label for a while.

(01:07:59):
They did a couple Marvel movie soundtracks around that period.
They did one for that Thomas Jane Punisher movie that kind of
hit, that kind of whipped. There were.
There was one for the first Fantastic Four.
I don't know if Wind Up Records handled the soundtrack to the
soundtracks for the rainy Spiderman movies, but those all
had notable soundtracks. I love those Spiderman

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soundtrack so. Much.
Yeah. It's like I saw Dashboard
Confessional live a couple yearsago and Vindicated was the
second to last song. Played in nice.
Chris Carrabba did a whole bit about how Toby McGuire called
him and said we're bringing backyour song.
Spiderman 2 is my favorite superhero movie.
Like that is just like. And that soundtrack really adds
to it too. Like for me, it's for me, it's

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one that does have a song soundtrack, but in a completely
different method. My favorite superhero movie is
Batman 89 with the Prince soundtrack.
Yeah, but the Prince soundtrack.U.S. soldiers just burst into
the house. The main soldier, played by
British character actor Colin Salmon, who has one who has an
incredible voice and an incredible.
Such a good voice. Yeah.

(01:09:01):
Then my notes too. Like he.
Yeah, very. Starts talking to Jovich Manning
a report. And it's.
What's your report, soldier? Yeah, his name is a James Shade
got. Shade is my middle name like
when I like when you fun facts when you legally change your
name of the United States, whether it's your first your
last name, you can change your middle name for free.

(01:09:22):
Nice, so that is how I legally became made Mave shade.
Last name redacted. Uh, but yeah, a different
soldier, I forget who. I think it's either the one who
really looks like David Boreanazor JD.
The Latino soldier is like she'sstill suffering the side effects

(01:09:46):
of the defence mechanisms. Yeah.
So it turns out this, so we findout like at some at some point
that the defence mechanism is that there's some gas was vented
into knock people out and the side effect is amnesia.
So also, OK, so it's it looks like I'm pretty sure it was
Martin Cruz as the Kaplan character who's kind of the tech

(01:10:07):
guy. Yeah, Kaplan is what I refer to
the notes as the other guy. He's the other notable white.
Guy in this movie. Yeah, let's see.
Let's see. Martin Cruz?
Did he do anything? Wow.
His very next movie, three yearslater, was the Dead or Alive
movie. Oof, that movie was very bad.
Yeah, and he appears to mostly be a theatre actor.
Yeah, on Colin Salmon. He's also a he's a bunch of the

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Pierce Brosnan James Bond movies.
He's like one of the MI 6 like he's like MG dentist underling,
but also part of this that crew 2 is Michelle Rodriguez as rain
Ocampo. Yeah, Michelle Rodriguez is one
of my favorite people. Like something Michelle
Rodriguez and Milla Jovovich kind of have in common is that

(01:10:50):
they play so many like steely hard asses on film, but they are
super bubbly and funny in person.
Like I like, I have a friend whomet Michelle Rodriguez when he
was working for like Good Morning America or the Today
Show or whatever, and he said that Michelle Rodriguez was
maybe the single most horny person he had ever met.
He apparently spent She apparently spent the entire time

(01:11:12):
hitting on one of his fellow. PA, That's awesome.
Yeah. Michelle Rodriguez is maybe
Hollywood's most bisexual human being.
Yeah, I remember, like A cause. Like, I'm a huge lost fan, so
I'm like, you're always lost part of like, oh, like Michelle
Rodriguez, is she gay or not? Like, Yeah.
And it's like, yeah, she end up being bisexual and like, yeah.

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But in her movies, like, she's like, she truly is an actress.
Like, I do like her presence in movies.
She has one mode, but I think her one mode is pretty
entertaining. Yeah, I think within that mode
she's able to do a lot with it. Yeah, and she's been in a lot of
movies I really like, and I've always, and I always enjoy
seeing her in those movies. Like I rewatched Avatar pretty
recently. She's very good in that first

(01:11:56):
Avatar movie, though. She's very much a supporting
role. We also have to say that out
with Speaking of Avatar is that James Cameron said that this is
Resident Evil is one of his guilty pleasure movies.
Yeah. It's like James Cameron was also
kind of like he was asked about Alien versus Predator, which was
Paul WS Anderson's next directorial effort.
The thing is, Cameron and Ridleyhad been trying, apparently

(01:12:17):
trying to get something in the works to, like, collaborate on
an Alien project, but they both kind of dropped it when Alien
versus Predator was announced. And Cameron was like, you know,
I didn't think it was that bad. I thought it was better than
three. I thought it was better than
resurrection, which I'll give him.
It's better resurrection. But this was back when it was
cool to shit on Alien Three. Yeah.

(01:12:38):
Nowadays the Alien 3 is, I think, fully reclaimed,
including by me. I think that.
Movie is great. It's good.
Yeah. And like, yeah.
So like, also like another reason why people don't like
politics intersects. Well, because in people's minds,
he ruined Mortal Kombat, he ruined Resident Evil, he ruined
Alien, he ruined Predator. So here's a guy that people
thought like, does not understand the works at all.
But like, you know, there. He's makes fun action movies.

(01:13:02):
So like, if you're looking for afun action movie, those are
fine. But if you're looking for the
best adaptation ever to turn your video game to cinematic
arts, like, no one's going to dothat.
Like, yeah. And also, if you ask me, like
the thing that a lot, I think ifyou asked a lot of video game
fans what they'd want out of a film adaptation, they would say
something along the lines of just take the story from the

(01:13:23):
game and film it. And the issue with this is that
a lot of video game stories are basically just like a very
generic film stories where the hook is that you are playing
them. That is kind of why an Uncharted
movie was always sort of like going to be kind of an artistic
failure because you can make a fun adventure movie.

(01:13:44):
But because Uncharted is pullingso much from stuff like the
Tintin comics and the Indiana Jones movies, any way of making
an Uncharted movie is just goingto feel incredibly derivative of
these other things that Uncharted was based on but was
able to get away with him. Video game form because the

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interactive elements. That is why the best video game
movies are the ones that kind ofstray from it.
It's like why the only big Hollywood attempt at Pokémon was
Detective Pikachu, because you kind of can't do the standard
Pokémon story in film form without it feeling incredibly
without either making it episodic, which is why Pokémon

(01:14:25):
works best in TV as far as adaptation goes, or just boring
this fucking shit. It's why you can't make a live
action Yugioh movie for example.Yeah, I guess the reason why I
think that that Tomb Raider movie, the Leash of Candor, I
like that one a lot because it was like pretty much what
Uncharted should have, which is like we're just doing a basic
action adventure and like, yeah,I kind of messed with that Tomb

(01:14:47):
Raider movie a little. Yeah.
Because it is just like the gameis based on itself.
The Tomb Raider reboot from like2013 is pretty much just in.
It's very cinematic anyway. So they pretty much took that
game put into movie form, simpleas that.
But like Resident Evil as a video game, it's a lot of like
trying to get a key in one place, go from like, you know,
one hallway to another, backtracking a lot, conserving

(01:15:07):
ammo, solving puzzles, reading notes.
Like it's not very cinematic at all.
And they tried out. So after they made all these
live action movies they tried toreboot and resume with me called
Resident Evil. Welcome to Raccoon City where
they pretty much try to wrap putresemble one video games plot
with residual 2 game plot to onething and it's very bad.

(01:15:28):
Yeah, it's like, I didn't see that movie because I was kind of
as a fan of the Neil Jovovich movies, I was offended at its
existence. But it also, like from the
marketing, seemed very sweaty. Like it seemed very like this is
clearly so we can keep the rights and also just seemed to
be like, we can pander to the gamers.
Let's pander to the gamers. Like I remember like one of the

(01:15:51):
actors going on fucking Rooster Teeth to play some of the
Resident Evil games. And I mean, like, yeah, we
recreated this for the movie. Yeah, we recreated this from the
movie. Yeah, we recreated this from the
movie. And it's like when you are
sending your actors to God damn Austin, TX to do stuff with
Rooster Teeth, you are like kindof especially like 2021 Rooster

(01:16:12):
Teeth when the when it's kind oflike in decline.
Yeah. When you when it's like in the
way out, it's like, what are youdoing, man?
You are cooked. You are done.
You are finished. And listen to the audio
commentary. This movie, what he was adapting
to it. This is like it is a lot of
people walking down hallways. But also like he's like Resident
Evil had like has like fixed camera angles.

(01:16:33):
So like he tried to do the weirdcamera angles maybe, which he
does a lot in this, which kind of looks pretty interesting
points. A lot of like the designs are
from the game too. So he was adapting a lot of
things from the game. So it's not like he was a
completely ignoring the text. It's just that he was taking the
basic elements like camera angles, designs, character

(01:16:54):
motivations and just keeping like, you know, Umbrella
Corporation as as like an evil institution, like putting those
in there and not being beholden to like OHP.
But like at the three chorus mark, that's when like Jill
Valentine gave this key to BarryBurton kind of thing.
Well, because that's kind of boring.
Yeah. And.
Like something interesting that happens with the umbrella

(01:17:15):
corporation over the thing of the movies is that the movies
get a very anti corporate text that even when done with the
subtlety of dropping an anvil onit is still kind of like very
like, look, we we kind of live in a corporation driven dystopia

(01:17:36):
already. So it's very easy to look at
these movies and be like they predict the future, which is
obviously silly. But also, like, even in the
dumbest, worst parts of these movies, like the corporation,
the Umbrella corporation, being the baddies and how cartoonishly
evil VR, we kind of do live in an era where basically a lot of

(01:17:57):
the biggest companies in the world are just straight up doing
this shit. Like, maybe they aren't
developing zombies, but they're doing all sorts of other crazy
shit that shouldn't be fucking done.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Like, and it went surprisingly, they do develop zombies someday.
Yeah. It's like, what's that?
What's that tweet that everyone talks about?
Like, This is why, yeah, we've created the Torment Nexus from

(01:18:22):
the from the classic book. Don't create the torment Nexus.
Yeah. Like that is just Silicon
Valley's modus operandi at this point.
And yeah, and like, also great, like evil corporation, they
passed the next scene. So they go downstairs in the
mansion. There they find a train station.

(01:18:42):
So like the train takes you someplace.
So they get onto the train and they find another guy with
amnesia and. So Spence played by James
Purefoy. James Purefoy is one of those
guys who was almost the star a couple times.
Like he was originally cast as Vfor V for Vendetta and.
I guess he was on the showroom. Yeah, I guess very late in

(01:19:04):
production on V for Vendetta, like he had done a lot of the he
left six weeks in the filming and some of the bits in the
movie are just pure for his actions that were dubbed over.
But he ended up, but he was replaced by Hugo Weaving, who is
pretty magnificent in that movie, so.
Yeah, absolutely. This amnesia acts like Mila has
a flashback when she touches himand like, you know, they have

(01:19:26):
some sort of connection. She has a flashback or I'm I'm
married to this guy, but she looks at the wedding ring and
says underneath this is propertyof Umbrella Corporation.
Yeah, also, like I just looked at James, pure voice
filmography. He's going to be in that fucking
Masters of the Universe movie that's coming out next.
Year. Oh my God.
That movie. There have been attempts at
making a Masters of the Universemovie for like 15 years at this

(01:19:47):
point and the director is noted Nepo baby Travis Knight and the
cast is like I like some of these actors but they got Jared
Leto playing Skeletor so it's doomed.
They have fuel door in it who quelled Gwildor was in the he's
like a little like dwarf like Yoda thing and the mass of the

(01:20:08):
universe movie from the 80s. I.
Mean, I think it's an original character to that movie, but he
is like such an over the top like ridiculous character.
Yeah, I'm not seeing it, but they do.
But I am seeing Alison Brie as Professor Evelyn Powers slash
Evil Lynn, a dastardly sorceressand Skeletors Lieutenant who
poses undercover as a professor at Adams College.

(01:20:28):
So yeah, they're kind of doing the thing.
I guess The thing is that, uh, he man is human.
Half whatever the fuck. His dad is attorney or whatever
and crash landed on earth and two decades later he goes back
to whatever the fuck. This sounds stupid.
It's he, man. He has always been stupid.

(01:20:49):
Yeah, this just kind of sounds like like the great things, like
a lot of the movies, like a lot of blockbusters that are in
development for like 15 to 20 years.
The final script is always just a mishmash of whatever 15
different takes happened before that.
I would not be surprised if thiswas one of those things because
there have been so many different directors and so many
different actors attached to this.

(01:21:10):
Like apparently like they were trying to make this a vehicle
for Kellan Lutz for a while fromTwilight.
Oh my God, Him. Yeah.
I mean, I love the Twilight movies and I think what's, and I
think lots is pretty fun. And that is a sort of like goofy
long head. And he's had some pretty fun
comedy roles over the years, butthe attempt at making him an
action boy did not really work. It didn't work for Taylor

(01:21:34):
Lautner either. Yeah, laughter.
Honestly, I, I kind of envy Lautner's life because he just
has his money. He just hangs out with his
family. Yeah, I guess like, you know, be
friends with Taylor Swift too. Like it's spinner videos like.
Yeah, he's like known as Taylor's one good X.
Yeah. And and his wife, who is like a
registered nurse, has like has like a bunch of Instagram

(01:21:57):
followers and does brand deals pretty much entirely because she
is married to Taylor Lautner. Lautner did his first movie in
ages a few years ago. Like a Netflix on Netflix movie
that was about that was literally about shot what Sean
Payton did when he was suspendedfrom coaching in the NFL.
Was that Kevin James movie? Yep, Kevin James plays the real

(01:22:19):
Sean Payton coaching his coaching his sons middle school
football team after. Being suspended.
Suspended for putting bounties on players.
He should've been in jail. Like not suspended.
Like fuck that guy. Fuck the Saints.
Yeah, my mom is a Saints fan. My mom's family or Saints fans?
I'm so sorry. Look, my dad got to me first,

(01:22:39):
which is why I am a fan of the Indianapolis Colts and
organization that has never embarrassed me, not once.
Hey, there are three in one as of recording.
Yeah, we'll see how that keeps going.
Like we're in for listeners. We're in the same fantasy
football server. And when I was still kind of
being trying to be reserved after Week 1 where the Colts won

(01:23:00):
by 25 points, like people actually got mad at me for not
being happy that my team won by 25 points.
So I decided to try and be a little bit more optimistic.
And then I fully drank the the whole BM after Week 2 and like
look, I can tear apart the Coltsperformance in that game against
the Rams all I want all I want. But at the same time, like

(01:23:20):
losing to the Rams, like the Rams are a good team, there is
kind of no shame in losing to the Rams because the Rams are a
good team. Anyways, back-to-back to movies.
Yeah, so, so in this train, theygive scripture where they're
going. So they're like 2200 feet below
the surface, and they're going to a laboratory complex called
the Hive, which ran by the Umbrella Corporation.

(01:23:41):
So the mansion is a front seat, a talk, a top secret research
science facility that creates the bioweapons.
Yeah. So like the mansion is a front.
That's how people get to the research station from there.
They basically live down there. So this this hive is all
computer controlled and there's a.
Really fun little CGI map that keeps showing up and throughout.

(01:24:04):
Yeah, it looks like, it looks like the Metroid Prime map in
the game there. So it's yeah, cool 3D.
Looks like a very like low Poly drill.
Yeah. And yeah.
So unfortunately at this point in the movie, it's a love.
I'm just walking down various hallways, so kind of lose a lot
of the atmosphere the mansion had.
There's also like couples still like pretty cool creepy images,

(01:24:27):
like they like the flooded lab with the water dripping out of a
few axe holes and the corps of that one lady floating up, you
know? Yeah, and like they, because
they found this in Berlin and they use a real underground
railway stations that were beingrefurbished at the time.
So like they use real sets all the time too for these hallways,
which is kind of better. So we also learned from a Colin
Salmon that the hive is automated by computer system

(01:24:50):
called the Red Queen. And the Red Queen detected A
breach at start of the film and that's why she killed everyone
out prevent this virus from leaking out.
And if you couldn't tell at thispoint, but the main character
being named Alice and they're being an AI called the Red
Queen. This movie has a couple
allusions to the hit 2016 film Alice Through the Looking.
Glass, yeah, but it's over the top.
The Alice. Yeah, but Speaking of like, the

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way they get from the mansion tothe train is literally a door
masquerading as a mirror. Yeah, but who cares about
subtlety? It's a movie based on a video
game. They go into an area that they
think is a dining room but is actually like a bunch of weird
cages. And yeah.
And then after that, a few of them go to a while.

(01:25:31):
Michelle Rodriguez, the JD character who is played by some
guy who, Yeah, who cares? They stand behind to like, take,
take watch over thick neck Nick.But yeah, then we get to a

(01:25:51):
computer setup, a cool reflective hallway and a cool
reflective hallway that leads tothe sort of big computer tower
that the Red Queen lives in. And then we get one of the
coolest fucking things ever, which is that the hallway has
lasers in it. So the door closes behind them.
So it's like Colin Salmon, a fewsoldiers stuck inside.
It's like a Red Queen defence mechanism, which is metal is

(01:26:13):
shit. The Marilyn Manson music just
starts up again and goes full throttle.
Like whenever the Marilyn Mansonscore comes up, it just sort of
like takes over the entire sound.
Mix so the laser comes by straight down the hallway and it
cuts off one guy's fingers and awoman who's standing there.
Medically, the medic lady's entire.
Head yeah. So like, they like they think

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she's OK, but then she was just standing there, no response and
her head just slides right off of her neck.
So like 10s if you were freakingthe fuck out, people were trying
like, you know, use the computerto open the door as fast as they
can. It's not working.
So another laser pops up. The rated jump over at the laser
starts very low and as they jumpto dodge it, the laser just
raises right up and cuts the guyright in half.

(01:26:55):
Yeah, And then we get to the to it's just Colin Salmon, and he
manages to avoid a laser high upby like sort of laying himself
flat against the ceiling, but itcuts his knife and that's super
cool. And then the last laser just
turns into a grid covering the entire area and it makes him
into Colin Salmon cutlets. Yeah, he says.

(01:27:17):
Like, oh, shit goes right through him and he gets one
shot. It's like.
Ended like goes straight throughhis eye.
Too like so he got the shot so it's you see like half of his
head there and like you see likea like you know, red marks
across the like the focus racks to the background where Alice is
looking through the hallway dooras his body starts falling into

(01:27:37):
chunks. Because 1 great part where like
you see something white goo coming out of his eyeball and
before his whole bar is like slipping apart like it just
slide. All the cubes of those bodies
become just start falling apart and we see like in reflection
the background just like a body of like little cubes discussing
little bits of flesh there. This scene is so good that they

(01:28:00):
actually have it in residual 4 like the video game like they
actually like adapt the scene for the game too as a QuickTime
event which is really awesome. Yeah, because laser grid hallway
fucking rocks and. That's so cool.
And it becomes a recurring thingin some of the later.
Movies too and unfortunately without Colin Salmon like it's
just a lot of white guys are theexact same.

(01:28:21):
Can't tell them apart like I wish they.
It's like it's the amnesia crew,Alice and James, and the Kaplan
character who is the one who looks the most like Angel from
Buffy. Yeah, no match with those like
Angel from. Buffy the cop guy.
No Matt. Like Nick.
Nick. Nick looks way too doofy to be
Angel from Buffy. He hear you.
He has the hair. Like, yeah, he has the hair, but

(01:28:43):
his face looks like he's always sort of like being like, where
did I put my phone? And he looks like slightly
perturbed about it. Like he doesn't remember where
he put his Hot pockets. Either way, these guys just look
all the exact same. It's kind of unfortunate because
like Milla Jovovich has a great look to her and Michelle
Rodriguez is a great look to. They look very distinct.

(01:29:05):
They act very distinct, everyone.
And then you have James Purefoy,who's mostly wearing the grey
shirt. And then you have like after
this, it's just two Army people,JD the guy, JD and Kaplan, who
is, who's the tech guy and Kaplan and Alice, they they take

(01:29:27):
out the Red Queen who shows up as a computer hologram of a
little girl. With a very creepy like British
accent. It's like, oh, don't come in
here. There's a throwaway line that
it's like all the programmer made her look like his daughter.
Yeah, it's not actually that creepy, it just kind of more
goofy looking. Yeah, but you're all going to
die down here. Sounds like Hermione.

(01:29:52):
And it's like Amelia Yovich was saying that initially got an
American actress to to voice this girl, but like she was
saying her lines like I'm a verybad, bad girl and we like, it
sounded very pornographic. So I switched over to a British
girl, which is probably a good thing to do if, like you, think
this young child support is coming across too sexy in the

(01:30:13):
line readings. Yeah, it's like that is a very,
that is a very like American problem to have.
Yeah. And.
But the Red Queen basically tells him to fuck off.
Like, you know, don't come in here because, like, you know,
yeah, it's like. This is, yeah, it's like, it's
very dangerous, you know? But yeah, the everything reboots

(01:30:33):
and at this point the reboot, the electric reboot, causes all
the doors that are holding the zombies away to open.
And so yeah, now like 39 minutes, 39 minutes into the
movie and like an hour plus intoour pockets, we actually run
into a zombie for the first time.
Yeah, And like, the zombies do change over the course of the

(01:30:54):
Resident Evil movies because theperception of zombies in pop
culture kind of change changes. Like the Resident Evil franchise
is one of the things credited with bringing back sort of
zombies into the popular American consciousness after
some time where they just weren't as big of a cultural
deal. Like I think when the slasher
movie is sort of like became thepinnacle horror for a bit in the

(01:31:14):
80s and the 90's, the zombies kind of fell by the wayside.
But the few exceptions and but like a little bit after this
Resident Evil movie comes out, 28 days later comes out, which
is. The fast zombies.
Yeah, and then soon after, 28 Days Later, the Zack Snyder Dawn
of the Dead remake drops, and that one also has fast zombies
in it, and they keep with the slow zombies for two more films.

(01:31:37):
And then for Resident Evil Afterlife they go to the fast
zombies. So the first time it pops up,
Michelle Rodriguez is survivor because no one knows what
zombies in this world. And the zombie takes a big chop
out of her hand. And it's the first of many times
that Michelle Rodriguez gets bitin this movie.
You have. The funny thing I'm noticing
right now is that a lot of the actors created a zombies are

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just like Doctor Blank and it's all a colour.
The zombies are like Mr. Gray, Mr. Green, Miss Black, Doctor
Green, Dr. Blue, Doctor Brown. Like I guess based on eye
colour. And they also, they cast a
dancers to play the zombies because they want people who
knew how to like, yeah, because it's like very strict
choreographed zombie movement. So the zombie like, actually

(01:32:21):
pretty good. I don't think they linger on the
zombies enough. It's a lot of fast cutting at
this point because the commandosare all like, you know, gunning
down the zombies point in time. So they're all shooting a lot.
Yeah, Paul's a big fan of quick cutting.
Like there's a bit on his Resident Evil apocalypse
commentary where he's like, comeon, leave off fast cut movie
alone. More zombies arriving.
Michelle Rodriguez snaps a zombies neck, which is awesome,
but they're kind of confused whether not dying.

(01:32:43):
Like, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like they're shooting them
and what not, but it doesn't really seem to be stopping their
movements. Every character gets a little
bit zombie like. There's the bit where James
Purefoy can't open a door to tryand get out because he doesn't
have the code. Caplan tries to put in a code,
but he keeps trying to rush it. He's feeling like overwhelmed by

(01:33:05):
the situation because he took the death in the laser, the
deaths in the laser hallway pretty hard.
And then JD comes in to put in the code.
The door opens. There are more zombies that pull
that pull in JD. And which is a direct amash day
of the dead, which is awesome. Like he gets fucked up.
It was on rated R not rate NC 17.
So we see a lot of people getting eaten a ton like but

(01:33:26):
it's pretty we appreciate your way to go.
So at this point, everyone kind of scattered around.
So Alice is in a different room.She gets to a kennel by herself
and like there's some cages there goes some dogs have
clearly been their way out of the cages.
And here's where Alice has become the Alice I know and love
because up to this point she's basically just a deer in the
headlights. She does not look very exciting

(01:33:48):
to look at but actually chase mydog.
She closed door behind her, she's in room with a zombie and
she instinctively jumps and Roundhouse kicks the zombie in
the face. Then you get flashbacks being
like you are highly trained security operative who knows all
the fighting. And it's very much like, you
know, well, I know Kung Fu moment from the Matrix and it's
actually. Slowly goes because she doesn't

(01:34:09):
want to like, risk the zombie being dead to take the gun and
then she has to fight the zombiedog.
Apparently the zombie dogs kept eating their own makeup.
He's using like bits of meat andstuff on them.
And like, yeah, and there's likea little bit of CG touching up
done to like one of the dogs to like, make the deterioration
look kind of like more more specific.

(01:34:30):
But yeah, Alice has to fight a lot of dogs.
I don't remember if there was the American Humane Society
thing in the credits, but I haveto, I have to assume there was.
You assume. I have to assume no dogs
actually got. Hurt at one point.
So like there's a dog jumping through window.
Apparently was a real dog that got to jump through a window.

(01:34:51):
Yeah, I hope that dog got lots of treats and pets.
Yes, so. As long as you do, we speaking.
Speaking of, do we have the McCluskey report on Resident
Evil? She fell asleep right from the
subwoofer actually would not be going pretty loud too, so she
accepted the new. Medal.
God, that's the fucking life, Yeah.
So like, there's a lot of zombiedogs coming in.

(01:35:13):
She's like trying to fight them,shoot them with a gun.
Then she does this awesome kick where she jumps off a wall,
kicks in the face. Yeah, I'm seeing here that
Jovovich's martial arts trainingwas at least started under Robin
Show, who was Liu Kang and Paul Douglas Anderson's Mortal Kombat
movie. And like the Restless franchise

(01:35:33):
basically becomes her doing fight scenes like this, which is
awesome because like again, likeI this movie is fine.
I like the movies little later movies except for the second one
a lot more because I like the action movies that they become.
Uh, and yeah, you get, you get basically a taste of what these
movies are, which is just reallyJovovich as Alice, Alice doing
very, very cool things. And yeah, so that after this we

(01:35:57):
cut back to we see Matt there. He's trying to find his sister,
apparently. And it turns out his sister is
Robbie. Yeah, but also it turns out that
thick neck Nick and his sister are part of like some sort of
like anti corporate like whistleblower collective.
I'm just kind of imagining them being a part of like the leftist
army. And in movie I haven't seen yet
1 battle after another. I actually, I actually see it

(01:36:20):
tomorrow, by the way. Oh, fantastic movie.
It's a phenomenal. You'll like it.
Yeah, I've heard. But yeah basically like the
thick neck neck then starts talking to Alice after Alice
kills his zombie sister being like she had a contact in the
hive but she had to but the contact had to have betrayed her

(01:36:41):
because she's a zombie now. We were trying to take down the
umbrella corporation because theumbrella corporation fucking
sucks. Which hell yeah.
And then like Alice has a flashback to beat that reveals
that she was thick neck Nicks sisters umbrella contact and she
doesn't and she doesn't know if she was the one who betrayed her

(01:37:01):
or not, but she starts feeling guilt regardless.
And then everyone just kind of meets up with each other again.
They're like counting ammo. And Michelle Rodriguez's reign
is clearly blaming Kaplan for for all the zombies.
And like the, you know, they talked the Red Queen again, the
Red Queen tells. Me Yeah, they yeah, they reboot
the Red Queen and they're like, wait a minute, where the fucking

(01:37:23):
laser bodies go? Yeah, Yeah, good point.
And yeah, so zombification process, they have no
intelligence, these zombies theyhave need to feed.
So it's the T virus is turning into zombies.
Yeah, and that's the need to feed thing comes up.
We see that JD is a zombie now. Sucks for him.

(01:37:43):
And he came, as is happening. We keep getting show Michelle
Rodriguez's hand to imply that she's going to become a zombie
eventually and die. Now we get to which is always
the worst part of every residential game where they go
to the sewers as like a very sawry part was like, you know.
And they're just walking around.And then the zombies are like
oht hey food. Yeah, so.

(01:38:05):
It's another act, another actionthat happens.
Michelle Rodriguez gets bit again.
Kaplan gets bit a few times. So at this point, they leave.
Kaplan was like, hey, leave me behind in the sewers.
They give Kaplan a gun with one bullet in it.
And you think he's going to shoot himself, but he really
just shot a zombie. The best part of sequence was
Michelle right now. Sorry.
Emily Yovich grabs a pipe, pullsup and snaps the zombies neck

(01:38:29):
with her thighs. Yeah.
And a bit that always sticks with me is Michelle Rodriguez
just letting blood drip from a wound on on to some of the
zombies who are just like, like basically people just trying to
get the water in Fury Rd. But.
Yeah, and there's been a feedingfrenzy, which is almost like
taunting them. But knowing this would her fates

(01:38:50):
gonna be. It's really actually a really
nice scene for. Her yeah.
And then after that, like Alice gets another flashback and
remembers that there is actuallya cure for the T virus, which is
the zombie causing virus. He reveals the thick nick Nick
that he that she was her sister's contact and thick Nick
Nick is like, so you did betray her.

(01:39:12):
Yeah. Which, to be fair, it's not like
the It's not like Thick Nick. Nick has a particularly great
opinion of the Umbrella Corporation, which means he
probably doesn't have a great opinion of people who work for
them, which most of them are just trying to pay rent, dude.
But to be fair, if you are like a trained military operative

(01:39:33):
working for them, you are allowed to have a little bit
more sort of skepticism to get. But yeah, they tried to get the
cure, but then James Purefoy, his amnesia ends and he
remembers that he was the one who betrayed everybody.
It's so funny, that scene because like, it's like, you
know, the little flash drive we see is like him with like, a
distance microphone recording device, like spying them across

(01:39:55):
the. Yeah, yeah.
Listening to Alice just talking to Nick, Nick, Nick sister, like
somewhere in a field surroundingthe mansion being like.
I will get you the codes if you promise to take Umbrella down,
which that ain't much payment, man, but yeah, he then he then
has a night of hot sex with Milla Jovovich, then gets up,

(01:40:16):
goes down to the thing, grabs the T virus and the antivirus
throws a different sample of theT virus to release it to
everybody for reasons, I guess. And then he pulls a gun on
everybody and was like, I was the one who betrayed you.
And then you get to hear his accent slip a little bit because
he's like that bitch of a computer.
And he sounds like he's like he's trying to hide the British

(01:40:40):
accent, but it sounds like he's from Boston.
And it's like he's trying his typical villain kind of bullshit
where it's like you're like, oh,like is my motivation.
Motivations are pure. Yeah, and he's like, the cure is
on the train. It was there the whole time.
Yeah. That's.
Not and and then the water zombie from earlier shows up and
bites him. Which is good because come up

(01:41:01):
because he's gapping too much and so he gets mad and like he
leaves the room there goes it goes to the next.
He then goes like it runs off togo get the vaccine injection
himself with it. And then we see the liquor.
The liquor, yeah. Yeah, the liquor is apparently a
monster from the games. Yeah, it's a monster.

(01:41:22):
Starts off Residual 2 pops up there and it shows up the exact
same way as it does in this movie where it's like you
initially see it pop up on the ceiling there and then like it
goes down like starts eating him.
The cool thing the liquor in thegames is that the liquor is has
no has no eyes, so it can't see you.
So you have to be very quiet in the areas.
So if you're trying to run past zombies and stuff, you actually

(01:41:43):
can't run past it because you'llalert the liquor.
Yeah. But like the fun thing with the
liquor is that like obviously like in full body shots, it is
kind of primitive CGI on not toobig a budget, but there's some
really cool practical close up shots that get used.
Of these animatronics for it looks really awesome when it's
the close. Up, yeah, but I have to imagine

(01:42:05):
that you don't see the animatronics for like full body
motion because they're asking more out of the the Lakers
actions that could be done with prep done practically on that
budget. 100%, yeah. And it's also kind of revealed
you have the red Queens I've been a bad girl line and it was
revealed that she basically knewthe liquor existed the whole

(01:42:26):
time. She was just saving it till the
end so that they so that they would die in the T virus
wouldn't get out because that's still kind of what the red
Queens whole deal is. She shut down everything because
she couldn't allow the virus to escape the hive and she's like I
will let you out if you kill Michelle Rodriguez cause she's
infected and. I would just kill her.

(01:42:49):
Yeah, Michelle Rodriguez is like, come on, you'll just kill.
Me, but she's our friend, we mether an hour ago like.
To be fair though, you go fight some zombies with somebody who
escapes zombies with somebody. That's a bond.
I would rather just like, kill that friend, survive myself.
You know how awful is going to be just to.
Die. Yeah, but they're very mad at
the at the Red Queen because they don't trust her.

(01:43:10):
Which, to be fair, Yeah. And then?
But instead of killing Michelle Rodriguez, Leovich takes her
anger out on a TV screen. He takes an instead.
Like, yeah, And then the red andthen the Red Queen get through,
gets fried, and she's like, wait, did killing that screen do
it? And then it's revealed that
Kaplan caught up and killed the Red Queen.

(01:43:32):
Yeah, like, it's crazy that Kaplan lives like survive, First
off. And like I was able to make it
there in time, like, and it's kind of like, it's kind of
ridiculous. Yeah, but like, you think I
watched these movies for realism.
True. Yeah.
If I wanted realism, I'd finallystart watching Mike Lee movies.

(01:43:54):
Yeah, which I should probably dothat at some point.
I've only seen a hard truths oneI've seen but it's pretty.
Good. I have a copy of Happy Go Lucky
in my watch pile of unwatched movies.
So one of these days. But yeah, they get to the
platform, they get the cure, they shoot up Kaplan with the
cure, and they're going to shootup Rain with the cure.
But then rain and they do that, but Rain is dead and and and at

(01:44:18):
one point the Red Queen is like.With how long she's been bitten
for, there's no guarantee it would work.
And it. Comes back later when Rain turns
into a zombie on the train in the middle of a fight with the
liquor as the train is moving and there's a bit of a ticking
clock because they set up a bombso that if they don't get back
up there before the bomb goes off like the height like an

(01:44:38):
explosion happens and the hive gets sealed off forever.
They're on the train, the liquorattacks them.
It's a really fun action scene. Thick neck Nick gets stripped
down to his tank top, which God damn bro is fucking ripped.
Yeah, so the liquor scratches scratch seems to get 3 giant
scratch marks on his arm. And the liquor like mutates

(01:44:59):
whenever it eats humans. So there's some weird mutation
going on, but ultimately Allisonthick neck Nick get back to the
surface and. They they killed the liquor
because they so like this. It's like a yeah.
So they're finding liquor on thetrain there.
So there's a bunch of like pipesfor some reason, so.

(01:45:20):
Why don't you? Because you got a neat.
You gotta have pipes. Yeah, So all kinds of pipes in a
bundle there. Some they take the pipes, they
slam it against the liquor, which knocks it back.
Alex, one of the pipes and like slams against the Lakers tongue
pinning it to the ground. Michelle Rodriguez's point,
she's turned, so she starts attacking Matt and so Matt
shoots her in the head, which causes Michelle Rodriguez to hit

(01:45:42):
fall back hitting a button, which causes the floor on the
train to open up underneath the liquor.
So the liquors dragged underneath the train as the
trains like moving in full motion.
So with all the friction, the liquor set on fire and dies,
which is a really cool death. Yeah, and then they get back to
the surface. Alice is about to give thick
neck Nick the the vaccine and then RFK's anti vax police burst

(01:46:05):
in are like. You guys been taking Tylenol
lately? We can't vaccinate them is
mutating. I want him to nemesis program.
Yep. So which if you play resume with
three of your freaking the fuck up.
Oh my God. Nemesis program.
Yeah. So like as like as these times
are working like Matt there, there's like these worms coming

(01:46:26):
over like scratch wounds, which is really cool.
But but yeah, but yeah, basically like Alice's
tranquilized and brought to likea medical facility.
You see some shots of Jason Isaacs and Isaacs is like, we
get the team together, we're reopening the hive.
I need to know what went on downthere.

(01:46:46):
And then when I was fully wakes up, she's just alone in this
medical facility, mostly naked, ripping needles out of herself.
And she manages to work her way out of the facility, get sort of
like a lab coat on. She also has like walks.
Her look has changed too. Like, sorry, her attitude has
changed too, because she was like, you know, look all
confused. I don't know where she was kind

(01:47:07):
of thing. But now she looks a bit more
feral, more intense, more confidence like she looks like
she's a woman on a mission now. So like she's changed with this
journey and become like the person we see her to be, his
action heroine for the rest of the franchise.
Yeah, and then she gets out to. The streets of Toronto.
Well the street, well, I think well this set was I think like

(01:47:31):
built in Berlin. They just built like 1 like
apocalyptic St. and then they OK.
Toronto is actually listed as the Raccoon City location
because The thing is the movie did originally have a different
ending. Like the alternate ending is on
the disk and I think it's bad. And yeah, even on the Blu-ray
you see the, I think the the ending is like was ported from

(01:47:53):
like a VHS tape on that was in PAL format, which is 25 frames
per second because it looks off on the frame rate.
Yeah, so this alternate ending is like she like walks up to A
to a building, like a corporate building.
She gets inside look yeah, looking for the Nemesis program
and basically does the. The the big lobby gunfight from

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the Matrix setup. Just the setup though, not the
actual gun. Whole gunfight we don't get that
big action sequence. Yeah.
But so they, I guess that's why the ending was reshot in Toronto
because at that point, like I think Screen Screen Gems, their
facility was at least in Wilmington, NC, I have to assume
their business basis was in LA, but Toronto is a big sort of

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industry centre for, for film like internationally, so.
And they film the second movie. Mostly, yeah.
The 2nd, 4th and 5th movies all shoot in Toronto.
And though the 5th movie also has like some international
shooting as well. Like they shot like they
actually shot stuff in Tokyo andMoscow and New York for it,

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though I have to imagine it was just sort of like plate shoots
and the rest was done in Toronto.
And it's actually a pretty good ending, honestly.
Like, yeah, because it's a good shot.
It's a good shot. That really nice theme music
plays underneath it and it both kind of like and it's very
obviously a SQL setup, which kind of becomes a thing for the

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Resident Evil movies. All of them have a big sequel
set. Up at the end, yeah, because
like at this point, like the thevirus is no longer just contains
one facility. It's now hit the urban areas.
You know Alice has the shotgun now she cocks the gun.
Camera zooms away. Film ends.
You know she's ready to take on the next challenge with pops up
next and fight more zombies and my Plague by Slipknot starts

(01:49:43):
playing. Yeah, and the credits play and
you hear all the best new metal and alternative metal that 2002
had to offer. It's a nice 100 minutes of your
time. Yeah, it's a it's a solid movie.
Yeah. So like, yeah, so, so Resident
Evil made $103 million off of a $33 million budget.
They made five sequels. We've talked about each one made

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more than the last. Paul WS Anderson's not back to
the second or third movie as a director.
We still involved as a producer and a writer, I believe, and.
Then he returns to direct in like I think he had initially
intended to return to direct fortwo and three, but he had gotten
hired for Alien versus Predators.
SO2 gets handled 2 career secondunit director Alexander Witt,

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and for three he gets the Death Race remake going.
So he hands the reins to RussellMulcahy, the great 80s trash
alter Highlander Razorback, which I haven't seen, of course.
Ricochet. Ricochet is good.
Yeah, Ricochet is fucking bonkers.

(01:50:48):
Like, have you ever watched, Didyou ever watch Blowout by Brian
De Palma and wish there was moreaction in that?
It was trash here and weirder. Yeah, watch Ricochet and also
gets naked. OHT yeah, like very early on in
the movie, and everyone sees it like it's a plot point that's on
the news. Yeah, he gets in his underwear
to stop John Lithgow from shooting up.

(01:51:09):
Like a festival or something. It's like a carnival or
something. Yeah.
And he's like, what do you mean cops don't get a free Pepsi
anymore? Yeah.
So yeah, also with these movies too, is that Paul WS Anderson
starts dating Mila Yovich after this movie.
Yeah, there's like the time engaged for awhile.
There's a little bit of time where they break the engagement,

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but then they get back together,They start having children.
They they currently have three daughters, all of which look
exactly like Mila. Yeah, the one of the daughters
played the young Natasha Romanoff and Black Widow, and
she's also in the last Resident Evil as the Red Queen.
Oh, right. Yeah.
And so these movies like what I like best about the later movies

(01:51:51):
is that you get a director who clearly loves the actress he has
in the movie because they're literally married and he thinks
I have a very, very hot wife, a very cool wife.
I'm going to shoot her in the coolest way possible to show off
the world like how what I think is like her best qualities.
So it is like it's a loving kindof thing.
It's not really, it's like it's a very sexy performance, but

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it's not very male gazey. It's like not very perverted in
how sexualized the character is like the character because like
it's not like fully as. Nudity nonstop, yeah.
It's like there are scenes in 2-3 and Five where there's a
pretty where Mila does get pretty stripped down and Five
has her just straight up in likea BDSM get up that gets called

(01:52:35):
out by a character in the film. Yeah, and.
But you feel like it's like, youknow, like, like, I don't know,
like I'm trying to be like some like David Ayer thing where the
cameras like shoved up her ass and stuff like, you know, really
show off her figure something. No, we're going to have her like
be still have be a character with agency doing cool things.

(01:52:55):
And it's not like, you know, she's, she's never a damsel.
Like, yeah, and you go to Monster Hunter and In The Lost
Lands, the two movies that Paul Anderson has made more recently,
Mila is in both of them and she's great in both of them.
But there isn't really much of like a whole like sexualization
element to it. Like I think like like Dave
Bautista gets neutered than Milain in the Lost Lance.

(01:53:18):
I still need to see that movie. And the lost lands, like I think
this is mid to low tier PWS, butI still think it's a rollicking
good time. I do.
I do think that it could have been afforded a little bit more
room to breathe, but it's basically the closest anyone has
gotten to, like, Albert Pune in awhile.
Love to hear that. Yeah.
And Paul's next project is supposed to be an adaptation of

(01:53:40):
the House of the Dead video games.
OK. Yeah.
Because apparently, like Sega was looking for like more people
to adapt their video games afterthe Sonic the Hedgehog movies
have been such a success. And Paul noticed that his kids
were playing the House of the Dead games.
So he's like, I think there's room for this.
And there was already a House ofthe Dead movie, but everyone

(01:54:00):
would like to forget it exists. So this is a case where video
game fans were gamers would actually be happier to have Paul
Anderson on a project because the previous guy was acclaimed
restauranteur. Who has made like no good
movies? At all.
I know there are people who stump for his movie rampage.
I didn't see that one. I haven't seen any available all

(01:54:22):
movies I have better things to. Do with my I think like Blood
Rain is my favorite as it's a it's like a 1 1/2 star movie,
but it's still very, very bad and borderline unwatchable.
Yeah, again, I haven't seen any of them.
I don't really have a reason to.See, don't really seen one, you
seen them all bad in the same way each time.
Yeah, but one of I think one, but I think a few of them had

(01:54:43):
like soundtracks by Nuclear Blast Records, which is a big
like German metal label. So they have like bands like
Nightwish and Blind Guardian on the soundtrack.
Like I think the only avaible directed thing I've seen in
entirety is Wish I had an Angel by Nightwish was like the a big
soundtrack can go for alone in the dark.
So we've made bold directed the music video for Wish I Had an

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Angel, which is Night Wishes signature song.
That's. Interesting music video.
And like the music video is kindof like oddly directed.
Like it's just like, you know, the band performing in a
warehouse with the shot selection is weird.
The way the band is acting is a bit strange.
Like he's like go kooky or go crazier.
And it's like they do not do this on stage, my man.

(01:55:26):
There's a movie that You Evolve was acted in a couple of years
ago. It's a Romanian movie called Do
Not Expect Too Much from the Endof the World.
It came out a couple. Years and said is that the Radu
Jude. Movie.
Yes, it is. Yeah.
A friend who in the Netherlands who fucking hates that guy like.
Yeah. Yeah, he think, he thinks that
director is just sort of like anedge Lord.
Like he thinks that director is basically what people who hate

(01:55:48):
Gasper no way think. Gasper no way is.
Like I've heard, I've heard goodthings with me.
I don't know anything about the director other than the fact he
made this one move. But you will stay in it and it's
like totally just fine. He plays himself in it too.
Yeah, that's yeah, that sounds because like what I hear from
about Judas films is that he's very much sort of like a
provocateur but unlocked. But unlike other like, European

(01:56:10):
provocateur directors, he doesn't seem to be a sex pest or
or the guy who made A Serbian film.
So yeah, like, didn't he have like a Dracula movie at TIFF
that had like a boner pill ad inthe middle of it?
Or something. We're talking about the guy
serving Film or Judah. Judah.

(01:56:31):
Oh, I'm not sure. Because I know he had a Dracula
movie and everything I hear I hear from that Dracula movie.
Seems it seems like late period Argento if it had more of a
pulse. It wasn't that found, but OK.
Yeah, OK. I found duvet bowls thing it's
called. It was called The Dark Knight,
but Warner Brothers sent a ceaseand desist so they changed the

(01:56:52):
title to Citizen Vigilante. It stars.
It stars Army Hammer and Costas Mandylor.
From Saw yeah. So yeah, I was like speak yeah.
Speaking like you people video game movies because like around
this time, like people did not see video games as like, you
know, something really worth adapting.
So that's why you always get so many of these adaptation rights

(01:57:14):
because like, I don't know, you want to make a Far Cry movie, Go
ahead. We'll make a postal movie Go
ahead. Like they weren't considering
video games as lucrative property to actually make a ton
of money with, which like nowadays, like like after Sonic
the Hedgehog and Mario Brothers make a billion dollars each,
like, yeah, like they're going to be trying to get some real
talent to actually make the Movies Now because why not adapt

(01:57:35):
video games into movies if like it's a whole like medium you can
adapt. And yeah, they actually put some
effort towards it. And I think that's one thing
that serious trying to do right now.
Like even the front Five Nights at Freddy's, which things
atrocious, at least they put some effort into it.
Yeah. It's like, remember there being
like in terms of making a Five Nights of Praise movies for a

(01:57:55):
while, there were a bunch of different directors attached to
it. And the whole time that Jim
Henson Company was attached to like do the animatronics.
And like I know a little bit of five nights of Freddy's lore
because like, I don't know, I was in high school and those
things are getting, we're getting huge.
Like I have one point just as anexercise when I was in high
school, like I robbed an outlinefor a Five Nights at Freddy's
movie and I basically like imagined it as sort of like a

(01:58:18):
100 minute sort of like in and out guy versus animatronics type
deal. Which maybe would have been
interesting, but given some of the weird shit I've heard about
that lore sense, people would have gotten mad because like,
apparently a big thing is that it's the souls, that the
children in the animatronics areactually secretly good.

(01:58:40):
It's just the fucking purple guy.
Yep. Or whatever the fuck.
And like, I don't know, like I feel like things keep trying to
be lore heavy and world buildingheavy these days and it's like,
can we just tell a story? And that's what this actually
is. The Resident Evil movies is that
like the video games get pretty lore heavy too because like
there's a lot of them and but the movies have their own lore

(01:59:03):
to them, their own continuity. But they're basically like, they
basically switch it up every movie depending on like what
Paul is interested in in the moment.
Like you have to like watch a TVshow, understand how Resident
Evil afterlife plays out like it's pretty contained.
Like you're not you're not confusing.
They're these movies explain themselves pretty well.

(01:59:24):
Like you might be confused by some like the plot machinations,
but like you're not confused about like the overall what's
going on in the movie like a pretty.
Straight. You also have some, you also
have like some retcons that happen throughout the series,
especially at the final film. And it's very funny watching
them all pretty close together because you look at what the
final film says and it's like, ah yes, obvious reckons.

(01:59:45):
Yeah, but like, even the retcons, like, like they're
goofy. They don't make too much sense
in the grand scheme, but like they they're not jarring to
witness because like, OK, well, like the movies just going to
run with it now. You're not going to be
questioning the logic too much. These are just fun, dumb action
movies. Don't think about it too much.
And like, I feel like a lot of these like movies are trying to

(02:00:05):
be heavy in the lore and trying to keep things, keep the lore
like front and centre. Users think everything's trying
to be basically everything's trying to be Lord of the Rings
of the MCU now. And it's like you don't have to,
you know, I find myself just starting to think about it too
much. Like you know when, like when
let's say Spiderman no homes. A great example for me.
Because like, that's why we're all these.

(02:00:26):
I haven't seen that and honestlyI'm so Marvel black filled that
I can't imagine going back to see any of them.
Like except for maybe Guardians 3 because that one I haven't
seen that. That's a great I'd like to see,
but I'm not exactly in a rush, you know.
But like I guess just say the problem is Spiderman No way
home, which is like the one where there's multiple Spiderman
is like a multiverse story. So all the villains, other
Spiderman movies like the AndrewGarfield Torquier ones come to

(02:00:49):
Tom Holland's world, everything.But it's like the moment for
each villains defeated, they getbrought into this reality and
like like, OK, cool. Like decent premise.
But this sort of thing about theother movies, like OK, well
that's not how that character was behaving in this movie I saw
back then. And it's just like I'm trying to
keep like 5 different movies andtrack in my mind while watching
this new movie. And also the creator continuity

(02:01:11):
of like a Doctor Strange movie or something.
And it's just like, OK, well like now I'm thinking about like
13 other movies and not thinkingabout the movie I'm currently
watching. Yeah, like that's the thing,
like the thing that really kind of made me Blackpool on the MCU
stuff is that like a little bit of watching it just kind of
started to feel like homework. I remember viscerally being
fucking furious at the end of the first season of Loki.

(02:01:32):
And the reason why is that it didn't really have an ending to
the story it was supposedly telling.
It was just setting up more shitto be dealt with later.
The same thing as Wanda, Vision and Falcon and Winter Soldier.
And it just kind of made me realize that none of these
actually wanted to tell their own contained story anymore Like
people will. There were there was like a
group of people that will stay with three new Marvel movie

(02:01:53):
like, oh, this is the best one since end game.
It actually tells a whole story and then you look into it and
it's not doing that at all. It does.
And it's like they it's like that Fantastic Four movie that
just came out. Like I haven't seen it, but from
what I've gathered they basically just rushed like
through three different Fantastic Four movies just so
that they can get to the bit where Robert Downey Junior

(02:02:14):
Doctor Doom shows up and takes areading.
The sues. Kid as a post credit scene yeah
like it's. Because they're so like, because
like Marvel is getting like, I guess like everyone involved is
getting so scared about how these movies are starting to
underperform that they just wantto rush to the big splash bit
that would make money. And by doing that, you actually
sacrifice making stories to get people to care about these

(02:02:36):
characters in the 1st. Place and the bachelor has an
evil like cause like actually deserved A cliffhanger pretty
much so they they they set up more things that go wrong.
But before that cliffhanger there's a full movie that's
happened a full movie with like action scenes, characters
introductions, character deaths,new information we learn so it
is a full movie and the sequels is like it's not like the first

(02:02:58):
movie setting up SQL like the 4th movie down the line.
It's just setting up the next movie.
They go sequentially and like the nice thing with these movies
you mentioned, Marvel feel like homework.
These movies don't feel like homework, they feel like
escapism. Yeah, it's like the longest one
is the last one, and even that'sonly like an hour 46.
Yeah, you can watch like these like pretty quickly.

(02:03:18):
They're like you can spend a couple weekends going through
all of them. Like they are a pretty breezy
watch. I think truly, if you are a
Resident Evil video game purist and will not accept any changes
to like the, you know, an adaptation of the video game,
you'll probably get angry at these movies.
But if you'll just let that go, well, there are very fine watch.
I think the fifth one, Retribution is the one that I

(02:03:39):
think is the best one and is an actually great action movie.
The rest of them is like fun be schlocky, you know, good sci-fi
action action horror very late in the horse, more action horror
for sure. But like there there's fun
movies and I think they're kind of disposable in a good way.
They don't actually expect you to think a lot about them.

(02:04:01):
You kind of just along for a little bit of a roller coaster
in the hands of a director who is a pretty good.
I think Paul WS Anderson is a good visual storyteller.
I think that he might. He's clumsy this dialogue at
points. He's clumsy with some of his
choices he makes. But as a visual filmmaker, he's
great setting things up and delivering on some very
fascinating visual choices. And this especially that fifth

(02:04:22):
one, that fifth one is an incredible imagery at points.
I think that like I can see why people come around to this
because they are good antidote to again, we're talking with
Marvel stuff where it's like, you know, it is doesn't feel
like homework. I feel self-contained and stuff.
It's actually a filmmaker makinga movie with a some IP and
making it his own rather than just being beholden to the IP or

(02:04:46):
beholden to like setting up fivemore movies.
I think it's good to see movies actually have some artistic
voice going on in them. And that's the great thing with
the vulgar tour theory is 02 theory or theory is basically
saying like there's an author tothis is a style in place for a
movie. And the vulgar all tour theory
basically says like we should extend this to appreciate some

(02:05:06):
of the people are not making critically acclaimed movies
because their style is still very heavily on display.
Let's celebrate that. And I think it's good to people
like Paul WS Anderson be able tomake movies because they're
clearly his movies. And I kind of lament this lack
of like a mid budget blockbusterlike this.
I think there should be more of them rather than just having
either the cheap indie somethingdumped off to Netflix or be

(02:05:29):
something like $200 million likea superhero blockbuster.
Yes. Something that needs to make a
billion dollars just to make anymoney.
Yeah. And it's like, I do actually
kind of like thinking about it. I feel like kind of the start of
vulgar auteurism was when was inthe late 90s when the Criterion
Collection did DVD releases of Michael Bay's The Rock and
Armageddon. Yeah, absolutely.
It gives them some like, validity.

(02:05:50):
And like, Michael Bay is 100% ofthose guys too, where it's like,
this is a Michael Bay movie. Yeah, I Speaking of, I think
Michael Bay is going to be like supposed to be like dipping his
toes into the video game movie sometime soon.
Like I think he's supposed to bedoing like this adaptation of
like a car racing video game with Sydney Sweeney.
There's also all those rumors for a long time that it being
fake about him making a skippitytoilet movie.

(02:06:11):
Like The thing is, he his production company did get the
rights to Scotty toilet. But apparently like like the
main thing that's going on is that Bay is trying to develop
the Skippity toilet guy as sort of like his own protege.
Get him money and access to stuff he didn't have.
Because the shitty toilet guy isjust like some dude making stuff
in GG mod in like the country ofGeorgia.

(02:06:33):
So like, yeah, maybe. And like, apparently just buying
the shitty toilet rights was just kind of like a way to sort
of like step into like taking inthis this guy, Mr. The Fuck Boom
I think is his YouTube channel because I because I've seen the
videos where Bay talks about it and he refers to the skinny
toilet guys simply as Boom. Well, also knows what this movie

(02:06:56):
too is that like nowadays like the a lot of movies are very
much the John Wick mode of action.
There was like a long time of backlash to like this sort of
like post taken Europacorp post born style of action filmmaking,
which was very emphasizing on like quick cuts and like shaking
the camera. And it felt like that sort of
backlash peaked with like the release of John Wick because

(02:07:18):
everyone was looking at John Wick being like, look at all
this. It's clean cut, clearly
choreographed action, shot very cleanly, and then like every
movie that tried to like, copy that or like hire someone from
the 8711, sort of like Starsky and Leach School.
A lot of those movies are fucking ass.
Yeah. Like Extinction, like

(02:07:39):
Extraction. Terrible.
Atomic Blonde, like a lot of theDavid Leach movies once you
split with Salesky, are fucking trash.
Like Atomic Blonde has its moments, but the movie itself is
just like, overall kind of blah.Well, yeah, there's the John
Wick style is now the most popular style for making an
action when supposed to be slickand cool.

(02:08:01):
It wouldn't surprise me if like some like take and gets a
reappraisal too, because that's just a different kind of action
that's kind of copying the JasonBourne style.
And Jason Bourne style is gonna feel pretty fresh feel going
back to it now because now we'rejust in a different era of
action movies. So I think people kind of come
back to these movies, back to these eras and think like, hey,
like, you know, what were the actual interesting things that
came with the era when we weren't really when we thought

(02:08:22):
this error was just generic? What was the actual interesting
filmmaker is making interesting choices with the style?
What were the actually interesting movies are popping
out that we weren't even considering because something
Resident Evil like, you know, itfelt like almost like species
that time felt like almost like Independence Day at times.
The way the visual effects look and such.
Looking back at it now, it kind of feels kind of fresh because

(02:08:44):
it does have that new metal twist to it, which is really
funny and it has a lot. Of like, especially now that
like, new metal has been like, fully reappraised too.
Yeah, because it's a genre that died out so fast too.
Like existed for little bit and just like pretty much ended like
pretty quickly. It's a very kind of, no pun
intended, a corny genre in a sense.

(02:09:04):
And it's like, it's fun to see because it doesn't sound like
any music being made now. Yeah, it's like I have seen both
Poppa Roach and Linkin Park perform live this year.
So I fully like see like why people because like as someone
who is kind of like a fan of this kind of music, like not all
of it, but like there are, but like these bands are still like

(02:09:25):
putting on extremely good live shows to very responsive
audiences. Like I saw Slipknot a couple
years ago. That is just straight up maybe
like maybe the best live set I have ever like seen.
Nice. Like Corey Taylor is maybe like
one of the best live vocalists ever seen.
He sounds exactly like it does on the record live.
That's so cool. Yeah, but anyways, I guess you

(02:09:48):
can. I wonder what the overlap
between vulgar auteurism and Late Style as far as criticism
goes, because you can definitelysee a vulgar auteurist argument
for Megalopolis. 100% but The thing is like I think France for
Copa was already critically claimed anyway that no one
really consider him to be of that mix.
Yeah, but like, there's a lot oftalk about Francis Forcola
that's basically like, Oh yeah, he made the Godfather movies in

(02:10:10):
Apocalypse Now. And maybe if some people have
actually seen more than 5 movies, I'll talk about the
conversation. Yeah, but a lot of his stuff is
just kind of like, considered anafterthought.
And as much as he is kind of considered one of the greats, a
lot of people are just happy to ignore most of his filmography
or write it off his garbage whenhis later career is actually
full of like some really interesting wings.
And like, I have not seen Megalopolis yet, but I feel like

(02:10:32):
I'd be on the side that is kinder to that movie than a lot
of people are. I feel like Steven Spielberg,
who like there was like Spielberg won the great
directors, but there's a lot of work to Spielbergs that people
just don't really consider like the fable Man's West Side Story.
They should be up there in like rankings with like, you know,
Schindler's List and Jurassic Park.

(02:10:52):
Like those are just. That's an incredible 1-2 punch
of movies. Yeah, and you also get like
people who kind of like write Spielberg and Scorsese office,
like pretentious old men who make art movies when these
people have made like some of the most made their bones on
blockbusters, you know, like, how are we calling the director
of Jaws and the director of like, the Departed pretentious,

(02:11:14):
you know? Exactly.
Yeah, yes, I think it's, I thinklike the vulgar description
really implies like the entire filmography has to be something
schlocky and kind of like something not as elevated,
something lower tier lowbrow. I think the vulgar describer
really like puts emphasis on them not being as like
critically claimed at some pointin time, like, you know, like

(02:11:37):
sound like, I don't know, William freaking made some
pretty you know what should be lowbrow movies like the French
Connection. But because there was a one
Oscars like no ones gonna put him in that mix at all.
But it is interesting thing to think about because like what is
the difference? I think vulgar Altur is like I
think it's more interesting termto help expand what people think
about alter theory in general and to be like, you know, like

(02:11:59):
who is evil brother who is not? I think it's just like a
filmmaker who has their own style as a filmmaker has their
own style, and I think it shouldbe celebrated for sure.
And. Yeah, yes, I guess.
So maybe do you have any final thoughts about 2002 resident?
Evil good movie. Yeah.
So, yeah. So what do you think about
series overall? Like you think you think is
middle of the pack for the franchise, right?

(02:12:19):
Yeah, it's like if I had to do atop to bottom ranking, it would
be Retribution, which is the fifth one, then Extinction,
which is the third one at #2 then three and four.
I kind of go back depending on how I feel.
I swap in Resident Evil, the first one and the final chapter,

(02:12:40):
the last one. Then after that is Afterlife,
which I like, but I think it's kind of like the one of the
lesser of the good ones. And then after, and then at the
very bottom is Apocalypse, the second one I And as one last
kind of interesting thing, thereis going to be a new Resident
Evil movie shooting this fall from director Zach Cregger, who

(02:13:02):
directed the excellent Barbarianand movie.
I have not seen Weapons. Weapons is good.
Yeah, I've heard. And Cregger is kind of like an
interesting like emerging horrorhorror Jason Alter.
So I am very curious to see how it's take goes because he is
apparently one of those guys wholike played the games but never
saw the movies. But he isn't planning on like

(02:13:23):
following the games like super specifically.
Like he has specifically said that none of the characters from
the games will be in his will bein the movie.
We only have two actors cast Austin Abrams, who was
apparently in weapons and the great Paul Walter Hauser.
And the movie is being shot in Prague by cinematographer Darius
Wolski, who was Ridley Scott cinematographer for many years.

(02:13:45):
He shot the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
An incredible cinematographer with a great resume.
So this is probably the most, I guess Prestige or Resident Evil
movie you've gotten yet. 100% yeah, no doubt about it.
And so I am going to be very curious to see what the
discourse is like when that movie comes.
Out. Yeah.
Because like I think that I think that what creditors can do

(02:14:07):
really well is like you're in one location and the descent
into what lies underneath is thematically and atmospherically
very interesting. And as a result, often is, it's
often you start like in a house and a laboratory downstairs.
Yeah, and back to Paul WS Anderson.
Like the House of the Dead moviethat he's developing to shoot
soon. Apparently he's planning on that

(02:14:28):
to be sort of a straightforward adaptation of House of the Dead
3 and he is planning on having ashot in in real time gimmick to
it. Huh.
That would be interesting, yeah.Yeah.
So basically we live in a post Minecraft movie world as far as

(02:14:48):
video games go. Yeah, video game movies go.
I did not see the Minecraft movie because I am not seven
years old. I saw it.
It's not very good. Yeah, it's like I, it's like
that first trailer came out and it was so bad I actually made
one of our fantasy leagues like last place Punishment to like
stream yourself watching that first Minecraft trailer on loop
for an hour. That's awful.
That's so mean and cruel, but sofunny.

(02:15:11):
Yeah, it's like, I didn't even, like expect anyone to actually
take it seriously. It was just made into effect for
that league and then someone hadto do it and only two people
watched them do it because he did on a Monday.
Night. That's so funny.
No, he did it on a Saturday, butI couldn't do it because that
because I was working. So like, yeah, I will probably

(02:15:32):
not watch that Minecraft movie because I have respect for what
I do with my time. I could be watching more
interesting movies. Like, let me look at my watch
pile really quick. The Ben Affleck movie Reindeer
Games. That's a fun one.
Not great, but I'm kind of saving that for December.
Like, you know, it's John Frankenheimer, so he apparently,

(02:15:54):
like, goes ham on the action. Hmm.
Yeah. So, yeah.
So thank you so much for joiningme.
Oh, no problem. Yeah.
Anything you want to plug? Well, I actually have.
I actually got slit $20 to read this piece of paper that someone
gave to me. Let's see this episode of Movie
Pod is sponsored by. Cy Abelman.
Cy Abelman. Oh that's great.

(02:16:28):
Everyone at home? Go watch A Serious man right
now. Wait a minute, this isn't real
money. I got tricked.
Um, so you can follow me at Twitter blue sky letterbox at at
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Twitter, Blue Sky, and now YouTube.
So a spooky month continues on Movie Pause.

(02:16:49):
So next week I'm going to be joined by Alex Dorf where we'll
be discussing the 1981 film Possession with Sam Neill, which
I have not actually seen. That movie rocks.
I've never seen it. It is part of one of my
favorites of genres of movie which is Sam Neill has a Bad
Time. Like you can like do a hell of a
triple feature with Possession, Event Horizon and John

(02:17:11):
Carpenters in the mountains of Matt.
I mean in the mouth of madness. I've been itching to rewatch
again Paul Davis Anderson. He also Event Horizon, which
Event Horizon is a pretty fuckedup movie.
Yeah, after Retribution, Event Horizon is my second favorite
Paul Davis Anderson movie. Thank you so much for joining
me. And to everyone listening until
next week, take care. No.

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