September 11, 2024 • 29 mins
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Ever wondered what really happens on a wild night out with a drag queen? Join us as we spill the tea with the fabulous Miss Chanel No. 5, the reigning queen of Clapham's drag scene. From Brad's notorious wardrobe malfunctions to a disastrous perm attempt, Chanel gives us the lowdown on our most laugh-out-loud moments around London. With a glass of Whispering Angel wine in hand, we chat about the highs and lows of drag culture and the personal journeys within it, adding a dash of humor and insight into our crazy adventures.
Imagine spending a holiday with your family in a secluded French villa, complete with poolside drama and moments of sheer joy. Relive our family holiday fiascos and celebrations, followed by a vibrant trip to Guernsey for Pride, where the atmosphere was nothing short of electric. We navigate the rollercoaster of family dynamics and the exuberance of Pride celebrations, sharing stories that are as heartfelt as they are hilarious.
Get ready for a whirlwind tour of South London's nightlife, featuring mistaken identities, wild mix-ups, and Benji's infamous drunken escapade outside Subway. Whether it's a rugby-player mix-up during a show or a chaotic night at a gay networking event, our tales from Cardiff and Brighton are bound to leave you in stitches. To top it all off, we dive into a lively debate about Drag Race, fantasizing about a survival-themed mashup and dissecting the career impacts of the show. Stick around for our fun game segment, "Mr. and Mr. Benji and Brad Edition," for an extra dose of laughter and shade!
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello and welcome to my big game podcast with me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And me, Brad, giving you the life, the loves and
lulls of living in London, Twogays one city.
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, we have a special guestin the studio today, so excited
to welcome on Miss Chanel no 5.
(00:42):
Hello, hello, hello.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hello Chanel.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So great to have you on the podcast at long last.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know You've been ignoring my calls.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes we have Now.
For those of you who don't knowwho Chanel is she is a drag
queen.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Join the queue Right.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Right, I thought we were going to at least get the
pleasantries out of the waybefore we started the roast.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, yes, yes, fine, fine, fine, sorry, brad, as you
were saying so chanel is a dragqueen.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We know you from the clapham circuit, don't we?
We've been to your bingos,which we love, and we've been
out and about with you in theclubs I know you from the job
center but we are so, so greatthat you're finally able to come
onto the podcast this season.
We've been wanting to get youon for a while, so thank you for
joining us thank you so muchfor having me.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's such a thrill to actually see you do that
introduction live, oh well, you,you are welcome now.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Something that you should all know about is chanel
number five, I think, of all thedrag queens and all the events
that we go to in london, hasprobably seen us out and about
the most at our best and mostcertainly at our worst I have no
idea what you're talking aboutI do.
I mean a lot of the things thatwe've shared on instagram.
I mean, I'll just name one toas an example when you ripped
(01:57):
your trousers at cheeky girls ohyeah yeah.
And then you fell down thestairs at brewers, oh yeah yeah,
and you threw an arch.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All right.
Is this like list off my flawsor something?
What's going on?
Well, yes, it kind of was.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Actually, what I was listing off was events that
Chanel was all present at.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and Chanel was there to witness and record.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So thank you for capturing that content, Chanel.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Honestly, it's just quite how I remember that I
think legal terminology is she'sa witness girl.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, right, and also Chanel.
I first met you a few years agowhen I moved to Clapham and I
had a perm.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You did, you did.
I remember the perm.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Dark days, bad times.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Bad times.
Actually, if they were dark, itprobably would have Made you
look better.
To dye your hair, you have tohave hair.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
How rude.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Mama the perm killed it.
I'm not gonna lie when he solong story short, brad FaceTimed
me Mid perm.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I did In the chair yeah Rollers in yeah Tinfoil on
yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, there's no rollers girl.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There are perm rollers.
They've just been taken out.
Yeah, Not at this moment.
I know how a perm works.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
A perm roller, not at this moment.
He looked like a boiled egg, ohno.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And he checks me.
He's like I'm going to FaceTimeyou, okay.
What's happening next?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
is this.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It is this the end result because and we can talk
about this, you've openly talkedabout it on the podcast that
you've had a hair transplant.
I was like did you mention tothem that you have done that
before getting all this chemicalwarfare going on in your hair
to try and curl it?
He was like, yeah, I didmention it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I was like, oh, my goodness, I'm, I'm nervous, I'm
nervous I was actually nervousas well, but it turned out all
right, didn't chanel?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
the perm was.
It was a defining era in yourlife it was the perm was perming
, done, tick, boom, move on.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Never do it again, for sure never, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You promise, promise, I promise I like your hair
straight.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's the only straight thing about you that is
true, that is true.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Thank you, chanel, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
it also hides the bald patches.
That was horrible, that was sohorrible, she mean girl.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
She is a mean girl.
Mean girl.
Listen, Chanel, we're so happythat you're here in the podcast,
but we actually have a fewbullet points to get through
before we're going to introduceyou properly.
That's all right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Is that all right?
Go and sit in the corner withthe wine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I tell you what I'm going to crack open this lovely
bottle of wine for you.
Do you see how fancy we've gonefor you?
Have a look, We've gone verynice.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Read it out loud for everyone.
Whispering Angel.
Oh, that did something to thatASMR.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yes, that made me go goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't give me goosebumps.
Is that what we're calling itnowadays?
Are we gonna?
Is it gonna?
It's gonna pop.
Are you over there?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, it's gonna it's not coming.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh my God, max, keep screwing.
It's stuck, it's stuck, keepscrewing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh my God, Brad, this disappointment reminds me of my
date with you.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, we got it.
Smells pretty good actually.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Now this is actually quite expensive wine, isn't it?
Whisper of an Angel.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It is over the £10 marks.
That is expensive for you.
It for you it is um, yeah, itis.
Do you know what?
Right?
I don't understand why well, Ikind of do.
I don't understand why they'rein bars, why some bottles of
alcohol have to be as expensiveas they try to charge like I get
it with champagne like moebollinger.
If you go to like a supermarket, it's like a 40 50 quid number.
(05:18):
If you buy that in a, in a bar,sometimes it's like over 100
pounds crazy isn't that crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I actually inquired once about a bottle of smirnoff
and some mixers for a group ofpeople how drunk were you, quite
drunk.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
How many lines down were you?
Uh, excuse me I'm wholesomethese days oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Lots of, yeah, lots of lines to get in.
Um, it was over 100 pound for abottle of smirnoff, which is
like 15 pound in tesco.
So how many did you buy?
Two right?
Here we go, glug, glug, bitchchanel, would you like some
whispering angel?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I would love some whispering angel, sorry I keep
whacking the microphone with theglass podcaster.
You should also know that we'vealready had a bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We are doing a rose test.
We did.
We had to see what we likedbecause, chanel, you were
talking about this amazingchicken wine, chicken wine.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, so it's a big thing on tiktok.
It's, it's chicken wine andwhispering angel are the big
ones on tiktok at the moment.
Whispering angel is veryupmarket, very bougie.
Chicken wine is slightly lessbougie, but apparently people
really like it I like thechicken wine.
I thought it was very nice andsweet.
And what did you say?
You said it went down likefruit juice, didn't you, benji?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
yeah, I just well, I just said it was going down
quite well.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But you swallow easy, so that makes sense.
I do swallow easy Chanel'snodding.
Why does Chanel know that?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Brad is happy drinking anything out of this
cocktail gin goblet that he'scurrently got.
Right now, the biggest glass ofwine I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, these are your glasses, benji, pardon,
these are your glasses, aren'tthey?
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Why do you not have Three wine glasses that match?
I don't need them to match whenit's just for me.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sad to be all alone In the world.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Stage your reference.
Stage your reference.
Thank you, I do stage yourreferences All the time and
quite often they get cut, girl,they end up on the Cutting room
floor Bad girl?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Honestly, they do they go.
I know how that feels.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Apart from six, we got six.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And speaking of six, can you believe what episode
number this is today and whatseason are we on?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So it's a double six.
And what season of Drag Racejust came out.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's all about the sixes and you've had the demon
of the London drag scene on, so666, it all works out.
And what comes after?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Chanel number five.
Oh, we're going to get a letter.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We are, we are.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We know that a team member of six musical listeners
the podcast.
We are going to get a letter.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, but FYI, we actually love that show so much.
If you haven't seen it, go andsee it.
100% recommend.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I love that.
You've always got youradvertising brain on.
You can't sue us if we'repositive.
Oh my goodness, right, brad.
What have you got coming on upon the podcast today?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
well, I actually have a question to ask you, because
last time we were in the studiotogether, you were talking about
going on a family holiday toFrance and you were a little bit
unsure how it was going to panout.
So now that you're back, tellus all about it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, look, let's focus on the positives first.
Right, everyone who wentmarried is still married, Great.
Everyone who went friendsthey're still friends.
My dog's still alive Good.
So if we focus on those thingsthings it was a really positive
holiday.
But what I will say is therewas 12 family members over three
cottages in the middle of guamand when I say guam, I just mean
(08:32):
in the middle of absolutelynowhere and they were like
little kids as well, right mynephews were there.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I couldn't really leave them at home.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Um, okay, they're not screaming.
They are a lot of work.
We had had a pool, which wasgreat, but it was just Listen.
I'm not being ungrateful forhaving a close relationship with
my family.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
No, I think it's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Really, really love it, and it was for my dad's 70th
, et cetera.
I know he must have had mereally late in life because I'm
only 26.
But anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Not, but anyway, we'll move on um, not this again
more whispering angel, um itwas fine, it was really hot the
word, quite I mean you do have atan.
I'm so brown, yeah, very tanned.
Thank you.
Arguments so many.
Oh really, were you involved inthe arguments or were you on
the sidelines?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
was it the pot stirrer?
No, I know that's what youthink I am.
No, I was involved in one ofthem.
Listen, my family is one ofthose families that is quite an
argumentative family, like we doargue all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right, you'll get on afterwards, or is it a bit tense
?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, it might take a few days to like get it back to
normal, but like we do argue alot, we're not one of these very
quiet or loving families.
We're very outspoken, veryopinionated, Are very outspoken
very opinionated.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Are you surprised Not ?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
at all.
But no, it was good.
I'm pleased we went.
I don't know if I could do itagain for a few years.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Really.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Really Legit.
It was too much.
In fact, I've been talkingabout going away to like Grand
Canyon in January with the gays,just to like try and cover, let
loose yeah.
It's like it's not a holidayholiday since before lockdown.
My last holiday was actuallyjanuary 2020, lol, in thailand,
(10:09):
just before covid hit, and I'venot really done anything since.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I went to disney, but again with the family doesn't
count as a holiday, because I dothink family holidays are a
different mentality.
Right, you can't fully relax.
You probably weren't likegetting drunk and going wild I
didn't drink a single thing yeah, right.
So not that it necessarilyneeds to be about drinking, but
it should be about drinking.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
A holiday to me.
I want sun, I want somewhere toswim, I want men in shorts and
I want alcohol.
I love that.
I know you do, girl.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So I guess family holidays not quite the same sort
of vibe, for that reason.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But, as we said, it's so nice that you do have a
relationship with your family.
Being a queer person, I'm nevergonna take that for granted.
I really do love that, butsometimes it is it's testing.
It is testing.
Yeah, it was all good, thankyou great well, I'm glad you
survived.
I did survive and althoughobviously, if you watch on
instagram you may well have seenI've just come back from
guernsey.
Yes, because it was pride overthere.
Right, it was.
And podcast.
As you may know, last year wedid part of the campaign for
jersey, so they take it in turns.
So this year I went over toguernsey to do pride um again,
(11:10):
with some drag queens.
We did some shows.
It was wild always is with youyeah, I don't know what that is
like.
Am I the drama?
I think you are, I think I am,I think I'm the main character
in this, in this situation butno, it was so much, honestly,
genuinely, genuinely so much fun, Like anyone who came.
Thank you for coming and makingit what it was Like.
I think it's so important forthe Channelines, which are 20
years behind, at least for usbut, then London.
(11:32):
I say, yeah, it was just, it wasgood turnout, good vibes Dare.
I say it as a Jersey boy Iactually preferred being in
Guernsey for Pride.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Jersey obviously had more.
I would say, had more, spentmore money.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like the staging and stuff.
But Guernsey really nailed thevibe.
You heard it here firstpodcasters, that is the tea, and
now I'm going to get draggedfor that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You are?
Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But hey, it is what it is.
I had a great time.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Thank Great.
Well, I'm so glad you enjoyPride, thank you.
Now I'm going to try thisWhispering Angel, yeah, me too,
and I think Chanel is going tojoin us as well.
Welcome back, Chanel Can youstill hear us, chanel.
I've already finished my glass.
Well, let's have a little drink.
We're going to take a shortbreak and we'll be back with the
next section.
Cheers, cheers.
Right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right, we're back.
I've actually had a quickcoffee because I really felt
that rosy going right to my head.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The whispering angel went to your head.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, and the chicken wine that you fed me earlier.
I've got to stop putting thingsin my mouth that you put near
me.
You're a bad influence, butvery excited to welcome back to
the podcast.
It is finally and this is yourproper introduction my love, so
just stay quiet for a second.
She is a drag queen.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm going to try again.
She is a tolerated drag queenfrom London.
She is the hostess with themostest and if you go to one of
her gigs, even if you go alonewe've said this before she will
make sure you feel included andvery much a part of the party.
She is a vocal sensation.
She is the one and only well,there's five of her technically
chanel number five I thinkthat's the nicest thing you've
(13:11):
ever said about me I lied, andeven then it wasn't very nice
literally I do mean it.
We did like a little socialhandbook a couple of episodes
ago and we did say and wegenuinely mean it we've seen you
do it like if people come toyour gigs and they're on their
own, you make sure they feel sowelcome and that is such an
important thing for ourcommunity.
So maybe that's one of thethings that draws towards you.
I don't know, or maybe it wasthe free lines, I don't know on
(13:33):
bingo, you mean no, as in toskip the queue, guys and get in
for free.
What are you on about?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I can't stand for this.
I can't be associated with thisI'm a big time hollywood
actress.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh, we missed that, but chanel you um host all over
london and beyond.
Right, don't you go to wales ona weekend?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
uh, not every weekend .
I couldn't keep up with thatmany trains but yeah, I go to
wales, I go to brighton.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I've been to manchester anywhere that will
pay me to be quite honest withyou I have a question, because
you go around all the towns andeverything you go anywhere
Grindr calls you.
We actually have a genuinequestion.
So you go to Wales quite oftenfor gigs.
I've seen that Now.
I've heard I've been to Walesonce, but I've never been out in
Wales.
I've heard they are big chaosdrinkers.
Is this true?
Oh, it's fantastic yeah is it?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So Cardiff, you go to Cardiff, yeah yeah.
So obviously it's capital city,so it's got all the vibes of,
like London, the party scene andeverything.
But the gay scene is a littlebit smaller and so there are a
few bars enough to kind of keepyou going for an evening, but
not the kind of breadth anddepth and variety that London
quite has.
But it's really a great set ofbars so you can really get
(14:42):
exactly what you want from theevening.
And my favourite thing aboutCardiff is they've got an entire
alley full of kebab placescalled Chippy Lane, chippy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Lane.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Chippy Lane and there's a sign and everything.
It is, honestly, possibly thebest place, possibly the worst
place you ever want to be at 2am.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh my goodness, it's incredible.
This sounds like heaven at 2am.
Cheesy chips on Chippy Lane.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
See you there.
I live on a Zempic street, soit's not, you do Chicken and
cheese and chips.
Oh it's fantastic, it doessound good.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And that would do you for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I have a question about Wales Now.
I know you're a little bit outthere.
We weren't going to talk toomuch just yet.
Is this true?
I love a rugby player.
I will say this is what I'veheard wow.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I will say especially Clapham as well.
They've got the rugby playersthey come in they go out.
I've done.
I thought it was a rugby night.
I was booked at the twoboroughs that were doing a rugby
night.
I spent the entire show goingoh my god, rugby players love
rugby players.
Got to the end and one of themcomes up.
You do know, we're a footballteam, right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That is brilliant.
I was mortified.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I think I can never go back.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I think I can never see any of them again.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do places rarely book you a second time Um?
You sort of turn up you blowtheir sound system and then you
just sort of hop on a train,you're horrible.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sorry, I know.
You're horrible Off on the.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Peloton.
Is that what it's called Pel,peloton, peloton.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh yeah, you do the.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Peloton right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, I love it.
She's well bougie, she's gother own.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I've got my own at home.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Fancy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But what I'm getting from this conversation is that
we meet you in Benji.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Is that Benji's had too much rosé Too?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
much rosé, and also we need to go to Cardiff for a
night out.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
You do, yeah, yeah, for sure yeah, I do two places
in cardiff.
So the golden cross which isgiving, I suppose if you were to
associate it with london itwould be giving like rvt, very
classic pub, classic pub, olderdrag, and like you go to worship
the drag like they love, likean older drag.
So mary golds, lots of theseolder drag queens, and then
there's mary's which is kind ofgiving the brewers, so it's a
(16:40):
bit more.
There's a little bit more rowdy, a little bit more feral.
The twinks behind the bar loveto give me far too many shots,
great had me at twinks.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah listen, I'm not gonna lie.
Next time you have gigs downthere, I actually think we
should go.
I think we should go we'll do aday trip, get the train, the
train is about two hours.
I'm not driving again.
Did you hear about the story?
Just drive, drive to write it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No bad decision.
The drive there was fine.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What I hadn't really considered was the driving over
drive back.
Yeah bad, no, no this one waslike are you actually okay to
drive bench?
I was like, yeah, of course Iam getting behind the wheel.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I was like, oh, my god the sweats the shakes I am
hold my wine glass that was bad,remember I had to um pull over
and stop halfway for a littlebreather yeah, that was the
night.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I was like, yeah, buy some shots.
And I had you in my car and alittle notification called my
phone like 120 quid, oh someonebought shots for the entire
fucking bar.
That was the help night thehelp night that was actually
told that story?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think we have it is one of my favorite stories ever
.
Yeah, we were out for a gaynetworking event, weren't we?
And obviously we got a littlebit drunk.
At the networking event, westarted to make friends and we
were like, guys, let's carry onthe party.
We were staying in Brightonanyway, so we had a little
Airbnb around the corner.
We took a group of gays out toBar Broadway Bar Broadway in
(17:57):
Brighton.
Ooh, bad decision.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Always a bad decision .
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Always a bad decision .
I mean always bad decision.
I mean great decision.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We love great decision at the time yeah, poor
decision the morning, oh mygoodness the drinks are so cheap
, the vibe is so great, we gotso hyper, you went missing and I
was asking everyone's like haveyou seen, benji, I come out of
the bar.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did the ghost in the basement game?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
is there a ghost?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
have you not heard this?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
what so bar?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
broadway is obviously .
It's been there for like ever,like the building.
So in the basement, where thetoilets are, there's a blocked
up like tunnel.
There's a tunnel from there tothe pavilion that they used to
smuggle prostitutes in and outfor, like the dignitaries, and
so there's apparently, like adead child ghost in the toilets.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why is it going to be a child?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know, or there's lots of dead ghosts, etc
, etc.
Down there, Apparently.
That's the rumor.
So it is ghosts, etc, etc downthere, Apparently.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's the rumour.
So every time I go to thetoilets there I'm like I mean,
why have you got a cold Chanel?
I mean I very nearly became oneof the ghosts.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, you really did, Because you went missing.
And then I said to everyone hasanyone seen Benji?
Go outside?
There you are in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Not just in the gutter Outside Subway, to be
specific.
Outside, go outside.
There you are in the gutter,not just in the gutter outside
subway, to be specific outsidesubway.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Outside the subway you've entered the pizza, the
pizza place next door to subway.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Very Italian pizza, very good no darling, I barely
made it to the subway in thegutter on all fours spewing his
guts out.
Oh no, at least into the gutter.
I was at least like, yeah, itcould have been worse, you could
have been in the sea?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I checked his phone.
I just sent him help.
Yes, help, Just the word, helpconstantly.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And I came over to you and I was like are you okay?
And you just went help, it wasliterally help help, help, help,
help.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Why have you just spent 120 quid on my phone?
Help, help, help.
And what does he do?
Cracks out FaceTime.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Look at Benji.
Everyone needed to see it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh God, so bad.
They made you go share a bed.
That was not the one.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You shared a bed and those hotels in Brighton some of
them are.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was Airbnb, we were fine.
Yeah, I mean that was fun.
Yeah, but Wales next time.
Yes, for sure, cardiff, yeah,so Chanel where is your
favourite area or type of crowd?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I have to say as much as I'm horrible to South London
.
I bully people that live inSouth London because I don't
believe that they have the tube.
It's true, they've got one line.
Don't laugh.
They've got one line.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The Northern, the Northern line.
Ironically, Ironically they'vegot the Northern line.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
South of the river, but I really enjoy South London.
I've just started working atthe Rising, which is the brand
new one in Elephant and Castle.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I heard that is amazing vibe there.
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I've heard this Really lovely, like very new,
very fresh.
They are absolutely bringing itat the moment and they have
once or twice in the next fewmonths.
So if you would like to comeand see me, you might as well.
And then I love Clapham.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I love Clapham.
We I mean we are around Claphamquite a lot.
Obviously, I live up the roads.
Yeah, I love Clapham too.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
We do love Clapham.
I do find that Clapham hasperhaps a slightly older
clientele, because I supposeSoho is what you instantly hear
of when you go.
Oh, going to London, going toSoho.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So Clapham is very much like people that live in
London gays that live in Londonand know exactly where they're
going and exactly what they like.
So they're a little bit moreestablished.
They know what they want andtherefore it means that they can
have a lovely time until 2amand then they can be in bed by
half past 2 because they live inClapham.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Speaking of Drag Race , season 6 has been announced.
Have you seen the Meet theQueens?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm sorry.
What season has been announced?
Season 6 have you seen the Meetthe Queens?
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
What season has been announced?
Season had to be done.
It had to be done.
Oh, we're going to get so sued.
But yeah, have you seen theMeet the Queens?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I have not seen the Meet the Queens yet.
Okay, I'll be honest with you.
I know I'm going to be a badgay for saying this.
I'm a bit over Drag Race.
Is that really bad to say?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I've had enough of playing games.
It's, I'm with you.
There are so many franchisesgoing on.
I feel like we had canada versethe world clashed with global
all-stars, and now we've got uk,as well as other franchises
going on it's a bit much.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And don't get me wrong, I actually love drag race
.
I love what it stands for, Ilove what it does for the queer
community and I love theplatform and the doors is open
for these amazing queerperformers.
So I'm all for that.
I just think there's a bit toomany seasons too many.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I also just side note I find it hilarious that the
whole like meet the queen'saesthetic is bong girl and
they've absolutely taken thatfrom tamara from the last season
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah hilarious.
Um, also the promo picture.
Right, it's all the girls intheir bond outfits.
And then there's like alipstick being shot across the
picture as a bullet.
Why didn't they use like abullet vibrator?
(22:26):
Wouldn't that be so much fun?
it is still on the bbc I wasgonna say it's the bbc oh, come
on, the queen would have lovedit.
We all know the queen had abullet, though I do love that
the individual photos is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Behind every gay person there is an even gayer
person and it's a little shadowof themselves that stood behind
themselves in the background.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah, really count.
No, it's good, I am with you.
I do think there's too much andI feel like it's almost run its
course, but I don't know.
Chanel, come on, it's yourindustry, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I think that we should abolish Drag Race and do
Squid Game, but with drag queens.
There are too many.
Some of them need to go Now.
That is a show I would watch.
I need just any kind of realityTV show, but drag queens.
Oh my gosh, I want a mix ofDrag Race, but Big Brother I
(23:20):
want to see the behind thescenes oh yes, I want to see
them all living in a housetogether Like Top Model, like
they all living in a housetogether like top model like
they all live in a housetogether, but they have to do
the challenges and then one ofthem gets eliminated.
Uh, if we're putting 12 hugecharacters in a room, let's keep
the cameras on 24 hours a daythat is going to be amazing tv.
Let's starve them.
Let's really let them suffer.
(23:41):
Can you tell that I'm not ondrag?
Race because I'd love for thisto happen, so I can watch it,
but not if I was doing it oh mygosh.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, or like bear grills meets drag race, yes
using a using a heel to afucking murderer all they get
left with is a suitcase full ofdrag.
That's tv.
If there's a producer listeningto this, that's a tv show.
Sorry, but that is a tv show.
Tell them they're on the nextseason of drag race, but
actually land them on in themiddle of guam might be against
(24:09):
the geneva convention well, I'venever heard of that.
The what convention?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
perfectly legal convention as far as now listen,
am I gonna watch uk drag race,of course, like that is my
favorite of all the seasonsbecause obviously we know a lot
of the queens we we see them outand about.
So yeah, I will be watching it,but am I a little bit over Drag
Race?
As an overall thing, probablyyeah.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I think I am a little bit.
I'm not sure if you want toanswer this question.
Chanel, have you applied forDrag Race before?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Next question.
Thank you.
Next question.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
OK, next question Would you still consider doing
Drag Race?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think if you do it right and if you are incredibly
lucky, it can be an absolutecredit to your career.
It can really really changeyour career.
But I do see some people thatperhaps haven't had the best
edit, haven't perhaps done themost that they can with the
platform and I I see them andthey seem to be not quite happy
(25:12):
with how they've come across onthe show and come across
afterwards.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So I think that's the thing right, because you don't
have control over the edit, sothe producers are going to push
a narrative that maybe you'reyou've not signed yourself up
for, or you know that.
That's even going on, rightuntil you then watch the
episodes back and think hang ona second, I did say those things
or did pull those looks, butit's edited in like such a way
to make it more exaggerated thanwhat it is.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, but at the same time, you said those things
yeah, that's the whole likedetox thing, isn't it like,
don't be like.
It's the edit you said.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I'm not the villain, but I did say that everyone else
in the room was horrificallyugly and didn't deserve to be
here, so I don't know whythey're painting me to be the
villain.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sure, I mean any of the drag queens I know that have
done Drag Race, that have donewell, have all said if you go
into it knowing that it's a showand that it is going to be
heavily produced, rather thantrying to think standing on your
own two feet and it's acompetition, if you feed into
the producers, you will dobetter.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, of course, because if you give the content,
they're going to love that,right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They have to make a TV show at the end of the day.
I've said to several peoplebecause I know several people
that have auditioned for DragRace and some of them have since
now gotten on Drag Race thathave been really upset about the
fact that they've not gotten onand go why haven't I got on?
I think I'm really good.
People seem to think that I'mreally good and I really deserve
(26:32):
to be here.
I said well, they're not goingto put 12 first outs on the same
season, so they're going tosave you to go first in season
12 I mean, if we make it aseason 12, if we make it to
season 12 but the same way,they're never going to put the
12 best drag queens in the uk ondrag race, because it would be
a really bad television show.
It would be a great competition, but it wouldn't be a good tv
show.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And they are making a tv show at the end of the day
and speaking of competition,chanel, we know that you're a
shady little bitch, right, andwe say that with absolute love
and adoration I don't know whatyou mean and podcasters.
We've asked chanel to come upwith a little game.
A game a game.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
How are we spelling that?
G-a-y-a-n absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's the only way to spell game trademark.
Um, no, we have asked you tocome up with a little game.
So podcast is.
We're going to take a littlebreak.
We're going to top of ourglasses.
Does someone say top?
And then, because I'm at thebottom, of mine uh, and then
we're going to come back andplay a little game with Brad and
I head to head.
Did someone say head?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Chanel's face keeps lighting up every time you speak
.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Chanel is just messing with me constantly on
Grindr my battery I had to rockyou.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Social battery, phone battery everything is depleted.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Anyway, we're going to take a little break and when
we come backanel is going to beplaying a little game that we
like to call mr and mr benji andbrad edition oh, podcasters,
you know what that sound means.
That means that is all we'vegot time for on this week's
episode of my big game podcast,part one, don't forget.
I know, chanel, you're shocked,but one I know if they come
(28:02):
back.
Next week, podcasters, you'll beable to catch up the rest of
the episode with Miss Chanel,number five.
So if you don't already, pleasemake sure you head over to our
Instagram it's at Big GayPodcast or our website, which is
wwwmybiggaypodcastcom, and justsign up to our mailing list.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
And also get in touch with your queer diaries.
We want to hear your stories.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yes, we do, but, like we said, that's all we've got
time from this week's part oneuntil next time see you next
wednesday, thank you.
Hello and welcome to my big game podcast with me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And me, Brad, giving you the life, the loves and
lulls of living in London, Twogays one city.
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, we have a special guestin the studio today, so excited
to welcome on Miss Chanel no 5.
(00:42):
Hello, hello, hello.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hello Chanel.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So great to have you on the podcast at long last.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know You've been ignoring my calls.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes we have Now.
For those of you who don't knowwho Chanel is she is a drag
queen.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Join the queue Right.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Right, I thought we were going to at least get the
pleasantries out of the waybefore we started the roast.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, yes, yes, fine, fine, fine, sorry, brad, as you
were saying so chanel is a dragqueen.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We know you from the clapham circuit, don't we?
We've been to your bingos,which we love, and we've been
out and about with you in theclubs I know you from the job
center but we are so, so greatthat you're finally able to come
onto the podcast this season.
We've been wanting to get youon for a while, so thank you for
joining us thank you so muchfor having me.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's such a thrill to actually see you do that
introduction live, oh well, you,you are welcome now.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Something that you should all know about is chanel
number five, I think, of all thedrag queens and all the events
that we go to in london, hasprobably seen us out and about
the most at our best and mostcertainly at our worst I have no
idea what you're talking aboutI do.
I mean a lot of the things thatwe've shared on instagram.
I mean, I'll just name one toas an example when you ripped
(01:57):
your trousers at cheeky girls ohyeah yeah.
And then you fell down thestairs at brewers, oh yeah yeah,
and you threw an arch.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All right.
Is this like list off my flawsor something?
What's going on?
Well, yes, it kind of was.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Actually, what I was listing off was events that
Chanel was all present at.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and Chanel was there to witness and record.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So thank you for capturing that content, Chanel.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Honestly, it's just quite how I remember that I
think legal terminology is she'sa witness girl.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, right, and also Chanel.
I first met you a few years agowhen I moved to Clapham and I
had a perm.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You did, you did.
I remember the perm.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Dark days, bad times.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Bad times.
Actually, if they were dark, itprobably would have Made you
look better.
To dye your hair, you have tohave hair.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
How rude.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Mama the perm killed it.
I'm not gonna lie when he solong story short, brad FaceTimed
me Mid perm.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I did In the chair yeah Rollers in yeah Tinfoil on
yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, there's no rollers girl.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There are perm rollers.
They've just been taken out.
Yeah, Not at this moment.
I know how a perm works.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
A perm roller, not at this moment.
He looked like a boiled egg, ohno.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And he checks me.
He's like I'm going to FaceTimeyou, okay.
What's happening next?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
is this.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It is this the end result because and we can talk
about this, you've openly talkedabout it on the podcast that
you've had a hair transplant.
I was like did you mention tothem that you have done that
before getting all this chemicalwarfare going on in your hair
to try and curl it?
He was like, yeah, I didmention it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I was like, oh, my goodness, I'm, I'm nervous, I'm
nervous I was actually nervousas well, but it turned out all
right, didn't chanel?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
the perm was.
It was a defining era in yourlife it was the perm was perming
, done, tick, boom, move on.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Never do it again, for sure never, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You promise, promise, I promise I like your hair
straight.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's the only straight thing about you that is
true, that is true.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Thank you, chanel, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
it also hides the bald patches.
That was horrible, that was sohorrible, she mean girl.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
She is a mean girl.
Mean girl.
Listen, Chanel, we're so happythat you're here in the podcast,
but we actually have a fewbullet points to get through
before we're going to introduceyou properly.
That's all right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Is that all right?
Go and sit in the corner withthe wine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I tell you what I'm going to crack open this lovely
bottle of wine for you.
Do you see how fancy we've gonefor you?
Have a look, We've gone verynice.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Read it out loud for everyone.
Whispering Angel.
Oh, that did something to thatASMR.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yes, that made me go goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't give me goosebumps.
Is that what we're calling itnowadays?
Are we gonna?
Is it gonna?
It's gonna pop.
Are you over there?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, it's gonna it's not coming.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh my God, max, keep screwing.
It's stuck, it's stuck, keepscrewing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh my God, Brad, this disappointment reminds me of my
date with you.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, we got it.
Smells pretty good actually.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Now this is actually quite expensive wine, isn't it?
Whisper of an Angel.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It is over the £10 marks.
That is expensive for you.
It for you it is um, yeah, itis.
Do you know what?
Right?
I don't understand why well, Ikind of do.
I don't understand why they'rein bars, why some bottles of
alcohol have to be as expensiveas they try to charge like I get
it with champagne like moebollinger.
If you go to like a supermarket, it's like a 40 50 quid number.
(05:18):
If you buy that in a, in a bar,sometimes it's like over 100
pounds crazy isn't that crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I actually inquired once about a bottle of smirnoff
and some mixers for a group ofpeople how drunk were you, quite
drunk.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
How many lines down were you?
Uh, excuse me I'm wholesomethese days oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Lots of, yeah, lots of lines to get in.
Um, it was over 100 pound for abottle of smirnoff, which is
like 15 pound in tesco.
So how many did you buy?
Two right?
Here we go, glug, glug, bitchchanel, would you like some
whispering angel?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I would love some whispering angel, sorry I keep
whacking the microphone with theglass podcaster.
You should also know that we'vealready had a bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We are doing a rose test.
We did.
We had to see what we likedbecause, chanel, you were
talking about this amazingchicken wine, chicken wine.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, so it's a big thing on tiktok.
It's, it's chicken wine andwhispering angel are the big
ones on tiktok at the moment.
Whispering angel is veryupmarket, very bougie.
Chicken wine is slightly lessbougie, but apparently people
really like it I like thechicken wine.
I thought it was very nice andsweet.
And what did you say?
You said it went down likefruit juice, didn't you, benji?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
yeah, I just well, I just said it was going down
quite well.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But you swallow easy, so that makes sense.
I do swallow easy Chanel'snodding.
Why does Chanel know that?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Brad is happy drinking anything out of this
cocktail gin goblet that he'scurrently got.
Right now, the biggest glass ofwine I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, these are your glasses, benji, pardon,
these are your glasses, aren'tthey?
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Why do you not have Three wine glasses that match?
I don't need them to match whenit's just for me.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Sad to be all alone In the world.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Stage your reference.
Stage your reference.
Thank you, I do stage yourreferences All the time and
quite often they get cut, girl,they end up on the Cutting room
floor Bad girl?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Honestly, they do they go.
I know how that feels.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Apart from six, we got six.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And speaking of six, can you believe what episode
number this is today and whatseason are we on?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So it's a double six.
And what season of Drag Racejust came out.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's all about the sixes and you've had the demon
of the London drag scene on, so666, it all works out.
And what comes after?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Chanel number five.
Oh, we're going to get a letter.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We are, we are.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We know that a team member of six musical listeners
the podcast.
We are going to get a letter.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, but FYI, we actually love that show so much.
If you haven't seen it, go andsee it.
100% recommend.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I love that.
You've always got youradvertising brain on.
You can't sue us if we'repositive.
Oh my goodness, right, brad.
What have you got coming on upon the podcast today?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
well, I actually have a question to ask you, because
last time we were in the studiotogether, you were talking about
going on a family holiday toFrance and you were a little bit
unsure how it was going to panout.
So now that you're back, tellus all about it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, look, let's focus on the positives first.
Right, everyone who wentmarried is still married, Great.
Everyone who went friendsthey're still friends.
My dog's still alive Good.
So if we focus on those thingsthings it was a really positive
holiday.
But what I will say is therewas 12 family members over three
cottages in the middle of guamand when I say guam, I just mean
(08:32):
in the middle of absolutelynowhere and they were like
little kids as well, right mynephews were there.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I couldn't really leave them at home.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Um, okay, they're not screaming.
They are a lot of work.
We had had a pool, which wasgreat, but it was just Listen.
I'm not being ungrateful forhaving a close relationship with
my family.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
No, I think it's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Really, really love it, and it was for my dad's 70th
, et cetera.
I know he must have had mereally late in life because I'm
only 26.
But anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Not, but anyway, we'll move on um, not this again
more whispering angel, um itwas fine, it was really hot the
word, quite I mean you do have atan.
I'm so brown, yeah, very tanned.
Thank you.
Arguments so many.
Oh really, were you involved inthe arguments or were you on
the sidelines?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
was it the pot stirrer?
No, I know that's what youthink I am.
No, I was involved in one ofthem.
Listen, my family is one ofthose families that is quite an
argumentative family, like we doargue all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right, you'll get on afterwards, or is it a bit tense
?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, it might take a few days to like get it back to
normal, but like we do argue alot, we're not one of these very
quiet or loving families.
We're very outspoken, veryopinionated, Are very outspoken
very opinionated.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Are you surprised Not ?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
at all.
But no, it was good.
I'm pleased we went.
I don't know if I could do itagain for a few years.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Really.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Really Legit.
It was too much.
In fact, I've been talkingabout going away to like Grand
Canyon in January with the gays,just to like try and cover, let
loose yeah.
It's like it's not a holidayholiday since before lockdown.
My last holiday was actuallyjanuary 2020, lol, in thailand,
(10:09):
just before covid hit, and I'venot really done anything since.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I went to disney, but again with the family doesn't
count as a holiday, because I dothink family holidays are a
different mentality.
Right, you can't fully relax.
You probably weren't likegetting drunk and going wild I
didn't drink a single thing yeah, right.
So not that it necessarilyneeds to be about drinking, but
it should be about drinking.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
A holiday to me.
I want sun, I want somewhere toswim, I want men in shorts and
I want alcohol.
I love that.
I know you do, girl.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So I guess family holidays not quite the same sort
of vibe, for that reason.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But, as we said, it's so nice that you do have a
relationship with your family.
Being a queer person, I'm nevergonna take that for granted.
I really do love that, butsometimes it is it's testing.
It is testing.
Yeah, it was all good, thankyou great well, I'm glad you
survived.
I did survive and althoughobviously, if you watch on
instagram you may well have seenI've just come back from
guernsey.
Yes, because it was pride overthere.
Right, it was.
And podcast.
As you may know, last year wedid part of the campaign for
jersey, so they take it in turns.
So this year I went over toguernsey to do pride um again,
(11:10):
with some drag queens.
We did some shows.
It was wild always is with youyeah, I don't know what that is
like.
Am I the drama?
I think you are, I think I am,I think I'm the main character
in this, in this situation butno, it was so much, honestly,
genuinely, genuinely so much fun, Like anyone who came.
Thank you for coming and makingit what it was Like.
I think it's so important forthe Channelines, which are 20
years behind, at least for usbut, then London.
(11:32):
I say, yeah, it was just, it wasgood turnout, good vibes Dare.
I say it as a Jersey boy Iactually preferred being in
Guernsey for Pride.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Jersey obviously had more.
I would say, had more, spentmore money.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like the staging and stuff.
But Guernsey really nailed thevibe.
You heard it here firstpodcasters, that is the tea, and
now I'm going to get draggedfor that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You are?
Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But hey, it is what it is.
I had a great time.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Thank Great.
Well, I'm so glad you enjoyPride, thank you.
Now I'm going to try thisWhispering Angel, yeah, me too,
and I think Chanel is going tojoin us as well.
Welcome back, Chanel Can youstill hear us, chanel.
I've already finished my glass.
Well, let's have a little drink.
We're going to take a shortbreak and we'll be back with the
next section.
Cheers, cheers.
Right, we're back.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right, we're back.
I've actually had a quickcoffee because I really felt
that rosy going right to my head.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The whispering angel went to your head.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, and the chicken wine that you fed me earlier.
I've got to stop putting thingsin my mouth that you put near
me.
You're a bad influence, butvery excited to welcome back to
the podcast.
It is finally and this is yourproper introduction my love, so
just stay quiet for a second.
She is a drag queen.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm going to try again.
She is a tolerated drag queenfrom London.
She is the hostess with themostest and if you go to one of
her gigs, even if you go alonewe've said this before she will
make sure you feel included andvery much a part of the party.
She is a vocal sensation.
She is the one and only well,there's five of her technically
chanel number five I thinkthat's the nicest thing you've
(13:11):
ever said about me I lied, andeven then it wasn't very nice
literally I do mean it.
We did like a little socialhandbook a couple of episodes
ago and we did say and wegenuinely mean it we've seen you
do it like if people come toyour gigs and they're on their
own, you make sure they feel sowelcome and that is such an
important thing for ourcommunity.
So maybe that's one of thethings that draws towards you.
I don't know, or maybe it wasthe free lines, I don't know on
(13:33):
bingo, you mean no, as in toskip the queue, guys and get in
for free.
What are you on about?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I can't stand for this.
I can't be associated with thisI'm a big time hollywood
actress.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh, we missed that, but chanel you um host all over
london and beyond.
Right, don't you go to wales ona weekend?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
uh, not every weekend .
I couldn't keep up with thatmany trains but yeah, I go to
wales, I go to brighton.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I've been to manchester anywhere that will
pay me to be quite honest withyou I have a question, because
you go around all the towns andeverything you go anywhere
Grindr calls you.
We actually have a genuinequestion.
So you go to Wales quite oftenfor gigs.
I've seen that Now.
I've heard I've been to Walesonce, but I've never been out in
Wales.
I've heard they are big chaosdrinkers.
Is this true?
Oh, it's fantastic yeah is it?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So Cardiff, you go to Cardiff, yeah yeah.
So obviously it's capital city,so it's got all the vibes of,
like London, the party scene andeverything.
But the gay scene is a littlebit smaller and so there are a
few bars enough to kind of keepyou going for an evening, but
not the kind of breadth anddepth and variety that London
quite has.
But it's really a great set ofbars so you can really get
(14:42):
exactly what you want from theevening.
And my favourite thing aboutCardiff is they've got an entire
alley full of kebab placescalled Chippy Lane, chippy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Lane.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Chippy Lane and there's a sign and everything.
It is, honestly, possibly thebest place, possibly the worst
place you ever want to be at 2am.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh my goodness, it's incredible.
This sounds like heaven at 2am.
Cheesy chips on Chippy Lane.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
See you there.
I live on a Zempic street, soit's not, you do Chicken and
cheese and chips.
Oh it's fantastic, it doessound good.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And that would do you for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I have a question about Wales Now.
I know you're a little bit outthere.
We weren't going to talk toomuch just yet.
Is this true?
I love a rugby player.
I will say this is what I'veheard wow.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I will say especially Clapham as well.
They've got the rugby playersthey come in they go out.
I've done.
I thought it was a rugby night.
I was booked at the twoboroughs that were doing a rugby
night.
I spent the entire show goingoh my god, rugby players love
rugby players.
Got to the end and one of themcomes up.
You do know, we're a footballteam, right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That is brilliant.
I was mortified.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I think I can never go back.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I think I can never see any of them again.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do places rarely book you a second time Um?
You sort of turn up you blowtheir sound system and then you
just sort of hop on a train,you're horrible.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sorry, I know.
You're horrible Off on the.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Peloton.
Is that what it's called Pel,peloton, peloton.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh yeah, you do the.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Peloton right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, I love it.
She's well bougie, she's gother own.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I've got my own at home.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Fancy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But what I'm getting from this conversation is that
we meet you in Benji.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Is that Benji's had too much rosé Too?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
much rosé, and also we need to go to Cardiff for a
night out.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
You do, yeah, yeah, for sure yeah, I do two places
in cardiff.
So the golden cross which isgiving, I suppose if you were to
associate it with london itwould be giving like rvt, very
classic pub, classic pub, olderdrag, and like you go to worship
the drag like they love, likean older drag.
So mary golds, lots of theseolder drag queens, and then
there's mary's which is kind ofgiving the brewers, so it's a
(16:40):
bit more.
There's a little bit more rowdy, a little bit more feral.
The twinks behind the bar loveto give me far too many shots,
great had me at twinks.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah listen, I'm not gonna lie.
Next time you have gigs downthere, I actually think we
should go.
I think we should go we'll do aday trip, get the train, the
train is about two hours.
I'm not driving again.
Did you hear about the story?
Just drive, drive to write it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No bad decision.
The drive there was fine.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What I hadn't really considered was the driving over
drive back.
Yeah bad, no, no this one waslike are you actually okay to
drive bench?
I was like, yeah, of course Iam getting behind the wheel.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I was like, oh, my god the sweats the shakes I am
hold my wine glass that was bad,remember I had to um pull over
and stop halfway for a littlebreather yeah, that was the
night.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I was like, yeah, buy some shots.
And I had you in my car and alittle notification called my
phone like 120 quid, oh someonebought shots for the entire
fucking bar.
That was the help night thehelp night that was actually
told that story?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think we have it is one of my favorite stories ever
.
Yeah, we were out for a gaynetworking event, weren't we?
And obviously we got a littlebit drunk.
At the networking event, westarted to make friends and we
were like, guys, let's carry onthe party.
We were staying in Brightonanyway, so we had a little
Airbnb around the corner.
We took a group of gays out toBar Broadway Bar Broadway in
(17:57):
Brighton.
Ooh, bad decision.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Always a bad decision .
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Always a bad decision .
I mean always bad decision.
I mean great decision.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We love great decision at the time yeah, poor
decision the morning, oh mygoodness the drinks are so cheap
, the vibe is so great, we gotso hyper, you went missing and I
was asking everyone's like haveyou seen, benji, I come out of
the bar.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did the ghost in the basement game?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
is there a ghost?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
have you not heard this?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
what so bar?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
broadway is obviously .
It's been there for like ever,like the building.
So in the basement, where thetoilets are, there's a blocked
up like tunnel.
There's a tunnel from there tothe pavilion that they used to
smuggle prostitutes in and outfor, like the dignitaries, and
so there's apparently, like adead child ghost in the toilets.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why is it going to be a child?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know, or there's lots of dead ghosts, etc
, etc.
Down there, Apparently.
That's the rumor.
So it is ghosts, etc, etc downthere, Apparently.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's the rumour.
So every time I go to thetoilets there I'm like I mean,
why have you got a cold Chanel?
I mean I very nearly became oneof the ghosts.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, you really did, Because you went missing.
And then I said to everyone hasanyone seen Benji?
Go outside?
There you are in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Not just in the gutter Outside Subway, to be
specific.
Outside, go outside.
There you are in the gutter,not just in the gutter outside
subway, to be specific outsidesubway.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Outside the subway you've entered the pizza, the
pizza place next door to subway.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Very Italian pizza, very good no darling, I barely
made it to the subway in thegutter on all fours spewing his
guts out.
Oh no, at least into the gutter.
I was at least like, yeah, itcould have been worse, you could
have been in the sea?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I checked his phone.
I just sent him help.
Yes, help, Just the word, helpconstantly.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And I came over to you and I was like are you okay?
And you just went help, it wasliterally help help, help, help,
help.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Why have you just spent 120 quid on my phone?
Help, help, help.
And what does he do?
Cracks out FaceTime.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Look at Benji.
Everyone needed to see it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh God, so bad.
They made you go share a bed.
That was not the one.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You shared a bed and those hotels in Brighton some of
them are.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was Airbnb, we were fine.
Yeah, I mean that was fun.
Yeah, but Wales next time.
Yes, for sure, cardiff, yeah,so Chanel where is your
favourite area or type of crowd?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I have to say as much as I'm horrible to South London
.
I bully people that live inSouth London because I don't
believe that they have the tube.
It's true, they've got one line.
Don't laugh.
They've got one line.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The Northern, the Northern line.
Ironically, Ironically they'vegot the Northern line.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
South of the river, but I really enjoy South London.
I've just started working atthe Rising, which is the brand
new one in Elephant and Castle.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I heard that is amazing vibe there.
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I've heard this Really lovely, like very new,
very fresh.
They are absolutely bringing itat the moment and they have
once or twice in the next fewmonths.
So if you would like to comeand see me, you might as well.
And then I love Clapham.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I love Clapham.
We I mean we are around Claphamquite a lot.
Obviously, I live up the roads.
Yeah, I love Clapham too.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
We do love Clapham.
I do find that Clapham hasperhaps a slightly older
clientele, because I supposeSoho is what you instantly hear
of when you go.
Oh, going to London, going toSoho.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So Clapham is very much like people that live in
London gays that live in Londonand know exactly where they're
going and exactly what they like.
So they're a little bit moreestablished.
They know what they want andtherefore it means that they can
have a lovely time until 2amand then they can be in bed by
half past 2 because they live inClapham.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Speaking of Drag Race , season 6 has been announced.
Have you seen the Meet theQueens?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm sorry.
What season has been announced?
Season 6 have you seen the Meetthe Queens?
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
What season has been announced?
Season had to be done.
It had to be done.
Oh, we're going to get so sued.
But yeah, have you seen theMeet the Queens?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I have not seen the Meet the Queens yet.
Okay, I'll be honest with you.
I know I'm going to be a badgay for saying this.
I'm a bit over Drag Race.
Is that really bad to say?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I've had enough of playing games.
It's, I'm with you.
There are so many franchisesgoing on.
I feel like we had canada versethe world clashed with global
all-stars, and now we've got uk,as well as other franchises
going on it's a bit much.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And don't get me wrong, I actually love drag race
.
I love what it stands for, Ilove what it does for the queer
community and I love theplatform and the doors is open
for these amazing queerperformers.
So I'm all for that.
I just think there's a bit toomany seasons too many.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I also just side note I find it hilarious that the
whole like meet the queen'saesthetic is bong girl and
they've absolutely taken thatfrom tamara from the last season
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah hilarious.
Um, also the promo picture.
Right, it's all the girls intheir bond outfits.
And then there's like alipstick being shot across the
picture as a bullet.
Why didn't they use like abullet vibrator?
(22:26):
Wouldn't that be so much fun?
it is still on the bbc I wasgonna say it's the bbc oh, come
on, the queen would have lovedit.
We all know the queen had abullet, though I do love that
the individual photos is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Behind every gay person there is an even gayer
person and it's a little shadowof themselves that stood behind
themselves in the background.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah, really count.
No, it's good, I am with you.
I do think there's too much andI feel like it's almost run its
course, but I don't know.
Chanel, come on, it's yourindustry, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I think that we should abolish Drag Race and do
Squid Game, but with drag queens.
There are too many.
Some of them need to go Now.
That is a show I would watch.
I need just any kind of realityTV show, but drag queens.
Oh my gosh, I want a mix ofDrag Race, but Big Brother I
(23:20):
want to see the behind thescenes oh yes, I want to see
them all living in a housetogether Like Top Model, like
they all living in a housetogether like top model like
they all live in a housetogether, but they have to do
the challenges and then one ofthem gets eliminated.
Uh, if we're putting 12 hugecharacters in a room, let's keep
the cameras on 24 hours a daythat is going to be amazing tv.
Let's starve them.
Let's really let them suffer.
(23:41):
Can you tell that I'm not ondrag?
Race because I'd love for thisto happen, so I can watch it,
but not if I was doing it oh mygosh.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, or like bear grills meets drag race, yes
using a using a heel to afucking murderer all they get
left with is a suitcase full ofdrag.
That's tv.
If there's a producer listeningto this, that's a tv show.
Sorry, but that is a tv show.
Tell them they're on the nextseason of drag race, but
actually land them on in themiddle of guam might be against
(24:09):
the geneva convention well, I'venever heard of that.
The what convention?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
perfectly legal convention as far as now listen,
am I gonna watch uk drag race,of course, like that is my
favorite of all the seasonsbecause obviously we know a lot
of the queens we we see them outand about.
So yeah, I will be watching it,but am I a little bit over Drag
Race?
As an overall thing, probablyyeah.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I think I am a little bit.
I'm not sure if you want toanswer this question.
Chanel, have you applied forDrag Race before?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Next question.
Thank you.
Next question.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
OK, next question Would you still consider doing
Drag Race?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think if you do it right and if you are incredibly
lucky, it can be an absolutecredit to your career.
It can really really changeyour career.
But I do see some people thatperhaps haven't had the best
edit, haven't perhaps done themost that they can with the
platform and I I see them andthey seem to be not quite happy
(25:12):
with how they've come across onthe show and come across
afterwards.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So I think that's the thing right, because you don't
have control over the edit, sothe producers are going to push
a narrative that maybe you'reyou've not signed yourself up
for, or you know that.
That's even going on, rightuntil you then watch the
episodes back and think hang ona second, I did say those things
or did pull those looks, butit's edited in like such a way
to make it more exaggerated thanwhat it is.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, but at the same time, you said those things
yeah, that's the whole likedetox thing, isn't it like,
don't be like.
It's the edit you said.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I'm not the villain, but I did say that everyone else
in the room was horrificallyugly and didn't deserve to be
here, so I don't know whythey're painting me to be the
villain.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sure, I mean any of the drag queens I know that have
done Drag Race, that have donewell, have all said if you go
into it knowing that it's a showand that it is going to be
heavily produced, rather thantrying to think standing on your
own two feet and it's acompetition, if you feed into
the producers, you will dobetter.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, of course, because if you give the content,
they're going to love that,right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They have to make a TV show at the end of the day.
I've said to several peoplebecause I know several people
that have auditioned for DragRace and some of them have since
now gotten on Drag Race thathave been really upset about the
fact that they've not gotten onand go why haven't I got on?
I think I'm really good.
People seem to think that I'mreally good and I really deserve
(26:32):
to be here.
I said well, they're not goingto put 12 first outs on the same
season, so they're going tosave you to go first in season
12 I mean, if we make it aseason 12, if we make it to
season 12 but the same way,they're never going to put the
12 best drag queens in the uk ondrag race, because it would be
a really bad television show.
It would be a great competition, but it wouldn't be a good tv
show.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And they are making a tv show at the end of the day
and speaking of competition,chanel, we know that you're a
shady little bitch, right, andwe say that with absolute love
and adoration I don't know whatyou mean and podcasters.
We've asked chanel to come upwith a little game.
A game a game.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
How are we spelling that?
G-a-y-a-n absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's the only way to spell game trademark.
Um, no, we have asked you tocome up with a little game.
So podcast is.
We're going to take a littlebreak.
We're going to top of ourglasses.
Does someone say top?
And then, because I'm at thebottom, of mine uh, and then
we're going to come back andplay a little game with Brad and
I head to head.
Did someone say head?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Chanel's face keeps lighting up every time you speak
.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Chanel is just messing with me constantly on
Grindr my battery I had to rockyou.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Social battery, phone battery everything is depleted.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Anyway, we're going to take a little break and when
we come backanel is going to beplaying a little game that we
like to call mr and mr benji andbrad edition oh, podcasters,
you know what that sound means.
That means that is all we'vegot time for on this week's
episode of my big game podcast,part one, don't forget.
I know, chanel, you're shocked,but one I know if they come
(28:02):
back.
Next week, podcasters, you'll beable to catch up the rest of
the episode with Miss Chanel,number five.
So if you don't already, pleasemake sure you head over to our
Instagram it's at Big GayPodcast or our website, which is
wwwmybiggaypodcastcom, and justsign up to our mailing list.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
And also get in touch with your queer diaries.
We want to hear your stories.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yes, we do, but, like we said, that's all we've got
time from this week's part oneuntil next time see you next
wednesday, thank you.
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