“If presence is the antidote to rumination, then every moment of awareness becomes an opening into healing.”
Rumination can feel heavy, circular, and unresolved. But what if presence is the key to breaking that cycle?
In this conversation, Theresa is joined by licensed marriage and family therapist Nancy Yen Cosseron as Walker prepares for trial. They explore how rumination shows up in everyday life, why it can feel protective, and how presence—whether in the form of another person, nature, or simple grounding practices—helps shift us toward healing reflection.
What you’ll learn:
→ How rumination differs from reflection
→ Why the nervous system often fuels repetitive thought cycles
→ Simple ways to bring yourself back into presence and safety
Nancy Yen Cosseron, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist who brings decades of clinical experience and a compassionate lens to conversations about healing, presence, and relational support.
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Episode Chapters
00:00 Rumination and presence
02:02 Nancy joins Theresa for today’s conversation
03:23 Rumination as heavy and unresolved
06:39 Shifting rumination into reflection
14:59 A triggering moment and looping thoughts
23:38 Awareness practices and the Mind Bell app
29:55 The tiger story and nervous system healing
38:53 The power of presence in surgery
45:29 Final reflections and hope
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