April 15, 2025 • 43 mins
Kody Brown is courting a potential fourth wife, Robyn, and travels five hours to see her. This is a point of contention, as the distance was previously stated differently. The wives express mixed feelings about Kody courting a new wife. They begin to realize that Kody's time will be divided even further.
We get up to speed with how Kody and Robyn met. Robyn expresses that she doesn't want to hurt anyone by joining the family, but Kody may be influencing her perception. This highlights existing family dynamics and tensions.
The wives are seen moving furniture to prepare Christine's room for the new baby, which becomes a metaphor for their roles and relationships.
We discuss the show's production and question certain aspects, such as why Robyn's home appears sparsely furnished. We also note inconsistencies in the timeline and details.
Despite the family's initial optimism, cracks and fractures are already appearing.
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Original show episode description: Kody heads south to court his potential fourth wife, Robyn. Meanwhile, back home, the wives express their true feelings about their possible new sister-wife as they prepare for Christine's new baby.
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(00:01):
Let me call you sweetheart. I'm in love with you.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You.
Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
Do not make me a victim. Sweetie, just look at the
(00:22):
mountain. That's what you saw that day.
Just the knife and the kidneys over all these years and the
sacrifices that I made to love you.
(00:46):
We're we're doing great and that's what's important is that
I would give us exceeds expectations.
This is it. Yes, that's exactly what I'm
saying. I mean, someone else might give
us meets expectations and then I'd be upset but like, that's
OK. If we compared it to other
people that meet expectations and are meeting expectations,
you know we are still exceeding those expectations.
(01:08):
Agreed 100% We're going to be jumping into season 1 episode 2
of Sister Wives. This is my sister wives podcast.
I am Chris and we are here with.Allie, that's me.
Yes, I know. I didn't give her any warning
that I was handing the baton. I love it.
I'm. Also, I had my eyes closed.
We'll see. So I'm just jumping into it and
(01:29):
we are doing, like I said, season 1, episode 2, courting a
Fourth Wife is the title of the episode.
And so this is only our second episode, as you heard in our
first one, which you should havelistened to.
Obviously, we recap the first episode with Grace, Candor, and
the in depth analysis that you come to expect from us that you
(01:52):
don't come to expect. You don't even know what to
expect. Now I'm just being crazy.
Well, I, I think you recapped itquite well and we did try to
give them grace at least you know, we did.
We did acknowledge some some highs and some lows slash
typicals and here we are yet again.
(02:13):
Well, and once again, just to reiterate, I mean, re watching
the show in the future, we have perspective on things from a
different point of view than youwould have had when you first
watched it. Which is funny because you were
saying like, oh, it would be crazy to go back to when this
first aired and what you would have thought about it, not
knowing what you know in the future, you know?
That's the whole thing. And they, I think they kind of
(02:35):
started off this episode in likean interview.
The the first thing that I recall seeing was them saying,
and maybe it was Meri that said they, they had like a five to
seven-year learning curve with how their family operates.
(02:59):
So they're in X amount of years now and you know, think that
things are going OK because theyhad this five to seven-year
learning curve. And it's like, OK, so we've
already gone through some of this, it sounds.
So we've already gone through some of these struggles and some
of these challenges, and we got to a good place and now let's
fuck it all up. Well, this is it.
(03:21):
And you're right, Meri said thatthey are, they've been married
for 16 years and that their first five to seven years were
this huge learning experience, quote UN quote, from her.
And you know, to take it a step back, I feel like this episode
is a catch up episode. Like we had our first episode
where they introduced us to the wives and we met the family,
blah, blah, blah. And now they're like bringing us
(03:43):
up to speed with what's happenedwith Kody and Robyn.
And it's interesting because of what we talked about in the
first episode where there's something about the timeline
with the introduction to the family that they're getting
married, that he's going to ask Robyn to come into the family.
It's not just, oh, I'm courting someone.
We've skipped over that. And now we're like, she's coming
(04:04):
into the family. And now episode 2 is about like
bringing us back to how this even is or what the story is
with them. And it's very much like a back
and forth between the family in Lehigh and Kody getting ready
and then Kody leaving and Kody going and then Robyn and her
kids and their life. So it's like a catch up episode.
Yeah, I agree. I think when Robyn came in, he
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had been married to Christine for 16 years.
I think it was longer with Meri and they had they done a whole
bunch of stuff in that time, right?
And so they're going through allof this.
Christine makes a reference at some point to the fact that
she's pregnant while he's courting Robyn and that that's a
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little complicated, right? Like that it it seems like maybe
she's not getting the attention that she would desire when
preparing to birth one of his children.
As a pregnant wife. You know, at #6 I don't know,
she's, she's been through a little bit and he is
(05:14):
preoccupied, which is super fun.I'm sure for wife #3 supposed to
be the easy wife, just keeping things smooth in the family.
So interesting, right? I, I don't know, Meri always
wanted this extra wife. So she is open arms and
encouraging it. And I think some of the dynamics
(05:38):
start to show. They start to, they start to
play out a little bit. Yes and Christine even at one
point does say no more wives or I don't want anymore wives.
Like, she alludes to the fact that like, she's not interested
in more wives, even though Meri is being like, well, you know,
it's always been on my mind and I've, you know, blah, blah,
blah. And it's always been a thing.
And you know, I bring it up blah, blah, blah.
(05:59):
And Christine's like no more wives.
It was kind of this whole thing that like they start to talk
about Robyn and then every single wife gives this take on
why it's a challenge or a struggle to have this additional
wife to come in. And then they still are all
like, but sure, let's add another wife.
And then Kody's like, it's been a long time since I courted
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someone, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And it's like, yeah, what are
you doing? And nobody wants this.
Yeah, except him. Like what are you doing?
And I guess Meri, which we get into later in the episode, yeah,
a little bit more of Meri's details with the situation, but
it. Was something.
Right. And one of the things with the
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opening of the episode is that the wives are all baby clothes
shopping because Christine, you know, oh, oh, I'm pregnant.
And I also have to say I think it is utterly bizarre that they
know the gender of the baby. And I have to say it because
these people are fundamentalist,whatever the fuck they are.
But Christina's are babies in hospitals.
(07:02):
Well, OK, yes, Amen. I'm just saying if you're going
by God's rule book, God's word, God's whatever does it say in
the Bible, thou shalt find the gender of your baby.
I'm just saying I think that it's very contemporary.
It's very non religious background to be like I'm going
to know the sex of my baby I think.
(07:26):
Amen. Why do they know the gender?
I am confused by this. I I support you being confused
by it. Well, it is what it is like, Oh
my gosh. Cuz like, I don't know, I'm such
a traditionalist that I feel like I might not want to know
the gender of my baby. And I'm definitely not from like
a fundamentalist sect of like polygamist whatnotness.
(07:46):
Hey listen, we all pick and choose what we want to you know,
care about in our quote UN quotereligions.
So. True.
True. And they do go fast and loose
with what they care about in their religion.
Yes, let's be. Real, yes.
So after the initial intro of the episode, they start kind of
bringing Robyn more into the story.
Like at first it's about the wives and then it's like Robyn
(08:07):
and she has these, you know, I don't, they're not interviews.
I don't know what they're called, but where she's speaking
to the camera. So I guess it's an interview and
she says that she's working to support her.
Kids spotlight, I'd call. It a spotlight Robyn.
Spotlight. I love that Robyn.
Spotlight Robyn when she's got her spotlight, Yes.
(08:27):
No, that's that's true. Turn the camera.
On they give her great lighting too, while she's young and
that's beautiful. And look at her girl.
And look at her girl. Fuck Robyn.
But she says I'm working to support these kids and my
thought is doing what she's talking about working.
There's so many things from her past which I've been.
(08:48):
Man on ATV show Chris. Straight up, because what else
is she doing? There's other times in the
future in the show where she alludes to things about her past
and about her life, but she never fills in details.
And this is something that's going to come up, so I'm not
even going to spend time on it. But like, even now she's
(09:08):
working. She's doing what?
What is she doing? She never can tell you what
she's doing, where she's where she's done it or anything like
that. She's just working.
Well, she's already lost her purity, so she's sucking Kody's
Dick off camera. That is probably true.
I love how I'm asking for. I love how I'm asking for the I
(09:32):
love knowing I'm I'm asking for the hypothetical of like, what
is Robyn doing? Like she's working and you're
like she's sucking Kody's Dick. That is probably.
True. Think it's possible?
No, I mean it's, I think it's more likely than not.
Thank you. It also was weird to me because
Christine says that Kody is going 5 hours to see Robyn and
(09:54):
in the pilot in our first episode they say 4 hours.
Now, I am I splitting hairs? Sure.
But this is what the show is allabout is saying four and then
it's really five. And then later in the future you
turn out at six like they are these, that's who these people
are. So Christine says it's five
hours later. Later in the episode, Kody's
like, oh, I go 5 hours. It's like, why was it 4 hours
(10:15):
the last episode? That drives me nuts.
And it's a fairpoint. I mean, the the biggest piece of
that puzzle, though, is that he's already abandoning the
three other wives for X amount of days to quote UN quote, court
Robyn. And they're just now starting to
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get a glimpse of what it's goingto be like to have their husband
X amount of days less than what they do now and not feeling
super great about it. But he's still pumped and he's
still on that road and he's still, you know, taking his
teenage daughters to babysit herkids so they can go on date
night. I mean it.
This is some interesting courting behavior, let's just
(11:00):
say some that I've never seen. Right counter to the normal
courting behavior that we're very familiar with.
Oh wait, yes, the normal polygamist families that I see
date is very different from these so.
But I agree with me taking the kids with to Robyns.
It's like there's this thing about introducing Robyn to the
family, so bringing wives with, bringing the children with, and
(11:22):
then, you know, yeah, they're going to babysit while we go out
on a date. Like, OK, so this is a day that
you're not with your wives and they are pointing it out.
They are like we have days now that are not with our husband
because he's with his girlfriend.
And he's recognizing their behavior in the exact moment
they're saying that this is a struggle.
Yeah. And he's still like, well, I
(11:45):
guess it's just what I got to do.
Yeah, You know, like it's just what I got to do.
Yes, he says that he needs to find a balance between being
faithful to his wives and datingor courting someone else.
Yes, which is? But he's not actually finding a
balance, he's just disregarding his other wives and continuing
to court the 4th person. This is totally a thing for him.
(12:06):
He says what? He needs to do.
You're right, this is totally how it starts.
This is what I need to do while I'm actually not doing that.
I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, I'm just gonna keep
letting Robyn suck my Dick and think my wives off.
And then telling the camera during interviews I know I need
to find a balance when he doesn't have.
He has no intention of finding abalance.
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He never wanted to find a balance.
Also, they do cut to Meri talking about the beginning with
Robyn and there is some discrepancy.
And I'm going to say this about the book later where I, I don't
know the details at this moment,but there's some discrepancy on
how Kody met Robyn. Was it at a church function?
Was it at a church function, friend's yard where Meri
(12:50):
introduced them? There's different stories from
different people, but the general consensus at this point
in, you know, episode 2 of the first season is that Meri
introduces them and Meri feels like there could be a friendship
with Robyn. She really wanted that she.
So that led me to spiral in a couple of different directions
(13:11):
because it was 1. Is she feeling like the 4th
wheel in this like family situation?
Right. So it kind of ties back to the
first episode, the Meri's contribution to the family, the
whatever. Like is she already feeling on
the outs? Like all I do is pull teeth.
(13:32):
Yes. Yeah, really.
Yeah, and I so I don't know whatthat is, but it feels like she
is needing somebody else in the relationship to help balance her
and that's why she's pushing forthis and and has been seemingly
for a long time. So so Meri had a desire out of
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this this for 4th relationship and that was very very apparent.
I did write down that Meri wanted a friend and Robyn I
also. When Kody was showing up for the
date with Robyn she had just prepared her kids dinner and it
was penne noodles with canned marinara sauce and shredded
(14:15):
cheddar cheese and boy it lookedso yummy so.
I feel like this is a thing thathappens in the the Sister Wives
universe is that people generally recognize that Robyn
is a shit cook. Yeah, period.
Yeah, that was nasty. That was nasty.
I mean, I'd eat it, but it was not an effort of a meal, let's
(14:36):
just say. And once again, I what I don't
understand is these people are being filmed for ATV show.
I'm sorry if someone if a crew'scoming over and you're feeding
your kids, maybe you're so preoccupied with how you look
and how things are that you don't think about the food.
OK, but I think it's more likelythat you would think like I
should actually make something that makes it look like I feed
my kids. Well.
Like I don't know what the fuck I.
Think about the crew. I'm thinking about the fact that
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you're trying to win yourself a husband.
But I'm thinking about like, having a crew there, like,
you're being filmed like, and this is what you're going to
present. Like this is what I feed my
kids. Is this crap.
Like you couldn't even just buy some things for one meal.
Like give me a break. It was, it was gross.
It was gross. I wouldn't have eaten it.
It was absolutely terrible. It also just like the kids and
(15:18):
the cameras is pretty funny and adorable.
Like I think that was the momentthat Robyn's kids were like in
the driveway going bonkers and she was trying to get him in the
car or something like that. And it was like, God, rein them
in for this TV show. But also like I've tried to rein
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in a child before. That is not simple.
And they've actually, with a lotof the kids done super well at
that. Really in theory, like it was
just, it was an interesting thought about how the children
behave on the show. It could be a lot worse than
what it is. Let's be real.
They do pretty decent. Getting kids into the vehicle
thing is always interesting to watch because I'm not a parent.
(16:01):
And so while I'm watching it, I'm going like, well, yeah,
Amen. Like, I get it.
Sometimes it's a struggle to getkids in the car.
But there are other times where she's almost like feigning A
frustration. I feel like she's, like,
dragging her shoulders. And she's a little performative
about her. Like, look at me.
I've always got to try to wrangle these kids.
And I'm like, did you just let them misbehave just to like try
to direct them in front of the camera?
Like it felt a little fake to me, but I totally get it about
(16:25):
the kids thing. It just seemed like that was not
an instance of it and something felt disingenuous about it to
me. That's fair on my my main
highlight of the moment was her white Old Navy cargo pants.
Oh my God, yes. And I really like God IA wish I
had the body that I could still wear them but BI fucking loved
(16:46):
the Old Navy cargo pass. Oh my gosh.
There are some pieces. OK, I love that I'm saying
pieces. There are some articles of
clothing that they wear that do harken back to our past and
maybe some days where we were younger and thinner, I don't
know. Made me feel young and free.
Yeah, I love that. I love that for you.
Thank you. Then a transition into the wives
in the house in Lehigh, and they're moving furniture around
(17:11):
because Christine, you know, is expecting this child.
And Truly, so they know her gender and they know her name
and she's not even on the earth yet.
So that's amazing. Well, I guess she is on the
earth. OK, Anyway, I got to get over
that point. I got to move on.
I got to move on. Truly is going to be with us any
day. So they're going to put her in
Christine's room and we know that it's her and her name is
Julie Lovett. She's not even here.
(17:32):
But they're putting, they're moving all the furniture around.
They're moving the furniture as they do and they are.
And it's so funny because I lovethat they chose this activity.
Maybe it was productions suggestion, but it's something
to film so that we could see these wives interacting together
and kind of their nests. It was interesting because.
(17:52):
Meri. It was so great because Meri was
like brick house. She was like, I have the plan, I
know what needs to happen. I'm going to move this entire
fucking wardrobe by myself from place to place to place as
Christmas Christine is like, oh,I don't know, maybe this wall or
maybe that wall literally like let's just.
Just making it seem like it was no big deal to keep hauling this
(18:13):
fucker around. She was like, yeah, no, maybe
let's try it over there. Let's try it here.
Let's try it there. Let's try it there.
No. OK, so that's her style.
Let's try this. Let's try that.
Let's try that. Meanwhile, she is carrying truly
who is a woman and that. We're gonna know this and
whatever. She's pregnant.
She's the size of a house. Second, truly, as far as we
know, identifies as a female in the womb and.
(18:36):
That's very 2025 of us yes, thank you for saying that Ali I
I agree truly. They have called her her on the
show and her and they've named her even though she.
Doesn't what they are. She's not born yet, but they're
they're Christine is like, well,maybe here, maybe there, who
knows? Like, let's see, it's like, did
you even take a second? Now as people that are space
(18:56):
planners, you didn't take a second to think what would be
best to start with. No, they literally just wanted
to try in every single place to see if one of them fit.
And have you seen the furniture?It's not gonna look great
anywhere. Right, no matter where it is.
Turns out to be the problem. It's not gonna look good
anywhere. Nothing about what you're trying
to do is going to so sorry. Yes, she can keep putting it on
(19:19):
different walls in a different places, but the result is the
same. Is the same maybe she was just
looking for that clearance around the the crib, right?
I think that's what they were going for was clearance of crib.
I'd love to think that there wasan actual goal.
I that's great. I it led to this like laughing
moment where there started to befrustration about moving the
(19:41):
furniture so many times, yes, where they all just like, haha
and said, yeah, we've worked through our issues.
Yes. Like that was like a line.
We've worked through our issues totally.
Like do we say that out loud if we've worked through our issues?
Like, I don't know. Maybe, yeah, maybe you could,
but they were literally playing out there.
They're tropes, They're whatever.
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Like Christine was like, I'm male, fun space, and I have no
idea what's going on. Meri's like, I'm going to move
this fucking furniture and Janelle's like, I just always
feel like this is just what we end up doing standing in the
corner, and I'm like, this is who you people are.
It was actually a great example of who they were, and I
appreciated that for what it was.
That's accurate. Did I want to slap Christine
across? Her pregnant face.
(20:24):
Yes, I did because I was like, bitch, you, you needed to bring
these people here with a mission.
If you're going to ask people tomove furniture, try to have a
goal. Try to have a first.
Bringed her in though, like. Think she should have moved on
the furniture herself. No, like, bitch, that's stupid.
We're not doing that. Can you see why this wouldn't
work there? That's not going to work.
Let's not. Maybe Meri had to.
(20:45):
Keep sweet and flip the bed to every wall like.
Meri had to keep sweet and she had to keep it like, I'm going
to go with the plan even though there's no plan.
Thanks, Christine. You know they they then very
smoothly transition into how Robyn changes everything in the
midst of moving. Furniture, right?
It was a beautiful thing. Thank you, Puddle Monkey.
(21:07):
Beautiful thing. Robyn changes everything, okay.
That's a nice transition. And then also like how Robyn
says she doesn't want to hurt anyone.
So once again, Robbins in her spotlight and she doesn't want
to hurt anyone. And I think it's interesting
that she says she doesn't want to hurt anyone.
It's like it's setting up her narrative for the entire rest of
the time that she's on the show.Oh, I don't want to hurt anyone.
(21:30):
It's like, right. Amen.
But you, I don't know. I can't.
I don't even know what to say. I think it's odd that there is
an assumption of hurt because what is supposedly happening is
that you are joining a family that is welcoming you as an
(21:51):
additional wife. And so why in her mind would she
be hurting anyone? And and So what I think is
interesting about this is that Ihighly doubt she's close enough
with any of the wives that they would be talking trash about any
(22:11):
of those three to Robyn at this point.
Yeah, very unlikely. Yeah.
So if she is feeling like someone is hurt, she's hearing
that from only one person. From Kody.
From Kody, I suspect that. Maybe Meri, but yeah, OK.
(22:33):
But I don't think Meri. OK.
Yes, yeah. I don't know.
I think it's from Kody. And to be honest, I think that
that's what gave Robyn the weight that she needed to get
where she needed was the fact that she knew already that she
(22:54):
was above the others. And that's because of what he
told her, Kody said. And he is telling her things
like that throughout all of this.
Yes, Which is why they're where they are today, because he says
things differently to her than he has to any of the rest of
them. Yes, he is already feeding
things to Robyn. So we're not discussing it in
(23:15):
the interview. We're not talking about it from
production standpoint. It's not part of the the
episode, but he is already setting things up to be like,
oh, I just want to make sure that we're not doing anything
whatever with the wives. Like he's planting seeds with
her to have her feeling already that she needs to say like, oh,
I don't want to upset anybody and I don't want to make anybody
(23:36):
mad. Well, but also in this whole mix
of while he's courting her, Christina's pregnant.
And we learn in this episode that she hadn't even met Robyn
for months, for months while he has apparently been doing this
and she is at her most vulnerable state, about to burst
(23:58):
with a baby. And he's doing this and also
being inconsiderate on some of the all these other different
levels. Like what?
What is really happening here? I mean, that's a lot that's
happening right now. And when she says this in an
interview, when they are talked,I don't know what triggered this
response. They don't have like producer or
director asking questions, but she brings she brings this up
(24:22):
and she says she lost her best friend.
And when she's talking about this, we don't hear enough
detail and that's painful. But that she heard about Robyn
in depth before meeting her. So I feel like as a thing, I
don't know why it is that maybe Meri and Janelle were let in
about this more. Maybe their feelings just
(24:42):
weren't as hurt. Obviously Meri knew Robyn
earlier. But like why it is that your
pregnant wife is hearing about this woman that you are courting
seriously months into it and hasher feelings hurt, rightfully
so. Like that's insane.
There was something there either, I'm not sure that
Christine was unaware that he was courting her or if there had
(25:03):
just not been a strategic enoughplan for them to be introduced
and meet yet. But Christine felt out of the
loop in some fashion, and she made that very clear.
And then Kody had some sort of response about it, right?
And they had this little sob fest or whatever.
(25:24):
This is also one of those moments that was just very
bizarre and I'm not quite sure if it what if it happened
exactly as it's shown on camera or if it's like snippets of it.
Christine has her crying moment about feeling like she lost her
best friend and then Kody has a tear up moment, but his tear up
(25:47):
moment involves Christine sayinghim saying something along the
lines of how he's been struggling.
Poor me. Boo Hoo.
And then Christine goes, oh, you're lovesick, get a fourth
wife or his heart was broken into a million pieces and you're
(26:09):
lovesick and you should get a fourth wife.
So he's saying that pregnant Christine who's struggling with
all of this and not fully aware of any of it, also encouraged
him to get that fourth wife thathe hasn't yet introduced her to.
And she's fine, but she's not inthe loop and really mad.
(26:31):
Yeah, right. No, 100%.
It makes no sense. And it's also weird because
Christine kind of is just like, Yep, that is what happened.
Because I'm sure the way that he's telling the story, there
isn't any bullet point that's factually incorrect.
He probably sat in her room and had some sort of emotional
response because he's in love with.
Robyn. And she's like, well, clearly
(26:51):
you're in love with Robyn. And he's like, she called it,
she knew that I was in love withher.
And it's like, why are you making it sound like it was an
emotional moment between you andChristine?
You're emotional because you're in love with Robyn and she knows
it and she's calling it out. Christine was like what the
actual fuck? And she's pregnant with your
child being like, can I get someattention?
Bonkers crazy, bonkers crazy. Christine thought he was
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lovesick and needed a fourth wife.
Quote UN quote, quote UN quote. She also didn't deny it.
Well, they didn't play tape of her denying it.
This is. It I feel like her reaction was
very much like, I'm going with the story because if you put it
in an outline, that's true, like.
So bonkers, so bonkers. And then it basically cuts to
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Robyn, like, thank you for making me the most perfect
husband there possibly is on theplanet.
I've got the best one. Thanks to all you first three
wives. It's true.
Cut to Robyn getting ready for Kody to arrive.
Like she's all giddy, but I alsodon't know if it's that she's
like in love and she's like, oh,my man's coming to visit, or if
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it's like there's a camera crew here filming me.
Like she feels really giddy and kind of out of place in a way
that I'm like, I can't just, I don't know.
I don't know. When I first watched it, I
probably would assume it's because of Kody.
But now in retrospect, I'm like,she's happy that all of this is
happening. It's not just Kody.
Kody comes with this whole package, so she's like super
(28:19):
excited that Kody's coming. But is it that Kody's there?
I don't know. I think it's just part of it.
I I think this is what's so bizarre, this change in thought
process about all of this that'shappened just as we've been
sitting here talking about it right now, right.
Like I didn't think about it that way before ever.
(28:40):
Did I have my thoughts, feelingsand opinions about her.
Amen. Absolutely.
But now this is very different thinking about the fact that she
was literally leveraging like ATV show in the beginning stages
of their quote UN quote courtinglike bitch please.
And I I find it far less tolerable now than even I did
(29:06):
before. And I found it minimally
tolerable at that point. So I don't know.
Yeah, it's weird because as I'm watching it, I would like to
think like a normal person. You would think they were
excited because their man is showing.
Like, you know, you got a date with your man and you're all
whatever and like, but it's almost like she seems ridiculous
(29:27):
about it. And that's why I feel like it's
a little bit that the camera crew and the lights camera
action were filming a TV show. And she knows what comes with
being with Kody. She knows that the future
includes getting her out of debtand moving her into a family
situation where she's taken careof.
Like she knows these things and she's just so excited that he
she probably does like him. She maybe even loves him, but
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that comes with it. I.
I think so. Like I don't want to say that I
actually believe. I think they're obsessed with
each other. A most disgusting.
Way 100. Percent they totally are and
create disgusting behavior on both sides.
So Congrats you 2. But short of that, I, I don't
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even think it's like, I don't think it's necessarily malicious
or anything. I just think that it's hard to
understand the the intentions, at least initially.
And that's just initially. I think that as we continue to
watch this season and you know, others progress, I think it's
(30:34):
going to be a little bit more clear how this dumb Bambi blonde
at the beginning, not blonde. Right, which is funny because
she's not blonde. This dumb Bambi at the
beginning, it's a good. Description of her though.
You know, it seems so innocent, and she's just so excited for
this, and this is just the life that she wants.
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I think it's going to become pretty clear that she has a goal
in mind and she is being strategic about it.
And she is a manipulator. Yeah, I don't know that right
now in this moment she is that type of manipulator, but but
there is definitely a level in which she could be considering
(31:18):
she's sliding in on ATV show. So like, that's the piece that I
never had in my brain before today, sliding in on the TV
show. And God damn, does that change a
few things. And.
Prior to Robyn hearing about Kody Brown and knowing that he's
filming ATV show. Prior to Robyn meeting Kody
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Brown at a church function or atsomeone's yard with Meri.
Regardless of how it happened, do I think before that she was
like some manipulative, crazy person?
I don't really know. I don't think she was that
strategic. I don't think she's that smart.
I think that this kind of fell in her lap and she like dollar
signs like Ching Ching, like everything was leveraged.
(32:00):
For everything it was. 100% that's what I think, but yeah.
So I think regardless of whethershe's manipulating or not,
right, like whether this is intentional or however she's
putting these pieces into play, Kody knew that Robyn worshipped
him. She worshipped him.
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She in every clip of every, you know, scene that they were going
to be together, all this stuff. She worshipped that man.
And that had an effect on this man and how he chose to behave
in his other relationships with his wives and children, I would
say moving forward. So it was a bizarre intro at at
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the very least. When they're showing Robyn with
the kids in her apartment or hertown home or her half house,
whatever that is that she's living in.
Her town home or her half house I get.
Up I mean like you know like youknow a side by side or whatever
it is she. Lives.
A duplex. Thank you.
Yes, her duplex. Whatever.
I know, right. So Robyn and her duplex, they're
(33:04):
they're filming and Robyn has furniture, but there's nothing
on the furniture. There's like a bookshelf with
drawers and whatever and there'snothing on the shelves.
There's totes, there are chairs,there are things, there's
furniture, but there's nothing on it.
There's nothing on the walls, There's nothing like that.
Definitely not money in that duplex.
Well, there's not money in that duplex.
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I'm also scratching my chin about is she moving in?
Is she moving out? So they have not implied on this
episode yet if she's moving to Lehigh, which we ultimately find
out. Of course she does.
She moves so we have no signs ofher being a minimalist.
But we right, so she has things,but they're not on place.
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There's something like she either just moved in or she's
just moving out. And if she's moving out where
they have packed up and they're not introducing that.
Once again, it's a production thing where it's like, why are
you filming this woman living out of totes with no furniture
or nothing on her furniture and you're just coming to visit her?
Like no, if she's moving, she's moving.
Like, they lie about production on this show so much, it's
(34:12):
crazy. Fast forward to what you were
saying about Kody and Robyn, andthey go out to this dinner at
the Mexican restaurant. They're at the Mexican
restaurant. They go out to this dinner at
this Mexican restaurant. It's not one of the same ones.
Well, they tend to repeat their restaurant visits, right?
So I'm sure I'm sure we see thisone multiple times.
Here in Saint George. So this is actually different.
(34:33):
Yeah. Cut, cut.
Snip. Snip.
So they're at this Mexican restaurant and it's.
I don't even. It's just gross.
It's just gross. Bravin is like doting on this
man. And he's just sloppy.
Yeah, you know, And it's disgusting.
He gives her like a ring. A string ring a.
(34:53):
String ring a. Ring of string.
A ring. A string as a ring.
A string of ring. A string of ring.
That's what he called it. A string as a ring, Yeah.
They got from a daughter that was making it and.
He made it. Mckelsey made a string as a ring
right before she babysat Robyn'schildren so they could go on a
date. Right.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
(35:13):
Can I give you this spring? It's a string ring, like Oh.
My God, my soul mates. Yeah.
At one point during this conversation, Robyn volunteers
that they have done four months of courting, which I think is
interesting because four months,if you think about, let's say
he's going every weekend, let's say he's going once a week.
Even if you're going once every other week, how is it that all
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three wives haven't been to visit?
How is it that Christine hasn't been to visit?
Well, especially if you're goingevery weekend, how is it that
all of your wives are only OK with seeing you basically one
day a week? OK, fine.
And then if it is every other weekend even, so that's a
situation. So how are they all not
panicking? This is what happened.
This is what happened. As he was courting her and
(35:54):
seeing the amount of time that he was away from them, they
started to panic because they thought this is the sign of
what's going to happen and not even that she's going to move
into this house and we're all going to balance this equally
together. They knew that's not what was
going to happen, that that's nothappening.
So everything was going to change and they saw the writing
(36:18):
on the wall and he fucking didn't.
And. He was falling in love.
He was clearly falling in love. And obviously their connection.
And they knew it. Is way different than the.
Others. Even as much as I hate to
acknowledge it, it's accurate. But it's gross because it is
(36:42):
because it there should just be a way that they could like, say
that and acknowledge that, or atleast without going through all
the fucking turmoil that they had to to get to where they are
today, like acknowledge that that was the case.
Robyn's got to play some role for some reason I but.
I do. We don't have to.
We don't have to belabor that just.
Yet, well, not just yet, we're not there yet, but they really
(37:03):
do seem in love. Like, if I was to just see these
two being filled at that dinner and someone was showing it to me
as two people, I'd be like, yeah, I mean, like she they're
both smitten for each other, obviously.
So that's a little weird to watch because it's like, yeah,
they are in love. They are.
And I think it is definitely, I mean, from at least what we know
(37:26):
in the moment, it's different from of the other three wives
likely, maybe they all had little snippets of moments
similar, but it this is definitely different.
Yeah. I think Meri is actually the
only one that had a similar experience with Kody.
I think Kody was really in love with Meri.
Yeah, and fuck an idiot. But anyway, it was a wild ride a
(37:50):
little bit. The last quotes that I recall
from the episode is This doesn'tdiminish any of my wives from
Kody and talking about how what he's doing doesn't diminish his
relationship with his other wives.
And I think it's interesting to note to camera.
At least at the end of this second episode they are are
(38:11):
viewing this change as we can get through this Better Together
and I think that that's how it really was entered into.
I think the intentions with her coming in were for it to be this
way. However, I think the writing was
on the wall. And that does align to the
things that we took away from the first episode, like we'll
(38:31):
get through this Better Together.
That was kind of their vibe as afamily unit.
And now we're introduced to thisoutside agent, this outside
element that I like it. And, you know, it feels like
that could be what they're saying.
But we're seeing the fractures. We're seeing the cracks.
It's already starting 100%. OK, so now we're going to do our
(38:56):
famous mustard seed and shit stain of the episode and we're
still workshopping this. Allie is in love with shit stain
versus mustard seed. She's been in love with it since
the first time I told her. Yes, unfortunately.
Well, fortunately I am in love with it.
(39:18):
Unfortunately, I haven't come upwith a better one yet.
Yeah, So I'm still stuck with it.
Yeah. And ladies and gentlemen,
suggest them in the comments. So we know that this is based on
like the quote UN quote, Rose and Thorn.
Yes, we could go with that. It could be like fetus and.
No, we can't do. Fetus.
No, we can't do fetus. I don't know.
(39:39):
No, we can't do that. No.
Strike it from the record. Dear God, we can't do that, No.
Again, we're workshopping, so you please tell us any
suggestions that you have. Amen.
So my shit stain this episode isdefinitely going to be Kody
Brown because he is driving fivehours to go date someone.
(40:02):
And in the first episode they said four hours, and now he's
saying five hours. And I don't like the
discrepancy. I feel like it's a slippery
slope. And I feel like he's trying to
make it sound like, oh, I'm justcourting this girl.
And like, it's been so long since I've courted someone, so I
don't really know what I'm even doing.
And it's like, you know exactly what you're fucking doing.
So you are the shit stain of theweek.
My mustard seed of the week. Yeah, the mustard seed.
(40:30):
Oh God, I kind of feel like I want to go with Janelle because
I liked that while they were doing the room stitch, she stood
in like the entry of the room while they were moving furniture
and was just like, yeah, but I'mgoing to throw in my 2 cents.
Like she literally was like, I'mnot helping you move a thing.
I'm not even going to help you plan.
I'm just going to stand here andgive the camera 2 seconds.
(40:50):
And that's very Janelle coded. We've already acknowledged that
Janelle is who Janelle is, so a continuation of that.
Thank you, Janelle. You know, and it's not like we
should echo each other on these,but I think my shit stain would
obviously have to be Kody Brown and for everything that you've
already listed. But in addition to that, just 0
(41:11):
self-awareness. Just 0 doesn't exist, has zero
self-awareness. I think that's something he
could work on as a human being and you know, would bode well
for his future if he tried it in, you know, retrospect
reverse. So that would be 1.
And then if I was to do a mustard seed, I love your
Janelle. I think I'm going to give it to
(41:34):
Christine for, you know, really pretending like this is all
going to be OK. Yes, for being that delusional,
Yes. She fucking tried, man.
She tried to lie to herself. She tried to lie to us as.
Much as she lied to everyone else and cut to it didn't work
(41:58):
out that way. But yeah, God damn she tried and
so I will give her props. You know, as always, what a
ride. Yes what a ride all right so our
keep sweet moment of season 1 episode 2, which is so exciting
our second episode we got through it.
You guys have made it this far. This is.
Exciting. At least we hope so.
(42:19):
Yeah, if you've already hung up,then you're not hearing this
hung up. Hung up.
You knew, You know, I grew up inthe landline.
Holy shit. Back button.
Yeah, wow wow wow. Okay, so our keep sweet moment
this week is from another TikTokvideo.
These comments on TikTok are great.
This one is from T as in T EE. The username is T and the quote
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is the only thing that scares meis poverty from Kody Brown.
And the reason that this is so great is because it's on a video
of Robyn with all of her dolls and all the money that she spent
on the dolls. And so it's such a great thing
to quote from Kody Brown becausethe only thing that scares him
is poverty, and Robyn is going to spend him into the poor
(43:06):
house. God.
Blast, thank you T for really showcasing that.
Well, and it is true. I mean, obviously Kody is a
narcissist and he's a showboat. He loves it.
And, and we love him for God bless you, Kody.
Brown We love you. Kody Brown?
Yes, absolutely. Can't wait to talk to you later.
(43:27):
Love, loves and kisses. All right.
Well, sounds good. We'll see you on the flip side.
Take care, everybody. Bye.
Let me call you sweetheart. I'm in love with you.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You.
Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
Do not make me a victim. Sweetie, just look at the
(00:22):
mountain. That's what you saw that day.
Just the knife and the kidneys over all these years and the
sacrifices that I made to love you.
(00:46):
We're we're doing great and that's what's important is that
I would give us exceeds expectations.
This is it. Yes, that's exactly what I'm
saying. I mean, someone else might give
us meets expectations and then I'd be upset but like, that's
OK. If we compared it to other
people that meet expectations and are meeting expectations,
you know we are still exceeding those expectations.
(01:08):
Agreed 100% We're going to be jumping into season 1 episode 2
of Sister Wives. This is my sister wives podcast.
I am Chris and we are here with.Allie, that's me.
Yes, I know. I didn't give her any warning
that I was handing the baton. I love it.
I'm. Also, I had my eyes closed.
We'll see. So I'm just jumping into it and
(01:29):
we are doing, like I said, season 1, episode 2, courting a
Fourth Wife is the title of the episode.
And so this is only our second episode, as you heard in our
first one, which you should havelistened to.
Obviously, we recap the first episode with Grace, Candor, and
the in depth analysis that you come to expect from us that you
(01:52):
don't come to expect. You don't even know what to
expect. Now I'm just being crazy.
Well, I, I think you recapped itquite well and we did try to
give them grace at least you know, we did.
We did acknowledge some some highs and some lows slash
typicals and here we are yet again.
(02:13):
Well, and once again, just to reiterate, I mean, re watching
the show in the future, we have perspective on things from a
different point of view than youwould have had when you first
watched it. Which is funny because you were
saying like, oh, it would be crazy to go back to when this
first aired and what you would have thought about it, not
knowing what you know in the future, you know?
That's the whole thing. And they, I think they kind of
(02:35):
started off this episode in likean interview.
The the first thing that I recall seeing was them saying,
and maybe it was Meri that said they, they had like a five to
seven-year learning curve with how their family operates.
(02:59):
So they're in X amount of years now and you know, think that
things are going OK because theyhad this five to seven-year
learning curve. And it's like, OK, so we've
already gone through some of this, it sounds.
So we've already gone through some of these struggles and some
of these challenges, and we got to a good place and now let's
fuck it all up. Well, this is it.
(03:21):
And you're right, Meri said thatthey are, they've been married
for 16 years and that their first five to seven years were
this huge learning experience, quote UN quote, from her.
And you know, to take it a step back, I feel like this episode
is a catch up episode. Like we had our first episode
where they introduced us to the wives and we met the family,
blah, blah, blah. And now they're like bringing us
(03:43):
up to speed with what's happenedwith Kody and Robyn.
And it's interesting because of what we talked about in the
first episode where there's something about the timeline
with the introduction to the family that they're getting
married, that he's going to ask Robyn to come into the family.
It's not just, oh, I'm courting someone.
We've skipped over that. And now we're like, she's coming
(04:04):
into the family. And now episode 2 is about like
bringing us back to how this even is or what the story is
with them. And it's very much like a back
and forth between the family in Lehigh and Kody getting ready
and then Kody leaving and Kody going and then Robyn and her
kids and their life. So it's like a catch up episode.
Yeah, I agree. I think when Robyn came in, he
(04:27):
had been married to Christine for 16 years.
I think it was longer with Meri and they had they done a whole
bunch of stuff in that time, right?
And so they're going through allof this.
Christine makes a reference at some point to the fact that
she's pregnant while he's courting Robyn and that that's a
(04:51):
little complicated, right? Like that it it seems like maybe
she's not getting the attention that she would desire when
preparing to birth one of his children.
As a pregnant wife. You know, at #6 I don't know,
she's, she's been through a little bit and he is
(05:14):
preoccupied, which is super fun.I'm sure for wife #3 supposed to
be the easy wife, just keeping things smooth in the family.
So interesting, right? I, I don't know, Meri always
wanted this extra wife. So she is open arms and
encouraging it. And I think some of the dynamics
(05:38):
start to show. They start to, they start to
play out a little bit. Yes and Christine even at one
point does say no more wives or I don't want anymore wives.
Like, she alludes to the fact that like, she's not interested
in more wives, even though Meri is being like, well, you know,
it's always been on my mind and I've, you know, blah, blah,
blah. And it's always been a thing.
And you know, I bring it up blah, blah, blah.
(05:59):
And Christine's like no more wives.
It was kind of this whole thing that like they start to talk
about Robyn and then every single wife gives this take on
why it's a challenge or a struggle to have this additional
wife to come in. And then they still are all
like, but sure, let's add another wife.
And then Kody's like, it's been a long time since I courted
(06:20):
someone, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And it's like, yeah, what are
you doing? And nobody wants this.
Yeah, except him. Like what are you doing?
And I guess Meri, which we get into later in the episode, yeah,
a little bit more of Meri's details with the situation, but
it. Was something.
Right. And one of the things with the
(06:41):
opening of the episode is that the wives are all baby clothes
shopping because Christine, you know, oh, oh, I'm pregnant.
And I also have to say I think it is utterly bizarre that they
know the gender of the baby. And I have to say it because
these people are fundamentalist,whatever the fuck they are.
But Christina's are babies in hospitals.
(07:02):
Well, OK, yes, Amen. I'm just saying if you're going
by God's rule book, God's word, God's whatever does it say in
the Bible, thou shalt find the gender of your baby.
I'm just saying I think that it's very contemporary.
It's very non religious background to be like I'm going
to know the sex of my baby I think.
(07:26):
Amen. Why do they know the gender?
I am confused by this. I I support you being confused
by it. Well, it is what it is like, Oh
my gosh. Cuz like, I don't know, I'm such
a traditionalist that I feel like I might not want to know
the gender of my baby. And I'm definitely not from like
a fundamentalist sect of like polygamist whatnotness.
(07:46):
Hey listen, we all pick and choose what we want to you know,
care about in our quote UN quotereligions.
So. True.
True. And they do go fast and loose
with what they care about in their religion.
Yes, let's be. Real, yes.
So after the initial intro of the episode, they start kind of
bringing Robyn more into the story.
Like at first it's about the wives and then it's like Robyn
(08:07):
and she has these, you know, I don't, they're not interviews.
I don't know what they're called, but where she's speaking
to the camera. So I guess it's an interview and
she says that she's working to support her.
Kids spotlight, I'd call. It a spotlight Robyn.
Spotlight. I love that Robyn.
Spotlight Robyn when she's got her spotlight, Yes.
(08:27):
No, that's that's true. Turn the camera.
On they give her great lighting too, while she's young and
that's beautiful. And look at her girl.
And look at her girl. Fuck Robyn.
But she says I'm working to support these kids and my
thought is doing what she's talking about working.
There's so many things from her past which I've been.
(08:48):
Man on ATV show Chris. Straight up, because what else
is she doing? There's other times in the
future in the show where she alludes to things about her past
and about her life, but she never fills in details.
And this is something that's going to come up, so I'm not
even going to spend time on it. But like, even now she's
(09:08):
working. She's doing what?
What is she doing? She never can tell you what
she's doing, where she's where she's done it or anything like
that. She's just working.
Well, she's already lost her purity, so she's sucking Kody's
Dick off camera. That is probably true.
I love how I'm asking for. I love how I'm asking for the I
(09:32):
love knowing I'm I'm asking for the hypothetical of like, what
is Robyn doing? Like she's working and you're
like she's sucking Kody's Dick. That is probably.
True. Think it's possible?
No, I mean it's, I think it's more likely than not.
Thank you. It also was weird to me because
Christine says that Kody is going 5 hours to see Robyn and
(09:54):
in the pilot in our first episode they say 4 hours.
Now, I am I splitting hairs? Sure.
But this is what the show is allabout is saying four and then
it's really five. And then later in the future you
turn out at six like they are these, that's who these people
are. So Christine says it's five
hours later. Later in the episode, Kody's
like, oh, I go 5 hours. It's like, why was it 4 hours
(10:15):
the last episode? That drives me nuts.
And it's a fairpoint. I mean, the the biggest piece of
that puzzle, though, is that he's already abandoning the
three other wives for X amount of days to quote UN quote, court
Robyn. And they're just now starting to
(10:36):
get a glimpse of what it's goingto be like to have their husband
X amount of days less than what they do now and not feeling
super great about it. But he's still pumped and he's
still on that road and he's still, you know, taking his
teenage daughters to babysit herkids so they can go on date
night. I mean it.
This is some interesting courting behavior, let's just
(11:00):
say some that I've never seen. Right counter to the normal
courting behavior that we're very familiar with.
Oh wait, yes, the normal polygamist families that I see
date is very different from these so.
But I agree with me taking the kids with to Robyns.
It's like there's this thing about introducing Robyn to the
family, so bringing wives with, bringing the children with, and
(11:22):
then, you know, yeah, they're going to babysit while we go out
on a date. Like, OK, so this is a day that
you're not with your wives and they are pointing it out.
They are like we have days now that are not with our husband
because he's with his girlfriend.
And he's recognizing their behavior in the exact moment
they're saying that this is a struggle.
Yeah. And he's still like, well, I
(11:45):
guess it's just what I got to do.
Yeah, You know, like it's just what I got to do.
Yes, he says that he needs to find a balance between being
faithful to his wives and datingor courting someone else.
Yes, which is? But he's not actually finding a
balance, he's just disregarding his other wives and continuing
to court the 4th person. This is totally a thing for him.
(12:06):
He says what? He needs to do.
You're right, this is totally how it starts.
This is what I need to do while I'm actually not doing that.
I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, I'm just gonna keep
letting Robyn suck my Dick and think my wives off.
And then telling the camera during interviews I know I need
to find a balance when he doesn't have.
He has no intention of finding abalance.
(12:28):
He never wanted to find a balance.
Also, they do cut to Meri talking about the beginning with
Robyn and there is some discrepancy.
And I'm going to say this about the book later where I, I don't
know the details at this moment,but there's some discrepancy on
how Kody met Robyn. Was it at a church function?
Was it at a church function, friend's yard where Meri
(12:50):
introduced them? There's different stories from
different people, but the general consensus at this point
in, you know, episode 2 of the first season is that Meri
introduces them and Meri feels like there could be a friendship
with Robyn. She really wanted that she.
So that led me to spiral in a couple of different directions
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because it was 1. Is she feeling like the 4th
wheel in this like family situation?
Right. So it kind of ties back to the
first episode, the Meri's contribution to the family, the
whatever. Like is she already feeling on
the outs? Like all I do is pull teeth.
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Yes. Yeah, really.
Yeah, and I so I don't know whatthat is, but it feels like she
is needing somebody else in the relationship to help balance her
and that's why she's pushing forthis and and has been seemingly
for a long time. So so Meri had a desire out of
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this this for 4th relationship and that was very very apparent.
I did write down that Meri wanted a friend and Robyn I
also. When Kody was showing up for the
date with Robyn she had just prepared her kids dinner and it
was penne noodles with canned marinara sauce and shredded
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cheddar cheese and boy it lookedso yummy so.
I feel like this is a thing thathappens in the the Sister Wives
universe is that people generally recognize that Robyn
is a shit cook. Yeah, period.
Yeah, that was nasty. That was nasty.
I mean, I'd eat it, but it was not an effort of a meal, let's
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just say. And once again, I what I don't
understand is these people are being filmed for ATV show.
I'm sorry if someone if a crew'scoming over and you're feeding
your kids, maybe you're so preoccupied with how you look
and how things are that you don't think about the food.
OK, but I think it's more likelythat you would think like I
should actually make something that makes it look like I feed
my kids. Well.
Like I don't know what the fuck I.
Think about the crew. I'm thinking about the fact that
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you're trying to win yourself a husband.
But I'm thinking about like, having a crew there, like,
you're being filmed like, and this is what you're going to
present. Like this is what I feed my
kids. Is this crap.
Like you couldn't even just buy some things for one meal.
Like give me a break. It was, it was gross.
It was gross. I wouldn't have eaten it.
It was absolutely terrible. It also just like the kids and
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the cameras is pretty funny and adorable.
Like I think that was the momentthat Robyn's kids were like in
the driveway going bonkers and she was trying to get him in the
car or something like that. And it was like, God, rein them
in for this TV show. But also like I've tried to rein
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in a child before. That is not simple.
And they've actually, with a lotof the kids done super well at
that. Really in theory, like it was
just, it was an interesting thought about how the children
behave on the show. It could be a lot worse than
what it is. Let's be real.
They do pretty decent. Getting kids into the vehicle
thing is always interesting to watch because I'm not a parent.
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And so while I'm watching it, I'm going like, well, yeah,
Amen. Like, I get it.
Sometimes it's a struggle to getkids in the car.
But there are other times where she's almost like feigning A
frustration. I feel like she's, like,
dragging her shoulders. And she's a little performative
about her. Like, look at me.
I've always got to try to wrangle these kids.
And I'm like, did you just let them misbehave just to like try
to direct them in front of the camera?
Like it felt a little fake to me, but I totally get it about
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the kids thing. It just seemed like that was not
an instance of it and something felt disingenuous about it to
me. That's fair on my my main
highlight of the moment was her white Old Navy cargo pants.
Oh my God, yes. And I really like God IA wish I
had the body that I could still wear them but BI fucking loved
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the Old Navy cargo pass. Oh my gosh.
There are some pieces. OK, I love that I'm saying
pieces. There are some articles of
clothing that they wear that do harken back to our past and
maybe some days where we were younger and thinner, I don't
know. Made me feel young and free.
Yeah, I love that. I love that for you.
Thank you. Then a transition into the wives
in the house in Lehigh, and they're moving furniture around
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because Christine, you know, is expecting this child.
And Truly, so they know her gender and they know her name
and she's not even on the earth yet.
So that's amazing. Well, I guess she is on the
earth. OK, Anyway, I got to get over
that point. I got to move on.
I got to move on. Truly is going to be with us any
day. So they're going to put her in
Christine's room and we know that it's her and her name is
Julie Lovett. She's not even here.
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But they're putting, they're moving all the furniture around.
They're moving the furniture as they do and they are.
And it's so funny because I lovethat they chose this activity.
Maybe it was productions suggestion, but it's something
to film so that we could see these wives interacting together
and kind of their nests. It was interesting because.
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Meri. It was so great because Meri was
like brick house. She was like, I have the plan, I
know what needs to happen. I'm going to move this entire
fucking wardrobe by myself from place to place to place as
Christmas Christine is like, oh,I don't know, maybe this wall or
maybe that wall literally like let's just.
Just making it seem like it was no big deal to keep hauling this
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fucker around. She was like, yeah, no, maybe
let's try it over there. Let's try it here.
Let's try it there. Let's try it there.
No. OK, so that's her style.
Let's try this. Let's try that.
Let's try that. Meanwhile, she is carrying truly
who is a woman and that. We're gonna know this and
whatever. She's pregnant.
She's the size of a house. Second, truly, as far as we
know, identifies as a female in the womb and.
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That's very 2025 of us yes, thank you for saying that Ali I
I agree truly. They have called her her on the
show and her and they've named her even though she.
Doesn't what they are. She's not born yet, but they're
they're Christine is like, well,maybe here, maybe there, who
knows? Like, let's see, it's like, did
you even take a second? Now as people that are space
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planners, you didn't take a second to think what would be
best to start with. No, they literally just wanted
to try in every single place to see if one of them fit.
And have you seen the furniture?It's not gonna look great
anywhere. Right, no matter where it is.
Turns out to be the problem. It's not gonna look good
anywhere. Nothing about what you're trying
to do is going to so sorry. Yes, she can keep putting it on
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different walls in a different places, but the result is the
same. Is the same maybe she was just
looking for that clearance around the the crib, right?
I think that's what they were going for was clearance of crib.
I'd love to think that there wasan actual goal.
I that's great. I it led to this like laughing
moment where there started to befrustration about moving the
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furniture so many times, yes, where they all just like, haha
and said, yeah, we've worked through our issues.
Yes. Like that was like a line.
We've worked through our issues totally.
Like do we say that out loud if we've worked through our issues?
Like, I don't know. Maybe, yeah, maybe you could,
but they were literally playing out there.
They're tropes, They're whatever.
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Like Christine was like, I'm male, fun space, and I have no
idea what's going on. Meri's like, I'm going to move
this fucking furniture and Janelle's like, I just always
feel like this is just what we end up doing standing in the
corner, and I'm like, this is who you people are.
It was actually a great example of who they were, and I
appreciated that for what it was.
That's accurate. Did I want to slap Christine
across? Her pregnant face.
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Yes, I did because I was like, bitch, you, you needed to bring
these people here with a mission.
If you're going to ask people tomove furniture, try to have a
goal. Try to have a first.
Bringed her in though, like. Think she should have moved on
the furniture herself. No, like, bitch, that's stupid.
We're not doing that. Can you see why this wouldn't
work there? That's not going to work.
Let's not. Maybe Meri had to.
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Keep sweet and flip the bed to every wall like.
Meri had to keep sweet and she had to keep it like, I'm going
to go with the plan even though there's no plan.
Thanks, Christine. You know they they then very
smoothly transition into how Robyn changes everything in the
midst of moving. Furniture, right?
It was a beautiful thing. Thank you, Puddle Monkey.
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Beautiful thing. Robyn changes everything, okay.
That's a nice transition. And then also like how Robyn
says she doesn't want to hurt anyone.
So once again, Robbins in her spotlight and she doesn't want
to hurt anyone. And I think it's interesting
that she says she doesn't want to hurt anyone.
It's like it's setting up her narrative for the entire rest of
the time that she's on the show.Oh, I don't want to hurt anyone.
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It's like, right. Amen.
But you, I don't know. I can't.
I don't even know what to say. I think it's odd that there is
an assumption of hurt because what is supposedly happening is
that you are joining a family that is welcoming you as an
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additional wife. And so why in her mind would she
be hurting anyone? And and So what I think is
interesting about this is that Ihighly doubt she's close enough
with any of the wives that they would be talking trash about any
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of those three to Robyn at this point.
Yeah, very unlikely. Yeah.
So if she is feeling like someone is hurt, she's hearing
that from only one person. From Kody.
From Kody, I suspect that. Maybe Meri, but yeah, OK.
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But I don't think Meri. OK.
Yes, yeah. I don't know.
I think it's from Kody. And to be honest, I think that
that's what gave Robyn the weight that she needed to get
where she needed was the fact that she knew already that she
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was above the others. And that's because of what he
told her, Kody said. And he is telling her things
like that throughout all of this.
Yes, Which is why they're where they are today, because he says
things differently to her than he has to any of the rest of
them. Yes, he is already feeding
things to Robyn. So we're not discussing it in
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the interview. We're not talking about it from
production standpoint. It's not part of the the
episode, but he is already setting things up to be like,
oh, I just want to make sure that we're not doing anything
whatever with the wives. Like he's planting seeds with
her to have her feeling already that she needs to say like, oh,
I don't want to upset anybody and I don't want to make anybody
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mad. Well, but also in this whole mix
of while he's courting her, Christina's pregnant.
And we learn in this episode that she hadn't even met Robyn
for months, for months while he has apparently been doing this
and she is at her most vulnerable state, about to burst
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with a baby. And he's doing this and also
being inconsiderate on some of the all these other different
levels. Like what?
What is really happening here? I mean, that's a lot that's
happening right now. And when she says this in an
interview, when they are talked,I don't know what triggered this
response. They don't have like producer or
director asking questions, but she brings she brings this up
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and she says she lost her best friend.
And when she's talking about this, we don't hear enough
detail and that's painful. But that she heard about Robyn
in depth before meeting her. So I feel like as a thing, I
don't know why it is that maybe Meri and Janelle were let in
about this more. Maybe their feelings just
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weren't as hurt. Obviously Meri knew Robyn
earlier. But like why it is that your
pregnant wife is hearing about this woman that you are courting
seriously months into it and hasher feelings hurt, rightfully
so. Like that's insane.
There was something there either, I'm not sure that
Christine was unaware that he was courting her or if there had
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just not been a strategic enoughplan for them to be introduced
and meet yet. But Christine felt out of the
loop in some fashion, and she made that very clear.
And then Kody had some sort of response about it, right?
And they had this little sob fest or whatever.
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This is also one of those moments that was just very
bizarre and I'm not quite sure if it what if it happened
exactly as it's shown on camera or if it's like snippets of it.
Christine has her crying moment about feeling like she lost her
best friend and then Kody has a tear up moment, but his tear up
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moment involves Christine sayinghim saying something along the
lines of how he's been struggling.
Poor me. Boo Hoo.
And then Christine goes, oh, you're lovesick, get a fourth
wife or his heart was broken into a million pieces and you're
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lovesick and you should get a fourth wife.
So he's saying that pregnant Christine who's struggling with
all of this and not fully aware of any of it, also encouraged
him to get that fourth wife thathe hasn't yet introduced her to.
And she's fine, but she's not inthe loop and really mad.
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Yeah, right. No, 100%.
It makes no sense. And it's also weird because
Christine kind of is just like, Yep, that is what happened.
Because I'm sure the way that he's telling the story, there
isn't any bullet point that's factually incorrect.
He probably sat in her room and had some sort of emotional
response because he's in love with.
Robyn. And she's like, well, clearly
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you're in love with Robyn. And he's like, she called it,
she knew that I was in love withher.
And it's like, why are you making it sound like it was an
emotional moment between you andChristine?
You're emotional because you're in love with Robyn and she knows
it and she's calling it out. Christine was like what the
actual fuck? And she's pregnant with your
child being like, can I get someattention?
Bonkers crazy, bonkers crazy. Christine thought he was
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lovesick and needed a fourth wife.
Quote UN quote, quote UN quote. She also didn't deny it.
Well, they didn't play tape of her denying it.
This is. It I feel like her reaction was
very much like, I'm going with the story because if you put it
in an outline, that's true, like.
So bonkers, so bonkers. And then it basically cuts to
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Robyn, like, thank you for making me the most perfect
husband there possibly is on theplanet.
I've got the best one. Thanks to all you first three
wives. It's true.
Cut to Robyn getting ready for Kody to arrive.
Like she's all giddy, but I alsodon't know if it's that she's
like in love and she's like, oh,my man's coming to visit, or if
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it's like there's a camera crew here filming me.
Like she feels really giddy and kind of out of place in a way
that I'm like, I can't just, I don't know.
I don't know. When I first watched it, I
probably would assume it's because of Kody.
But now in retrospect, I'm like,she's happy that all of this is
happening. It's not just Kody.
Kody comes with this whole package, so she's like super
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excited that Kody's coming. But is it that Kody's there?
I don't know. I think it's just part of it.
I I think this is what's so bizarre, this change in thought
process about all of this that'shappened just as we've been
sitting here talking about it right now, right.
Like I didn't think about it that way before ever.
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Did I have my thoughts, feelingsand opinions about her.
Amen. Absolutely.
But now this is very different thinking about the fact that she
was literally leveraging like ATV show in the beginning stages
of their quote UN quote courtinglike bitch please.
And I I find it far less tolerable now than even I did
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before. And I found it minimally
tolerable at that point. So I don't know.
Yeah, it's weird because as I'm watching it, I would like to
think like a normal person. You would think they were
excited because their man is showing.
Like, you know, you got a date with your man and you're all
whatever and like, but it's almost like she seems ridiculous
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about it. And that's why I feel like it's
a little bit that the camera crew and the lights camera
action were filming a TV show. And she knows what comes with
being with Kody. She knows that the future
includes getting her out of debtand moving her into a family
situation where she's taken careof.
Like she knows these things and she's just so excited that he
she probably does like him. She maybe even loves him, but
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that comes with it. I.
I think so. Like I don't want to say that I
actually believe. I think they're obsessed with
each other. A most disgusting.
Way 100. Percent they totally are and
create disgusting behavior on both sides.
So Congrats you 2. But short of that, I, I don't
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even think it's like, I don't think it's necessarily malicious
or anything. I just think that it's hard to
understand the the intentions, at least initially.
And that's just initially. I think that as we continue to
watch this season and you know, others progress, I think it's
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going to be a little bit more clear how this dumb Bambi blonde
at the beginning, not blonde. Right, which is funny because
she's not blonde. This dumb Bambi at the
beginning, it's a good. Description of her though.
You know, it seems so innocent, and she's just so excited for
this, and this is just the life that she wants.
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I think it's going to become pretty clear that she has a goal
in mind and she is being strategic about it.
And she is a manipulator. Yeah, I don't know that right
now in this moment she is that type of manipulator, but but
there is definitely a level in which she could be considering
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she's sliding in on ATV show. So like, that's the piece that I
never had in my brain before today, sliding in on the TV
show. And God damn, does that change a
few things. And.
Prior to Robyn hearing about Kody Brown and knowing that he's
filming ATV show. Prior to Robyn meeting Kody
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Brown at a church function or atsomeone's yard with Meri.
Regardless of how it happened, do I think before that she was
like some manipulative, crazy person?
I don't really know. I don't think she was that
strategic. I don't think she's that smart.
I think that this kind of fell in her lap and she like dollar
signs like Ching Ching, like everything was leveraged.
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For everything it was. 100% that's what I think, but yeah.
So I think regardless of whethershe's manipulating or not,
right, like whether this is intentional or however she's
putting these pieces into play, Kody knew that Robyn worshipped
him. She worshipped him.
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She in every clip of every, you know, scene that they were going
to be together, all this stuff. She worshipped that man.
And that had an effect on this man and how he chose to behave
in his other relationships with his wives and children, I would
say moving forward. So it was a bizarre intro at at
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the very least. When they're showing Robyn with
the kids in her apartment or hertown home or her half house,
whatever that is that she's living in.
Her town home or her half house I get.
Up I mean like you know like youknow a side by side or whatever
it is she. Lives.
A duplex. Thank you.
Yes, her duplex. Whatever.
I know, right. So Robyn and her duplex, they're
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they're filming and Robyn has furniture, but there's nothing
on the furniture. There's like a bookshelf with
drawers and whatever and there'snothing on the shelves.
There's totes, there are chairs,there are things, there's
furniture, but there's nothing on it.
There's nothing on the walls, There's nothing like that.
Definitely not money in that duplex.
Well, there's not money in that duplex.
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I'm also scratching my chin about is she moving in?
Is she moving out? So they have not implied on this
episode yet if she's moving to Lehigh, which we ultimately find
out. Of course she does.
She moves so we have no signs ofher being a minimalist.
But we right, so she has things,but they're not on place.
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There's something like she either just moved in or she's
just moving out. And if she's moving out where
they have packed up and they're not introducing that.
Once again, it's a production thing where it's like, why are
you filming this woman living out of totes with no furniture
or nothing on her furniture and you're just coming to visit her?
Like no, if she's moving, she's moving.
Like, they lie about production on this show so much, it's
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crazy. Fast forward to what you were
saying about Kody and Robyn, andthey go out to this dinner at
the Mexican restaurant. They're at the Mexican
restaurant. They go out to this dinner at
this Mexican restaurant. It's not one of the same ones.
Well, they tend to repeat their restaurant visits, right?
So I'm sure I'm sure we see thisone multiple times.
Here in Saint George. So this is actually different.
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Yeah. Cut, cut.
Snip. Snip.
So they're at this Mexican restaurant and it's.
I don't even. It's just gross.
It's just gross. Bravin is like doting on this
man. And he's just sloppy.
Yeah, you know, And it's disgusting.
He gives her like a ring. A string ring a.
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String ring a. Ring of string.
A ring. A string as a ring.
A string of ring. A string of ring.
That's what he called it. A string as a ring, Yeah.
They got from a daughter that was making it and.
He made it. Mckelsey made a string as a ring
right before she babysat Robyn'schildren so they could go on a
date. Right.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
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Can I give you this spring? It's a string ring, like Oh.
My God, my soul mates. Yeah.
At one point during this conversation, Robyn volunteers
that they have done four months of courting, which I think is
interesting because four months,if you think about, let's say
he's going every weekend, let's say he's going once a week.
Even if you're going once every other week, how is it that all
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three wives haven't been to visit?
How is it that Christine hasn't been to visit?
Well, especially if you're goingevery weekend, how is it that
all of your wives are only OK with seeing you basically one
day a week? OK, fine.
And then if it is every other weekend even, so that's a
situation. So how are they all not
panicking? This is what happened.
This is what happened. As he was courting her and
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seeing the amount of time that he was away from them, they
started to panic because they thought this is the sign of
what's going to happen and not even that she's going to move
into this house and we're all going to balance this equally
together. They knew that's not what was
going to happen, that that's nothappening.
So everything was going to change and they saw the writing
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on the wall and he fucking didn't.
And. He was falling in love.
He was clearly falling in love. And obviously their connection.
And they knew it. Is way different than the.
Others. Even as much as I hate to
acknowledge it, it's accurate. But it's gross because it is
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because it there should just be a way that they could like, say
that and acknowledge that, or atleast without going through all
the fucking turmoil that they had to to get to where they are
today, like acknowledge that that was the case.
Robyn's got to play some role for some reason I but.
I do. We don't have to.
We don't have to belabor that just.
Yet, well, not just yet, we're not there yet, but they really
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do seem in love. Like, if I was to just see these
two being filled at that dinner and someone was showing it to me
as two people, I'd be like, yeah, I mean, like she they're
both smitten for each other, obviously.
So that's a little weird to watch because it's like, yeah,
they are in love. They are.
And I think it is definitely, I mean, from at least what we know
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in the moment, it's different from of the other three wives
likely, maybe they all had little snippets of moments
similar, but it this is definitely different.
Yeah. I think Meri is actually the
only one that had a similar experience with Kody.
I think Kody was really in love with Meri.
Yeah, and fuck an idiot. But anyway, it was a wild ride a
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little bit. The last quotes that I recall
from the episode is This doesn'tdiminish any of my wives from
Kody and talking about how what he's doing doesn't diminish his
relationship with his other wives.
And I think it's interesting to note to camera.
At least at the end of this second episode they are are
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viewing this change as we can get through this Better Together
and I think that that's how it really was entered into.
I think the intentions with her coming in were for it to be this
way. However, I think the writing was
on the wall. And that does align to the
things that we took away from the first episode, like we'll
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get through this Better Together.
That was kind of their vibe as afamily unit.
And now we're introduced to thisoutside agent, this outside
element that I like it. And, you know, it feels like
that could be what they're saying.
But we're seeing the fractures. We're seeing the cracks.
It's already starting 100%. OK, so now we're going to do our
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famous mustard seed and shit stain of the episode and we're
still workshopping this. Allie is in love with shit stain
versus mustard seed. She's been in love with it since
the first time I told her. Yes, unfortunately.
Well, fortunately I am in love with it.
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Unfortunately, I haven't come upwith a better one yet.
Yeah, So I'm still stuck with it.
Yeah. And ladies and gentlemen,
suggest them in the comments. So we know that this is based on
like the quote UN quote, Rose and Thorn.
Yes, we could go with that. It could be like fetus and.
No, we can't do. Fetus.
No, we can't do fetus. I don't know.
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No, we can't do that. No.
Strike it from the record. Dear God, we can't do that, No.
Again, we're workshopping, so you please tell us any
suggestions that you have. Amen.
So my shit stain this episode isdefinitely going to be Kody
Brown because he is driving fivehours to go date someone.
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And in the first episode they said four hours, and now he's
saying five hours. And I don't like the
discrepancy. I feel like it's a slippery
slope. And I feel like he's trying to
make it sound like, oh, I'm justcourting this girl.
And like, it's been so long since I've courted someone, so I
don't really know what I'm even doing.
And it's like, you know exactly what you're fucking doing.
So you are the shit stain of theweek.
My mustard seed of the week. Yeah, the mustard seed.
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Oh God, I kind of feel like I want to go with Janelle because
I liked that while they were doing the room stitch, she stood
in like the entry of the room while they were moving furniture
and was just like, yeah, but I'mgoing to throw in my 2 cents.
Like she literally was like, I'mnot helping you move a thing.
I'm not even going to help you plan.
I'm just going to stand here andgive the camera 2 seconds.
(40:50):
And that's very Janelle coded. We've already acknowledged that
Janelle is who Janelle is, so a continuation of that.
Thank you, Janelle. You know, and it's not like we
should echo each other on these,but I think my shit stain would
obviously have to be Kody Brown and for everything that you've
already listed. But in addition to that, just 0
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self-awareness. Just 0 doesn't exist, has zero
self-awareness. I think that's something he
could work on as a human being and you know, would bode well
for his future if he tried it in, you know, retrospect
reverse. So that would be 1.
And then if I was to do a mustard seed, I love your
Janelle. I think I'm going to give it to
(41:34):
Christine for, you know, really pretending like this is all
going to be OK. Yes, for being that delusional,
Yes. She fucking tried, man.
She tried to lie to herself. She tried to lie to us as.
Much as she lied to everyone else and cut to it didn't work
(41:58):
out that way. But yeah, God damn she tried and
so I will give her props. You know, as always, what a
ride. Yes what a ride all right so our
keep sweet moment of season 1 episode 2, which is so exciting
our second episode we got through it.
You guys have made it this far. This is.
Exciting. At least we hope so.
(42:19):
Yeah, if you've already hung up,then you're not hearing this
hung up. Hung up.
You knew, You know, I grew up inthe landline.
Holy shit. Back button.
Yeah, wow wow wow. Okay, so our keep sweet moment
this week is from another TikTokvideo.
These comments on TikTok are great.
This one is from T as in T EE. The username is T and the quote
(42:45):
is the only thing that scares meis poverty from Kody Brown.
And the reason that this is so great is because it's on a video
of Robyn with all of her dolls and all the money that she spent
on the dolls. And so it's such a great thing
to quote from Kody Brown becausethe only thing that scares him
is poverty, and Robyn is going to spend him into the poor
(43:06):
house. God.
Blast, thank you T for really showcasing that.
Well, and it is true. I mean, obviously Kody is a
narcissist and he's a showboat. He loves it.
And, and we love him for God bless you, Kody.
Brown We love you. Kody Brown?
Yes, absolutely. Can't wait to talk to you later.
(43:27):
Love, loves and kisses. All right.
Well, sounds good. We'll see you on the flip side.
Take care, everybody. Bye.
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