Sister Wives S2 E10 - Gambling on the Future - My Sister Wives Podcast

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Hello world, welcome to my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. And I'm Allie, we're long time
friends who had no idea we were both watching the TLC trainwreck
reality show Sister Wives. Join us as we rewatch Sister
Wives, maybe have a drink or two, and share what useless
information and insights we can provide.
Listen to us two deadbeat losersjudge the Brown family.

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That's us all right. See you on the flip side.
Me call you sweetheart. I'm in love with you.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.

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Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim,
sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
you. Season 2 Episode 10 Gambling on

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the future Pretty exciting stuff.
A lot of things happened in thisepisode.
Mass chaos. Yes, anxiety causing.
Very much so. Yeah, a lot of things.
We wanted to start this episode by talking about something that
we covered in our previous episode, which is about Robyn's

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living situation and parents andhow we were a little confused
because on the show they talk about how Robyn moved up from
Saint George, which is where hermom lives.
But then when they were going toVegas, her dad was there.
Step uncle, daddy, uncle daddy, uncle daddy, step daddy, uncle,

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step daddy, uncle, step daddy isin Vegas.
And we were wondering what is this all about?
Well, outside of the show and what you, what people have
pointed out to us in comments and like what is true is that
her dad, uncle's step uncle Stepdaddy did live in Vegas and

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that's where his family is his first wife and his children from
that family. And Robyn's mother lives in
Saint George and Robyn and her mother, that family is his
second family, according to her and the storytelling, they're
polygamists and whatever. There's rumors online that

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really Robyn's mother was the other woman and that maybe they
weren't even really polygamists to begin with.
Can't allegedly, this isn't 2020.
Like, we're not, we're not, we're not going to like figure
out every detail, especially because this is a rewatch of the
show. And so in the show they don't

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tell us any of this stuff. Robyn's uncle Stepdaddy is in
Vegas because, you know, and he would only come visit on
weekends or holidays, like afterthe holiday, like, never on the
holiday and never for important times.
They were the second family. And so there's things online
about how Robyn's mom might havetrained Robyn and her siblings

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to be like, oh, when dad's around, we have to be perfect
and we have to get his favor andapproval and attention.
And it's interesting how Robyn did that with her kids joining
the Brown family. And all of a sudden, how her
little tenders are Kody's, you know, they're so precious to him
and they're all these things. Well, maybe she does everything

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to appease him, period. So that's something.
Well, I think that makes sense as far as her behavior.
The rest of it, I'm not sure if that added any more clarity or
if it made it more confusing. Yeah, whatever the whatever the
fuck they had going on. But like, OK, yes, I think you

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used the word incestuous at one point about some of this stuff.
It's just like what is happeningwith these people.
So another conspiracy theory forus to add to the list, right?
Like yes. Definitely.
So anyway, just an asterisk to start out the episode, nothing
crazy. But to start this episode, what

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I love is they're doing the collage at the beginning, the
clips and before the intro and the start of the show.
And the iconic moment of Meri turning around behind EU Haul as
the police siren is happening, this sound effect.
And it is a legendary moment because it is completely fake.

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It's so obvious that Meri did not turn around to hearing
sirens and whatever. So it's such a crazy post
production thing and they use itover and over again.
And they use it in the future inthe show, like when they had to
move. And it's like, seriously.
So I just want to give a shout out to this crazy moment that
we'll repeat over and over again.

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The opening sequence is a montage of Kody with the wives,
like these, like, flashbacks to Season 1 and like getting to
know them and whatever. And, you know, he's having his
sentimental moments, his my family moments.
Yeah, I don't know. Well, they kept doing this like
like the first couple of minutes, yes, were these

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flashbacks and then Kody just staring like deadpan into the
camera, all serious and then it would like zoom in and out and
oh, and just all the seriousnessand all of these flashbacks and
it's like, oh, it is heavy rightIs the is what they want you to
feel. That was pretty ridiculous, but.

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They laid it on thick for sure. Like maybe even black and white
or like low sepia for like the flashback moments, like, oh,
like, OK, all right. Do you know what I hated about
this? So he's supposed to be all
serious, right? Yeah.
And like the one time he's not wearing a button down, right?
Like he's in his hoodie the whole time.
And it's like. He looks so thin.
Is not matching the seriousness of what you want us to feel

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right now? Like, what are you doing?
Yeah. And so missed opportunity for
your button up, Kody. Yeah, yeah, he does yard work
and a button up, but then when he's talking about moving in the
drama of his family, he literally looks like he just got
out of bed. It was crazy.
I didn't understand. I did not understand.
That tracks. Yes, but we got lots of
close-ups to Kody's face to start us off here.

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We really did. There was a lot of Kody's face
in this episode. There's a lot of Kody, yeah.
Yeah, we had a Kody Light episode not too long ago, and
this is Kody heavy. Very Kody. 100% he says that
they have to tell the little kids about how they're moving,
like that's how they're introducing this conversation.

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And they cut really right to himthe the whole family sitting in
someone's living room. I don't know if it was Meri's or
whose it was, but he's basicallysurrounded by all the kids and
the mothers. They're all sitting on the
chairs and the couches and he's doing the whole like family
meeting kind of thing. He's sitting in a chair, he's
got his little notepad and pen and he's ready to tell him

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what's happening and ready to take notes, I guess.
Right, yeah, this was all kind of bizarre, right?
Because they're in in the background, they're telling us
what they're about to tell them,right.
So it's like Kody's voice over. And what we have to tell the
kids now is that not only are wemoving, but we are moving in

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three days. And it's like, oh, shit.
OK, yeah. So you're telling your 16
children that in three days theyare.
Their whole lives are changing. And now, of course, the older
ones knew, yes, but the younger ones did not yet.
And lots of reaction. So first they say they're moving
to Vegas, and they give them like about one minute, 60

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seconds for that to sink in, Yes.
And then say not only that, but it's happening in three days, in
three days. And then moments of sheer panic
and terror across all the children's faces, like
simultaneously. It was pretty disturbing.
It was a lot. So like, when Kody says this,
like we are moving to Vegas, it's interesting because Peyton

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is in the same shot as him. He's sitting next to him in this
chair. And you can just, like,
instantly see him upset, like visibly upset with the first
statement from Kody's mouth. And they do this where they show
all the different kids and they kind of, you know, are looking
around the room. And then they cut to Isabel
asking how long? Like, when are we moving,

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basically, which tease up Kody saying, Oh, yeah, we're moving
in three days, which is just in another wave of tears and
emotion and upsetness. It felt like really, really
heavy. The footage was heavy.
Like, everyone's crying. All the mothers are like,
consoling their crying children.And Kody's doing the whole,

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like, you know, I'm the CEO of the family sitting in this chair
kind of leading things and really just going into it.
I don't really know how you sugarcoat it.
So I don't really know what to say about his vibes but.
Well, and not only that, but then he says and also very
important, you can't tell anyone.
And it's like what? We can't even tell our friends

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we're moving. We can't say goodbye.
We can't. I mean, the the way in which
they're quote UN quote having todo this, which I think is having
to do is maybe debatable. But yes, it's a lot to be thrown
at these children right now. Like a lot.

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Yeah, after Kody tells says thatthey can't tell anyone, there's
a couple more questions and statements of people like, you
know, like, I love my house, I love my friends, I love my
school, I love my life. And it's like, OK, this is a lot
of information for these kids tobe taking on.
Kody talks about how he's working hard to not be defensive

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because he's also having a hard time selling this to the kids
because he's because he's also upset.
So while. Yeah, I don't know that we are
signed up to the Kody Brown fan club and it's easy to hate on
him like he's not. Is he being forced to do this or
no? But he is doing this and feels

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forced, at least for the TV show, and it's understandable
that you would be. I mean, I do think it's actually
emotionally mature for him to express.
Like I'm trying not to be defensive because he could just
be an asshole to his kids and you can tell he's trying not to
be. He's trying to be a mature adult
in the situation, I guess. They're having some empathy, you

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know, to to feel about or think about what the kids are feeling
and not totally yes, force them to just shut up and go along
with program. Although at some point they have
to say shut up and go along withprogram, but they're trying to
give them some time to think about it.
I really loved that. I think it was Maddie asked

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about Leon because everybody andnow I thought this was a little
interesting, OK, And tell me your feelings on this
conversation about Leon because.Yeah, I've got.
I've got. Feelings.
Yes, I figured. So Maddie says, you know what?
What's Leon going to do? You know, she said something
along the lines of, don't you remember how weird they got when

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they had to go to public school?Like it was sweet that everybody
had this concern, but then it was kind of like it felt like
everyone was talking about them while they're in the room
sobbing, you know, having all these feelings, like.
And Maddie did bring it up and Ifeel like Aspen basically jumped

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immediately on the train. And so all of a sudden there's
two of the older daughters talking about Leon and like, the
sensitivity thing. And Kody does start off by
saying, well, first of all, where we go one, we go all,
which is interesting. I think that phrase aligns to
some people's, you know, so where we go one where we go all

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is very like synonymous with like libertarian movement and
kind of that don't tread on me, blah, blah, blah, like
government keep off of me thing.And it's funny because Kody
doesn't really talk about politics, particularly at the
beginning of the show. Like he's a very much like, but
I mean libertarian vibes work for him, right?
Like don't tread on me, like howeveryone should have their
everyone should be treated equally on a social level and

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then fiscally he's probably justconservative.
So that. Makes sense?
I so it was just interesting to hear that phrase because this
was 15 years ago and in society where we go when we go out, we
have heard in many other places that at the time when he said
that, I wouldn't have even picked up on it.
I just would have been like, OK,whatever.
Right, but not like great vibes doesn't give like great.

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No, no, yeah, doesn't doesn't feel great.
And what I thought was weird about this Leon situation is
then Meri tells Leon to share their thoughts and like feelings
and whatever. And like Leon takes out this
note and has this bulleted list of the reasons they should stay.
And to me, it just feels like this shouldn't happen in front
of everyone. Like I feel like Meri did almost

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Leon a disservice by being like bringing this up right now.
It's like when everyone's done talking, then you say, Kody, we
need like 10 minutes or something.
And you find a time and you sit down and have this conversation.
In my opinion, it felt like thattoo, right?
Yes, I think that part did also.But even just the beginning
leading up to that felt like everyone was talking about them

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right in front of them and I just didn't, I just didn't like
it. But but their concern was kind,
right. Like, the reason that they were
concerned made sense, and everybody acknowledges that this
is in some fashion going to be harder for Leon than anybody
else. And so I like that they were
thinking about it. But yeah, I didn't think it was
the right way that the conversation should have

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happened. Yeah, I don't remember what Leon
said, but something like, don't you think I've thought about
this or something like in responding to them?
And it was the whole thing just fell off.
Like it was like, Oh no, like this isn't going well.
Everyone stop. Right.
Like like they're presenting a business case for the rest of
their life or something. You know, like I.
Yeah, that that felt weird. I didn't, you know, especially

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knowing that they had family still there and things like it's
almost of course they don't wantto split up the family, but and
I don't remember how Leon adjusts to Vegas, I guess.
So that'll be curious to see because I feel like maybe they
do half decent at starting off somewhere new that was totally
different than where they were before.

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But like, you know. I hate to say it again, but to
Kody's credit, they're going through a lot of stuff.
And like in a short period, I don't know that any parent other
than Meri probably had the capacity to even really figure
out the details of what that could mean.
Like we got to go is their thing.

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And he probably to an extent if,if an exception is made for
Leon, then all the other teenagers that don't want to
leave their friends and things too, right, then they're at a
place. Well, why can't I stay if they
get to stay? And I mean.
There's a whole another level ofthat with this.
Family and so OK. Like a lot of kids at that same
age. Yeah, yeah.

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But he, he says that it is his responsibility from God until
they are married for these children to reside in their
home. You know, I'm sure that's not
the rule for the men. I'm sure the men can leave
before they're married. But for the females, his
responsibility. But, you know, they marry him
off young, so that's not like they're there until they're 30,

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you know? Sorry, maybe.
No, it's so mean. No, that's true.
I think, you know, he kind of gives himself an out.
He's like, well, at least 18, atleast 18.
But, you know, if it was really up to me, then it would be until
you're married, like, OK, all right.
Yeah, if he doesn't marry you off at 17.
But you're right, this is it. Like if I if you're still here
when you're 18. If we haven't.

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Told you your planned husband. Here's your 40. 2 year old
husband. Leon, meet Uncle Julie.
Oh God, I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop.
Meet Robyns brother. Oh my God, so.
Creepy, creepy. So we cut to Robyns half House

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and the bottom third says that it's Saturday and that there's
three days to the move. I always pay attention to when
they do that because oftentimes they don't really give us clear
timelines. So when they give us something,
it's like, okay, got to pay attention.
But then sometimes it's it's also three days to move.
Like why is it titled 3 days to move?
Like anyway, I just whatever. And also I'm a little confused

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because if it's Saturday and it's 3 days until the move,
they're leaving Monday morning at this point.
So that's today, tomorrow and the next day.
That's not like today is day one, I guess.
OK, so this is 1 and then that'stwo and then move day is day
three. So I feel like still it is
questioning. I don't think they're giving us
the the information that would actually be helpful.

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And I hate that. This is why I hate it because
it's like, why did you do this? Why would you even do?
We wouldn't. You could just leave it off.
There wouldn't even be a need toput it.
These producers are terrible. So Robyn's packing in her house.
The kids are sitting around and she references, this is where we
learned that they're supposed toleave on Monday morning.
She says that out loud. So after the cryon has said

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three days to move, then it's like Monday morning and it's
like, OK, now I'm trying to do the math.
And why am I even doing the math?
Like, fuck this show. And Dayton's birthday is on
Sunday. So Dayton's birthday is the next
day. Yes.
They cut to the couch. Meri reiterates that they have
nowhere to live in Vegas. So this kind of it just kind of
comes out of nowhere that they're moving and they have

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nowhere to live. This is insane.
It's like, OK, this is where it all starts to fall apart for me,
right? So.
So this is like, OK, not only are we, you know, wrecking our
children's lives because we haveto up and move so quickly and,
you know, whatever else, but also we don't know where we're
going. Yeah.
So pack up your homes. Oh, my God.
It's like that car or that song.Pack up the car, whatever it's,

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but pack up your car. We're leaving.
We don't know where we're going.And there's 20 plus of us.
Yeah, and like we're winging it.Yeah, we're leaving on Monday.
No idea where we're going. We're going to Vegas.
Yeah. I this is where the anxiety
begins and it doesn't leave, right?

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So yes, they don't have homes atRobyn's half house.
However, she is wearing her layered shirts that like I would
have worn in the 90s, right? So I just and like the big
chunky necklace, like it's, I probably had that outfit when I
was in high school, but in true Robyn fashion, we're 15 years

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behind, right? So, but like, Oh my God.
OK, so. So they do this couch moment
where Meri's talking about how they have nowhere to live.
And then we cut back to the halfhouse where Kody shows up and
he's bringing in a suitcase. And he does make reference to
like how it's sad, Like, oh, I've only been here long enough
to have one suitcase worth of stuff.

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And my mind wandered for a second and I was like, are you
saying you're only going to packup your one suitcase worth of
things and leave? Or like why do you like?
Why is this? What he does actually, because
it goes back to the other one. Because it's like, how does this
become a bullet point unless youare emphasizing that you only
have one suitcase? It's like OK so I guess he

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probably does just pack up a shit and leave.
I mean maybe he doesn't do it leave immediately, but it just
stuck out to me as something weird.
Robyn is upset. She's angry at God.
She's angry. She's angry at God.
She's angry at God. Oh gosh, I, I didn't hear her
say that. Wow.
I'm actually angry at God, but Ibelieve in, usually I believe in

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miracles, and I don't think there's a miracle that's going
to save us from this. Yes, yes, really angry, really
upset. They're jumping without a
parachute. Yes, and I'm like she heard that
from Kody because he loves saying that and.
One of the kids, I think it was dating, was like, we don't want
to do that, That's a bad idea. Yes, yes.
And then does the of like flyingand then splatting.

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It was so good. I was so team dating.
At the moment I'm like, Yep, that's what your family's doing
is jumping out of a plane and splatting.
So that's fun. And she keeps referencing how
she's barely unpacked, right? Like she so so this is she's
more than anything. I think she's pissed because she
finally fucking unpacked and settled.

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And I'm going to use the term settled in lightly because there
still isn't anything on the wall.
And it doesn't. I mean please, she.
Finally took some things out of some boxes to put them into
closets where you would never see them anyway.
So she did that, right. But you know, I'm upset about
this. You know, I'm upset about this

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because she used she's she's such an idiot.
So when she's in the house, she says, like, I just unpacked in
the last few months and I'm going like I've been saying
since the beginning of this fucking podcast, what does Robyn
do all day? Like, what have you been doing?
It's not like you just moved in last week.
It doesn't make any sense. And then they come to.
School right? Like all of her kids are school

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age at this point. They don't have the two babies
yet. No, no, she.
I. What is she doing?
What is she doing? I And and then there's another
moment when they're on the couchand she talks about how it's
like, I've only been here a little while and I just unpacked
a little while and I'm like, what?
Being settled in a home, I understand moving a lot does
suck and that's and it's not easy with kids that all that

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shit sucks. But her reference point is boxes
and things and I'm like, how could you even?
Like her half house was her dream home that she's having to
leave or something and it is notlike.
Half home is her dream and it's got nothing in it.
But she unpacked. Nothing.
Oh God, it's just so ridiculous and so the.

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Neighbors had to have been so happy they were leaving.
Oh my God. Can you imagine?
They probably had a party. They probably had a party.
They probably they left. Not only is there kids yelling
and screaming in this half house, there's nothing on the
walls to like break anything up.There's no curtains on the
windows. There's nothing.
It's just an empty box of kids screaming like move her the fuck
out. They totally threw a party.

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They did. Yes, it was her 4th move in two
years. That's a lot.
So that I don't love that, you know, but also choices.
These are choices you made. Yeah, yeah.
OK. Apparently they offered a part
of Janelle's part in the compound, her part of the
apartment when Robyn moved to town, and she couldn't do that.
She couldn't impose on Janelle anyway.

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She's also she's also upset on the couch about the move.
Like she talks, that's when she's crying.
Yes, she has a breakdown. She has her sobbing moment.
No, this is like first sobbing Robyn.
Sobbing, sobbing, sobbing. Robyn.
Absolutely. I didn't take note of anything
she specifically said because. It was.
Gibberish and whatnot. I think the the IT was repeated

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several times. I thought it was.
I just thought it was finally. You're right.
There's the the bouncing. Yeah, the bouncing.
Yep. Very.
Upset. That was really good.
Honey, you do a good Robyn. Thanks.

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OK, well, I don't actually love that, but.
She is very upset and she's letting us know.
And I think to Christine's credit, she does try to console
her a bit and like, ask her, youknow, a question or something.
And I was like, see, Christine does try.
You might not believe it, but she's trying.
There are some fun moments though, where colors start
coming out towards the end of this effort, like as they're

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moving their way through this and it is like, oh snap.
Some true colors, some Cyndi Lauper moments coming up.
Here yes, yes so as Kody's packing his suitcase at the half
house OK and I think he probablyexits shortly thereafter, but
he's he's sitting there and he just it's it's so much heavier

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than he had imagined. This is all and and the kids are
fighting. So there was a moment where
Dayton was like hauling Aurora around on his shoulders and
she's like screaming and kickingand they're fighting and they're
going nuts. And Kody has to like step in and
like draw the line. Like, no, I am not going to let
this happen. And it's like, OK, well, you
cost a buddy. Like, sorry, Sir, but everybody

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is stressed out, right? Like everybody is freaking out.
That's at the half house. Yep.
And then yes, they they move on to.
Back to the compound. But yes, I don't remember if
it's this at this point or not. You'll have to tell me if you
remember where they zoom in on apicture, a drawing on Dayton's
door that has like a skull and crossbones and is like do not

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enter. And then they show footage of
him with like a Nerf gun thing and he's just laying on the bed
quasi like disassociating slash looking around, just laying
there. And he was kind of like like the
camera peeks at it. OK, so this is what I recall
from that moment, yes, because Kody had just scolded them and
he lays down in bed or whatever.But it was funny because he he

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was like, like laying down in the bed and then starting to
come out as the camera came in. So camera comes in, he's
starting to get up, and then allof a sudden he just lays back
down and like, stares at the camera with his gun on his
chest. Like OK dude, like.
It felt like. You are over stimulated right
now. Yeah, it felt very like the

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cameras being voyeuristic. And then he's like, oh, I'm
caught and I'm just going to layhere.
And it's like, well, what's evenhappening?
Like, Oh my God. Very strange.
It was bizarre. It was bizarre.
It. Was one of those fun moments
where like, I'm sure as an adult, if you look back at that
footage of yourself, you'd be like, are you fucking kidding
me? Like they kept this in like I
look ridiculous. Or I feel like it would be.
I remember exactly how I felt inthat moment.

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Like I remember. Like, I was so wigged out.
Yeah, totally, totally. So yes, back at the compound.
And I love this because there's an exterior shot.
Allie, do you want to explain what's happening?
OK so on the script it says exterior the compound.
What is the setting? What is happening?
Well, we are watching the camerapan up to the home, but as it

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starts to pan up to the home, I think it's Janelle vehicle
maybe. But there's a black like little
car crossover, whatever in frontof the house and just like
moving boxes chilling on top of the car, just like we're we
don't want people to know we're moving.
We're trying to not make it obvious.

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And there's like lemon boxes on top of the yes.
This is an ongoing theme to the episode, which hasn't really yet
been brought up, but they're very concerned about the
appearance of them moving. Oh, we can't have anybody know.
Obviously they they don't want to tell people, but also outside
their home like moving trucks, etcetera.
In one of U-Haul, you know they're.
Showing the outside of the houseat night, there's there's

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nothing that indicates someone'scoming to get these.
Boxes there's. No humans around, there's no
person doing anything outside, there's just moving boxes on top
of a vehicle. Just maybe the cameraman was
nice and carried them in. I know the show is full of those
moments of like where, well, production could help them, but
you don't. Want them?
Oh my God, yeah. So good they I died.

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Yeah, it was an LOL moment. It was just classic brown.
Like, are you kidding me? It was one of the first Lol
moments there are, yes. Many there are.
We were laughing out loud. This is a good one.
This is a good one. And maybe we shouldn't have been
laughing at their misery, but wewere.
Laughing. No.
There's definitely some funny moments.

(28:16):
So when we go inside the compound, the first moment that
stuck out to me was when Janelle's being interviewed.
The kids are around doing things.
And I don't know if she's being,you know, it's like a spotlight
moment for her. She's just being asked
questions. And she pauses.
And you can hear Hunter behind her in the kitchen.
And he says, I just want to grate my face against this

(28:38):
cheese grater that's like this pause.
And Janelle goes, it's not a good day for Hunter.
It was 'cause she's like, well, that's alarming, but I'm gonna
just pretend I didn't didn't hear it.
It's so good. It's classic, like mom talking

(29:01):
to the camera, teenagers behind her saying a horribly wretched
thing. And it's like we're just doing
the best we can. So this is it.
They kind of bounce back. So they had a moment they were
in Christine's house briefly andthat you know, so they kind of
bounced her or their their spaces, whatever and bounce and
just kind of see the things starting to happen at all of the
places we've already seen Robyns.

(29:22):
We see a little bit of each of theirs.
It's crazy to me to watch these people starting to pack with
just the whole process in which they're doing it.
And then they're explaining whatthey're doing to these cameras
and I'm like, you are leaving inreally two days.
We're we're saying 3, but it's really two and whatever.

(29:44):
What the fuck are you guys doinglike this?
Nothing is happening in the way that I would think they must
have kicked the cameras out at some point.
And then like, we have to get shit done because they do
actually move. But what the fuck?
I mean, yeah, it was insane. The vibe is definitely chaos
Meri's place. I mean we see Bonnie and you

(30:05):
know, we don't get any introductions, but it's like,
oh, my mom's here to help me pack and I was like seeing
Bonnie, even though there's no reason to not like her, it's
just nice to see Bonnie. I'm I'm Team Bonnie I.
Didn't even notice Bonnie. Yeah, her mom was there while
she was going through things because we don't get a real
introduction. It's just all of a sudden she's
on the ground with newspapers, OK, all these newspapers.

(30:27):
And we will get to the newspapers and once this that
was our second laugh out loud moment, the newspapers.
But they did have a kid couch moment kind of flash in there.
You know, again, these things kind of whisk in and out the
back and forth of what they're doing.
But it was kind of more of the we're not hurting anyone.

(30:49):
We don't understand why people are after us.
What are we doing wrong? How does our life affect other
people? You know, all of that, Maddie,
she, that girl, she makes some reference to if a man has a
mistress, people are like, oh, good job, look at you, you have

(31:12):
a mistress. But my dad actually marries them
and takes care of their family. And apparently that's wrong or
something. And I'm like, we're comparing
polygamy to men. Yes.
I mean like, what are we talkingabout?
And it was such a, it's totally an angsty teen generalization

(31:32):
because it's like, no, the vast majority of people aren't
applauding men that are cheatingon their wives.
That's not happening. Stop it.
So very, very, very funny. But yes, now we are with Meri
and her newspapers. Yes, what?
What? What happened with all of her
newspapers? This is where we get to see
Bonnie, Meri's mom. And yeah, it's like all of a
sudden she's just on the ground with newspapers.

(31:53):
And she said, yes, you know, well, this is my sister's
obituary, and she died five years ago.
And I have 26 copies of this newspaper.
And it's like, OK And there's just like this weird moment.
And then they, like, show Bonnie, and she's just, like,
smiling on the couch. And Barry's like, I don't know
why I have so many of these. That's totally one of those

(32:16):
things. It's like, yeah, maybe you keep,
like, 4 or, you know, like, if people give them to you, maybe
you keep them. 26 copies of her sister's obituary in the paper
Wow and then what I love is because they're packing, she
says we're going to use some so then they cut to her like
wrapping up like glasses or faces so I'm.

(32:39):
Going to use my my my ridiculousamount of obituaries with my
sister to pack vagina like. It's so good.
It's so good. We.
Did this as we were watching it too.
We could not stop. Could not stop.

(33:00):
Laughing. So ridiculous that she.
Would even say it out loud. Like, yeah, like, maybe it would
be like, well, we're not gonna tell him that.
It's the obituaries. We're gonna use him.
It's newspaper. We need to.
No way. Crinkly.
Oh my gosh, at least and she, she didn't have a good sense of
humor about it. Like she was like, you know, mom

(33:21):
and I are kind of laughing aboutit and chuckling and whatever it
is funny. It is funny.
It's. Like you couldn't even come up
with this shit. Like what?
How does this even happen? Well, and then Meri said she'd
have been here helping me pack, you know, like.
Well, this is it. Then they cut to a couch moment
where Meri's, you know, upset, she's crying and she's like, you
know, my sister would have been the first here to help me pack.

(33:43):
And it's just like hot off the heels are shoving her face into
some cops because there's her obituary.
Face into cops. Well, you know, it's like,
thanks for showing up to help sisters rap, rap crinkle,
crinkle. It's just.
She's helping in her own. Way in a way, my sister did show

(34:04):
up like. Maybe This is why I saved them
all these years. This must be a sign from God
that Vegas is our future. My.
Except, as it turns out, God gives you many signs that it is
not. That it is not.
Actually, you know, now we're not there yet, but maybe, maybe,

(34:24):
maybe that was God saying you are not meant to make it to Las
Vegas. There's a lot of things that get
in their way, yes. Maybe it was God saying this is
the wrong thing for you to do. Like her sister in the newspaper
could be saying, Meri, don't do it.

(34:45):
Don't go. No, no, no, Meri.
That was me as I was being shoved into the glass.
Yes, she couldn't hear her sister because she shoved her
into a cop. God, Meri, fuck, God was trying

(35:09):
to tell you through your sister in a newspaper.
Yep, it's true. So then we're cutting to the
next day. So based on what we know about
the timeline and maybe they're lying to us, we don't know.
It should be Sunday at this point and the opening for the
morning is in Robyn's half houseand Kody's at the island on the
phone with Janelle talking abouthow Mona found them a rental, a

(35:33):
big house to rent. It is not available until
Tuesday and they were planning on leaving Monday and it's
available for 30 days. So obviously that's not a lot of
time. And so to anticipate that you're
going to move to New City and then find other places to live
in a month is an assumption I don't think I would make, but
whatever. Obviously they only have limited

(35:54):
options. One thing that annoys me the
most straight off the bat is that they're planning on leaving
Monday and they have to drive from Lehigh to Vegas, which is I
want to say for an average person would be like 8 hours or
something like that. How, how have they, how have
they not learned their lesson that they're going to have to
stay overnight somewhere like leave on Monday, stay overnight

(36:17):
and then like. And maybe you should just always
plan on getting a hotel room before you leave town.
Yeah, like in the town that you're trying to leave because
you're never actually going to leave town when you want to just
drive up the street, stay for a night and then head on out the
next day. My God.
That's really what they should learn.

(36:37):
Yes, yes. So this rental is not available
until Tuesday. Yes, Janelle is like no, I don't
want to wait. I'm leaving on Monday.
You guys don't have to, but I amgoing to because she is hell
bent on getting out of there, which is interesting.
I don't think until this moment we knew how much she was pushing

(36:59):
the seriousness of this. This was kind of our get that
stuff from Janelle. Yes, agreed.
I don't know that we really get beat over the head with
Janelle's anxiety to leave untilthis point.
While they're getting the day started, everyone's doing their
things in their units, their apartments, getting packed and
doing whatnot, and there's a lotof back and.
Forth. Kind of all over the place.

(37:19):
Getting packed in quotes becausestill I don't see any of the
packing happening so I'm just very confused.
At this point we do see things places, but yeah, not really
like how you and I would think of packing.
Nope. Christine talks about how the
kids are freaked out because of the sheriff's on the road.
And they give an example of the girls, the older girls walking

(37:40):
down the street and you know, they saw a sheriff and then they
even had footage of them being on the road with the sheriff at
the same time. It's a sheriff's vehicle driving
by. I feel like they are magnifying
the issue, but I also don't know.
I mean, like, I don't know. What do you think about it?
Well, at one point I was like, yeah, the cop drove by, like,

(38:01):
whatever, Like, no big deal. But then they referenced driving
up and down the street. Now it also makes me flashback
to when the cop turned around ina driveway, Like, shut up, you
know? So yes, maybe sensationalizing

(38:22):
what the police could potentially be doing, but
definitely pointing out their paranoia.
Yes, they are very paranoid. Very paranoid.
About all of this. And I think Kody even says that
like we there's some paranoia happening and it's true.
However, when you're trying to avoid looking like you're moving
and then you're not doing good at that because you don't want

(38:42):
to draw attention from law enforcement and then they're
driving up and down the street. There's some rationale in that,
but. And it's not like there's like a
warrant out for his arrest or something.
Like it's not like he's in hiding.
Like some of that I don't understand.
But then again, I've never been in their situation, so I'm not
pretending that I would understand what that would feel

(39:03):
like. It just can't understand at all.
They show a clip of Kody giving Dayton $20.00 because it's
Dayton's birthday. It's weird because, yeah, so
Kody said something like, oh, you know, I'll give you $20.00
for your birthday or something to go.
So he's an expensive one or something.
Just crack some dad joke, blah, blah, blah.
The reason this moment stuck outto me is because Robyn says to

(39:26):
Dayton, or maybe you could use that to buy yourself a dresser.
And I was like, this is what pisses me off.
She said that. She said that to him.
Maybe you can save this up to gotowards a dresser.
Something along those lines insinuating telling him he can
use his birthday money to buy furniture to keep his clothes
in. And that bothered me because I

(39:51):
don't really, I'm not a parent, but I can't imagine asking my
kid to use their birthday money to buy something as fundamental
as a dresser. That feels ick to me.
Felt gross. Now they don't make it a big
deal. It's just a passing moment.
And that's why it stood out to me.
That was, I was like, did you really just say that?
And she did. Now, I think that was around the

(40:12):
same time that was Kody. I don't think this is when he
was on speakerphone, but maybe he was talking to Janelle on the
speakerphone. I think maybe this was a little
bit before that, that he said something about them all being
able to stay together in one house at this rental, right?
This is a new thing for them. They all get to stay together in

(40:33):
this one house. And Kody said something like,
Robyn's really excited or something.
Or maybe he said she was nervous.
Robyn's really nervous because she's never shared a kitchen
with the other wives. So there's some level of that
stuff starting to come out that shows that Robyn ain't on board
with them all living in the samehouse, right.

(40:54):
Just, again, her being like, youknow, I don't know if I'm happy
about that or not. So.
Yeah. Like.
OK. There's a moment in Meri's
apartment where she's talking about how about Leon packing and
how Leon was had leaned and started leaning into being
helpful with packing things in the house, but not really their
room and that that was a bit much for them.
And so that they were being helpful.

(41:15):
And then sometimes not helpful. To me it just read as teenage
vibes, like teenager doing whatever you know.
This is kind of the point that Istart to realize as more and
more conversations are happeningthat not everyone is on the same
page about what they are taking versus what they are not.

(41:38):
And I was like, well, what the fuck are you taking?
Like what? You don't know what?
Then they mentioned this little trailer that like they were
going to try to have all their shit and this little trailer for
all these people because Janelledidn't want to rent A truck or
something. And So what were they bringing?
They were bringing Funk beds, clothes and dishes.

(42:03):
We eventually find out. Still, at this point, I don't
think we even found that out. There's a few more things that
happened, but it's like, yeah, OK, so that's what you're
bringing. And I was confused for a little
while, but then I realized because they haven't actually
purchased homes, they're in a rental.
They're this, they're not doing furniture and stuff yet.
But like, this was all just veryconfusing for a while about what

(42:23):
the fuck they were trying to accomplish in any stretch.
Yes, it did seem like a tier oneor first kind of step in a
strategy that you would do is like, what are we bringing?
And it was a bit weird to see them not even being on the same
page when they're talking about packing, Meri says she's not
bringing much. And Christine, it seems like she

(42:45):
needs to bring a lot more in theway that she was responding
like, well, I have to bring more.
And I was like, well, why is that?
But then I thought, you know, Meri does have one child who is
a teenager. And Christine has kids of all
ages, including like a relative newborn, like an infant.
So she has a lot of, she has more kids with more stuff and
they have to be more entertainedand all of that.

(43:05):
So there is a difference even with between the wives on what
they would probably want to bring.
But yeah, clearly if you're going to a rental home and you
don't have room for things, thenyou can't really pack things you
don't need. Like you kind of just need
essentials really. And I guess this is what happens
when you try to move 21 people in three days, you know, like.
But they have to. They have to.

(43:28):
Because there is some supposed concern that could happen at any
day, anytime, any minute, any hour, yeah.
Well, they don't have a storyline for the show without
this, so this is what's really important.
This is true. Interesting moment with Janelle
I did. I like this very humanizing
moment with her. First time we've seen this.

(43:50):
Yeah, she talks about being fearful of their move and what's
going on, that it's really affecting her that this is
affecting her children so much. And she cries.
And I thought it was heartwarming to see her have
such regard for her children andto be like to not see her so
upset about her own frustrationsor things having to do with her.

(44:12):
She was upset because of what was happening and how it was
affecting her children. I really like relationship with
Kody. Like they were not always on the
same page either, and so they were struggling a little bit
there. Yeah, she was.
She was super. Her emotions were her emotions.
There was no putting on a show for a camera that was 150% how

(44:32):
she felt. Yeah, and you can see her
uncomfortability with being thatemotional, like demonstrating
that, like crying. She's obviously uncomfortable,
but it was very humanizing to see that from her.
And this is when she says, well,no, we're not waiting until
Tuesday. We're not waiting until Tuesday.
We have to get out of here now. We have to get out of here now
and then. And Kody wasn't loving her

(44:53):
responses to that. He was kind of like chill out a
little bit, like calm down, why,you know, whatever.
But then he's at Christine's andthis was one of my favorites.
So good. It was like just like any
family, right? So relatable, so relatable, so
good. He walks in the kitchen and he's

(45:13):
talking to Christine and Meri and he goes, well, your sister
wife and he's referring to Janelle because Janelle is like,
we are not waiting. And Christine goes your wife.
Yep. And he goes, she's your sister
wife right now. And it's like.
So. Sick.
It was so good. I thought that was great.

(45:35):
I thought that was great. It was very, it was another one
of the LOL moments like Oh my gosh.
We chuckled. I'm just talking to your sister,
wife. It's like when I'm talking to
your child and it's like now it's our child.
Yes, it was, it was so good. And, and he said, you know, in
Janelle's head, they're after us.
And it's like, well, isn't in everybody's head that they're

(45:58):
after you because isn't that thewhole thing about why you're
doing this? And, you know, I, I think it's
so funny how he picks and chooses the things that we can
be worked up and freaked out about, but then somebody
actually is. And he's like, well, no, no, no,
no, not that much. Calm down.
Calm down, calm down. I'm just asking you to leave in

(46:19):
like 24 hours, your home and your life, to go somewhere you
don't know for, you know where we're going.
And definitely telling your wifeto calm down is always the best
position. That's always worked the.
Best. Of course, of course.
Yeah, Kody says that I'm puttingmy foot down like we are leaving
on Tuesday. I'm making the decision.
Someone has to make the decision.
It's me and Meri. Meri.

(46:40):
Meri. How does her blouse grow?
She's so good, she says. Why?
Because you and Robyn made this decision.
I'm just asking. Yeah, she sounds defensive as
fuck. And then immediately Rihanna
says I'm just asking. And it's like, oh, really?
You're just asking? Just curious, Meri.

(47:00):
I don't think the vibe was. I'm just curious.
I think it was really. The vibe was And so this is
where it's kind of the whole problem with all their shit,
right? So there's one wife over here,
and then there's three wives over here, and they never feel
like everybody is together on the same page and fully informed

(47:21):
about all of the things all of the time.
So they feel like he was just over at this house and made a
big decision that affects everybody.
And none of them knew about thisin this house.
And they're just like, what the fuck?
And that's how it continues to go for the rest of their
marriages. You know, like that's exactly
what happens every single time. Yeah.
Yeah. Like come on Kody, get your shit
together. Yeah, Kody reiterates to the

(47:43):
group that they're leaving at 7:00 AM on Tuesday.
So it's like 7:00 AM He says something like we need bodies
and vehicles at 6:30. Like, OK, Kody Brown, we've
we're only in Season 2 and we know that's not going to happen.
I was going to say, gosh, what? Where did they end up on the
time? But much changes.
Before much changes, yes. Yes we don't.
Yes, absolutely. And Leon has an interview

(48:05):
moment, a little spotlight moment, and basically
acknowledges, like, I get it, we're moving.
I'm hopeful that maybe somethingcan change for me in the future,
but got to go with the program and I'm going to suck it up,
Buttercup. And that was that.
I don't know. It didn't really.
It was just kind of like, OK, sounds good, you know?
Amen. Yep.
Yep, we've accepted it. That's OK.

(48:26):
And then we have Dayton's birthday party at Robyn's half
home the day before they're moving out of state.
We just got to keep it normal. We just got to make sure that
Dayton feels special on his birthday.
And they did cake look delicious.
You know, a good old sugary chocolate Walmart bakery cake?

(48:47):
OK, I missed the cake. And then if they didn't show a
lot, right, But there was a moment where they were panning
the room because it's, it's so funny when they have these huge
family things together because there's just people like lining
walls, places, right? And so the camera kind of pans
by and there's Christine and she's watching Dayton like blow

(49:09):
out his candles or cut the cake or something.
And she's all smiling and clapping and she's so happy
because it's a kid with a birthday and things are great.
And Janelle is standing there just, yeah, cross armed,
serious, you know, because of all of the things going on.
Yeah, sure. Right.
But like, she was not able to push through and enjoy this

(49:29):
birthday party, at least at thatmoment that the camera showed
her because she was just like, straight.
It was polar opposite. It was very fun.
Like. OK.
Amen. But.
I mean, I don't know that I would be able to put on much of
A smile, but no, I also would hope that I would, but you never
know. I would just be freaking out
about all the shit that had to get done.
And while we were standing here doing this cake fucking thing,

(49:51):
like we need to get some shit done.
Like that's what's probably going on in her brain, you know,
so. Kody has a spotlight moment.
Yes, he does. And the memorable line for me
was there will be tears, so. Leaving this magical house at
the beginning of that, he was like this house.
It's just been magical and and quiver lip.

(50:14):
Yes, there will be tears there. Will be tears, really upset.
This is where we do start seeingsome things from Kody, like the
quiver lip that you just referenced and kind of the
pauses where maybe he's acting, I don't know, but he's trying to
display some emotion or hold it back.
A normal person would be trying to hold back their emotion soon
as what he's doing. Right.
Unclear of his motive. Yeah.

(50:37):
We have a commercial break and then we're back and I think this
is the next day, right? I think that's right, yeah.
Because they did the cake thing towards the end of the.
Day because that was the wrap upso.
This is so now we're at oh God, Monday is this.
So now we're at Monday, the original move day.
Right, OK. So once again, why isn't there a

(50:57):
bottom third saying it's the next day or Monday?
So This is why this show fuckingsucks.
I'm just like, why did you tell us three days ago before and now
it's like the day before? Like anyway, so they're all
back. We.
Need all the information. Well, if you're going to give
some, at least give it correctly.
And like, so we're all packing, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they cut to Christine and she says that the press found

(51:19):
out that they're moving and now they need to leave immediately.
Somehow they are aware that the press is going to post a story
in 24 hours. So I don't know if that means
someone notified their publicistor how.
I don't know how all that works out.
Why you would give someone a heads up that you're releasing a
story in 24 hours? Maybe to give them an
opportunity to comment but I don't know why they even have a

(51:41):
24 hour heads heads up frankly. But somehow they do.
Yeah, and this has changed everything.
The The fact that the press has found out has changed everything
Which. Even if they were going to do
the story in 24 hours, that'd bethe next day when they were
already leaving the next. Day like this is again
manufactured crisis. So I first it was funny because
Christine was like, TMZ is a like she starts to describe what

(52:06):
TMZ is and then shrugs it off and says, anyway, the press
found out. And I'm like, OK, yeah, like
hysterical. But TMZ back in the day, right?
Funny, funny, funny. So.
So this has pushed up their timeline.
Yes. We are now in full panic mode
more than we have been for the last two days, which is really I

(52:26):
like, I, I think that was the point that I said my anxiety is
through the roof. Like I can't even watch these
people do this right now. It was a lot.
Yeah, because their trajectory wasn't to be in a good place on
Monday anyway. They're already like chaos
trying to get things done, figuring it out.
And then you layer this on top of it once again, like it is ATV
show. I don't know how much of this is

(52:47):
manufactured. We will never really know
unless, you know, Christine tells us in her book that's
coming out next month. But yeah, there's now there's
this new pressure to make it even faster because the press
found out they do cut to Logan in the back of a U-Haul and the
ramps out. And especially I think it's just

(53:08):
some of the younger boys are bringing things, you know,
moving things out of the house. And he says we're not bringing
all of Peyton's wordless toys. And he's like, there's twenty
boxes in here with your name on it.
And Peyton just seem to take thenews the hardest, I feel like in
their family thing. And I'm sure he probably was
like not being very mindful of what he was taking.

(53:30):
And Logan's an older kid being like this is unnecessary and
whatever. But I'm just making note of that
for the future that I think paidin.
It probably is one of the kids that took the move the hardest
and the most extreme and it likeimpacted them.
And so every step of the way he was probably being told no and
like, what are you doing? You know, not to like put Logan
down, but he was being very kindof dismissive.

(53:50):
It like, just like, this is ridiculous.
Like, what are you even doing? And it's like, he's just a kid,
like, oh God. But also to be fair, they have
this little trailer. They don't have much room.
No. And I think that that again, so
not everybody was on the same page about what that like it's
sometimes, yeah, if you tell a kid pack up your room, they're
going to pack up the room and they're going to put it in boxes
and then people are moving the boxes.

(54:11):
And so like, yeah, who knows? Like again, I just don't think
it was or how. Did Payton have 20 boxes of toys
to even bring out? This is it.
And then you watch them so they pan through the house as they're
like, as they're supposedly packed, like they're getting
ready to leave. Yeah.
And random shit fucking every like the the conditions they are

(54:34):
leaving these houses. In.
Terrifying. They they don't even have time
to clean. They say OK, so family's going
to come in and help with the compound anyway, right?
So they're going to come in and help move things on and work on
the compound at some point, but they do have to fully get Robyn
out of her place. But good news that wasn't
settled in anyway, so. She had to pack up her five

(54:56):
boxes. It took her three months to
unpack and move out of that rental.
Like, they have random piles of linen just on left on floors in
the living rooms in the compound.
Like, wow. Yeah, I could not.
I could not. Amen, Amen.
It's. A lot.
Robyn's tearful moment. Yes.
This is not the America I learned about when I was in

(55:21):
school, OK? That wasn't AS.
Good. It wasn't good.
You probably would do better. This is not America that I
learned about when I was at. School, There you go.
Oh, that was good. You even had like the school.
That was pretty good. It was said like a Utah person.
Yeah, OK. Wow, that was good.
The talents I am developing fromthis.

(55:41):
You're really good at turning your ES into IS honey.
You're really good at that. You have a Robyn is emotional.
I don't care. All right.
So fuck Robyn. Yeah, packing outside.
This is OK. Highlight of the day.
Highlight. Highlight Chris, please.

(56:04):
I don't even know if I can take this one because this is this is
iconic. This episode has such iconic
moments. Meri turning around to the
siren, that's completely fake, iconic.
I don't even think I can say second right up there is Janelle
right up there going for that gold medal is Janelle walking
out of the house? It seems like it's dust.
Maybe the sun's just coming up bad.

(56:24):
I don't know. It's not that bright.
But she's walking out. I think she has a purse on in
her hand and she's got her coat on.
She is going somewhere. She is walking with a mission
and she says it's like brain damage with this group.
There's room in the vehicles. Pack the damn car and it's like
she's losing your shit. She's losing your shit it.

(56:49):
Was absolutely phenomenal. It's like brain damage with this
group and it's feel her pain 100%.
We need to see more moments of yes, because yes, how anybody
can stay mentally stable, yeah, in any of these scenarios, I
don't know at times, but. Well, not only does Janelle have
the gift of being a career woman, so oftentimes being able

(57:10):
to be out of the house and kind of like leave that world behind,
then she's like, OK, we're moving and she's now having to
probably take ownership of more than she's used to at home.
And then it's this like, of all things.
And she's probably like, why can't anyone figure anything
fucking out? Right, right.
And yes, brain damage. Amen.
That was the best thing I've ever heard.

(57:32):
It's like. Brain damage with this group.
And she didn't even like glance at the camera and she said it.
She was walking straight ahead. She was just like.
She was. So pissed.
It was like, yes. This is the moment where Meri is
closing up the trailer and she looks behind her because there's

(57:53):
like a fire truck in the distance somewhere.
There is a siren of some sort. I don't think it's the siren
that was played in the clips or any of the things that you don't
think there was any siren at. All honestly, what I think
happened is she's closing the thing and someone yelled like
Meri or whatever. It's like she's glancing in a
fashion that they felt was a dramatic moment.
Now maybe there was a siren. I'm not even going to think

(58:15):
there's a siren. I think she was just turning and
looking. And I think that's entirely
possible as well. But it it then gives us that
spooky, this paranoid, this like, Oh my gosh.
And you know, Kody is like, oh God, oh, this is too much.
And So what do they have to do? What do they have to do?
Take a break from everything andgo pray.
Oh, this is it. Obviously.

(58:39):
That's what you do. That is the next move.
After you've pretended to be in fear over a fake siren while
closing a U-Haul. And yeah, then Kody says they
need to pray. Yeah.
Ali, do you remember what he prayed about?
Do you know what he prayed about?
Do you remember anything about it?
I don't. I don't either.
I didn't listen to what he said then.
No, I remember a few things he said after that, but during the

(59:00):
prayer they were all just huddled together, uncomfortably
close. Yeah.
And for me personally? Yeah, yeah, that could be
uncomfortable. You like to pray from a
distance. I would have felt
claustrophobic. I would have, you know.
Yeah. But then he he says, and again,
manufactured crisis where we're basically leaving under duress.

(59:25):
Yeah. I don't know that that's
accurate, but in his mind that is what's.
Happening Self-imposed duress. And they're going to drive as
far as they possibly can, Yes. And did you catch the?
Until our naval scratches our backbone.
Yes. So for some reason we also have

(59:45):
to starve while we're doing this.
And is that what that even means?
Naval backbone, your stomach is empty.
That's what it's the implication.
So he's saying we have to starve, we can't even stop food.
What are you talking about, Sir?Now, it's interesting that you
knew what that expression meant.I've never heard it.

(01:00:07):
I didn't even know what it meant.
I get hangry, that's why I. Know you're like, no, people
have asked me like, is my navel scratching my backbone?
Yeah. I didn't know what it meant.
Sadly. My visual was like the body
coming into like a loop, like bending over like Mr. Burns.
I didn't even know what. I didn't even know what it
meant. I had no idea.
OK, so it means you're not even stopping for food.

(01:00:30):
Like, you're going, right? Doesn't matter.
And I'm glad we cleared that up.Yeah, I learned something today
from Kody Brown. God so yes, we.
Not really from you. Not actually from Kody.
From you, yes. We can't have snacks and can't
have snacks. Fights do like come up about
this as they're on their their. Journey.
Which what a journey it is. Yeah, I didn't know what this
navel scratching the backbone is, but now I know.

(01:00:52):
And that's beautiful. Yeah.
And you know, there is a point here where then they're doing
like a collage or whatever the song playing over their collage
of footage of them doing things called Jesus Wants me for a
Sunbeam. And I really like this song and
I think it's great and I think it was used well, but.

(01:01:12):
Was that sarcasm or no? I really like it.
No I know, I actually googled itlike when I first watched the
show. Like I was like when I saw this
episode late more recently I, I don't know if I ever found this
actual exact one, but it's like a a Mormon song for like
children and stuff like that I guess.
I don't know but I thought it was great.

(01:01:33):
I actually really liked the song.
Wonderful. It's.
Emotional. It's touching.
Right. That's what I was feeling.
Yeah, Yeah. Jesus wants me for a sunbeam,
and then they're on the couch and I know that one of the
things that Christine said is that if we stay, our family
could be broken up and we'd be living in fear.
It's like a continuation of their generational fear of their

(01:01:53):
family. It kind of felt like they're all
just kind of giving themselves like the, you know, oh, yeah, we
should definitely be doing this.We should totally be doing this
because things are really scary.I don't know, I guess.
Well, Robyn said she thought they had been naive to go
public. To go public.
And I think that's fair. But again, what's manufactured

(01:02:14):
versus what's not because like, they probably could have stayed
in Lehigh and live this life thewhole rest of their lives.
Like, I don't think their familywas going to be ripped apart,
but that's fine. So personally, personal opinion,
Christine also referenced that, you know, people have changed.
People have been very welcoming to them.
That has been great. But the laws haven't changed.
And so, yes, whatever that meansfor how they can move on, right?

(01:02:38):
Well, you know, it's interestingwith that whole thing of the
moving because of the laws and whatever, because they might
break up our family. I don't know.
And maybe this is just too logical.
Maybe it's not logical at all. But if you're going to push
against laws and you're going totry to make change happen, what
not better opportunity than whenyou are on TV and you could

(01:02:59):
leverage things. So like, why wouldn't you stay
and be like, are you really going to break up a family
that's on TV? You're going to do this?
Like, I feel like you would haveso much more leverage actually.
So I don't really, it doesn't make sense in so many ways.
So then we cut to them leaving in the dark.
Now this is what's funny. It says I was the dark.
It's always night time. That was morning time.
That was something I don't know that I got a sense of that they

(01:03:22):
need to spend all of Tuesday packing.
Or did they leave Monday night? Did they clarify that?
I believe they left Monday nightbecause I think they didn't end
up delaying it until the day that well.
I believe they left their homes Monday night.
Monday night, yes, I think that makes sense.
I don't know if I missed if theypointed that out or not, but

(01:03:44):
it's dark. They're leaving, Kody says.
They got 11 or 12 miles out of town and then there's a flat
tire. Now, honey, I don't even know
how to describe this road trip. Oh my God, what I love is this.
The first flat tire of the trip is on Kody's Lexus, and like you

(01:04:04):
said, they're only 11 or 12 miles out of town.
They're trying to find a place to get a tire and at night or so
early in the morning that it's dark and on Martin Luther King
Junior Day, right? So businesses are closed, quote
UN quote. I'm not sure if all the auto
maintenance places are closed because of MLK Day, but you

(01:04:25):
know, whatever. Also, why has this family not
yet gotten AAA? That would be money well spent
though, honey, like that would make sense.
I mean. How they don't have AAA is
beyond me. They have a lot of and.
I've never had AAA. You have.
I never have. It was money well spent.
And I this is not our first example of terrible things that

(01:04:49):
happened to this family when traveling.
And this is not our first example even or this is only our
first example on this trip, which is followed by another one
and another one, another one andanother one like this is
insanity. AAA would probably cancel their
account because they would be like you can't, we're losing
money on you. They are, yeah.
They're not. They're not to the good on that.

(01:05:11):
So they're trying to figure out this car situation.
They're doing like a musical kids thing, right?
Because they've got a caravan everywhere and so one vehicle's
on, you know, out of Commission,they have to move kids, they
have to play whatever. So then they finally figure out
something about the tire and I, I about panicked at this moment

(01:05:32):
because Kody says they couldn't find the exact same tire that he
had, but they found one that would work.
And in my mind, I'm going, you fucking idiot like you are not
putting one new tire on that will work.
Like I was panicking. But then we did find out that

(01:05:54):
he'd had to then buy a set. So he did buy 2 new back tires
which thank you Sir. Yeah, he did not clarify that at
1st and it did sound literally like it was eyebrow.
Raising. Like you're buying one tire that
doesn't fit the vehicle correctly but it will work, then
it's like 2 OK. And not the worst.

(01:06:15):
He made several other choices though that were as
questionable. Post this ladies and gentlemen,
This is only our first. That is true.
I haven't even had a cocktail yet, too much caffeine.
So they have replaced those tires and aren't even one more
mile down the road. Well, in that initial effort,

(01:06:36):
they noted took two hours. So it took them two hours to get
the non correct. But we'll work tires for the
Lexus and put on and then they hit the road again.
Yes, and we're off. Just kidding.
Less than one mile later. Christine now has a flat tire,
so the tire maintenance in this family also no bueno.

(01:06:59):
Very, very bad, very poor I and I also am guilty of that.
So like, I'm not super judging, but this is a lot.
I maybe would have inspected it before moving the entire family
across state lines. But girl, if you only have two
days to do it and you're lying and saying you have three, I
mean, this is there's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure on
those bald tires. Lots of pressure on those ball

(01:07:19):
tears. Wow.
Yeah, yeah. Logan then says we've only gone
25 miles in two to three hours. Like this is a complete shit
show. They show Christine on the phone
trying to, or maybe it was Robyn, I don't remember.
But Meri is just leaning againstthe side of the car.

(01:07:40):
Did you see this? And she just has this shit
eating grit on her face and I'm like, what the fuck is going
through that bitch's mind? I love it.
Because that moment is right after Kody talking about how he
turned into a sailor and then his he was like, you know, holy
cow. And I'm like, holy cow.
Like I'm hoping your actual sailor language was more

(01:08:02):
dramatic than your couch sailor language.
Holy cow, Holy cow, cow. Holy cow, Kody.
Holy cow, Kody. And then they cut to, I think
Robyn is talking to the camera or something, and Meri's on the
phone and she's, Meri's holding the phone next to her head.
I think she's got her arm on herelbow and it looks like she's on

(01:08:24):
hold or she's waiting. She's doing something.
And she hears what Meri Robyn's saying and she has a grin on her
face like y'all are a mess. Yeah, and like, none of this is
my shit. Yeah.
Like I'm not letting this botherme.
Yes, I'm like I'm. Like water off a ducks back
Meri. Took her Xanax that day, totally
like she. Could be drugged.
She could be drugged because shelooked a little like this is

(01:08:47):
fine. Like literally it's signed
whatever. I'm like how is this possible
like it was? So good, but I love that that
moment stuck out to you because I felt that moment like I felt
like I could be that person. Just being like, this is a
disaster, I know. So here we are.
I know. So good.
Medicated, Meri. Medicated Meri.

(01:09:07):
We're using that for her awkwardly placed smiles
sometimes. So then there's something, and I
don't remember all the details about this because once again,
Kody's solving problems. So I'm a little in and out of
it. Well, this is it.
Solving problems though. I can't really get on board, but
the tire that he gets for Christine's van doesn't work.

(01:09:29):
And I don't know, I can't remember the details on how that
doesn't work. Do you remember?
I will tell you, OK, this is ridiculous.
Yeah. So Christine has a spare in her
van, but it's a traditional spare.
It's a. Small.
Donut, right? But now Janelle has a full size

(01:09:52):
spare in her vehicle, so he looks at it and sees that
they're the same size lug nuts or whatever.
And so he decides he's going to put Janelle's spare onto
Christine's vehicle. OK, so as he does this, I think
maybe she drives for a second and it's like, this is not good.

(01:10:13):
They pull over. So this did not work.
Janelle's spare. And then as he was trying to get
that one off, because now at this point he thinks I will put
Christine's real spare on and then we'll have to figure out
what we're going to do permanently.
He starts breaking lug nuts so he can't get the spare off.
He says he only broke 2 before he stopped so that's good.

(01:10:35):
Yeah, except the next day when they're on the road, there's
still only three lug nuts on that fucking tire.
Like he didn't replace it. So they're still broken.
Like the wheels not fixed because you have to get them out
of the inside journey. I don't know.
There was a flash to the tire the next day and she did not
have all the bolts. And I'm like, of course that's
what you would do. Of course that's what you would

(01:10:55):
do. So.
So then Kody's questioning all of his life choices, you know,
is this a sign? Right, that we are not supposed
to go signs apparently. This is not a feeling.
It's he. He needs a sign that that that
we still need to go. It's not a feeling and it's not
a vibe. He needs to hear an audible

(01:11:16):
voice, yes, from God. Yes, just out loud.
God has to speak to him in orderfor him to understand what he
should do. But then boy he it's he snaps to
it. What does he decide?
We're just going to stay in a hotel.
Right. I mean, it comes to his
attention. I don't know that he just comes
up with this, but someone decides they should go to a

(01:11:38):
hotel room, someone suggests it,and he's.
Oh, yeah. Oh, and even the way he talks
about it. Oh, yeah.
I guess, you know, that totally makes sense.
Like wouldn't that be one of thefirst things you would, that
would be one of the first thingsI would think.
So I don't really get it. Well.
Yeah, I don't think the answer is to spend 10 hours on the side
of the road with my family tonight.
Like what are you talking about?I.
Mean and I don't remember if that was I know you said talked
about Logan and there's a reference here to four hours and

(01:12:01):
only getting 20 miles and I'm not sure if that was Logan's
statement that you said earlier or not, but they have literally
only gone 20 miles out of town. Yes.
It's like they have barely left.Yes.
And so This is why I'm saying like they should not even really
try to leave town the first day.They should just go stay at a
hotel and then hit the road in the morning.

(01:12:22):
Like that's what that's what they've had to do.
What was the other road trip that?
We. Yes, and it was that the car
started on fire, remember? Robyn's car.
Started on fire, started smokingor whatever and so they decided
to again, terrible choices anyway so they don't ever get

(01:12:42):
anywhere. It takes them 24 hours just to
leave town. I just feel like those were all
of the signs that you shouldn't fucking go.
Oh, and then the next morning, and then the next morning he has
a flat tire on his fucking trailer.
Yes, there's the third flat tire.
So the next morning, the Chiron,the the bottom third says

(01:13:04):
Tuesday. So now we're getting told that
it is Tuesday. Thank.
Thank you, production, for letting us know what day it is.
They're leaving the hotel and a few hours later, Kody gets a
flat on the trailer. Yes. 100.
Yes, and they're there. Don't give a lot of details on
this. I think it's because they know
we've already been beat over thehead by many car issues.
So there's kind of just an overall sumMeri that like the

(01:13:26):
Highway Patrol stops and they'rejust ensuring safety, you know,
like make sure the kids on the side of the road.
But they do have to, you know, foreshadow it with, you don't
know, the State Patrol's going to, oh, we might be arrested on
the side of the road. Let your adventures let your
mind wander. I mean, seriously.
And of course, it's just some probably some State Patrol being

(01:13:48):
like, just make sure all of yourfucking kids are like, not on
the road. I mean my God.
So they made it 200 miles in 24 hours.
OK. And then this is when Christine
has her meltdown. So I thought this was so funny
because she was like, if anybodywould fucking listen to me
anytime. Basically she's like, nobody

(01:14:09):
listens to what I want to do. And so now I'm like, we need to
feed these children. We need to whatever.
Like she is freaking out and sheis saying I'm in a car with
kids. This whole time I'm hearing them
complain about how hungry they are, how tired they are, how
they blah blah, blah, blah. And she is at her wit's end.
Meri's like my drive was peaceful.

(01:14:30):
I just drove the truck like she's all by herself.
So this is not only would it be so frustrating to listen to
these kids on this trip, but then to know that there are
other adults. I shouldn't say no, but I'm
assuming some of the adults really did just get to have kind
of adult responsibilities. Meri, for example, driving a
U-Haul truck. She's by herself.

(01:14:51):
Whoever was driving the Lexus like these, some people got
easy. Christine had a van full of
fucking kids and, excuse me, full of children that they love
and adore, that we're probably all moaning and bitching and
complaining the entire time. And I yeah, she was the one that
needed the Xanax and I felt bad for her because that would suck
to have adults being like, no, you don't understand our mission

(01:15:12):
is this and being like, no, you don't understand that we have
all of these humans that need things and you're ignoring it
because of our mission. And Kody literally says no I'm
still pushing like he doesn't. Yeah, yeah.
We only have one hour left, so we're going.
Yeah, we only have one hour left.
We're going. Crazy, crazy.
You got to get your belly buttonto your backbone.

(01:15:33):
The naval. Naval got to.
Starving the children like I don't understand why we couldn't
made some fucking sandwiches that you can throw around.
Like I went on a road trip once with my kid and I had a whole
thing full of shit just for every minute because.
Those caravan moments while theywere waiting for a vehicle.
Someone couldn't go to a gas station and buy some shit.
I mean, these people are idiots.These people are idiots.

(01:15:55):
All of these things, all of these things.
Morons. Yes, literal, literal morons.
But yes, Kody insists that they keep going because there's only
one hour left before they cross the border.
So as they they're showing footage of them, you know,
approaching the state border, there's the like you're well or
entering Nevada signs. You can see Vegas off in the
distance. And it is great because that's

(01:16:17):
where we get the voice over or at least interview moment from
Meri being like, well, I was just alone in the alone in
U-Haul. I was driving across and I
thought this feels peaceful. This feels, you know, good.
And Kody's like, yeah, right. Like did it felt good, right,
trying to elicit this from Meri like it does.
It feels like home, Right. And she was like, it felt, you

(01:16:38):
know, relaxed or whatever. She's just using these words
that are very like, wow, I'm sure Christine's like, like,
ready to kill someone. And Meri's like, I was listening
back now. She would probably be listening
to, like a Mel Robbins podcast. And I'm like, I'm ready for it.
Yeah. Let's let them.
I'm moving to Vegas. I'm going to let myself.

(01:16:59):
It's just and poor Christine, probably losing her mind.
Meri's hair moment, did you? Meri, she had some hair.
Okay, but her hair so we we lovethe under the curl under right
or the out yes, what however we would describe that.
But what was really special was that the curls were like even

(01:17:22):
with the top of her head too. Like there was like a curl up to
here and a curl up to oops, sorry, excuse me, curl up to
here and just, yeah, full side curl like, yeah.
There were tears. There were tears of the curls on
her head for. Sure.
Like a wedding cake, but it was Meri's hair.
Yes, yes. Yeah, there was a lot going on

(01:17:42):
with her hair. But my favorite thing about
their arrival, without the details yet, but just overall,
was Kody on the couch and how Vegas is his Plymouth Rock, that
he needs religious freedom and this is his exile.
This is where he's got. It's his Plymouth Rock now, you

(01:18:03):
know, OK, maybe the laws in Nevada are less stringent and
all of that. So that's great.
It's weird though, because I don't know that I've ever heard
of Vegas as a Plymouth Rock or anyone really going to Vegas for
any kind of freedom other than prostitution.
Like, hey, if you want to own a brothel, Vegas is a great place,
but I don't really think many people are going to Vegas for
religious freedom. So it feels a little weird, but

(01:18:25):
I guess in their case it is true.
I mean, is it though? You know, like.
You know, I guess because now he'll only be wanted from
another state instead of in the same state if that happens.
Hypothetically, yeah. These big declarative things
that he does that are like. He's only comparing himself to
the people that fled Europe for religious freedom, right?

(01:18:48):
So he went across the ocean in aboat and landed at Plymouth
Rock, right? But it was really just trying to
get his fucking family across the state line.
Right, because his hardships arecertainly comparable.
Yeah. Oh yes to yes to the pilgrims.
Of our nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good job, Kody, Good job they. Definitely spread some illnesses
around, that's for sure. Yes.

(01:19:11):
They don't vaccinate, obviously.Well, they.
Right. Do we?
I'm guessing no. I'm guessing no.
I'm guessing listeners. If you are aware of all I know
what you're saying now spreadingaround.
You know, but, and to be fair, Ido think one of the brown kids

(01:19:32):
as an adult, like on Patreon or something like sharing their
story, maybe it was Gwendolyn going to like a public
university and then having to get like all of the vaccines
because like, you know, as an adult, there's certain things
like you can't do unless you're vaccinated and maybe staying in
a dorm at a public school is 1. And so she had to get all of her
vaccines as an adult. So they probably didn't
vaccinate. Yeah, Amen.

(01:19:54):
But you know, that's OK if you're keeping it in the family.
Well, they don't have health insurance, so how could we
vaccinate anyway? I can't just right?
Though I love what we're talkingabout, their move to Vegas and
it's like sidewinded into like, you know, they're just spreading
illnesses all around and they'rejust doing whatever.
Like it is what it is. Like the Pilgrims at Plymouth

(01:20:17):
Rock, Like here we are, but so. So they made it.
Eventually they do arrive at therental.
They do arrive and Mona's there to sign paperwork with them.
Poor Mona. So like Mona like holds this
door open and the whole fucking family like starts going and
it's just like, like, you know how like you're waiting and
you're waiting and you're like, is there going to be a break

(01:20:37):
when I can stop holding this door open?
And no, there is not. You are just going to stay there
and hold the door for every single person.
Now they say that this house is big enough that they can all
stay in it. Yeah, yeah.
Where was that space? I don't think they give us many
details. I don't know many details.
I saw one small room and lots ofhallways.

(01:20:59):
Well, this is so the living space is definitely like single
family standard living space. Like there's like a living room,
dining area, kitchen. That's all we see I think at the
beginning here. Well, at least in our welcome to
the house, it's like they tried,like someone's having a family
reunion, like everyone's piling in, but there's not really room
for them all, so they're just kind of jockeying for a place to

(01:21:19):
stand. Can't wait to.
See how this all pans out? Yeah.
And then of course they're they're to sign paperwork.
So the adults are sitting aroundthe table signing their leases
or doing whatever. Meri talks about ending 1
chapter and starting another. OK, sounds good.
Do you think it was funny that they're all signing off on this
lease like they certainly did? They don't need.

(01:21:40):
Yeah, it's like, who is? Signing, but it was like all
the. Meri was signing well.
They were, but they're you couldsee like initials next to like
there was just all these initials and it's like, yeah,
certainly that's unnecessary. I don't.
Know yeah five adults on a 30 day lease of a single family
home I. Don't know.
Like, I don't know how it's not just Meri and Kody or something,
but whatever. Right.

(01:22:02):
And then Kody gives us another nugget of his, you know, lovely
conversations with God. Did you, did you hear that?
He did talk to God. He well, he asked God if if God
would have his back. If I, if I do this, if I go
public, if I become this televised narcissist, Oh my God

(01:22:26):
voice in my head. When you pull your shit out and
I was. Like, well, you have my back,
God. God was quiet.
That was good. I got to give myself a pat.
On the back for that one was really good.
God was quiet for a long time. Long time apparently.
You know, God was like, I don't know, let me think.
I'm not sure. Let me get back to you.

(01:22:47):
I don't know if I should reward you for all of your wives.
God left Kody on red, but then just in time for Kody's 43rd
birthday, which has a lot of relevance somehow, somewhere.
Which isn't today, right? Like this wasn't his 43rd
birthday. No.
So he's. Telling us about a a time in his

(01:23:08):
past on his 43rd birthday. Recent past though, I think.
Recent past. OK.
Maybe we just covered it in an episode that he had a birthday.
I don't know. But you know, 43, he is like 43.
He's 43. Like it's this last birthday.
He is OK. God told him yes.
Yep, I do, he says. He literally says oh Yep I do.

(01:23:29):
OK, I missed the direct quote, but that's great.
But like, Yep, thanks, that's that's how God speaks.
Yep. So God said Yep, yeah, I do.
He said yeah. He said what?
Yep. Yep, Yep.
So God says yeah on his for his 43rd birthday.
God said Yep. And then what I love is that,
you know, they're showing some more of the family getting

(01:23:50):
settled and we've got Maddie. Yep.
And so they're starting to come into playing Jesus wants me for
a sunbeam again. And this is I'm I'm a fan, but
it's starting out quiet and they're showing some scenes of
montage. This is when I'm saying collage
or like montage, the montage of some stuff happening.
And they give Maddie a spotlightmoment, interview moment, and

(01:24:14):
she says I hate it here. And then there's some question
from the producer or the director, and she says I want to
go home. And so that made it very clear,
the vibes at the moment, like they were only using her as an
example. They didn't interview any of the
other older kids. But she is clearly not having it
and she wants to go home. No, they showed Logan like

(01:24:34):
crashed out on a bed like I you could just kind of tell the
vibes from the kids as they're panning through this house.
It's like none of happiness, right?
Like they're these are not happyvibes and feelings.
This has been a rough 24 hours for everyone.
And yeah, you know. And now they're getting into a

(01:24:56):
home that has enough bedrooms for everyone and everyone's
sleeping on a queen size bed andsuper comfortable.
Right, that's. A stretch.
I'm wondering how many kids are sleeping on the literal floor.
I wonder how much we're going tosee of these 30 days.
Yeah, If I remember correctly, we don't see a lot of the of
inside. You know, there's not a lot of

(01:25:17):
let's show the terrible conditions this family's living
in. Like, call CPS right now, right?
Well, this is, you know, going to be a wild ride.
The the laws that they're violating, like the fire codes,
yeah, yeah. They probably had to lie and say
how many people they had moving in.
Yeah, right. Like.

(01:25:38):
Well, this is also the reason. Why of 12?
By the yeah, like what? First of all, why you would have
that many adults sign a lease Because hello red flag.
Like why are there 5 people moving into a house?
But then yeah, they lie about their family.
We're only 12 people to make it seem smaller.
Insane. Insane.
Watch, we're going to find out that a couple of them have to go

(01:25:59):
stay in like an extended stay hotel, right?
They could never afford that. But yeah well just I mean I
don't even know how you find a house available for 30 days.
Like Mona did her job. Mona did her job.
We are giving Mona some props asa realtor.
She took their unrealistic expect complete shit show and at
least got them all place. It probably was illegal and

(01:26:21):
unethical, but she did her job. It is.
A roof, yes. Yes, there's a ground of sleep
on. And a pot to piss ONS and a pot
to piss in. A pot to piss on.
Oh God, making my mom proud. All right, so we are coming up
to mustard seed and shit stain. I like to start with the mustard

(01:26:43):
seed, start with the positive. OK, so do you have a mustard
seed this episode? Are you going to go?
You have to go with it. You have to go with.
It it's Meri. It's Meri, OH.
Did you think I was going to go with?
I thought you were going to go with Janelle.
Oh. No, I am going with Meri.
Okay. Medicated Meri.

(01:27:04):
Medicated Meri for exactly that reason.
So good. Because somehow Meri, whom we
don't always give credit for being like super reasonable
about things, I think came across as the most reasonable
human this entire episode. Agreed the.
Shit eating grin when everything's hitting the fan.

(01:27:25):
I cannot. I'm just it's so was I don't and
it was you guys. It was like a second and a half,
like it was brief, but it was like no one in their right minds
would have that smile on their face right now.
Like, I feel like she was on thephone with like, Jen or
something and being like, they're all losing it.

(01:27:46):
They're not all losing it. Like, it's so great, you know?
That's so good. Anyway.
The job's back in the truck by yourself.
Yes, most peaceful drive I've ever had and.
Finally, I could admit it alone.So for me it has to be Meri and.

(01:28:07):
No, that's great. You know what I love also about
you picking Meri. That you don't have to.
Is that I have picked Meri a lotrecently and I always have to
validate and justify an answer forgiveness and you did it
without doing that, so you're showing.
Me. It's OK to pick Meri.
Meri, it's OK for you to pick yourself.
OK, we are we are having some Meri appreciation moments and

(01:28:30):
that's that's. Love love medicated Meri spot
spot on. And I think I do have to give my
mustard seed to Janelle for the cinematic magic for the moment
of it's like brain damage with this group quote.
Because it's like brain damage with this group is the most

(01:28:51):
succinctly I have seen Sister Wives described at this point.
Which is funny because it doesn't even make sense.
Yeah. It's like brain damage with this
group. Clearly the brain damage is
happening in the like we are there, we are there.
The frustration, I just it was so good.
It was it was magic. Thank you Janelle for that.

(01:29:12):
And also to sideline that Janelle had a very emotional
moment talking about her kids where we did get a heartfelt
moment from her, which is great.So all about Janelle this
episode. Now, I would give a run runner
up Mustard Seed to good old Logan for taking charge and, you
know, doing the things and keeping people on track and

(01:29:34):
whatever else. Honorary.
Honorary. Mustard.
Seed. Yeah, definitely like stepping
in where Kody could have been orshould have been, but we don't
know. You know, whatever the fuck was
he, I know he was busy packing his suitcase at running.
The truck that they actually didneed, that everybody didn't want
to. And remember, he left like the
keys somewhere. There was that whole thing.
We didn't even talk about that. We did it.

(01:29:54):
That was right before the siren moment, because it was
overshadowed by overshadowed by Aurora and yeah.
Yeah, he parked a truck out front and then like left with
the keys and they couldn't move the truck and like.
Couldn't get into the trailer like of course you know where.
It's not like we need every second we have to accomplish
this. Fucking yeah.

(01:30:15):
I love that we've skipped over that.
It was just another moment of Kody's brilliance.
So yes, shit stain, who are you giving your shit sting to?
I. Mean it's one of two.
Right, whichever 1 you say I'm doing the other one.
So all. Right.
Well, I'm gonna go with Robyn. OK.
And I'm gonna go with Robyn. My reason for Robyn is because

(01:30:39):
of her sobbing Robyn on the couch moment when she just
thought she was here. I think what she meant by here
was like, I made it on the show and I got in with the family and
I made it here and I don't want to do anything else.
I just want to stay here. And that wasn't how it played
out for her. And it was really just all about

(01:31:00):
her. I agree.
I think the here is an absence of her having to make efforts
and try and do things. She probably just wanted a
little bit of time or she didn'thave to move.
She didn't have to take care of her kids.
She didn't have to do stuff because she's perhaps the
laziest woman on television. But yeah, absolutely.
And it. Really was all about her.
She didn't say anything about anybody else, just about not

(01:31:21):
even her kids, I don't think. I don't think there was a
comment about her kids but she might have said they didn't
include it but they did not emphasize that.
Another supporting point with Robyn was the whole use your
birthday money to get a dress orsituation.
Oh, gosh, and I even forgot about that because I hadn't
heard it, but yeah, Amen. Like, no, your kids don't buy
furniture for their rooms. Yeah, unless they want something

(01:31:42):
stupid. And you're like, no, I'm not
spending that money. You can save your money for
that, you know, like, that's different.
But not to have a place to put your fucking clothes.
That was so cringe and very minimal, which is why I just.
Yeah. And my shit stain of course is
going to Kody Brown because KodyBrown thinks he should move his
entire family hurriedly in 48 hours and does really poorly at

(01:32:07):
anticipating or reacting to any wrenches as a bad planner, bad
executor. And then somehow thinks like he
needs to tell us about hearing voices from God and how that's
like his thing for things. And he's just so full of shit
even when he's doing like you talk about the quivering lip.
Like he had quasi emotional moments this episode and none of

(01:32:28):
them moved me. I was not really feeling all
that empathetic for him. And he has.
I have felt empathetic for him before which disgusts me.
So yeah, shit stain. Now, this is not the first or,
I'm sorry, not the only time they hurriedly move either,
right? No, that's.
There's another. Again in the future.
Yeah. And so like they make these

(01:32:51):
choices. Yeah, and Kody plans poorly and
executes poorly in that situation.
I hope he checks their tires before that one.
That's all I'm saying. You know, it's like, can we
please go AAA? And he's like, we can't afford
that. Seriously.
Like. For the cost of that set of
tires, he could have a AAA for the whole family.
Whatever. Kody's an idiot.

(01:33:13):
All right, our keep sweet momentthis week comes to us from a
review on Apple podcast. So great.
This one is from Kathy Joe 74. Kathy Joe, Kathy Joe, she says
thank you. You guys cracked me up so much.
Deadbeat losers rock on and that's so great.
So, Kathy Joe, if you feel like you are a deadbeat loser, you

(01:33:36):
are welcome. To the club.
Kathy Joe, you are a deadbeat loser.
Welcome to the club. That's so good.
Wow. If you're listening to this, I
mean. Yes, yes, yes.
Welcome to the company. If you enjoy being a deadbeat
loser, then we're happy to have you.
If you think you're better than us, thank you for the five stars
anyway. You probably are.
You probably are. Yeah, if you made it this far.

(01:33:58):
Yeah. Yeah.
OK. OK.
Well, welcome to the club. Thank you, Kathy.
Joe Appreciate it. Our next episode is going to be
the season finale of season 2, so that's great.
We're going to have some things.This was obviously a big
episode. Our next one should be two.
Any advice for the world Ally? Anything you want the people to
know? Anything you want them to feel
or? Yeah, you know, if you're, if

(01:34:19):
you're getting in a car on a journey, bring snacks, OK?
People just take snacks. It's always the right choice.
And it's like a part of childhood, like when we would
take Rd. trips as a kid, we would get cheese, popcorn, Oh my
God, and Turkey jerky. Like there were things we would
get. And that was like a part of it,
you know? I had funyuns.
I ate an entire bag of funyuns on a road trip to Washington

(01:34:42):
state once and I got so sick andwe had to pull over and I threw
them up. I did not again have a funyun
until like a month and a half ago.
In life. 30 years I didn't have another bite of a funyon because
it still made me queasy to thinkabout it so.
Were you able to successfully keep the funyons down?

(01:35:03):
I did, and then I was a little mad because I thought these are
delicious. Yes, yes.
And so I haven't. I didn't go crazy.
Yeah, but just bring snacks, OK,guys?
I love this. You know, funyons.
I think I had my first Funyon asa stoned teenager.
Oh, like, I was like 17 or something and like stoned and

(01:35:25):
whoever I was with was like bunions and like, gave me one
and I was like, this is insane. And they were like, you've never
had a Funyun before? And I was like, no, like we were
in a Funyun house. Yeah, a Funyun home.
Yeah, well, a funyun. Home anyway for more for more
stories like this, like and subscribe and follow us on all
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(01:35:46):
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