Sister Wives S3 E1 - The Announcement - My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You.
Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
Just look at the mountain. That's what you saw that day.
Just the knife in the kidneys over all these years and the
sacrifices that I made to love you.

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Season 3. Here we.
Are you're so excited to be on Season 3, aren't you Allie?
I'm very excited to be on Season3.
Yes, yes. It's a big dill.
Very big dill. Yes, Season 3 Episode 1, the
announcement is what it's called.
Very exciting stuff. We have no idea what the

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announcements going to be, but yeah, we left.
We ended Season 2 with Robyn divulging that she is pregnant
and that she's going to Meri's house to talk to her first
before anybody else because she has the sensitivity to Meri's
sensitivities. Because Meri's body will not

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allow her to have more children.Yes, and we have to phrase it
like that, right? Meri's body won't allow her to
have any more children. But it's it's just it's just
kind of weird like big picture to end the season, season 2.
And I mean, I don't know, it felt like it felt weird because
usually in TV like a season endsand it's not like a cliffhanger

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on the in the sense of like mid scene, this thing's going to
happen. And it's not like a big dramatic
thing when it's a conversation. So it felt weird.
It just felt like a transition between two episodes, not
seasons. Well, very, very true.
And we're watching them closer together, of course, then like a
break in a season. But it's.

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So we left Season 2 with literally Robyn arriving at
Meri's house for this dinner that they're having.
Yeah, and teasing that she wanted to have this conversation
and then the season it. And now we resume Robyn entering

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Meri's home for this dinner and saying she wants to have a talk.
And then Meri says a private talk and she says yes.
And then for some reason they exit the kitchen that has no one
in it and like walk upstairs andbasically like sit down at the

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doorway of a closet on the floor.
To have this conversation. Yeah, a little odd.
I don't know if that means someone else was there.
That seems weird. But I don't, I don't know why
that would be if Leon's around. But even then, like, that
doesn't really make sense. Like, I don't know, very weird.
It was odd. Yes, and in this conversation,
Robyn tells Meri that she's expecting.

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I don't know. It felt, I mean, I don't know if
there was any big revelations from Robyn other than just
letting her know that she's pregnant.
Meri opens up about feeling sad about not having more children.
But from my perspective, when listening to Meri responding to
Robyn's news, it feels to me like this is something Meri is

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like kind of put behind her. Like it's not a an everyday
thought or feeling for her. I don't think that she's like
struggling with only having had one child, like on a daily basis
or something. Like that's not the vibe I got.
What do you think? I wouldn't say that was the vibe
I got, but it was interesting because the way she kind of
framed it was. I've never been upset about

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Christine and Janelle having more kids.
But I was sad, right? Like, like, yes, it was sad for
me to watch all, all of these babies happen and not ever get
another one of my own. She said she didn't feel sad
about Robyn. So it was different for her and
she didn't really know why, but she wasn't sad about this.

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She was excited. And so she told Robyn, I'm so
excited for you. Whatever.
But then Meri says something that I, I'm trying to think of
how she kind of started it because what I got out of it was
she said, well, yeah, Leon's 16 now.
And it's not likely that it would ever happen again

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naturally, but you never know. Like it, it almost feels like
she hasn't totally given up hope.
Like there was a moment in whichshe's like, if it did happen,
that'd be great. It'd be weird because my child
is 16, but it's not impossible or something, you know what I
mean? Like she she wasn't saying those
words, but she did say if it could happen naturally, even at

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this point, that would be fine. It would be weird, but it would
be fine. Yeah.
And I think she also said, you know, it would be like starting
over having a child with one's with her only other child being
that age. So I don't know.
Overall, my take was that Meri was appreciative of being given
this heads up and like understands why this would be

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happening, but I didn't hear herbeing, I don't know.
I don't know. I feel like it's not top of top
of mind. I don't know what the phrase is,
but I just don't think it's really all that much of A daily
thing for her. And I think Robyn and we'll talk
about this as we go to the episode.
I think Robyn wants it to be a thing for her.

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And Robyn, Robyn's really leaning into this for some
reason. And maybe we'll figure that out.
Maybe we never will. Who knows?
Amen. Yeah, so Robyn told Meri she was
six weeks along at that time. So we've been a little confused
at the end of Season 2 because Robyn and Kody say we're waiting

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until this move happens to try to start trying for a baby, when
in actuality, they had been trying before the move began or
even was probably set in stone, right.
It I think she got pregnant right around Christmas.
So maybe they had known the movewas happening, but we're not
close to, like, making it happenyet at that point.

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I I don't know. It was interesting.
So timelines again, always wishywashy with these people.
Yeah. They said no other kids.
No, but they did want to tell them all at that dinner that
night, the announcement they're going to make the announcement
at dinner with everybody else. Shocking.
Robyn cannot wait to go shoppingfor baby clothes, which I know

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most moms feel like. I'm not trying to say that's
super unique, but we do know that Robyn loves her shopping.
She does. So.
So that was great. And yeah, the conversation
seemed to go fine. Meri seemed OK with it.
It was pretty short and sweet. It wasn't anything crazy.
And then they went downstairs and kind of moved on to getting
ready for the rest of that stuff.

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Right, for everyone else to arrive, etcetera.
Also, it was interesting to findout that Robyn does want to find
out the sex of the baby. Yes.
Meri said she would never, you know, and Robyn thought that was
surprising because the planning she thought Meri would have
wanted to plan and you know, whatever.
But Robyn intends on finding outthe sex of the baby when she is

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able. Yeah, and Meri says that she
loves surprises, which surprisesme, right?
I mean like Meri likes surprises.
Yeah, I don't know. I think Meri just likes it if
people do things for her, which doesn't happen very often.
That's why it's a surprise. Yeah, yeah.
Before the adults, the other adults and and the kids arrive,

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they cut to a couch moment. And Robyn once again brings up
this whole concept of, like, being pregnant means that wives
are physical with their husband.And like that it means this
thing. It's such a symbol of the
intimacy between a husband and one of his wives.
And what I thought was weird is that no one else brings this up.

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Like no one else ever talks about it.
And it's just another thing about the polygamy whatnotness
where she's talking about how sister wives feel as a blanket
statement when she's never, she's been one for a hot minute.
And this is her first pregnancy in that situation.
And I feel like it's like she's highlighting it and pointing it

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out when no one else is. So I don't know.
Do you think that she's, I mean,I don't, I'm trying to wonder
what the motivation would be to bring it up because like, it's
only going to alienate you or like, you know, make people go
like, oh, yeah, I guess that's true or something.
You know, like I, it's not like a helpful thing to bring up.
So I don't even know why she would bring it up.

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I'm trying to think of the best way to put into words what I
believe and think because so yes, she calls it a physical
manifestation of the intimacy between another wife and their
husband, right? So this is, yes, apparently to
her, this is very concerning. Now, as you mentioned.

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And as you can see when they're all sitting on the couch, the
otherwise just kind of look at her talking with no, like
there's not like any nodding in agreeance.
There's almost a look of confusion on Christine's face.
Like, where are you going with this?
Like just a little interesting. Yes.

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This is her first experience being a sister wife.
None of them have ever said thisabout previously with children
being born in the family like that.
That was a thing. I think that the other three
wives are very easily able to separate those things.
I don't think they think about, I don't think Christine thinks
about, you know, Janelle and Kody fucking.

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I don't think that happens. I I think she knows it happens,
but she does that. She's not hung up on that.
What I think Robyn does with most of these things that she is
saying about how this is what sister wives feel in these
circumstances, I think most of it is projection because that's
what she would think. So she's never had to witness

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other than Christine being pregnant when she came into the
family. But I think in her mind, that's
like, well, he just fucked her and now there's that baby, you
know, like, she doesn't experience it again, right?
But like, I think it's projecting.
I think she's projecting how shewould actually feel and trying
to insinuate that the rest feel the same way.

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And I don't know that that's thecase.
Yeah, and I mean, we're such huge Robyn fans on this show,
but I'm like, I really wish thatbitch would have been able to
experience her husband knocking someone else up and sitting
there for nine months being like, I'm so happy for you and
I'm so whatever. Because she never did.
She never got to OK Christine was pregnant when she was being

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courted by Kody. I mean, I don't know.
Her husband didn't knock anybodyelse up while they were
together. I wish that both Christine and
Janelle had also gotten pregnantagain after Robyn found out that
she was pregnant so that she would have to share the
pregnancy moment with two other bitches and be fucking pissed

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about it the whole time. I think that's what I wish it
happened. Because Speaking of when you're
saying the other wives and how they maybe haven't had any
anything, the only thing that I could think of was there was a
time when I want to say either both Janelle and Christine were
pregnant before Meri or just oneof them early in their marriages

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where I think Chris, we're goingto talk about it.
Well, in the book they talk about it and I want to say Meri
had been married to Kody for like 3 years or something when
she finally did get pregnant, but the other wives had been
pregnant already and she was disappointed.
Of course, being like the first wife and being like, I've been

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ready to be knocked up for yearsand it hasn't happened.
But that's such in such a different ballpark that it's not
really related. And I, I just, there's something
about the way that the episode is, the way that it's edited and
the way they put it out where I'm like, there's something else
here with the Robyn shit. Like there's just something and
like you said, it's projection. It's whatever.

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But I don't, I wouldn't trust that bitch to like bring me a
soda from the fridge. So I she's just so untrustworthy
everything she does. Doesn't add up.
Doesn't add up. In a brief clip as they're
leaving the couch moment, they start to show Rob sobbing,
sobbing about how she's just so nervous to tell all the other

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people. She's so nervous, she just
doesn't know how it's going to go.
Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, they're all going to
throw their food at you. Oh.
My God, that would have been so great.
They've been great to someone actually had like a really bad,
like a crazy visceral reaction. I'm like so upset.
No. Way yes, yeah, go back to hell.

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It's like no that. Didn't happen.
It was quite the buffet. They did have food to throw.
Now I, I I'm going to go on a little bit of a tangent here
now. Hopefully it won't be too long.
I. Hope I'm I'll buckle in.
But Kody asks if they're eating on paper plates as Meri is still
unpacking. And I'm like, but however, since

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they have pots, pans, serving pictures, serving where all of
these things, I'm like, oh, but Meri doesn't have plates.
I just don't believe it. I don't believe it for a second.
And it drives me nuts. And the one thing about this
show that gets under my skin is that this family knows how to
fill a landfill 100%. Like, oh, we're going to get

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together. So we're eating off a paper
plates. All of the cups were disposable,
all of the silverware was plastic.
And I understand that it's like,OK, certain energy has to go
into washing dishes, both human and water and soap.
But it just drives me nuts on this show how many times they
get together in their own home. Nothing is happening other than

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they're eating and they're eating undisposable things.
And I think it's twofold. One, it's a lot of shit to clean
up. And two, I think they're just
fucking lazy. I think it's like, oh, we can
just throw all this shit away. And it's like, but most people
when they're having dinner aren't throwing away paper,
plastic Styrofoam products for 20 people just to have dinner.
Now I'm hope I'm not on a soap dish about this because frankly,

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I'm not necessarily like the greenest person.
Like I'm pretty like I'll throw a paper plate away.
I'm not like I have paper plate.It's like it's fine.
It just drives me nuts that it'slike this thing that just can't.
I don't, It gets under my skin. It gets under my skin because
I'm sorry, like running some water and some soap.
Do you know how much water and energy it takes to make paper

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products and Styrofoam products?Like, it just gets under my
skin. And I apologize for everyone at
home that thinks, oh, well, you don't know what it's like to
wash dishes for kids. And I'm like, yeah, I grew up
with two siblings and I washed all of our fucking dishes.
Now, that's not 20, but I just wish the default for this family
wouldn't be to throw all their shit away all the time because
everywhere they go, everything'sindividually wrapped.

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Everything's, I don't know, it is what it is.
It's also not very financially wise to be buying all these
individual things for everybody.Like when I was a kid, we made
pudding in a bowl and like it was in the fridge.
Like we didn't get pudding cups.That was like a luxury.
OK, sorry, I said it was a tangent.
It's a tangent. Because you have lots of
feelings about that. I don't really know why it

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annoys me so much because honestly I'm not that green of a
person. I don't really care.
But then I just hate it cuz it'slike they're being filmed.
It's like you're being filmed doing this.
I don't know, whatever. Well, I will tell you a couple
of thoughts, feelings and opinions.
One, I just truly believe Meri not having dishes in her home is

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likely because a box didn't makeit into her home and is now
buried in storage that they haven't yet gotten out yet.
Like I feel like that's why she,I feel like if she could have
had her dishes, she'd have her dishes.
That does vibe for the. Meri Guess about Meri, but aside
from that, I would be using fucking disposable for

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everything with this family. If I was feeding that many
people, I in fact, I'd probably use more like tinfoil dishes and
things to throw away so I'm not doing all those pots and those
pans and all that shit. I 150% would do that.
Now, I love to set a nice table.I love to have beautiful dishes

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out. I love to do all of those
things. A ladies and gentlemen, I don't
have a dishwasher. B ladies and gentlemen, my
kitchen is the smallest kitchen you've ever seen in your life.
So like, I know what a challengeit is to entertain and have
those dishes and do those things.
And it does suck. And on the right occasion and
the right holiday and the right thing, even entertaining many
people, I will still do those things.
But many, many, many times when our family gets together and

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does these things, disposable things are a lifesaver for us.
And it just means that everybodyelse can enjoy more time instead
of sitting there in the kitchen and doing all of those things.
And then the other thing is withthe, the amount of people that
they have there, you know, sometimes a, you can't get all
the wives in the kitchen to helpclean up, certainly not all the

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kids. Sometimes I'm sure they all jump
in to do different things together, but there's got to be
an aspect of like the person who's hosting or whatever else,
Like if they're the one stuck inthe kitchen cleaning up all this
shit while everybody else is outthere.
Like, you know those dynamics, you know, when people get
irritated when I just did all this, I maybe maybe I'm saying I
personally have gotten irritatedat times when not you're great.

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You help me clean all the time. So it's not you.
But like, you know, there are times with family and stuff that
maybe I have done the whole mealand maybe I have, you know, done
all China and all of this and I am exhausted and tired and I'm
not going to look at that kitchen.
But my God, if my dad jumps in and does the dishes, I am so
thankful If I'm like, I'm going to get it done and I'll do that.

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And everybody else is still justchilling.
I'm like, are you serious? Like not one person can come in
here and say, would you like some help?
Like and they don't, you know, Ican see how some of those
dynamics get wonky, especially with all of the things that they
do. So for the record, I am not
judging their use of paper products.
Or. Disposables, I think that if I

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was in their scenario, I would probably do the same thing and
I'd probably do it like far moreoften than I do like in my
regular everyday life now. But yeah, I think I would.
So I think I can go both ways. I think we can both, you know.
Yeah, well, this is what's funnyis it's like this isn't
something that I'm like protesting in the streets,
right? Like I'm not some like, you
know, college student is like, oh gosh, I've no Greta Thunberg.

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Is that her name? Yeah.
OK, good. Turnberg, Turnberg turn tunnel,
try to turn tumble. I'm not, I'm not great at turn
tumble, but I do know, well, I don't know anything.
I just think it's interesting that it's like, you know, oh,
Meri's like having this and, and, and I think maybe another
element of it is that it's like it's not an everyday dinner.

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They're coming together to do this thing or whatever.
And just leave the I don't know.Far too much detail.
Like I said, I mean I'm I'm looking for tits on an aunt with
this because I'm like, I just donot like you're.
Looking for what on a what? Tits on an aunt.
Oh, I've never heard that expression.
Kyle. Kyle Richards.
That comes from her. From who?
Who was her maybe ex-husband now.

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Maurice. Maurice.
Yeah. It's a Mexican expression.
It's like when you're looking for a problem, like when you're
looking for something that's notthere.
Tits on an aunt. Like you're looking for tits on
an aunt. This is maybe not a real
problem, I'm just going like that's an entire garbage bag
full of trash from one meal, butthat's that.
Now, earlier you did say you didn't mean to get on a soap
dish. Oh, did I?

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Yes, that sounds all right. Especially when we're talking
about dishes. That's funny.
It was really good and I almost forgot to mention it because I
just thought it was hysterical. So I think it's Soapbox.
I did step off my soapbox to my soap dish.
I was like, is that a new thing?That's funny.
Yeah, like don't trust any of the expressions.

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I'm saying tits on an aunt isn'teven real.
I just my gosh, yeah, it's probably tits on a titty coat, I
don't know. Tits on a titty coat, Yes.
So Kody makes kind of starts theannouncement by saying in seven
months truly won't be the baby of the family. 7 1/2. 7 1/2

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months. Which we also have to work out
that math by the way, but. Truly won't won't be the baby of
the family anymore. Won't be the littlest one that
which is I think what made it even more confusing.
He didn't say be the baby. He said truly won't be the
littlest one anymore. And it was like, do you mean
don't be that? Like maybe you could have said
baby. Yeah.
Yeah, I think people were confused for a minute.

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Yeah, it was odd, particularly because it's being teased up.
I mean teed up the episode is called the announcement and yet
for some reason Kody's just likesaying this thing and it just
sounds like classic Kody where it's like what the fuck are you
even saying? Most of the family is not
reactive now. Christine and a few kids did

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show enthusiasm. I would love to see the non
edited footage to see how long it was before Christine went oh
and went over to give her a hug.Like was it one second or was it
4 seconds? I don't know.
I, yeah, I was like, she got some hugs.
Like some, not very many. And there were a lot of straight

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faces and you could just kind oftell that there were wheels a
turn in in people's brains, but they were not saying a word.
Yeah, there was definitely a lack of enthusiasm.
I mean, realistically, and to befair, if you're going to say,
oh, I'm pregnant in general, theresponse that you would expect
is excitement and congratulatory, you know,

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whatnot. And it kind of, Oh my God, just
dead room. And then Christine was like,
I've got to be excited because someone's supposed to do this.
That was what I kind of thought,but I don't know.
I mean. It was so bizarre, So Mckelty,
Maddie, Aspen, Leon, Janelle. Janelle.

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Hunter. Hunter.
I think that's for sure the no reactions, or at least not a
pleasant reaction. I'm going to say there was a
reaction. The lack of reaction was
definitely a reaction. Correct.
It was the lack. Yes, exactly.
Exactly. It was kind of bizarre.

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And then Meri was standing thereand realized that Leon was no
longer in the room, so she went upstairs and found Leon crying
in the bathroom and they were very upset.
At one side note, Meri was having an excellent hair day.

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I was distracted by Meri's not terrible hair a few times a.
Few times and there was one timethat it wasn't wasn't great.
I also let's talk. She was wearing some green shirt
and it was horrible like a coverup and it was like made her skin
look like she was gonna die any moment.
Like it was terrible. Very pale.
Sorry about that. No, it wouldn't.
It was totally. It was but her.
Hair, but her hair. Looked hair was good and so I

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was like, hey man, that is the right way to do it.
Let's replicate this again, you know, and she does occasionally
so. That's funny they were giving
Meri hair props because that's not going to happen most
episodes. Well.
But yeah, they Leon was upset and Meri was hugging them and
they didn't have a whole lot of conversation.

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But then all of a sudden, Robyn comes up, of course, and
realizes that this is happening.And, you know, I hate to do it.
No, you know I hate to do it. Oh.
God, pay your taxes. Still working on that thank you

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payment plan. I don't like to give Robyn
credit. Yes, well, neither one of us do.
Now, I think that there's a level of Robyn interacting with
the children, it typically is better than Robyn interacting
with the adults. Like, I don't feel as much that
Robyn manipulates the children maybe, whereas she definitely

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does the adults or the scenarios.
OK, But she walked into the bathroom.
She saw Leon crying. She starts to tear up.
And then she says, are you feeling your mama's pain?
Yeah, and Leon, like, nods hardcore.
And then it's like, you know, I'm excited for you.
I'm very excited for you. But yeah, you know, sad that she

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can't have another baby. And I thought that was a really
sweet way of Robyn to phrase it because I do think she
understood what Leon was saying and or feeling, feeling.
And I thought that was actually a good moment, the only one of
her good moments in this episodeand probably in the last 10.
But I'll give her a smidge of credit for actually reading the

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room correctly one time. Yeah.
Well, and I and I, I agree that she does seem supportive.
Or you know it, it could be whatever.
She understands that the tears aren't about her and her.
Baby. She understands that the tears
are about the the Meri's body not letting her have another

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one. You know, like whatever.
She understands that that's thatis true.
No, that is true. I it's just another moment for
me of wondering like is she the only one pushing this narrative
out of, I don't want to say pushing this, but making it be a
thing? Now clearly Leon is upset, so
it's not out of nowhere, but I just feel like it's another

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opportunity for her to talk about how Meri doesn't have more
children. Light, I think.
I think her intention was probably good.
I just it's like I feel like I'mgetting beat over the head by
Robyn talking about Meri not having children.
It's like Jesus, Meri, Joseph, Robyn.

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Jesus, Meri. Joseph, Robyn.
That was weird. That was great.
Yeah, I was on. I slipped off the soap dish and
went wherever that was they can.Be slippery bitches.
Yeah. I feel like maybe what would
have made the situation a littlemore like swallowable or like

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clicked a little bit better, wasif Robyn and Kody did not have
excessive conversations prior tothis about why they wanted to
tell Meri first. I think they could have still
told Meri first just as a courtesy, but not be labored the
point so fucking much. And then if Meri had no reaction

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and was just happy for her, likeRobyn could have just said, you
know, I am the closest with Meriand I think she's the one I want
to tell first. We're going to tell the others,
you know, just a couple hours later, but I'm going to tell her
first. I don't think anybody would have
thought that that was bad or wrong and probably would have
understood why she wanted to do it without her having to say

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those words yet. They talked about it a lot at
length, and it still would have come up based on Leon's reaction
and potentially based on what Meri's reaction would have been.
If it wasn't so good, however, then Meri could have just been
the only one to talk about her feelings instead of the others
talking about her potential feelings that we don't even know

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exist right now. I think that's what you're
getting at when you say beating over the head.
Like it just, it didn't have to be framed that way in the
beginning from the other two. It could have just been, you
know, whatever. Like I'm overhearing Robyn talk
about other people's feelings and I as a person have a bit of
a trigger with that. Like when people try to tell me

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how I'm feeling, I'm like, I don't know why you're doing this
right now. Like this is weird.
So not a fan of that. But when we go back to the
kitchen, I it's kind of like we're hit over the head a little
bit by Janelle's non reaction, because there's these a couple
of Zoom in moments, some close-ups of Janelle just

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sitting there just staring, justlooking.
It's kind of like at the birthday party at Dayton's
birthday party right before the move in Season 2.
She's like straight faced while everybody's eating cake and
cheering on. And like OK.
Janelle Janelle's stressed. Janelle be stressed.
Yes. And she says that that her world

(29:32):
has been turned upside down withthe move, you know, and of
course, a big part of it for heris that she's not working.
And yeah, obviously that is a big part of her identity is a
career woman and someone who brings home the bacon and then
asks Christine to fry it in a pan, you know?
And I do also love because she says finite resources again.

(29:53):
And I just love this. Finite resources.
Finite resources. Amen.
She doesn't say we're broke and can't pay our bills, but that's
what she wants to say. Yeah, yeah.
Like that's why she is stressed.That's what I should say for
now. Come on.
When I'm broke, it's like I havefinite resources.
Amen. Amen.
Yeah. It's such a bookkeeper way to
say, yeah, literally, we have nothing.

(30:14):
But yeah. You know I did like so after
that they go to a couch moment right?
And 1st Robyn starts talking about how children are the thing
that binds them all together. OK, fine.
She mentioned that she was concerned that Janelle hadn't
said anything to her, right? But as you mentioned, all the

(30:37):
other things are what are stressing Janelle out.
Christine said that she recognizes that the change is a
lot different for Janelle than it is for any of the others
because she's not working. So I like that.
Christine acknowledged that she realizes that maybe Meri thinks
about that. Certainly Robyn does not.

(30:59):
Robyn doesn't think about anybody else and their feelings
or the positions they're in. But her.
Yeah, Janelle. Janelle said she's free falling
and she is struggling like she is not handling this well.
Yeah, she says. It's hard on her and it's hard
on their family like and I really think that that's a big

(31:20):
part of it. Obviously, as we discussed in
the last season how this is really a lot about her kids too,
like she seems to be really feeling it for her kids and we
will talk about this. They seem to be not taking it
very well and multifaceted. And it's interesting to see
these layers of Janelle. I do like that we're seeing some
layers even though I'm not happythat she's struggling.

(31:42):
I'm happy to see some emotions and some layers, but.
Do you know what I think is funny with?
I was going to say that Janelle is one of those people that you
could just, you could just see it on her.
She can't hide her emotions. She just is what she is.
And, and if those are coming out, you're going to see it.
They all are actually though, don't you think to an extent, if

(32:04):
Christine is having emotions, you're going to see Christine's
emotions. If Meri is having emotions, you
are going to see Meri's emotions.
And well, Robyn's just fucking Robyn.
So like there's all over the place all the time, but
interesting because I think thatto an extent all four of them
are pretty similar in that like they, I don't know that they

(32:27):
hide their body language a wholelot when it comes to actual
feelings they're having. Yeah, it seems like Janelle has
been at this up to this point, the most like stoic or whatever
in her, you know, And so it's just, and I mean, I feel bad for
her and the kids, but like I said, it's just kind of nice to
see her being a human being, sharing some emotions and.

(32:49):
Not the. And not the you're all crazy.
I'm good at a career. I have a job like OK, cool.
Like absolutely, that's great. But.
Or insulting the whole family because they're like brain
damage, Yeah. It's like brain damage with this
group. I mean, hey, she signed up for
it. She's part of the faith.
She stayed in a teepee for two hours to try to get in Kody's

(33:12):
good graces, and damn it, she got there.
Yeah. So not sure if it's the next day
or when it is, but we cut to Janelle's kitchen and her rental
home, and she's talking about Hunter being withdrawn and
isolating himself, and Kody shows up.

(33:32):
Or is there and they both start talking to him, I guess about
this and Kody tries to encouragehim to join football hunters
like eating some yogurt and justkind of like doing the whole
like mopey teenage thing. Like he's just like told his
physicality is very like I, I don't give a fuck.

(33:53):
I don't care about anything. Like that's a physicality.
He literally said I don't care. Yeah, and he's literally saying
it out loud. Yes, I don't care and he don't
want to. I don't.
Yes, he says I don't care, period.
It's a little weird because, youknow, you see parents trying to
like, they're concerned and theywant to be like, hey, like,
let's snap out of it. What can we do?

(34:14):
And Kody talks about the struggles of trying to get.
I thought he phrased it very weird though about the teenager
bit because he starts talking about like the challenges of
teenage rearing. And his perspective is that you
don't get feedback on how you'redoing.
And I was like, I have never heard that from another person.
I have heard a lot of things about child rearing and the

(34:35):
struggles of being a parent. And I'm going to hand the baton
to you in 2 seconds. But like, you know, but but I've
never heard like, well, you justdon't really get feedback.
I'm like, is this about you onceagain?
Like, is that your? It's about you.
I don't know. I don't know why I always think
Kody and Robyn are thinking, talking about themselves.
I don't know why that would be. But yeah.

(34:55):
What do you think about that? Having a teenager.
Well, I, I hear what you're saying that you don't get the
feedback that that's what he hadmentioned.
But the the line that he said that stuck out to me was that he
was questioning whether to push him or give him space.
And I think that maybe again, I'm giving him a lot of credit.

(35:18):
Why am I giving these two creditright now?
I don't know what's happening isthe one place I'm going to give
him credit. I think what he means is that in
the feedback sense, almost like you don't, you can't predict
that what you're doing is right.So if I push him, is that going
to be the right decision? Or if I give him space, is that

(35:38):
the right decision? Or are both wrong decisions?
Like what is the right decision?And that you don't necessarily
know, like you don't know how things are going to play out and
you might like, you can't necessarily get feedback.
Or I think he means more like encouragement on what to do and
how to handle the situation because nobody else's situation
is exactly like yours. Just like any family, nobody's

(36:00):
situation is going to be exactlylike yours.
And so how people have to handleit is just differently.
So I think they have to handle it, but I think they are
analyzing the situation in the same way in which any parent
would, seeing your child unhappyand depressed and not themselves
and not making friends or not liking the places that they're
at and knowing that you put themthere.

(36:23):
But you can't fix it for them and you don't know how to best
support them and try to make it better.
I don't remember how long this lasts with Hunter.
Like, I don't know if this is like it starts to get better.
OK, So hopefully it starts to get better because that's
terrifying and that's really uncomfortable to see your kids

(36:43):
in bad places, especially knowing that you put them there.
You know, I mean, in theory we put them all there.
We put them on this earth there.You know, it is what it is.
But that's what I think is hard about it, you know?
So I I thought it was helpful that he was asking the question
and saying I don't know what theright way to handle this is.

(37:08):
Do I do this or do I do that? And is either 1 going to be the
right way to do it? I thought he was processing it
correctly. OK.
It does come across overall thatJanelle and Kody's intentions
are good. I mean, their parents trying to
do their thing. I just for some reason, the way
he was talking about feedback, Iwas like, oh, I'm caught on that
word. Maddie was also there, and she

(37:28):
was like, oh, it's just how he always is right now.
Yeah. Like, I think she said it was
annoying. It was annoying, but I think she
also meant that she was worried.Like, she didn't say that, but I
think she meant that she was worried, you know, Like this
isn't not like everybody's uncomfortable with that vibe.
Yeah. So then we are going to have a
Sunday morning with the Browns or a Sunday.

(37:49):
I'm going to go late on the morning, which I'll get to.
But it is Sunday and there is talk of church.
Church is going to happen at Meri's house because they do not
have a physical church. They don't have a congregation.
They don't have a community in Las Vegas of other cult members
that sleep with multiple people in their own family.
So they're trying to keep their traditions instilled.

(38:11):
Kody is probably going to act asthe pastor and the leader.
What a shock. So they're going through the
morning, kind of. The kids are getting ready,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's different things
happening. So they kind of take us on a
little journey through all of the rentals while they are
getting ready for this church. OK?
And everybody seems to have different opinions about it.

(38:34):
Oh, everyone's so optimistic andgoing along great.
It's great. Yeah.
It's great. Yeah, great.
Enthusiastic. So at Robyn's house, they are,
yeah. They just kind of bounce around.
They're getting ready, talking about how they want to have this
connection with their religion, I guess.
She looks like she's on the Oregon Trail getting ready in
the bathroom with her at least one of the daughters.

(38:55):
Yeah. Blouse on top of blouse on top
of another blouse with like a white under skirt thing.
Like the thing you put underneath your other two three
dress skirts. I don't even know.
A slip, Yes, a slip. A slip that looks like a doily
from like great grandmother timelike Oregon Trail.
I wish, I I wish I was seeing the vision.
Damn it. Yeah.
Then they go to Janelle's house.They're all getting ready for

(39:17):
church. Logan was really excited about
it. He wants to to do this with his
family. He thinks it's important for
them that they should take extraeffort to like maintain their
religion at this time when they're not having the church
that they would typically go to.Janelle was fighting with Maddie
about something. I don't even remember how it

(39:38):
started, but Janelle was like Maddie, please, honestly that
was honestly honestly like so I don't even.
We heard her say honestly a few times in a row and it was so
good, honestly, honestly. So don't know what?
I think Maddie even said like I forgot it was this morning and
she's like honestly. Like, yeah, it was something so
silly. Yeah, but she gets her shit

(39:59):
together. And then at Christine's house.
Gwendolyn, Feisty little Gwendolyn.
I love this child. I love this child so much.
I'm not going. I don't like church like she's
she goes, no, but what is she like 7 or 8?
Maybe something maybe 9, I don'tknow.
But then Mckelty also says she is not going.

(40:21):
Christine kind of talks about trying to I I did what I could
to try to tell her that I think you should go and she is not
budging. Yeah, yeah.
So I believe Christine shares this with Kody.
Yeah, yeah, she's such a narc. She's like, Can you believe?
Can you? Your daughter is not coming to

(40:41):
church your. Daughter.
Yeah, and it's interesting because Mckelty is sitting on
the computer and it's it's so for those of us of a certain
age, we've sat at a family computer in a family room and I
saw what was on that monitor andit looked like a website from
Geocities. It was terrible.
It was trash. I mean, it was old school shit

(41:01):
and she's doing whatever, you know, looking up gang signs and
how to stay safe in Las Vegas orsomething.
And then obviously. That's probably what she's
looking up as gang signs and then all of a sudden she's on
the phone with Kody and she's sharing that she has a moral

(41:22):
issue with filming their church service to her credit.
I know why you would be like, hey, if this is so holy and
sanctimonious to us, why are we filming it for a shitty fucking
TV show on TLC? But the teenager and me that
would come up with that story toget out of going to church is

(41:43):
like, that's a story I had to come up with to get out of going
to church. A fucking men.
So I have to give her props either way because Kody, who is
a salesman, was like, I always tell my kids to pitch me to sell
it to me and she kind of did or something like that.
I can't remember what he said. Do you remember what he actually
said? Yeah, he goes and she did.
I don't agree with her, but she did.

(42:05):
So that that's the thing, She made her point.
He may not agree with her, but he is not pushing that issue.
And no, I can't do it. I can't.
Give him no more kudos. He caved.
He's weak. That's exactly it.
He should have been a strong father and encouraged those
religious beliefs with that girl.

(42:25):
That's. Right.
If I'm going to get you married out of here before you're in
college, then you have to come to church where you might meet
your future husband. That's my story and I'm sticking
to it. It's only family, Dad.
Yep. Oh my God, yeah.
I liked her take on it though. I mean, I really do think she
was trying to get her way, but Idon't disagree with what she

(42:46):
said. If she truly believes it.
If she truly believes that and that was problematic for her,
then 100%. Particularly the AUBI mean we're
talking about a cult. They are literally very private.
Their wedding ceremonies are very like everything they do on
the religious side is very private.
Because we've only seen them pray, right?
Like we've seen them do a familyprayer, but we have seen nothing

(43:11):
else. We don't see.
Yeah, no, no. They are very intentional about
that. And it might be because if
people knew what was going on, they would say this doesn't make
sense. But you know, I've never LED a
cult. Now here's the interesting part
about the church service though.Right.
So they do set up all of these chairs, theater style, facing

(43:31):
the front with Kody up there. And then everybody gets up and
read some Bible verses and things, whatever they do.
But I will give them credit to the extent that they don't
actually say much about what they're reading or what.
Like it's very just a, you see what's happening.
I don't think you can even hear really words of what they're

(43:52):
saying. So I think that it was kept
fairly private in that sense. I don't know if that was
intentional or TLZ was just like, this is terrible and we
cannot let other people hear it.They're like, we would exploit
this if there was anything to exploit, but it was probably
like a normal church service where it's like.
Yes. Or there were really horrible
things that they're like no, no,no, no, no, no, no.

(44:14):
It's either terribly boring or just terrible.
It's probably a mix of both, butin that sense, I thought it was
funny because it was almost likea moot point.
Yeah, they didn't share anythingabout the service.
They they showed what happened. Mckelty was trying to find her
boyfriend on the Internet. She was She was looking for

(44:35):
older men. Now, while Kody is on the phone
with Mckelty, I happen to glanceto the other side of the TV
screen and there's a digital clock that says 1145 S Part of
me as someone who went to churchas a kid, whose parents drugged
me, not drugged me, but dragged me like, drugged me like, pulled

(44:59):
me to go to church 11:45. Version of your dad.
Literally like grabbing onto youby the back of your shirt.
And being like, let's go. Absolutely fucking not get in
this car. We're going, But my mom is one
of those people that's like chronically late, especially
when we were young. Like, of course, getting kids

(45:20):
wrangled up. Like Christine was saying, like,
I need to see you wash your faceand put shoes on and like, be a
person. And we're leaving the house.
There's a little bit of that. But also in my household, my mom
was the one that's like, oh, we have to leave in 10 minutes.
Like, let's try to do all this now.
And it was like, oh, my gosh. So we were always late to
church, which was also annoying because I was like, why are we
always late? Like, why this is so important?

(45:40):
Why are we late every week but 1145?
Talking to your child about not coming to church that hasn't
started yet. Interesting.
Because that's a rather late start for a Sunday.
Like is it really that much of Astruggle to get out of the house
by noon? I don't know, seems a little
weird because most church services are like 9 or 930 or
earlier. I feel like there's like a 10 AM

(46:02):
and a 12:00 PM. Well, there's so.
Many different things there's. So many different things, but
I'm just saying it's funny that the vibe was a little like, oh,
got to get it. Come on, let's go to church.
It's like it's 1145. Like, hasn't everyone been up
for a hot minute? I mean, I don't know, like they
had a rocking Saturday night. What were they doing?
Now, it's funny you should mention that because this is my

(46:23):
experience with church. As a child, my parents played in
a band. They did not get home at
reasonable hours on Saturday evenings.
Yeah, yeah. And when they would have to get
us up for church in the morning,like if we would say we were
going or we had Sunday school orwe had whatever, it was so easy

(46:46):
to get them to say, never mind, we just won't do it.
Yeah, Oh, of course. It was so easy and I feel like
some of my laziness with not certainly not just church, but
like anything in general, I don't go to church.
We don't do that. But anything in general, like if
I'm going to be lazy about it, Ican kind of be talked into being
lazy about it. I'm looking at my parents.
It's like trying to get four of us up and out the door and

(47:07):
they're like, it's just not going to happen.
We're going to be way too late now.
We're not even trying, you know?And fuck, we won that battle all
the time. Well, good for you.
I know, because the opposite wasbeing in the car with your mom,
who's being like manic and stressed.
And it's like, aren't we going to praise God right now?
And then there's no praising. There's no whatever.
Yeah, well. Don't you think most families,

(47:29):
like, pull up to church freakingout at each other?
Yeah. Like most of them are not
probably doing anything Christ like.
So, you know, par for the course.
It's funny that Kody's leading this service and when they show
the all the kids, they look so bored.
They're just like, it's like whether church is in Meri's
family room or in a old stuffy building, it's the same.

(47:52):
Like the kids are just like whatever, they do not care.
I don't think I saw it, but I wouldn't have been surprised if
like Gwendolyn was twirling herself like upside down in a
chair. I don't think it happened, but
like it would that would be something like her hair would be
dangling on the floor while she kicked her feet in the.
Ass yes, and there were multiplechildren that looked like they
were going to fall asleep at anyminute.

(48:13):
So, yeah, hot off the heels of this very stimulating church
service led by Father Kody, we cut to the parents going to what
turns out to be a Presbyterian Church to visit to meet with
Pastor Ray to see if the teens can integrate with their youth
group. They're hoping that their kids

(48:35):
can have, like, a social outlet.And they keep using words that
I'm like, like the social, theirsocial network and their.
Fellowship. Fellowship, just these terms
that it's like, Oh my gosh, likey'all, it is.
What was it 2011, 2012 at the time it was just like, why are
we want it's like we're in Robyn's knickers.

(48:59):
It's like, you know, like hello,could we use some contemporary
language here? But whatever.
It's like, how about we just saylike we want them to have
friends and we want we want their friends to not be terrible
people. Like, I don't know, they they
have to use this language. That's part of the AUB and the
reasons that you can't film the services.
The Cult. The cult yes, I feel like

(49:20):
overall, so they're going into this meeting, but it's weird the
transition because it's like we don't we're not told about this
upfront. So it's like they're just
walking into a church and they're like, we're going to say
about finding some fellowship for our teenagers.
And I'm like, this feels weird. Like aren't the kids making
friends at school? Like aren't the kids just normal
kids? Like what's happening here?
Like, why are you othering them in this way of like, we moved

(49:42):
here and we need to make sure that they have a social outlet
And it's like, OK, well, I don'tknow.
It just felt weird to me. I don't know what maybe other
parents do this. They like go to churches and
find youth groups for their kids.
I don't know. It's news to me.
One, because they haven't found their own church since they've
gotten there and because I thinkthat their kids had a lot of

(50:08):
relationships with kids in theirchurch and maybe some of the
kids are struggling to make friends at school.
Some of them aren't right. Some of them are doing OK, but
some of them are. I think they're they're worried
about the influence of all the sinners in Sin City right now.
Those. Secular people.

(50:29):
Yes, terrible, terrible. I thought it was particularly
interesting that Pastor Ray, while sitting around this table,
said to the Browns, while we don't condemn you know, your
religion and your choices, it's not what we would choose.

(50:52):
Oh, he said. They don't condemn it.
Yeah, they don't condemn it. Oh oh.
Like interesting. They're not saying it's bad.
Right, like you do you OK. But it's not what we would
choose. Amen.
OK, excellent. Yes, yes, that's, that's what I
got. Yeah.
But also, isn't that just still saying kind of we don't like it
And it's it's this whole religion Ness that thinking

(51:16):
yours is the best fucking kills me.
Because that's basically they all speak against not doing
that, but theirs is the best. Like, I don't get it.
That's why none of it registers to me.
So, so it's fine. And yeah, we'll invite them in
for fellowship, but we aren't like you.
We are not like you. And we have to clarify that.
And then like Christine. I mean, they don't support the

(51:39):
polygamous lifestyle biblically.Like he makes that clear.
He says that that they don't support the lifestyle but that
they are open to receiving theirfamily.
Well, because like any good religion, we'll convert any
member we can. So give us the shot.
You know, like let's. Get you the offering plate and
then we'll see. Literally.
So those are just the things that have never made sense to

(52:03):
me. It doesn't make sense to me at
all. I can't wrap my brain around it.
They have like, just little bitsof conversation here and there.
And then Christine is like, I amsorry.
And I mean no disrespect to you,Pastor Ray.
Like this is not to you. Like, what are we doing?

(52:25):
Like this does not feel right. This is not OK.
What are we doing here? And then they all kind of have a
mini meltdown. Like what?
I mean, she refers to them as sharks in the ocean, which I
thought was interesting. Ocean versus sharks, like we
want them to go out into the ocean, but then they're sure.

(52:48):
Like I didn't understand the analogy at.
All I thought her analogy was that people like, let's say
people in this Presbyterian Church, like people that are not
part of their faith are sharks in the water like you are, we're
going to come for you because you are Sinner and you're not,
right. Which to be fair, even on this
show, I mean, they interviewed the neighbors for the block
party thing. And like their first things are

(53:08):
like, well, it's a sin and they're going to have to talk to
God about that. Like that is a judgement that
people have. I didn't know.
It did feel a little off to me, Like, I don't know that I'm 100%
correct in my analysis about theshark's bit from Christine,
because I was like, you're sitting in front of this pastor
saying that his congregation aresharks in the water because

(53:29):
you're polygamist. Like OK.
I don't think it landed the way she intended it to.
At all. Yeah.
The vibe was totally like keeping your mouth shut until
you just can't anymore. And then she's like, I don't
even know why we're doing this. Well, then Meri, Meri goes,
well, I don't mean to be a troublemaker, but like, we send
our kids to public school. Yeah.

(53:50):
What? What's so different about that
than this? Well, we can't reconcile any of
that right now. No, no, no.
Janelle suggests that they tablethe conversation.
Because it's a family matter. Now, my question to that was,
did you guys discuss this at allbefore going?

(54:11):
Like they seem to be on a lot ofdifferent pages now.
They do align a bit at some point, but like it just seems
like they're all kind of talkingabout it.
Like someone randomly brought itup and they decided let's go to
this church and do whatever. And it's like, was that it?
Like no one talked about this atall beforehand.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. It was confusing.
Maybe they didn't have the actual feelings until they

(54:32):
walked into that building. Maybe they were giving it a
shot. Maybe, you know, there was a
greater good thing that they were going for.
And this is outside of the box of what we would normally do.
But let's see what it means. Like, I think the intentions
were right. I think the communication was
poor and ultimately it was a completely wasted trip.

(54:56):
And this like, poor pastor is just like, well, trying to be
nice to you fucking weirdos and you're making me sound like I'm
a nut job so whatever. Good times.
Christine has a gift of making people feel comfortable.
You know, she did say, though, that she believes that Pastor
Ray is a good man. Oh yeah.

(55:17):
Doing his best to embrace God. Yeah, yeah.
And And even their family, Theirtheir family of things that.
We're trying to welcome you weirdos into our church, but
you're making it challenging. And in classic brown fashion,

(55:41):
we're going to have a transition, unprompted out of
nowhere, into Christine talking about how she promised Gwendolyn
a fun backyard. Because of course, with the
move, it makes sense as a parent, you're going to make
some, you know, some concession,some some promises.
You're going to do the things totry to make things better for
the kids. And they have a yard in this

(56:02):
rental house. Now it is a desert.
I mean, it's a Las Vegas, you know, ticky tacky neighborhood
backyard. So it's small and it's sand and
rocks or something. And surrounded by cinder block
walls. Yeah.
Which is totally common. It's common and I get that and
that. It's common.
It's actually a fairly nice space.

(56:23):
Like, you know, of course what we would consider a yard here is
very different. What they would consider a yard
in Las Vegas. It's decent.
It could be. So I mean if it was your eyes
yard. Oh yeah, it would look amazing.
Could not even. But it's.
Christy, make some choices. So one thing that I love and I

(56:44):
don't know if we're we're going to come back to it like if you
recognize this anywhere else, but they do these shots to truly
baby truly. Oh my God, baby, truly.
Like crawling on the ground, crawling in the dirt, crawling
in the sand, playing with like coffee cans, playing with crap
putting. Rocks in her mouth.
Rocks. Dust flying up her nose.

(57:05):
Yeah, the footage looked like girl, like stop just letting
your now I you know, you, you dohave to let your kids do
whatever, especially when you'reat a certain number.
You probably are just like whatever.
And I didn't grow up around in the desert.
It just it's not like in a grassy backyard.
It's all dirty to me. All I'm picturing is her hands
and sand and dirt and then her hands and her mouth and then

(57:27):
rocks and her mouth and her noseand her ears and all the things.
Because I don't know if you've ever, you haven't, but I have
had to take a child to an ER because he shoved a rock in his
ear and have that removed. Like, that's not fun.
You don't love to do that. I also do recognize that, like,
yeah, letting babies be out and crawl and play in their

(57:47):
environment is important. This was day one.
Well, we don't know what day it was of them being in that house,
but they are getting ready for this party that they're going to
have and doing this, you know, one day backyard renovation
before we've got the party scheduled, you know, good
planning. Brown family.
And I do believe she just had somuch going on that she had to

(58:11):
do. And like there was a mission and
baby was safe and baby was fine and it was in her home
surrounded by her family. That was fine.
But dude, I would not have been able to watch my baby crawl
around in any of that. I would have been terrified in
so many fashions, Even just her walking around and like,
stumbling in the rocks and like,scraping herself for something

(58:33):
like yeah, I would have been more helicoptery at that point
for sure. Yeah, it definitely stood out to
me. Who not a parent, right?
Going like, I don't know if justlike maggot with limbs, you
know, the little human should belike rolling around in the what
could be a wasteland, but instead it's your backyard.
Like I don't even know. But it's very exciting because

(58:55):
Christine has made these promises to Gwendolyn about a
backyard retreat and it's going to be so fun and amazing.
So she bought herself an above ground pool, which is so great a
love, a good Intex or whatever that company name is beautiful.
The problem is what size pool did she order honey?

(59:16):
Well, you know, the problem is Christine did what I do.
I love that you're not even giving me the measurement.
You're like, Nope, I'm going to go into Christine does what I
do. She measured with her eyes,
because surely it would fit. She measured with her heart.
No, with her eyes. Yeah, Looks, looks good.

(59:36):
Looks like it'll fit. Yeah, I think that's exactly
right. Maybe even.
Maybe even. Pool will fit here.
Maybe even paste it out with herfeet, I don't know.
Yeah, she got 24 of her feet in there, so must work.
To answer your question, the size of the pool is 18 feet in
diameter. Yes, a legal adult of a pool.
Yep. OK.

(59:58):
And when Kody shows up with a tape measure to measure from the
back patio to this. Property wall.
The beautiful cinder block wall.How many feet are there?
Well, as it turns out, Chris, there are 17.
Feet 17, which is smaller than the pool.
Right. Yeah.

(01:00:19):
Now they do make it work. That's, you know, it's very,
it's, it's one of those how, what are you gonna do moments
like, yeah, maybe don't buy a pool because that pool was not
like $20. It was a purchase.
Listen, we'll talk about the pool.
Yeah, well, yeah, it's still no matter how shitty that pool was,
it was not cheap and that was ridiculous.

(01:00:40):
But she's just so excited because there's a family party
tomorrow here in my backyard. I just had a groundbreaking
thought and I don't know, are wegetting came out of nowhere?
Are we what? Are we getting a pool?
Oh well, we maybe. So to do this backyard Renault,

(01:01:03):
there's some cash involved. We got a dump truck to deliver
some rock. We have some paver stones.
We have some turf. We have some lumber.
We have this pool. Lumber and lattice.
Lattice. Yes, we.
Do and that Yeah, beautiful pool.

(01:01:24):
So there's some cash spent here now.
I'd be hard pressed to say it's under a grand.
I feel like even the dump truck rock delivery alone is hundreds
of dollars. Right.
Yeah, yeah. So I feel like we're looking at
and and first of all, a totally Amen.

(01:01:46):
Do it. Get that backyard you want,
right. But is Janelle just rolling
around like, you know, she seemed happy with it, right?
They're finite resources. Wait, we didn't get that vibe
from her throughout this progress.
Like she processed she was, she was assisting and supporting.
But I just thought about the cat.

(01:02:06):
You know, it's interesting when people's narratives are they
have no money and they're broke,but then they're buying pools, a
cheap pool, but block Astroturf,kid home, blah blah blah.
It also just came to me how it happened Christine when she got
this rental fetch your ass was like if you bitches get pools, I

(01:02:26):
get money to buy a pool. Yeah, like and she did reference
so she was hoping her backyard would be like the younger kid
hang out zone and that Janelle and Meri both have pools at at
their rentals. So she so this was all worked
out in advance, surely, but I would I just had the dollar
amount flash in my eyes and I was like.
Well I mean it's giving me HouseHunters International, right?

(01:02:49):
Like I'm a stay at home mom who burns toast in the oven and my
budget is $3000 for a bub grump pool.
Like what? I feel like we have to recap our
favorite House Hunters moment ever.
The birds. The birds.
The birds. We are we are looking at this
beautiful home within budget checks all of the boxes that.

(01:03:11):
We need mature trees. Mature tree trees.
You know what that means? Birds.
This bitch hated birds. Who hates birds?
Yeah, now this was a while ago. 15 years ago, maybe.
Batman, Maybe. Oh my God, we were watching them
at the same time. Christine was putting in her

(01:03:31):
above ground pool while we were watching HDTV, laughing at this
nut job who was like, this meansthere will be birds.
And it's like, OK, yeah. Like, no one likes to hear birds
chirping when the sun's coming up.
If you've like, been 20, you stayed up really late.
The sun's coming up and it's like torture, torture, torture.

(01:03:53):
But like average everyday American, it's not like I don't
want birds around my house. Like it's just weird, very
strange. I do love that it.
Was good. It's a.
You'll never forget that. Yeah.
So they're putting down these what are the bigger blocks,
patio paver kind of things, you know, and sand and. 12 by 12
paver stones. Yes, yes, yeah.

(01:04:14):
They have these, this lumber where they're going to assemble
some sort of home, some sort of structure like a kids little
Playhouse thing outside. And it's great because there's
this moment that they show before the commercial break and
then cut again where Hunter has a piece of lumber on his
shoulder and he turns around andit whacks Meri in the neck from
the backside. Whales are in the back head with

(01:04:36):
A2 by. Four and it was so weird getting
injured when you or getting whatever the situation when
you're not you're not paying attention and it comes out of
nowhere. It probably was actually better
if her body was like not tense, correct?
But it was definitely awkward. And he totally had that moment
of like, Oh my God, I'm so like,are you OK?
Because like, I will apologize. But like this was like, ah, it

(01:04:59):
was. Misunderstanding.
Yeah, luckily it was really quick because Meri could have
easily been like, Oh my God. I feel like it probably hurt
more than she let. I think so too.
I think that's that's something Meri rocks.
I think it was because she didn't want to make the kid feel
guilty, you know, like, but I think that.
Fucking hurt. I bet it really hurts I.

(01:05:19):
Think that's all good? I agree.
Now post this moment of the two by four in the head.
Yeah, I don't even remember whatthey were panning and looking
at, but Jesus Christ, the cameramovement in this episode.

(01:05:39):
Was it shaky? It was so fast it made me dizzy.
Like they were panning the wholeneighborhood and it was like
whoosh and it was like blurry and my eyes couldn't catch up.
Like it was like it was weird. And then that was something like
outside on the street. But then they even did a moment

(01:06:01):
in the backyard where they were panning from, like the the
Playhouse across the stones and the pool and what?
And it was just all so fast. And I was like, can you fucking
slow down? Like this is hurting my head.
Yeah, I did not care for it. And that's really unfortunate
because even in post they could have just slowed it down to like

(01:06:21):
90% or something like just slowed down a little bit.
And I don't always notice that, but this was a moment that I was
like, and I don't think it was my buzz, ladies and gentlemen,
I'm quite sure it was just actually the camera, but.
Very sober. I think so.
I think so too. So it hurt my brain.
Yeah. Anyway, thanks TLC.
Thanks, TLC Puddle Monkey. Thank you, Puddle monkey.

(01:06:43):
And then we have a cut to cut to.
Couldn't tell you where, but theparents are discussing Pastor
Ray's meeting. The meeting with Pastor Ray.
I actually think they're in Christine's living room, if I
remember correctly. I don't know why I said I didn't
know where they were. Janelle suggests they ask some
of the older kids about their perspective now.
Mind blowing. Oh, maybe we should ask the

(01:07:04):
teenagers that they're interested in having another
social outlet. Before we like try to force them
to go to a new church and meet new people without their buy in.
And it's like, yeah, sometimes as parents you just do think you
make things happen. It doesn't matter what the
opinion of your children are, you make it.
Happen. Yeah, there are those times,
certainly. But then there are other times
where it's like well once again I I feel like was this even

(01:07:27):
discussed before they went to the church in the 1st place?
Because how did it not come up? Like why aren't we asking the
children? It's just so weird to me.
It's very, it feels like very dogmatic and religious parenting
in the sense like we're just doing this thing.
It's very siloed. But I I would agree that there
are many, many times as a parentthat you may not consider asking

(01:07:56):
for your child's opinion now. Now this to me seems like when
you could OK, this to me seems like one that you feel it out.
But if they're depending on the situation, yes, certainly there
are times that you make that decision and don't don't give
anybody else a say in the match.Of course, of course, this is
who you will be friends with andthis is where you'll spend your
time. Like, OK, it's a bit much, but

(01:08:17):
whatever. So luckily, the next day, well,
I don't know if it's the next day, but at some point in time,
they all meet back at Christine's and Christine's
living room at the rental that has the computer station behind.
I was very distracted by all themovies and the bookshelves.
It was very funny how it reminded me of, at the time,

(01:08:37):
like, you would have bookshelvesfull of movies and, like, the
family PC and the oak, the yellow oak furniture that houses
it all, like. OK, yeah, it was a different
time. And they do ask the kids, you
know. So ultimately, when Janelle
suggested this, I thought she was going.
I thought she meant a couple kids.

(01:08:59):
But then all of a sudden, it's like everyone older than a
certain age was in the living room.
It was like they couldn't even all sit on the couches.
I think there was more kids there than I expected, but then
I was also trying to figure out how many teenagers there are and
I guess there's maybe like 6 of them.
Yeah, there was. Yeah.
Well, that's funny because you're also putting them with
five adults. So at that point, you're looking
at 11 people. Totally makes sense.

(01:09:21):
It just seemed to me, I thought it was going to be a little more
like, we're going to ask a couple of the kids, and then all
of a sudden it was like half of a family, half of their family.
And then, you know, they asked, like, are you meeting friends at
school? Do they have similar moral
standards? And they're, which is it is kind
of funny because, yeah, like you're what are their kids going
to say? Oh, we're meeting no one.
But the ones we are meeting haveterrible moral standards.

(01:09:42):
I mean, you know, of course they're like, yeah, we're
meeting people and they seem to have good moral standards.
I mean, I don't know, It seemed like they were just like, yeah,
like, whatever. I don't think any of the kids
were coming across like, I'm desperate for a social outlet.
Like no one was saying that. Well, I thought it was
interesting when it was just theparents on the couch before the
kids were invited to join. OK, They all had different I so

(01:10:08):
so this is what's funny. It's it it wasn't necessarily
even A1 common goal of the parents at the beginning, right?
So they're trying to figure thisout and now letting six other
opinions come in. OK, But Janelle, Janelle truly
believed that the type of faith that they were looking at for

(01:10:28):
this fellowship wasn't important.
She just wanted it to be some level of faith involved.
But it didn't have to be Mormon.It didn't have to be whatever.
Like she was open to this other option, right?
Meri was very concerned about who would accept them and that
we didn't want to put the children in a place where they

(01:10:49):
then would wind up not being accepted because of their which
duh, like. Like, let's force you to go to a
place where you're ostracized. Duh.
Yeah, so or or converted, you know, like whatever.
I mean, hello. So Kody then not giving him

(01:11:10):
credit, but said he doesn't wantto put the kids in that
position. OK, so they're not.
And none of them are on the samepage.
And Janelle makes some comment about how in a democracy, I'm
outvoted anyway. So I guess the discussion's
over. OK.
And this is all before they invite the kids in.
Kody says. OK, OK, you're making me rethink

(01:11:34):
my stance. Yeah, like he had said a
statement that was coming acrossto finalized or, you know,
there's like a finality or something.
And he was like, OK, I do realize that that sounded a
little too like decisions made all.
Right. I'll back up.
I'll back my train up. Let's.
And that's when they invited thekids in.
So this, they were going throughthis.

(01:11:55):
We don't even know what our goalis to gather as the parents.
And now we're trying to present something to the children to get
their thoughts. Feelings and opinions.
So of course it's going to go really well.
Bizarre. There's going to be a lot of
great decisions made. Bizarre.
Yes, they do question the friends that they're making and
their moral standards and valuesand blah blah blah.

(01:12:21):
I think really the only questions that the kids there
was something where they. The kids did ask why they
wouldn't be looking at an LDS ora Mormon church because that's
more closely aligned to their faith.
Right, right. And Kody was like, you know
what? We're open minded.

(01:12:41):
We're blah, blah, blah, like trying to justify that.
That's OK. And you know, again, we've
discussed in past seasons how hekind of is open minded to an
extent about other things, right?
And I also kind of feel like maybe there's a little bit of a,

(01:13:02):
we know the Mormons don't like us.
We know that they are not into what we're doing.
And so at least this other groupisn't going to necessarily have
such a hot gun out the gate or something like hot gun out the
gate. They're not going to be, you
know, having the dogs play with the cats or whatever.
Meri says when the cats are awaythe dogs play like there's they
are going to care less about polygamy than Mormons.

(01:13:27):
From their perspective I would Iwould assume.
But is there literally not a Church of their faith there?
Well no, I mean the AUB only haslike thousands of members and
that's why they always have to go state to state to like hang
out with each other and do whatever like.
So they know it's kind of like alost.
This is a lost. There's no because they didn't

(01:13:48):
never get. Another one there's.
No one in their faith in Las Vegas.
They didn't get a. Church like that, even in
Flagstaff when they moved there.OK, OK, OK, OK.
Putting those pieces together now.
Sorry. I think I should have realized
that. But I mean that I didn't because
it's a small sub sect. So while their religion is
probably most closely aligned with Mormonism as far as the

(01:14:08):
practices and the policies and the whatever, but because they
have been so like stricken out because of polygamy, you know,
then why not go over here? Yep, Yep.
Yep, that's my assumption. They don't say that, but that's
the vibe I get. No, I think you're right.
I think you're right. So there's a moment where
Mckelty and Logan are like, you know what?

(01:14:30):
I'm OK trying a new religion. There's nothing wrong with that.
Like, why would it be bad if we went to a different church?
Like, we can totally do that. Like, no big deal.
No big deal. And apparently, yes, there were
some strong feelings from one ofthe wives.
Oh, would that be Robyn? Oh, weird.
Oh yeah, Robyn, the one who's been around forever and is the

(01:14:51):
moral compass of the family. Correct.
Yeah. And so Robyn talks about how the
kids can pick their religion when they're adults, like, what
they feel like and kind of like some broad statements while the
children are still present. I do, you know, Maddie has a
couple of moments in this interaction where I feel like
they're trying to make her look a little antagonistic or
something. Like, she's a little like,

(01:15:13):
whatever. But once again, she's a teenager
who just moved and like, whatever.
And then your parents are like, do you want to go to another
church to make friends? Like I would be sitting there
slouched on a couch being like what?
Like I would be in the same, butI'd be like, what are you even
talking about? And Maddie seems like she just
doesn't care. And like, I feel like that's
completely understandable. At one point Maddie goes, are we

(01:15:35):
done? And Kody snapped and went we're
done. And like stared at her and I
love it. The snap.
I don't mean like he, you know, oh, he's the diva.
He snapped. Like he snapped, we're done.
And it was totally one of those dad moments of like, OK, well,
if you're in enough trouble, that's scary.
If you're not really in trouble,it's like, okay, douchebag.

(01:15:56):
But yeah, that that was that. Yeah, she was making it clear
that religion was not important to her.
Yeah, eventually the kids are gone.
The kids leave. Sorry.
The reason now he's laughing is because I just stood my hands up
over my eyes like I was searching into the distance for
the kids for Columbus they just left look for.

(01:16:17):
The Americas that he's going to steal.
Where are those polygamous children?
Oh God. That's bad.
Stricken from the record, it's. Allegedly.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
Where are those children? Yeah.
Oh. Stop.
No, stop, Chris. Stop.
You're making it worse. Literally making it so much

(01:16:37):
worse. Jamona.
Michael Jackson over here. So the kids leave and every and
all the parents have finally come to the decision.
No, just kidding. No, no, no.
We're going to have to give Robyn a moment.
We're we're going to have to give Robyn a moment, a chance to

(01:16:58):
have an emotional expression where she shows us how deep she
is and how much she knows and blah, blah, blah.
Take it away, girl. Why am I getting stuck with all
the Robyn moments now? I do them.
Well, it's OK, I got it. I got it.
OK, so. You know I can't give Robyn

(01:17:19):
justice. You did try.
So here's the thing. Sabin gets real upset.
Cry bras. And she cry Bras.
Jesus, I didn't make that up. That's from the Internet, but
cry bras. But it's great.
I haven't heard it before. OK, so she's fairly upset that

(01:17:41):
they're not all on the same pageabout this because she kind of
cannot believe that Meri and Janelle are considering allowing
their children to go to a different a Church of a
different faith. Even now, what I think is funny
about this is Robyn paints this in her breakdown that these

(01:18:07):
children joking to make these choices until their frontal
lungs are developed. So what's really funny about
that is that these kids aren't the ones facilitating this.
Right these. Parents, yeah, are the ones
facilitating. None of the kids that we know of

(01:18:29):
brought this up or came to them or said anything like that.
So why Robyn has turned this into all of their children are
going to choose different religions if they allow them to
experience them? Shock ball?
What the fuck? And based on pastor raised
meeting, it was pretty vanilla Christian Church.

(01:18:50):
Like it's it was probably prettyboring.
Like let's be. Conflict was super.
Like they're being, it's not like it's MTV in 1983.
Like give me a break. MTV in 1983, you know.
So. She so she's trying to like
paint it as that all of the children are trying to leave the
religion, which is not the case clearly.

(01:19:12):
So just previously we discussed that they don't have an actual
church opportunity in that area for their faith.
So I think that the goals of theother parents are pretty fucking
clear here what they're looking for.
Certainly none of them are on the same page, but like, why she
turned it around and that that made no sense to me.

(01:19:33):
Her reaction made no. Sense quite a bridge to cross
for we would like teenagers thathave what we consider to be good
values to hang out with our kidsto they're going to change
religions and on it's like OK really.
And so you're saying that they, until their frontal lobe is
developed, when they are adults,that's when they get to start

(01:19:54):
making choices. Now I believe in males, at least
that's 26 years old. Yeah, it's well.
Under the 20s. So you do not get to start
making your own choices. Yeah, until you're 26 years old.
That's not how life works, honey.
Yeah. Especially in their faith.
You'd be married for 10 years. Like, at least doesn't make

(01:20:15):
sense. Make it make sense, Robyn.
It didn't work for me. It didn't work for me.
Again, I think it's. Projection.
I think it's projection like we don't let those kids make
choices. These are the they will lose
their purity to. I heard some rumors earlier.
To a man they stole from their sister.
Yeah, yeah. Allegedly.

(01:20:37):
Allegedly. Allegedly.
Yeah. Robyn's Much Ado about nothing,
as usual. Like, it's just like, really,
this is what you're breaking down about?
She does need a job. Oh, she needs a job.
She needs more hobbies. She needs something to do.
She better. Well, hopefully she's now she
has a house to decorate. Oh.
God. OK.

(01:20:58):
Well, yeah, yeah. So quick little recap, Meri and
Janelle are simply looking for asocial opportunity for their
children. Yep, Robyn, Kody and Christine
think it's a huge dealt to live this faith.
Janelle says we all have different opinions.

(01:21:21):
Yeah. And she wants to keep the peace.
A peacemaker. So.
A peacemaker with a rainmaker. So now they've decided that
they're going to let this shit go for a second, but they really
need to understand the friends that their children are making.
Yeah. So they have a new plan.

(01:21:43):
Yeah, Janelle suggests that theyhost the kids friends over at
their home and to see if they are in fact good people.
Of moral standing. Of moral standing.
Yeah, of moral standing. This, You know, it's also so
funny because we're talking about teenagers.
Like, you know the shows that our friends put on for our

(01:22:05):
fucking parents in high school, right?
It's. Ridiculous.
These raunchy bitches were so put together in front of my
parents and likewise me the same.
Me the same though, right? Like we had.
I was raised right. I know how to put on a good show
for a parent. They could never, but my parents
could never believe the things that I did as a teenager once I

(01:22:28):
confessed in my later years, right?
They're like, we had no idea. I'm like, duh, because you're
stupid. No, naive.
But like as a parent, like now I'm approaching those years and
I'm going to be like, just like my mother thought.
My mother thought I will never be as dumb as my parents were.
Guess what? Guess what happened?
She still didn't know what was going on.

(01:22:49):
I'm not going to eat. Are you going to say out loud
right now that you are as dumb as your parents were?
I'm exactly my mother, so yeah, I feel like.
Oh, she said yeah, she said yeah, she said yes, that's an
affirmative. I think we as parents think we
know what's going on, but we have no fucking clue all day of
the day. This I I am not a parent but to

(01:23:10):
me this kind of just feels like a nothing burger overall. 100
What are you? Even talking about like, OK,
understandable, some of your kids are having a hard time
adjusting to the move. That doesn't mean that you need
to drag your kids, some of whom are like, Logan is just shy of
an adult. I mean, he's literally like a
junior or senior in high school.Why are you being like, do you

(01:23:32):
want to go to a church group to meet people?
Like it's just like this is muchto do about nothing like he'll.
Probably just do that on his ownif he wants to when he's not
caring for the rest of your children.
Right when he's so very true, very true, very true.
Well, he's not playing dad to your other children.
Ah. Well, Daddy's.
Away. Well, Dad's doing whatever he's

(01:23:52):
doing with Robyn. Yeah.
Like, it just feels like kids meet people and they do things
and it is what it is. And yeah, you can get gut
checks, you can check out your kids friends.
Of course you're going to want to do that stuff.
But like this all seems very orchestrated unnecessarily.
You cannot follow them 24/7 in the world and protect them from

(01:24:13):
people with bad morals and values.
Also those things are super subjective.
Yeah, a lot of people think thatyour religion has no morals and.
Values. Yeah, that you're the problem.
Yeah, because you're fucking weird.
Yeah, yeah. And some other people's parents

(01:24:34):
would probably be like, why are you hanging out with those kids?
Which. Literally.
Literally how funny is that? How funny is that?
That other perspective, The other parents that are like you
think I'm going to let you go toa man's home of one of his wives
and he has for absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
I love that parallel. I love that so much.

(01:24:56):
That's great. So now, Oh my gosh, it's the day
of the big party. Let's clarify just just the day
of the big party is 24 hours after we've started this
backyard renovation. That's right.
Renovation is Saturday, party isSunday kind of thing.

(01:25:16):
Like we're going to do the wholebackyard in one day.
The whole thing. And then have a party the next
day. Because.
Why not have set up something challenging to do for no reason?
That's what this family really likes to do.
Now as they are getting ready orshouldn't say getting ready for
the party trying to finish the backyard renovation.

(01:25:40):
Yeah. OK, we haven't even started with
the streamers and plastic tablecloths yet.
Oh no. So those.
Balloons have not been blown. Truly is rolling around in the
rocks and dust and dirt. They're literally like tamping
rocks behind her as she crawls. So like dust is flying over her
bald head. It looks like a scene from a

(01:26:03):
movie when they're trying to establish a parent as neglectful
and not taking care of their child and it's like Nope, it's
just Christine's kid. Nope, they're just tramping shit
right around her. Also like sitting on those rocks
and crawling on those rugs with your baby.
Anyway, I know this is what we were referencing.
I know there was a funny moment with Christine and Power Tools.

(01:26:28):
Oh yeah, the safety on the drillor the saw handsaw?
Skill saw, skill saw and so she's holding it and like they
have a board a 2 by 4 like readyfor her to cut or something.
And Kody is telling her there's like a safety and so she she,
you know, removes the safety andthen pulls the trigger and she

(01:26:50):
it starts to go and she just jumps back.
They didn't show her cut the board.
We just saw the jump. Scare No, we definitely didn't
see her cutting any boards with any saws.
They put in this cute little green turf.
I liked that. That's great for truly to
sneeze. I wish they had more of it.
What's funny about the Turf, theAstroturf is that it was like

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the last thing to make an appearance in a sense, and
understandably so if you're doing this, you know, multi
$1,000,000 backyard renovation project.
But like, it literally was like a 10 by 1012 by 12 Astroturf
thing. Like you couldn't have laid that
out for the bait like. Choices.
We have choices. Well, it would have gotten super

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dirty in that dust. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So they, you know, they added the the color with the grass,
the fake grass, which is great. I didn't hate it it I did not
hate that addition. I think that made it actually.
I think that stupid astroturf. Oh yeah.
Made the yard actually looked decent.

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Well, it was, yeah. Yeah, it did improve.
Things it. Improved things, yeah.
So the parents and the older kids are going to surprise the
younger kids with this, you know, Backyard reveal.
Christine's Place is the place for the young ones with the
pool. And it's so fun and it's so hip
and it's so fresh. HGTV Special and Christine says

(01:28:15):
the colors are stunning. Oh.
My God. Now mind you the only color to
speak of is this astroturf and the blue of the lining of this
above ground pool. But everything else is like tan,
beige, dust, desert color. So for her to be talking about

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the colors are stunning. I think we both laughed out loud
because it was like, what are you even talking about?
Well, yeah, there was. There was no color.
There was very little color. There were some silk flowers
stuck into the ground by the plates.
I think there was like 3 like that was the color so.
Yeah, the kids Playhouse, which is literally lumber colored like

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it is they it's wood. It's pieces of wood with
lattice. That's wood.
Now I've made a shittier Playhouse for my kids, so I'm.
Not judging the Playhouse, I'm judging the notion that it's
like the color. Oh, it's just like a magical
it's no, this is not what it was.
It was not. It looked like someone took it
looked like if you and I took three hours and did a bullshit

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job, that's what that yard looked like.
But do you know what it does look like?
It looks like a yard that I willgive two shits if children
destroy it and that is also OK. Like this is going to be a yard
for them to do all their shit in.
And it's not about me keeping itpretty or whatever.
It's literally about child entertainment.

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The little terrors. And yes, and that that I think
is good. I again, we would do something
totally different and then kids would be out there making it a
fucking disaster and we would belike, you need to go now.
I just can't wait to randomly turn to you sometime when we're
in a barren wasteland of a space.

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And I'll say to you, the colors are stunning because it's like,
girl, you need your vision checked.
Ladies and gentlemen, he's actually going to do this to me,
though, like it could be within the coming weeks, it could be 5
or 10 years down the road, but he is going to say this to me
and I'm going to harken back to this exact moment.
Yeah. You're going to Chris.

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You were right all along. God, I knew it the whole time.
The colors are stunning. I'd like to lock you in a closet
There's no light in. It's all dark.
The colors are stunning. Water board me.
Oh my God, Yikes. Yikes, Yikes Yikes is also the

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status of this pool. It is.
Being filled up by a. Hose.
And it is a sloppy jalopy, a floppy of a pool.
I don't even know what to call it.
OK, My favorite part about this is that they are doing a little
recap of where they're at in their Renault, and Christine is
saying, Yep, it's about 2 1/2 hours to the party.
So we're starting to get the balloons out and the this and

(01:31:10):
the this and the this. And, you know, everything's
pretty much done except the pool.
And then they pan to the pool. Yeah.
Could you give a description of the?
Pool. Well, I don't.
I think I just said like floppy,flappy, flappy, slappy and
Majaki. It was like I was sitting there.
How tall do you think it's supposed to get is my question.
Oh yeah, my assumption is 2 1/2 or three feet.

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It's it's it's not like a hard sided above ground pool.
It's just one of the ringed ones.
So there's something that goes up with it when it feel fills,
when it fills, it doesn't it doesn't feel good to be filled
like that or it feels real good to be filled like that.
So this pool is just, there's like a millimeter of water in

(01:31:53):
it, the hose is in it, and it looks like it's just sitting
there like an organ taken out ofa surgery.
And you guys like an organ? Yeah, like they take out the
like, they're like, here's the liver and they set it on the
thing and it's like. That's a good analogy.
It looked like a floppy organ. I don't know.
Good analogy. No, I see it.

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I can see it. I can see it.
So it's 2 1/2 hours to the party.
They say the pool isn't quite ready nor is it going to be
ready. We do get to the party.
I want to see the pool at the end.
It is looking sad. It is looking like it's not
going to come to even when it's full.
I can't picture what it's supposed to look like nor that

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it's going to be level and or straight and or anything working
well. Like I just am not seeing the
structural integrity as this fills with water even after
several hours to believe believethat this is going to function
for them in any long term capacity.

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And as you referenced earlier, Idon't think it was inexpensive,
so. It is a little bit curious to
see if we see this pool in the future.
I know right? It probably lasts the party and
then is done. Because even the notion of it
not fitting in the space. So like, at some point in time
it's going to have a problem with being dented by a call,

(01:33:21):
yeah. Like it must hangover the patio.
Got to be on the patio in some way.
It's going to have issues. I don't think we got all the
information we needed yet about the pool and we are waiting.
That we needed. Yeah.
It was a failure. We're giving it an F It was a
failure but luckily there was water in a surface where some
kids could touch it and or be init, so that's lovely.

(01:33:44):
I just have unanswered questions.
It's my only point is I have unanswered questions and I am
predicting that I won't get the answers truthfully.
Yes, but I think. It's a good prediction.
Maybe it happens I. Think that seems accurate?
All right, I'll let it go for now.
So cut to the teenage Browns arehosting a party at Janelle's

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pool. Man, it's so cool.
It's so red. Welcome to the city.
Welcome. Let's make some friends.
Well, that was something. Yeah.
I love Janelle's pool. I want Janelle's pool.
I don't know why Janelle doesn'thave plants or, oh that's right,
finite resources. Right.

(01:34:28):
Also, I think you're giving Janelle too much credit.
Like she's going to put plants around her pool.
I mean, she does tend to she like she says she has a green
thumb, but girl. But like I feel like if they had
extra dollars Janelle would havesome raised garden beds on the
edge of her pool and maybe she gets some at some point in some

(01:34:49):
time. I don't know.
Maybe that doesn't happen until Flagstaff in her non existent
half yard, I don't know. But.
Amen. I mean, what it Yes, literally.
Like if you have a desert home and there's a pool, oftentimes
you'd at least have one or two palms and a pot or something.
There was like nothing. It was literally nothing.

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But that's fine because the teenagers are there to have fun.
They're going to have fun with each other.
They don't care about the plants.
They don't care about the landscaping.
They're there to have a good time.
A harem, a harem of teenage girls hanging around Logan
Logan's in the pool and in the hot tub with all these teenage
girls. Where are his male friends that

(01:35:31):
comes up? Where are they?
One shows up at the end. Yeah, there's at least two.
I didn't see 2. They did show up.
Now here's another Catch 22. OK.
So Janelle doesn't have plants? No.
But Janelle is grilling. She this is a moment, she is,
she has an apron on. She has kebabs on a big ass girl

(01:35:55):
like a nice grill. Store bought pre made kebabs.
Yeah, UU those look like finite resource kebabs.
This is. It.
It looks like she sat in the kitchen, you know she has
nothing to do and she's just so lost and shit but she can't
assemble some kebabs to save some money.

(01:36:15):
Got to buy the store bought ones.
It just made me chuckle. I have bought a store bought
kebab 22 times in my life and I will again and absolutely but it
just made me. Chuckle.
Yeah. Oh, there was a pretty penny
spent on those kebabs. Yeah, that was not cheap.
Yeah, you know that meat wasn't like dog food and carrots.

(01:36:38):
But she values her time. What do you mean she values her
time? I that sounded like a bit too
way to say it, but I feel the same way.
Though I pay for convenience, I think that my time is valuable
and so not necessarily like a dollar value value but like I
only have so many minutes in my day and there are things I will

(01:36:59):
do. I think she values her time and
and cutting up chicken and Peppers to put on a skewer is
not how she will use her time. She's got to use those finite
resources instead. Well, maybe they were about to
go bad and she got a steal of a deal.
Kody is a bit uncomfortable because it is a Coed pool party

(01:37:22):
and he was on the edge of whether that was acceptable or
not. And it's like, Oh my God, how
many parents and adults do you need to have around a pool of
teenagers? Are they giving each other
blowjobs and eating each other out in front of you Like what is
happening? I just, I just don't understand
because literally when they showthe footage, it's literally kids

(01:37:44):
being like we're hanging out at the pool.
But this is the difference. This is the difference.
Their son was surrounded by a harem of women.
Logan, the Lady Killer. What didn't happen, other than
the one friend that showed up later, yeah, was that his
daughters had any interaction with other males.

(01:38:08):
Coming in and. He was worried about that.
Yeah, that makes sense. He's not worried about his sons.
Yeah. Towards other women, but he is
worried about other women or other men coming in and talking
to his daughters. Yeah, yeah.
So it was totally boring and nothing crazy happened.
And that's. All Yeah.
I mean, it was literally like the lamest teenage party I've
ever seen. But Kody was very concerned.

(01:38:31):
Hunter's up in his room. And then goes to.
Isolating, Janelle went to checkin on him and he was gone.
He had gone to Christine's. You know, it's nice.
Janelle says that it's supportive of Christine to be
helping and that she feels like anything that Christine would
say or any direction she would give any pointers, any

(01:38:52):
consoling, any keep the chin up buddy or whatever is in the same
vein. Like, she would feel very
comfortable with Christine saying and doing anything with
Hunter in this moment because he's probably, you know,
depressed and upset and whatever.
And like, Oh my gosh, could you imagine being at a house where
there's like, a bunch of teenagers partying at the pool

(01:39:14):
and you're just up in your room being like, are you fucking
kidding? Like it's actually great that he
has another place to go to. It is really great.
And the other piece about like, just to trail on to what you
were saying there before, you know, children with their own
parents. And I know that Christine as a

(01:39:35):
second parent to him, you know, of sorts, but it's not his mom.
And kids push back a lot more ontheir own parents.
But if they have this other adult parent figure that they
can go to that he's not going totreat her the same way as he
treats his own mom. And he might let some of those

(01:39:57):
words come in a little bit differently.
At the very least, he loves truly.
And as Christine said, truly is really good therapy for Hunter,
right, like almost like therapy to him or something like, and I
thought that was great. And I think it gives yes, it
gives him another safe space to go to without having to hear the

(01:40:20):
worry and frustration and challenges from mom and Kody and
whatever else. But also know that Christine
isn't going to take a side against what they are.
She's she's going to so Shim towards the same things that
they want, but maybe it'll be received better.
Yeah. And you know, like when you're a
teenager and you kind of, it's like, I don't need to hear this

(01:40:40):
anymore kind of thing, like, youknow, when your parents have the
best of intentions and whatever.But it's like I just even one
day break from hearing about this would probably change my
perception. You are just browbeating me with
it so. And as Robyn pointed out, their
frontal lobes have not developedyet and so they don't fully know

(01:41:03):
how to process their emotions and handle these situations.
Now that is accurate. Well, Robyn's frontal lobes have
permanent damage, doesn't matterhow she's.
Not the one to educate us on, yeah.
Robyn's frontal lobes are in theback of the bus like she doesn't
know what the hell is going on. And you know, Hunter, it's great
to hear to hear Christine talking about this relationship

(01:41:26):
with truly this kind of fun thing that they have.
And it is it's cool. It's a little foreshadowing for
a later in the series how Hunterhas almost like an enthusiasm
and in a connection with the young UNS, like babies and
infants and toddlers. He's always very like into them
and like it's really cute and sofun to see, especially a young
man being like enthusiastic and having fun with toddlers than

(01:41:52):
young ones. What is his age right now, do
you think? Oh God I my assumption was that
he was like freshman like 9th grade but maybe.
Yeah. So maybe like.
Yeah, 9th, 9th grade. 1314 maybeapproaching 15.
Yeah, maybe he's 1415. Yeah.
And the others, I mean, there's some that are close in age to

(01:42:15):
him, right? But there's several that are a
little bit. Older, I mean like Leon has
their perm, Leon has their permit, and Logan's probably
driving, you know? So I just maybe there's not as
much of a gap, but. Maybe he's younger, maybe he's
like 13. He might be.
Young So this is what I'm thinking and I feel like maybe
he is in that awkward. I'm not the oldest kid, like I

(01:42:40):
don't fit in that bucket, but I'm also not the youngest kids
because as you know, with like an 8 or 9 or 10 year old versus
a 13 year old, that's a big difference.
And a 13 year old versus A-15 orA16 or a 17 year old, that's a
big difference. And so I just wonder if he's in
this and I could be totally wrong.

(01:43:01):
I have no idea. Guys, if you know, please tell
us, that'd be great. But I'm just curious because I
think that creates, I know, likein my own family, we were not
the same age as the oldest cousins, but not the same age as
the youngest cousin. So I'm equating this to a cousin
relationship. But I just felt like we couldn't
ever find our place with some ofthese groups because the age

(01:43:23):
difference was just enough to make us completely unrelatable
to anybody else, you know? And I wonder if that's part of
his struggle. Yeah, I think so.
I think so. That totally makes sense.
And yeah, it's a little hard sometimes with the kids for the
age bed because it's not like every time that the kids come
in, they're like, this is their age and this is whatever.

(01:43:44):
Like they don't, you know, once again, this is a reality show
where they give us three days tothe move or something, which
isn't even accurate. And it's what was even the point
of it? So it'd be nice if maybe they
had their age at their name, butwhatever.
Can we go back for a second? I wanted to discuss the timeline
of Robyn's pregnancy. OK.
Now when she talks to Meri, she says she's 6 1/2 weeks pregnant

(01:44:12):
and then Kody announces in 7 1/2months they're going to have a
baby. Yeah.
Now, really, a pregnancy is 10 months long.
Not nine months. The everyone says nine months.
But it's like 9 full months. It's like you are.
You get to your 10th month like you're.
Up at 10 months. Yes, like it's four weeks times

(01:44:36):
40 weeks. Like 40 weeks is a full
pregnancy. So at first when she said six
weeks, I was questioning it like6 weeks and 7 1/2 months.
And then I did the math and I'm like, well, that's nine months.
Yeah, but there's a month unaccounted for here.
Where she was already knocked out.
Correct. Yeah, yeah.
And I still think that's around Christmas time, but I think when

(01:44:59):
she is saying six weeks, she really means 10 weeks. 10 weeks?
Yeah, I would assume so. I think.
Especially given the parameters they had about the move and like
not wanting to get pregnant before the move, that's not
true. We weren't trying.
Yeah, they weren't trying. OK, well, fine.
And she was definitely knocked up.
It also annoys me because she's pregnant and then like, isn't

(01:45:21):
this a stressful thing? Like, why are you getting
pregnant if you know you're going to leave the state in some
sort of crazy manner? Now, maybe obviously they didn't
know everything about it was going to be crazy, but it's not
like they found out on a Tuesdayand then they left on a
Wednesday like they were rushed,but it's.
I mean, you don't think they're actually using protection or
trying to avoid pregnancy though, right?

(01:45:43):
No. No, no.
So if Robynson, she's six weeks pregnant, but she's actually 10,
is the main issue or our concernare are, you know, tearing it
apart bit that she's lying aboutthe time?
Or is there some another elementof it?
Like is it really just that theywere probably had no regard for

(01:46:04):
this thing that they made-up as a regard like, oh, we don't want
to get pregnant till we move when really they didn't care at
all. They were just having sex.
I I think to me, so she's due inOctober.
OK, so that timeline to me says Christmas likely when OK

(01:46:24):
insemination occurred. OK, OK.
Insemination, yeah. But when Kody says 7 1/2 months
and that they're going to have ababy in October, and maybe he
says 7 1/2 months and none of that makes sense for where they
actually are current day to whenthe October due date is.
Maybe he's full of shit, right? Because he knows she, maybe he

(01:46:49):
knows she's six weeks along and so he thinks it's nine months
and the baby's due in October. But that's wrong and maybe I'm
wrong. I was going to say like, maybe
I'm being loony about this, but a full term pregnancy is 40
weeks. So yeah, so I just October being

(01:47:11):
due, would leave like, you know,December, January ish.
You're getting pregnant, right? And the move took place
certainly several months after Christmas.
But see this is what sucks aboutthe move.
The schedule of the entire thingwas because it was about a
lining up with school schedules.But like when is when does the
school start their semester? In March or February?

(01:47:33):
Like, it just none of this really makes sense.
Right. I think the timeline for me, the
only questionable piece about itfor me is when Robyn tells Meri
she is six weeks along the same day that Kody says she has 7 1/2
months to go. Yeah.
We are still one month short of timeline and that's my question

(01:47:57):
and maybe it irons itself out and again, maybe I'm wrong, but
I don't think I'm wrong. I mean, I it could just be as
simple as Kody being like, hey, what's six weeks away from nine
months? You know what I mean?
Like they don't give us the background on that.
Kody also has had 16 children. So I feel like, right, Well, I'm

(01:48:19):
sorry, not 16. He's had 12.
He's had a lot, yeah. No, 6613.
Yeah, he's at 13. Because then Robyn.
'S three, yeah. I feel like he should know the
duration of weeks. Yeah, of a pregnancy.
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I, I guess the only
thing that I can think of with the lying or why this would be

(01:48:39):
happening is to make it seem like Robyn was pregnant after
she was. That's what I think.
I still don't really get the reason why in the sense of like
they were married and like doingtheir thing.
I I don't know why it would be such a big deal to wait for
after a move other than the literal like practical shit
about moving and and being pregnant.
But when you're in your first trimester, like whatever it's

(01:49:02):
like, do you think, why do you think in the point of lying?
I don't know what the point of lying would even be.
Do you think any of the other wives thought that they would
hold off an extended period of time before having children?
Because I don't. No, I don't think that was an
expectation. So again, I think Robyn and Kody
are pushing a narrative out there that, oh, we thought we
should wait. We thought we should wait.
We want what? To make it look better.

(01:49:23):
Yeah. Everybody knew you were going to
bang out some babies. Like, what are you talking
about? That is weird.
Apparently your whole engagementand the time until your wedding
and the time until you could live together and the time until
all of this was so long for everything else that took
forever. And now you've waited so long to
have a baby. Like they're just the victims
and fucking everything about this.

(01:49:45):
And then they lie and I'm like, what are you doing?
Yeah, for like some sort of fauxconsideration, but like, not
being considerate. So why would you even care?
Like no one would even care. Somebody else sets me straight
in the comments and makes us like, look, it wasn't that big
of a deal. It's this, this, this and this
and please do clear it up and I'll be so happy.

(01:50:05):
Exactly I'm. Not trying to be right about
this, OK. There's something we should be
looking for or even just like Googling or something about
this, like leave us a comment because I don't know and it
doesn't make sense to me. Because if he says 7 1/2 months,
I feel like he said that. He didn't.
Made February. No, I'm well, I'm saying if it
was February and he said 7 1/2 months, that would bring us to

(01:50:28):
March, right? And then it would be April, May,
June, July, August, September, October, 7 1/2 in February.
But that doesn't make sense withthe six weeks because then that
makes sense with six weeks. So then that's what I'm saying.
I think she was pregnant in November.
I think she was pregnant before Christmas.

(01:50:48):
Or like beginning of December, not November, beginning of
December. Yeah, that's what I think.
Is, I think she was pregnant before Christmas.
I, I just don't know why they have this made-up thing where
they're, you know, saving peoplefrom knowing or, you know, like.
Seeing this in some fashion. Yeah, why are we putting a
question? Let's just be honest.
Why would anyone really care? I mean, I don't.
Know, I don't know. I hope somebody can lay it all
out for me so that my brain can stop parting about it because it

(01:51:10):
just is confusing. Yeah, And I'm like such a
classic gay man. I'm like, do you want me to
count back the months from October?
Like, what are you asking me to do?
Like I'm like, I don't know whatthis even means.
And I'm. Trying to do and then I'm like
am I right or am I wrong? Do I know how to do math?
I don't know. You know, so that episode was
strange. It was a weird first episode of

(01:51:31):
a season. I don't know.
I did. It just felt weird to me.
I don't know. I think what felt weird to me
was that sometimes, like in Season 1 and two, we had moments
where we're like, we picked two things and we talk about this
one thing and this one thing. We back and forth and back and
forth about these two things thewhole time.
This was a little bit more than that, but then there were like

(01:51:53):
deeper level things with the kids a little bit and this whole
and just their communication andtrying to just, I don't know.
Yeah. It was a ride.
It was a ride. Justified decisions that didn't
need to be made? I don't know.
Ask for opinions way after the fact then we should have like
not be on the same page with thegoal in the 1st place and still
trying things like come on guys.Yeah, on to the important

(01:52:18):
matters at hand. Mustard seed and shit stain.
Do you have a mustard seed ready?
Do you have a shit stain ready? I have a mustard seed.
OK, give us your mustard seed. Now how funny would it be if
this was your shit stain? Oh God.
Christine. OK.

(01:52:39):
And I think the reason I wanted to give Christine a mustard seed
number one, she certainly got the short end of the stick with
the home yet again because she doesn't have a pool.
But also, I like that she recognized how much more
difficult the transition of thismove is for Janelle than the

(01:53:00):
rest of them. And I just really like to give
them props when they are considering other people, like,
wholly and fully with how their life is compared to the, you
know, like, I like the empathy that lives there in those
circumstances. And I think that that's part of

(01:53:20):
the only reason that they survive as a family as long as
they do. And I'm going to give her credit
for that. It was a great moment.
I mean, it was a cementing Sister Wives moment in a sense.
Like that's something you would expect of someone who's like in
that situation. And it was great to hear her
point that out. My mustard seed.

(01:53:40):
Oh God, mustard seed. It's challenging when you don't
like any of them. Just kidding.
I'm going to give my mustard seed this episode to Meri
because Meri responded well to Robyns news.
Like wasn't all like I'm heartbroken and everything so
terrible for me. Like I really kind of feel like

(01:54:02):
in a sense, she's kind of over having another child and she's
just not saying that out loud. And Robbins pushing something on
her. And I thought that she did.
She was very gracious by hostingthis dinner and responded
graciously and then showed up for the other family events.
And also like, kudos to Meri forshowing up for all these people
with these fucking kids. OK, So yes, she wants to be part

(01:54:24):
of the family and part of being part of being a family is
showing up and obliging yourself.
But realistically, she has one child and like, there's all of
these other people's kids and they're our family.
But I do want to give her a little nod because, like,
showing up for everybody else's kids all the time must be in
some ways exhausting shit stain.Well, Robyn.

(01:54:46):
Robyn. Robyn gets her shit stain.
Weird, I know. So weird.
Why did Robyn earn her shit stain?
Well, first, because I don't think she understands the
timeline of pregnancy or she's lying.
Yeah. She's not good with.
Math second, because I think she's projecting things on Meri.
Yeah. And the other sister wives
thinking about intimacy of theirhusband with the other wives.

(01:55:08):
Because also to me, that is justsomething that you actually
don't say out loud, even if it is a thought.
Because how uncomfortable for now all of them to think about
it, even if they hadn't been thinking about it.
And also for trying to pretend that she knows what a frontal
lobe is. Yeah.
And I think that's it. Robyn is terrible, Yeah.

(01:55:31):
Like it's weird how like we've discussed about watching this
show before and you might not see how terrible she is.
And now in a rewatch, it's like,this was just terrible.
Awful. So my shit stain cannot go to
Robyn because that would violatethe laws of time and space.
So my shit stain goes to Kody and Kody gets a shit stain

(01:55:54):
because he married Robyn. He didn't, you know?
I mean, I don't. He didn't really even bother me
that much this episode I feel like.
He's a couple of. Props.
I know, like, you know, sometimes he's a little pushy,
but I also feel like being the man of a family, you do have to
take a stance and be whatever sometimes.

(01:56:14):
So he didn't even drive me nuts this episode.
But he's just a shit stain and he deserves it 100%.
And no one else actually drove me that crazy other than Robyn.
Like Oh my God, terrible. No, there wasn't anything else
bad. Terrible woman.
I mean, we love you, Robyn. No, we don't.
Terrible. Our keep sweet moment this week
comes to us from a Apple podcastreview.

(01:56:36):
Now this one's funny because I think the user name that was
selected is Chris Shit Stain 69.Oh my God.
Now not sure because the characters that are chosen are
done so to not have it read Chris''s Shit Stain 69.

(01:56:58):
I have a question. But I love it, yeah.
Do you think it's a Brown familymember that you named as a shit
stain? No, no, because they gave us
five stars. Well, maybe they like what we're
saying, but maybe they deserve the shit stain one time.
Now I have to hear what it says.I apologize.
Let's go forward. I was going to say I'm it's one

(01:57:20):
of those weird things where I'm I'm a little weirded out, but
I'm also a little flattered. So I'm not sure where I sit with
this, but Chris's Shit Stain 69 says great show.
I binged once and might again keep it up and that's great.
And also like, you know, sittinghere with friends talking about

(01:57:41):
a show like giving us props. So the five stars was earned.
They like the show. They just titled themselves
Chris's Shit Stain 69. Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope.
I'm going on my conspiracy theory train here.
You think it's a brown? Chris's shit stain 69.
I believe it is someone that younamed.

(01:58:03):
As a shit stain. Oh, like Chris's like ownership,
like Chris's shit. And I think if anybody has been
tracking our fucking mustard seeds and shit stains, now is
the time for you to speak up because there's a finite amount
of people that could be on that list.

(01:58:26):
And. Yes.
We could start whittling away atthis and also please give us
more clues. Yeah, interesting.
Well, if you are a Brown and you're listening to this
podcast, thank you. You probably think that we're
funny and that's why you're listening.

(01:58:47):
Sorry for tearing your family apart, but.
Sorry, not sorry. Thanks for the five stars.
I mean, you know, you know. I feel like some of them would
like this if you listen to it, Ifeel like.
There's a few. I.
I'm going Would Leon listen to this show and think it's funny?
Probably. Would.
Gwendolyn Yes. I think yes.

(01:59:07):
I think there's some of the kidsthat would be like, this is
hysterical that you are tearing apart a family in this way
because it's for laughs. I mean, it's silly and it's TLC.
I mean, come on. And I think our critiques are,
well, they're all across the board.
So yeah. It's probably not Robyn.
Oh God no. Robyn gives us five stars on

(01:59:28):
this podcast. That'd be amazing.
No, Robyn's username will be Sabin Supporter 1971 and it will
say. Sabin Supporter.
I don't understand why you guys are so hard on Robyn all the
time. Can't you see that she's just

(01:59:50):
trying to bring this family together and she just has
everybody's own best interests at heart?
She's not selfish. No.
She doesn't care only about herself.
Like they would keep belaboring every detail every.
Detail. It's like a bullet list, like OK
girl all. Right.
I've been listening since the beginning and I have some

(02:00:12):
feedback about your criticism about Robyn.
You have her completely wrong, right?
Do tell. Everyone has Robyn completely
wrong. Another episode of Sister Wives
under the belt. Season 3 kickoff You know what?
We did it. We did.
The good news is we will have some fun new things coming up

(02:00:33):
and yes, we are aware that Kody is going to be on that show.
What is the show? Special Forces.
Special Forces on Fox, people have been leaving comments about
that. Not sure what our engagement's
going to be on that, but we willdefinitely be watching and we'll
definitely have some things to say about.
It and we are certain he fails miserably and no one likes him.

(02:00:53):
Yes, it will be fun to see him trash talked by prediction by
two judices. Oh.
My. God, excuse me, DJ's and you
know, yeah, seeing him cry, that'll be good.
I love it. Amen.
OK everyone, say your prayers when you go to bed tonight, ask
her forgiveness for everything you've sinned for, and then

(02:01:16):
Venmo me your donations. At Chris Shitstein, 60.
Nine. It wasn't like asterisk and
underscores thrown in there, youknow?
You know what Chris is Shitstein69.
I said. I I'm flattered.
I'm flattered, but I'm a little weirded out.
We'll see where this goes. Have a blessed day.

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