November 11, 2025 • 56 mins
Kody heads for the Vegas strip for a guy's night out, testing his wrestling skills against a mixed martial arts fighter and answering his friends' questions about his lifestyle. Meanwhile, the wives help setup Robyn's new nursery.
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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie, Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. The Miracle of Life of
Childbirth. A Sister's Special Delivery is
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season 3, episode 12. How are you doing, honey?
I just had a vision of like The Lion King when you said what was
it of life? Miracle of life.
The miracle of life. But then I went through the the
process in my brain because it'sthe circle of The Lion King.
But. The.
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The the baby Simba at the Rock, like, you know, and as it turns
out, that's kind of like what happens when this baby is born.
Yes, yes. The tribe, the whatever it's
called, the whole group of animals come to look and go, oh.
Of the King Solomon. Yes, the King's arrived.
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Yeah. So I'm glad that that it really
just tied a few things together for me.
Yes. So thank you.
Well, and we took this almost asseriously as we would an
animated cartoon about animals in Africa because it's Sister
Wives. Welcome, everyone.
Thank you for joining us for theseason finale of Season 3.
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We do have a surprise coming. Well, not a surprise, but an
interesting episode coming up next, which is a, I'm not sure
if I'm giving it away yet. We'll see.
But sister's special delivery, Robyn's going to give birth to
Solomon. That's what we get in this
episode overall. But of course, we have to have a
few things before that because, well, we do.
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We open at Robyn's house and sheis nervous and excited because
you know, she's preggers, she's big, she's ready to pop.
She's having pre labor contractions.
Do you remember what that term is?
Braxton Hicks. I know I'm getting close, she
says. I'm just like, it's it just
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right now, since we're watching season 20 as well, and then
going back to this, I'm like, God, she's so young and
simpleton. Yeah, so simpleton back then.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I guess maybe I no, she's so
simple about. She's like a decade behind
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'cause she's like 30 here and itseems like she's 20.
Right, exactly. To me.
Barely above the teenagers, you know, So everything she said was
just like, Yep, I'm excited and I'm nervous and I'm getting
close. And it without the Minnesotan
accent that makes it more adorable and loving, you know,
or lovable. Lovable.
It's lovable, damn it. She did reference joking with
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Meri about being thankful because she was talking about
her morning sickness and all of the issues that she's had with
this. She even says something like,
well, I've been sick up until just recently, like OK, sounds
good. And she says that Meri tells her
to be thankful that at least she's able to have a another
child. So she jokes about texting her
like I'm so thankful for my morning sickness.
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Well, what she said was I can't complain in front of Meri,
right, because Meri will just tell me I have to be grateful.
And so I couldn't tell if that was like a ha ha joke or if it
was a little bit of AI try to besensitive to you.
But sometimes I'm still having my feelings about being sick
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about it and blah blah blah, youknow?
Yeah, it definitely started out on that wavelength of the like,
OK, well, I've got a situation going on here too.
But then by the end, I think shewas like, I just have to joke.
It's like, Yep, because you're coming across a certain way, but
that's fine. This is it.
While Robyn is speaking to camera in this in the nursery, I
think she's taking out like a bassinet or a.
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Pack and play. Pack and play.
She's putting together a pack and play and they're doing some
shots of the room and there was this shot of these white Tennys,
these little kids shoes on a on a dresser or whatever.
And I was like, oh, they're justso damn cute.
Those shoes are always so cute. And I said that to you.
I said, Oh my God, those shoes are always so cute.
And you were like, Yep. Well, OK.
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Well, you had the real experience.
I have not. So I just see them and I'm like,
oh, I just want to buy 5000 pairs of them because they're so
fucking you. Do and everybody does and
everybody does. And then as you're packing up
your kids baby clothes, you lookat all of these adorable little
shoes that everybody bought, butyou never put them in them.
They don't walk. All they do is kick those shoes
off other places. You can't put them on their feet
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too tight. You're constantly just trying to
find them and then you go to pack everything up and there's
17 pairs of them that they didn't wear.
And you're like, well, that was great.
Why did we even do this? You know?
So I guess, I guess they're adorable, but they're not
practical. And so it is just for those
photo image E things that they become.
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I had some little Adidas that I was like, these are the cutest
things I've ever seen. Never touched his feet.
Not one single time. And this is it.
It speaks to my inner consumer, my capitalist, because I'm like,
I want to buy them. They're so cute.
Keep growing that economy. Yeah.
And then the inner photographer as well because, yes, you just
want to take pictures. Oh, I just want to take, you
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know, you just want to document them.
They're so cute. Yes.
There is a couch moment with Kody where he's talking about
something. I didn't care what he was
talking about, but his hair was terrible.
And I didn't, you know, I've been not paying attention to his
hair and now all of a sudden I'mlike, it's atrocious.
Like it is just long and whatever it is, like I don't
even know what it is. It's bad.
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So strange. We say that as if there's a
point in time he's gotten it together.
Like where it's good, right? No, just a different level of
bad. In fact, shout out to whoever
left a comment on an episode where we were talking about if
he got his hair cut he would maybe be more attractive.
Someone left a comment this weekon our Spotify being like, well
now I can't listen because they think he would be sexy.
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And it's like, well enjoy your time not listening.
It's like we're not being serious.
First of all, I'm not sold on the fact that he would be
attractive if he cut his hair, but I do know that he would be
far more attractive than he is right now.
Yes, he doesn't have a bad jaw, I know.
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I know, I just thought it was funny 'cause it was like wow,
way to make your statement. Still hate him as a human.
This doesn't change his human qualities, it's just the
outwardly appearance. You know well and you know.
Apologies. Well, I know it's like we do
make fun of his appearance quitea bit, so you're missing out on
that. And every single other aspect.
Of yeah, yeah, totally. We're certainly not a Kody fan
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account. Out on all of that.
Totes like congratulations, goodfor you.
It's. Like this is the wrong power
stance. But yeah, OK, right throughout
the opening of this episode, thefirst act or whatever, we go
through each of the wives homes and kind of this preparation for
the day, for what's happening, alittle bit of a status update.
We start with Janelle's after Robbins, where she's talking
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about the move, which is kind ofpart of these overviews of each
house is how the teenagers are doing with the move still.
Maybe that's what Kody was talking about was how the kids
are settling into the yeah, I think that's what, And then they
go through the rundown of each home.
Yep, Yep. So when they start at Janelle's
house, she's talking about Hunter and then Maddie, and she
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says Hunter is doing better. It's still not Utah for him.
He's withdrawn and sullen, but he's 14.
He's. 14 Boy, did that resonate.You know, I was like, you're not
going to be able to win regardless, so.
Hunters not the first teenager in the family, but I love how
she's like he's 14, you know, whatever that means because like
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literally this statement almost sounds like she doesn't know
what it would mean, but it's more know whatever that means.
Right, because it's unpredictable at best and you're
probably not going to win most of the time.
So she's just settling into the.It's less bad than it was, so
this is good. We obviously ruined his life,
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but we probably would have anyway even if we stayed where
we were totally. Every 14 year olds life gets
ruined at some point. We know this.
Maddie is still engaging with her friends back in Utah and
almost living vicariously through them.
Janelle references that she's texting, she's emailing, she's
on the Internet with them. She's very much engaged with her
(09:09):
friend group back in Utah. And so I don't know is what it
is. Then we transition to
Christine's house and she says that Aspen and Mckelty hated the
move, which we know all the teenagers didn't like the move.
But now Mckelty loves it in Vegas and she has a little
spotlight moment where she's just like, I love it here.
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So Mckelty. I don't even know what she said,
but it was so Mckelty. I love Vegas.
Yeah, like. She just really does.
She is totes fine. Yeah, Aspen says that she likes
living there. It's totally fine.
Things are getting better. Christine talks about how Peyton
does not like living there and that he clearly struggled with
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the move a lot. And then they show that footage
of when Kody's like, we're leaving in three days and he
looks shocked and stunned. And it's such a weird flash.
It's such an interesting clip because they use it so much and
it is very dynamic. I mean, he's Kody is saying this
dramatic news and Peyton sittingright next to him.
And so now, from now until the rest, for as long as Peyton is
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alive, and then even after. Until after he's dead.
For now, until the end of eternity, there will be footage
of Peyton looking shocked and saddened that he has to leave in
three days when he was like a preteen.
Like terrible. But you know, they have a couch
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moment while Christine is talking about Peyton, where
Robyn says that Peyton has started connecting more with
Dayton, which she's really enjoying.
Christine shares the example of how Dayton could move back to
his dad's place. So went oh, this, this does not
sit well with me. No, but this.
Was all bad. It's that whole thing of like,
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well, Dayton could choose to go live with his father if we don't
treat him well. And then, oh, all of a sudden
Peyton realized, oh, I could lose my brother.
I better be nice to him as how she's saying it.
But it just sucks that we know the root of this is Robyn
bringing it up as a leverage tool to be like, you need to be
nice to my kids. It was a threat.
It was a threat, yeah. And and so, OK, combining
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children and families is complicated, right?
Like, even if it's stepchildren in families and things, now,
this is obviously a little more complicated, but not really.
It's the same kind of thing. You're putting kids together in
families whom have been raised differently, who have different
parents who all of these things.And that is tricky, right?
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Like, that's inherently tricky. Robyn says that Peyton was
harassing and teasing Dayton. Now, I'm not saying that that's
not accurate. That's likely a very accurate
thing that was being done. But also it seems like it's only
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Peyton's fault. And usually there's some level
of some back and forth happening, right?
Like, is it completely unwarranted?
Is it whatever? We don't really hear or see a
lot of it. We did see the clip back of Meri
scolding the kids when they werefighting or whatever.
Not her singling out Peyton in this footage.
Actually, it was to everyone. Correct.
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And I just think that that many kids together are super
complicated and some of them aregoing to be Dicks sometimes.
And yes, you have to address that.
But the way of getting them to fall in line is not threaten
that this kid that just became apart of your family is going to
be torn away by their other parents.
Like, that's not a helpful method of making this
comfortable. And I just, I don't, yeah.
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I don't like how it felt. I don't like it.
It's funny because I don't like how Robyn goes about it.
But also like, I was protective Mama bear in a situation once
where my kids, my kid was aroundother kids and that wasn't super
easy for me either. So I think I'd probably be more
like her in the scenario, you know?
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But like, anyway, I don't know. I don't know.
It felt a little gross. It felt gross that they used a
threat towards Peyton to supposedly get him to understand
it. I feel like that shouldn't have
been what was needed. And I just don't know where they
missed the boat. Well, there's also this
underlying thing. It's weird when talking about
the children because they are kids and when I was 11 or 10 or
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12 or whatever like that footagewould be horrendous and I
wouldn't be able to probably justify it as a an adult and
rationalize it and make it make sense.
Fast forwarding to current day and like Peyton doesn't have
relationships with several siblings because they are like
I'm done with his harassment, I'm done with his cruelty.
So how do you say this about a 10 year old or a 12 however old
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he is? Like this is a pattern that
already exists and. Well, seeing the future paints
it differently, right? Like it's hard to analyze the
moment when you can then see thefuture and if you know that
there was more behind it in the moment, it feels uncomfortable.
But but also we're getting glimpses and pieces and, you
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know, who knows? I also though some of those
moments that come out show that it was pretty clear that some of
the things that caused division between the wives, it wasn't all
just Kody. There are some kid dynamics to
stuff that caused some separation, right?
Like there are times when they tell Meri to stop parenting
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their children and you know, there's division about how kids
do treat each other. And of course moms are going to
take different sides and different ways and excuse
sometimes their own kids behavior and whatever, blah blah
blah. I feel like it's just a bigger
picture of yes, there's a fucking lot of them and it's
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going to be complicated. Yeah, they do wrap up by telling
us, though, that Peyton and Dayton walked to the bus
together in the mornings. Now that because of kind of, I
don't know, I guess because he was shaken up a bit by the
threat of your your new brother could be gone.
He basically has snapped into shape a little bit with the
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treatment bit. And they do show footage of him
going over to Robbins before school and he and Dayton going
to get on the bus together. So I guess if you're in that
situation and as a parent, that would be an outcome you'd like
to see, you know, like regardless of how you kind of
have to get there or we don't know every dynamic, we kind of
only get, you know. I'm probably not above
threatening things, right? Like if I knew there was
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something that was going to actually make a difference and
potentially make the thought process change, I yeah, I can't
say I wouldn't use it. And because we only have limited
footage, we really get a lot of the like, parents telling us how
it is as opposed to seeing any real interaction.
I think that's part of the problem is that we're just, and
especially just hearing some of the stuff from Robyn and then
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and then Christine having to be like, and then I told him and
maybe and like, anyway, anyway, yeah.
And then we go over to Meri's house.
Meri. Meri quite contrary her house.
Oh, she tells us that Leon is still struggling and talks about
faking having a good attitude but isn't happy.
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And I can see that Leon definitely has the vibe of like
I was raised by a person who requires me to have a good
attitude even if I am not happy.Yeah, I don't identify it all.
Well, also like hiding some of their own shit too.
Like not, I don't want to say hiding, figuring out some of
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their own shit. Like feeling like you're faking
it isn't necessarily just about the place that you've moved to,
right? It's, it's a lot of things that
you're trying to figure out withwho you are and who you're going
to become. And I thought that was kind of a
like, there was probably a lot more happening behind the scenes
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in that than just the move that was taking.
Yes, yeah. My gut is telling me it's a lot
about it's in the framework of being raised by Meri in Meri's
household. I honestly think that has a big
part of it. I there's some parallels with
like how I was raised with how Meri runs her household.
And there is an element of like,you're going to have a good
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attitude, it doesn't matter. So, you know, Leon's being
interviewed in the bathroom, andthere's this moment where they
say they met Robyn at a dance with Meri, which parallels
somewhat with the book that we've read where Meri references
meeting Robyn at a dance. Even though some people are
like, did that really happen? Like, it's all over the place.
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But Leon thought that Robyn would be Meri and Kody even when
they first met Robyn. So I'm curious if that means
like there was some storytellinghappening from Meri in the
moment because how does your intuition say, I bet my dad's
going to marry this person when you meet them?
Like there has to be have been something going on.
I think that sometimes you're super observant of what's taking
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place and I think that they probably saw Meri and Kody
having this because it kind of rejuvenated their relationship a
little bit to consider having a new wife come into the family.
And I'm sure Leon was witness to.
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And even that one weird moment where Meri's being all weird
like at the wedding and stuff, you know, and like, oh, I'm
thinking all of these things andthey pan out and Leon's like
right there or whatever. Don't you remember like tying
the tie at the wedding or something?
I just feel like Leon likely sawa lot of that parent behavior
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act like just. Mom and dad are connecting in
the way about this thing that I don't see them doing any.
Correct. Yeah, correct.
That that's that's where my words were trying to go.
And I I I think that it was obvious.
Amen. Like my my parents have an
enthusiasm about a person. Like what is this?
And Meri was totally, you know, fawning over Robyn and just, you
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know, all the things and look atpretty she had a.
Crush on Robyn just like Kody did.
Well, but they don't go weird. They don't go weird maybe.
They should. Have they should have gone
weird? Meri should still go weird.
That's what's going on with Meri.
She needs to dip her toe in the lady pond and just see what
that's like. Because if she likes it, then
that's great. And if she doesn't, then she
doesn't. But you know, when your thing, a
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requirement of a man is that he's over 6-2 and that's your
requirement, It's like, girl, doyou really have an interest in
men? Because like, I don't know.
But you'll hear more about that from us in our rewatches of the
Season 20 episodes. So Kody brings Robyn to visit
the midwife, April at her office.
We don't get to see her laying on a leather couch, I don't
think unfortunately, which I waslooking forward to, but I
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couldn't tell what she was laying on.
I guess it didn't really distract me in a negative way
are. You sure?
I think she was on a leather. Couch.
Was she on the leather couch? Yeah, damn it.
I'm like, are you serious? Yeah, she probably was.
Fuck, her belly was out and thenthey panned back and she pulled
up like the elastic and she was on the black leather couch in
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the fucking. Room.
That's right. She was sorry she had to pull
those stretch pants up over thatbelly.
Yeah, yeah. I was like.
So fucking comfortable though. Best pants ever.
Amen. I also it's interesting to see
this much skin on Robyn because it's like, OK, interesting.
Interesting is a way to put. It well, you know no shame about
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actually seeing it it's more about the like aren't you
supposed to be wearing your garments like why are you
actually This is why my theoriesof them not even being religious
at this point they're they're falling out of their faith in me
like so much they. Rarely speak of it at this.
Yeah. It's only if they need content
filler basically, don't you think?
(21:18):
Yeah, if they're running low on ideas and they need to do
another church service at home, then we'll then we'll talk about
it. Yeah.
But otherwise, no. Robyn's exposing her body parts
on the television. Almost.
Or who had the very end? Well, this we almost saw some
cooter. Yes, we saw.
Comedy's hand inside it, that was nice, yeah.
It was, but that's anyway it's still to come.
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You. April tells them that they
should make an appointment for next week, and nothing is
concerning at this point. Solomon's very comfortable in
there and there's no more room to grow, so he'll come out when
he can. I believe at this time they are
a week and 1/2 from her due date.
So you know, very close yet not quite there.
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They they discuss how this is a bonding moment for the whole
family. This baby of hers gets to
connect the whole family and really cement her in there
solidly, you know? Yeah, He's got a big job,
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Solomon. Well, isn't there an element of
truth to that though, with families coming together and
then like oftentimes a newborn really does kind of cement some
things? I I feel like if we were to look
statistically, it's probably 5050 as to whether that cement
something or it makes. It makes it worse, Sure, sure.
Right, like in real life reality, yeah, I I think there
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are times it probably does for the right families in this
stuff, but I think for others it's like, Nope.
Oh God, wrong choice. While they're leaving, Kody
tells Robyn that she looks vibrant and that maybe she
should just have the baby tonight.
And then she smiled at him and the way she smiled at him, I was
like, this may be the least attractive I've ever seen her.
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Like, not that she not because she's big and pregnant, but the
way that her face was looking inthe gesture she was making.
I'm like, this is vibrant to you?
She looked like a Teenage MutantNinja Turtle, but instead of
green, she was white. Like I'm like, what's going on
here? I think she's really fucking
annoyed with him. That's what's going on there.
I think she's really fucking annoyed by everything, Kody.
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But she can't say it right because we don't say that.
No, got to be thankful for that morning sickness and you got a
smile for Kody. Then this demon baby about to
come out of my Hoo ha. Demon baby.
There's a couch moment with someof the teenagers and Hunter.
This was a lot. Yeah, well, there was plenty
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said and plenty probably left unsaid.
Implied. Yeah, Hunter thinks they already
have enough kids, maybe even toomany kids already.
More than they can handle. More than they can handle.
So his perspective, and to be fair, I mean his face is reading
like he's not maybe being the most sensitive or whatever.
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He's in his feels. He's mad, he's annoyed, he's
frustrated, and he's like, we already have too many kids
anyway. I don't know.
Maddie is questioning things just kind of in general, like
along the same wavelength but a little less, you know, negative.
I would say probably just like, well, I don't really know.
I mean, how are you supposed to know?
And like, we do have a lot of kids and I don't really know.
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Am I really happy? I don't know.
I don't know, like that. It was a lot of, I don't know.
Yes, all of these things seem tobe pretty reasonable.
They're not exactly shining a pretty light like the Rose
colored glasses that Christine would like or the delusions that
Robyn loves, but it's just real thoughts and feelings and
opinions coming from these kids.And then you jump in with Leon
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doing the classic called Raised by Meri response, which is, you
know, you need to love them likethey're your brother, Like I
already love him. They're like you already love
him. Like doesn't even make sense.
And Leon says, well, don't you love him?
And it's like, this is the guiltthing.
It's the, you know, we're supposed to feel this way.
Regardless of what you're reallyfeeling.
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This is what we're supposed to feel.
Cult cult cult cult cult traditional family values,
repression. I'm familiar I I wasn't raised
in a cult but. I'm like, come on.
But I do think, yes, Leon was raised in a cult and yes, that
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could be part of their, you know, response and openness to
this. However, just in general, in any
family, you're going to have some kids that are like, I can't
wait for this little baby. And I love him already so much.
And I'm just, Oh my God. And then you're going to have
other kids that are like, I don't need that new baby.
Yeah. So I don't I don't inherently
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think it's any different than another family welcoming an
additional sibling, especially from like I, I, I don't know why
I'm harkening this family to like step parenty kind of stuff
because it kind of is at this. Point.
It feels like it with Robyn. Because she brought kids in.
But this is a little different. And yeah, I think they still
kind of look at it as step parenty.
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So goes both ways. Yeah, you know, definitely
conditioning, though. In the call to, you are supposed
to have a good, you are supposedto be thankful.
This is a blessing. 150% Also though, I'm sorry I keep pushing
back on you about this so much. Amen.
I think that there's the culty part of it, but I also think
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that there's the Meri and Leon both know that they wish they
had been able to have an additional sibling and, or child
and or whatever. So they are looking at this
like, well, I'm going to look atit as that for us too, and
having somebody that we're closeenough to that maybe this can
really be great for us too. And so I don't, again, I'm not
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saying the cult don't play a part, but that totally makes
sense. I think that there's levels to
it that are different for for them specifically and why
they're handling it a little bitdifferently than like even
Janelle and Christine and their kids.
Yes, that and we see that with both Leon and Meri throughout
the episode. Yes, cut to Meri telling us that
they're going to go look at properties for a fitness center.
(27:31):
With Bill, their new business partner, Bill.
Hey, Bill. Bill, when they're talking about
it, there's this moment where Christine is talking about
owning a gym. But now I'm going to continue to
say fitness center because firstof all, have I ever called the
gym a fitness center? Probably not.
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Have I referred? To you work in a hotel.
You call it a fitness. Center.
Oh see OK, so the I understand that it is what you could call a
gym is a fitness center. But I wouldn't call a gym a
fitness center. Well, it just doesn't like roll
off the tongue like. Oh, I just choose to.
Say fitness center like no. And she just keeps saying it and
then she's like says something about how do you remember what
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she actually said? I do OK.
What did she actually say? Because she was like, you know,
I'm really excited about this business and I think it's going
to be great for us. But also I just, I'm struggling
because there's this feeling like, you know, they look at us
like we do not look like gym owners, like, oh, look at us.
Yeah, yeah. And, well, it's true.
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True. Yeah, it was.
It's just weird because this is what the show does to us.
So we're talking about this babycoming and then all of a sudden
it's like, remember they're opening a fitness center.
Like OK, bam, that's right, it'sin our face.
And Kody tells us that he wants to open the fitness center in
six months 6. Months, six months, we don't
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even have a building, but in sixmonths we will have this
business. I'm sure they've worked out all
the financing and everything already.
Well, Bill introduced them to that part.
A potential business partner who, what's his name, Blank
check for you. But you know, we don't know.
We don't have any of those real details.
We just know now we're going to go look at buildings and
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randomly Mona's going to show up.
Wait. Before Mona get.
Well, maybe it's right as Mona shows up, but they're talking
about the names. The names, yes.
So they're outside after this couch moment, they transition to
footage of them outside of like a strip mallish thing.
And they say something about there was some sort of store
that was closing that they were walking in front of him.
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Kody's like, well, it didn't have enough square footage,
blah, blah, blah. And so they're just kind of
showing us they're transitioningfrom the couch to them looking
at actual properties and then they're talking about the title,
but they're not really telling us they're going to talk about
it. He just starts saying fitness
fundamentalists and starts laughing.
And they're like, stop. It's fundamental fitness, which
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is not. Any better?
Which I'm going, I know, right? It's like, first of all, both of
these suck. And inherently, if you're
starting a business and you justkeep saying the wrong name, then
that probably means you don't have the right name.
They don't know. What they're doing, we know.
They don't know. What they're doing, we know.
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They don't know what. They're doing.
They just give us all these examples of them not knowing
what they're doing. I know this is it.
So yes, Mona shows up. Hey, Mona, Like, nice.
Nice to see you again. She's going to help them find
this property. Kody was really excited because
it was a ritzy strip mall next to a daycare center.
(30:44):
Now, I actually think the placement next to a daycare
center is not inherently bad. Maybe for marketing purposes or
whatever, but they're never going to open a gym.
What are we talking about? Waste of time and breath.
I feel so bad because at the time I sent them a check for
$40,000 and I said I want to be an investor.
Oh, don't you wish you had that back, I mean.
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Well, I mean. That's why I've learned to not
send checks for $40,000 to people.
The random polygamous. Anymore, especially the cult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but sometimes it's
hard to tell it's a cult or not so.
I was just very enthused by their.
You bought into their multi level marketing.
Center by the I Thought Fitness Center.
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Oh my gosh, I've got to invest. So what's funny?
And I've had to learn this too, but it's not just that we can
invest in the fitness center, sowe have to visit it too.
Oh. We actually, they'll use it.
Well, us, yes, but they like even Meri's like well, we're
going to have to use it. It's like you don't open a gym
because you need to go. You already have a gym
membership and you have admittedly not participated.
(31:53):
But even Tamara Barney, you know, in her bodybuilding
fitness competition, still her gym went on her.
Yeah, yeah. I mean.
It's not. Just because you go to your own.
Gym, reality TV celebrities. Unfortunately, I'm.
Going to open a gym because I need to go to.
Home maybe for us. We should open a gym this
listeners, if you would like to send me an e-mail at Redacted
(32:17):
then I would be happy to get youan address where you can send a
$40,000 check and you can investin our fitness.
It's called be a deadbeat loser here at this gym or some stupid
name. Pleasehave0expectations@gmail.com
Yeah, you know. Definitely at Gmail.
No actual real domains, just at Gmail.
Also. At I will never.
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Be.reimbursed.721@gmail.com. Yeah, you have to check a box
that's like I nothing will ever come.
From real donation, yes. Not an investment, just a
donation. A donation.
Well, as they're wrapping up thescene, they're walking away and
I just think it's funny and thisis sometimes I'm a little judge
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mental sometimes. And as they're walking away, I
forgot for a second that Robyn was pregnant and I was like 4
fat wives making this fucking gym.
I was like, this is literally because it's hot off the heels.
Of course, Christine being like,what did you say?
That's what she just said. But then it like dawned on me.
(33:20):
I'm like, Oh my God, as they're walking through the parking lot,
I'm like, no, absolutely not. And then I was like, well, it is
only three fat wives and a pregnant wife, so that's a
little different. She gets fat too though, as we
all do, I mean. She got a little thicker, yes.
Come on. I know, I know so, and this is
the reason I I can say fat 'cause I'm fat.
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I'm fucking fat. I was.
Super skinny at 30 post divorce that did not didn't, shouldn't
last, shouldn't last. Shouldn't last.
I was skinny when I was 32. That's the last season.
Oh, good times. So after I judged the wives
cruelly and harshly for their BMI, we transitioned to the
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wives going out to lunch. They started doing this a few
months ago because they weren't spending time together.
Oh, which, you know, as a family, you know, you usually
have to see each other. So there's that.
You were brushing right past thebeginning of this scene because
they all arrived at Robyn's house to go to this lunch and as
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they arrived, Robyn was sitting in her African nursery.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
And she had my blanket. Yes, she had this blanket.
Ali, I'm so sorry, listeners, I apologize to you.
And Ally, I apologize to you for.
You should for most. I was very affected by it as we
were watching because then I hadto pause and think what the fuck
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happened to that blanket becauseI loved it.
It was beautiful. I'm going to, I'm going to say
dark purple blanket with like like a woven something.
It had a little bit of neon pop of color in it, though some like
green and some maybe a little bit of orange or teal.
(35:12):
Not a lot of color, not a lot ofcolor, but it was super cute and
like long fringes at the end. Probably a Target purchase, if
I'm guessing, to be honest. Like, this is not, Yeah, I mean,
but I loved it. And I was like, what happened?
I'm pretty sure like a dog threwup on it.
And I was like, I will not, yeah, try to clean this.
(35:34):
It is just going directly in thetrash can because it was
probably about 1999 or something, you know, not the
year, the dollar amount, and so the $20 blanket was not worth.
Like this one I can just throw away.
Yeah, I usually do that. Yeah, that's an.
Option you know. But then it was so wonderful
that you got to have this momentof reliving your memories with
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that blanket through Robyn. Her African nursery and it did
harken back to my African basement that we had discussed,
right. And so I think that blanket was
purchased for that basement. Anyway, so many similarities
between the libras here. I hate this.
I hate it so much just. Kind of rub that in God.
(36:17):
Damn it. But it was great.
They're literally Ally was like I had that blanket.
Well, and then I made Chris go rewind because I was like, I
just started thinking way too long about the blanket, I missed
the show, whatever. Happened.
Please go back. Listen, if I saw a blanket that
I had 15 years ago, I would be like, what did happen to that
blanket still? Exists.
Someday we'll find it. Yes, with the holidays coming
(36:40):
up, maybe you'll discover it while you're looking for your
Christmas decor. It's probably packing in my
something or. Yeah, yeah, there was this, this
blanket moment, and I'm sorry for skipping over.
It I thank you for acknowledgingit.
But then the wives are telling us that they are going to these
lunches on a monthly basis for aweek.
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I don't I don't think they tell us, but they started it.
They just. Don't see each other that much.
They don't see each other that much, as you know, family
members don't, I guess, but they're supposed to.
I don't know. They talk about reconnecting
during these lunches. I feel like in a recent rewatch
there was like reference to how they don't do things, which is
why they went out on the strip. So this is like a thing like I
wonder if it's they're recognizing it or if it's more
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production driven. And doesn't Christine kind of
note some of that in her book that like things, certain things
were really driven just to film?Like otherwise they didn't
actually see each. Other they would only see each
other for productions. And so that totally makes sense
Also, you know, yes, you should see family.
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But as we know, life is life. And like, weeks and months can
go by, like, in the blink of an eye, right?
Yeah. But you're sharing a husband.
Yeah, it's not like you're not the same.
It's not your sibling who lives out of state, correct?
It's your sister. Wife, one that lives 30.
Minutes away. A block away.
Is different, yeah. You're sharing a husband with
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this man, and part of the reasonyou're sharing a husband is for
the community that said cult shit is supposed to bring you.
Yes. And I really feel like when they
don't have that, that's when they lose it all.
That literally is when it all falls apart.
And it makes me scratch my head because I'm like, y'all are
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signing up for an eternity together.
Like this is the goal is that you can get into a celestial
Kingdom and live together forever.
But in this current life right here, right now, you live a
block away from each other. Meri lives a mile.
Like each other. They don't even spend time
together, they only do because they have to for production.
Just wait until we get to Christine's apology tour in a
(38:52):
minute. Well, it's just.
Well, I mean, it's just bizarre.I just, you have to question the
rationale, the logic of someone who thinks I want to spend
eternity with these people like it just does.
I don't even know whatever you would hope you would want to
spend eternity with people you like.
I guess I don't know. I I think it's just maybe that
(39:14):
we're setting the bar a bit too fucking high.
Don't you like we are No they. Are they are?
Like we they, we are setting thebar too high.
Like we're going to live our life together for all the time.
No, maybe like, you know, it's kind of like a a right?
Like one day at a time. I just just don't make any crazy
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celestial promises. Just get through one day at a.
Time, which is the point of the whole thing.
Which is why it's so weird. It makes no sense.
Are we crazy? Are they?
Crazy both, but they're crazy ina weird way.
We're just crazy. We're just crazy in a normal
way. That's fine, I'm having.
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All of a sudden, the screen, theleg Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo.
Like technical difficulties. Robyn tells us that she's never
had Sister Wives before, which we know.
Is that what she said? Well, she said that to the
wives. She was like, you know, I've
never had sister wives before. OK, what do you want me to call
you in the middle of the night if the.
Oh, no, no, no. Oh, I am rushing past an
(40:22):
important detail. Oh, OK.
Ali, I apologize. Can you tell our listeners what
it is that Robyn tells the wivesas they're sitting at this
lunch? Well, I've never had sister
Wives before. There's like a this drawn out
because she's so awkward about every single thing she does.
(40:45):
So the the question that followsis completely appropriate.
But what is ridiculous is how stupid she says.
Yes, yes. Never had sister wise before.
When you're giving your credit with the R on the on the sister,
it was there was no R. No, it was Y.
It was Sista. Sista wise.
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Like. I was struggling to get there
because it was just so. Disturbed.
According to Robyn, there's no Rin sister.
So lovely. Wives.
She's just a mess. She's wondering.
But I do understand the clarifying.
Call you in the middle of the night because I'm going to be
giving birth to your husband's child.
Yes, and I would feel like that's an OK question to ask
(41:30):
because you don't want to assumethat you should, but you also
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
So I am going to give her five bonus points.
Interesting, now we're giving bonus points.
I'm like for a what? Excuse our mess, we're cleaning
up. No more bonus points.
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Oh my God. I'm.
Yeah, in reality, I am sure mostplural marriages, especially if
the wives don't live together, they don't actually see the
child the night that they're born.
Like this is not normal. It is actually not.
Normal. No.
I'd like to hear from others. I'd like to hear from others.
Well, the ones that I've heard from online are like, no, like,
you don't travel in the middle of the night to go visit your
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sister, wife who just gave birth.
Like, generally. Now, you're right.
It's probably a gambit. It's probably all over the
board. So she's asking.
Christine says yes, that she would like to come over, but
then they don't give anybody else's responses.
We do hear from them later. Like, we circle back to what
their things are. They're just kind of teeing it
up at this luncheon. And then there's this back and
forth and it lands where Meri's talking about her birthing
(42:37):
experience with Leon. And it comes up that Kody, after
she gave birth, she was like, I didn't know if Leon was a boy or
a girl. I didn't know anything.
And Kody said, it's a boy. And the midwife says that's the
umbilical cord. This is so great on so many
(42:59):
levels, but truly given Leon's journey in gender transitioning
and wherever status they are right now, I don't even want to
lay claim on it as if I know because Leon is a very private
person now and doesn't share a lot of things with the public
and so I want to respect their privacy and all of that.
(43:19):
But the notion, it still is funny.
That. Born Born a female at birth and
then dad thought. What thought the penis was
coming from the belly button? I just the first.
Time I've heard this isn't this.Maybe it's more of a joke.
(43:41):
He was no. I mean also they're young and
dumb, right? It's like young and dumb.
But haven't other men thought this?
Or is it literally like a stupidmistake?
Fuck, I don't know. I don't.
I don't want to know that much about what men think, right?
And I mean, it's just very obvious that that's not where
your genitals are going to be. No, but you know, I have read
(44:01):
some disturbing shit on the Internet about what men and do
and do not know. So, you know, like it's.
If you can keep that on the Internet, we don't need to have
it on our pocket. Yes.
Literally don't. Literally don't.
But but people, educate your sons, OK?
Right, their penis is not actually in their belly button.
(44:21):
And also like so many anyway, donot get literally do not get me
started. OK, so they had gone through,
you know, call me in the middle of the night or don't call me
whatever this is at their luncheon, right?
And Christine also gives Robyn some tidbits about how Kody is
(44:44):
actually super helpful during labour, like he knows really
good pressure points and whatever, which if he truly does
Amen. Like I'm sure that's super
wonderful in the moment. Don't know, never had it, but
wouldn't that be nice? And so she goes on about this.
Meri kind of then had said, yeah, I don't have that much
experience because Christine andJanelle have both gone through 6
(45:09):
births with Kody. Meri has only gone through 1.
So she then shares the story of Leon's birthright.
Now at the end of that lunch, Robyn is sitting there, and in
true disgusting Robyn fashion, she's like, well, girls, it's
(45:30):
because of you that I've got, you know, such a great man here
to be with me and help me birth my baby.
And that's how they buttoned up that little segment there.
And I was just disgusted. Yeah, it's not that It's not
true. This is it.
I just hate the way that she frames girls.
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And thank thankfully, you delivered me my perfect husband.
It's just not. She just doesn't know how to do
it. She never knows how to do it,
ever. Not one.
Single time. This is not the first time that
she's laid this out. Disgusting.
Like, wow, you made this man perfect for me.
Like, yeah, all of the times we've struggled and all of our
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shit and you get the benefit quote, UN quote.
Right. Gross.
Right. This next scene in Christine's
bedroom or in a bedroom in Christine's house, Oh, it's a
lot. It's a lot.
It's like heavy and weird and strange.
Also listeners, just so you know.
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She talks. She says a lot like I.
Feel like it's manic. I feel like this was like a
manic. I.
Moment. I suspect that she was given a
talking to by Kody. I think she was reprimanded in
some way because the way that she goes through this where
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overall, like let's I'll give anoverall and then we'll jump into
the details. She is creating a handmade piece
of artwork I guess that you would frame.
Is it stitch embroidery? What is that called?
It may be something like cross strip, so we can say terms like
cross stitch, hand stitch, embroidery, blah blah blah.
(47:15):
It's some sort of cloth cross. Stitch that's.
Probably that has, yeah, like threads or yarn or something
where you create a pattern, you create a visual words, pictures.
Like I have one from when I was born that my great aunt made
that I like my how much I weighed and what time of day it
was and whatever. So she's making this.
She's made this piece that says our family has grown by two feet
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and it's 2 footprints and then that verbiage.
I think that's maybe some there was a piece of like a greenery,
like a tree or something, maybe something growing.
And so she's made this thing andI don't remember if she's like
ironing it or what she's doing, but then she's also prepping it
to put into a frame. So she's going to frame it and
give it to Robyn. So she's telling us about how
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this piece is symbolic and that it is a peace offering.
Now, the reason I was saying I was going to start high level
and then dig in is because the vibe of this scene is she's
creating this thing to give to Robyn as a peace offering, as a
whatever. But as she's telling us about
her journey to deciding to do this and what it symbolizes and
what it means, you're right. It is almost manic.
(48:23):
Like she speaks very quickly. There's a lot of words.
There's so many sentences in like a minute time.
There was no, there was only time for her to like, take a
breath and then move on. Like it was so crazy.
I think when it like concluded, as we were watching it, I looked
at you and I went like, it was like, that's how it felt.
(48:47):
It felt like it was just all this shit thrown directly at us
and I can't decide how I feel about it.
I and I couldn't in the moment either because she said a lot of
very like heavy things, like very heavy things.
(49:12):
And so it does lead you to believe one of two things,
right? Like you said, A, she had a
talking to or B, So there's alsothis level of Christine coming
out of having truly, truly is maybe what, a year old at this
(49:33):
point. And so she's gone through her
postpartum and all of this and amove and a new baby and whatever
and a new wife coming into the family and all of these things.
And so there's also just the possibility that with Robyn
having the new baby, that Christina's actually being
(49:56):
reflective on her own behavior and taking some accountability
for it because she. She really was not bla.
She was blaming herself and onlyherself.
And it was, yeah, weird to hear.You're right.
I, I'm not quite sure where the truth lives on that spectrum of
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being directed into feeling shame or guilt versus actually
just feeling shame and guilt. Like, I don't know where the
barometer is on that or where the the needle is.
But she refers to this gift thatshe's making for Robyn as a,
that it's symbolic and that it'sa peace offering.
She talks about her jealousy of Robyn joining the family that
(50:40):
she blamed her for being the favorite.
She blamed Robyn for being the favorite wine.
For taking Kody away from her, Yeah, She behaved like she
wasn't welcome. Right, she had some statements
that were once again like self reflective or told this is what
she was doing. I don't, I don't think this can
(51:01):
be, she was told. This stuff you think she.
Feels I really do, because one of the one of the lines that
made me really believe that she was feeling this was that she
said she will feel terribly if her children do not accept Robyn
as another mother because of what she has done and because of
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her response to it and because of all of this.
And that made me think that like, she really still does want
this, like she wants it to work out right.
And she does want them all to becohesive and I think it was just
a really fucked up time with herbeing pregnant.
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She recently learned. That she's.
Weaning herself off the meds from her postpartum and you that
bullet list you just gave of allthe things that happened in her
life in the last year is a lot. It's a lot, yeah.
But what she is then saying in this statement, in this
reflective moment, she's saying,I know I caused a lot of harm.
I am so sorry. I love salt and I promise to be
(52:14):
better. She is saying all of these
things as if it has literally just been her creating this
problem. Oh yeah, OK.
And I'm like, wow. Yeah.
Now, I think that's an overcompensating of
(52:37):
responsibility. Yeah, I think she still is
allowed to feel the way she felt.
I just think they didn't ever come to great conflict
resolution about it and still continue to not do that ever
over the years. Pretty much is what happens.
Also, as we're talking about it,I'm kind of scratching my head
going like, man, if her relationships with Janelle and
(52:58):
Meri were better, they could have had shared conversations
about this and they could have, you know what I mean?
Like there would have been, I, I'm sure someone like Janelle or
Meri, not Meri. I'm sure if she spoke to Janelle
about this candidly, that Janelle would have been like, I
hear you. I feel the same or something.
Meri does not do that. Meri says you need to get on the
bandwagon. It's the cult thing.
(53:19):
It's the you've got to have the right attitude, otherwise you're
a problem. So I don't know, it just feels
like you're like even the way you're describing it, it's like,
why is she taking this all on asif it's her thing just felt when
it's like that's the situation. It's not Christine's doing that.
This is all happening, you know.I I, I think it is extremely
lovely for people to take accountability for things that
(53:41):
they could have done better. I think to put the
responsibility of the entire situation upon your shoulders as
if you are the only person that had influence on how this went
and how it ended up, That is an unfair burden that she is
putting on herself. She there are other people that
need to also make the situation,namely her fucking husband need
(54:07):
to make the situation comfortable for all and they are
not pulling their weight and that is not her fault.
Yeah, so I, I, it felt a lot. It was awkward.
And I know sometimes we like to give Christine some whatevs, but
this was like, no, I didn't. I didn't think that was fair of
(54:29):
her to do to herself. I just really didn't.
Yeah, I had a hard time gauging it for sure.
And I feel like that in this is in this rewatch, I'm noticing
that more and more with each episode that I have that with
Christine, I'm like, sometimes I'm like, you're a fucking liar.
And then I'm like, but I don't really think she's like lying.
And then I'm but then and I don't trust you, but it's like,
(54:50):
what is she doing this? Not just like I can't.
Yeah, you do. Back and forth.
I. Can't get.
I don't get her. I do not get.
Her I can't say that I do either, but I think I definitely
learn more towards the she's notthe bad guy didn't intentionally
like I just I don't think she can be super calculated.
(55:12):
I think Robyn could be fucking calculated.
I even think Meri can be calculated.
I don't think Christine is supergood at being calculated and I
think Janelle's just smart. So do you know what I mean?
Like. All right, so this seems like a
good place to take a break. We're going to return next week
with the second part of this episode.
Are you excited, Allie? Well, I certainly need a break.
(55:35):
That tracks. Everyone's like ears, everyone's
mind, everyone's heart needs a break.
It's been a lot. Yeah.
So we'll see you next week. Bye.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie, Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
(00:32):
you. The Miracle of Life of
Childbirth. A Sister's Special Delivery is
(00:55):
season 3, episode 12. How are you doing, honey?
I just had a vision of like The Lion King when you said what was
it of life? Miracle of life.
The miracle of life. But then I went through the the
process in my brain because it'sthe circle of The Lion King.
But. The.
(01:16):
The the baby Simba at the Rock, like, you know, and as it turns
out, that's kind of like what happens when this baby is born.
Yes, yes. The tribe, the whatever it's
called, the whole group of animals come to look and go, oh.
Of the King Solomon. Yes, the King's arrived.
(01:38):
Yeah. So I'm glad that that it really
just tied a few things together for me.
Yes. So thank you.
Well, and we took this almost asseriously as we would an
animated cartoon about animals in Africa because it's Sister
Wives. Welcome, everyone.
Thank you for joining us for theseason finale of Season 3.
(01:58):
We do have a surprise coming. Well, not a surprise, but an
interesting episode coming up next, which is a, I'm not sure
if I'm giving it away yet. We'll see.
But sister's special delivery, Robyn's going to give birth to
Solomon. That's what we get in this
episode overall. But of course, we have to have a
few things before that because, well, we do.
(02:22):
We open at Robyn's house and sheis nervous and excited because
you know, she's preggers, she's big, she's ready to pop.
She's having pre labor contractions.
Do you remember what that term is?
Braxton Hicks. I know I'm getting close, she
says. I'm just like, it's it just
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right now, since we're watching season 20 as well, and then
going back to this, I'm like, God, she's so young and
simpleton. Yeah, so simpleton back then.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I guess maybe I no, she's so
simple about. She's like a decade behind
(03:03):
'cause she's like 30 here and itseems like she's 20.
Right, exactly. To me.
Barely above the teenagers, you know, So everything she said was
just like, Yep, I'm excited and I'm nervous and I'm getting
close. And it without the Minnesotan
accent that makes it more adorable and loving, you know,
or lovable. Lovable.
It's lovable, damn it. She did reference joking with
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Meri about being thankful because she was talking about
her morning sickness and all of the issues that she's had with
this. She even says something like,
well, I've been sick up until just recently, like OK, sounds
good. And she says that Meri tells her
to be thankful that at least she's able to have a another
child. So she jokes about texting her
like I'm so thankful for my morning sickness.
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Well, what she said was I can't complain in front of Meri,
right, because Meri will just tell me I have to be grateful.
And so I couldn't tell if that was like a ha ha joke or if it
was a little bit of AI try to besensitive to you.
But sometimes I'm still having my feelings about being sick
(04:08):
about it and blah blah blah, youknow?
Yeah, it definitely started out on that wavelength of the like,
OK, well, I've got a situation going on here too.
But then by the end, I think shewas like, I just have to joke.
It's like, Yep, because you're coming across a certain way, but
that's fine. This is it.
While Robyn is speaking to camera in this in the nursery, I
think she's taking out like a bassinet or a.
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Pack and play. Pack and play.
She's putting together a pack and play and they're doing some
shots of the room and there was this shot of these white Tennys,
these little kids shoes on a on a dresser or whatever.
And I was like, oh, they're justso damn cute.
Those shoes are always so cute. And I said that to you.
I said, Oh my God, those shoes are always so cute.
And you were like, Yep. Well, OK.
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Well, you had the real experience.
I have not. So I just see them and I'm like,
oh, I just want to buy 5000 pairs of them because they're so
fucking you. Do and everybody does and
everybody does. And then as you're packing up
your kids baby clothes, you lookat all of these adorable little
shoes that everybody bought, butyou never put them in them.
They don't walk. All they do is kick those shoes
off other places. You can't put them on their feet
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too tight. You're constantly just trying to
find them and then you go to pack everything up and there's
17 pairs of them that they didn't wear.
And you're like, well, that was great.
Why did we even do this? You know?
So I guess, I guess they're adorable, but they're not
practical. And so it is just for those
photo image E things that they become.
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I had some little Adidas that I was like, these are the cutest
things I've ever seen. Never touched his feet.
Not one single time. And this is it.
It speaks to my inner consumer, my capitalist, because I'm like,
I want to buy them. They're so cute.
Keep growing that economy. Yeah.
And then the inner photographer as well because, yes, you just
want to take pictures. Oh, I just want to take, you
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know, you just want to document them.
They're so cute. Yes.
There is a couch moment with Kody where he's talking about
something. I didn't care what he was
talking about, but his hair was terrible.
And I didn't, you know, I've been not paying attention to his
hair and now all of a sudden I'mlike, it's atrocious.
Like it is just long and whatever it is, like I don't
even know what it is. It's bad.
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So strange. We say that as if there's a
point in time he's gotten it together.
Like where it's good, right? No, just a different level of
bad. In fact, shout out to whoever
left a comment on an episode where we were talking about if
he got his hair cut he would maybe be more attractive.
Someone left a comment this weekon our Spotify being like, well
now I can't listen because they think he would be sexy.
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And it's like, well enjoy your time not listening.
It's like we're not being serious.
First of all, I'm not sold on the fact that he would be
attractive if he cut his hair, but I do know that he would be
far more attractive than he is right now.
Yes, he doesn't have a bad jaw, I know.
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I know, I just thought it was funny 'cause it was like wow,
way to make your statement. Still hate him as a human.
This doesn't change his human qualities, it's just the
outwardly appearance. You know well and you know.
Apologies. Well, I know it's like we do
make fun of his appearance quitea bit, so you're missing out on
that. And every single other aspect.
Of yeah, yeah, totally. We're certainly not a Kody fan
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account. Out on all of that.
Totes like congratulations, goodfor you.
It's. Like this is the wrong power
stance. But yeah, OK, right throughout
the opening of this episode, thefirst act or whatever, we go
through each of the wives homes and kind of this preparation for
the day, for what's happening, alittle bit of a status update.
We start with Janelle's after Robbins, where she's talking
(07:43):
about the move, which is kind ofpart of these overviews of each
house is how the teenagers are doing with the move still.
Maybe that's what Kody was talking about was how the kids
are settling into the yeah, I think that's what, And then they
go through the rundown of each home.
Yep, Yep. So when they start at Janelle's
house, she's talking about Hunter and then Maddie, and she
(08:05):
says Hunter is doing better. It's still not Utah for him.
He's withdrawn and sullen, but he's 14.
He's. 14 Boy, did that resonate.You know, I was like, you're not
going to be able to win regardless, so.
Hunters not the first teenager in the family, but I love how
she's like he's 14, you know, whatever that means because like
(08:26):
literally this statement almost sounds like she doesn't know
what it would mean, but it's more know whatever that means.
Right, because it's unpredictable at best and you're
probably not going to win most of the time.
So she's just settling into the.It's less bad than it was, so
this is good. We obviously ruined his life,
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but we probably would have anyway even if we stayed where
we were totally. Every 14 year olds life gets
ruined at some point. We know this.
Maddie is still engaging with her friends back in Utah and
almost living vicariously through them.
Janelle references that she's texting, she's emailing, she's
on the Internet with them. She's very much engaged with her
(09:09):
friend group back in Utah. And so I don't know is what it
is. Then we transition to
Christine's house and she says that Aspen and Mckelty hated the
move, which we know all the teenagers didn't like the move.
But now Mckelty loves it in Vegas and she has a little
spotlight moment where she's just like, I love it here.
(09:31):
So Mckelty. I don't even know what she said,
but it was so Mckelty. I love Vegas.
Yeah, like. She just really does.
She is totes fine. Yeah, Aspen says that she likes
living there. It's totally fine.
Things are getting better. Christine talks about how Peyton
does not like living there and that he clearly struggled with
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the move a lot. And then they show that footage
of when Kody's like, we're leaving in three days and he
looks shocked and stunned. And it's such a weird flash.
It's such an interesting clip because they use it so much and
it is very dynamic. I mean, he's Kody is saying this
dramatic news and Peyton sittingright next to him.
And so now, from now until the rest, for as long as Peyton is
(10:13):
alive, and then even after. Until after he's dead.
For now, until the end of eternity, there will be footage
of Peyton looking shocked and saddened that he has to leave in
three days when he was like a preteen.
Like terrible. But you know, they have a couch
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moment while Christine is talking about Peyton, where
Robyn says that Peyton has started connecting more with
Dayton, which she's really enjoying.
Christine shares the example of how Dayton could move back to
his dad's place. So went oh, this, this does not
sit well with me. No, but this.
Was all bad. It's that whole thing of like,
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well, Dayton could choose to go live with his father if we don't
treat him well. And then, oh, all of a sudden
Peyton realized, oh, I could lose my brother.
I better be nice to him as how she's saying it.
But it just sucks that we know the root of this is Robyn
bringing it up as a leverage tool to be like, you need to be
nice to my kids. It was a threat.
It was a threat, yeah. And and so, OK, combining
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children and families is complicated, right?
Like, even if it's stepchildren in families and things, now,
this is obviously a little more complicated, but not really.
It's the same kind of thing. You're putting kids together in
families whom have been raised differently, who have different
parents who all of these things.And that is tricky, right?
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Like, that's inherently tricky. Robyn says that Peyton was
harassing and teasing Dayton. Now, I'm not saying that that's
not accurate. That's likely a very accurate
thing that was being done. But also it seems like it's only
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Peyton's fault. And usually there's some level
of some back and forth happening, right?
Like, is it completely unwarranted?
Is it whatever? We don't really hear or see a
lot of it. We did see the clip back of Meri
scolding the kids when they werefighting or whatever.
Not her singling out Peyton in this footage.
Actually, it was to everyone. Correct.
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And I just think that that many kids together are super
complicated and some of them aregoing to be Dicks sometimes.
And yes, you have to address that.
But the way of getting them to fall in line is not threaten
that this kid that just became apart of your family is going to
be torn away by their other parents.
Like, that's not a helpful method of making this
comfortable. And I just, I don't, yeah.
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I don't like how it felt. I don't like it.
It's funny because I don't like how Robyn goes about it.
But also like, I was protective Mama bear in a situation once
where my kids, my kid was aroundother kids and that wasn't super
easy for me either. So I think I'd probably be more
like her in the scenario, you know?
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But like, anyway, I don't know. I don't know.
It felt a little gross. It felt gross that they used a
threat towards Peyton to supposedly get him to understand
it. I feel like that shouldn't have
been what was needed. And I just don't know where they
missed the boat. Well, there's also this
underlying thing. It's weird when talking about
the children because they are kids and when I was 11 or 10 or
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12 or whatever like that footagewould be horrendous and I
wouldn't be able to probably justify it as a an adult and
rationalize it and make it make sense.
Fast forwarding to current day and like Peyton doesn't have
relationships with several siblings because they are like
I'm done with his harassment, I'm done with his cruelty.
So how do you say this about a 10 year old or a 12 however old
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he is? Like this is a pattern that
already exists and. Well, seeing the future paints
it differently, right? Like it's hard to analyze the
moment when you can then see thefuture and if you know that
there was more behind it in the moment, it feels uncomfortable.
But but also we're getting glimpses and pieces and, you
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know, who knows? I also though some of those
moments that come out show that it was pretty clear that some of
the things that caused division between the wives, it wasn't all
just Kody. There are some kid dynamics to
stuff that caused some separation, right?
Like there are times when they tell Meri to stop parenting
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their children and you know, there's division about how kids
do treat each other. And of course moms are going to
take different sides and different ways and excuse
sometimes their own kids behavior and whatever, blah blah
blah. I feel like it's just a bigger
picture of yes, there's a fucking lot of them and it's
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going to be complicated. Yeah, they do wrap up by telling
us, though, that Peyton and Dayton walked to the bus
together in the mornings. Now that because of kind of, I
don't know, I guess because he was shaken up a bit by the
threat of your your new brother could be gone.
He basically has snapped into shape a little bit with the
(15:23):
treatment bit. And they do show footage of him
going over to Robbins before school and he and Dayton going
to get on the bus together. So I guess if you're in that
situation and as a parent, that would be an outcome you'd like
to see, you know, like regardless of how you kind of
have to get there or we don't know every dynamic, we kind of
only get, you know. I'm probably not above
threatening things, right? Like if I knew there was
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something that was going to actually make a difference and
potentially make the thought process change, I yeah, I can't
say I wouldn't use it. And because we only have limited
footage, we really get a lot of the like, parents telling us how
it is as opposed to seeing any real interaction.
I think that's part of the problem is that we're just, and
especially just hearing some of the stuff from Robyn and then
(16:04):
and then Christine having to be like, and then I told him and
maybe and like, anyway, anyway, yeah.
And then we go over to Meri's house.
Meri. Meri quite contrary her house.
Oh, she tells us that Leon is still struggling and talks about
faking having a good attitude but isn't happy.
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And I can see that Leon definitely has the vibe of like
I was raised by a person who requires me to have a good
attitude even if I am not happy.Yeah, I don't identify it all.
Well, also like hiding some of their own shit too.
Like not, I don't want to say hiding, figuring out some of
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their own shit. Like feeling like you're faking
it isn't necessarily just about the place that you've moved to,
right? It's, it's a lot of things that
you're trying to figure out withwho you are and who you're going
to become. And I thought that was kind of a
like, there was probably a lot more happening behind the scenes
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in that than just the move that was taking.
Yes, yeah. My gut is telling me it's a lot
about it's in the framework of being raised by Meri in Meri's
household. I honestly think that has a big
part of it. I there's some parallels with
like how I was raised with how Meri runs her household.
And there is an element of like,you're going to have a good
(17:32):
attitude, it doesn't matter. So, you know, Leon's being
interviewed in the bathroom, andthere's this moment where they
say they met Robyn at a dance with Meri, which parallels
somewhat with the book that we've read where Meri references
meeting Robyn at a dance. Even though some people are
like, did that really happen? Like, it's all over the place.
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But Leon thought that Robyn would be Meri and Kody even when
they first met Robyn. So I'm curious if that means
like there was some storytellinghappening from Meri in the
moment because how does your intuition say, I bet my dad's
going to marry this person when you meet them?
Like there has to be have been something going on.
I think that sometimes you're super observant of what's taking
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place and I think that they probably saw Meri and Kody
having this because it kind of rejuvenated their relationship a
little bit to consider having a new wife come into the family.
And I'm sure Leon was witness to.
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And even that one weird moment where Meri's being all weird
like at the wedding and stuff, you know, and like, oh, I'm
thinking all of these things andthey pan out and Leon's like
right there or whatever. Don't you remember like tying
the tie at the wedding or something?
I just feel like Leon likely sawa lot of that parent behavior
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act like just. Mom and dad are connecting in
the way about this thing that I don't see them doing any.
Correct. Yeah, correct.
That that's that's where my words were trying to go.
And I I I think that it was obvious.
Amen. Like my my parents have an
enthusiasm about a person. Like what is this?
And Meri was totally, you know, fawning over Robyn and just, you
(19:27):
know, all the things and look atpretty she had a.
Crush on Robyn just like Kody did.
Well, but they don't go weird. They don't go weird maybe.
They should. Have they should have gone
weird? Meri should still go weird.
That's what's going on with Meri.
She needs to dip her toe in the lady pond and just see what
that's like. Because if she likes it, then
that's great. And if she doesn't, then she
doesn't. But you know, when your thing, a
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requirement of a man is that he's over 6-2 and that's your
requirement, It's like, girl, doyou really have an interest in
men? Because like, I don't know.
But you'll hear more about that from us in our rewatches of the
Season 20 episodes. So Kody brings Robyn to visit
the midwife, April at her office.
We don't get to see her laying on a leather couch, I don't
think unfortunately, which I waslooking forward to, but I
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couldn't tell what she was laying on.
I guess it didn't really distract me in a negative way
are. You sure?
I think she was on a leather. Couch.
Was she on the leather couch? Yeah, damn it.
I'm like, are you serious? Yeah, she probably was.
Fuck, her belly was out and thenthey panned back and she pulled
up like the elastic and she was on the black leather couch in
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the fucking. Room.
That's right. She was sorry she had to pull
those stretch pants up over thatbelly.
Yeah, yeah. I was like.
So fucking comfortable though. Best pants ever.
Amen. I also it's interesting to see
this much skin on Robyn because it's like, OK, interesting.
Interesting is a way to put. It well, you know no shame about
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actually seeing it it's more about the like aren't you
supposed to be wearing your garments like why are you
actually This is why my theoriesof them not even being religious
at this point they're they're falling out of their faith in me
like so much they. Rarely speak of it at this.
Yeah. It's only if they need content
filler basically, don't you think?
(21:18):
Yeah, if they're running low on ideas and they need to do
another church service at home, then we'll then we'll talk about
it. Yeah.
But otherwise, no. Robyn's exposing her body parts
on the television. Almost.
Or who had the very end? Well, this we almost saw some
cooter. Yes, we saw.
Comedy's hand inside it, that was nice, yeah.
It was, but that's anyway it's still to come.
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You. April tells them that they
should make an appointment for next week, and nothing is
concerning at this point. Solomon's very comfortable in
there and there's no more room to grow, so he'll come out when
he can. I believe at this time they are
a week and 1/2 from her due date.
So you know, very close yet not quite there.
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They they discuss how this is a bonding moment for the whole
family. This baby of hers gets to
connect the whole family and really cement her in there
solidly, you know? Yeah, He's got a big job,
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Solomon. Well, isn't there an element of
truth to that though, with families coming together and
then like oftentimes a newborn really does kind of cement some
things? I I feel like if we were to look
statistically, it's probably 5050 as to whether that cement
something or it makes. It makes it worse, Sure, sure.
Right, like in real life reality, yeah, I I think there
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are times it probably does for the right families in this
stuff, but I think for others it's like, Nope.
Oh God, wrong choice. While they're leaving, Kody
tells Robyn that she looks vibrant and that maybe she
should just have the baby tonight.
And then she smiled at him and the way she smiled at him, I was
like, this may be the least attractive I've ever seen her.
(23:05):
Like, not that she not because she's big and pregnant, but the
way that her face was looking inthe gesture she was making.
I'm like, this is vibrant to you?
She looked like a Teenage MutantNinja Turtle, but instead of
green, she was white. Like I'm like, what's going on
here? I think she's really fucking
annoyed with him. That's what's going on there.
I think she's really fucking annoyed by everything, Kody.
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But she can't say it right because we don't say that.
No, got to be thankful for that morning sickness and you got a
smile for Kody. Then this demon baby about to
come out of my Hoo ha. Demon baby.
There's a couch moment with someof the teenagers and Hunter.
This was a lot. Yeah, well, there was plenty
(23:49):
said and plenty probably left unsaid.
Implied. Yeah, Hunter thinks they already
have enough kids, maybe even toomany kids already.
More than they can handle. More than they can handle.
So his perspective, and to be fair, I mean his face is reading
like he's not maybe being the most sensitive or whatever.
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He's in his feels. He's mad, he's annoyed, he's
frustrated, and he's like, we already have too many kids
anyway. I don't know.
Maddie is questioning things just kind of in general, like
along the same wavelength but a little less, you know, negative.
I would say probably just like, well, I don't really know.
I mean, how are you supposed to know?
And like, we do have a lot of kids and I don't really know.
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Am I really happy? I don't know.
I don't know, like that. It was a lot of, I don't know.
Yes, all of these things seem tobe pretty reasonable.
They're not exactly shining a pretty light like the Rose
colored glasses that Christine would like or the delusions that
Robyn loves, but it's just real thoughts and feelings and
opinions coming from these kids.And then you jump in with Leon
(24:56):
doing the classic called Raised by Meri response, which is, you
know, you need to love them likethey're your brother, Like I
already love him. They're like you already love
him. Like doesn't even make sense.
And Leon says, well, don't you love him?
And it's like, this is the guiltthing.
It's the, you know, we're supposed to feel this way.
Regardless of what you're reallyfeeling.
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This is what we're supposed to feel.
Cult cult cult cult cult traditional family values,
repression. I'm familiar I I wasn't raised
in a cult but. I'm like, come on.
But I do think, yes, Leon was raised in a cult and yes, that
(25:40):
could be part of their, you know, response and openness to
this. However, just in general, in any
family, you're going to have some kids that are like, I can't
wait for this little baby. And I love him already so much.
And I'm just, Oh my God. And then you're going to have
other kids that are like, I don't need that new baby.
Yeah. So I don't I don't inherently
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think it's any different than another family welcoming an
additional sibling, especially from like I, I, I don't know why
I'm harkening this family to like step parenty kind of stuff
because it kind of is at this. Point.
It feels like it with Robyn. Because she brought kids in.
But this is a little different. And yeah, I think they still
kind of look at it as step parenty.
(26:22):
So goes both ways. Yeah, you know, definitely
conditioning, though. In the call to, you are supposed
to have a good, you are supposedto be thankful.
This is a blessing. 150% Also though, I'm sorry I keep pushing
back on you about this so much. Amen.
I think that there's the culty part of it, but I also think
(26:44):
that there's the Meri and Leon both know that they wish they
had been able to have an additional sibling and, or child
and or whatever. So they are looking at this
like, well, I'm going to look atit as that for us too, and
having somebody that we're closeenough to that maybe this can
really be great for us too. And so I don't, again, I'm not
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saying the cult don't play a part, but that totally makes
sense. I think that there's levels to
it that are different for for them specifically and why
they're handling it a little bitdifferently than like even
Janelle and Christine and their kids.
Yes, that and we see that with both Leon and Meri throughout
the episode. Yes, cut to Meri telling us that
they're going to go look at properties for a fitness center.
(27:31):
With Bill, their new business partner, Bill.
Hey, Bill. Bill, when they're talking about
it, there's this moment where Christine is talking about
owning a gym. But now I'm going to continue to
say fitness center because firstof all, have I ever called the
gym a fitness center? Probably not.
(27:51):
Have I referred? To you work in a hotel.
You call it a fitness. Center.
Oh see OK, so the I understand that it is what you could call a
gym is a fitness center. But I wouldn't call a gym a
fitness center. Well, it just doesn't like roll
off the tongue like. Oh, I just choose to.
Say fitness center like no. And she just keeps saying it and
then she's like says something about how do you remember what
(28:14):
she actually said? I do OK.
What did she actually say? Because she was like, you know,
I'm really excited about this business and I think it's going
to be great for us. But also I just, I'm struggling
because there's this feeling like, you know, they look at us
like we do not look like gym owners, like, oh, look at us.
Yeah, yeah. And, well, it's true.
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True. Yeah, it was.
It's just weird because this is what the show does to us.
So we're talking about this babycoming and then all of a sudden
it's like, remember they're opening a fitness center.
Like OK, bam, that's right, it'sin our face.
And Kody tells us that he wants to open the fitness center in
six months 6. Months, six months, we don't
(28:55):
even have a building, but in sixmonths we will have this
business. I'm sure they've worked out all
the financing and everything already.
Well, Bill introduced them to that part.
A potential business partner who, what's his name, Blank
check for you. But you know, we don't know.
We don't have any of those real details.
We just know now we're going to go look at buildings and
(29:17):
randomly Mona's going to show up.
Wait. Before Mona get.
Well, maybe it's right as Mona shows up, but they're talking
about the names. The names, yes.
So they're outside after this couch moment, they transition to
footage of them outside of like a strip mallish thing.
And they say something about there was some sort of store
that was closing that they were walking in front of him.
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Kody's like, well, it didn't have enough square footage,
blah, blah, blah. And so they're just kind of
showing us they're transitioningfrom the couch to them looking
at actual properties and then they're talking about the title,
but they're not really telling us they're going to talk about
it. He just starts saying fitness
fundamentalists and starts laughing.
And they're like, stop. It's fundamental fitness, which
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is not. Any better?
Which I'm going, I know, right? It's like, first of all, both of
these suck. And inherently, if you're
starting a business and you justkeep saying the wrong name, then
that probably means you don't have the right name.
They don't know. What they're doing, we know.
They don't know. What they're doing, we know.
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They don't know what. They're doing.
They just give us all these examples of them not knowing
what they're doing. I know this is it.
So yes, Mona shows up. Hey, Mona, Like, nice.
Nice to see you again. She's going to help them find
this property. Kody was really excited because
it was a ritzy strip mall next to a daycare center.
(30:44):
Now, I actually think the placement next to a daycare
center is not inherently bad. Maybe for marketing purposes or
whatever, but they're never going to open a gym.
What are we talking about? Waste of time and breath.
I feel so bad because at the time I sent them a check for
$40,000 and I said I want to be an investor.
Oh, don't you wish you had that back, I mean.
(31:09):
Well, I mean. That's why I've learned to not
send checks for $40,000 to people.
The random polygamous. Anymore, especially the cult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but sometimes it's
hard to tell it's a cult or not so.
I was just very enthused by their.
You bought into their multi level marketing.
Center by the I Thought Fitness Center.
(31:30):
Oh my gosh, I've got to invest. So what's funny?
And I've had to learn this too, but it's not just that we can
invest in the fitness center, sowe have to visit it too.
Oh. We actually, they'll use it.
Well, us, yes, but they like even Meri's like well, we're
going to have to use it. It's like you don't open a gym
because you need to go. You already have a gym
membership and you have admittedly not participated.
(31:53):
But even Tamara Barney, you know, in her bodybuilding
fitness competition, still her gym went on her.
Yeah, yeah. I mean.
It's not. Just because you go to your own.
Gym, reality TV celebrities. Unfortunately, I'm.
Going to open a gym because I need to go to.
Home maybe for us. We should open a gym this
listeners, if you would like to send me an e-mail at Redacted
(32:17):
then I would be happy to get youan address where you can send a
$40,000 check and you can investin our fitness.
It's called be a deadbeat loser here at this gym or some stupid
name. Pleasehave0expectations@gmail.com
Yeah, you know. Definitely at Gmail.
No actual real domains, just at Gmail.
Also. At I will never.
(32:38):
Be.reimbursed.721@gmail.com. Yeah, you have to check a box
that's like I nothing will ever come.
From real donation, yes. Not an investment, just a
donation. A donation.
Well, as they're wrapping up thescene, they're walking away and
I just think it's funny and thisis sometimes I'm a little judge
(33:00):
mental sometimes. And as they're walking away, I
forgot for a second that Robyn was pregnant and I was like 4
fat wives making this fucking gym.
I was like, this is literally because it's hot off the heels.
Of course, Christine being like,what did you say?
That's what she just said. But then it like dawned on me.
(33:20):
I'm like, Oh my God, as they're walking through the parking lot,
I'm like, no, absolutely not. And then I was like, well, it is
only three fat wives and a pregnant wife, so that's a
little different. She gets fat too though, as we
all do, I mean. She got a little thicker, yes.
Come on. I know, I know so, and this is
the reason I I can say fat 'cause I'm fat.
(33:42):
I'm fucking fat. I was.
Super skinny at 30 post divorce that did not didn't, shouldn't
last, shouldn't last. Shouldn't last.
I was skinny when I was 32. That's the last season.
Oh, good times. So after I judged the wives
cruelly and harshly for their BMI, we transitioned to the
(34:03):
wives going out to lunch. They started doing this a few
months ago because they weren't spending time together.
Oh, which, you know, as a family, you know, you usually
have to see each other. So there's that.
You were brushing right past thebeginning of this scene because
they all arrived at Robyn's house to go to this lunch and as
(34:25):
they arrived, Robyn was sitting in her African nursery.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
And she had my blanket. Yes, she had this blanket.
Ali, I'm so sorry, listeners, I apologize to you.
And Ally, I apologize to you for.
You should for most. I was very affected by it as we
were watching because then I hadto pause and think what the fuck
(34:48):
happened to that blanket becauseI loved it.
It was beautiful. I'm going to, I'm going to say
dark purple blanket with like like a woven something.
It had a little bit of neon pop of color in it, though some like
green and some maybe a little bit of orange or teal.
(35:12):
Not a lot of color, not a lot ofcolor, but it was super cute and
like long fringes at the end. Probably a Target purchase, if
I'm guessing, to be honest. Like, this is not, Yeah, I mean,
but I loved it. And I was like, what happened?
I'm pretty sure like a dog threwup on it.
And I was like, I will not, yeah, try to clean this.
(35:34):
It is just going directly in thetrash can because it was
probably about 1999 or something, you know, not the
year, the dollar amount, and so the $20 blanket was not worth.
Like this one I can just throw away.
Yeah, I usually do that. Yeah, that's an.
Option you know. But then it was so wonderful
that you got to have this momentof reliving your memories with
(35:56):
that blanket through Robyn. Her African nursery and it did
harken back to my African basement that we had discussed,
right. And so I think that blanket was
purchased for that basement. Anyway, so many similarities
between the libras here. I hate this.
I hate it so much just. Kind of rub that in God.
(36:17):
Damn it. But it was great.
They're literally Ally was like I had that blanket.
Well, and then I made Chris go rewind because I was like, I
just started thinking way too long about the blanket, I missed
the show, whatever. Happened.
Please go back. Listen, if I saw a blanket that
I had 15 years ago, I would be like, what did happen to that
blanket still? Exists.
Someday we'll find it. Yes, with the holidays coming
(36:40):
up, maybe you'll discover it while you're looking for your
Christmas decor. It's probably packing in my
something or. Yeah, yeah, there was this, this
blanket moment, and I'm sorry for skipping over.
It I thank you for acknowledgingit.
But then the wives are telling us that they are going to these
lunches on a monthly basis for aweek.
(37:01):
I don't I don't think they tell us, but they started it.
They just. Don't see each other that much.
They don't see each other that much, as you know, family
members don't, I guess, but they're supposed to.
I don't know. They talk about reconnecting
during these lunches. I feel like in a recent rewatch
there was like reference to how they don't do things, which is
why they went out on the strip. So this is like a thing like I
wonder if it's they're recognizing it or if it's more
(37:24):
production driven. And doesn't Christine kind of
note some of that in her book that like things, certain things
were really driven just to film?Like otherwise they didn't
actually see each. Other they would only see each
other for productions. And so that totally makes sense
Also, you know, yes, you should see family.
(37:46):
But as we know, life is life. And like, weeks and months can
go by, like, in the blink of an eye, right?
Yeah. But you're sharing a husband.
Yeah, it's not like you're not the same.
It's not your sibling who lives out of state, correct?
It's your sister. Wife, one that lives 30.
Minutes away. A block away.
Is different, yeah. You're sharing a husband with
(38:09):
this man, and part of the reasonyou're sharing a husband is for
the community that said cult shit is supposed to bring you.
Yes. And I really feel like when they
don't have that, that's when they lose it all.
That literally is when it all falls apart.
And it makes me scratch my head because I'm like, y'all are
(38:30):
signing up for an eternity together.
Like this is the goal is that you can get into a celestial
Kingdom and live together forever.
But in this current life right here, right now, you live a
block away from each other. Meri lives a mile.
Like each other. They don't even spend time
together, they only do because they have to for production.
Just wait until we get to Christine's apology tour in a
(38:52):
minute. Well, it's just.
Well, I mean, it's just bizarre.I just, you have to question the
rationale, the logic of someone who thinks I want to spend
eternity with these people like it just does.
I don't even know whatever you would hope you would want to
spend eternity with people you like.
I guess I don't know. I I think it's just maybe that
(39:14):
we're setting the bar a bit too fucking high.
Don't you like we are No they. Are they are?
Like we they, we are setting thebar too high.
Like we're going to live our life together for all the time.
No, maybe like, you know, it's kind of like a a right?
Like one day at a time. I just just don't make any crazy
(39:35):
celestial promises. Just get through one day at a.
Time, which is the point of the whole thing.
Which is why it's so weird. It makes no sense.
Are we crazy? Are they?
Crazy both, but they're crazy ina weird way.
We're just crazy. We're just crazy in a normal
way. That's fine, I'm having.
(40:00):
All of a sudden, the screen, theleg Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo.
Like technical difficulties. Robyn tells us that she's never
had Sister Wives before, which we know.
Is that what she said? Well, she said that to the
wives. She was like, you know, I've
never had sister wives before. OK, what do you want me to call
you in the middle of the night if the.
Oh, no, no, no. Oh, I am rushing past an
(40:22):
important detail. Oh, OK.
Ali, I apologize. Can you tell our listeners what
it is that Robyn tells the wivesas they're sitting at this
lunch? Well, I've never had sister
Wives before. There's like a this drawn out
because she's so awkward about every single thing she does.
(40:45):
So the the question that followsis completely appropriate.
But what is ridiculous is how stupid she says.
Yes, yes. Never had sister wise before.
When you're giving your credit with the R on the on the sister,
it was there was no R. No, it was Y.
It was Sista. Sista wise.
(41:08):
Like. I was struggling to get there
because it was just so. Disturbed.
According to Robyn, there's no Rin sister.
So lovely. Wives.
She's just a mess. She's wondering.
But I do understand the clarifying.
Call you in the middle of the night because I'm going to be
giving birth to your husband's child.
Yes, and I would feel like that's an OK question to ask
(41:30):
because you don't want to assumethat you should, but you also
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
So I am going to give her five bonus points.
Interesting, now we're giving bonus points.
I'm like for a what? Excuse our mess, we're cleaning
up. No more bonus points.
(41:52):
Oh my God. I'm.
Yeah, in reality, I am sure mostplural marriages, especially if
the wives don't live together, they don't actually see the
child the night that they're born.
Like this is not normal. It is actually not.
Normal. No.
I'd like to hear from others. I'd like to hear from others.
Well, the ones that I've heard from online are like, no, like,
you don't travel in the middle of the night to go visit your
(42:13):
sister, wife who just gave birth.
Like, generally. Now, you're right.
It's probably a gambit. It's probably all over the
board. So she's asking.
Christine says yes, that she would like to come over, but
then they don't give anybody else's responses.
We do hear from them later. Like, we circle back to what
their things are. They're just kind of teeing it
up at this luncheon. And then there's this back and
forth and it lands where Meri's talking about her birthing
(42:37):
experience with Leon. And it comes up that Kody, after
she gave birth, she was like, I didn't know if Leon was a boy or
a girl. I didn't know anything.
And Kody said, it's a boy. And the midwife says that's the
umbilical cord. This is so great on so many
(42:59):
levels, but truly given Leon's journey in gender transitioning
and wherever status they are right now, I don't even want to
lay claim on it as if I know because Leon is a very private
person now and doesn't share a lot of things with the public
and so I want to respect their privacy and all of that.
(43:19):
But the notion, it still is funny.
That. Born Born a female at birth and
then dad thought. What thought the penis was
coming from the belly button? I just the first.
Time I've heard this isn't this.Maybe it's more of a joke.
(43:41):
He was no. I mean also they're young and
dumb, right? It's like young and dumb.
But haven't other men thought this?
Or is it literally like a stupidmistake?
Fuck, I don't know. I don't.
I don't want to know that much about what men think, right?
And I mean, it's just very obvious that that's not where
your genitals are going to be. No, but you know, I have read
(44:01):
some disturbing shit on the Internet about what men and do
and do not know. So, you know, like it's.
If you can keep that on the Internet, we don't need to have
it on our pocket. Yes.
Literally don't. Literally don't.
But but people, educate your sons, OK?
Right, their penis is not actually in their belly button.
(44:21):
And also like so many anyway, donot get literally do not get me
started. OK, so they had gone through,
you know, call me in the middle of the night or don't call me
whatever this is at their luncheon, right?
And Christine also gives Robyn some tidbits about how Kody is
(44:44):
actually super helpful during labour, like he knows really
good pressure points and whatever, which if he truly does
Amen. Like I'm sure that's super
wonderful in the moment. Don't know, never had it, but
wouldn't that be nice? And so she goes on about this.
Meri kind of then had said, yeah, I don't have that much
experience because Christine andJanelle have both gone through 6
(45:09):
births with Kody. Meri has only gone through 1.
So she then shares the story of Leon's birthright.
Now at the end of that lunch, Robyn is sitting there, and in
true disgusting Robyn fashion, she's like, well, girls, it's
(45:30):
because of you that I've got, you know, such a great man here
to be with me and help me birth my baby.
And that's how they buttoned up that little segment there.
And I was just disgusted. Yeah, it's not that It's not
true. This is it.
I just hate the way that she frames girls.
(45:51):
And thank thankfully, you delivered me my perfect husband.
It's just not. She just doesn't know how to do
it. She never knows how to do it,
ever. Not one.
Single time. This is not the first time that
she's laid this out. Disgusting.
Like, wow, you made this man perfect for me.
Like, yeah, all of the times we've struggled and all of our
(46:12):
shit and you get the benefit quote, UN quote.
Right. Gross.
Right. This next scene in Christine's
bedroom or in a bedroom in Christine's house, Oh, it's a
lot. It's a lot.
It's like heavy and weird and strange.
Also listeners, just so you know.
(46:32):
She talks. She says a lot like I.
Feel like it's manic. I feel like this was like a
manic. I.
Moment. I suspect that she was given a
talking to by Kody. I think she was reprimanded in
some way because the way that she goes through this where
(46:53):
overall, like let's I'll give anoverall and then we'll jump into
the details. She is creating a handmade piece
of artwork I guess that you would frame.
Is it stitch embroidery? What is that called?
It may be something like cross strip, so we can say terms like
cross stitch, hand stitch, embroidery, blah blah blah.
(47:15):
It's some sort of cloth cross. Stitch that's.
Probably that has, yeah, like threads or yarn or something
where you create a pattern, you create a visual words, pictures.
Like I have one from when I was born that my great aunt made
that I like my how much I weighed and what time of day it
was and whatever. So she's making this.
She's made this piece that says our family has grown by two feet
(47:39):
and it's 2 footprints and then that verbiage.
I think that's maybe some there was a piece of like a greenery,
like a tree or something, maybe something growing.
And so she's made this thing andI don't remember if she's like
ironing it or what she's doing, but then she's also prepping it
to put into a frame. So she's going to frame it and
give it to Robyn. So she's telling us about how
(48:00):
this piece is symbolic and that it is a peace offering.
Now, the reason I was saying I was going to start high level
and then dig in is because the vibe of this scene is she's
creating this thing to give to Robyn as a peace offering, as a
whatever. But as she's telling us about
her journey to deciding to do this and what it symbolizes and
what it means, you're right. It is almost manic.
(48:23):
Like she speaks very quickly. There's a lot of words.
There's so many sentences in like a minute time.
There was no, there was only time for her to like, take a
breath and then move on. Like it was so crazy.
I think when it like concluded, as we were watching it, I looked
at you and I went like, it was like, that's how it felt.
(48:47):
It felt like it was just all this shit thrown directly at us
and I can't decide how I feel about it.
I and I couldn't in the moment either because she said a lot of
very like heavy things, like very heavy things.
(49:12):
And so it does lead you to believe one of two things,
right? Like you said, A, she had a
talking to or B, So there's alsothis level of Christine coming
out of having truly, truly is maybe what, a year old at this
(49:33):
point. And so she's gone through her
postpartum and all of this and amove and a new baby and whatever
and a new wife coming into the family and all of these things.
And so there's also just the possibility that with Robyn
having the new baby, that Christina's actually being
(49:56):
reflective on her own behavior and taking some accountability
for it because she. She really was not bla.
She was blaming herself and onlyherself.
And it was, yeah, weird to hear.You're right.
I, I'm not quite sure where the truth lives on that spectrum of
(50:19):
being directed into feeling shame or guilt versus actually
just feeling shame and guilt. Like, I don't know where the
barometer is on that or where the the needle is.
But she refers to this gift thatshe's making for Robyn as a,
that it's symbolic and that it'sa peace offering.
She talks about her jealousy of Robyn joining the family that
(50:40):
she blamed her for being the favorite.
She blamed Robyn for being the favorite wine.
For taking Kody away from her, Yeah, She behaved like she
wasn't welcome. Right, she had some statements
that were once again like self reflective or told this is what
she was doing. I don't, I don't think this can
(51:01):
be, she was told. This stuff you think she.
Feels I really do, because one of the one of the lines that
made me really believe that she was feeling this was that she
said she will feel terribly if her children do not accept Robyn
as another mother because of what she has done and because of
(51:26):
her response to it and because of all of this.
And that made me think that like, she really still does want
this, like she wants it to work out right.
And she does want them all to becohesive and I think it was just
a really fucked up time with herbeing pregnant.
(51:47):
She recently learned. That she's.
Weaning herself off the meds from her postpartum and you that
bullet list you just gave of allthe things that happened in her
life in the last year is a lot. It's a lot, yeah.
But what she is then saying in this statement, in this
reflective moment, she's saying,I know I caused a lot of harm.
I am so sorry. I love salt and I promise to be
(52:14):
better. She is saying all of these
things as if it has literally just been her creating this
problem. Oh yeah, OK.
And I'm like, wow. Yeah.
Now, I think that's an overcompensating of
(52:37):
responsibility. Yeah, I think she still is
allowed to feel the way she felt.
I just think they didn't ever come to great conflict
resolution about it and still continue to not do that ever
over the years. Pretty much is what happens.
Also, as we're talking about it,I'm kind of scratching my head
going like, man, if her relationships with Janelle and
(52:58):
Meri were better, they could have had shared conversations
about this and they could have, you know what I mean?
Like there would have been, I, I'm sure someone like Janelle or
Meri, not Meri. I'm sure if she spoke to Janelle
about this candidly, that Janelle would have been like, I
hear you. I feel the same or something.
Meri does not do that. Meri says you need to get on the
bandwagon. It's the cult thing.
(53:19):
It's the you've got to have the right attitude, otherwise you're
a problem. So I don't know, it just feels
like you're like even the way you're describing it, it's like,
why is she taking this all on asif it's her thing just felt when
it's like that's the situation. It's not Christine's doing that.
This is all happening, you know.I I, I think it is extremely
lovely for people to take accountability for things that
(53:41):
they could have done better. I think to put the
responsibility of the entire situation upon your shoulders as
if you are the only person that had influence on how this went
and how it ended up, That is an unfair burden that she is
putting on herself. She there are other people that
need to also make the situation,namely her fucking husband need
(54:07):
to make the situation comfortable for all and they are
not pulling their weight and that is not her fault.
Yeah, so I, I, it felt a lot. It was awkward.
And I know sometimes we like to give Christine some whatevs, but
this was like, no, I didn't. I didn't think that was fair of
(54:29):
her to do to herself. I just really didn't.
Yeah, I had a hard time gauging it for sure.
And I feel like that in this is in this rewatch, I'm noticing
that more and more with each episode that I have that with
Christine, I'm like, sometimes I'm like, you're a fucking liar.
And then I'm like, but I don't really think she's like lying.
And then I'm but then and I don't trust you, but it's like,
(54:50):
what is she doing this? Not just like I can't.
Yeah, you do. Back and forth.
I. Can't get.
I don't get her. I do not get.
Her I can't say that I do either, but I think I definitely
learn more towards the she's notthe bad guy didn't intentionally
like I just I don't think she can be super calculated.
(55:12):
I think Robyn could be fucking calculated.
I even think Meri can be calculated.
I don't think Christine is supergood at being calculated and I
think Janelle's just smart. So do you know what I mean?
Like. All right, so this seems like a
good place to take a break. We're going to return next week
with the second part of this episode.
Are you excited, Allie? Well, I certainly need a break.
(55:35):
That tracks. Everyone's like ears, everyone's
mind, everyone's heart needs a break.
It's been a lot. Yeah.
So we'll see you next week. Bye.
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