Sister Wives S3 E2 - Teen Sex Talk - My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You.
Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
Do not. Make me a victim, sweetie.
Just look at the mountain. That's what you saw.
That day, just the knife in the kidneys over all these years and
the sacrifices that I made to love you.

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Let's talk about sex, baby. Let's talk about you and me.
Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that
may be. Let's talk about sex.
Let's talk about sex. Well, that's what Kody Brown was
thinking when he said I'm going to talk about sex with my
teenagers and we get to experience that here on Season 3

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Episode 2 of Sister Wives Teen Sex Talk.
So I was excited right off the bat.
Yeah. I mean, it was kind of a let
down in that sense, but. In a recent recording I was I
was talking about how often I'd been turned on by Sister Wives,
and I'm going to have to add this to the list.
No, in a recent episode you werequestioned about how often

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that's right turned on watching the show.
That is more accurate, yes, And I had no denials of anything
true. You said some things, I'm not
sure they were true coupon. And those lady dresses?
Hot moments. Now let's add this to the list.
Teen sex talk. And it's just full of beautiful
moments, as always. Well.

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We start out on the couch and weare told by Kody that they're
settled in and things are they're moving along now that
they're in Vegas and they're in their rentals.
They've been there several months.
Yeah, yeah, I guess that's the status update.
That's that status update. They're going to go to TMI Real
Estate, which I love. TMI like too much information.

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That would be right for Mona. She's like, I'm going to tell
you too much information. And I love yeah, TMI.
Oh God. And the branding's like neon
green or something. It's just.
TMI. Choices.
Well, they're talking about going to visit Mona at TMI.
Janelle is saying that there's something that her and Christine

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could be trading off with their schedules if they were
interested in real estate and ifthis was going to work out for
them. Which is wonderful that they've
put some thought into their schedules and how much they're
going to have to do with real estate.
You know, Kody also mentions that Mona had recommend he'd get
into real estate for the longesttime.
Oh, of course, she was just sureof his abilities.

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For as long as she's known him, she said, you should be in real
estate. And she also said that while she
was selling him multiple homes so or renting him at this point
she's still continuing that relationship which is why she's
still licking his ass. Yeah, yeah.
About how he'd be so good in real estate.
Oh well, with his sales background, it's just a perfect

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alignment. Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, so Kody and Janelle and Christine meet Mona at the
office, and Mona asks where's Meri and Robyn?
Which I thought was great 'causeit's like she didn't know they
were coming. Like interesting.
And, and they give this kind of like, well, they're just not as

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interested in this as we are. And it's like, what?
Maybe that's not the right explanation, but then Robyn or
sorry Kody, Kody has to talk about Robyn's morning sickness
and that's why she's not there. Robyn's just too sick to even
think about working still so. What a way to phrase that.

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Oopsie, oops. Robyn couldn't possibly come to
a meeting where we could discussopportunities to make money.
That would just be ridiculous. I'm just too.
I'll. Wow, that's good.
That's good. Whoopsie.
Christine asks a question about is this the right time for us to
get into real estate? The the economy in Vegas is not

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doing so great? Like, is this really a worthy
investment of our time? Yeah, she's curious about the
market, and Mona lets her know that this is a great time.
So Mona's suggesting that they take an apprentice approach
where they could learn some things from her.
In the meantime, while they do their schooling, which is going
to end up being six weeks roughly to get a license.
She verifies that they can do itonline from home.

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All the schooling, all the testing.
And don't you worry that market it is a stabilizing.
It is stabilizing. Vegas is a great market right
now. Yeah.
And so they're going to help Mona with setting up an open
house because it's a great firstrun, a dry run, a practice run.
Let's see if these people could even help with something like
that. And that makes sense.
Good place to start. And it goes great.

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Just in case you're wondering. So Kody then he doesn't use
Janelle's same words. He doesn't say finite resources,
but he does say their resources are wearing then and they need
some cash, basically. He doesn't say those words.
No, he should have just quoted Janelle.

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She's been teeing it up for longenough.
I mean, they have finite resources.
This is something we all know onthe couch.
Christine talks about looking for business opportunities just
kind of broadly like, oh, we're looking for business
opportunities And I'm like, so Christine, I don't want to say
that she doesn't know anything about business.
That's not fair to say. But, you know, they really teed
her up as the, like, stay at home wife and like, we know

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things about her from the book and like other things, some more
about her background. But really, it's kind of like,
oh, so Christine is now leading this charge.
The way they're teeing it up is like she's just wondering what
they could be doing to make somemoney in this economy.
Well, she's been a part of theseconversations, you know, but I
don't know what she's bringing to the table yet.
However, no offense, Christine, It's just not.

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It's just not your wheelhouse right now, right?
Later on in life, like today, yeah, that might be your
wheelhouse she's on. The more successful half of the
family today, but not then. It was not back then, yeah.
So, So what I loved was Janelle was also discussing this
potential family business and about how it's so much more

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complicated than just like a, you know, a normal small
business, a mom and pop shop because it's a mom and a mom and
a mom and a mom and a pop. Yeah.
And I thought that was fucking phenomenal.
Yeah, it did draw a pretty clearpicture.
Well, I didn't have any more questions after Janelle
succinctly let us know. It did paint it, yes, very

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accurately. Some nice strokes from Janelle
on that painting. It totally made sense when
they're talking about how they're going to be helping out
Mona, they're discussing this with Mona and Kody.
He's all so dumb. Oh my God.
It's. So dumb like Mona.
'S immediately, like can we justfind you fucking houses so I
don't have to talk to you again?Like that's what Mona is

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thinking this entire time. I'm also hoping that she's
thinking like, OK, this is camera time.
Like I'm here, I'm showing up for filming like that could also
be helpful for her. But.
I want to understand her return on investment.
Well, that would be interesting.Mona.
Yeah. Mona, can you hear me?
Mona, if you're out. There we need to reach out to

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Mona, we need to have our peoplereach out to Mona's people
because she would be an interesting guest.
Be fun to hear her story. We should find some people then.
We have to find some people thatcould be our people.
Once we find some people, they'll reach out to your
people. Yeah, once we have some people.

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Oh, geez. See, I'm trying to paint a
picture like Janelle was painting, but deceptive.
Like we have people. Yeah, we don't have any people.
And I'm like, what are you talking?
About like, no what? Do you mean we have?
Who's going to do that? We do not have people, no.
I think you're doing enough and.Listen, we do not have people,

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but we'll see. We would be very happy to have
you, Mona. We would love it.
But during this interaction, what stood out to me for sure is
the most disturbing, which of course it is Kody is.
He's like bringing up like how they have to be like a grunt
doing an open house. Like, oh, we have to start at
the bottom and we have to learn these things and do whatever.
And I'm going like, what do you think you're going to start as

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like a multi, like a real estatemogul?
Like, of course you're going to have to learn the basics.
Like he's just seemed so entitled and ridiculous.
But the funniest part about thisis that I think that he believes
that there is a time and a placein which you don't actually have
to do these things as a real estate agent.
Somebody else just does it for you, and you just come and

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perform the show. Yeah, she's teaching you how to
set up for this, because as a fucking real estate agent,
you're going to set these things.
Up. This is where you're starting,
Yeah. This isn't going away, this
isn't the grunt work. This is like the actual everyday
shit part of the job that you have to accept that you are
going to be doing. You do need to be a certain

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level of success as a realtor before you're allowed to have a,
before you can have a team of people executing.
Pay people to set up an open house like no, you are carrying
a cheese tray in with your Flyers and you are, you know,
making it pretty and you are putting the signs out and
you're, you don't pay people forthat because you know what,
Kody? I don't know if you know this,

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but the money that you make as areal estate agent you pocket if
you don't pay anybody else to doanything else.
All your dollars, right, OK, Youwant to take that grunt work
shit out of it, that's eating your profit.
That is you paying somebody elseto be a grunt and like.
TMI at this point. Literally TMI.

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Like whoever Mona works for. I don't know if it's her company
but they have built a successfulenough business where they hire
people to do these things. Kody is literally they.
They haven't even passed a single exam.
They have no licenses. I don't think they've been hired
to do to a single thing at this point.
I think this is just an exerciseand this is Mona showing them
the grunt work that you do if you are a real estate agent.

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Yeah. And that's as far as they're
going to get. It Yeah, you have to put up the
sign. Yeah, put up some flags.
Oh God, I know some. Can't even do that.
Can't even do that. Walk around to be able to speak
coherently and actually discuss a home.
Which is another thing, I don't even know if we actually get
into them ever discussing a. Property.
We watch them attempt to hang a banner in the absolute worst

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place possible and they're like,we're killing it, but also we're
going to risk our lives to hang this banner in the worst place
possible. That's how they're starting this
journey. And that makes sense for them.
It tracks. A.
Very brown real estate adventureand Kody lets us know that we're
in a down market and we're goingto ride it to the top, which is

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great. He's so enthusiastic.
I love that for him. Also some foreshadowing to when
they actually sell properties inthe future and how horribly that
goes. Like these people should run
from real estate. They should not, actually.
No, I know that this is not a long lasting career for them, so
I'm just going to mock it the entirety of the time.
Fair enough, because this is nottheir jam.

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No, no, it's. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're putting up the. What did you call it?
The the string of flakes. What is?
That it's a banner. It's not.
It's it. It's kind of like a banner, but
like it's one that is meant to be.
I don't know. If you're selling a house, you
might have it along the curb to draw attention.

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You might have it along the driveway to draw your eye.
You might have it at any places that make any sense whatsoever.
What they've chosen to do is hang it above where you would
walk through the sidewalk to thehome, but then clearly it's too
short for that height. And so then they have to remedy

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it. Yeah, that's a whole ass
disaster. And I'm still just going why are
you hanging it where you're hanging it?
What are you? What are you doing?
What are they doing? Well, it's like it's a string.
It's one of those things where it's a string with all these
little triangle flags. And so you would generally, I
mean, I'm assuming if I wasn't, you know, I'm not a realtor.

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So if I showed up, I would probably connect it from the
open house sign to a tree. I don't think I would connect it
from a sign to the house over the sidewalk.
Because. That doesn't really make any
sense. And I don't actually don't know
if it's connected to the sign. It might be the tree in the
house. I don't know where it's
connected. It's connected where you're
going to have foot traffic and they're going to walk into it
and like decapitate themselves. So clearly they have to raise it

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up. So this is what's great is that,
you know, Kody says Christine can just get on his shoulders
and he can just hoist her up andshe can just attach that string
of flags to the top of like the part.
Of the flag that they had going,they had one already at a
reasonable height. But also still, still I disagree

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with the placement just entirely.
Agreed. Agreed.
So they're trying to get this flag, string of flags attached
to like I guess the roof line orsomething.
And you know, Christine does geton his shoulders and he does
stand up. And there's some Oh my God, who
the he goes as you would expect.Well, he goes Christine up on my
shoulders, up on my should. It was like a like a little kid

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get up, get up, get up, you know, And she's like, I don't
think so. I don't.
And then he literally like kneels down and sticks his head
between her legs and just standsup.
Which first of all, he did not expect it to go smoothly as it
went initially. He did get her.
Up he got her and relative ease yeah, and for a hot minute yeah

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right like that was. He was going for he was like,
I'm not giving up. He.
Was also then she's trying to like tie a knot and that is
problematic with one hand because she's also terrified and
feels like she's falling so she's trying to grab onto a
light and then she's like fuck, I can't break the light.
So then it's like the gutter andthen it's like the corner of the
house. And then she's like, I'm
falling, I'm falling. And he's like, yeah, I'm

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falling. And she goes, I'm falling and.
He's like just sit up straight and she's like on his shoulders
all like Kitty wonkets at this point.
Like literally slept. It was.
So bad. And so then he just leans down
and lets her off and she's like,fuck you, I'm getting these
pails and creating a step and weare standing on five gallon
buckets. And this could have been just
what we did in the first fuckingplace.

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It was great seeing her him put her down because she did have to
like you. Know I wanted her to like knee
him in the face accidentally I was.
Hoping there would be a physicalaccident.
Yeah, like that would have been great.
Yeah, she does have to awkwardlyget off of his head and
whatever. Also, she could have farted in
his face and that would have been lovely.
No, I would have loved it so much.
It would have been great anyway.She does tell him when she's

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going to grab these buckets to stand on to accomplish their
goal. I love you.
I trust you implicitly. And then she goes off and does
whatever she's doing. Still using these fucking
buckets like. Thank you for your suggestions,
Wildman. Like it was so stupid and I just
maintain that their initial goalwas horrific anyway and so

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that's all the thoughts, feelings and opinions I have on
that. They did it all wrong.
They did do it all wrong and it was stupid and we got it.
They didn't use the clown music during it, which I was
disappointed on because we couldhave heard.
Something that would have been good, that would have been
great, that would have been goodand.
Instead, we were supposed to take them somewhat seriously.
That they were trying to get a job like.

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Yeah, I know. Absolutely not.
I know these. People are not trying to get a
job, no. No, Janelle has a spotlight
moment where she talks about howshe's excited to be busy again
with doing this. And so the one that I get the
most, you know, I guess legitimate interest in this
venture from is Janelle. Like, obviously she's career
driven. She has been cooped up at home

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losing her mind. So this is an outlet, and it
makes sense. Yeah, we need her to have this,
I think is pretty clear. And now wondering how all of a
sudden we're talking about teenagers dating.
Did I miss something? Nope, you didn't miss a thing.
That's just what happened. So she was really happy to be
busy. And then they were talking about

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how their teenagers want to go on a group date, which, yeah,
this becomes a whole thing. Yeah, even the teens, I think
there's a moment where they're like someone says it's not even
a date. It's not a date.
And the parents are like, it's adate.
And they're like, it's not a date, it's a date.
It's not a date, It's a date. Yeah, it was a lot.
Out of nowhere, by the way, onceagain, to reiterate, out of

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nowhere, like literally all of asudden they're just talking
about teenagers dating. My God.
This is also when they turn it into like the sex talk, which
also was not a sex talk. So little confused initially.
The parents are just, you know, saying that we want to be
involved. They want to go hang out with

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all these friends. We are, you know, a little
worried about that, but we just want to know.
We want you to share with us. Yeah, Robyn does this thing.
Oh God, Robyn. Where she goes, she's explaining
something along the lines of how.

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So at this point, the adults andthe kids are all the older kids
are sitting on couches like they're in this environment.
Like super close quarters again.Yes, they're all sitting ass to
ankles and they. Are.
That's. Totally right.
That's totally. Right, though I'm pretty proud I
got that one because yeah, I could have said some other body
parts. I don't think that's actually a

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phrase though, but I think that people sitting on the floor,
like ass to ankles makes sense, yeah.
Well, let's go with it. So they're sitting ass to
ankles. They're, you know, it's one of
those things. They're on the couch or on the
floor, they're whatever, and they're all piled together.
And I'm sorry for interrupting, but I felt like we just needed
to clarify that. I think painting the picture is
important and thank you. Yeah.
So they are, yes, they're all sitting there.

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And the teenagers are certainly annoyed by the parents, but the
parents are pretending to be theconcerned parents.
And there's this whole vibe. And then Robyn has to insert her
infinite wisdom. Oh, yeah.
And she says, well, you know, wejust don't want you guys to
like, I think, like, why didn't you tell me this?

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And all of the teenagers are like, yeah, but like you told
us, like, we've heard this forever.
Yeah, one of the quotes is not we've heard.
Yeah, we've heard like, no, like, what are you saying?
Like they all think she's ridiculous.
Yeah, and IA 150% agree. And she's so not in tune with

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reality of what teenagers are and she thinks she's one of
them, but she was a while ago and somebody maybe should have
told her some things. But these kids are being told a
thing. Yes, and also none of her bio
kids are there. So once again, another example
of her jumping in and being likewe just want to do this thing
where she's like parenting teenagers that aren't hers.

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I hate to say that they are family, but like honestly it's
just like the wives are telling them what it's like to be a
sister wife. You don't need to lead the
teenager discussions, Robyn. Seriously.
I think she can back off on the mothering of them considering
she's known them a very insignificant amount of time in
their lives. Well, they were very
enthusiastic about her pregnancyand they probably feel very like

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she's, you know, God. OK.
You know, one of the things thatis said is that Robyn has been
with many men. Maddie.
Maddie, that caddy bitch. She was like you told us about
how many men you've been with. Yes.
Yes. And was it Logan that was like
kissed, kissed how many men she kissed?

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Because like, we can't make it sound like she fucked them all,
but whatever, we don't know. And definitely Kody said
something too, right? Like of like, Oh no, that she
went on a date with or something.
Like there was all this. All this justification, and it's
like, no, everybody thinks Robynwas a hussy.
Yeah, and none of their mothers were.
Certainly their mothers didn't have those experiences.

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Well, Janelle, marry that one dude that one time.
Meri's brother. But we don't talk about that.
And I did have a tinge to me of like in the future we get, I
think Robyn like proselytizing or she she likes to tell people
about her story about how she lost her purity.

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And I do think that the kids have probably already heard this
story or have heard the sister story or the sister to the
sister wife story. She has definitely told them
about how she was loose and how she has paid for it and how now
Kody doesn't get her purity. Listen, I'm going to I'm going

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to blame Robyn. For everything.
For well, everything that I can obviously, and one of which is
her minimal involvement in theseteenagers lives.
However, we find out that almostall of them have kissed someone
and I, I, I just, I cannot. So I'm going to blame that on
Robyn too. Preemptively, Preemptively

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let's. Just do that.
Christine mentioned how her mom got married at 17.
So they were kind of talking about like these different ages
in which these thresholds can bemet and like how we how we
handle these things. Christine said her mom got
married at 17 and she felt like she didn't have enough time to

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like grow up or experience things or whatever else.
And she like missed out on that teenage Ness.
And so she's trying to share that with the kids.
And I think that's lovely. Also, don't get married at 17.
Also, my rule is actually just 30.
Don't get married until you're 30.
Right, that is a good age. Never did it, but I think it
would have worked out better forme if I had tried that instead,

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right? So I, I liked how she said that.
I liked that she was framing it with regret from the past.
Kind of. But like, nice that you're
giving them good examples of reasons to not rush into things
and not just Robyn being a hussy.
Yeah, and it's yeah, the connection with marriage and sex

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and whatever, I don't know. It's all convoluted with them.
I was going to crack a joke about how you said don't get
married till you're 30. And the way that I'm going to
say my joke is so that I look like I have followed my own
rules, which is I say don't get married till you're 50.
Well, we can keep changing the age.
So I'm so I'm like, I'm just giving myself made-up kudos.
Like I haven't gotten married yet.

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Listen for your circumstance, that might be better.
No one would be great, no. One would be, I'm just telling
you, 2122. Yeah.
No, I know. Amen.
Amen. 30 is a good #50 is even better for me, Kody tells the
kids. You shouldn't be sexual until
you're done with high school andI would prefer if you were

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married. OK.
The whole vibes of this conversation were weird to me
because not weird. Actually, I'm going to reframe
that because it was kind of normal.
It was kind of like, look, this is what I would prefer.
These are the reasons I'm telling you that I think this
would be better or worse. I know you are you and you're

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going to make your decisions, but if I could have any
influence on it, this is the influence I would try to have.
I think it's kind of what any parent does and any situation.
So I felt like it was relatable.I thought it was actually extra
relatable because I've often thought if I had children I
would talk to them about waitingto have sexual experiences until

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they're out of high school. Primarily because as a teenager,
I felt like people that were engaging in adult relationships
too young in my opinion, which is just my opinion.
It felt really weird. Like I felt like I was like,
we're in high school or like we're like, you don't even have
your license and you're having sex with people.
Now, I'm not trying to shame people who have sex with people

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young like you do you, whatever.But as a parent, I would be
like, yo, like, just so you know, there's a lot of stuff
that's going to happen when you're a teenager and it's OK to
wait to have sex until you're like 18 years old is like
totally reasonable. And by the way, you're not going
to miss out on things. Your friends are going to talk
about things. You're going to feel like you're

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missing out on something, but atthe end of the day those people
are detracted, distracted and living adult situations that
they really shouldn't be in my humble opinion.
So I think not having sex until you're out of high school is
great advice. Not everyone can follow it, but
as a parent, that's what I wouldprobably lay down as my
recommendation. Oh, I have so many thoughts,

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feelings and opinions and all ofwhich, like, agree with
everything you just said. Yeah, I think that.
But my first initial gut reaction, sorry, was that, you
know, look at these TV shows that kids watch, even that we
watched in high school. You're watching these high

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school relationships with sex. Like they might not show you the
sex, but they show you that the sex is happening or they talk
about the sex or they whatever. Like you're watching these
mature things happen. And that's just out there.
That's that Saved by the Bell, like whatever, all the shows we
used to watch, it just gets worse and worse and worse into

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today's shows. And I still watch some of the
weird high school shows, and I'mlike, this is a lot.
But when you're in high school, you do start to sew even with a
younger teen, right? Watching them try to create the
space for themselves as their own independent thinking being

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is really fun all the time, all the time, all the time.
So much. Fun.
It's so great. And then they get to having that
type of relationship, but with other people still in this very
young setting. But my God, there are some
actual true, real relationships that happen at those young ages,

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Like super, super true and real.And some of the shit that I see
on the show is like, yeah, that's what happens in real
life, you know? And I'm like, OK, so it's just a
reality. Like it just is what it is.
I I do think though, like watching nieces and nephews and
hopefully my own child, who knows?

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But like, I think kids are a little bit more cautious of
some. Like I think we were Dumber.
I think we were more like, woohoo, whatever.
I think these kids are a little with the social medianess and
the images that have to be out there and then this and that.
I think they're a little more cautious, but I don't know.

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A lot of shit happened in high school, and it was a lot of
stuff that seemed way more mature than it should have been
for those years, but it totally was.
And so I'm just like thinking ofthese TV shows and of my own
experience. And then I'm thinking, dear God,
I'm approaching this with my ownchild.
And then I'm like, Oh my God. He's having an existential

(27:49):
crisis. And I think I just still need to
get that medication that. Would that might that might
help, but not to belabor of the point.
I think when I was in high school, I looked at people
around me and yeah, I just felt like they were making these like
decisions that were yeah, I don't I don't I don't remember.

(28:12):
I was going with them. Well, I think what I think, I
hear what you're saying, but I think I was one of those people
in high school making those decisions.
Like I think I was like in love with someone and I think I was
having a real relationship with someone.
And that was crazy. And I had several of those
super, super real relationships in high school, one of which
that almost led to marriage. It led to me moving across the

(28:34):
country a month after I graduated high school.
There was the talk about engagement, you know, there was
all of those things. And so like, I had that out the
gates. I had two great loves in high
school. And so like, and I, they were
loves. They they I stand by at 100%.

(28:55):
Yeah, yeah. You know so.
Yeah, I had my first boyfriend when I was a senior in high
school. I was 18.
I was like old for my class and I felt ready for it at that
point. Like I, I was ready for that.
But I remember also in the moment being like, Oh my gosh,
like this is what all of this isthat everyone's been talking
about, which was nice. And I'm actually glad that it

(29:17):
only happened for me when I was that old.
Like, I'm glad that I wasn't in 10th grade going through that
because it's a lot. Yep, it's a lot.
Sure is, sure is real life feel and stuff at those ages too, you
know, like. I know, I hope I don't sound
like like old nag. I'm just being like, you know,
that's that's the advice I wouldoffer teenagers to is like wait
till you done with high school and if they follow it, they do.

(29:38):
If they don't, they. Don't.
So a they're never going to follow advice, but B it's.
You're like, this is an exercisein futility.
It's not going to have it. Yeah, but totally.
And then, like, even though I had some of those experiences,
like as graduation is happening and people are like, are you so
sad that you're gonna, are you fucking kidding?

(29:58):
You think I'm sad? This is the best day of my life
to leave this place? Like, who cares about any of
that old shit? Like, give me the fuck out of
here. I don't want to see any.
I don't want to see you or you or you or you.
I am done with this fucking place.
Like, I am done. And I was a good student.
Like I didn't have like animosity towards things, but I
was like, Nope, peace out. Yeah, I was very ready for it

(30:21):
too. So I get all of it.
And I do think waiting until older ages is smarter, smarter.
They're not going to listen. The kids aren't going to listen
to us. Chris, I, I love that you're
trying to give the kids advice, but they're not going to listen
to us. They don't listen to this show,
to be super clear and. Listen, if any of you are
struggling with this at home, you can just play this episode

(30:43):
for your kids because it's definitely great for children.
I mean, if your teenagers are old enough to have sex, they're
old enough to listen to this podcast, OK?
And maybe you could tell them, hey, listen to these two cool
people. They're so awesome.
And one of them is at least telling you not to have sex
until you're an adult. The other, she was a teenage
slut. OK, That wasn't NPR there.

(31:03):
That was Little Golden Girls. I mean, fine.
Well, do you want me to defend myself?
No, no, we've we've spent way too much time on this topic.
Totally we. Yes, yes, and if only you would
listen to Kody, because his advice is that it's unwise to be
physical when you're young, Ally.
Yeah, Kody made all the right choices.

(31:25):
He he tried to warn you. My eyes are rolling back into my
head, my breath is getting choked up in my throat.
Like I cannot stomach saying those words.
No, I cannot stomach saying those words out loud.
It's so wrong. Well, I thought maybe Kody was
moving you, but it's OK. He does be sure to say this is

(31:49):
not prohibition. Oh no.
This is not prohibition, no, it is just unwise.
Yeah, Amen. All right, super clear, Super
clear. Thanks, Dad.
Does he say something about kissing as a token of something?
Well here's I trailed off. Here's what I recall.
We're already done with this shit, but we have to finish at

(32:12):
least the episode. So here's the thing.
The kids I think are on the couch and they are kind of
joking around about the parents take on all of this quote UN
quote sex talk that shut up. Yeah.
Anyway, yeah. And and I think Logan, I think
it was Logan, maybe it was Maddie, but says that like

(32:34):
kissing should be special. It should be special.
Yeah, Maddie and Logan both say that teenagers should be allowed
to kiss, that it's not the same thing as like, saying you're
going to marry someone. It's not some big dramatic thing
that kissing is not the end of the world and that you can kiss
without having sex. Basically, is what they
paraphrasing. Right.

(32:55):
Leon volunteers that they are the only one who hasn't been
kissed of the older kids. No, I thought this was so cute
and they want. To wait till they're married.
They threw every other one underthe bus.
I'm the only one on this couch that hasn't been kissed.
They all have I'm. Waiting till I'm married.
But I want to know what the kisses mean, because I don't
think they mean on the lips. I think some of them mean kisses

(33:17):
on the hands and some mean kisses on the cheek.
I don't think they mean lip kisses.
I thought you were going to say kisses.
On the Oh my God. That's like girl.
These are teenagers. I know well it's inappropriate,
it's wrong. I believe no.
OK, so they're kissing each other's body parts and some of

(33:38):
them are OK with it and some of them aren't.
I think they were kissed on the cheek.
I don't think they've been kissed on the lips.
I'm pretty sure. Aspen, you think they've been
kissed on the lips? I think Aspen, Logan and Maddie
have kissed people. They're like.
Yeah, they're like in high school.
I mean, you know, scandalous. I mean, I don't know.
I want to know Aspen, Maddie Logan, please.

(34:00):
Please don't, please don't. Please ignore her right now.
OK, so the kids want to go on a group date, but they don't think
it's actually a date, which is great.
Kids, it's not a date. Parents, it's a date.
Kids, it's not a date. Parents, it's a date.
They have a bunch of of their friends over to the house and
it's kind of like this like pilein of teenagers and some like

(34:20):
greetings and then a pile out and whatever.
That I got so much anxiety. It's like, and so this is this
person and this person and this person and you know, like being
introduced to anybody and tryingto remember names is so
challenging at times. And they're introducing like 25
people at once. It was so much, well, between

(34:41):
the friends and the parents and all of this, it was like a lot.
And it was just names and names and names and people and names
and people and names. Thank God that was over.
Kody indicated that one of theirbiggest fears is the influence
of their peers, of the kids, that they don't have control

(35:02):
over any of this. And so this is Casernicus.
And those other kids come from monogamous faiths, so he doesn't
say they can't be trusted. But can they be trusted?
Who knows? Robyn lets us know that she
thinks the children, particularly the women, should
have sister wives. Maddie, Leon and Aspen, she

(35:23):
really hopes, have sister wives.Right, right.
OK. And my eyes rolled to back, so
far back in my head that I almost died.
Now, you know, the right way to say that was what Christine did,
which was she said that she truly hopes that their children
find value in their lifestyle and if so, choose to live the

(35:46):
same lifestyle you know will have been because they, you
know, enjoyed their experience of it.
That's, I think a nicer way. Yeah, of saying it.
Then I really hope Maddie, Leon and Aspen have sister wives.
Yeah. Robyn.
Not even her bio kids once againbut.
Right what? It's.

(36:08):
It's just the age thing. She's.
Just so pushy about it. It's like, why do you, you know,
you should take a cue from Janelle right now and just
fucking sit there. Like, shut the fuck up.
You don't have to have an opinion on this.
And OK, if producers were tryingto get something out of her,
that's fine. But she could have been far less
idiotic. Wow.
Anyway. When they're on the couch, Kody

(36:29):
reiterates that the investigation is still underway
in Utah. So we get that update.
No end insight, yeah. There's no end insight they've.
Left Utah under pressure. We're building quite the
soundtrack. I know, I know.
We such vocal talents. Well, we hope.
We hope someone's building something.

(36:50):
Someone's making a playlist. Right.
We haven't yet, right? I know I still may.
You never know. All right, Logan, Maddie and
Leon want to move back to Utah. They are not happy staying here.
As soon as school is done, they are out of here.
Yep. Robyn.
Robyn Isabin. Oh well, the good news is that

(37:13):
Aspen wants everyone to stay andbe close and happy.
So Aspen is the only one of the older kids that wants everyone
to stay close together. But Maddie has 1 foot out the
door. Oh, of course Maddie's mad, mad,
mad mad Maddie. And Logan says he's gone.
I'm gone. I'm out of here.
Aspen loves Vegas. Yes, she does.

(37:36):
She loves it so much. And she loves her family.
Yes. She wants them to stay close.
Yes, that's what you're. Saying Logan tells us that
they've made friends in town, which of course like these, you
know, this family moves to town.The teenagers are not like hide
them away in the closet like these are normal.
These seem like well adjusted teenagers in the in every sense

(37:58):
of the word that we can see on this show.
So of course they've made friends when they've started
school and then they transition into this teen group outing,
which is just so fun. It just reminds me of all the
teen outings I had when I was when I was 16.
This is what me and my friends are doing.
Yeah, me and mine too. Right.

(38:19):
We sat around and we talked about what it's like to be in
each other's lifestyles. Like what is it like to be a
teen in the polygamist lifestyle?
At a hot dog restaurant. Oh yeah, hot dogs, hot dogs.
Wiener in the bun. Let's talk about what courting
means. We'll we'll share with the group
what courting means. Well, what does it mean?
You know that that you're reallyserious about each other and you

(38:40):
have chaperones with when you when you're dating, that's
courting. That's courting.
It's always a good time. Aspen mentions that she's not
sure if polygamy is for her. It might be too much.
Yeah too much drama yes, which Ilove that she recognized that
there's drama Aspen also so Aspen is Christine's oldest and

(39:07):
Aspen, we find out plays the role of almost like a surrogate
mother when Christine's not around like she was a very
responsible oldest child. How that makes sense that, you
know, trope is out there. She fits it perfectly.
So I'm when she talks about her perspective as far as from the
kids point of view, I trust her quite a bit.
Like she's, you know, she's level headed.

(39:29):
She hasn't said anything That's ridiculous.
Her and Logan are both like that, like where it's like
whatever they say, it's probablythe truth.
Totally. So too much drama.
That makes sense. Logan doesn't care.
Yeah. He's moving forward with his
studies in school and wanting todo the things that you do as a
young adult once again feels very level headed and reasonable
and duh. He's going to see what the Lord

(39:50):
has in store for him. Yeah, that's a great response
for someone raised in a cult who's, like, in high school,
like very reasonable. The kids actually seem like.
Normal kids. I mean, they really like a
teenage kid. Yeah.
They seem like normal teenage kids for being raised in a cult.
Particularly normal. Yeah, I guess a. 100%.

(40:11):
So we'll go with that. Then the teenagers go to an ice
skating rink. They were such nerds.
I mean, like everybody in an iceskating rink is kind of a nerd.
But like, you know, like we all look like nerds.
Like who? Looks great skating Like
everybody. Like Michelle Kwan.
Wow, and it was pretty cute. I enjoyed this.

(40:31):
I enjoyed this, but it reminded.Me of I look like Tonya Harding
when I'm skating. I just want you to know.
Sorry for interrupting. They call me Tonya Harding.
I'm sure they do. I wish I had witness.
Mm. Hmm.
Can I tell you my one moment of ice skating memory for my
childhood? Please do.
And this is a huge confession for the Internet.
Oh God. So it was elementary school.

(40:53):
I was at Jenny Anderson's birthday party and it was at the
skate park in Alexandria. Oh geez.
And for some reason I think I drank too much soda pop.
Oh, and I was out on the rink. Oh geez.
And somebody made me laugh and Ipeed my pants on the skating

(41:16):
rink and now I'm not sure if anybody knew.
OK. If they did, they didn't ever
say. Oh, so no one said like, honey,
we got to do something with you here.
My Jean jacket around my waist. Yeah.
I took care of that situation, yeah, And I lived out that
party. Well, I'm glad that I brought up

(41:37):
Tonya Harding because she peed on the ice when she was a kid
and it's in that movie about. Her, yes.
Yes, because her mom was scolding her and being like you
can't go, no, you stay. Up there and have an excuse that
good. Well, no, but you're the modern
day Tonya Harding. You peed while you were skating
and you put that around that Jean jacket around your waist
and you continued on. Listen, I think it worked.
I don't know. I would love to know from my

(41:58):
elementary school. Class if any of you remember I.
Remember it as the girl that Peter pans at the birthday party
or not like, please. Everyone was like sparing her
your feelings, like not acknowledging it.
And I'm like, look, I don't know, like it happened, but I'm
still going to try. Amen.
Amen. Thank you for feeling like this
is a safe enough space to share that.
Alley. Well, you know, it's kind of

(42:19):
like a weight off the shoulders.Oh, good.
Good, good, good. I feel really good.
About See, we are doing good notonly for others, but for
ourselves. Oh my gosh, we are repairing
this old soul. This this old anyway, Maddie
thought it was way. Help me, Yeah.

(42:41):
Oh honey, we got better stories than that.
What's that? Maddie thought it was.
They had the lights off and it was like roller rink vibes.
It was. It was.
I mean, everybody just looks silly at an ice skating rink.
Like you just can't get past it.Maddie thought it was way fun.
Like, it was way fun. Oh, good.
She also then, you know, was giving her feelings on polygamy

(43:02):
and it is not right for her. No, she's pretty sure she would
be way jealous, way jealous. And that's just way too big of a
family. Like she has no desire to have
that many people around her. Yeah, yeah.
And look, I get it. Amen.
What I do, it's funny, I was thinking about her succinctness

(43:24):
and like her clarity and her opinion and I was thinking it
reminded me of her mom and I waslike, oh, she's a knock off the
old block. Amen.
But then Maddie does end up becoming kind of a trad wife and
popping out a lot of babies. But, you know, at least there's
no on. Her own term.
There's no other sister wives around.
I know, this is it. Props to you.
Props to you for making your ownchoices.
That's beautiful. Then they go to frozen yogurt.

(43:46):
Yep, they end the date with frozen yogurt.
They're so excited. They're once again asked about
what it's like growing up in polygamy and they're like, well,
what's it like growing up in monogamy?
And I'm like, didn't we already cover this?
I don't know, maybe I'm just toodrunk but or have amnesia.
We're not sober but but my favorite was that Leon made a
joke about Maddie. Did you catch this?

(44:09):
I'm not sure. Leon said Maddie cut her hair so
short once she looked like a boy.
Yeah, and I thought that was funny.
Interesting. Like, funny in a few different
ways, yeah. Yeah.
And I think part of what I thinkis funny is that we got a
glimpse of Leon a bit more in this episode.

(44:33):
Well, I mean, I don't know if it's more than others, but I
think that we are just watching them grow and knowing kind of
how life pans out. I I just it's this is an
interesting experience in the public eye to watch play out
anyway, like from the younger years to what we know very

(44:54):
little about today. Yeah, I don't know.
I just thought it was interesting.
Yeah. And I say all of this with like
a kind. Heart.
Yeah, like. A super kind heart, like no
judgments, no nothing, no bad, but it's just a funny moment of
somebody trying to fit in. Yeah, exactly.
It's totally has the fit in vibes, like if I make fun of
this, this is normal, yeah. When in all reality, you

(45:14):
probably don't think like that inherently and you're struggling
with something. And that's what a lot of people
do, they make fun of, they put down.
I mean, there's a lot of Republican senators that live
this life and they are and they are old and they are still doing
it. Miss Lindsay.
But also, yes, thank you, Lindsay.
That that, I mean, I remember asa teenager making quips about

(45:37):
gay men, about queer people and making fun of it, making light
and with even and with gender identity, it'd be the same
thing, you know, making fun of aboy that's effeminate was it was
like a thing to do, like, ha ha,ha.
When in all reality, like that was me.
Totally. And I think that it's
interesting because they say they are 100% sure they want to

(45:59):
live polygamy, they want to be asister wife, they want to have
all of this. Leon was praying for answers and
can't wait for the day that theycan have sister wives.
Right. And I'm like, OK.
And so that's like they think it's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful thing. And yeah, I just wonder what is

(46:19):
happening like at that point in their life versus, you know, a
few. Like I think that's one of the
things that I don't trying to figure out the best way to say
this because I mean this in likethe kindest, most empathetic

(46:40):
way. And I've sort, I growing up is
hard regardless, right? Like aging and learning is hard,
especially in teenage years, Also in your 20s, also in your
30s, also in your 40s, as it turns out, guys, it continues.
I'm sorry, but like it's hard and learning how to live in the

(47:01):
world is hard. And I think that sometimes
people just like roll through this and never struggle.
And then those that do struggle are like, holy shit, how is this
so easy for other people? And then if you add on top of it
a gender identity or a sexual identity or a whatever, like it

(47:24):
just complicates it in differentways.
And I just wonder what that experience was like in this
public large family. Yeah, where you being filmed?
And trying to figure out who youare as a human too.
And I don't know that just like it's bonkers in my.

(47:44):
Mind, and that's quite a time I mean if someone was filming me
when I was 15 or 16, I would nottake ownership of any of the
things that I said I would be like that's ridiculous I was a
minor and I'm that's why we try not to go too hard on the kids
they're they're kids and we can.And you know so.
Many observations you can make, or conclusions that you can hold
them accountable for. I mean, they're literal children

(48:04):
and. They didn't know what they were
doing. And now we're actually getting
to a point to where we're spending these episodes learning
more about the kids. You know, the first two seasons
were really heavy on activity and goal, like unnecessary chaos
and stupid plans and whatever. Like we're actually diving into
their lives a little bit more and more as we're going through
the show. 1 of the interesting things about when they were

(48:26):
being questioned about growing up in polygamy.
I feel like Logan says, I'm not sure if I caught this right, but
that he has a lot to do or that he he's really busy.
He has a lot going. On he has goals like he has
other things he wants to do and he is not focused 100% on what
marriage looks like for him. Well, and my, my interpretation
of what that was is that actually when he was responding

(48:47):
to what's it like growing up in a polygamist family, he has a
lot to do. Like he's busy, like he's doing.
You mean in the family? I thought you meant where he was
going. Post not not future wise like
when they're asking, you know, what is it like?
It just caught my attention thatwe've talked about the
parentification of a lot of these kids and particularly
Logan and Aspen. And Logan here is kind of saying

(49:09):
like he's busy. There's a lot to do when you're
in a plug in his family. I don't think every child's
response is there's a lot to do.I think he's the oldest in this
situation. I think to an extent that's
accurate, but I think that if you were an oldest child in a
family of six children, you're doing a lot regardless.
Now, yes, there's others coming into the mix, so maybe you're

(49:33):
cooking twice as much as what you did or whatever else, paying
attention to more than you were.But I think if you are the
oldest of six children, you are very involved.
Yeah, in that. Regard not exclusive to being
polygamous for. Sure, correct.
He's just the oldest. Jesus brings us on a commercial
break and then God ushers us back in, which is beautiful, the

(49:54):
Holy Spirit. And we're back at Robyn's
rental. So just just how these episodes
go, It's like now that's done and now we're at Robyn's rental
for the closing out of the episode.
And Robyn lets us know that she has been spotting the last
couple of days and that her and Kody are concerned about status

(50:15):
of their pregnancy. But she's, you know, I guess the
spotting bit, I don't know if there was anything else about
the specifics. I think the only other thing
that Kody said was this was not anything that had happened to
her with her previous pregnancy.So it was different.
I mean, if that had happened before it maybe it wouldn't seem

(50:38):
as concerning, but it did not. And so it is concerning.
And they're feeling pretty heavy.
Yeah, about it. As you would.
Well, they're going to the midwife to check on things.
Yes, they're going to go to the midwife.
They're going to try to figure out if they can find a
heartbeat. Part of the reason this is more
scary is because Christine actually had two miscarriages,

(51:04):
one of which she had to go like go to the hospital for because
she was bleeding so much. And then?
And that and that experience, that situation is referenced a
lot throughout the show, in the book, etcetera, because it was
really, really scary. Super traumatic, Yeah.
And Meri also had a miscarriage,and that was her only other

(51:27):
pregnancy after Leon. And obviously it was
devastating. So, you know, they're kind of
going into this with the feelings that I think anyone
would, right, You know, definiteworry and concern and wanting to
make sure that everything's OK. Yeah.
Kody does say that he's feeling emotionally devastated now, as

(51:48):
someone who's watching the show who has not been pregnant nor
has gotten anyone pregnant. I'm, I'm not a Gold Star gay or
whatever it is. I did come out of a vagina.
Like I came bursting and screaming out of one, right?
But other than that, like, that's pretty much it.
I did put a tampon and a friend once.
Yes, that's different. That's a whole different form of
penetration. Yeah, Oh my God, yes, it

(52:15):
definitely was. Different.
I wonder where do I come up withit?
I don't know, you know. Well, I mean, if I told you.
The story about. How it was that I was putting a
Tanner. I.
Do you know the story? I know it's not.
Appropriate for. This.
Yeah, I'm not telling it here. Which is funny because.
To anyone we. Are we are the low of the low?
And I can't even tell that storyhere, but you know, Kody saying

(52:35):
that he's emotionally devastatedas a casual observer who's
watching the show, it seems a bit much.
Like it seems like, OK, you're emotionally devastated because
at this point we don't have any updates about Robyn.
And they're just, they're talking about Robyn situations
and he's talking about this history.
But to go to a midwife, I mean, plenty of people go to doctor's

(52:56):
appointments and things throughout their pregnancies.
So just as like, I don't know, aheartless asshole, man, it seems
a little bit dramatic to be emotionally really devastated
when you don't know what's goingon quite yet.
But it. Is heartless an asshole because.
Yes, yes, yes. No.
And I, I only say it from personal experience because I

(53:17):
have been there and did have a miscarriage and then obviously
had the child that I have today.And in my second pregnancy, we
did have a, I don't even want tosay a scare, but there was like
an ultrasound where things looked abnormal.
And so they sent us to go do a 3D ultrasound from there and

(53:37):
analyze everything like way bigger.
And it took like maybe over a week to get like the next
appointment. And so in that time frame, like
depending on how long this has been happening, it had been at
least a few days. And in the time frame leading up
until the appointment, like you are only thinking about worst

(53:57):
case scenario, you are not thinking, surely it's fine That
is not crossing your mind. So whatever duration of time it
is that it takes you to get to that appointment, yes, you are
panicking, especially if you have had a previous loss.
And so Robyn maybe hasn't personally, but Kody has.
And so, you know, I don't like to give him credit, Chris, and I

(54:21):
do not. But this is a situation in which
I totally will. I will say that any feeling in
the worry of a child being born is, you know, I'm just going to
give him their feelings. Yeah, yeah, Generally warranted,
yes. I don't think that his feelings
are wrong. From a viewer of a show, it

(54:43):
seems a bit like much. However, of course, like and
Robyn says that she's preparing for the worst and this is.
I'd actually like to interject really quick before you talk
about Robyn's hearing for the worst because what I thought was
really special, they drove up tothe midwife's, like, office
building or whatever in the convertible with a top down with

(55:08):
their hair blowing in the breeze, screeched into that
parking. Not screeched, but didn't move
slowly into that parking spot. Yeah, and that's where we start
off. You know how they feel about all
of this. Right, did his usual Kody Fast
pull in? Top down convertible.
No protection. Wind in our hair as we are
worrying about, yeah, all of these things.

(55:30):
Got a pull in looking like he's from MTV Cribs.
I would lose my mind. I would be like, the sound of
this is killing me. Will you please put the fucking
top of it, brother? We just get to our appointment
in a reasonable like quiet like.How has she not become
auditorily sensitive at this point?
Because for me, at this point, I'm like.
Yeah, absolutely. That totally makes sense.

(55:51):
Anyway. But Robyn does tell us that
she's preparing for the worst. OK, sounds good.
They do like the, you know, theycan put it on your tummy,
Doppler heartbeat thing. They are listening.
They are listening. You know, this is kind of what
doctors do in this moment. If they don't hear the
heartbeat, then they kind of just like, oh, well, no worries.

(56:13):
We're just going to go and do the ultrasound then just to make
sure we can find it. And then they go and do the
ultrasound and, well, we don't know what happens yet.
No, we. Don't know.
I have a question for you. When they're moving from the
Doppler to ultrasound, what's happening on the screen is that
Robyn is laying on this leather couch, getting the Doppler dot

(56:36):
on her tummy. And I'm some of these areas are
very delicate midwives. OK, so.
I had midwives with both of my pregnancies.
OK. So midwives, it's not exactly
like some sort of AUB culty thing.
It's it's common. It's very common.
When totally common and I loved a midwife, like 0 problem

(56:59):
midwife versus OBGYN. Zero problem with that for me.
They're supervised still like I think with somebody with that
license of some sort, but I don't, I didn't have some sort
something. I don't even know how it all
works now, but it's been a minute since right.
It's been same for me. Yes, well, totally.
So I, I don't know for sure, butwhat I can tell you is that when

(57:23):
I went to an appointment with mymidwife, I went to a hospital
and I was in a hospital room andwhen they did the, you know,
Doppler, I was on a hospital bed, like, or like an exam room
bed, not a hospital bed, but like they wheel the thing in and
whatever, you know. So no, I was never laying on a

(57:43):
couch in someone's office. That was unique to me.
I'm like a leather couch from overstock.com.
Yeah, it was not that. I don't know what my thoughts,
feelings and opinions are. Yeah, I don't think I
necessarily have an opinion other than jumping to the
conclusions of like, why the fuck are you on a leather couch
having this done? Like it just seemed a little
clown shoes to me. I don't know what this normal

(58:05):
situation is, so I'm I'm going to reserve my judgments when I'm
laying my head down in bed tonight.
Maybe it was just simply like a for recording bit, right?
Like to get them to actually go into a room with the thing with
whatever. Like maybe maybe they were just
like hoping for the do the thingand hear the heartbeat and have
the moment and like maybe it canbe easy peasy like that and not

(58:27):
have to go into like a medical area with cameras.
And so they were trying to avoidthat and then turns out.
Well, that's they. Have to go.
You're giving that? That could be, but yes.
But then. The midwife does have Robyn
moved to an actual exam chair. Duh.
In my mind, I was like, duh, like why are we even doing this?

(58:48):
But why didn't we start there? And they're going to do an
ultrasound And we cut to Kody ina couch moment.
Spotlight moment couch moment with Robyn.
Are they? Is it both of?
Them were together. Yeah, they're on the couch.
Yeah, and he's getting emotionalover the potential outcomes from
what this means. They felt really hopeless, but

(59:09):
obviously, whatever happens, youaccept what happens.
And I mean, that's pretty much it, you know, like we're just
waiting to see what happens. Yeah.
Yeah, being in that waiting period, I mean, there's many
times in life where you're waiting for information and news
and updates and it can be devastating.

(59:32):
It can be dramatic, it can be positive.
It can be a lot of things that can be a lot of outcomes.
And it's. Well, what I can tell you is
what's actually happening is that we have the cliffhanger
right now, but they are in the room and about to get the answer
in 2.5 seconds that their pregnancy is fine, right?
Because they have the baby. Like we know this is actually.

(59:53):
You're ruining it. Spoiler.
Spoiler this happened 15 years ago but.
Spoiler Yeah. And not 15, but you know.
Close enough. Close enough.
But yeah, they get the answer. Like we know it's OK, and so
that's great. Yeah.
And the worry sucks. The worry sucks.
That's not a great feeling. And you know, all of that is
big. So yeah, I will not fault them

(01:00:17):
for their fear or concern or emotions or anything in that
moment because it does suck. It's pretty terrible, Yeah.
You know, so. All of the things like you said,
all of the emotions and all thatseemed aligned, seemed to make
sense. Amen.
You know what I'm going to do this episode?
I'm going to whip out a shit stain.
I'm. Whipping out the shit stain.

(01:00:37):
See, he pretends he never doesn't.
He just. And then all of a sudden I.
Faint. Oh I would never just whip on a
shit stain have. You done that to you yet this.
Is I'm whipping out a shit stain.
So my shit stain this episode definitely goes to Robyn Brown
because there are times when sheshould just sit there and what
is it the oh she should keep sweet.

(01:00:58):
Shut the fuck up. She should shut the fuck up,
literally. Like just you don't need to be
in this right now. And there are mothers of the by
biological mothers of the children that we are talking
about in a situation and they are not yapping their mouths.
They are listening to you go on and on and it's just unnecessary

(01:01:19):
and foreshadowing for future events.
Who is your shit stain, darling?I hate this because I really
hadn't thought about it until right now and you whipped it out
on me. I know, I just whipped it out.
Who is my shit stain this episode?
At the end of the episode, I wasgiving Kody some emotional like,

(01:01:43):
you know, leeway with the heavy things, but it's still going to
go to Kody Brown because he justkind of kind of sucks.
You know, he pretends that Mona is begging him to get into real
estate. And I think that we know Mona is
not begging him to get into realestate.

(01:02:04):
Mona is trying to keep him as a client as long as she fucking
can to get the Commission on those four fucking houses.
And then that bitch is gone. Yep, that's yeah.
So I love. That wonderful woman is gone.
We want her to be on the show. Well, you know that I did say
bitch affection. Yeah, right.

(01:02:25):
Like Mona. Come on.
Come on. Yeah, she knows.
She knows us. Get out of.
Here, we're tired. I don't have to justify that.
So Kody Brown for thinking that he's being begged to get into
real estate, of course, I think is just where I'm going to have.
To well and partnered with that was the entire experience with
the the flag thing and Christineand the whole like, I'll just

(01:02:46):
what an idiot, what an idiot. He's so dumb.
I love when our comments re likelike make us react with such
strong like what an idiot like we're just so mad like we just
our whole body is tense up and we're fucking pissed.
He's so gross. He's so gross.

(01:03:08):
Yeah. Mustard seed.
Do you have one ready? I do can I do mine, Leon, Leon
is my mustard seed. Oh my gosh.
And I think for so many reasons,I think that for a person going
through who knows what in that brain and moment of identity and

(01:03:32):
all of these things like this isobviously happening over many
years. But like, holy shit, coming on
and sitting with your teenage siblings and sharing your true
thoughts and feelings and opinions as they exist in your
brain, right then I just think it's pretty great.

(01:03:53):
And I, I don't. Yeah, I just, I guess I just
heard it. I just heard it.
Yes, 101 hundred many moments from the teenagers that were
real moments and like authentic and you're meeting someone who
is not an adult. So seeing them on the show, like
all of the things that we already talked about with like
giving grace and being like, Oh my God, because like, if it was
me. No, literally, if my teenage

(01:04:15):
moments were on television, justyeah.
No, terrible, terrible. So I think I'm going to give my
mustard seed to Logan because once a Logan fan, I was a Logan
fan. Logan's great and I was going
back and forth between Logan andAspen.
But there are other times for meto give Aspen some mustard

(01:04:36):
seeds. She's there.
They both have like oldest vibesand I'm an oldest.
I get it and I feel it and I just think Logan.
Isn't that funny? We're.
Both we're both oldest and like Logan has this way, obviously
the maturity in the bit that we talked about earlier in the
episode. But I really like that when even
speaking with friends, he has this like candor and like humor

(01:04:59):
and isn't standoffish. There's a reason that everyone
like wants to be his friend. Like he's cool.
He's a cool cat. And is not like super determined
on where his life goes from here.
Like he's just jamming. Like he's just whatevs, I'm
living my life, I don't know forsure and whatevs.
That's great. I know.
I really could have used a little bit more of that vibe, I

(01:05:20):
know when I was his age instead of being so adamant, but.
Also, here's the thing we do to kids.
We we try to tell teenagers thatby the time you're done with
high school, you should know what you want to do with your
life. That is bullshit.
Ridiculous bullshit, yes. From yeah, a teaser.
Yeah. And it is bullshit.

(01:05:41):
And kids shouldn't know what they want to do at 18 years old.
That's unrealistic. That's not that's not OK.
And we should give them a littlebit more time to figure out what
they want to do. They shouldn't have to flee the
nest at 18. I mean, maybe, but you know what
I mean? Like, yeah, I just, there's so
many. Pressure things, but don't hold

(01:06:02):
them to a stupid expectation. And also don't say like you
should know now, you shouldn't fucking know now.
Like none of us knew then, none of us knew then.
And we all regret it by age 35. And so could you have helped us
out a little bit there before? Like it's and Robyn could have
shared some helpful advice, but instead all she shares is

(01:06:22):
unhelpful advice. They're like, wouldn't it be
nice if everyone's like, OK, Robyn, we heard your helpful
story. No one ever says that.
Thank you, Hussie. Thanks, Lussie.
Oh my God, that's so great. I know I'm like I have tangent.
Amen, Amen, Amen. We're we're feeling some
feelings. To like, I'm pissed.
Like I'm so pissed. I want to, yeah.

(01:06:44):
It's OK everyone. I'm safe.
I feel safe. It's.
OK, I'm so glad you called that out.
Yeah, just wanted everyone. To know, I think they were
concerned. Our keep sweet moment for this
episode comes to us from Sarah Taylor, who left a comment on
Spotify on a recent episode. Well, I think it was our last
one that came out and we are talking about the 800 numbers.

(01:07:08):
Oh my God. Oh my God, no.
When we were volunteering, 800 numbers for people that still
support Robyn. Recommending.
Right Recommending you know what?
If you still support Robyn at this time, here is a support
number for you. Supporting, supporting.
We're supporting. There's a lot of.
Support. We are only here to help.
We are just some really, really effective bras over.

(01:07:28):
Here, I really love how Chris. I stopped talking about how my
mom was grabbing my. Titties.
No, but you did like a full, full grasp of the right titty,
and you shook her up and down. Support.
Do you want the right support? And we were trying to give
people the right support for if they are supporters of Robyn, if
they feel like they need to be there.
For Robyn, because we're worriedabout.

(01:07:49):
You we're very concerned. We want to make sure to share
the resources available. And so we reviewed a few 800
numbers on a previous episode and Sarah let us know that
another great example was 1800. Stop it.
Oh my God. Is in 1800 STOPIT which is
great. STOPIT is only 6 letters.

(01:08:13):
See, we second guessed ourselveseven in the episode and I'll
look here we are today right now, but we just added extra
digit on there. Sarah 9 And then we're good.
Stop at 9:00. No fuck 1800.
Stop it and suggest get some help lol like with a laughing

(01:08:34):
emoji And it's like that's so amazing.
Now what's great is I actually called 1800 stop.
It turns out 1800 stop it is notthe correct number of digits you
need. Dooby Doo.
So I'm dialed on my iPhone 1800,stop it.
And I hit the little green phoneand it was like Verizon cannot

(01:08:57):
connect you with this number. And I was like, this is the
perfect number for people that support Robyn.
If you need help, call 1800. Stop it because you know who's
going to be there for you, exactly who you need.
I know we can buy website domains, but can we buy?
Phone numbers. To just play a recording,

(01:09:20):
Robyn's voice pops up or. Something.
Oh my gosh. Oh, that.
'D be so good Sarah, thank you. That was a gem.
I was just going to say, you know, it's funny.
I bring this up because, Sarah, I was using your example as
something that was funny about people like 1800.
Stop it because of supporting Robyn.
But if you're telling US1800 stop it, then I'm going to

(01:09:42):
pretend to be that. Changes everything.
Changes everything. We would love it if you would
clarify. Right.
Please let us know. If you love us or if you hate
us, please. Tell us if you wanted us to stop
or Robyn to stop. And if it's us, that's fine.
I'll put money on Robyn, but my eyes have been opened, my ears

(01:10:02):
have been closed, and my legs have always been a jar.
So we're at a great place to endthis episode.
Thank you, everyone, for joiningus.
In Episode 2 of Season 3. We did talk to some teenagers
about sex, but really only for asecond.
And then we called the whole episode that, even though there
were other things that were far more large in scope.

(01:10:23):
So, you know, you're listening to us talk about Sister Wives.
This is what you've come to expect, hopefully.
God bless, Amen, the Father, theSon and the Holy Spirit.

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