Sister Wives Season 20 Episode 6 Recap - We're Not Brother Husbands - My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie, Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love

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you. Season 20 episode 6 We're not
brother husbands. How are we already 6 episodes in

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by the way God is flying by. It doesn't seem like when you're
watching it, but God is flying by.
There is that duality of finishing watching an episode
and being like, Oh my God. But then yeah, like what
happened? But we're already in November
and like, it's almost the end ofthe year, which is still just
weird on all fronts. That is true.

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That is true. Time flies for the Browns, and
for us. When we're having fun.
Yeah, you're having fun in quotes.
Yes, yes, yes. We opened the episode at Robyn
and Kody's beautiful new MC Mansion and Flagstaff.

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While I was looking around, I did notice there were things on
places we were wondering in the last episode if we would.
They didn't really tell us when this was, but the holidays have
passed. There were no Christmas trees.
There were no Christmas carols, the kind of music you love to
hear in the show. Right.

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Shucks. Yeah, so that's all past and
some of Robyn's things have beenput away.
Well, Kody basically begins the episode by saying we will be
moving in for a while, right? Like a while.
And at first I thought he was saying that as in, we're going
to live here for a long time. And then I was like, no, he

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means unpacking. Yeah, for a while.
Yeah, all those totes. Yeah.
The thousands of totes. There'll be shit everywhere.
Yeah, now in the shots they gaveus, it didn't look too
cluttered, and I think that might have.
Been intentional garages. Right.
But of course we have Robyn unwrapping her Waterford crystal
glasses and I was like OK, now are those the knock off glasses

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like I have or are they real things?
And the wrapping paper did say Waterford.
It did. She had the original tissue
paper around, said Crystal. And she said she had to unpatch
it or unpatch it, unpack it to put it in the China hutch,
obviously, right, Because now she has a hutch for her China.

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Yeah, which is really nice. A second to her third.
Yeah, she'll have to get a few more, probably.
He probably will, yes. Yeah.
There's just something about setting up a scene being like,
I'm going to take out the Waterford crystal that really
sets the tone. And what tone that is, I'm not
sure. But definitely not that they are
struggling or that money should really be of any concern for

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them. Like if I was working with the
producer on the show and I'd be like, let me start by opening my
crystal. I'm not doing that because I'm
like, I'm broke. So there's nobody.
Comes in and makes a big deal out of it.
Oh, busting out the crystal, youknow, And she's like, I have to
unpack it to put it in the hutch.
Like this is every conversation of theirs is like a miss in

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energy. Every single one is a miss in
energy. It is fucking weird.
And this is the smallest example.
Yeah, And it Yeah, it, it, it is.
It's like, who are these people?How are they together?
What are we watching this entireepisode?
Kody lets us know that there arepotential buyers for Coyote

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Pass. Oh, they're pretty solid on two
of the how many parcels of property?
This is what I don't like about the property conversation.
I still don't have a clear picture of what this means.
You know what, I did get a clearpicture of Kody's balding head.
That's what I got a clear picture of because he was

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leaning down while he was talking to Robyn.
And we've gotten this a few Times Now with the second story
camera angles down. We've seen a couple of times.
You know, if you're going to fixit in your interview and
spotlight moments, just maybe start every day by fixing it

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because it is apparent when you do not have those little
tendrils to the side pinned backto cover up the bald spots.
OK, so we either have to just suck it up and give in to the
fact that your hair is is leaving your head or you need to

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be more consistent. I think after this season I
don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Kody like
doing the like post plastic surgery movements where like he
never like looks down like ever.Like he doesn't give the camera
any opportunity to see the top of his head.
Right, because he's going to realize how much his baldness

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has been shown to the world. Yeah, great divide.
I understand that there are things that make people very
insecure and for men this is onefor a lot of them as they age
and I just wish again Robyn would drug him in his sleep and
just take care of it. Yes, you have suggested the
drugging before. And yeah, it's weird when men

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don't lean into the like, embracing the thing and making
it work for you. Not only don't lean into it,
actively lean away from it and mask it.
You know, half of the time like.Yeah, his hair is very
distracting. Other than that, I apologize.
I think you were talking about the property.
Well, no, just the parcel. I feel like they're

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intentionally unclear about the details and that's probably like
a production tactic. Like there's something about
names being on things and this is all public record now.
Like we could go find it. I could Google it right now and
say, but I don't really want to.We're watching ATV show and
they're not clear about it intentionally.
And they say like, oh, this piece of property that's ours

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and this piece of property that's yours.
But then it's like, that's not even how it works.
Like there's not just two parcels, there were multiple
ones and whose names end up on what?
And they're very vague about it.At the beginning, I think they
are, but I, I think part of whatthey did tell us as we went
through it was I didn't even want to know, but I did hear it

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unfortunately, was that they, I think right now, in this moment,
Kody and Robyn's names are on two of the parcels and Janelle
and Chris, Dutch, Christine, Meri have one each with code
like it's, it's like it is still5050, kind of.

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But I think how it ends up is that their names are on every
single plot of land, all of themequally so, but it's loggy.
Logical thing that we've been talking about since the
beginning and it seems like Janelle and Meri have advocated
for but I don't know they they leave things where they do for a
reason as far as the storytelling Robyn Hall has she

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has some sobbing moments this episode this one I'm not sure
that she cried but you know moving on from coyote past means
that the family has failed so she's having a real hard time
with that it's. Really hard for her to let go.
It's. Really hard for her to let go.
And Kody is sure to tell us thatRobyn is a special person who

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feels very deeply. Yeah, she's a very special
person. She is a special person.
We all agree to that after Kody tells us that Robyn's so special
and she feels everything. They go back to them in the
house and Kody says that he's going to set up a Zoom call with
Janelle and Meri to discuss somethings about the property and

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update. All of that happened and nothing
happened. So that's this show.
That's the show. Robyn tells us that when it
comes to the property, she feelslike on good days, Kody's going
to be fair, but on bad days Kodymight be a little unfair.
And she told Meri, if I have anysay over this, it's going to be

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fair. To which I say L0L 0L0 L, right?
If Robyn says if I have my way, then that means Run for the
Hills by Barker. Like you're insane.
Polly's One of the things that Kody says that I thought was
funny is he tries to give some justification about why it's
taken so long to get to this point in that while Meri and

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Janelle could just want more andmore and more.
And he he goes like, like the selling of this property is like
opening Pandora's box or something.
I mean, he makes it appear that way.
And it's like, what the fuck areyou talking about?
Like, they just want to know that you are doing this.

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Remember, Kody, how you've decided to not communicate with
anybody about anything that's happening And so they they don't
even believe that you'll give them what's in their best
interest. Shocking.
Yeah, you'll get your 25% then leave me alone.
Leave me alone. And I'm going.
Do you have any evidence to the contrary, Sir?

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You sound a little delulu, like I'm making like conspiracies,
like, oh, well, they're going tocome after me.
Like what? To fix the problem that you
created, right? Like you created this problem by
not communicating with anyone about the intentions of this
property. You've acknowledged it and said,
yeah, oh, I guess I should have just communicated because they

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thought I was being, you know, sneaky, ha ha, whatever.
And they're mad because I didn'tcommunicate.
And now you're like, oh, but they're being greedy.
They're not. They just want you to give them,
at the bare minimum, the split of this fucking piece of
property, you idiot. Like, you idiot.
These women have nothing else going for them.

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That sounds mean. They need this financially.
It's not that they have nothing else going for them.
But come on, come on. 25% is notexactly a high percentage.
In fact, I think they should be getting 33% and that's the legal
case I would be making. If I was Meri or Janelle, I
would be using my attorney to say, Oh no, no, no, you guys get
a third and then I would let a judge determine that.

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So I think he's getting off pretty easy and he has taken so
many delays that it's almost like, how could that not be a
legal issue in and of itself? Well, and I'm like, listen, be
happy they aren't trying to fight you for the 33% of it.
Be happy that they are not trying to take a third of
Christine's property, that they technically should be able to.

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So, like, get out of here. Absolutely.
And, you know, I, I, Yeah. He's such an asshole.
He's so selfish. Like he always seems to come
ahead on every deal. Like there's, he always just
seems to find a way to be the one that gets a little more than
everybody else. Shocking.
And that's why he's so suspicious of that.
Meanwhile, they've been waiting for years.

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They're like, just give us what was owed.
Like, Oh my God. When it gets towards the end of
the episode and they're all like, OK, great, sounds good,
thanks. Like about fucking time is what
they're saying, you know, And also it is very funny because up
until this point, at the end of this episode, if this is all
there is about Coyote Pass. PS By the way, like we were

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expecting some drums to come in this season about this.
And so far all it is is behind the scenes speculation.
And then if this is really it, and then they're done.
Right. Yeah, the apology tour surely
needs to start any second, right?
Because what else do we? Update Draw out the signing of
the paper for like 4 episodes. I had to make sure they

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corrected my my last name spelling that wasn't correct.
We got to follow Meri to the local notary at Parowan.
Just like the the notary slash, you know, subway slash,
whatever. Like my God.
No, wait, Jen. Has become a notary and they
yeah bike shop. Oh my gosh, they do notaries at

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the bike shop. She hasn't nailed that one
already. She needs to.
She needs to. That would have been a great
plot point too. Was like there's fraud in the
notary because Jen did it. That would have been some drama.
PS Neighbor Jeff Notary, just incase we ever need.
It Oh my God, really. Literally.
Oh, that's amazing. We're going to have an interview
with neighbor Jeff on conversations coming up.
Yes. And I think Notary might have to

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come up. Yes, I just want you to know.
And he takes it very seriously. So don't you dare try to get
anything over and that man. I wouldn't bring Kody Pass to
him. No, no, I shouldn't say.
Did I say Kody Pass? I think, I said.
Kody, pass. I said Kody, but I think you met
Coyote. But then I was like, it's close
enough. I met Kody.
Kody Pass. Now we're going to Salt Lake

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City. Oh my gosh.
We're going to have dinner with David and Christine at some
Italian restaurant. Yes, we're not at Mexican
restaurants anymore. Now we're at Italian
restaurants. That's one of the things I've
noticed. I I thought that the chairs,
they were sitting, the decor waslike, oh, we're trying, but
we're not quite getting there. Sure, the restaurant's fabulous,

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but I was like, there's a reasonthat this is Christina David's
favorite restaurant. Looks definitely like a step or
two up from previous establishments that this family
has visited. And probably a step or two down
from my favorite restaurant, butyou know, it is what it is.
There's this talk between Christine and David about having
partners and like where they're currently at and how they like

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it. And it was so milquetoast to me.
I didn't give a fuck like it was.
Very blah blah blah. And like, Fast forward, yes, she
did tell us how much she loves monogamy.
I love monogamy. David can't get away from me.

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Yeah, she's like, it's great. It's so easy.
It's so comfortable. We're always together.
We start our days together, we end our days together.
Our whole days are together. We talk about everything.
We just. And he's like, yeah, what was it
like for the other guy? You know, he's like, what was it
like? And it's like he's only bringing

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up this because he looks. Cuter.
Did he do something? He looks cuter.
He his smile and the last this no, his smile is more genuine.
It's better there's something I don't know if it's if he's
taking edibles, good for him, but something is happening more

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naturally for him. Okay, in reaction with maybe
it's just amount of drinks taken.
In thinking maybe more the Ness or the aura because I think he I
don't think he looks any better,honey.
No, I don't. I I am going to be very clear.
His actual appearance has not changed.

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What has changed is his way in which to laugh at a joke and
seem like he is really meaning it laughing wise.
There's a big genuine smile thatcomes out now that I don't, I
don't. I don't recall registering it
before. I think it has started and when
he smiles and gives a good old natural smile, not unattractive.

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OK, I'm not saying attractive, OK, but I'm saying not
unattractive. Well it does align with his only
needing subtitles like twice this episode.
I I so maybe he is stoned and it's all coming together or
something. Something is loosened up a
little bit, I think, and that hecan laugh normally.
Well, they are. I would.
Say that that is more attractivethan him not doing that.

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Sure. Well, they definitely are lubing
themselves up with some libations at this dinner we did.
He is drinking a martini. Yeah, with olives in it and we
saw. At least one empty one, yeah,
and a full one, yeah. And I'm pretty sure that
happened a couple of times. Well, and as Dorinda says,
martinis are like boobs. 2 are great, 3 is too many and yeah.

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I can't do 3. Martinis.
I have 3 martinis. I'm the guy that's like, I need
to go home now. Yeah.
And who knows what Chris, I don't.
I didn't catch what she was drinking.
I assumed it was wine, but I think it was wine.
Yeah, at first I thought the martinis were hers.
And I was like, oh. My God.
But I don't think they were. It'd be like when she had her
two week pill addiction for her book.

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It's like, oh, I was addicted topills for two weeks.
Like girl, Oh my God. Yeah, I like Christine getting a
little boozy, actually. I think this is fun.
I am happy about this. And I think that while we're not
used to seeing it, I, and I knowwe don't love Christine right
now. And I'm not trying to say that I

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love Christine, but I like Christine more with booze than I
like Christine without booze. And that's a shock for this
podcast. Well, we so rarely drink or
around people that drink. Never, ever, ever.
Christine talks about keeping score in her previous
relationship, which seems quite obvious that you would do in a

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plural marriage in a polygamous.I mean, you keep score in a
monogamous relationship, frankly.
I mean, it is what it is. People can pretend like they're
better than that, but you can only be so good about it.
Don't you think there are those?It's just one of those things,
though, that people either do keep score or they don't.
Like Janelle was like, no, I don't have time.
Fucking keep score. But Meri was like, yeah, of

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course you're going to keep. Well, this is it.
But Janelle says she was too busy.
She was too busy, too busy. But then by the end, she
basically agrees that she still was like, yeah, but when he
spent too much time with other people like it bothered.
Me. Like at some point it probably
registered to me, but it wasn't like in the forefront of her
mind, whereas Christine was tallying like the hours.
Right, that's true. It was, it was different.

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But yes, she was very clear thatshe kept score and and she was
not proud of that. I'm like, bitch, please.
That was your whole life story. Well.
Maybe she's not proud of her whole life story, honey.
I mean, OK, I just think it's funny that she has these moments

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where she, like, reflects back and it's like, I can't believe
that's the type of person I was.And I'm like, Christine, honey.
A, It was fucking yesterday. B, You admitted and knew and
acknowledged that this is what you were doing.
Like, you knew that you were jealous.
You knew you said it. You knew it was bad in the
moment. And now you're pretending that

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you had no idea that you were ever like that.
And you just wish you'd never had been.
And it's like, no, again, I feellike she's making kind of in the
manic episode that we recently did of Season 3 where she was
apologizing, apologizing to Robyn.
And it's like, you're not inherently wrong.
She wasn't inherently wrong about all the things she was mad

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about. And now she's sitting here
saying, yes, I was a keeping score person.
Well, maybe you had a reason to keep score because you weren't
ever getting what you should have been getting like.
Yeah. I just this whole.
There's some alignment with thattoo, with this episode or excuse
me, with this season where they're playing nice for
production and they're kind of maybe leaving some things out or

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doing whatever. But I feel like she's starting
to keep score with Janelle. I think there's something going
on there and it's very on the right now.
We're just on the periphery. We don't get in.
Yes, you are. Very much predicting the future.
But I kind of suspect that there's still some score keeping
happening with Christine. Yeah, this was where David
needed some closed captioning, some subtitles.

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God I just, I hated this. Entire thing.
I just wish we could just cut it.
This is when they were like talking about how Christine had
called him Kody and luckily it wasn't during sex.
But they kept alluding to like, like it was during sex and
trying to be funny. Not funny.
It was gross. It was not a segment worth even

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diving into, No. And David has also called
Christine Margaret before. And it's a marital situation is
how David refers to it. And that does make sense.
People call each other the wrongname all the time.
All the time also. Then Kody gets to give us his
two cents and he says ha ha ha, yeah, I really.
Or no First I think Christine says Kody rarely got anybody's

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name wrong. It happened here and there, but
not he really tried not to. And then he gives himself the
opportunity to talk about how hewould catch himself and at times
he'd start to say to and then like the example he gave was I
was a well, what Janelle likes to do is like he would.

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That's how he caught himself. Like, whatever, shut up.
It was gross. And then he was like, you know,
you know, there's really that one time that you just don't
ever, you just do not ever want to use somebody's name wrong.
And it's when it was so gross. Yeah.

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These people are like children. Yeah, I was very distracted by
Kody's for front teeth during this segment.
I find it to be odd, mostly because this man just moved into
a $2,000,000 home and obviously spent the money on the four new
teeth. I'm not sure what they are.

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You know, I'm, I'm not actually like super familiar with what
people do with teeth replacements and stuff.
They're implants or veneers probably.
Right, right. But I'm going like, why didn't
you just do the whole top row and what dentist would you have
to give? Up some paintings.
With that and some dollies and then like the forefront ones are

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white as like new teeth they are, they are like porcelain
white. And then as other ones are not
even close, they're more like kernel Cobb yellow.
Kernel Cobb. Kernel Cobb butter.
Cobb. Butter kernel cob yellow.
Corn cob yellow. And it's just distracting to me
because I'm like, you definitelyshould have spent the money to

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actually fix your grill. Everything about it is
distracting though. Everything.
Yeah, it fits the brand, but it's just sad.
There's either too much makeup or not enough makeup, right?
Like we're either too red faced or we're too blended together.
It's one of the two, one or. The two two, he's he's had too

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much to like steroids and he's amped up or he's like, I'm just
like, I don't even know, like Ohmy God.
It's crazy. Oh, Kody wants for Christmases
his four white teeth. Sorry.
Oh God. David asks about the other

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sister wives to Christine. You know, she says something
about like, oh, Janelle and I are fine, blah blah blah.
But I couldn't trust Robyn afterI shared things with her and she
would tell Kody and then I wouldget in trouble.
Another example of their immaturity and fucked up
dynamics. You got in trouble?
What does that mean? Like honestly, what does that

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mean when it comes to a relationship?
If you're getting in trouble, then that's a problem to begin
with. Like you have issues with
people, you have interpersonal situations to work out.
You're not in trouble. Like that's parent child, That's
like school discipline. That's not the same thing.
Well, but how do you think it was approached to her after
these things happened? That's well, This is why I feel
like her manic episode in the season 3 was triggered by her

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getting in trouble. And you had said that you had
said that you thought she had a talking to and I, you know, this
is it. So Christine says that she would
tell Robyn things, right? Like in confidence, I would
share this with her. I was trying to bond with her,

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was trying to have that relationship with her.
When Robyn was the safe space inthe family, the communicator.
And then? It would turn.
Around that she told Kody and Kody would come to Christine and
be pissed. Now Kody in a spotlight moment
then just tells us Robyn wasn't being a tattletale, she was just

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advocating for Christine. For their relationships, For
everyone's relationships. Now, OK then, Kody, Sir, maybe,
potentially, possibly you shouldhave received it in a different
way. Yeah, if one wife is
tattletaling on the other and maybe we don't go and then

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attack. Right.
The other wife. Have your other wife be in
trouble. So either Kody or Robyn,
potentially both of them were completely fucked in this
situation. Because yeah, if your wife is
telling you something that another wife said in confidence,
you don't go and use that as like a weapon.
Obviously you try to figure out what that actually is, but.
I'm having a flash to that lunchwhen this is after Christine's

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manic episode, right? That her and Robyn were at that
lunch and she was like, I'm so sorry.
And it didn't have anything to do with you.
It was me. It was it or it was him.
It wasn't because of you. It was because of him, remember?
Yeah, that's a clip from the Tell All that wasn't in the
episode. Yeah, so.

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We haven't actually covered that, but it does happen.
It does happen. So I like, let's take that as an
example. That moment of Christine trying
to have this moment with Robyn where she's apologizing to Robyn
and she's trying to say, look, I'm sorry I haven't been the
best about this, but it wasn't you.
It was him. I wasn't mad at you.

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I was mad at him. Then Robyn takes that to Kody,
and Robyn goes Kody. You know, Christine and I really
had a breakthrough today. Good news.
She's not mad at me. She's just mad at you.
But she's not mad at me. It's not because of anything I
brought to the relationship. It's just because of how you're
handling it. You could totally see it, right?

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Yeah. Like you can totally see it.
Yeah. And then he takes the words of.
Robyn. Robyn to Christine and it's
like, well, what's your problem?Why are you so mad?
What am I doing? What's the problem?
Yeah, I mean, I'd be mad at Christine too.
I'd be like, you're in trouble. That was sarcasm, by the way.

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Robyn referred to herself as a naive fool for thinking that she
could be the person that would be in that role into it
successfully. I wonder if she really thinks
she was a naive fool. I bet she would defend her every
action she made. I don't think she would be like
oh I did something wrong. Like even in saying I'm a naive
fool, she's not actually being like I wish I hadn't done that

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or in retrospect I should have teed it up differently to Kody.
It's just I was a naive fool forthinking I could help.
Like no accountability once again for fucking Robyn.
You know, let's just be honest, Robyn should never have been a
person considered for polygamy. She just shouldn't have.
Robyn is not a person that can balance interpersonal

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relationships like this. I couldn't be one either.
Are you kidding me? Yeah, I wouldn't be.
I could not handle this either. Yeah, she shouldn't have done
this. Why this was her calling, I
don't fucking know. Yeah.
Didn't work out, lady. You did not.
You fucked everything up. You literally fucked it all up.
And then you're just saying I'm naive.

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And maybe you are, but bitch, you have accomplished a lot in
naivete. OK?
Like. Shy, pretty naive.
Wife crazy. Yeah, when we're back at the
table with Christine and David, Christine says that at one point
Meri had called asking to be friends.
And Christine's like, no, you were just mean to me two months

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ago. She knows that I don't want to
be her friend, and I've told herthat.
And why doesn't she get that? Does Meri have a little flash
after that where she's like, look, I guess we've all had
moments of hurt in this scenario.
And yes, there have been times that you could or maybe weren't
able to move on, like, whatevs. Right?

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Like I would try occasionally and maybe it happened or maybe
it didn't and just kind of like,OK, like Meri doesn't ever.
I I I've never seen Meri's response to one of these things
be that she didn't understand where the like she doesn't ever

(29:57):
justify what she did in previous.
It's doesn't she pretty much just own up to and say, yeah, I
mean, if there's if that relationship isn't there, that
relationship isn't there. Like she doesn't ever say, well,
I never did that. This wasn't what happened.
I mean, she kind of has her version of what she thinks
happened and they have their version and they don't get in

(30:18):
the weeds about it a lot. Yeah, at least not now, like
season 20. And with our rewatch, we're so
far in the past. There's a bunch of time there.
There will. Be times.
Where maybe she is more. Currently adult Meri.
But yeah, today's Meri is not, you know, she sees the forest of

(30:39):
the trees or whatever. Like she's not like pulling up
examples and being all this and that.
Like she's just like, OK, if that's what it is and that's
what it is. Christine says that she'd have a
relationship with Robyn's kids if they reached out to her.
OK, lady, sounds like you reallywant it.
I don't see Robyn's kids being like phone that we had a

(30:59):
relationship with Christine, andI don't see Christine really
giving a flying fuck about beinghaving a relationship with
Robyn's kids. I think it's just because it's
something to say. I could totally see it being
something to just say quote UN quote.
But also I really do think when Robyn entered their family, the

(31:21):
intention was for those kids. Yeah.
To enter fully and for them to be additional parents in those
kids lives. And I, I can see where you don't
want that to be messy and confusing for the kids, right?
And if they ever did feel like they had a reason to and did

(31:43):
reach out to her, her being opento that, I think it's just the
that of it, right? Like look, we really did.
We wanted them all to come in and be open arms and sorry it
all got fucked, but like it wasn't their fault.
I hope you have the best, you know, whatever else.
I find that genuine. I find that genuine and I think
that even in this situation, like step parenty is messy

(32:04):
enough with some of that. In this situation, I think it's
even more complicated, right? Now is when we get into
Christine's production fueled random thoughts and strange

(32:25):
hopes for the future and potentially booze fuelled
delusions. I think we need to have a
reunion every year. I don't know what it would mean.
It's like you think the family needs to get together every
year. OK, she does give us the

(32:45):
asterisk of well it would probably be Janelle and I to
begin with, but eventually, you know, be everyone.
A family reunion every year, like.
I mean, I love that idea. Well, I love it for TV.
This is why I'm saying production fueled I feel like.
I don't even think just for TVI think for their actual family,
like I think for the way that their family dynamic was growing

(33:08):
up. And I think that if they could
just get past some of this shit and just, you know, you do you,
I'll do me. But we have all these kids
together that had this big wholefucking life together.
Yeah. And now we've all fucked that
up. And I think as the adults in the

(33:28):
situation, for us all to get together and have us encourage
time for all of our children to come together in that sense.
Yeah, that makes sense. A fucking men and please do this
right. Like please encourage everybody
to get over their shit. Like don't you think they could
all have a decent time for a night slash weekend at a

(33:54):
campground where they can all part way, You know, whatever the
fuck it is, I think they should try.
I think they should do it and I think it needs to be filmed.
Well, of course it should be filmed.
If it's not filmed then I don't care.
Well, fair enough, but I still encourage it even if it's not
filmed for the record. It would be best for their
family. This part just has all of these

(34:16):
direct contradictions to Christine's book about how she
wishes they were no longer doingthe show and this sounds.
She says in her book that she doesn't want to do the show.
More or less she's like, we're just doing it out of obligation
at this point. Oh wow.
And when I say she we, I think I'm talking about like her and

(34:38):
her oldest children that were more participants.
Aspen Mckelty. I don't think she's speaking for
everyone, but for her and her kids.
She's just, I don't want to say she says she's phoning it in
because that's not what she says.
But they are obligated to film ATV show and that's what they've
been doing for a little bit. Robyn comes in with all of her

(35:00):
knowledge and her wisdom. There's toxicity in this family.
That was a big word for her. I was really proud of the use of
the word toxicity. That was big for her, yeah.
But then we were followed up with a phrase like there's a lot
of crap talk. Crap talk and nasty behavior.
She thinks it's a bad idea she got.

(35:24):
Toxicity somewhere and she's like, I got to hang on to that
one. Yep, she read that in a book.
No, no, no, no. She she saw it on a social media
clip and she was like, that's a good word to use to describe
others in my family, not me. I can't even be surprised or
like barely react when she sounds so stupid.

(35:45):
Yeah, like I still can't. She has slowed it down enough
for us. Yeah.
That it doesn't sound as dumb. Yeah.
But it still is dumb. It's just slower.
It's. Just slower and she finds a
random word like toxicity which has more than two syllables, so

(36:06):
she's good. Synonym for bad, she googled
Toxic. But she wouldn't even be able to
do synonym. No, I'm like I she'd be like
word that means yeah, I'm like. Word that means my family's bad.
We have to come to the word actual toxicity because she
can't take toxic and turn it into that so.

(36:27):
There's a journey there and a journey.
There's a. Journey and I'm.
We don't want to go down. Very sad I even experienced part
of it. Part of it now we're going back
to Kody and Robyn's house in beautiful Flagstaff, their home
next to like a dirt mine or somesort of, you know, red dirt pit
where they pull up red dirt and it goes all in the air, which is

(36:49):
why their house is red. And we open with Kody talking
about having mutual friends withMeri and Janelle and their
lawyers and how the discussions have been along the lines of
when we're done with the property and dividing things.
Everything should just be done. It's like, right?
Like how many years, how many conversations, how many times

(37:13):
does someone have to say it to your face that that's what
should happen? I mean, this episode had a few
of these Epiphany and putting epiphany in air quotes moments
for him where he was like declaring something where it's
like, well, you either just wokeup to something that everyone's
been telling you for years or you're directly contradicting
yourself from 20 minutes ago. Like he's so much so.
I certainly hope their property value has only gone up since

(37:37):
he's prevented this, right? I'm guessing that's the case.
Yeah, I'm guessing, but if. Not.
Then those other bitches would have had a whole nother fight to
you know what I mean? Like.
Kody's getting ready for the Zoom call with Meri and Chanel,

(37:57):
the most cutthroat, high pressure, insane Zoom call I've
ever been witness to in my life.Don't you wonder like how many
times did they draw out the pause?
Like that's what I would like toknow.
Like in production. And probably none.
Like, you know how sometimes they'll add a pause and make it
seem I think these pauses were longer and they were like, we

(38:22):
actually can't have this be on film.
It was so uncomfortable. Lot of pauses, bad.
Lot of dead air, bad, bad. So much dead air.
And it just pains me because of course Robyn doesn't need to be
on the call according to Kody. And I'm going you people are so
fucking stupid. You're a 25% stakeholder in this

(38:45):
situation apparently. And you just don't have to join
the call cause Kody doesn't think you need to.
Oh, isn't that nice? How funny is that?
So he made her just his spouse and not property holder, right.
So Robyn has a little spotlight moment where she's like, well, I

(39:05):
asked Kody if I should be on thecall and he said probably not.
Right, right. Oh, because she can't handle her
emotion. It'll put her in a bad place.
Was Kody's side. No.
You just didn't want a third woman looking at you and saying

(39:26):
is this correct or is this not? You do.
You couldn't have three on one. You were OK with two on?
1. You couldn't have 3.
When they've had other conversations, I'm having
flashbacks to ones particularly with Kody and Meri, where Robyn
is at the table in the picture. In the picture, Excuse me?
And she asks questions that Kodydoes not want asked.

(39:48):
Like, why are you asking for more clarification?
She isn't. Stop bringing it up.
And it's like, you know, Robyn. He set a boundary, right?
He set a boundary there and she did not seem to love it.
Oh, I didn't. Ohk OK, I didn't pick up on
that. I just thought that she was kind
of mindless. I think that she registered that

(40:11):
she wasn't there and I don't think that was comfortable.
For her, well, that would be like what a normal person.
A normal spouse would say that if you are selling a huge chunk
of property that is between yourcurrent husband and two of his
ex wives whom were in the marriage while you have been.
Yeah, your sister wives, his ex wives, but your sister wives,

(40:35):
25% stakeholder. Oh, I don't need to be on the
call. And this is even those
conversations like a reference with Meri or other times, it's
almost like this is where I can't, I don't know that Robyn
is 100% bad or evil or whatever because she does have these
random moments of like trying todo the right thing.

(40:57):
And I'm not sure that they're only performative.
They do seem to be easily, like,bulldozed, like they don't ever
seem to, like, make anything better because Kody just, you
know, railroads or whatever. But I don't know.
Do you think I'm giving her too much credit here?
I think it's a mixed bag and I understand your confusion
because I also agree she's an idiot.

(41:20):
It doesn't seem like she's even smart enough to come up with the
ways to manipulate things. Sometimes.
Now she is like, is there some validity to her naivete that

(41:46):
it's not intentional and she couldn't quite predict how her
actions are going to affect things, but that they do and
they have, and it just gets too far too fast before she can
like, yeah, say, whoa, wait a minute, That's not what I meant.

(42:07):
I think no. I think no.
I fucking think no. Even if that's the case, she
gets to be the victim then, you know, like right, Like I just, I
just. Don't think so because also,
Robyn, you need to start understanding what happens
because of your actions, right? Like you have to pay attention

(42:30):
to this and we've now had about a decade plus of this happening.
So we need to look at our actionconsequence, Action consequence.
We could draw some similar conclusions.
That sounds like some self evaluation honey.
Well, it's not my favorite thingto do either, but.

(42:52):
I was going to say it sounds familiar.
What is that? It definitely is something Robyn
should do. I don't know how but you could
Google it. I could send her a link to like
a YouTube video. How?
Could Robyn Brown really help herself and not repeat the pre
Oh my. In the future, no.
You know what's funny? In the future, AI is going to

(43:13):
take this episode and pull that as a question and like, give it
somewhere. Like, it's so crazy.
So crazy. Yeah, Robyn, if you're listening
ChatGPT, what you should do, it'll tell you use your name.
It'll it'll straight up tell you.
There's a super awkward start tothe Zoom call with Kody and Meri

(43:35):
and Janelle. In fact, it's so awkward that I
was like, oh, these producers are doing him dirty.
I love that the relationship between Kody and the producers
has has changed because they allow this dead air.
They allow the awkward, you know, his question, you know,
the dog is the is there anythingchanged at the Airbnb?

(43:59):
It's just like the dumbest smalltalk you've ever heard.
And I love because Janelle's in the bottom quadrant on whatever
screen they're actually doing when they're showing the Zoom
call. And there's so many times where
she's paying attention, but doing that thing where she's
like not really looking like I'mjust waiting for the for why

(44:20):
we're. Here, I am not here for
pleasantries, right? I am not here for conversing.
No. We are here because you are
meant to give me information. I am meant to receive it and
then I might or might not respond.
Right, right. Is what Janelle is saying with
her eyes. Yes.
And her mouth. So I loved the way that the

(44:41):
producers left in all of these awkward moments because it just
makes Kody look like such a bumbling blockhead.
That's what both Meri and Janelle basically say, like this
fucking fool is going to hop on this Zoom call like, hey, how's
it going? What's new?
Long time, anything exciting happening?

(45:01):
And he basically does that. Like he basically jumps onto
this call, like what's up, guys?And they're like.
Yeah, we are your ex wives discussing property.
We have 0 there is not that we're not pretending or playing
games like they both just stare at and.
Even think that he would join a call and that there would even

(45:24):
that would happen at all 'cause.He's Kody Brown, and who cares?
He's. So dumb.
So he's like, it's gotten weird as, and I can't even say how
weird it's got, Kody says. And it's like, yeah, weird as
fuck. Kody.
It's weird as fuck. You should be able to say it
because that's how it is. Meri's like he's just, he's just

(45:45):
going to act normal. Like no, like, no, I'm not going
to just let you show. Oh my God.
The flashback though. Well, this is it.
So Kody says part of Kody's pretending to not know why the
women are not reacting in this in the way that he would like to
see is that he, you know, he just helped Meri move up to pair

(46:07):
one and everything was cordial. It's gotten so weird.
I don't have any words. They have this flashback of when
Kody's friend Nate, Meri's sister's ex-husband or current
husband, I'm not sure. Someone, somewhere, somehow,
Nate. Forget about how he's involved,

(46:28):
but Nate with the eye, he's pushing Meri Nate.
With the eye. Well, OK, let's go with Nate
with the face. That's a little less specific.
Nate with the face is like pushing whatever and Meri's on
the backside into EU haul and pushes Meri into Kody and it's
her backside. Her butt goes into his penis.

(46:49):
Yep, Yep, she backs it on up. They were clothed and there was
not penetration. And it was the closest to sex
that Meri's had with Kody in a decade.
She was so turned on and so was fucking he.
He loved that he loved. That it was the joking moment
that we bonded them. Also her ass stayed close to him

(47:12):
for far longer. Than they should have there
wasn't like a shimmy away quickly it was like oh.
We're stuck in this. Position.
Yep. Let me bend over and left Kody.
Oh oh. Kody I've never bounced like
that before in my life, not evenin the.
Bedroom, Oh God, I have, I have,I definitely have.

(47:33):
But you know, it's just, it was just ridiculous.
And it is one of the highlights,I'm sure Meri's like, I'm so
glad that was caught on film. You get to see that moment
forever. It's like, Oh my God.
Getting. Off.
But it's also a very a stark reminder of Meri's weight loss
because it's like, oh, Meri was like substantially bigger.

(47:55):
I was like, Meri, good on you. The Ozempic's doing great for
her. She looks great in comparison.
Like I was like, she's looking like me today and I'm like.
Yeah, if we all were taking Ozempic, our faces would be real
skinny. Meri says that she needed
boundaries. He said terrible things about me

(48:16):
and my friends. I was like, Oh yeah, you and
your friends. I think, 'cause he said that.
What he said Jen. Jen.
He said their one friend, Jen. Also, one is enough, I don't
need more than one, one is fine.But did he?
Say that she was a bitch. He called them bitchy or

(48:37):
something. Last season, there was something
where Meri's hung up on this. But of course, it wasn't even
that terrible. It's not like he said, like, you
know, Jen should be shot in the streets.
He was just like, yeah, her and her friend, when they make fun
of me are bitches. It's like, well, I mean, they
are. They are literally building a
season of making fun of him. I'm not saying they're wrong,
but you know, I don't think he'sput out some sort of public

(48:57):
campaign to smear her friends like it's ridiculous.
I don't care about you know whatI'm.
Saying I don't. Give a fuck about Kody's
feelings about anybody that's. Funny, you don't care about
Jen's feelings. Now, Jen, also, no, I don't.
Care. Thank you.
Thank you. Oh my God, thank you.
Just to be super clear. Oh my God, this is yes.

(49:20):
Is it the part that I'm thinking?
Well, I hope it is where Kody asks Janelle if she's heard any
good jokes lately as part of theicebreaker sequence.
The longest icebreaker sequence you've ever seen in your life.
So fucking bad it's. It was so it was uncomfortable.
I felt uncomfortable for that. Like I was like, I'm
uncomfortable watching. He literally is just waiting for

(49:41):
them to say a sentence or two, and they are refusing.
And so he's like, well, you heard any good jokes?
And Janelle's like, now I live with children.
They don't tell jokes. And he's like, well, I live with
children, too. They tell jokes just like, yeah,
mine are younger than yours. Like, it's like this.
And what she's talking about is his grandchildren.

(50:05):
Grandchildren. That he doesn't acknowledge at
all and doesn't even know that there's another one on the way.
Oh, my gosh. It struck me as a moment, and I
don't know this, this was just my, you know, shoddy intuition
that when Janelle is responding and saying, you know, like, no,
I live with children. He said, well, I live with

(50:25):
children and they tell funny jokes.
And she's like, well, mine are younger.
I think at the moment she said it, she realized that she was
talking about their shared grandchildren.
Like it didn't to me feel like athing in the holster or like her
ready to sling insult. I think she was just literally.
Feels like she's talking to a stranger.
She was just replying to him andthen after she's done saying

(50:46):
this she's like Oh my God, I'm talking about our fucking
grandchildren. I bet that's what went through
her mind. No, I'm a serious I think they
look at this man as if he is thestranger to I really, really,
really do. And that is?
Imagine the interactions they'vehad with him off camera, because
he even says we don't know Jack.We haven't met Jack, we haven't

(51:07):
been introduced to him yet. Well, they've seen Jack.
Right. He's probably fucking nuts.
Wow. I have a feeling they have all
been very kind about what they have shared about Kody.
Bryant, right? Yes.
Don't you think? Yeah, like don't you think?

(51:29):
And they keep going just a little bit deeper and a little
bit deeper to just kind of remind him like, you can trash
talk us as much as you want, butI would like to be very clear
that there is more in your closet than there is mine.
And Sir, right, You don't want this scene.

(51:52):
I think they are to an extent, playing some games with this
man, like, OK, OK, yeah, keep going.
Keep telling everybody how much you don't love any of us.
We'll we'll keep letting things come out, you know?
Yeah, I think, I think. Well, we do have a whole season
left, and if this can't be the, this can't be the big thing, we

(52:13):
got to get more. But Kody has some good news.
Oh, he's singing it from the mountain tops.
Justin, our real estate agent, an offer.
I wanted them both to say back, who's Justin?
And then I want. To be Justin, me and my best
friend Justin. Just in case it's that extra

(52:36):
case of beer you bring. Just in case you know.
Well, OK, Justin did bring an offer, which Kody rejected
because they tried to lowball him, but then they came back
with a full asking price of $125,000 per acre.
Now you do the math, he says. You do the math.

(52:58):
So I'm going like damn, I shouldhave looked up how many acres?
Well. This is all public information.
I don't. Know and also that it's funny
that you say 125,000 per acre because he said 125 an acre,
right? And I did not know where the
decimal point should go. Oh, like you assume it might be
less than 125,000 an acre? No, I'm not assuming that, but I

(53:21):
didn't know. OK, yeah, and that is true.
He does. He just says 125.
Coyote Pass was approximately 14acres.
The land was purchased in 2018 and divided into several parcels
before being sold. So this is the thing.
And This is why I feel like they're leaving things vague
intentionally like but. What was the sale?

(53:44):
What was the sale price? Yeah, it's final price for the
14 acre property was 1.5 million.
OK, so 1.5 million / 14 would be125,000 an acre, You're right.
Yeah, OK. They originally purchased the
land for 820,000. The sale resulted in a $680,000

(54:06):
profit for the family divided by4.
Which the assumption in the distribution is that Kody and
Robyn received 750,000 and Meri and Janelle each received
375,000. So you know, after taxes and the
realtor fees and all of that, like what did Janelle and Meri
each get 300K? But that's assuming all of the

(54:28):
land was paid off. Which they did have to pay off
because they had to. They had to pay off the land as
part of. The I knew they had a portion.
What did it have to be 100% paidoff?
I believe so. OK, That's something.
That's what they intimated on the show, yeah.
I, I knew that there was big dollars that had to be put into
it for some period of something,but I, I didn't know if that was

(54:50):
full loan balance. Yeah, and I couldn't, you know,
put my hand on a Bible and say that I know.
This is why I feel like. Me feels like they walked away
with 200 grand and like called it good.
Yeah, well. This is why I think that
intentionally production is leaving it vague.
I think that we will never actually know the specific
details. Yeah.

(55:10):
Kody says they're just working out paperwork to separate the
property to the expectations that everyone has.
It's like, OK, so how long does it take to get deeds updated?
I don't know. I've never done that.
They, the wives, seem to make itseem like it's taking a long
time. Well, I think like I'm just,

(55:31):
this is so irritating because inmy mind I'm looking at it
thinking he did not tell anybody.
This is what we need to do in order to make this happen.
And they can't just go like quick claim deed a piece of
property, like there's a, there's a legal back and forth

(55:52):
that has to happen with all of this, right?
And so they couldn't take the steps to do that in advance of
him actually saying we're selling this property, right?
So now that that's happening, yes, things are going, things
are going, things are going. But he does make it kind of seem
like it's dragging on them or something like it's right.

(56:16):
There's this weird implication. Oh no.
But then what he does is he says, will they expect me to do
all the work? I have had to do all the work.
I had to update the deeds. I had to do the clean up, which
is so great because This is why the producers are wonderful at
this point, you know, Janelle says she's offered to pay for
clean up and she's offered to have her attorney draft up the

(56:36):
documents that are required to update all of the deeds.
Basically, both Janelle and Meri's hands are tied because
they legally can't make these updates like it is what it is.
And Kody has all but said I dragged my feet for however long
like he intentionally did. It even Meri before this said
and I, this is what you were getting AT.
And it took me a second because I just got angry.

(56:58):
I just get angry. I get fucking angry when this
man tries to paint it as if it'sanybody else's fault than his
own. And Meri was like, oh, now, now
you want all these as separate pieces of property like you
didn't before. Like you haven't let us do this
before. Yeah.
And Janelle is basically like, yeah, I'll.
I'll believe it when I see it atthis point.

(57:20):
Like, I don't believe anything he says until it's fucking in my
bank account and I am done. Like, I don't believe it.
And that's it. And they expect me to do all of
the work. What are they going to do?
What are they? What were they actually going to
fucking do? Nothing.
They could have sued him and that's the only thing.
Correct. This is the card in the pocket
where he could be like, poor me,woe is me, woe is me yet again,

(57:44):
all of the things poor Kody, yetnobody else could fucking do
anything like that's. That's the beauty of how these
narcissists set themselves up right is that nobody else
literally can do anything, yet he can play blame game all day
long. And then he wraps up talking
about this whole thing by basically saying that I have to

(58:06):
do all of this. And then when I do all of this
and I give them their money and then they're going to be like,
plus, is he trying to steal fromus?
And it's like, well, yeah. I mean, you've dragged your feet
for years and now they're just asking for things to happen.
I personally would be like everycommunication that happens with
that real estate agent, I'm CC Don.
Every phone call, I'm invited toevery in person meeting, I need

(58:27):
to be invited. And if I come, I come.
If I don't, I don't. If you do not follow these
demands then I will sue you. Like they are not strong arming
him. They are basically being passive
in this situation, you know? And blind, Blind.
To the. Situation.
So of course your mind could come up with all of the terrible
possibilities of what that man is doing behind the scenes.

(58:49):
Of course it would. You've given them nothing but
right the reason to do that. You've given them nothing but
the reason to do that. And they're not showing up to
the Zoom call being like, Kody, we do not believe you, blah,
blah, blah. Like they're playing his game
Like no. They're not doing.
They're saying you have information.
I'd like to receive it. Short of that, bye bye.

(59:11):
Bye. Sorry I your your small
grandchildren haven't told me any jokes recently.
Oh, by the way, another one's coming.
He. Yep.
Oh my God, the Browns. America's family.
God, I mean that is pretty on point for how America's looking
now. Well, this is it.
It's like, OK, here we go all. Right, it makes sense.

(59:33):
Fine, I'll give it to you. Yeah, now we're going back to
David and Christine at dinner atthis lovely Italian restaurant,
Cochina Domina. Just kidding.
It's not that Christine talks about Kody's expectation for the
next man in her life after they broke up and how this man should
not mess with their family money.

(59:55):
Which I was like L0L 0L. What money, honey?
Right. Like I think he shouldn't have
been so concerned. Like first of all, what was
that? But second of all, this is when
Christine does her. I know, I know.

(01:00:16):
Drunken slur, basically. Not her drunken slur.
Well, it was weird, wasn't it? I didn't even hear what she said
before this. I know.
I just heard the IT was weird. She finds very interesting ways

(01:00:36):
to pronounce words and sentences, and this is coming
from a boy who can barely speak himself.
It's terrible, Christine says that the next man in her life
needed to like, truly needed to treat truly well, which was
funny. David's response was funny
because he's like, well, she's the one that's mean to me, which

(01:00:57):
I love. Hysterical.
Yeah. And she's like, yeah, you're
right. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. Totally, which is great and I
think demonstrates that they probably do have a good
relationship, you know? Yes, yes.
Kody says that his daughter lives in David's house.
And I should know David, I should be able to discriminate

(01:01:18):
David. And I'm like discriminate.
He should have had the right to discriminate David because his
daughter lives with David and heshould know David now.
It'd be funny to do a a side by side of what David has done for
Truly in the last three years and what Kody has done for Truly

(01:01:41):
in the last three years. Like for real.
Wonder who comes ahead in that? I I would love for one of them
to explain to us what truly enjoys in her life and what
makes her happy and how she's doing as a child.
If one of them could share with us that, that would be really
lovely. Who do you think would have the
ability to do that? Robyn.

(01:02:02):
Oh, Robyn, I am so sorry. That is so silly.
She did not come to the forefront of my mind.
Oh, she's the family mediator, honey.
She's the one that can speak Codeine.
Forget this from time to time. I do forget this now.
Kody really did feel like he hadsome way to feel some things

(01:02:25):
about David because his daughterlives with David.
What he didn't say was anything about how he was trying to have
his daughter spend more time with him.
Yeah. And or why that would be
beneficial for his daughter. He didn't say any of those.

(01:02:46):
Things, yes. There wasn't even a mention of
how much he valued his daughter and the time they spent
together. Just just a control piece that
we wanted to be sure to get in there.
Control that he does not have though, ladies and gentlemen, as
it turns out. He does not have right like
control to do this, as it turns out.

(01:03:06):
Yeah, there's that sealed custody order, sealed custody
situation. So we don't know the details.
All we do now is that Christine definitely has custody of Truly.
That's all we know. And Kody did not get to
discriminate against David. Whoopsie.
Shucks, men's rights. Men.

(01:03:28):
'S rights Kody should have been able to discriminate against
David. OK, white man.
I fully support this discrimination.
That's Let's make more laws for you.
Good Lord. But, you know, Christine does
have some clarity here in her drunken mess of a dinner.
She says we're going to be in each other's lives forever

(01:03:50):
because of the children. And then randomly he's like, do
you want to go on a trip with Kody?
And This is why I'm saying this whole dinner.
It was disgusting. It's like she had like 4 bullet
points she had to hit for production and she was going to
hit him no matter how drunk it took for her to do so and how
idiotic she sounded saying it. Yeah, it was something.

(01:04:10):
It was something. Yeah, David, sure.
I guess and and then she so she says, would you like to go on a
trip together? And then they cut to her like
explaining the trip thing as if everybody was like, oh, do you
want Kody and David should like go to Europe together?
Like like they're over explaining something that nobody

(01:04:33):
ever thought was going to happenanyway.
Oh, I meant a trip on the AT VS.That's what I meant.
I thought they could go ATV riding and then Kody would have
to wear his his big boy panties.Oh yes, we have this to.
Spend time with David in that way.
Kody's big boy panties always have to come up.

(01:04:54):
Yeah, you know. Which we saw at that poop pond
and they were definitely I'll fitting panties.
I'd say that Kody is a good man,says Christine.
We had a lot of good times. She doesn't want us to forget
that. He'd have a blast with you.
You guys would have fun and I don't need to be there.

(01:05:17):
This is why I'm going. She is totally just going
through a bullet list and then being like, I'm just going to
make it sound like it's coming for me, I guess so you should do
this and I don't need to be there.
But she does this, so she goes on her tangent and then David is
like, but but if I was going on this trip with David or with
David, if I was going on this trip with Kody, I just want to

(01:05:41):
be super clear that even if I get along with him and I have a
good time with him and we're like Bros by the end of it and
we're like chilling and it's great.
I just want to be super clear that even if I do that, I'm not
condoning his action, right? Right.
Like I'm not condoning his actions.
But if you want me to go take a trip on ATVs with my bro, then

(01:06:04):
he's going to be my bro by the time we're done with it.
And so you can't. I just need you.
I need to be super clear here. Yeah, we're going to be Bros.
Yeah. I still am not condoning his
action. It's 2 Martini, David.
Two martini, David, I know, I know.
You wouldn't be condoning his actions.

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Imagine if you condone his actions.
I think you 2 having a relationship is a good thing.
She continues to Babble. Doesn't mean you'll be brother
husbands. Except her laugh.
Except her laugh was actually like this.

(01:06:56):
That was that even generous I? Think that was that you cut that
down for time. A lot generous.
The laugh it was this is where Iwas scratching my head going.
How drunk is she? Pretty drunk because I feel like
I'm on the same level. We're doing great, yes, so.
Christine could be on our podcast at this point.
Oh my gosh, Can you imagine how fun?
That would be funny. Christine, come explain

(01:07:17):
yourself. Christine should be like, how
many drinks do I need to get there?
Yeah, all right. Be like, there's a three drink
minimum to be on my Sister Wivespodcast and you clearly can get
that minimum. Yeah, she'll be fine.
She'll be fine. Kody explains the stupid joke
about brother husbands. So dumb no one cares.
OK brother husbands, who cares? And then he adds a really
special line about how guys don't work that way.

(01:07:40):
No, no. Guys don't work that way because
guys. Yeah, there's not that
comparison bit. Could never be OK with their
wife having a second partner. Guys don't work that way.
But it's crazy that it's hard for some females to do that
right? Like, it's crazy that that's

(01:08:02):
tough for women in a polygamous marriage.
That is nuts that that is so hard for them.
Hard to believe. Guys could never, but women.
Why the fuck can you not get it together?
Yeah. Simple.
Question. Interesting question.
I mean, you did marry me and I thought that you were chubby and
physically repulsive. Why didn't you make this work

(01:08:23):
with your sister wives? And look at the life I gave you.
It's. Like a knife in the kidneys when
you left me after all these years of me neglecting you.
Fucking moron. He's so dumb.
Kody does this weird impression of the wives saying they don't
want more husbands. Do you remember what this, or

(01:08:44):
maybe that's what you were referring to is?
But I feel like he did an impression of SO.
I don't know if he did an impression, but he did say well
most of them barely want one husband let alone multiple.
Like none of them even want to get married again.
Like they're so fucking done with this.
Thanks to him. They're like goodbye.

(01:09:05):
Totes relate. Yes right, like totes relate to
that. Nope.
I have tried one too many times with the one too many men and
that is a plenty for me. I have 0 you know like they're
like are you kidding me? I spent 20 years with this man
that ruined my family. Like I think I'm OK without any

(01:09:29):
men that can do anything for me for a hot minute, right like.
Which Christine, you know, she did find David suspiciously
quickly, but that's another suspicion to talk about on
another day when we get to season 19 or whenever.
That sounds like a long time. Yeah, it'll be a long time from

(01:09:50):
now. But you know an Amen for them
and I think that's great too. But I just come on.
Kody's joke is that most of his ex wives barely want one
husband. And that's a fair statement, I
think from 2/3 of them. When listening back, like when

(01:10:11):
he watches that, I wonder if he has any understanding of the
irony or the ridiculousness of that.
This is what is so crazy with this man because I think 98 1/2%
of the time that does not exist and that reflection is not
there. I think we have had small,

(01:10:34):
small, small slivers of Yeah, I guess I should have done
different and even at the. In this episode.
There's one even at. We do get one self reflection
from cones. So I don't want to say it's
impossible for this man to have like those pieces where he does

(01:10:57):
reflect, but boy, it doesn't happen as often as it should.
And he puts blame on a whole lotof other people for a whole lot
of shit. And I just, I guess if I was
putting anything into the universe, it's that if you can
see the pieces that you acknowledge this with your
wives, your ex wives, then acknowledge the pieces of this

(01:11:19):
with your children and fix it. Fucking fix it with your fucking
kids. You're not going to get another
chance. You.
It's like, come on, Sir, you know, just gross.
Anyway. Now we're going back to the Zoom
call, which I love because we get even more silent moments,
like the icebreaker. Ness hasn't even stopped.

(01:11:41):
And then Kody says it looks likely the offer will come in
for all of the property and the paperwork is in motion to have
everything split up evenly. And the written offer should be
in in a day or so. A day or so.
That's what Kody tells them. So just before they really
clarify where everything is at, Kody has a little spotlight

(01:12:04):
where he's like, well, it'll be a memory, but but we're moving
on, right? We're moving on.
OK, fine, great, wonderful. They cut back to the Zoom call,
one of the few times sentences were actually spoken, because
most of the time there were not.It was just silent, silent
silence, right? It was awkward, it was crazy,

(01:12:26):
but Kody initially said that they had an offer for two of the
pieces of land, and they had maybe given an offer for the 4th
or something. It.
It wasn't quite clear, but they were hoping that these people
would make an offer for the fullproperty and take everything.

(01:12:51):
So that's what he was hopeful of.
They've had some verbal offers, but at that, at the initial
point in the conversation, this is happening, they they didn't
have that all finalized and Merihad to stop him and question and
say, wait, are they actually considering that or is this just
something you're hopeful for? Like I need to more so

(01:13:14):
understand where they're at withthis.
And then they make it through the rest of that conversation.
And really the answer was they were hopeful at that time.
And then it did pan out that they got the offers for the
entire property. But it was funny that she had to
ask the question of what if? Can you explain to me like
you're saying they did, but theydidn't, but they might, but they

(01:13:36):
could, but they like it wasn't all crisp and clear to like
button up the whole thing in themidst, right?
It was a little, it was a littlewonky, but they did get there.
Now this is where we do get a flashback, which is kind of fun,
where Janelle references that Kody and I had that big fight,
which, OK, I have to throw Janelle under the bus a little

(01:13:58):
bit here, which is she says like4 years ago.
Three years, I don't know, and it's time.
And Janelle's give a fuck. Machine, meter, gauge, whatever
is broken. Cool, fine.
She doesn't give a fuck. But I'm also like girl, like
sometimes I do wish she was a little bit more on top of some
things like, oh, it was three years ago, four years ago.

(01:14:18):
I don't know. Like it's like, Oh my God.
Like, I don't know. It just how long was it?
I don't know production and how far behind we were when that was
displayed, like when that was onthe actual show versus, you
know, cuz at that time, I think they were like a year and a half
behind with filming or maybe 2 years.
And then with Garrison's passing, they had to speed up.

(01:14:39):
And it's OK. It's just me nitpicking as a
producer being like, no, why don't you fucking know how many
years ago it was that you said fuck you and your husband
stormed out and your relationship was done?
Like was that three years ago or4?
Like I just, there's something about the way she approaches
things where I'm a little like, yeah, This is why things slip
through the cracks with you regularly.
This is why you're actually not on top of all your shit.

(01:14:59):
But that's OK, whatever, don't need to get too into it.
Oh my gosh, I feel like she's more on top of her shit than
everybody else has been. Yeah, that could be true.
I mean, they're all pretty shitty at like everything they
do, but you know, like. I'm like, Oh my goodness.
Yeah, I mean, it just, it just stuck out to me is she's so

(01:15:20):
flippant about some things whereit's like, you know, it's funny
that we were just talking about flippant as a term in a recent
episode and I was like, they're not even like.
Whatever. I hear you.
I hear what you're saying. It shouldn't bother me, but it
did. That's the point.
Fair enough. OK, now we're going to Parowan
because we need to hear from Meri and Jen.
We haven't, we haven't had enough of Meri and Jen.

(01:15:42):
They've barely been in this episode.
So now, well, actually I think this is Jen's first appearance.
So we are in Lizzie's Heritage Inn and Meri and Jen are
assembling furniture for Meri's new office space.
It's a two person job, those IKEA instructions.
Meri brings Jen up to speed. She says, you know, we had this

(01:16:04):
call, we talked about selling the property.
Jen asks will the money go through his hands?
Meri's like it better not. I'm like, what do you mean it
better? Not like what are you talking
about? Like how do you not know?
She did know. She did say, OK, at this point
every single one of our names ison every single piece of
property. So nothing should go through

(01:16:26):
him. It should all go to each of us
individually and be split up. And that way that is what the
paperwork is showing. So she did know and she did
validate that That is accurate, just to be super clear.
Thank God someone finally knows something.
Now they threw some shade to Kody.

(01:16:46):
Oh, shock. About getting the chainsaw stuck
in the. Tree in the tree, yeah.
Because Jen's whole joke to marry was like, well, he'll say,
I cut down this tree. Yeah.
And I was like, OK, Jen. Yes, yes, that's why he deserves
more money. Because.

(01:17:07):
He did some stuff. Yes, like I am here for it and I
receive it and I appreciate you for it.
That was a good one. OK, that was a good one for Jen.
And so, yes, then Meri made a joke about Kody getting the
chainsaw stuck in the tree. Yeah, which is a shitty thing.

(01:17:28):
And it's like a chainsaw stuck is not no bueno, no good.
We are not happy with this. Everybody is pissed.
Everybody is pissed. And so.
Glad it happened to Kody then. Now we're going to the other
side of the country. We're in our airplane flying
across the skies of this great land known as America, and we

(01:17:52):
get a spotlight moment from Janelle to open up saying that
it's been a few days and now they have a signed offer.
They have a signed offer. Do you know what I I do have
something to add right before wetalk about the offer.
The music that was happening here was total 90s chick flicky

(01:18:13):
like positive transition into a new moment music like it was.
I wish I could figure out the right way to say it.
It was intentional and it was not like practical magic.
I'm saying like optimistic, happy, we are doing into new

(01:18:35):
things. So great.
Just want to say that was happening in the background.
This was like good moment, good vibes coming from this music
behind us. And then we're met with Janelle
being like, yeah, this is it. We got a signed offer and the
enthusiasm level was like a three.
Well, which I mean, what is it supposed to be?
I guess I would assume A5, but like it is Janelle.

(01:18:57):
So we're going to give it a three.
We cut to Janelle and Maddie sitting on the front step of
Maddie's home, enjoying some cocoa or some coffee in their
little mugs. Oh, they're just so quaint, so
cute. Now we really need to take
action. There's a contract.

(01:19:17):
I love this status update because it was so kind of fake,
but then also kind of not because she's just filling
Maddie in for the first time. Like don't believe that of
course, but it is an opportunityfor Janelle to reiterate that
all the names will be on all of the property, which is great we
get to hear. That for all pieces.
Yep. So we're we're getting a clearer

(01:19:38):
picture. And I love that so much.
And, and the reason they did that after everything was
because if they had the potential for only one piece or
two pieces to sell, yes, they wanted to make sure that
everybody got a portion of what?So there wasn't the bitterness
back and forth about that. I'm assuming, of course, but

(01:20:00):
duh, right. Like, duh.
But everything was equally splitbetween every.
Between everybody, and maybe this is the issue that I'm
having with the way that this isbeing presented is because I'm
hung up on production being vague.
Even a sentence like that would have been so helpful to a viewer
like me. I'm not trying to stick my head
in the sand about the properties.

(01:20:22):
I'm just going like, why can't you just say a fucking sentence?
Like all of the names are on allof the pieces of property.
Regardless of what the offer is,we will all be OK because of
that outcome. Like, I don't feel like I
actually ever heard that. I think because Kody was
unwilling to say that that untilKody had to fucking say.
That. Like, I think that's why.

(01:20:44):
I think it's because he was like, I'm not sure is this the
right way to do it? And I think he probably had some
people weigh in about some thoughts, feelings and opinions
because I don't believe that he just immediately thought, yeah,
OK, now we should just do that. That's OK.
I think he knew that there wouldbe significant push back if he

(01:21:07):
tried for anything different andit took this moment for him to
get to that fucking place. I think that's all that was all
that was. And I do think it was him.
And no, he wasn't always wantingto be fair.
Bullshit. And now he is playing this
victim card. I did all the work.
They thought I was robbing from them.

(01:21:29):
No, you didn't communicate and you were going to be a
sleazeball, but you turned out to avoid the potential legal
conflict that would come from that.
Right. And who knows what they're going
to try to get out of me now. They're always going to come
after me. More and more of or more of my
Mcmansion. So dumb.

(01:21:50):
Well, Speaking of the Mcmansion,Maddie asks a great question.
This was a good question. What about the money that you
gave to put into Robyn's fuckinghouse?
Because we all know that Robyn'shouse was not paid for by Robyn
and Kody exclusively. Absolutely not.
So Janelle has a little spotlight moment where she says

(01:22:13):
something along the lines of it's it's kind of a debt issue.
She said it was considered a gift and it wasn't really
something she was interested in pursuing.
Like she, she was kind of like, eh, just is what it is.
And that's where they bring in Kody and his spotlight moment,

(01:22:33):
saying that it was in January orFebruary and all of our debts
were settled. So we don't really get the
details on that. But I think what we're supposed
to surmise from it is that they had an agreement and that
they're just going to let it go.And I didn't hear opposition
from either one of them. I think that's one of the key

(01:22:55):
points of it is that Kody does say it was settled back in
January or something. And he said that Janelle even
responded back in a message or an e-mail or something saying,
well, I think all of our debts are considered equal at this

(01:23:15):
point. And he doesn't elaborate.
She doesn't push at all on the fact that she's trying to get
this money back from what she invested in the house, right?
She's not giving us this detail that Kody is.
Yeah. But she's also not making it
seem like she's been wronged. Agree.

(01:23:36):
So I, I, I think that whatever she and Kody's agreement is,
whatever they came to is probably likely an agreement.
I don't know what that looks like.
I don't know why she doesn't make that clear to her daughter
because that seems like maybe something you would want to make
clear and maybe she does off camera in some fashion and maybe

(01:23:56):
it's something that we just don't need to bring on camera.
But but yeah, it did seem amicable in that sense where I
don't think Janelle is holding on to a payment that she thinks
she was deserved. I think something must have
helped balance that out at some point.
Yeah, I feel like the obvious things that are just made-up to

(01:24:19):
me would be something like that camper that she bought, she sold
and she kept all the proceeds even though it came from her and
Kody's money. There's something.
That made it something is there Something is there that she
doesn't feel the need to get in the weeds about?
But she is not saying to Maddie like, yeah, no, you're right.
I need that 10s of thousands of dollars back.

(01:24:42):
You know she's not saying that. One thing that stood out to me
about Maddie and Janelle sittingon the stoop having a mother
daughter moment was that at one point Maddie's taking a drink
out of her mug and she sticks her tongue in the mug before
drinking like a lizard. Like then drinks out of it and

(01:25:03):
I'm going is this how people drink out of mugs?
Because I always just put my lips around the mug like I'm
taking a drink. I don't stick my tongue in at
1st and then like gulp it up like I'm a dog or a lizard.
I guess I don't know, but I'll try to pay more attention next
time. This is not a mystery I expect
anyone to solve, and it may be apoint that was ridiculous to
even bring up, but I was wondering who the fuck drinks

(01:25:26):
out of a mug like that? Do you know what I was thinking?
I was like, who sits on their front step and has coffee?
Like, who does that? You know?
But I'm like, how cute is that? Mom?
Should we go sit on the front step and have coffee?
No, like we're not doing that. We're barely getting off the
couch, you know, like, what are we talking about?
But it's one of those like that that was in my brain was like,

(01:25:49):
how cute they're on the front step having coffee.
No, they're not. Has a spotlight moment where she
says that it's sad that the Coyote Pass dream is over but I
have a new dream and it's a better dream which I was like
yes for now. Like that is some shade to throw
right there. I'm going to rewind for just one

(01:26:09):
second because how that started,though, OK, was that people
continuously ask her if she is sad about how this all is
ending. Oh, sure.
And usually she's like, no, no, no, I don't have no, on to new
things, on to better things. No, on everything.

(01:26:31):
Everything's fine. No, no big deal.
And this one, she's like, you know, yeah, it's kind of sad.
I mean, it's not what we pictured for that property, but
I have a new and better dream. You know, that's how she does
it. And it's like hysterical because
you've said over and over again,Nope, I'm not sad.
I'm not sad. I'm not sad.

(01:26:51):
I'm not sad. I'm kind of sad.
But I've got a new and better dream.
OK, now we are going back to Flagstaff for some more
disturbing Kody and Robyn content.
OK, brace yourselves everyone. They don't want it.
Things are happening. Things are happening at the
Brown House at America's Family's home, the Red House of

(01:27:15):
Flagstaff. Kody tells us that a high school
classmate of his that he was in choir with, he has reached out
to Commission a painting of a portrait of he and Robyn, the
one that we have all seen of them kissing on the hood of the
white Lexus. Now, while he's telling us this
story, he starts to sing a song that you would sing in a

(01:27:42):
religious base school, I guess, in high school.
And Ali, do you remember the words?
And would you like to give us? A rendition.
I do not remember the words thatI fucking will not.
Oh, OK, it was tragic and he thinks he's funny and it wasn't.
He burst into song out of nowhere and it was disturbing.

(01:28:02):
Yes, he's he's a choir showboy. So while he's saying this,
there's a transition into him hanging up this beautiful
portrait on the wall, this beautiful picture.
Now, if you haven't seen it, which I don't know how you
couldn't have seen it at this point, but it is the white
Lexus. There's a sunset in the

(01:28:23):
background and Robyn is in Kody's arms in the front.
Their silhouettes form a somewhat heart shape in their
torso with some legs and they'rein an embrace, a loving embrace.
And it was one of their engagement photos.
So Kody commissioned this like 75 inch fucking painting.

(01:28:43):
It is huge and he's. Working.
It is. It's not only is it huge, I
don't want to shade the artist because I can't even really
speak. I mean, there's some dimensional
things, so as some creative I would critique that.
But it's not like it's the worstpainting in the world.
It's just massive and of a horrible photo.
So he's working with his brilliant wife Robyn to get this

(01:29:05):
huge painting on the wall. So we've got to get out the
level, got to find the holes, got to do the nails, got to do
the measuring. And I think he gives us a
precious Pearl. He he tells us about how even
the painting is after they get it up.
And Ally, I feel like you've been dying to say what Kody says
about his measurements and the whatever it's called.

(01:29:27):
You know, I, I'm, I'm just a little confused about why we
even have a level, because if wedon't care if it's level, then
we just don't care if it's level, you know, then we don't
have to use one, right? We just don't have to use it.
OK? Kody does share with us, as he
has hung the painting and is reevaluating the levelness of

(01:29:52):
it, that it is only 116th of a bubble.
Off Thank you. Only. 116.
Of a bubble. Of a bubble, yeah.
So it's like the measuring term that I like to use a Scotch.
Yes, you do say Scotch. And that's not how a level

(01:30:17):
works, right? Just in case we're wondering, I.
Thought it was a very scientificand exact measurement. 116th I
mean. Level is level and not is not
right, you know. Well, he was only 116th of a
bubble off, so it's pretty levellevel enough for Robyn.
So if I was in the room said painting is hung in I would like

(01:30:40):
go get little sticky somethings and like just sculch it up.
Just sculch it up, get rid of that 116th of a blah blah.
Cuz you can do it visually. You know you can do it visually.
Yes, of course. Robyn gives us a whole diatribe
on how she loves the painting. The painting is nice and she

(01:31:00):
loves the painting so much, but I'm just so shy she's.
Just so shy. I'm just so shy.
She's she doesn't know how to display her love for Kody, so I
couldn't dramatically because she's so shy this.
Image of me and my husband out there for the better like.
Right. Kody likes to show off their

(01:31:22):
love. She's very shy.
We let into our home. Yeah, she is making it sound
like she'd never let this man lay a hand on her.
Right, they've been married for a long time on TV.
The fuck picture is she? She has lost her mind.
Honey, she's shy. She's delusional.

(01:31:46):
Yep, Yep. Reality is not Robyn's friend,
no. I cannot.
No. I cannot.
She's so shy that the painting of her of a picture of her own
engagement photo is too much in her dining room.
Now granted it is too much in her dining room because it's
huge and hideous, but that's notthe reason that you.
Should be. That's a different problem.
Right. You should be shy and ashamed,

(01:32:09):
but not for the reasons you are.Booney, Ben Looney.
Tune nuts. This feels like a good place to
take a break. We are going to have the rest of
this episode available on our Patreon, so please subscribe and
you can hear the rest of us talking about this wonderful
episode. Kody Robyn.

(01:32:29):
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