September 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Allie and Chris share a sneak peak into their journey of reading Becoming Sister Wives, the New York Times bestselling book written by a ghost writer, along with Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine, and Robyn Brown. ✨
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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie, Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. Tonight on my Sister Wives
podcast special. That sounded good.
OK. That well, maybe didn't sound
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good, but it worked for me. I.
Give it one more go. Tonight on my Sister Wives
podcast special, that one was probably.
Better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go with that. Splitting hairs at this point.
Yes. Welcome everybody.
This is a special episode of my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. And I'm Allie.
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As you all know, and if you don't know, greetings,
greetings. Salutations, Salutations.
Exactly. And boy, do we have an extra
special treat for you today. So we're doing this project
where I'm reading the number oneNew York Times bestselling book
Becoming Sister Wives, which is ghost written in partnership
with Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Roby Brown.
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Many of you are probably aware of it.
Many of you probably haven't read it because while it is a #1
New York Times bestseller, I'm not so sure that it's the most
popular book. I hadn't heard of it.
We're lovingly calling this bookclub Sisterhood of the Traveling
Husband for obvious reasons. And we're going to play you some
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previews. As always, you will hear the
shallow dives and life changing,truly, truly life changing,
truly life changing rants you'veprobably come to hear from us.
This new book club broadcast will be available exclusively on
our Patreon. You can find the link in the
description of this episode or at my Sister Wives podcast.com.
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But for now, Allie, where are westarting with playing these
clips? Well, at my least favorite part,
Chris, yes. It's true.
With the prologue written exclusively by Kody Brown.
Ohh, our patriarch. Which which really just means
that we get to hear a lot from Kody Brown.
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We do. And it was a lot and I'd rather
not relive it again, but I'm sorry you're having to hear it.
But here we go. Just a couple of highlights from
our time with Kody in this prologue.
He cannot believe that he is getting makeup done for TV
because he is such a quote UN quote country boy.
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Oh yeah. But then in almost the same
breath, he references his obsession with how he believes
he could be confused for a surfer.
Oh, yes, yeah. Which, Yep, totally fell for
that. And it's just more and more
ridiculous shit like that that we would expect from him and a
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lot of it. It is weird that the book starts
with our fearless leader Kody and we don't get to hear from
anyone else for a hot 2nd, but we survived it and so will you.
The story of an unconventional marriage.
Kody Meri, Janelle, Christine and Roby Brown, Sisterhood of
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the Travelling Husband Well, we get plenty of Kody's ego in this
prologue because he's talking about getting his makeup done.
Now. He grew up in Wyoming and he
couldn't ever imagine having hismakeup done, let alone by other
people because he grew up and out on the farm or out on the
ranch in Wyoming. And it's like, oh, you were such
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a bullshitter. Like, he was never like a
country boy. Like give me a break.
I guess the things that he thinks are funny in that sense
are interesting. But then the stylist asks him
what his show is about and he says well I'm a polygamist and
have 4 wives. And then make some reference as
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to how. Well, nobody would believe that
I was a religious fanatic. They would think I was more of a
surfer. A.
Surfer did a surfer. Than a religious fanatic like
again this the the beliefs he has about himself.
I just wow, like to be in that guy's head, man.
Yeah, If I had any of that confidence in myself on a.
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Daily basis. Do you know what I mean?
I also love the reference to thesurfer, 'cause I'm like, that
surfer made a big impact on him.Oh my God, on his honeymoon with
Roby. Like he has a man crush on him
or a real crush, whatever he wants to be, he wants to skin
him and wear him well. Like it's crazy.
He's obsessed with him. Well, as far as he's concerned,
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he is him. That's right.
He already is. Him.
Celestial Union. Yes.
My God. Jesus.
Ridiculous. Yeah.
Yes, more of a surfer than a religious fanatic.
OK, OK. I've always thought of myself as
an Abercrombie and Fitch model. So like when other people say
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you don't strike me as a rocket scientist, I say I know it's
because everyone always thinks I'm an Abercrombie and Fitch
model. Like it just is like ridiculous.
Like where are you even getting this so insane?
Oh my God. And he's like older than us.
He's like a 40 some year old man.
Like what? I just, I mean, it's not like we
actually needed an explanation of who he what, like the rest of
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this is OK. So we sound like we're like, Oh
my God, we can't believe he saidno.
We know that this is what he thinks of himself, right?
Like this is actually not shocking, but it is
uncomfortable. He's he's making us know about
it, beating us over the. Head to it like we already
fucking know. Already know these things.
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Luckily we don't have to listen to Kody this whole book.
This is the thing. Like it's not just.
Kody, you know, I'm like, I don't know if I can do.
Yeah, I'm kidding. Anymore of Kody's brain but.
If it was that, if this whole book was that just listening to
him talk about his life and why he's doing these things, I, I
absolutely could not because it was painful enough.
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And like Sir, get your act together.
And for anyone who is a little obsessed with the show and knows
the phrase demons out, because that is what Kody says when he's
having thoughts that he doesn't like, if he's frustrated, he
goes like demons out. Or if like he's thinking about
something, he doesn't want to think about his demons out.
And he says it humorous, like he's trying to be funny.
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But then when these moments happen where I'm like, no, he
definitely has demons. He needs to get out like demons
out like he's he's experiencing something.
So this book, Becoming Sister Wives, is broken into four
parts. Each one features chapters from
every wife, and the first part is matrimony.
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So that will be the first four chapters, one from each wife.
In the 1st chapter, from Meri, we learned that Meri has always
been a wallflower with a surprising number of friends.
So she blends in with the carpetand the walls and the drapes and
they all match. And yet she was very popular,
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but yet she had no friends, so it's all over the place.
She also manages to describe very little while using
potentially the most words out of all of them in just the
number, not the variation. And variation.
Well, yeah. There's no variation.
Well, you know, there was a lot of repeat.
Cute, funny, cute. Sweet.
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Cute. Yeah, it's a great read.
Kody claims that they have a remarkable love affair with no
awkwardness between them. And I'm so excited to hear about
what this awkwardness could evenbe.
But luckily, it wasn't there. But we'll see.
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And Meri feels seen by Kody. She often times feels overlooked
because once again, she's, you know, the wallflower.
Shy. Nobody knows.
Little wilting away Meri. Not a word to say.
Not a not a peep from little Mousy Meri.
Nothing to say. Where was that woman?
Where is like that really? OK, totally.
But luckily she feels seen by Kody, so this is great.
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We're happy for her. We're, we're thrilled for her,
she kind of explains. Yes, that they met at the camp
and or then she went to their house or something.
And this was the magical interaction and she just
remembered liking him so much and she just thought he was so
great and she really just liked him so much.
And I just felt like I, I liked him so much.
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And like, she just what she's saying is not like, blah, like,
blah, blah, blah, Meri. Oh, nothing.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah. She.
Did say her heart would race, which was one statement that had
a little color to it. It was at least a sentence that
wasn't blah blah blah. And see, I would hear that as my
heart would race. Yep.
Like, do you know what I mean? That's what I'm hearing right
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now. I.
Love her. I'm like, no, she didn't have
one sentence and you're like, no.
Heart would race. My heart would race.
Or, you know, like, yeah. Yeah, her right.
She's, she's definitely, I mean,she's a beige.
She's grage. She's just in the corner.
That's Meri. I'm going to try to get over
that it's. Going to be hard Kody talked
about how they could date and doas they wanted to in the sense
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that there was no other wives around, they were in a
monogamous relationship it. Was a luxury.
A very a very luxurious courtship.
A remarkable love affair. Yes, yes, like ones you see in a
movie or on TV and I'm like, I have never seen this like this
is not like. If.
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Like in the documentary about cults maybe, but not in any
movie I watch. Is it?
Like I didn't know if I loved her but I knew I loved her but I
wasn't attracted to her but I could prove it.
But I don't need to prove it. I just want my face to somehow
the expression on my face right now to somehow like radiate
through the airwaves because it is one of complete, an absolute
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horror. It is.
This is not true. This is not true.
Maybe you were cute enough, but you did not have a remarkable
love affair. You are lying about everything
and I don't believe a thing thatyou're saying.
Well, and we do have at least one still image of you doing
that face, honey, like in some of our social posts where you're
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going off into the like, this ispainful.
So people can, people can get it.
Now they both use this line about post being married, right
That there was no awkwardness. Yes, yes.
So we're talking about the bedroom, right?
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Yes, I would assume. Yeah, so we're just, we're just
doing that, but we don't talk about sex.
But no, we're we're just so, youknow, it was OK.
Yeah, like it was. Well, because of their many
sweet kisses, his many, they hadmany sweet kisses.
And that meant that there would be no awkwardness between them.
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OK, so it's like, yeah, I guess the the gist is if you don't
have sex with someone before youmarry them, then the sex could
be bad and that would suck. But like, you know, kissing also
isn't sex, but they have a very strict rule about being
abstinent. So you know they only get sweet
kisses. I just think there's a better
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way to phrase it that's maybe a little more complimentary to
your partner. Right?
Not like good news wasn't awkward.
Good news. I knew that it would be OK.
Like you can. I'd experienced a joy that I'd
never seen before. Or like, I mean, you can talk
about chemistry in a little bit of a different, I mean they're.
Not it was fine. I just, I'm like God, I just
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anyway, it's fine. He had me say in the Lord's name
in vain, you know, like, that's beautiful.
They were young and in love and carefree, so that was great for
them. Becoming soul mates.
Yes. No, I'm not sure if any of the
Sister Wives view Meri as a wallflower and a quiet person.
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I wonder if they think that she has nothing to say.
I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.
I think if we were to text Janelle right now, she'd be
like, no, that bitch has plenty to say.
I tried to help that bitch and she cannot be helped.
Well, and Speaking of Janelle, OK, so she is the next chapter
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right of the book in the matrimony section.
Yes, mountain man Janelle Brown.So we learn a few things from
Janelle. She did say that she was the one
that initiated the discussion about joining the Brown family.
They had a chaste courtship. Very chaste.
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Very chaste, she tells us. She tells us quite a bit, I
would say actually. But part of it was how she was
excommunicated from her family for, you know, joining a cult.
Well, you know, sometimes you join a cult, sometimes you
don't. She decided to.
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Kody then decides that Janelle'sdoing it all wrong.
She really needs to date date a guy like him.
He happens to be the perfect solution for Janelle's problem.
Who knew? Just wow.
If I had a nickel for every timeI met a person and I thought I
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am the perfect solution to theirproblem, I I don't know that I'd
even have one nickel. But you know, well, maybe I'd
have a nickel. I don't know.
Maybe it would be the amount of times you thought it could be
one thing, but the amount of times that it was received as
that way, yes. Yes, right.
Certainly 0 No offense so, but like what?
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Nobody. My bank statement, she knows
there's no nickels in that bank account.
But you know what I mean? Like nobody else is the solution
to somebody's problems. Like that's not how that works,
so. 101 hundred. He is that full of himself to
think that he would be. Another delulu Kody moment. 100%
like living in his own world, onhis own planet.
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But you know, Janelle obviously really needs a man because
that's what they talked about and he could just be that man.
Wonder how she feels about that now.
Kody Brown. Oh, I'm sure she's so happy with
all of her choices regarding Kody Brown.
Janelle asked Meri for a moment alone with Kody to discuss
something important, Right. And then cowboy or cowboy, Kody
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referenced a cowboy's an Indian's face.
Did you catch? That Yeah.
And like how she was dressed andhow she looked.
I don't. I don't know.
It was weird. I don't know if he knew that she
was just going to include stuff about that in her chapter, so he
thought he should say that she looked like she was wearing
cowboy attire. I don't really know what it it.
Was just an effort of a tie in, like maybe it just seemed weird
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but yeah. So Janelle asked to talk to Kody
and. He had to comment on her
appearance and it mattered none.Literally.
None. And then comment on the
furniture. Yeah, and then we were on funky
furniture that I bought somewhere.
But yeah, she when she asked forthis alone time, she tells him
that she thinks she belongs in their family.
She should join their family, yeah.
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He does say that in ways it was appropriate, given that he's a
married man. And so it does make sense that a
woman would initiate a conversation from the
perspective of if you're a married man and there's some
chemistry happening, there's some feelings, some tingles,
then you know, it's only appropriate that the woman asks
because he's a married man. Because he can't just be going
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around hitting on women that would defile his relationship
with Barry. Oh God, I'm truly losing.
It that's good that's good that had a that had a touch of Kody
in there like that was that was really something yes.
It's just another with just another reference to women being
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to women making the first move, yes.
And I, I guess I do see that because otherwise what you're
just allowing men to go out on hit or go and hit on all like
the women they want. Like, no, it does have to be a
little different. And, and in that sense, in the
way they go about adding additional people to their
relation, at least in this family, it does seem
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intentional. It doesn't seem like there's a
lot. I know we learn a little bit
more about it throughout the rest of the book, which I'll be
curious about, but. She starts out her her sumMeri
by reminding us or letting us know that they'd only been
together briefly alone before they were married.
Like going to get a chicken at the going to get a chicken at
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the ranch, something I don't even know it's.
Better than that so much. Better than that, God.
So the brief car ride and she says brief car ride in which
they got engaged. Right.
And when they went out to the cow pen to get things at the
ranch. Thank you.
When? They went to the cow pen.
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Thank you, the cow pen. I knew I wasn't giving that
justice. And they had a chaste courtship.
Yeah, with one silly kiss. One silly kiss.
Don't know what that means. I don't either.
I do know that Janelle does clarify that she did not feel
close to Kody on their honeymoon.
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Yeah, that was interesting. She said that she knows they
weren't in love then. So I, I'm curious.
I don't know if she tells us in the future when they fall in
love officially. I don't know if we get that
nugget of information. No, it would be years until they
actually fall, until their actual love story started.
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She'll she tells us a bit in thefuture.
But before telling us that, she brings us up to speed about her
family feelings about her joining a cult.
She tells us. I mean, come on, you know, she's
like, we don't think that's whateveryone.
We really don't use the word cult.
We don't use the word cult. Because I start to like,
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sometimes when you say it, I'll be like, oh, like I have this
like visceral, like, oh, let's not be.
And I'm like, no way it is. Yeah, and we are very nice to
them. We use things like their faith,
their religion. We do use these words.
But we also do need to use the word cult because it is.
And Janelle's family was concerned that she was going to
run off and join a cult because she tells them that's what?
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Guys, I'm marrying a man. His name's Kody, and he's a
polygamist. Oh, yeah.
And I'm already, you know, Meri.Oh, that's right.
Meri, who is my sister-in-law. I'm marrying her husband and
he's a polygamist and I'm joining the cult.
Yeehaw. I'm joining the cult, but I love
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about Janelle's chapter is that she does give us right off the
bat a lot of stuff. There was a lot of stuff in her
chapter. There was a lot of things.
We learned a lot about Janelle and she's entertaining as always
in her quirky way. And you know, the difference
that we do talk about it, of course, in the full recording,
but like, it truly sounds like Janelle, like Meri.
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It sounds like Meri, but ultimately like 10 times as
boring of Meri. Janelle sounds like it's
Janelle. Like it's, you know, and, and we
think she's a decent writer. Yes, yes, with that penmanship.
Oh yes. The third wife in the Brown
family gives us our third glorious chapter.
This comes from Christine. So Christine joins Kody and Meri
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on a road trip. And the good news is on this
road trip they didn't go weird. So that's beautiful.
Kody tells us that Christine wasbubbly and cute, but chubby,
chubby, chubby, chubby, chubby. There was a lot of chubby.
And Christine develops A cravingfor some nachos.
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Then, at some point, Christine heads to the ranch in Wyoming.
Yes, there was. Yeah, like a group of them going
up or something. It was about a year after they
had met. OK And Kody was hosting a youth
trip. Oh yes.
To the ranch in Wyoming. Yes.
Oh yeah. Yes, and.
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So that they can see how his parents live, Yes, and that his
parents can meet new young people in the faith.
Yes. Because that's what most elderly
people want, is to meet teens. Well, maybe his dad.
Well, anyway. Yeah.
Allegedly. Allegedly in true brown fashion.
Well, yeah, there was 19 of themthat went Christine.
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Oh, she was, she was going to ride with Kody in the car no
matter what, no matter what, no matter what.
And so she made that happen. And in true Brown family
fashion, Chris, what happens? Oh well, well, they're
caravanning through the mountains.
A snowstorm. Calm, shocking, shocking
snowstorm shocker. But luckily she was in the back
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seat of Kody's car with Meri because she had someone else
drive her car. She's so cunning.
Don't worry, they don't get weird, but boy, if they did, Can
you imagine? Oh my gosh.
But then we're having some overlap, and they don't overlap,
remember? Oh, they would have had to
perform the marriage right therein the car.
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Well, this they would have had to get married in a snowstorm in
a ditch. I bet somebody was with them
that could perform this. Yes, yes.
Wow, now that would have been a more interesting honeymoon than
the ones you got. Well, fuck, right?
Anyhoo, half a day trip turned into an overnight adventure.
Oh yeah. Yeah, if only the TLC camera
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crew had been there when we would have been able to watch it
like we watch all of their othertravel adventures.
Oh, I have a. Feeling recording them at this
point in their lives would have been a bit more troublesome than
the current. Show Oh no, they were living
chased lives. We'll get there, won't we?
So now we're back over to Kody, giving us his precious pearls.
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He lets us know they drove all night, through the mountains,
all night. It was dangerous.
He kept looking at Christine in his rearview mirror once again.
She's so bubbly. He just thinks she's bubbly,
bubbly, bubbly. She's so bubbly.
And the cutest? Cutest girl in the world, but a
bit chubby. She's willing to participate in
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anything, but she's a bit chubby.
Chubby. Yeah, Hey, you know, I'm a bit
chubby, so I don't really know what to say about all of that.
You. Know what I have to say about
that? What do you have to say about
that? If you have interest in somebody
that what standards may call chubby, OK, you will not refer
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to them ever as chubby, right? Because in your eyes they are
not chubby. Right.
Yeah. And so fuck you, Kody Brown, I
think is what I have to say about that.
Yes, yes, yeah. Like what the fuck dude?
Well, just like they're confessionals on the show, it's
like this has already happened. Like he has the luxury of
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painting a different picture. Not a picture, a picture then he
is right now. Like he definitely could still
tell the story without calling her chubby and literally using
negative words to describe her. Like that's crazy.
And like there could have been, I mean, I don't know, maybe
there was a tactful way to do itin acknowledging somehow that
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maybe. She was built like a brick
house. Well, no, but like, you know,
normally I do go for more petitewomen and Christine maybe isn't
as petite as the no, she still sounds bad.
You just don't talk about peoplebeing chubby.
You just don't do it. Like, not if you have an
interest in them in this manner.Like, no, you fucking idiot.
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Oh, good news. That's not the only time he says
chubby, though. Oh good, he talks about Chubby
some more. He does.
Oh good, that's wonderful. And it is funny because when he
talks to Roby later in the show,you know he likes curvy women is
what he told her. Which of course is just a lie
because all of his wives were not toothpicks and so he was
like, I like curvy women. It also sets her up as the one
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that he doesn't desire traditionally.
Curvy is the right way to say chubby without it having a
negative connotation, right? Like.
His wife, one of his wives, probably coached him into that
one. Fuck had to you know you Please
stop telling the world you thought it was chubby.
Can we start? Can we use a different word?
Curvy? Let's.
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Do that. Yeah.
Voluptuous. Fine, fine.
I feel like a big bottom. Christina's the kind of big
bottom girl that makes the rock and world go round.
In this world, Rockin Girl lovesherself some chips and cheese,
some chili chips and cheese, some chili chips and cheese they
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call nachos. Now here's something we learn.
Yeah, apparently. No, Christine should not consume
said nachos. No.
In front of Kody Brown? No, after he's drank too much
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soda pop. Soda.
Yeah. Yeah, Well, that soda made him
feel queasy. Honey, she's a brick from front.
Darn. And house.
Now I have to tell you guys. And this is a safe space.
Well, while that clip was playing, Ally called me chubby.
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I didn't do such a thing at all.Oh my goodness.
My heart's broken into a millionpieces.
How could you do this to me? It's Kody's rubbing off on me.
I'm sorry. Yeah, you.
Heard it here first. You heard it here first.
Shit, that's. Amazing.
That's great. Following that lovely ride down
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memory lane in the nachos, Whichepic as usual, we get to Roby's
chapter. Oh, Roby.
Roby. Our favorite.
Our favorite. Yeah, she really does enlighten
us with her storytelling. We learn a few things.
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Very creative writing. Very creative.
I'm not. I don't know any.
Not earning a good grade. No, I'm like, it's kind of
creative writing. That sounds like a compliment.
We have maybe some mental healththings we should look into.
I I don't know. We do get introduced to a new
Sister Wives character. Yeah.
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One that we had no idea existed back there.
No, that was really special. And then Roby, it's, it's, it's
so bad, you guys, that she's telling these things that we
questioned whether we were hallucinating or not.
We do that every so often. Sometimes we're just not sure
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this had us feeling that way. Roby also, you know, she's
pretty sure she's not in the mood for a relationship.
She's taking time to grow and learn, but she does know she
wants to join a family as a a plural wife.
So she doesn't want a relationship, but she does want
to get into a family. So we have some.
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It's like a tennis match back and forth a little bit with what
her true plans are. Now one thing that's great about
this book is that we get introduced to an entire another
Sister Wives character did. You say great.
Yeah, yeah, it's great. If you're a psychopath like me,
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you're like, weird. That is true.
It is fucking weird. But you can watch the entire
show and never even know about this fabulous character that we
should have been introduced to from day one.
Can you imagine if we had known about this from day one?
There's a reason. Yeah.
I wouldn't have watched the show.
Yeah, I think I wouldn't have. Yeah, to be honest with you.
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She's like, let me bring up the bullet points I made-up for the
book and they're like, stop talking.
There's a reason TLC didn't do exactly what we're doing right
now, yeah. Absolutely.
They're like, no, no, no, no, it's not going to work.
We will not. So tell me what you were so
impressed about, Chris. Well, I was just character.
I was so excited to meet this persona.
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Oh. Slash superhero that Roby has
created for herself. Alter ego.
Alter ego called Shira. Shira.
Shira. Shut the fuck up, Shira.
Shira I mean it is literally in the book SHE space RAH like.
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Not even a dash? Oh God, I.
Hope there's a dash. I don't know if there's.
A dash. There better be a fucking dash.
Who is the woman that was like afemale warrior Princess?
I don't. Xena.
Xena warrior Princess. This sounds like I was.
Thinking like Wonder Woman or something?
Yeah. Well, like, which is what I
think Roby thinks she is, yeah. I mean, yeah, like a character
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made-up from a book. OK, She rob.
There is a dash in the. Word, Jesus, there's a dash.
There is a dash. I'm glad you checked because I
would really. I wouldn't have gone back, but I
did need to know that it was there.
So we'll give her that. There was a dash in the name
Shira. Now, is the RAH all capitalized?
Oh, it's lowercase. All S is capitalized and R is
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capitalized. Sheet.
Rah. No, no, doesn't work.
Doesn't. Work now, it's really alarming
because the first time you're reading this book and all of a
sudden there's this reference ofShira and it is straight up
like, am I smelling smoke? Am I having a stroke?
Like what is? That you thought you were
hallucinating. Yes, well, this time I wasn't on
anything that would make me hallucinate.
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You know, sometimes you're like.Just to clarify though, I
shouldn't have been. Yes, there was something
questionable growing in Ally's backyard and I pointed it out to
her and I was like, maybe I'm hallucinating.
So this would be the second timethis month, but then
potentially. Hallucinating.
Both see it in person. Yes folks, he was not.
I was not hallucinating and we were able to validate it.
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Just like that check I am not hallucinating about she rap, she
is real. She is Roby's shield and
fortress so that she will never be heard again.
Yes. Exactly.
It would go against her nature to not be vulnerable.
So this is The thing is that shegets to point out all these good
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things about her. You know, she's vulnerable,
she's caring, she's loving. Shira would not allow her to do
that again. No, she would not have her heart
broken. Nope, she would not be that
woman. So she is going to Chris, just
in case you're wondering, she's going to take a break from
relationships. Roby is Shira is saying no, you
will not, you will not, you willnot open yourself up to this.
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This is not going to happen for you, and so you're going to take
a break. Of course, Roby doesn't need the
complications of a relationship.She just got out of a decade
long when she has three kids that apparently she thinks she
should maybe prioritize. I love that because there's like
an asterisk, like a follow after, like, oh, and then I have
kids to take care of. Like my God, woman, isn't that
the priority in your life? And we will see throughout the
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years. Actually kind of not.
No, she doesn't work, but she needs nannies.
She doesn't have a brain, but she needs Shira.
She needs a lot of help. She needs a lot of help from a
lot of different people. She still was sure that she
wanted to join somebody as a plural wife, though.
She's not. She's not going into
relationships. We're not doing that.
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We're not. We're not looking.
We're not dating. We're not worried about that.
We're not. But just in case you're
wondering, I do still want to enter into something as a plural
wife. Also, I don't care about looks.
Not. It's not important to me.
You can be fat or skinny, you can be blind or deaf, or you
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can. You can have skin or no skin.
Your organs can be on the outside or the inside.
I mean. Yeah, she doesn't care whether
you're alive or dead as long as you have money for her and her.
Children and you have to be caring, unselfish and strong.
Yes, those are the only other things.
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Simple. As long as you can check those
boxes, you're good. Well, the next time she gets
married, which she is not looking to do, then that man
needs to be a good man and a good father figure.
Yeah, you know, that totally makes sense.
That's what I always think when I'm thinking about how I'm not
going to be with someone. And so she took some time not
dating, and then she took some time to repair those wounds.
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Yeah, some of those wounds rightthere.
And she just, she put some band aids, Oh God, band aids on her
wounds. Allie, what color are those band
aids you're putting on your on your body?
Well, it depends. Maybe.
OK, what year could this possibly have been?
Maybe they're Shrek band aids. Maybe it's a Shrek Band-Aid.
Yeah. Or it could just be a good old
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tan tan Band-Aid. Band-Aid.
See, I think given the shape of Roby's head, she'd go for
SpongeBob SquarePants. What square band?
Yeah. And there was probably SpongeBob
ones then, too with. Yeah.
So, yeah, I agree. Yeah.
But she, she's she's still repairing herself.
We're not doing anything, Chris.We're not doing anything.
No, nothing to do. No other than try to raise her
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own children. Oh.
When she decides to. So after her divorce is
finalized and she's remembered that she has children, she
visits her cousin Reba and Lehigh Reba.
So guess what? We're going to have to have some
Reba McIntyre on this. Here's your one chance, Roby.
Don't let me down. Oh my.
God, we're gonna have to do a playlist.
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Oh yes, on Spotify. Episode.
Well, we're gonna make one. We're gonna make one Sister
Wives soundtrack. This is the only one that's
that's LED us to this and I'm feeling really good.
OK, yeah, well, I was thinking about, you know, I have to bring
in Jesus Loves Me for a sunbeam from our episodes that I like
that song, You know, there has there's more opportunities.
All right, all right. Well, stay tuned, ladies and
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gents. Stay tuned.
You're like, Kristen is winning ideas.
So yeah, like, cool. I hate that song but OK.
If you can find a version on Spotify, can't wait.
Oh my goodness, Roby Brown. Complete disgust.
Well, lucky for you Ali, I did find a version of Jesus Wants Me
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for a Sunbeam on Spotify, and you can find the URL for the
Spotify playlist in the episode description below.
Oh my God, for real. Like this is a surprise to me
too, you guys, I. Just made I made a Sister Wives
soundtrack playlist and I'll be and we'll be sharing the URL for
that so you can all enjoy the soundtrack to our lives.
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I guess I know what I'm doing tonight.
Some of them are real headbangers.
Oh. My God, Can you imagine?
I have to have several cocktailsto get through that.
Up next in the book Becoming Sister Wives will be the section
titled Sorority Sorority where we'll get to go through each
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wives perspective of whatever that means and I cannot wait.
They all go to college and try to join a sorority.
I don't think that's what that means.
It's. Not that's amazing, but we hope
you all have enjoyed the clips from Sisterhood of the Traveling
Husband, which I have to say is a great title.
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Let's give ourselves some props here.
That was a good. Title.
That's very good. I'll give you props.
Well, it came to me in a vision.What is it that they always
have? Hallucinating.
No, no. I was having a spiritual vision
like they always have. A testimony.
I had a testimony and it told me.
Sisterhood. Yeah.
The traveling husband. Yeah, the amount of times he's
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running and told me about his testimony, I tell you sometimes
it's I was just. Waving my testimony in your
face. Now that would be a strange turn
of offense. It was just just another
recording evening here, so everything's fine, everything's
no worries. Don't send any mental health
professionals over here. Keep them.
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Keep them over at. Roby's house.
And just another reminder for our listeners that Sisterhood of
the Travelling Husband is available on our Patreon.
You can find a link in the episode description.
It's a playground, like we get to do whatever we want, so This
Is Us. A little scary.
This Is Us putting things out ona public feed, so on a private
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feed we will obviously be so much more well behaved and we'll
mind our P's and Q's. We'll think before we speak of
it. Can you imagine?
We'd never get anything done if we thought before we spoke.
Well, we'll take a cue from Robyand we'll really start
storytelling on our Patreon. It's going to be a beautiful
thing. And we thank you for joining us
on this journey. Into the crevices and the dark,
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musty corners of becoming sisterwives.
We truly thank you for joining us on this journey.
Truly, truly, truly, truly. It's quite a ride.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie, Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. Tonight on my Sister Wives
podcast special. That sounded good.
OK. That well, maybe didn't sound
(00:53):
good, but it worked for me. I.
Give it one more go. Tonight on my Sister Wives
podcast special, that one was probably.
Better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go with that. Splitting hairs at this point.
Yes. Welcome everybody.
This is a special episode of my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. And I'm Allie.
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As you all know, and if you don't know, greetings,
greetings. Salutations, Salutations.
Exactly. And boy, do we have an extra
special treat for you today. So we're doing this project
where I'm reading the number oneNew York Times bestselling book
Becoming Sister Wives, which is ghost written in partnership
with Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Roby Brown.
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Many of you are probably aware of it.
Many of you probably haven't read it because while it is a #1
New York Times bestseller, I'm not so sure that it's the most
popular book. I hadn't heard of it.
We're lovingly calling this bookclub Sisterhood of the Traveling
Husband for obvious reasons. And we're going to play you some
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previews. As always, you will hear the
shallow dives and life changing,truly, truly life changing,
truly life changing rants you'veprobably come to hear from us.
This new book club broadcast will be available exclusively on
our Patreon. You can find the link in the
description of this episode or at my Sister Wives podcast.com.
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But for now, Allie, where are westarting with playing these
clips? Well, at my least favorite part,
Chris, yes. It's true.
With the prologue written exclusively by Kody Brown.
Ohh, our patriarch. Which which really just means
that we get to hear a lot from Kody Brown.
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We do. And it was a lot and I'd rather
not relive it again, but I'm sorry you're having to hear it.
But here we go. Just a couple of highlights from
our time with Kody in this prologue.
He cannot believe that he is getting makeup done for TV
because he is such a quote UN quote country boy.
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Oh yeah. But then in almost the same
breath, he references his obsession with how he believes
he could be confused for a surfer.
Oh, yes, yeah. Which, Yep, totally fell for
that. And it's just more and more
ridiculous shit like that that we would expect from him and a
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lot of it. It is weird that the book starts
with our fearless leader Kody and we don't get to hear from
anyone else for a hot 2nd, but we survived it and so will you.
The story of an unconventional marriage.
Kody Meri, Janelle, Christine and Roby Brown, Sisterhood of
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the Travelling Husband Well, we get plenty of Kody's ego in this
prologue because he's talking about getting his makeup done.
Now. He grew up in Wyoming and he
couldn't ever imagine having hismakeup done, let alone by other
people because he grew up and out on the farm or out on the
ranch in Wyoming. And it's like, oh, you were such
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a bullshitter. Like, he was never like a
country boy. Like give me a break.
I guess the things that he thinks are funny in that sense
are interesting. But then the stylist asks him
what his show is about and he says well I'm a polygamist and
have 4 wives. And then make some reference as
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to how. Well, nobody would believe that
I was a religious fanatic. They would think I was more of a
surfer. A.
Surfer did a surfer. Than a religious fanatic like
again this the the beliefs he has about himself.
I just wow, like to be in that guy's head, man.
Yeah, If I had any of that confidence in myself on a.
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Daily basis. Do you know what I mean?
I also love the reference to thesurfer, 'cause I'm like, that
surfer made a big impact on him.Oh my God, on his honeymoon with
Roby. Like he has a man crush on him
or a real crush, whatever he wants to be, he wants to skin
him and wear him well. Like it's crazy.
He's obsessed with him. Well, as far as he's concerned,
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he is him. That's right.
He already is. Him.
Celestial Union. Yes.
My God. Jesus.
Ridiculous. Yeah.
Yes, more of a surfer than a religious fanatic.
OK, OK. I've always thought of myself as
an Abercrombie and Fitch model. So like when other people say
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you don't strike me as a rocket scientist, I say I know it's
because everyone always thinks I'm an Abercrombie and Fitch
model. Like it just is like ridiculous.
Like where are you even getting this so insane?
Oh my God. And he's like older than us.
He's like a 40 some year old man.
Like what? I just, I mean, it's not like we
actually needed an explanation of who he what, like the rest of
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this is OK. So we sound like we're like, Oh
my God, we can't believe he saidno.
We know that this is what he thinks of himself, right?
Like this is actually not shocking, but it is
uncomfortable. He's he's making us know about
it, beating us over the. Head to it like we already
fucking know. Already know these things.
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Luckily we don't have to listen to Kody this whole book.
This is the thing. Like it's not just.
Kody, you know, I'm like, I don't know if I can do.
Yeah, I'm kidding. Anymore of Kody's brain but.
If it was that, if this whole book was that just listening to
him talk about his life and why he's doing these things, I, I
absolutely could not because it was painful enough.
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And like Sir, get your act together.
And for anyone who is a little obsessed with the show and knows
the phrase demons out, because that is what Kody says when he's
having thoughts that he doesn't like, if he's frustrated, he
goes like demons out. Or if like he's thinking about
something, he doesn't want to think about his demons out.
And he says it humorous, like he's trying to be funny.
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But then when these moments happen where I'm like, no, he
definitely has demons. He needs to get out like demons
out like he's he's experiencing something.
So this book, Becoming Sister Wives, is broken into four
parts. Each one features chapters from
every wife, and the first part is matrimony.
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So that will be the first four chapters, one from each wife.
In the 1st chapter, from Meri, we learned that Meri has always
been a wallflower with a surprising number of friends.
So she blends in with the carpetand the walls and the drapes and
they all match. And yet she was very popular,
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but yet she had no friends, so it's all over the place.
She also manages to describe very little while using
potentially the most words out of all of them in just the
number, not the variation. And variation.
Well, yeah. There's no variation.
Well, you know, there was a lot of repeat.
Cute, funny, cute. Sweet.
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Cute. Yeah, it's a great read.
Kody claims that they have a remarkable love affair with no
awkwardness between them. And I'm so excited to hear about
what this awkwardness could evenbe.
But luckily, it wasn't there. But we'll see.
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And Meri feels seen by Kody. She often times feels overlooked
because once again, she's, you know, the wallflower.
Shy. Nobody knows.
Little wilting away Meri. Not a word to say.
Not a not a peep from little Mousy Meri.
Nothing to say. Where was that woman?
Where is like that really? OK, totally.
But luckily she feels seen by Kody, so this is great.
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We're happy for her. We're, we're thrilled for her,
she kind of explains. Yes, that they met at the camp
and or then she went to their house or something.
And this was the magical interaction and she just
remembered liking him so much and she just thought he was so
great and she really just liked him so much.
And I just felt like I, I liked him so much.
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And like, she just what she's saying is not like, blah, like,
blah, blah, blah, Meri. Oh, nothing.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah. She.
Did say her heart would race, which was one statement that had
a little color to it. It was at least a sentence that
wasn't blah blah blah. And see, I would hear that as my
heart would race. Yep.
Like, do you know what I mean? That's what I'm hearing right
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now. I.
Love her. I'm like, no, she didn't have
one sentence and you're like, no.
Heart would race. My heart would race.
Or, you know, like, yeah. Yeah, her right.
She's, she's definitely, I mean,she's a beige.
She's grage. She's just in the corner.
That's Meri. I'm going to try to get over
that it's. Going to be hard Kody talked
about how they could date and doas they wanted to in the sense
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that there was no other wives around, they were in a
monogamous relationship it. Was a luxury.
A very a very luxurious courtship.
A remarkable love affair. Yes, yes, like ones you see in a
movie or on TV and I'm like, I have never seen this like this
is not like. If.
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Like in the documentary about cults maybe, but not in any
movie I watch. Is it?
Like I didn't know if I loved her but I knew I loved her but I
wasn't attracted to her but I could prove it.
But I don't need to prove it. I just want my face to somehow
the expression on my face right now to somehow like radiate
through the airwaves because it is one of complete, an absolute
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horror. It is.
This is not true. This is not true.
Maybe you were cute enough, but you did not have a remarkable
love affair. You are lying about everything
and I don't believe a thing thatyou're saying.
Well, and we do have at least one still image of you doing
that face, honey, like in some of our social posts where you're
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going off into the like, this ispainful.
So people can, people can get it.
Now they both use this line about post being married, right
That there was no awkwardness. Yes, yes.
So we're talking about the bedroom, right?
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Yes, I would assume. Yeah, so we're just, we're just
doing that, but we don't talk about sex.
But no, we're we're just so, youknow, it was OK.
Yeah, like it was. Well, because of their many
sweet kisses, his many, they hadmany sweet kisses.
And that meant that there would be no awkwardness between them.
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OK, so it's like, yeah, I guess the the gist is if you don't
have sex with someone before youmarry them, then the sex could
be bad and that would suck. But like, you know, kissing also
isn't sex, but they have a very strict rule about being
abstinent. So you know they only get sweet
kisses. I just think there's a better
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way to phrase it that's maybe a little more complimentary to
your partner. Right?
Not like good news wasn't awkward.
Good news. I knew that it would be OK.
Like you can. I'd experienced a joy that I'd
never seen before. Or like, I mean, you can talk
about chemistry in a little bit of a different, I mean they're.
Not it was fine. I just, I'm like God, I just
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anyway, it's fine. He had me say in the Lord's name
in vain, you know, like, that's beautiful.
They were young and in love and carefree, so that was great for
them. Becoming soul mates.
Yes. No, I'm not sure if any of the
Sister Wives view Meri as a wallflower and a quiet person.
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I wonder if they think that she has nothing to say.
I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.
I think if we were to text Janelle right now, she'd be
like, no, that bitch has plenty to say.
I tried to help that bitch and she cannot be helped.
Well, and Speaking of Janelle, OK, so she is the next chapter
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right of the book in the matrimony section.
Yes, mountain man Janelle Brown.So we learn a few things from
Janelle. She did say that she was the one
that initiated the discussion about joining the Brown family.
They had a chaste courtship. Very chaste.
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Very chaste, she tells us. She tells us quite a bit, I
would say actually. But part of it was how she was
excommunicated from her family for, you know, joining a cult.
Well, you know, sometimes you join a cult, sometimes you
don't. She decided to.
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Kody then decides that Janelle'sdoing it all wrong.
She really needs to date date a guy like him.
He happens to be the perfect solution for Janelle's problem.
Who knew? Just wow.
If I had a nickel for every timeI met a person and I thought I
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am the perfect solution to theirproblem, I I don't know that I'd
even have one nickel. But you know, well, maybe I'd
have a nickel. I don't know.
Maybe it would be the amount of times you thought it could be
one thing, but the amount of times that it was received as
that way, yes. Yes, right.
Certainly 0 No offense so, but like what?
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Nobody. My bank statement, she knows
there's no nickels in that bank account.
But you know what I mean? Like nobody else is the solution
to somebody's problems. Like that's not how that works,
so. 101 hundred. He is that full of himself to
think that he would be. Another delulu Kody moment. 100%
like living in his own world, onhis own planet.
(15:09):
But you know, Janelle obviously really needs a man because
that's what they talked about and he could just be that man.
Wonder how she feels about that now.
Kody Brown. Oh, I'm sure she's so happy with
all of her choices regarding Kody Brown.
Janelle asked Meri for a moment alone with Kody to discuss
something important, Right. And then cowboy or cowboy, Kody
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referenced a cowboy's an Indian's face.
Did you catch? That Yeah.
And like how she was dressed andhow she looked.
I don't. I don't know.
It was weird. I don't know if he knew that she
was just going to include stuff about that in her chapter, so he
thought he should say that she looked like she was wearing
cowboy attire. I don't really know what it it.
Was just an effort of a tie in, like maybe it just seemed weird
(15:56):
but yeah. So Janelle asked to talk to Kody
and. He had to comment on her
appearance and it mattered none.Literally.
None. And then comment on the
furniture. Yeah, and then we were on funky
furniture that I bought somewhere.
But yeah, she when she asked forthis alone time, she tells him
that she thinks she belongs in their family.
She should join their family, yeah.
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He does say that in ways it was appropriate, given that he's a
married man. And so it does make sense that a
woman would initiate a conversation from the
perspective of if you're a married man and there's some
chemistry happening, there's some feelings, some tingles,
then you know, it's only appropriate that the woman asks
because he's a married man. Because he can't just be going
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around hitting on women that would defile his relationship
with Barry. Oh God, I'm truly losing.
It that's good that's good that had a that had a touch of Kody
in there like that was that was really something yes.
It's just another with just another reference to women being
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to women making the first move, yes.
And I, I guess I do see that because otherwise what you're
just allowing men to go out on hit or go and hit on all like
the women they want. Like, no, it does have to be a
little different. And, and in that sense, in the
way they go about adding additional people to their
relation, at least in this family, it does seem
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intentional. It doesn't seem like there's a
lot. I know we learn a little bit
more about it throughout the rest of the book, which I'll be
curious about, but. She starts out her her sumMeri
by reminding us or letting us know that they'd only been
together briefly alone before they were married.
Like going to get a chicken at the going to get a chicken at
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the ranch, something I don't even know it's.
Better than that so much. Better than that, God.
So the brief car ride and she says brief car ride in which
they got engaged. Right.
And when they went out to the cow pen to get things at the
ranch. Thank you.
When? They went to the cow pen.
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Thank you, the cow pen. I knew I wasn't giving that
justice. And they had a chaste courtship.
Yeah, with one silly kiss. One silly kiss.
Don't know what that means. I don't either.
I do know that Janelle does clarify that she did not feel
close to Kody on their honeymoon.
(18:23):
Yeah, that was interesting. She said that she knows they
weren't in love then. So I, I'm curious.
I don't know if she tells us in the future when they fall in
love officially. I don't know if we get that
nugget of information. No, it would be years until they
actually fall, until their actual love story started.
(18:44):
She'll she tells us a bit in thefuture.
But before telling us that, she brings us up to speed about her
family feelings about her joining a cult.
She tells us. I mean, come on, you know, she's
like, we don't think that's whateveryone.
We really don't use the word cult.
We don't use the word cult. Because I start to like,
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sometimes when you say it, I'll be like, oh, like I have this
like visceral, like, oh, let's not be.
And I'm like, no way it is. Yeah, and we are very nice to
them. We use things like their faith,
their religion. We do use these words.
But we also do need to use the word cult because it is.
And Janelle's family was concerned that she was going to
run off and join a cult because she tells them that's what?
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Guys, I'm marrying a man. His name's Kody, and he's a
polygamist. Oh, yeah.
And I'm already, you know, Meri.Oh, that's right.
Meri, who is my sister-in-law. I'm marrying her husband and
he's a polygamist and I'm joining the cult.
Yeehaw. I'm joining the cult, but I love
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about Janelle's chapter is that she does give us right off the
bat a lot of stuff. There was a lot of stuff in her
chapter. There was a lot of things.
We learned a lot about Janelle and she's entertaining as always
in her quirky way. And you know, the difference
that we do talk about it, of course, in the full recording,
but like, it truly sounds like Janelle, like Meri.
(20:14):
It sounds like Meri, but ultimately like 10 times as
boring of Meri. Janelle sounds like it's
Janelle. Like it's, you know, and, and we
think she's a decent writer. Yes, yes, with that penmanship.
Oh yes. The third wife in the Brown
family gives us our third glorious chapter.
This comes from Christine. So Christine joins Kody and Meri
(20:36):
on a road trip. And the good news is on this
road trip they didn't go weird. So that's beautiful.
Kody tells us that Christine wasbubbly and cute, but chubby,
chubby, chubby, chubby, chubby. There was a lot of chubby.
And Christine develops A cravingfor some nachos.
(21:01):
Then, at some point, Christine heads to the ranch in Wyoming.
Yes, there was. Yeah, like a group of them going
up or something. It was about a year after they
had met. OK And Kody was hosting a youth
trip. Oh yes.
To the ranch in Wyoming. Yes.
Oh yeah. Yes, and.
(21:24):
So that they can see how his parents live, Yes, and that his
parents can meet new young people in the faith.
Yes. Because that's what most elderly
people want, is to meet teens. Well, maybe his dad.
Well, anyway. Yeah.
Allegedly. Allegedly in true brown fashion.
Well, yeah, there was 19 of themthat went Christine.
(21:48):
Oh, she was, she was going to ride with Kody in the car no
matter what, no matter what, no matter what.
And so she made that happen. And in true Brown family
fashion, Chris, what happens? Oh well, well, they're
caravanning through the mountains.
A snowstorm. Calm, shocking, shocking
snowstorm shocker. But luckily she was in the back
(22:08):
seat of Kody's car with Meri because she had someone else
drive her car. She's so cunning.
Don't worry, they don't get weird, but boy, if they did, Can
you imagine? Oh my gosh.
But then we're having some overlap, and they don't overlap,
remember? Oh, they would have had to
perform the marriage right therein the car.
(22:29):
Well, this they would have had to get married in a snowstorm in
a ditch. I bet somebody was with them
that could perform this. Yes, yes.
Wow, now that would have been a more interesting honeymoon than
the ones you got. Well, fuck, right?
Anyhoo, half a day trip turned into an overnight adventure.
Oh yeah. Yeah, if only the TLC camera
(22:52):
crew had been there when we would have been able to watch it
like we watch all of their othertravel adventures.
Oh, I have a. Feeling recording them at this
point in their lives would have been a bit more troublesome than
the current. Show Oh no, they were living
chased lives. We'll get there, won't we?
So now we're back over to Kody, giving us his precious pearls.
(23:16):
He lets us know they drove all night, through the mountains,
all night. It was dangerous.
He kept looking at Christine in his rearview mirror once again.
She's so bubbly. He just thinks she's bubbly,
bubbly, bubbly. She's so bubbly.
And the cutest? Cutest girl in the world, but a
bit chubby. She's willing to participate in
(23:37):
anything, but she's a bit chubby.
Chubby. Yeah, Hey, you know, I'm a bit
chubby, so I don't really know what to say about all of that.
You. Know what I have to say about
that? What do you have to say about
that? If you have interest in somebody
that what standards may call chubby, OK, you will not refer
(24:00):
to them ever as chubby, right? Because in your eyes they are
not chubby. Right.
Yeah. And so fuck you, Kody Brown, I
think is what I have to say about that.
Yes, yes, yeah. Like what the fuck dude?
Well, just like they're confessionals on the show, it's
like this has already happened. Like he has the luxury of
(24:21):
painting a different picture. Not a picture, a picture then he
is right now. Like he definitely could still
tell the story without calling her chubby and literally using
negative words to describe her. Like that's crazy.
And like there could have been, I mean, I don't know, maybe
there was a tactful way to do itin acknowledging somehow that
(24:44):
maybe. She was built like a brick
house. Well, no, but like, you know,
normally I do go for more petitewomen and Christine maybe isn't
as petite as the no, she still sounds bad.
You just don't talk about peoplebeing chubby.
You just don't do it. Like, not if you have an
interest in them in this manner.Like, no, you fucking idiot.
(25:04):
Oh, good news. That's not the only time he says
chubby, though. Oh good, he talks about Chubby
some more. He does.
Oh good, that's wonderful. And it is funny because when he
talks to Roby later in the show,you know he likes curvy women is
what he told her. Which of course is just a lie
because all of his wives were not toothpicks and so he was
like, I like curvy women. It also sets her up as the one
(25:25):
that he doesn't desire traditionally.
Curvy is the right way to say chubby without it having a
negative connotation, right? Like.
His wife, one of his wives, probably coached him into that
one. Fuck had to you know you Please
stop telling the world you thought it was chubby.
Can we start? Can we use a different word?
Curvy? Let's.
(25:45):
Do that. Yeah.
Voluptuous. Fine, fine.
I feel like a big bottom. Christina's the kind of big
bottom girl that makes the rock and world go round.
In this world, Rockin Girl lovesherself some chips and cheese,
some chili chips and cheese, some chili chips and cheese they
(26:06):
call nachos. Now here's something we learn.
Yeah, apparently. No, Christine should not consume
said nachos. No.
In front of Kody Brown? No, after he's drank too much
(26:28):
soda pop. Soda.
Yeah. Yeah, Well, that soda made him
feel queasy. Honey, she's a brick from front.
Darn. And house.
Now I have to tell you guys. And this is a safe space.
Well, while that clip was playing, Ally called me chubby.
(26:52):
I didn't do such a thing at all.Oh my goodness.
My heart's broken into a millionpieces.
How could you do this to me? It's Kody's rubbing off on me.
I'm sorry. Yeah, you.
Heard it here first. You heard it here first.
Shit, that's. Amazing.
That's great. Following that lovely ride down
(27:15):
memory lane in the nachos, Whichepic as usual, we get to Roby's
chapter. Oh, Roby.
Roby. Our favorite.
Our favorite. Yeah, she really does enlighten
us with her storytelling. We learn a few things.
(27:37):
Very creative writing. Very creative.
I'm not. I don't know any.
Not earning a good grade. No, I'm like, it's kind of
creative writing. That sounds like a compliment.
We have maybe some mental healththings we should look into.
I I don't know. We do get introduced to a new
Sister Wives character. Yeah.
(27:58):
One that we had no idea existed back there.
No, that was really special. And then Roby, it's, it's, it's
so bad, you guys, that she's telling these things that we
questioned whether we were hallucinating or not.
We do that every so often. Sometimes we're just not sure
(28:23):
this had us feeling that way. Roby also, you know, she's
pretty sure she's not in the mood for a relationship.
She's taking time to grow and learn, but she does know she
wants to join a family as a a plural wife.
So she doesn't want a relationship, but she does want
to get into a family. So we have some.
(28:43):
It's like a tennis match back and forth a little bit with what
her true plans are. Now one thing that's great about
this book is that we get introduced to an entire another
Sister Wives character did. You say great.
Yeah, yeah, it's great. If you're a psychopath like me,
(29:03):
you're like, weird. That is true.
It is fucking weird. But you can watch the entire
show and never even know about this fabulous character that we
should have been introduced to from day one.
Can you imagine if we had known about this from day one?
There's a reason. Yeah.
I wouldn't have watched the show.
Yeah, I think I wouldn't have. Yeah, to be honest with you.
(29:24):
She's like, let me bring up the bullet points I made-up for the
book and they're like, stop talking.
There's a reason TLC didn't do exactly what we're doing right
now, yeah. Absolutely.
They're like, no, no, no, no, it's not going to work.
We will not. So tell me what you were so
impressed about, Chris. Well, I was just character.
I was so excited to meet this persona.
(29:47):
Oh. Slash superhero that Roby has
created for herself. Alter ego.
Alter ego called Shira. Shira.
Shira. Shut the fuck up, Shira.
Shira I mean it is literally in the book SHE space RAH like.
(30:09):
Not even a dash? Oh God, I.
Hope there's a dash. I don't know if there's.
A dash. There better be a fucking dash.
Who is the woman that was like afemale warrior Princess?
I don't. Xena.
Xena warrior Princess. This sounds like I was.
Thinking like Wonder Woman or something?
Yeah. Well, like, which is what I
think Roby thinks she is, yeah. I mean, yeah, like a character
(30:32):
made-up from a book. OK, She rob.
There is a dash in the. Word, Jesus, there's a dash.
There is a dash. I'm glad you checked because I
would really. I wouldn't have gone back, but I
did need to know that it was there.
So we'll give her that. There was a dash in the name
Shira. Now, is the RAH all capitalized?
Oh, it's lowercase. All S is capitalized and R is
(30:53):
capitalized. Sheet.
Rah. No, no, doesn't work.
Doesn't. Work now, it's really alarming
because the first time you're reading this book and all of a
sudden there's this reference ofShira and it is straight up
like, am I smelling smoke? Am I having a stroke?
Like what is? That you thought you were
hallucinating. Yes, well, this time I wasn't on
anything that would make me hallucinate.
(31:13):
You know, sometimes you're like.Just to clarify though, I
shouldn't have been. Yes, there was something
questionable growing in Ally's backyard and I pointed it out to
her and I was like, maybe I'm hallucinating.
So this would be the second timethis month, but then
potentially. Hallucinating.
Both see it in person. Yes folks, he was not.
I was not hallucinating and we were able to validate it.
(31:36):
Just like that check I am not hallucinating about she rap, she
is real. She is Roby's shield and
fortress so that she will never be heard again.
Yes. Exactly.
It would go against her nature to not be vulnerable.
So this is The thing is that shegets to point out all these good
(31:57):
things about her. You know, she's vulnerable,
she's caring, she's loving. Shira would not allow her to do
that again. No, she would not have her heart
broken. Nope, she would not be that
woman. So she is going to Chris, just
in case you're wondering, she's going to take a break from
relationships. Roby is Shira is saying no, you
will not, you will not, you willnot open yourself up to this.
(32:17):
This is not going to happen for you, and so you're going to take
a break. Of course, Roby doesn't need the
complications of a relationship.She just got out of a decade
long when she has three kids that apparently she thinks she
should maybe prioritize. I love that because there's like
an asterisk, like a follow after, like, oh, and then I have
kids to take care of. Like my God, woman, isn't that
the priority in your life? And we will see throughout the
(32:40):
years. Actually kind of not.
No, she doesn't work, but she needs nannies.
She doesn't have a brain, but she needs Shira.
She needs a lot of help. She needs a lot of help from a
lot of different people. She still was sure that she
wanted to join somebody as a plural wife, though.
She's not. She's not going into
relationships. We're not doing that.
(33:01):
We're not. We're not looking.
We're not dating. We're not worried about that.
We're not. But just in case you're
wondering, I do still want to enter into something as a plural
wife. Also, I don't care about looks.
Not. It's not important to me.
You can be fat or skinny, you can be blind or deaf, or you
(33:21):
can. You can have skin or no skin.
Your organs can be on the outside or the inside.
I mean. Yeah, she doesn't care whether
you're alive or dead as long as you have money for her and her.
Children and you have to be caring, unselfish and strong.
Yes, those are the only other things.
(33:41):
Simple. As long as you can check those
boxes, you're good. Well, the next time she gets
married, which she is not looking to do, then that man
needs to be a good man and a good father figure.
Yeah, you know, that totally makes sense.
That's what I always think when I'm thinking about how I'm not
going to be with someone. And so she took some time not
dating, and then she took some time to repair those wounds.
(34:02):
Yeah, some of those wounds rightthere.
And she just, she put some band aids, Oh God, band aids on her
wounds. Allie, what color are those band
aids you're putting on your on your body?
Well, it depends. Maybe.
OK, what year could this possibly have been?
Maybe they're Shrek band aids. Maybe it's a Shrek Band-Aid.
Yeah. Or it could just be a good old
(34:25):
tan tan Band-Aid. Band-Aid.
See, I think given the shape of Roby's head, she'd go for
SpongeBob SquarePants. What square band?
Yeah. And there was probably SpongeBob
ones then, too with. Yeah.
So, yeah, I agree. Yeah.
But she, she's she's still repairing herself.
We're not doing anything, Chris.We're not doing anything.
No, nothing to do. No other than try to raise her
(34:46):
own children. Oh.
When she decides to. So after her divorce is
finalized and she's remembered that she has children, she
visits her cousin Reba and Lehigh Reba.
So guess what? We're going to have to have some
Reba McIntyre on this. Here's your one chance, Roby.
Don't let me down. Oh my.
God, we're gonna have to do a playlist.
(35:08):
Oh yes, on Spotify. Episode.
Well, we're gonna make one. We're gonna make one Sister
Wives soundtrack. This is the only one that's
that's LED us to this and I'm feeling really good.
OK, yeah, well, I was thinking about, you know, I have to bring
in Jesus Loves Me for a sunbeam from our episodes that I like
that song, You know, there has there's more opportunities.
All right, all right. Well, stay tuned, ladies and
(35:29):
gents. Stay tuned.
You're like, Kristen is winning ideas.
So yeah, like, cool. I hate that song but OK.
If you can find a version on Spotify, can't wait.
Oh my goodness, Roby Brown. Complete disgust.
Well, lucky for you Ali, I did find a version of Jesus Wants Me
(35:53):
for a Sunbeam on Spotify, and you can find the URL for the
Spotify playlist in the episode description below.
Oh my God, for real. Like this is a surprise to me
too, you guys, I. Just made I made a Sister Wives
soundtrack playlist and I'll be and we'll be sharing the URL for
that so you can all enjoy the soundtrack to our lives.
(36:13):
I guess I know what I'm doing tonight.
Some of them are real headbangers.
Oh. My God, Can you imagine?
I have to have several cocktailsto get through that.
Up next in the book Becoming Sister Wives will be the section
titled Sorority Sorority where we'll get to go through each
(36:38):
wives perspective of whatever that means and I cannot wait.
They all go to college and try to join a sorority.
I don't think that's what that means.
It's. Not that's amazing, but we hope
you all have enjoyed the clips from Sisterhood of the Traveling
Husband, which I have to say is a great title.
(36:59):
Let's give ourselves some props here.
That was a good. Title.
That's very good. I'll give you props.
Well, it came to me in a vision.What is it that they always
have? Hallucinating.
No, no. I was having a spiritual vision
like they always have. A testimony.
I had a testimony and it told me.
Sisterhood. Yeah.
The traveling husband. Yeah, the amount of times he's
(37:20):
running and told me about his testimony, I tell you sometimes
it's I was just. Waving my testimony in your
face. Now that would be a strange turn
of offense. It was just just another
recording evening here, so everything's fine, everything's
no worries. Don't send any mental health
professionals over here. Keep them.
(37:41):
Keep them over at. Roby's house.
And just another reminder for our listeners that Sisterhood of
the Travelling Husband is available on our Patreon.
You can find a link in the episode description.
It's a playground, like we get to do whatever we want, so This
Is Us. A little scary.
This Is Us putting things out ona public feed, so on a private
(38:03):
feed we will obviously be so much more well behaved and we'll
mind our P's and Q's. We'll think before we speak of
it. Can you imagine?
We'd never get anything done if we thought before we spoke.
Well, we'll take a cue from Robyand we'll really start
storytelling on our Patreon. It's going to be a beautiful
thing. And we thank you for joining us
on this journey. Into the crevices and the dark,
(38:30):
musty corners of becoming sisterwives.
We truly thank you for joining us on this journey.
Truly, truly, truly, truly. It's quite a ride.
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