Roadmap to Resilience: The Inspiring Journey of Hemaabh Khurana | Ep. 040 - My Thick Accent

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Gurasis (00:00):
Hi, this is Gurasis Singh and you're listening to My
Thick Accent podcast.
So relocating to a new countrycan be both an exhilarating and

(00:21):
challenging experience.
The excitement of exploring newhorizons and embracing
different cultures is oftenaccompanied by the stress of
leaving behind the familiar andstepping into the unknown.
As newcomers, we find ourselvesnavigating a sea of emotions,
from excitement to uncertainty,and sometimes even grappling
with relocation depression.

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In the pursuit of newopportunities, we are compelled
to adapt and persevere, even ifit means taking on various jobs
to make ends meet.
From handing out flyers on busystreets, driving Uber, and from
exploring the world ofconstruction to answering calls
in a call center, the journey ofan immigrant can be a patchwork
of diverse experiences, eachcontributing to a unique

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tapestry of growth andresilience.
And amidst the ups and downs oflocation and relocation and job
exploration, we often discoverindividuals who embody the true
spirit of resilience anddetermination.
And my guest today is one suchindividual, who embraced the
challenges of starting a newinner foreign land and turned
them into stepping stones ofsuccess, from sales to digital

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marketing, from tragedy totriumph.
His story will leave youinspired and motivated to
embrace life's uncertaintieswith courage and determination.
Please welcome Hemaabh Khurana.

Hemaabh (01:38):
Hey Gurasis, thank you so much for this introduction.
I feel like a celebrity.

Gurasis (01:43):
Well, we all are celebrities in our own lives,
aren't we?

Hemaabh (01:47):
We are Thank you so much.

Gurasis (01:49):
Of course, we're happy to have you here on the podcast
Hemaabh.
So let me start by asking you aquestion which I asked some of
my guests that what is this onehabit you have adopted that has
changed your life?

Hemaabh (01:59):
One habit that I've adopted and has become my second
nature is just which is verycliche Just eating right and
staying fit.

Gurasis (02:09):
Hmm, has that helped you in any way in your maybe
more clarity in your thoughts,or maybe it helps you in any
other way?

Hemaabh (02:18):
Oh, yes, For sure, More clarity.
Discipline just gives me astructure.
Also, if you're free ofdiseases, you have energy and
other to do other things.
So yeah, it has for surecertainly helped me a lot.

Gurasis (02:35):
Okay, so let me take you back to the time you spent
in Delhi before we get into yourCanadian journey.
Tell me a little bit about yourchildhood, a little bit about
your upbringing and affirmativeyears.

Hemaabh (02:46):
So my childhood upbringing has been a pleasant
one in terms of my family.
We had a loving family.
Four parents were working, Bothof them were working, so we
were put in a dayboarding schoolwhile growing up.
So that was something new.
At that point of time in Indiathat concept was upcoming and we

(03:10):
were in one of those schoolsvery few schools that had that
dayboarding aspect.
My childhood was great.
I have an elder sister.
I'm very close to her.
We're very thick.
She's in Canada too.
It has been great.
I wouldn't say that it wasamazing all the time but our
parents did the best they knewat that point of time and yeah,

(03:33):
whatever, maybe I get angrysometimes at a few things.
Then after that I justreconciled in my head they were
doing what they knew best.

Gurasis (03:42):
What was the focus was on growing up?
Was it on studies?
Was it like a certain path youhad to follow?
You were asked to follow, Justlike many of our South Asians
that asked to follow any certainpath Dr and Jinder, etc.

Hemaabh (03:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure , they had their dreams in their
minds but, weirdly, as a kideven though I wouldn't say that
I was a rebel, but I just didwhat I had to, and they let me
be I would say they let me be.
For example, my dad was a mathsteacher at some point of his

(04:16):
time and I hated maths and I wasnot even great at it, and he
understood that.
And he just let me be.
I would say that I'm reallythankful for that.
So he understood that and I wasalways closer to the
extra-curricular activities.
I was dance, music, sports andmy mom.

(04:39):
I think I get it from my mombecause while growing up, she
had music as a subject.
So, for example, I had commercewith maths.
I think during her time she hadarts with music or specialised
in music or something like that.
Yeah, they didn't forceanything down my throat.
You have to become this, youhave to study this.

(04:59):
They understood.
Now, if I think about it, Ithink they understood what my
strengths and weaknesses like.
They tried to nudge me in acertain direction.
Okay, we think it will be goodhere and after.
When I completed my high school, my dad actually got me the
forms to pursue charteredaccountancy, ca, and I was like

(05:23):
that's not happening, don'twaste that money, just give that
money to me.
Maybe I'll go out and buysoccer shoes out of that.
He did get those forms, butyeah, I ended up not giving that
exam.

Gurasis (05:39):
Okay, I think it's so interesting to hear that map
that I think for me also sort of.
You know, my parents alsoevolved from asking me to become
a doctor because everybody frommy maternal side is a doctor
and, more specifically, they'reall our dentists.
And then my father wanted me toget into the business as well,
which I never tried.
I tried for like a month or sobut then I was like no, that's

(06:01):
not happening.
So it's also amazing to see howour parents have also evolved
with time.
They have tried their best, Iwould say, but at the same time,
they're the product of theirown time.
I say this all the time on thepodcast and they just try to
pass on what they were taughtall their life.
So, but I'm glad to hear thatthat happened with you and that
evolution happened and they werenot forcing you anymore and

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they let you do what you want to.
Tell me if you could like spendor relive like a certain
childhood memory in Delhi.
If you remember somethingvividly, what would it be and
with whom would you like toshare that?

Hemaabh (06:37):
In Delhi.
Vivid memory would be whilegrowing up, just spending time
with my friends, withoutsmartphones.
That was the simple time.
And I still remember thosetimes while growing up.
I grew up in Rajori garden, Iwas born in Rajori garden before
moving to Duarka.
And you, just the way you'dconnect with your friends and

(06:59):
even family.
We would send out letters, evengreeting cards, maybe on the
Bali or Christmas, we'll postthem to our family.
So, technically, technology hasmade our lives easier, simpler
and helped us a lot.
It's not like I want to reverseeverything, but if given a
chance, maybe I would want torelive that moment where I talk

(07:22):
to my friend.
Hey, before sunset meet me hereat that gate.
Yeah, yeah, so that was nice.

Gurasis (07:31):
Okay, and I feel like you would also like, like you
said, you were like a rebel notrebel, but close to the bell and
I'm sure it would be verymischievous.
Also, do you remember any sortof like a mischievous incident
that you did?

Hemaabh (07:44):
My parents said that I was mischievous.
I don't think so I was.
I didn't do anythingdeliberately to be mischievous.
I don't think so I was.
But if if you listen to myparents accounts, they would for
sure say, oh yeah, he wasmischievous.

Gurasis (07:58):
Okay.
Did they ever share any certainincident or something with you?

Hemaabh (08:01):
There were certain incidents that tried to share it
that, oh, we gave you bottleand milk.
It was in a hotel in Hyderabadand you threw it.
It went outside the window.
We didn't know where did it goand I was a toddler, then Maybe
a strong toddler.

Gurasis (08:15):
Okay, well, that that explains the kind of answers my
question.
So let's just do it towardsyour passion, for you know
soccer and you would always likean athlete used to run like 10
kilometers a day or so, and butthen you know, obviously an
incident occurred in your lifeand and that really impacted
your life and that also theperspective on things that you

(08:37):
had.
Tell us about that.

Hemaabh (08:39):
So, as I shared that I was into extracurricular
activities while growing up Iwas really good at studies as
well.
I wouldn't say it was not.
I think till the fifth or sixthgrade when I was in the day
boarding school I was gettingregular, like on the regular I
was above 90%.
Then we moved to another housewhich was closer to our school

(09:02):
to to kind of shorten thatcommute in the evening and then
get off from day boarding and itwould be a conventional nine to
two PM school timings and itwas closer to the school and
then it was from a city, it wasin a village.
That is where I actually,horned by, I would say, my

(09:23):
athlete bit, and I would comeback from the school I would
just be out with my friendsplaying in the fields, in the
farms, trying climbing up a treeor doing something or the other
, playing with buffaloes,cricket all the time, playing
soccer, playing lawn tennis.

(09:43):
I had various.
I got enrolled into variouslessons.
I was in lawn tennis coachingduring at that point of time, at
some, at a certain point I wasalso taking, I was training for
badminton.
So I was doing all kinds ofsports there and then my studies
took a hit Right.
That year, I think I I scored63.

(10:07):
Something percentage, which wasa dip from 90 something to what
grade was that there wasseventh, I think I was.
I scored 63, but I kind ofexcelled into sports.
I was in my soccer team in myschool and my college.
I captained my team and we didreally well in our first cup
that we participated into and Iwas doing really well and I was

(10:30):
hoping that I would make acareer into sports.
I was dreaming about it andthat's what I thought.
But parents are like yo, youneed to do your graduation first
.
That's how they are.
Do your high school first.
They weren't even really.
They had no conviction in methat I would even pass through
high school.
So they're like we do your highschool first.
Okay, at least get a degreefirst and then do whatever you

(10:51):
want to do.
And then I enrolled into acollege which was just nearby my
house.
That was my criteria, so thatI'll just I'll just get to
college which is nearby my house, so I can play soccer in the
evening or in the morning.
So yeah, that was it.
But then in 2020 is when I metwith a road accident.
That was my last year of mycollege.

Gurasis (11:11):
Did it mean 2010?

Hemaabh (11:13):
2010.
It's been a long time.
2010 was when, yeah, I met witha road accident.
I was on bed rest for five anda half months.
A truck hit me and then all thebones in my body were broken.
I had multiple fractures.
I don't know even how manydoctors encountered either.

(11:34):
My knee was virtually just.
They had to virtually make itagain.
My left knee, right knee wasbroken.
My ribs were broken.
I was wearing a helmet,thankfully, but still it got
crushed.
I had stitches on my head, myarm broke and then they were.
These were the major fractures,but then there were several

(11:55):
minor fractures, so I somehowsurvived.
I'm really thankful to God andI'm thankful to my family and
friends.
I would say I just had to liedown in a bed for five months,
but they were the ones feedingme or taking me out on a
wheelchair or taking my dog outfor a walk.
So my friends are so nice,three of my Chuddy Buddy friends

(12:20):
.
They would take turns actuallyto take my dog out for a walk
after their work or afterwhatever they had to do and then
take me out on a walk on mywheelchair.
So I'm really thankful, I'mstill really good friends with
them, yeah.
So that's when my life changedand that's when I was like okay,

(12:40):
what to do next?
I was not job ready, I was notready for a corporate life after
what.
I how I completed my graduation, so the only thing was okay,
I've done my BBA.
What next?

Gurasis (12:52):
Before we get into the next part, tell me I remember
you were sharing that, yes, itwasn't tough for me because I
wasn't that conscious, but itwas tough for my family, but but
but I feel like definitely, youknow, in some way this incident
had shaped an outlook on lifeand maybe the decisions you have
made you know after that.

(13:12):
Tell me how did that incidentreally influence that?
And and has that experiencewith you know this overcoming
adversity after the incident?
You know this this like in anyway influenced your approach to
maybe problem solving?
Has it done anyway?

Hemaabh (13:28):
Oh, yes, for sure.
Whatever problem is how big orsmall, or adversity, let's say,
even if it was moving to a newcountry, or even relocating from
one house to another, lookingfor another job, I remind myself
I've been through a lot andactually I don't even have to
remind myself anymore I've beenthrough a lot is just a second

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nature.
It just automatically kicks in,which is that's fine.
I've seen worse, everythingwill be okay.
I don't even have to tellmyself I've seen worse.
I just it is how it is now.
It's ingrained in me.
So it has changed.
Yeah, you're right, it haschanged my outlook, even
subconsciously, even if I don'tthink about it.

(14:11):
Yeah which I would say I'velearned a lot that way.
One point I thought yeah, Ihave the world in my finger, on
my fingers, in my grip.
And then suddenly I was on bedrest from 10 to 15 kilometers,
like staying active throughoutthe day.
I was in a row staring at theceiling, doing nothing.
Even if I would sneeze or turn,it would hurt, because my ribs

(14:33):
were broken for example, I lostmy memory for a bit.
So then it took time for mymemory to get stronger and
stronger and come back to me.
So that was also like a six toeight month process, or actually
an year long process.
Strengthen my memory, because Iwould forget what had happened
a day before, and then slowly,slowly, what happened two days

(14:55):
before, a week before, and thenall the it came.
It all came back to me then.
Yeah, it was long ordeal andtask to be in a same like
physical condition to functionat a certain level again.
I went through eight surgeries,so even that I even remember
one of the surgeries.
I think I told my ACL after itwas I had been through a lot.

(15:19):
I told my parents don't worryabout it, and then it was only
me.
I went in, I checked myself inthe hospital.
The next day, for the day of thesurgery, I checked myself in.
The next day or the day after,my parents came in and they
picked me up.
They wanted to come with me.
I was like please don't,because I know you stress a lot.
I've been through a lot ofsurgeries, I think now I can

(15:41):
handle it myself.
I checked myself in, came backhome, they came to pick me up
and I was back.

Gurasis (15:47):
So, yeah, I think that transition tells you a bit how I
progressed, how I started tomanage things and how, I would
say, dealing with some stressfulthings, how my approach to that
changed how it kicked in, butmoving to Canada was a different

(16:07):
ball game altogether, though wedid talk about it later, yeah,
yeah, but you know, at this mysecond meeting with you, imab,
and I can see that how you havereally taken all that
adversities in a way that youhave found the good in it
somehow and you feel like it has.
It has really shaped you, theperson you are today, and I see
that you are always likepositive and smiling about the

(16:30):
things that you talk about.
You know, and that's incredible.
That's really a nice approachto take.
Otherwise, people do get boggeddown by the things that happen
in their life and and especiallywhere you, where you want it to
always be like a soccer athlete, you know, like a professional,
and then transitioning intosomething else.
But tell me, you know, sinceyou're the right person to ask
this question, if, if anybodyyou know who is listening I hope

(16:52):
not If anybody is sort of likein a similar situation where
they are facing like anadversity or like a significant
challenge in their life, whatadvice would you give to them?

Hemaabh (17:03):
I was very lucky for that.
I had a supporting family andfriends and they were there.
I hope they have the samesupport.
If they do still and it wouldbe tough I would just tell them
see it through, hang in there,and there are several other
options to explore.
It's just not one.
There are various otheropportunities and horizons that

(17:26):
you can explore.
Focus on your health first, onrecovering, and if anything that
would I would suggestdifferently would be be kind to
people around you because theyare doing the best they can.
I don't think so.
I was always the kindest, eventhough they had nothing to do.
But if I think about it now,yeah, I would just be more kind

(17:48):
to people around you.

Gurasis (17:49):
Yeah, that's my takeaway, I would be more kind
to people.
Okay, so let's just talk aboutyour transition into MBA.
Then Tell us about that.
How did that happen?
Obviously, you told us ithappened because you wanted to
do something else after yourgraduation and tell us how did
that prepare you for your moveto Canada.

Hemaabh (18:10):
As in every household.
For example, that's when,obviously, my parents always had
the streak as well become adoctor, do an MBA, or do become
an engineer or something likethat.
But earlier I had a say, eventhough I was not trying to be a
rebel, but I was progressing ina certain aspect of life and I
didn't really pay attention tomuch.

(18:31):
And they also thought the sameway that he's doing well, he's
going to be fine, they are doingtheir part, just nudging me,
but even if I'm not following,I'm doing something, or they're
not doing well in that otherfield.
And they were like okay, he'strying, he'll be fine.
But after my accident and so mylife came to a standstill and I

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didn't know what to do next.
I was lost.
I didn't know.
Then when, the one day Iremember, my dad showed me an ad
in the newspaper these are thecolleges.
This is an MBA college, they'rejust starting up.
It was Santa Mute, was BharatiAirtel's training division.
They are opening up MBAcolleges.

(19:12):
It was a PPP-modeled, private,public-private partnership model
with Igno.
And the ad boasted theirpedigree oh, we've trained so
many.
We have contracts with 60 pluscompanies.
We are anyways a sister companyof Bharati Airtel, so a lot of

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companies will come forplacements, et cetera.
So it seemed credible.
And my dad I could see he waslit up while I was showing this
ad to me he's like oh, you'vedone a BB, I think you should
now go for an MBA and just gofor further studies, it'll help
you.
And I also realized somewherethat I was not job ready after

(19:58):
my graduation and I was like,yeah, I think that is the right
move.
After a BBA, what next?
I think that seemed like anautomatic, fitless go for an MBA
.
I remember how I was on mywalker still at that point of
time I was recovering.
So that's how I got into my MBA.

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And then, first day, firstclass, first marketing lecture.
I fell in love with marketing.
I was like, okay, this is whatI have, this is what I want to
do.
No finance, no HR, nothing.
Oh, I fell in love withmarketing.

Gurasis (20:33):
How did the decision to move to Canada came up and how
long was the process for you?

Hemaabh (20:39):
So after my MBA I worked in India for about three,
three and a half years.
My first job was at a researchagency, a KPU, and then I got
into lemon tree hotels in themarketing team.
Moving to Canada was my sisterwas in the US and then she was

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planning to move to Canada.
I would talk to her she is mybest friend.
I would say we were reallyclose.
We're still very close.
She was moving to Canada.
She said I would be, so youshould also plan.
And then there was anotherstory that I don't think so I
told you as well.
I was going parallelly with theaccident, with me going for an

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MBA.
So after my accident, whenthings I was like okay, what
next?
Everything was put intoperspective, I actually came out
to my parents after my accidentand while doing my MBA.
So that was again anotheremotional.
I would say that that was a lotof emotional, yeah, roller

(21:47):
coaster.
It took an emotional toll on me.
I was anyways recoveringphysically and I was like and I
decided to come out.
And then there was another likedifferent stress and tensions
in around the house and mysister helped me a lot there as
well.
My parents, even though theycome from, I would say, like

(22:10):
educated backgrounds, they'vehad those.
They had that awareness about,you know, homosexuality, people
from the LGBTQ community mybrother was relatives who
attended my sister's marriage.
I remember they were like oneof them was a gay couple.
They came up with the surrogatedaughter.
The mother was fine with thembut when I came out she wasn't.

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She took her time but she wastrying her best to.
It was out of love.
She was trying her best to.
She was in her, I would say,adversity mode.
She was like how to overcomethis?
I will fix it.
My son will be fine Because sheknows what the world is cruel

(22:55):
and he just had this experiencewhere he met with an accident.
He's broken physically.
Oh, she needs to take, becauseI was always bullied while
growing up as well, even myschool years.
So she was like, oh shit, Ineed to protect her.
So her motherly instinct, Ithink, kicked in and that's why
it was, but it was coming off asin she's.
Yeah, she was not on board withit, but it took some time.

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I stuck to my guns.
My sister helped me a lot, andthen she, and then that was also
one of the major factors for meto move to Canada.
My sister is here and she saidyour life over here, which I
understood.
After a while I was like, sureyou are there and okay, I'll
just do what everybody's tellingme to do.

(23:44):
I think that was a bit of adifference.
I, after my accident before, Iwould just do what I want to do
After that.
If somebody's telling me my, my, if, like trusted person is
telling me you know this will bea good thing for you, then I
would at least evaluate thoseoptions and then take my
decision.
I think, that's what changedafter my accident.

Gurasis (24:03):
Yeah, but but tell me, Amab, like what, what happened
in that moment?
Why, after that, after thatcertain adversity, you thought
of coming out?
Tell me about that.

Hemaabh (24:16):
Earlier, my life was just go, go, go, go, go.
Like I wake up in the morning,maybe I'll go to play soccer,
maybe not, maybe I'll just go tothe college, walk there, play
soccer over there, study, comeback, play soccer, go to the gym
late evening or just be on thego I would.
I never had that time to think,even though, even though I was

(24:39):
bullied all the time, I wascalled names, but then still I
thought I don't know what'shappening, like I was living my
life.
I was still living my life.
If I had to sing, I would sing.
If I had to be in a danceperformance, I would do that and
I would do.
I would be one of the top ones,like great ones, doing that.
If I have to play soccer, Iwould play soccer and I will be
so great that I'll I'll becomethe captain of my college team.

(25:01):
Sure, why not?
But it's not that.
What.
What?
When I decided, then I put backwhen I was on bed rest and I
kept thinking, oh, my God, okaythis.
And then I thought about itlike, oh shit, I've been gay all
my life.
Oh, that is what it is.
Oh, that is what it's called.

(25:21):
Oh, that is what other peoplewhen they were bullying you,
that's what they were doing andthen slowly coming to terms with
it, coming to terms with the,with my accident.
Then I went into therapy for abit and then she helped me a lot
, and here as well, I would sayI have to thank my sister

(25:43):
Because she nudged me.
She took advice from a lot ofother people my brother-in-law's
relative, who is actually gay.
She took advice from them aswell, like what should be done
next.
And then then I went to therapy.
I came to terms with mysexuality, about my life's truth

(26:05):
now after the accident, andwhat are the options.
So I actually had to work a loton myself physically and of
course and mentally, yeah, andthen I was around with the right
people.
I was lucky.
My friends, they all.
They've been really nice to mesince.
And my family, they've beenaccepting.

(26:28):
But yeah, I wouldn't say it waseasy, for sure I stuck to my
guns.
I stuck to my guns and I saw itthrough.
I'm happy about that, andthat's when I decided okay,
let's, let's move to Canada mysister will be there anyways and
LGBTQ rights here are waybetter than what they were in

(26:51):
India at that point of time, andit could be an easier
relatively easier life.
That's what I thought.

Gurasis (26:59):
How, how, how long after that your parents were
okay with that.
But I also feel like in thatmoment I think, finally since
you said you were always on thego, I think during that accident
that one year or so you got thetime to really introspect and
question the things you neverquestioned before and you were
maybe having that in a dialogueto really face your thoughts or,

(27:22):
you know, face a devil, so tosay, and really come out with
conclusions.
That's going to benefit yourfurther years of your life.
And you did that.
But tell me, how long did yourparents take to really accept
that?

Hemaabh (27:33):
My dad, I think, took six months, or that's what I
believe.

Gurasis (27:38):
My mom.

Hemaabh (27:39):
I remember clearly it was two years or something.
There was constant battles,constant fights, and it's not
even that I wasn't like livingin a different house, If we were
in the same house.
I used to come at a boilingpoint sometimes.
Sometimes he would ask me to goto a doctor or something or the
else, so he, that doctor, cansay let's go to the Pundit G or

(28:01):
something or the other.
But yeah, she was trying to,she was trying to just do
whatever best she could.
She was trying to protect meand everything was coming out of
love.
Maybe it not, maybe it wascoming out, yeah, concerned, and
it was coming out of love.
She was grieving the loss ofher daughter in law.

(28:22):
That never happened, so, butnow she's, she's like, it has
come to like.
It is just complete 180.
She's super fine she.
So yesterday it was herbirthday and we were all
together Me, my partner, myextended family.

(28:44):
So now it's just a happy time.
I'm glad I saw it through andit's just.
I could have never imagined thelife that I have now, that I
will be able to live this life.

Gurasis (28:54):
In India.

Hemaabh (28:55):
It's yeah, it's just beautiful, yeah, and in India
anywhere I think in India aswell.
When I came out, I was.
After that, I was in India forquite a bit.
I actually started exploringthere as well and at certain
points I was.
At some point I was actuallyperforming in India at KT Su in
LGBTQ parties.
I was singing there 2017 NewYear's.

(29:17):
I was in Kolkata Lalit Hotel.
I was performing in the NewYear party there.
So I was singing in a queerevent over there.
So I was actually living mylife there as well.
I got a chance to perform atthe Pride stage in Delhi and I
did that.
So it was fun, I was living mylife.
But yeah, it would be.

(29:37):
It is relatively easier here.
When the government and theconstitution recognizes that as
well, it makes your life easier,for sure.

Gurasis (29:45):
Well, that's awesome.
I'm very happy for you and very, very happy for you genuinely.
You know, because I knowespecially people who come from
those South Asian nations.
It's kind of hard for them tocome out and come into these
terms with things.
Okay, so let's just pivottowards your journey in Canada
in 2018.
You landed, you were telling me, before January 2018.

(30:07):
So tell us about your first day, your initial thoughts and your
initial emotions.

Hemaabh (30:13):
It was a shock because that was the first time I
actually left my nest ever.
And then it was just.
I was just.
I kept saying that to my cousinwho came to pick me up at the
airport Like what did I do?
Why did I come here?
Because my sister was still inthe US.
It would be another one and ahalf years till the time like

(30:35):
she would move to Canada.
I was thinking, shit, what didI do?
Because I couldn't see at thatpoint of time.
Okay, it'll all be for the good, it'll all be for the best.
I was thinking I had a reallyhappy, disabled, satisfied life.
I didn't have to pay rent.
Whatever I was earning, I was Iwas spending it all.
Maybe end of the month asking500 rupees more from my mother

(30:56):
because I spent all my money.
I was like I was doing well, Ididn't have to cook, you
outsource your ironing and it'sjust.
You don't have to do anything.
There's help for dishes, forcleaning the house.
You have to do everything byyourself.
It's like what have I done tomyself?

(31:18):
I have no clue.
And then I started applying forjobs.
That was my first day.
It was.
I was numb.
If I think about it now, I wasnot thinking anything.
I was just complete blank.
I was like Okay, what next?
It feels different.
It's cold, it's snowy.

(31:39):
That was my first time Iactually saw snow in my life as
well.
I'm like I don't know.
I don't know how will it go.
But I knew in my hearts ofhearts that sure I'm here now.
Obviously I'm not going back.
I will see it through.
But the first day I was likewhat did I do?
I don't know how it's gonna endup.

(31:59):
It was just another chapter,yeah.

Gurasis (32:04):
What was something that you were not prepared for, that
this is going to happen, likefor me, for instance?
I've said this before in thepodcast.
For me, it was a combination.
I was just sure that it's gonnatake forever to find a house.
Did you have anything similarthat you were not prepared for?

Hemaabh (32:18):
So I am very fortunate that way that I found a place
nearby, like Miss Sagar downtown, so nearby that, and it's a
very.
It was a clean place, cleanplacement.
The landlords were really nice.
I've heard horror stories aboutlandlords, what they do.
Oh yeah, I've been and I stilllive at that same place.
I've been really lucky.

(32:39):
I'm really fortunate.
They are such kind and generalpeople.
So I was lucky in those regards.
Finding a place was nice, butfinding a job I didn't think
that it would be that tough.
The credentials that I had, thework experience that I had in
India, even though while beforemoving here I did a digital

(33:01):
marketing course, because Irecognized that fact that
digital marketing was the way togo, like offline marketing,
even demographic, psychographicchange from North India to South
India and I'm moving countrieswho would really trust me and
give me their offline marketingassignment.
It wouldn't be that easy and Idon't know anybody in the

(33:24):
country.
I had zero networking skills.
So yeah, but I thought thatI'll just do some a course in
digital marketing that cutsacross borders.
The platform behind the systemis the same, the concepts is the
same, and then that is what Iwas aiming for, but I never
really thought that it would bethat tough to find a job in my

(33:48):
domain, the kind of job that Iwould want and it took me.
I would say from that point oftime it took me year and a half
to land a job that I would wantto pursue and I liked is in line
with my skills and my studyeducation.

(34:08):
Before that that one and a halfyears and then in the middle I
did, I would say, n number ofodd jobs, different jobs,
exploring the other jobs.

Gurasis (34:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know, usually the transition from one
job to another is, anyway,different and it's always
obviously challenging, but youwould up for that challenge.
You did all kinds of jobs.
You started with that sales jobthat you did, you know, at this
company called like LA Fitness,I believe, and you were telling
me that you know you used tolike go on the streets and hand

(34:40):
out those coupons or trials thattell us about that.
What was that about?

Hemaabh (34:44):
So, yeah, that was my first job in old Toronto, so I
used to commute from my place.
It was an hour 45 minutes.
I didn't have a car, so thepublic transit, yeah, it takes
time.
I wanted anywhere between oneand a half to one hour 45
minutes and I would be thereevery day.
I would go out with my bag,with my water bottle, heads,

(35:05):
giving out, handing out sevenday trial passes, getting those
leads and getting them comingback to the gym, punching them
in the system in RCRM, callingthem trying to sell memberships,
and I would.
I'm really glad for that workexperience.
I'm really thankful because Igot to explore every other
summer event that was happeningin Toronto at that point of time

(35:28):
, because I was on the streetsall the time.
Yeah, on the street, yeah, Iwas giving out passes.
I would be on the street forhours walking and I would say
somewhere, me being fit, forexample, really prioritizing my
fitness and my sports background, I would say, helped me.
Because my peers I would seethey would, you know, make some
leads up false names, falsenumbers.

(35:50):
They'll punch it in, maybethey'll be out for a few hours,
but they can't take the sun,they can't take the heat, they
would come back to the gym, butit wasn't the case for me.
I was also enjoying itexploring places, walking, being
on the street, getting thosenames and numbers, and two and a
half months I had two 69 leadsfor guys.

(36:11):
I had the highest number ofleads and they were all true
leads.
So I was having a great time atElevateness and selling those
memberships sales.
You get to interact a lot withthe people.
You get to see it was like aseamless, I would say, entry
into the Canadian culture andexperience and how they talk,

(36:33):
how they walk.
What are the words that theyrelate to?
If I say, if I call somebody,hey, buddy, how are you?
My, my fellow sales executivesay, hey, don't call him buddy,
Buddy is like, so, like as ifhe's not your friend.
It's just informal, Veryinformal.
No, it's like it's notauthentic.
You call them hey, bro, don'tcall me buddy.

Gurasis (36:57):
Like he's not authentic .

Hemaabh (36:59):
That's the pop culture.
You get to know the pop culturein and out.
For example, that was funLittle differences how they
carry themselves, how it iscultural nuances.
You get to pick up from thosesales jobs and I'm really
thankful, thankful for that.

Gurasis (37:19):
Can you think of any other examples similar to this
one in terms of the culturalshock?

Hemaabh (37:24):
There were many, I would say it's been a while.
On my last day they got a cakeand then we cut that cake, for
example.
And then how we do it in SouthAsia you'll feed that cake first
to everybody and then eat it.
And then I was trying to givethat piece of cake to somebody
else.
Oh, have it.
And they're like what?
No, what's wrong with you?

(37:45):
Have it.
No, I'll take my own piece ofcake.
Like stop.
They were so new to them.
But one of the one of thepersonal trainers over there,
obviously born and raised inCanada, I think he had a lot of
South Asian friends whilegrowing up in Windsor he
understood.
He's like no, no, it's in theirculture, that's, it's fine.
It's like let's eat it.
Because they don't eat it firstThey'll have to feed you and

(38:06):
then only eat the way everybodyelse resisted.
I was under a shock.
I'm like did I do somethingwrong?
Like what?

Gurasis (38:14):
are you doing?

Hemaabh (38:15):
What are you doing?
Are you okay?
But that was one there.
There are several like.
These are the two that I couldthink on the top of my head, but
there were several.
Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed my stintover there.

Gurasis (38:26):
Yes, but that's true.
That's true that in India we docut the cake and give it
everybody, rather than puttingin plates and give it to
everybody.

Hemaabh (38:33):
It's yeah, I like that actually.

Gurasis (38:35):
It's pretty something.
This is something we knew.
I've heard from people.
You know I haven't actuallyexperienced myself, but yeah,
that definitely happened inIndia a little different year
and then after that, obviouslyyou know, you even drove Uber
for some time.
You also worked in constructionfor some time.
You also got a call center forsome time and then you were also
a doc trainer.

(38:55):
Yes, I want to.
I'm very curious about that job.
How did you get into this joband how was that experience like
?

Hemaabh (39:02):
So at LA Fitness, I did the job for about three months.
I was working hard on that jobbecause I was trying to save
money for this course, which wasthrough access employment.
It was a bridging program insales and marketing Because
nothing was helping.
I don't know what I was doingwrong.
Why am I not getting a job inmy domain?
I'm like, okay, this is my wayto go.

(39:23):
I need to do this course.
Maybe that will help.
Maybe those credentials willhelp on my resume.
And then I saved enough moneyfor my operational cost for the
next two months or I would bedoing that course and also save
some money for the course aswell, Because I didn't want to
ask money from home.
I, when I moved to Canada thefirst three or four months, I

(39:46):
asked money from my home becauseI didn't have a job and even
though my parents didn't sayanything, but the whole exchange
rate etc.
What they were transferringhere, I knew I was taking a toll
on them and it just didn't feelright.
I was upset about that.
I didn't really enjoy that fact.

(40:07):
So I was like I need to workhard If I need to do that course
.
Sure, that course starts inAugust.
I need to save money till thenfor my living expenses as well
while I'll be doing the course,and for the course and maybe a
month after when I'll getanother job.
Then also I thought I'll get ajob like after that, I thought
I'll get a job instantly, butthat was not the case.

(40:28):
Then again I found it a bithard to break into my domain.
Then I was like shit, whatshould I do?
And I was looking somethingnear by my house so that I have
time to cook, to stay active andto apply jobs side by side.

(40:49):
Then I saw this opening atDoctopia for a doctor, and
growing up I've had a pet.
I love dogs.
I've always been around animals.
When I moved from the city tothe village I was surrounded by
other domesticated animals cows,buffaloes, dogs, all of the

(41:09):
whole thing.
Then I interviewed there.
It was a 40-minute walk from myplace.
I used to walk to that placeagain because if you take a
public transport you'll have tochange two buses, you'll be
paying $6 and it'll take 35minutes anyways.
So I thought by walk it's 40minutes I'll just save money.
I'll just walk.

Gurasis (41:29):
So just to save money, you were walking 40 minutes.

Hemaabh (41:34):
Save money also because that made the logical sense
because there was no direct busto that place.
Even though it's now, I thinkabout, in the car, it's like
five minutes drive or maybe fourminutes drive.

Gurasis (41:46):
But then if?

Hemaabh (41:46):
you'd want to take a bus.
You'll walk to the bus stop.
You'll wait for the bus.
It'll leave you somewhere andthen wait for another bus.
It'll be like 35 minutes.
The whole process and walkingwas 40 and.
I was saving money, I'm likewhy not?
That's a win-win.
And then my backgroundobviously in sports, and I've
always been like walking all thetime.
The willpower was in you, yeah,walking to the college or

(42:09):
walking back from the college orplaying sports or running all
the time.
So I was fine with that.
I was like, sure, I'll walk 40minutes, why not?
It's doable and manageable.
Which was fine with me.
Then I interviewed a dog Topiaand I became a dog trainer over
there.
So it was mostly like a doghandler.

(42:29):
So there was a point of timewhere I handled actually 44 or
45 dogs in a room.
It was a great experience.
I still have videos from thatexperience that I cherish.
I'm singing to a dog, I'mtaking care of them, training
them.
It was fun.

(42:52):
Yeah, it was a good timebecause I was thinking like,
what next should I do?
Okay, what are my strengths?
What am I good at?
Okay, so I'm like I'm good withdogs, I'm good at anything
fitness related.
So that's how I landed my jobat a gym, first in sales.
So I was trying to marry myskills with what I really like

(43:15):
by passion or what I'm good at.
So I'm like, okay, sales,marketing, and then good at
fitness or dogs or something orthe other.
How do I marry and mix them andtry to find like a perfect
balance?
I'll be happy and earning moneyuntil the time I land something

(43:36):
that I really like.
Then that's how I worked withDr Topia.
That was such a physical,demanding job I would be
famished.
When I'll come back home afterthat, I'd be tired.
You'd find me sleeping on thecouch because I just sat there
for a few minutes after cominghome, removed my shoes and then
the next I would remember is mylandlord waking me up.

(43:59):
Hey, she know, you're okay,because I would be sleeping on
the couch because I was so tired.
I did that for, I think, twoand a half months or so or maybe
other.
And then I got a chance to workin sales again at Peloton
Fitness because they were justentering into Canada.

(44:20):
They were such a huge brand,viral brand in the US, so I took
up that opportunity.

Gurasis (44:27):
Then, finally, you got this you call it like a turning
point which was the digitalmarketing specialist job that
you got, and I think this is agreat testament to the
indomitable spirit of immigrants.
You did like eight jobs, likeseven, eight different jobs
before you actually get intoyour own industry, and I think
this is something I thinklisteners should really pay

(44:49):
attention to that when you cometo a new country, it's not that
easy.
You really have to go throughall this hurdle.
Then finally you get something,and of course, every story is
different, but tell me, what issomething different that you did
?
You think, after all theseexperiences from all these jobs,
what else something that youdid that really helped you to
finally land a job?

Hemaabh (45:08):
I kept applying, I kept upskilling myself.
I didn't just spend moneyfrivolously.
I would save, invest that moneyin a course, take a digital
course, like on LinkedIn, likeup, keep upskilling myself, keep
doing the courses that I didagain just to refresh my memory,
to be ready for that interviewwhen I land that opportunity.

(45:29):
And that's what happened,actually, between all those odd
jobs, I did construction, I didsomething, I did call center
doctopia.
I still kept upskilling myselfwhenever the chance came,
Whenever I thought it is theright thing to do so, and kept
brushing my skills, keptbrushing my courses that I'd

(45:50):
done before, so like preparingmyself, because I kept applying
for jobs parallelly as well.
So I was like, whenever I getthe jobs like get a chance to
sit in front of the interviewerof a job really want I need to
be ready.
So that was the thing that Iwould say I kept doing.
What I would do differently nowis would network more.

(46:12):
I did the best, what I knewdoing that time.
Everybody's journey is different.
I wouldn't scare anybody.
It's just that some people takemore time, some people just
land a job within two weeks,within a month, within two
months, maybe a few years.
I know somebody from my batchwho was a area head, some

(46:35):
manager, in India for a veryreputed company like one of the
big FMCG companies.
But he didn't find a job here,he just completely switched his
career to something else.
That's also happened that alsohappened.
So that is also fine.
Yeah, that is also fine.
So, yeah, everybody's journey,because I didn't have those
really Ivy League credentialsIvy League college credentials

(46:57):
from India as well, so nobodyreally knew what, which college,
what has he done?
What is that?
So that was different.
In my case, I would say, butyeah, I took some time and I
just, yeah, I would, I preparedmyself within that window.
When I landed an interview forthe Digital Marketing Specialist

(47:20):
role and I cracked it, that wasthe best job ever.
I would say that I've neverdone up until.

Gurasis (47:27):
Wow, why would you say that?

Hemaabh (47:29):
Great boss, great boss, great mentor.
I hope he's listening, hey.

Gurasis (47:34):
Max, I love you.

Hemaabh (47:37):
He was the best.
My colleagues, they wereamazing.
I learned so much the qualityof work that I did over there.
I'm always thankful to him.
I would thank my.
Whatever success I've had upuntil.
I would really thank him forthat.

(47:57):
He, yeah, under his guidance,mentorship, leadership.
So, yeah, I was very lucky.

Gurasis (48:06):
Yeah, so this one thing , mabhi, you were telling me
earlier and which really stayedwith me and I want you to expand
more on that, and which was,like you were telling that in
Canada, the more you put in here, the more you get back and just
have like trust the process.
I want to expand on that alittle bit.

Hemaabh (48:27):
So what I was noticing?
Either you come on a PR here oryou come as a student.
The more time you put in thiscountry, the more you get out of
it was what I was getting to.
It is getting to know how thecountry works, how the culture
is different.
It takes time.
So the more time you invest,either being studies or through

(48:50):
work, the more you get out of it.
This country rewards you.
It's not that it doesn't.
This country rewards you,recognizes that.
Yeah, I am in love with thiscountry.
I am.
I worked hard.
It's not that it's goneunnoticed and unrecognized.

(49:10):
It gives you the fruit in someway or the other.

Gurasis (49:15):
Yeah, definitely, I think it's going to be five
years for me, like we werediscussing before, and I have
seen the, the evolvement in memyself.
I feel like now I'm like a goodat C's 2.0, you know where I
was when I landed because itreally prepares you, polishes
you, and I think it reallyprepare you to hone your skills
for the future years to come orwhichever the field you want to

(49:35):
get into.
But, yeah, definitely, I thinkthat's the best part about
Canada.
Of course, they are like verywelcoming to people from all
around the world and gettingthat exposure to people who are
here from all around the worldwhich you might not get back in
India.

Hemaabh (49:48):
Yeah for sure.
This is what I tell toeverybody now.
Like the experiences that I'vewent through here, I wouldn't
ever have come across ourexperiences if I was living in
my own safety of my parents.
I wouldn't really have to doall those things that I've done
here Now.
I sometimes joke around with mypartner.

(50:11):
I'm like yo, you throw meanywhere, in the most remote
part of the world, I'll survive.
I'll survive.
I know I'll survive whereveryou throw me.
If I don't know the language, Idon't know the people, I don't
know what to do, there's noindustry there.
If I have to fend for myself, Ithink I can survive.

Gurasis (50:32):
Yeah, definitely.
I think this one thing I alwaysused to wonder when I was in
India that how do these peoplejust go on these solo trips all
the time?
I was always wondering that howis that possible?
You know, they don't knowanybody, they don't know the
language, all these remote areas, how to do that?
But I think now, myself I havebeen to.
Just recently I went to onesolo trip and I was pretty okay

(50:55):
with it.
So I think this is just.
I think I would have never beenable to do that somehow in India
.
I feel like I might have liketried somehow, but it won't be
the same experience or the sameinformation I'm equipped with
right now, which I might not beif I would be in India, that's
for sure.
So you also talked about youknow I'm up experiences.
Just recently you were tellingvarious experiences, like we're

(51:17):
just talking about experiencesthat you get to be get here in
Canada.
Tell me, I'm sure there wouldbe experiences, since you have
done, like this, numerous jobs.
There would be situations wherepeople might be, you know,
questioning, questioning you, ormaybe your accent, or maybe
maybe just the way you look,because there have been
situations where you know Icould see where.

(51:38):
When somebody is genuinelycurious about the colors of my
turban or somebody is beingbluntly racist, I can see that
and always give people thebenefit of the doubt.
But I want you to share if youhave any similar experiences.

Hemaabh (51:49):
Oh yeah, undertones of racism, or even like somebody
being blunt racist.
I've experienced that as well,but I would like to put it out
there.
The experiences that I've had,which of have been that nature,
the good experience that I'vehad are into two or into four of

(52:10):
those Absolutely.
The experience that I had waswhen I was leaving one of the
jobs and my first job, and themanager over there said because
I think he was not happy aboutme leaving that job or I don't
know, maybe it was my last dayand I was taking it a bit easy
and he said be thankful, youpeople, when you come to Canada,

(52:33):
you work in warehouses.
And I didn't know what to sayat that point of time.
That was my first likeexperience of like upfront
somebody being racist and I wasshocked because I gave my heart
to that job and I was like, ohshit, what am I supposed to do?

(52:55):
What should I do?
And I was wait, I didn't sayanything.
If I would, I do somethingdifferently.
Now I don't think so.
I could be the same.
I just avoid move, yeah, andthen, yeah, I don't really want
to confront, even confront, thatsituation.
Maybe now that I've grown intoa different individual, maybe I

(53:19):
would confront it, maybe not,but it was just not worth my
energy and absolutely just forthat one person, one bitter
person.
I had like 10 nice people aroundme, so it didn't pay any
attention, like I wanted to giveit any heed and focus on the
good things.
And then there was one instancewhere there was somebody in the

(53:43):
leadership level.
He was used words like Orientalor something or the other in
his emails.
Whenever you talk to him or theother colleagues would talk to
that person in the leadershiprole.
You know right, it's undertonesof risk, how he's questioning
you, but then, yeah, you, butthen that was I was just, that

(54:06):
was the place I was talkingabout.
I learned a lot there as well.
So I for that one person, I hadfive different individuals who
were as kind and as beautiful,as nurturing as possible.
So, yeah, so I've had thoseexperiences as well, but I've
had plenty of good experiencesas well.

Gurasis (54:27):
But I think that's the right approach to take a map,
that a focus on the good, ratherthan these hateful comments,
because I feel like thesecomments, if you really focus on
that and keep them with you,really stop you from your goal.
The reason that you have cometo Canada is not really to give
answer to these people or toapply to these people, is to
focus on your goals and focus onthe milestones that you have

(54:47):
for yourself.
But yeah, that's definitely theright approach to take.

Hemaabh (54:51):
You find your tribe, you find your people, and it
didn't even bother me that much.
I think it's wrong to saydidn't bother me that much at
that point.

Gurasis (55:03):
I don't know why?

Hemaabh (55:04):
Because I was enjoying, I was having a time of my life
and that one comment is likeyeah, whatever, I didn't pay any
.
Yeah, if you move, I wasenjoying my life still.

Gurasis (55:19):
So now he might be in the final segment of the podcast
.
I call it beneath the accent.
I'm going to ask a couple ofquestions.
You can answer them in one wordor a sentence, or however you
feel like.
The idea is just to know moreabout you.
So ready, yes.
So first is, what's the bestpiece of advice someone ever
gave you?

Hemaabh (55:38):
Don't think, just live.
It has been summarized intodon't think, just live, but yeah
, it has a lot of background toit and how you come to that
state where you're not thinkingwhat, we're just living.

Gurasis (55:51):
Any worst piece of advice someone ever gave you.

Hemaabh (55:54):
A few people that I was networking with.
I thought they are my networkand they're actually my friends,
but they were not and it tookme a while to figure it out.
They gave me a lot of badadvice is how to network or whom
I should network with, how togo about it.

(56:14):
There were a lot of bad,negative advice that they gave
which made me question myself myskills.
Just coming out of that, Iwould just say that just always
believe in your skills and, yeah, listen to everybody, but do
what you have to do.

Gurasis (56:28):
But what, then, is specific they were telling you
to do?

Hemaabh (56:30):
Nothing.
They were just setting up,setting me up for failure.
So, with the set of advice isthat they were giving me?

Gurasis (56:37):
I just like we just have to gauge whether it is
really for your benefit or not,because sometimes we are so
vulnerable in that situation.
You end up listening toeverybody and doing everything
that they are saying.
But be a little mindful of yournext test before taking them.

Hemaabh (56:50):
For sure you put it beautifully.
Actually, that is what it is.
Because you are in such avulnerable situation, you do
whatever.
Because your hoomans arewhatsoever, whatever.
Somebody tells you you areready to do that, and I was in
that mindset.

Gurasis (57:03):
Yeah, okay.
If you could travel back intime to your first week in
Canada, what advice would yougive to yourself?

Hemaabh (57:10):
You'll be fine.
All those life instances,experiences that you've been
through have been preparing youfor this moment.
And, yes, start applying forjobs ASAP.

Gurasis (57:23):
So is this something you recently bought and you now
regret?

Hemaabh (57:26):
I haven't bought anything.
That I regret.

Gurasis (57:31):
Okay, so you are saying you are like a very mindful
buyer.

Hemaabh (57:34):
For sure yes.

Gurasis (57:35):
Okay, okay.
So what's next on your bucketlist?

Hemaabh (57:39):
The next on my bucket list is it is just to grow in my
career.
Actually, not something like abucket list, but it's like a
goal.

Gurasis (57:47):
So if you could have one superpower, what would it be
?

Hemaabh (57:50):
To give everybody those basic needs food, shelter and
clothes everybody should have it.

Gurasis (57:57):
Who's your go-to person when you feel stuck?

Hemaabh (58:00):
My sister.

Gurasis (58:01):
So are there any movies that you like to watch over and
over again?

Hemaabh (58:04):
Kung Fu Panda.

Gurasis (58:05):
Okay, is this something you're watching recently?

Hemaabh (58:09):
I am waiting for the season two of Heartstopper.
I think it lands on Netflix ina few days.

Gurasis (58:16):
Okay, I'm not sure about that.
Sure, what is it about?

Hemaabh (58:19):
So it's about a kid in middle school, I think, or high
school, who is coming in twoterms with his sexuality, and
this other guy who's in thefootball team he's the captain
and he was also coming in termsof his sexuality is coming out
and they're growing relations.

(58:39):
Season one was, I think, one ofthe top most watched series in
Canada, so I'm really waitingfor season two.
Yeah, it's been a year.

Gurasis (58:51):
So describe Canada in one word or a sentence Home,
okay, so finally, if you couldleave me with one piece of
advice, what?

Hemaabh (58:59):
would it be, just keep doing what you're doing.
You're doing great.
And this podcast that you have,how you've developed this
podcast, how you've come to it,how you're investing time and it
with your regular job, I thinkit's your passion.
I hope it grows and grows, andgrows.
So I just say, keep doing whatyou're doing.

Gurasis (59:15):
Perfect, thank you.
Thank you, marv, for being onthe podcast and adding value to
my listeners.
Thank you.

Hemaabh (59:21):
Thank you so much.
It was, yeah, I hope I didjustice to it 100%.
Thank you so much for having me.

Gurasis (59:28):
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(59:48):
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