September 10, 2024 • 42 mins
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Have you ever wondered if childhood memories of mystical beings and psychic experiences are more than just flights of fancy? Join Blaire Stanislao and Shantana Telise as we explore the profound impact of belief and self-awareness, beginning with the importance of self-alignment and confidence as the true forms of protection against lower energies. Through the delightful story of a mantis named Celery, we explore the natural openness of children to the mystical. What is the value of nurturing these experiences?
We contrast traditional parenting methods with more open and communicative approaches, emphasizing the significance of understanding children's emotional needs and recognizing the early influences of parental energies. Witness how these childhood experiences shape behavior and underscore the innate sensitivity of infants to their emotional environment, paving the way for a more supportive upbringing.
As we delve into generational insights and recurring life patterns, we discuss the role of dream interpretation and psychic abilities, using personal anecdotes to illustrate the journey towards self-awareness. Unearth the misconceptions surrounding terms like "psychic" and "witch," and discover how spiritual practices can lead to personal growth, even through life's toughest challenges.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion
Center.
Welcome to our podcast Mysticaland Infamous, where we have
playful and easy conversationsabout anything mystical, getting
to the heart of all things,strange and weird.
Join us in a bit of magicaltomfoolery, spreading the
alchemy of love and light.
And now we invite you to enjoythe show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Foundation is everything for me, Because if
you don't have a strongfoundation, like you were
talking about, like entityattachments and stuff, if your,
if your vibrations going down,you're more susceptible to those
lower energies.
But if you learn that have thatstrong foundation and you can
bring that up, then you can justgo and everybody else's stuff
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just kind of it doesn't stickbecause your energy is strong.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I just had a hypnosis session yesterday with
somebody, and let's see what wasa.
It was this similarconversation where you're you're
getting grounded or centered orwhatever you want to call it,
where you're getting aligned andyou feel confident in yourself,
which is when I teach Reiki.
That's the phrase that I use,because the word protection has
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a lot of connotation.
So on some level, to say theword protection, it means that
you have a fear of somethingelse, right?
Protection the actual word isnot the best, in a sense,
defense.
The best defense is to becentered and grounded and know
who you are right.
So that's what I say with Reikiis like you know, you're
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remembering who you are,therefore you get stronger, and
that is your protection.
It's not necessarily thatyou're setting up a barrier or
not.
That's okay, you can set up abarrier too, but by doing that,
you're acknowledging thatthere's a reason to have a
barrier, right.
So you're giving.
In a sense, you're kind ofgiving your authority over and
saying I'm not sovereign You'vesaid this before I'm not
sovereign over my own being.
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So therefore I'm going to usethis protection.
So I think it's a real misnomerNow something that's coming in
and I don't really know why.
Maybe we'll figure it out.
I saw this post.
There's this amazing woman whoI've tried to get her to come on
my podcast.
She's just busy living life andI never actually met her.
I knew her through a friend ofmine and my friend said you've
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got to connect with this person.
So I did on social media butlike she lives in Arizona, I've
never met her.
But her husband is an artistand she makes these posts and
they're just, she's just likealways on the path of this stuff
.
So she made this post and itwas a picture of a mantis and it
looked like the mantis was on,like this teal green, I don't
know, maybe a like a wickerchair or something, and it's,
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you know, it's a really smallmantis, you can see, and she
says she loves havingconversations with her daughter
because this mantis came up andthey said that she is, or the
mantis is the color of hercelery.
So they named the mantis celery.
So they have this conversation.
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The mantis is all walkingaround while they're and doing
different things while they'rehaving this conversation and
doing different things whilethey're having this conversation
.
And I thought to myself so I'veheard this several times over,
especially with people who are,who experienced this psychic
awareness, and they're withpeople who don't know that or
that is scarce them, especiallyas a child I think you
experienced that too wherethey're psychically aware and
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then as a child, because theydon't know any better, they say
something and then they getwhatever shunned right.
So then they spend the rest oftheir lives kind of overcoming
that, whereas and I think a lotof the people who are in this
they come to realize that maybethey've had past lives where
they shared something like thisand essentially they were
murdered and probably murderedin a really terrible way.
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So you've got that ancestralstuff.
Essentially they were murderedand probably murdered in a
really terrible way.
So you've got that ancestralstuff.
But I always thought that about.
So I was told that I was.
I was a crystal healer in a pastlife.
I've had dreams about them, youknow.
I've been told in thoseuncertain terms I used crystals.
Do I know how to use crystals?
I certainly haven't ever takena class in them.
However, ever since a child, Iwas one of those kids where my
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mom would, we would go on avacation or something and there
would be like that container ofrocks that were polished and I
go over to the container and ofcourse that made her happy.
I know as an adult now, it madeher happy because that stuff
was cheap, you know cause, like,oh, it'd be pretty rocks.
And I remember thinking, inconversations with people where
they're they're afraid to sharethat, that, um, people where
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they're they're afraid to sharethat, that um, I always say,
well, like you know, it's justreally easy to distract them.
You just say, oh, I like thepretty rocks, like it can be
really super shallow and be like.
You know, you can't argue withthat.
You know what I mean.
Like, do you really want toshun somebody because they like
something that's beautiful?
Or you know what I'm saying.
And it's like, uh, the.
I've heard phrases where peoplewere talking about, they shared
something, about their theirknowledge of the elemental, so
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fairies or any of that stuff,right.
And then they get, they getshunned and they get shut down,
whereas I'm like, why would youshut any kid down about
believing in fairies or seeingme?
Who wouldn't want to be there?
Who wouldn't want to see that?
Right, I don't know.
To me it's a little.
That's a little.
There's some sort of disconnect.
If you've got a child who saysthat stuff?
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Why would you not want toencourage whatever fantastical
world, whether it's imaginary ornot, who cares, it's fun.
Why would they not want to bethere?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
see, I think, like these, they say that once they a
kid hits seven, that that'skind of what it all goes away.
But honestly, it's, why wouldyou?
I agree with you because, like,I have a seven-year-old and I
see fairies all the time, like,and she's always asking me mom,
is our mermaids real?
Mom, is this real?
Is this real?
Is this real?
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And I'm like, yeah, even ifit's not in our dimension, it
still exists, like it came fromsomewhere.
And so I feel like there's likethat mainstream where it's like
, oh, we'll be judged, buthonestly, more and more people
are opening up to it, like I'vehad people message me and be
like, like, even family membersare.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like our fairy is real so they're looking for,
yeah, real, because it's funwell then, fairies are annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Let me tell you fairies in your house.
I'm telling you they will moveyour stuff, they will hide it,
they will play with it and buteven like my kid like, she's
always like mom.
I know I was like mermaid in mypast life and she's like I'm
gonna be a mermaid in my nextlife.
She's like I just know and I'mlike, yeah, you are probably
right.
And then I had, at the sametime she's telling you this, I
actually had somebody elsecompletely different.
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Be like are mermaids realmermaid land?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
today, yeah, yeah, well, there's a place in um
Florida called wikiwachi springs.
It's like source centralsomething or other.
I think it's central western.
But um, when I was growing up,so I was born in 77.
So that's how old I am, so itmust've been like the eighties,
okay, and my father took methere and I just thought it was
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the coolest thing.
And I think everybody who goesthere I've seen they have a
documentary somewhere, um prettymuch anybody who's into it they
just adore it.
They just like just I don'tknow why you would take anything
like that away from people.
Um, it's kind of like you knowyou like to watch this kind of
movie.
Why would you tell them it's abad movie?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
because people want you to be down on their level
yes they can bring you down.
And parents I'm, and I am aparent parents are the worst and
I know this might be a littlecontroversial, but but like I
don't agree with the way that Iwas raised, right, my parents.
I have the understanding thatmy parents did the best that
they could with the tools thatthey had.
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They were quite young, and sonow I look at raising my
daughter as I didn't like theway that they like I look at
them, I can analyze from thatoutside perspective, without all
the emotions, and go, okay, Ilook at them, I can analyze from
that outside perspective,without all the emotions, and go
, okay.
This part I do not agree with.
Here's where we're going tochange it so like for me,
parenting it's very differentand where my daughter and I
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actually have a relationship.
We actually talk, wecommunicate, we like she shares
stuff with me, like she's veryopen, because I've created that
space and that safety where mostparents it's like you need to
listen, do as I say, don't talkout of line like blah, blah,
blah, blah blah.
(08:15):
That's why they always rebel,right yeah, and, and I've been
even the way I raised my kid.
I'm like her.
Sometimes she'll have issueswith her friend.
Hold on, my throat went dry.
Even though she'll have issueswith her friends, I have to
explain to her.
I said, look, if you can lookat them as no attend or bad
attention is better than noattention, and then have that
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understanding and this is aseven-year-old kid that I'm
talking to, like she absorbs theknowledge.
And she and I was like, if youcan understand that, if bad
attention is better than noattention when these kids are
acting out, that should tell youright then and there that they
are not being seen, they are notbeing heard, they're not
getting attention at home andthey are being suppressed.
But what people want is just tosuppress their kids.
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They want to have kids and thenthey want them to shut up.
Why?
But if you can act like, theway I approach my parenting is
she asks these questions likeare mermaids real?
Yes, but in this dimension,here's how it works.
She's even asked me mom, how dopast lives work?
Like, because I always talkabout it and so I'm.
I explain that.
So instead of like, I just talkto her like a person where I
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don't think most people think todo that, because this is just
another human, another soul.
It's not like you know.
It's like people don't viewtheir children as that.
So they don't.
They want to suppress becauseof their miserable they can.
The easiest people to suppressand bring down to their level,
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even if it takes years to do it,are their own kids.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah and okay.
So what I'm learning and I'dlove to hear your input on this
is that you know, as infants, asbabies, we come into this world
.
First off, we're alreadyconnected to the mother, meaning
we know her.
We don't know words for them,but we understand her emotions,
right, because they producechemicals, and it doesn't matter
, you're just connected as ababy, you just are aware of that
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.
Then you get born and then youget exposed to your parents, who
are usually either male andfemale, or they have a masculine
and feminine energy, and so, asan infant, we're experts at
realizing or recognizing andunderstanding energies.
That does not mean that we cantalk about them Of course a baby
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can't talk, right.
It doesn't mean that we canknow what to do with them.
We don't even know what to dowith our own bodies, right.
So all of this stuff is kind ofhappening at once, and what I'm
learning, especially throughthe dream interpretation, is
just how smart babies are interms of reading energy, and so
we take the masculine andfeminine energies that are
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presented to us, usually fromour parents, and we extrapolate
our understanding and ourconclusions of those energies
and we put them out on everybodyelse.
So usually, if a mother islet's say that they're what
you're talking about which isyou do it my way or you don't do
it at all, right, like you'rethis control thing, then you
usually you start, you associatethat essentially that's a
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masculine energy coming fromsomebody who's supposed to
represent the feminine energy.
And so you kind of extrapolatethat and you say, you say in
your head, oh, this is how thefemale energy works, which, what
we're describing, there is amasculine energy, so the female
energy works with the masculineenergy, which is not true.
So it's a misalignment withwhat it is.
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And then we wind up projectingthat everywhere else.
And, um, what I want to share,the way that it has come up for
me.
So I'm cutting, currentlycutting the ties with my mother,
so that's supposed to be thefeminine representation, right,
but my mother also was like thatand it came through my dreams
and the person analyzing it saidyou know, you're seeing the
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feminine energy, kind of likewhat we were just talking about,
like the coming through is themasculine in a masculine way,
but really it should be morefeminine, open, relaxed, kind of
like you're talking aboutparenting your daughter.
So I'm, I'm in the process ofrecognizing that and um, well,
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what do you do with that?
Well, what does that mean, shesaid.
She said, uh, was your motheressentially masculine in this
way?
And I said, yes, did she run atight ship?
Basically, it was like did.
Was there order presented byyour mother?
Yes, there was order presentedby my mother.
And she said, okay, well, this,this dream, is saying you need
to work on that, because that'sessentially not the feminine
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energy.
And I said, well, what otherway is there?
Like there's, there's a friendthat I have in the group too,
and she's a twin.
And she said you know, that'sreally hard to usually process
that kind of stuff.
Somebody asked me what's itlike to be a twin?
And she says what's it like tonot be a twin Like you?
just don't know, you know youdon't know another way.
So it's like um, opening up toa different way.
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So I think I kind of think likethose energies where I think
what happens is, if we haveparent and I think that's why
people who are they go this path, usually had difficult
relationships or they havedifficult home lives or whatever
they have, things that aredifficult it's to get you back
in tune with your higher self.
Right, you're who you reallyare and when?
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Because when what somebodypresents to you is not what the
higher self says that the worldis, then you start to recognize
okay, that doesn't resonate withme.
So then it feels bad and thenyou go seeking right, like you
just know that there's anotheranswer, instinctively.
So, yeah, it's kind of weird.
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And she even said something thatthe effect of you know running
a tight ship.
She said it was exactly whatyou're talking about, which is
if there's a feminine energywho's acting too masculine or
the masculine energy is toostrong, it'll be things like
kids always sit in the back seat.
Kids, you know, are told to bequiet, that kind of thing.
And I giggled because even withmy husband just a few years ago
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, as we first started gettingtogether and he has a daughter,
so we'd have kids right in thecar, and so forth.
I was like, well, you know,generally speaking, I always
grew up with the adults sat inthe front seat.
It didn't matter who you were,adults always sat in the front
seat, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, was that not how it was with her?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
When you, I don't remember, I think.
I think I don't know.
For me I guess that was.
Well, that was challenging mybelief system, right?
What I understood it to be isthat the adults sit in the front
seat, but the adults sitting inthe front seat and not taking
into account if a kid has an andit has input, maybe they have a
reason for sitting in the frontseat or whatever.
And so I think she wanted tosit in the front seat or
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something, and I didn't.
Whatever I thought was like.
Well, this, this isn't really alegitimate reason, and adults
always sit in the front seat.
Why?
Why would the kids even thinkthat they sit in front seat?
You know, that's me in the, theclothing.
In a sense, that was meadhering to that belief system
that I had created through mymother.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of belief systems like that,
though, and, honestly, likethat is one that I do agree with
to a degree, where it's likeokay, like if, maybe if they're
getting car sick or somethinglike that, like they need to.
But, in my opinion, like, yeah,kids, like kids in the front
seat, like if you're going on atrip, generally, yeah, adults
want to sit together and sit.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, right, there's some, there's some logic.
I think it's where it getsblurry.
It's like there is some logicto that, Like there is some
logic to that.
And even I don't know when it'sbeen several years, but at some
point they, they started torecognize the accidents that
people were getting into.
If the person in the passengerseat weighed less than a hundred
pounds, they would get muchmore injured, Right, so you
don't want to put a kid in thefront seat if they're less than
a hundred pounds, you know, Imean, that's just like a logical
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thing.
That's not like you sit here,you sit there, but it was more
of a.
It was more about the, the ideaof the, of the the child is
kind of put in their place in asense, and that you have this
role and you don't.
You're not this flourishingyoung human who you know has
enlightenment or anything likethat.
But yeah, that's.
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I think it's definitely anantiquated way of approaching
parenting, but you know,everybody has.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Most people wouldn't agree, probably, with the way
that I parent or wouldn'tunderstand it because, like, my
daughter and I have a very, verygood relationship.
We do communicate a lot and shedoes know her role, but I also.
She is okay to call me out yeah, she is the first person to
call me out.
Or if, like, we're having adiscussion about something and
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she's saying, mom, you'reconfusing me, like I don't
understand.
Like last night we were talkingabout, um, not taking on other
people's stuff, little girlsthat were, uh, next door to us.
One of them wrote on the, onthe, on the cement, in chalk,
which which she cause she left alittle bit of her chalk outside
that I hate you, nyla.
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And I was like I got the momoutside and I'm like, look, this
is escalating now.
And so, from the physical pointthat I looked at it, I was like
, okay, I'm done, this is youguys.
Like your kids are like, andthey were friends, I'm like, um,
she's excluded from this group.
This is what's going on.
Like I laid it out into thismother, I was so fed up in a
nice way, but I'm like, this iswhat your children are doing and
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I don't think that anythinghappened from it.
I don't think she cared,because she is.
I don't think they're veryconnected, right like that.
There's that, there's a bigdisconnect there.
That's why negative attentionis better than no attention.
So then I had to step back andgo.
Okay, like I'm coming from the,I want to protect my kid, like
my mama bear is coming out, likeI'm going to go psycho and I.
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But I had to step back and go.
Okay, now, like what are youcreating here?
This is where I had to bringthe spiritual aspect.
They said I was like what areyou wanting?
Because at this very moment,the both of us, we both have to
take responsibility, because I'mtrying to protect you and I'm
getting my backup and I'mfeeding my energy into this
because I don't know what to do.
And you're creating thisbecause you're so focused on the
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fact that they hate you andit's being thrown in your face
so hard.
But I said to her I was like youhave two paths.
I said now we need to choose.
I said do you want to keepgoing down this path where
you've already, like she, thiskid has removed so many things
already, where she reallystruggled with, like since we've
been here and has come so far.
And so it was like I could justsee it was these two pathways
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being presented.
And I was like, okay, so youhave a choice.
You can either keep going downthis path and keep having all
this hatred.
And I said, well, how do youfeel about yourself?
Like, what do you think ofyourself?
How do you view you?
Because this is a projection ofyou.
Everything that's inside of youis a projection and is outside.
So look at this.
You need to, like, sit back andactually think.
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And then I said, okay, now lookat this other path, where now
you have all these other friendsthat are starting to and where
that really like playing withyou and you're having a great
time, you're enjoying yourself,things are working out for you.
You know like you're expandinga lot, you've really grown.
So I said now you get to choose.
Which way do you want to go?
And she's like well, this oneone, I like this one that's with
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all my new friends andeverything's going so good.
And I'm like okay, then we bothneed to stop feeding our energy
into this, because together,especially lately, we are
creating this.
And I said the universe did youthe biggest favor right now,
because they just wrote that onthe sidewalk.
You just got shown that this isreally not the place you want
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it's time to end.
And so she was like okay.
And then we were talking lastnight and she's like mom.
And I was like you cannot takeresponsibility for them writing
that on the sidewalk.
And she's like mom, you justtold me that I'm creating this
and now you're telling me it'snot me, I can't.
It is confusing.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, I was like but there'stwo ways of looking at it.
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You have to.
You're the creator, said if youcan create all that hatred
towards you, think of all thelove you can create.
Where do you want?
What do you want to create?
And that's what I said.
Like there's the difference.
There does not mean that youare responsible for their
actions.
You do not take that on, and soit's a little confusing, but it
is confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But adults go through the same thing, right, like
it's no different.
And you're right, it is.
It really is genuinely a giftand, of course, I think I
personally think it's really ablessing that she has you to
actually say that when she'syoung, so that she knows when
she's older, you know that'sthis becomes an automatic thing.
But I kind of find itinteresting, because it really
is the human predicament, likeas a whole.
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We don't understand how can weokay, we're creating this, but
now I want to not create that.
And there's a differencebetween focusing on the not
creating of it, which is stillfocusing on it, right, or
shifting my energy in a waywhere it actually I'm really
focused on doing something thathappens to be different, but
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really what it's doing isdistracting my attention from
that thing that I don't want tocreate.
So it's funny because my sonjust graduated this weekend and
this past weekend and they hadpractice for graduation on
Thursday and that was like theirlast day of school was
Wednesday, so Thursday theypracticed, so he had stuff to do
for school, then Friday he wasoff, he didn't have to do
anything.
Graduation was Saturday, so hemade plans with a friend of his
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to go hiking.
So they drive up to the top ofthe mountain and they go on a
hike and this is actually apretty well-traveled like it's
very popular around here pathand because it's up higher in
elevation, you know you're goingto have a little more snow up
there still snow on the top ofthe mountains and his friend was
walking in front of him, wasn'tany particularly far distance
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or close distance or anythinglike that.
She was just walking in frontof him and she slipped on ice
and she had her water bottle ormetal water bottle in her hand
and she threw her arm up tobalance herself.
She didn't even fall, but shethrew her arm up and he just
happened to be right there.
It hit his tooth, broke histooth.
Okay, now, what I findinteresting about this is that
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he broke his tooth.
Also, playing another game wasplaying like they call them
airsoft, like BB, little plasticBBs.
They shoot the boys, get allinto this, whatever that is, and
um, but he had orchestratedthis whole thing.
You were like 20 people at thisthing and he loves doing it, so
it was like a big deal, like hehad really planned this thing
out and they go through thewhole.
Maybe it wasn't 20 people thattime, but it was some people and
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they go through this wholething and at the very end one of
them shoots at him while he'ssmiling he just got his braces
off, okay, hits his tooth, brokehis other tooth because this
was before.
This is almost a year before.
This is literally like lessthan a week before school starts
and when school starts it's hissenior year.
When school starts the firstday of school, they have school
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pictures, which doesn't reallymatter because they weren't
actually using that picture, butregardless he would have a
busted out tooth in the picture,right, well, we were able to
get that part at least patchedfor the picture.
But here we are again doing thesame thing, literally less than
24 hours before he graduates,he gets his other tooth broken.
And I find what I find really,really interesting about it is
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like you were saying that yourdaughter is getting shown like
calling to her these people whoare not nice to her and saying
mean things to her and so forth,and it turns into this
manifestation of it being on thestreet, written in letters that
says I hate you, right, reallyhorrible, but that's factual.
Boom, you can't say that it'snot there.
It's like you have this eventhappen.
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Now you've got to have twochipped teeth, two chipped front
teeth.
I thought him, like you reallygot to work on this because you
don't have that many teeth, youknow you don't want to like, and
they weren't like breaking offin a piece where you could put
it back on.
It was like he said, both timesthey were really shattered.
But what he really alsorecognized on his own was, you
know, it could have beenanything that was different,
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like my face could have beenturned, I could have been a step
farther back, you know, likeanything.
But it was just perfect,luckily, just to get that one
tooth.
Matter of fact, he had thecolor from her water bottle
stuck on his tooth for a while.
But, but it's like we have togo to these extremes so that
when we start to recognize, oh,there is a pattern here, oh,
(24:19):
there is something that I needto shift that energy, we have to
go and say what is it I'mcreating that's causing this to
happen?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's different for adults,like, think about adults who are
in toxic relationships or they,you know, whatever it is that
they're manifesting in theirlife, they're manifesting it to
an extreme to pull them closerto themselves.
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So they recognize, then, thatthey have the power to change
things.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I always tell my kid, cause my aunt always says this
to me, cause my aunt's in herfifties.
And so she always says and I'm,I'm in my twenties.
So she's always like think ofhow far you've come.
Where you are right now, you'reonly 20.
I'm going to be 29 next month.
Holy shit, sorry, it's going tobe 20, 29 next month.
(25:08):
And I'm like, and she's alwayslike look, think about how far
you've come, and you're only 28.
She's in her fifties and she'slike it's taken me this long to
get to this point.
And then I look at it and she'salways says your children will
learn faster than you will.
New generations that are beingborn like.
They're very intuitive.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And they have parents who are saying listen to your
intuition, right?
Instead of shut up and be quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But I would say like, so I even tell my daughter I'm
always like you're only sevenyears old and you're already at
the stage where it's I'm 28years old and I said I'm now
getting that, that cognate,whatever it's called.
Like that, that realizationthat oh, hey, I'm creating this,
hey, this is the universegiving me this sign.
(25:56):
Like this is like, yes, it'sbeen the last few years, but
it's it's escalated so muchwhere I can pinpoint it really
quickly and catch myself whereshe's seven years old and I'm
right there to help her catch it.
So then by the time she's myage, think of the level that
she's gonna be on and so muchfurther ahead you know, teaching
.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I think I instinctively knew that.
So I taught public school forlike nine plus years and I
remember thinking that samething.
So I was not of so, so I wasn'tso much older than them that I
completely disconnected.
Like you know, generationallypeople usually have a hard time
with their parents, butdefinitely their parents.
Generation is what I mean, butalso, even farther sometimes, is
(26:39):
the grandparents' generation.
Like they just don't connect atall.
The kids don't get like.
Even my husband and I, we dostruggle some with the way the
kids actually schedule things,because when we were young you
had to schedule things inadvance, like the person
organizing it had all thedetails.
It was written on a piece ofpaper.
You handed it to your parent.
You also knew all theinformation.
The kids now they're like oh, Ihave this thing I have to go to
(27:01):
.
What time is it?
I think it's about this timeand when are you going to do it?
When it's going to be over?
Oh, I don't know.
You know, like they're justtotally cool with that.
There's all factors into that.
Anyways, there's thatdisconnect between the
generations and when I was ateacher I didn't have all that
disconnect in the sense that Iunderstood where the kids were
coming from and I did see themas little humans, which makes it
(27:21):
fun, so I didn't have thatrelationship with them.
That was that sit in your chairand be quiet kind of thing.
But it's, it's crazy how justthat little bit of leeway, a
little bit of understandingopens the door, because I didn't
have I didn't have a whole lotof behavioral problems.
I mean I can't say I neverwrote a referral, but I didn't
(27:44):
write more than 10 referrals in10 years.
Okay, and there's some peoplewho write referrals like every
day, right, and a referral isbasically you get sent to the
principal's office and you havea consequence.
But yeah, there's that, thatleeway, that transition between
where are you and and how areyou going to shift into this new
(28:05):
frequency.
Another thing I wanted to add is, uh, I wanted to share.
You talked about how far youhave come in this time period
and how far your daughter isalready.
I mean, I think probablyparents of children now also
feel the same.
I just want to share with thelisteners.
There really needs to be andI'll honestly I think it would
(28:27):
be better to have no judgment ofwhere you are personally.
Of course it helps also not tohave judgment of other people,
but we're mostly concerned withourselves.
And I say that.
And so I want to sharesomething that came up that I
was like holy crap, I can'tbelieve this.
So in the dream interpretationthe first one I got analyzed, or
not.
The first one this was this wasa little while into it, but I
(28:51):
had a dream about a celebrationwhich is supposed to be a birth
birth dream, and so I'm late tothe celebration.
That's not good in your dream.
And people were opening.
There were kids and an adult Ithink it was a husband.
The kids were opening presents.
Then we decided to put thepresents away.
So we go into this room to putthe presents away and I have in
my hand a toy.
That's something that theyopened.
And I was like what is thisthing?
(29:15):
Is that an alligator or is itlike a dinosaur?
And so I was like looking at it, twisting it all upside down
all that, and the person doingthe dream interpretation she
says the first thing she saidwas did your parents know you
were going to be a boy?
And I said no, not in 1977,they did not.
And but then I remembered alsofor years, for my whole life.
(29:36):
They always said they thought Iwas going to be a boy.
I don't even know what I justsaid if I said that wrong.
Anyways, they always said wethought you were going to be a
boy because you were so activein the womb compared to my older
sister, okay, so they thought Iwas going to be a boy.
So the dream itself was actuallysaying that's how I felt on the
(29:57):
day I was born.
Does that make sense?
Like a boy, I felt like theywere like picking me up, like
the stuffed animal, examining me, like is this really what you
are?
I don't know what you are.
And as I felt into that, sofirst I was like, okay, whatever
, that's kind of weird, right.
But then, as I felt into it, Istarted to recognize yeah, I
(30:17):
probably did feel that way andof course, it was reiterated
through the years, but Idefinitely felt that way.
And that's the key where yourecognize okay, so I'm 46 and
I'm having a dream about mybirth that I haven't addressed
those, those responses, right.
So exactly what you're sayingabout how far you come and how
(30:40):
far your daughter has come,right, they get to skip some of
that because we're we're moreopen to encouraging them to
connect right with spirit.
But everybody has got whateverit their life is.
They've got things that kind ofhold them back and that's their
plate, like it's not a bad or agood thing, it's just a thing
(31:03):
you, you choose what you'regoing to go through before you
even come.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, but like for my daughter, like I would say like
I know she, because she'salways like mom, I'm so grateful
you're my mom all the time.
She says it to me daily,multiple times a day.
Sometimes she's just sograteful because I encourage her
to be herself.
But I watch her and she's likemom.
I'm not psychic like you areand I'm like cause I had a
(31:27):
psychic me when she was oneyears old, like maybe a little
bit before that that she has allmy same gifts and I was a very,
very, very psychic child stilla very, very, very psychic and
so I was like, yeah, you are,but I see it.
The difference I watch isbecause, like when I grew up, it
was all the dark, all the dark,like I thought I was evil
(31:47):
growing up because of what Icould do and like the things
that would move and you know allthe things that would happen.
And she doesn't have those sameexperiences because I've
learned, I've grown, I know howto protect my space, it's.
I feel like once you get to acertain point, it's you have
this energy of that's just nolonger allowed in my space.
It's not a thing that existshere and if something does walk
(32:10):
through, then it's it's on alittle bit higher of a vibration
, because nothing low is allowed.
It's just like an automaticknowing where I'm not trying to
focus on oh, I have to protect.
I got to do all this stuff andyou know like you still do that
before, you do like channelingand stuff.
So it is done, but the focus isdifferent.
So my house is always clear.
(32:31):
I check in to me, like I cantell when she brings someone
home from school, like ifsomeone's like hooked into her
energy, we clear it off.
She knows how to use the toolsto do it.
She knows how to and so,watching her, she's like mom,
I'm not psychic and I will watchher.
She'll read somebody and notknow she's doing it, and then
(32:51):
get so and then they getfrustrated with her because
they're like oh, I didn't saythat and blah, blah, blah and
she's like mom.
They don't like me or mom this,and I'm like that's because
you're reading them, because shetells me all the time I'm not
psychic like you are, I can't doit, I don't see anything.
And I was like because I keepthe space clear, you are
protected.
You're not having to protectyourself constantly and always
(33:14):
be on guard.
You get to just be.
There's a huge difference fromwhat I grew up having to always
be on guard because, okay,what's going to be hovering over
my bed, what's going to behappening versus what she
experiences now to it being justa natural, normal thing.
So it comes through when itneeds to or when she feels like
(33:37):
you know, like whatever it isthat happens.
So it's it's very different andit's more natural for her
versus Well, having started thischanneling, I was really
excited to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But doing this channeling course and
recognizing oh wait, I've beendoing this literally my whole
life, didn't know it, didn'thave the words for it, right?
I kind of I kind of wonder if,like I was just looking up, as
you were talking, the definitionof psychic Okay, so it says
relating to or denotingfaculties or phenomena that are
(34:14):
apparently inexplicable bynatural laws, and then the next
definition is relating to thesoul or mind.
Okay, so, just by ourdefinition, that are apparently
inexplicable.
Right, that just means that thecollective is not and I don't
(34:35):
mean the real collective, I meanthe 3D collective like there's
not this like mainstream sort ofright.
The mainstream doesn'tacknowledge that there's some
other way of getting thisinformation.
Well, so now we're kind ofevolving into as a society,
we're evolving into that spacewhere we're starting to
recognize, yeah, there is a wayto get information that's not
(34:59):
through the five senses yeahright, um, so I think there's a,
there's more acceptance of it,so to say.
I'm not psychic.
I would assume that in achild's mind that translates
more.
And I think I mean I would sayconsistently what I have heard.
You use the word psychic,people immediately, generally
(35:19):
people will honestly get verydefensive because they're there,
they don't understand it orthey get scared right, like, oh,
it's that weird stuff.
And and actually I've hadmultiple times where people say
the word witch, right, there'sbook, I bought a book right,
that says something about beinga witch or whatever.
I don't know that I would haveeven bought that 10 years ago.
(35:41):
But I buy it now and I'm like,oh, that's just a word, like
whatever you want to call it, itdoesn't really matter what it
is.
Of course, if you get into thebook then you recognize, oh,
it's just spiritual practicesconnecting with that, the
energies that you can'tnecessarily see or measure with
the tools that we have.
So what I'm saying is like theword psychic itself has so many
(36:02):
connotations it's very similarto that word protection.
There's so many connotations toit or use the word witch,
whatever you want to call itthat are not really indicative
of what it really is becausepeople don't get it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So there's all that fear associated with those
things that doesn't really haveto be there, whereas if they
really understood, the energy,it wouldn't be quite so fearful,
I agree yeah, I don't think itis scary, but I feel like the
more you get into this, likethis community, there's so many
people mm-hmm like for me, likeI me, going to the store is the
closest I get to normal, Whereaslike it's just not in my
(36:41):
reality.
Like there's so much wherepeople are like oh, spiritual
people are so hard to find.
I'm like really they'reeverywhere I turn Just because
that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, okay, so this the occult thing, right, like so
, psychic goes into the categoryof the occult.
So occult thing, right, like so, psychic goes into the category
of the occult.
So occult just means hiddenknowledge, which of course is
another word that scares people.
But basically it just meanshidden knowledge, right, okay.
So I find that reallyinteresting because I know
exactly what you're talkingabout and I've actually shifted,
probably largely due to mywidowhood, but I've actually
shifted into, if I'm talkingwith one of us, these kinds of
(37:12):
people you can talk freely,right, like, you know, you get
it, it's easy, then you're notgoing to get shunned or, you
know, sent to the insane asylumor anything.
And and then sometimes you knowyou're not, and I just call
them normies.
I mean, that was a phrase thatI heard related to the widow
life, because becoming a widow,your mind just expands in a
(37:34):
different way.
You're going through this trauma.
Sometimes people reallyassociate with it.
It doesn't matter Collectivelyoverall.
If you experience loss ofsomeone really close to you,
whether it's your spouse or not,you kind of get to that place
where you're kind of forced toconnect with spirit and so, and
then you also are dealing withyour humanness.
(37:55):
And so how does that?
What does your humanness causeyou to do?
Because we all do differentthings that sometimes even we
know on a higher level.
We don't really have to do this, but yet we do it.
There's a reason, we have adrive for it, and that's just
part of being human.
So there's an acceptance ofbeing human, but then there's
(38:19):
that distinct difference betweenwhen you're aware of both of
those kind of I don't know whatyou call it basically modes of
being that they're theretogether at the same time,
whereas previous to your trauma,you don't have that awareness.
Yeah, everything is just thisreality.
That's here.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well, yeah, you got to.
I would say, like you got to godown.
You have to in order to go upmore, to learn more, because if
we were always in that samestate, you're never going to
want something better or wantsomething new, you're never
going to experience what youreally are there to experience.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, yep, and that goes back to the thread where
you got.
I don't know if we recordedthat or not, but the thread
words like if your heartcoherence or your frequencies
are going down and you know,having dips and then going up
really high, you have thatdiscrepancy where it's not quite
as strong of a wave pattern andwhen it goes down is when
(39:18):
you're able to connect to.
Yes, you start to recognize thelower frequencies, but then, by
recognizing them, you can alsochoose to focus somewhere else,
which is what your daughter did.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, even in that, it's okay Every time you go down
.
The one thing I learnedrecently, like this last year
has been okay.
I keep hitting these downcycles where I feel like I'm
hitting rock bottom over andover and over.
Every time I hit it it was likeokay, I surrender that because
I don't know what to do.
Obviously that was a path thatI was choosing to go on and this
(39:48):
is where it led me to rockbottom.
It's not working.
So now I need a new path openedup, and that was when I had to
actually like surrender to theuniverse, god, whatever you want
to call it.
That's where I was like okay, I, I put this, I take this off me
and I give it to you nowbecause I don't know.
And every time I would do that,it was like this new path would
open.
And then all of a sudden, I'mshooting back up in a new.
But I learned what I needed tolearn.
(40:08):
So then, when I went back upagain, it was like that next
thing and it kept happeningbecause it needed to play out to
get me to where I needed to be.
And that's how it works withpeople.
It's like if you're not goingto hit the rock bottom.
How are you supposed to get tothe new path, the new life that
you're manifesting?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And then, as we go through it which I think is what
the young people are today arereally learning when they have
parents who say things like youhave said is that when you learn
to recognize this shift,wherever the shift is before you
hit that rock bottom and youmake the adjustment, it's not
that you have to go all the wayto the bottom.
It's learning to recognize thatenergy as it shifts and then,
(40:53):
when you notice it, then makeyour shift so that you can then
go back up Right.
So then it becomes lessdramatic and it becomes more
consistent.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yes, because you have a new layer, like a new minimum
layer, a new minimum level.
So then your rock bottom thatused to be way down there is now
a lot higher.
And then it gets a littlehigher each time.
So it's still hitting that rockbottom, but it's at a new level
.
You no longer are new minimumstandard.
You no longer have thatstandard for what you used to
(41:25):
have.
You yourself have grown, you'reno longer willing to put up
with that.
So you're still going to hitthat rock bottom for the new
version of you.
And then you got to shoot backup.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Which makes that higher point higher, yeah.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Foundation is everything for me, Because if
you don't have a strongfoundation, like you were
talking about, like entityattachments and stuff, if your,
if your vibrations going down,you're more susceptible to those
lower energies.
But if you learn that have thatstrong foundation and you can
bring that up, then you can justgo and everybody else's stuff
(00:46):
just kind of it doesn't stickbecause your energy is strong.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I just had a hypnosis session yesterday with
somebody, and let's see what wasa.
It was this similarconversation where you're you're
getting grounded or centered orwhatever you want to call it,
where you're getting aligned andyou feel confident in yourself,
which is when I teach Reiki.
That's the phrase that I use,because the word protection has
(01:13):
a lot of connotation.
So on some level, to say theword protection, it means that
you have a fear of somethingelse, right?
Protection the actual word isnot the best, in a sense,
defense.
The best defense is to becentered and grounded and know
who you are right.
So that's what I say with Reikiis like you know, you're
(01:34):
remembering who you are,therefore you get stronger, and
that is your protection.
It's not necessarily thatyou're setting up a barrier or
not.
That's okay, you can set up abarrier too, but by doing that,
you're acknowledging thatthere's a reason to have a
barrier, right.
So you're giving.
In a sense, you're kind ofgiving your authority over and
saying I'm not sovereign You'vesaid this before I'm not
sovereign over my own being.
(01:55):
So therefore I'm going to usethis protection.
So I think it's a real misnomerNow something that's coming in
and I don't really know why.
Maybe we'll figure it out.
I saw this post.
There's this amazing woman whoI've tried to get her to come on
my podcast.
She's just busy living life andI never actually met her.
I knew her through a friend ofmine and my friend said you've
(02:16):
got to connect with this person.
So I did on social media butlike she lives in Arizona, I've
never met her.
But her husband is an artistand she makes these posts and
they're just, she's just likealways on the path of this stuff
.
So she made this post and itwas a picture of a mantis and it
looked like the mantis was on,like this teal green, I don't
know, maybe a like a wickerchair or something, and it's,
(02:37):
you know, it's a really smallmantis, you can see, and she
says she loves havingconversations with her daughter
because this mantis came up andthey said that she is, or the
mantis is the color of hercelery.
So they named the mantis celery.
So they have this conversation.
(02:58):
The mantis is all walkingaround while they're and doing
different things while they'rehaving this conversation and
doing different things whilethey're having this conversation
.
And I thought to myself so I'veheard this several times over,
especially with people who are,who experienced this psychic
awareness, and they're withpeople who don't know that or
that is scarce them, especiallyas a child I think you
experienced that too wherethey're psychically aware and
(03:21):
then as a child, because theydon't know any better, they say
something and then they getwhatever shunned right.
So then they spend the rest oftheir lives kind of overcoming
that, whereas and I think a lotof the people who are in this
they come to realize that maybethey've had past lives where
they shared something like thisand essentially they were
murdered and probably murderedin a really terrible way.
(03:42):
So you've got that ancestralstuff.
Essentially they were murderedand probably murdered in a
really terrible way.
So you've got that ancestralstuff.
But I always thought that about.
So I was told that I was.
I was a crystal healer in a pastlife.
I've had dreams about them, youknow.
I've been told in thoseuncertain terms I used crystals.
Do I know how to use crystals?
I certainly haven't ever takena class in them.
However, ever since a child, Iwas one of those kids where my
(04:02):
mom would, we would go on avacation or something and there
would be like that container ofrocks that were polished and I
go over to the container and ofcourse that made her happy.
I know as an adult now, it madeher happy because that stuff
was cheap, you know cause, like,oh, it'd be pretty rocks.
And I remember thinking, inconversations with people where
they're they're afraid to sharethat, that, um, people where
(04:27):
they're they're afraid to sharethat, that um, I always say,
well, like you know, it's justreally easy to distract them.
You just say, oh, I like thepretty rocks, like it can be
really super shallow and be like.
You know, you can't argue withthat.
You know what I mean.
Like, do you really want toshun somebody because they like
something that's beautiful?
Or you know what I'm saying.
And it's like, uh, the.
I've heard phrases where peoplewere talking about, they shared
something, about their theirknowledge of the elemental, so
(04:50):
fairies or any of that stuff,right.
And then they get, they getshunned and they get shut down,
whereas I'm like, why would youshut any kid down about
believing in fairies or seeingme?
Who wouldn't want to be there?
Who wouldn't want to see that?
Right, I don't know.
To me it's a little.
That's a little.
There's some sort of disconnect.
If you've got a child who saysthat stuff?
(05:11):
Why would you not want toencourage whatever fantastical
world, whether it's imaginary ornot, who cares, it's fun.
Why would they not want to bethere?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
see, I think, like these, they say that once they a
kid hits seven, that that'skind of what it all goes away.
But honestly, it's, why wouldyou?
I agree with you because, like,I have a seven-year-old and I
see fairies all the time, like,and she's always asking me mom,
is our mermaids real?
Mom, is this real?
Is this real?
Is this real?
(05:41):
And I'm like, yeah, even ifit's not in our dimension, it
still exists, like it came fromsomewhere.
And so I feel like there's likethat mainstream where it's like
, oh, we'll be judged, buthonestly, more and more people
are opening up to it, like I'vehad people message me and be
like, like, even family membersare.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like our fairy is real so they're looking for,
yeah, real, because it's funwell then, fairies are annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Let me tell you fairies in your house.
I'm telling you they will moveyour stuff, they will hide it,
they will play with it and buteven like my kid like, she's
always like mom.
I know I was like mermaid in mypast life and she's like I'm
gonna be a mermaid in my nextlife.
She's like I just know and I'mlike, yeah, you are probably
right.
And then I had, at the sametime she's telling you this, I
actually had somebody elsecompletely different.
(06:27):
Be like are mermaids realmermaid land?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
today, yeah, yeah, well, there's a place in um
Florida called wikiwachi springs.
It's like source centralsomething or other.
I think it's central western.
But um, when I was growing up,so I was born in 77.
So that's how old I am, so itmust've been like the eighties,
okay, and my father took methere and I just thought it was
(06:53):
the coolest thing.
And I think everybody who goesthere I've seen they have a
documentary somewhere, um prettymuch anybody who's into it they
just adore it.
They just like just I don'tknow why you would take anything
like that away from people.
Um, it's kind of like you knowyou like to watch this kind of
movie.
Why would you tell them it's abad movie?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
because people want you to be down on their level
yes they can bring you down.
And parents I'm, and I am aparent parents are the worst and
I know this might be a littlecontroversial, but but like I
don't agree with the way that Iwas raised, right, my parents.
I have the understanding thatmy parents did the best that
they could with the tools thatthey had.
(07:34):
They were quite young, and sonow I look at raising my
daughter as I didn't like theway that they like I look at
them, I can analyze from thatoutside perspective, without all
the emotions, and go, okay, Ilook at them, I can analyze from
that outside perspective,without all the emotions, and go
, okay.
This part I do not agree with.
Here's where we're going tochange it so like for me,
parenting it's very differentand where my daughter and I
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actually have a relationship.
We actually talk, wecommunicate, we like she shares
stuff with me, like she's veryopen, because I've created that
space and that safety where mostparents it's like you need to
listen, do as I say, don't talkout of line like blah, blah,
blah, blah blah.
(08:15):
That's why they always rebel,right yeah, and, and I've been
even the way I raised my kid.
I'm like her.
Sometimes she'll have issueswith her friend.
Hold on, my throat went dry.
Even though she'll have issueswith her friends, I have to
explain to her.
I said, look, if you can lookat them as no attend or bad
attention is better than noattention, and then have that
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understanding and this is aseven-year-old kid that I'm
talking to, like she absorbs theknowledge.
And she and I was like, if youcan understand that, if bad
attention is better than noattention when these kids are
acting out, that should tell youright then and there that they
are not being seen, they are notbeing heard, they're not
getting attention at home andthey are being suppressed.
But what people want is just tosuppress their kids.
(09:00):
They want to have kids and thenthey want them to shut up.
Why?
But if you can act like, theway I approach my parenting is
she asks these questions likeare mermaids real?
Yes, but in this dimension,here's how it works.
She's even asked me mom, how dopast lives work?
Like, because I always talkabout it and so I'm.
I explain that.
So instead of like, I just talkto her like a person where I
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don't think most people think todo that, because this is just
another human, another soul.
It's not like you know.
It's like people don't viewtheir children as that.
So they don't.
They want to suppress becauseof their miserable they can.
The easiest people to suppressand bring down to their level,
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even if it takes years to do it,are their own kids.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah and okay.
So what I'm learning and I'dlove to hear your input on this
is that you know, as infants, asbabies, we come into this world
.
First off, we're alreadyconnected to the mother, meaning
we know her.
We don't know words for them,but we understand her emotions,
right, because they producechemicals, and it doesn't matter
, you're just connected as ababy, you just are aware of that
(10:07):
.
Then you get born and then youget exposed to your parents, who
are usually either male andfemale, or they have a masculine
and feminine energy, and so, asan infant, we're experts at
realizing or recognizing andunderstanding energies.
That does not mean that we cantalk about them Of course a baby
(10:28):
can't talk, right.
It doesn't mean that we canknow what to do with them.
We don't even know what to dowith our own bodies, right.
So all of this stuff is kind ofhappening at once, and what I'm
learning, especially throughthe dream interpretation, is
just how smart babies are interms of reading energy, and so
we take the masculine andfeminine energies that are
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presented to us, usually fromour parents, and we extrapolate
our understanding and ourconclusions of those energies
and we put them out on everybodyelse.
So usually, if a mother islet's say that they're what
you're talking about which isyou do it my way or you don't do
it at all, right, like you'rethis control thing, then you
usually you start, you associatethat essentially that's a
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masculine energy coming fromsomebody who's supposed to
represent the feminine energy.
And so you kind of extrapolatethat and you say, you say in
your head, oh, this is how thefemale energy works, which, what
we're describing, there is amasculine energy, so the female
energy works with the masculineenergy, which is not true.
So it's a misalignment withwhat it is.
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And then we wind up projectingthat everywhere else.
And, um, what I want to share,the way that it has come up for
me.
So I'm cutting, currentlycutting the ties with my mother,
so that's supposed to be thefeminine representation, right,
but my mother also was like thatand it came through my dreams
and the person analyzing it saidyou know, you're seeing the
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feminine energy, kind of likewhat we were just talking about,
like the coming through is themasculine in a masculine way,
but really it should be morefeminine, open, relaxed, kind of
like you're talking aboutparenting your daughter.
So I'm, I'm in the process ofrecognizing that and um, well,
(12:15):
what do you do with that?
Well, what does that mean, shesaid.
She said, uh, was your motheressentially masculine in this
way?
And I said, yes, did she run atight ship?
Basically, it was like did.
Was there order presented byyour mother?
Yes, there was order presentedby my mother.
And she said, okay, well, this,this dream, is saying you need
to work on that, because that'sessentially not the feminine
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energy.
And I said, well, what otherway is there?
Like there's, there's a friendthat I have in the group too,
and she's a twin.
And she said you know, that'sreally hard to usually process
that kind of stuff.
Somebody asked me what's itlike to be a twin?
And she says what's it like tonot be a twin Like you?
just don't know, you know youdon't know another way.
So it's like um, opening up toa different way.
(13:05):
So I think I kind of think likethose energies where I think
what happens is, if we haveparent and I think that's why
people who are they go this path, usually had difficult
relationships or they havedifficult home lives or whatever
they have, things that aredifficult it's to get you back
in tune with your higher self.
Right, you're who you reallyare and when?
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Because when what somebodypresents to you is not what the
higher self says that the worldis, then you start to recognize
okay, that doesn't resonate withme.
So then it feels bad and thenyou go seeking right, like you
just know that there's anotheranswer, instinctively.
So, yeah, it's kind of weird.
(13:48):
And she even said something thatthe effect of you know running
a tight ship.
She said it was exactly whatyou're talking about, which is
if there's a feminine energywho's acting too masculine or
the masculine energy is toostrong, it'll be things like
kids always sit in the back seat.
Kids, you know, are told to bequiet, that kind of thing.
And I giggled because even withmy husband just a few years ago
(14:10):
, as we first started gettingtogether and he has a daughter,
so we'd have kids right in thecar, and so forth.
I was like, well, you know,generally speaking, I always
grew up with the adults sat inthe front seat.
It didn't matter who you were,adults always sat in the front
seat, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, was that not how it was with her?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
When you, I don't remember, I think.
I think I don't know.
For me I guess that was.
Well, that was challenging mybelief system, right?
What I understood it to be isthat the adults sit in the front
seat, but the adults sitting inthe front seat and not taking
into account if a kid has an andit has input, maybe they have a
reason for sitting in the frontseat or whatever.
And so I think she wanted tosit in the front seat or
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something, and I didn't.
Whatever I thought was like.
Well, this, this isn't really alegitimate reason, and adults
always sit in the front seat.
Why?
Why would the kids even thinkthat they sit in front seat?
You know, that's me in the, theclothing.
In a sense, that was meadhering to that belief system
that I had created through mymother.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of belief systems like that,
though, and, honestly, likethat is one that I do agree with
to a degree, where it's likeokay, like if, maybe if they're
getting car sick or somethinglike that, like they need to.
But, in my opinion, like, yeah,kids, like kids in the front
seat, like if you're going on atrip, generally, yeah, adults
want to sit together and sit.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, right, there's some, there's some logic.
I think it's where it getsblurry.
It's like there is some logicto that, Like there is some
logic to that.
And even I don't know when it'sbeen several years, but at some
point they, they started torecognize the accidents that
people were getting into.
If the person in the passengerseat weighed less than a hundred
pounds, they would get muchmore injured, Right, so you
don't want to put a kid in thefront seat if they're less than
a hundred pounds, you know, Imean, that's just like a logical
(15:52):
thing.
That's not like you sit here,you sit there, but it was more
of a.
It was more about the, the ideaof the, of the the child is
kind of put in their place in asense, and that you have this
role and you don't.
You're not this flourishingyoung human who you know has
enlightenment or anything likethat.
But yeah, that's.
(16:14):
I think it's definitely anantiquated way of approaching
parenting, but you know,everybody has.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Most people wouldn't agree, probably, with the way
that I parent or wouldn'tunderstand it because, like, my
daughter and I have a very, verygood relationship.
We do communicate a lot and shedoes know her role, but I also.
She is okay to call me out yeah, she is the first person to
call me out.
Or if, like, we're having adiscussion about something and
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she's saying, mom, you'reconfusing me, like I don't
understand.
Like last night we were talkingabout, um, not taking on other
people's stuff, little girlsthat were, uh, next door to us.
One of them wrote on the, onthe, on the cement, in chalk,
which which she cause she left alittle bit of her chalk outside
that I hate you, nyla.
(17:04):
And I was like I got the momoutside and I'm like, look, this
is escalating now.
And so, from the physical pointthat I looked at it, I was like
, okay, I'm done, this is youguys.
Like your kids are like, andthey were friends, I'm like, um,
she's excluded from this group.
This is what's going on.
Like I laid it out into thismother, I was so fed up in a
nice way, but I'm like, this iswhat your children are doing and
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I don't think that anythinghappened from it.
I don't think she cared,because she is.
I don't think they're veryconnected, right like that.
There's that, there's a bigdisconnect there.
That's why negative attentionis better than no attention.
So then I had to step back andgo.
Okay, like I'm coming from the,I want to protect my kid, like
my mama bear is coming out, likeI'm going to go psycho and I.
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But I had to step back and go.
Okay, now, like what are youcreating here?
This is where I had to bringthe spiritual aspect.
They said I was like what areyou wanting?
Because at this very moment,the both of us, we both have to
take responsibility, because I'mtrying to protect you and I'm
getting my backup and I'mfeeding my energy into this
because I don't know what to do.
And you're creating thisbecause you're so focused on the
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fact that they hate you andit's being thrown in your face
so hard.
But I said to her I was like youhave two paths.
I said now we need to choose.
I said do you want to keepgoing down this path where
you've already, like she, thiskid has removed so many things
already, where she reallystruggled with, like since we've
been here and has come so far.
And so it was like I could justsee it was these two pathways
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being presented.
And I was like, okay, so youhave a choice.
You can either keep going downthis path and keep having all
this hatred.
And I said, well, how do youfeel about yourself?
Like, what do you think ofyourself?
How do you view you?
Because this is a projection ofyou.
Everything that's inside of youis a projection and is outside.
So look at this.
You need to, like, sit back andactually think.
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And then I said, okay, now lookat this other path, where now
you have all these other friendsthat are starting to and where
that really like playing withyou and you're having a great
time, you're enjoying yourself,things are working out for you.
You know like you're expandinga lot, you've really grown.
So I said now you get to choose.
Which way do you want to go?
And she's like well, this oneone, I like this one that's with
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all my new friends andeverything's going so good.
And I'm like okay, then we bothneed to stop feeding our energy
into this, because together,especially lately, we are
creating this.
And I said the universe did youthe biggest favor right now,
because they just wrote that onthe sidewalk.
You just got shown that this isreally not the place you want
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it's time to end.
And so she was like okay.
And then we were talking lastnight and she's like mom.
And I was like you cannot takeresponsibility for them writing
that on the sidewalk.
And she's like mom, you justtold me that I'm creating this
and now you're telling me it'snot me, I can't.
It is confusing.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, I was like but there'stwo ways of looking at it.
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You have to.
You're the creator, said if youcan create all that hatred
towards you, think of all thelove you can create.
Where do you want?
What do you want to create?
And that's what I said.
Like there's the difference.
There does not mean that youare responsible for their
actions.
You do not take that on, and soit's a little confusing, but it
is confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But adults go through the same thing, right, like
it's no different.
And you're right, it is.
It really is genuinely a giftand, of course, I think I
personally think it's really ablessing that she has you to
actually say that when she'syoung, so that she knows when
she's older, you know that'sthis becomes an automatic thing.
But I kind of find itinteresting, because it really
is the human predicament, likeas a whole.
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We don't understand how can weokay, we're creating this, but
now I want to not create that.
And there's a differencebetween focusing on the not
creating of it, which is stillfocusing on it, right, or
shifting my energy in a waywhere it actually I'm really
focused on doing something thathappens to be different, but
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really what it's doing isdistracting my attention from
that thing that I don't want tocreate.
So it's funny because my sonjust graduated this weekend and
this past weekend and they hadpractice for graduation on
Thursday and that was like theirlast day of school was
Wednesday, so Thursday theypracticed, so he had stuff to do
for school, then Friday he wasoff, he didn't have to do
anything.
Graduation was Saturday, so hemade plans with a friend of his
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to go hiking.
So they drive up to the top ofthe mountain and they go on a
hike and this is actually apretty well-traveled like it's
very popular around here pathand because it's up higher in
elevation, you know you're goingto have a little more snow up
there still snow on the top ofthe mountains and his friend was
walking in front of him, wasn'tany particularly far distance
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or close distance or anythinglike that.
She was just walking in frontof him and she slipped on ice
and she had her water bottle ormetal water bottle in her hand
and she threw her arm up tobalance herself.
She didn't even fall, but shethrew her arm up and he just
happened to be right there.
It hit his tooth, broke histooth.
Okay, now, what I findinteresting about this is that
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he broke his tooth.
Also, playing another game wasplaying like they call them
airsoft, like BB, little plasticBBs.
They shoot the boys, get allinto this, whatever that is, and
um, but he had orchestratedthis whole thing.
You were like 20 people at thisthing and he loves doing it, so
it was like a big deal, like hehad really planned this thing
out and they go through thewhole.
Maybe it wasn't 20 people thattime, but it was some people and
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they go through this wholething and at the very end one of
them shoots at him while he'ssmiling he just got his braces
off, okay, hits his tooth, brokehis other tooth because this
was before.
This is almost a year before.
This is literally like lessthan a week before school starts
and when school starts it's hissenior year.
When school starts the firstday of school, they have school
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pictures, which doesn't reallymatter because they weren't
actually using that picture, butregardless he would have a
busted out tooth in the picture,right, well, we were able to
get that part at least patchedfor the picture.
But here we are again doing thesame thing, literally less than
24 hours before he graduates,he gets his other tooth broken.
And I find what I find really,really interesting about it is
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like you were saying that yourdaughter is getting shown like
calling to her these people whoare not nice to her and saying
mean things to her and so forth,and it turns into this
manifestation of it being on thestreet, written in letters that
says I hate you, right, reallyhorrible, but that's factual.
Boom, you can't say that it'snot there.
It's like you have this eventhappen.
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Now you've got to have twochipped teeth, two chipped front
teeth.
I thought him, like you reallygot to work on this because you
don't have that many teeth, youknow you don't want to like, and
they weren't like breaking offin a piece where you could put
it back on.
It was like he said, both timesthey were really shattered.
But what he really alsorecognized on his own was, you
know, it could have beenanything that was different,
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like my face could have beenturned, I could have been a step
farther back, you know, likeanything.
But it was just perfect,luckily, just to get that one
tooth.
Matter of fact, he had thecolor from her water bottle
stuck on his tooth for a while.
But, but it's like we have togo to these extremes so that
when we start to recognize, oh,there is a pattern here, oh,
(24:19):
there is something that I needto shift that energy, we have to
go and say what is it I'mcreating that's causing this to
happen?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's different for adults,like, think about adults who are
in toxic relationships or they,you know, whatever it is that
they're manifesting in theirlife, they're manifesting it to
an extreme to pull them closerto themselves.
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So they recognize, then, thatthey have the power to change
things.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I always tell my kid, cause my aunt always says this
to me, cause my aunt's in herfifties.
And so she always says and I'm,I'm in my twenties.
So she's always like think ofhow far you've come.
Where you are right now, you'reonly 20.
I'm going to be 29 next month.
Holy shit, sorry, it's going tobe 20, 29 next month.
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And I'm like, and she's alwayslike look, think about how far
you've come, and you're only 28.
She's in her fifties and she'slike it's taken me this long to
get to this point.
And then I look at it and she'salways says your children will
learn faster than you will.
New generations that are beingborn like.
They're very intuitive.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And they have parents who are saying listen to your
intuition, right?
Instead of shut up and be quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
But I would say like, so I even tell my daughter I'm
always like you're only sevenyears old and you're already at
the stage where it's I'm 28years old and I said I'm now
getting that, that cognate,whatever it's called.
Like that, that realizationthat oh, hey, I'm creating this,
hey, this is the universegiving me this sign.
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Like this is like, yes, it'sbeen the last few years, but
it's it's escalated so muchwhere I can pinpoint it really
quickly and catch myself whereshe's seven years old and I'm
right there to help her catch it.
So then by the time she's myage, think of the level that
she's gonna be on and so muchfurther ahead you know, teaching
.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I think I instinctively knew that.
So I taught public school forlike nine plus years and I
remember thinking that samething.
So I was not of so, so I wasn'tso much older than them that I
completely disconnected.
Like you know, generationallypeople usually have a hard time
with their parents, butdefinitely their parents.
Generation is what I mean, butalso, even farther sometimes, is
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the grandparents' generation.
Like they just don't connect atall.
The kids don't get like.
Even my husband and I, we dostruggle some with the way the
kids actually schedule things,because when we were young you
had to schedule things inadvance, like the person
organizing it had all thedetails.
It was written on a piece ofpaper.
You handed it to your parent.
You also knew all theinformation.
The kids now they're like oh, Ihave this thing I have to go to
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.
What time is it?
I think it's about this timeand when are you going to do it?
When it's going to be over?
Oh, I don't know.
You know, like they're justtotally cool with that.
There's all factors into that.
Anyways, there's thatdisconnect between the
generations and when I was ateacher I didn't have all that
disconnect in the sense that Iunderstood where the kids were
coming from and I did see themas little humans, which makes it
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fun, so I didn't have thatrelationship with them.
That was that sit in your chairand be quiet kind of thing.
But it's, it's crazy how justthat little bit of leeway, a
little bit of understandingopens the door, because I didn't
have I didn't have a whole lotof behavioral problems.
I mean I can't say I neverwrote a referral, but I didn't
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write more than 10 referrals in10 years.
Okay, and there's some peoplewho write referrals like every
day, right, and a referral isbasically you get sent to the
principal's office and you havea consequence.
But yeah, there's that, thatleeway, that transition between
where are you and and how areyou going to shift into this new
(28:05):
frequency.
Another thing I wanted to add is, uh, I wanted to share.
You talked about how far youhave come in this time period
and how far your daughter isalready.
I mean, I think probablyparents of children now also
feel the same.
I just want to share with thelisteners.
There really needs to be andI'll honestly I think it would
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be better to have no judgment ofwhere you are personally.
Of course it helps also not tohave judgment of other people,
but we're mostly concerned withourselves.
And I say that.
And so I want to sharesomething that came up that I
was like holy crap, I can'tbelieve this.
So in the dream interpretationthe first one I got analyzed, or
not.
The first one this was this wasa little while into it, but I
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had a dream about a celebrationwhich is supposed to be a birth
birth dream, and so I'm late tothe celebration.
That's not good in your dream.
And people were opening.
There were kids and an adult Ithink it was a husband.
The kids were opening presents.
Then we decided to put thepresents away.
So we go into this room to putthe presents away and I have in
my hand a toy.
That's something that theyopened.
And I was like what is thisthing?
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Is that an alligator or is itlike a dinosaur?
And so I was like looking at it, twisting it all upside down
all that, and the person doingthe dream interpretation she
says the first thing she saidwas did your parents know you
were going to be a boy?
And I said no, not in 1977,they did not.
And but then I remembered alsofor years, for my whole life.
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They always said they thought Iwas going to be a boy.
I don't even know what I justsaid if I said that wrong.
Anyways, they always said wethought you were going to be a
boy because you were so activein the womb compared to my older
sister, okay, so they thought Iwas going to be a boy.
So the dream itself was actuallysaying that's how I felt on the
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day I was born.
Does that make sense?
Like a boy, I felt like theywere like picking me up, like
the stuffed animal, examining me, like is this really what you
are?
I don't know what you are.
And as I felt into that, sofirst I was like, okay, whatever
, that's kind of weird, right.
But then, as I felt into it, Istarted to recognize yeah, I
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probably did feel that way andof course, it was reiterated
through the years, but Idefinitely felt that way.
And that's the key where yourecognize okay, so I'm 46 and
I'm having a dream about mybirth that I haven't addressed
those, those responses, right.
So exactly what you're sayingabout how far you come and how
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far your daughter has come,right, they get to skip some of
that because we're we're moreopen to encouraging them to
connect right with spirit.
But everybody has got whateverit their life is.
They've got things that kind ofhold them back and that's their
plate, like it's not a bad or agood thing, it's just a thing
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you, you choose what you'regoing to go through before you
even come.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, but like for my daughter, like I would say like
I know she, because she'salways like mom, I'm so grateful
you're my mom all the time.
She says it to me daily,multiple times a day.
Sometimes she's just sograteful because I encourage her
to be herself.
But I watch her and she's likemom.
I'm not psychic like you areand I'm like cause I had a
(31:27):
psychic me when she was oneyears old, like maybe a little
bit before that that she has allmy same gifts and I was a very,
very, very psychic child stilla very, very, very psychic and
so I was like, yeah, you are,but I see it.
The difference I watch isbecause, like when I grew up, it
was all the dark, all the dark,like I thought I was evil
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growing up because of what Icould do and like the things
that would move and you know allthe things that would happen.
And she doesn't have those sameexperiences because I've
learned, I've grown, I know howto protect my space, it's.
I feel like once you get to acertain point, it's you have
this energy of that's just nolonger allowed in my space.
It's not a thing that existshere and if something does walk
(32:10):
through, then it's it's on alittle bit higher of a vibration
, because nothing low is allowed.
It's just like an automaticknowing where I'm not trying to
focus on oh, I have to protect.
I got to do all this stuff andyou know like you still do that
before, you do like channelingand stuff.
So it is done, but the focus isdifferent.
So my house is always clear.
(32:31):
I check in to me, like I cantell when she brings someone
home from school, like ifsomeone's like hooked into her
energy, we clear it off.
She knows how to use the toolsto do it.
She knows how to and so,watching her, she's like mom,
I'm not psychic and I will watchher.
She'll read somebody and notknow she's doing it, and then
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get so and then they getfrustrated with her because
they're like oh, I didn't saythat and blah, blah, blah and
she's like mom.
They don't like me or mom this,and I'm like that's because
you're reading them, because shetells me all the time I'm not
psychic like you are, I can't doit, I don't see anything.
And I was like because I keepthe space clear, you are
protected.
You're not having to protectyourself constantly and always
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be on guard.
You get to just be.
There's a huge difference fromwhat I grew up having to always
be on guard because, okay,what's going to be hovering over
my bed, what's going to behappening versus what she
experiences now to it being justa natural, normal thing.
So it comes through when itneeds to or when she feels like
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you know, like whatever it isthat happens.
So it's it's very different andit's more natural for her
versus Well, having started thischanneling, I was really
excited to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But doing this channeling course and
recognizing oh wait, I've beendoing this literally my whole
life, didn't know it, didn'thave the words for it, right?
I kind of I kind of wonder if,like I was just looking up, as
you were talking, the definitionof psychic Okay, so it says
relating to or denotingfaculties or phenomena that are
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apparently inexplicable bynatural laws, and then the next
definition is relating to thesoul or mind.
Okay, so, just by ourdefinition, that are apparently
inexplicable.
Right, that just means that thecollective is not and I don't
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mean the real collective, I meanthe 3D collective like there's
not this like mainstream sort ofright.
The mainstream doesn'tacknowledge that there's some
other way of getting thisinformation.
Well, so now we're kind ofevolving into as a society,
we're evolving into that spacewhere we're starting to
recognize, yeah, there is a wayto get information that's not
(34:59):
through the five senses yeahright, um, so I think there's a,
there's more acceptance of it,so to say.
I'm not psychic.
I would assume that in achild's mind that translates
more.
And I think I mean I would sayconsistently what I have heard.
You use the word psychic,people immediately, generally
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people will honestly get verydefensive because they're there,
they don't understand it orthey get scared right, like, oh,
it's that weird stuff.
And and actually I've hadmultiple times where people say
the word witch, right, there'sbook, I bought a book right,
that says something about beinga witch or whatever.
I don't know that I would haveeven bought that 10 years ago.
(35:41):
But I buy it now and I'm like,oh, that's just a word, like
whatever you want to call it, itdoesn't really matter what it
is.
Of course, if you get into thebook then you recognize, oh,
it's just spiritual practicesconnecting with that, the
energies that you can'tnecessarily see or measure with
the tools that we have.
So what I'm saying is like theword psychic itself has so many
(36:02):
connotations it's very similarto that word protection.
There's so many connotations toit or use the word witch,
whatever you want to call itthat are not really indicative
of what it really is becausepeople don't get it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So there's all that fear associated with those
things that doesn't really haveto be there, whereas if they
really understood, the energy,it wouldn't be quite so fearful,
I agree yeah, I don't think itis scary, but I feel like the
more you get into this, likethis community, there's so many
people mm-hmm like for me, likeI me, going to the store is the
closest I get to normal, Whereaslike it's just not in my
(36:41):
reality.
Like there's so much wherepeople are like oh, spiritual
people are so hard to find.
I'm like really they'reeverywhere I turn Just because
that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, okay, so this the occult thing, right, like so
, psychic goes into the categoryof the occult.
So occult thing, right, like so, psychic goes into the category
of the occult.
So occult just means hiddenknowledge, which of course is
another word that scares people.
But basically it just meanshidden knowledge, right, okay.
So I find that reallyinteresting because I know
exactly what you're talkingabout and I've actually shifted,
probably largely due to mywidowhood, but I've actually
shifted into, if I'm talkingwith one of us, these kinds of
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people you can talk freely,right, like, you know, you get
it, it's easy, then you're notgoing to get shunned or, you
know, sent to the insane asylumor anything.
And and then sometimes you knowyou're not, and I just call
them normies.
I mean, that was a phrase thatI heard related to the widow
life, because becoming a widow,your mind just expands in a
(37:34):
different way.
You're going through this trauma.
Sometimes people reallyassociate with it.
It doesn't matter Collectivelyoverall.
If you experience loss ofsomeone really close to you,
whether it's your spouse or not,you kind of get to that place
where you're kind of forced toconnect with spirit and so, and
then you also are dealing withyour humanness.
(37:55):
And so how does that?
What does your humanness causeyou to do?
Because we all do differentthings that sometimes even we
know on a higher level.
We don't really have to do this, but yet we do it.
There's a reason, we have adrive for it, and that's just
part of being human.
So there's an acceptance ofbeing human, but then there's
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that distinct difference betweenwhen you're aware of both of
those kind of I don't know whatyou call it basically modes of
being that they're theretogether at the same time,
whereas previous to your trauma,you don't have that awareness.
Yeah, everything is just thisreality.
That's here.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well, yeah, you got to.
I would say, like you got to godown.
You have to in order to go upmore, to learn more, because if
we were always in that samestate, you're never going to
want something better or wantsomething new, you're never
going to experience what youreally are there to experience.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, yep, and that goes back to the thread where
you got.
I don't know if we recordedthat or not, but the thread
words like if your heartcoherence or your frequencies
are going down and you know,having dips and then going up
really high, you have thatdiscrepancy where it's not quite
as strong of a wave pattern andwhen it goes down is when
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you're able to connect to.
Yes, you start to recognize thelower frequencies, but then, by
recognizing them, you can alsochoose to focus somewhere else,
which is what your daughter did.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, even in that, it's okay Every time you go down
.
The one thing I learnedrecently, like this last year
has been okay.
I keep hitting these downcycles where I feel like I'm
hitting rock bottom over andover and over.
Every time I hit it it was likeokay, I surrender that because
I don't know what to do.
Obviously that was a path thatI was choosing to go on and this
(39:48):
is where it led me to rockbottom.
It's not working.
So now I need a new path openedup, and that was when I had to
actually like surrender to theuniverse, god, whatever you want
to call it.
That's where I was like okay, I, I put this, I take this off me
and I give it to you nowbecause I don't know.
And every time I would do that,it was like this new path would
open.
And then all of a sudden, I'mshooting back up in a new.
But I learned what I needed tolearn.
(40:08):
So then, when I went back upagain, it was like that next
thing and it kept happeningbecause it needed to play out to
get me to where I needed to be.
And that's how it works withpeople.
It's like if you're not goingto hit the rock bottom.
How are you supposed to get tothe new path, the new life that
you're manifesting?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And then, as we go through it which I think is what
the young people are today arereally learning when they have
parents who say things like youhave said is that when you learn
to recognize this shift,wherever the shift is before you
hit that rock bottom and youmake the adjustment, it's not
that you have to go all the wayto the bottom.
It's learning to recognize thatenergy as it shifts and then,
(40:53):
when you notice it, then makeyour shift so that you can then
go back up Right.
So then it becomes lessdramatic and it becomes more
consistent.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yes, because you have a new layer, like a new minimum
layer, a new minimum level.
So then your rock bottom thatused to be way down there is now
a lot higher.
And then it gets a littlehigher each time.
So it's still hitting that rockbottom, but it's at a new level
.
You no longer are new minimumstandard.
You no longer have thatstandard for what you used to
(41:25):
have.
You yourself have grown, you'reno longer willing to put up
with that.
So you're still going to hitthat rock bottom for the new
version of you.
And then you got to shoot backup.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Which makes that higher point higher, yeah.
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