Nat Flood - Shamana Wisdom in Bermuda - Native Yoga Toddcast

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Todd McLaughlin (00:33):
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Well, welcome to Native YogaToddcast. I'm so excited to have
you here and also to introduceyou to Nat Flood. Nat is a yoga
and pilates and much more thanjust that teacher that owns a
studio in Bermuda on the islandof Bermuda out in the Atlantic.

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She has a studio called ShamanaCircle studio, and you can find
her on her website,shamanacirclestudio.com, also on
Instagram at @shamanacircle, andalso on her personal page on
Instagram at @natofshamana.
Also, I do a free live webinaron YouTube every Thursday at

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12pm Eastern. If you join inlive, you can ask questions of
which case I'm happy to answerduring, and it's recorded. So
you can always check it outafterwards as well. Check in the
links below for all thosedetails. Again, remember to look
for Nat atShamanacirclestudio.com. All
right, let's get started. I'mdelighted to have the

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opportunity to converse with NatFlood. Nat, How are you doing
today?

Nat Flood (02:16):
I'm great. I'm so happy to be here and chat to
you.

Thank you. This has been several months in the
making because you are a newmom, or a recently, again new
mom. And I know that when Ireached out to you and said I
can do this, but I just need alittle bit of time. And so thank
you so much for carving outtime. I do know how busy we are

(02:41):
as parents how hard it is to doa little bit of time for
ourselves. Can you tell me alittle bit what it's like being
a new mom again?

Nat Flood (02:50):
Yeah, no, my pleasure. I'm so happy to chat.
Yeah, it's, it's amazing overand over and over again. I feel
like we learned so much aboutourselves over again. You know,
we have maybe as a second timemom, for me, like an expectation
of how things are gonna go. Andand of course, none of it went
the way that I expected. So it'sjust it's nice to be put in that

(03:12):
position with new variables. Ilove having stuff just thrown at
me and dealing with new things.
So it's been great.

What is an example of something that you
tried to premeditate that didnot go according to your plan?

Nat Flood (03:26):
Yeah. So I mean, luckily for me, the second birth
was so much more fluid and onthe level that I wanted. I was
successful, this time in my homewaterbirth, which I'm just so
grateful for, took a lot ofpreparation. It's just not a
done thing here in Bermuda. Notnot to say that you can't do it,

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but it's it's not regulated, andit's not legislated. So it's a
personal risk that we take on todo it here rather than birthing
at the hospital, which is likethe major option. But I was an a
long extended breastfeeding withmy first son. So we made it to
about 1516 months breastfeeding.
And so I was really lookingforward to the breastfeeding

(04:09):
journey with my second and itwas discovered, I kind of knew
that there was a problem. He waskind of living off my lap down.
I knew that it wasn't right. Andthen we discovered a massive
tongue tie issue for him decidedto go ahead with revision and
even with revision, he was soguarded and he would not let the
dentist in there to do it. So itwasn't successful. And I ended

(04:33):
up pumping exclusively andbottle feeding him. And I mean
he's only nine months so luckilyI have a great supply so I was
able to pump in store for sixmonths, and he's still living
off my supply. So hopefully I'llget into a year with my with my
breast milk supply. So for methat was just such a new way of
thinking or like seeingmotherhood you know, you

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especially as a business owner,it's it was so time consuming,
so body consuming.

Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine. I mean,
obviously, I can't imagine beinga male, but at the same time
being a dad and it goes into it.
Yeah. Oh my gosh, right. Like Iremember just even if we were
attempting to get a night off inthe process of needing to try to
have enough supplies ready to gowas was a lot of a lot of extra

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work. So a lot of extra work.
You've been doing that

Nat Flood (05:30):
bottle sterilizing bottles, yeah, hearts like Oh,
my goodness, I never did thatwith my first can

you explain to me what when you say tongue
tied? I can guess what thatmeans. But can you further
clarify? Yeah, so he has

Nat Flood (05:41):
it's called a sub lingual, sub lingual mucosal
tongue tie. I'm probablybutchering that, for anyone
knows a lot about tongue ties.
So it's quite deep in the backand hard to see. And so what it
means is that they can't gettheir tongue up to the roof of
their mouth to perform thatperfect latch. So anytime he
would latch on to my breath, itwas a couple of sucks and a

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release a release, and he couldnot get a good flow going. So
when you have your let down, youknow, he had basically trained
my body to be two to threeounces of a letdown. And then he
would just stop feeding. And hewas actually doing something
similarly to a bottle. Butobviously, with a bottle, it's a
whole lot easier to get thesuction the latch going. So
luckily, the tongue tiereversal, what she could do what

(06:27):
the dentist could do, made it alot easier with a lot less
clicking on the bottle. But hewas still never able to like
develop that positiverelationship with breastfeeding.
He was very it was it wastraumatizing for him to
breastfeed. Yeah. So for us, itwas like, You know what? Yes, we
could have potentially gone offIsland and found another dentist
that would have done anotherrevision, but like, you know

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what? We just whatever's bestfor him. And right now, this
seems to be his happy place,beating from a bottle. So

yeah, so I hear you and you just use the word
off island. So on that note, Iwant to mention that the reason
that are the way I was able tofind you is I have someone who
comes to our studio that shetravels to Bermuda. And she just
every time she comes back, she'sjust raves about how beautiful

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Bermuda air Have you met Bermudais? That the energy there is
just so incredible. And she'spiqued my interest. So in the
process of finding you in a yogastudio in Bermuda, I guess I'm
just really excited to actuallytalk to someone who lives in
Bermuda. Yeah, can you tell mewhat Bermuda is like?

Nat Flood (07:42):
For me? It's awesome.
So we're a subtropical islandthat's about 700 miles off the
coast of North Carolina. Sowe're like right in line with
North Carolina. We are kind ofthe halfway in between the US
and, and really like thecontinent of Africa, like it's
on the other side, obviously.
And then we have Britain aboveus. So we are at an overseas

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territory of the United Kingdom.
So kind of like how Jamaica wasbefore they went independent,
essentially. And it's beautiful.
It's a 21 square mile island.
It's a mile wide. at its widestpoint. If you look at a map of
Bermuda, it looks like kind of,I've heard it described as like
a hook. Or like someone said tome recently, I had a teacher,
one of my best friends came intaught here for me, back in

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October, she's like, it looks tome like a witch's finger, that's
like curling in telling you tocome here, like come here, that
sort of thing. So it's a reallycool shape. It's actually a
volcano, we're living on top ofan inactive volcano. And so
there is like, you know, it'sjust kind of the island and then
everything below it is inactivevolcanoes. So we have incredible

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reef incredible surf. And thenwe have this insane drop off
point. So all of the fishermenhere, they go out to the drop
off, and that's where they dotheir fishing. But when they go
out that far, you can't even seethe island anymore. That's how
far out it is.

Wow. So it's cool. It's a cool spot. It
sounds amazing. I knoweverything I've heard about it.
And the pics I've seen have fromthe surf culture as well just
looks like this really

Nat Flood (09:14):
is like super hush hush to a lot of people that
move here don't know that youcan surf here. And there's like
the small contingency of surferdudes and super surfer girls
that go out and they you know,they're watching the weather
radar, like crazy to make surethat the conditions are right
and they go out and they paddleand they go for it. So it's
cool. It's like a really it'sstarting to become a real thing.

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Like people are coming here tosurf.

Nice. So yeah, so um another reason to go I'm
What drew you or When did youmove to Bermuda? Are you born
and raised? Or whole story? No,

Nat Flood (09:46):
I am from Toronto, Canada. That is home for me.

I saw the university at how do I say the
name of the university in Canadathat you

Nat Flood (09:54):
went through went? So I went to the University of
Guelph and then I went to Whoo.
I mean, yeah, I mean, well,well, primarily. And then I also
did a little bit at Laurentianthat was actually last got the
ranch. And so that was that thatwas kind of like a secondary
portion of my degree that I did.
Yeah, so that's a born andraised there. my teaching career

(10:18):
began there at a really youngage. And I was just kind of
like, Ah, alright, like Beenthere done that.

When you say teaching creative media yoga
teaching career or so

Nat Flood (10:28):
I started off as a I was a ballet mistress to start.
So I started teaching ballet atabout 18 Just kind of through
university as I was going touniversity. And then I finished
school and I started teachingballet full time. And I went
through a fairly traumaticrelationship was my first

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marriage. And I really lostmyself in it, you know, young,
got married, young, didn'treally know who I was got lost
in that and really couldn't,couldn't really find a way back
to myself. And my boss and I, atthe time, studio owner, she was
like, we just finished thisreally great ballet class, we
had driven into Toronto, I wasliving in London, Ontario at the

(11:10):
time, driven to Toronto to takea three hour ballet class. And
on the way back, she's like, Ican't wait to go to yoga
tomorrow. And I was like, Oh,really, like I did my first yoga
class when I was like, 16 or 17.
And it was like, in an upstairsloft, was on carpet with like
this really witchy instructor.
And they like old ladies. Theywere cackling and like just

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giggling the whole time. So myfirst interaction with yoga, I
was like, I don't really I don'tget it. And so when she said,
hey, you know, do you want tocome to yoga with me? I was
like, I guess she's like yourbody? I feel great after you
should definitely come. And soit was 10,000 or 2010, maybe
2009? Yeah. 2009. And it waswhen the really big boom of hot

(11:55):
yoga was happening. Right? Sothis was, it was Moksha Yoga was
my first class. So I guess Ithink in the states a little bit
like moto yoga. Is that right?

You know, states heard of Moksha as but
okay,

Nat Flood (12:07):
so it's like, it's like a pre choreographed class.
It's like a half hour sequence,a couple of vinyasas in there,
whatever. And you're in front ofthe mirror, like, it's obviously
very big from like from thatbecause the teachers don't yell
at you or anything. But that wasthe general the general gist of
it. And I loved it. Oh, my God,I was hooked. But I think I also

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got hooked for the wrongreasons. Like obviously, as a
ballet dancer, I was able towatch my body in these mirrors
had major body image issues atthe time. But when the standing
sequencing went to see thesequencing, that was when I
could like really drop intomyself and felt okay, like this

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is this is this is me, this isthis is what I'm feeling. This
is what I'm watching develop inmy body. And I was really able
to come back to myself and feltthat it was such a positive
influence on not only how I sawmyself how I felt about myself,
how I was able to look at myselfin the mirror that I started
teaching my ballet studentsyoga. So instead of doing their

(13:13):
three ballet classes a week wedid two ballet classes in one
yoga, like stretchingconditioning was what we called
it. Yeah, and started teachingthem yoga that way. And then I
traveled to Europe with mybrother. And it was like a
breaking point for me. I waslike this, the way that I'm
living my life what I'm what I'mgiving to these young women is

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not positive. I really sufferedbecause of this way that I've
taught myself to have a detestfor my body. And so I walked
away from it. I walked away fromteaching ballet and I took a
year kind of sabbatical and gotcertified as a yoga teacher,
quickly got certified as aPilates teacher, and moved to

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Toronto, as living in London andmoved to Toronto and started
teaching full time and loved it.
It was like such a such apositive change not only in my
like physical body, but in mymental state. I realized that
that's who I was. And yeah, thenI got bored. Now you're just
teaching a long time, right?

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You're like yeah, I need a shakeup. Like I love I said earlier,
I love variables. I love forpeople to throw things in and
shake it up. So it's like, youknow, I'm, I'm gonna move I'm
gonna leave. Yeah. And in thatmoving and leaving. I had been
going backwards and forwards toMexico, my parents were often
there on vacation. So I haddeveloped a really good
relationship in Puerto Vallartawith some teachers and some

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students, and I was goingbackwards and forwards for a lot
of years. And finally, as I wasassigned to leave Toronto, one
of the teachers at a studio thatdoesn't exist anymore in Puerto
Vallarta said to me, like, whydon't you come down and lead a
workshop for us? So Yeah, cool.
That's awesome. I'll do that. SoI boarded the plane. And sitting
adjacent to me is my currenthusband. You know, I say current

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like, maybe he won't be mad.
Yeah, so that was almost 10years ago now that we met on
that flight. So he was comingfrom Bermuda, to Puerto Vallarta
to go fishing. And I was comingfrom Toronto to Puerto Vallarta
to teach yoga. And we had ourfirst date in Puerto Vallarta.

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And it was like a week and wehad a great time. And we were
both kind of like, hey, bye, seeyou never. And because I didn't
really have anywhere to be. Heinvited me to Bermuda to just
come see it and see what Ithought. And so I went for two
weeks. And it was the strangestthing as I saw the island for
the first time and starteddescending into the airport. I

(15:54):
was like, This feels like home.
Wow. It was like just thismassive, like, overcoming like,
this is where you're meant tobe. So we spent I spent two
weeks here. And the very lastday that I was here, I went and
took a yoga class. Because forme, I don't know about you. When
I go on vacation. Like the lastthing I want to do is take
o'clock.

I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. If you're
doing it all the time, or like,I'm going to take a vacation. On
vacation, do

Nat Flood (16:20):
yoga. Yeah. So I had to convince myself like, you
know, I just go see what theyoga seems like in Bermuda. And
so I jumped into class, andafter class, I was offered a
job. Oh, wow. What do you whatare you doing here? Why are you?
Why did you like that? Yeah, youwant to come teach for me. And
so like, the rest is history. Ibeen here since then. And after

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I had my first son, so it'll befour years this April, I opened
up Sramana circle.

That's really cool. I saw that you opened up
in 2019. That's right, right.
When I, when I saw that number,I went, Oh, gosh, that's right
before the pandemic, like what achallenging time to start a
business like just long enoughto kind of be like, we're doing
this I got, you know, I got mymojo, go. And then all of a
sudden, okay, wait, put onpause. But I have no idea what

(17:09):
Bermuda was like. But I knowlike smaller islands situations,
probably fairly strict. I don'tknow what what was like.

Nat Flood (17:19):
So you're totally right. That was exactly it. We
were just like really booming,and then obviously shut down.
Bro. Bermuda, luckily, was notas strict as the US or Canada.
So we

only had or London for that matter,
obviously be in London for thatmatter.

Nat Flood (17:39):
We only had two lockdowns here. So the initial
lockdown, that was four weeks, Iwant to say. And then we were
able to start with outdoorpracticing. So because obviously
where we live, we were able tohook up with resorts on island,
people were so willing, like beout in parks, and people were

(17:59):
desperate for that connection,you know. So we started outdoor
classes and ran that all throughthe summer. And then I would say
by the fall was when we wereable to open with restrictions
physically in the space. So Iremember the first class we
opened with I was allowed tohave six people for the size of
the space. And then every weekit got better and better and
better and better and better.
Until I think it was April 2021When things got bad again. And

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we were locked down again fortwo weeks. And then the release
of restrictions happened a lotfaster. The second time, like we
could get back into the studioand things were you know,
rolling again. And I just haveto say like, Rita, it's an
island of 60,000 people. It's asmall town, it's a small

(18:44):
community. People were they knewif they stopped supporting local
businesses that none of us wouldbe able to open. Yeah. So my
members, they saved us. That'sthe only way that I did is we
were teaching over zoom. Theywere we were doing outdoor
classes, and they just continuedto pay their membership fees,
because they could see we weretrying hard we then we were able

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to develop an online platformthrough that right like because,
you know, obviously they'rethey're continuing their fees.
So for me, I was like, okay,like, what more can I do for my
for my numbers. And so wedeveloped an online platform
that we're still using today. Westill live stream all of our
classes, and we have like awhole library of content. See
me? Yeah. Yeah. Like it's like,what else do you do you pivot?

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That was the language you pivotand you make it work and
movement is so important that weweren't just going to fold I
wasn't just going to bend over,you know, like, Yeah, that
wasn't happening. And so sincethen, it's just been like this
continual builds of peoplehearing about us expanding our
programming, offering more,doing more, and I mean, now

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we're, we start at seven in themorning, and we finish at like
830 at night, and we're teachingclasses all day.

Yeah. Right.
That's amazing. That's reallycool art. I'm curious, growing
growing up, every time I heardabout Bermuda, it was like the
Bermuda Triangle idea, this sortof mysterious that if you go out
there, you'll never come backagain. What is the reality of
all that? What is the historybehind that? And why is that?

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So?

Nat Flood (20:20):
The Bermuda Triangle is three points. It's Miami,
Bermuda, and Puerto Rico. Sothat is the that's the triangle
of space. There are a lot ofkind of funny things that do
happen around here. Mostrecently, we lost and if
anyone's listening that, likeknows all the details of the
story. We've we've lost oceanliners, we've lost. Most

(20:45):
recently, we have these likesailgp. So it's like single man
crude sailboats. And this islike a veteran of 2025 years
went down between I'm not surethat sort of in the Carolinas,
or maybe it was like, the EastCoast, like more Martha's
Vineyard kind of area. So it's arace from east to Bermuda. And

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he went over he went overboard.
So it's like, it's a thing likeit totally happens to have any
more here than anywhere else. Idon't, I don't really know. But
I think what's weird is that ittakes a while to like, gather
the information and like to goout and find them and the search
and the rescue. And just so manyalso, like shipwrecks and stuff,
like we have an incrediblethere's actually a map Teddy
Tucker's map of shipwrecksBermuda shipwreck, and if you

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look at it, there are hundredsof ships that went down all the
way around Bermuda, because ofthe reef, like what I was
speaking earlier. You can't seeit. But because of the volcano,
essentially, there's all thesepoints that jut out. So, you
know, you Bermuda, you know, gota got a reputation based on
that. And then obviously, in thefirst time, obviously, but on

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the first voyage over in 1609,when Bermuda was discovered the
first it was a shipwreck thatthey made it on islands, they
left two guys on island alongwith a bunch of pigs. And so
anytime people were passing bythe island, they called it the
devil's aisle, because it wasjust squealing pigs all the

(22:14):
time. So it has this like verykind of, like dark a bit like
history and connotation. Yeah.
You know, a lot of people wouldknow it from like buried
treasure like Teddy Tucker'sburied treasure, finding all
like the the coins from SpanishArmada and things like that. It
goes. It's just this wildhistory of shipwrecks and stuff.

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So I think that's where a lot ofit comes from. But if you'd ask
a Bermudian, now, comedianswould just like shrug your
shoulders that you'd be likeanything.

It's just a bunch of folklore.

Nat Flood (22:50):
Just a bunch of folklore. It's it. Yeah, but,
but obviously, the shipwrecksare super well documented,
because you were going out andtrying to find, yeah, the buried
treasure,

right? What is the so are? How many? How many
people are moving to Bermudaversus leaving Bermuda? Does
Bermuda stay pretty lightconsistent with your population?
Is there is there a lot of workopportunity like? Yeah, so

Nat Flood (23:14):
the work opportunity here is reinsurance. That's the
big industry in Bermudareinsurance.

What does that mean? Rebbe was

Nat Flood (23:21):
like real jobs. Dude, you know, I don't know. Like,
I've never had a real job. Youknow what I mean? Like they work
a nine to five reinsurance. Sothey're so what they do is they
sell insurance to insurancecompanies.

Yep. Yeah.
Okay. No, and

Nat Flood (23:36):
there's a lot of like, accounting, and actuaries.
Yeah, risk assessmentmanagement. Like, you know, when
people are like, Oh, do you knowwhat so and so doesn't like,
they have a real job. I'm notreally sure I really know the
ins and outs of what they do.
But there's a lot of them here.
And that's how, because Bermudais the most expensive country in
the world to live in. So maybe,maybe that's something you

(23:59):
didn't know. It is the mostexpensive country if you go and
look up one of those like, yeah,Google lists or whatever. Yeah.
Even more expensive thanSwitzerland. Yeah. So that's how
that's why because there'sthere's so much money here and
there. And because we're small,and because obviously, we import
everything. We don't exportanything. So we're very reliant

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on the US. We have containerships that come in every two
weeks. Essentially, there's likeenough on island for us to
survive for three weeks. Andthat's it. So something ever
happened in mainland or we likepissing people off, you know?
Yeah, we don't really have

too much to get along the ride. Yeah, a

Nat Flood (24:39):
long swim. Like there's really there's no way
off. Besides, besides anairplane. You know, some people
some people do vote and there'slike, there's a big yachting
culture here. But you know, ifyou don't have a yacht like, you
know, you're kind of screwed.
Got it.

Now, I saw your studio on the photos that you've
been posting on Instagram, andit looks so beautiful was that
thank you existing building oris that something? Oh my gosh.
So what's the story behind I was

Nat Flood (25:03):
so lucky. So in October of 2018 I finally like
this building had been on ourrealtor websites for the longest
time I had been like stalking itfor the better part of probably
six months at that point. Andthat October 2018, I was finally
like, No, I had my son inFebruary, I thought that I was
going to be a stay at home mom.
And I was like, This is not mygig. I really don't like this I
need a life like I'm, I'mtalented. I need I need to I

(25:26):
need an outlet. So I finallylike kind of harassed the
realtor enough that was like,Yeah, okay, you can come see it,
but like, I don't think you'rereally gonna like it like I
don't think it's going to bewhat you need. It's at the it's
a it's a loft is a third storeyloft, and it's up this
horrendous flight of stairs. Andyou get up to this loft, and you
come in, and it's just asbright, open, airy space. Now

(25:48):
there was like carpet all overthe ground and stuff. It had
previously been an architecturefirm called the studio. And in
this architects building of thisspace, she had actually exposed
all of the rafters and the beamsthat are originally existing in
all original Bermudaarchitecture. So we build things

(26:10):
with limestone. That's what theisland is made on. Like, we're
it's a limestone island. So weeverything is built in
limestone, and then all of thestructure is built with wooden
beams like two by four beams. Sothat's what it was slate
overtop. So that's what myceiling is.

That's what amazing. Yeah, yeah, the

Nat Flood (26:34):
space was mostly open. I only had to knock down
one wall. It's a 20 by 40 studiowith like these gorgeous dark
beams and white ceiling. Yeah,we lay down hardwood. And then
that like was kind of it wepainted some walls, lay down
some more flooring, like thebones of the building was it was
perfect. I walked in. I said,and she's like, What do you

(26:55):
think? You know, the stairs kindof suck? Don't they? Like no,
man. That's the best warmupever. Like, yeah, no, it's not
accessible because there's noelevators. So you do have to be
able to get the stairs. But I'vealways been very upfront about
that, like we are. We'reinaccessible. You do have to
climb the stairs. But once youget up here, it's paradise.
Like, it's like our own littleyou don't even feel like you're

(27:16):
in Bermuda anymore. So forpeople who, you know, get Island
fever and rock fever, they lovecoming up here. It's like, oh,
I'm in the city. Like it feelslike Toronto. Or it feels like,
you know, New York or whatever,when they come up here,
obviously, just because of byinfluence being from being from
Toronto. Yeah, that's the vibe.
The vibe is just like not not anisland. It's, that's just so

(27:36):
much more than that.

That's amazing.
Can you speak a little bit aboutyour own personal feelings and
experience with rock fever?

Nat Flood (27:45):
Hmm, I don't get it.
I don't. I don't. Yeah, I thinkyou have to be local, I think
but I mean, actually, I do knowpeople who aren't local that get
it? Yeah. I when I first movedhere, the culture was very much,
six weeks on. And then vacationsix weeks on island vacation six
people were leaving, like everysix weeks just like gain
perspective. Because again, youknow, it's a paradise. It's

(28:06):
amazing here, but it's like notreally real life when you live
in such a small community in asmall place. And the things that
happen here that the culturesometimes like the things, the
things that are relevant inBermuda or not necessarily
relevant in other places. Andso, yeah, people get really
itchy and I don't I don't know Idon't have that. And I don't

(28:28):
know whether it's because I'vecreated this space like this is
yeah, if I was to build myself ahome this would be it. So I'm
here kind of all day every dayand I love being here. And I
enjoying the MMA I feel like Itaught myself that's what I
learned during the pandemic. Imade my home my sanctuary like
everything in that space iseverything that I love, and
everything in this space iseverything that I love so I

(28:49):
never really feel like I have toleave

that's cool.
I'm

Nat Flood (28:54):
I was off Island was June 2021. Yeah, June 2021.

Got it. Got it.

Nat Flood (29:02):
I'm not slated to leave until May 2023.

Like I'm settled in. I'm awesome. Well,
it sounds like when you'recoming in on the airplane and
you had that feeling of like ohmy gosh, this is my home then
that even speaks to the factthat that potentially is why
you're still comfortable. Yeah,regardless of how much
landmasses around you totally

Nat Flood (29:22):
how I mean like all people I feel like we exist
everyone exists in like a 10 to15 mile radius like you're
really thinking like your lifeyou know?

Yeah, it's true. How far away is your home
from your studio? Are you areyou in the same building? I'm

Nat Flood (29:34):
so close. I'm literally up the road. I takes
me less than 10 minutes to gethere.

How are you managing being a studio owner
having two children and havingclasses running from the sounds
like seven in the morning tilleight o'clock at night? It is I
have.

Nat Flood (29:50):
I have I'm so blessed I have the most incredible team.
I have. Sensational businesspartner that is here. She heard
her children are off inuniversity and things like that.
So she has a lot of time todedicate to the space, which I'm
so grateful for. My team ofteachers is absolutely

(30:12):
incredible. There are wonderful,we're a team of women, not but
not like on purpose. It's justhow it's worked out. They are
wonderful humans. They are likesponges for learning. They love
being here and love thecommunity. So I honestly, it
takes a village and there's noway that I would be able to do
this if it wasn't for myincredible team. Oh, that's

(30:34):
amazing. And at home, myhusband, my husband's great,
like my current husband.

That's awesome.
We got to be we got to be veryrealistic and humorous at the
same time, right? Like,

Nat Flood (30:49):
he's awesome. So he's lots of support at home. So
well, that's

cool. I'm, I'm curious. Can you speak a little
bit about what you're in termsof learning different styles of
yoga? And what you are mostpassionate about teaching
currently? Yeah. So

Nat Flood (31:05):
I mean, I found yoga, as I said, like kind of that
Moksha Hatha vinyasa style,which then you know, as a ballet
dancer, I of course, I ended updoing my teacher training in
Ashtanga like that. That's justwhat spoke to me. I you know, I
never I've not been to India,I've never done the whole Mysore
thing but the teacher that Itrained with in in Toronto runs

(31:27):
a Mysore based Ashtanga YogaCenter. So that was that was my
training. Do you mind sharing? Iwas very lucky. Say again, do

you mind sharing their name? Yeah,
Ashtanga

Nat Flood (31:39):
Yoga Canada.

That is to see hey, did Rob Yeah, we practice
card here at our studio. I feellike he's got a ton of stuff
online. The beautiful human

Nat Flood (31:50):
like, that's such a great man. So I did all of my
practice teaching hours thereand then was able to do my
training one on one with myteacher in London. Her name's
Sarah Levin's. She was teachingout of the home studio that I
was practicing at. And so shewas very much like, hey, we like

(32:10):
let's get this done. Let's dothis together. So I was very
lucky to do it entirely one onone with her. Again, another
beautiful human. And then I kindof moved myself to Toronto and
very much like the Torontoscene. There was still like down
dog in Toronto. I don't knowwhether you know, any, like
Toronto studio. I've heard ofthat. Yeah, downward dog was the
big like, I started kind of yogastudio there. I didn't gravitate

(32:32):
towards that. Because I hadactually been getting really
injured doing Ashtanga, my lowback was trashed, like, trashed.
didn't really understand thecore connection yet like, you
know, Mula Bandha, Uliana.
Bandha. Like, okay, those areall words that like, they were
never really fully explained tome and I don't think I really
understood. So that is when thePilates came in. So I was I

(32:54):
trained under average Joliet outof misfit studio, she trained me
and stopped pilates reformerPilates and I started teaching
Pilates almost immediately.
Again, like as a as a teacher.
For me, it was very easy to justlike, grab new modalities and
put them in and just startregurgitating them like it's

(33:15):
not. Yeah, it was very easy forme to step kind of into that. So
Pilates was happening, yoga washappening. And then her studio
was very much at the time aboutthe blend, fusion, this blend of
Pilates and yoga. So I gotreally addicted to doing that.
And that was a real thing for mefor a long time teaching this
blend of, of both disciplines.

(33:39):
Then leaving Toronto and movingto Bermuda. I was I was still
doing that. That was all stillhappening. And then I don't know
if I said to you the name,Exhale. Exhale is a brand of of
movements studios kind of allover the states. And they are
bar bars there. So exhale wasopening up in Bermuda. And I was

(34:01):
like, Yeah, okay, like I'lllearn anything. That sounds
good. So certified in bar. Andso I was very much doing the
three bar yoga, Pilates barre,yoga, pilates, and my body is
feeling great things areawesome. Loved it. Probably peak
of my peak of my fitness rightbefore I got pregnant. got
pregnant, because of my insanelystrong core. And my Pilates

(34:23):
breath, the breath work that Iwas doing with Pilates. After
birth, I had incrediblediastasis like the amount it's
like I had like a five fingerseparation no lie after the
birth of my first son. Thatreally did not resolve itself.
So I was like, ah, no big deal.
I am a Pilates teacher. I do allthese things. I'll be able to

(34:46):
get my body back like I'll beable to like bring things back I
knew would never be the same butlike I can work with it. What I
was doing wasn't working like itreally wasn't working. It was
making it worse. My back painwas back Yeah, things, things
weren't good in my body. And Istarted seeking out help that
was not movement. So I startedseeing a physiotherapist on

(35:07):
islands named Michel monk. And Istarted seeing a chiropractor on
island named Mark Dupont. Andbetween the two of them,
retained a lot of incredibleinformation had pelvic floor
assessment, realizing that I hadan incredibly hypertonic pelvic
floor, which is what led to mydiastasis and which was really
what was keeping me from healingfully. Because even after birth,

(35:31):
I did have a very traumaticbirth birth in the hospital
here. It was vaginal, but lotsof trauma. I didn't really
realize that having a reallytight pelvic floor was an issue
for birth, when I say it outloud, it's like, Well, duh, of
course, it's an issue. But whenyou don't know, that's what you
have, you don't know that's aproblem when you're going into
birthing, especially when you'rein a high intensity environment.

(35:51):
And I'm sure you can hear bytalking to me, I'm a very type a
person. I love to be in control.
So for me, it's hard to youknow, and really let my pelvic
floor go. And so learning thatfrom her. And then Dr. Mark
DuPont is a dynamicneuromuscular stabilization

(36:12):
practitioner. So DNS for short,it is a field of developmental
kinesiology, that is out ofPrague is the Prague school that
does DNS. And he basicallyrehabilitated my body while
using DNS, so completelydifferent type of work
technique, utilizing all of mypelvic floor work that I was

(36:35):
doing with my physiotherapist,it was all kind of happening
together. And then as this washappening, of course, me I'm
going, this is insane, that I'mable to do this with my body.
How do I give this to myclients? How do I turn this into
Pilates? And how do I turn thisinto yoga? So the DNS model is
very much and you would knowthis with having two kids, the

(36:55):
DNS model is very much based onas I said, developmental
kinesiology, which is ourdevelop our movement development
meant from birth. So we startyou lay your baby on that three
months supine with your legs inthe air and your arms in the
air, and then a very much turnsinto a sideline position, that's
the next movement pattern a babygives you is that kind of

(37:16):
rolling from side to side. Andthen eventually, you get the
rolling that goes into a tummytime, called three month prone.
So you're in that kind ofposition where they're learning
to lift their head, and they'relearning to kind of press up
with their hands. And theneventually you get into a
quadruped head position, you getthat kind of rocking forwards
and backwards, that eventuallyturns into crawling, and then

(37:38):
you get the tripod or like theleg forward, that eventually
turns into the pulling up andgoing back down and the pulling
up, that eventually turns into asquat, that kind of weird like
squat, like they look likethey're gonna poop, and then
standing. And that is thedevelopmental pattern of every
single human being, we all didthat. And so training, this
developmental movement patternwas how I was able to truthfully

(38:03):
heal my diastasis and make itfunctional.

Wow, that is, oh,

Nat Flood (38:09):
that, yeah, turned that developmental movement
pattern, into Pilates, and intoyoga. So our movement, I call it
a movement ladder, we start myvery first so we have six
classes that are part of ourmethod Sramana method, we start
on our backs in the first classcalled connection, learning how
to breathe. So learning how tobreathe diaphragmatic ly,

(38:33):
understanding our pelvic floor,the ability to work our pelvic
floor manually andsubconsciously. And use that in
core work was which isessentially what a three month
supine is, in order to get yourlegs up and your arms up your
your belly breathing, and youryour in core work. So we teach
that in that first class, oursecondary classes, kind of
learning about the rolling, anda lot of that again, so the

(38:56):
Pilates way that I'm doing it isputting in all the core work all
the curls, all the leg lifts,all the toe taps, that's all
happening in in thatdevelopmental pattern. So then
our next class is balance. Andthat's where we're learning kind
of all the rolling and side toside and we start to learn the
glute engagement, which is fromQuadra pad into the tripod
stance. So we're learning kindof all of that, and again, lots

(39:18):
of reps, lots of which is thePilates component, slow reps,
etc. Our next class is spirit,which we are adding in the yoga
component. So that peak posturefor spirit is Down Dog, which is
a bear in developmentalmovement. So you know, when kids
go from quadrupeds on theirhands, their knees and they

(39:40):
start lifting their butt up, andthey're kind of walking on all
fours essentially. So we'repeaking to that in that class,
using stretching using moredevelopmental movement pattern.
The next class is freedom. Sowhere we get a little bit
higher, we're working more onsquatting and standing lunging.
We start to incorporate the ideaof vinyasa of Low. And then from

(40:02):
there, it goes into Fusion,which is the combination of the
core work and the yoga which isway more high intensity. So more
Pilates base, and thensynthesis, which is more yoga
base. So again, adding in allthe breath work technique,
that's kind of the, the threadthat stays the same all the way
through is keeping that threedimensional breath the whole
way. And then it's the pilatesand then a lot more yoga and

(40:22):
synthesis. So it's likebasically a graduation to
fusion.

Whoa. Yeah.
Yeah. That is really cool. Imean, just visualizing, come
take class, I want to that is afascinating rehab strategy.

Nat Flood (40:43):
Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, the stuff
that I'm seeing. And you can seewomen's bodies in men's bodies,
like the release of back pain,the healing of diastasis, the
understanding of pelvic floor,people's sex lives, improving
shoulder pain, like just beingable to, like be in a really,
you know, safe developmentalposition where you can breathe.

(41:05):
And I mean, maybe your wifemight know this that she likes,
I'm hair. But if you're someonewho has done a lot of hair, you
know, you're you're using youryour round brush and your blow
dryer, and you're likestraightening your hair, and you
straighten it hot, hot, and thenyou hit the cold button to set
it, you do one more passivecold. That's how I describe the
breath work. The breath work isliterally that cold pass, where

(41:27):
it's teaching your muscles andyour neurology, it's, it's all
up here that this is the new setpattern. That's what it does.

You know? It sounds like you're onto
something that are what, whatis? What kind of, obviously
you're getting incrediblefeedback from immediate
community. Is there is thereanybody else around the world
doing what you're doing?

Nat Flood (41:59):
Um, I would imagine so. So DNS, they're kind of like
these, the PROG school, that's avery hush hush thing. It's like,
you know, and they wouldprobably, if they ever heard
this, they would be like, Oh, wedidn't train her. She's not.
She's not legit. Like that'sthat that would probably be the
response. And, and that'stotally fine for me, because

(42:21):
their stuff is brilliant. ButI'm actually not able to go
train with them, because I'm nota physiotherapist, high
refractor, any of those things.
So they're more like a medicalso I can take like the baseline
courses. So like, there's yogaand pilates and stuff like that.
They've got a pelvic floor rehabas well. I have never taken any
of that all of it has just beenfrom my chiropractor, him. He's

(42:43):
all he's certified, and all ofthat, and me just like pulling
from all of the stuff that he'srehabbing me with, and then
turning it essentially intochoreography. So I would imagine
it's happening kind of quietlyall over the place. And some of
these people are that go and getthe certification that are

(43:03):
chiropractors, they run CrossFitboxes and gyms, and they're
completely changing theirprogramming after they hear
about all of this stuff. Andit's kind of kitschy. It's kind
of like, what am I doing, butevery time you stand up at the
end of class, you're like, oh,like, I've just completely reset

(43:23):
my body. So, you know, anyreally like, you kind of you
could give me any ailment, and Ican, I can pretty much work with
it. Like whatever the issue is,is it a shoulder? Is it a hip?
Is it uh, you know, I've gotclients that are that, you know,
so as issues and you know, youname it, whatever, like,
whatever the issue is,especially postpartum
rehabilitation. It pretty muchtaps it and like, I've been kind

(43:48):
of waiting. Because, I mean,hopefully what you hear from
talking to me is like, I'malways kind of looking for the
next thing. Like, I want to becurrent, I want to know what's
going on. And I've yet to findanything else that like, heals
it. Yeah. And I have yet to findan issue. And obviously, the
island is small, but I've yet tohave an issue come through my

(44:08):
door that's been able to walk upmy stairs that I haven't been
able to help.

Whoa, I know.
Something about it just makes somuch sense. Why wouldn't we
revert to our initial birthstate? Right, rebuild from the
ground back, right? Instead oftrying like every good

Nat Flood (44:34):
yoga class you've ever taken, right? The ones that
start with breath work and corework are the best classes you've
ever taken. There's a reason forthat, you know? Yeah. And I
think

yeah, that's amazing. Wow, powerful. I didn't
even know I was going to stumbleon to you right now. Like I like
this girl that lives in Bermuda.
Obviously, that's making ithappen. It's very brilliant. I'm
excited by this. You Yeah, I'mreally,

Nat Flood (45:01):
I'm happy to share.
I'm super I'm super happy toshare hopefully as you can hear
my voice like, I am neversomeone that's like, oh, like
quiet about what I'm doing okay?

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Nat Flood (45:12):
come see what I'm doing. I will teach you I have
taught I've already taughtteacher training in it, that
people are going in there takingit places, we are actually doing
a 200 hour training in Aprilthat will cover the breath work
in the core work segments. Butit is obviously a 200 hour yoga
Alliance. Yeah, certifiedthings. So we have to follow
their their outline, but it'llstill be very much DNS kind of

(45:37):
Shamanic method based.

Are you having that all in studio? Or is that
Hi,

Nat Flood (45:42):
I'm so excited.

So it's so hot online. Not not online?

Nat Flood (45:47):
No, not online.
Online, I think we're going tooffer an online component next
time that we're going to do halfof it online and the other half
in person. So I'm the teacherthat's coming down. She's
actually out of a she in FortLauderdale. I should know where
she is. She's in Florida. She'scalled the traveling yoga
studio. She and I crossed pathsin San Diego when I was teaching

(46:07):
in San Diego before the tear.
And she does during the pandemicshe started this online yoga
teacher training. And she verymuch curates yoga teacher
trainings for studio spaces. Sofor me, I'm again, probably as
you can hear Yoga is a thing forme. But it's not like my it's

(46:27):
not my only thing. So for me tolike create a 200 hour teacher
training. I'm like, I don'tknow, there's so many other
things. And she has hisexpertise. So it's like, great,
come on in, let's bring you in.
Yeah, I'll put what I know inwith what you know. And we will
have this teacher training. Soit's over four weeks. Here, it's
all going to be integrated intothe studio, which I think will
be so fun. We're going to runall of our classes like normal,

(46:48):
and we've just integratedtraining hours with with the
teacher training, so like theirpractice hours and extra hours,
etc. Yeah.

Very cool.
Amazing. Yeah, amazing. We'retrying I mean, also to just to
hear your background in theworld of dance, the evolution
toward yoga, naturally intoPilates, and then having your
own personal issues that youneed healing with looking
outside the box, finding peoplefrom the chiropractic and like,

(47:20):
what was the other terminologythat you used from physiotherapy
with everything you to to reallyjust like, figure out what
works. So it's amazing to hearyour story, and to see how it
all evolved and where you're atnow. That's really
inspirational. It's so cool.
Very cool. Very cool. You know,you had made mention earlier

(47:44):
about the type of body imagingstuff that happens in the ballet
world. And if you don't want tospeak about any of this, I
totally understand, but I'm justcurious. How I'm aware.
Personally, just in relation totrauma like it, it takes time.
Like things don't just happenovernight? No. Is it something

(48:06):
that you are still working with?
Or have you turned to major?

Nat Flood (48:13):
Postpartum? Yeah, I feel I feel like it's Oh, it's
always a thing.

What happened?
Postpartum do you mean inrelation to like, being able to
see yourself and not havenegative thinking because your
body's changed from

Nat Flood (48:26):
why your body changes so much? Especially after the
second one, man, those secondbabies. So the first one wasn't
bad. But the second one, I waslike, oh, boy, I'm definitely
and it's, it's the primaryreason that we don't have any
mirrors in our studio. I don'twant to I don't, I don't know
that it's healthy. It's healthyto be staring at your reflection
all day long. So I don't have ascale in my home. It's why I

(48:53):
spend a lot of time in sweats.
You know, as soon as I get home,I'm like, immediately taking off
my leggings and I'm getting intoa pair of sweats. And a lot of

it the idea there not that leggings and
stuff. You'll judge yourselfmore when you see yourself in
something tight versus somethingloose. That's a I never thought
of that. That makes perfectsense. Yeah,

Nat Flood (49:13):
yeah. So you just it's just you're just kind of
changing your habits in order tonot not prevent your mind from
going there because I think it'simportant to go there and to
deal with the thoughts. But it'sit just it's just nicer, it's
easier and again, that that typeA or hypertonicity for me, it
comes right down when that is myreality and I'm you know,

(49:35):
sitting cozy in my house and notworrying about you know, is my
stomach sticking out or, youknow, my legs look fat today or,
you know, my boobs look crazybecause I breastfed breastfed
two kids, you know, it's um,what is your it's I feel like
it's constantly date. It's adaily it's a daily practice.

(49:56):
Yeah.

What is your earliest memory of Starting to
think negatively about your bodyimage.

Nat Flood (50:04):
Yeah, I remember it from I probably was I want to
say six or seven years old,maybe. And standing in front of
mirrors before ballet exams.
And, you know, standing in aballet first position, some

(50:24):
girls would have space betweentheir legs, they would have like
a thigh gap. And from six toseven years old, I knew I
didn't, I didn't have that. AndI remember that being a really,
like, why isn't my body as goodas theirs? Yeah. Why? Like, why?
Why am I fat, I was like six orseven, I was not that like I am,
as I'm a small human, just justthose thoughts. And then we used

(50:49):
to have to wear, like theselittle elastic waist bands
around our body suits forexaminations. And I remember
the, the one that they wanted togive me was, probably just gave
me the wrong like, they probablyjust handed me the wrong side.
But it was too small. And I hadto go and get another, like, the
next size up or whatever. And Ijust remember being so upset

(51:09):
with myself that like that.
Yeah, you know, that issomething that I had to do at
six or seven years old.

It's amazing.
It was just a continuation.
Yeah, that's incredible. I mean,have you observed because you've
been able to traverse multiplesfears of body movement,
schooling in relation to yogaand, and dance. And we do see
this in yoga as well. I feellike in yoga, there's a bit more
of a there is a positive turn inthe direction of accepting,

(51:42):
making accessible for everybody,and that any one particular body
shape size is not that or is itbetter than another? And
obviously, in ballet, I'mguessing what actually, my
question is, is the ballet worldmaking accommodations for this

(52:03):
type of thinking? No, it's not.
It just, it's pretty steadfastin that look, Nope, we're not
going there. Sorry. Like, that'sit for you.

Nat Flood (52:10):
It's an elite sport, it's an elite, the best of the
best of the best. And I mean, Ijust remember, you know, the
boys would get so muchattention, because there's so
few boys that do ballet. So itwas so much more likely that the
boys would go pro and boys wouldbe flooded for schools and
things like that, but becausethere were so many girls, and
there are so many girls that arestill participating, you know,

(52:33):
and are excellent at what theydo. And I mean, if you're gonna
dance on pointe shoes for hoursat a time, like, I don't know, I
can't imagine being being abetter body person. And having
the ability to do that, youknow, just to be able to move
bodyweight like that. It was itwas already hard enough. Got it.
So maybe it is maybe it ishappening, and maybe things are

(52:54):
changing. Obviously, I haven'tbeen in that world in a long
time. But what you see on thestage and what you see, and
imagery very much hasn'tchanged. I think the only thing
that is happening now is thatthere is there are more people
of color in the belly industry.
And even that, like evenproblems that come to my mouth,
I'm realizing there really isn'tthere really still isn't space

(53:15):
for that. And usually when youare a person of color, there are
only certain companies that areinterested in you, you know, the
Alvin Ailey's and things likethat. There really is not a lot
of space for different bodieddiversity and different
differently abled people. Yeah,the diversity is just not there.

All right, well, luckily, we're in a world
now where we can, yeah, we're,we're in a free flow. We're in a
free flow environment where likeyou're creating a space where
you're you're able, you don'thave to follow the 26 poses of
the hot yoga series, to turn thetemperature dial to the exact
same temperature. Yeah, I mean,you're in this place, where you

(54:00):
can create a whole new thingbased off of what is important
in the moment, which obviouslyis the way of the future.

Nat Flood (54:11):
It can be whatever you want it to be, you know,
just sitting and breathing.
That's yoga like yes, you youattempting something in a day
that's for me, that's yoga, likeanything like that anything with
mindfulness is is yoga. And andI you know, I've taken a really
long time. publish that imageof, of shamanic circles

(54:35):
specifically that we arecompletely opened absolutely
every age, demographic, race,religion, size, color, like we
are open, we want you here. It'sa safe space for you. You will
look around and see other peoplewho look like you because you

(54:57):
know what Bermuda was before, itwasn't that like, there just
wasn't that space. And we'vereally we've really had to work
hard to especially becauseBermuda is a very, very
religious Island. It's very.
Yeah, yoga is scary yoga, yogais the work of the devil yoga is

(55:21):
these negative things. And sowe've had to work real hard to
like, be involved in thecommunity and be accepted by the
community and approach it at anangle that is accessible to
people, whether that's pricepoint, whether that's, you know,
class titles on the schedule.
You know, we had, we've had alot of really interesting we do
like village talks, and justinteresting conversations that

(55:44):
we've had about diversity andculture and color and size, all
of those things, invisibledisabilities, like we're just
we're trying to be for everyone.
Period.

I hear you not Oh, man, I will. I'm so
inspired. I'm extremelypleasantly surprised. But at the
same time, what I can't expressenough about doing podcasting
and reaching out to people thatI don't know, first for you to
just willingly join me notknowing me from the Land of the

(56:20):
Moon, shows that they're thatyou have that open mind that is
just so important, I think. AndI'm just so appreciative to meet
other people like you. And also,you know, I just love hearing
your story and your evolution isabsolutely, you know, so
incredible. So inspirational.
And I just really thankful tohave this chance. And I'm

(56:41):
excited to see what will comeout of this. Maybe I can even
come or bring a group to Bermudaand and I mean, it's only what
do you say it's only 700 milesaway? It's not

Nat Flood (56:52):
like if you can fly.
Where are you? Are you to Miami?
to Miami? It's a direct flight.

We're in Juno Beach. So like about an hour and
15 north of Miami. We're on likethe West. Palm shot

Nat Flood (57:03):
is perfect. That is perfect. direct flight from
Miami, right, Brian, it's yourabout here, come take some
class. And if you're

ever over in Florida to we'd love to host Jen
and Costa semana training, orsomething of that nature over
here in this neck of the woods,you know, now I want to I know
you have a busy schedule. So Idon't want to hold you too long.
But I'm curious. Do you have anythoughts, closing ideas, words

(57:32):
of wisdom, inspiration beyondwhat you've already shared with
us to help us close our sessiontoday together?

Nat Flood (57:40):
I just think you know, anybody listening or
anybody that's like trying tomake yoga thing, you know, like
a daily thing is just that, youknow, movement movement is
medicine, and any type ofmovement is is important. It
doesn't matter where you'redoing it or how you're moving
your body, as long as you aregetting up moving your body
daily. You know, I say to myclients all the time, get the

(58:02):
vitamin D, get the sleep, eatthe food, drink water. And, and,
and that's, that's how we showup. That's all we can do. It's
just it's just every single day.
It's a practice. Yeah, that'sreally

it. That's perfect, Matt. Well, thank you
so much, and I look forward tohaving a chance to connect again
in the future.

Nat Flood (58:24):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Thank you.

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