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September 1, 2025 59 mins

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"Παιδεία found its realization in παιδεραστία." This is how Henri-Irénée Marrou characterizes the relationship between paideia and pederasty. The latter fulfilles the former. Indeed, few things were so distinctively Greek as their love for boys. Thus a close relationship between an older man and an adolescent was, for centuries, the definitive form of education in Greece. Xenophon and Plutarch famously protested that in Sparta, sexual touch between men and boys was forbidden, but modern historians are not so sure. In this episode, Jonathan and Ryan read and discuss "Pederasty in Classical Education," the third chapter of Marrou's A History of Education in Antiquity.


Henri-Irénée Marrou's A History of Education in Antiquity: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780299088149


Xenophon's Constitution of the Spartans: https://cmuntz.hosted.uark.edu/texts/xenophon/constitution-of-the-spartans.html


Plutarch's Instituta Laconica: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/Instituta_Laconica*.html


Paul Cartledge's Spartan Reflections: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780520231245


Michel Foucault's The History of Sexuality: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780679724698


Mary Eberstadt's Primal Screams: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781599475851


Plato's Symposium: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780521295239


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