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Breaking news.
On July 10, 2025, epaAdministrator Lee Zeldin dropped
a bombshell Geoengineering ishappening in American skies.
Those crisscross patternsyou've seen from airplanes
they're not just contrails,they're real and they're
altering our weather.
Your health concerns Validthose strange weather events
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Possibly manufactured.
What was once dismissed as aconspiracy theory is now an
undeniable fact.
But who's behind it and why?
The truth about the weathermanipulation is unfolding and
it's time to pay attention.
Join me as we dive into thestartling reality of
geoengineering and what it meansfor you, your family and the
planet.
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The skies are changing.
Don't miss the story that'srewriting what we thought we
knew about the weather.
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I'm your host, antoinette Lee,the wellness warrior, and today
we're talking aboutgeoengineering.
It's real and it's happeningover American skies.
Guess what?
Mom, your son isn't crazy, yoursister hasn't gone around the
bend, and your health systemsymptoms after seeing airlines
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spray a crisscross pattern inthe sky are real.
Geoengineering has officiallygone from a so-called conspiracy
theory to a frightening factWeather is being engineered and
devastating weather anomaliesmight be manufactured events.
According to the EPA,geoengineering encompasses a
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broad range of activities,including those that
intentionally attempt to coolthe earth or remove certain
gases from the atmosphere.
Gases that trap heat in theatmosphere are often referred to
as greenhouse gases, whichinclude carbon dioxide, methane,
nitrous oxide and fluorinatedgases.
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Geoengineering includes carbondioxide removal, or CDR, through
methods such as direct aircapture and storage, ocean iron
fertilization and oceanalkalinity enhancement.
Marine cloud brightening or MCB, includes adding particles such
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as sea spray to lower theatmosphere near the surface to
increase the reflectivity ofclouds over the ocean.
Other techniques, such ascirrus cloud thinning or CCT, or
space-based methods, have beenfar less researched due to
uncertainty in the processes,high potential costs and they
aren't easily accomplished.
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A subset of geoengineeringactivities intends to cool the
earth by intentionally modifyingthe amount of sunlight reaching
earth's surface.
These activities are referredto as solar geoengineering or
solar radiation modification SRM.
Most proposed solar radiationmodification techniques involve
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adding material to theatmosphere to increase the
amount of incoming sunlightreflected back to space.
While some of these approachesare currently being studied.
The EPA shockingly admits thatnot enough information exists to
fully understand the viability,risks and benefits of each
approach.
The EPA report goes on todescribe the types of solar
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engineering techniques in use,like stratospheric aerosol
injection or SAI.
Sai is adding small reflectiveparticles to the upper
atmosphere or the stratosphereto reflect incoming light.
Sulfur dioxide or SO2, one ofthe types of chemicals used for
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stratospheric aerosol injection,can chemically react in the
stratosphere to form reflectivesulfate aerosols.
Although an industrializedpopulation creates sulfur
dioxide in the atmosphere, theintentional injection of this
chemical comes with huge risks,according to the EPA and others.
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According to the American LungAssociation, the effects of
sulfur dioxide on human lungsare many.
So what are the effects ofsulfur dioxide?
Sulfur dioxide causes a rangeof harmful effects on the lungs,
such as wheezing, shortness ofbreath, heart arrhythmia, chest
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tightness and other problems,especially during exercise or
physical activity.
Rapid breathing during exerciseand working outdoors helps
sulfur dioxide reach the lowerrespiratory tract, as does
breathing through your mouth.
So long-term exposure at highlevels increases respiratory
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symptoms and reduces the abilityof the lungs to function.
The long-term impact onathletes, children and folks who
work outdoors is startling.
Short exposures to peak levelsof sulfur dioxide in the air can
make it difficult for children,seniors and people with asthma
to breathe when they're activeoutdoors.
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Asthma to breathe when they'reactive outdoors Increased risk
of hospital admissions oremergency room visits,
especially among children,seniors and people with asthma.
In my Midwestern community,where there's a high population
of seniors, you can hear EMSsirens one after another as
particulate matter fromgeoengineering airplane spraying
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falls to the ground.
So what are the potential knownimpacts of geoengineering?
Well, the government admitsthat the purpose of solar
geoengineering is to cool theEarth by reflecting more
sunlight back to space.
However, depending on theapproach used, there are some
unintended health andenvironmental consequences that
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require a careful evaluation.
Yet the EPA admits thatscientists aren't entirely sure
about the risks and benefits ofsolar geoengineering because the
data and tools they use tostudy it have some gaps and
uncertainties.
Quote there isn't enoughinformation available to fully
understand the unintendedconsequences of solar
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engineering, according to theEPA, in July 2025.
So why an admission ofgeoengineering matters to you?
The potential health andenvironmental impacts of solar
engineering are staggering.
They include effects on theozone layer.
Adding particles to thestratosphere or the upper
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atmosphere could lead tostratospheric ozone layer
depletion.
However, lower temperaturesfrom reduced sunlight may also
reduce ozone at ground level andits negative health impacts.
Reduced ozone levels as aresult of ozone depletion mean
less protection from the sun'srays and more exposure to UVB
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radiation at the Earth's surface.
Ozone-layered depletionincreases the amount of UVB that
reaches the Earth's surface,and laboratory and
epidemiological or diseasecontrol studies demonstrate that
UVB that reaches the Earth'ssurface and laboratory and
epidemiological or diseasecontrol studies demonstrate that
UVB causes non-melanoma skincancer and plays a significant
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role in malignant melanomadevelopment.
Of the human health effectsfrom sun exposure, melanoma is
the most lethal, causing nearly7,000 deaths annually in the
United States.
In addition, uvb is linked tothe development of cataracts, a
clouding of the eye lens.
So what is the geoengineeringeffect on plants?
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Well, uvb radiation affects thephysiological and developmental
processes of plants.
Indirect changes caused by UVB,such as changes in plant form,
how nutrients are distributedwithin the plant, timing of
developmental phases andsecondary plant metabolism, may
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be more important than thedamaging effects of UVB.
Farmers and gardeners aresounding the alarm.
Bees are vanishing.
Last summer, I watched beesrepeatedly crash into my cabin
and drop dead, a haunting signof trouble.
Experts warn that this declinethreatens our food supply.
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Bees pollinate 70% of theworld's crops, says Dave Goulson
, a bee biologist.
Without them, fruits,vegetables and nuts could
disappear.
Spiking prices and starvationrisk.
Possible culprits Pesticides,habitat loss, even
geoengineering, where chemicalslike silver dioxide used to
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boost rain may poison bees.
Northern hemisphere crop yieldsare already shaky, with farmers
reporting lower harvests.
Backyard growers can fight backby planting bee-friendly
flowers and ditching chemicals.
Every garden counts, insistsbeekeeper Sarah Ellis.
Let's act now.
Our plates and planet depend onit.
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Bees equal food security.
So imagine opening your fridgeto find it empty no apples, no
almonds, no zucchini.
That's the future we'rebarreling toward.
As bee populations plummet.
Farmers, scientists andbackyard growers like me are
witnessing a chilling trend.
Last spring, I stood in myvegetable garden stunned as bees
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smashed into my cabin's walluntil they died.
It's not just my yard.
Bees are disappearing globallyand it's a five alarm fire for
humanity and the earth.
After this short break, we'llexamine the significance of
declining bee populations onyour food and so much more.
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Welcome back to the show wherewe're talking about why you
should care about declining beepopulations.
So why should you care?
Bees aren't just a buzzingannoyance.
They're the backbone of ourfood system.
Like I said, bees pollinate 70%of the world's crop, explains
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Dr Dave Goulson, a renowned beebiologist from the University of
Sussex.
Goulson said without them,staples like berries, tomatoes
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and coffee could vanish.
Picture grocery shelves bare,goulson said, and the dominoes
fall hard.
Bees are vital in the plant andanimal ecosystem.
Acting as nature's mostefficient pollinators, they
support these systems in severalkey ways, creating a ripple
effect that sustainsbiodiversity and life as we know
it.
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For plants, bees are theprimary movers of pollen, the
powdery substance thatfertilizes flowers as they buzz
from bloom to bloom, collectingnectar and pollen for food.
They transfer pollen grainsfrom a flower's male parts, the
anthers, to its female parts,the stigma.
This process, calledpollination, enables plants to
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produce seeds, fruits and newgenerations.
Without bees, many plants likeapples, almonds and wildflowers
would fail to reproduce, leadingto barren landscapes and
shrinking plant diversity.
Animals depend on this plantbounty.
Herbivores, from deer torabbits, rely on bee-pollinated
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vegetation for nourishment.
Fruits and seeds feed birds,bears and small mammals, while
nectar-rich flowers supportother pollinators like
butterflies.
A single beehive can sustain awhole food web, says beekeeper
Sarah Ellis.
Predators in turn thrive onthese plant eaters.
Linking bees to the survival offoxes, hawks and beyond.
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Wetlands and forests stabilizedby bee-pollinated plants,
shelter countless species.
Bees also boost ecosystemresilience.
Thanks to their pollination,diverse plant life prevents soil
erosion, stores carbon andregulates water cycles.
The benefits that cascade toanimals and humans alike Lose.
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Bees and this intricate webunravels.
Plants die off, humans andanimals starve and habitats
collapse.
Bees are small, but they holdup a giant world.
So what's killing the bees?
Pesticides and habitat loss areold news, but a darker theory
is buzzing geoengineered weather.
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The epa, dane wigington,founder of
geoengineeringwatchorg, andothers claim cloud seeding and
geoengineering disperses toxicmetals like silver iodide,
decimating bee pollinations anddisrupting their navigation.
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Cloud seeding sprayingchemicals to boost rain or snow
has government backing.
The National Oceanic andAtmospheric Administration says
quote it's a tool for watermanagement, but critics argue
it's poisoning bees.
In a 2023 interview, a Coloradoofficial boasted we seed clouds
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to ensure snow for our skiindustry.
Yet beekeepers like Steve Ellisreport after seeding my hives
show chemical traces.
Are bees dying because theysense a threat we're ignoring?
They're dropping like flies.
Some say they know something,we don't.
Pesticides like neonicotinoidslinger in pollen are prime
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suspects.
Habitat loss from sprawlingfarms and cities starve them.
This weather modificationtactic sprays chemicals like
silver iodide, aluminum, barium,strontium and more into clouds
to coax rain.
National Oceanic andAtmospheric Administration has
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written tons about this.
Some theorize these heavy metalpoisons bees, disrupting their
navigation and survival.
You can check out all of thesecitations in the show
description.
So science hasn't nailed itdown, but the coincidence is
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eerie.
Bee survival in the northernhemisphere is in danger In 2025,
farmers report patchy fields,patchy yields, almonds are down
15% and apples are erratic.
Backyard growers like me noticefewer pollinated flowers,
meaning smaller harvests.
Without bees, hand pollinationisn't scalable.
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Food scarcity looms Ecosystemsunravel too, with fewer
wildflowers, which means lessbiodiversity, threatening
everything from birds to bears.
But there's hope.
Backyard growers can turn thetide.
Plant bee magnets like lavender, sunflower and clover diverse
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blooms that feed them year-round.
However, don't create a worseproblem by choosing non-native
pollinators.
Search for a list ofpollinator-attracting plants
that are native to your area.
Planting a non-native plantspecies could cause havoc to
your ecosystem.
Non-native plants tend to droptheir seeds before native plants
.
This allows the non-nativeplant to become more established
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in siphoning light, nutrientsand water and other resources
from the native plants.
This process is how anon-native plant becomes an
invasive species or an invasiveplant.
So choose your plants carefully.
Make sure that you're skippingpesticides.
Go organic.
Every garden counts, saysbeekeeper Sarah Ellis, who's
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nursed hives back to health withflower-rich yards, water
sources and shade.
Help your bees survive too.
It's a small step, but if weall pitch in, we can save the
bees and ourselves.
Let's buzz into action.
The future is too sweet to lose.
So let's talk aboutgeoengineering's effects on
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aquatic ecosystems.
Phytoplankton form thefoundation of aquatic food.
Phytoplankton productivity islimited to the upper layer of
the water column, where there'ssufficient sunlight to support
productivity.
Exposure to solar UVB radiationis shown to affect
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phytoplankton, resulting inreduced survival rates for these
organisms.
Scientists have demonstrated adirect reduction in
phytoplankton production due toozone depletion-related
increases in UVB.
Uvb radiation is found to causedamage to the early
developmental stages of fish,shrimp, crab, amphibians and
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other aquatic animals.
The most severe effects aredecreased reproduction activity
or capacity and impaired levelof development.
Small increases in UVB exposurecould result in population
reductions for small aquaticorganisms, which has negative
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implications for the wholeaquatic food chain.
Could geoengineering be thecause of fewer fish rather than
overfishing?
Who knows Ecosystem health andcrop yields?
Adding sulfur to the atmosphereincreases the risk of acid rain,
deposits of sulfur on thesurface and worsened soil
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acidity, which could negativelyimpact food production.
Decreased sunlight could alsonegatively impact the ecosystem
and agricultural productivity.
Acid rain is any form ofprecipitation with acidic
components, such as sulfuric ornitric acid, that falls to the
ground from the atmosphere inwet or dry forms.
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This can include rain, snow,fog, hail or even dust that's
acidic.
According to Oklahoma StateUniversity's Division of
Agricultural Sciences andNatural Resources, acidic soil
is devastating to farms andbackyard growers.
Toxic levels of aluminum harmthe crop by what's called root
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pruning.
Root pruning occurs when asmall amount of aluminum in the
soil over what is normal causesthe roots of most plants to
either deteriorate or stopgrowing.
As a result, the plants areunable to absorb water and
nutrients.
Normally, they'll appearstunted and exhibit nutrient
deficiency symptoms, especiallyphosphorus deficiency.
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The final effect is eithercomplete crop failure or
significant yield loss.
Often, the field will appear tobe under greater stress from
pests such as weeds because ofthe poor condition of the crop.
This phenomenon puts foodproduction at risk.
Adding particles to thestratosphere or upper atmosphere
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can alter hydrological cycles,leading to changes in the amount
of rainfall and drought inspecific regions.
According to the NationalOceanic and Atmospheric
Administration, noaa, thehydrologic cycle involves the
continuous circulation of waterin the Earth's atmosphere system
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.
At its core, the water cycle isthe motion of the water from
the ground to the atmosphere andback again.
Of the many processes involvedin the hydrologic cycle, the
most important are evaporation,transpiration, condensation,
precipitation and runoff.
The threat to food productionas a result of geoengineering
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isn't scary enough for you, huh?
In this case, the health risksto humans and animals are
equally alarming.
Some particles in thestratosphere or upper atmosphere
eventually come down to Earth'ssurface, where they can
contribute to diverse or adversehealth implications.
Geoengineered particulatematters impact your health.
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The size of particles, orparticulate matter PM for short
is directly linked to theirpotential for causing health
problems, says the EPA.
Small particles less than 10micrometers in diameter pose the
most significant problemsbecause they get deep into your
lungs and some may even get intoyour bloodstream.
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Exposure to such particles canaffect both your lungs and your
heart.
Numerous scientific studieshave linked particle pollution
exposure to a variety ofproblems, including premature
death in people with heart orlung disease, non-fatal heart
attacks, irregular heartbeat,aggravated asthma, decreased
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lung function, increasedrespiratory symptoms such as
irritation of the airways,coughing or difficulty breathing
.
People with heart or lungdiseases.
Children, seniors, people ofcolor and low-income households
are the most likely to beaffected by particle pollution
exposure, either because they'remore sensitive or may have
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higher exposures.
For real-time information onyour location's air quality, you
can go to airnowgov, a websiteoperated by the EPA and various
federal, us, state andinternational partners like
Canada and Mexico.
Airnow can help you monitor airquality near you and protect
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yourself and your family fromelevated levels of particulate
matter.
Just enter your zip code andthe website provides your
current air quality.
So let's talk about theenvironmental effects of
geoengineered particulate matter.
Fine particles PM2.5, are theleading cause of reduced
visibility or haze in parts ofthe United States, including
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many of the treasured nationalparks and wilderness areas.
It's why places in the MountainWest, like Northern Colorado,
the Front Range it's called,with its spectacular views of
Rocky Mountain National Park'sfoothills, where I used to live
and had a dramatic change intheir skyline.
Before 2020, the front lingeboasted skies as blue as the
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Ham's beer can, whose tagline isfirst brewed in 1865 in
Minnesota the land of sky, bluewaters.
Colorado's front range, likeMinnesota, california and North
Carolina, for example, braggedabout its Carolina blue skies
and bluebird days, but no more.
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Before 2020, colorado's frontrange was noted for its more
than 300 days of sunshine eachyear.
Today, you can rarely see thefoothills and the hazy skies
look more like London's fog.
In a 2023 interview, a Coloradoofficial boasted we seed clouds
to ensure snow for our skiindustry.
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But are entities taking ageoengineering gamble with
humanity and the planet?
Here's geoengineering'senvironmental damage.
Particles can be carried overlong distances by wind and then
settle on the ground or in thewater, depending on their
chemical composition.
The effects of this settlingmight include making lakes and
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streams more acidic, changingthe nutrient balance in coastal
waters and large river basins,depleting the nutrients in soil,
damaging sensitive forests andfarm crops, affecting the
diversity of ecosystems,contributing to acid rain
effects and you don't have totake my word for it.
All, all of the citations,everything that I'm quoting and
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listing will be in the citationlist in the show description.
Geoengineering's damage toproperty and materials is pretty
incredible.
Particulate matter can stainand damage stone and other
materials, including your home,your office and culturally
important objects such asstatues and monuments, and
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culturally important objectssuch as statues and monuments.
Some of these effects arerelated to the acid rain effects
on materials, and some of themare natural acid rain or acid
rain produced just fromindustrial life, and others are
acid rain produced bygeoengineering.
So why does geoengineeredparticulate matters impact your
health?
Let's unpack what the healtheffects are you might experience
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as a result of particulateexposure and simple measures you
can take to reduce your risk.
Particulate exposure is amixture of microscopic solids
and liquid droplets suspended inair.
In air, this pollution, alsoknown as particulate matter, is
made up of several components,including gases such as nitrates
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and sulfates, organic chemicals, metals, soils or dust
particles and allergens such asfragments of pollen or mold
spores.
Small particles less than 10micrometers in diameter pose the
most significant problems.
The size of particles isdirectly linked to their
potential for causing healthproblems.
Exposure to such particles canaffect both your lungs and your
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heart.
Larger particles are lessconcerning, although they can
irritate your eyes, nose andthroat.
Small particles of concern,such as those found in wildfire
smoke and geoengineering haze,which are 2.5 micrometers in
diameter or less, and the coarseparticles such as those found
in windblown dust, which havediameters of 2.5 to 10
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micrometers, are also a concern.
So who is at risk fromgeoengineered particulate matter
?
Well, people with heart or lungdisease, seniors and children
are considered at greater riskfor particulate matter exposure,
especially when they'rephysically active.
Exercise, working outdoors andother physical activities cause
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people to breathe faster andmore deeply and to take more
particles into their lungs.
People with heart or lungdisease, such as coronary artery
disease, congestive heartfailure and asthma, or chronic
obstructive pulmonary disease,copd, are at an increased risk
because particles can aggravatethese diseases.
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People with diabetes may alsobe at an increased risk,
possibly because they're morelikely to have an underlying
heart disease.
Seniors are at an increasedrisk, possibly because they're
more likely to have anunderlying heart disease.
Seniors are at an increasedrisk, possibly because they have
undiagnosed heart or lungdisease or diabetes.
Many studies show that whenparticulate matter levels are
higher, seniors are more likelyto be hospitalized and some may
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die of aggravated heart or lungdisease.
Children are likely atincreased risk for several
reasons their lungs are stilldeveloping, they spend more time
at high activity levels andthey are more likely to have
asthma or acute respiratorydiseases, which can be
aggravated when particulatelevels are high.
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So how does geoengineeredparticulate matters affect your
health?
In the long and short term?
Particulate matter exposure canlead to a variety of health
effects.
For example, numerous studieslink particulate levels to
increased hospital admissionsand emergency room visits, and
even to death from heart or lungdisease.
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Both long term and short termparticulate matter exposures are
linked to health problems.
Long-term exposure, such asthat experienced by people
living for many years with highparticulate matter levels, is
associated with problems such asreduced lung function, the
development of chronicbronchitis and even premature
death.
Short-term exposure to highparticulate matter levels for
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hours or days can aggravate lungdisease, causing asthma attacks
and acute bronchitis.
It may also increasesusceptibility to respiratory
infections.
For people with heart disease,short-term exposures are linked
to heart attacks, arrhythmias oreven an irregular heartbeat or
an irregular heartbeat.
So geoengineered particulatematter exposures can have
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symptoms, but sometimes you maynot feel the symptoms.
Even if you're healthy, you mayexperience temporary symptoms
such as irritation of the eyes,nose and throat, coughing,
phlegm, chest tightness andshortness of breath.
If you have lung disease, youmay not be able to breathe as
deeply or vigorously as normaland you may experience coughing,
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chest discomfort, wheezing,shortness of breath and unusual
fatigue.
If you have any of thesesymptoms, reduce your exposure
to particulate matter and followyour doctor's advice.
Contact your doctor if symptomspersist or worsen.
If you have asthma, carefullyfollow your asthma management
plan when particulate matterlevels are high.
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If you have heart disease,particulate matter exposure can
cause serious problems in ashort period even heart attacks
with no warning signs.
So don't assume that you'resafe just because you don't have
any symptoms.
Symptoms such as chest pain ortightness, palpitations,
shortness of breath or unusualfatigue may indicate a serious
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problem.
If you have any of thesesymptoms, follow your doctor's
advice.
So here's how to protectyourself from geoengineered
particulate matter.
Your chances of being affectedby particulate matter increase
the more strenuous the activityand the longer you're active
outdoors.
If your activity involvesprolonged or heavy exertion,
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reduce your activity time orsubstitute another activity that
involves less exertion.
Go for a walk instead of a jog,for example.
Plan outdoor activities fordays when particulate levels are
lower and use an indoor airpurifier with a HEPA filter.
We have shark air purifierswith HEPA filters in every major
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room in our home.
So here's the EPA's legalauthorities controlling solar
engineering.
Here's where things get reallyscary.
The EPA says it's doingeverything within its authority
to identify and track anypotential solar geoengineering
or solar radiation modificationactivities within the United
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States.
For example, on April 15, 2025,epa's Office of Air Radiation,
oar sent a request to thestartup company called Make
Sunsets, which claims to begeoengineering the planet by
releasing balloons filled withsulfur dioxide and selling
cooling credits.
As of May 2025, make Sunsetsreported releasing about 0.1
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tons of sulfur dioxide into thestratosphere.
Although the amount of sulfurdioxide is extraordinarily low
the EPA extraordinarily low,according to what Make Sunsets
says it's releasing.
The EPA is conducting aninternal review of current
authorities that could be usedto stop this activity,
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particularly if it escalatessignificantly.
But clearly, make Sunsets isn'tthe only company geoengineering
the weather.
Alternatively, the EPA isstudying whether new authorities
would be needed from Congressor whether another agency should
take the lead in regulating andenforcing against such
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activities.
In addition, any personsplanning to engage in solar
geoengineering activities mustresult in the disposition of
material.
That may result in thedisposition of material into
ocean waters or into sea ice mayneed to submit a permit, but
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the EPA, under the MarineProtection, research and
Sanctuaries Act, the MPRSA,based on multiple factors such
as the location and type ofdisposition, can approve your
permit.
But as of July 2025, the EPAhas issued only one NPRSA permit
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for a marine carbon dioxideremoval research project.
These approaches have thepotential to impact marine
environments, according to theEPA.
So what's the government toimpact marine environments,
according to the EPA?
So what's the government?
So what does the US governmentdo to track geoengineering?
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Well, congress hasn't passedany laws solely related to solar
geoengineering, though severallaws are relevant.
In other words, geoengineeringmay or may not be legal.
For example, under theauthority of the Weather
Modification Act, the WMRA of1972, all persons intending to
engage in weather modificationactivities in the United States
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are required to provide a reportto NOAA at least 10 days prior
to undertaking the activity.
However, only one permit is onfile since 1972.
Under Part 908.3 of Title 15 ofthe Code, federal Regulations
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reporting requirements forweather modification encompass
solar geoengineering activitiesmodifying the solar radiation
exchange of the earth or cloudsthrough the release of gases,
dust, liquids or aerosols intothe atmosphere.
While NOAA doesn't regulateweather modification activities,
it does track them through theWMRA reporting requirements.
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A public database of NOAAweather modification reports can
be viewed using the link in theshow description.
In 2022, crongerst directed theOffice of Science and Technology
Policy, with support from NOAAand in coordination with the
National Science Foundation andthe Department of Energy, to
develop a five-year federalresearch plan for solar and
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other rapid climateinterventions.
The resulting 2023 Bidenadministration report to
Congress concluded that thedevelopment of a federal
research program on solargeoengineering would help to
better inform decisions on thepotential risks and benefits and
help prepare for possibledeployment by other public or
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private actors.
To be clear, geoengineering ishappening, but in 2023, our
government decided that itshould begin studying the impact
of solar geoengineering.
The report also emphasized thatany solar geoengineering
research program shouldencompass both the scientific
dimensions of solargeoengineering as well as the
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potential impacts on humanhealth and well-being,
ecosystems and internationalengagement.
Our neighbors may not like thefact that we're geoengineering
American skies.
Talk about putting the cartbefore the horse.
Current federal research isdesigned to improve the ability
to observe current conditions inthe atmosphere and the
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understanding of the potentialphysical impacts of solar
geoengineering.
The US government is notengaged in any form of outdoor
testing, small-scale experimentsdesigned to study injection
technologies or large-scaledevelopment, the intentional use
of solar geoengineering to coolthe earth.
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According to the EPA, currentfederal research activities
should not be interpreted asendorsement of the
implementation of solargeoengineering.
The EPA continued.
In other words, although EPAAdministrator Lee Zeldin and the
EPA's website confirms whatgeoengineering is, that it's
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happening in the skies over theUS and that there are known
health and environmental hazardsto cloud seeding in
geoengineering, it's stillunclear whether governmental,
commercial and possibly foreignentities are rapidly
manipulating the weather overAmerica daily.
The EPA's pathetic attempt toaddress the constant
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geoengineering airplane sprayand our skies was to scapegoat a
Silicon Valley startup companycalled Make Sunsets.
But Make Sunsets activities arevery small scale.
It also doesn't account for thehundreds of thousands of
flights logged by ordinarycitizens using flight tracking
apps to catalog unspecifiedairplanes, american and
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international commercialairplanes and private planes
spraying the skies over theircommunities every day.
However, the groundswell ofconcern from ordinary citizens
made the growing number ofstates who have passed
legislation banninggeoengineering and weather
modification activities possible.
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Tennessee passed legislationbanning geoengineering and
weather modification activitieseffective July 1st 2024.
The law prohibits theintentional release of chemicals
or substances into theatmosphere to affect weather or
sunlight intensity.
Driven partly by concerns overchemtrails and geoengineering,
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florida passed a law, effectiveJuly 1st 2025, banning
geoengineering and weathermodification, including cloud
seeding, which fines up to$100,000 per violation.
The bill, sb 36, was signed byGovernor Ron DeSantis and
repeals prior regulationsallowing weather modification.
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As early as 2025, at least 30states have introduced or are
considering legislation toprohibit geoengineering, weather
modification or activitiesassociated with chemtrails and
geoengineering.
These states include Arizona,where legislation passed the
state senate but is not yet law.
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Kentucky, senate bill 62 andhouse bill 22 were introduced in
2025 to ban geoengineering,with penalties including fines
and felony charges.
Iowa, house file 191 and senatefile 142 proposed bans on
geoengineering and weathermodification, with the Senate
version including felonypenalties.
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In Louisiana, a bill passed thestate house in 2025 requiring
the Department of EnvironmentalQuality to record chemtrail
sightings, but it awaits Senateapproval.
In Alabama, a legislativecommittee discussed a similar
bill in 2025.
Illinois, minnesota, newHampshire, pennsylvania, rhode
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Island and South Dakota thesestates introduced or previewed
anti-general engineering billsin 2024 or 2025, but none have
passed.
Up to 31 states have proposedsuch legislation, including
Michigan and others notindividually named in the
provided sources.
Though specific bill statutesremain unclear, there's
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historical precedentPennsylvania, maryland and West
Virginia since the 1960s, wherelaws were enacted to restrict
weather modification.
That's our historicalprecedence.
On July 5th 2025,representative Marjorie Taylor
Greene sponsored a bill withco-sponsor Tim Burkett.
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In summary, the bill quoteprohibits the injection, release
or dispersion of chemicals orsubstances into the atmosphere
for the express purpose ofaltering weather temperature,
climate or sunlight intensity.
It would be a felony offense,green writes.
But what the states arenoticing is that, even though in
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some states there are laws,there's no way to enforce these
laws.
So, in conclusion, therevelation of geoengineering in
America's skies is a wake-upcall.
Epa Administrator Lee Zeldin'sadmission on July 10, 2025,
confirms that weathermanipulation is real, raising
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urgent questions about healthrisks, environmental damage and
who's pulling the strings?
Because we still don't know.
From sulfur dioxide's impact onlungs to acid rain threatening
crops, the stakes are high.
Yet the EPA admitsuncertainties in understanding
geoengineering's fullconsequences.
As the government scrambles totrack these activities, we must
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demand transparency andaccountability.
Are we cooling the planet orgambling with our future?
Stay vigilant.
Our health, ecosystems and foodsecurity depend on it.
Check airnowgov to monitor airquality and protect yourself
from particulate matter.
The truth is out.
Geoengineering is happening andit's time to act.
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