August 4, 2025 • 46 mins
Imagine finding pain relief from the palm of your hand - no pills, no procedures, just enhanced blood flow delivering healing nutrients throughout your body. This groundbreaking approach to chronic pain is transforming lives through a remarkably simple technology.
Danielle Forsgren, the dynamic co-founder of AVACEN Medical, reveals how their FDA-cleared devices are reshaping pain management by enhancing microcirculation through a combination of vacuum pressure and heat therapy. The technology works by targeting arterial venous anastomosis points in the palm, essentially creating a "body hack" that maintains open blood vessels and promotes improved circulation throughout the entire system.
The conversation explores how 80% of people over age 40 suffer from compromised microcirculation, contributing to chronic conditions from arthritis to migraines. Danielle shares powerful success stories, including her sister who found relief from 25 years of debilitating migraines after just minutes using the device. Beyond pain management, users report remarkable "side benefits" - improved skin appearance, faster hair and nail growth, enhanced sleep quality, and increased vitality.
Particularly poignant is the discussion about veterans suffering from musculoskeletal pain. Modern warfighters carry loads exceeding 88 pounds - significantly heavier than medieval knights' armor - contributing to widespread chronic pain among service members. The AVACEN device offers them a non-pharmaceutical alternative through the VA healthcare system.
With over 30 million treatments administered and zero adverse events reported, this technology represents a promising frontier in pain management. Whether you're battling chronic pain, seeking wellness optimization, or supporting someone in pain, this episode delivers invaluable insights into a revolutionary approach that's empowering people to reclaim their vitality. Listen now to discover how enhanced microcirculation could transform your health journey.
DISCLAIMER: The information is not medical advice and should not be treated as such. Always consult your physician or healthcare professional before pursuing any health-related procedure or activity.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
new normal, big, avid medicine medicals.
Non-invasive devices aretransforming pain management by
boosting microcirculationthrough the palm of your hand,
offering drug-free relief forconditions like arthritis,
fibromyalgia and migraines.
Veterans and wellnessenthusiasts alike praise its
impact, with one user on xsaying my arthritis pain dropped
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significantly after two weeks.
Avacyn's approach is redefiningholistic health, making it
accessible at home or in clinics, empowering people to reclaim
their vitality using heattherapy and negative pressure.
The Avacyn treatment methodenhances blood flow, delivering
oxygen and nutrients to tissueswhile reducing pain and
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inflammation.
Avacyn co-founder, danielleForsgren, and I had a chat about
this innovative pain managementtechnique with bonus content
for the veteran community.
Hi friends, welcome to the NewNormal, big Life podcast.
We bring you natural news andstories about nature that we
hope will inspire you to getoutside and adventure, along
with a step-by-step plan to helpyou practice what you've
(01:05):
learned and create your own newnormal and live the biggest life
you can dream.
I'm your host, antoinette Lee,the Wellness Warrior.
Today, I'm joined by anincredible and interesting guest
, danielle Forsgren,motivational speaker, author,
facilitator and co-founder ofAvazin Medical, where you can
find pain relief from the palmof your hand, and Legally Diva,
(01:28):
where Danielle handpicks thehottest trends and must-haves in
health, beauty and fashion.
Just for you.
We're talking about managingchronic pain through Avacyn
Medical's microcirculationtechniques.
Imagine a world where chronicpain, whether from arthritis,
lupus, fibromyalgia or migraines, is managed without pills or
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invasive procedures, right fromthe comfort of your home.
Avacyn's technology enhancesbird flow, delivering oxygen and
nutrients to tissues whilereducing pain and inflammation.
This revolutionary approach,known as the Avacyn Treatment
Method, or ATM, is reshaping howwe address chronic pain and
wellness, offering a drug-free,non-invasive solution that's
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both safe and effective.
Before we learn about Avacynand how microcirculation works,
it's important to understand thehealthcare challenges these
devices solve.
Danielle, welcome to New NormalBig Life.
What healthcare channel was theAvacyn treatment method
designed to solve?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Wow, okay, loaded question right off the bat,
let's go.
I can say that we are FDAcleared for aches, pain strains,
overall muscular relaxation andwidespread pain for arthritis,
but we have found about 38fields of uses of other chronic
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illnesses and other things,because when you have great
microcirculation you have theholy grail for longevity and we
have a lot of side benefits whenyou use the Avacyn.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Can you tell me more about the side benefits,
especially the longevity piece?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, well, so here's the sad news.
We'll do that one first.
Everyone over the age of 40,80% of us have compromised
microcirculation.
Okay, so meaning you have ahundred thousand miles of
capillaries head to toe, even inyour brain.
So wherever you have blood, thecapillaries are the chain to
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keep the blood flowing head totoe.
And that's why, like on your40th birthday, you need reading
glasses.
I use these because of thecomputer, so these are blue
light, but I have really greateyesight.
Actually, my sister, who's beenusing the Abyssin for 14 years,
she actually tracked hereyesight and she went from a
1.75 down to 20, 20.
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Because inflammation iseverywhere.
So we are stopping theinflammation by using the
Abyssin at least twice a day,morning and night.
We say left at light, right atnight, because the left helps
open up the lymphatic drainage.
So you want to use the leftfirst, but I use it four times a
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day without fail, because ofthe side benefits, and one of
them I can tell you is that webring more oxygen, nutrients and
collagen to the skin and ittakes about a week to notice.
But if you do two hours a day,so I break it up into 30 minutes
, so I'll do 30 minutes in themorning, 30 minutes after dinner
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and like an hour when I'm bingewatching my new Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, speaking of collagen, I noticed the glow in
your face.
Do you attribute that to Avacyn?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Absolutely, and good skincare.
I'm going to be 66 in two weeks.
I don't feel it, and I havepeople stopping and asking me
about my skin all the time.
So I'm an ambassador for askincare line it's actually skin
repair and a plant-based stemcell that I absolutely adore Dr
(05:13):
Nathan Newman's stem and I don'treally give shout outs to a lot
of product, but the ones that Ilove I always like to
collaborate with, and that's thething about Avacyn is we love
to collaborate with goodpartners who are the same tribe
and who are doing the samethings that we like to do
helping people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh, that's beautiful, and I love hearing about new
products.
I'm actually going to look thatup, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I will send you a link, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Perfect and I'll drop that in the show description.
I love it.
Before we dive into the heartof the matter, let's talk about
the prevalence of chronic painin the United States.
Based on recent data,approximately 51 million US
adults 29, rather, 20% of theadult population experienced
chronic patient pain in 2021.
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Chronic pain is defined as painlasting three months or more.
According to the NationalHealth Interview Surveys, or
NHIS, conducted by the CDC.
Of these, about 17 millionadults, or a little over 6%,
suffer from high-impact chronicpain, which significantly limits
daily activities such as workor self-care.
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In 2023, the prevalenceslightly increased, with 24% of
adults reporting chronic painand more than 8% around 21
million experiencing high impactchronic pain.
These figures highlight chronicpain as a major public health
issue, surpassing conditionslike diabetes, depression and
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high blood pressure incidents.
Certain groups face higherrates of chronic pain, like
women.
We experience it at 26% of thefemale population, versus 22%
for men.
Seniors experience chronic painat 36% if you're 65 and older,
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and 30% of people living inpoverty, living in rural areas
or with public health insuranceexperience chronic pain.
Back pain at 41% and hip, kneeor foot pain at 41% are the most
common types, often linked toarthritis, nerve damage or old
injuries.
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Here's the prevalence globally.
Globally, estimates suggestthat at least 10% of the world's
population, or approximately780 million people, suffer from
chronic pain.
Some sources, including the USPain Foundation, estimate this
figure could be as high as 1.5billion people worldwide.
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But here's what's interestingMore people are seeking natural
ways to manage their pain.
Let's explore why.
First, we're going to talkabout chronic pain in the
veteran community, which is nearand dear to my heart because
I'm an 11-year Army veteran.
Us veterans experience chronicpain at significantly higher
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rates than the generalpopulation, largely due to
combat-related injuries,musculoskeletal issues and
associated with comorbidities.
Comorbidities means thesimultaneous presence of two or
more diseases or medicalconditions in a person.
Us veterans serving inoperation iraqi freedom, oif,
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operation enduring freedom, oefand operation new dawn ond often
carry equipment loads thatweigh more than a medieval
knight's armor.
Doing oif, oef and ond and OND,us soldiers, and particularly
infantrymen, carry heavy combatloads due to the demands of
counterinsurgency operations,urban warfare and prolonged
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patrols in harsh environments.
According to a 2018 articlefrom War History Online, the
average combat load for a UScombat soldier in the mid 2000s
often exceeded 88 pounds andcould reach up to 120 pounds for
extended missions.
This load included body armorthe interceptor body armor or
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iba, used widely during oif andoef, weighed approximately 30
pounds, with front, back sideand additional neck and shoulder
and groin pads.
Later, symptoms like improvedouter tactical arrest or OITV,
added a slightly heavier weight.
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Doing OIF, oef and OND, ussoldiers, and particularly
infantrymen, carry heavy combatloads due to the demands of
counterinsurgency operations,urban warfare and prolonged
patrols in harsh environments.
According to a 2018 articlefrom War History Online, the
average combat load for a UScombat soldier in the mid-2000s
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often exceeded 88 pounds andcould reach up to 120 pounds for
extended missions.
This load included body armorthe interceptor body armor or
IBA, used widely during OIF andOEF, weighed approximately 30
pounds, with front back sideplates and additional neck and
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shoulder and groin pads.
Later, systems like improvedouter tactical vest or OITV,
added similar or slightlyheavier weight.
Weapons and ammunition an M4rifle with 7 to 8 pounds plus 6
to 7 magazines about a poundeach, added roughly 15 pounds.
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Additional gear, like the loadincluded the individual first
aid equip, ifak, which is one totwo pounds.
Hydration systems like acamelback up to seven pounds
when full grenades.
Radios, batteries, night visiongoggles two pounds there and
other mission critical itemslike the fighting load carrier
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for extra ammo, critical itemslike the fighting load carrier
for extra ammo, uniform andaccessories.
All that added weight.
The army combat uniform, combatboots and other gear like
rigorous belt patrol cap addedanother 10 to 15 pounds.
Then there's specializedequipment for specific roles,
such as turret gunners, andadditional protective gear like
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the Quad Guard 4 ormission-specific equipment like
breaching tools and extramunitions could push loads
towards 100 to 130 pounds forlong patrols.
A 2006 House Armed ServicesCommittee hearing noted that the
heavy weight of equipment,particularly on up-armored
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vehicles and body armor,increased risks like vehicle
rollovers and physical straincontributing to injuries in
extreme heat and under overuneven terrain, led to
significant musculoskeletalissues, with 50 percent of
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combat wounds and oif and oafbeing musculoskeletal extremity
injuries, many made worse byheavy loads.
Let's look at the medievalknights armor versus the modern
warfighter.
Medieval knights, particularlyfrom the 14th to 16th centuries,
wore full plate armor designedfor combat, which was
surprisingly lighter than modernmilitary loads.
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In many cases, records andstudies of surviving armor
indicate full plate armor.
A complete suit of latemedieval plate armor for a
knight in the 15th centurytypically weighed 40 pounds to
55 pounds for high qualitytailored suits used by mounted
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knights.
This included the helmet,breastplate, cauldrons,
gauntlets and chainmailcomponents.
They also had additional gear.
Knights carried weapons likethe long sword two to four
pounds and shield five to tenpounds, and sometimes the lance,
which is five to ten pounds,bringing the total combat load
around 50 to 70 pounds.
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For a fully equipped knight onfoot, the average combat load
for OIF, oef and OND soldierswas 88 to 100 pounds,
significantly exceeds thetypical weight of a medieval
knight at 50 to 70 pounds.
So why this matters for chronicpain?
When we come back, we'll take alook at it.
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World events are constantlyteaching everyone some very
painful lessons Without warning.
Everything we take for grantedcan suddenly fail, and if you're
not prepared in advance, youreally don't have a chance.
The fact is, the modern worldruns on a just-in-time supply
schedule.
Even the biggest grocery storescan carry only enough food for
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a few days worth of normalshopping.
So when disaster strikes andchaos ensues at your local
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If you don't have emergencyfood and gear stockpiled in
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So why this matters?
For chronic pain, the excessiveweight of modern military
equipment compared to therelatively lighter medieval
knight's armor has significanthealth complications for
veterans.
The VA's musculoskeletaldiagnosis cohort found that 5.2
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million veterans hadmusculoskeletal diagnoses, many
linked to heavy loads carriedduring OIF, oef and OND.
The VA's focus onnon-pharmacological treatments,
like the Avacyn treatment method, aligns with veterans' needs
for drug-free pain relief.
Avacyn's microcirculationtherapy, which enhances blood
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flow to reduce pain, has beenintegrated into VA programs,
with testimonies like a veteransaying the anxiety and muscle
tension just melted away.
This underscores the importanceof innovations like Avacyn's
non-invasive therapy, whichoffers a natural, effective
solution for managing veterans'chronic pain without the risk of
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opioids.
So why are more people seekingnatural pain management?
When we come back from thisshort break, we'll discuss it
Before we cover the next topicin this episode.
I want to introduce you withwhat I like to call a micro
story about an adventure that Ihave had.
The adventure, sports lifestyleand my deep connection to
nature is essential for my goodhealth.
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So here's the story.
It was my second year targetingsmallmouth bass and I did
pretty well on the first year.
But on my second year this year, I was off to a slow start and
rather than getting upset aboutnot catching fish because my guy
Matt and I compete for biggestfish, first fish in most species
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caught that day so rather thansulk, I decided I would work on
my kayak fishing skills basicand advanced skills like paddle
control, rod control and usingthe net.
So I focused on these skillscasting one-handed, which is
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sometimes called the kayaker'scast, casting one-handed exactly
where I wanted my bait to land,and I got really good at that.
Then we went out on anothertrip and I landed the biggest
fish of the day.
I did that.
I hope this inspires you to getoutside and adventure alone or
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with those you love.
Now back to the high prevalenceof chronic pain, to figure out
why people are making this shifttowards natural pain management
.
The high prevalence of chronicpain, combined with the opioid
crisis, drives the shift towardsnatural pain management.
The high prevalence of chronicpain combined with the opioid
crisis drives the shift towardsnatural pain management.
The risk of addiction 7 to 11%of chronic pain patients develop
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opioid abuse disorder and theyhave limited long-term efficacy
on opioids.
Long-term, there's only a 30%pain reduction.
This has fueled a mistrust inpharmacological solutions.
I personally suffer from chronicpain after sustaining a
traumatic brain injury andbroken back during my 11 years
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of service in the army.
I have arthritis from my neckto my tailbone and in both knees
.
However, the only time that Itake pain medication is when the
pain is so severe that it feelsunmanageable using natural
remedies, and that rarelyhappens.
Integrative therapies likeacupuncture, yoga, meditation
and breath work and physicaltherapy are also increasingly
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adopted, with 77% ofchiropractic care recipients
reporting that it has been avery effective treatment tool.
Chronic pain affects 51 to 60million Americans and 780
million to 1.5 billion peopleglobally with significant
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physical, mental and economictools.
Opioids dominate painmanagement in the US and much of
the developed world to theirpotency, but the risks evidenced
by 81,000 US deaths and 480,000global deaths annually have
fueled a shift toward naturalalternatives.
Innovations like Avacyn'smicrocirculation therapy,
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alongside growing awareness ofopioid, opioid limitations and
holistic health trends areempowering patients to seek
safer, more sustainable painrelief options.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So, speaking of the veteran community, can a veteran
veteran, owned for 18 years andalso Native American, purchased
and okayed and cleared in lessthan seven days, which is
unheard of, because we engagethe parasympathetic, which is
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rest, restore, relax and fightor flight is the sympathetic.
We engage the parasympatheticand that's part of the overall
muscular relaxation, fdaclearance.
They said can you help ourveterans?
And so Tom Muehlbauer, who wasour inventor and CEO, co-founder
and, fyi, my husband of 35years, there's that, we can't
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forget that and so he was anarmy vet, my dad was in the
service, he was Navy MasterChief for 25 years and then his
dad a Marine.
We've always tried to supportand give back to our veteran
community.
So if you are service, if yougo to the va hospital or c-box,
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you can go to your pt or your um, your pain doc, and ask them to
look up the gsa code, avacyn,and they hopefully can order it.
Now they might just give youknow.
We might send you one for justa month or something.
It depends on every VA, okay,so the challenge is, if you've
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been to one VA, you've been toone VA because everything is run
differently.
So currently we are cleared andwe have a GSA code which I will
send you, so you might want topop that in there too, because
we want to help our vets andwe're finding that the ones who
are getting it through arehaving incredible results.
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They're sleeping better, theirpain's going away, they're
getting off their pain medsbecause that's the whole thing
and I really believe in my heartthat we can stop these suicides
that are happening.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and the other thing that they're not talking
about is the spouses who arealso committing suicide because
they don't want to be outwithout their soulmate.
So it's a double hit.
It's horrible and we can help,and so I'm tenacious as heck and
I'm going to get it done.
I don't know.
You know I'm pulling everystring.
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I know and you know there's alot of VAs out there and they
want to help people, but they'recompletely exhausted.
The doctors are exhausted, thenurses and the staff is
exhausted.
I'm hoping things are going tobe streamlined.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, thank you and your family for your legacy of
service to the country and allthe veterans in your family,
both yours and your husband's.
I really appreciate that as aveteran and a person who comes
from a legacy veteran family aswell.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Thank you for your service and your family's
service.
People don't understand thatwhen they're keeping us safe
everything else their familyreally takes a hit.
And the cool thing about ourdevice is a family device.
I have two and a half year oldsusing our device up to 102,
because it's really simple.
It's dry, heat, a vacuum andyour body.
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So you know we've had over 30million treatments and not one
adverse event reported becausewe're that easy to use.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's amazing, because there are so what the
pharmaceutical industry likes tocall side effects, but they're
basically the effects of themedication.
I cringe, I cringe, I cringe,right.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So I'm eating dinner, I'm watching TV and I'm seeing
one of those ads and then the 2million things that can happen,
including cancer and death, andI'm like, are you kidding me
right now?
What's happening?
And you know, here's the deal.
87% of people who are on medsdon't want to be and they're
looking for another option.
We are that option.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So tell us about Avacyn Medical's
microcirculation solution tochronic pain.
How does it work?
How does it affect the body?
What can we expect when we useit?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, so mechanism of action.
So it's pretty cool.
It's very simple.
Our new gold one, very simple,our new gold one.
This is the GXL.
Very sexy, and it matches myBuddha girl bracelets.
I said make me a color likethat.
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It took three months to getthis color.
So this is our GXL and it'slaunching August 11th.
You put a mitt on and you putyour hand in here, and it's
reusable up to a hundred times.
So we don't want to make moneyon mitts, we just want you to
use one, because your hand hasoils in it.
And so you put your hand inthere, you press a button and
you decide what time you wantwhether it's 10 minutes, which I
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do not suggest.
I suggest you want to do atleast 20 and then up to 60
minutes.
So I did 40 minutes thismorning because we had a big
party here last night and didn'tget to bed late, and so I
needed an extra couple ofminutes to just chill, and so
it's really simple.
You just put your hand in, youhave to take the jewelry off, so
, and then you put your hand inhere and then you either sit on
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your phone and do meditation orbreathing or watch TV, or, if
you're like me, I'm just onTikTok, probably shopping.
It's my new, it's my new thing,so.
And then you can watch abeautiful wave on the video and
you have the wave sound.
But this one has an extraspecial frequency.
It's the five to eightfrequency, which is the healing,
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miracle frequency, so we'reembedding that in this.
So it weighs about seven pounds.
It can go on an airplane forfree because we're an FDA
cleared device, so you don't payfor it in the overhead luggage.
And it's really simple to use.
My two and a half year old greatstep great granddaughter uses
it.
She just puts her mitt on andputs her hand in it and presses
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a button and she uses it.
It's crazy.
The kids are so smart thesedays and she actually happens to
be an Addison baby.
So mommy used it while she wasin utero and she came out with
blonde hair like a Smurf, andall the nurses were coming in to
see what this blonde baby withthe Smurf hair looked like,
because usually blonde babiesare bald for the first two years
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of their life because theirhair is so fair and light.
So, yeah, she's quite a littlepistol.
And so we put your hand on thedry heat pad, we enclose you in
a vacuum.
The vacuum is really importantbecause that distends the
arterial venous anastomosis, theAVAs that are in right here,
and this is where we can run alot of blood through the palm of
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the hand and the feet.
So Tom chose the hands, becausethe feet with a lot of our
clients, gravity isn't going topull up, but when you infuse the
heat it's going to go up hereto your heart and in about.
Your body is so smart, so inless than a minute it's going to
try to shut it down orvasoconstrict, but we keep your
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AVA's open because of the vacuum.
It's the secret, ok?
So basically, tom does a bodyhack and puts a heat pump on
your circulatory system and itcan't vasoconstrict and shut it
down because of that vacuum.
It pulls it open.
So in about 10 minutes we thinout the blood just barely and
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then your hypothalamus kicks inand goes oh, this feels great.
This body hasn't felt like thissince you were 20.
So I'm going to gift you withmore circulation, which means
more oxygen and nutrients, andI'm going to circulate this head
to toe, even through the bloodbrain barrier, all the way down
to your little toe, and it'sthat easy.
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So kind of think of us likeacupuncture without the needles,
which I go to, acupuncture andI'd rather not have the needles,
but, you know, got the needlesometimes.
So this is something I dobefore the chiropractor, the
acupuncturist.
I do it for everything and sodoes my whole family, and so
it's that simple.
It's so simple and that's whywe've had no contraindications,
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because it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, for listeners, if you're a practitioner, if
you're a veteran, if you're anon-veteran and you want to
learn how to offer this to yourclients or for your home use.
There will be links in the showdescription.
So don't worry, Awesome.
Can you just recap one moretime some of the huge benefits
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that someone can expect fromAvacyn?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, okay.
So back in the day when we wereon lockdown and COVID was
happening, we have an affiliateprogram, because this is not a
device that can be in a box andcan sit on a shelf in a pharmacy
or in a doctor's office or inWalmart.
It has to be shown andexperienced.
So we actually call them anAvacyn experience.
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And so my affiliates wereamazing.
They were dropping them off onpeople's doorsteps when they
found their neighbors had COVID,keeping everybody out of the
hospital.
We tried to get emergencyclearance for that, but we were
turned down because we couldn'tproduce three to 5 million a
month.
But we were turned down becausewe couldn't produce three to
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five million a month.
Wow, yeah, you can read betweenthose lines, anyway.
So I happened to get COVIDafter going to a wedding and I
came home.
I tested negative twice.
I had my taste and smell, I had97% oxygen, but I was going
down by week two.
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I was going to Jesus and I wasso sick I didn't care.
And so finally, when I went tothe ER, four hours later they
still couldn't find the COVID.
But two months later I'm losingmy hair and freaking out
Because one of the problems withCOVID, because if you're so
sick, your body shuts downeverything.
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That's non-essential, and Iguess hair growth is
non-essential.
So it was like I had cancer andso I'm like pulling out hair.
So I use the Avacyn, I havethree PRP treatments to stop the
shedding and and then my hairgrew back darker and curly.
It was crazy, it was absolutelycrazy.
(30:10):
So hair growth, nail growth mynails grow a 10th of an inch in
six days instead of 30.
Tom's hair grows like crazy.
We're always I mean, mymanicurist and my stylist love
me because I spend a lot ofmoney with them, but that just
means that I've got greatmicrocirculation, so I'll take
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that all day long.
I've seen a gentleman who had aheadache, a migraine, for three
years in 10 minutes of doingour device completely gone
completely gone.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, I don't know about our listeners, but I'm
going to my V care provider andrequesting an Avacyn device
because I broke my back.
I suffer from migraine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh, okay.
So the story about how thishappened is my older sister had
25 years of migraines.
She had 20 to 25 a month andthey put her on so many meds.
They basically turned her intoa drug seeker.
I mean she had a morphine boximplanted.
That went septic.
She then they took that out oh,let's put some copper wires in
her back.
(31:16):
That went septic.
She had morphine patches,lidocaine patches.
I mean she was a hot mess andTom was working with some
scientists at Stanford and theyhad a cooling device.
But Tom, I call him Dr Google,now I call him Dr ChatGPT,
because now that's what he'sdoing.
Okay, everything ChatGPT.
So just the way we're evolving,right.
(31:39):
So he found a doctor who wasusing T3, t4 hormones and they
were injecting it in the carotid, which is really dangerous to
raise women's body coretemperature to normothermia and
some of the patients were nothaving migraines anymore.
So his brain goes aha, I wantto make one that warms.
So Stanford didn't want to dothat.
(32:01):
So he's like sign this and hewent on his own.
So we took it to my sister 17and a half years ago.
She was on day three of amigraine and I'd never seen her
when she was in a migraine Causeyou couldn't talk to her, you
couldn't see her, she was noteating, she was not sleeping.
You know how it is that you're,you're laid out.
So she looked like death.
(32:24):
She looked like the walkingdead.
She was total ash and gray.
She comes out on crutchesbecause she was an amputee and
so she had a lot of stuff goingon.
We sit her down.
We felt confident because herhusband was a cancer specialist.
So we're like God forbid ifanything happens.
He's there.
And so in about less than 10minutes she went from ash and
(32:45):
gray to pink.
She just pinked up.
So we're like oh, how do youfeel?
And she goes well, I still havea little bit of a migraine, but
I'm hungry and I don't thinkI'm going to have to take my
meds.
And we're like whoa, whoa, whoa.
What just happened?
A miracle, right.
So, and I don't say that M word,word, much, but it was kind of
(33:07):
a miracle for our family and mybrother-in-law gets out of
checks his checkbook and goeshow much?
And we're like oh no, you can'thave this, this is a prototype
from Stanford, you can't havethis.
And he's like you just tellthem that it was taken out of
your car because this machine isnot leaving this house.
Because he was trying to doeverything for her and because
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of his mentality of being aphysician and Western medicine,
he wouldn't allow anything.
But because this was Stanfordscience guess what it came in
the house.
So we're thinking we're goingto cure the world of migraines.
And then our attorney said well, tom, have you met the FDA?
And we're like what's that?
(33:49):
Because we were so green, wewere just out to cure the world,
right?
So, yes, it has been a 17 and ahalf year old journey for us,
and we're you know what.
We're happy to do it becausewe're seeing amazing things
happen every day, every day day,every day, well as a volume.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
As a migraine sufferer who's had so many
rounds of what they call a drugcocktail eight hour iv drug
therapy, I just got chills andit to have it only come back the
next day.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So there's a.
This is a different protocolfor you.
So if you don't have a migraine, you do 20 minutes morning and
night.
But if you do like, I woke upthis morning with a bit of
attention thingy happening about630 in the morning because when
the barometric pressure changesthat's when I get something.
So I take an Excedrin migrainepill and I do the Avacyn for 10
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to 15 minutes and it's gone,gone.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's crazy.
I'm very excited.
Thank you so much for talkingwith me, but before we wrap up I
want to change the topic.
I know this is a bit off topic,but I'd like to talk about
Anti-Diva School of Charity.
Okay, it's my passion project,so if, if you have been
(35:11):
following me on social media, onx, or if you listen to the
podcast, you've heard me saythat my parents sent me to
debutante school and and my twosisters from age 15 to 16 and a
very stern french woman taughtus how to be ladies.
I hated it at the time.
However, I'm a middle class kidfrom Queens, new York, and
(35:33):
later, as a corporate executive,I found myself among the
wealthy and connected.
Oh yes, you did, but I was veryconfident in myself and meeting
new people from all walks oflife because I was a debutante,
life because I was a debutante.
So talk to us about AuntieDiva's School of Charm, because
I highly recommend that everyparent aunt uncle, best friend,
(35:57):
grandmother, grandfather, yougot it.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Get this book.
Well, thank you.
I'd love to send you one, bythe way.
Yeah, so afterwards we'llconnect and I'll send you one
with my, with my, pleasure.
So this is something.
This is crazy.
I published it three years ago,but it took me 10 years to write
it because I kept changingthings and it kept evolving.
(36:20):
So Auntie Diva's School ofCharm is basically a meld of my
mother and myself.
We're Auntie Diva, and then mybest friend who passed is Ms
Miss Hazel, and this is teachingseven to 12 year olds
confidence, grace, etiquette,responsibility and giving back
(36:40):
to your community, because theseyoung ladies do a passion
project every year, and so thisis going to be a series, and
I've started writing my secondone.
So the first one is calledForever Friends, because they
befriend a young girl who is onthe street and doesn't want to,
is surviving on the street,which is a lot.
(37:00):
There's too many of thesechildren on the street and
especially now with all of thetrafficking, it's just a huge
thing for me right now.
So she's a woman who is kind oflike me and she's sassy and
she's has a little bit of magicintuition, and she has these six
young women that she mentors.
They go to high school and thenthey come back and they learn
(37:24):
all of these important things.
I mean even how to walk into aroom, how to sit down, how to
answer a telephone Because, likeyou, my mother was British.
Okay, so we better know ourstuff and we would sit down at
age five and we could be in aroom and a dining room with
anybody and eating properly andspeaking properly.
(37:46):
And, like you, I traveled theworld and I was thrown into all
sorts of situations and I'mtotally confident because I know
how to use a knife and fork, Iknow how to have a conversation
with people, I can hold a tableconversation and direct it,
because that is just somethingthat if you're going to be like
(38:06):
someone like you, that's, a CEOin front of people from all over
the world, you better know it,because they can tell you in a
half a second if you do.
And you don't even have anaccent from Queens.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I worked very hard to lose it and I live in the
Midwest now, but I've lived allover the world, so I worked very
hard to lose my accent fromQueens, but I would talk like
this if I'm back there in a halfa second.
Yeah, I worked very hard atthat yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So, um, you can find it on amazon, on
barnesandnoblecom and walmart,and I'm working on my second one
, and my second one is going tobe about bullying, because
that's something near and dear.
And then the girls are going totravel with Auntie Diva all
over the world to learn otherpeople's cultures.
This is incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, I often look at professional athletes
and there's a news story thatsomeone blew all their money or
they blew up their lives, andone of the reasons, I believe,
is because they're thrown into adifferent socioeconomic world
(39:16):
prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
There's interesting, because I have a very dear
friend in Texas who's he's afinancial planner and he does
some really cool stuff withtaxes that I can't don't even
understand, because I just youknow one thing I can't wrap my
head around.
I know how to spend money.
I'm not really good at savingit, but I'm working on it.
And so he says he works with alot of football players because,
(39:39):
like you said, they're throwninto this, they're making
millions of dollars and theycome from a demographics that's
basically their mothers probablywork two and three jobs and now
they're taking care of theirfamilies, so they're buying
everybody a lot of stuff.
And then what happens?
They get injured.
So guess what?
They're not getting that moneyanymore.
(39:59):
Have they planned for that?
Probably not.
So, yes, absolutely so, andI've been asked to write a book
for boys too, so that'll come.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's much needed to write a book for boys too.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So that'll come.
That's much needed.
Yeah, it is much needed.
And and so it's so funnybecause I was just at a seminar
called brain camp.
A dear friend of mine has afive-year-old who is more like a
20 year old, and I gave Ialways travel with a book
because I always end up givingit to somebody and I gave it to
that little girl named harmonyand he's going to sit.
And I said have that littlegirl named Harmony, and he's
going to sit.
And I said have a tea partywith your daughter and read a
(40:36):
chapter.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
That's beautiful.
But my although my parents weremiddle class I think we lived
in a middle class neighborhoodbut kind of had upper middle
income money to a lot of fanshere, fans and places and at
five years old, my parentsexpected me to go to a
restaurant with a white linentablecloth and a maitre d' and
(40:59):
be able to order for myself andsit like a lady and bring my
fork up to my mouth.
And that was even beforebecoming a debutante.
It was just expected, and so Ireally love the idea of passing
this on to the youngergeneration and I'm going to do a
special social media post juston this one topic and I can't
wait.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I can't wait to read it.
It I'm so happy you broughtthat up because it's something
that I have to marinate onsomething for a long time before
I sit down and write it.
And that's why it took me 10years to write this first one,
because and I felt the worldwasn't ready for it yet.
So three years ago it came out,and because I thought the world
(41:40):
was ready for it and most of mypeople have been adults that
read it.
It's so funny and book clubsare reading it and I'm like, oh
my gosh, that is just.
It's just a great honor that Ican pass down my mom's legacy.
What she taught me We've beenin the theater.
I'm fourth generation and so Igrew up, grew up in a theater
(42:02):
home and she had a theaterschool.
So on Saturday mornings we wentto etiquette with my mom's best
friend, auntie Jean, and thenwhen we graduated, we went to a
restaurant that had the whitetablecloth and we all got
dressed up and we had gloves on.
I mean it was the 70s, 60s, soyou know, we had the gloves and
(42:22):
the patent leather shoes and wesat like little ladies.
And what I see now at diningroom tables I see the whole
family doing this.
Yes, I mean, I was atDisneyland a couple years ago
and there was a family of four.
They weren't sitting talkingabout their great day at
Disneyland, they were all doingthis and I'm like what is
happening?
This is crazy.
(42:42):
That's why kids can'tcommunicate, because they're
just in their phone or theiriPads.
I see babies sticking withiPads.
I'm like what is happening?
Man, this is just somethingthat's their wedding.
And then they call me foretiquette tips.
So I tell you, the big risingthing right now is people in the
(43:24):
workplace going to etiquetteclasses adults going to
etiquette classes because theydon't know how to sit at a table
and have a conversation and use.
They don't know how to eatproperly right it's a big it's a
big thing.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Well, it's been such a pleasure talking with you,
danielle.
Thank you all of your links inthe show description.
Thank you until next time,friends, I'm antonette lee, your
wellness warrior here at thenew normal big life podcast.
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Non-invasive devices aretransforming pain management by
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offering drug-free relief forconditions like arthritis,
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Veterans and wellnessenthusiasts alike praise its
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Avacyn's approach is redefiningholistic health, making it
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The Avacyn treatment methodenhances blood flow, delivering
oxygen and nutrients to tissueswhile reducing pain and
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inflammation.
Avacyn co-founder, danielleForsgren, and I had a chat about
this innovative pain managementtechnique with bonus content
for the veteran community.
Hi friends, welcome to the NewNormal, big Life podcast.
We bring you natural news andstories about nature that we
hope will inspire you to getoutside and adventure, along
with a step-by-step plan to helpyou practice what you've
(01:05):
learned and create your own newnormal and live the biggest life
you can dream.
I'm your host, antoinette Lee,the Wellness Warrior.
Today, I'm joined by anincredible and interesting guest
, danielle Forsgren,motivational speaker, author,
facilitator and co-founder ofAvazin Medical, where you can
find pain relief from the palmof your hand, and Legally Diva,
(01:28):
where Danielle handpicks thehottest trends and must-haves in
health, beauty and fashion.
Just for you.
We're talking about managingchronic pain through Avacyn
Medical's microcirculationtechniques.
Imagine a world where chronicpain, whether from arthritis,
lupus, fibromyalgia or migraines, is managed without pills or
(01:49):
invasive procedures, right fromthe comfort of your home.
Avacyn's technology enhancesbird flow, delivering oxygen and
nutrients to tissues whilereducing pain and inflammation.
This revolutionary approach,known as the Avacyn Treatment
Method, or ATM, is reshaping howwe address chronic pain and
wellness, offering a drug-free,non-invasive solution that's
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both safe and effective.
Before we learn about Avacynand how microcirculation works,
it's important to understand thehealthcare challenges these
devices solve.
Danielle, welcome to New NormalBig Life.
What healthcare channel was theAvacyn treatment method
designed to solve?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Wow, okay, loaded question right off the bat,
let's go.
I can say that we are FDAcleared for aches, pain strains,
overall muscular relaxation andwidespread pain for arthritis,
but we have found about 38fields of uses of other chronic
(02:54):
illnesses and other things,because when you have great
microcirculation you have theholy grail for longevity and we
have a lot of side benefits whenyou use the Avacyn.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Can you tell me more about the side benefits,
especially the longevity piece?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, well, so here's the sad news.
We'll do that one first.
Everyone over the age of 40,80% of us have compromised
microcirculation.
Okay, so meaning you have ahundred thousand miles of
capillaries head to toe, even inyour brain.
So wherever you have blood, thecapillaries are the chain to
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keep the blood flowing head totoe.
And that's why, like on your40th birthday, you need reading
glasses.
I use these because of thecomputer, so these are blue
light, but I have really greateyesight.
Actually, my sister, who's beenusing the Abyssin for 14 years,
she actually tracked hereyesight and she went from a
1.75 down to 20, 20.
(03:56):
Because inflammation iseverywhere.
So we are stopping theinflammation by using the
Abyssin at least twice a day,morning and night.
We say left at light, right atnight, because the left helps
open up the lymphatic drainage.
So you want to use the leftfirst, but I use it four times a
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day without fail, because ofthe side benefits, and one of
them I can tell you is that webring more oxygen, nutrients and
collagen to the skin and ittakes about a week to notice.
But if you do two hours a day,so I break it up into 30 minutes
, so I'll do 30 minutes in themorning, 30 minutes after dinner
(04:40):
and like an hour when I'm bingewatching my new Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, speaking of collagen, I noticed the glow in
your face.
Do you attribute that to Avacyn?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Absolutely, and good skincare.
I'm going to be 66 in two weeks.
I don't feel it, and I havepeople stopping and asking me
about my skin all the time.
So I'm an ambassador for askincare line it's actually skin
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Nathan Newman's stem and I don'treally give shout outs to a lot
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helping people.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
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I'm actually going to look thatup, thank you.
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I will send you a link, don't worry.
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Perfect and I'll drop that in the show description.
I love it.
Before we dive into the heartof the matter, let's talk about
the prevalence of chronic painin the United States.
Based on recent data,approximately 51 million US
adults 29, rather, 20% of theadult population experienced
chronic patient pain in 2021.
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Chronic pain is defined as painlasting three months or more.
According to the NationalHealth Interview Surveys, or
NHIS, conducted by the CDC.
Of these, about 17 millionadults, or a little over 6%,
suffer from high-impact chronicpain, which significantly limits
daily activities such as workor self-care.
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In 2023, the prevalenceslightly increased, with 24% of
adults reporting chronic painand more than 8% around 21
million experiencing high impactchronic pain.
These figures highlight chronicpain as a major public health
issue, surpassing conditionslike diabetes, depression and
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high blood pressure incidents.
Certain groups face higherrates of chronic pain, like
women.
We experience it at 26% of thefemale population, versus 22%
for men.
Seniors experience chronic painat 36% if you're 65 and older,
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and 30% of people living inpoverty, living in rural areas
or with public health insuranceexperience chronic pain.
Back pain at 41% and hip, kneeor foot pain at 41% are the most
common types, often linked toarthritis, nerve damage or old
injuries.
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Here's the prevalence globally.
Globally, estimates suggestthat at least 10% of the world's
population, or approximately780 million people, suffer from
chronic pain.
Some sources, including the USPain Foundation, estimate this
figure could be as high as 1.5billion people worldwide.
(07:51):
But here's what's interestingMore people are seeking natural
ways to manage their pain.
Let's explore why.
First, we're going to talkabout chronic pain in the
veteran community, which is nearand dear to my heart because
I'm an 11-year Army veteran.
Us veterans experience chronicpain at significantly higher
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rates than the generalpopulation, largely due to
combat-related injuries,musculoskeletal issues and
associated with comorbidities.
Comorbidities means thesimultaneous presence of two or
more diseases or medicalconditions in a person.
Us veterans serving inoperation iraqi freedom, oif,
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operation enduring freedom, oefand operation new dawn ond often
carry equipment loads thatweigh more than a medieval
knight's armor.
Doing oif, oef and ond and OND,us soldiers, and particularly
infantrymen, carry heavy combatloads due to the demands of
counterinsurgency operations,urban warfare and prolonged
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patrols in harsh environments.
According to a 2018 articlefrom War History Online, the
average combat load for a UScombat soldier in the mid 2000s
often exceeded 88 pounds andcould reach up to 120 pounds for
extended missions.
This load included body armorthe interceptor body armor or
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iba, used widely during oif andoef, weighed approximately 30
pounds, with front, back sideand additional neck and shoulder
and groin pads.
Later, symptoms like improvedouter tactical arrest or OITV,
added a slightly heavier weight.
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Doing OIF, oef and OND, ussoldiers, and particularly
infantrymen, carry heavy combatloads due to the demands of
counterinsurgency operations,urban warfare and prolonged
patrols in harsh environments.
According to a 2018 articlefrom War History Online, the
average combat load for a UScombat soldier in the mid-2000s
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often exceeded 88 pounds andcould reach up to 120 pounds for
extended missions.
This load included body armorthe interceptor body armor or
IBA, used widely during OIF andOEF, weighed approximately 30
pounds, with front back sideplates and additional neck and
(10:22):
shoulder and groin pads.
Later, systems like improvedouter tactical vest or OITV,
added similar or slightlyheavier weight.
Weapons and ammunition an M4rifle with 7 to 8 pounds plus 6
to 7 magazines about a poundeach, added roughly 15 pounds.
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Additional gear, like the loadincluded the individual first
aid equip, ifak, which is one totwo pounds.
Hydration systems like acamelback up to seven pounds
when full grenades.
Radios, batteries, night visiongoggles two pounds there and
other mission critical itemslike the fighting load carrier
(11:03):
for extra ammo, critical itemslike the fighting load carrier
for extra ammo, uniform andaccessories.
All that added weight.
The army combat uniform, combatboots and other gear like
rigorous belt patrol cap addedanother 10 to 15 pounds.
Then there's specializedequipment for specific roles,
such as turret gunners, andadditional protective gear like
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the Quad Guard 4 ormission-specific equipment like
breaching tools and extramunitions could push loads
towards 100 to 130 pounds forlong patrols.
A 2006 House Armed ServicesCommittee hearing noted that the
heavy weight of equipment,particularly on up-armored
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vehicles and body armor,increased risks like vehicle
rollovers and physical straincontributing to injuries in
extreme heat and under overuneven terrain, led to
significant musculoskeletalissues, with 50 percent of
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combat wounds and oif and oafbeing musculoskeletal extremity
injuries, many made worse byheavy loads.
Let's look at the medievalknights armor versus the modern
warfighter.
Medieval knights, particularlyfrom the 14th to 16th centuries,
wore full plate armor designedfor combat, which was
surprisingly lighter than modernmilitary loads.
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In many cases, records andstudies of surviving armor
indicate full plate armor.
A complete suit of latemedieval plate armor for a
knight in the 15th centurytypically weighed 40 pounds to
55 pounds for high qualitytailored suits used by mounted
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knights.
This included the helmet,breastplate, cauldrons,
gauntlets and chainmailcomponents.
They also had additional gear.
Knights carried weapons likethe long sword two to four
pounds and shield five to tenpounds, and sometimes the lance,
which is five to ten pounds,bringing the total combat load
around 50 to 70 pounds.
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For a fully equipped knight onfoot, the average combat load
for OIF, oef and OND soldierswas 88 to 100 pounds,
significantly exceeds thetypical weight of a medieval
knight at 50 to 70 pounds.
So why this matters for chronicpain?
When we come back, we'll take alook at it.
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World events are constantlyteaching everyone some very
painful lessons Without warning.
Everything we take for grantedcan suddenly fail, and if you're
not prepared in advance, youreally don't have a chance.
The fact is, the modern worldruns on a just-in-time supply
schedule.
Even the biggest grocery storescan carry only enough food for
(13:55):
a few days worth of normalshopping.
So when disaster strikes andchaos ensues at your local
stores, the odds are simplyagainst you.
If you don't have emergencyfood and gear stockpiled in
advance, you will probablysuffer.
My partner, ready Hour, is hereto help you ahead of time.
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So why this matters?
For chronic pain, the excessiveweight of modern military
equipment compared to therelatively lighter medieval
knight's armor has significanthealth complications for
veterans.
The VA's musculoskeletaldiagnosis cohort found that 5.2
(15:20):
million veterans hadmusculoskeletal diagnoses, many
linked to heavy loads carriedduring OIF, oef and OND.
The VA's focus onnon-pharmacological treatments,
like the Avacyn treatment method, aligns with veterans' needs
for drug-free pain relief.
Avacyn's microcirculationtherapy, which enhances blood
(15:42):
flow to reduce pain, has beenintegrated into VA programs,
with testimonies like a veteransaying the anxiety and muscle
tension just melted away.
This underscores the importanceof innovations like Avacyn's
non-invasive therapy, whichoffers a natural, effective
solution for managing veterans'chronic pain without the risk of
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opioids.
So why are more people seekingnatural pain management?
When we come back from thisshort break, we'll discuss it
Before we cover the next topicin this episode.
I want to introduce you withwhat I like to call a micro
story about an adventure that Ihave had.
The adventure, sports lifestyleand my deep connection to
nature is essential for my goodhealth.
(16:25):
So here's the story.
It was my second year targetingsmallmouth bass and I did
pretty well on the first year.
But on my second year this year, I was off to a slow start and
rather than getting upset aboutnot catching fish because my guy
Matt and I compete for biggestfish, first fish in most species
(16:47):
caught that day so rather thansulk, I decided I would work on
my kayak fishing skills basicand advanced skills like paddle
control, rod control and usingthe net.
So I focused on these skillscasting one-handed, which is
(17:10):
sometimes called the kayaker'scast, casting one-handed exactly
where I wanted my bait to land,and I got really good at that.
Then we went out on anothertrip and I landed the biggest
fish of the day.
I did that.
I hope this inspires you to getoutside and adventure alone or
(17:31):
with those you love.
Now back to the high prevalenceof chronic pain, to figure out
why people are making this shifttowards natural pain management
.
The high prevalence of chronicpain, combined with the opioid
crisis, drives the shift towardsnatural pain management.
The high prevalence of chronicpain combined with the opioid
crisis drives the shift towardsnatural pain management.
The risk of addiction 7 to 11%of chronic pain patients develop
(17:52):
opioid abuse disorder and theyhave limited long-term efficacy
on opioids.
Long-term, there's only a 30%pain reduction.
This has fueled a mistrust inpharmacological solutions.
I personally suffer from chronicpain after sustaining a
traumatic brain injury andbroken back during my 11 years
(18:14):
of service in the army.
I have arthritis from my neckto my tailbone and in both knees
.
However, the only time that Itake pain medication is when the
pain is so severe that it feelsunmanageable using natural
remedies, and that rarelyhappens.
Integrative therapies likeacupuncture, yoga, meditation
and breath work and physicaltherapy are also increasingly
(18:37):
adopted, with 77% ofchiropractic care recipients
reporting that it has been avery effective treatment tool.
Chronic pain affects 51 to 60million Americans and 780
million to 1.5 billion peopleglobally with significant
(18:57):
physical, mental and economictools.
Opioids dominate painmanagement in the US and much of
the developed world to theirpotency, but the risks evidenced
by 81,000 US deaths and 480,000global deaths annually have
fueled a shift toward naturalalternatives.
Innovations like Avacyn'smicrocirculation therapy,
(19:20):
alongside growing awareness ofopioid, opioid limitations and
holistic health trends areempowering patients to seek
safer, more sustainable painrelief options.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So, speaking of the veteran community, can a veteran
veteran, owned for 18 years andalso Native American, purchased
and okayed and cleared in lessthan seven days, which is
unheard of, because we engagethe parasympathetic, which is
(20:13):
rest, restore, relax and fightor flight is the sympathetic.
We engage the parasympatheticand that's part of the overall
muscular relaxation, fdaclearance.
They said can you help ourveterans?
And so Tom Muehlbauer, who wasour inventor and CEO, co-founder
and, fyi, my husband of 35years, there's that, we can't
(20:36):
forget that and so he was anarmy vet, my dad was in the
service, he was Navy MasterChief for 25 years and then his
dad a Marine.
We've always tried to supportand give back to our veteran
community.
So if you are service, if yougo to the va hospital or c-box,
(20:57):
you can go to your pt or your um, your pain doc, and ask them to
look up the gsa code, avacyn,and they hopefully can order it.
Now they might just give youknow.
We might send you one for justa month or something.
It depends on every VA, okay,so the challenge is, if you've
(21:20):
been to one VA, you've been toone VA because everything is run
differently.
So currently we are cleared andwe have a GSA code which I will
send you, so you might want topop that in there too, because
we want to help our vets andwe're finding that the ones who
are getting it through arehaving incredible results.
(21:41):
They're sleeping better, theirpain's going away, they're
getting off their pain medsbecause that's the whole thing
and I really believe in my heartthat we can stop these suicides
that are happening.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and the other thing that they're not talking
about is the spouses who arealso committing suicide because
they don't want to be outwithout their soulmate.
So it's a double hit.
It's horrible and we can help,and so I'm tenacious as heck and
I'm going to get it done.
I don't know.
You know I'm pulling everystring.
(22:14):
I know and you know there's alot of VAs out there and they
want to help people, but they'recompletely exhausted.
The doctors are exhausted, thenurses and the staff is
exhausted.
I'm hoping things are going tobe streamlined.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, thank you and your family for your legacy of
service to the country and allthe veterans in your family,
both yours and your husband's.
I really appreciate that as aveteran and a person who comes
from a legacy veteran family aswell.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Thank you for your service and your family's
service.
People don't understand thatwhen they're keeping us safe
everything else their familyreally takes a hit.
And the cool thing about ourdevice is a family device.
I have two and a half year oldsusing our device up to 102,
because it's really simple.
It's dry, heat, a vacuum andyour body.
(23:08):
So you know we've had over 30million treatments and not one
adverse event reported becausewe're that easy to use.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's amazing, because there are so what the
pharmaceutical industry likes tocall side effects, but they're
basically the effects of themedication.
I cringe, I cringe, I cringe,right.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So I'm eating dinner, I'm watching TV and I'm seeing
one of those ads and then the 2million things that can happen,
including cancer and death, andI'm like, are you kidding me
right now?
What's happening?
And you know, here's the deal.
87% of people who are on medsdon't want to be and they're
looking for another option.
We are that option.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So tell us about Avacyn Medical's
microcirculation solution tochronic pain.
How does it work?
How does it affect the body?
What can we expect when we useit?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, so mechanism of action.
So it's pretty cool.
It's very simple.
Our new gold one, very simple,our new gold one.
This is the GXL.
Very sexy, and it matches myBuddha girl bracelets.
I said make me a color likethat.
(24:20):
It took three months to getthis color.
So this is our GXL and it'slaunching August 11th.
You put a mitt on and you putyour hand in here, and it's
reusable up to a hundred times.
So we don't want to make moneyon mitts, we just want you to
use one, because your hand hasoils in it.
And so you put your hand inthere, you press a button and
you decide what time you wantwhether it's 10 minutes, which I
(24:40):
do not suggest.
I suggest you want to do atleast 20 and then up to 60
minutes.
So I did 40 minutes thismorning because we had a big
party here last night and didn'tget to bed late, and so I
needed an extra couple ofminutes to just chill, and so
it's really simple.
You just put your hand in, youhave to take the jewelry off, so
, and then you put your hand inhere and then you either sit on
(25:02):
your phone and do meditation orbreathing or watch TV, or, if
you're like me, I'm just onTikTok, probably shopping.
It's my new, it's my new thing,so.
And then you can watch abeautiful wave on the video and
you have the wave sound.
But this one has an extraspecial frequency.
It's the five to eightfrequency, which is the healing,
(25:25):
miracle frequency, so we'reembedding that in this.
So it weighs about seven pounds.
It can go on an airplane forfree because we're an FDA
cleared device, so you don't payfor it in the overhead luggage.
And it's really simple to use.
My two and a half year old greatstep great granddaughter uses
it.
She just puts her mitt on andputs her hand in it and presses
(25:48):
a button and she uses it.
It's crazy.
The kids are so smart thesedays and she actually happens to
be an Addison baby.
So mommy used it while she wasin utero and she came out with
blonde hair like a Smurf, andall the nurses were coming in to
see what this blonde baby withthe Smurf hair looked like,
because usually blonde babiesare bald for the first two years
(26:11):
of their life because theirhair is so fair and light.
So, yeah, she's quite a littlepistol.
And so we put your hand on thedry heat pad, we enclose you in
a vacuum.
The vacuum is really importantbecause that distends the
arterial venous anastomosis, theAVAs that are in right here,
and this is where we can run alot of blood through the palm of
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the hand and the feet.
So Tom chose the hands, becausethe feet with a lot of our
clients, gravity isn't going topull up, but when you infuse the
heat it's going to go up hereto your heart and in about.
Your body is so smart, so inless than a minute it's going to
try to shut it down orvasoconstrict, but we keep your
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AVA's open because of the vacuum.
It's the secret, ok?
So basically, tom does a bodyhack and puts a heat pump on
your circulatory system and itcan't vasoconstrict and shut it
down because of that vacuum.
It pulls it open.
So in about 10 minutes we thinout the blood just barely and
(27:18):
then your hypothalamus kicks inand goes oh, this feels great.
This body hasn't felt like thissince you were 20.
So I'm going to gift you withmore circulation, which means
more oxygen and nutrients, andI'm going to circulate this head
to toe, even through the bloodbrain barrier, all the way down
to your little toe, and it'sthat easy.
(27:39):
So kind of think of us likeacupuncture without the needles,
which I go to, acupuncture andI'd rather not have the needles,
but, you know, got the needlesometimes.
So this is something I dobefore the chiropractor, the
acupuncturist.
I do it for everything and sodoes my whole family, and so
it's that simple.
It's so simple and that's whywe've had no contraindications,
(28:01):
because it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, for listeners, if you're a practitioner, if
you're a veteran, if you're anon-veteran and you want to
learn how to offer this to yourclients or for your home use.
There will be links in the showdescription.
So don't worry, Awesome.
Can you just recap one moretime some of the huge benefits
(28:24):
that someone can expect fromAvacyn?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, okay.
So back in the day when we wereon lockdown and COVID was
happening, we have an affiliateprogram, because this is not a
device that can be in a box andcan sit on a shelf in a pharmacy
or in a doctor's office or inWalmart.
It has to be shown andexperienced.
So we actually call them anAvacyn experience.
(28:48):
And so my affiliates wereamazing.
They were dropping them off onpeople's doorsteps when they
found their neighbors had COVID,keeping everybody out of the
hospital.
We tried to get emergencyclearance for that, but we were
turned down because we couldn'tproduce three to 5 million a
month.
But we were turned down becausewe couldn't produce three to
(29:09):
five million a month.
Wow, yeah, you can read betweenthose lines, anyway.
So I happened to get COVIDafter going to a wedding and I
came home.
I tested negative twice.
I had my taste and smell, I had97% oxygen, but I was going
down by week two.
(29:29):
I was going to Jesus and I wasso sick I didn't care.
And so finally, when I went tothe ER, four hours later they
still couldn't find the COVID.
But two months later I'm losingmy hair and freaking out
Because one of the problems withCOVID, because if you're so
sick, your body shuts downeverything.
(29:50):
That's non-essential, and Iguess hair growth is
non-essential.
So it was like I had cancer andso I'm like pulling out hair.
So I use the Avacyn, I havethree PRP treatments to stop the
shedding and and then my hairgrew back darker and curly.
It was crazy, it was absolutelycrazy.
(30:10):
So hair growth, nail growth mynails grow a 10th of an inch in
six days instead of 30.
Tom's hair grows like crazy.
We're always I mean, mymanicurist and my stylist love
me because I spend a lot ofmoney with them, but that just
means that I've got greatmicrocirculation, so I'll take
(30:31):
that all day long.
I've seen a gentleman who had aheadache, a migraine, for three
years in 10 minutes of doingour device completely gone
completely gone.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, I don't know about our listeners, but I'm
going to my V care provider andrequesting an Avacyn device
because I broke my back.
I suffer from migraine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh, okay.
So the story about how thishappened is my older sister had
25 years of migraines.
She had 20 to 25 a month andthey put her on so many meds.
They basically turned her intoa drug seeker.
I mean she had a morphine boximplanted.
That went septic.
She then they took that out oh,let's put some copper wires in
her back.
(31:16):
That went septic.
She had morphine patches,lidocaine patches.
I mean she was a hot mess andTom was working with some
scientists at Stanford and theyhad a cooling device.
But Tom, I call him Dr Google,now I call him Dr ChatGPT,
because now that's what he'sdoing.
Okay, everything ChatGPT.
So just the way we're evolving,right.
(31:39):
So he found a doctor who wasusing T3, t4 hormones and they
were injecting it in the carotid, which is really dangerous to
raise women's body coretemperature to normothermia and
some of the patients were nothaving migraines anymore.
So his brain goes aha, I wantto make one that warms.
So Stanford didn't want to dothat.
(32:01):
So he's like sign this and hewent on his own.
So we took it to my sister 17and a half years ago.
She was on day three of amigraine and I'd never seen her
when she was in a migraine Causeyou couldn't talk to her, you
couldn't see her, she was noteating, she was not sleeping.
You know how it is that you're,you're laid out.
So she looked like death.
(32:24):
She looked like the walkingdead.
She was total ash and gray.
She comes out on crutchesbecause she was an amputee and
so she had a lot of stuff goingon.
We sit her down.
We felt confident because herhusband was a cancer specialist.
So we're like God forbid ifanything happens.
He's there.
And so in about less than 10minutes she went from ash and
(32:45):
gray to pink.
She just pinked up.
So we're like oh, how do youfeel?
And she goes well, I still havea little bit of a migraine, but
I'm hungry and I don't thinkI'm going to have to take my
meds.
And we're like whoa, whoa, whoa.
What just happened?
A miracle, right.
So, and I don't say that M word,word, much, but it was kind of
(33:07):
a miracle for our family and mybrother-in-law gets out of
checks his checkbook and goeshow much?
And we're like oh no, you can'thave this, this is a prototype
from Stanford, you can't havethis.
And he's like you just tellthem that it was taken out of
your car because this machine isnot leaving this house.
Because he was trying to doeverything for her and because
(33:27):
of his mentality of being aphysician and Western medicine,
he wouldn't allow anything.
But because this was Stanfordscience guess what it came in
the house.
So we're thinking we're goingto cure the world of migraines.
And then our attorney said well, tom, have you met the FDA?
And we're like what's that?
(33:49):
Because we were so green, wewere just out to cure the world,
right?
So, yes, it has been a 17 and ahalf year old journey for us,
and we're you know what.
We're happy to do it becausewe're seeing amazing things
happen every day, every day day,every day, well as a volume.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
As a migraine sufferer who's had so many
rounds of what they call a drugcocktail eight hour iv drug
therapy, I just got chills andit to have it only come back the
next day.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So there's a.
This is a different protocolfor you.
So if you don't have a migraine, you do 20 minutes morning and
night.
But if you do like, I woke upthis morning with a bit of
attention thingy happening about630 in the morning because when
the barometric pressure changesthat's when I get something.
So I take an Excedrin migrainepill and I do the Avacyn for 10
(34:47):
to 15 minutes and it's gone,gone.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's crazy.
I'm very excited.
Thank you so much for talkingwith me, but before we wrap up I
want to change the topic.
I know this is a bit off topic,but I'd like to talk about
Anti-Diva School of Charity.
Okay, it's my passion project,so if, if you have been
(35:11):
following me on social media, onx, or if you listen to the
podcast, you've heard me saythat my parents sent me to
debutante school and and my twosisters from age 15 to 16 and a
very stern french woman taughtus how to be ladies.
I hated it at the time.
However, I'm a middle class kidfrom Queens, new York, and
(35:33):
later, as a corporate executive,I found myself among the
wealthy and connected.
Oh yes, you did, but I was veryconfident in myself and meeting
new people from all walks oflife because I was a debutante,
life because I was a debutante.
So talk to us about AuntieDiva's School of Charm, because
I highly recommend that everyparent aunt uncle, best friend,
(35:57):
grandmother, grandfather, yougot it.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Get this book.
Well, thank you.
I'd love to send you one, bythe way.
Yeah, so afterwards we'llconnect and I'll send you one
with my, with my, pleasure.
So this is something.
This is crazy.
I published it three years ago,but it took me 10 years to write
it because I kept changingthings and it kept evolving.
(36:20):
So Auntie Diva's School ofCharm is basically a meld of my
mother and myself.
We're Auntie Diva, and then mybest friend who passed is Ms
Miss Hazel, and this is teachingseven to 12 year olds
confidence, grace, etiquette,responsibility and giving back
(36:40):
to your community, because theseyoung ladies do a passion
project every year, and so thisis going to be a series, and
I've started writing my secondone.
So the first one is calledForever Friends, because they
befriend a young girl who is onthe street and doesn't want to,
is surviving on the street,which is a lot.
(37:00):
There's too many of thesechildren on the street and
especially now with all of thetrafficking, it's just a huge
thing for me right now.
So she's a woman who is kind oflike me and she's sassy and
she's has a little bit of magicintuition, and she has these six
young women that she mentors.
They go to high school and thenthey come back and they learn
(37:24):
all of these important things.
I mean even how to walk into aroom, how to sit down, how to
answer a telephone Because, likeyou, my mother was British.
Okay, so we better know ourstuff and we would sit down at
age five and we could be in aroom and a dining room with
anybody and eating properly andspeaking properly.
(37:46):
And, like you, I traveled theworld and I was thrown into all
sorts of situations and I'mtotally confident because I know
how to use a knife and fork, Iknow how to have a conversation
with people, I can hold a tableconversation and direct it,
because that is just somethingthat if you're going to be like
(38:06):
someone like you, that's, a CEOin front of people from all over
the world, you better know it,because they can tell you in a
half a second if you do.
And you don't even have anaccent from Queens.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I worked very hard to lose it and I live in the
Midwest now, but I've lived allover the world, so I worked very
hard to lose my accent fromQueens, but I would talk like
this if I'm back there in a halfa second.
Yeah, I worked very hard atthat yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So, um, you can find it on amazon, on
barnesandnoblecom and walmart,and I'm working on my second one
, and my second one is going tobe about bullying, because
that's something near and dear.
And then the girls are going totravel with Auntie Diva all
over the world to learn otherpeople's cultures.
This is incredible.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You know, I often look at professional athletes
and there's a news story thatsomeone blew all their money or
they blew up their lives, andone of the reasons, I believe,
is because they're thrown into adifferent socioeconomic world
(39:16):
prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
There's interesting, because I have a very dear
friend in Texas who's he's afinancial planner and he does
some really cool stuff withtaxes that I can't don't even
understand, because I just youknow one thing I can't wrap my
head around.
I know how to spend money.
I'm not really good at savingit, but I'm working on it.
And so he says he works with alot of football players because,
(39:39):
like you said, they're throwninto this, they're making
millions of dollars and theycome from a demographics that's
basically their mothers probablywork two and three jobs and now
they're taking care of theirfamilies, so they're buying
everybody a lot of stuff.
And then what happens?
They get injured.
So guess what?
They're not getting that moneyanymore.
(39:59):
Have they planned for that?
Probably not.
So, yes, absolutely so, andI've been asked to write a book
for boys too, so that'll come.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's much needed to write a book for boys too.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So that'll come.
That's much needed.
Yeah, it is much needed.
And and so it's so funnybecause I was just at a seminar
called brain camp.
A dear friend of mine has afive-year-old who is more like a
20 year old, and I gave Ialways travel with a book
because I always end up givingit to somebody and I gave it to
that little girl named harmonyand he's going to sit.
And I said have that littlegirl named Harmony, and he's
going to sit.
And I said have a tea partywith your daughter and read a
(40:36):
chapter.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
That's beautiful.
But my although my parents weremiddle class I think we lived
in a middle class neighborhoodbut kind of had upper middle
income money to a lot of fanshere, fans and places and at
five years old, my parentsexpected me to go to a
restaurant with a white linentablecloth and a maitre d' and
(40:59):
be able to order for myself andsit like a lady and bring my
fork up to my mouth.
And that was even beforebecoming a debutante.
It was just expected, and so Ireally love the idea of passing
this on to the youngergeneration and I'm going to do a
special social media post juston this one topic and I can't
wait.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I can't wait to read it.
It I'm so happy you broughtthat up because it's something
that I have to marinate onsomething for a long time before
I sit down and write it.
And that's why it took me 10years to write this first one,
because and I felt the worldwasn't ready for it yet.
So three years ago it came out,and because I thought the world
(41:40):
was ready for it and most of mypeople have been adults that
read it.
It's so funny and book clubsare reading it and I'm like, oh
my gosh, that is just.
It's just a great honor that Ican pass down my mom's legacy.
What she taught me We've beenin the theater.
I'm fourth generation and so Igrew up, grew up in a theater
(42:02):
home and she had a theaterschool.
So on Saturday mornings we wentto etiquette with my mom's best
friend, auntie Jean, and thenwhen we graduated, we went to a
restaurant that had the whitetablecloth and we all got
dressed up and we had gloves on.
I mean it was the 70s, 60s, soyou know, we had the gloves and
(42:22):
the patent leather shoes and wesat like little ladies.
And what I see now at diningroom tables I see the whole
family doing this.
Yes, I mean, I was atDisneyland a couple years ago
and there was a family of four.
They weren't sitting talkingabout their great day at
Disneyland, they were all doingthis and I'm like what is
happening?
This is crazy.
(42:42):
That's why kids can'tcommunicate, because they're
just in their phone or theiriPads.
I see babies sticking withiPads.
I'm like what is happening?
Man, this is just somethingthat's their wedding.
And then they call me foretiquette tips.
So I tell you, the big risingthing right now is people in the
(43:24):
workplace going to etiquetteclasses adults going to
etiquette classes because theydon't know how to sit at a table
and have a conversation and use.
They don't know how to eatproperly right it's a big it's a
big thing.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Well, it's been such a pleasure talking with you,
danielle.
Thank you all of your links inthe show description.
Thank you until next time,friends, I'm antonette lee, your
wellness warrior here at thenew normal big life podcast.
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The fact is, the modern worldruns on a just-in-time supply
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